Diddy's Narcissistic Apology, and "Domestic Labor" in Marriage, with Allie Beth Stuckey and Britt Mayer | Ep. 799

This episode focuses on celebrity misbehavior, specifically P. Diddy's actions, and debates surrounding domestic labor and gender roles in society.

1. Celebrity actions can highlight broader societal issues and influence corporate behavior.
2. The episode critiques the media and corporate world for potentially enabling and protecting problematic behaviors by famous individuals.
3. Discussions on "domestic labor" reflect ongoing societal debates about gender roles and expectations in marriage.
4. The episode explores the tension between public image and personal actions in the context of celebrity behavior.
5. It also discusses the impact of societal expectations on personal and familial relationships.

1: Introduction

Megyn Kelly introduces the episode's themes and guests, setting the stage for discussions on corporate responsibility, celebrity behavior, and domestic labor.
Megyn Kelly: "Welcome to today's show, where we delve into pressing cultural and social issues."

2: Celebrity and Corporate Influence

The discussion starts with Target's reduction of pride-themed merchandise, leading into a critique of how corporations and celebrities influence public discourse.
Britt Mayer: "I'm glad to see corporate accountability, reflecting consumer sentiments."

3: The P. Diddy Incident

The focus shifts to a detailed analysis of P. Diddy's leaked video, discussing the implications for celebrity culture and accountability.
Megyn Kelly: "This video is a disturbing revelation of what celebrities can hide behind their fame."

4: Domestic Labor in Marriage

The episode transitions to a debate on "domestic labor," discussing how societal norms shape the division of labor in households.
Allie Beth Stuckey: "Discussing domestic responsibilities highlights broader issues of gender expectations."

5: Conclusions and Reflections

The episode concludes with reflections on how personal actions and societal roles intersect, urging listeners to consider deeper implications of what they support culturally.
Megyn Kelly: "Let's consider what our support for celebrities and corporations says about societal values."

• Reflect on the impact of celebrity culture and decide personal stances on supporting problematic figures.
• Consider how personal consumption can influence corporate policies and societal norms.
• Discuss household responsibilities to ensure they align with personal and familial values.
• Stay informed about the actions and backgrounds of public figures.
• Encourage open conversations about gender roles and expectations in personal networks.

Megyn Kelly is joined by Allie Beth Stuckey, host of BlazeTV's "Relatable," and Britt Mayer, founder of "Rooted Wings," to discuss the disturbing leaked video of Diddy's domestic violence against Cassie, his narcissistic apology now that the video has been released, the enablers of terrible behavior in Hollywood and the entertainment industry, the coverage of Harrison Butker’s graduation speech, how the left has taken it out of context, how it relates to the potential "Bennifer" split, boycotting Target for pushing radical trans ideology to kids last year, Target announcing it will reduce the Pride Month merchandise this year, whether it's a win for conservatives in the ongoing culture war, the wife TikTok influencer explaining why she won't do "domestic labor" for husband, the overall attitude of social media influencers, tradeoffs and partnerships in marriages, the sudden resignation of Miss USA and Miss Teen USA, what could be going on behind the scenes in the organization, Mayer’s personal experience with the Miss USA organization, and more.

People

P. Diddy, Cassie, Allie Beth Stuckey, Britt Mayer

Companies

Target

Books

None

Guest Name(s):

Allie Beth Stuckey, Britt Mayer

Content Warnings:

Discussions of assault and domestic violence

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Welcome to the Megyn Kelly Show Live on SiriusXM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show. Joining me now, two cultural commentators and moms fighting for their kids and all of ours. There's so much to get to, including more disturbing news about P. Diddy and news on Target's plans to reduce the number of stores selling pride themed merchandise after last year's Pride fiasco. We're almost to June. That's when this happens. Joining me now, Allie Beth Stuckey, host of Blaze TV's relatable podcast, and Brit Mayer, founder of Rooted Wings.

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Can you believe that? I haven't. It's been painful a couple times there.

Twice I've been like, oh, I just really need that new magnolia thing. I haven't done it. No. I held on to my conviction on this because I was so mad after what they did last summer. And I just felt it was so blatant and disgusting that I was going to put my money where my mouth was. And I. Yeah, I have not shopped. So, um, I'm happy to see that they are scaling back.

I am going to take it as a win because it's a step forward. Obviously, I would like to see it completely gone. But, hey, you know what? We work with what we can. And I do think that this is a big cultural victory to see them responding to consumers and saying it didn't work out so well last time. So we're going to take a step back.

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I have to say I'm still annoyed, ally Beth. I don't. I feel like, you know, we're going to walk in, in certain pockets of the country and we're still going to see the tucket bathing suit for men trying to pose as women.

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Right? So I have not shopped at target since 2021, actually. And I used to. Yes, I used to be the kind of person that would go to target all the time. And you know what? I'm not. I'm not the kind of person that says you have to boycott every single company that you disagree with. And some way my stance is that you just have to do what you can. And for me, the chest binders, like the talking, especially marketed to children, because I do think these things are marketed to adolescents. That was just too far for me. I don't care how many cute things joanna gains or that McGee company sells at Target. I can find it elsewhere. And again, I don't have a perfect life of, you know, only buying at places that wholly align with my values. But for me, Target, we have a lot of buying power as suburban moms. And so I said, you know what? I'm done. And it's been a lot easier than that, I thought. And I'm going to keep going strong because you're right. I'm still annoyed by them, too.

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Yeah. And here's what they said. So right now, they're not backing down on their messaging at all. The spokesperson put out the following. Target is committed to supporting the LGBTQIA plus community. No one even knows what those last letters mean. It's so ridiculous. During prior month and year round, however, Britt, last year, Target's quarterly sales fell for the first time in six years during the pride month quarter because so many Americans were so outraged about the nonsense with the trans ideology being shoved in our faces as we went in there to get toilet paper. And at the time, Target said through an executive that there was a strong reaction to the pride merchandise explaining the loss of sales. And the reaction was, quote, a signal for us to pause, adapt and learn. And so what have they learned? I guess they're, that they're still going to do it, but they'll do it in areas where we're not, what? Media heavy or we. I mean, you're probably going to get it in California. I'm sure I'll be getting it here.

C
I'm like, it's going to be in my stores.

B
I'm going to get it in my stores in Connecticut. I guess they're not going to put it in, like, Mississippi now. Well, that's not good enough.

C
Yeah. Oh, I totally agree. It's not good enough. For sure, it's not good enough. And until they get their, their marketing off of our kids with this agenda, then it's not good enough. I do think, though, the win is that they're taking a step back instead of a step forward. You know, they could have said, we're all in all over again, and get ready. It's going to be bigger and better than last year, but no money talks. And at the end of the day, if the money is not coming in and if enough suburban moms are saying, we'll shop elsewhere, then I do think that sends a strong message. So my encouragement to american moms would be wait and see what it looks like in your target shop. And if it's, you know, back to the same circus that it was last time, then hold out again. It's really not that hard. It's kind of like going sober. Like, once you get through the first few months, you're like, you know what? I feel great. I am saving money and I feel really good.

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I also haven't been in target in forever, but it's just because I don't, I don't generally go to target. I'm not sure exactly where I go. I think I just feed Jeff Bezos and his wife no non existent dresses. I think that's kind of what I'm doing. That's how we get our toilet paper and our massive, you know, whatever anyway, I don't care about them, but I'm actually going to do the opposite this year, ladies. I'm going to make a point of going into the target just to see if they have it. And then I'm going to be really loud in person and through this microphone to call attention to it if I see it. Same. Okay, same. I gotta talk to you about P. Diddy. I haven't had the chance to address this since it broke.

I wasn't on the air on Friday and that's when it hit on CNN. And this tape of him beating his then girlfriend Cassie is about the most disturbing thing I've seen in a couple of years, other than the horrific child torture videos that sometimes pop up on x.

For those of you who haven't seen it, I think we have it. And this happened on March 5, 2016? Yeah, we do. It was from the hotel intercontinental in LA. It is disturbing. And here it is, it's Diddy. First it's Cassie, his girlfriend, walking down the hall. You can see she's grabbed things. He's running in a towel. Only after her running, clearly, he catches up with her.

He grabs her by the back of the head, shoves her to the ground, he kicks her hard, grabs her stuff because he wants to get her out of there, kicks her again, and seems to pull her by her hair or head out of there, out of the view of the camera.

And we ultimately know, according to her lawsuit, at least he took her back to the hotel room where she claims he hid her for days so people couldn't see the bruises and that this was not a one time thing.

I mean, ladies, he's a disgusting pig. He's a monster. He's a criminal. He belongs in jail. And I believe every word she wrote in that lawsuit. Every word. We did a show just one week ago today, last Wednesday, with a lawyer who works for law and crime, where we outlined all the allegations against him. And like you would do as any good journalist, we inserted a hefty amount of skepticism. We don't know the lawyer who represents a lot of these plaintiffs has been chastised by the bar for. By the judge for being a little too salacious in the allegations. You know what? Because they're true. At least this one was true.

And this man's career is over. I mean, you tell me. But this, to me, is an example of what enormous money and fame can do to corrupt not just those around you, but an entire industry. Because Britt, the intercontinental took $50,000 from Diddy, reportedly to hide that tape. He went to them knowing he was on camera. He paid them 50 grand. And why didn't they run to the cops instead of taking the $50,000?

There's going to be a litany of people who know the truth about him, who saw things like this over and over, who covered up for him. He's guilty, but he's not the only one.

C
Yeah, he's a total animal. That's animal beast behavior. And I was reading, too, on the story that apparently after she left the hotel, she came back and the hotel said, just get back in the taxi. We saw what happened. It's like, how is this all just now coming out, that everyone was running cover for him? But the reality is that humans make very bad gods. And when we elevate people to these positions where they are totally detached from objective right and wrong, and they're just idolized, like, this is what happens, you know, and then they can protect their. Their godness with money, and they just become demons. I mean, it is demonic. That video, for people who didn't get to see it, it is so disturbing. And it reminds me of that same feeling I got seeing those videos from the October 7 with. With the girls, you know, being pulled into, just treated like chattel. And that's what happens when people are so unhitched from what is righteous and what is good, that they make themselves gods and human gods behave like demons. And I hope that his career is completely over and that he loses his hold of idolatry because it was. There is zero justification for what he did. And he denied it at first, and now he's coming out all these years later with, like, this half half assed apology, you know? No, no, it was wicked beyond words. And, yeah, I hope you're all the right words.

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It was. It was wicked. That was animal like behavior. And Ally Beth, his apology is nothing. Nothing like a real apology. We'll play part of it. Here he is now. After he was caught, after someone leaked the tape to CNN. First Brits. Right? He smeared Cassie when she made an allegation of this exact thing in her complaint. He denied it, said she was a liar and said it was all a money grab.

And here he is now, after he's caught with his quote unquote, apology.

It's so difficult to reflect on the.

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Darkest times in your life.

Sometimes you gotta do that.

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I was fucked up.

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I mean, I hit rock bottom, but I make no excuses. My behavior on that video is inexcusable.

I take full responsibility for my actions in that video.

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I'm disgusted.

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I was disgusted then when I did it.

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I'm disgusted now.

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I went and I sought out professional help.

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All right, sure. When? With whom, exactly? Let's have a name. Let's see the dates. It's a lie. I don't believe one word of that. According to these multiple lawsuits, Allie Beth, he's been doing this to multiple people, male and female, for years.

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Typical narcissistic apology, quote unquote apology. I I me. It was such a dark time, almost painting himself as a victim, like he was just a victim of the darkness in his mind. He was a victim of his circumstances. He said that he was disgusted with his behavior then as it was happening, not disgusting enough to take your hands off of her, not disgusted enough at your behavior to stop abusing her and kicking her and pulling her down the hallway. You were not disgusted with your behavior. I'm sorry. I don't buy that. He's disgusted with his behavior now. This is not a repentant person, and it really does disgust me. The network of people that were required to hide something like this, even when she tried to speak, speak up. It took not just p. Diddy, but all of the people around him. So many different touch points, so many different people who had the opportunity to say, yeah, I saw that, too, who were silenced by intimidation, silenced by his power, silenced by money. Who knows? But I'm thankful now. I'm thankful now that we have the footage of this horrifying incident, and I'm thankful that her testimony is being validated there.

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The complaints, we just went through them, as I said last week, so they're fresh on the mind. But there are allegations, including the file, and I should state for the record, he denies all of them. Also for the record, he denied that he beat her in a hotel.

There is an allegation that she at one point exchanged some sort of emojis with the rapper.

What is it RQD? Forget me, forgive me, I can't remember his name. Kid cutie. That's what it is. And that Diddy said, I'm going to light his car on fire. I'm going to set his car on fire and set a bomb in his car. And I'm sure, totally coincidentally, that that guy had a bomb in his car. His car blew up soon thereafter. Kid Cudi, I guess it's Cudi, not cutie, whatever it is.

There's allegation after allegation of the serial intoxication of women against their will, drugging of women, lacing bottles of alcohol, with some sort of drug that was not disclosed to the women and then forcing them to, while intoxicated and completely drugged out, to engage in sex acts with sex workers who they did not consent to be with or know were coming in. Not to mention violence, beating up, rape, manhandling, that she tried to leave him. She met him in a public place. This is an allegation that he denies. To tell him, I don't want to be in your life at all anymore, and that as soon as she went back home, he pushed his way in and raped her. Is it hard to believe at all seeing that tape? Not even a little.

And so you're right, Britt, because what happens is, diddy, I never paid much attention to the guy, but he's huge.

He's got. He's got more money than God. He's enormously successful. And his tentacles, like, a couple years ago, he released a video for his 50th birthday of all these names. It recirculated recently because the dopes on TikTok were like, those are all the people he's going to bring down, right? Those are the people in on his sex ring. Oprah. Okay. You could have your issues with Oprah. She's not part of a sex ring.

It wasn't. It was people who attended his 50th birthday, and it was a who's who of american celebrity and beyond. He's partied with Prince Harry.

You want to tell me those parties were like a party that the three of us would throw for one another, right? That we would attend, that we're going to bring our girlfriends to. No, they slightly different. These people saw a level of debauchery. I don't know if it was that bad, but a level of treatment and debauchery and behavior that they knew was wrong. And the closer you get to him, the more actual in on it you're likely to find that a lot of people are going to go down here.

C
Mm hmm. Yeah. I wonder why people feel the need to protect. Maybe that is. That's just the power, right? Like, it's the money and the power and the godlikeness of these people that we elevate into these positions. But it is wild to think so many had to have known what he was up to and that he was no good garbage, that he was a horrible, horrible human being, a worthless guy, and they kept him elevated. And that's, I mean, it's an indictment on our culture. It's an indictment on entertainment and these people that we have set into positions that our kids watch and they are. You know, we glamorize these people and make them almost perfect.

It's just a sad state of our culture.

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All right, this leads me to weirdly or maybe not, because there's a connection.

Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck, who according to multiple publications now page six of the New York Post, the Daily Mail, may be splitting up, which, that he's reportedly gotten another home that he's living in without her and that Jennifer Garner, his ex, is reportedly begging him to stay with J. Lo because she's been reportedly a stabilizing force in his life. Who knows? You know, they're all planting articles at this point against each other in all likelihood.

And I have to say to me, Ally Beth, this is another example of the worship of the almighty dollar and celebrity and this just fame, right? This false God of, to use Brits term of fame. They go out there. These two have, they spent two minutes with each other. They've been all over the movies, the ads. Occasionally they get a picture of themselves on a yacht. Meanwhile, it seems from the tabloids that both of their children on both sides are having some real issues and these two are too focused on their careers and themselves, this is my opinion, to save their marriage, their well being and their children's stable existence.

C
Yeah.

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Yeah. And, you know, obviously this is all just our opinion. I don't think any of us know them personally. But my assessment is that they kind of got swept up in the media excitement of them coming back together. I think people were excited that, oh, my gosh, it's so nostalgic. Early two thousands, late nineties. J. Lo and Ben, they're getting back together. It felt like we were kind of going back in time. And this is amazing. Maybe they got swept up in that because everyone loves to be affirmed and applauded. They got together. Maybe they realized, you know what, there was a reason why we broke up in the first place. And this is still very unstable to me. Outside looking in, it looks turbulent, it looks volatile, it looks emotional. I guess maybe there's some attraction there. They like to go down memory lane, but it just doesn't look like a staple.

Go ahead. I'm sure that's my, that's basically my theory. It's turbulent.

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She got together with him after a rod cheated on her. Remember this? He cheated with a reality tv star, even though he was with J. Lo. And like that, she was back with Ben Affleck, pictured on the yacht like that.

She was trying to change the narrative in the press. She didn't like J. Lo got cheated on. And of course, the press, to your point earlier, Allie Beth ran with it. Oh, my God, Bennifer, they're back together. Yay, memory lane. Here we go. We're on it. And the whole thing to me, and I said it on the time, at the time, on the air, seemed very much to me like a pr maneuver that they were orchestrating the cameras. She orchestrates the cameras everywhere she goes. Let's face it, there are people who are far more famous than Jennifer Lopez who do not get pictured every week going grocery shopping, going to the gym, going out to dinner. I mean, hello, Taylor Swift is probably the most famous woman in the world. We don't see that of her. We don't see it of Julia RobErts we don't see it of a lot of these Hollywood stars, but we see J lo. And by the way, to look at the music industry, dua Lipa, all these, like, all of them, they're way more famous than she is now. But we don't see it. Why? Because they're not calling the paparazzi at every turn, saying, please get me, please publish me, please look at me, please give me pr. Because I'm nothing without attention.

And according to these reports in the tabloids, these two have a split over how much attention is enough attention. He doesn't want as much, and she wants a never ending amount. There was a quote, I think, in the Daily Mail of him saying, you know, I realized it's kind of like saying to a fish or to a boat captain, okay, I'll marry you, but I don't really like all the water.

And how this is an impossibility for the other person.

So that's a quote by him. You know, reportedly, they're denying that they're even having marital problems. For the record, it's. I don't believe that. So to me, this whole thing is an example of the wrong priorities.

It's fine to have a career. It's great to have a career. But chasing money, chasing fame, chasing attention from strangers, is not the way to a happy life. A happy marriage, a happy parent child relationship, or just a happy and healthy heart and soul. That's what I see. Britt.

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Yeah.

C
You know, I'm laughing because as you were, as you were sharing your thoughts, I could only picture Meghan Markle and Harry. It's like, it's the same thing. It's the same thing.

I think that what's sad is some of these people, they, they live for the hit, right? They live for the story and for always being in the news and always being the headline. It's the same spirit of, they have their little engine in order to go, needs the fame.

It's the same. They should be friends.

B
I don't know. To me, it's just so disheartening because you see the media go along with it, like, yeah, they're great. And then when we see these problems with their kids, they're like, that's great, too. No problem. And there's no article, for example, on what divorce, multiple divorces in both of their cases do to children. Nothing, ally Beth, that will not get covered by the fawning media.

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No, of course, because we keep perpetuating this myth. I mean, the progressive mainstream, of course, the media is a part of that. That any type of family, no matter how fragmented, no matter how turbulent, is completely fine. That the child is somehow unaffected by it. As long as they have some attachment somewhere, as long as they have some adults that love them somewhere, they'll be fine. When all of the social science data has been telling us for 50 years that kids benefit from intact marriages in an intact family. But in this, like. To use kind of some terminology that we've been using, this conversation, this, like, God of self mentality, uh, that we have in our culture, that you sacrifice everything, everyone else's needs and well being on the altar of your wants. We get a lot of glorified and trendy narcissism and selfishness that is cast as self love and self discovery and self fulfillment. No, it's just selfishness. And you're allowing other people, namely children, to suffer from that. And I agree, that's a really sad part of the story.

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Yep.

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This. This is the entry point. I think this is the property entry point into the harrison. But comments at this graduation event, taken, you know, out of context, in a vacuum, I will grant he sounds like he is not so pro working wife and mother, but you have to understand, I think, in listening to him, it's a countercultural response. He's trying to rehabilitate a possibility for women that gets dumped on universally in the mainstream media. That's, I think, the context behind this guy's remarks, again, which will go ignored in all the reporting and has on what he said. So he's the kicker for the Kansas City chiefs. And he gave a commencement address to a catholic university and has been getting excoriated. There are still today pushes and a petition with tens of thousands of names on it to have him fired. There is a real push to get him fired from the chiefs for comments he made, not in his uniform, not while representing the chiefs at this catholic university.

News flash. Catholics have certain beliefs.

Maybe you didn't google them, you know, before you decided to pass your judgment, but here's, in part how he got himself in hot water. 35.

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I want to speak directly to you briefly, because I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolical lies told to you. How many of you are sitting here now about to cross this stage and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are going to get in your career? Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world, I can tell you that my beautiful wife Isabel would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.

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He went on to add, it can't be overstated that all of my success is made possible because a girl I met in band class and here he got teary back in middle school, would convert to the faith, become my wife, and embrace one of the most important titles of all, homemaker. Now, this has led to a full meltdown on the left, the Today show. Oh, they were horrified.

Maria Shriver with a whole rebuttal. I mean, and like, the left wing TikTokers are very upset, Britt, about him telling graduates, as of that day, female graduates, you know what I just said? The best role is homemaker, and you've been sold a bill of goods about, you know, what a career would look like and motherhood might be okay for you. That's their take on what he said. What do you think?

C
Well, you're right. When you isolate comments out of context, you can make it whatever you want it to be, and that's clearly what they're doing. What he spoke is an assault on our modern day narrative that in order to be something in society, you have to go put on the girl boss shorts and leave your kids at home. And that's going to make you a real woman. And it's been the pervasive lie the feminist movement fed us for a very long time. But in it, what that lie did was, it's said if you pursue anything other than that, you're less than worthy. You would just, you'd want to be a mom. You'd want to take on that menial job, really. So I wholeheartedly stand with, with. But Kerr, I think what he spoke in full context was so beautiful and so grounded in truth and traditional Christian, and that's why they hate it, because it's such an assault on the modern lies. But I would encourage young women everywhere who heard that speech and are caught up in this, like he said, she said, right now, to dream with all your heart of the beauty and glory of being a mom. I have achieved so much in my life, and I've held roles, you know, when I was Miss California and first runner up at Miss USA, and I had tremendous opportunities presented to me. I've lived that. And I can tell you, it all pales collectively when I compare it to my role as a wife to my teenage sweetheart and a mom to my two beautiful kids. All of that pales so I wholeheartedly agree with what he spoke. And I think it's a worthy thing for young women to hear that there is value in being a mom in our modern day ally.

B
Beth, you're a working mom. You know, you've got it all. You're doing a show and you've got young kids. What did you think of it? And you're a Christian.

D
Yes. And you know what? I'm not a Catholic. And there were plenty of things that I probably didn't agree with in what he said. But here's what I don't understand is that other people who disagreed with him a lot more fundamentally than I did because I agreed with the spirit of everything he said, even if I would take issue with some sentences here or there, I don't understand the absolute freak out and meltdown. I saw people, even women who might consider themselves conservatives, saying, who is he to tell women what to do? We're tired of being bossed around. I'm like, dude, he was giving a speech, as you said, at the catholic university. He was asked to speak there. He wasn't talking to you. No one forced you to listen to him, to watch him. No one forced you to weigh his words. He's not making you do anything. He is not going to walk into your cubicle and tell you to get pregnant and make him a sandwich. He's not doing that. He has no power over your life. He's sharing a perspective. You can say that you have a different perspective. But for you, I think I saw this on the views. Sarah Haynes or whatever, she was like, oh, if these words are oppressing other people and holding them back, then you're not really walking with Jesus, lady. He's saying words. He's saying words. You're going to be okay. He has no authority to tell you what to do. He's sharing a traditionally catholic perspective. And I say, good for him.

B
Let me tell you as a Catholic, when you get married in the catholic church and you do precana the premarital counseling with the priest, they make you say you're going to have children.

You, you take a pledge behind the scenes, yes, I will have kids. And by the way, I've said before, I'm going through this process of getting an annulment so that Doug and I can get married in a catholic church. And there, too, one of the potential grounds for annulling your marriage is you weren't actually committed to having children or he wasn't actually, I mean, it's a principle within Catholicism. Him saying don't forget to have the children is perfectly in line with what the catholic church teaches. So your point about this was a catholic audience. He was asked to address them as fellow Catholics. Like, I guess that's just not allowed. But it does bother me. Like, my audience knows. Obviously, I'm in favor of working women, very much so, and have done a lot of it myself. But I do hate how any defense of the stay at home choice really does get sort of like, you're so provincial. Like, you're so cute.

C
Okay.

B
Like, the secret underlying judgment seems to be women who stay at home are kind of dumb.

They couldn't make it. They just. They couldn't make it. And so it's good to see somebody famous and successful like that saying no. Right on. It's an amazing choice. And let me make you all feel great about it. Yes. Even though you just went to college and got a degree and could easily just go right into the professional lane and completely eschew motherhood and being a wife, like, let me validate it as a great option if you choose to take it. Britt?

C
Yeah, I think, too, with all of this, one thing that really is in, like, the horizon of all of this is that we hear live your truth. Live your truth. Be bold in your truth. But then as soon as that truth comes in conflict with the narrative in caps, well, not that truth, and we're going to persecute you and we're going to make sure that you get fired from your job, because we. Not that truth. You can only live the truth that we approve of, and that's not the way it works. So that when you hear people say, live your truth, that's a lie. They only want you to repeat the narrative that they approve of. And anything short of that will be demonized. And it will, they will assault it because that doesn't work. It's not true. They want their narrative and only their narrative and nothing that comes in conflict with that.

B
So this actually is a good place to talk about what you're about to do. Ali Beth, with the blaze on this. It's called share the arrows, an event that's coming up in September. What is it?

D
Yeah. Thank you so much. So this is an event bringing together christian conservative women. You don't have to be christian and conservative to come. You do have to be a woman to.

But this is bringing together like minded women who were looking at the state of the world, the chaos, the confusion, the deceit that we see, how it's affecting us, how it's affecting our children, how it's affecting women and girls specifically. And we're wondering, what in the world can we do? Not everyone has a platform like we three do. And they're wondering, how can I, as a stay at home mom, as a wife, or maybe as an employee, as a company, at a company, as a teacher, what can I do to push back against the darkness? What can I do to infuse clarity and courage in this age of chaos and confusion? So that's what this event is about. We're gonna have a few of the leading christian voices as speakers to speak into the chaos of gender ideology, of racial ideology, all the progressive assault that we are seeing on our culture today and what we can do to simply do the next right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God. And the reason it's called share the arrows. That's a term that we use a lot on my show. Whenever you see someone, and, Megan, you're so good at this. Whenever you see someone who is taking some kind of heat, taking the arrows from the mainstream, from the media, for standing up for a controversial position, rather than us saying, oh, I'm so glad that's not me. I'm glad that I'm not the one getting the arrows, and I'm going to hide over here and pretend like I don't agree with them. No, no, no. Instead, we should be standing up and saying, you know what you're reaming them for?

I agree with her. That's me, too. So if you're going to throw the arrows at her, you're going to have to throw them my way, too. It's powerful. Courage. Courage is contagious. And when we all stand up together and say, what air, whatever arrows you're going to throw at her, you can send them my way. Um, I think that's a really powerful force to be reckoned with.

B
I like that. I love that a lot. Britt, you should go to that, and then you guys should come back on and we'll talk about that.

C
Oh, I'm planning on it.

D
Yes. Y'all are invited. September 28, Dallas, Texas. At a really big church here. And we have so far already exceeded our expectations. So I'm very excited and really thankful.

B
That's awesome. That's September 28. Steve Krakauer just reminded me that's the. The birthday of our show, 2020. So we'll be turning four when you are celebrating that, I think, also, yay. So much happened in those four years on the subject of marriage. Before we leave it, I do want to get to this? This is a, this is. You hear this kind of stuff a lot from these young women on tick tock, where I don't go, but my staff does. And they know I post on TikTok, but I just. It's not my thing. But I want my message out in front of the young people. So I have no problem posting there until it is banned and no longer available in the United States.

There is a mom influencer, mom fluencer, whatever her name is, Paige Connell. And she had some thoughts on the division of labor in a marriage. Listen to this.

G
So here's a list of things that I don't do for my husband. I don't do his laundry. He can do that himself. I do my laundry and we do the kids laundry, but he does his own. I don't cook dinner. He cooks dinner every single night. I do breakfast and lunch for us and our kids. I don't pack him a lunch. If he's hungry, he'll figure out what he's going to eat for lunch the same way that I do. I don't make his doctor's appointments because guess what? He's not making mine. Would it be kind of me to do that? For sure. Is it my job? Absolutely not. Doing his laundry, cooking him dinner, making him lunch, booking his doctor's appointments, all those things, that's domestic labor. Do I do them occasionally when he's working a lot?

B
Of course.

G
It's not my job as a wife. It is not in my job description to do all the domestic labor as small acts of kindness to my partner and receive nothing in return.

B
She seems fine. Ally Beth, what do you think? Yeah.

D
Yeah, she's super annoying to me. Now, I don't think that you have to make your husband's doctor's appointments in order to be qualified as a good wife and mom. I think you and your husband can decide the division of labor. I think that that's fine. It is her attitude, her entitlement, her posturing here that I'm not going to do that because that's domestic labor and I deserve to be compensated for that. It's not enough for me just to do it out of grace and kindness for my husband. That is the wrong attitude. That I guarantee is a recipe for a power struggle and disaster down the line. So it's not even necessarily that I take issue with what she and her husband decide that they're going to do. As far as chores, whatever you could decide upon that. But this attitude I just found really, really off putting.

B
I just like so much of the messaging from young people these days. Britt is like, there's going to be, like, a contract agreement between the two of us. It's going to be written down. This is how, I mean, there's a whole book that was very successful. Successful that speaks to exactly this. I don't get it. Right. Like, in my marriage, we're just kind of organic. It's like, I don't know how Doug got in charge of taking out the garbage, and I'm not. It's just cleverness and ignoring the job by me over many, many years. Like, I have more organically.

I don't get, like, this, the negotiation, like, everything seems so point driven. You know, like, well, we're in competition with one another. And, like, me doing more for you is somehow a loss for me, even though you're the person, or at least one of them, including my children, who I love more than anyone else on this earth. How is this, like, a win loss ratio?

C
Yeah, I mean, what Allie said, she annoys me. I went through her TikTok, and every single one of her posts is like that. I almost think that it's like a Persona she's created. And that's like the whole social contagion is. It's like you have to put on this act and really get those shares, you know? So you're going to say something super controversial to get people to click it and share it because you want that fame. That's what I get from her. I agree. My husband and I, like, are very much like you, Megan, where stuff just happened organically. It wasn't like we drew out this contract of, you're going to do this, I'm going to do this. It just happened over the course of 15 years. Yes. And I do agree with some of the things she said. Like, my husband does his own laundry because when we were dating, he made it very clear that he didn't want me to shrink his stuff, so he just, he does his own laundry. And it's not any, like, yeah, me, like, I'm not going to take on that menial labor, but that's what she made it into. And I think that's what Allie was saying that I agree with. It's the spirit behind it. It's the spirit of this weird competition. And I think it's also the social contagion of you're going to post something to get people talking. You know, you're right.

B
I'm like, can you imagine, like, what life is like between the sheets for these two, like, I was just on top for five minutes. Now I want you on top. No, it's what? It's it's unequal. No, come on. It's gotta be perfectly even.

C
You went there. You went there.

B
Honestly, like, I had two orgasms. You have to have two orgasms. What kind of a weird relationship is this? I'm gonna write it down in my little tally.

C
It makes you think I have six brothers. I would never set them up with someone like her.

B
No. Heck, no. No. God, no.

That's a problem. She doesn't realize how unattractive she's making herself. And I guarantee that the husband is not a manly man. That was another thing that Harrison Bucker was right about. In fact, let me play that. Soundbite SOT 36 to the gentlemen here today.

E
Part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities. As men, we set the tone of the culture. And when that is absent, disorder, dysfunction and chaos set in. This absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence we see all around the nation. Other countries do not have nearly the same absentee father rates as we find here in the US. And a correlation could be made in their drastically lower violence rates as well. Be unapologetic in your masculinity, fighting against the cultural emasculation of men.

Do hard things never settle for what is easy.

B
Amen. Ellie Beth.

D
So good masculinity, like all different forms of strength, can be wielded both for good and for evil. The same masculinity that can be used in negative aggression, used in a way to intimidate women, like we saw with P. Diddy, is also the kind of masculinity that builds civilizations and that protects virtue and protects the most vulnerable. And so all this talk about toxic masculinity, you forget how necessary masculinity is for the flourishing for the survival of families, of communities, of societies. And so I'm really glad to hear him say that because he's absolutely right.

B
All right, last question. I've got to ask you about this, Brit. Something weird is going on with the missing USA and Miss Teen USA, both of whom have just resigned, like, within the span of a couple of weeks of one another.

You were miss USA, first runner up. You were Miss California.

So the first gal, Miss USA, resigned, Noella Voight, and she said it was about her mental health. That's why she was piecing out of the contest or the role, not the contest. She already won.

And then people noticed that in her post, the first letter in each sentence of her statement revealed the phrase, I am silenced.

And then the teen USA.

Um, Sofia srazvastas. I don't have it. Srivastava. She resigned.

Srivastava. Sorry. Forget. Forgive me. I'm Sophia.

She resigned, saying, okay, I'll look back on this time fondly. It was fulfilling, but my personal values no longer fully aligned with the direction of the organization. Then their moms, not them, because they're under NDA's gone on GMA and also sounded rather cryptic. But here's what they said.

C
Fans online noticed immediately when Noelia posted her resignation online that the sentences seemed to start with letters that spelled out, I am silenced.

B
Correct. Judge.

C
Was that intentional on her part?

B
I don't feel comfortable answering that question.

C
Do you feel like she was silenced? Um, she is.

B
And she will be the rest of her life if this NDA is not being left. The girls need to speak. So I want to make clear it's not about what they didn't get, about the prices. It's about how they were ill treated, abused, bullied, and cornered. Look at what happened to Noelia, Uma, Sofia.

So really pay attention. We don't want them to go through this. Right now is not the right time to participate.

C
So you think that young women should essentially stop participating in these types of pageants?

G
Absolutely.

B
We just don't want these families and these girls to go through what we're going through.

Hmm. All right, britt, what do you make of it?

C
Well, I think I should remind people that these are the first title holders under the we men. Remember the wee men, the new transgender director.

Remember, like, the wee men. I make a pageant for we men, and we're like, yeah, you can't even say women.

So these are the first title holders under him. And when you have someone at the top who is clearly unwell, who is clearly mentally off, and he's in responsible for all these young women who are very impressionable. And when I competed in the Miss USA system, man, they, like, they go after every little bit of you. That's not perfect, to make it perfect. And there's a lot of stuff that's very questionable. I was actually. Donald Trump was my boss when I was in the Miss USA system because it was his organization then. But my direct director was a man who had been married, who then became gay. And there were real weird things that happened in dressing rooms with him, like measuring my body and stuff that you just kind of like, are doe eyed, you know, because you're young and you don't know any different. You're thrown into this. But I can only imagine with a direct, like, they have now running the circus, what's going on. Clearly there's stuff that's really wrong. And my heart goes out to those girls because I know it was probably terrifying for them to leave their titles after hitting that high. Says a lot that something went really, really bad. But I can't say I'm shocked. I can't say I'm surprised.

B
All we know so far is that the Miss USA, Noelle Voigt, she resigned in a letter, and the letter was reported.

It was the New York Times and NBC who obtained a copy of it. And she writes as follows, in part, there is a toxic work environment within the Miss USA organization that at best is poor management and at worst is bullying and harassment.

Went on to say Miss USA CEO and President Leila Rose consistently failed to communicate. And that's.

And that when she did, she was often cold and unnecessarily aggressive. It's incredibly jarring to try to do my job and constantly be threatened with disciplinary action, including taking away my salary for things that were never discussed with me. And if it related to a public facing post, for example, we're causing no issue other than not meeting her personal preference, she wrote. She included details about an alleged incident of sexual harassment at a Christmas event in Florida, writing, she was left alone in a car with a man who made several inappropriate statements to me about his desire to enter into a relationship with me. Voight said that when Rose was made aware of her situation, Rose told Voight, we cannot prevent people saying things to you at public appearances. It is, unfortunately, part of the role you're in as a public figure. Well, hello. The answer to that is obviously to keep a chaperone with her. That would discourage any such behavior.

Voight said she had been diagnosed with anxiety, for which she'd been prescribed medication. It sounds like it was rather unpleasant for these young women.

It would take a lot. It would take a lot, Britt, to get them to renounce the roles. So the head of Miss Universe, which oversees Miss USA, that pageant, that's the wee men person who's a trans person, a man pretending to be a woman.

The Miss Universe organization, from now on, it's gonna be ran by women, owned by trans women, for all women.

For all women, really, around the world, to celebrate the power of feminism.

All right, well, good luck to these women, and they're welcome here to tell their story anytime. And we'll even have Britt and Ali Beth back so they can feel supported and loved. Ladies, thank you both so much for joining me today.

D
Thank you.

B
Look forward to seeing you again soon and to the audience. We'll be back tomorrow with someone who hates small talk as much as I do. Charlamagne the God makes his first appearance on the Megyn Kelly show. See you then.

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