a talk with cody ko and kelsey kreppel [video]

Emma Chamberlain
This is a very full circle moment, because the first podcast I ever went on was Cody Ko's podcast, Insanely Chill. This was in probably 2017, and I was a really big fan of Kody. Let's just say I was an absolute menace on that podcast. I was so fucking annoying, I can't even watch it back now. But it's very full circle, because today I'm bringing on the two people that I spoke to when I did my very first podcast, which was insanely chill.

Cody Ko and Kelsey Kreppel. They are a beautiful married couple with a newborn. They're also sort of my parents as well, and I can explain. I met them when I was, like, 17, and when I moved to LA, they immediately became my parents in a way, because, you know, my mom didn't live in LA. My dad didn't live in LA.

I was this young girl on my own, and there's certain things that you can't do when you're not 18 yet. For example, go to certain doctor's appointments. I had this doctor's appointment because I had a UTI. I didn't know I had to pee after sex. And you learn that the hard way, don't you?

Kelsey took me to the doctor and got me the fucking meds I needed for. This was the worst Uti. I don't think you understand about this. UtI was like, I was peeing blood. Like, it was.

It was so bad. So Cody and Kelsey and I go way back, and they've sort of been like, my la parents, and I don't know. It's cool too, because we all are in the same sort of space. Cody and Kelsey are youtubers. I'm a youtuber.

Cody and Kelsey are podcasters. I'm a podcaster. They are truly some of my closest friends, and so I'm so excited to bring them onto the show. They're two very special people, and I haven't really gotten to speak to them since they've had their baby. So I'm very excited to pick their brains about that, because I think about what it's going to be like to have a child all of the time, because every day is one day closer to me becoming pregnant.

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Now, there's something about parents where it's like, that's like an elevated. Like, this person has done something that is how masterful and human is it to have a child and to be raising the child and have it be alive? I feel like when I think about me having a kid right now, I think of it, me holding it wrong and hurting its neck or something. I feel like I'd fuck it up. We felt like that too, in the beginning.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. Everyone felt like that, actually. Still. Yeah, I was gonna ask that. Did you feel like, oh, we're not ready for this a little bit?

Cody Ko
No, we felt. We definitely felt ready. Yeah. Not that we weren't ready, but that it was, like, really terrifying? Well, you have so much experience with babies.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. Because you. You know, you. Yeah, but those are like two year olds, like newborns. I was always kind of like, it's.

Emma Chamberlain
Also one thing when it's like you're, you know, working with kids that are not yours. Right. And it's like they're being sent to you at a point when you. You still have to baby them, but not as much. It's not like a newborn baby.

Kelsey Kreppel
You're just not as emotionally attached to them. I'm realizing. Well, now. Cause I'm like, there are just certain things where if a parent came in and said it to me when I was a teacher, I would have been like, that's not a big deal. But now, being a mom, I'm like, oh, my God, I would be freaking out if this was my kid.

Emma Chamberlain
Are you anxious parents? I feel like I'm gonna be an anxious parent. That's why I'm asking. I feel like sometimes we're a little anxious with chili, so I feel like maybe we'll end up being a little bit more on that. Wait, what do you mean we're anxious with chili?

Cody Ko
Like, I think we're, like, a little bit overly cautious with him in terms. Of, like, well, he's like a precious baby. For context, you guys, he's a dog, in case you don't know. That's our chili's the dog. Four and a half year old dog.

Human child named Chili. Oh, my God. When I was driving here, I actually freaked out. Cause I get so spiritual about things. Car drives by Otis.

Kelsey Kreppel
Really? Really. Wait, it said Otis on the car. Was it from the elevator company? Oh, probably the same logo.

It just says Otis. I don't remember, but it just said Otis. Really big, I think. Okay. To me, I think it was a sign.

Cody Ko
It was a woman in the elevator on the parking garage right here. It said Otis. Every fucking elevator. Every elevator says that. But when we did see that for the first time, when we noticed it for the first time, we've never noticed that.

Every, by the way, also has Otis in it. Oh, another sign. Okay. Holy shit. But we never noticed that before that every single Otis or every single elevator is made by the company Otis.

And then we were like, we should name our son Otis. And then I got an elevator one time, and I said. I was like, holy shit. What? Not because of that.

Emma Chamberlain
Because you guys have beautiful. You know when you, like, spend in elevators. Yes. After the elevator we conceived. We had a beautiful, passionate elevator ride on.

Kelsey Kreppel
We just hit, like, the emergency stop button and we made a baby. It was a quickie, you know, from floor three to three to lobby. Super efficient.

Emma Chamberlain
Oh, Cody, that's really fast. You need to work on that. I don't know why he's bragging about that. I gave him the benefit of the Jones that we had to stop it, but he's. Okay.

So what were you expecting? It was gonna be like to be a new parent. And then what happened? So far.

Cody Ko
I don't know. I don't really know what I was expecting when it came to actually having him at home with us. Mm hmm. But also, actually, I think that's by design. You never really know what to expect.

Cause I feel like every baby is different. Yeah. But also, that's the point of being a new parent, is that you're just flying by the seat of your pants and learning. You never know what to expect. You don't have.

And nobody has experience with a newborn except for brand new parents. You know? That's true. And also, every single baby is different. You can, like, read as much as you want or, like, take advice from people and whatnot, but, like, there are just things that, like, he's gonna do that are not the same as every single other baby.

Kelsey Kreppel
So it's, like, kind of tricky. But I feel like he is a really good sleeper, so we lucked out with that. Yeah. Yeah. He's a beast.

Um. He's a savage. He's an obvious. He's such a savage. That was actually our second name choice.

Cody Ko
Second on the list was Savage. Otis Savage. Yeah, we made it his middle name, actually. We wanted to go classy, so we made it his middle name. Yeah.

Otis savage. Savage. That sounds like a fragrance. That's a great fragrance. Otis savage.

Otis sauvage. That's gorgeous. Oh, God. So what has been, like, um. I don't know, like, a notable, like, what's been, like, a rough moment, like, pain.

Emma Chamberlain
A rough moment for me. I just think that, like, there are just times when you're like, okay, you're fed, you're changed, you've napped, you should be so happy. And you're, like, screaming, and I don't know what to do to make you stop, but, like, I also think it's something with, like, hormones, but, like, when the baby's screaming and crying, it, like, makes me, like, freak out. Of course, yes. I get, like, really, like, I don't know.

I don't know what to do. And I've gotten, like, a little bit better. But, like, it, like, sends me spiral. But there's like a. There's, like, a certain tolerance.

Cody Ko
It's like 30 seconds or something. Yeah. That I feel like our brains have that you can deal with it, and then after that, it's like, oh, my God, I can't handle this anymore. Yeah, and then, like, you don't have. Yeah, exactly.

It's weird how that works. I've seen that, too, on, like, tick tock or something like that. It's like, that's why I feel like having two people is so, like, important, because the one person, like, they're going insane. The other person's like, oh, I can handle it for 30 seconds. Totally.

Kelsey Kreppel
Right, right. It's so helpful. Yeah. Yeah. Are you good at changing a diaper?

Cody is really good at changing diapers. I will say for the Otis's, like, first maybe week of life, I didn't change a single diaper. That's amazing. I like, after labor and everything, I was kind of out for the count a little bit, and so Cody really stepped up with anything that he could possibly help with, because I was, like, breastfeeding and stuff. Yeah.

And he was. He became the master diaper changer. Master diaper. Well, for someone who's never once. Okay.

But for somebody who's never changed a diaper. Yeah. I did it for the first time in the hospital. The nurse had to, like, show me how to do it. Well, like, there's actually, like, a proper hygiene, you know, like, regimen that must happen so that they don't get, like, a rash.

Emma Chamberlain
They don't have, like, I actually wouldn't know what to do. In fact, I've held probably five babies in my whole life. That's a lot. Really? Yeah.

Cody Ko
Okay. Here's one interesting thing about that is that same. I had only ever held, like, one or two, I think, in my life, and I was always, like, very scared to do that. And I was like, I wonder when we have our own, if that'll, like, go away and I won't be scared. And it was like, intuition.

Like, I've always been like, I don't know how to handle the head and the neck. I'm so scared about, like, what are the rules about, like, dropping, you know? And then once we had our own baby, it was like, the first day, I just knew how to do it. It was weird. That's so crazy.

Emma Chamberlain
But I've heard that. I have heard that little chatters of that, like, little murmurs of that, little whispers, you guys. And it just kind of does come naturally. Yeah. Which is comforting for me because I am pregnant.

Kelsey Kreppel
Oh, my God. No. I would be so scared. We would talk about that. Imagine if that was the announcement.

Cody Ko
Mid, like 20 minutes or 15 minutes or whatever. So I'd be, by the way, I'm pregnant. That's why I have so many questions about this, by the way. I am so curious, though, because I don't know, even though I have a long time. Yeah.

Emma Chamberlain
I don't know any new parents either. Like, this is really the first, like, where it's, like, in real time, I can. I can witness and watch. Yeah. Did you listen to any online advice?

I feel like the parenting community online is fucking horrible. It's just wild. Like, it's like, you know, it's crazy. There's a. I don't know, there's just so many, like, different.

Kelsey Kreppel
There's too many opinions, I think, and. Strong opinions, for sure. People are critical. Like, if you're not doing something that someone else is doing and they think it's the right thing, they'll let you know. Which I always have thought was so interesting because I'm like, once you're pregnant and you have a baby, you realize how different everyone's experiences and how emotional you are and all of those things.

And I feel like everybody would be more sensitive to that, but it turns people into police. Yeah, it's kind of insane. But I haven't, I would say, like, little tips of, like, put this thing like this when you want them to, like a toy. Oh, true. Like, stuff like that is helpful, but, like, there's also stuff where it's like, oh, your baby straightened his legs.

Like, he. Something's wrong. Like, there's, like, so many things where I'm like, oh, my God. There was one night when he was, like, maybe, like, two weeks old, and, like, I just got on, like, the wrong side of TikTok and was just, like, diagnosing him with, like, 6 million things. And I was like.

Cody Ko
This disease, it's like, it was chronic condition. Like, so intense. Like, Webmd anxiety times 5000. Right? Well, yeah.

Emma Chamberlain
Cause they also can't. Obviously, they can't talk to you. So you feel like, oh, it's your responsibility. It is everything. It is.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. You feel like it's your responsibility, which it isn't. Like, he, like, literally didn't even tell me that. Like, that was, like, hurting him. And it's like, that's on him.

Yeah. Fuck you, stupid. So you're really stupid. Also, the online parenting community is very performative, more so than, I would say, than, like, vlogging or, like, the typical vlogger stuff. Everyone, like, wants to make it seem like their life is perfect, but the parenting shit is like, it's on steroids.

Cody Ko
Yeah, everyone's like, because it's like, parenting is so hard that they want to make it seem like it's so easy for them. It's like an extra level of, like, I'm fantastic because I'm doing this thing that's so hard, so effortlessly. That's so fucking annoying. Like, I was. I got, like, tied up in that shit.

Not, like, doing it, but I'm saying, like, on TikTok, I would find myself getting fucking depressed. Cause I'm like, how is this person's baby not crying in the morning? I don't understand. What are they doing that I'm not doing? And I was like, I just think that they're not showing it.

Emma Chamberlain
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What do you. What's your like boundaries with. With baby and Internet. What do you. Have you kind of decided that we're.

Cody Ko
Gonna wait for sure? Like, with us posting him or. Yeah, exactly. Oh, my God. At 21, he can go on Joe Rogan.

Yeah, maybe. We'll see. I think we're, like. We're pretty, like, no screen for as long as we can possibly do it. But I feel like now we've started this little thing where when we're burping him because he fucking hates being burped.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. Talk, scrolling. The tv's playing. We'll just so happen to, like, spin him around a little bit. He gets a little cocomelon, a little summer house.

I've been watching Summer house, and he's into it a little bit too into it, honestly. He'll, like, arches back and he'll freak out. He doesn't like to be burped, so he gets, like, super stiff, which makes it impossible for the burp to come out. Yeah, he only burps when he, like, relaxes. But if also, by the way, he doesn't burp, he'll, like, projectile vomit everywhere.

So, like, he needs to let some air out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's sort of, like, just accidentally kind of turn him around towards. Then he's looking at the tv, and. He'Ll, like, lock onto it.

Cody Ko
He'll kind of, like, relax, and then he'll burp, and then it's. Okay. Sorry. That's it for screen time. There you go.

Okay. That's great. Yeah, I think we'll use it strategically. Yeah, but not, like, hey, shut up for a little bit. Right when we go out for dinner where he's not gonna have an iPad.

Emma Chamberlain
You know, I was about to ask about iPad baby at dinner. What were. I feel like, okay, this is the only thing. Is that, like, you really never know, like, what it's gonna be like until you're actually in it. Like, who knows what kind of an absolute wild child.

Cody Ko
That's a good point. Need to put that iPad. And, like, if I'm. If we're, like, with someone and they give their kid an iPad, I would never be like, wow, Lola. Yeah.

Kelsey Kreppel
Good parents. Like, I don't care if you. If your kid needs an iPad so you can sit through dinner, like, give him one. That's a great point. I would like to try to not give him an iPad at dinner.

I would like for him to learn how to sit at the table and, like, distract himself with, like, other toys or a book or something, because I. Think people resort to it too quickly. I agree. I don't want to resort to it. I would like to not give him an iPad when we're sitting at the table eating a meal, if we're on, like, a long flight or something, maybe.

Cody Ko
Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Strategically, when we absolutely, like, yeah, but. Like, sitting at the dinner table. And, like I said, this could change, but the plan is, like, sitting at the dinner table, like, he would do, like, with his family.

Kelsey Kreppel
I would like for him to sit and enjoy it. Color. Yeah. Learn how to, like, have a conversation. Yeah.

Emma Chamberlain
Can he talk yet? Yeah. He's already like, no, I'm just kidding. No. When do babies start talking?

Kelsey Kreppel
I think around, like, like, ten to twelve months. Oh, that's when they start, like. Like, he can say, like, mama or Dada or something. So does he have a personality right now, or is it kind of like, who is this guy? I think he does okay.

Emma Chamberlain
See, do you have any predictions about what his vibe's gonna be? You know what I mean? He's got really good vibes as it is right now. He's a happy fucking guy. You know what's so interesting is that this is how I feel.

Kelsey Kreppel
Like I've been putting his hair in, like, a little mohawk after the baths. And, like, nothing suits him better than a mohawk. Like, every time his hair is, like, flat, I'm like, something's going on. It's gonna be like machine gun Kelly. Maybe.

Oh, shit. Okay, so he's gonna be like. I think he's just gonna be, like, fun and cool and, like, spunky. Totally. Like, do you feel like he's gonna.

Emma Chamberlain
Be, like, like, real estate guy, or is he gonna be, like, a rock star? Or is he gonna be. I think he's gonna do something musical. I'm thinking sensitive artist, but with a mohawk. Looks kind of, like, literally machine gun Kelly.

Kelsey Kreppel
Wait, maybe. No, no. Come on, MGK. MGK. Come on.

Cody Ko
Machine gun Otis. That's so cute. Otis is such a surfer name too. I feel like Otis is an artist name. Artist.

Kelsey Kreppel
I don't want to give. I don't want to, like, he can do whatever he wants and be happy, but. Yeah, but I can see him being a little, like, outdoorsy. He sings. He's definitely gonna surf with me.

Cody Ko
Of course, if he doesn't like it, then he doesn't have to do it, but I'm gonna take him surfing. Right. Hopefully, he'll like it. I hope. Cause I'd like to surf with him.

Emma Chamberlain
I think a lot of times, if you. I feel like no kid will hate surfing. Do you know what I mean? Did you go surfing with your dad? I didn't start surfing because.

Until now. And I still can't do it because my dad didn't start surfing until, like, now. He started so late. Most people are starting when they're teenagers. He started when he was 50.

Kelsey Kreppel
That's awesome. Yeah, that's fucking awesome. And he's so good. He shreds. I want to see you guys surf together.

Emma Chamberlain
Oh, my God. My dad surfs Malibu all the time. Tell him to text me. Yeah, y'all can hit that. Yeah.

Cody Ko
Cause I need people to surf with. Oh, he loves that. Yeah. Like, he, like, makes friends in this way. Yeah.

Emma Chamberlain
And he's good and fun. He's the best. And we can. We can sit on the side, of course. Like, a little, like, I don't know, little chips and, like, crackers and stuff.

Kelsey Kreppel
Like wine. Yeah, wine. This is beautiful. Okay. Can't wait.

Yeah. Okay, that's gonna be. No, it's gonna be so good. He's with us. Or he could be surfing with us.

Emma Chamberlain
Oh, this is baby surfing. Otis is sitting with his mom and his aunt. Yeah, obviously. Sis is big sis. Big sis, obviously.

Obviously. Yeah. Wait, what is happening? Don't age me. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

Kelsey Kreppel
His big sister. So let's do a parenting exercise. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Emma Chamberlain
I'm gonna give you scenarios, and you have to tell me what you would do. What would you do if at five years old, baby. Well, not a baby anymore. Young man takes mommy's phone and makes a TikTok account. Okay, starts making tiktoks.

Could be anything. Like a little cooking video. Like make my. Make my school lunch with me for kindergarten, something like that. Just starts making little videos.

You're unaware of this completely. Young man goes completely viral. Okay? 3 million followers in a month. Okay, okay.

He sweet. And we still have no clue. You have no clue. You find out because it's on your for you page. One day he's somehow smart enough to, like, be sweet.

Okay, what do you do? Do you take the account away? Or do you say, all right, you know what? Like, you might have a career in this fucking. This is your calling.

This is your calling. Let's put our foot on the gas here. Like, what? Do you take the social media away? Or do you say, you know what?

I'm just going to try to facilitate this in the best, healthiest way possible. What would you do? Okay, well, first of all, I would have to, like, really take a second and, like, consider how in the world I have let my son take my phone, post a TikTok, go viral, and I had simply no clue, like, what kind of mom I was being. Check yourself. First, he was being sneaky, and he, like, knew how to, like, switch the account back so you wouldn't find out.

Kelsey Kreppel
And then I'd be impressed because he's, like, really smart. I don't even know how to do that. How did you do this? But I feel maybe I would be like, let's. Clearly you like making these videos, and you like cooking or whatever it is that you're doing.

Like, let's. We can still make these videos, but let's, like, do it in a different way and not do it online. Oh, okay. Interesting. So you'd be like, let's make these videos for family.

Yeah. And we can send them to, like, your grandma and grandpa. And we can, like, send them. You can choose whatever aunts and uncles you want to send them to, whichever of your friends you want to send them to, we can send them there, but, like, let's not post online. That's a really great answer.

Thank you. I was gonna say, like, we could make them with our supervision. Like, you're not gonna be on TikTok by yourself. Well, he was gonna say, but then. Again, it's like, why would we even.

Emma Chamberlain
You're gonna say, turn on adsense, and then just sort of like.

Cody Ko
Yeah, we gotta get you in the creator program. Why the fuck are you doing this without making money? You're just doing this shit for free, son. Wake up. The only issue here is that you haven't gotten a degree in a program.

Emma Chamberlain
You're a fucking idiot, son. Okay, so you would do it under supervision? Yeah, and, like, start making merch. No, I just. I just.

Cody Ko
No, I mean, like, if you like making these videos, like, just do it. But, yeah, there's no reason tick tock has to be involved. We can just, like, make the videos. We can make the videos. And if he wants people to see them, we can just send them to people we know.

Yep, that's true. But then you're not getting, like, the. The proof that they're, like, good. You know, that the social. I don't.

Kelsey Kreppel
But I don't have, like, a five year old. Like, he's blowing up that kind of validation from, like, millions of people on the Internet. I totally agree with you. I'm not saying, like, he should be, like, feeding into the likes and comments. I'm saying, like, what if this was, like, a legitimate talent of his?

Cody Ko
And it's like, well, he could, like, this. He could be a performer. Yeah. Like, everyone makes videos, but, like, put. Him in, like, a dance class and, like, let him be a star.

Kelsey Kreppel
And, well, we'll just, like, let him, like, do something creative, but, like, doesn't need to be on the Internet. Yeah. Okay. I love that. Okay, you passed the first test.

Thank God. Next. Sweating. Okay. He's a little older now.

Okay. Do you like my clipboard? I love it. Super professional. It's cool.

Emma Chamberlain
Okay, so he's older. He's 16 now. Oh, shit. And he's doing really well in school, which is great. Yeah.

Congratulations, you guys. Thank you. But he decides school is not really for me. He's kind of like his older sister. Yeah.

I mean, he. It's junior year and he's ready to go, but he decides, you know what? I want to move to Bali. Okay. Because I think that the vibe is better.

Kelsey Kreppel
Okay. So he comes to you, he sits you both down, and he says. And he's doing well in school. So it's like, you know, and maybe he has some ideas. Like, well, I could do homeschooling in Bali.

Emma Chamberlain
Do you have to pay for him to move to Bali? Yes, but he says that the vibe is better and he thinks that he would have more fun in a better quality of life. No, it's his dream and he really wants to do it. He wants to surf there. There's hot babes.

Kelsey Kreppel
Relax. Hold on. He's hot babes. No, but you have to figure out how to pay for it. I would say.

Emma Chamberlain
Okay, so you're not paying for it. No, I would say if you don't want to, like, keep going to your school every day, something about that is making you not happy. We can finish school at home. Once you finish, you get your degree, however that is. Then we can discuss how you'll pay to go to Bali.

Kelsey Kreppel
Maybe once you're 18. I love that. So it's more about. Or, like, we're creating a two year. Plan closer to 18.

He just needs to finish school. And, like, if he has a plan of, like, how he's gonna make money when he's there, how he's gonna be able to support himself and, like, that, he actually has. And, like, a big idea of what he's gonna do in Bali. Not just going to, like, hot babes. I'd say look into crypto.

Cody Ko
All right. Start trading some shit coins. See if you can rack up some dough. Do a bit of pump and dump. Pump and dump.

Do a couple pump and dumps. Yep, yep, yep. And then get out there. Fucking little trap, brother. I hate that.

No, but if he's. If he's 16, he's, like, showing a ton of promise and something else, like. Like, you were YouTube. Then we'd be like, yeah, okay, let's talk about it. Yeah, I.

Kelsey Kreppel
That's what I'm saying. But if he's, like, trying to make y'all pay for it. Yeah. He's like, I want to drop out and move to Bali. Big no.

Yeah, well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think we agree. Yeah, we are. We do agree. Okay.

Emma Chamberlain
What if he starts coming into a long way? Sorry, not in sync. Yeah, that was embarrassing. Weird is happening. But imagine this.

Kelsey Kreppel
Okay. Okay. Slightly different scenario. He comes to both of you and he somehow shows you his bank account. It's his high school checking, okay?

Emma Chamberlain
And he shows you he has $2 million. Okay? And you're like, what the fuck? You turned on adsense, didn't you? Like I told you.

And he's been banking the money since he was five. No, he has made $2 million from selling, from doing pump and dump schemes online. He's been doing crypto pump and dumps, and he's been scamming Americans everywhere. Actually, let's broaden it a little bit. He's been scamming internationally online.

Kelsey Kreppel
Oh, my God. But he's made $2 million on poop coin, and he's fucking loaded. But he. It's kind of iffy. Like, whether or not he's safe in America.

Emma Chamberlain
He wants to go to Bali. He's 16. What do you do? First of all, I would be absolutely horrified. I don't know what I would make.

Kelsey Kreppel
No, I'd make him donate all of the money. Oh, that's great. Planned parenthood. I love that. That's beautiful.

Cody Ko
Okay, there you go. Starts dating someone. Okay. Who has a sus vibe. This person just overall, you can tell, is bad news.

Emma Chamberlain
Bad news. Okay. Yeah. Probably a cheater, too. Yeah.

Probably gonna break his heart. What do you do? Tell him. Remember that TikTok you saw of that dude? That's like what you tell your friends when you hate the guy she's dating or whatever, and it's like, I think you should just, like, play the field.

Cody Ko
He's cool, but I think he's just like, play the field. It's summer, you know, that's what we say. You know? Listen, she's dope, but, like, Otis, you're a handsome guy. You're young.

Play the field a little bit. Get on the apps. Get on the apps. Get on the apps. Yeah, we're gonna tell him to get on the apps.

Probably. Get on the apps. No, I feel like. I feel like every parent has to deal with that at one point, like, seeing their parents. I think my parents have.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah, mine have. You guys are my parents. Have you? We have.

Emma Chamberlain
You've known everyone I know in there when I've, like, gone through a breakup and come over and laid on your couch. Weirdly, that one time, do you remember, like, long time ago? Oh, yeah. In east wind. Yeah.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah, I do remember that. It was, like, not directly. No, I was totally, totally true, and I was unhinged. Yeah. But you know what?

We got through it. We got fucking through it. And I. But I really think that's, like. That's like, a rite of passage as a parent.

It is so, like, I would be like, ugh, he found that one. I don't ever find out till after, like, my parent. My other parents obviously have, like, you know, two. Two parents. Right.

Emma Chamberlain
They don't tell me. They've never told me. And part of me feels betrayed if they, like, have opinions of, like, this is a huge red flag. They won't tell me till later. It's like you have to figure it out yourself.

Kelsey Kreppel
Exactly. Because you don't. Ultimately, better. You don't want to resent them for not being supportive. It's kind of like if your friend is dating someone that you don't love, you don't want to be too harsh about the person, because then they won't feel comfortable bringing him around or telling you about their relationship or coming to you if something goes wrong.

So you have to be supportive. But you can be a little bit honest, but you have to be supportive. Unless it's really fucked up, you kind of just have to stay out of it, I guess, right? I almost didn't go to college after I had gotten into Duke. I almost didn't go because my high school girlfriend didn't want me to go.

Cody Ko
And my parents had to sit there and be like. Like, they knew that was the wrong decision, but they had to be like, okay, well, let's just, like, think it through. And I look back and just like, that must have been the hardest thing for them to see. Yeah. Is me almost make, like, the worst mistake of my life.

Kelsey Kreppel
That's crazy. I know. Insane. I was so close, and then I was like, no, this is ridiculous. And I think they, like, had faith that I would make the right decision, but I know that had to have been so hard for them.

Yeah. I know that's gotta be crazy. Yeah, you just have to be, like, just keep thinking about it. But you can't say. Cause, like, I cried to my mom.

Cody Ko
I remember that. It's, like, one of the only times I've, like, actually broken down in tears and cried to her about, like, how hard of a decision it was. And I know she was just like, it's a fucking easy decision, but she had to be like, I know. I'm sorry. We all go through this and blah, blah, blah.

That's so sweet. So sweet. Are you crying? I might. Have you been emotional recently?

Kelsey Kreppel
It really comes and goes in waves. I was thinking about this today, but. Cause, like, I've been pretty okay. I mean, like, definitely more emotional, but, like, just, like, sometimes I just wake up and I'm, like, definitely feeling more than usual emo. Yeah.

Emma Chamberlain
Yeah. Cause, like, I feel like even when. I don't know, like, the hormonal situation is. I can't even imagine, because already my, like, just a period. I'm, like, crazy.

Kelsey Kreppel
No, I also think I started my period today. Oh. I'm a woman. Is it so weird to have a period again? Um, no, it's just, like, back to the grind, you know?

Emma Chamberlain
Back to the grind. You're just like, damn. Do you want to get pregnant again? Like, are you excited about getting pregnant again, or are you, like. No.

Kelsey Kreppel
Um. I would say, like, I will want. I know I'll want to. Not yet, but, like, I will. I will.

But, like, there was a, like, when I was, like, giving birth, I looked at Cody, and I was like, this is the only time I'm ever doing this. She's like, we're only having one kid. I was like, oh, that's fine. Whatever. Okay.

Cody Ko
Yeah, yeah. But now I'm like, I could do that again. I feel like it's usually easier the second time. I would really? That's what everyone says, right?

Emma Chamberlain
Cause now you know. Yeah. It's almost like when you drive somewhere for the first time and you've never been there, and it feels like you're driving for 6 hours because you don't know where you're going, and then after that, it's, like, fast. Yeah. And you get it.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. Hopefully. Hopefully that is the case. Because it wasn't, like. It wasn't, like, super pleasant.

Emma Chamberlain
No. Also, you. To give up a lot. Yeah. No, like, you couldn't drink alcohol.

I know you could. You have caffeine. I could have, like, one. Like, one little coffee. One little coffee.

Oh, that's actually better than I thought. Yeah, you can have to poop. Sure. Yeah, yeah. But, like, enough to get the system going.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Except, like, pooping when you're pregnant is, like, really, really not easy. Oh, my God. I can't imagine. It's like you really.

You're, like, constipated. You're like. I can just imagine. You're sitting in the belly's, like, on the front of the. I just think about this.

I never really thought too much about it. I'm just thinking about. I'm genuinely curious about how that works. Yeah, no chance you're seeing what's going on. Oh, my God.

Cody Ko
You're just kind of feeling. No. Bowl check available. Oh, my God. Bummer.

Emma Chamberlain
That's the best part, you know? That's the best part.

Cody Ko
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Did you have any? I didn't really have. Was that kind of a myth? One time I was like, I really want cheetos, and then I want to get soft served vanilla ice cream, and I want to take the cheetos and dip it into the soft serve ice cream. Yum.

Kelsey Kreppel
And I was just explaining that to Cody, but it never happened. But also, that's, like, not like. That sounds good. It sounds still. It still sounds good to me.

Emma Chamberlain
I think that sounds good. That does sound good to me right now. Yeah. So how are you, like, keeping up with your own, you know, hobbies and interests with baby? Is it just kind of, like, no way.

Kelsey Kreppel
Right now, I feel like. Like, cody's back working and everything, like, normal. So, yeah, I'm kind of, like, I didn't really want to get back into it just yet, so I feel like I've just, like, recently started dabbling in things again. I don't know, but it's hard to, like, figure out. It's just hard because, like, you can have a general idea of what every day is going to look like, but then, like, in the moment, like, you could be like, okay, tomorrow we're gonna go here.

But then, like, 6 million things change. Like, yesterday, I was gonna, like, I had a whole plan for the day, but then, like, I had to give him a bath at, like, 11:00 a.m. which I wasn't planning on doing. And, like, there was just, like. And it just.

Everything kind of changed, so I feel like it's, like, hard to plan to do things sometimes, unless, like, I know Cody's gonna, like, watch him. Then I can go, like, tomorrow I'm going to get my hair cut. Ooh, big stuff. That's so exciting. It's because I have a huge knot.

Emma Chamberlain
You should do a Karen. A haircut. Can you imagine.

Cody Ko
Blonde hair with the curls? No, it's perfectly straight. How did you even do that? Okay. Please do that.

Kelsey Kreppel
Okay. Do you think you're gonna start, like, being, like, at a restaurant? Like, you guys are gonna start being, like, send it back. It's cold and, like, shit like that. Like, just start being, like, a parent like that?

I don't think so? Like, I feel like it's a mindset. Like, you choose how you. Yeah, but some things are unavoidable. Like, explain.

Cody Ko
Okay. So, like, before we were parents, right. You know, it's just like, you always see the new parents, especially the dads, like, on planes or in the airport, they're always stressed. They're always folding shit up, taking shit out, carrying 9000 bags. That shit is unavoidable.

You just become that. And I've since become that. Where it's like, folding up strollers. Yeah. And worrying about, like, the transport of the child.

You know, that's just, like, the dad's job. Yep. So I am that in, like, in public now. It's like, that's me. I'm like, I love that.

I'll get the thing and you get. You know, you're grunting in public. Yeah, exactly. And, like, I'm bending over, my ass is hanging out, puke all over my shirt all the time. I feel like we're always kind of, like, a little bit of mess.

Yeah. We're disheveled. That's how it has to be. Right? That's.

Kelsey Kreppel
I feel like we're doing something right. Yes. That's, like, the perfect aesthetic. I love that. Stinky, stinky.

Spit up. Stinky Palin. Stinky mommy and daddy. Yes. I can't wait until he's, like, three.

Yeah. I'm excited for when he's, like a little toddler. Yeah, because it must be weird when it's full baby time, because you're really dealing with a lump and a half. Yeah. I mean, he's gotten, like, a little bit more interactive and stuff now, so, like, it's fun, but I'm excited for him to just, like, be a little less fragile.

Emma Chamberlain
Yeah. I mean, imagine. Isn't it weird to think about when he's 20? So weird. Super weird.

Cody Ko
I don't want to think about that. It, like, really freaks me out. Yeah. Like, it freaks me out to think. About, like, I'm going on a weekend trip or like, what?

Kelsey Kreppel
No, you're not. You're hanging out with us. I'm going to Joshua Tree with my boys. I did that. I know.

Cody Ko
You know? Yeah. All right. No shrooms, son. Well, I need to meet him.

Emma Chamberlain
It's, like, hard for me to speak to him. You have meeting him. I need to. It's weird that I haven't. I know, but you just live in another country ultimately.

Cody Ko
Yeah. That's actually a good point. That is a good point. But it's. I mean.

Emma Chamberlain
No, but it's not that far, but. Like, you travel a lot. Like, you need to come. I know. We do bring.

Cody Ko
So that's one of the things I was gonna say when you said, like, how do you. Like, how do you stick to your hobbies and stuff? Like, we liked to go out to eat a lot. We go out and do stuff a lot. So, like, right from the get go, we were, like, bringing him to shit.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. So we do. We still do a lot of shit. We just bring him. Right.

Cody Ko
Which is awesome. Yeah. Like, he's been to all of our favorite restaurants. Like, we. We hang out with friends.

We have, like, good friends in our neighborhood now so that they have a child, too. So we hang out with them a lot. Like, yeah, we just go and do shit, which is cool. Yeah, that's what we wanted. I feel like.

Kelsey Kreppel
For sure. Yeah. I don't know. And my parents are close, too, so, like, they, like, come and hang out with him if we, like, want to go out or something. Oh, that's great.

Cody Ko
We went on a date on Friday to our friend's restaurant. Cute. It was fun. It was really good, actually. Where should come in?

Kelsey Kreppel
Santa Monica. Yeah. Monet, it's called. And it's so good. And you actually.

Yeah, it was so good. That's okay. So I feel like. Do the things that you enjoy feel the same as pre child? Yeah, I think so.

Emma Chamberlain
Like, you have the same. Like, it's almost like. Cause I feel like a lot of people talk about the sacrifice of, like, well, we don't get to do the stuff that we like to do. We don't get to do the stuff that we used to enjoy. Like, we can't go to Las Vegas now.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. And we can't go to tenants of the trees in Silver Lake. And we can't. You know, like, it's. Yeah, that is a love of ours, that bar.

Cody Ko
Yeah. Yeah. We've only been once. Oh, my God. I kind of love it.

Kelsey Kreppel
Wait, we should go back. Can. We should go. I'm down. See, like, we've had, like.

But I think. I don't think that we've felt that way. Well, I feel like that's maybe. Maybe because naturally you were, like, the things that baby couldn't do. I'm not really as into anymore anyway.

Emma Chamberlain
Do you feel like that's kind of what happened? Yeah, we were, like, down to party. Last and shit anyways. Yes. And also, like, we're very lucky that we do have, like, family close that, like, watches him in case, like, there have been a couple times where I'm like, should we just, like, go out with our friends and, like, my parents will come over and, like, we go out.

Yeah. You know, and it's just, like, fun. Or it's also nice because a lot of our friends are also in the same, like, part of life as us now. So, like, totally. We'll go out or, like, we'll just have, like, drinks at home with the friends and our babies and, like, it's like our babies are asleep and we're, like, drinking at home.

Kelsey Kreppel
It's like we. I feel like it has fit into our life pretty seamlessly. Also, I've, like, always liked going to bed at nine. Yeah, now it's like, a requirement. Yes.

Cody Ko
It's, like, the best. That's true. Are you putting Otis on, like, a peanut free vibe? Are you gonna be peanut free parents? Um, no.

Kelsey Kreppel
No, I would. That would be. I would. Scary life to lead. Yeah.

Cody Ko
Also, like, that would suck for us. Yeah, like, we can't, like, have peanuts in the house. Yeah. Like, we're gonna get any rule. Like, a lot of times parents are like, no, my baby's gonna be fully raw.

Emma Chamberlain
Just eat raw fruits and vegetables. Oh, no, my babies, you know, carnivore. Carnivore diet for my baby. I feel like he was just raw. Just beef liver.

Cody Ko
Yeah, that's it for Otis. He loves it. Yeah, he really loves that. No, I can't. I think he's just gonna have, like, regular.

Emma Chamberlain
Regular, regular boy. We try. Yeah, I don't know, we try to eat healthy for the most part. Yeah. So he.

Cody Ko
I'm sure we'll try and. We'll try and make him eat healthy. Yeah. When do you start feeding normal food? Like six months, I think.

Kelsey Kreppel
I think at like, four. You can start with, like, puree. It depends on how they're, like, able to, like, sit and stuff. So, like, you can make sure that they're, like, able to, like, damn, swallow and whatnot. It's like, pretty soon, but, yeah.

Emma Chamberlain
What's gonna be first meal? Chicken and waffles, I think. Yum. Puree blend. Of course.

Cody Ko
He's like, man, real food sucks. What? The chicken puree. His, like, little gums are trying to chew on it.

Maybe like, beets or carrots. Maybe some sort of, like, sweet potato. Sweet potato would be great. Sweet potato would be good. Banana.

Emma Chamberlain
Oh, delicious. Yeah, that would be delicious. Yeah. No, you should eat it with him. So whatever it is, I challenge you to eat it with him.

Kelsey Kreppel
I think you're supposed to, like, you're supposed to, like, show them, like, mmm. Yeah. They know how to eat. But if it's just. If, like, I'm making it.

I'm just making sweet potato puree. Like, it's just sweet potato. Yeah. That's actually yummy. Yeah.

Emma Chamberlain
Thanksgiving, right? It's kind of like, yes. We're only feeding him Thanksgiving foods. That's the diet he's on the Thanksgiving. We're gonna try cranberry sauce now.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah, exactly. Okay. Here's blended stuffing. He's like, what is this? It's, like, the worst, bland, blended ever blended stuffing.

It's not Thanksgiving food is. No, it's the best. You're right. It can be good. It can also be not good.

Cody Ko
Some people think it's bullshit. Like, thanksgiving food, so good. I don't. But it's also, you've never tried my stuff. And a picky eater.

Yeah. So, like, oh, my God, I was. Such a picky eater when you were a kid. If he has my jeans, he's gonna be a picky eater. Uh oh.

Emma Chamberlain
Uh oh. Uh oh. No. I feel like. Have you gotten better?

Uh, yes, yes, yes. But, like, there's still certain things I won't try. Like, I'm not gonna eat escargot. Like, I'm just. Oh, my God.

Kelsey Kreppel
I would never. Exactly. I'm not like, I don't like wilted spinach. Like, I can't do that. Okay.

Emma Chamberlain
I don't like mushrooms. Have you tried them? Yes. And actually, on pizza when they're really caramelized and, like, soft, soft, soft. That's delectable.

Kelsey Kreppel
I actually really like mushrooms, like, a lot. I know. And as a vegetarian, I'm supposed to like them. And they have a great flavor, but they're too bouncy for me in my mouth. Okay.

Emma Chamberlain
The bouncy. Oh, no. See, what I can't do is, like, yogurt. Oh, really? Anything that's, like, too creamy.

Kelsey Kreppel
Like, my yogurt has to have, like. Cottage cheese in a video. I swear to God. I have this vivid memory, and I've thought about it twice a day while we were talking of you eating cottage cheese once. Yeah, I'm actually a cottage cheese girl now, but, like, yeah, you're a cottage cheese.

I've never got a cottage cheese head, for sure, but, like, you can pay me. Cody eats it with a spoon out of the tub. No. Remember the other day? You were like, here just having a bite, and I was like, I'm not taking a bite of that.

Emma Chamberlain
It's like, people who eat avocado like that. I just can't do it like that. I cannot do that. Cream cheese. If my bagel has too much cream.

Cody Ko
Cheese on it, I eat cream cheese right out of the tub. What actually makes me want to throw up. But I would. No, but, like, you'd be great at cheese. My extra cream cheese.

Kelsey Kreppel
And, like. Yeah, you'd be amazing at keto. I really would. But, like, I don't know. Cottage cheese.

I have really been enjoying good culture. Cottage only good culture. Gotta fucking brand is, like, nothing else, really. Tried buying normal cottage cheese because you can only get good culture at, like, whole foods or something. Yeah.

Cody Ko
So other grocery stores don't have it. Yeah. Near us. So I tried. I thought they were, like, all the same.

And we bought, like, normal cottage cheese, like I used to eat as a kid. And it's fucking disgusting. Yeah, good culture is incredible. I'm gonna try it. What does it taste like?

Emma Chamberlain
Can you compare it to kind of just cheese? I really can't compare it to anything. Also, you know what I've been doing? What? Making egg salad.

Okay. Putting it in the egg salad instead of, like, mayo. Oh, so it's like, extra protein. Yes. High protein.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. And it is good. Whoa. Yeah. I do love egg salad.

Emma Chamberlain
That took me a while to love eggs. We should have brought you some eggs. So many eggs in our place. From our chickens. You have chickens?

Cody Ko
Yeah. How's that? Messy or. No, it's fine. They're in their coop.

They're fine? Yeah. Okay. Well, they roam around occasionally, but we, like. So we had chickens, right?

And then I go outside one day with chili to take them for a walk, and I look over the chicken coop, and it's like the doors open and there's feathers everywhere. I'm like, what the fuck? That does not look right. And I walk over and it's just carnage. And a coyote had gotten in?

Kelsey Kreppel
No, but we're not sure, actually. I think it had to do some other ranch hands. And they said that it could have been a snake, it could have been a skunk. It could have been an owl. Did you, like, love these chickens, too?

Cody Ko
No. Yes. First of all, yeah. They were part of our. They lived in our home.

Kelsey Kreppel
On our home. We loved the eggs that they made. I did. I just. I was also extremely pregnant when this happened.

Emma Chamberlain
Oh, no. Probably, like four weeks. And Cody came in so casually one. Morning, like, the chickens are all kind of, like, fucking dead. Like, literally, what?

Cody Ko
No, wait a minute or two. Kind of giggling. And he was like, we eat chickens. He was like, I think coyote got the chickens I was gonna be like, wait, what? Like, he thought I was gonna, like, laugh.

Kelsey Kreppel
I don't even know. He goes, I think it coyote got. A blood bath out there. And I was like, what do you mean? Like, literally started crying.

Cried about it all day. Every time I tried to bring it up, I would cry. I feel terrible. They thought they were safe, and they weren't, and it just breaks my heart. It's nature.

Emma Chamberlain
Yeah, it's nature. You know what I mean? But it's sad. So, wait, so we got new chickens? Oh, yes.

Okay. Yes. We're like, we got new chickens? Because I wanted eggs again. Yeah.

Cody Ko
And we got. You can't just, like, buy chickens that are already laying eggs. You got my chickens. And there's like, okay, by spring, they'll start laying eggs. Yep.

And then our neighbor was like, I'm moving. We have chickens. Do you want the chickens? We were like, okay. They're already laying eggs.

So we're like, okay. So we put more chickens in the thing. So now we're getting eggs, and now it's springtime. The other chickens have started laying eggs. We get about, like, 20 a day or something.

So many fucking eggs. Wait, when I come, I'm gonna take eggs, please. Well, gave you. We'll just give cartons away to people. That's amazing.

Kelsey Kreppel
It's really nice, but it's kind of stressful. No, it is a lot of eggs producing a lot. Like, we're legit, like, factory. Yeah. This is a small business.

Selling it. Yeah, we should. You guys are really, like, really doing farm life. We're just like, farmers, kind of. You need to start milling your own flour and stuff, right?

Emma Chamberlain
Yeah, yeah. Maybe we should start making things from school. Exactly. It is kind of a trend to, like, be cool. That's what it's called.

Cottage core is so trendy. We're like, big time cottage cowboy, though. Cowboy core is really, like, you know. Like, you go to Silver Lake and everyone's wearing fucking cowboy boots. Like, a cowboy hat.

Like, and wearing old jeans. Right. I bought cowboy boots when I was 16 to impress this guy that, like, listened to cow. Like, cowboy music. Country music.

Kelsey Kreppel
That has a word. And I feel like I was way ahead of the trend. Got rid of it. We were. Why did you do that?

And you know what? That was one of those things where my parents were probably like, you're so stupid. Like, I. They, like, wanted to get me an Easter present, and they were like, we'll take you shopping. Like, that could be your Easter present.

We'll get you a few things. And I was like, I don't want, like, three shirts. I just want one pair of cowboy boots. And my mom was like, are you ever gonna wear these? And I was like, yes.

And she was like, is this just to impress that guy? Yeah. And I was like, no. Oh, my God. I actually wasn't.

I love cowboy boots and cowboy hats. And they were all like, and Kenny Chesney. My parents were probably like, God, she's so lame. Like, just trying to, like, impress this boy who just doesn't care. We've all done.

Emma Chamberlain
I used to wear. I had, like, one pair of Roxy brand, like, little Capris. Yeah. And I had a crush on this, like, surfer boy in, I don't know, second grade. And I used to be like, these are Roxy to him.

And he'd be like, what is that? It's like quicksilver. Like, you're wearing quicksilver. He's like, I don't. What?

We're five years old. What are you talking about? No brands? Yeah. It's like, I just fucking know the swell.

I'm like, what's fucking happening out there? Like, I don't fucking know. What have you done to impress a girl? We exposed her. You almost didn't go to college.

That's actually true. That's the biggest one. That's catastrophic. Yeah. Have you ever done anything little?

Kelsey Kreppel
Like, anything you've worn or cut your hair a certain way, or you heard a girl that you, like, liked something and then you wore it the next day to school? No. You're just yourself and you, like, stayed true to himself. Stayed true to himself, yeah. Just let the ladies flop.

Cody Ko
Exactly. Yeah. This happens pretty naturally. Totally, yeah. Yeah, speak to that.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah, no, I mean, I couldn't agree more. I forgot. Just, like, authentic. I'm just, like, a hundred percent me, you know? Like, girls will do, like, little things like wear cowboy boots or roxy.

And boys decide if they want to go to college or not. One extreme or the other. I actually do have a bad habit, though, where, like, I unfortunately accidentally, like, start, like, catering to the. To the vibe of the boy I'm dating. Okay.

Emma Chamberlain
Like, always, like, on accident. It's not on purpose at all, but. Like, that just happens when you start hanging out with someone, though. It's true. But, like, there was, like, you know, my first boyfriend, like, loved watches, and suddenly I was like, me too.

No, I, like, needed to get a watch. I don't give a fuck. Actually, I do. He did kind of make me appreciate watches, and now I'm like, I kind of get the lore of the watch. Okay.

What did my second boyfriend, he didn't really have that profound of an impact on me. Oh, my God, another one. Like, different clothes. Like, I was like, oh, we're gonna. You know, like, I'm copying, like, the brands that he was wearing.

Kelsey Kreppel
Right, right. And he wanted to kill me. Like, I would, like, buy something that was similar to what he was wearing. And he was like, this is fucking annoying. Wait, really?

It's so fun. I thought it was fun too. I was like, you don't want to match. It's, like, cute. Yeah.

Emma Chamberlain
Wait, I kind of like matching with bae a little. I think you guys are somewhat matching. We are. We are. I think that's cute.

Cody Ko
You know what I mean? Sometimes they're fighting, but. No, but I think it's cute. I think it's cute. Like, I feel like if you were, like, all the time going out and you're both wearing, like, a white top.

Emma Chamberlain
And black jeans, like, that's a little weird. But, like, I think if, like, you both walk out and you're kind of wearing something similar, like, it's, like, kind of fun. We should, as a family match. I think when you have kids, crazy cody. Then it becomes weird.

Cody Ko
Cool. I think to all wear the same shit. Like, cute. If it's like he was also wearing a separate color of these shoes, it can be. Yeah, I see what you're saying.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. Like, if we're all wearing, like, green shoes, everyone would be like, what are they doing? Yeah, yeah, the greenies are here. Yeah. Like, are they doing a photo shoot later?

It looks, like a little bit, like a big photos, but, like, if we're both kind of just all in the same vibe, then I think it's like, yeah, yeah. Like a happy accident. Even though it's, like, has. I feel like it all being in the same, like, color scheme. Like, in the same palette.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it should. It's like, the pieces should be all a little different. Right. But it should look kind of somewhat styled. I do that.

I. Well, I think that makes sense. Yeah, I do that with friends too, though. Like, whenever I'm going out in a group, like, I kind of want the vibe to be consistent. Yeah.

Emma Chamberlain
So, like, if everyone's direct speakers, I'm kind of. Yeah, I'm creative directing the fashion of the group. Yeah. What happens if someone pulls up to the pregame with, like, the worst fit? Oh, it's happened.

Cody Ko
And so what do you do? And my lips are fucking sealed. Right? Yeah. You're not gonna change that.

Emma Chamberlain
Perfect. Yeah. What are we gonna do, right? Are you gonna, like, hang out with them? I mean, for fuck's sake, they're far away from home.

But I mean, you know, depending on who's walking in to the. To the club. Yeah. I don't even go to the club. Like, we should go to a club.

Cody Ko
You mean tennis of the trees? Yeah. Is there a tree? What? There is a tree.

Kelsey Kreppel
Okay. Yeah, we have been there and it's big. Yes. No, I know. Apparently we ran into each other there.

Emma Chamberlain
Yeah. Oh, my God. That was a long time ago. Yeah. Wait, is that the word?

Cody Ko
You smoked a cigarette to impress? Probably. You did that to try and impress me, right? No. So you smoked a cigarette to impress him?

Kelsey Kreppel
I didn't. I don't even know that it was to, like, necessarily impress him. I will say, like in this, when I drink, I like to smoke. I get it. And so I think it's funny.

Cody Ko
Used to. I think it's funny. Yeah. Well, I haven't even offered a cigarette in. You would smoke one right now.

Kelsey Kreppel
I think if I was drunk and someone offered me a cigarette, I'd probably smoke it. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Oh, wow.

Emma Chamberlain
Oh, wow. Okay. We just talked about this on your podcast. I don't know, but we were not boyfriend and girlfriend yet. And he was like, you were kind of trying to impress me, so.

Cody Ko
Yeah, yeah. Cuz I'm like, I don't know how she feels about it. I was a lot of that time.

Kelsey Kreppel
Like, let's go get cigarettes. And Cody was like, no, it was. No, that shit's lame. Cigarettes. And so.

Cody Ko
I don't smoke those, dude. And then, so Sam. But then I, like, either overheard them or like, Sam asked me. I can see Sam being like, oh, you don't want to smoke because she. I'm just gonna ask her if she smokes.

Right, right. Like, I can see him, like, doing something like that. So he was like, do you wanna go get cigarettes? And I was like, yes, let's do it. Okay, fuck it.

Emma Chamberlain
Yeah. Coolest girl of all time. Okay, wait, she's chill. Went outside and we smoked like a pack of cigarettes. That's honestly fine.

Cody Ko
Both of us were trying to impress each other with how many we could smoke. And I also is probably taking like one puff and then putting it out, like, I don't know what I'm doing. Sure, yeah, I want another one. I don't know how to smoke a cigarette. Which is like, great.

Emma Chamberlain
Yeah, it's better. But like, when somebody, like, I have smoked a cigarette to impress like, I've dated guys who, like, smoke a lot of cigarettes. Yeah. Cody's the first guy I've ever dated that doesn't smoke, like. Oh, like, consistently.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. Yeah. I've only had one, but I was really, like, I'm gonna smoke cigarettes to impress him, right. Or try and I, like, would be holding it, like, fucking pinching it. Like, I'm pinching.

Emma Chamberlain
Like, I don't even know, like, a knob to, like, turns on. Like, I'm like, you know, like a joint. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, okay. Like, joint.

I also don't know how to, like, smoke a joint. Like, I just can't. This is not my world. Right? I don't know.

I'm in the age of technology. I. I'm in the age of the vape. Yeah. Right?

I, like, I cannot look cool with a cigarette at all. And I also don't like a cigarette. Like, it's gross. It is just so everyone's clear. Like, cigarettes are gross.

No, you guys shouldn't smoke a cigarette. However, I did smoke a cigarette probably two days ago. I was out. I was at dinner with somebody, and we smelled a cigarette. We were both like, we must have this.

This kind of smells good. Yeah. And then we were like, what is happening? Like, why does it smell so good? And then we went to go buy menthol cigarettes.

Okay, don't exit. They don't sell them in California. Apparently, they're, like, really bad. That's why, like, they're way more unhealthy. Anyway, two puffs off the cigarette, and I was like, I'm good for the next two years.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. You know, it is kind of the worst. Like, you wake up the next day and, like, your hands smell. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Cody Ko
Like, the aftermath. I like. I like smoking one. It is fun. Yeah.

Emma Chamberlain
Yep. And it feels good, and I think it tastes good when you're doing it. You were ripping cigs. I was pregnant for a friend's wedding, and Cody was smoking cigarettes. Yeah.

Kelsey Kreppel
The little thin ones in Europe where. You just want to smoke a cigarette. I have a picture of him, like, djing at our friend's wedding, and there's, like, a cigarette hanging out of his mouth, and he's, like, sweating, and he's just, like, djing. And I was like, that is. It's perfect.

It's maybe one of my favorite pictures of. You have to dj Otis's birthday every year. Oh, my God. He will. He's gonna make it about him.

Emma Chamberlain
It's good. I won't. You will probably end up Djing. No, like, for fun, though. Like, not, like, you're not gonna be like, guys, I'm djing that, like, you'll be like.

You'll be chill in the corner vibes. Not unless, like, if. Okay, if we have, like, a kid's birthday party during the day. Yeah, it'll be like that, right? Then the kids go to bed.

Kelsey Kreppel
Cody, I was having. And it becomes the adult. I was literally having the exact same thought, like, two days ago. Then maybe I'll get. I was like, I want to throw a huge party for Otis birthday for him.

And then when he goes to sleep and all of his friends go to sleep, we stay up with our friends and, like, really party. You'll be invited. We set up, like, a crib room, and it's like, all cribs in the room. Yeah. And then we just, like, are all.

Setting each other off every time one of them wakes up. Exactly. We have all the nanets all pointing. Oh, yeah. Getting notifications.

Cody Ko
Yeah. Yeah. Wait, I love that you'll be invited. That's why I need to get pregnant now. No, I'll have a baby by then.

Emma Chamberlain
No, I don't think I can put my baby. First birthday. It'll be really cool. If I could also put my. We need.

Kelsey Kreppel
You need to be like, bring the youth. Yeah, okay, I'll bring the youth. Yeah, bring the. You. Okay.

Emma Chamberlain
I can do that. Okay. We need someone to it, like, encourage us to stay up. Yeah. Because otherwise, like, I'll go to bed when out of sickness goes to bed.

Yeah, yeah, I can do that. And then the turntables will go unspun. Right. Which would be. God forbid.

Cody Ko
We had a really funny moment. I said this on my podcast already, but whatever. I think it's a funny story. It was, like, one of the first times that we went out, the two of us, because I got invited to. Something, and after having the baby.

After having the baby, he was, like, two months old or something. Yeah, yeah. And I get invited to this, like, event. I thought it was like a dinner. Yeah.

Kelsey Kreppel
Like a networking, kind of like a cool meet people. Like, meet people business thing. Yeah, I wore blaze. Yeah. It was like.

It was, like, supposedly, like, you know, it was business. Okay.

Cody Ko
So we get there, we thought it was gonna be this, like, quaint, like, intimate event, and we were, like, in the elevator, like, kind of nervous, like, buzzing, because, like, we're being social for the first time. First time. And, like, the elevator doors open, it just becomes, like. It goes from, you know, quiet elevator silence to, like, just, like, complete crowd noise. And we're like, holy fuck.

There's, like, hundreds of people. Like, we couldn't even, like, get off the elevator. Like, there were so many people. And Cody and I, like, grabbed onto each other, and I was like, I don't think I can do this. And he was like, I definitely can't do this.

Kelsey Kreppel
And he's like, let's just try to walk around once. And, like, if it, like, if we maybe see someone, talk to someone, like, yeah, so we walk around. We, like, both order, like, diet Cokes at the bar because we're, like, so freaked out. And, like, we're, like, both just, like, looking around. And then I was like, I don't want to do this.

And he was like, I don't want to do this either. And, like, we maybe lasted seven minutes in the room. We went. We didn't talk to a single person. We went down to the valet so many times.

Cody Ko
The valet was, like, already, like, yep. Yeah. He basically parked the car, walked around, went back and got the car. He did a loop. Yeah, he just had a little, like, took it for a spin.

Emma Chamberlain
Yeah, he just took it for a spin. So then we're like, okay, let's go to. It was so funny. We were like, all right, so sunset Tower is right down the way. Let's just go there.

Cody Ko
Yeah. Get a nice dinner, actually. Yeah. And we're like, we'll make a night out of it. We got a sitter, you know.

Emma Chamberlain
Yeah. Yeah, we got a sitter. We got to take.

Cody Ko
That's the most parent phrase of all time. Yeah, we got a sitter. It's also my parents. Yeah, yeah, my parents came over. Yeah.

And so we go to Sunset tower. We walk in. We're like, hey, can we get a table? You know it's Tuesday night. Oh, it's Tuesday night.

Like, listen, we got a sitter. We got a table. Cause we got a sitter, and we want some nice dinner. She's like, it's like the bar. It's like, you can try the bar, but it's two hour wait for a table.

We're like, what? So we go back out to the valet? Valet's, like, already? Yep. Get the car from the valet.

We're like, okay, where can we go? Like, let's try and salvage this night. Dobriks across the street. That's what we should have done. Two hour line there, too.

Emma Chamberlain
Saddle ranch across the street. No, we went to Craig's. Oh, Craig's. Craig's is good. Tuesday night, maybe not busy.

Cody Ko
Valet the car. Get out? No, no. We actually told the valet. We were like, just stay right here.

Stay right here. I'm gonna go check and see if we could get a table. Yeah. Bad luck night. We opened the door and it's like, not even.

We did. I opened the door and closed it. I was like, there's no fucking way. No way. Filled to the brim.

To the gills. This is why in LA, you do have to have a plan. It's just really weird. Like, it's like, what is everyone doing on a Tuesday night? Oh, it never ends.

Emma Chamberlain
Like, it's crazy. It's Monday through Sunday, baby. I guess I didn't realize. It just really is. It just felt like we were getting shit on.

Kelsey Kreppel
We were so lame. Like, we. Like, we were, like, feeling like our. First night out, and we're just getting. Shit, and then everyone's like, no, sorry.

We're all packed. Sorry. Yeah. If only. What was that fucking place called?

Emma Chamberlain
One oak. If only one oak. Didn't close the club. You know what? I never got to go to that club before it closed.

Kelsey Kreppel
Is one oak the one Hollywood? It's the one. West Hollywood. West Hollywood. I went there with Jermaine Dupree.

What? Yeah. When was that? This was back in, like, 2013. No, like 2014 or something like that.

Emma Chamberlain
Oh. Like, before I even lived in LA, I came here to interview for a job. This, like, young guy with, like, his parents money or something like that. Started some stupid, like, app and hit me up on LinkedIn. And I, like, flew here and I went to his.

Cody Ko
And I went straight from LAX to this kid's house in Bel Air. It was massive house, okay. You know, it was, like, straight from a movie. Okay. And he was, like, interviewing me for this job at the same time.

It's a party at this Bel air place. Like, he's, like, shirtless, drinking. So I just, like, start partying with them. Cause I'm, like, the same age. And he's like, yo, Jermaine Dupree is coming over.

I was like, what? Really? The rapper? He's like, yeah, all these kids are, like, 20. Jermaine Dupree's, like, 45 or something at this time.

I'm like, there's no way this. That Jermaine Dupree is gonna walk in the front door. Sure enough, Jermaine Dupree walks in the front door by himself. Or maybe he had a couple guys with him. I'm not sure.

Kelsey Kreppel
Right? He's so sad. Had headphones in. He, like, puts, like, a birthday gift on the table. He's like, is this a birthday party?

Emma Chamberlain
I don't know. He came. He played beer pong with us. Flip cup. He had headphones in the whole time.

Kelsey Kreppel
What? On the phone the whole time? I have no idea with who that is. On the phone the whole time. And then he's like, we're going to one oak, and we're all like, okay, cool.

Cody Ko
And we went in the back of one oak with Jermaine Dupree, and he had headphones in the entire night. Was it fun? Yeah, it was fucking sick. For, like, a 23 year old. I was like, this is, like entourage.

I feel like I'm on entourage. Like, I'm, like, going to this exclusive club with a rapper. We went in the back, like, the bouncer, like, dapped us all up and let us in the back. There's, like, basketball players there. It was fucking crazy.

We were at his table all night. Wow, that's sick. And I left. Being like, la is the place for me.

Emma Chamberlain
I never got to go to oneok there. It was, like, this weird thing happened where it was, like, I was too young. Yeah. And so I, like, didn't really go. Like, I maybe went a few times to the club, and then.

Yeah, like, to the club, like, with, you know, like, whatever. And got snuck in, you know? Yeah. And then it, like, I just. And then it was Covid.

And then I came out of COVID and all of my friends have grown out of it. Right. They don't want to do it anymore because all my friends are, like, five years plus older than me. Right. So then I never got to do it.

I don't really think I want to do it. This is the thing. But it's fascinating that I should come. When he's djing at the club in Vegas. That's great.

Kelsey Kreppel
That would be, I think, a good way to do the club. Coachella. I was gonna ask how weekend two was. Did you? Oh, my God.

Emma Chamberlain
I literally. Well, I wasn't gonna go at all. But then what happened was, it was Thursday. Yeah. The day before weekend two started.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. And Jared calls me about something else, and I was like, what's up? He's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to Coachella last minute. Like, I have to style a client. She's performing on Friday.

Emma Chamberlain
Like, it's super last minute. And then he was like, do you want to come? And I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? It's Thursday at 02:30 p.m. yeah.

Like, what are you talking about? And I was like, yeah, I actually will. So then I picked up Owen, his boyfriend, for context. And we just went to coachella on just Friday, and it was so random. And then drove back.

We drove back Friday night. So we got there Thursday night. Okay. Went to dinner at a steakhouse that had a very strict dress code, and we were wearing pajamas. Okay.

And we felt very bad about it, but they let us in. That's nice. Ultimately, the food was really, actually bad, so I kind of felt less bad when I was eating it. Yeah. I was like, I've had better food at quite literally, like, I don't know, McDonald's, so, like, it's all good.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. And that's ultimately $4. Right. For a whole meal. So anyway, then I felt as bad then.

Emma Chamberlain
Yeah. It was, like. It was so weird to not go, though. And I actually did have fomo a little. Really?

Yeah. That happens. Like, did too. Like, there were a couple moments where I was like, we have to go. Yeah.

Kelsey Kreppel
I also thought Taylor Swift was gonna show up, and therefore, like, I had to. Are you swifty? You're a swifty. Yes. I know.

It's, like, not something we connect on. Well, listen, I. It's not. But I also know that Owen likes Taylor Swift. Yes.

Emma Chamberlain
Oh, it. See, I'm just, like. I. Owen made me listen to. No, Owen encouraged you.

Encouraged me. Owen gracefully had me listen to tortured poets department with him. Okay. We were analyzing the lyrics together. It's not that I'm not there.

Kelsey Kreppel
Did you like it? Yeah. I'm not gonna listen to it in my free time. Okay. Okay.

Yeah, you're. And you know what? Like, I. Cause I. You have taste.

Not. Sorry. I have taste as well. And I think towards your post department is wonderful. I have a very specific taste.

You have a very specific taste. That is really. You have really good taste in music. Thank you. So I.

Emma Chamberlain
You trust me? I do. And, like, I understand your taste just differs a little bit, then maybe what's on that album. I'm also. I don't think there's one right.

Kelsey Kreppel
And I don't think there's one wrong. No, it is so, like, the album, it was a controversial album. People have been really people. Some people, yeah. What did you think of it?

Cody Ko
I like it, actually. And that's also what I would say I've done to impress a girl. Like, music for her. Yeah. Like.

Emma Chamberlain
Yeah. And I'm not saying I listen to Taylor Swift just to impress Kelsey. Cause I end up enjoying it. Yeah. But, like, that's something that I've done.

Oh, my God. For sure. I would never listen to Taylor Swift if I wasn't dating you. I have, like, I'm kind of a butterfly really dating you, by the way. I just said married to you.

Sorry. No, but, like, it's kind of sweet. Yeah, no, I would never. But now I get it. I understand.

Cody Ko
And also. Okay, can I. I've been thinking about this for a second. I want to just let it out. I want to just drop, like, a crazy ass take.

I think Taylor Swift is, like, the perfect example of compounding interest in human form in the sense where I remember in college, there was a girl on my team, on my diving team that was obsessed with Taylor Swift and was a massive swifty. Same thing. Would analyze all the lyrics and would wait the day before an album came out. That would be her day. She's obsessed.

Taylor has been doing that for so long, and she just keeps leaning. She's changed her music style, but she just keeps leaning into what's worse. Mm hmm. She's built an insane. Yeah.

Like, that's what happens when you just actually just, like, trust the process. Yeah. And, like, compounding interest is, like, one of the. It's, like the 8th wonder of the world. It really is.

I mean, yeah, there's a crazy ass take for you. There's a lesson there. You know? You are like, she's too famous, but it's like she's just been. She's been doing this for fucking ever.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. Yeah. She's good at it. She's good at it, and she knows what she's good at, so she just keeps doing it. And that's what happens when you just don't give up and keep doing things.

Emma Chamberlain
That you're good at. Have a lot of empathy for Taylor Swift. I, like, think she has a challenging life, which is also a hot take. She does not get to experience so many small joys. Like, for example, tenants of the trees.

Like, for example, tenants of the tree. No, exactly. She would have gotten a table at Sunset Tower. That's true. Or, like, meeting a guy.

Like, I was thinking about, like, her dating. Dating can't be funny. Like, if she wants to. I don't know. Like, she meets a random guy at a bar.

Kelsey Kreppel
Right. Like, it's not a random girl at the bar for him. Right. Like, she. I think.

But I feel like she's, like, talked. Like, she, like, has lyrics that, like, talk about that. Yeah. And we'll say, like, I know it, like, kind of sucks dating me. Like, why would anyone want to date me when this is my life and like, it just sucks because you're, like, in the spotlight and some, like, a lot of people don't want to be.

Yeah, but I want to have, like, love. Yeah. And it's like, you deserve it. But I think she's found someone who. Like, who's also in the spotlight, so.

And also was like, that's who you are, and that's fine, but we can go do fun things, and we can be in the spotlight together, and I'll be there with you. I was thinking about this the other day. Like, will I ever have a public relationship again? Actually, maybe I would. Maybe I would.

Yeah. But I don't know. Like, it's a tough thing. Yeah, a little bit. It's a little weird.

Emma Chamberlain
I think you have to be. It has to be kind of, like, the one vibes. That's kind of what I was just thinking. It's hard when you don't know if it's gonna last. Last.

Totally. I feel like it worked for us because we were both pretty certain that it was gonna last, and so it just became just showing our life, in a sense. But we also. We're very much in agreeance on what we're gonna show and what we're not gonna show. And, like, that if it all went away tomorrow, it really doesn't matter.

Kelsey Kreppel
Cause we actually are in love, and you're a lot each other. Yeah. So our relationship doesn't depend on the public, whereas I feel like a lot of public relationships do. Whereas for us, it's more just sharing parts of our life that we think are nice. I think it's also just real, I guess.

Emma Chamberlain
I mean, the lore of the breakup people love, which I think is why, if you're like, okay, we're probably gonna get married. Like, this is serious and we live together and we're like, you know what I mean? Like, then it's less turbulent, right. And it's less. People, like, speculating on what's going on.

Kelsey Kreppel
Like, if I'm not in one of. Like, if I'm not in a video of Cody's for a while or something, people aren't like, did they break up? Is everything? Like, people are just, like, they're just married. Like, you know what I mean?

Emma Chamberlain
Yep. Whereas, like, when you're in a public relationship and it's not forever, people are constantly wondering what's going on and, like, needing more and wanting to make sure that you're still with that person. I get so I, like, am obsessed with celebrity couples. Like, in a weird way. Not in a weird way.

But like, I also am, like, curious. Like, when I see on my explore page something about any celebrity couple. Yeah, I'm locked in. It's interesting. Like, romantic relationships are so interesting, but everybody is interested in them.

I'm saving hard launch for marriage now. Really? Yeah. That's pretty cool. Just the wedding day.

Yeah, I like, I'm like, Loki got married. Everyone's like, who the fuck is that? We've never seen that guy in our life. No. Well, I think maybe not for marriage, but maybe for like, I think once maybe I would be engaged to somebody, then I would show them.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah, that makes sense. I don't know. Maybe not. Depends. It's also hard because, like, your job is like, kind of sharing your life.

Emma Chamberlain
So fucking dumb. And so it's like you want to protect the things that are important, but like, you also want to share things. But also I want Bae to be silly in the vlog. You want Bae to be silly in. The vlog for come be silly on the podcast.

Like, that's fun. It's fun. Yeah, that's how we started. Totally. We podcasted our, like, one of our first dates, right?

Cody Ko
No, not dates, but like, one of the first times you came over and. Yeah, that's true. And I was talking about how I wanted to be on the radio, and I was like, here. And he was like, just try. Try and talk.

And we, like, talk to each other on mics. Did you post it? No. No. Oh, we just off the grid potted.

Kelsey Kreppel
We off the grid potted. Which is so insane. But it's also really sweet because I was like, I would love to, like, go be on the radio or like, do something like that. Like, that would be so cool. But like, I don't know.

And he was like, just try it. And now you have a podcast. I know. Do we? What's your relationship to podcast is my final question.

Emma Chamberlain
And then I'll let you guys go. I don't know, wipe your baby's butt or whatever. That has to be done. Hopefully that's. He's in the car.

Cody Ko
We gotta get that. Oh, my God. That's. Windows are rolled up. There's no food or water.

Kelsey Kreppel
It's on dawn mode. The car. You tesla dog moded him. I had someone recommend me. Like, I brought chili to a restaurant once, and she was like, you cannot have that dog here.

And I was like, okay, what am I supposed to do with him? And she was like, I don't know. Go put him in your car if you have dog mode. And I was like, no, one has dog mode. I don't just have dog mode on my car.

Emma Chamberlain
That's so niche and weird. I was like, why? Don't assume that I have dog mode. No. To assume that you have dog mode is rude.

It's actually rude. Like, saying it was, oh, my God, you're expecting. It's like, no, I'm not. Why would you say they. Same vibe.

Kelsey Kreppel
It was. I was. It's rude. It was rude. Anyway.

Emma Chamberlain
Yeah. Do you like. What's your relationship to podcasting? Do you love it? Do you hate it?

I love talking about podcasting with other podcasters is why I asked. That's a really tough question for me at the moment, I feel. Yeah, it's a challenging me too face. Yeah. In some ways.

Cody Ko
I've been doing it for a long ass time now. Like, I do have fun. Like, when we plan great, like, cold opens for our show and stuff, I have a lot of fun doing those and stuff. But, like, I just feel like sharing my opinions on stuff is just getting a little bit, like, I would rather not do that anymore. I know you're not gonna see my opinions, or.

It's just like, I just. I don't, like, know anything else that people don't. You know, I don't have any, like, real hot takes or anything like that. Yeah. And I also just feel like I'm not as eloquent as I once may have been, and I don't know, I think.

Kelsey Kreppel
But also, like, you could. But, like, you. People like to just hear people, like, shoot the shit. Yeah. Chat and, like, just talk about experiences and stuff, because, like, it's.

People like to see that they're not alone in their experiences, and I feel like it's fun to do that. Yeah. But I agree. I totally agree. But I just.

Cody Ko
For me, it's like, if I'm. I just want to do something that's different or something like that. I don't know. Yeah. So I tried.

Like, it's exhausting for me. I think. I think that's what it is. Like, I'm more of an introvert than I really ever thought I was. The older I get, the more introverted I become.

And so sitting down for, like, an hour or two and, like, talking, it's. I'm, like, physically fucking exhausted afterwards. Oh, even a YouTube video, I'm exhausted afterwards. Yeah. Yeah.

So I'm starting to be like, maybe I should shoot. I shoot every single day now. Yeah. I'm like, maybe I should shoot less. You should.

It's sucking the energy out of my head. I think you like. Yeah. You shoot a video every day or podcast. You're shooting something every day, five days a week or seven days a week.

Five to six. Yeah. Yeah. No, I couldn't do it, I think. But I think, like, recognizing that and now, like, seeing that, it's exhausting to do that.

Kelsey Kreppel
Like, you can change your schedule to make it so that you have. You should give yourself time off. I know, but I will eventually. Now is not the time, but I will eventually. I actually really enjoy podcasting.

Like, I'm gonna leave here and be like, that was so much fun. I. Cuz I just love talking. Yeah. By the way, I've had a fucking blast today.

Oh, yeah, today's a hang. But in general. In general, yeah. But like, when I. I think when I do my podcast by myself.

Emma Chamberlain
Yeah. I leave feeling, like, really doubtful that I did a good job. I understand that. But when I do it with someone else, I'm like, I'm good at this. Yeah, I like this.

Yeah. But it's hard. And I also. I recorded episodes until May. In November, I recorded enough episodes to have until May so that I could go on maternity leave.

Kelsey Kreppel
How I could. So I could give myself maternity leave. That's amazing. And that's, like, ending. Yeah.

And I'm, like, freaking out. Oh, totally. Like, I'm not. I don't know what to do. Who even am I?

I don't want to do this. Like, now you're a mommy caster. A mommy pommelaster. I'm a mop mop caster. Mom Caster.

Yeah. I mean, you. There's a lot to discuss there, but it is. When you've been doing it for a long time, you start to get to a point where you're like, what the fuck else do I have to say? Like, I've already told that story.

Or, like, what happened this week? I literally sat at home. Like, if I'm trying to think of, like, to, like, recap my week, I'm like, didn't do anything. Like, I did a bowl check and there was corn. Like, that's it.

Emma Chamberlain
That's the only thing I have. You loved that. You brought it back. No, I did. That was full circle.

Cody Ko
A bowl. A bowl check. I, for some reason was like, you have a popcorn bowl. No, it was. And there's popcorn.

Kelsey Kreppel
That was really good. You, like.

Cody Ko
You look at me like, you should find this hilarious. I did. I was like, why aren't you? It's a popcorn. I don't get it.

Kelsey Kreppel
No, that was. Fuck. Yeah. God, maybe I'm in the wrong industry. Well, yeah.

Emma Chamberlain
Did you ever do stand up? I did it with Noelle, like, we did. It was more like a show that wasn't, like, stand up y as much in the sense that it was, like. Yeah, yeah. Like, really awkward.

Cody Ko
I did. The most I ever did was, like, open mics, like, before, like, when I moved here with Noel, actually, we would just go to open mics together and do them. That was, like, the most. And then I did, like, a show. Like, one or two shows where, like, someone was hosting a show, and they're like, you want to do five minutes?

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. But I always just was horrible at it. I can't imagine. I would. I could never.

Emma Chamberlain
No. Yeah, it sucks. So that's a no. Like, for me, personally, I'm just like. I just suck at it.

Kelsey Kreppel
Yeah. Some people are really good at it. Oh, yeah. Not me. Not me.

Emma Chamberlain
It just doesn't seem fun. It stresses me out. It's really, like, it when it's going well. It's really fun. Yeah.

Yeah. I could see that. If you're in the flow state. Yeah, yeah. If you're in a flow state.

Fun in the fucking flow state. God damn it. My God. That's a lesson from this. Yeah.

Cody Ko
Podcast, that is. Take anything away from this. Everything's fun. Getting that flow state and watch what fucking happens, babe. It's gonna be magic.

Kelsey Kreppel
It is. So, we really got in the flow state today, you guys. I felt that I could have sat here for hours. I know. But we actually have to talk real shit that off the record now, so let's do that.

Cody Ko
Some real shit. Some real shit. Thanks for coming on. We're done. Thanks for having us.

Kelsey Kreppel
Thanks for having us. That was great. If you loved this episode and you love Cody and Kelsey, well, I mean, I don't know why you wouldn't. They're perfect. Go check out their podcasts.

Emma Chamberlain
Kelsey's podcast is called Circle Time, and Cody is a podcast monster with two podcasts, insanely chill, his personal show, and tiny meat gang with his friend Noel all. I was also recently on insanely chill, so you can go listen to that if you want. It's a great, fun episode. We just can't stop collabing with each other. We're just a collab machine together.

It's crazy. Anyway. Okay, that's all. Talk to you later. Bye.

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