Violent Protests Over "Killer Kamala" and Free Abortions at DNC, with Tom Bevan, Carl Cannon, Andrew Walworth, John Kass, and Estee Palti | Ep. 864

This episode focuses on the intense protests occurring during the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, particularly those against Vice President Kamala Harris, alongside discussions on the DNC's decisions regarding free abortions.

1. The DNC is under scrutiny for its decision to provide free abortions and vasectomies, highlighting a shift from traditional Democratic values to more radical approaches.
2. The episode captures the divisive and heated atmosphere of the DNC, with protests challenging the DNC's stance on abortion and criticizing Vice President Harris.
3. Discussions explore how the DNC's actions might impact swing state voters, questioning if the party's progressive moves are alienating or solidifying their base.
4. The panelists debate the effectiveness and morality of the DNC's strategy, especially in how it presents these controversial policies to the public.
5. Insight into the media's portrayal of these events and their potential influence on public opinion is discussed, underlining the role of media in political campaigns.

1: Opening Remarks

Megyn Kelly sets the stage for the discussion, highlighting the chaotic scenes outside the DNC, where protests are intense and polarized. Megyn Kelly: "Welcome to the DNC week, where protests and political drama unfold on the streets of Chicago."

2: Analyzing DNC's Strategy

The panel discusses the DNC's controversial decision to provide free abortions, diving into its potential impact on voter perception and its alignment with Democratic values. Tom Bevan: "Discussing the implications of DNC's abortion strategy on swing state voters."

3: Protest Dynamics

Exploration of the different groups protesting, their messages, and the city's response, highlighting the complexity of the political and social landscape. Carl Cannon: "The protesters are not monolithic; their diverse agendas reflect broader societal divisions."

4: Media and Public Perception

Discussion on how the media's portrayal of the DNC and the protests might influence public opinion and voter behavior in upcoming elections. Andrew Walworth: "Media narratives play a crucial role in shaping public perception during such politically charged events."

5: Closing Thoughts

The episode wraps up with reflections on the long-term effects of the DNC's strategies and the ongoing protests, considering future political landscapes. John Kass: "We need to think about how today's political decisions will impact the future political and social climate."

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Megyn Kelly is joined by Tom Bevan, Carl Cannon, and Andrew Walworth of RealClearPolitics to discuss the latest from the Democratic National Convention, the violent anti-Israel protesters, the absurdity of the protesters wearing abortion pill costumes, free abortions and vasectomies outside the DNC, a "land acknowledgment" kicking off the DNC, what to expect in President Biden’s speech tonight, how there is continued resentment from Biden and his supporters about how the the Democratic elite pushed him out as the nominee, Harris’ new economic policy banning "price gouging," the backlash that she has received, the truth about inflation and the current state of the economy, and more. Then John Kass of John Kass News joins to discuss the violent anti-Israel protesters hoping to “shut down the DNC" and targeting "Killer Kamala," the ridiculous Chicago mayor and Illinois governor, the hypocrisy of the “joy” at the DNC in Chicago as violence continues, the skyrocketing crime rates in Chicago, and more. Then Kamala impersonator Estee Palti joins to discuss how she went viral on TikTok impersonating Harris, the absurdity of the way Harris talks and her total lack of authenticity, the keys to the impression including the laugh and the repeated phrases that don't mean anything, why the left doesn't want to make fun of Harris, and more. Plus, Megyn pays tribute to legendary broadcaster and her friend Phil Donahue.

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Megyn Kelly
Welcome to the Megyn KelLY SHow live on SiriusXM channel 111. Every weekday at noon East hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show. It's Monday of the democratic National Convention Week, and in Chicago, local businesses are boarded up. Activists are handing out abortion medication and protesters are chanting welcome to hell Week as they run around dressed as little abortion pills.

Those are two different groups of protesters. Yes.

The democratic national convention is officially underway tonight. President Joe Biden takes to the stage for his, I don't know, this is like his address before they put him on Mount Rushmore.

Amy.

I mean, Nancy Pelosi says he's going to go, he should go out there. Should be the fifth. She's not arguing they should take Teddy Roosevelt down, but they should add Joe Biden. Meanwhile, he and she are not on speaking terms. According to the reporting, Senator Amy Klobuchar assures us that there will be tears of joy, joy. They'll be crying. There'll be tears of joy shed for Joe Biden and hugs all around.

Less than a month after he was unceremoniously ousted in what even Maureen dowd of the New York Times called a coup.

But activists are not waiting for anyone to take to the stage to show their anger. They're already on the streets. It's actually quite interesting because you've got the groups of people who really, really, really don't like Israel and in many cases jews out there protesting. And they're like working with the mayor.

We'll spew all of our hatred in an organized way with the city microphones and stages. And then you've got this other group that's like, f, them. We want to be punched in the face by cops so we can go out and show everybody people need to get hurt in order for us to make a difference. So it's, it's starting. Well, there are these groups on the streets in the faces of Chicago cops saying, if you pigs, nice warning. DNC leaders either go home, if you if you don't go home, we're going to bring the war home. Watch.

Speaker
Biggie go back home.

Megyn Kelly
I will bring the war home.

Stupid fucking pig. Your face looks fucked up, pig. Fuck you, pige. Fucked up bitch. I hate you.

Speaker
God, you are safe.

Megyn Kelly
Fucking pathetic. Get a child and I hope you.

Speaker
Have nightmares about the people in Chicago.

Megyn Kelly
From the fucking loser.

And I know you're getting okay just for the listening audience, that guy getting up in the face of this very calm, restrained cop was obviously a man wearing a cafe, covering his head with breasts, speaking in his man voice, calling the cop a loser and telling the cop to get a job.

Sweetheart, you might need a moment, you might need some time by yourself to do some life reflection, come come to grips with where things landed for you. Those moments we just showed you, courtesy of Julio Rosa set the blaze and Tim pools team on the scene as well. Axios is reporting democratic lawmakers were warned not to book hotel rooms in their own names and not to confront the protesters. Apparently, the protesters have been calling the hotels, looking for various democratic lawmakers. So that's nice. I'm sure they're feeling great because unlike, you know, this, the president, the vice president, they don't travel around with teams of security, the lowly congressmen and women. We took a deeper dive into one of the groups expected at the convention, not sure if the man with the boobs calling the cop the loser and to get a job is part, you know, trying to figure out which faction of protesters he's with.

There's one that's really nasty and then there's one that's just medium nasty.

In any event, we took a deeper dive into one of the groups expected at the convention. And they question in one of their online pamphlets, why do people in the US have the right to prioritize their own safety?

This group shared this scene online today from nearby the DNC.

It shows young boys being given bloody shoes by an activist and then throwing them at pictures of Vice President Harris, President Biden, Donald Trump and others.

And while the threatening chance are disgusting, so are scenes of marches like this. Young women right down the road dressed up as abortion pills.

I'm sorry, this is so absurd.

Oh, my God. They're wearing little pills that read mythopisto.

You can't make it up. They're big white, big white circles for the listening audience. They look like eggs.

And their chant is f the courts, f the state. You can't make us procreate. I have a feeling it's not going to be an issue for you ladies, I think you're good.

The abstinence program has worked for some over the years. Good luck with that. So is all of this going to turn off swing state voters, most of whom are pretty normal, or is it all just baked in the cake now for democrats? I mean, there's no one I want to talk more to about the abortion pill costumes than the guys from real clear politics that when I listen to their show, I think this is something they need to weigh in on. Their website's a must read destination, and I love their show. They're on SiriusXM, a neighbor to yours truly as well. Tom Bevin is the co founder and president of RCP. Carl Cannon is Washington bureau chief and Andrew Walworth is chief content officer.

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Andrew Walworth
Andrew well, you know, I tell you, we arrived last night and we were on, we're right off Michigan Avenue and we did see a bunch of protesters. And the police, I will tell you, the police presence outnumbered the protesters about three to one in this one demonstration, and the demonstration seemed fairly contained.

But I do think what's interesting about these two competing protest narratives is the sort of Planned Parenthood, and there's going to be an inflatable IUD that's 18ft tall. Apparently that's all actually in support of Kamala Harris.

But in contrast, as you pointed out, the anti Israel or pro palestinian protests are really sort of against her.

I sort of competing narratives. I mean, there are two sort of issues that seem to have galvanized the protests here. One is pro what Kamala Harris is doing and what she represents anti Trump and the other one is anti Kamala Harris and obviously anti Trump as well.

Megyn Kelly
I mean, it'll make for an interesting week.

Who is that supposed to appeal to? An 18 foot IUD only makes women around the world shudder. No one wants to even think about that.

Meanwhile, down the road, this is ones for you, Tom Bevin. Down the road at the DNC, they're giving away free abortions. Free abortion pills and free vasectomies, my friend. So don't think all the fun is for the ladies, because if you men had something you forgot to take care of, you can put an end to it. Right down the street from where Kamala Harris accepts the nomination on the stage Thursday night.

Tom Bevin
Yeah, we're actually going to send somebody down there to talk to one of these people that's standing in line to get a vasectomy and just to understand exactly what's going on. They said there's a. Wait for this.

Megyn Kelly
Is it gonna be Phil? Please let it be Phil.

Tom Bevin
Now, Phil's gonna be, I think, over at the United center, but we're gonna try and track down just. I mean, it's fascinating, right? Wouldn't you wanna know and hear from one of these people who's standing in line to get a vasectomy at the, at the Democratic National Convention, sponsored, by the way, in conjunction with the Wiener circle? I mean, you really can't even make this stuff up.

Megyn Kelly
No. What? Seriously?

Tom Bevin
Seriously.

It's a hot dog place, Chicago.

Megyn Kelly
You can only get a bit of hot dogs.

Andrew Walworth
You can only get the vasectomy on Monday. Apparently, that's the only day they're offering. But you can get the morning after pill and the other stuff all throughout the convention. So if you're planning on coming down for your vasectomy, you've got to come today.

Megyn Kelly
That's all very consistent with the Democrats abortion plan in general. All the time. All the time is fine. Yeah, there's no limits whatsoever. Please get the abortion on demand. You can do it street side. You can do it in the privacy of your home.

Speaker
You get.

Megyn Kelly
The one thing you can't do is pray outside of an abortion clinic, but you can get the actual abortion. It's kind of crazy, honestly. Like, I, you know, when I was younger, and I've said this on the show, I was liberal, I was Democrat. I was a Democrat, and I was raised in a Democrat household. And I look around at this party and these open celebrations of, like, whether you're pro abortion or not pro abortion. There's no question you're taking a life. The promise of a life to be most charitable to the pro choice side.

How do you celebrate that in the street? How do you like, yay, I'm going to dress up as the little thing that will kill the baby. So fun. Yay, I kill babies. Here I am. That's insane to me, Carl. I look at this party and I think isn't the name of the game at this point about getting those moderates in the seven swing states?

Carl Cannon
Well, Bill Clinton certainly thought so when he spoke here in 1996 while running for election. And he emphasized to the country, to the delegates, the press, that he thought abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. That was the term of art.

By the time Hillary Clinton ran for president against Barack Obamas in the primaries. And if you said that youd be booed. So the Democratic Party has changed a little bit. And I think it's tied up in the environmental movement, this extreme idea that the planet is being threatened by global warming. And there's this whole movement not to have children at all. And it's sort of caught up. It's taken on a whole different cast and become more radicalized.

And, Tom, you guys mentioned the vasectomy thing. It's like a bookmobile that gives. Remember those bookmobiles, Megan? When we were kids, they go around to neighborhoods and you check out library books. Now you can go get a vasectomy at a bookmobile here in Chicago. And I guess my main concern if I was, what if a car ran into the bookmobile while you were having the vasectomy?

That wouldn't be good.

Megyn Kelly
Courtesy of Kamala Harris, literally a ball buster.

I'm concerned because if I'm the Democrat party, I'm thinking, yes, I want to activate my base, but they seem pretty activated just by her elevation, you know, just by the fact that she's replaced the guy who is losing.

So now you've got all of this stuff that we've been discussing. And then less known but also kind of interesting, Tom, is they're posting all over the Internet. They're like diversity group sessions that are going on all day over there. There's the Native American caucus, the LGBTQ caucus, the black Caucus, the Hispanic Caucus, the climate Crisis council, that, so on. So that sort of white guys, white dudes for Kamala and white chicks for Kamala. Like, that was not pretend. They, they remain a segregated party. The blacks don't congregate with the whites, don't congregate with the Hispanics, et cetera. And they actually, this, this just was tweeted out before we got to air began. They opened, at least on paper, with a land acknowledgement.

A land acknowledgement for those of you who don't know what that is, it's where you stand up and you, like, pay homage to the native Americans and you express your apologies for stealing their land. I'll read you what this one sounds like. The DNC wishes to acknowledge that we gather together to state our values on lands that have been stewarded through many centuries by the ancestors and descendants of tribal nations who have been here since time immemorial. We honor the communities native to this continent and recognize that our country was built on indigenous homelands. We also recognize and honor the traditional homelands of the Anishinaabe, also known as the Council of the three Fires, the Ojibwe, the Odawa, and the Potawatomi nation.

Anyone sitting in Wisconsin is going to be like, what?

What?

Tom Bevin
Yeah, look, I live up the road in Evanston, which is a very liberal community, just about. It's the first suburb north of Chicago, and they've been doing this for years. And it's the land acknowledgement at the beginning of the city council meeting is like 30 minutes long. I mean, it takes forever. They just keep going on and on and on. Look, I think this shows the Democratic Party is still very much invested in identity politics.

And for a party that's trying to bring people together and unite folks, which is the goal of winning an election, by the way, they're doing it by segregating and slicing people into these very, very small dudes. You mentioned white dudes for Harris, and they've got all of these sort of individualized, siloed identity groups, and they're not sort of coming across as very inclusive of everybody. And I think that's a problem. I think to the extent that they continue to speak in those terms in that way, it's going to not resonate fully and as broadly as it should at this point in the campaign.

Megyn Kelly
Well, so you know what this is reminding me of a couple years ago, and the venue shall remain nameless because they're very nice, and I like the people who organized it, but it was a remarkable moment, and it kind of encapsulates what we're looking at. So I went to this one of those, it's not a leftist think tank. It's more like a center think tank that tries to get people from the right and the left to come and speak to their group every year. They asked me to come and speak, and I did, and I listened to the other speakers and one of the other speakers was a group of mostly black men who had been interviewed by the people putting on the conference in the wake of George Floyd. And they had very strong reactions, and it was an interesting bird's eye view into their experience in sort of the six months after Floyd. And one guy was very sort of anti the white savior movement that was emerging. Like, leave us alone. I don't need you. I don't live in a white community. I don't need your white hope, your white help. You know, where were you when we didn't have air conditioning in our schools and our kids are getting beaten the hell up? And, you know, because of this, you want to come in and make yourself feel better by saving me? No, thanks. And he was a provocative, interesting guy. The next day we go, and you know who the speaker was?

Ashley Judd. And Ashley Judd got up there, and he was sitting right in front of me at the event. He was both in the audience. Now this guy's right in front. And she starts with a land acknowledgement.

It was over the top versus the one I just read you.

And then she launches into the patriarchy and how awful they are. And because of the patriarchy, she can't say what she wants on the Internet. And the patriarch, stop this and stop that. And blah, blah, blah. And white people are bad, bad. And this guy turns around to me and forgive me, says, and I quote, what the fuck was that?

Because I watch. This is. My friend is watching this right now. He's going to think that as he sees Miffry stone pills and a giant IUD vasectomy is on demand land. Acknowledgments and all of the various groups meeting to declare their fealty to Kamala.

Tom, I'll stick with you on that one. I don't know if this is the right messaging in a race that, according to you guys, it still has no clear leader, no front runner. Is the headline on RCP today.

Tom Bevin
Yeah, I mean, we can get into the polls in a minute because there were some polls released over the weekend that show that this race is really, really close.

But you're right. And it also sort of, you know, some of the sillier parts of it undercut the. Right. The argument that JD Vance is the one who's weird if you're marching around in a. As an abortion pill down the streets of Chicago or whatever. So, again, I'm not sure you're right, Megan. It's about activating your base. Right. You have to do that. But as you said, people here are activated. And it's got to be about getting to the middle, speaking to independent voters and moderates, not about having the fringes and extremes of the party sort of running the show here. That's not what they want. And we'll see whether, you know, it ends up that way or not.

Andrew Walworth
Yeah.

Megyn Kelly
Okay. So, Carl, meanwhile. Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker
Go ahead.

Andrew Walworth
I was just going to say, I mean, the thing, though, is the base wasn't activated under Biden. So the fact that she has activated the base is not an entirely crazy strategy for them to take. It's just at this point, can she move towards the center or bring in those independent voters? And when you see things like Friday when she announced her economic plan, it seems like that was not designed to reach out to the middle. And I think the question right now is, can she continue this sort of vibe based campaign, which they keep calling it, and because every time she comes out with a policy, if it is designed to appeal to the base.

Speaker
In.

Andrew Walworth
Its essence, is not designed to appeal to those middle of the road voters that she's trying to reach out to. So I think that's the challenge she's going to have over the next couple of weeks. And we'll see at this convention where she comes down. Is she going to keep speaking to the base or does she have an idea or two that will reach out to the middle of the road? And, you know, maybe it's pro fracking. Maybe she comes out and, you know, defends the oil industry. I don't know.

Megyn Kelly
We're not going to get policy. We're going to get joyous and we can't go back. And I really think that, you know, democracy is strong but also weak. We're going to like, that's what we're going to get, right. We're not going to get new policy proposals, proposals, especially since she tried for the first time on Friday and really got her hand bitten. Right. I mean, the Washington Post and all these lefties came out and came for her saying that this sounds like communist propaganda.

Andrew Walworth
Right. But do you really think she can continue just running on vibes alone? I'm not sure about that. At some point someone's going to demand that she take a position on something.

Megyn Kelly
They kind of post September 18, Carl, or whenever the early voting gets underway in Pennsylvania.

Carl Cannon
Well, they kind of ran sort of the vibe thing to its end result. They've run into a cul de sac over the weekend. They had, what was it? Strength through joy, which it took about, it took the Internet about ten minutes to remember that that was actually a nazi party slogan.

I mean, and you remember when Donald Trump used some word that was once in a Hitler speech. They said, he's quoting Hitler now. The Democrats were literally quoting Hitler. So I think if I, if I'm on the Democratic Party, I say, okay, we've done this vibe thing. We've done the joy. Let's start, let's start talking to voters where they are. So, Megan, you think it'll happen in September? It should happen soon, though, if they want to win. I would think.

Megyn Kelly
I want to go back over the Friday announcement because it's interesting. But before we get to that, let's just stick with what's going to happen tonight because it occurs to me you're going to have Joe Biden get up there on a Monday, give his farewell speech. I mean, you know, this is the.

Carl Cannon
First of his nine farewell speeches.

Megyn Kelly
Yeah, yeah. But this is the moment that was promised. Right? Like, you step down.

Carl Cannon
That's right.

Megyn Kelly
We will make a God out of you at this Democrat. I mean, I can only imagine the setup video we're going to get because they know the speech is not going to really do it.

Carl Cannon
But, Megan, have you actually been to Mount Rushmore? Have they already started construction, though?

Megyn Kelly
I bet they have, yes. It's going to take as long as it's taking them to build the crazy horse one, which is like 200 years. Maybe they'll have his forehead done.

But what's interesting to me is it's going to be basically a fraud. I mean, what's going to happen tonight is Joe Biden's going to get up there and say, me, me, me, me. And also Kamala. Yay. Yay, Democrats and Trump is bad.

But if you read the news, what we're getting is this Democrat party is fractured. It is definitely fractured in large part because of the Israel thing and the protesters, but also because of what was done to Joe Biden. And while, I mean, I've listened to you guys enough to know, we all thought there's no way this guy can continue, you know, in the presidency, nevermind.

There's no way he can continue for a second term of the presidency. There's still a lot of lingering resentments over the fact that he was pushed out. That was, there was a news item just this morning about Mike Barnacle, who appears on morning Joe every day running into one of the Obama guys at Wrigley Field in Chicago. And the Obama guy said something to the effect of, thank God we got him out. And Barnacle, who's more of a Biden guy said, who?

The Obama guy said Joe Biden. And apparently Mike Barnacle told him to f, off and went off on him. And this got back to Joe Biden, who apparently laughed with delight and loved the fact that he called him out. So there's that. There's the reporting as Nancy Pelosi goes on her book tour about, like, all the weird revelations she's making about how she read his letter saying he's staying in, but that really didn't sound like him. And she, you know, she really didn't do anything. And yet they're not on speaking terms. And whether their friendship continues, it's really kind of his call. But she dreams, so, she hopes so.

So there's that. And then you've got this mention in the New York Times by Mike Donald and Biden's top guy over the weekend saying, I'm paraphrasing. We really tried for ways to make her look good, but we just couldn't do it. It just couldn't do. Was it Ron claim Donald's also in there? They're both in there, but those are Biden's top guys. So I don't know. I mean, Andrew, I guess I'll go with you on that one. What? Like, this is a party that's not quite as unified and joyful as it's going to lead us to believe tonight.

Andrew Walworth
Yeah. I would be surprised tonight, though, if you got much of that vibe. I think that they will have it organized at the point where Joe Biden will give a, you know, speech from the teleprompter. He's not going to go off script, and it will be reported, especially in the mainstream press, as a big success. I mean, one of the stories I'm watching in regards to this is the Hunter Biden story because I think that you may see over the next month or so more and more sort of revelations about Hunter Biden's real relationship because he, his corruption.

Megyn Kelly
Is that what you're.

Andrew Walworth
Yeah, now that, now, yeah, now that they've thrown Biden out, you know, off the bus, there's less and less reason to sort of COVID that up. And I think you'll, that might be something that, that the Bidens are hyper aware of right now because they do, I think, want to make sure that he gets a pardon before Biden leaves office. I mean, he's still the president. That's the thing that people are having trouble with. I mean, Joe Biden still, until what, January, is the president of the United States. So he still has a role to play in all this and people have to be aware of. So I think it'll be interesting tonight, though. But I do think that it'll be a pretty disciplined first night at least.

Megyn Kelly
Well, I think they'll be disciplined throughout. I mean, the Democrats are pretty disciplined. I mean, I think, and unlike the republican party, which revolves right now around one man, the Democrats have all stars for their people. I mean, their voters love Michelle Obama and she's coming out tomorrow night. They still love Barack Obama and he's coming out Wednesday night and they still love Bill Clinton and he's coming out tomorrow night. I mean, it's actually kind of, if I were Michelle Obama, I said I would say I'm not going on the same night as Bill Clinton. I'm not. No, I put it, put me on another night. Put me on Monday. Fine with I'll be Monday, Michelle. But I do think, Carl, because people are wondering whether there's still opportunity for a bump for her or whether she already got her bump. You know, it's built into what happened over the past month. I think she could still get a little bump with that cast of all stars within the Dem party ginning up enthusiasm on their side.

Carl Cannon
I agree with you completely. And I think the reason for that is what you said earlier, Megan.

There's still lingering doubt even among the rank and file. You know, for people, there's still affection for Joe Biden in places. And I think if they can, if they can paper over that, although, you know, and everybody sticks to their knitting and everybody does what they think, I think she will. There's no reason to think she wouldn't get a slight bump coming out of here. But I, she mainly got the convention bump before the convention. But as I heard you talk about it, Megan, wouldn't it be a hell of a much more interesting and fun story and a great convention if Biden got up there and threw away his speech and said, you know what? They want me to resign. I don't think I, I think maybe I, you know, you're my delegates. I think I still want to run. Now that would be a good, this is malarkey, right? That'd be awesome. It happened. It happened here in Chicago in the convention that nominated James A. Garfield. Garfield got up and said he was supposed to be speaking for Senator Sherman. He says, so who do we want? You expect him to say Sherman? Some wise guy yells, we want Garfield. And it stampeded the convention. Maybe Biden should do that. He should say, who do you want and plant some shill out there. Hunter, we want Biden anyway. Be a better story.

Megyn Kelly
Yes, it would. Unfortunately, this whole process, too is pretend because she's already secured the nomination. They did it via digital vote a couple of weeks ago. So this is all kind of just pretend. It's like when the couple raining on my parade. Megan eloped. They elope. Sorry, they elope, but they don't tell the parents. Then they have a big wedding ceremony where only the parents don't know that they're already married. That actually happened with my two friends back in Fox News. So I want to get back to convention week. But can we spend a minute on those polls, Tom, because this is the headline, no front runner in swing states before democratic convention. And everyone, I say this all the time, not just because you guys are on, I've been saying it for over 15 years. Go to realclearpolitics.com every morning to start your day. Just click on all the editorials just read. They put a posting from the left and from the right so no one gets to corrupt your brain. You get to take in what both sides are saying, make up your own mind. It's really kind of the only way to consume news in today's day and age.

So you've posted this by Jonathan Draker, and he's citing that New York Times Sienna poll that we talked about late last week. But also there's a Rasmussen poll that's dropped. And you're going through all the swing states here from Arizona and Michigan and Pennsylvania and Georgia, all of them, and then Nevada. The conclusion is no clear favorite has emerged.

Trump was up. Trump is up 0.2 points.

In the real clear politics average of the top seven battleground states, he led by 4.3 before Biden dropped out. So it's a fall for him. However, he is still slightly in the lead. And if you look back at where Trump was at this point in 16, he was down, I think, six points.

And he won that election.

He was also down in 2020 at this point, and he lost that election.

So from all that we glean, what Tom BEvin well, this race is looking.

Tom Bevin
A lot like 2016 to me. I mean, you had, you're right. So when Joe Biden exited the race in the national polls, he was down 3.1% on a rocker politics average, Biden was down. Now Kamala Harris is up 1.4%. So it's been about a four and a half points wing in her favor. Same thing with the battleground states. Trump was leading by 4.3. Now he's leading by 0.1. So he's had about the same, maybe a little bit less of a fall. Remember 2016, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by about two, two and a half points, but lost the electoral college and, you know, in very close fashion in Pennsylvania and whatnot. Of these seven battleground states, the largest lead is Kamala Harris has a two point lead in Michigan. Every other battleground state now is at one point or less. A couple of them are at .1 or 0.2.

So it's incredibly, incredibly close and I expect it to stay that way. I agree with you and Carl that she'll probably get a little bit of a bump out of this convention, but then the race will revert to sort of stasis, which I think is again, her leading in the national polls. But these battleground states being incredibly close. And that also leads me to believe that I think this debate, should it happen on the 18 September on ABC News, is going to be crucially important for these campaigns. Absolutely.

Megyn Kelly
Wait, I thought it was September 10 am. I am. I'm sorry. They've been all over the board.

Tom Bevin
I probably got the date wrong. Yeah, that's right. It is September. And they announced it's in Philadelphia.

Yeah, it's going to be incredibly important. It could be that typically debates don't matter, but a race is close with this much on the line, I think it might.

Megyn Kelly
It's so, like, all over the board. And I'll tell you, my husband Doug, with respect to real clear politics, he likes to go to the betting odds every day, and he's not a huge Kamala Harris fan. And he was getting really worried because she was up by a lot in those betting odds. And now Trump is back up. He was watching it get tighter and tighter and how Trump has retaken the lead in the wake of her economic proposals on Friday. And it does make me wonder whether people are paying attention.

Normally, my instincts as like, just a commentator, not an economist, not a political operative are. When a politician gets up and offers a bunch of free stuff, her numbers should go up.

Americans like free stuff, especially Democrats. That's why a lot of them are Democrats. They think that the rich get all the breaks and that the Democrat party is going to look out for them, you know, the middle class people who get screwed. So you tell me I'm getting free stuff, like, just because I had some kids or because I have never owned a home or because I'm paying a lot of the gross, I say, yes, I'm voting for you, that's going to help my wallet.

That doesn't seem to be what is happening, at least not to put too much weight on the betting polls, Tom, but the betting polls are swinging back the other way. When people have to put money on this, they think he's going to do it.

Tom Bevin
Yeah. I mean, and those are very reactive to events, right. They, they tend to swing sort of in one direction or another. So, you know, something could happen tomorrow and Kamala Harris could be back ahead. It depends on the betting market that you're looking at as well. But listen, I agree with you. I mean, the economy and inflation is still the number one issue in this election by far. Immigrations maybe, you know, in second or third, depending on which poll you look at, Trump still has advantages, even these, the Washington Post poll and the CB's news poll that came out over the weekend that had Kamala Harris up four and three points respectively. Trump had an advantage on those issues. The problem for him, as it's always been, is the personality stuff. Right. He's not seen as, as being as likable. Yeah. Or as honest and trustworthy or, you know, on those sort of intangible metrics. And it's because he goes off script and, and, you know, talks about her looks or her identity or whatever. I, he's got an advantage on the issues in this race. And so if he can stick to that, I think he'll end up doing better. But right now it is very, very close.

Megyn Kelly
So we've talked about the economic remarks a little, but here's just a little more for the audience. I'm sure you've heard what she announced last week. We were off on Friday, so did not cover it. But she's proposing, as I said, $25,000 for first time homebuyers to help them with a down payment on a house. She's proposing some sort of federal price controls, though apparently this is what she was expected to propose. And the actual remarks as orated didn't necessarily sound quite that extreme to those who expected actual price controls being proposed.

We'll see. We have no idea because she doesn't write anything down. There's nothing on her website and so on.

And she's proposing a child tax credit of $6,000 for a child in the first year. JD Vance had proposed 5000. So there's a suggestion by some, this is yet another attempt to copy a Trump fans proposal that might have more populist appeal. But here she is outlining a bit of that on, well, late last week sat three.

Speaker
Costs are still too high.

And on a deeper level, for too many people, no matter how much they work, it feels so hard to just be able to get ahead.

Together, we will build what I call an opportunity economy.

A loaf of bread cost 50% more today than it did before the pandemic.

Ground beef is up almost 50%.

Many of the big food companies are seeing their highest profits in two decades. So believe me, as president, I will go after the bad actors, and I will work to pass the first ever federal ban on price gauging on food.

Megyn Kelly
A lot of, like, I didn't see anything, almost anything, saying, this is a good idea. I'll just give you a flavor. But this is a columnist for the Washington Post, Katharine Ramble, who got, she got a lot of blowback. I went to her ex feed. My gosh, her side is like, oh, got you. She's been trying to soften it ever since. But this is what, this is how she reacted to it after Harris said it on Friday. Top five.

We've seen this kind of thing tried in lots of other countries before, Venezuela, Argentina, the Soviet Union, et cetera. It leads to shortages. It leads to black markets.

You know, plenty of uncertainty. The devil's in the, in the details, I guess, for that bill, but it's really hard for me to imagine any form of legislation that preserves the spirit of what she's proposing. That would not be, you know, at best, do nothing, at worst, cause a lot of harm.

Forgive me. That was her before the speech. And one more, guys.

David Friedberg, who's more left leaning, went on the all in podcast. He analyzes markets, including food, agriculture, and reacted as follows.

Tom Bevin
There is nowhere in the agri food supply chain that we are seeing fundamentally price gouging or profit taking happening. What has happened is the cost of labor, the cost of moving stuff around, the cost of fuel, the cost of electricity, the cost of goods has all risen with inflation because of the increase in the money supply and federal spending and the stimulus associated with the Federal Reserve buying assets onto their balance sheet. This is a mistake. It is a problem. It is anti american. It is anti free market. It is anti innovation. It is anti productivity, and ultimately, it is anti liberty. I cannot stand it.

Megyn Kelly
So how do you think that played politically? Because I personally was surprised she got so much blowback.

Andrew Walworth
Well, I'll tell you what I thought. I thought that the details were less important than the direction, that everything she was saying was directionally pointed towards the left. Everything was directionally pointed towards causing more inflation and I think the american people understand that if you give first time homebuyers $25,000 to buy the house, that immediately will raise the price of that house by $25,000. That's the way subsidies work. And I think the american people are pretty sophisticated about this at this point. They hear wage and price controls. They know what that means. We've tried them here. I mean, that was Nixon's policy as well. So it's not totally foreign. I mean, we've seen it fail here at home as well as in the countries that people talk about, the Soviet Union, Venezuela, places like that. So I think I wasn't surprised that there was this much blowback. I was surprised that she went that far left out of the box.

And I thought that, you know, Catherine Rampall, who you quoted there, is a not, not a right wing writer at all. And so she did get a lot of blowback from the people that were sort of center left, and that might have surprised them. And we'll see. I think now whether she tries to walk it back a little further because it's unpopular or whether she doubles down on it because she was not alone.

Megyn Kelly
You know, she's out there, but she's not by herself. And here's the other thing, the 25,000 for first time home buyers. My understanding is she went further than a proposal Biden had had, which would have excluded people who had owned a home but are now renting. Like my mom. You know, my mom is technically a renter now, but she's owned a home her whole life. But under, I think, Kamala Harris's plan, she'd be treated as a first time homebuyer, and she'd get 25 grand, which right now, my mom's probably listening to saying, I'll do it. I'll vote Democrat.

My mom is a Democrat.

She's a more blue dog Democrat, I'd say. In any event, here's Kevin O'Leary of Shark tank fame. And real estate is his business. He's been on the show many times reacting to that piece of it.

There are bad ideas, bad, bad ideas and really bad ideas. And that falls into this category. When you give $25,000 to anybody in a constrained market, you cause inflation. So if there's three houses for sale on the street and everybody bidding on it gets another 25,000, all of that attributes to the seller, and you cause the price of the house to go up because there's no supply. Everybody knows in real estate, that's what I do for a living, that it's not controlled by a federal mandate. Housing is state by state. She can do nothing to solve that problem.

You know, Carl, that makes sense, right? Like everybody gets 25 grand and what happens?

The price of homes goes up. Just like the college tuition, right? It's like if the government starts increasing the amount we can borrow from the government, guess what happens? Tuition goes up.

Carl Cannon
Well, you've noticed that she did nothing when she talks about price gouging, just general thing. Like it's the food growers, the grocery industry. By the way, their profit margin is between one and 1.2% year after year. She didn't go after colleges, these elite universities.

Their inflation has gone up two or 300% in the last generation. You notice she didn't mention them. But I think there's something other than the economic illiteracy about this that didn't, that didn't help her, that didn't help the Democrats. And it's this, they've been trying out these different themes in this vibe meme based candidacy. And one of them is we're the freedom party. Well, the freedom party then doesn't do soviet style well, maybe that's too harsh, but doesn't do command and control economy thing. It was at odds with what they've been saying. And I think discerning voters, and that's the kind of people they ought to be thinking about right now, is discerning voters in swing states think, okay, maybe it's just all, you know, maybe it's just all spin, maybe it's just all pandering. Maybe none of it's sincere. I think it also undercut their message in a kind of basic way. I thought.

Andrew Walworth
There'S one other aspect of this housing thing which I think people should also take into account.

Economists call it moral hazard, but it's the idea that when you mess with incentives, you, sometimes you're trying to encourage behavior, which we all like. I personally think it's great for people to buy houses. It'd be great if there was more homeownership. But if you sell houses to people who can't or aren't qualified by market levels to buy those houses and pay those mortgages, they end up foreclosing on the house. And this has happened before in american history. We tried it, the SNL crisis. If people remember it, you cannot artificially create a market without, you can't artificially mess with the market without expecting some sort of blowback. And it's not a good, you know, the market discipline is an important thing. If you can't afford a house. You shouldn't be buying a house. You should wait.

Megyn Kelly
We already live that nightmare house.

Andrew Walworth
Right, exactly. So I think that that's another aspect of this that people are aware of that you just, you know, this isn't the wizard of Oz. You can't just wave your magic wand and create, you know, a different type of housing market. It doesn't work that way.

The economy will always sort of adjust and, you know, bad decisions get punished and we're encouraging bad decisions.

Megyn Kelly
It feels so dishonest. Right. It's like we all know how we got to this inflationary cycle and the huge, the biggest driver was the spending that the Biden administration did and the behavior of the fed at the beginning of his terminal. And instead of just acknowledging that and saying we're going to steady it, it's starting to steady, she just says, look at the bad, evil corporations. They're terrible. They're the ones who did it. Even though, as you point out correctly, Carl, the margin of profit for these grocers is, you know, like 1%. These are not price gougers. Unlike the colleges, they are not price gougers. She won't deal with the consequences of her own party's decision making, her administration's decision making.

And this, this is another real quandary for her because she's trying to pretend like she's from the outside running to get on the inside, whereas she's second in command in the administration.

That's given us those problems, which is why Trump put out this ad about 2 seconds after she stopped speaking. Sought for.

Speaker
A loaf of bread cost 50% more today than it did before. The pandemic ground beef is up almost 50%.

Speaker
I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message.

Megyn Kelly
Tom.

Pretty good, Tom.

Tom Bevin
That's good work by the campaign, for sure. By the Trump campaign.

Listen, I mean, you make the fundamental point, Megan, which is you can't, she's the quasi incumbent, right? Shes been part of the administration, the incumbent administration for three and a half years. And so for her to come out and say on day one, im going to focus on, you know, have a laser focus on reducing prices just absolutely begs the question, what have you been doing for three and a half, four years? Right. And for her to try and say, well, you know, were never going back, well, to where weve been, I mean, there are a lot of contradictions in her, in her campaign and in her messaging. And she really does have to try and thread this needle and portray herself as an outsider, even though she's been the insider. And the other thing, too, is that unlike in the past, Donald Trump is a known quantity and we don't have to speculate about what he will do or what an economy under him might look like. We've seen it, and the polling shows that most people are look back on that time pretty favorably. And so I think that's the other issue that's complicating things for Kamala Harris.

Megyn Kelly
The national debt, I think, is 35 trillion right now. 35 trillion with a t. So some people, because we used to do this in America, started to say, how are we going to pay for all that?

Where are we going to get the money for all of that? There used to be a question we asked. Then we were told that this monetary policy allowed us to just spend as much as we wanted and we didn't have to worry about the consequences. Yay. Well, turned out not to be true. People always wondered whether it would be true or not. It wasn't. It was not.

And so an intrepid reporter tracked her down over the weekend and asked that bold question, how, how are you going to pay for it? And it's amazing how she answers. I'll let her words speak for themselves here in SAT eleven.

Speaker
I mean, you just look at it in terms of what we are talking about, for example, around children and the child tax credit and extending the EITC, that is at $6,000 for the first year of a child's life, the return on that investment, in terms of what that will do and what it will pay for will be tremendous. We've seen it when we did it the first year of our administration, reduced, we reduced child privacy by over 50%. So that's a lot of the work. And then what we're doing in terms of the tax credits, we know that there's a great return on investment when we increase homeownership in America, what that means in terms of increasing the tax base, not to mention property tax base, what that does to fund schools. Again, return on investment. I think it's a mistake for any person who talks about public policy to not critically evaluate how you measure the return on investment. When you are strengthening neighborhoods, strengthening communities, and in particular the economy of those communities and investing in a broad based economy.

Everybody benefits and it pays for itself.

Megyn Kelly
Okay, this is every time she talks about a plan or tell when we're going to get a plan or when she's going to speak to the media, this is the clip I think of you guys. This, you guys saw the movie meet the parents, you know, Robert De Niro, Ben Stiller. Robert De Niro's this undercover CIA agent pretending that he's a florist. And Ben Stiller doesn't know that. And he shows up and gives him this potted plant of just dirt.

And he says, well, here, watch. We pulled it. Look at this. It's a flower pot with a dirt in it.

Andrew Walworth
Actually, the real gift is what's planted in the soil.

Tom Bevin
The bulb of a Jerusalem tulip.

Megyn Kelly
Which I was told is one of the rarest and most beautiful flowers in existence.

Speaker
Oh, right, right.

The Jerusalem.

From the Jerusalem to Lepesius genus. Yes, yes.

Megyn Kelly
Anyway, the guy said with regular watering, it should bloom in about six months.

Speaker
Well, we'll look forward to that, Greg.

Andrew Walworth
That'S a great clip.

Megyn Kelly
That's it.

Andrew Walworth
Well, you know, if you're just, if you are talking about sort of bad economic ideas of it, there is one more, which is the no tax on tips, which is bipartisan, which has been sort of derided by most economists, as well as being something that is just going to, again, you know, it just, people behave differently when you change the tax incentives. And you'll, you'll have people, podcasters being paid by tips. At least that's what I'll be looking forward to.

Megyn Kelly
Well, the richest guys are the first to figure out how, you know, some of us are just regular, like, paycheck employees, but those Wall street guys, the real estate guys, they know how to game all these systems. Like, they'll, they'll always find a way. But all plans are like, eventually you'll see them. Eventually I'll speak with someone in the media.

Eventually we'll see a return on investment that we make in the child tax credit, like when the kid grows up. I will look forward to that, Greg. You guys, it's been a pleasure. Look forward to hearing your reports all this week from Chicago.

Tom Bevin
Thanks, Megan.

Carl Cannon
Thank you. Megan, it's always a pleasure.

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Megyn Kelly
All I can think about is, you know, every year at Christmas we go skiing out in Montana, and every year I do like a costume party just for the family. We call it costume night. We go over the top. I think I showed you this year.

We did the Ten Commandments. Doug was the best. Moses and I think we're going to go as various forms of abortion this year.

Family celebration, like mifepristone, I don't know, the terrible, disgusting scissors that they use. This is such, this is sick.

This is how they're choosing to celebrate their party. This is how I kill the baby. Well, this is how I do it.

Speaker
Yay.

Megyn Kelly
So fun. Let's go to Wrigley Field. I okay.

Yeah. We have come a long way since safe, legal and rare.

It is day one of the Democratic National Convention underway in Chicago now. But as important as what happens inside the arena is it's fascinating to watch what's happening outside.

Chicago, of course, has a history of protests and violence, in particular when it comes to conventions. And my next guest is an expert on the city. He's a legend in Chicago. His name, and you know him well here on the MK show is John Kass, K a s s. He spent over 35 years as a prominent columnist at the Chicago Tribune before departing in 2021. He is now independent and the founder of Johncast news.com. always worth reading. So thoughtful and host of the Chicago Way podcast. John, welcome back to the show. Great to have you, Megan.

Speaker
Great to be with you. And I don't, I hope, I don't want to see any pictures of the costumes, though. I want to stay away from that.

Megyn Kelly
They're. These are crazy people.

Speaker
I'll ask the Virgin Mary up on my right hand. You know, when she thinks of it, I don't think she would think too much of it. But this is the new Democratic Party. This is not Bill Clinton's democratic party. This is the progressive democratic party.

And they're up in arms to try. What do they want to do? Chase Jews, hate on Jews? I mean, I don't. I don't get it, but that's what they're doing, so it must help them.

Megyn Kelly
Yeah, I think that is their plan. They've said that they. They want to engage with the cops enough that they will get bruised up and that that can be their back to school clothing, their bruises that they entice or I entrap the Chicago PD into giving them. This is a cause to be celebrated, saying, why shouldn't there be violence?

Speaker
When I was a kid, I cheered in Chicago in 68, you know, getting my.

My crew cuts, like, with my, you know, brush cuts from Stanley the barber on the southwest side at Gage park.

We cheered the police officers at the time. We cheered the cops giving, as my friend Pat Hickey says, the wood shampoo to the protesters. And I don't want to see anybody getting a wood shampoo today. But, you know, I don't know what they expect Chicago to do.

Maybe higher. The dominates.

Megyn Kelly
They want.

They want.

Speaker
Yeah. They already won.

Megyn Kelly
That's the whole point. This name of this group is called behind enemy lines, and they are saying openly who says protesting should be safe? All right, hold on a second. I'll read.

We've insisted from the beginning of this campaign that sight and sound is not enough, that this convention must be shut down, and refuse to engage with careerists and opportunists. Um, we've got to shut down the sheet, the streets to actually shut down genocide, Joe and killer Kamala. Why do people in the US have the right to prioritize their own safety? How is any protest going to be successful if it doesn't challenge and disrupt business as usual? To actually disturb the normal functioning of a society that is aiding and abetting a genocide? And why should any of that be safe? They say if people prioritize their own safety over the people of the world, then the protest will be a victory for killer Kamala. It's that simple. Our responsibility to the people of the world is to actually confront this convention. And, yes, take risks to do so. Escalate for Gaza, shut down the DNC. And you know what? Your mayor did not for this particular group, but for the other protesters, like an offshoot of them that's a little bit more normal.

He set them all up. He's like, here's your microphone, here's your stage. Have at it.

Speaker
He has no, uh, he's a weakling, this mayor is. We, you know, we've gone progressively weaker, mayor after mayor, until now. We've got a guy who basically lives on pharmaceuticals and has panic attacks and can't handle the job.

Yeah, he has panic attacks and can't handle the job. And so, I mean, there was a famous story where a few weeks ago, he was chased by Marianne Ahern of the NBC five, and he ran through an alley and ran around her and got into a car and ran away. He's the mayor of Chicago.

You're afraid of Marianne Ahern? I don't think so. But anyway, that's his deal.

Megyn Kelly
Look, see, now, what do you make of this security threat there? Because not only do you have these lunatics, and I don't know who's calling the hotels trying to find out where the Democrats are staying, lawmakers, but that they're, they're now being told, use aliases to check in. Then you have them out on the street saying, we've got to get violent if we really want, you know, to get noticed.

And you've got these Chicago businessmen, smart men, boarding up their stores, expecting the numbers are as much as, according to locals, a possible hundred thousand influx of protesters trying to break shit up in Chicago.

Speaker
The left has already destroyed the city. They did so with the Black Lives Matter riots that they called what mostly peaceful. The media called it mostly peaceful and it's never recovered since then. And now what do we have? An outgoing Cook county state's attorney, Kimberly Fox, one of the Soro sisters, to Kamala Harris, who doesn't put people in jail. She won't put repeat offenders, violent offenders in jail.

And that's what she's run on because she's run on the idea that law enforcement is racist and she doesn't want to be a racist. So she caters to the law breakers. Unfortunately, Megan, the people who have their bodies broken and their hearts broken are black people and Latinos, mostly women.

And while the big fat cat donors from this event are living in Pritzker appointed royal housing in Lake Geneva and just driving in 90 minutes for the, for the convention, the rest of the people are stuck with it.

I'm sorry.

Megyn Kelly
The governor, though, he sounds all John Wayne. I mean, you heard him on CNN. Like they're going to get arrested. Here he is. Listen here.

Tom Bevin
So it's a whole different situation. And honestly, I expect that we're going to have peaceful protests. We're going to protect the protesters, but also protect all the people visiting, 50,000.

Megyn Kelly
People coming to Chicago and the residents of Chicago.

Tom Bevin
So the plan's been in place for a year and a quarter now already.

Andrew Walworth
We're going to execute on that plan.

Tom Bevin
The next four days.

Megyn Kelly
Certainly most of the protesters, I'm sure, intend to be peaceful, but there are some groups that are making it clear they do not want to be peaceful. There's one called behind enemy lines, for example, calling on its supporters to shut.

Tom Bevin
Down the DNC, urging them to make bruises from Chicago police batons.

Megyn Kelly
The 2024 back to school fall fashion. Um, you guys prepared for that?

Tom Bevin
If there are troublemakers, they're going to get arrested and they're going to get convicted.

Speaker
Yeah. Beautiful. JB. JB is the guy who promoted and. And, uh, endorsed Kim Fox.

He endorsed her. The Soro sister, the do nothing prosecutor. Prosecutor zero.

And now what? Now he wants law and order? Come on.

That's not what happens when you stop enforcing the law. An amazing thing happens. Despite his fantasy that when, you know, to become president, presidential timber.

After. After Kamala Harris is done, I guess he'll be happy and he'll run for office. But the damage has been done to the city of Chicago. And look, they're boarding, as you mentioned, they're boarding up.

They're boarding up the building, the storefronts downtown.

You were at the convention in 1996, the Clinton inauguration, weren't you? Or the Clinton Corporation?

Megyn Kelly
No, I was still a. I was. I was still a practicing lawyer then, actually. Wait, what did I say? I was living in Chicago then, but.

Speaker
I don't want to go to your staff. I've discussed with your staff whether or not you've actually eaten a hot dog or did you eat the bun? A Chicago hot dog or just bit?

Megyn Kelly
Always.

Always ate the bun. Yeah. If I'm gonna have a hot dog or a hamburger, I'm getting the bun, right?

Speaker
Exactly. So anyway, that's where we are with Pritzker and his fantasies and Kamala Harris and her fantasies and the people of Chicago. You know, the people that are hurt the most by all this marxist nonsense are the children who don't get educated. Only 17%, mostly black and latino kids, can do math at a grade level. And I think only 30%, or just about 30%, can read.

Barely.

I mean, what kind of. What kind of city is this? And then we're doing this with the democratic convention here. So we're telling the world, telling the rest of the country, you elect Kamala, you're gonna get the Chicago way in your town, everywhere, right?

Megyn Kelly
So she comes to Chicago, right? A town that used to be absolutely glorious and now is just a shadow of its former self because of Democrat policies that have taken over and been in control for some time. And we're supposed to celebrate her coronation in a city where, not far from where she will take the stage as our next queen.

We had at least this past weekend, 23 shot, five fatally. The weekend before, at least, at least 33 people shot, one fatally.

Mostly black and brown people.

But they don't give a damn. They could not care less. Because joy, it's truly joyful if you're rich and you're a connected Democrat.

Speaker
The politics of this is that the left, the Soros, prosecutors, the Democratic Party, all of them, they ran against law enforcement because they were, they wanted to promote their own people.

But what that meant was they wouldn't, they announced that they would not enforce the law and put repeat offenders in jail, in prison, behind bars, where they belong.

And so when you, what you get after year after year after year of this kind of thing is chaos and destruction and anarchy.

And that's what we have now. This is not to say, I'm not to say that Trump is the greatest thing in the world because, you know, he's a human being. And no human being is great except for you, Megan.

But the thing is the anarchy that they're presenting to the world and the desire from the media to ignore what they're seeing and to put a rosy face on it and call it joy, and let Tim Waltz have his white man tacos, whatever those are, with mayonnaise and white bread. I guess it's offensive.

Megyn Kelly
Let me show that to the audience, John, because they may have missed the Waltz Harris interview, where they sat down with one another in this long pr piece that they released, where he took what opportunity he had to denigrate whites. And she laughed right along because it's fine to rip on white people. You won't be called a karen. You can denigrate whites till the cows come home. Whites can be shat upon no problem by blacks. By whites. It's not an issue.

Here they are laughing over their white guy tacos, suggesting whites only eat tacos with meat and cheese, because I guess he's now our official white person spokesman.

Andrew Walworth
Like, I have white guy tacos and.

Speaker
Like, mayonnaise and tuna what are you doing?

Andrew Walworth
Pretty much ground beef and cheese.

Megyn Kelly
That's okay.

Speaker
Do you put any flavor in it?

Andrew Walworth
Oh, no.

Megyn Kelly
Here's the deal.

Andrew Walworth
No, they said to be careful and.

Megyn Kelly
Let her know this, that black pepper.

Speaker
Is the top of the spice level in Minnesota.

Speaker
You know, I'm the first vice president, I believe, who has ever grown chili peppers.

Speaker
Well, trying to expand my food knowledge.

Speaker
You know, we've got some cantaloupes. You'll be fine.

Speaker
Yeah.

Megyn Kelly
That's so funny.

Speaker
Oh, that's hilarious.

You know what I wish that these two morons, before they make any more pronouncements, before they do any more stalinist price controls and so forth.

Walt should get on the l. Get on the l because.

Right. Yeah. The elevated train ride up and down at night and see how the people like it.

Because women are victims on the l constantly. I'm a big fan of two of two websites, like Victor Davis Hansen, of course, who's a big fan of yours and love him. CWB Chicago, which actually does, you know, crime reporting.

And it's amazing what happens. Women constantly in the headlines, constantly pounded, smashed, beat, and the repeat offenders of guys been arrested seven times or ten times or 15 times and released from. From. From jail while he's awaiting another case, attacks a woman again and again and again. It's happening all the time.

I ask you, Megan, why these reporters, when they. When they write that crime is down or whatever nonsense, when they say that, do they have editors? Do the editors know? I mean, does somebody know, or do they just not care?

Megyn Kelly
Well, you know, I mean, they just.

Speaker
Shovel it down the throats of the fools, right? Yeah.

Megyn Kelly
John Cass tried to write the truth in the wake of George Floyd and all that nonsense, and that's what ultimately led to his breakup with the Chicago Tribune. You're not allowed to write the truth.

Remember the post George Floyd thing? You weren't even allowed to point out that the riots might not be helping the very communities that were supposed to be getting the most sympathy. None of that was allowed.

But the race stuff is so in your face with the Democrats. And, of course, now not only are they congregating in, like, the blacks for Kamala, the Hispanics for Kamala, the LGBTQs, they're deciding, of course, to dump on the whites because that joke, yes, it was a throwaway, dumb joke about tacos, but there's a reason they felt comfortable they would never do that in a way that would denigrate black people or hispanic people. And this is kind of silly, but it is interesting.

People online, actually, fact checked.

He was lying. He was cosplaying the dopey white guy there because actually he submitted the winning turkey taco tot hot, hot dish and won first place at Senator Al Franken's annual hot dish off back in 2016. It was his third victory.

And his hot dish contained green chilies, taco sauce, and chili pepper powder, all hotter than black, black pepper. The point is simply, what does he do? He shits on fellow white guys because it's so in vogue. It's so, like, it's fine to do that. And you know what? When you do that, Governor Walz, you shit on my boys, you shit on my husband, you shit on my neighbor's little boys, and you tell them, right, that they're uncool, they're lame, they're bland, and there will be no one rooting for them in a Harris Walls white House.

Speaker
I've been watching you for years now.

And the other day I was listening to Victor Davis Hansen, and he was talking about you. And what he said was this form, the long form suits you perfectly. And I have to agree that you get into things that you didn't get into or couldn't on television.

And the long form allows you the freedom to explore and question. And I love it. So more power.

Megyn Kelly
I love it, too. And it's also, you can drop the occasional four letter word, which, you know, I mean, I don't. It's very rare.

Yeah, very rare. But every once in a while, I'll do it. So what are the odds of seeing, like, a bill Ayers appearance at the DNC? John, my old favorite domestic terrorist.

Speaker
Well, you know, I think he should be there. I mean, isn't he around?

I'm not chasing him.

I'm sure that the New York Times, maybe the stylist of the New York Times, who's interested so much in style and the verbal style she might do. It might hang.

Megyn Kelly
Yeah, I would like to see.

Speaker
That would be a cliche if Maureen dowd hung out with Bill Ayers, but cliches in baseball.

Megyn Kelly
Well, who are you most looking forward to seeing? I mean, we got Michelle, we got Barack, we got Bill, we've got Joe.

Speaker
Tonight, Kamala, you've got Bevan on. Or did you have him on already?

Megyn Kelly
Yeah, I did. First hour.

Speaker
Okay, so we had a bet that Michelle Obama would be the savior of the democratic party, and obviously not. So I don't know if I won the bet or he won the bet as a result. But I was hoping for Michelle to see what she's going to say, but really, really, this convention is just a tv show and losers cover it. I mean, look at me tie and the jacket. I'm covering it. I'm a Johnny reporter now. But, you know, I remember covering conventions for years and not liking the tv show aspect, but it's all tv. It's all tv now. It's the tv show. So my advice to all them, love the Soro sisters because they're going to be your bosses in the future, in your neighborhoods and have a hot tub.

Megyn Kelly
Yeah. You point out, I actually didn't realize, I knew that Kim Fox was the Soros descendant. I didn't realize that Kim Fox calls Kamala Harris her mentor and that these two are close. I mean, they want us now to believe that.

Tough on crime, ballsy prosecutor. No, she is totally on board with the Soros approach.

Speaker
That's your senior cracker jack production staff. Put that picture up. That was wonderful. Yes, she is totally, she loved. And you know what, who else they have, they have in common? Juicy smollett. Okay.

Megyn Kelly
Yeah, they both believe.

Speaker
I don't think I would like to see Juicy have a speaking role at this convention, but I don't think he's going to get one.

Megyn Kelly
He's not suicidal. That's all you need to know. Not suicidal and not really going to jail for any meaningful time because of Kim Fox.

Always a pleasure, my friend.

Speaker
Love you and have a great convention. Bye bye.

Megyn Kelly
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Megyn Kelly
I gotta tell you, I am so sad today because one of the best and most influential broadcasters of all time has died.

Phil Donahue.

I can't believe it. You know, there's some figures who just seem larger than life to you. And growing up, over the past 50 years, Phil Donahue was a fixture in all of our living rooms, on our televisions for, you know, my coming of age years. And I got to say, no one did it better.

He ultimately became a friend, but for most of my life, he was just someone I deeply admired and loved to watch his interviews.

Smart, funny, entertaining, provocative. Wasn't afraid to go to the place that hurt. Ultimately, Oprah would come along and she would be a lot softer. She would herself be kind of like a soft place to fall for people. Phil could do soft and loving and supportive, but he could also do hard hitting and made the whole genre of talk tv into what it was. With the microphone running up and down the aisles, sticking the stick mic in the face of his audience members, having them weigh in, having them fight, getting all over the guests. It was exciting. We hadn't seen anything quite like it on tv.

I was enjoying, I think I told you guys this story, but I was enjoying one of his interviews. You know how your YouTube feed just sometimes feeds you stuff you didn't ask for and you don't know if it knows you or if it doesn't know you. You click on the thing to find out. Mine apparently knows me because it fed me a Phil Donoghue interview of the cast of Steel Magnolias. At the time, the movie was hitting, so it was right as the movie was coming out. Julia Roberts was still this young sort of ingenue, and all the greats were up there. Olympia Dukakis, Sally Fields, Shirley Maclaine, Dolly Parton. And this is just one of a small moment. You could pick 10,000 from Phil Donahue, but just look how good he was. Look at this fun question he dropped on Shirley McClain.

Speaker
I look at Shirley and I think.

Megyn Kelly
Of the kicks, you know, I mean, she is way up there.

Best looking legs, best looking body, best looking face in the business.

Tom Bevin
Triple threat.

Megyn Kelly
She looks like hell in this bitche. Anything for an award.

Andrew Walworth
Phil, they will never accuse you of vanity.

Speaker
What a wonderful performance you delivered in this film.

Megyn Kelly
You are the most cranky, cynical.

Look how good he is.

Right? He set up the fact that she made herself very unattractive in that movie with the compliments and with humor and then drops the hammer about how she actually appears in this film.

That is talent, people. That is talent keeper softened up, but get her to talk about it. And she did, and she took it in good humor. It's just, I know it's not, you know, Van Gogh, it's not Beethoven, but it's talk tv's version of it. He was uniquely talented.

And of course, he really came to fame attacking very serious subject matters, too.

Donahue managed to open the door to discussing some of the most divisive subjects of our time, from abortion back when, you know, it wasn't discussed, to sexual abuse, to very heated segments on the state of race relations in America.

If the white power structure in this country is going to be said to.

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Megyn Kelly
Indicting black people as well. We were, in fact, and we are today engaged in a struggle.

Andrew Walworth
We are, in fact, and we were.

Megyn Kelly
Today in many ways, and you can see it on the street, engaged in a kind of warfare in which our survival is at stake. But don't tell me we have won no battles in that war. None of us would be sitting here at all.

I don't know if it's fair to suggest that she's saying there have been no victors.

Speaker
Relax.

Megyn Kelly
Integrity.

Okay. So sometimes he would lose control, but he always kept our interest.

His success paved the way for so many others.

Obviously, Oprah is the biggest. She actually is on record as saying, if it weren't for Phil Donahue, there never would have been an Oprah show. I'm sure that's true. He invented the whole thing.

His show ran for 26 years. He won nine daytime Emmys for best talk show host back in 2017. You know how, like, the years at NBC were not so great? A year. Year, not years.

You're a plus.

But I got to meet Phil Donahue. He and I met prior to my taking the job here. He was coming on the show and I'll play you a soundbite. But I met him before I actually began work there on the upper west side of Manhattan. And we went out to lunch a couple of times.

He was so nice. He was so good to me. He didn't know me. He didn't have to sit with me. Why would he? He was just a kind guy who was happy to help somebody who was coming up and who was going to try this new thing. And by the way, I would feel firsthand how this cannot be imitated, right? Some people have this gift and some don't, but couldn't have been nicer about my life, about my family, about my job, all of it.

And ultimately, he did come on the show, and I spoke to him about his legendary career, about his life.

You know, he was married to Marlo Thomas, right? Love affair with his second wife is kind of legendary, but he had a first wife with whom he had five children, four boys and a girl, and they were divorced. And in a typical sort of Phil Donahue moment, when he spoke about that time in his life, he touched our hearts and managed to make us laugh, too.

You were raising your children by yourself for a long part of their, of their childhood. I've read Phil's book.

Speaker
Yeah, that was from the 6th grade on into freshman in high school is when I became a single parent of four sons, and I didn't know what to do with them.

And I was doing a show every day, running back and forth over my shoes.

I certainly learned a lot about what women endure, and I know that downy goes in the rinse cycle.

We did a show.

I finally was able to get some help.

A woman from Yugoslavia, very sweet, nice woman, and I did a show on drugs and teenagers, and we had bongs and pipes and showed all the paraphernalia.

And I got home from work that day, and the woman from Yugoslavia, who was my nanny, said, Mister Donohue, we have those things under your boy's bed.

Megyn Kelly
It's sweet, right? He told that story.

He just, he had a sense of humor, always about himself, and I think that's what helped him live so long.

His second marriage, as I mentioned to actress Marlo Thomas, lasted for 44 years.

They met when she was a guest on his talk show, and they later described the meeting as love at first sight. And boy, it did seem to be boy, they loved each other when the other one wasn't around. They talked about each other endlessly and in glowing terms. That was a real love affair till the day he died.

Phil Donahue died at home, surrounded by his family, his wife, children, grandchildren, and his beloved golden retriever, Charlie.

He was 88 years old, and here is to a life well lived. I will miss him. I will miss his body of work. And I'm so thankful that we have a record of it so we can enjoy him still. Well, okay. On the subject of laughs and someone who you see on camera, bringing them to you free of charge and just to improve your day, I bring in my next guest, and it happens to be someone you know very well. She goes by vice President Kamala Harris. It was a very tough booking, but we managed to get it. And we're going to go through our friend comedian and Kamala Harris impersonator Esta Paltialova to get it.

She goes by Estee Palti online. And we have been cracking up over Esther's impressions on this show for a long time. Let me just set it up like this one.

Speaker
I'll be running for president of the United States.

And we have states and they're united.

Yeah, because think about it, states should be united in all the States now.

Well, they have a president to preside over them.

That's good.

Megyn Kelly
Esther absolutely nails it. She joins me now. Esther, welcome to the show.

Speaker
Hi, Megan. Thank you so much for having me.

I cracked myself.

Megyn Kelly
Honestly, it's so fun to see you as your real self. Like, hear you talk the way you normally talk because, you know, I've only heard you do her.

Speaker
Yes. Honestly, I mean, I lose brain cells every time. Sometimes it does get a little difficult, but, yeah, no, the real me, front and center. So happy to be here. So lovely to meet you. Thank you for having me.

Megyn Kelly
Aw. So tell us about yourself. Are you in any way in comedy? Did you do impressions prior to doing this one?

Speaker
Not at all. Honestly, this has all been such a whirlwind for me. I did start a little while ago. So during the pandemic, I was forced to share a space with my husband 24/7 for the first time ever since, you know, from the time that we got married and, you know, things just got hectic. Everyone was bored. I downloaded TikTok, and from there, it just kind of took a life force on its own. I was just doing skits. I, you know, I just have a fun personality. I even patient facing, I work as a nurse. When I was patient facing, you know, I was the funny nurse. I was always mimicking the doctors, just picking up on everything they said. And, you know, from doing the Kamala, which was by accident, by the way, someone had noticed that, you know, I sound like her. I replied to the comment, made a video, and from there, you know, I just really took a life force on its own. I kept, you know, I stayed consistent with it because Joe wasn't looking good for me, you know, from the time that he came into office. So I looked at him as somebody that, you know what? I think I have something here. I don't think Joe's gonna last four years, and I think at some point she's gonna be front and center, and that's when I'll really use this superpower that I've acquired, you know, to bring it home and just show everyone how ridiculous she is, because I do see that there is some support for her, and I don't understand it. So, you know, if I have this gift that I've been given, I will continue to ride with it and just, you know, bring levity to the situation.

Megyn Kelly
We should have been listening to you as somebody who impersonates her. You were paying attention to the dynamics in a uniquely attentive way, and we should have been talking to you about what you saw. So you were right, and if she wins, you're going to have a hell of a four years. But, so how did you do it? Like, some people can just do impressions. I've noticed this. Like, my husband's very good at it. He doesn't actually do them for comedy or anything. Just when he's telling a story, if he launches into an impression, I'm always like, you're really good at that. Were you always just that person? Like you? You could hear the cadence in the way somebody speaks. Like, that's just always been a gift for you.

Speaker
I definitely think so. I don't have any professional, you know, skill in acting, but I've always, I guess the word would be mimic. I've always been a very, very good mimic. And just listening to her, at the first time I heard the impression and tried it, I don't think I had all the cadence down and my voice was still like, my voice, but, you know, over time, you kind of learn to just listen to it. And if you listen closely, she does this tremble. She does this tremble where she's pretending like she's thinking about something really, really important. And she likes to use her hands, and when she's really lost, she just breaks out into laughter.

Laughter.

Megyn Kelly
It must be so fun for you. I saw you do one recently where you were like, you had it and you were like, this is poster replacement of Joe Biden. And you were like, kamala, you've gotta give me some new material.

Speaker
Oh, my God, three and a half years, you know? Okay, so the mimic is there. I'm listening to the speeches, and it's the same thing over and over again. And at this point, now, I had a feeding frenzy on my hands. I have all these audiences, all these platforms that, like, you were saying, like, give us more, give us more. And I'm like, how? Like, I don't know how else to spin this. I need her help at this point. She needs to say different things, you know? So that's part of the reason why I was like, I need her front and center for more content, because, like.

Megyn Kelly
What were the top ones that would jump out, you know, that you were forced to do over and over because you've been watching her speeches, unburdening what.

Speaker
Has been over and over again. She has said that one. She still says that one. For the longest time. I tried to make sense of it. I only recently learned that this is apparently some kind of Marxist, you know, Marxist saying that she's been saying that she kind of took right out from her dad's civil rights movement that he's been talking to her about. But I don't think she knows that. We don't know what she's saying. Like, it doesn't really resonate with anyone. And she tries to drive it in like it's her headline, right? Like, make America great again.

Love them or hate them. It's a great tagline. You know, it's patriotic. Everyone wants America to be great. But her unburdening, what has been, I don't know, one person that has sat there and given her, like, some kind of trophy for that, like, God, you know, isn't she so smart? And look how she speaks eloquently about unburdening what has been. She is the burden that we must unburden, you know? So at this point, it's like, I don't know what she's talking about, but I really sometimes, yeah. Listening to her and trying to do the stuff verbatim, it hurts the brain. And I'm like, we need to. We need to spice things up. But now that we have Tim Walsh and her, I call them, you know, Tim Tampon Campon. I love that. You know, my friend was like, oh, you should call yourself Campon. That's what the campaign should run. So, yeah, I think that people are going to love that one.

Megyn Kelly
She's got unburdening. She's got her Venn diagrams. How does the capture. Yeah, the way she talks to us like we're idiots. Right? Like, that's, is that one of her main themes? Because that's how I experience her.

Speaker
She reminds me of the, you know, I have a five and a six year old. So when, when I started this, they were really young, and she reminded me of, you know, the preschool teachers that were talking to my children because that's how she talks to her audiences. And just looking at her, she's so in genuine, she's so inauthentic. And you can't help but observe her. And from an observer's perspective, just watching her and listening to her for the impression aspect, my cadence kind of absorbed all of that inauthenticity. And I use it to poke fun at her because you can see it. She's so in genuine, and from the fake smile to the nodding, like she's telling people, like, yeah, I resonate with you. But then she goes, you know, let me be clear. Let me be clear. You know, we all watched the television coverage of just yesterday, and that's what we've seen and we haven't seen yet and think about all the things that we have yet to still see.

And, you know, just because we didn't see it, it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

Just limited to what we've seen. And it's like, listen to that whole statement. That's, by the way, a verbatim quote from one of the things that she said. It's one of my top faves because you can't make it make sense no matter how many times you swing it. And just listening to her, it's like, what? And is that the purpose? Confuse the voter? You know, panders to the Democrats. She adds a little accent in there when she talks to the inner cities. I saw you and John cast right before this. The pandering has to be a favorite of mine because I'm a New Yorker. I've lived here, you know, 32 years, and just listening to how she talks to them and I'm like, if I was a, you know, if I was a black voter, I would genuinely be offended. All right? Because she's talking to them like, you know, I make a mean pot of collard greens. And she's all of a sudden, like, you know, this cadence appears from her that she, like, she's Madea and Tyler Perry's newest movie, and it's like, all of us see it. And I've spoken to minorities and we've spoken to each other. And it's like, what do you think? You think she's being genuine? And they're like, I would slap her if she was in front of me. That's ridiculous. This is racist. And how she was kind of trying to, like, act like she got all that flavor in that, in that ridiculous manufactured interview with her and Tampon. And, you know, that's his name, by the way, officially. And it's like, she's talking to him. She's talking to him about like, oh, you didn't really season it.

And he's like, oh, no, I'm a white guy from Minnesota. And it's like, you look at him. He's probably one of the people that encouraged her to do the vasectomies at the DNC today in Chicago, because I don't know what tampons thinking, but that's not a self respecting man. I'm sorry. You're allowing that woman to basically prop you up like a little puppet and you're hating on yourself and your own people. I mean, I'm not really sure of his history, but if he has children, he should apologize to them because that is not a slow man.

Megyn Kelly
He loves cutting off body parts. So I'm sure it is him. He's like, yes, I can cut somebody else's penis. Let's do it. Let's get a whole van where they do it. I mean, ridiculous. So now I've got to ask you how you're handling the drunk Kamala meme, because I think literally every friend I have sent me texts over the weekend with videos. It's become a thing. People are starting to wonder, you know, drunk or just normal. But there's a lot of videos of her kind of slurry on the Internet. So how are you incorporating that, if at all?

Speaker
I incorporate it all the time because she's always trying to almost like, drive a point in with her hands and she tries to sound like she's going to say something so magnificent, but it's actually in the impression she's always kind of slurring. So, like, today is today. Like, her voice, it breaks all the time. It trembles. And when you add that laugh and her shoulders, and she's just out of control and she's the only one in the room laughing. She's either having a great time on something or she's just a joyful warrior, as she calls herself, which, again, that's straight out of a communism book, by the way. Hitler, Stalin, they all love to use the word joy. So I love to, you know, really underline that in my impressions as well, that she is just a joyful warrior during. Nothing to be joyful about. So, you know, trembling. Huh?

Megyn Kelly
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker
You go with the trembling. And, you know, imagine if I was on camera holding a drink and trying to look for the straw.

And if you just listen and close your eyes for a second. Well, it just, it sounds like she's hammered, right?

She's just having a good time at happy hour. And, you know, that's the best impression that I do of her, if I'm being quite frank.

Megyn Kelly
The facial expressions are so good. The listening audience has got to go to our YouTube, YouTube.com Megan Kelly and check out his day here and on her own platform because the facial expressions are so good. What you do with your mouth so truly, you just studied her and that came to you. Like, I can't even do it. But, like, you make your mouth go out there. That she does do that.

Speaker
Yeah. Yes, we can do that. Yes, we can take away your rights.

Oh, my God. You know, I can't believe the audience is even asking me that. Of course we can take away your rights.

Megyn Kelly
That's.

Speaker
That's what the Democratic Party is about.

That's it. That's what you're going to get over and over again from her. So, you know, you guys want to vote for that? Go for it.

Megyn Kelly
Yeah.

Speaker
Right on.

Megyn Kelly
Have you been enjoying the emergence over the past couple of days of the new, the new phrase, it's not new, but it's new again of the duality. You know, the duality of America. It's both strong and weak and it's.

Speaker
Just so also fragile, you know? So the duality. Right. Megan, you know, if you put up a Venn diagram right here, right. The duality, it's so fragile and it's so pure, you know, and I'm not really sure I know what I'm talking about. I just know I like the sound of the word duality. Right.

It's a great time, honestly. I've had a blast at the very least, you know, just had, it's really, it started as just an impression. Just having fun, doing her stuff verbatim, but making it my own and using it to really expose her nonsense, I mean, that's a superpower that I will take on any day.

Megyn Kelly
Do you think you'll get a call from SNL asking you to play her on Saturday Night Live?

Speaker
Absolutely nothing. You know, they went with Maya Rudolph and I'm very happy for her. I think Maya Rudolph is incredibly talented. She's so funny. One of my favorite movies is bridesmaids, but it's a little bit of a vanilla impression. And, you know, the fact that they signed her on again, and she got an Emmy for this award in the past.

I'm sorry for this impression in the past. It's a very vanilla impression. She kind of makes Kamala just seem like nice, relatable, cool, fun and energy. She doesn't insult her in any way in the cadences. It's very sad to me because I think we should be, you know, having fun with it. I love the Donald Trump impressionist. I think it's hysterical to laugh at that man. You know, he's hysterical. He says things. Listening to him, you know, when he said, you know, with his stupid face, with his stupid, you know, about Biden, like, he just says things. That's funny. There's so many people that can do the impression because he definitely has these mannerisms that are very, very specifically Trump. Right. I think anybody can kind of attempt some kind of, like, listen to me, listen, you know, some kind of Trump impression.

But, you know, it's very sad that they don't want to make fun of things the way that they once did. But I think it's a very delicate time and they would never, you know, I don't know who they're afraid of.

You know, when I come out and do Kamala, I knock the light out of everything, you know, I'm sorry about that, but it's just a demonic energy. Just sometimes it breaks glass windows and it sometimes, you know, goes through the lights. But that's okay. We'll continue. And I love, I love going the back and forth. But, yeah, listen, shout out to Maya Rudolph. I think she's great. But, you know, SNL, you got, you guys are leaving money on the table. That's the best thing, the best way that I can put it. They should be having a lot of.

Megyn Kelly
Wouldn'T hire you because you're openly conservative, too. You're openly conservative, which is a no at NBC. I can speak to that and sn s, and also, they wouldn't react well to that, but they're crazy not to because you're right. Like, there's such money sitting there right on the floor. If they just pick out this impression, put it on television, everybody will watch it and they're not interested in something that might actually legit make people laugh because it's slightly cutting, as great comedy should be.

Speaker
Well, yeah, I mean, and the powers that be really obviously don't want her made fun of. That's very clear. But it also kind of exposes their hand. It's almost like they're trying to show this picture of her, of relatable. And again, it's so manufactured that the other side of things should really question this and say, hey, if you're so proud of her, let her come out and make speeches. Let her come out and, you know, make press conferences. Let someone make fun of her. Let her own it. The fact that she does not want to hiding from the press and they're afraid to even make fun of her, I think that's very telling of today's, you know, mainstream media feel. And thank God there's people like you out there that are not afraid. I agree with John Cass, by the way. You are incredible in long form. And I think that everything happens for a reason. And this is just the way that things have to be. So if I have to do this, not mainstream media, I'll still get my voice heard because of people like Elon Musk that believe in freedom of speech and people such as yourself that can find levity in the situation no matter what side of the spectrum you're on.

Megyn Kelly
Well, you're welcome back here any time. You've been such a joy. When I discovered you, I could not get enough. I just spent like a day clicking on your videos and I've been playing them on the show and will continue to. Esther, all the best. Please come back.

Speaker
Thank you. I will. Thank you, Megan.

Megyn Kelly
Okay, you can follow Esther on x. Go to Mommy Rn, you know, like registered nurse 88. Mommy RN 88. You will not be sorry. She's spectacular. Great for like a daily laugh. And who doesn't want that? The DNC kicks off tonight. We'll be watching and we will cover it all with the fellas from ruthless tomorrow.

Thanks for listening to the Megyn Kelly show. No b's, no agenda, and no fear.

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