E511 $uicideboy$

Theo Von
I have some tour dates to tell you about. I will be in Idaho Falls, Idaho on June 27. That's an added show. Salt Lake City on June 30. Las Vegas, Nevada, July 5 and 6th.

Wallingford, Connecticut on August 7. And Bangor, Maine on August 9. Those are all new dates. Get all your tickets@theovon.com. tour.

And thank you so much for your support. Today's guests are probably the most requested guests that we've ever had. And that's the truth. They're out of New Orleans, Louisiana, baby. You know that.

And that's where we came to spend time with them. Down here on Carondelet street at the Maison de la Louze hotel. They have a new album called New World Depression. Nobody's done it like they have. Nobody's fan base is like theirs.

Is grateful today to spend time with the suicide boys. Shine that light on me.

I'll sit and tell you my story.

Scrim
Shine on me and I will find a song I've been singing.

I've been waiting to bust these out. You picked a good day to do it. Yeah. I might retire them after today too. No, man.

Theo Von
You gotta do that. For you, brother. Yes, for you. Yes. For Christmas or something.

You gotta bring them bitches back. Christmas or where you spend Christmas. Normally you come back to Louisiana. Yeah. Family stuff.

Yeah, every time. My family still lives over in Mandeville. No, do they? Big man. The voice.

Scrim
So was it Covington or Mandeville? I grew up in Covington and I moved over to Mandeville. I got you. Where should we save this. This stuff?

Theo Von
We want to save this part of the chat. We are. We are rolling up, baby. Yeah. Yeah.

I grew up in Covington, down by Lee Road or whatever, but it was down Lee roll, boys. Oh, bro. A lot of people, dude. A lot of homemade tattoos. Bodywork.

Scrim
Yeah. Where they handle business and they'll bury you. You know what I'm saying? Oh, dude, they got kind of byo chiropractor shit going on. Like that kind of shit.

Theo Von
You know what I'm saying? Shit they'll like. They'll hook like a winch to your leg and try to, like a truck, you know. My dad was in pulling you out the mud. They'll try to fix your hip like that.

Scrim
My dad was in jail with a lero boy and it was his roommate and that's. I got it. He took care of him, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, he knew the ropes.

He took care of him. But it's Blair. You remember Blair? Did you ever meet Blair. Oh, yeah.

I did flooring with him and shit when we first started laying tile down. Yeah. Take Xanax. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Theo Von
Oh, Florin is a gateway drug. I feel like, huh? Bro, I went to that job sober in Louisiana. Fucking is. I went to that job sober for one day just because I didn't have shit, bro.

Scrim
And I was asked out. So I went there sober for one day, and by. By lunchtime, I was willing to suck some dick for something. Some female dick.

Ruby Da Cherry
My friend had a joke of, like, how people in Louisiana, like blue collar guys, workers, they'll, like, verbally express their resume to you to hire them, but their resume is like, oh, I don't do pills no more. I do good work. Like, whatever. That's how they get the job I'd rather hire. If you do do pills, they do better work.

Theo Von
90 degree angles only, bro. One dude told me once, yeah, that's what we expect. When I was off that shit, bro, I was on it, bro. Really? Employee of the month?

Nuh uh. Depends on which specific one it was. Oh, yeah. When I was managing a restaurant, Xanax was not my friend. I let them do whatever they wanted.

Scrim
I think that's where me and. Me and you differ. They were. They were all my friend. Really?

Ruby Da Cherry
Yeah. Some are better friends than others you want to get. I mean, who was a better. I don't know if there's a term for better drug user. I wasn't good at it.

Theo Von
I was too. I think I got. I was too sensitive with drugs. Scott and I were both way too good at it. He started young.

Scrim
He started young. He started young. I started young. And then basically by 16. By 16, I had my first pain pill.

I was drinking before that, and every time I drank, I blacked out, like, you know what I'm talking about? I couldn't help it. So you would do it every time? Oh, yeah. Every time.

It wasn't like Scott was balls to. The walls, balls to the wall every time. Yeah, that was it. I had no control whatsoever. But I took my first pain pill at 16, and then from then, I was like, fuck, I want to feel like this every day.

Like, I get it now. Cause I grew up the way I grew up. I hated all that shit from just growing up how I did. And I was like, I'm never gonna touch any of that shit. And I didn't for a long time until I did.

And then once I did, you know. It'S like, I get it. I get it now. I get why. So from 16 on till 2019.

Every day. Yeah, it was everyday. Balls to the wall. It started with pain pills, went to stronger pain pills, went to heroin. Then the worst it got was toward the end where I was just speedballing all day.

Like, 20 Adderall a day and 20 Xanax a day to calm me down from that. The Louisiana speedball. Yeah. And then, you know, whatever opiates we can get, fentanyl patches. Whatever, dude.

Theo Von
Oh, yeah, people will do pickleback heroin.

What are you doing? Shit. That drugs always been super, like, prevalent down here, especially in New Orleans, you know? Yeah. What about your, like, your first.

Do you remember taking your first pain pill ever or. No, I do. I do. Wow. I had surgery when I was 13.

Ruby Da Cherry
I had two ankles, two screws put in my ankles for a skateboarding injury that I got into when I was 13. And they did surgery, and then I was prescribed Vicodin, and I would just, like, lay in my bed. The Vicodin pill bottle would be, like, above on my headboard, and, like, every few hours I was supposed to take one, and I got hooked. And after I got recovered and I started, like, being a teenager and being social and all that stuff, that's what I wanted to find was painkillers. Oh, yeah.

Theo Von
I remember once I took a couple somas, Bron, and I didn't. I felt like I didn't have any arms for almost half a day. Well, like, the Trinity is supposed to be Percocet, a soma, and a xanax. You ever seen the pharmacist that, like, documentary on. Yeah.

That's all. Yeah, that was the thing, brothers. Like, 200, 200 lord tabs, 180 Xanax, and 120 some. There was, like, the trinity that they prescribed to everyone. Yeah.

Oh, I remember they busted a mall Santa in Tarrytown with, like, 100 somas on them or something. Shout out. Shout out. Big Tarrytown. Yeah.

Yeah, bro. A town full of so many Terry's, they named it after them. Hey, Terry will get your flooring, bro. Some dudes, they were so fucked up. They put flooring on the ceiling, bro.

You like flooring on everything. They'll floor your yard in Louisiana. They'll floor a baby crib. They'll floor new tile. They'll floor your grandfather, bro.

Ruby Da Cherry
You're leaving around, like, the mausoleum's got new tile? Yeah, fucking right. That's crazy, you guys. That's crazy. You remember your first pain pill?

Oh, yeah. That's crazy. To think of how strong they are and how powerful they are, that. That's like, a core memory, bro. It's like a very euphoric.

Like, it's like, almost like a coming to Jesus moment. Like, it's like this. Mine happened in a different situation. My papa had passed away when I was 16. And me, he was like my dad, you know, me and him were super tall.

Scrim
I loved that man. And when he passed away, you know, I came across a pain pill. Coping with the sadness. Yeah. And at that point, I was just like, this is too painful.

I can't deal with this. Fuck it. And, you know, he had his funeral that day, and our. For me, it had the opposite effect. I didn't get sick.

I didn't get tired. I got. I felt like they get sick. I know. I felt euphoric.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I was running around the funeral home. I gave. I gave a eulogy. Everybody standing.

Ruby Da Cherry
You'll get a goddamn emancipation proclamation. He only. Look, I will say to the date, to this day, I've heard it's the only eulogy with a trap beat behind it. So I am saying that that's a rumor going around. Did you scramble with that eulogy?

Scrim
Yeah. Dang, that's crazy. So do you think you would have been able to get that eulogy if you weren't on the pills? No. Wow.

Theo Von
So that's. I was too hurt. I wonder if that's how, like. I wonder if that was that, like, the first time you ever, like, kind of spoke. Like, it was the first time in.

Scrim
My life that I was comfortable in my skin, that I felt like my whole life. Like there was something off. Like I didn't belong here. You know what I'm saying? Like, I could never be comfortable in my own skin.

That was the first time where that happened to me. I felt good. I didn't have a care in the world. And I was like. I made it a point.

I told myself, I remember, I'm gonna feel like this every day for the rest of my life. And that's what I set out to do from the time I woke up to the time I went to sleep. And that's. So how does music even get started, then, by you guys, if y'all are already. Well, it's hard to get a pill head to finish painting the baseboards.

I'm probably the most productive. If you hold pills above their head, do anything, anything you want, they'll do it. You know? And. I don't know, we.

Our paths started differently. Yeah. And it wasn't like we were so fucked in the beginning. Like, it was very much a fun thing. And we were ignorant thinking like that.

Ruby Da Cherry
That story that you hear about death in jail, it's not gonna happen to us. Cause we're smarter than that. We know how to do this the right way, but, you know, give it ten years and we're at that point. Yeah, yeah. So the music always came first.

It was never drugs first. The music was always first. And then at some point, it kind of got. The lines got blurred a little bit. But, yeah, so then who starts the music first, man?

Theo Von
Because one thing that's crazy about you guys, music. I was listening to so much of it over the past month, trying to, like, cipher. Like, okay, is there certain, like, where did some of the sounds come from? Like, little things. Sometimes I hear a little bit of, like, bone thug, maybe I would hear.

Ruby Da Cherry
Get that so much when we first started, you really. We used to get compared to bone thugs all the time, but then sometimes. I would be watching. I would almost think of that movie gummo or something a little bit. Do you ever see that movie?

Scrim
I've never seen gum. He's seen a lot of movies. Super artistic and, like. Like, bizarre. Very bizarre.

Theo Von
And kind of like, off violent. Kind of like. Yeah, I mean, even just looking at. That picture, it's disturbing. Yes, it's a disturbing movie.

And I was like, this shit. It's like. It feels. It's. It's music, but it feels like a disturbance.

That's what you guys start. Like, some of y'all stuff feels like that to me. Yeah. Like I want to disturb shit. Yeah, we want to disturb shit.

Ruby Da Cherry
We want to make people feel weird. We want to make people feel. I don't know. At first, we were super edgy. Like, just saying crazy shit just to see reactions out of people for the shock facts, shock value, all that thing.

Theo Von
But you must have liked that. Like, there's a thing that you. You know what I'm saying? Like, we. Like.

Ruby Da Cherry
I just, like pressing buttons. Yeah. For me, I grew up on, like, three six have. That was. That was my biggest influence.

And just like, old spine of suicide. Yeah, yeah. Like, old Memphis music from, like, the nineties. And my uncle put me on that when I was, like, eight years old, and I just got obsessed. But other than that, I came from more of, like, a trap music background.

Scrim
Like trap house, dope deal, all that shit. And then. Yeah, him from the punk background and, like, hip hop. I was on the hip hop tip. Yeah.

Ruby Da Cherry
I was like an old head at, like, 25 years. Yeah.

I was like, this isn't philosophical enough. For me. Yeah. That's where we differ also. Yeah.

He made me realize that I was. I was taking myself way too seriously as far as, like, my taste in music goes. Yeah. And I think a lot of people from New Orleans have, like, this elitist taste in music because, you know, the city's pretty, like, you know, there's music everywhere. Every day, every night.

There's music all over the place. So I think growing up here, you kind of, like, at least I did develop this elite taste. And he's the one that kind of knocked me down a couple pegs, and I realized, oh, some music is just fun. It doesn't all have to be so serious, like, with a message and shit. Yeah.

Theo Von
Yeah. That's the vibe I get from, like, and even getting go to one of y'all shows, like, just, like, there's this legion of people that want to just have this experience. Yeah. You know, they want to be in this, like, disturbing moment. You know, like, they like the song, but it's almost like they're anthems, too, to them.

Ruby Da Cherry
That's a good word. Feelings that they have. It's interesting. That's a good way to put it, bro. Dude, it's a lot of.

A lot of these kids are, like, misfits and outcasts and weirdos and, like he said, never felt comfortable in his own skin. I can relate to that very well, you know, myself. So I think we provide a place for these kids to feel like they're surrounded by their people. Yeah. And they come and they, like, unity.

Theo Von
Yeah. And that's, like, this emotional. Like, they can, like, get their emotions out by getting in the pit or yelling lyrics or, like, you know, maybe you'll meet a girl there. You might meet your best friend there. I always like to think that after these shows, like, these kids stay in touch and, like, it's, like, whole community for us.

Scrim
And they do. I've seen it. They do. And I think they share a connection with us, which I love, because I don't ever want them to look at us as. I want us to be humanized to them, for sure.

Theo Von
Oh, it felt like it, dude. When I was at. I remember even going from backstage and being around the people that. The night I was there, I think you guys had Shakewell. Nashville.

Yeah, Nashville. And who else? Tall black dude, germ. Nyla Bell was there. Shakewell Chetta was there.

Ruby Da Cherry
Turnstile. No, not that he pull you who you know, and he wasn't there. Yeah. Cheddar was there. But I remember from even just the people that were backstage, the people working with you, with y'all, to the crowd, I couldn't tell the difference between who the fuck was who anyway.

Theo Von
You know what I'm saying? I accused seven of people to be in them. Shake well and check. Yeah. I met two girls that look like Chet is a handsome guy.

He's a good looking dude, and they were pretty girls. I'm just saying that it just. It feel like all the same people. It just feels like. It doesn't feel like there's a.

Ruby Da Cherry
It's uniform. It's like. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't feel like you guys are in, like, a superior place. I don't ever want anyone to feel like I think I'm better than them.

Scrim
I don't like that. You know what I'm saying? I don't like that at all. I never want to be looked at as if I, like, punched down or anything. Like.

Yeah, no, I hope I would never put myself out there to be looked at in that light, because I don't feel like I'm better than even the people that come to the show do. I don't feel like I'm better than any of them. The people that are helping us at the shows and working and putting the sets together, and we thank every night. Thank the security and then the venue workers. Cause it's true.

Ruby Da Cherry
Without them, you know, it takes a lot of people to throw a show and to throw a tour. And it's not just all about the glitz and the glamour, because we people know our names and our faces. You know, a lot of people put hard work into this. And, you know, Scott and I have been able to remain humble throughout all of this, and we love meeting the fans and talking with them, but we do have our boundaries. And I.

We've never been a dick to the fans, except if they deserved it. You know, I use that word loosely, but, you know, kind of crossing that boundaries, imposing on our personal space a little too much to where we have to say something. Yeah, sometimes you gotta. You also have to. I got into it with a commie in my comments the other day.

Scrim
You know, like, shit. Like that communist guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He said he was gonna come take all my shit.

Ruby Da Cherry
Distributed. Come try. Yeah, dude. To take all somebody shit, that would take two or three days, bro. You can't.

Scrim
He told me I was out. No. So, I don't know. He had an ex girl. I'm sorry, this is too much.

Ruby Da Cherry
But he had an ex girl take all his shit out of its house in a couple days. Oh, yeah. So it's possible. It's possible. I was in rehab with a bag of underwear, some shirts from h amp m that Kyle bought me for rehab, and, like, fucking ten grand left to my name, which sounds like a lot to some people, but, you know, I mean, at the time, bro, I probably.

Scrim
I had, like, a million dollar house and what a million dollars you would say. And I was. That's what I was down to, so. Wow. Yeah, dude.

Theo Von
Well, it's funny because sometimes when you go to rehab and shit, people will pack a bag, and the most thing they put in there, the most. Bro. Underpants, bro. It's almost like it's important, but it's like, bro, at least help me. I was like, I'll figure the rest out.

Scrim
You know what I'm saying? You'll see somebody in rehab wearing, like, underpants as a shirt. Oh, bro, I went to. I went to, like, target before I went to rehab and just bought all cozy, comfortable clothes. Ruby's in a bunch of onesies.

That is something he would. I mean, you can't go anywhere. You can't do anything. You don't have a phone. So what's the point in, like, trying to dress to impress?

Theo Von
Ruby's got one of those portable fireplaces he got going on. They had Roku's in the. So when you guys first start putting the tunes together, then how does that kind of happen? I mean, I know there's a lot of lore out there, but I just want my fan base to know, too, man, that, you know, you guys are out of Louisiana. You guys have created this universe that's really super unique, man.

Like, you guys thing is. It's its own thing. Thank you. It's its own fan base. It's its own.

I never know who will be a suicide boys fan. It trips me out, bro. It. I don't think we haven't gotten used to any of this either, bro. Like, even.

Scrim
Even coming here today, it was, like, really nerve wracking. You know, we're really introverted. But as far as the music, I mean, when you say, like, how does it get created? Are you talking about, like, from a creative standpoint, when we get together and actually make the song? Or, like.

Like, how did we get together and get to this? Yeah. You mean like the origin or, like. Yeah. I know you guys are cousins, right?

Theo Von
I know you guys have that family. I mean, I even think that you guys look like. People tell you that a lot. Our moms are sisters. Oh, yeah.

Ruby Da Cherry
He looks kind of like my brother. But I don't think we've ever gotten compared personally. Maybe when we were younger. Yeah, when we were younger. But it's just.

Theo Von
It's a kind of wildest sound or feeling or thing to come out of New Orleans. It's. It's really interesting. Cause you wouldn't think if you played you guys music for people from, you know, and they were like, where do you think this came out of? I don't know if they would say.

I don't know if they wouldn't. Right? I agree. But it's just what you guys have is so unique. It's not mainstream.

It's your own thing. It's huge. I mean, you guys play. You guys are playing arenas. You know, it's like.

It's fucking crazy. It is. And it's kind of. It's all you. It's all you and your fans thing.

Right. That's what I think is. Feels like it's y'all's thing. It almost feels. I almost feel like an outsider even getting to spend time with you, in a way.

Right. I mean, you and I are close, and I'm grateful to. We're both from Louisiana, and so I'm grateful for it. But still, I know that that's y'all's world, right? And so I guess what I'm asking.

Yeah. Like, how does that first thing start to kick off? And how do you know you're making something that you feel brave enough to put out there? Or were you just. Wait, were you just kind of.

Scrim
So he started off like, he used to rap, and he was. You were in a lot of bands growing up? My path was different. I started off djing when I was 13. I was listening to Q 93, you know Q 93?

Theo Von
Oh, yeah. And DJ Rowe was on there, and he was. It was the first time I ever heard someone blend two songs together. And it tripped me out. So my parents got me, like, this little hundred dollar dj setup for Christmas.

Scrim
I started from there about fast forward, you know, I'm djing parties, all that throughout high school. And that was fire, huh? Friday. Yeah, it went down. It went down.

Kyle knows it went down. People needed you. We had some good times, bro. It was wild, legendary times. And then 19.

Fast forward. I'm about 19. And that's when I got into producing and engineering, like, recording people and mixing. I never really wanted to rap. I would do it for fun, but I never.

I thought it was whack to be white and be a rapper. I didn't see too many out there that pulled it off good. Yeah. You got to really know you can do it. Yeah.

So I was like. I always felt like my place was more behind the scenes, and then I made a couple mixtapes for fun while on, like, my off days when I was working at the furniture store. He reaches back out. He was hella furniture. Bronco signing used furniture.

Theo Von
Who was it for, bro? What? Furniture?

Yeah, dude, I rented some for fucking wine during Katrina. We had an apartment or something, and we put some furniture in there, and somebody. Yeah, some dude stole, like, we had three Ottomans in that bitch. Some dude took just the Ottomans. That was a crazy thing, you know?

You don't see a lot of just solely ottoman theft. Yeah, no, I don't. Usually can take the love. See, bro. Cause who's gonna lay on the floor and just put their feet up?

Scrim
He must have been desperate, bro. So that guy's a real adventure. Yeah, I like it. I like. I wouldn't even be mad at him, you know what I'm saying?

If you just taking the ottoman, I ain't even. So when people came in the door, you were showing the furniture? Oh, yeah, bro. Oh, my. If I could fuck it, that would be my dream, dude.

Theo Von
If I showed up and you got to show me. I had. I had that. I had to fade back then. My face had to be shaved.

Scrim
I had to wear makeup on my hands at one point, cuz I got my hands tattooed, which ultimately got me fired. But I worked there for, like, three years, and then we. We were like. We would keep in touch with each other. He would hit me up and.

And I think it was around. Yeah, it was when I got fired. I don't know if you had just graduated from Loyola, but he. He wanted to come and film a music video for one of my songs, which I. I thought he was trolling me the whole time.

Ruby Da Cherry
I was like, no. The first time, he's fucking with me. But said, no, he. He's the one that convinced me. He's like, nah, you're actually pretty good at rapping, bro.

Scrim
You should take this serious. And then from there, that's how. That's how we linked up, we did that video, and then g five nine came about because that was. That was like a little click back in, like, high school and even a little bit after high school, we thought we were thugs, bro. We thought we were gangsters and shit.

And everybody on the east side of Highway 59 and our color was gray. We thought we were banging and shit. We thought we were bad. And a lot of those guys either died from drug overdoses or got in trouble or some shit, so. But we kept the name alive by, like, we got together, we're like, all right, you know, let's.

Let's. The name was already there. Yeah, he was. Yeah. Audi was the one that pointed that out.

Like this. Let's roll with this. I just thought G 59 grapefied was a hard ass fucking name, and he was already repping it, so I figured, linked up. Why not just run with that? Yeah.

Ruby Da Cherry
You know? Anything I missed, like, I was actually gonna say, besides your side. No, no. I was just. I was gonna say, it's funny because when he started making beats, back in, like, 2008, 2009, he bought a MacBook, started making beats.

And around that time, I was getting really into, like, hip hop and currency and stuff, like, being from down here, and I. He was telling me he was making beats, and I was like, yo, can you show me how you do this? Like, I would be interested in learning. He's like, yeah, I got you. And he's like, show me how he does it.

And he taught me how to make beats. It's just so funny that now we're still doing the same, you know? Yeah. So it just kind of evolved from there. And then you start putting on shows locally.

Yeah, we would use. We would book shows on, like, the North Shore and Baton Rouge or whatever, because. All right. We'd be real with you. We knew no one was gonna come.

No one knew who the fuck we were. We were just starting out, so we knew we didn't expect anybody to come. And we would use those live shows as practice to see what is gonna work, what's not gonna work, the things we can do to fuck with the crowd and all that stuff. And at first, we did a lot. Of open mics, too.

A lot of open mics. Wow. Actually performing or just as comedy? No, as music. Like, bands and rappers win, like, a $1,000.

Theo Von
Right, right. Win a $1000 unlimited. Always. Third time we did it. We finally.

Scrim
We won. We won it. We just took all that money and bought t shirts, like blanks. And then we just printed all our own t shirts. And we would literally text people, like, when I buy one.

Ruby Da Cherry
And then Scott would, like, drive it to them and deliver. That's still what you guys. This whole thing feels like to me. Not. It doesn't feel small like that, but it feels like that.

Well, dude. Cause I'll see, like, fonts and things, and it's like, I don't understand it. Cause I haven't known the music from the beginning, right? Yeah. So I'm like, oh, this is their world, but it's just beloved in that space, you know?

Yeah. And it's. It's. It's interesting that you say that. Cause.

Fuck. What did you just say? Remind me what you just said. Yeah, you drove what you would drive over the delivery. That's a.

Theo Von
Oh, right. So it is, in a way, it. Still feels the same as, like, our roots, you know? Obviously, we're not driving t shirts to people anymore, but Scott and I are still very much involved, very hands on, and I think we fucking care, dude. This is our baby, and we.

Ruby Da Cherry
We love it, and it's loved us back, and we want to take care of it. And distancing ourselves from it because we've gained money and egos is not really something that we're interested in doing. We're very aware of that, too, you know? Yeah. This shit has saved our lives, bro.

Scrim
I don't know any other force or consequence that might have been powerful enough to make us even consider to go get help and get clean. You know what I'm saying? Cause we had something to live for. We had something to lose. Not just the business, not just the label, but each other.

Ruby Da Cherry
Yeah. It's bigger than us. We employ people. It's way bigger than me, and it's bigger than any of us. I think that's something, like he just said that we tell ourselves constantly to just keep ourselves down to earth and, you know, because it's easy, dude, to get.

To be successful and get caught up in yourself, it's easy because if anything, you have to fight that shit off. You know what I mean? I'm sure you know, bro. Yeah, yeah. It's a battle I've dealt with, and some.

Theo Von
Some days I win, some days I lose. Over time, it's gotten better. Yeah. And especially if you're hands on, used to doing things, and that becomes a part of. Because you're, you know, you want everything to be perfect.

Learning to let other people help you, and then your ego can build without you even noticing it. Oh, yeah, you think like, oh, I'm just proud of myself. But that, fuck, 95% of that cup could be ego. So it's interesting, man. It is, it is.

I think it's funny you say that, though, Scott, like, about something saving you. Yeah. There's a lot of times where if I didn't have to pocket, I'm like, there's some temptation that'll happen the night before. And, like, I got a podcast tomorrow, or I have a show to do. I have some responsibility.

I got to get an edit from my producers, or one of them is waiting on the email from me or something, or I'm waiting from them, and it keeps me going. Yeah, bro, I would have. I would have been, you know, for a long time. I would argue that drugs kept me alive. Cause I just.

Scrim
I didn't know how to live in this world. Didn't want to live in this world at all, but at the same time, didn't quite have the balls to take myself out. Oh, yeah. So I'd say that drugs kept me alive for a long time. I mean, you know, so much pain.

Theo Von
You didn't like, what was. What was the tough part for you, you think? Well, I think it was a mixture, dude. I think it was, um. Like I said, just.

Scrim
Just being born. Like I just feeling out of place, like always. Like something wasn't right. Um, which is like a common theme with addicts. Yeah.

Theo Von
Like, I'm a large in the worlds of fucking media, worlds of seven xl. I'm wandering around my own shirt. I'm trying to find a neck hole, bro. So I think it's a. And they've done a lot of.

Scrim
I mean, they've done a lot of work on this and they know it's like genetics. I won't get into all that, but, you know, part of that. And I think also, you know, the way I grew up and, you know, when I say this, dude, I'm not. I love everyone in my family. I go.

I'll go above and beyond for any one of them. But, you know, everybody was doing the best they could with what they knew how to do. Um, but it was still tough, you know, it was. It was some tough shit to grow up in, you know? So, um, that didn't help.

But I tell you the biggest thing, and I'll. I'll shut up. That way I don't get too over window with this. Cause I have a tendency to do that. But, um, I always thought, like, this thing, like, okay, the drugs are not working anymore.

They're not doing it for me, but this thing. This thing's gonna do it for me once we get to that place, whatever that place is in my head, whenever I get that thing, that's gonna do it for me. And then I got really suicidal when we got there, wherever there is, and nothing changed. And nothing changed, I felt. Now I feel worse.

Cause if this don't work, what's gonna do it? And that's, you know, that's when I really started to spiral. And for me, and I'll end it with this, the answer for me has been getting involved in the twelve step programs. Yeah. It's been more of a spiritual answer rather than the material, you know?

Theo Von
Yeah, man. I remember I was in my garage was like, probably two years ago, man. I was balling up, talking my brother on the phone. I was like, nothing will save me. It was like, I got people that like me.

I thought that's what was my problem. Same. If enough people like me, I'll like me. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it was like, fuck, man. One day I make me emotional. I asked backwards, because you have to like yourself first and then. Yeah, the other stuff. But it's crazy to think, man, you know, that that's kind of the way that it could kind of process and.

And, um. Yeah, but I see you in the rooms, man. It gives me a lot of hope every time I see you. Same too, bro. Dude, I was in going, you know, I was in the way.

You run your rooms, bro. And not to over talk you, but it's good, you know, you have a lot of respect of a lot of people in there. And it's, um. And it's cool, man. I've been blessed, bro.

Scrim
And for you, bro, I was. Yeah. They taste kind of shitty. You want a fresh one? All right.

Come on, brother. Let me at least do you that service. Yeah, bro, look, we can't be popping pills, bro. We gonna nick it out. I've been wearing shady rays.

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Scrim
Just got to where I was living on my own in California, where I went, got sober, and I came across your video on YouTube. That was my introduction to you, and it was why I got sober. It was that video. And then from there, you know, I watched that video, and you inspired me, bro, and you gave me hope. And then that's when I did a deep dive on you, started watching all, like, your greatest hits and highlights and shit.

Laughing my ass off. But that's funny. That's how I came to know you. But, yeah, before we even knew each other, bro, you. You gave me a little bump, and I needed it, too, with that video game, man.

Theo Von
Thanks, bro. Yeah. It's crazy. Kind of. I think the connection that people get going through, like, if they're using or if they're recovering, it's, like, on both sides of that, it seems like there's probably a lot of connection.

You guys could probably speak to that, huh? You think? What you mean? Like, even on the using side, there's, like, a level of connection that. That keeps people.

Ruby Da Cherry
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, that'll keep you in the act of addiction by, you know, you kind of almost. When I was buying pills and shit and snorting Roxy's, I never wanted to do them alone. And so I would share with everybody, and I was making money so I could buy a bunch, and I would share with people that were my friends that didn't make as much money, and they were glad, happy to get free pills, and I could, like, be in my dark shit, but not alone.

I think a lot of addicts are chasing loneliness. They're chasing. They're having trouble with self acceptance. And I think finding your little group of like, similar drugs that you want to do together definitely makes you feel like you're safe and at home. Yeah.

And then the exact opposite happens when you get off of them, too. You find your people that want to stay away from that shit, and it kind of strengthens your. Your little community that you're in. Yeah. Yeah.

Theo Von
What were some of the hot, like, would have been some of the highlights. I mean. Cause you guys have a success that I think, like, a lot of people don't really know it. In a lot of ways, a lot of people do, but y'all aren't a mainstream thing. Yeah.

It's like, is that offensive to say to you? If anything, I kind of take offense to the opposite, that people do consider us mainstream, and I don't think we are. We are and maybe how popular we are or how many people listen to us, but, you know, you're not gonna. See people like the gatekeeper. You know what I'm saying?

Ruby Da Cherry
Especially our fan base, gatekeep. What does that mean? When people say gatekeep, they feel like it's their thing. Oh, you have to deserve to be our fan. Yeah.

Theo Von
It feels like that, though. You know, every. Every fan that we meet, whether it's like we're just out and about and we run into somebody that recognizes us. Ask him, and I bet you he'll back me up. Ten times out of ten, they tell me that they've listened to us since 2015.

Scrim
Yeah. Which. Or they'll say, I've been listening to you guys since y'all started. I've been a fan since 2012, since. I was in 7th grade.

And now they're 20 something. Yeah, exactly. But the 2015 thing is funny. Someone's still in the same 7th grade, too, bro.

Theo Von
Hey, bro, I did fifth twice, homie. We've been in there, bro. We've all done it since, man.

Yeah, it is. It's their world. That's why even, like, with talking with you guys, it feels, since I wasn't there from the beginning, you don't feel a little bit of. You're like, oh, this is their thing. Even when I meet y'all's fans, it feels like that.

Ruby Da Cherry
Yeah. It feels like there are people that have feelings and they've been through something. That's what it kind of feels like. Y'all shows are real interesting, man. Cause it's such a.

Theo Von
Like a. It's such a kickoff, and then it's almost like running downfield the whole show, you know? It just feels like a good way to. It's intense, man. And the crowd gets going.

I mean, this is a lot going on. You got the people up by the front just like, almost like, it's like a big long up there. They're just kind of like. He told me this early on, man. Like, we were doing a show.

Scrim
We were about to do a show in New York, and only three people were showing up. And I. Me and some other rappers were like, fuck this. We ain't doing this. And he taught me a lesson early.

He's like, bro, it doesn't matter if one person shows up or thousands. Like, you give that person a show. And ever since then, that's. I've ran with that, you know? And it's like, anytime I'm out there.

Ruby Da Cherry
Like, yeah, if these. If these people are paying to come watch me perform, then the last thing I want to do is just sit there, you know, like, I want. Writing your own self. Yeah, yeah. And just like, be still.

Scrim
I don't know if that makes sense, but I want to. I want to go out there and give them energy. Like, give them everything I got. And like I said, dude, worst case scenario, one person showed up. It's a fucking practice.

Ruby Da Cherry
Like, yeah, yeah, you keep the. You don't get rusty. You keep it going, because, you know, we'll tour once a year, really, two, three months at the end of the year. And the first few shows we do, it's. It's.

We kind of, like, forget. Yeah, or we'll forget certain lyrics. We're like, fuck, do. We've done this for ten years. How are we forgetting this shit?

You have to get back in the groove. Yeah, you got to get back in the groove, man. Yeah. So you guys, now there's a new album coming out. What is it like to, like, evolve?

Theo Von
Like, does it. Is it scary to evolve? I think about it even, like, in comedy and stuff, I'm like, what the heck? Like, you know, some of your, like, that listen to you. They.

They listen to you at a certain age, but they're getting older, too. Some of them are all different ages. So how do you try and apply to everybody? I'm really glad you asked. That's a great question.

And how do you apply. Try to also apply to yourself at the same time. So we might have two different. I think it'll. I think at first, we were scared to kind of change the sound up because the formula was working.

Scrim
Yeah. And we were worried about, like, introducing new stuff because what if they don't like it and this and that, and the more successful you get is like, the scarier it gets because you think one wrong fucking move, and it all crumbles, which isn't true, but we started experimenting, doing some, like, singing stuff or whatever, and people seemed to fuck with it. And then we got to a point to where we don't. We didn't really care if they didn't like it or not. Scott and I have been making this music for so long now that if we want to try something experimental or new, I think we deserve to at this point.

Ruby Da Cherry
So it can be a scary thing, but I think, you know, don't fear it and just. Just do it and see what happens. Yeah, I think I agree 100% on everything you said from on a more. I don't know if you went through this, too, but for me, on a more personal level, when I got sober, it was like I had a. Like, I was so scared because I thought my drug use fueled all my creativity.

Yeah, that was definitely a thought, for sure. Yeah. And so, like, for me, I. Once I finally did start getting back into it, it was literally like learning how to walk all over again. It is, really.

Scrim
And the sound did kind of change as a result of that. Beat wise, production wise, more, like. Yes. Less scary and. Yes.

Ruby Da Cherry
Sad sounding. Yes. So I think the evolution of our music has matched exactly the evolution of us. Of us. Yeah.

That's a great. That's a great point. That's how I look at it. What was it like? If you're, like, on pills and you're deep out on pills?

Theo Von
I never really got that out on them. You know, if you're, like, huff and tranq or whatever. I don't even know what some of the names.

Swamp pebbles or whatever, anything. Oh, bro. Flavored perk out here, bro. In New Orleans, they don't give a shit, bro. You left a fucking pecan crusted Zanbar.

Like, what the fuck? Everybody wants to be a chef in this movie. That's pretty funny. Colleen, Adderalls? Yeah.

Oh, you'll have a bag of chalk grilled somas over here.

Ruby Da Cherry
That's pretty funny. But what was it like making music when you're under that influence? Is it even possible to make music when you're that kind of pill high? I don't know. So I'm just curious, like.

Theo Von
Or is it just possible to just, like, listen back, or is it. Do you feel any creative. Was there any creativity from the actual high of that? I don't know if we work differently. Cause I know sometimes you would wait until after we were done, but this was early on to smoke.

Ruby Da Cherry
Yeah, it's. I still smoke weed. I couldn't go without it. Now Ruby couldn't either. You know what I'm saying?

Scrim
So we were constantly on it all day. So it's kind of like just feeling normal. Yeah, I would. I would agree with that. Yeah.

Theo Von
Doze off and shit. I mean, that's like, how do you find you? So do we both awake at the same time to make a trash? When you take a Percocet first thing in the morning or whatever your oxy, whatever it is, it's gonna give you a boost. Like, I'll come out of that bathroom snorting something, and I'm like, what's up, motherfuckers?

Ruby Da Cherry
Like, I'm like, on one. Yeah. And then as you keep dosing, at the end of the day, it's kind of like when you've, you know, you've done all day it, and that's when you start to kind of nod off. It's like your body's like, okay. For me, I was mixing so much stuff.

Scrim
So much. This kid was all over the fucking place and down. But you can hear it in the music now. Sometimes we go back for laughs and we'll listen to some of the shit I made when I was, like, in psychosis. Would you say is the most fucked up and it's ever were for an album?

I want to die in New Orleans. I think mine is. Yeah, I think mine is a. Stop staring his mind. Really?

Ruby Da Cherry
Yeah. I hate that album. You did. You did phenomenal on it. But I was so far gone, dude.

Scrim
I was. I was literally in psychosis from doing so much speed and downers, bro. I thought Southwest Airlines was trying to kill me. I thought you told me that story. I thought Kyle took a life insurance policy out for 70 grand.

Theo Von
This motherfucker, bro, that's the most New Orleans shit ever, bro. Somebody takes a life insurance policy out for $700, bro, just for want to make it their truck payment. That's the fucking most New Orleans shit, bro. I remember that we were in New Zealand when he told me that you thought that they were putting a hit out on us. Yeah, he thought, like, what do you.

Say when he sits you down? I'll put them through hell. At one point, I was starting to get really impatient with it because, like, I was tired of explaining. I was tired of explaining that, like, this insane theory wasn't actually happening. I would.

Scrim
One time I thought he had my phone tab. This was one time he quit suicide boys on Twitter. I don't know if you remember that. Oh, I remember. And he, at the time, he had just bought a condo in Bradenton, Florida, outside of Sarasota.

Ruby Da Cherry
And I can't get in touch with them. Kyle can't get in touch with them. And we decide, let's go out there. Let's just press him. Let's be in person.

So, long story short, we fly down there, rent a car, drive to his apartment, and he doesn't expect us. He doesn't know we're coming. We go upstairs, and I knock on the door, and he's like, 1 second. I think to myself, like, man, I just flew out here and drift. Fuck that.

I'm not waiting a second. I was like, bro, I'm here. What's up? Like, what's the problem? And he was like, uh, give me a second.

He had to go to the bathroom, do his little thing. Catch my drift? And then we came outside. He was ready to talk. And this long story to say, I was trying to, like, see, I was like, is he fucking with me?

Is he lying to me? Is he thinking I'm. Does he think I'm stupid? Or does he actually believe this shit? And is he fucking crazy?

So I had to sit him down, and I was like, bro, the southwest thing, do you think that the board, like, the people on the board of Southwest sit in a boardroom? Southwest Airlines. Southwest Airlines. And they discuss how we're going to assassinate scrim from suicide boys. And he looked at me dead in the eyes, the most serious look on his face, and he goes, yes.

And I lost my mind, bro. I took my phone and I threw it on the. I was trying to hit the grass, but I hit the sidewalk. The fucker sparked and you off even more. Yeah, yeah.

Scrim
I thought they were trying to kill me because my brother had bootlegged one of our tracks and because he was bad off on dope and sold it to this person for, like, $800, but actually didn't give him the song. I just scammed them. And I thought the person he scammed was the son of somebody on the board of Southwest. And they were so gonna take me. Out to speak on the other.

Ruby Da Cherry
To speak on the other side of things. I'm thinking, what is coming out of his mouth? Is it real or not? Come to find out the story of his brother stealing a song and selling it is true. So it's like.

And I'm sitting there, and I feel bad. Cause I'm, like, been calling him a liar in my head and all this shit. And then I find out. It's true. So then I'm like, all right, so is all of this true?

I still refuse to believe that the board of Southwest is meeting to discuss his assassination. But I had my brother and my. Family fucking time, bro. I was very convincing. I had fans tweeting at Southwest Airlines on Twitter.

Yeah, that's crazy. But that was toward the end. That was, like, when I was really spiraling. Fuck, dude. It's interesting, though, that you guys were at least had a close enough connection because a lot of bands fall apart from that kind of stuff.

Theo Von
A lot of our groups, a lot of teams fall apart. Everything falls apart. We're family. I'm glad you. I don't know, you know that.

Ruby Da Cherry
But we're family. Right? But for you to go there and want to actually, just to think, let me see what's really going on with it. Dude. We've never even hit each other.

Like, we've gotten in each other's faces ready to fucking beat the shit out of each other, and we've both been able, like, you're my cousin, and I don't want to do that. I don't want to hit you. I fucking hate you right now, but I'm not going to touch you. Like. And it's gone both ways.

And I say that the family thing, which obviously doesn't apply to everybody, but we've been able to look at the fact that we're cousins and the fact that we provide for our families, which is a shared family, as a reason to never give up on each other. If this was just one of my friends, I don't think it would have been the same. No. Like, no. No way.

Scrim
That's good that you brought that up, because a lot of. A lot of groups just don't make it in general. And doing business with family is usually not a smart way to go, but for us, I mean, the only time it worked out. Yeah. I think it's just a unique situation, bro.

We got it. We both got the same granny to answer to, and she ain't nothing nice. You know what I'm saying? Like, she's done. She me before scary woman.

She done facetime me before. Being like, you making music without your cousin, you know, that's just, like, pressing. I was like. And I'd have to call her and be like, granny, I got it. Yeah.

Ruby Da Cherry
He's gonna think that I'm, like, fucking venting to you. Does she stay up late or. No, I don't think Granny, she's almost 80 now. She was a bus driver for the. For the parish.

Scrim
Jefferson Parish. Her whole west, pretty much her whole life. Yeah. Drove me to school from kindergarten to high school. Dang, brother.

Um, real working woman, bro. And Wagaman shoot, man handle like grown, like seniors. Yeah, I watched her. I'm telling you, you don't want to fuck with that lady. Oh, she's from wagon, bro.

Theo Von
Come on. The first seat, they'll have a crock pot going in.

They got lunch going. I made your pot of gumbo. That's back when the bus. And I'm gonna just pick up a strange on that. You'd have two raccoons in a fourth row, bro.

Yeah. Fucking nutrient that bitch, bro. Dude, the bus people used to cut, like, it used to be, like, the green seat cover or might have. Sometimes they were green and sometimes they were black. People would cut a little, like, slice in there.

People put dope off the bus. They even realized the bus the whole time was just driving dope around the damn. I never thought of that. Yeah, people would keep everything. They would slice it in back.

The inside of the seat was hollow. People keep all kind of shit out. Super crafty motherfuckers. I was too busy fingering girls in the back of the bus. Oh, you was in the 11th row?

Scrim
Yeah. Yeah. That was a red light district at a bus. Brandy put it on Q 93. Q 93, Wayne.

Theo Von
Yeah. Do remember Wild Wayne, bro. Mm hmm. What was some of the things they would say on there? Q 93, boys.

Ruby Da Cherry
I remember when the Saints were going to the Super Bowl. Q 93 hosted, like, some show at the Holland Wolf, and they had, like, every that year because the Saints were doing so well. Everybody came out with the Saints song. You remember that shit? Wild Wayne hosted this show.

It was like all these saints rappers out there. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think. Look up wild. Wild Wayne.

Theo Von
Q 93. See if we could play even their intro. I remember DJ Rowe would come on either four or 05:00 every day. DJ row in the mix.

Scrim
I pissed the idea to wine the court that they need to advertise on Q 93. And they did it. They did it. They did it. While Wayne Autumn came in.

Theo Von
Nah. Yeah, yeah, we were. We was bumping, bro. That's touching. This is 2002.

Ruby Da Cherry
It's crazy. We were selling. Selling the shit out some furniture after that. Did y'all, was there some moments where you guys got to connect with some local artists when y'all started coming up? Or how did that kind of go, man, we've gotten.

I'm gonna say it. City fucking hates us. Yeah. They do. We don't get no love.

Get any love from the city. Not from people in the city. Artists, nothing. We don't. Interesting.

We're not even doing a show this year in New Orleans because we don't feel the love and we're kind of a little annoyed. Yeah, we got out of every arena we went to last year. New Orleans absolutely treated us the worst garbage, dude. Like we were. It was like they were doing us a favor.

Scrim
Yeah. I was actually, like, mind blown by it. But, um. And what is it, do you think? Do, do?

Theo Von
Yeah. What do you think some of that is? You guys? It's a D. You guys are something so different.

Scrim
Right, right. I don't know if that has something to do with it. I think people get turned off by the name suicide boys. And I know that, like, that's doesn't fuck with us because of that. But what a lot of people don't understand is it's not, you know, it might have started off as, like, a way to say stupid shit, but it's definitely become a thing that people relate to and it's become an important part of some kids lives.

Ruby Da Cherry
And, you know, Scott and I want people to do well. You know, we're not, like, trying to, like, tear people down. So it's funny how people get the wrong idea. I'm glad you said that because we never intended. We never had, like, this grand idea or intention for it to turn into this, like, community and turn into or, like, have kids being like, yo, you saved my life.

Scrim
Or like, the emails that Kyle and them get through. Fan letters. Yeah, all sorts of shit. So I think if. If people were to dig past the surface, you know, they would.

They would see. But I think that also goes into, like, this is bigger than us, dude. Like, it's real interesting, man. I get more requests for you guys in any, ever. Really.

Theo Von
When all, dude, every if it. I feel like kind of saying, bro, everybody's been like, yo, y'all gotta go. Money sign to be when they send it. At first I thought it was people just trying to get me to send them cash. Sending money to Ob.

Scrim
Yeah. The first thousand I got, I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? Dude, they must really. They running a go fund me be hurting. But then.

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Scrim
Did you catch it? I didn't see it. I caught it. I was struggling to stay up, bro. I go to bed.

I'm like a grandpa now, ever since I got sober. But it's only. It was late as hell. We were there going stage or whatever till 02:00. I was there, man.

Yeah, I was. I was rooting for him, bro. And Lafayette boy. Yeah, I think he did great, bro. Me too.

Ruby Da Cherry
He did know he lost. Islam one. Yeah, Islam one. What was in it? What, by chokehold?

Theo Von
Yeah, but it was so close. It was in the fourth round. But if this was a crawfish eating competition. Yeah, all day. Look, he's almost shaped like a crawfish right there.

Dustin didn't win, but I really didn't feel like he lost. I mean, this dude. Everybody thought this dude was gonna roll. Like. Yeah, I don't wanna say that.

Safe to say, Nick, huh? People thought that Islam was gonna beat him. Cause he beats everybody. Yeah. And Dustin took that dude.

Ruby Da Cherry
So he puts a dog. Dustin is a dog, bro. You gotta be, bro. You gotta be. And you could tell, man.

Theo Von
It's just interesting the different ways a lot of people used to express themselves. You know, like, if it's music or comedy or art. Well, I've gotten in. We've both gotten into training boxing. Yeah.

Ruby Da Cherry
Yeah. We've been doing that for the past couple years. And, bro, that in itself is an art and a science and something to be respected. So now when I watch this, I have a whole different. I grew up watching it with my paw.

Scrim
Paw. Anyway, he was a boxer, but, like, I watched these guys, bro, and the amount of respect I have for them, just in the little training that we do, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, it seems like these guys are built different. Anything you watch, skateboarding, boxing, whatever it is, it seems easy. Then once you actually get in it, you realize, oh, this is not easy.

Ruby Da Cherry
Throw four punches and you're winded. And you're like, how the fuck these dudes do this for nine rounds? Like, oh, yeah, this is him at the end. I think we can play this. And I'm not 100%, but if this is my last fight.

Scrim
No. I wanted to dedicate this journey to the people who may be the man I am. And that's the women in my. My life. To my grandmother.

I miss you every day, and I know I'm still protected by your prayers. Hell, yeah. To my mother. We've had a crazy life. I love you.

Thanks for always having my back. And to my wife. I love you so much. I wouldn't be standing right here without you, babe. Julie, I don't know if I'd be breathing, honestly if it wasn't for you.

And to Parker. Daddy's wine. I love you so much. I'm so proud of you. We are at the end.

What a beautiful moment, man. Really cool, man. Dustin Poirier. See, that's his last fight, I hope. Not sure.

Theo Von
He's a fighter, man. I think the thing about him, he just, like, even if you don't get the w, it's like he just. There's something about him. He shows up to fight. Yeah.

And that's what I think everybody can relate to. It's like, yeah, all right, I can go fight. You know? I can fight through another day in my life, whether it's just feeling okay or. Well, when he was talking in the post conference interviews, he was bringing up the uncertainty of his future.

Scrim
And anytime lately, people bring that up. It makes me think about us, what we would do. Yeah. And what's next? I think we just give up music train for ten years and then we can put on our own headlining fight.

I'm about it. Me versus you. I don't want to do that. We can pull like a sopranos and right as a fight's about to start, it fates the black collector. Now.

That's brilliant. That's brilliant. Hit you, bro. I just told him I'm not gonna fucking hit you. That's brilliant.

Theo Von
Y'all could fight somebody, maybe. The Yin Yang twins. How old are they? Yeah. Yeah, bro, they have one of the best cribs episodes ever.

Ruby Da Cherry
The Yin Yang twins, they're just, like, shouting random noises, like the whole entertainment. Yeah, they got. Well, the saints took their song, wasn't it? Mm hmm. Yeah, I always thought that was kind of weird.

You know, some gates took the. The beat and made it into the real who, dad. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, but I think there was, like, some copyright issue.

Theo Von
Yeah, that's Yin yang. So K. Gates took it and made the hooks. Who, dad? Yeah.

Scrim
Okay. At the game, you'll hear the Yin Yang twins version. Yeah, but New Orleans is interesting, man. A lot of unique, bro. I was walking down this how we even got this art.

Theo Von
I'm walking down the street when I saw, like, going next door to get a coffee. I was thinking, man, it would be cool if we had some neat art. There's a dude sitting outside blazing with his homie. Oh, shit. It's Louis Armstrong, I think, or somebody.

It's a jazz player, this dude, Tyrell Shaw. And this is his art, man. And he's like. I was like, dude, I'm about to chat with the suicide boys. You want to put a piece in?

Ruby Da Cherry
That's cool. He's like, yeah, man, that's fire that. You put him on like that. I respect that. Supporting local art, baby.

Theo Von
It's kind of like, what? That's the thing about New Orleans. I mean, you could walk half a block. You'll see talent in the streets. You'll see ten.

You'll either get. Yeah, you'll either disappear in a pothole. We got no love disappeared apart. It was handing out. We was handing out mixtapes.

Scrim
And in bitches was going in the trash. Actually, I'm gonna tell the LSU story. Yeah. When we first started, like, recording and making music, really first attempting to do this shit, we made a cd for him, mixtape for him, and we got it printed, made 500 of them. I made the COVID for him.

Ruby Da Cherry
La la. We go, what are we gonna do with this? Let's go to shows and colleges. Let's go hand this shit out for this one. This is also, like in 2013.

So we're going old school. We go to LSU campus. We're staying with my brother because he's going to school there at the time. Wow. So y'all didn't go hand shit out?

Oh, yeah. And we go and like, that. That big part of the campus where, like, all the traffic, all the people are walking by. It's like in the in between. Oh, yeah.

Me and Scott handing out cds. Like, oh, you fuck with rap. Check this out. Whatever, bro. First of all, all them cds ended up in the trash.

Like, every fucking one. We turned around 3ft away from us as the cd on the ground. But the funniest thing that happened that day was, I love this part. It was some girl, this, like, nervous freshman heading to class, bunch of books in her bag. You could tell she's kind of on edge.

She's riding her bike, and she comes in front of me and Scott and rolls over his shoe. And Scott, well, we both do. But Scott loves white shoes. You know, the thing with white shoes is don't fucking scuff them. Like, keep them clean and don't ride a bike over.

Don't ride a bike over him. And ask him much. He. He flipped out. And I was just, like, laughing the whole time.

Cause I just thought it was funny. But he was like, what the fuck? And this girl looks so scared, bro. You gotta say this motherfucker still looked like this back then. And she took off, bro, to not look back.

And I'm just, like, dying laughing like, the white shoes, man. Like, I'll floor your whole lady. I lost count of how many fights I got in growing up over stepping on people shoes, bro. That's how we met. That's how me and Kyle met at fountain blue.

Scrim
Because this dude was cutting the lawn. I stepped in his way. It was exam week. I was starving. It was chicken tender.

Ruby Da Cherry
Chicken tender day. Lunch lady on that's the biggest day. He's cutting the line with his homies. I'm like, nah, this ain't happening today, bro. I stepped in the way.

Scrim
I step on his shoes. And then, you know, next thing I know I'm fighting him. Both of his sisters, who were. Who were built like linebackers, and a. Couple other guys, shouldery women in that area.

Yeah, yeah. That's how me and Kyle. That's how we got. That's how we met. He was like, yo, come roll with us from here.

Cause when I. You went to fountain blue. So check this out. When I first moved up there, I love this. I was.

Theo Von
Cause it's in St. Tiffany, Paris. So, yeah, so look, I grew up on the west bank where I'm Henry Ford. I'm used to. Go ahead, go ahead.

Ruby Da Cherry
I just want to set you up. Yes. You know this. But for our audience, you know, the Mandeville is the area of, like, the families that wear all white and take family portraits at the beach. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Theo Von
That's Mandeville. Yeah. It's fancy. That's the vibe. Yeah, yeah.

Ruby Da Cherry
So my back continue. Thank you for that. And West bank is definitely different, bro. There's a lot of places what we. Gotta do to get by.

Theo Von
Yeah, you'll have somebody get buried in an oyster half shell over there. Like, they got some couple cuties over there in tall timbers. I know that. But otherwise, you know, it gets a little bit. You never know, bro.

You'll have a dude have his eyes taken out of a couple dice. Put in 100%. Yeah. All day. So Scott's coming from that area.

Scrim
I move. Yeah, our neighborhood's getting really bad. We just had my youngest brother. My dad's like, all right, I'm getting there. I'm getting the family up out of here.

Moved to Lacombe, right by Mandeville. So I go to fountain blue, right? I show up there, I got cornrows in. I got big, tall tee. I remember tall tees.

I had the big tall tee on. I had some jabots. That's about as baggy as these pants. Oh, lord. And my bus driver was black.

And even him, when I walked in the bus, he said, what the fuck are you doing? So alien just landed, bro. That's the first thing this man tells me on my first day of school to ever get on the bus. Five in the morning, he said, what the fuck are you doing? That's a long shirt you was in, too.

Theo Von
So I'm like, Scott got on the shirt guy. It took a few more seconds. The shirt. Yeah, he did. Somebody behind him like, yeah.

Scrim
So I sit down and I'm like, I get to the school. It's 2000 white kids, bro. Oh, yeah. So you want to talk about culture shock? I was like, I thought I landed on another planet.

Ruby Da Cherry
So did they. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Good point, bro. No one talked to me for a year.

Theo Von
Oh, I could see them. I was by myself, judging. Best to spend. It took me getting into a fight for Kyle and them to be like, are you good? Come on.

Damn. And then that's. Yes. That is a way to prove yourself. That's the short version of the story, you know?

Scrim
Yeah. There's something about walking around a school low when nobody talks to you, that you create this own universe in your head. Oh, yeah, my high school. No, it's like. It's like a first person game.

Theo Von
It's like, you know, you're living in a first person shooter world, you know? It's true. I was gonna say he had that experience. My experience in high school. I went to Jesuit, and it was all boys catholic prep school, whatever.

Ruby Da Cherry
And I definitely did not fit in in that school. When I. To this day, if I say I. Didn'T know you went to Jesuit. See, when I say I went to Jesuit, people are like, what?

You went to Jesuit? And I got involved with drugs early. I was, like, 14 early, to me. Yeah, I was gonna. I was actually gonna say that story, too.

I was, like, 14, and I started. I was like, I'm gonna try it all because I just tried weed, and it wasn't as bad as they said it was. So I'm gonna try it all. I'm gonna fuck bitches. I'm gonna do crack.

All that shit. I did it all. That's. The crazy bitches are smoking crack. Yeah.

Which is funny, because those two things really don't go together, actually. But anyway, I, like, spread this rumor about myself. I was snorting heroin on my desk in geometry class. Oh, yeah. And I did it because I got off to, like, how everybody thought I was crazy.

And I liked it. I liked people thinking I was crazy. So I let the rumor spread. When they got back to me, it was like, oh, adi slangs crack downtown to pay for his high school. La la la.

That's, like, what they were saying about me. That's crazy. And I confirmed all of this. To pay for your own way to private school? Why would I do that, first of all?

Second of all, I confirmed it all. I was like, yeah, all that's true. And let me tell you something, bro. No one fucked with me. Like, everyone let me be.

They thought I was cool, whatever. That was my way of, like, getting all those guys to fuck off, you know? It's an entrepreneurial thing. Yeah, that dude is. That dude is.

Scrim
Yeah, it's always been like. It's also, like, doing the most for, like, what? Yeah. Yeah, that was a fun time, bro. Yeah, you saw.

Theo Von
We used to always hear stories about Lil Wayne driving to school. Did y'all hear that story? Uh, uh. That little, like, somebody got in my car when he was 14. He didn't even have a license.

And he would drive to school when it was like a, um, home or I don't. Whatever. Whatever was hot at the time. Fucking prowler. Yeah, like that.

And he would drive in park by the teachers and shit. And nobody said nothing. Yeah, that. We always heard shit. That dude was famous since 14.

Ruby Da Cherry
Shit's crazy. And in juvenile, they used to have a room where he chase a woman with a ice pick. I wasn't a rumor. Yeah, yeah. In the neighborhood I live in.

I remember, like, so as a result. Of that, when I name a road after him, bro, check this out. When I was. When they found out I was moving in, the whole hoa had a meeting about a rapper. Oh, just recently.

Scrim
No, when I. When I first moved into that neighborhood a couple years ago, they had a meeting about whether or not we like this rapper moving in. But, I mean, little do they know that. I mean, dude, I'm so low key brain. It happened to us, too, when we had recently moved.

Oh, Florida, too. And they found out these two rappers were moving into the neighborhood and they threw a fucking fit, bro. They were not having it. And then we move in, they realize we like our quiet. Nice.

Ruby Da Cherry
Yeah, I was, like, picking up my neighbor's kid from his school, like, yeah, bro. Like, well, I think there's been a history of, like, I mean, you had, like, when I was in college, Master P would come over to the rec center and shoot ball. Oh, really? Would come with silk. And he would come with shout outs.

Theo Von
Yeah, he would come with silk. Still in jail, isn't he? No, see, murder still in jail. See, murder would come with them and they would have all kind of guys over there. But then some of those.

Yeah, like, see, murder went to jail. You had juvenile went to jail for a while, then he, BG went to jail. I think there's so much history of a lot of New Orleans rappers, like, mystical went to jail. Oh, yeah. So you have a lot of that culture.

I think it probably. Damn, I didn't even put all that together. How many, how many fearful for a lot of guys? You know, Lucy was in jail for long time. Like, what, five years, four years, eight?

I think maybe seven. Eight. Goddamn. I mean, we think about that. That's why boosie moved out like a decade.

Scrim
Oh, yeah. BG dad told us a story about his dad was in St. Tammany, and so is BG. Apparently BG one day just got fed up because imagine being a rapper. You go to jail.

Ruby Da Cherry
How many people are trying to freestyle to, you know, like, put me on whatever, and apparently on. And I'm in jail. Just walking in here. They were doing it, but there you go. Exactly.

So apparently BG one day makes an announcement to everybody, saying, if one more motherfucker comes up to me and freestyles, I'm gonna have a big problem. And they said, okay, bet. And they just beat the shit out of him. Anyway, first, I don't know. Your dad was in St.

Theo Von
Tammany? Yeah, he was in St. Tammany, like eight months. Six. Six.

Scrim
I think six months. It was a. It was a Dui. Shot your first video, like that week he got. He got out.

Ruby Da Cherry
Fucking crazy. It was like his first day out. Video type shit. You being. Did you.

Theo Von
Did you guys success give him like, any cloud in the hand? Did he say, or anything like that? That was way after. Yeah, that was before. That was like, actually right before we got started.

Scrim
We linked up and stuff. Do y'all see that Rick Ross car show, man? Mm. No, I know, I know. He's been.

Yeah, I know. He puts one on. He put one on his front trying to go. I think it just happened. I saw that boost before.

Theo Von
Look at. This is one I gotta put my prescription on. That's his cars. No, people bring their cars, bro. So they say pay to buy tickets to go to this.

Ruby Da Cherry
Oh, they probably got some crazy whips out there, bro. There's a couple. This is Miami. Oh, looks like it. Atlanta, maybe.

Scrim
I think it's. Yeah, there's one. Damn.

Ruby Da Cherry
That'S pretty wild. Never seen her shit like that before. Yeah, that's pretty cool. See if you get them. Want the horses, bro?

Theo Von
When you roll in, they got, um. Oh, yes. I think that's a van. Holy field. Oh, what is that, a fucking Ferrari?

Yep. Just as a horse trough. Fuck, bro. They got horses eating straight hay out of ferraris. Bat of a horse.

Yeah, that's more. People just be. That's horsepower right there, bro. That's the. Yeah, that's kind of like a wild.

That's a. Be coming up with the craziest ways. How many, how many, how much bigger can chains get? How much more expensive can your car doing? Crazy shit.

Yeah, look at this guy. All these speakers, this. Dude, this is wild looking. Was that that fucking Toyota, some of those suv? Yeah.

That's FJ. Yeah, that's crazy. Damn. With the dolphins colors. Do my dad have a cutlass?

My dad bought a cutlass from a couple brothers that live around the corner from us when I was a kid. I've told this story before, but I only have so much stories, but. And my dad was eight, like, probably 80 years old at the time, right? So he bars this bitch. It had 20 two's in the trunk, right?

He has no idea. He can't even fucking hear. So, bro, he would say subs, huh? Yeah, 20 two's, bro. Fucking huge, bro.

It was you, bro. He got it. The dude had to get rid of it quick, bro. So my dad ended up with it, dude. And he would take us to school, bro.

My brother got braces and bitches. Fucking. What were you listening to NPR radio. Fuck the news, bro. Cloud 80.

Ruby Da Cherry
80% chance hit, though. That thunder hit with them. 22, dude. On Q 93, though, it would be crazy because even the weather was like, we got a 30% chance of it being hot. As a mother, it would always be.

Theo Von
Like, yeah, this is an adventure, bro. It might be raining bitches, y'all. Y'all stay woke. It was always like, the weirdest weather report on Q 93, man. Yeah.

Scrim
Little bounce beat going behind. Oh, yeah. It would always be something, bro. And b 97, that was another one they had. Before that, b 97 was more like top 40, but, like, because it was New Orleans, they also did, like, some hot boy shit.

And, like, what Mark involved. Kyle's dad was GM. Yes. Who's here. What you did.

Theo Von
Just so I notice, we can reference him. Yes. Our management, Kyle and Dana Holland. Yeah. Nice to see you guys, man.

Respect. As much as they try to stay behind the scenes, we always make sure they get seen. Yeah, well, y'all, so world is like that, man. Everything is what I'm saying. It just feels like it's, um.

Y'all. It feels indie. Yeah. Not in a bad way. It feels like.

It just feels like it's y'all's world. It is even. Just even that little thing right there. It's like a lot of people don't have their man coming if they do. Yeah, they're in a suit or something.

And it's, you know, it just feels. Like family to us, bro. Everybody around us. We've been through so much with these guys. Yeah, us.

Ruby Da Cherry
Our four person team right here. Yeah. Like some people, like Will Smith was gonna. Come on, come on. But he had some issue.

Theo Von
What was. It was like a scheduling thing. He wanted a little more control over. Like, we do what's things where, like, we couldn't, like, just, you couldn't ask about it, you know? So it's almost like then you're just an advertisement for, like, the movie or something, you know, not want to ask.

Ruby Da Cherry
Like, talk about the slap, right? Yeah. Even you couldn't even ask. And I wouldn't have said, like, hey, what, do you hit a guy or something? I would be like, maybe what's been going on in your life that's been, that's been hectic for you?

Theo Von
You know, just talk about, like, what makes you feel like that? Yeah, I don't need to know. Like, the detail just seemed like he would be having a tough time, probably. Yeah. Unless something was going on between them guys.

But, um. But a lot of times too, it's the agents that'll say that shit. Mm hmm. And the artists or whatever don't have any clue. Yeah.

You know, it's just how they want to control and pot and prop. Now we all talk all the time. Everybody's on the same page, because a lot of things didn't happen because of communication being fucked up. And from all of us that we all have dropped the ball at some point a little bit with communication. So now, you know, the four of us, that is the most important thing is communication and trust.

Ruby Da Cherry
So any fucking relationship, like, doesn't matter if it's professional, romantic. It's hard to find people to trust, bro. It really. I have a lot of trust issues. I've been fucked over a lot in many ways, so I'm grateful that I have him.

Scrim
Yeah, it's my best cows, my best friend. We're all brothers now, but me and Kyle were best friends since high school. Shit out of that guy. Yeah. He helped washing bike tires off your shoes.

But, bro, we wouldn't. I mean, we were doing our thing, and they helped take us to another level. You know what I'm saying? It really is a thing. Only good things can only happen with a group effort.

Theo Von
It's definitely. Kanye said something not that long ago, man, where he's like, something, I'm gonna mess it up. But something to the effect of, like, nothing's a solo project. Nothing is a solo project. You know, like, nothing's a solo, to your point.

Scrim
You know what I'm saying? Like, it takes a team of people out. I believe that. And even then, the team of people to absorb it and listen to it and want to feel it. Yeah.

Theo Von
You know, because it's interesting that listeners of things, and even us, when we listen to stuff, we all. We get a whole different thing out of it than the creator gets, you know? Wild. Yeah. That's actually a good point, theo.

Ruby Da Cherry
And that's. I don't think that point gets brought up enough, either because the listeners, or the audience, rather, is just as an important part of what the fuck we do and what you do, you know, that doesn't get brought up a lot, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you could make.

Theo Von
You could be a good chef, but if nobody's enjoying, you know, nobody out there licking their lips or whatever, or putting a little bit in their napkin for the Doberman at home or whatever. Put some zatarans on it. Oh, we used to have a lunch lady, bro. She'd take everything, bro. You wouldn't even be done.

She'd be like, I'm gonna get this for my dog. I'd be like, I ain't even have. To have my crust back. I'm about to put a fur coat on. If I can hang out on your porch, then I'm fucking starving.

Cause she come take it off your plate before you even got to eat. That's too funny. But you guys love New Orleans. Are you guys featured in a lot of you guys videos and stuff? You know, it's obviously, like a part of your life that you.

So even if you haven't felt like, as much of a fan base here, you guys still have a lot of love for Louisiana. Yeah, I mean, dude, I think we both have a lot of love for just the Gulf coast in general. Just. This is the region we're from. We're comfortable here.

Scrim
Shaped who we are. Yeah. A lot of our personality, style, all of that. But, yeah, I mean, dude, New Orleans. And someone told us this early on, this is when.

So, basically, if I had a. If I can give you a visual presentation. We were trying to go like this, start local, build regional, go like that. And someone informed us. I'm grateful they did.

This is when Soundcloud started popping Internet rappers, like, you know, young, lean Bones, Zay, when he was either wolf, all that was popping off, and someone was like, you basically gotta attack the Internet because everybody here knows who you are. You know what I'm saying? Johnny. Johnny sees you at the gas station three times a week buying cigarettes. Like, ain't really buying what you're selling.

Whereas when you go through the Internet, and that's what we did, you know, we were. We were able to create this thing where we got popping and all these other places first, and it literally started from, like, Russia and then came back to New Orleans. New Orleans was the last place. Yeah. The advice was don't go local to international.

Ruby Da Cherry
Do the Internet and attack an international crowd first, because your hometown is gonna be the last place that fucks with you. And it's true, because don't fuck with us. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. But yells at yells.

Theo Von
It's. It's so interesting because there's a lot. There's a lot of New Orleans in it. There's a lot of New Orleans in it. You know.

Ruby Da Cherry
Dude, it shaped us, this. Me and him, bro, we, like, worshiped cash money. Yeah. We loved hot boys. We wanted to be Lil Wayne, like, a huge influence on both of us.

And I would argue that Master P is a huge inspiration to me and him, how that motherfucker started a label, had a rapping career, almost made it to the NBA, was putting his son in Nickelodeon shows. He was making movies. This motherfucker's a renaissance, man. Oh, he was one of the first kind of black. He was kind of an early Tyler Perry to everybody, especially from this area, you know?

He's, like, worth, like, 600 mil, bro. He was a huge inspiration to us. Somebody that could just achieve all that, and especially from being from Calio projects, you know, if we're not from the Calio projects, what's our excuse of not making it? You know what I mean? Right.

This guy went from literally rags to riches. Yeah. Big inspiration on us. Big reason to us, a big inspiration behind doing the label rather than just focusing solely on suicide. That's a good point.

That was a why we did g five nine. Yeah. Because of cash money and no limit. Yeah. And then what.

Theo Von
How do you get, like, is cheddar on g five nine? Yeah. Okay. And chatter night lava shake. Germ shake, Ramirez.

Ruby Da Cherry
Okay, we have five artists, six, including ourselves. Yeah. And so a lot of those guys will tour with you. I know Cheddar toured. The last tour that I saw, he was on 2021.

Theo Von
Yeah. So this year we're taking shake shake. Well, yeah, we try to switch it up. We are every tour, you know, and also set those guys up, but they do a great job of setting those guys up on their own tour, so they get their own shine. Yeah.

Scrim
I'm saying. Yeah. Cheddar just came out with an album. Yeah. What's it called?

Sacrifice and sabotage. Yeah, man. He's great, bro. He's a good dude, bro. I love him.

Theo Von
And he and I become pretty close. Yeah. He's a good dude. He's a hard worker. He is.

You got a big heart, bro. He's the only person besides me that I know that works. Oh, he's as much as I do, bro. He gets it in. We try to show the boys love, and we've taken them on grade A and stuff, but with.

Ruby Da Cherry
With the other artists on our label, we try to take them on tour, but also, like he said, set them up on their own tours, because it's important, bro. Anything in this world that you get through hard work is going to be yours to keep for a very long time. But anything that was handed to you that you got very easily, it's not gonna last very long, you know? So it's important that these guys grind, and we're behind them. We support them and push them to grind and make your own audience.

You can. You can borrow some of ours, but I don't want that for you because it's not gonna last long. I want you guys to have your fans that you earned, and I want it to be as big as it possibly can. Whatever we can do to do that, we will. Yeah.

I don't think the shortcut of, like, just giving it to you is gonna work. It's not gonna work. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of it.

Scrim
Inspiration. No, it won't. That's a good point, too. And a lot of it is, even if you're just all the artists, you're around each other, you inspire each other, you know? Yeah.

Theo Von
Like, you're like, oh, I'm learning from this beat or this thing or, like, oh, this is cool. Or, wow, look what he brought in. And that's, you know, it's definitely, like, you guys'own. It's almost your own galaxy or something, or your own, like, solar system y'all have going on. Yeah.

Thank you. Yeah, it's interesting, man. What, uh. So, yeah, what is gonna be different about the new music? What do you feel like if you had to be specific about it, bro.

Ruby Da Cherry
I think Scott agrees with me, but sometimes when we make albums or projects and we don't really, like.

I don't know how to explain this. There's been projects that we put out that we thought were great, and we wanted to do all these things for it, and, like, they were great projects, and they did their thing, and, like, they came and went, but there's been a couple where we didn't even think about it, and I don't know. I have this weird feeling that this album is gonna be huge. Yeah. And I'm not just saying that to promote it or whatever.

I'm not really one for self promotion, but we both have this weird feeling, like, it's like when we don't try, is what I'm trying to say. Oh, yeah, we don't try. We make a fucking masterpiece. Yeah. When we're trying too hard, we make, like, some try hard shit.

Yeah, sound is good. Try hard shit. That's such a good term, man. Yeah, it is good, cuz sometimes we'll. Work on a clip or something.

Theo Von
It's like after we kicked it, you can just tell, like, force it. Yes. We just try to shine this to or get it, you know, do something and then we mess it up. Oh, I was just gonna. You know, it gets like, we never wanted to be in a box.

Scrim
We said that from the beginning. We wanted to be able to make whatever we wanted to make at any time. But as you grow, as you grow a fan base in this community, they get act. They have expectations, you know, luckily, I feel like a lot of them have grown with us. There's still some of those out there that, that still.

Suicide boss was better in 2015. We went, blah, blah, blah. You were better when you were on drugs, whatever. But to his point, this is my favorite album. Same that.

You know, I feel like I say that a lot, but like Kyle always says, he's like, dude, y'all just get better and better and better. I don't understand it either. I'm 35 years old. I'm like, you know what I'm saying? I should be retiring soon.

But I do think one thing that has helped, you know, suicide boys sometimes can feel like a job because there's deadlines, there's like, we gotta get it done. There's expectations. I think one thing that has helped, like, release the valve a little bit and, like, let some of the pressure off. He's been doing duck boy, which is like his little going back to his roots and doing his band stuff, experimenting and being able to be free. And same with me, I've been able to experiment with some, some old, some sound solo wise.

And then when we do that, we, you know, I feel like we feel refreshed, we feel loose, and then when we come back to SB, you know what I'm saying? Like, actually excited. Yeah. You know, the pressure. Like, I don't know.

I don't know how to still feel. Like an individual, I think because there's something that I'm sure once you're in a group, that part of your the individuality, it's there, but it's. It's partnered with something. Yeah. So to be able to develop yourself more and then bring it to anything is probably pretty cool.

Yeah. And to still remind yourself that you can develop as an individual and. Absolutely. I bet that's. That's interesting.

Theo Von
Is there collabs and stuff on this? No, no, we never. We never really big on collabs. Right. You guys don't do a lot of it.

So is. Yeah, I was just wondering, is it. Is this something you guys ever think about, or do people reach out about it? We were supposed to do something with ski mask recently, but the thing is, dude, if you don't catch us, when you catch us, you're gonna be waiting another year. Right.

Ruby Da Cherry
Because we move quick, and if you. If you pass it up, then, like, bro, we can't rewind and go back. We still. We have a lot of shit on our own. On our own plates that we have to get done.

Scrim
So that is the hardest part about how it happens, is, like, getting it back in time, you know, I'm saying, like, getting it done. I think it's best whenever we, like. Whenever we do joint projects like we did with Germ Shakewell, when we all get in a room together and we're able to just, like, pound it out for a week or two, and we. Just lock ourselves in the room for a week and knock it. Yeah.

Theo Von
I love listening to sequel, dude, Shake was very talented. Fuck. And he's so entertaining, bro. Yeah, bro. Yeah.

Was I watching that? He was in that movie. You and him were in that movie, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was thinking about that yesterday.

Oh, we hung out together for, like, probably two weeks. Solid fucking dude right there. So nice. And just so, like, I love how excited he gets when he, like, gets kind of some information. He's kind of telling you something.

Scrim
Yeah. You know, like, it's, uh. He gets that look in his eye. Yeah, yeah, it's cool. He's just such a warm guy.

Yeah. And very talented. So talented, man. I watched they have that video. I think it's with Pooya.

Theo Von
It's like, one. They. It's all shot in one. Rubs. Yeah.

Ruby Da Cherry
That was really. Shake was, like, kind of coming out to the world right there was. That's, like, his. It's old scrub since day one. The best.

Theo Von
There's a comment on it, too. It's like, imagine you just going in to pay for gas, and you get stuck behind this. A rap video. That's funny. But it was great, man.

They did. All you want is 20 on palm four. And the dudes ahead of you making rabbit put that credit card out. Well, yeah, man, when he gets those braids, he's got that Native American look in him a little bit, because then he's part Mexican, isn't he? Half Mexican?

Scrim
Yeah. Fucking. He has that id factor to him. You know what I'm like. You can have all the talent in the world, but it's.

You got to have that it factor. Shake, you can tell it just comes naturally to him. Yes. Shake had a background in the hardcore world, playing bass in that band betrayal and shit that, like, metal rock hardcore shit. So he had experience in music and playing shows, and I met him.

Ruby Da Cherry
We both met him when we went to LA for the very first time. We go to fat Nick and Krez's crib. There's, like, within, I don't know, a couple hours. It's. It's a party all of a sudden, like.

And in LA, I think they just kind of happens. Like, there's no plans. Yeah. So we must have met 30 fucking people that night. I don't remember a single one of them until I shake well was one that was consistent.

Like, consistently hanging around pooya and stuff. And then we. Oh, you make music, too. And when people tell you that and you, like, have a little success with music, you kind of. You don't really know where the boundary is.

Like, are they gonna want me to listen to it? And, like, am I gonna like it? Yeah. But his shit was fire, and, you know, we kept our eye on him for a long time. Did you guys ever tour in any of the same circles as guys like Mac Miller?

Theo Von
Little peep. Those guys. So fucking weird that you bring that up. We were just talking about this yesterday. We did a festival once in Sweden called Bravala back in 2017.

Ruby Da Cherry
Our first european run. And that festival is not a festival anymore because too many dudes were groping chicks, like, sexual assault style. Yeah, watch it, guys. We actually had to cut the show short a couple times to tell them back up. Trying to grab.

Anyway, Mac Miller was at this festival, and that was the first time we met him and kind of kicked with him a little bit. We also met Linkin park that day, too. Met Chester and Mike, and Chester committed suicide a month after that. It was insane. That's why Lee.

Theo Von
Lee was dope, huh? Yeah, he's a cool guy. He's a guy, bro. Imagine me, right? Like, nobody fucks with us.

Scrim
And I'm walking and I hear, hey, scram. And like, that high pitched voice. I turn around, swae Lee. So I'm just, you know, in that moment, what the fuck is going on? It's pretty surreal.

Yeah, it was one of those moments, meeting all them people. I'm like, bro, what the fuck is. We don't. We don't get the nod from a lot of industry artists or artists in the industry, rather. We're always curious, but some of it you.

Theo Von
That you enjoy that, right? Like, it's probably. Probably good you're doing our own. I still work every day. Like, I'm broke.

Yeah. I'm in the studio every day. I got this, like, I got this chip on my shoulder that I. I can't get off. I think that's part of it.

Ruby Da Cherry
What do you think that has to do with sobriety being a little bit? I think 100%, because I got, like. That, dude, I would wake up at 01:00 p.m. on a Wednesday. Like, it was nothing.

I didn't give a shit. And now I can't sleep late. If I'm not cleaning the house or doing something productive. I feel like a fucking shit. Good point.

Sobriety is a big good point. I think I fell in love with my work. You know, I don't have a wife or nothing yet or anything, but I think my first love is my work. It's like. And I remember back to relationships I was in.

Theo Von
I would get home with my girl, we'd have gone and done something like. And then next thing I know, I always remember, I'm on my computer, I'm doing something. Yeah. And she's, like, waiting to watch a show together, watch a movie, or make some popcorn. And then after a while, she's gone.

Scrim
Yeah. I've been in a relationship now almost four years, and it's to your point, she was like, she respects it. You know, she knows how I am. She knows how I work. She respects it.

Ruby Da Cherry
I can see how it would get frustrating from the female point of view. She was like, can you at least just start taking the weekends off and hanging out with me? And I was like, yeah, you got a point. I can do that. Recently, I had to start, like, cutting off work at, like, 06:00.

07:00 for the west coast, because it. With this job, whatever you want to call it, there's no hours. It's not a nine to five. Things can pop up at 01:00 a.m. things could pop up any day of the week, and you don't know when or where it's coming from.

So I kind of, for myself, had to set something up to where it's like, after six, it can wait till the fucking morning unless it's an emergency. I had to put that limit on. Myself, like, yeah, yeah. You don't realize. Yeah.

Theo Von
You kind of just start to think, oh, I just have to work. But it's not really true. It's your own choice. Then you wonder, why am I going fucking crazy? Oh, because I have too much shit on my plate.

Ruby Da Cherry
I'm trying to do too many things at once. And again, I would attribute that to sobriety. Yeah, but all you guys's stuff is very hands on. It's like, even all your merch, the way it looks, it's like. Yet all, like, just like the fonts.

Theo Von
It's all very specific to you guys. World. Our merch, available next week. You're seeing two exclusive pieces. Really?

I want. This is from the album. I'll give you this one when I leave. Yeah. Crazy.

Ruby Da Cherry
I got an extra. I got a shirt in the car. Too, if you want. Yeah. What size you were?

Theo Von
Probably larger. Xl. High m to xl. Okay. It's a high m.

Ruby Da Cherry
Yeah. A medium mother large. It's a big medium. So what's the fuck's a big medium? Kind of like a Toledo medium.

Theo Von
Okay. I heard a schmedium. I never heard of a big medium.

But never let me get them big mediums, dude. I remember one time, bro, we used to make shirts before the Saints games, right? So it was like, we would get them print. Oh, my sister had made love to some dude or whatever, and that shit fell apart and he left in the. In the settlement or whatever, she got like 350 black t shirts, right?

Scrim
Yeah. What? Yeah. Like what? Large ones.

Theo Von
So let's just, you know, double xls, you know, I'm saying, fucking those brothers. I rock it. Yeah, brother. He's got fountain blue debut. Yeah, I still rock it like that.

Yeah, that fountain blue. Like a fountain blue homecoming dress. Yeah. For men or women. That's what she got in a settlement.

Yeah. That's pretty wild. She got 300 and ambitions, so. And she and I were living together off a clavering. So we're like, damn, bro, we got to make some fucking money, you know?

And so we got some saint shirts printed up. And, like, with the saints shit on us, it was illegal. We couldn't have it. Leg. Oh, yeah.

So we're walking before the Saints games just with ice chests and shit. I quit comedy for this about. For about maybe nine months. And we're walking and trying to sell them bitches. And some dude, angry dude, came up and tried to order a couple big mediums.

Ruby Da Cherry
Big mediums. That's what he said. Yeah, we tried to help him, bro, but he wasn't willing to negotiate his perspective of a medium. Right, right. Can I put a m in front of this?

Scrim
L. Yeah, yeah, he was. Yeah, he was negotiating from a real unique medium. What a guy. I'd like to meet him.

Theo Von
My girlfriend would walk around. I know. She was so embarrassed. Not embarrassed. She was supportive, but she was like, this dude's got to get a fucking job.

Scrim
Sound like my dad when we were. When we were early on. Yeah. He's like, you running up my fucking ac bill. You running up.

Oh, yeah, dude, when this shit's gonna work, you need to go get a fucking job. About music, you mean? Yeah, this is. We were, like, in the studio. The studio we had was a little one of those, you know, them sheds you can buy at Home Depot and, like, set up.

Theo Von
It was, like, back around with the plywood one styles. This is like, what's the fake plywood? Plywood paneling, whatever. Yeah, something like that. Plastic.

Scrim
My mom did hair in there, and then, you know, she quit doing it. We. We turned it into a studio. So I was living there on the couch. We were working in there.

He'd come up, like, three, four days out the week and sleep. Everything before I want to die was made in there. Yeah, everything. Yeah, even some. I want to die was some of it.

Yeah, some of them made King Tulip. That place is legendary. But, yeah, he was bitching at me, bro. He's like, bro, you gotta. You gotta go get some fucking money, dude.

Cause you running my shit up. You got people eating my fucking pantry out and shit. Oh, yeah, bro. Well, you know how coming from here, bro, they think of Hollywood. They think they're like, man, is it this fucking pilot?

Like, go to the shipyard, bro. Get a job. Go to the shipyard. Yeah, go through. My mom used to always tell us to get a paper route or whatever.

Yeah. I'm like, everybody goes missing in this neighborhood.

Theo Von
But, yeah, I'm trying to think of the job we would get, man. I would just work in my dad's restaurant. Oh, snowball stand, bro, how many families in New Orleans have fallen apart from a joint owned snowball? I don't know, bro. Someone should look into that.

Ruby Da Cherry
People down here take them things fucking seriously, bro. Depending on, like, the style of shaved ice it is, the quality of the syrup. People take that shit mad serious down here. Yeah, like, we get the syrup fresh from Italy. People saying all kind of bullshit.

Theo Von
Whatever. You'll have somebody out of state being like, oh, a snow cone. And people are like, uh uh, it's a snowball. Like, they have very defensive snowball. Brad.

Scrim
Yeah. Yeah, bro. Thomas Macaluso, who used to go to Jesuit. You ever remember him? Sounds so familiar.

Theo Von
He's make fake ids and he was always selling. That's a good new one's name, I think. Yeah, his brother's a cop. Fucking T Mac. He's the best, bro.

Ruby Da Cherry
Damn. I just. And he. Oh, he had a snowball stand and he opened up italian restaurant, bro. That's the holy Trinity right there.

Go ball stand. An italian restaurant. Oh, yeah. That also does po boys. Oh, for sure, bro.

Theo Von
You know, you can get a snow cone on french bread if you want, bro. Yeah, they do pickle juice in the snowballs. Like, that's a flavor. Yeah, it's a west bank thing. Yeah, pickle juice.

People do everything. Do. Bag shrimp on the side of the road. Strawberries. I can't tell you how many crawfish shells I see.

Ruby Da Cherry
Like, just scatter. I thought we were gonna do this chicken bone. This shit in the woods. Too hot. It was so hot.

Scrim
Yeah. To catch it. But we got the streetcar going by. This is a. Oh, yeah, this is good.

Theo Von
We should. We were in here last night for a couple hours. These guys were in here. The vibes are right. We wanted to make it nice for you guys, man.

Ruby Da Cherry
Yeah. So this tour, where will you guys go? Like, I know, like, you guys would go abroad and stuff like that, but, like, it. Are there new places you add or their hot pockets? You said Russia was one of the places that.

One of the first places we ever went. That's 20, 15, 16 from fucking Laplace to Russia, pretty much. We, like, brought my dad with us. Because he was our dj. He was our dj.

Not only that, but we didn't want to go to Russia Dolo because we were worried about, like, customs and do. We had really had no experience traveling. If y'all saw Russia immediately, I would put y'all, dude. Oh, dude. We all make one britney grind.

Scrim
It was sketch. I remember it was sketch. Two things. One, my dad ended up being the dj. And it was funny because we had Scott's MacBook.

Didn't we do this all for, like. Thousand bucks to the Russian? Shit was cheap. I think it was like that. Yeah.

Theo Von
How'd you even find out they were your fans? Somebody hit us up asking if we. He emailed us. He was a promoter in Russia asking if we wanted to come over there and play a few shows because we had a fan base out there. And we said, yeah, sure.

Ruby Da Cherry
And back then, the experience was cool enough. We didn't care about the money. That was just a bonus. So we went to Russia, did Minsk, Belarus, St. Petersburg and Moscow.

My dad's up there behind us. First of all, hottest fucking shows ever. And my dad's on the MacBook. And we taught him, like, this means press the space bar to stop the song. If we do this, that means slowly turn it down.

It's funny. He's sitting there with his glasses, like. And he was so nervous. Isn't he in his fifties? He's in his sixties now.

Scrim
He's, you know, late fifties back then. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that'll age you ten years standing. I could tell he was, like, nervous fucking.

Ruby Da Cherry
I felt bad. Where was it? Where they rushed the stage? That was. Bro.

Scrim
So we're in Minsk. If they rush the stage, hit the space. Last song. Last song. They just.

They literally. The whole crowd runs up. Minsk on the stage. I look back, I see. I see Uncle Pablo's.

I see his dad just sitting there, like, surrounded by people. He's flipping the fuck out. I, like, turn it down. Or his face. It looked like he was floating, like they were carrying him.

You know? That was the youngest show we've ever played. All those kids, like, 1213. Yeah. Yeah, it was.

Wow. Minsk was interesting. I never even heard of Minsk. It's just right outside Russia. Just the fact that you're even saying that, to think that you could make something right, that you could make something on the fucking west bank, that you can make something in a parish just in a small town.

Theo Von
Louisiana. And then there's people in Minsk. Russia. It's crazy. It trips me.

Ruby Da Cherry
Honestly. It's crazy. Does. It's unreal, man. Yeah.

Scrim
And this year, we went. We went. We went back to Australia, New Zealand. Been like, oh, is that. Is that it?

Holy shit, bro. Holy shit. 13. Oh, 516. While they have 13 months.

Theo Von
There. There. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah.

Scrim
What the. Oh, no. They put their days before the month. I remember after this show. This is Myskir.

Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him by the DJ in the back. Yeah.

Ruby Da Cherry
That's my dad. Fucking DJ. Focused. Focus. DJ.

Theo Von
Uncle P. He's like, down space. Park down. He was a nervous wreck. Oh, he ain't moving, bro.

You got funny. Look like a statue, bro. He's like, when you're driving with two foot on each pedal. Yeah, dude, that is so funny, that, bro, this. Shout out, Uncle P.

Ruby Da Cherry
I think I fell off stage. No, that was Moscow. I fell off stage in this Russian. This big ass russian bodyguard ball, dude. Fucking dead eyes.

Just this most. The smoothest thing. My leg fell. Falls off. I fall off stage.

And he just, like, threw me back on stage. I was like, whoa. That was crazy. It's wild over there. They'll have children playing with dolls that are made out of stone and shit.

Theo Von
Those kids are tough. Yeah.

Ruby Da Cherry
It's a harsh country. You know, I respect Russians, bro. Those people, they get shit done, brother. Nuts. They drank vodka and eat.

Scrim
What's that shit? Pussy. Borscht. Borscht. Caviar.

Ruby Da Cherry
Some of the best sushis in Moscow. Really? Mm hmm. Delicious. I wouldn't say go out there.

Scrim
I wouldn't. Yeah, I don't. I might go to Metairie to get some.

Theo Von
What was the place y'all would go eat at and stuff? Did y'all ever, when your family would go out to eat when you were kids, was there a spot your family would go, that was kind of a nice place? No. Pizza hut. Pizza.

When you could sit down. Yeah, when it was. You remember that? When it was like. It had that.

Scrim
Had that aura to it. You know what I'm saying? That aesthetic. Not anymore. Yeah.

Ruby Da Cherry
We really ever went out as a family. Yeah. We didn't either. Our biggest. Yeah.

Theo Von
Yeah. That was so nice. Now it's like a trap house for Ragu. Dude, until. Until this, I didn't see past Biloxi.

Scrim
Biloxi was like maybe Pensacola. Oh, dude, I was growing up, bro. If somebody went every summer. Florida, bro. Oh, yeah.

Theo Von
Thought they was a fucking richest guy. That's like the. Yeah, like, we're going to Pensacola. Yeah. You'd see somebody at a t shirt, set Florida on this motherfucker.

Yeah, look at this. A connection. Yeah, look at this Republican doing it. There's a lot of Louisiana people in Florida. You know, it must be the Gulf Coast.

Ruby Da Cherry
I don't know. It's just so close, but there's so many. I won't say where, but we're on the panhandle and it's. Yeah, it's. It's a lot of Louisiana transplants.

Comments? Well, Louisiana was what some of the first people outside of Florida realized, what a great spot destin was, too. Some brave people. I don't even know who it was. Like in, like, the eighties, no police, no roads, no nothing.

Scrim
And people lived out there. And let's say they bought a house back then for thirty k. I mean, they're selling for like 10 million now. It's not crazy. The place is hot right now.

Theo Von
Bought one, bro. Who? Anyway. Anyway, we should have. Stupid.

Ruby Da Cherry
Well, it's funny because you said about the Florida thing, I think it was like a. Your family from Louisiana goes to Florida for summer vacation. If you went to Pensacola, you guys were well off. But if you went to Destin. Oh, shit, with damn royalty.

Yeah, yeah. I don't. I didn't know people that went to Destin. Yeah, your dad, your stepdad must owned a subway. We had a girl in Coventry that owned a subway and they'd always go to dust.

Yeah, step that owned a KMB or. Whatever those motherfuckers did. I got a blowjob from Jared from subway sister one time and. Shut the fuck up. Was it five?

Theo Von
Huh? Was it five? Were you like eight? I mean, I. I was.

No, I would say I was probably about five. No. Cause he's a pedo, you know, ran in the family or what? I mean, I had a pretty small wiener at the time, but I was young, you know? Yeah.

Four inch round on me. They discontinued it. Yeah.

Bread. They used to have that four inch round, bro. They got rid of that. Somebody's always like, trying new things and getting rid of them. Oh, yes.

Scrim
Was that before the controversy with her brother? That was, let me see, 2020. Oh, 2000, 02:00 a.m. that was way before the controversy. 2002 to 2006.

Theo Von
Somewhere in there. That's like right when Jared first started. Like being Jared, but. Yeah. Was it fire?

I don't know. I wouldn't say all of that much of it. It was in the quarters late, it was indoors. It was just something to do. Yeah, well, it was.

Yeah, we just. It was toasted. It was a crazy. No, it was toasted. You get a drinking chips with it?

I got a drink of chips. Some Miss Vicky's.

Ruby Da Cherry
That's a subway hack. You got to buy a bag of salt and vinegar miss Vicky's and put it on the sandwich. That's the hack. I never done that. A little crunch in there.

Theo Von
Trying to think if I got a good hat. I got nothing, man. I got nothing. I can't believe you got blown by Jared sister. That's insane.

Sorry to tell you all that, too. I just know that's crazy. I forget about it and then I'm in New Orleans. I'm more. Oh, dude, one time I went and saw hot fly like paper get high, like.

Yeah, I went and saw her at. She blew you too. No, no. I it would have probably been neat, but she. I saw the guy from step brothers there at the concert.

Ruby Da Cherry
John C. Reilly. Yeah. No. Huh.

Theo Von
It was, like, 04:00 a.m. she finally went on. That's crazy. Yeah. House of blues or some shoot.

It was over on a warehouse district. Knowing a frenchman. Okay. Trying to think of another good show. Oh, the first whoever went to was at Rendon Inn.

I don't know if you guys remember. It was an old restaurant they have. And Marilyn Manson played. Damn, the nineties. Yeah, late nineties.

Yeah, we went to there, dude. And it was crazy. The biggest, the craziest New Orleans venue was like, I think it's called the warehouse. Yeah. And all the dads love talking about the warehouse.

Ruby Da Cherry
They saw the Beatles and David Bowie and all this crazy shit, but that place never. Oh, yeah. My friend did a documentary on it for us. Oh, really? Yeah.

Theo Von
I'm what's his name played riders on the stone. Jim Morrison. I think he played his last show there. They said, wow, that's pretty crazy. My friend Jesse Williamson did a documentary called the Warehouse.

Yeah. They had a lot of artists go through there. That was, like, the spot, like, back in the day, if you were. Where was that teenager in the world? It's like, a little outside, like, by river road where, like, uptown becomes Jefferson.

Scrim
Oh, okay. That's where I think it was. Yeah, right? I think so. There might have been more into the uptown area.

How's that Nick treating you? It's pretty good. You like the flavor? They're hit and miss, bro, but it's. Hit and miss sometimes.

Theo Von
You don't know vapes. If you buy them, if they getting them, if they remaking them bitches, you'll smell like a dude. You'll just be like. It's just like the guy's breath at the counter, like this motherfucker. Australia was tough with the vapes.

Scrim
Oh, yeah. The first time we went, no, five years ago when we went, they only had 1% nicotine. That was kind of a bitch. Really? Yeah.

Ruby Da Cherry
Then this last time, I need that five. All the ones that we bought were all these crazy flavors, and we're, like, coughing up all this shit. I'm like, bro, these vapes are not okay. That's why I like these. Yeah, this is super light.

Theo Von
I don't actually feel, like, out of commission or nothing, like, too heavy. The early Escobars, bro, is too much. I was doing those on rogue sick, bro. Oh, I was falling apart. I couldn't sleep, bro.

I couldn't look at my mother. Yeah, this is a warehouse on chapatula. So that's where it was. But, yeah, that's. My buddy Jesse made this document.

It's so crazy. You said that place. Yeah. Where did you guys go watch some type of music? Like, was there someplace, a venue that you guys went to when you were young?

What was your first show? Did that way more than I did. I mean, the first show I ever went to was when I was nine. My parents bought me nsync tickets. That was the first I was like, when I was a kid.

But you've changed. I've changed as far as, like, my. First one was Britney Spears. Really? Oh, my.

Ruby Da Cherry
Look at that. I think she's a Louisiana local chain. I'm gonna say 100%, y'all. My parents thought they snap by getting me tickets to Britney. Me and my dad went, it was weird.

You and senior with Spears? Yeah, brother. If you knew his dad, you'd be like, what the fuck? I was like eight years old. They thought they hated every second of that.

Scrim
Yeah, they thought they. And they did snap. They did. They did. I did.

Ruby Da Cherry
I did go to, like, shows when I was a teenager, being in bands and stuff. I lived in Fat City, so they had Cypress hall right down the street from the police station on Hestmer. And they had the Lions home. They used to do shows at by the Burger King on the vision and Metairie. They had a few.

New Orleans was good with the all ages stuff. They had, like, places for teenagers to go. Me and my friends bands would put on shows and play and, you know, 100 kids would show up just to have something to do. And then they started. After Katrina, a lot of those places closed down.

And then it became like, you know, mostly bars and house of Blues. But there was a lot of. I was very involved in the music scene when I was younger down here. The hot boy. Yeah, when the hot boys were running around, there was so much going on, bro.

Theo Von
New Orleans always been a fun place. Oh, yeah. I was more on the north shore around that time. That's when me and you didn't really speak. Yeah, I was all the high school.

Ruby Da Cherry
I mean, he and I didn't. We didn't hate each other anything. We're just growing up separately at that point. Yeah. Yeah.

Theo Von
They had a band from North Shore, sis. Eight candles or something. No, they had one that got stones. Yeah, that's it. They do used to, like, babysit Kyle or some shit.

Ruby Da Cherry
The singer or whatever. Something like, are you. You grew up. You grew up next door to that guy from twelve stones. The singer, you nice guy.

Theo Von
I went to high school. What's your name? Paul McCoy. Let's look him up, bro. I heard a story about that guy that, you know, he's on that song, the Evanescence song.

Ruby Da Cherry
Yeah, wake me up. That song. I heard that they offered him a piece of the song royalties or like just flat out ten grand. And he took the ten grand. Wow.

60 grand. Still, that songs weight made way more than 60 grand. But he bought a Lexus, bro. He bought a Lexus. That's the thing.

Yeah, he bought a PT cruiser. Dude. My boy, Gabe hall. See if you can look up a Gabe hall cemetery on YouTube. Is Gabe hall cemetery rapper?

Scrim
He's still rapping now. Or there's some old stuff. Some old shit, bro. Cemetery rapper. Oh, you gonna have to go deep for this.

Ruby Da Cherry
You ever chill in the cemeteries? Being from Louisiana or. No, no. Is that more like a New Orleans? I think it is time at Halloween, people would go do stuff over there.

Theo Von
Every in our town, people would dig one up every now and. Really? Yeah, this is him right here, bro. My boy, Curly Q. He used to make these videos, bro.

Scrim
Let's go. This is the real shit. You love this.

Wow.

Theo Von
This is the kind of shit that makes me want to fucking lay. Lay on my back with no shirt on. Oh, let's go with a misfit shirt.

Scrim
Wow.

Ruby Da Cherry
He just sat on that mausoleum like nobody's business. He's sitting on somebody chest. I want his confidence, you know? I'm saying it's inspiring.

The arm movements. Fucking right.

Theo Von
You can be bored with the fucking doe.

There is this. Do you know.

Scrim
How you notice, dude. Why are Louisiana people so not self aware? Wish I had this confidence. Me too, bro. Look how we did.

Theo Von
Pull up the second when he's got another. Always on a front. Should be right next to him. Dab, bro. This is hard.

He fucking goes hard with it. Right there next to a game. How you know? Dude grew up with a man. Dude.

Ruby Da Cherry
Oh, no shit. So you knew this? Oh, yeah, he had a trap house. Fucking right.

Scrim
Every white person I know in Louisiana. Smoke cigarettes 100%, bro. They'll smoke them through their nose if their mouth is missing. Part of the culture. They don't give a fuck, bro.

Theo Von
If your mouth missing smoking through their. Yeah, but dude, the best is his girlfriend's filming this and she keeps stepping on briars in the grass and yelling at him. Nah, but on what? Like little briars that are in the grass? Anyway, shout out to my boy, gay, man, that shit was.

I never thought about that, but it's crazy to see the thing that people do to put their creativity out there. I love it. Everybody's got something, man. That's some Louisiana shit, bro. You're not going to see that in any other state.

Ruby Da Cherry
That's Louisiana shit. Yeah, yeah. It's just saying it's a different kind of swag right there, bro. Yeah. Gabe's a g.

Theo Von
Um, what other. Was there anything else in the news we wanted to look at? I can't remember if anything else happened. You ever seen the video of them testing, testing the vapes in China? Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. But I'm Chinamen, bro. They got a different type of longs, bro. Oh, yeah. Ooh, okay.

Scrim
Yeah. Good thing I still smoke. Somebody gotta do it. I'm glad I still smoke jewel pods. Fuck.

Theo Von
That's a l four. I'll be honored to share their fucking DNA, brother. I don't care. They hard working, bro. Yeah.

Oh, they hitting him a little too hard, though. I do. That guy's home for it. This little dude breastfeeding, bro. Bro, you like a damn hummingbird.

Scrim
Why say exposed on it? I just some bad. Because they. Bro, what are you talking about, man? This is fucking breastfeeding in Laplace.

Bro. Suicide boys, man. I'm so excited, bro. I'm so excited just to see. And I think you guys are just such a place of inspiration for people, you know, even just talking with you guys today to see you create your own world, you know?

Theo Von
And then it doesn't have to be something that mainstream accepts or even. Sometimes even sees whether they do see it or not, if, you know, but they don't claim to. It's the same thing with podcasting. Kind of like, they rarely ever reference podcast. It's like.

But that's because they're not involved in it. Yeah, their shit. And that's okay. Yeah, yeah. But you guys just have such a loyal fan base.

What are your fans like, do you think? Man? Because that. That's one of the things to. That's so intriguing about you guys, to me is y'all's fans are.

It's just different, man. We've actually. We've developed relationships with some of our biggest ones and actually brought them in the fold to, like, help us out. Yeah, certain stuff. I mean, dude, this is when they.

Scrim
When they tell you, when they're like, dude, you saved my life. You did this. You did that. I mean, it's hard to hear 100%, bro. The process.

Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't my intention, but at the same time, and this is. This might be more like a spiritual recovery tip. Ever since getting sober, I feel like I have this responsibility to let these people know that have seen us at our worst, know that, because I never thought there was a way out. I really didn't. I was like, I'm fucked.

This is it. It's just what it is. But to let them know that there is a way out. And if, yeah, there's hope. Don't ever give up.

Like, if me and him can do it, bro, we can get drugs delivered on speed dial in the mailbox. But if me and him can do it, there's hope for them, too. And we used to. We used to when we could, after every show, we would take time out and meet with all the fans afterwards. We never liked charging them for meet and greets and stuff like that.

Like, oh, someone got more money than this person, so they get to meet us. I know we didn't really like that, but now, unfortunately, it's gotten too big to where we can't do. It's hard sometimes. It's true. The venues won't let you stay.

Theo Von
There's the things that happen. We try to meet in the lobby shows. How do you look at it? We've been doing this for a long time when we were on tour, bro. It's not like it's.

Ruby Da Cherry
It's work, dude. It's hard. It's. It's. You gotta be on point every night.

You know, any little thing you can do. If you smoke a blunt afterwards, it could fuck up your throat. Like, there's a lot of stuff that you gotta keep in mind. And sometimes, dude, you know, not every show is good, and not every day on tour is fun. There's times where, like, we might be going through it, and we have to take some time for ourselves and.

Sorry. Like, I know it sucks that we can't meet you this particular night, but, you know, I need to, like, kind of decompress a little bit. So. Yeah, you got to make sure the show is good for the next night. I mean, that's the most important thing.

Theo Von
Torn is hard. It's hectic. Oh, yeah. And, yeah, you people don't realize you want to be as good as you can be for every show you just did, you know? But now we do.

Scrim
We. We love and care about them. And even if some of them are still using you, there's. No. No.

Because you know why? I. We get it. Right? I get it, bro.

I get it, dog. And some. Most. A lot of people can party and they can do it. I tell them that, like, whenever I talk to everybody at the end of the night, I feel like it's important to say that, like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, if none of this applies to you, like, keep doing what you're doing. Fuck. If you can have a good time and do and. Right, like, my hats off to you, bro. You win.

Yeah, you got it. You got it. But, you know, I don't know. We've. That speech that started at the end real quick, that started from me.

It was. We just got back to doing shows. We were at lollapalooza right after Covid. Um, I was feeling all self pity and feeling bad for myself and all this, so I was. I was given this sappy, like, poor pity me at the end of the.

At the end of the show that we did a lollapalooza, but it just somehow it turned into something else. Inspirational speech into what it is. And, I mean, dude, one of the guys that works for us, he, like, helps us run our social media accounts, and he works with us on tour doing merch. You know, we met this kid as a fan. It's our boy six.

Ruby Da Cherry
Yeah, we met him as a fan because he created the records Twitter. And this was so early that Scott and I hadn't even gotten around to making our own fucking Twitter. We had fans. We had, like, a few thousand fans, whatever. But he was super in tune with underground music, and he knew about us and loved us, and we messaged him being like, yo, can we have that account?

Like, what? You know, it's our name. He's like, yeah, I was just making it so nobody else would. You can have it. We're like, okay, cool.

And then a few months later, we're actually going to do a little Texas tour, doing Houston, Dallas, a few shows, and he's there and he's in Dallas. And he was like, we're like, dude, come meet up with us. Whatever. He also could get us drugs. Yeah.

Some Percocet, some Xanax, some weed, whatever. We met him and we realized we like this kid, and we're like, you know what? You took the initiative. That's yours. And that's how he became the guy who, like, runs our social media, is through that.

Scrim
Yeah. And that was, you know, back in 2014, 2015. Yeah. And, like, to answer your question, that was a fan who is now part of our team. Yeah, I lived with him for two years.

Ruby Da Cherry
Like, he's like a family member. Damn. Yeah. Yeah, man. Well, that's how I met Nick, one of our early producers.

Theo Von
He mailed and just said, hey, man, I like the podcast. And. And. And I think I can help, you know, that's how there's this kid named Aid, and he showed up at a show in Buffalo, right? And shook my hand in the parking lot.

Scrim
Yeah. And he's like, hey, I can be your photographer tonight. And I was like, all right, photographer? Yeah, come on in, bro. So fast forward, the show starts, I'm out there.

Theo Von
An hour later, I see this dude just walking up by the side of the stage, bro, with his cell phone. Let's go. What the fuck, dude? So the whole time, bro, he got fucking just, like, laying on his back and shit on the floor. Just unbelievable, dude.

I respect the initial so much, man. But fast forward two years later, he's at the show with his family. He's got cameras now, and he's a real agrapher. No shit. So it's just like, hey, at least.

Ruby Da Cherry
He was fucking grinding with what he had, Brian. He just kind of caught you at the right time. I was walking in, coming up the little tour bus, and it was just like, you know, hey, what's up, man? I can be a photographer and you kind of respect, you know, sometimes things gotta catch you in the right moment. Yeah, yeah.

Theo Von
Somebody that can see your twitter and see that you have a capability before you can even see it sometimes. That's actually crazy, man. The equipment doesn't give you drive or talent, dude. All of our videos shot with an. Iphone, and I just edited it.

Ruby Da Cherry
On final cut, he was using garageband to make the beats, you know, free. Program that comes with. I downloaded Photoshop. I illegally. I illegally pirated Photoshop and cracked it.

And the only languages available for Photoshop were Spanish and Hebrew. And I chose Spanish because I took Spanish in high school. So I learned Photoshop all in Spanish, just, like, figuring it the fuck out. So I didn't shell out all this money, I learned it myself. Because if you have the drive and you have the talent, the equipment does not matter.

Scrim
We got golden platinum records that were done on that. That free platform that comes when you buy a Mac. That's the whole reason I bought it, was because it was free. Some of our biggest songs are royalty free samples. Yeah.

Ruby Da Cherry
Anybody has access to. Yeah, yeah, it's. It really is, man. It's inspiring, dude. I feel so lucky to have gotten to do this today, man.

Scrim
I really do. I'm glad that we've, you know, we met I remember when you showed up at the. I hope. I hope I'm not. Yeah, yeah.

Theo Von
Oh, yeah. It was cool. And when you showed up, and I, you know, I was. I know how that is, and I didn't want to go up to you, you know what I'm saying? Cause I know what it's like to be in the meeting and, like, just kind of sacred.

I was like, this guy's not doing well.

We lucky to have this dude.

Scrim
So I. We didn't talk that night, and then when I left, I sent them a message on Instagram. He called me. He's like, bro, you know, is in my fucking meeting. He was stoked.

Ruby Da Cherry
I was stoked, too, that he met you. Yeah. That's cool, man. Yeah, I think I met Cheta first. Did you?

Theo Von
Yeah, I think I did. I don't remember how, but, um. But he's just been such a great guy to get to know, man. And. Yeah, dude, it's inspiring, man.

I'm glad, you know, you keep people alive, and I know you have, you know, guys that you support in those rooms, and it ain't me, bro. I wish I could take the credit. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

I'm glad we got a higher power that's trying to help. That's helping us help ourselves. Yeah. From flooring to ceiling, bro. From flooring to who knows what heights, man.

Thank you guys so much just for the inspiration, man. I think to so many young artists and people that if you're sitting somewhere thinking, can I do this? Or how do I do this? I mean, this, you know, it's unreal. Just do it.

Yeah, that's literally it. Just fucking do it. That's the advice I always give is, you know, how did you. What did you do to get here? And whatever.

Ruby Da Cherry
Persistence, consistency, fucking drive, dude. And just taking that first step is the biggest step because you know what? You may think you want to be a fucking rapper or whatever, but you might actually go to do and realize, I don't want to do this. This sucks. And you're not gonna know unless you take that first step.

Theo Von
Right. And then I'll lead you to the next thing. That's exactly, exactly. Miss the next thing because you don't go to the first thing. Yeah.

Ruby Da Cherry
And it's all. It's all timings, all chess game. Just don't overthink it. Just do the damn thing, and everything will start to fall in place at some point if it's supposed to. Yeah.

The new album, new world Depression, June. 14, baby, drag him to the river. Sided put your body in check, y'all. What was that song? I can't put your rope around the neck.

Theo Von
He's a badass yellow boy.

Scrim
Oh, man. Who? Unlv? I'm from that. Unlv.

Yeah, I couldn't think of it. Where were they from? Here? Uptown, I think. Were they from here?

Ruby Da Cherry
Yeah, they're from New Orleans for sure. We sampled them on that, on the album. It was up drowned to the river, living violently, y'all did? Yeah. I can't wait.

Scrim
You gonna love it. Yeah, dude, that's exciting, man. Ruby scrim. Thank you guys so much, man. Best of luck on tour.

Theo Von
And shout out Tyrell Shaw for this beautiful art, man, for letting us sit in the back here. That might be Louie Armstrong, man. I don't know. It's a saxophone, so it might not be, but it's a jazz player. Either way, he's got a studio right over here on, I think this is child Patula on the line on Corona let.

Yeah. So here we are, suicide boys. Thanks. Oh, yeah, gang. Sir.

Now I'm just falling on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone. Oh, but. When I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones but. It'S gonna take a little.

Scrim
It'S gonna take a little.

Theo Von
It'S gonna take a little.

Scrim
It'S gonna take a little.

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