E501 Red Clay Strays

Theo Von
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They're out of mobile, Alabama. They have a new album coming out in May, and they've been picking up some steam. I'm grateful to spend time today with Brandon Coleman and Andy Bishop from the red clay strays.

Andrew Bishop
I'll sit and tell you my story.

Theo Von
Shine on me and I will find. A song I've been singing almost.

Yeah, I guess Ben has that mustache. Some people can't grow certain facial hair. Oh, Brandon's a native man. Yeah, I can't really. I can grow mustache and a little bit of a goatee, but that's it.

Brandon Coleman
Everything else doesn't work, really. Why? What happened? You weren't scalped or something? Somebody wasn't.

Theo Von
How native are you? I think Brady's. I'm like, Cherokee. So doing the scalping? Yeah, we were doing the scalping.

Then you'd think you'd have a little extra collection. You would think so? Like, if my grandmother would have passed them down or something, you know? But, yeah, she never did any of that. Wow.

And so was your grandmother. Did she seem kind of native? Like, did she have a kind of a vibe like that? A little bit. It was really my great great grandmother.

Brandon Coleman
I have an old black and white photo of her somewhere. That's. She's just straight up Cherokee Indian. Wow. That's like straight out of red dead redemption, too, you know?

Theo Von
Yeah. Do you feel native sometimes? I don't think so. Like, if you get near, like. Like, I wonder if you hear stuff different than like, a regular non native person hears.

Andrew Bishop
I'll speak on. I think Brandon gets a little frisky when, like a. Like a. Like a rainstorm's coming in, you know? Yeah.

Him and his brother, we take. His brother's on the road with us, too, our videographer, so. Yeah, I met him one time when I met you guys. He can actually throat sing pretty good, too. Yeah, he does it as a joke.

Brandon Coleman
And everybody's like, you can't do that. But he's like, I'm native. I can do that if I want to. What? He'll start.

Andrew Bishop
Really get into it. See, you can do it, too. Watch out. That's powerful, man. Yeah.

Theo Von
One time I was up in Minnesota, like in Minnetonka, Minnesota, and I went to. They had a. What's it called? Like a big get together that natives have. Pow wow.

Brandon Coleman
Every time I've heard the word powwow, it just meant backing trucks up to a campfire and drinking whiskey all night. Yeah, but that sounds pretty native to me, too. Yeah. You know, cooking meat. Throw a little gambling in there, too.

Theo Von
Yeah. Powwow is a gathering with dances held by many Native Americans and First nations communities, I'd say. So that's it. Ben was right. Yeah, Ben was right.

I didn't sleep that great. You guys have that ever? Oh, dude, all the time. I don't. I don't think we sleep good till we go home.

Brandon Coleman
Yeah, I don't sleep well going out on the road. It takes a couple days to get used to sleeping on a bus and then getting home. It takes a couple of days to get used to sleeping in your own bed again. Yeah. So that equals about no sleep.

Yeah. Yeah, it is kind of a. It's a real. You're always trying to get comfortable. Yeah, that's why we carry a lot of Z quill on the bus.

Theo Von
Yeah. So the first couple of nights, have you. You prevost it? You been in the tour buses? Yup.

Andrew Bishop
Those things are hard to sleep in for the first couple nights. For me. What. What part do you sleep in and what part do you choose to sleep in? Like, is there.

Theo Von
Because there's the different levels of the bunks. Yeah. So we're in a crew bus still, so we travel twelve deep. We got to crew everybody in one bus. So I'm the back middle?

Andrew Bishop
Yeah, yeah, I'm the. I'm the top bunk. We're looking for that second bus, but. Yeah, no, we have one bus when we go and it's. Everybody's in there they have a crew bus for, like, production.

Mm hmm. So they're in a separate bus. Ben's got some pictures. There you go. There's definitely different values to the different slots, I think.

Brandon Coleman
Yeah. Our tour manager and keyboard player, they all prefer the bottom bunk. They say it's the nicest. They said the worst part about the bottom bunk is if you blow a tire out, it scares the crap out. Of you, but you're by everybody's feet.

Theo Von
Yeah, that's a good point. I guess there's a lot more dirt down there. There's a little bit of foot traffic. If you open the curtain, people throwing. Their shoes off, and then you got to wake up, move shoes out of the way.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. You have to really want to get up. So I will tell you. Our old bus.

Andrew Bishop
Well, we call it. It's a bus, the one we traveled in before. It's like a redneck prevost. It was a 99 e 450 with six bunks built in the back of it. You could probably google it, Ben.

Yeah, you could. The breeze is what we named it. And this was homemade. So this is how you guys first, when you guys started hitting the road. Yeah.

And it. We. We broke down a lot, picked ourselves up off the side of the road multiple times. Yeah. So we had started looking for a van, and the vans were just so expensive at the time, so.

Brandon Coleman
Yeah, we're sitting on there. Yeah. I don't know if we have a picture of the inside. Probably not. Not on the Internet.

That's an old picture. And this looks like one of those things where they go to pick up seniors, kind of to take them to market and stuff. Is it that sort of like a shuttle bus? Did it have that sort of door on it? That's us waving goodbye.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah, that was when we got the new bus. Uh, it had, uh. It had the. It had the door. It had an electric open.

We ended up just getting rid of it. And then our security system was just a ratchet strap had an eye bolt on it, and we just hooked to it. It was rough at nighttime. Yeah. But we, uh.

We're practically diesel mechanics. If you ever got a 7.3 and you worked on. Cause there's so many breakdowns, you mean? Yeah, we had one at, uh. We had one.

Theo Von
Well, we had a guy that refused to. He would buzz, cut his hair every day. Refuse to cut any of his ear hair. What about his nose hair? It was all coming out of his ears.

Whatever was supposed to be in his nose had really had gone upstream, I guess you could see it. Oh, yeah, you could see it. I mean, it was like his, you. Know, one of those little troll dolls or something. Yeah, like one of those dolls you would get at school.

You put on your. On your pencil. Yeah. You gotta cut that at night. You gotta do it for him.

Oh, I think the moon cuts his hair. It was his hair. I mean, it was like it was involved in something extraterrestrial. And he had. But that thing broke down a couple times, and one time he just threw a cup of water on it.

I was like, that's not how we gotta get it. Is he shampooing it? I'm talking about the engine. The engine broke down one time and he threw a cup of water on it. I thought you talking about his ear hair.

Andrew Bishop
Oh, the ear hair on his ear head. We've thrown our share. Well, we blew a hub. We throw. We had to throw water on it.

Theo Von
Yeah. Mostly just to listen to it sizzling how hot it was. It's hot. It's hot. That's always the best mechanic dude, when you just crack that thing up.

Here. We've had some. There was one. You remember the. Oh, we blew a heater hose and it had what's called a quick connect on it.

Andrew Bishop
Was it a heater hose? You talking about, Joe? No, this was me and you. You remember I spit on it. Oh, yeah.

We couldn't get it to go over that little. It's like you just push it on it. Clips, and that's it. And we just fought with it for hours. And I was like, we missed our show.

Brandon Coleman
We had to cancel our show and everything. Cause we could not get this thing to slide up. It just needed. And I was like, you know what? Screw.

Andrew Bishop
I went in there. We're all sitting in the bus kind of thinking about what to do. I went out there and spit on it and pushed it on there and got it good, and it worked, man. That's it. Oh, that's all you need a lot of times.

Theo Von
Red clay strays, man. Thank you guys for coming in. Thanks for having us. For having. Yeah.

I'm such a big fan, guys. Why? I don't know. There's. Damn, there's something just.

Damn, it feels like a little bit whimsical, historical, romantic about the music, you know? Thank you. There's something that feels like you just hop on the clock hands and just start spinning backwards, and it's like. Almost feels like a little bit of like a time warp. I don't know.

This just feels. It feels good, man. It feels good to listen to. Well, that's cool. You know, I know you guys started.

You guys are from the south. You guys are from Alabama, right? We all still live there. Born and raised. Mobile.

And how did you guys. Was it a couple of you at first? You guys have five guys now. We have six now. Okay.

Brandon Coleman
But, yeah, it was originally five. Yeah, we just. We just hired a keyboard player. Oh, wow. Like, last month.

Andrew Bishop
Yep. And did you audition for that or how'd that go? We actually met him on, when we were touring with l King and he was playing with l at the time, and then we realized last summer that he wasn't playing with l anymore and, you know, reached out to him immediately. It was one of those. We showed up like, we're sevens.

He's like, he's not with us anymore. We turned around, made a phone call. Like, we got him now he's ours. You're like, they let him go. Yeah.

Theo Von
Crazy. Oh, that's perfect, then. So is that needed because you want to add a different element to the music or what do you. Why do you. How do you come to make that choice?

Kind of. I think it's. Yeah, we just wanted to. We've always wanted a keys player to, you know, lay down piano and organ tracks, and I could play a little bit, but not near as good as we needed, I guess. So that's always been a thing we wanted to add in our music.

Brandon Coleman
And it was supposed to be we were going to get our drummer's little brother to play keys with us, and he passed away in 2020. So that was. Sevens is the right guy to fill that role that was originally intended for him? I think. Yeah.

Theo Von
Was there, like, a trial night where he comes in and you're like, okay, this is. Normally it would. We would hold an audition, but we already knew how great of a player he was from seeing him play with Elle and just sitting around in green rooms when there'd be a piano in the green room and we saw him play and how good he was. I think we've always been kind of looking for that piano player. And when we saw him with elves, like Brandon said, it's one of those like, dang, that guy's.

Andrew Bishop
He's good. So when we saw that opportunity, we jumped on it as soon as we could. Yeah. And he fits in just long with us. Yeah.

Brandon Coleman
When we called, we weren't like, do you want to audition for us? We were like, hey, do you want to play with us? But here we are. We're auditioning we'll audition in front of house guys and guitar techs, but. And how does the band start to form up like, when it started out?

Theo Von
How does a band even start? Because I'm used to just hearing some guys, like, get together, write down a song or whatever, and then just kind of get in a fight at somebody's house, and then the band is done. We do that. We just haven't quit yet. Plenty of fights have happened now.

Brandon Coleman
It's. I had actually met drew right when I was still in high school, and then drew introduced me to Andrew, and we had started a little cover band. Drew, the guitar player, he was actually the manager at the time. And, you know, that band played for a while, and we had actually hired John in that band, and he played for a couple months before it dissolved. And then we hired Zach, our guitar player, and started calling ourselves reclasstreys.

And then drew, eventually we learned that he could sing, and he was learning how to play guitar at the time. So we started getting Drew to come on stage with us, and when he first started getting on stage with us, he kept his amp turned all the way down. He wouldn't even actually play. Yeah, he was just really shy. I didn't know there was a way to be shy on there with the other.

Andrew Bishop
He was faking it till he made it. That's one thing that was cool to see is. Cause I lived with him and just. He would lock himself in his room every day pretty much for, like, a year and just taught himself how to play guitar. Wow.

I used to tell him to stop playing, too. I feel bad now. He'd be in there in the old band. We'd be ending practice, and he'd have, like, a beer bottle just raking it across the strings, and I'd just have to tell him, like, dude, you gotta give me a minute. You gotta stop.

And now he's like, drew's one of those. He gets the most improvement award every year for us. He just gets better and better, and it's just, he's good. I wish I had his worth ethic when it came to learning the instrument. So he was.

Theo Von
It was just so he was on with you guys, and then he got better. Well, he was the manager and our first band. And then when red clay strays started, the five of us started that, you know, together. He is handsome, handsome devil there. He's like, I gotta get in here.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah, I think he. He just. He's got it in his song. Him and Brandon's little brother Matthew write our songs. Pretty much 50 50.

And Brandon write some, too. So I think it's just natural in him. He just had to find that way. Getting it out, and I think what got him on stage was we noticed he was singing harmonies at practice, so we're like, hey, get on stage and start singing with us. And he didn't want to just be standing on stage empty handed, so he would turn the guitar down and just hold the guitar pretty much.

Brandon Coleman
And then somewhere along the line, decided that he wanted to start actually playing, so he taught himself. Wow, that's amazing, Zack. He's just always been incredible. Yeah, Zach just come right in, just ripping and shredding and blowing everybody away. He's.

Now. It's just surprising to see that drew and Zach, just two completely different styles and how they've learned off of one another over the years. And so, like, in the past, probably year, things have started to get busier, right? Yeah, yeah, we've been especially. I think things really started taking off for us.

Andrew Bishop
We were actually off the road last year, last fall, in November, and we just see these numbers just like on a rocket ship, like, what's. What the hell's going on? Yeah, we. So it's just riding it out. We hired my little brother, who is the other songwriter, so we had already.

Brandon Coleman
We had already been playing all of his songs, you know, and. But he would do his own thing. And I think he was driving for Uber at the time, and, like, last. We took him on the El King run last year and then officially hired him, like, last April. And he just went right to work recording us and monitoring our social medias and, like, building a social media presence and then popping off on tick tock, I think a couple times.

Really? Yeah, that with the El tour just kind of jump started it a little bit for us. Yeah, he does a great job because there's a lot of really. He has a lot of fun clips on there. You guys have some cool stuff on YouTube, some stuff that I hadn't heard that wasn't released yet.

Theo Von
Just, like, on Spotify and stuff. They used to be how we tour. Yeah, we toured off of YouTube. We just tell people to call venues and tell them, check out YouTube and Facebook. Yeah, just, you know, hopefully they book us.

Brandon Coleman
And a lot of them did. So that's what we did. And when did you guys start touring? Pretty heavily. Kind of like, when did it.

Andrew Bishop
Oh, shoot. We used to play. I mean, we'd tour. We'd play 200 cat rooms. I remember getting excited for 70 people showing up.

I mean, we've always been. We just wanted. Our big thing was we want to be the hardest working band in the. In America. So we would, I mean, shoot, for the last couple of years, we've played majority of the year we're out on the road.

Especially last year, we did over 150 shows, driving ourselves. So it's like more of like 250 travel days or more. And then that was the same the year before. We're just running around, breaking down and just excited for 50 people to be in front of us. Gosh, it's crazy to look back at that now.

And they come. We always wanted where we are now. We kind of always looked up to like, man, I want to play these clubs, you know, these thousand 2000 cat rooms every night. I could get used to that, like, opening for people. And now we're there and now we're like, man, those arenas look fun.

How about. How about getting used to doing that, you know? So, yeah, our festival. Do you guys do a lot of festivals, too? Well, that'll probably happen this summer.

Yeah, we do a lot of festivals. I don't know if we really like festivals as much. We like doing our own show. We're not pressed for time. Festivals.

You gotta be. You gotta be on time with starting and ending. And that's just. It's kinda. We like to take our time and relax.

Brandon Coleman
Set is really short, too. It's like 45 minutes, and it's like, I'm just now starting to get warmed up at 45 minutes, you know, and then it's over with. Yeah, yeah. We're not headlining. Festivals are playing like, 03:00 in the afternoon, you know.

Theo Von
Oh, yeah. Sunburn time. Oh, yeah. We just did it in Tortuga and Fort Lauderdale. Oh, yeah.

At the Heat Stroke festival. The Heat stroke festival. Yeah, we. We just felt like we just ruined everybody's beach party. Yeah, that's the worst.

Andrew Bishop
We up there playing sad songs. Dude, I remember one night we had to play. I'm thinking of one time they put us at this italian kind of cocaine sort of Christmas kind of party. And it was. This was in LA.

Theo Von
It was probably about, like, maybe seven years ago. Like, are you guys gonna perform at this Christmas party? This cocaine Christmas party? Yeah, well, everybody. We get there early and everybody's trying to get us to do cocaine, and we're doing it.

And then, like, we had to perform, but we thought it would be like a stage and, like a good setup. So I think it had rained or something. And they put, like, this party in, like, a tent, one of those white tents with the fake plastic windows. Oh, yeah. You know?

Brandon Coleman
Yeah. And so we had to perform in there right next to the tables, like you were. Some people's backs were like, you were on the curve of the table and their backs, and they were eating. You were doing stand up. Oh, it was.

Andrew Bishop
You just feel like you're just in the way. It was so hard. Especially high on cocaine, I'm sure, too. Oh, it made me so, like, scared and nervous, and some lady kept kind of biting her lip at me and, oh, that was one of the worst moments that ever happened. She was probably doing the cocaine, too.

That's probably that jaw thing that goes. On, you know, everybody in the room. You're probably misreading that one. Everybody was rattling, rattling. Everybody in there definitely had a catalytic converter issue.

Theo Von
It was just. But that was it. That was a tough gig, man. Now we've had those tough gigs make you. Make you humble, though.

Oh, yeah. I mean, we just had a. Go ahead, Brandon. I know what you're gonna talk about. I was gonna talk about the purple buffalo.

Andrew Bishop
Oh. I was gonna talk about Dallas Cowboys. Was that a corporate gig you did? No, I've done some really bad ones. I hate corporate.

Brandon Coleman
Corporate shows are terrible. Yeah. Some guy made his son come up and give us $10.01 night when we were on stage, and it was. We're performing like an empty backyard. Really?

Theo Von
Yeah. And you're doing comedy? Yeah, yeah. I've never seen someone tip a comedian on stage. Oh, lie.

This kid ran across a child, go. Give that nice man $10. I've had, you know, and I've had those shows, too, where it's. It's just like you're in someone's backyard and they're not paying attention, but at least there's music and it's super loud and you can drown all that out. I can only imagine being in that setting trying to tell jokes and, like, nobody's paying attention to you.

Brandon Coleman
I don't know how you keep it together, man. I'd have an anxiety attack just trying to. It just. You're like, yeah, this is what I deserve. That's where it kind of ends with you, you know?

Theo Von
This tough part about the kid was he kept running across, like, halfway and then got confused with what to do. And he would go back and ask his dad. So he. It was just like, just give me the $10 or I'll come get it. But I can't.

It was like, I was, did you. Just take it from him? And he started crying. I was just like, don't drop out of school, kid. Thanks.

Oh, that was a really tough one. That's putting the grind in, though, man. Oh, yeah. Oh, dude, I used to drive at 110 miles an hour to get to the next gig, putting everyone's life in danger so that I could perform it, like an o Charlie somewhere or something. It was like everybody.

It was very. We used to have our mexican restaurant gigs back in. Way back in the day, doing four hour cover shows. Oh, that sounds fun. It's not.

Andrew Bishop
It's fun for a minute for at least the first. There was one right before COVID had happened, and it was this place called the Purple Buffalo and North Charleston. Yeah. And we played, like, right after this. Heavy metal.

No, it was like a punk rock show. Yeah, like a punk rock show. Three punk rock bands before us and. Then you and then us. And we're playing covers at the time, too.

Brandon Coleman
Our country bumpkin butts. Just get up there and just start playing music. The room just empties out, and we're literally playing to nobody. And so I just go out in the crowd, and I just sit where the crowd would be, and I'm just sitting at the table singing to the band as they're playing. And then the whole time, the bartender was, like, offering us drinks.

So we're. And we're broke at the time, too, and we're just thinking, oh, cool, at least we got a bar tab. At least we're gonna get the drinks. And then after the show, she just brings us the bill. Oh, man.

Andrew Bishop
We didn't get paid to play. It was, like. Didn't make any money. Yeah, we were, like, looking around the bus for change. Pay our bar tab at this place.

Theo Von
Just drank. There's a picture of an actual purple buffalo. I prefer that one. Oh, yeah, that's nice. Oh, that's what the place looks like with people in it.

Andrew Bishop
That's kind of cool. Oh, I've met her before. She parties, dude. We've definitely had those. Those.

Those empty shows where you just play for yourselves. Yeah. That's when you really got to enjoy what you're doing. We used to play for tips, like, just our tip bucket. Determined how far we were going to get the next day.

Brandon Coleman
We'd have no money, and, you know, we'd get tip money for gas and maybe even one hotel room for all five of us to pile up in. Nuh uh. And it was just chance every day, you know? Yeah. Damn.

Stayed in a lot of people's houses or even slept in the car a couple times before we got the bus or shuttle bus. That is the breeze. Yeah. Yeah. We've, uh.

Andrew Bishop
Our. I wouldn't say we're successful. We're not where we are from. Overnight, I guess. Yeah.

Theo Von
I think that's what I was trying to get at a little bit. Just, like, thinking about all this stuff. It's funny. A lot of times, I'll forget about a lot of that. Oh, yeah.

Andrew Bishop
In a weird way, you can take it for granted pretty easily. Yeah. Not in. It's weird for me. I don't even know if I take it.

Theo Von
I just forget. It's like you forget the work that you've put into something. Yeah. You know, we've been doing. Me and you've been doing this since 2015, so, you know, seven years, eight years.

Andrew Bishop
I was in college, too. Nine years for me and you. Yeah. I'm thinking I've known you. Red clay straight, and the band before that.

Theo Von
What was it called? Coleman Mason Band. It was just a local cover band. Band we don't speak of, really. We would.

Brandon Coleman
We would run. Run the crowd out. Yeah. I love that. Hey, look.

Theo Von
Hey, look. Then red clay. Yeah. We come in. We're coming as the bar closer, man.

Andrew Bishop
They want to get them out. We got them out. Oh, I love that. It's like, instead of playing closing time, it's like, let's hire this back. Yeah, they'll get them out.

And you want to shut this thing down. We got you. What's even with, uh, which we mainly ran people way because we. It was so loud. The guitar amps were so loud, but even with red clay strays, we would be.

Brandon Coleman
We were playing somewhere in, uh, at, uh, in Arkansas, where the guy, the sound man, come up on stage and he told us to turn down. And I was like, the only thing running through this system that you're wanting to turn down is my vocals. Like, the drums are still going to be loud, the guitars still going to be loud. And so I walk over there and I inch it down just a little bit and, you know, continue playing, and he just, like, walks on after a song just right in the middle of the set. So we're not doing this tonight.

And he just walks up and turns everything down by itself. And I was just like, man, if I didn't need this $500, I would freaking leave right now. Yeah. Oh, we used to talk. A mad game.

Andrew Bishop
Was Pat was at Lee. That was at a restaurant, too. Yeah, that was in JJ's in Little Rock, Arkansas. Was that little rock? No, that was Fayetteville, Arkansas.

Theo Von
Yeah, that's the tough part when you're going to compete with people's moment to dine. Yeah. Yeah, that's a dinner. Yeah. Those.

When you're gonna say, hey, set that fort down for a second, Mama. I got something for you. We'll give you a pork chop. Can you turn the music down? Can you tell them to turn it down?

Brandon Coleman
That's what playing with people eating is like. And we used to do our own sound, too, so we used to make it real loud because we grew up listening, like, skinnered. And we thought, that's how he's supposed to be. Yeah, just loud. We're still pretty loud.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah, we are probably still pretty loud. You know, the number one thing, I think that's tough sometimes if I go into, like, a small venue or like a. Like a. Just like a bar and somebody's playing is if they have. If you can't hear the vocals a lot of times.

Oh, yeah, it's. It sucks. Cause you're like, I don't. I might love this. Yeah.

That's why we. We try to hire a good, good sound guy. That's. Dude, the sound guy is what I mean, that's your. That's your.

He's probably practically a member of the band. He's making you sound good for everybody. It's a good. And we've been to a lot of big concerts like, this sounds like crap. And this sucks because we know how good that band is.

Theo Von
Mmm. Doesn't matter how good the music is. If you can't understand or can't hear something, then it's pointless. Yeah, there's a lot of. A lot of venues aren't really built for comedy or music, where you have to end up playing too, which is kind of wild, you know?

Like recently I went to some places and the venue just wasn't. It's not the perfect venue, but it's the only one in that area that you can play. Yeah, we've been to those where you walk in and the reverb in the room is just ridiculous. You just know you're just gonna blow these people's heads off. Just part of it.

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Well, reclaims all over Alabama. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you get over anywhere over there. I didn't like the name at first.

Andrew Bishop
I don't think any of us liked any name we came up with. What are some, what were some other options? Oh, dude, I won the band, like, slots. Brandon Lane and the Hurricanes. We on the Gulf coast, we got hurricanes.

That's his middle name. Lane. That's perfect. I liked it, too. That'll be the alter ego.

The alter ego. No, but my brother came up with it just randomly. Brandon Lane in the hurricanes. Red clay straight. What are.

We had the dirt leg trio for a little while when it was just me, Brandon and John. Yeah, the dirt leg trio. We're from south Alabama. We're not good at making up names. Yeah, that one, I think is a little bit.

Theo Von
That's like a gangrene. That feels more like an infection. Staff. The staff boys. It was staff boys.

Brandon Coleman
Something I got from my job. It's like they've, they wouldn't say, you redneck. They'd say, you, dirt leg. Dirt leg. That's worse.

What is a dirt leg? And they're like, well, here's a redneck. And then here's a dirt leg. It's like, trashier, worse of a person, you know, steal from you. They're a dirt leg.

Theo Von
Damn. We would have somebody call. Yeah, we call, like, a dirt serpent. That's kid rock, we call it. I would say.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah, I'd say kid rock falls in that dirt leg category. Yeah, I just described a lot of bad stuff. I know. I'm just joking. No, he's like.

Theo Von
Yeah, he's more of a dirt serpent. He's like the leader of a Lee. You know, of a club. Yeah, you just had him not to. Oh, there's.

Brandon Coleman
Whoa. He brought up the urban dictionary. Dirt leg. A female looking for a quick fuck who only has enough time to take one pant leg off. We ain't got those.

Theo Von
Getting the other pant leg dirty. All right, dirt leg. All right. Yeah, they just put that tick tock band into. Yeah, we actually on.

Andrew Bishop
On the way down here or on the way up here. We actually just saw that. We got. Seeing that. I've seen it on Instagram.

Yeah, we saw it on the news. Let me see. Congress had passed the bill this week as part of a wide ranging foreign aid package meant to support Israel and Ukraine. It was approved by the House on Saturday and by the Senate on Tuesday. And it also had tick tock hidden in.

Is that what it's saying? Yeah, welcome to our government. They always be doing that. Yeah. Reading that.

Fine print, people. Now we lost TikTok. It's gonna suck if it actually goes away, though. I know, man. There's gotta be something behind it.

Brandon Coleman
Even our band has grown so much from tick tock. You know, I don't even be ticking the talk. I don't even. Not even own it. It's fun.

Theo Von
It's dangerous, because you can get into a warp zone where you look up and suddenly your family's not. Hasn't eaten. I could see that easily. Somebody's scrolling on TikTok, and then they're just. They look up and their children haven't eaten.

Brandon Coleman
You know, that's what they need to scroll. Or the death scroll. Death scroll. Instagram or TikTok. See, I get on my reels from Instagram, and my fiance gets mad.

Andrew Bishop
Cause I'm, like, six months behind. Oh, yeah, y'all are behind on the YouTube. I do the YouTube shorts, too. That's my death scroll. Oh, yeah.

I'm getting, like, eight months, nine months behind. Yeah, I mean, you're an auspice. The reason I like TikTok is you can ask him, like, all of my Instagram stuff, is just messed up people. We get dark, like our Instagram reels. People getting a motorcycle wrecks, and just a lot of crazy stuff that I'm like, how's this on Instagram?

We done screwed our algorithms up. But then, tick tock, it's like, well, here's how you make a garden in your backyard. Or here's how you. For now, until you get on the dark side of TikTok, I haven't been. On the dark side.

Theo Von
Damn. I don't. Do they have. I don't want to get. Don't start searching things.

What are some things? Look under some of my links. I have a couple of favorites that I've had on there recently. Oh, here we go. Right here.

Now, this was something I saw. This is called the oriental shorthair. These are tubular. Long and tubular, with rock hard bodies. Tight closed flying coats.

Brandon Coleman
A cat. And then they have. Explain what a cat is. A thing ate a ruler, homie. That thing.

Theo Von
Really? Really? That's a different ethnicity of a cat. Got your measuring stick, huh? That.

Brandon Coleman
Was a wiener dog. Wiener cat. Weiner. Wiener cat. Dude, you don't want to see our recent searches.

Theo Von
Really? It's getting pretty bad. Well, those are just some of them. That's one of my faves. I'll go through a couple more.

Andrew Bishop
What, the cat videos? Well, yeah, we might as well enjoy TikTok while we got it, cuz it ain't gonna have it much longer. And that's asian guy walking with Turtle. And that's always a beautiful. That's really very wholesome algorithm.

Theo Von
That's like the notebook in Japan, dude, that video right there, it's their notebook. What else do we have?

This guy's a little nativity scene on the go. This is like doordash nativity scene. Play it one more time. Is that all it is? Yeah, it's like $40.

The dude pulls up. Oh.

Andrew Bishop
It'S like those things. Like a little baby. He could start using, too, for Christmas. Oh, if his wife. Maybe if he's probably got to ask his wife.

Reminds me of those. Those booths at the fair. You pay like $20. Go see the snake lady. Oh, yeah, walk in.

It's just like a. We just had a carnival worker on, and his grandfather was the great Lentini, and he had three legs and two penises. Okay. And I thought that was endowed. No, that's what people thought at first.

Theo Von
Like, damn, one of these things needs a shoe on it. Oh, this is real. Yeah, that's a real guy. Franklin teeny, right there. Wow.

Andrew Bishop
He's got his own wikipedia. But wait, he said his dad, the carnival worker that we had in, named Mitch, he had a granddaddy. Okay. Cause that guy was born in 1889. Yeah, this guy.

Where is he from? Mmm. Whoo. Damn. Narnia, probably.

Brandon Coleman
That's the stuff you see in, like, the Marvel movies, though, man. Dude, I bet that dude could run a foot race, play soccer. I bet it could climb up walls and stuff. Oh, I bet that's a modern day spider man. That's what I was gonna say, but he lives in a web.

That would be. Yeah. I can't have one nude picture of this man. I wonder if you have to, you. Know, attitude was, you think he had, like, a temper when getting bar fights and just start kicking people?

Theo Von
That's a great call, huh? It would be crazy if he's. You're standing there talking to him, and then one of his foot just puts a cigarette into his mouth, you know? This is what the UFC is missing right here. What if you think the weirdos, like, the people from Nick who have, like, feet, things like, oh, on foot finder.

This guy would have been. Yeah. Spokesman. Oh, he would have been the Naomi. Campbell, three legs, 4ft, 16 toes.

Come see him, boy. I'd appreciate it. That math ain't adding that. Math ain't math. And is it?

Different time, different math. He had one extra. Didn't they ban, like, you can't show yourself off in carnivals and stuff, like freak shows? Did they ban them? Let's look that up.

Brandon Coleman
They did. It was considered inhumane. Well, what if you, like, sign yourself up? It didn't matter. They banned it anyway.

Theo Von
Freak shows remained popular till the 1940s, when public opinion began to shift. Throughout the 20th century, several federal laws made discrimination against people with physical disabilities illegal, and the exhibition of extraordinary bodies was outlawed in some states. Wow. Now that seems a little prejudiced. What I read was the freaks and the freak shows got mad because they were like, this is how we make a living.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah. Of course, people pay to look at me, but I don't know how true that was. Well, it's like the Redskins now having to probably change their name back. Cause the natives got mad at them for changing it. Oh, they did now they got.

That's what I've read. Yeah, they're trying to change it back now. Yeah, supposedly. Wow. My friend Cliff Kingsbury is coaching up there.

Theo Von
It's his first year up there. Offensive coordinator. I graduated college with the safety Jeremy Reeves. Oh, wow. I did sports medicine in college, so I did some of his rehabilitation.

Damn. And is he healthy now? Yeah, well, he just came off an injury, but he's good. Damn good enough to be playing with the commanders, which. Who knows if that's that good.

We'll see. We'll see. Remains to be seen. He's getting paid. Yeah.

Which states outlawed. Which states outlawed those shows? That's kind of interesting. I wonder if it was like. Like, who would do it?

I wonder what states would do it. Southern states or. Well, I wonder if they looked at as, like, you're just. It's hard to imagine the political demographic back then in the forties. I wonder if it's, like, you're bringing, like, you can't really call them special.

Andrew Bishop
It's like handicap people and making a show of them. But what if they sign up and they want to make the show themselves? Well, they have the same thing type of now where it's, you know, they have, like, a lot of people with which, what some people call disabilities have, like, shows on TikTok or social media channels. TLC. Yeah, TLC, their whole network is based off of people with four necks or whatever, you know, or double, you know.

Do you ever watch my strange addiction? That was one I watched when I was younger. It'd be like lady drinking gasoline. Oh, yeah. One lady liked to eat toilet paper.

Theo Von
Oh, yeah. She ate the foam out the mattress. She was a big one, too. Went straight to her hips. It sure did.

Damn. Really? Dang, boy. Squidward with them krabby patties. Yeah.

Watch out, pimpedic baby. I like them pickies, baby. I think she ate the springs, too. You'd have to look that one up later. Well, we had a, we spoke with a man the other day who ate glass.

Andrew Bishop
Was it on the street or was it on the podcast? I can't remember, but, yeah, he's had a lot of it. You know? I don't like anything like that. I wouldn't think so.

Theo Von
Yeah. With the demise of the carnival, an important slice of american history risk being lost, but the residents of Gib, Gibsonton, Florida, are trying to keep the legacy of the town's famous freaks alive, I think. A town of freaks. Yeah, it is. Florida.

Gibtown was a utopia. Its first settlers, the giant and his wife, the half woman, ran a campsite, a bake shop in the fire department. Wow. That's a whole town of, like, the freak show. In the golden days of american carnival, all roads led to Gibsonton, Florida.

The self defined 14,900 inhabitant town 12 miles south of Tampa became the industry capital. Kearney town. They must have been next to, like, one of those. It makes me power plants. It makes me wonder, though, like, if.

Brandon Coleman
If it's. If it became illegal to, like, stare at freaks in a freak show, but it's okay to go watch mentally handicapped people in the Olympics and stuff. Why is one except one bull and one's not? It's a good question. Yeah.

Is it just because one's doing sports and the other's just sitting on a couch, shoot, juggling? I seen some. So I see him juggling. Yeah, you would think I would like. That's a sport, dude.

Theo Von
I think it's like, it doesn't even. People with handicaps are more like, have you watched the show with dating under the influence of down syndrome or whatever? What is it called? Down for love. Right.

Dating on. I've never watched it, but I've heard of it. It's amazing, right? And it's just like, it's people that have disabilities, some of them are down syndrome, and they go on first dates, right. And they start to learn relationships, and they are just as awkward as anybody that doesn't have the disabilities, you know?

In fact, sometimes they are better at dating than people that have disabilities because they're a little bit more frank about what's going on. Little more open, a little more bold about it. Yeah. Yeah. It's fascinating.

That show is fascinating. I was just watching baby reindeer. Have you seen that? We don't watch cable. I don't really have a lot of time to watch tv, but damn, I'm.

Living in damn luxury. Then we ain't got cable. I try to watch stuff on the bus, but I usually just end up falling asleep. Yeah. That's impossible.

Brandon Coleman
Yeah. What's baby reindeer? Baby reindeer. It's a. This guy, Richard gad is his name, and he writes this.

Theo Von
It's amazing. It's a. It's like eight episodes or six episodes. It's about he. He had a stalker and.

And it goes from there. That's a setup. Is. Is a reindeer involved? Um, it just.

He said he looked baby reindeer. It looks like a reindeer. Interesting. That sounds cool. You guys have one full album out, right?

Brandon Coleman
Yeah. And now you're putting together another album. It's put together. Oh, it's done. It's done.

Theo Von
Okay. It's ready to come out. Coming out here in the very near future. Wow. Hopefully by the end of summertime.

How does that feel? What's that? Cuz that's really.

Brandon Coleman
I can't. I can't wait for people to hear it. Because it's just a lot better of an album than the first album, as far as production goes, because we recorded it with Dave Cobb. Oh, yeah, Chris Stapleton. Yeah.

Theo Von
He's done so many. All our heroes. Yeah, it's been a. It was always a goal of ours to work with Dave since we very first started. Yeah, there he is.

And now, how does that come to pass, that you guys get to match up with him? Does he reach out to you? Do you start to interview a series of producers? No, we actually, at the time, we were. We were looking up studios, so we wanted to go to a studio that.

Brandon Coleman
Where the Alabama shakes recorded their first album. I think it was called the bomb. Shelter here in Nashville. In Nashville. And that's.

That was the plan until Brandon Malden, who works with Conway Entertainment, which is where our manager works, made the connection. He reached out to Dave for us, and he's like, hey, we represent this band, if you. If you're interested in working with them. And Dave knew who we were, and so he was. He was like, yeah, I'd love to work with him.

And then he set up a Zoom call with us and reached out, and we talked to him that day. We were actually on the way to a show. We had to pull over on the side of the road and talk with him. And why? So the van wouldn't make such a noise.

Theo Von
He could talk. It's so loud in there. We were like, we stopped for some barbecue, too. So I'm, like, eating a barbecue sandwich. Talking to teams, but there was no service.

Brandon Coleman
They were, like, walking around, trying to get service during this, because it's like we're talking to one of our heroes in the middle of Alabama, in the middle of nowhere. But you're like, these guys can't. They can't even produce a call. They're not going to make anything. We're probably somewhere in Alabama, too.

Theo Von
Oh, that had to be a pretty magical moment. Yeah, that was. And we didn't know how to feel about it. It was crazy. We're just.

Andrew Bishop
We don't really like that. The record, the first record that's out, like, I cannot stand to go back and listen to it, really, at all. It was such a cluster making that thing. And I like it. I like it for what it is.

Theo Von
Yeah. For what it is. We just gotten out of another record deal that wasn't working for us, and the only way to continue forward was to get out of it. So we finally made it out of that thing, and then just on our own, not knowing what to do. And, you know, we go to this guy's studio in Huntsville.

Andrew Bishop
Sink. Every dollar we had go in the debt making it. And that's. Eventually we were still unhappy with it, trying to make it, but eventually we just had to, you know, call it quits and say it's done. And then.

Theo Von
Was that because of money? Like, just. Did you call it? Yeah, it's just. I mean, money and time.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah. We didn't put all this work in this window of time. We opened up for it and we. So this next one, though, I listen. We listen to it every day, I think.

And it's incredible. Yeah. I haven't gotten tired of it yet. We're ready to put that one out. It's gonna.

Should be pretty good. Or the people hate it. We don't know. I can't even imagine. Cause it.

Theo Von
Yeah. When y'all's music. Come on, man. It just feels good. Can we listen?

Will you take me through who comes in on wonder and why? Like, in the beginning. Just in the beginning. So I know who the different. Cause you guys have different band members.

I wanna make sure that I get the gist. Can you play it for us by chance? Just play it through the. You can play it through this. Figure we can walk through it.

Brandon Coleman
Through the telly. Yeah. What song do you wanna listen to? Wondering why. Yeah.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah. This is it right here. Can you just take. I just wanna know who comes in when. Right.

Theo Von
Cause it starts off just with you singing. Mm hmm. Yeah. You probably won't hear it, but I'm in the. Right at the second verse.

Andrew Bishop
First verse. But I just play bass. It's not that big of a deal, you know. But you come in, boom. Yeah, that's it.

Well, I go to the court, you'll hear. Does Matthew record this? That's me doing the private school. Never miss Guitar Church. So that's you on the guitar.

Brandon Coleman
I come from blue collar. Ol boat paddle. And here comes my big moment. Dirt right here.

One earlier cut used to have finger snaps right here. Ooh, I like that. But who was hitting that symbol right there? That's John. Okay.

Theo Von
That's John. And that's Drew. There's Drew.

And then it's everybody. That's awesome. Then that's Zach in there laying in the. Those backup parts. But just ride.

It's like fretting that. Play a slide on that. No. Okay, fretting. What's it like?

Brandon Coleman
Does this right here? Cordon or making.

Theo Von
Got it. Yeah. I was just listening the other day. I was wondering. I was like, who's coming in when?

Just so I know who's doing what. Yeah. What's the collaborate? Collaborating, like, for an album? Like, do you guys seem to like, does it get tough?

How is it, like, battling egos and stuff? I guess at this point, if you spend that much time in a. Like, in that close a quarters, you guys have got it figured out. Oh, we're brothers, man. Yeah, we used to.

Brandon Coleman
We would work up songs, and in the earlier days, you know, we would get aggravated if we didn't want to take the song in our direction or my direction or Zach's direction or whatever. But at somewhere along the line, I think we just got to a point where we realized, at the end of the day, we all want the same thing, is to make good music. And so we try everything, you know? And there's always a way to make everybody happy as far as making music like that. And we'll try everything, even if we have to play the song for eight or 9 hours while we're working it up, just play it over and over again all these different ways until we find the right way.

And there's not really any egos involved with that, you know? Damn. I don't think a lot of bands are like that. At least I wouldn't think so. So you feel very fortunate.

Theo Von
Yeah, I know. When I met you guys, when I met you guys, we were in Virginia. Oh, Charlottesville. Maybe you were playing. That's where you brought us out to your show up there.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah, you were. Where the heck. Where were we? I don't know. I can't remember.

Shoot. I feel like you should have thought about. I think it's Charlottesville. It was Charlottesville, but we came at the end and saw a couple. You got to see a couple of the songs.

He wore that. That goofy Jeff Gordon jacket. Yeah. I didn't believe you were going to show up. Oh, yeah.

Brandon Coleman
Theo's probably going to come out, and I was like, theo's going to be way too busy to be worried about us, dude. I had so much fun. Yeah, look, there we are. But y'all's band, everybody, there was just. There was an energy in there, you guys.

Theo Von
We all sat in there and just chatted for a little while, but a lot of groups. It's not like that. You'll meet a group of a band sometimes, and it's not the same energy. You know, dude, we live, we make each other laugh day in and day out. You put five of us, the five of us with each other, we're gonna just we can't help but just crack up laughing.

Yeah. Cause our steam song on the podcast was made by a group called Bishop Gunn. Did you guys hear them? Yeah. Yeah.

Andrew Bishop
They're from south, or they're not together anymore, but they were from South Mississippi. Yeah. And they really had a great start, you know, like, they got to open up for the star. That's us watching you. Oh, gang.

Theo Von
Dude, that's awesome. They had us on their side stage. We were there for, like, five minutes, and we were like. We're, like, watching the clock. We had to leave right at a certain time to get back to start our own show.

Andrew Bishop
We didn't want to leave, man. That's. No, it got bad. Did it? So we left that a good time.

Now we. We. It's funny. Cause we don't really listen to much music as a. As a group.

Like when we come on the bus after a show, it's. It's comedy. Oh, yeah. It's kill Tony's or somebody's stand up special. Hey, kill Tony's so great, man.

We actually saw a couple. I guess it was a couple weeks ago. We went and saw Shane Gillis invite us out. He put us up in the suite and everything. And then we got to meet freaking Tony and Jeff Ross.

Brandon Coleman
Tony was just standing outside smoking a cigarette, and we walked up on him. That dude's as goofy as you think he is. Strange. That's what he was like. Oh, hey, guys.

Andrew Bishop
Had his big old belt, Texas belt buckle, on you from here. Well, he is one of a kind, bro. His show, they have, like, 100,000 people watching it at once when it comes on. That's unprecedented in the world. I feel like I can't remember how we even discovered it, but it's.

It's a. It's a real. It's real. We watch it all the time on the bus. It's just about every night after a show.

It's kill Tony's coming up. It's incredible what it does. I think we're going to a kill Tony in a couple. Probably next, I think next month. Head down Austin.

Yeah, we're going to. Yeah, we got. I think Tony invite us out to do a kill Tony with him. Really? I'll be there.

Yeah, we're going to hang out with you. It's going to be a party then. I think it's at Rogan's place. I'm not mistaken. I don't know where to shoot it.

Theo Von
Yeah, I'm going to go down there for a couple weeks and work on some material. You gonna be on the panel that night, you think? I don't know. They asked if we wanted to go on stage, and I was like, hell, no. No, I want to go watch.

Brandon Coleman
I don't want to get on stage. Yeah. You ain't gonna hurt my feelings today. Yeah. Those poor guys.

Andrew Bishop
I've been doing comedy for 13 years, and they just get roasted to hell. It's like, dang. Yeah. The. The balls that that takes.

Cause, oh, yeah. So hard to make people laugh in a minute, it would almost be like, hey, guys, in 1 minute, make me believe that you are a good band. Yeah. You can't do that. It'd be really hard.

Yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, you could do a couple riffs or whatever, but I feel like it'd be really tough. That in comedy is just something I don't understand how to make. Yeah. I like sitting there watching it and wondering where a joke's gonna go, and then the punchline comes in and just makes you roll while you're laughing.

Brandon Coleman
It's, I can't do that, you know, so I wouldn't want to go on the on kill Tony just for that reason. I'd be up there just playing a band. Yeah. I told Brandon if he ever goes on, you just gotta go up there and sing for a minute. That's all you got.

Andrew Bishop
That's what you gotta do, bro. I'm not even gonna tell you. You just lean hard into it. Yeah, lean into what you do, man. Brother, if they invite you to bring potatoes, bring potatoes, dude.

It's just that being a comedian seems, man, it's like we have music to hide behind, and we have the five of us up or six of us up there to hide behind, and we have each other. When you like watching, especially watching you and Shane, it's like you're up there by yourself, man. You're out in the improv. That's what's so fascinating. You're floating around hoping people laugh or get what they paid for.

Theo Von
We couldn't do it with, I think the hardest thing, I think, to do is that improv where people are working with other people, you know, that's the thing to me, that seems like it's really the toughest. I. That's where I, like, I've tried to take improv classes and stuff, and I was not good at it. In Los Angeles, you weren't good at improv. It was so hard, man.

It was like. Cause it's just you're so used as a comedian. You're so used to just. Yeah, I was just so used to, like, controlling things myself. Yeah.

You know, that I would just. I don't know. It was hard to do it with somebody else, I guess, to trust that somebody else, it was gonna work. Well, you know, it's kind of that chemistry, too, though. Yeah.

Andrew Bishop
There's a surreal moment for even us. It's like. It's hard to believe that people are coming to see you do what you do. Oh, it's. And it doesn't feel right.

Theo Von
One time I was stuck in traffic. We were coming back from the YMCA from working out for a show, and I was like, man, what the fuck, dude? This fucking town. And it was traffic from coming to you, and the driver goes, dude, these people are going to see you. I was like, oh, shit.

Brandon Coleman
You're complaining about the traffic. See, that's when people are awesome. That's whenever goals when you've made is when you can shut down the damn free row freeway outside of the arena. That's when you made it. That's how we felt.

Pulling up to your show with all. That traffic, dude, it was like, are we even gonna have time to get in? We're, like, sitting in traffic. We get out and just start walking the ubers. Just like, we'll just get out here.

Andrew Bishop
We just started walking down the side, literally. The red clay strays. Dude, you guys are just wandering around. Yeah, I think we're in a cool spot right now to where it's like, we definitely get noticed a lot now, but it's still hit or miss in some places, so. Oh.

Brandon Coleman
Especially if I wear a hat. It's like an imposter syndrome for us to like, just. It doesn't make sense to us why people like what we don't feel. I mean, we feel what we do is half ass mediocre, you know, it's just like, you could go spend your time and money on a lot better things. Well, people just.

Theo Von
But even talking to me about the number of shows you guys did last year mean that, you know, the only person I've heard talk that's done that many shows was Lainey Wilson. Last year did a. Yeah, I mean, she was. You know, I saw her at the end of the year, and I was like, man, she is gone. She's.

It just hasn't ended. You know, you have to. I think that's where you. You know, I think that's where the boys and the men are separated. It's not about being the best.

Andrew Bishop
It's not about. It's about literally just going and doing it. If you can stick through it. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Theo Von
Resiliency, for sure. And then I think, like, even with Bishop Gunn, they had, like, addiction. They had, like, some addiction issues in the bank. Like, that kind of stuff tore them, you know? Oh, yeah.

Andrew Bishop
I mean, we've seen that. Not with ourselves, but it's so easy being on the road how you can. I mean, you probably see it with comedy, how you can easily turn to those things. Oh, yeah. It's a dark hole.

You don't want to go down. We've got the seventies. No more. Yeah, it's not the seventies anymore. And the whole sex, drugs, and rock and roll thing is kind of a.

Brandon Coleman
You know, what's the word I'm looking for? Like, a thing of the past. It's like a stereotype. Yeah. Everybody look from the outside looking in.

They think that's what it's like, and it's not really like that anymore. Yeah. And we've always made it clear, like, you know, everybody has their struggles, and whatever you're gonna do, but don't let it get in the way of this. You know what I mean? If you're struggling with alcohol, what?

Not to say that any of us do, but just in the sense of if you are struggling with something, stay sober for an hour and a half a night to play the show. Yeah. And then these people pay money, and they take their time out of their day, or they're scheduled to come see you, and you're gonna get on stage too messed up to perform. That's. That's not cool with me or not cool with any of us.

So that's. We're also. Very strict rule with us. I think, like, we're talking earlier, us five are so close to each other, we're like brothers. When somebody slips a pack, corrects, and, you know, we've really.

Andrew Bishop
Oh, yeah, we've all gotten our ass chewed after a show or two. Yeah. That's pretty fortunate, then, that you guys are able to have that symbiosis or whatever within your group, you know? Oh, we want the best for each other, and we all love each other very much. We all recognize that we're doing something bigger than ourselves.

Brandon Coleman
If you're worrying about yourself and what you're. What you want to do or how you've been done wrong, then you're gonna find all kinds of excuses to get mad or to quit or to argue or fight with somebody. But if you keep it selfless instead of selfish, that's where you can find fulfillment. And the strength to keep going, I guess. Yeah.

Andrew Bishop
And I think a part of that was. Yeah, our come up, meeting some of our heroes and realizing these guys are not cool, and that's how we don't want to ever treat other people or treat our own crew, let alone each other, so. Yeah. Just seeing that kind of stuff on different festivals or different things like that. Yeah.

Brandon Coleman
Yeah. You run into something. We've met some people that you think would be douchebags, and they're cool as hell. Yeah. And that's always cool, you know, it's like meeting you.

Andrew Bishop
You could have been an asshole to us, you know? Yeah, you kind of were, but, yeah, that's okay. We're here, you know, I had to be, I guess. What, did I do something bad? No, you wore that Jeff Gordon jacket.

That was. That was problem one. That'll turn some people off, man. I made you take it off. I felt pee really fast, guys.

Brandon Coleman
I got a pee. I got a pee. You remember the first song you ever heard?

I remember the first song. Sorry, I'm a little out of breath. Going up the stairs. The first song I remember singing was a song by Tracy Byrd called we're from the country, and we like it that way. Yeah, everybody knows everybody.

Theo Von
Everybody calls your friend. Yeah. That was a good song, huh? Don't need an invitation kick off your shoes and come on in. Yeah.

Brandon Coleman
Know how to work and we know how to play. We're from the country and we like it that way. How old were you when you sang them? I had probably four or five years old. And were you singing to the family?

Theo Von
Were you performing for someone, or were you just sitting somewhere just singing that? I've always. My mama told me even before I could talk, I would walk around just going, knee nah ni. Already on the vocal warm ups. Okay.

So. But I've always. Yeah. Just always been a songbird, I guess. I remember having the little radio off of a toy story.

Brandon Coleman
The microphone. Oh, yeah. Dragging the radio around, and it took a cassette tape, and so I'd have the Tracy bird cassette tape in there and just everybody. Yeah. Oh, dude.

Andrew Bishop
Gosh, I just brought back some memories. Yeah. Yeah. The one I had that looks like. Sketch, who was just on here.

Theo Von
Oh, my God. Maybe that's what he base it off of. What's up, brother? Unbelievable. Yeah.

What's up? You gotta send him one. Oh, yeah, we've got a. Send him one. Will you write that down, Ben?

Okay. Um. Yeah. What was that sound you made again? Knee nah ni nah.

Reminds me of squid games, kind of. I did not like that show. Didn't know. It freaked me out a little bit. A lot of p.

Yeah, I don't. Look, I. Yeah, I got some japanese friends and they. They're prone to violence at times, you know. Really?

Andrew Bishop
I can see that. Oh, they liked. Yeah, they, they're really. Cause they keep a lot of their feelings in. And so the only they.

Brandon Coleman
Well, that's like the way of the ninja, though, right? Yeah, yeah, I guess so. They just busted a dude with a samurai sword out there grilling meat. Where was that at? Sounds like Florida.

Andrew Bishop
Um, samurai sword and grilling meat. Yeah, this man. Man grilling in shopping cart, used sword askewer arrested near Santa Monica. Well, he didn't try to stab nobody. That's what I'm saying.

Theo Von
This guy is. Video from the Citizen app captured the wild scene before 03:00 p.m. On Sunday, the man is seen dragging a shopping cart through a bike lane that looks like California. The. The come.

The main compartment of the cart is filled with flaming wood, while the man uses a sword as a skewer to hold meat over the flames. Here's the thing. You can't, if you have so many people who are without homes, right, they're going to start to open up barbacoas or whatever this is called. You know, they're gonna start to open up haircutting. I get my hair cut when I'm in LA by a guy who is a street man.

Andrew Bishop
A street man. But he makes a living cutting hair. He makes a living cutting hair. This dude, dreamer, he's Native American, actually. That's a.

That right there, that's a food truck, a food cart. But same concept. It's the same concept. And yeah, sure, maybe it's FDA approved, maybe it's not. It people, it's still society.

Theo Von
They're still gonna start a civilization. You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody's gonna start a civilization. And so if they don't have money to pay permits for food trucks or whatever else, they're just gonna. That machete is that man's permit.

Brandon Coleman
Yeah. They're gonna resort to whatever they can. They're gonna figure out, and I think we gotta put more swords on the streets. I bet that's some of the best barbecue you probably ever had, too. Oh, samurai sword.

Theo Von
Yeah, Sam. Oh, yeah. Willie's samurai barbecue. He probably did not buy that at the grocery store. Damn, dude, I think that's.

Andrew Bishop
Damn, he's got some of them cali raccoons. I don't know what they got out there. Oh, I think that's probably braised human, bruh. Who knows? You know, you don't know when you're getting it out of a shopping cart.

Theo Von
No, dude, it's look obvious. And here's the thing. The shopping cart will make you think. That it is grocery store quality. Yep.

So really, the guy's got a great concept. Really. It's a grocery store manager quality. Where does. Yeah, where do some of you guys influence come with music?

What do you. What are you guys listening to right now? What am I listening to right now? I've been listening to Lake street dive a lot lately. We just saw them at Mooncrush.

Really? They're incredible. Lake street dive. You never heard of them? Uh uh.

Andrew Bishop
Oh, they're incredible. Put me on. Put me on. Always been a huge fan of them. And then seeing them live just kind of reignited that.

Brandon Coleman
So I've just been on a lake street dive kick for the last few days. Our listeners, her vocals are just insane. I love that. That organ player, man, when he sings, I mean, they're like. It's like the seventies, modern day seventies music right there.

Andrew Bishop
It is incredible. Especially live. Yeah. Really, really good. Lake street dies.

Brandon Coleman
I got obsessed with, like, trying to do vibrato because I can't do it. Couldn't do it at all. But now I can kind of do it. But she was one of the ones that I would listen to. Trying to figure that out, how to do that with your voice.

Still can't do it that well, but, yeah, try my best. So. So a singer will learn different tricks from other singers, kind of. Or not tricks or just manipulations or ways to perform, kind of. I just learned by listening.

If I listen to lake streak dive or listen to Whelan or whatever I'm listening to long enough, I'll start to kind of mimic that on stage a little bit. So how I sing at whatever show I'm at depends on what I've been listening to for the past few days, I guess. Hmm. Yeah, I think there's something about that, about being in an entertainer you, part of you wants to, especially if you're staying open to things, you're going to be kind of a sponge in a way. You know, you may.

Theo Von
Yeah. If you've been. If you've been absorbing one thing, then the next time you perform there, there could be some. Some of that in. Just in your energy, you know, you want to be kind of a conduit for good energy, you know, and a lot of creativity and music.

Art is good energy, usually. Do you see that in comedy at all? Yep. If you don't watch too many or too much of one guy, you kind of. Oh, yeah, start taking that personality on.

Oh, I'll watch some Chris rock, and I'll go out there and be like, so, yeah, that'll happen. Oh, every comedian, when they started out, like, at my time, everybody sounded just like Mitch Hedberg. Like all the, like, people that were booking clubs, all the bookers were like, yeah, everybody. Just, everybody right now sounds like Mitch Hedberg. It's just because he's so popular right now.

So I think there's a lot of that that happens. Who's some comedic guy who yells, right? He would be like, no, that was. Who am I thinking of? Oh, you're thinking of, he died a long time ago.

Yep. You're thinking of Sam. I like this game. No, it's fun. Sam, don't ruin Kinison.

Brandon Coleman
Yeah, Kenison. That's it. Sam Kenison. That guy was hilarious, too. Well, he had a crazy story with this guy, Carl Labov.

Theo Von
Can you bring this up? So Carl Labov rip to him, too. He passed away. Really funny. Sweet guy.

I never knew Sam or met him, but they had a, one of them had a daughter. Can you bring it up? Let me see. The late comedian Sam Kenison left his friend and fellow comedian quite a belated surprise. Carl Labov says that Sam was the real father of the daughter he thought was his.

Brandon Coleman
Oh, no. We heard about it on the joy Behar show, where Labov said he found out that Sam was the father after Sam died. So, yeah, Carl had raised her her whole life and then found out that Sam was the father. I was definitely. This is with his wife.

Theo Von
Yeah. So I think there was a rumor that the child was conceived while he was on stage one time. Wow. That is some disrespect. Yeah.

I mean, there's craft services, and then there's craft services. I was devastated. Carl said, we're talking about at the same time, a 14 year friendship. We started out together, so we had survived living on the streets. You know what it's like to start on comedy.

I mean, we stole fruit from the bars at night just to eat and slept in my car. And we survived for a very long time. And then with the Rodney Dangerfield special, it changed our lives. And, of course, Sam became huge, and I was a head writer and his best friend. We never lived more than a mile apart.

Andrew Bishop
Wow. Then he slept with his wife. Yep. And he was sleeping with his wife. That's crazy.

Theo Von
Yeah. What does it say happened? You can say best friend and do that. I know. That's what's wild.

So I called my ex to explain to her that I was having a tough time, and that's when she told me that Sam had fathered my child. Wow. Huh. Yeah. That's crazy.

Carla Bove had not been able to legally establish that Sam Kinison was the child's father in court because all the blood tests proved that she was related to the Kinison family. Now with the DNA test, he has definitive proof that Sam was the father. Wow. That had to be so wise. I wonder.

Brandon Coleman
Yeah, I wonder what his thoughts were. It's like, because his best friend died, and so that's normally something you would be mad about, you know, him sleeping with your wife, but at the same time, it's like he left you a little part of himself to raise. Yeah, it's almost a story out of the Bible. Almost. It seems like, you know, in a way.

Theo Von
Yeah, in a way of, like, you know, like, maybe not of the Bible. It's like one of those Aesop's fables or something. Something where you, like, learn, like, a lesson learning story. Because that'd be crazy. You would hate him.

You'd be angry at the wife, but then you'd also have something that you cared about for so long. Be. So did he didn't learn that until the death, right? Way after the death. Yeah, I think.

Till the. Yeah, I think the daughter. You have to look at that child a little different, too. That's not your blood anymore. I know.

I wonder if that starts to happen inside of you. But you also had that connection, like an adopted child. Right. And that probably wouldn't disappear. I think I've seen mixed emotions from different videos.

Brandon Coleman
Like, some men are like, it doesn't matter. That's my kid. I don't care. And then some men are like, well, that's not my kid anymore. I don't know how I'd feel in that situation.

Theo Von
Yeah. One guy I saw was playing hit the roadjack on his phone after he found out. Really? He was, like, pretty excited. Yeah, definitely.

Brandon Coleman
Depends on the man, I guess.

Theo Von
Um. Yeah. What else have I been listening to? Yeah, that. In comedy.

Andrew Bishop
What? Stephen Wilson junior. I listened to Eddie nine Volt. I listened. We got him.

Brandon Coleman
You ever listening for us at a show? Oh, yeah, we do have him. 89 volts. Yeah, bro. They're vibey, man.

Andrew Bishop
Oh, yeah, we. We got a band called the Moss opening for us on the west coast or out of. I think they're out of Salt Lake. They're cool. The mall, it's a little more indie rock.

Yeah, not so much. I don't know if you're into that. You're West coast, aren't you? Yeah. I would listen to some.

Theo Von
I would listen to anything. Yeah. A lot of times I need people to tell me what to listen to. A good one, that they're no longer a band anymore yet. The moss.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah. J. Roddy Walston and the bizzle. Yeah. That's some groovy stuff, too.

Brandon Coleman
That's like some good rock and roll music. Yeah. Yeah. All the albums they put out, that they put out two or three. Oh, I couldn't tell you.

Andrew Bishop
That was. That was. You introduced them to me. J. Roddy Walston in the business, baby.

Theo Von
I like that. That's some cool stuff. I don't know if you ever listen to Alabama Shakes. Yeah. I hate that they're not a band anymore.

Andrew Bishop
That's one that we looked up to. What happened to them? Well, I think there's some. We read some dark stuff about one of the members in the band, and I think that probably led to the downfall. I don't.

They were wonderful. True. That was, though. Yeah. We don't know if.

True. But I think they are a band like we are that started together equal. You know, like, a lot of bands nowadays are built around a star or a singer, and I think they were one that started together and ended up breaking up together. More of a constellation. Yeah.

Theo Von
Wow. Yeah. What happened? In 2018, the band went on hiatus due to Howard's focus on her solo project. Jamie.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah, she's done a bunch of stuff. After that, which led to a solo tour in 2019. Howard released her second solo album in 2024. In June 2020, guitarist Heath Fogg released his debut solo project under the name Sunny of that. But Alabama Shakes was incredible.

Theo Von
And was that all the members of Alabama shakes? What's that? Those people right there. Some of them. That's part of the band.

So some of them, they obviously just. Some of them went their own separate ways. Something must have happened in the window. Or she wanted to do her solo stuff, which is. That sounds like it, man.

That's the scary part, you know? Well, that's what's interesting about the ego. The ego, you don't know how it's gonna grow. It grows like a moss, man. I could see myself doing solo stuff one day, but I'm not gonna quit red clay strays.

Brandon Coleman
You know what I mean? It's. Yes. Hers was more of a quit. Yeah.

Andrew Bishop
Came back to it like that band. Need to breathe, you know, I'm talking about there. That's another one to listen to. Ben knows their, their lead singer does a project called Wilder woods, and he goes, he goes and does Wilder wood stuff, and he still does need to breathe stuff. This is just, if I ever get extra time on my hands and just want to start other projects, I could see myself doing it, but definitely wouldn't need to breathe.

Yeah, they're great. They're there. Brandon actually showed me them, too. That's, I would say, have a pretty similar. We have a similar sound to them, I would say.

Brandon Coleman
I grew up, I grew up listening to them. That's definitely somebody that I started trying to mimic, like learning how to sing. You've got a very powerful, loud voice. And that's how I started singing. Everything was very powerful and very loud and then getting into, I guess, diving deeper into it, starting to learn technique and how to use your voice and stuff.

And then I wanted to learn how to sing like opera singers with vibrato and stuff. So it just depends on who I'm listening to. And would you sing? So after you was rattling around the house, mimicking and learning some, you know, and running your pipes, you know, like, did you start to sing in church or what is that like, like where'd you're singing? Kind of.

Yeah, I started singing. How'd you start to sing? Yeah, where'd you start singing at? Oh, yeah, that was the first place I ever sing in front of a crowd was at church. Yeah, yeah.

I started playing drums in church when I was like twelve. It was a dangerous move, usually. Did they put you in that little shed or whatever behind that thing? No, I hate those things. I do too.

Theo Von
Usually the church always puts that guy back there behind that little square. It depends on the church you go to. You know that Brandon was in there. They're in there. Joking.

Andrew Bishop
It's not contemporary. It's, they're, all the churches are moving that way where they, they want to shield everything and have all of the actual sounds of the instruments coming through the PA system. And it's like, I want to, I want to feel the sound waves, man. I want to go out. Just let the drummer play.

Brandon Coleman
Let the guitar player play. Oh, I want to get hit by a damn drumstick in there. Yeah, then that's how you get into it. I actually had to go to, it was Brandon was playing in the church and John, our drummer, John was playing drums in the church. This was probably four or five years ago, and I grew up in a catholic church and it's, you know, you walk in with a tie on and the organs playing and congregation singing.

Andrew Bishop
I come in there and they are in there throwing down at his church. I thought it was a WWE match. Yeah. And I had to bring John Snare drum. He asked me to bring his drum and I'm like, in shorts.

I didn't know what I was coming to. It was, it's such a, it's a, it's a wild, different environment. But that's why you feel the Holy Spirit moving in a bunch of different ways. So there's a lot of energy in there. Oh, yeah.

Brandon Coleman
That's why I've always liked, I'm pentecostal. Yeah, yeah. I'm more non denominational because I don't really, the Baptist, the Pentecostal, the Catholic, it's. This is all preference based, in my opinion, so. But I do like a pentecostal church because I zone out so easily and I'll lose attention.

And if I got somebody up there screaming at me and, you know, stomping his feet and getting into it like a performance, pretty much it keeps my attention. I love that. And my pastor, he was like 72 at the time, he'd be running across the pews, running over the top of them and just feeling it, man. It's just something that keeps your attention the whole time. Yeah.

Theo Von
Do you think that it's had an effect on how you perform? Kind of, yeah, I'd say so. Now this, the church he's talking about, is what I, where I was going as an adult, the church I grew up in was more of a, still a pentecostal church, but it was more of a smaller building and a lot of older people were there. And just the old country, southern country church, I guess, wasn't a lot of energy until I started playing drums there. Brandon brought the Holy Spirit back in there.

Did that change the vibe in there a little? Yeah, it was literally just, at the time, it was literally just the pastor with no amp or anything, just playing his acoustics, singing hymnals. And then I started playing drums and then they had a keyboard player and that's, I guess I started doing that around when I was like twelve and played, played in there all the way up through high school before I started going on the road and being gone all the time. Yeah, man, that church, especially if you got a church that's got a feeling in it. That's why I remember the first time I went to black churches, man, them things were different.

Brandon Coleman
I've been looking for a good black church. I mean, I see a lot of similarity in, like, the church like Brandon's talking about. They're in there getting down. The preachers up there, you know, really preaching and throwing energy into it. Yeah, the music's bumping and jiving.

Oh, yeah, that's what they do. Yeah, I love that because, well, there's definitely something. There's. I mean, it's. Even if you look at, like, Tony Robbins, he jumps on his, like, trampoline before he goes on stage.

Theo Von
Like, there's something. Get that adrenaline going. Yeah. To get just his, like, I think he says it's to get, like, the lymph in his body, like, basically just to get the. It's like shaking the snow globe, baby.

You know what I'm saying? You want some weather, you just want nothing, you know, so you got to start your own weather. A lot of times, you know, help. On that trampoline, and a lot of. Times, the holy spirit or whatever, that feeling you get.

Brandon Coleman
I feel that a lot on stage, and that's what I project a lot of time singing and just to see that in a pastor, you know, feeling that passion and to make him raise his voice or to make him stomp his foot. Yeah. You know, he's. He's up there in the moment. He's feeling it, and that's.

That just keeps you drawn in the whole time. Yeah, yeah, man, I need to find some good churches that have stuff like that. I thought of south, I think, and just in general with churches, I would. Love to one day maybe end up in a road like that. There's some moments on stage where I feel a little bit like a pastor.

Theo Von
Is that weird to see? Well, I mean, you're up there with a microphone. I wouldn't say so. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't feel like, in the sense that I'm like some, like a spiritual leader, right? No, but I do feel that in a sense, like, oh, I wonder if there's part of me that has this calling a little bit. That's what it is. It's like, a little bit energy goes through me and, like, it's even a moment when it's. When I'm talking about God and in this one bit, and I'm like, wonder, why does this bit stand out to me so much, you know?

Or I wonder if that could be. The holy spirit talking to you. Yeah. At least whispering. At least whispering.

Brandon Coleman
I think God gives you a platform, and it's a constant trade off. God raises you up and gives you a platform, and then you turn around and give it back to God and raise him up, and then he raises you up, and that's just the way I've always looked at it. God gives you talents, he gives you drives to do things and then gives you a platform, and you can either make it about yourself or turn around and give the glory back to God. And it's just that constant trade off that's always going on. Wow.

Theo Von
I never really. Yeah, that's. That's a great way to say that, man. Like it? Yeah, it's like volleying with tennis, kind of.

It's like love. Love, you know? Yeah. Huh. That's fascinating, man.

Do you have a pretty good faith and is it just you that has a pretty strong faith friend? There's a lot of your band members or is it a church going group or. We're definitely not a church going group, but, yeah, we're all pretty faith based. Yeah. Especially the five core of it.

Andrew Bishop
We all come from different religious backgrounds with it, too. Like I said, I'm Catholic. Drew's Methodist. Brandon grew up pentecostal. John, I don't.

I don't know where he came from. Southern Baptist. Southern Baptist, wow. Yeah. So we actually, I mean, we've had.

Theo Von
A lot of portal then. Yeah, yeah. And it's like none of us are, none of us are fighting for to live like a Baptist or to live like a Catholic. Yeah. This is.

Brandon Coleman
We all grew up that way. We have great conversations, though. The goal is to do what God put you here to do. You know, that's. That goes back to not making it about yourself.

It's. Something bigger is going on than just yourself. And so I think that's another big reason why we haven't broken up or anything. Even when we do disagree or get in fights or whatever, it's. The goal doesn't change.

There's still something bigger going on. Yeah, but to get everybody to believe that, that's hard to do, you know, because some people can believe something. You know, two out of five people sometimes be like, yes, this is how I believe and this is how I'm going to behave based on that belief that there is something bigger than us going on. But to really get all five, that's pretty miraculous. Yeah, I think.

Andrew Bishop
And it's not like, I mean, like even our whole road crew are built of, you got christians, we got atheists. It's just like, we have a common goal and it could be something different for that other guy, but we know it's something bigger than ourselves. Yeah. And I know if somebody doesn't believe, it's not my job to save them. You know what I mean?

Brandon Coleman
I'm not gonna. I'm not out trying to preach to anybody or convert anybody or anything like that. I'm simply just singing songs. And if you like it, if you like the message, and if you like what we do, then listen, and I don't care what you believe or anything like that. Yeah.

Theo Von
Oh, I'm not the Lord's EMT. That's what I say. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Brandon Coleman
You can do is pray for them, man. There's power in prayer. Yeah, I'll follow the ambulance, but I ain't the Lord's EMT. You get right behind. Get through traffic.

Andrew Bishop
I used to do that. I tucked behind that thing. Yeah, I would be going to skirt through traffic. He's lead blocking for me. Right through.

Right through rush hour. Amen. I used to love to try to look in that back window and see what they're doing in there. Oh, yeah. They should put on the outside.

Theo Von
What's going on? Oh, well, they. I like how they leave the lights on. You can see them and they're working on somebody. Yeah, it's almost like.

It's almost like, kind of eerie, though. When you see an ambulance with lights but no sirens. Like, oh, that guy's dead in there. More than likely they just drive to the hospital. Well, it's almost like.

Do they say, is it cheaper not to do the sirens? I wonder? At that point, it's like, oh, this guy's dead. Or just run up the bill, this guy's dead. Yeah.

Andrew Bishop
Like, does that siren cost you a little extra? Do they got insurance? You go the whole thing, they're gonna take you out. You ain't got no insurance. You're sitting in traffic.

We'll get you there, buddy, but you're gonna save about 500. They should have a second level of ambulance for people that don't wanna pay the high premiums of regular ambulances. Cause how much does it cost for an ambulance to come get you? Oh, you already had it, dude. With insurance, the average out of pocket cost for an ambulance ride is $450.

Theo Von
So that's like an Uber black from. Probably across town at least. Oh, yeah, that's true. You could probably get from Lebanon to here. 450 black.

Andrew Bishop
Maybe. That's true. I don't know. That's a decent rise. And you might be able to get to Chattanooga and a regular Uber in.

A regular Uber. Yeah, but a long ride. Yeah, they should have that secondary market, like, hey, I don't know. I'm hurt. I don't.

Theo Von
You know, I'm not gonna die. Get me over. You know what I'm saying? Like, get. Maybe.

I think a narcan in the girl in the door. I said, like, uber could do something for you. Uber emergency. Uber emergency brew. Bree, it's a little more expensive.

Andrew Bishop
They'll drive like a maniac. You maybe get a little yellow light or something. Yeah, yeah. Nothing crazy, just something that's like, if somebody who delivers mail in a rural community, they would put that little orange. I don't know.

They got that. They got the minivan. You ever seen them left handed drive minivans? Yeah. Stick you with something, dude.

Theo Von
My mom would deliver newspapers, so she would have that one arm, boy, was just slinging that thing. Would she on a left hand drive. To or was play for the Mets, dude. Nah, she'd keep that window down. She'd be saying something to me, and I'd have to just.

Andrew Bishop
Just watch out every time, brother. And if you do you hear the. Wind come up, hit you. Oh, you missed the cadence, baby. You was full of.

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Did you guys go to college? He did, yeah. I graduated in 2018, so I got out at a good time. Yeah, I started. I'm about playing music right out of high school.

Really? Yeah. He was actually in college a while while we played music. And he'd have to make deals with his professors to, like, come back and take tests and stuff. Cause we'd be out on the road.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah, we. Our first tour, I was like a sophomore, and I went to the. My advisor, and I was like, look, I got. I need two weeks. Like, I'm gonna do it regardless.

Please let me make my workup. Cause I want to go to school. Yeah. And what college was it at? South Alabama University.

Theo Von
USA. USA. Red, white, and blue. South in your mouth. That's what they.

That's their mascot. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. The mascot's a jaguar. Yeah, but it's the same.

Andrew Bishop
The motto is south in your mouth. Yeah. Y'all beat that sec team one. It was Mississippi state. I was on the sideline for that one.

Theo Von
Really? I'll beat state? Yeah. We celebrated like it was the Super bowl. Oh, God.

Andrew Bishop
We came into the house, they missed a field goal to win the game, and we. We rushed the field, like, too early. We had to come back. There was still, like, probably three quarters to play. They missed the field goal.

We out there. We out there celebrating on the logo. It ain't even half time south in your mouth, dude. What is this right here? Oh, british man has the largest penis in the United Kingdom.

That's not a lot of people in that country just to say, yeah, in the US is what almost. This is in the news. What do we got here? About as big as Rhode island. It can be a nightmare.

Theo Von
Is that right? Yes. I think people have, you know, there's a. It's a very insalubrious topic to bring up. So I think people have learned a lot of myths from pornography and stuff.

Brandon Coleman
Where they realize the implications that it. Would have when you're actually living with the situation.

Theo Von
When did you realize that perhaps you had a little bit more than some of your classmates or some of your teammates in the sports team? Classmates. I mean, predictably, it was at school. That's what everyone has. The.

Andrew Bishop
This dude looks like anyone else looks like. Yeah, this guy. First of all, this guy seems like a trap. I bet this guy does not have the biggest wiener. He just is saying that, which is a great thing to say, and then you surprise somebody with a basic wiener.

Theo Von
But the man saying, your classmates, how do you know? Like, when you're like, hey, let me borrow a ruler, and you're like, oh, never mind. Actually, I got under control. Yeah, he. That's a creepy situation.

Andrew Bishop
He looks like a school teacher. Yeah. Why don't you go on the news about that, though? Just. Dude, I think the great point, it's.

Theo Von
A lot of ego right there. UK got going on. Let me take this wiener for a walk. You know I'm gonna be on the news. How'd they find out?

Andrew Bishop
Is he posting about it? He told. Who's he telling? Nobody's emailing the news, like, in the park yesterday, you know, nobody's ever asked. Him to prove it, though.

Brandon Coleman
He's just going off word of mouth. Yeah, that guy should definitely have to show up every year at a certain meetup. Oh, well, never mind. They brought the ruler out, man. That man is posed with a ruler.

Theo Von
Oh, where's he going? Right there. Look at that look. Look at that look on his face. And that bottom one.

Why he won't get size reduction surgery despite all the downsides. See if you can find out what the downsides artists. Look, real quick. Let's see. Because this is something.

Because, yeah, a lot of times this is one of those things where you think a lot of things are going to be great and then they're not the reality of it, you know? I'm just surprised. This is the news over there. What are they doing in the UK? You're going soon, aren't you?

Yeah, we're gonna go over there. This is it, I guess you gotta meet this. You're gonna have to bring him. Talk about yourself. I'm gonna have to bring this guy on stage.

Andrew Bishop
Is it something about Cambridge? Where did he say he was? Yeah. Ben shepherd is his name. Yeah.

Theo Von
Does it say anything that he says is the problems? Oh, to get a reduction of a cost. Yeah, I guess. Your insurance. So does it?

Andrew Bishop
I don't know. Insurance in the UK. I don't know how it works. He could start to go fund me. That's keep the money.

Theo Von
Oh, that'd be the crazy. The money and the wiener. We had a guy that did it gofundme or whatever, and he was supposed to die or whatever, and he didn't die. And people are all pissed when they saw. Yeah, I would imagine.

Andrew Bishop
That's a letdown. That's a scam. Yeah. People were like, what's up, Ron? Thought you.

Where's my $20, man? Yeah, bro. Huh? All right. Pay me back home.

Theo Von
Yeah, let's see that cash. I would hate it. It would be cool. Probably in college, but even then it would be. Listen to us hating on it.

Andrew Bishop
I'd hate it. That's not even fun. Don't want it. I just wouldn't want to be known for that. It almost go back to being like one of those circus guys, you know?

Theo Von
Come see Weiner baby or whatever. Getting paid is getting paid, man. Yeah, I'll come see Mister watch wearer or whatever they call it. That guy's pretty much the new three legged gentleman. That's Franklin.

Andrew Bishop
Teeny, come see the snake lady. That was. I wanted my $1. I paid back after I saw that. I saw Tom Thumb.

Theo Von
World's smallest horse once. It was enjoyable. Was it a small horse? God, it was a dog. I mean, dude, it was this big brother.

Brandon Coleman
You think there's like an inbreeding to make them that size? It looked like it. It looked like it wouldn't go to regular school, I'll say that. Yeah. When I looked in its eyes, but it was this big, man.

You could tell he rode the short trailer. Yeah, the short trailer. It still did. It still stand up on its own a little bit. We out here making fun of that hole.

Theo Von
I thought it was a pig that they glued. That horse. That horse got issues, man. Well, we're bullying that poor horse. Look at him.

Look, man, that horse is on the road. It's probably opening up for a look. What? Look at it for a no humped camel. That horse is doing fine money to see Budweiser horses.

I paid, I think I. Dollar, two dollar, 280. Horses can do it. Why can't people do it? That's a good point.

That's a great point, huh? Yeah, let people take the show on the road, man. Well, that's the thing. We're getting to a point where it's like little things are going to start to start up and a man's going to be, you know, his own little homeless salt bay or whatever and making meats out of his cart. And you have, yeah, everything should, everything's going to have to be financed.

People are having a tough time that everything becomes for sale. Yeah, I mean, everybody's like moving into tiny homes and they're going to start starting these little villages, have a little doctor and a dentist and a makeshift trading station, and we have an end. Of the world plan. And sometimes I just wish it happened. Sounds fun.

You guys have a plan? A little bit. I can't talk about it, can't tell you where we're at, but we all got little jobs already set up. We got land picked out. That's good.

Andrew Bishop
Sometimes this thing, that'd be kind of fun. Well, you'd be a, yeah, at least you would have a skill, too. You'd have a band skill. Oh, we're gonna be hunting. Hunting and gathering.

Theo Von
Yeah. Ain't gonna be more, no more time. For music when he's got native American in him. Yeah. Track, we grow the crops.

Brandon Coleman
Tracking the buffalo, man. We ain't got buffalo in Alabama. You don't know what's going down there? I don't know, dude. I've been outside of some Alabama buffalo.

Theo Von
What, do you guys go on tour with the new band now or it's just your tour now? Like, is there a point where you don't open for other bands? How does that kind of work? It's just our shows now and they keep selling out. So we keep having to move to bigger venues because people are getting pissed about it.

Brandon Coleman
But, um, we are actually open up for the Rolling Stones on May the 30th. So that's gonna be the stones. That one's pretty exciting. Where's that at? It's on Gillette Stadium, Boxborough.

Andrew Bishop
Wow, that's gonna be pretty. That one actually just. Just hit us last week. Mm hmm. So things like that are kind of popping up all the time now.

Brandon Coleman
Yeah, it's pretty cool. Cause Mick Jagger allegedly has to approve all of the openers, so he approved us. I think we get to take a picture with them, too. I'm not sure, but the rules are. We'Re kind of at a point now where we're.

Andrew Bishop
I hate to say too big, but there's a point where you can't open for people, and there's. Now we're in this weird state of trying to get people to open for us. There's a. You got a. It's like a juggling act of figuring that out.

Theo Von
Yeah. What bands are bigger that can open for you? And what bands are we able to open up for? Which really be, like, the Foo Fighters and Chris Stapleton or something at this point. And so we only got to really do it a couple times with.

Andrew Bishop
Especially with Elle. We did a whole tour with her, like, 40 days. She's the only one. She was the first one that took us out like that, and, you know. The only one we've done it with anybody else.

Theo Von
That's awesome. Yeah, her. Her. I saw her perform during COVID here in Nashville. Really?

I haven't been to one of her shows, though. I gotta go check her out. Yeah, she's cool. She's good on a good show. Yeah, people love her.

Was there a moment where you guys kind of felt like, dang, we really got a real shot, like. Or we're kind of making it. Like, what does this look like? Was there, like, one moment where you guys all just maybe walked into a place and sat down, and then you, like, looked at each other and you're like, damn, are we, like, making it? Are we doing it?

Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's a weird thing, but it's a real thing that happens. We have little moments like that, like when we first got on the tour bus and got off, getting driven around in a pre boast, selling out the. We sold out three days at the Ryman in, like, 4 hours.

Brandon Coleman
And that was. That was really cool, too. And those are in September. Is that the ones coming up in September? That was a moment, like, because we had.

Andrew Bishop
We knew we had a good feeling we'd sell one, and then it was like, okay, the second one we got. Throw it up right now, like, within the hour, and it's like, we got a third one. We probably could have done five nights. Then the manager was like, hey, pick an opener right now for a third. Night, and we're doing it.

Brandon Coleman
Okay, let me. Let me see. You know, so that's. We got to throw it up in 30 minutes. I'd say that's a moment.

Andrew Bishop
And we got some big shows coming up this fall that are going to be kind of one of those moments. Like, I don't know specifically, but those rooms are getting bigger. Yeah, yeah. Do you pick openers together like that, as a group? Yeah, we pick all our openers.

We industrial. I mainly let, like, Drew and Andrew. Y'all do a really good job at picking them. Yeah, we just kind of find music we like and send it to the agents and, hey, but they cost. Can we get them?

Brandon Coleman
We have. We have friends, too. Like, uh, Taylor Honeycutt. She's from Montgomery, and she got started about the same time we did. And she's on the up climb as well, so she's actually on one of our rhyming shows.

Theo Von
Taylor Honeycutt. This is great, man. It's gonna give me a lot of good stuff to listen to. Yeah. Oh, belgian man whose body makes its own alcohol.

Cleared of drunk driving. Yeah, this. I've heard about this before. It's a syndrome where your alcoholism.

But it's where your body makes booze. Let me see. A belgian man has been acquitted of drunk driving because he has auto brewery syndrome, a rare condition whereby the body produces alcohol. His lawyer said, wow. People are not born with ABS, but can develop it when they already have another intestine related condition.

Patients can present with symptoms consistent with alcohol intoxication, such as slurts, speech, stumbling, loss in motorcycle. So similar. Yeah, that's not similar. He's just always drunk. That's gotta be crazy, though, if you.

Brandon Coleman
Just to not have to drink anything. But you're always buzzed. Yeah. People are like, how does that happen? Does he have to put, like, fruit juice in and get some.

Andrew Bishop
Some hooch out? I don't know. Like, Randy's burping, y'all. It's gonna be a. Yeah, don't let.

Him drink that apple juice. Yeah, he's. He's peeing. He's peeing liquor at that point. Don't let him drive, man.

Sounds like some european stuff. Auto brewery syndrome, or gut fermentation syndrome, is a condition in which ethanol is produced through the endogenous fermentation by fungi or bacteria in the gas, gastrointestinal system, oral cavity, or urinary system. Dang. So you can make your own that body wine baby. So does that.

Does it come with the. The problem of drinking too much alcohol, too? I don't know. Does he. Are you literally an alcoholic?

Theo Von
I guess. Just by standing around. What happens if it gives blood? Shoot, I don't know. I'll take a pint, though.

Yeah, I'll take two pints. Hook that man up. What else? Any other news we got? I did see they had.

What was that? Oh, they had that. A dog that. Did you see this? It's like.

Look it up. It's a dog. Yeah. Yeah, this is it. Therminator throw flame unveils robot dog.

Therminator with flamethrower attached. The Ohio based $9,400 dog. You can. $9400 Boston dynamics doll. Yeah, dude, that's like Elon musk when you put those flamethrowers.

Andrew Bishop
Except you can have it hooked to a robot. $94. Look at. That's Elon Musk. Get fired.

That's like a nice. That's a decent used car price right there. You could have that. You could have that 2008 Durango out there. What do you need that.

Brandon Coleman
What's the purpose of that dog with a flamethrower? Burn stuff. Yeah. Light a cigarette. Probably burn a.

Burn a trash pile, dude. Or cook up some damn catfish, dude. I'll tell you this. That thing will grill up a tilapia, homie. Man, bro, that thing could be a waiter for that homeless guy with that cart.

Andrew Bishop
We're gonna start seeing some crimes. Like, what if this is that guy. Who, like, just set himself on fire in New York? If he was gonna do that, he could have done it with one of those dogs. Yeah.

Brandon Coleman
Would have been. It made the news probably a little bigger. Yeah, yeah. Would have bad. He was trying to start a revolution, apparently.

Theo Von
Was he? Yeah. You haven't seen that. I didn't see it. I know that it happened.

Brandon Coleman
Yeah. Protests. I know. A man set himself on fire. If you're gonna start a revolution, at least use a robot dog with a flamethrower to do it.

Theo Von
Yeah. Yeah, that's. Are those legal? We're gonna stop seeing drive bys, and it's gonna be people walking. It's 9400 people.

I'll tell you this, you could start some if you get angry at your neighbor, that thing, you could burn someone's home down. Yeah. Just comes out of the garage and. Walks across the street like, oh, shit. Hey, Jim, check out what I got.

Brandon Coleman
Or be petty. Don't even burn the house down. Just burn their bushes down. Yeah. Oh, that would be the worst, bro.

Theo Von
You come out in the morning and your azaleas are gone. Trash their grass. So what do you. What do y'all folks think? Is your lives change?

Has that been interesting, or has it been. I mean, they've. It's been so long. It's just. It's just normal, I guess.

Brandon Coleman
Yeah, it hasn't. I mean, I know it seems like we kind of just come out of nowhere, but we've been doing this for seven or eight years now, so. So they're just part. They've been on the bandwagon the whole time. I mean.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah. My mom really wanted me to finish college because I did. Yeah, I did. I was, like, halfway through sophomore year when this. When I realized I could just do this.

And it was. She really wanted me to finish. She wasn't paying for it either, but. Did you get your degree? Yeah, I got it.

Theo Von
Oh, yeah. I was kind of. It's hanging up. I was kind of blessed in the sense of my parents weren't very hands on as far as that goes. They were like, well, trust God and do what you're gonna do, man.

Brandon Coleman
You know, it's just pray and have a relationship with God and go find your calling. You know? I didn't really have people holding my hand too much or overbearing parents or anything like that, so. Yeah, I could see it being tough, though, as a parent. And that's what your kids getting into, you know, because.

Andrew Bishop
Especially our parents, they were. They grew up in the seventies, eighties. Yeah. Back then it was a lot different. Yeah.

Brandon Coleman
Dude, my dad, for me, my dad works in construction, so I was like, yes. Yeah, a rock star. Go do it. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, it probably is.

Theo Von
I guess that's the two different types of parents. It's either you gotta go with something safe, or are you gonna be like, dude, I've had to do something safer. Won't you get out there and take a swing at it both? Well, what people need to realize is, whatever you wanna do, you have to make that your safe. Make that your safety net.

Brandon Coleman
Like, don't. You can't. You can only go so long with, like, a backup plan or you can't be happy. Yeah, eventually you're gonna just have to dive into it and make that your safety net. Yeah, figure it out.

Theo Von
Yeah, that's a good point, man. Even with, like, comedy, you hear a lot of comics started out sleeping in the back of their cars. I mean, same with musicians sleeping out in their cars to go do another show the next day. And you just gotta send it I. Remember I was in love one time with a girl, and I was like, I tried to stop and do real estate for a while, and I couldn't do real estate real good.

I actually filled out that one of the leases wrong or something and bought the house. No, I had to pay some ladies rent, though. Really? Yeah, I messed up. And during COVID I sold roofs for roofs.

Brandon Coleman
Yeah, there was during 2020, when those three. Two or three hurricanes hit the Gulf coast at once. Oh, yeah. Everybody was down there just selling roofs. And I was working with one of the companies that was owned by one of my friends because he knew, like, COVID had happened, and it was.

Shows weren't very common at the time. So he. He hooked me up with a job. Working with him, I think I sold three or four roofs, and every single roof that I sold, he lost money on. He'd, like, get under there and just find more and more stuff wrong with it.

It ended up being, like, a $40,000 job, and the insurance only covered, like, 20,000 of it. You're like, Brandon, I'm not a good roof seller, man. I'm not a good salesman, period. Because salesman's job is to convince you to buy something, and I'm. My attitude was just like, buy it or not, I don't care.

Like, you know, if you don't want it, no skin off my back. Yeah. There's, like, the opposite of what you're supposed to do. Hurricane jobs are a real thing where we are. It's really true.

Andrew Bishop
Hope for them. Hurricanes. Well, it's so funny. It's like, you kind of like. Yeah, yeah.

Theo Von
So many of my friends work in, like, where they sell the kelp process, like, people's insurance claims and all of that, man. That's what I got during COVID my fiance's dad, is an insurance adjuster, so I was, like, unchained sales, climbing on people's roofs, marking stuff with a. I had no idea I was up there just circling stuff, just drawing whatever. Yeah. I'd sign my name on half of them, just go up there and circle damage and take a picture of it.

Brandon Coleman
Well, what's scary is, like, I would. Hate to be those homeowners. You got this hippie coming and climbing on your roof up there, coloring and drawing. Yeah, he's just writing widespread manic lyrics up there. Yeah.

Andrew Bishop
You need a new roof draw. The wayland symbol. Yeah. Have you guys gotten to meet widespread? No.

No. I mean, we. Listen. I wouldn't say we're the biggest fans, but, I mean, I think everybody's listening to them at this point. Yeah.

Theo Von
Yeah. It's just something you don't hear a lot of people get to meet. It's just they're kind of like one of those interesting groups, you know? It's like, we played with Eric Church. Didn't meet him.

Andrew Bishop
He sent a bottle of whiskey with a note, but we know we didn't meet the guy. I think it's because he would literally fly in and play the show and fly out. I think that's how a lot of those really, really big guys are. Yeah. Come in, get business done in their own.

Brandon Coleman
I went to. I went to Eric's house. Oh, yeah. With them. Yeah.

And wrote a song. Me and Matthew and Drew wrote a song with them. How do you something like that get set up? I have no idea. I think.

I think one of them booking agents. Reached out to probably. Yeah, I think it got set up through the managers, and I don't really know. I can't remember how that went about if he reached out to us or if we reached out to him, or. They'Re like, write up.

Theo Von
Like, are there writing sessions that you have scheduled coming up? Kind of thing that, or is that just like, once in a while sort of thing? How does like. Because you guys have a new album, so you won't be writing for a while, or you just kind of write as you go. Me, Drew, and Matthew make a yearly trip up here in January after the new year, and that's.

Brandon Coleman
We usually stay up here for a week and do a bunch of writing, and we're trying to do that more often now, but, yeah, well, sometimes we'll meet people, too, and just get a co write scheduled. A lot of times, though, when we write our. Our stuff of our own, it happens when we're at home. It's very hard to write and make music when you're touring all the time. Yeah.

Andrew Bishop
Most of our songs come from with, you know, Brandon, Drew, and Matthew writing rather than from a co write somewhere. Yeah, it's just kind of how it happens. That's how it happens, man. We play all the new records at the lab shows, pretty much. Oh, sweet.

Theo Von
Sweet. That's how we test them out and. Yeah, and so the feedback, the response has been good. That's how we even do it. Before we even go in the studio, we just start playing stuff if the crowd, if we don't feel a good response, and we kind of go back and change a couple things, and they kind of grow with us on the road and we get.

Andrew Bishop
I mean, it's like, it's quick feedback. You're constantly in a space where you can. Yeah, we can test. Yeah, yeah. That's pretty awesome, huh?

Brandon Coleman
Yeah, it was like going out and trying jokes, the crowd, see if it laughs or not. Yeah, no, it's. That is one nice thing about having shows where you're just kind of cruising along and you're working and you're writing at the same time. Cause I learn a lot of times in the moment up on stage, you know, I think it's. You can write it, but it's.

Theo Von
Yeah, after a while, you kind of know your voice, too, and you know what will kind of roll for you. I think that's what you can. That's what you can't get. And I'm not knocking anybody who does, like, the voice or American Idol, because if that's your way, if that's the path you want to take, then cool. But you can't skip the road dogging it.

Brandon Coleman
You can't skip playing in front of a crowd or playing in front of empty rooms. No matter if you win a tv show or not, you're still going to have to acquire that experience. Or it's just you're going to have a hard time navigating, trying to figure out how to work a crowd or figure out what works and what doesn't work. Yeah, it's a good point. I would hate to have gotten to had a chance to have a larger crowd and not known.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah. I mean, even then, it's still tough sometimes, because it's still. You're in front of a huge group of people. I mean, you see all the time, like, entertainers have problems with people throwing them out. We've had to throw people out of shows or people throwing stuff at, like, Nicki Minaj gets something thrown at her every other week, it looks like.

Brandon Coleman
I don't understand that. Yeah, me neither. But it's like, there's always gonna be that element that you're in alive space. Yep. But to not have had the reps of, like, I know how to be.

Andrew Bishop
Here, it gives you some confidence, too. Yeah, but, yeah, I couldn't imagine, especially a comedian like you're saying that just gets thrown out to the wolves. You're here sort of an arena. Good luck. But a lot of those guys off Kiltonial, they have to do that.

Theo Von
That's a good point. They go from a minute to. I don't know what you get as an opener. Well, they get a couple more minutes. Yeah.

That's the goal. I remember, when you got to, they usually start you with three minutes as. A, as a, like, first opener. Yeah. Comedian with three minutes.

Like, when you're first starting out, they're like, okay, you're on a show. It's like, you're gonna do three minutes. Wow. And you're like, okay, can I get through three minutes? And if you have to get down early, you're just like, I'm done.

And like, well, you weren't, but, okay, come on back here. You know, and then you try to get up to five. And when you really start feeling like you're rocking as a comedian is when. You get to, like, that 15 mark. Yeah, I could see that.

Andrew Bishop
You got a little time to get uncomfortable. You're like, I might go on the road. You might start saying shit like that to people. And people are like, you're out of your mind. Do you work, you work at Dairy Queen?

Yeah. You're out of your mind. I got a 15 minutes set, man. You don't know. Yeah, I'm going to.

Theo Von
I'm out of here. Yeah. And you just start yelling at people while you're trying to throw that trash into the bin at night behind the. Testing it out on the, on the homeless people still hanging around outside. Yeah.

And then that's when it gets like, that's when you can kind of go on the row with somebody. But then there's those moments where you get stranded. You burned all your 15 in ten minutes. It was a bad show. And you still have to kill five minutes.

Andrew Bishop
Oh, we've, we've had shows where you just want it to be over. Yeah. What is it? Sometimes it's the energy of a room. It's just.

Theo Von
The night just is what it is. I mean, we had one recent. Sometimes it's just from being tired. Like we're trying to thing now where no more than four shows a week and no more than three in a row. Yep.

Brandon Coleman
Because by that third show, and we've had five shows in a row, and it's like, by that, by that third show, you usually you need a break, and at the end of the day, you're taken away from the crowd anyway. Because if you're up there tired and too tired to give it your all, then you know you're selling your crowd short. Yeah. You just kind of go into the motions. But, I mean, we've done that, and people at the show's like, that's the best show I've ever seen.

Andrew Bishop
Sometimes we're sorry. Sometimes it's like tortuga though, where it's like everybody's vibe into a completely different style of music than we play. And then we show up just playing rock and roll, and the crowd's just like, bring back the bring back. It's like they were like, doing. It's like a bro country or pop country, and then we're in the middle of it, and we don't even consider ourselves country.

It's just like we ruined everybody's beach party. Yeah, they're out there. They want songs about getting drunk and. Oh, I could see that kind of. You guys are kind of in a little bit.

Theo Von
Not your own space, but what is it? I don't. I don't know. We just do what we want, I guess. We call it non dom rock.

Yeah, I like that. Non denominational rock and roll. It's just like. I like that all over the place. Everybody's at that beach, and then we're like, here's one about mental health.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah, enjoy. If you know somebody strays, though, that's kind of strays. That's what straight strays do, man. Yeah, we. That part came from just kind of being.

I wouldn't say outcast, but we were always a little different from the crowds we grew up in. Didn't quite fit in. I went to private school. I didn't fit in with a lot of those kids. I didn't really put that together, too.

Brandon Coleman
Yeah, we are kind of straying from the. From the norm. From the norm. Musically, a lot of people don't really know how. Where to put us.

Theo Von
Well, there's some riffs in there sometimes. I feel like some of it has an Aerosmith kind of. It's interesting. I'll go through different moments where I feel different things, you know? Mm hmm.

Yeah. It's just. I mean, we don't. When we write and are making music, we don't try to sound like anybody or. I mean, we just do what we think sounds cool.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah, I think that's really cool. To find your own little niche. Yeah. Well, look, I think it's just a testament to. But to be able to figure out what works for five guys at once, it's pretty remarkable, you know?

Theo Von
Cause you really have. You have five inputs, even though you have only three or four guys contribute. Maybe on the songwriting edge, but we. Still all work it up together. Yeah, we all create the song, but.

Brandon Coleman
Then, yeah, it just goes back to not being able to skip that step. Playing in front of crowds together as a band and road dogging it and everything that comes along with all of that. It's. That's where you start to figure out how each other plays or what each other is about to do. It's kind of like.

What is it? Telekinetic? Telekinesis. Telekinesis. Telekinetic.

Andrew Bishop
No, it's not. What's the word we're looking for? Telepathic women all get on the same menstrual cycle or whatever. Like on a volleyball team. We definitely have that.

Theo Von
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, we're on the same musical cycle. I like that, man. Any, any unique things that have happened out on the road?

Any wildcat? Any. Oh, man, we got stories for days. Anything that really shook you out there. Being recent or just in general back in the day?

Andrew Bishop
We've had bus fires, we've blown. We did a whole transmission swap ourselves in Colorado. No way. We bought another bus. We, uh, we were going through, uh, Colorado.

Brandon Coleman
I think I 70 had washed out. Yeah, I 70 was washed out. So we had to go the fair play up through where south park is and it's like 13,000ft and we had to go the back way to get to grand junction. We were going up the side of this mountain and I was laying in my bum. I was driving.

I hear like Andrew screaming. I had my headphones in and I hear him screaming. Like we just blew the transmission out and like we're literally on the side of a mountain. Yeah, it's. It's 90 degrees straight down.

Andrew Bishop
90 degrees straight up two lane road. And right there, like right against the side of it with rocks and there's a falling rock sign and drew like steps out of the bus and hits some gravel and immediately falls down. Just tests. He wakes, he gets up and starts putting the bus. We're all just.

I just knew it was happening. We're just going. And when you get up that high with our diesel especially, you lose, you know the math. You lose, what, 3% for every thousand feet or so? Of what?

Theo Von
Brain power or whatever. Our brain power, you know, for the motor. Oh, like if the air so thin the motor has to work harder. Probably some brain power. Yeah, we're definitely losing some brain power.

Andrew Bishop
I'm not good with altitude. I've had some bad times, but. And how'd you get that thing back down? You did a tow truck? Yeah, we had a.

Brandon Coleman
We had to get a semi truck. Yeah. Loaded the bus up and our trailer. Like a $5,000 tow to the stage. A state trooper gave us a ride as well out of the goodness of his heart and.

Yeah. Buena Vista, Colorado. And there was like one hotel room left in that whole town because I was calling and calling and calling while we were waiting on the tow truck and finally got it. And we all piled up in that one hotel room like, well, what are we going to do, me and Andrew? So we had the bus dropped off at a transmission shop in town and it was probably a good 4 miles away.

And we got up the next morning right before the sun come up and just start walking towards it. And we're like 10,000ft. I mean, we aren't getting sea level men. We ain't built for that. We finally make it to the transmission shop and he's like, man, I'm two months backed up.

Get this thing out of here. I can't work on this. Oh. And so we're walking back to the hotel wondering what we're gonna do. And we've been in that situation before and.

Andrew Bishop
Cause I mean, we've had to roll up the shops like, hey, we ain't leaving. You gonna fix it or we stay in here with you. And it's not like we just, like, we just have to throw money at people. Like just work on it. We'll pay you, whatever.

And he's not having it. Damn. He's like, sorry. Isn't that where the shining is, where the hotel is? Buena Vista?

I don't think so. This is not a very nice, I mean, it's beautiful, but it's not a big town like where that big hotel would be. Okay, Ben might have to pull that one up. I'm not sure where that's at. Yeah, see where that's at, man.

It is up in the mountains somewhere though. Is that Montana? That's in Oregon, man. Dude, that place is in England. No, the interiors were filmed.

Theo Von
No, the shining. Yeah, the interior. The real overlook hotel maybe. Mm hmm. You know, we got good godly woman in the sequel to the shining.

Brandon Coleman
Yeah, for like 2 seconds. Oh yeah, yeah. Doctor sleep. But continue. What we're talking about was we started having to, we started walking back just like, what do we do?

Andrew Bishop
And we have to start. Me and Brandon's hitchhiking to this town in Colorado. Literally walking out with a thumb. Yeah, this old guy on the jeep picks us up and he gave us a ride to the hotel. We were just like, we have to do something.

Theo Von
Damn. We've been picked up by strangers a bunch of times. He dropped us off and he's like, hey, there's a white water rafting company that sells buses like the one you're talking about maybe hit them up, see if that you can buy a bus from them. And we were like, yeah, whatever. Thank you.

Brandon Coleman
Still tried to find someone to rebuild the transmission, and the closest person that would was in Denver. It's like 3 hours away. He said, if you pull it and bring it to me, I'll build it for you. And so before we resorted to that, we had rented a U Haul van and went and talked to that company that. The white water rafting company.

And he had a bus just like ours that had a freshly rebuilt transmission in it. He put like 30 miles on it and parked it. Cause he bought a school bus. They used the buses to bus people out to the river to Whitewater raft. And he said he'd sell us the bus for three grand.

And then he figured out we were a band. And he's like, if y'all play a show for us, I'll knock a grand off the price. No way. We were here for like four days. And the places.

Andrew Bishop
So they do that white water rafting. All these teenagers come to be the gods. Like a bunch of river rats come in and they. You know those campers on the back of a pickup truck? Yeah, they.

It's a field full of them. And that's laying on the ground. That's where these kids are living in those. Yeah, the grass is all grown up around them, and there's. They don't have power.

Theo Von
So just the ground and then the. Camper top and the camper shop. And it's like. It's like a trailer park of them. They're everywhere.

But it's not a full trailer. It's just the little. It's just that little, isn't it? What do you mean? Yeah, I mean.

Andrew Bishop
Well, you. I think you can stand up in them, but have like, that little. The part in the top you can sleep in. Here's what I'm picking a picture in, like, a pickup truck. And then that thing that goes on the back.

That goes on the bed. Yeah. Like sits down on the. It goes on the bed and kind of goes over the cab. Oh, no, not that.

Theo Von
I'm just thinking of the one that just goes. That's even. Oh, you're thinking of a camper shell. No, this is like. It's like a motor home.

Well, now we know what you're talking about. Yeah. With the piece that goes over the top. And they're all window unit in them sometimes. And these are straight hippies.

And there's no trucks. Just those. Just those. And the grass is all grown over top. They're living in them.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah, yeah, it's like those. Not as nice. Like that one on the top, right? Yeah, 100%. No, left.

Theo Von
That was too big, that one. It's a bunch of those. And these kids are straight up, real life hippies. Like, straight up. We were playing.

Andrew Bishop
We set up and played for them, and they were dancing in between songs kind of thing. It's all grab. It's all dusty in here. In the rafting building. Yeah.

They probably 30 or 40 of these kids. Yeah, I say kids. They're probably in their late teens, early twenties. It was. It was in the big building where they keep all the boats.

Brandon Coleman
And we sat up in there, and it was like a gravel floor. And just the dust from them, like, scoop shuffling. Shuffling. That hippie shuffle. Dude, that's incredible.

Theo Von
And that was, uh. Yeah, look up. See what rafting company that was. That's white water rafting. Yeah, we can.

Andrew Bishop
I mean, there's a couple. It's in Buena Vista. Some white water, something. So then you guys take off in that new bus. Well, we get the tow truck to drop our bus off next to the one we just purchased, and then we just start taking them apart.

Brandon Coleman
And we took the transmission out of ours, took the transmission out of the other one, and swapped them around. And I did something wrong in the process. I didn't put the torque converter all the way in, and so we bolted it up and bent a pump gear and had to pull it back out and take it to that original transmission shop. And we pulled one of the. What he was talking about, like, hey, we need you to fix this.

We ain't leaving. He ended up having a soft spot. He actually helped us out big time. He took it apart and straightened out what I had accidentally bent and put it back together, and then we got it back in there. A two day job turned into, like, a five day job, and it was miserable.

Andrew Bishop
But while, like, Brandon and a couple of the. And this is just the five of us on the road together, they would be working on dropping the transmission or getting the other one ready. Me and Zach would be just ripping every part we could get our hands on on this bus. You don't see these buses ever in, like, a pull apart. Usually somebody will take them.

It's a seven three diesel. Those never show up. So we're getting every part you could put a hand on. Snatching it out. We took out, like, the turbo.

We took the back Ac unit. We took the driver's chair, the. Took the. The steering, the. The steering box underneath it.

That thing would never drive ever again in its life. We just straight pull apart. Somebody asked if they could have it. We were like, yeah, you can. He was like, we'll just drive.

Yeah. He said, steer it over here, and I'll pull. I was like, you ain't steering nothing. So we straight left it. You're like, we took the steering.

We took everything that thing was. We took the bumper. We swapped the bumpers. Everything. I took the tail lights, but we, um.

We got it put back, our bus, put back together with all these other parts and got down to Mississippi. So you guys had to miss some shows in, or you had a little break? I think we missed one show. Did we? I don't know if we did.

Brandon Coleman
We missed the. Where were we hitting? Mississippi? No, we were heading somewhere else. Oh, grand junction.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah. We missed the last Colorado show, but we had four days off, so we. We made it. We just buckled up and drove. Wow.

Yeah, that was a. That was a time in our lives that was looking back. It was fun in the moment. It was. I think it was that.

American adventure expeditions looks familiar. Yeah, we went stop somewhere. That's a good whitewater raft. And it was in Tennessee. Those over near Chattanooga.

Brandon Coleman
I've never done it before. It looks fun. They didn't. It's nice. They didn't take us out.

Theo Von
You think that had been part of the deal? But there's. There's your bus. Oh, man, that's it. I mean, that's.

Brandon Coleman
That's. That's the town. That's where we were trapped for four days. It was beautiful. Looks like.

Andrew Bishop
Oh, yeah. But we were underneath that thing, bench pressing this transmission, and this dude comes by, and he. He crawls up under there with us. Hippie. Yeah.

Brandon Coleman
Like, touching. He's like, let me touch everybody. Get his hands on us. Eliza Thornberry's mustache. We're having a moment right now.

Andrew Bishop
It's like, yeah, man, we're having a moment this whole week. Thank you. Then he offered us some drugs. He's like, man, y'all like to party? Like, yeah, we like to party.

He's like, man, I got ketamine. I got cocaine. I've got. I've got all sorts of stuff. We're like, no, man.

Brandon Coleman
We're. We're good. We're gonna bench press this transmission. He wasn't really good at reading the room just covered in grease, trying to put a bus back together. I ain't doing no cocaine with a.

Theo Von
Someone who's super homeless. Oh, yeah. These are. And you know it was someone is. I don't know.

Yeah. I'll see where you're not living at. Let's party. Let's walk back to my camper. We'll hang out.

But if somebody's super homeless, dude, I'm out. That could have been it, too. That looks pretty familiar. It was. What was across.

Andrew Bishop
There was two of them across the street from each other. Yeah. There was a domino's down the street. That's all we had to eat. Oh, yeah.

They're always next to a mechanic shop. They shared a driveway because they guys sleep at where? There. The hotel was right in front of the rafting place. I think that last night we had to sleep on the bus.

Yeah. We, as it were, still blocked up. Just. We opened the windows and camped out in it, man. Just like the hippies.

Theo Von
Hell, yeah. And that was when you. Was that. That's when you're like, oh, now I see where that guy was coming from. Yeah, it was.

Andrew Bishop
That was a. That was a tough time. Yeah. Domino's. Yes.

And I think it was. It's the one across. It's the adventure company. Yeah. That's who you guys are, man.

Theo Von
Y'all are the company. You guys have been on a lot of adventures, man. I got a good rain. That's a raft. That's.

Andrew Bishop
Look at this. There's that building. Go up one. Ben. That one.

Theo Von
No. Y'all play. No doubt. Rafter. That one.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah, we played in that raft right there. Amen. That's where we set up. They were still rafts hanging around. People were hanging out at them, watching the shows.

It's kind of cool, bro. That's unreal looking. We'll have to get in contact with those folks. Dude, if you guys went back through there at some point, probably. That bus is probably still laying where we left it.

Brandon Coleman
Go check on that bus. Yeah. Amen. Man, they hate that. The mechanic shop next door, they hated each other.

Theo Von
But you guys were kind of like the bridge between them that time. Yeah, except we left that. That bus. That mechanic said he was gonna go get it. I bet he never went and got it.

Andrew Bishop
He's probably still sitting in the same place. Any stray animals you pick up out there? Speaking of the strays. No, not really. Trying to think we've hit some animals.

Theo Von
Amen. We did. And rip. Sorry. But, hey, look, sometimes the Lord uses you and your vehicle to bring an animal home.

Brandon Coleman
Exactly. It's good for the population. Let's just respond somewhere. Yeah. Dude, I'm so excited about the new album.

Theo Von
When will it come out? Do we know yet? We're thinking late summer. Yeah. Hopefully around August time.

Andrew Bishop
It's about to start picking back up again. I think everybody's gonna really like it. I'm amazed that you guys aren't even impressed with yourselves yet. One of those things, you kind of can't take it for granted. It can be taken from you tomorrow, you know?

Brandon Coleman
Yeah. It's like we could scanner this thing and dying plane crash. Hopefully not. People get popular too, and they're popular for however long and then time goes by and then nobody knows who they are anymore. That could very well be us, you know, it's.

Yeah, who knows? Just try to be thankful for it and never want to be, like, complacent, I guess. Always want to be trying to get better and just be a better person, put on a better show and be a better band. Make better music. Just keep.

Never stop growing, you know? Yeah. Well, the rest of us are impressed, man. I'll say that, dude. Good deal.

Andrew Bishop
There's a lot better music out. Sure. Thank you guys so much for making good tunes and. Yeah, excited to hear the new album. Do we even know a name of it yet or.

Give it to him, Brandon, huh? Just give it to him. All right. The album's gonna be called made by these moments and it's got. It's got a good message to it.

Brandon Coleman
I'm excited. That's what I'm excited for people to hear the music, but it's just got a good message as well, so it's gonna be cool. No, we've never told anybody that publicly, so. Nope. Nice.

You heard it here first. I'm sure you'll email me tomorrow and ask me to take it out, but that's all right. No, we don't take it here, buddy. We make the calls. Oh, man, calls.

Theo Von
Yeah. Well, thank. Yeah, thanks for sharing that. Made by these moments, man. Yeah, it's a lot of what life is, man, you know, making them good ones, too.

Andrew Bishop
That's. I mean, that's what it stands for, for us. All those stories we were just talking about is while we're here, so. Means a lot to us. Amen.

Theo Von
Red clay strays, boys. Thank you guys so much, man. I appreciate it. Thank you guys for coming and just chatting and spending time. Good to get to know you guys a little bit and, yeah, I look forward to coming out and being able to catch another show soon.

Andrew Bishop
Yeah, you just let us know. We always got a spot on the. List for you, gang, baby. You guys stay healthy out there, man. You too, man.

Theo Von
Thank you. Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone oh, but. When I reach that ground I'll share this piece of mind I found I. Can feel it in my bones but it's gonna take a little.

Andrew Bishop
Can feel it in my bones but it's gonna take a little.

Brandon Coleman
Can feel it in my bones but it's gonna take a little.

Andrew Bishop
Can feel it in my bones but it's gonna take a little.

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