Dems Disrespect Biden as They Kick Him Out, and Fake Speeches and Lies at the DNC, with the Ruthless Podcast Hosts

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Megyn Kelly
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Josh Holmes
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Megyn Kelly
Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show. Oh, we have so much to go over. An unbelievable day one at the Democratic National Convention. And by unbelievable, I mean we got to watch a final knife in the back to the man who we are told is still the leader of the free world. And according to the democrats, who saved democracy, and this is their thanks.

Last month, the Democrats pushed Joe Biden right out of the democratic nomination for a second term. Then they told us he would get a big celebration on night one of the DNC, the prelude to his ascension to Mount Rushmore. Instead, he didn't even make it into the prime time. It was bad enough they had him booked to speak on Monday, which is where the sea stringers go, but they moved him. He got delayed right out of the prime time by a lot. In fact, so much so that his speech ended on day two of the convention. They did not put him up there until 1130 east coast time. I guess they don't care if the people in Georgia hear him. The people in North Carolina hear him. The people in New York and DC who drive the news cycles hear him. Okay, fine. It's your party.

Uh, it's not to mention it was way past the guy's preferred bedtime. I mean, we heard him himself on that call with the governors when he was trying to assure everybody he could do a second term, saying, I really can't do things past 08:00 p.m. anymore. I'm going to make sure I don't do that. And what do they do? They book him to start at 10:00 and they don't let him start speaking until 1130. Instead, we heard a long list of no names get up there trying to make their own. Who wanted to hear from Chris Coons? For the love of God, who gives a shit what he has to say? Put on Joe Biden. He's the sitting president I, like, I'm not his chief defender, but it's the least you could have done just to pay the guy his respect for a lifetime of service to the Democrat party. But no, they needed to put the final treads on Joe Biden's back.

That's a amazing. He got up there. There wasn't exactly a passing of the torch. He did say some nice things about Kamala. His proudest thing was to make her his vice president and that, you know, he saved democracy. She's going to preserve it.

But the feature, the speech was mostly focused on his own lengthy political career. It was his swan song moment. And for most of it, he was shouting at us as dark Brandon returned. You know, like there's the Bruce Wayne and then the Batman character, only Batman is a lot cooler than dark Brandon. Well, the, the darker version of Joe Biden was there for virtually the entire time, railing against former President Trump and doing so with over and over and over again lies that have been debunked.

Donald Trump
Donald Trump said, and I quote, there are very fine people on both sides. My God, that's what he said.

That is what he said. And what he meant from his own chief of staff, four star general John Kelly, that Trump went in Europe, would not go to the grave sites in one of the France.

The brave service members who gave the lives of this country. He called them suckers and losers. Who in the hell does he think he is?

Who does he think he is?

He's promising a bloodbath if he loses in his words.

Megyn Kelly
I mean, like, literally none of that is true. All of it is out of context.

Fine people on both sides. I mean, how many times does that need to be debunked? Including by snopes, which is the Democrats favorite fact checking machine. He keeps telling he doesn't give a shit. Like the alternate realities, according to Joe Biden. Where are all the excited fact checkers? Where are they? Come on, come on. You love to fact check everybody on the right do your business.

Bloodbath. He was talking about the economy and what was going to happen in the auto industry if that was Trump talking, if Joe Biden got reelected, we know all this dictator on day one was said jokingly, laughingly to Sean Hannity on camera about what he would do at the border. Kind of like what Joe Biden did with all of his executive orders undoing Trump's border policy. This is so ridiculous.

Okay.

Despite evidence to the contrary, Joe Biden did want you to know he's really not angry about what was done to him. At all.

Donald Trump
See, it's been the honor of my lifetime to serve as your president.

I love the job, but I love my country more.

I love my country more.

And all this talk about how I'm angry with all those people who said I should step down, that's not true.

Megyn Kelly
Sure, Jan. And in perhaps the most stunning scene of the entire night, there was former speaker Nancy Pelosi Brutus herself waving a we love Joe sign with the big smile, at least as far as the Botox would allow.

Like trying to look like she's his number one fan.

Wait till you. I mean, look at her. Front row. We love Jo. We love Joe. We love, we love. It's like something out of a horror movie where the person's like, we love you. We love you, as they stick the knife and turn it and turn it and you're dying. And she's like, we love you, but I love you. That's what happened there.

It was. The whole humiliation made me uncomfortable. I got to be honest. I tweeted something out last night to the effect of this, like watching a groom who was dumped on the morning of his wedding day, who then is forced to go to the wedding anyway and watch his bride marry someone else and cheer for it. That's how the whole thing made me feel. He didn't want this. Didn't want to be deposed from the nomination. He had won legitimately. I get why it happened, but he didn't want it.

He had to show up. He had to say nice things about Kamala. He did that. But they kept grandpa in, in a green room for hours. 81 years old, well past Matlock tapioca time, and then forced him to go out there at 1130 east coast time, which is his time. He lives in DC and Delaware and do this speech. No wonder he was angry.

President Biden now begins a week long tour to support Kamala Harrison. No, no.

He's being shipped off on vacation. Vacation from what? He's literally been sitting in Rehoboth, Delaware, for weeks doing nothing. We read you the real clear politics rundown of his schedule in August. He's been doing nothing every day, Vice President Biden's schedule. Nothing like one phone call, one ceremonial appearance. So now he needs a vacation from all that. Who is president?

Who is commander in chief?

He's going to California.

He's going to enjoy the beautiful sunsets, seashores.

His party moves forward, though, with the coronation of Vice President Kamala Harris. And that's just the start of what we witnessed last night. I got a lot of thoughts, and so did the fellas. They're here from the ruthless program. Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, John Ashbrook, and the man known to his minions as comfortably smug.

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I'm so happy you guys are here.

Josh Holmes
What a rundown.

Michael Duncan
Yeah, I mean, I think that was a pretty good analysis of what had happened.

Megyn Kelly
They're so nasty. Just as they had me feeling sorry for Joe Biden. He got up there and told all those lies, and I was like, he deserved it. What did you guys think of last night?

Josh Holmes
Well, I mean, look, I particularly liked your jilted groom analogy. That was pretty good. I've always kind of wanted to go to a wedding where somebody doesn't show up and you have to look around at the crowd and see how they take it. I mean, this is what Democrats basically did to him. They just ragdolled him in public. I mean, Monday, Monday, Republicans put the Teamsters guy. They didn't want the rest of the party to hear on Monday night. At least they had the common decency to do it within the confines of the hours that people still watch television. They didn't even do that to Joe Biden. You know, I mean, with any other sitting president, you would imagine that you are introducing the new nominee, right? I mean, if not for Joe Biden, Kamala Harris wouldn't be within a country mile of a democratic nomination for president. And yet Monday night, late night, and also, was there no editors on that speech? The thing was like, what, 45 minutes.

Michael Duncan
Or something like that?

Josh Holmes
And on and on.

John Ashbrook
The jilted groom is a very good analogy. Another one that comes to mind. I don't know if you've ever saw that old movie best in show by Christopher Guest, of course. But there's a vignette toward the beginning of it where there's this lady who's taken a tycoon, this old tycoon, for all he's worth, and she's sitting next to him, and she's like, people say he's so much older than me, but really, I just can't keep him off of me. And the whole time she's just taking his money and the guy can't even talk, and he's just sitting there. Jennifer Coolidge, this is what democrats are doing to their president.

Comfortably Smug
It's a really pathetic swan song to a long political career. Shuffled to midnight first night of the debate, standing on that stage and saying, democracy wondeh. Sitting on that stage as the person who won all the votes in the primary and talking about how we're going to anoint Kamala Harris, who won zero votes. How is that democracy winning?

Josh Holmes
It is incredible.

Megyn Kelly
Speaker one and Duncan also, honesty matters. He actually said honesty matters right before he said, he's the guy who said there are fine people on both sides run for president.

Comfortably Smug
Speaker one, I would also point out that he said the people outside have a point. Oh, yeah, the Hamas protest.

Josh Holmes
And we have that.

Megyn Kelly
Hold on. Let's play that. Let's play that. Because he had his own both sides moment last night talking about those pro palestinian, pro Hamas protesters. Watch it.

Donald Trump
Those trust those protesters out in the street. They have a point.

A lot of innocent people are being killed on both sides.

Megyn Kelly
He literally said both sides.

He ad libbed that.

Like he said both sides about the pro Hamas people who are out there saying, get yourself beaten up by the cops for your back to school outfit.

Josh Holmes
Smuggles. What's your take?

Michael Duncan
Well, I mean, I think everyone is saying that it was kind of like a failed night one. I think it was a tremendous success. This was Nancy Pelosi's humiliation ritual. She wanted to spike the football. And like, even when she was getting interviewed by some reporters, she was like, I've got no problems with Joe. It was just his campaign. I had some issues with, like, she's putting in everyone's face that she ended this guy's career. So she absolutely, you know, got what she wanted out of that. She had him shuffled onto stage at 1130 to admit defeat. And in so many ways, he admitted defeat when he was angry and shouting about Donald Trump. The only thing that came to mind for me, Washington, wow. He's mad at a guy who so thoroughly beat him, he surrendered and dropped out. He seemed small on that stage because he couldn't cut it. He couldn't make it to face Donald Trump. He had to throw in the towel.

Comfortably Smug
It also proves that the Democrats know he's a political vulnerability. They don't want Kamala Harris associated with him inside a country mile. You know, the more she's associated as the current vice president and not this change agent with all these new positions, the worse her electoral prospects are. Yeah.

Josh Holmes
It was also just hilarious what a fictional betrayal all of this was.

Comfortably Smug
Yeah.

Josh Holmes
Right. I mean, it started at the very beginning, and then it was like a cavalcade of ridiculous has been politicians, which, if you look at the lineup, four days of that, you know, but, like, you get Maxine waters up on stage, like, are you talking? Oh, yeah. Lot of hope for the future with that situation.

John Ashbrook
If you're going to choreograph, if you're.

Josh Holmes
Going to choreograph something for hope and change, that ain't it. That. Amen.

Megyn Kelly
Well, what about, I mean, there was the one, there were two touching moments, and I'll get to them because I do, whether it's Democrat or Republican, like, the moments that make me feel something. And there was the one moment where Joe Biden came on stage after his daughter Ashley had introduced him. And they embraced just like, by the arms and spoke to each other, and he cried. And that just is like a human. You're like, oh, that's sweet. But then he gets up there and starts spewing all this nastiness. You're like, oh, okay, not sweet. But I was still reeling from her remarks because she gets up there, and of course, you guys know, we've covered it here on the MK show.

She's the one who wrote this diary in which she said she took inappropriate showers with him when she was a girl, that she said they're probably not appropriate. So she gets up there and she began her remarks as follows.

I have this memory. I was eight years old.

Comfortably Smug
We're like, oh, no, she's gonna do it.

Josh Holmes
My gosh, he's going to do it.

Megyn Kelly
Oh, my God. Every muscle tensed up. I was like, oh, no, Ashley, this is not the time.

That was one moment. I'll get to the other nice moment in a minute. But here's the other thing.

It was like, it was a parade of, like, fakes, phonies and falsehoods. Now, we talked about some of the falsehoods with Joe Biden. That just, like, litany of lies that he just keeps telling and he can get away with, but the weirdness of, like, the presenters and the lies that they were telling and that. And just like, the you've got to be effing kidding me moments that I had watching them. I mean, I sat and I watched that whole damn thing from 08:00 p.m. forward. I was exhausted. And there is this woman. I never, I confess, seen this person before. Mallory McMorrow, Michigan state senator. No.

Yes.

Josh Holmes
Was that the lizard tongue lady?

Megyn Kelly
That was lizard tongue. All right, so first of all, I don't understand why she borrowed my wardrobe from my moot court outfit in 1993, but she definitely did.

Josh Holmes
That is a murder right there.

It's a murder.

Megyn Kelly
But she was doing the weirdest stuff with her tongue.

And worse than any of that was the cluelessness of her warnings to Democrats about what Donald Trump might do if he became president again. Listen, Donald Trump would be able to weaponize the Department of Justice to go after his political opponents.

He could even turn the FBI into his own personal police force.

That is not how it works in America.

That's how it works in dictatorships.

Michael Duncan
So we're in a dictator.

Megyn Kelly
Hello, Paul.

Comfortably Smug
He might even take.

He might even take a misdemeanor and turn it into 40 felony charging in.

Megyn Kelly
New York, or send his. Send his FBI down to your home and rate it, and then parade out the evidence for a photo op that is not representative of what they found. That kind of making the FBI your own personal agent, Mallory. And I'm sorry, you can't see the whole outfit, but she was wearing dark, dark tights with inappropriate shoes under her dark dress.

Josh Holmes
You know what my favorite thing about Dem conventions, and this kind of started with, like, Mario Cuomo, maybe before that, but my earliest memory was, like, Mario Cuomo and then clearly Barack Obama in 2004. There's always this person who nobody's heard of who attempts to sort of capture something that they have absolutely no business capturing. Like, the talent of, like, Cuomo and that convention or Obama in zero four was obvious, and it vaulted them to national stardom and eventually two terms as president for Obama. But, like, this lady, you know for a fact, spent the last month thinking, like, all right, I'm really going to lean into this because this is my mo. Like, I, too, could be president if I just go out and just slam it.

Michael Duncan
I think that's a huge problem, is that especially after the Barack Obama 2004 moment, you have all these backbenchers who are like, it could be me?

Megyn Kelly
Yeah.

Michael Duncan
I could beat that guy. I go up there, I give a great speech, and the next day I'm going to be president, and it's not the case.

Megyn Kelly
Let's look at the lizard tongue. We need to show the audience what we're talking about because I think Mallory had a case of the dry mouth. That's my mallory. There. There's medication that can help you with that. You don't have to live like this.

Save yourself.

Josh Holmes
Also, just rube. Just Rubio of water or something. Save us from this thing.

Yikes.

Megyn Kelly
Okay, but on your point, guys, about wannabe stars, that leads me to AOC.

Okay?

It was when I saw people on the Internet praising her last night. Even Republicans. Some Republicans like, oh, great speech. I thought, have you never actually seen an effective female public speaker? Like, they think they mistake energy or, like, enthusiasm for effectiveness. I mean, anyone could get up there and shout at you, shake a shot at you. It doesn't make you a good public speaker. It was like an assault. It was. Right? Don't you feel assaulted by what I just did? That's how I felt listening to her. So I have a whole theory on. On her. And I'm going to walk you through my theory. And now I want your take now.

Josh Holmes
Okay.

Megyn Kelly
I hear. So I'm going to start with what I think she was going for. AOC, which. This is what she was going for. Smug just made a reference to it. And it has to do with than regular Barack Obama before he ran for president in 2004 at the DNC. This is what made him a star. This moment.

John Ashbrook
I say to them tonight, there is.

Megyn Kelly
Not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America.

There is not a black America and a white America and Latino America and Asian America. There's the United States of America.

The pundits. The pundits like to slice and dice our country into red states and blue states. Red states for Republicans, blue states for Democrats. But I've got news for them, too. We worship an awesome God in the blue states, and we don't like federal agents poking around in our libraries in the red states.

Okay. He would be canceled for saying that today.

Michael Duncan
Yeah, you get booed off the stage.

Comfortably Smug
If he said that.

Megyn Kelly
The convention, their convention today has these diversified groups meeting all day. The LGBTQ caucus and the Black Caucus and the Hispanic Caucus and the. There's not a white caucus, but anyway, okay, so that's. That's Barack Obama, who was then an Illinois state senator in 2004, made himself a star. That's what AOC was going for. That's what they all go for. They fail. There's only one Barack Obama. There will never be another Barack Obama. I'm sorry. Find your own style. You're not good at imitation. Here was AOC's attempt. And pay particular attention to the fake accent that comes in toward the end.

In Kamala Harris, we have a chance to elect a president who is for the middle class because she is from the middle class.

And I, for 01:00 a.m. tired of. Of hearing about how a two bit.

Allmodern
Union buster thinks of himself as more.

Megyn Kelly
Of a patriot than the woman who fights every single day to lick working.

Allmodern
People out from under the boots of.

Megyn Kelly
Greed trampling on our way of life.

Ever since I got elected, republicans have attacked me by saying that I should go back to Bartley.

But let me tell you, I'm happy to any day of the week, because there is nothing wrong with working for a living.

Cool. Get me a skinny margarita.

That's what she was going for. She was going for Barack Obama. But this is what she reminded me of. I mean, entirely. I give you Hilaria Baldwin.

I want you guys to realize that we have seven kids, and you being here to escort them to school and to be there when they come home is not good. This woman is not spam level. You guys know I'm not gonna say anything to you. You know that. So please leave my family in peace and let this play out. Okay?

Allmodern
So let my kids come home and.

Megyn Kelly
You stay away from them. Because they asked me. Mommy, what? Like, what are these people doing? Wait, she's not spanish speaking, so please go home.

Josh Holmes
Cause I'm not gonna say anything, and.

Megyn Kelly
Alec is not going to say anything.

Michael Duncan
She's like bor for bor, how you say?

Megyn Kelly
Cucumber? And there was this, my final sound bite and this little riff. So she was a cross between Eliaria, who went to a fancy boarding school in either Boston or Rhode island, and isn't Spanish at all.

And also this guy, you may remember him from world war two as the leader of Italy.

Josh Holmes
Oh, my God.

Megyn Kelly
Megan, what do you think?

Josh Holmes
Breaking out the 50 calories.

Michael Duncan
This is hot fire today.

John Ashbrook
Wow.

Megyn Kelly
Agree or disagree?

Josh Holmes
Well, I'm conflicted.

AOC. I agree. I agree with what you were saying, but I'm conflicted about sort of who she is and how I don't think there's anybody who better captures the ethos of today's democratic party than AOC. I mean, we may think it's absolutely ridiculous, but that is entirely consistent with everything that you see from the very top to the very bottom, from the center left to the progressive left, I mean, everything is captured by who AOC is. And I think this convention is actually a part of that. Right. There's no real attempt to explain to the center of the electorate why it is that everything is sucked so bad under Joe Biden, but it's basically inventing a new reality, throwing some yelling at you, telling you you're gonna fight for stuff, and then just kind of expecting people to get in line behind somebody who's never gotten a single primary vote.

John Ashbrook
There's no incentive for them to. Correct. Because if you followed Twitter last night, the media was just globbing all over her. They were saying how great she was and this is the best speech ever. So why would they ever course correct? Because the feedback loop they get is just nothing but positive.

Comfortably Smug
Well, and she, she was sort of alluding to this dignity of war, which like, I think is central to the american ethos, isn't really a Democrat thing or a republican thing. But instead of doing that thing and that thing alone, which everybody agrees with, she's like working under the boot of greed. And it's like, well, when did this become a class struggle? This is the struggle session now because.

Michael Duncan
You work hard and that's the thing. So I picked up on that. And I also agree with what Holmes said of how emblematic that AOC is of the party, because she's a fraud, right?

Josh Holmes
Yeah.

Michael Duncan
This is someone who grew up in one of the most expensive parts of New York, right?

Saying that, oh, we're going to fight back against the boot of greed because she's just paying lip service to that stupid socialist foot soldiers that they need out there to be a threat, that, hey, listen, if you don't vote our way, there's a reason that businesses get boarded up on election day. You know, she's completely been absorbed by the party establishment in her short time of getting elected, winning that primary. She's now been brought into, okay, you can give a convention speech and she's mad that she gets chased down by these Gaza protesters. When she's trying to watch a movie at the theater. She's like, I'm watching a movie at the theater. Can't you save your genocide talk for some other time?

Megyn Kelly
She's no longer some kind of grassroots fighter. Westchester. Exactly. AOC is Sandy from Westchester. Now. She's suddenly, like Latino speaking from the.

Michael Duncan
Bronx, like yourself, the entire party is a fraud. And like, when they talk about how they're going to help working people. They're the ones who have put the boots on the working class's neck. With the way inflation has gone up over the four years, it's a huge fraud.

Comfortably Smug
Is that like a Rosie Perez sort of thing you're doing there?

Josh Holmes
White men can't jump.

Comfortably Smug
White men can't jump.

Megyn Kelly
I mean, sort of slang. That is what I hear her doing. I am imitating.

Comfortably Smug
That is really good.

Megyn Kelly
Hating a Spanish.

John Ashbrook
Oh, yeah, that's really good.

Megyn Kelly
That's my spanish invitation of her Spanish. And by the way, speaking of which, now they've been doing, like, the parade of celebrities there. And is it tonight that Anna Navarro is their celebrity?

John Ashbrook
Oh, my God.

Michael Duncan
They're the celebrity now somehow they are.

Megyn Kelly
Sorry, but that's like the kind of celebrity you'd find at a republican national convention where they can't find.

Josh Holmes
I don't know. We had Megyn Kelly walking around, national committee. That's a pretty big celebrity.

Megyn Kelly
So, wait, you raise a very good point about the class warfare. All right, so. And they're all fakers, right? So Sandy from Westchester is Nazam Latino from the Bronx. And also her being, like, Kamala Harris, she understands middle class because she is from the middle class. So Kamala Harris's dad was a professor at Stanford.

Her mom had a PhD from Berkeley. So she may have grown up in a duplex because the mom wasn't rich and they got a divorce young, but that doesn't make her some sort of middle class champion. She's been making hundreds of thousands of dollars on the taxpayer dime ever since she got out of school. So I hate the rewrite. Like, she's actually not some poor pull herself up by the bootstraps. It's like, you know how many actual working class people would love to have had parents, double PhDs, a respected, you know, PhD scientist and professor at Stanford, and she still gets to run around and say, like, I'm just like you. Okay, so they're. They're fake. And then you get this attack on somebody who actually is not middle class working class. I mean, he was poor. His family was poor. His mama did a little better, but his mom was a drug addict. JD Vance, I'm speaking of, who really couldn't hold down a job. He had no father whatsoever in the picture. And this. And yet he pulled himself up. He pulled himself up by going to the military, doing a service honorably, and then coming back and crushing it at Ohio State. And then he parlayed that in a Yale law school. And here are the Democrats. I'll give you Ohio. Representative Beatty speaking about the JD Vance story, left.

Allmodern
Now, JD Vance likes to talk about how he's from Ohio, but as soon, as soon as he could, he ran away to Yale in Silicon Valley, cozying up with billionaires while trashing our communities.

John Ashbrook
Unbelievable lives in Cincinnati to go to Yale.

Comfortably Smug
It is very, very funny for Joyce Beatty, of all people, to be calling JD Vance some sort of elitist when she was appointed to her husband, state rep seat in Ohio. She's been a professional politician for 40 years. Yeah, that's exactly right. When JD Vance was deploying to Iraq and then comes back, goes to Ohio State and parlays that into Yale, she had her entire career handed to her by her husband. So it's absolutely incredible for her, of all people, to call him the elitist.

Michael Duncan
And that's the thing, is the absolute hypocrisy and just moral bankruptcy of these people that's being put on display when you have Kamala Harris being like, you know, she's a. She brought herself up as a champion of the middle class for nothing. Every job she's ever had, she was appointed to, and every single one of those jobs was a government job being paid for by taxpayers. I don't think people realize this. When you look at who's on the ticket. You've got Tim Balls, who's been on a government job his entire lifetime. Kamala Harris, who has never worked in the private sector either. And then you've got JD Vance and Donald Trump, like, how are you going to say that? You know what? I'm going to help you hardworking folks out there when you've never had to have a real job. You know, you're not going to lose a government job.

Comfortably Smug
Well, and I never heard this complaint about, I don't know, Barack Obama leaving Chicago, community organizing.

Michael Duncan
He left him behind.

Comfortably Smug
Was he leaving Chicago behind?

Michael Duncan
And this closing up with billionaires is okay.

Megyn Kelly
Like, I met JD Vance in 17 when he was, I don't know, I guess, 34. And he had gone to law school and he might have even been younger, whatever that was. Well, let's do the math. Now it's 24. So seven. So seven years ago. So he was 30, 33.

He had gone to Yale law. He had done the Ohio state into Yale Law School. And then he went out to Silicon Valley for, I think, five years, made some money, decided it wasn't for him. He told me personally, he couldn't handle San Francisco. People were defecating on the street. He was like, I'm out of here. And so he left all that money. He left a very well paying job with Peter Thiel and came back home to Ohio and was starting a foundation for his fellow Ohioans, trying to help them improve their lives. That's what he was doing. I found him at 17. It would take a few more years before he would even run for office. So, to the contrary, he left a high paying job to come home to Ohio to figure out what he could do for them. And ultimately he ran for office there to try to do that for them. But this is not a one off from this. Representative Beatty, Tim Waltz, that, what a jerk. Has said the same thing. Listen to him.

John Ashbrook
They're running for he man women haters club or something. That angst that JD Vance talks about in hillbilly elegy. None of my hillbilly cousins went to Yale and none of them went on to be venture capitalists or whatever.

Megyn Kelly
It's nothing who people really are.

Well, maybe they were dumb.

I don't know anything about his hillbilly relatives. How are we supposed to make a judgment based on that?

John Ashbrook
How are we supposed to know he actually has hillbilly relatives? I mean, this guy has told lies about absolutely everything under the sun. Newest this morning in the New York Times. Apparently he said that he and his wife had IVF and that wasn't true. Did you see this? Yeah. That was in addition to him saying that he was Newt Rockney and led the team to the national championship and he was actually just a defensive coordinator and then he was in volunteer.

Just tell the truth. You know, just say, I co, I was one of the coaches on the team. My wife and I did that. You know, like, why do they have to exaggerate on absolutely everything?

Megyn Kelly
The guy is, they made him into Craig T. Nelson in that tv series coach T and Friday night lights. He's like an assistant volunteer expendable coach on the team thing. It really is amazing. Tomorrow we're having on Liz Collin of Alpha News, who's been doing great reporting on Tim walls for a long time. But, but yes, that's one of the stories we're going to get into because he's, we have tape of him on camera saying we conceived our children through IVF, which JD Vance wants to ban. JD vance doesn't want to ban IVF. That's a lie. But his wife Gwen came out and admitted that they conceived their children through intrauterine insemination, which is not IVF. It's basically where they insert the man's semen directly into you with like a turkey baster. It's not where a child is conceived. Sorry. In a petri dish outside of either parent. And now that's the latter. And I use the latter so I can speak to this. It's more controversial because then what do you do with the excess embryos? Right. Like, that's. That's why people find IVF controversial. There's no such problem with intrauterine insemination.

It's just a different means of delivering the sperm versus the one we all normally use.

Josh Holmes
Anyway, this is not on my bingo card.

Michael Duncan
Make it.

Comfortably Smug
Megan's saying turkey baster.

Josh Holmes
I'm just gonna get under the desk and let you all figure this out for a while.

Megyn Kelly
It got too graphic. I'm sorry. I didn't read for it to. Anyway, he lied. It's another. It's just another lie. He didn't use IVF. It's the guy. Every day there's a new lie from him.

Josh Holmes
Yeah.

Michael Duncan
And I understand he was introduced with, again, the wrong title yesterday.

Megyn Kelly
Oh, yeah.

Michael Duncan
When he was speaking to come.

Megyn Kelly
Yes. I mean, oh, we have it. We have that. Listen to this. Smug. Here he is. They, oh, we don't have it. We don't have it. But we'll have it. But every. They know he shouldn't be called Command Sergeant major. He never actually earned it. It was a temporary title that he didn't train for. Go ahead, smuggesthe.

Michael Duncan
And that's why I feel fact checks aren't effective is because we already know that they have complete control over the media and that the media they have say, oh, you know, the truth is important. Democracy dies in darkness. And they will like, it was hilarious that C SPAN even put it across the top. We are not, we are not life checking these statements because it's a Democrat convention. Don't you know this? You people like, at the same time, the Democrats are allowed to run roughshod, say whatever lies they want, which is why I think the focal point needs to not be on trying to fight facts with facts and just focus on fighting fire with fire. The american people are in a position where they are fed up with the way things are going, and if we're not careful, the Democrats are going to try to steal that. This is a change election from under us because the, the vast majority of the public wants a new direction of. From the horrible way things have been going for these past few years. And Kamala Harris is trying to run away from her part in making that happen. And instead of worrying about, like, well, you know what? This is a lie. Just hammer that message down. But, like, you've seen what these people are capable of. They're liars and they're horrible people. This is what we can do different, and this is what we have done differently.

Josh Holmes
I think that's really well said. Smug. One of the things I find so fascinating about democratic national conventions and things like that is you get a window into the information silo that makes up the liberal part of this country. And it's a wild place. I mean, it is almost everything that came out of anyone's mouth for, God, what felt like 24 hours last night was just made up. Right? I mean, it's just not at all what's happening in this country. And to your point that you just made. I mean, they want to act as though what's happening here at this convention is somehow divorced from the reality of a Biden administration in which she was the number two and everything's going shitty.

And they just want to pretend like, I mean, there was, there were comments about, like, wow, Trump's lying to you about the border. The border. They basically did the border secure thing again. You know, and they're talking about the economy. They're talking about all these things. Like, none of it is true. You expect a little hyperbole in a political convention, but there also has to be just a touch of undergirding fact.

Comfortably Smug
If you didn't know any better, you would think Donald Trump's the current president. Yeah, that's the sort of election they're trying to run right now. And, I mean, to smug's point, we can't lose the fact that this election needs to be a referendum on the last four years of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. We cannot have this be a choice election where she's allowed to reinvent herself and pretend like she didn't have all those crazy positions.

Megyn Kelly
In 2019, you've got Kamala Harris, who's done nothing but fail upward. You know, she, she has been elected to office, but only in blue, blue areas, California. First DA, then attorney general, then as California senator, and then she got elevated to the vice presidency because he promised James Clyburn he'd find a black woman. And so she got elevated there. And she is not the only one who we saw on the stage last night who was an obvious dei hire. That leads me to Kathy Hochul, who is another absolute moron. She is, sadly, the governor of the state that I spent 50 years of my life in. It's really, she got there because Andrew Cuomo imploded and she was lieutenant governor. And amazingly, they reelected her. I mean, they re elected her. And I think, you know, watching her last night, it's because of just her soaring rhetoric, her ability to turn a phrase and just provide huge doses of inspo without much effort. Like this one. Watch.

New York's motto is Excelsior ever upward.

Josh Holmes
Oh, my God.

Megyn Kelly
And Trump takes us ever downward.

Michael Duncan
That's how, you know, you completely disrespect your voter base and just hold them in absolute contempt. Is that like, Trump bad?

Everyone claps.

Yes, I can understand that.

Josh Holmes
Charisma of roadkill. You know.

Megyn Kelly
She'S not even the word. Like she was lieutenant governor. Look at the lieutenant governor in Minnesota. She's given hocal a run for her money. This one's named Peggy Flanagan.

My name in the Ojibwe language is easy. Waywardam ukwe, or in English, speaks with a clear and loud voice. Woman.

I'm a member of the white Earth nation, and my family is the Wolf clan.

And the role of our clan is to ensure that we never leave anyone behind.

That's why I am supporting Kamala Harris and Tim Walls to be the next president and vice president of the United States. I work side by side with governor walls. I've seen how hard he's worked for Minnesota to be the best place for kids to grow up.

He does it all with a big heart, a buffalo plaid jacket, and a bottomless bag of snacks, nutter butters, cheese curds, and diet dew.

Josh Holmes
Your tribe doesn't leave anybody behind unless you're an 82 year old incumbent president.

Case very much behind.

Michael Duncan
Appreciate that breakdown of, you know, her native american family's history from Peggy Flanagan.

Comfortably Smug
Yeah, I got a feel for those tribes. You know, she probably came in, they're like, liberal lady, you're so loud. We will just give you a name. We will give you a name if you go away.

Please go away.

Megyn Kelly
You can have a fancy name.

Josh Holmes
Take your chardonnay and move off the reservation.

John Ashbrook
Peggy, just look at the lineup of Democrat speakers. It's all their elite bureaucrats. The contrast between what Democrats are putting forward in prime time and what Republicans put forward, which was gold star mothers and small business owners and family members of Hamas hostages. There were regular, real people in prime time for Republicans. I think it shows you a huge contrast in the values of each party in this election.

Michael Duncan
Also, I think you touched on something really important that I've been thinking about ever since Megan, you mentioned that, like, who. Who is president right now? And I think the Democrats have this country exactly where they've always wanted it is that it doesn't matter who's in leadership or who's, you know, quote, calling the shots. They've created these layers and layers of bureaucracy to just keep their machine rolling. They can even have a change in presidency. Like Trump came in as president. There were still layers and layers of this bureaucracy that can keep the work going, that can keep the money flowing to the various pet projects, that they can spend $50 billion to build seven charge stations, that they can spend $40 billion and not get a single wireless Internet station in the ground. This is what they're after, is the machine to dole out to keep this.

John Ashbrook
Game going, and they want to protect it. The lizard lady with the bad clothes, that's one of the things she said. I don't know if you guys caught this, but she was like, Donald Trump might fire federal employees.

Megyn Kelly
Yeah.

She was horrified.

How soon can we get him in there?

Comfortably Smug
Yeah.

Megyn Kelly
I will tell you. Okay, this is my one other nice moment of the night. I'm gonna say something nice. You know who actually, I wound up liking? I like our politics are different. She was. She hates Trump. But I liked this woman, Jasmine Crockett. I actually.

I've only seen her being kind of a shit stirrer on Capitol Hill. And that's fine. That's what they kind of do. But she told a nice story about Kamala. I was like, this is what they should be doing. Get up there, try to rehabilitate this woman who we know is a bully from. We know this from the Washington Post and other mainstream media outlets that have been reporting on it. When she was not yet the nominee, she was still just the lowly vice president. So they felt fine taking shots at her.

But we need stories like that, right? If her party needs that if they want her to get elected. So Jasmine Crockett got up there, and at first, I was like, how did this nobody get a speaking role at the convention? And then I was like, you know what? She's winning me over, because she told a nice story. She talked about how she was a public defender, and so she knows a good prosecutor when she sees her. That was good. You know, she laid the foundation 20 years. She'd been doing that before she ran for Congress. And then she told this story when.

Allmodern
I visited the vice president's residence for the first time.

As I approached Vice President Harris for our official photo, she turned to me and asked, what's wrong?

Mind you, we'd never met, but she saw right through me.

She saw the distress.

I immediately began crying.

And the most powerful woman in the world. Wipe my tears and listen.

Megyn Kelly
That was sweet. I liked that.

Comfortably Smug
Nice story.

Megyn Kelly
Good story, right? It was good. And I was just.

Josh Holmes
Yeah, I'm just so cynical, though. I'm just so cynical about this stuff.

Megyn Kelly
Okay. I was just warming up to her, and then she said this.

Allmodern
The question before us is, will a vindictive, vile villain violate voters vision.

Megyn Kelly
For.

Allmodern
Better America or not?

I hear alliterations are back in style.

Josh Holmes
Okay, I'll give her this.

Megyn Kelly
I mean, she's got.

Josh Holmes
She's got personality, right? Which is more than you see out of most democrats.

Comfortably Smug
I don't really care for the wedding singer attire.

Josh Holmes
Yeah, it's not my. Yeah, that wouldn't.

It's a lot. It's a lot.

But, you know, I mean, look, I'm so cynical about this. If you're looking from Kamala Harris's point of view, what do they have, like, a five seat majority in the House? That lady takes a walk.

They're gonna be real down. Like, Republicans are gonna be able to pass things. I mean, she was first elected in 22 with a very slim republican majority. She's losing a democratic vote. They were in the midst of a speaker fight, if you remember, where they still held out hopes that Hakeem Jeffries would actually be speaker because Republicans were self immolating at that point. Like, the idea that she's just sort of, like, personally drawn towards a stranger, I think is belied by the rest of her career.

Megyn Kelly
So you are suggesting, Josh Holmes, that Kamala Harris wiping of the tears was instant. It was like, shore up, get in there and vote our way.

Josh Holmes
That's exactly what I'm suggesting.

I haven't known an authentic emotion from an elected Democrat in some 20 years of doing this. Right. I mean, it's just.

It's all so bad. And the doctor seuss routine isn't bad. She's got a good personality. She's very entertaining.

John Ashbrook
That's the thing.

Josh Holmes
Like, I kind of don't mind. I expect them to just lie with impunity, and that's what we got. But at least if you're going to lie to me, make it entertaining. She made it entertaining.

Megyn Kelly
So what you're saying.

I'm interested in your guys take on that. What you're saying is that Kamala Harris, in that moment, was another version of the weirdly smiling Nancy Pelosi. We love Joe.

Another version?

Josh Holmes
Yeah, I think so. I mean, look, Nancy Pelosi is a perfect embodiment. She's bent at the top. So she's had more scrutiny. And so you can see into how she operates rates more clearly. But it's not unique and distinct to Nancy Pelosi. It's unique and distinct to the democratic party, to the point where if you had any questions about that, look what they did to the incumbent president of the United States eight weeks ago. Right? They don't give a shit about anything other than holding on to power.

Michael Duncan
Bingo.

Josh Holmes
Whatever vestige of power that they have trying to drag this country as far left as they could possibly do it. They've caught the bus on a number of occasions, and the only thing they can do is reinvent a further left place to take us.

John Ashbrook
Yeah, you're exactly right. When Chuck Schumer went for that private meeting with Joe Biden, it wasn't about how do we get your face on Mount Rushmore before this election? You know what I mean? You make a great point. Yeah, that's right.

Josh Holmes
Thank you, Meg.

Megyn Kelly
One of the few who asked me that. Right, that was the beginning of the end. Yeah. I mean, I just couldn't believe, like, Nancy Pelosi, she was up there. Do we have that sound bite of her on CNN talking about how, you know, it wasn't about him, it was about his party. But she admits, like she's now admitting she did it. Here she is. And I know that there, it was very difficult for him. That's been made very clear by some of his top aides, like Anita Dunn and Ron Klain. And there does seem to be, even though Anita Dunn said earlier today, quote, nobody wants to have a fight with Nancy Pelosi at this time, unquote, it does seem like there's some residual bad blood or resentment. And I'm wondering if you've spoken to him and what your response is to that.

Michael Duncan
Sometimes you just have to take a.

Megyn Kelly
Punch for the children and that's what you're doing right now. You're just going to take the punch for the children. I've talked to him is my only question.

Michael Duncan
That's what I have to do.

Megyn Kelly
Right.

Josh Holmes
He made the decision for the country.

Michael Duncan
My concern was not about the president, was about his campaign.

Megyn Kelly
Nobody is questioning the fact that the Democratic Party seems much better positioned right now than it did four weeks and two days ago. There's no question about that. Former speaker Pelosi. So why aren't we even talking about it?

The network made a mask.

Michael Duncan
That's exactly what Holmes said. Because it's only in service of the mission of holding on to power. She's like, so why even talk about it. Why are we talking about anything but questioning my methods? That's the thing. And she's not admitting she did it. It's like a threat. Like people who think she's still not calling the shots. You think Hakeem Jeffries is calling the shots?

Comfortably Smug
Yeah.

Michael Duncan
She's like, I just, I just killed a president in front of everybody.

Comfortably Smug
Yeah. Why, why are we discussing if it was fair or honest or just, you know, to the voters? They don't matter. No, all that matters is that Kamala's poll numbers went up.

Josh Holmes
Yeah.

Megyn Kelly
It was truly like a you need me on that wall kind of moment.

Josh Holmes
Yes, yes, Colonel Jessup, I do kind of respect it.

Comfortably Smug
And I respect it that she's brazen enough to say she did it for the children out of left field.

Michael Duncan
But also, that's a wild thing to say. Sometimes you gotta take a punch for the children. This sounds like a horrible situation.

Josh Holmes
Who's trying to punch children democrat all.

John Ashbrook
The way through the 9th month?

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Michael Duncan
Also, whenever they made that, like, you know, transition from either when it was Joe spiking speaking, and even when Joe was speaking over to Kamala, didn't she seem, like, small, like, you know, even among, like, the Nancy Pelosi's and even the maxine waters.

It just comes off as Kamala's just like, not even close in terms of like the same level as these folks who've had experience won elections. You know, it's like when they go back to her, it just kept, at least to me, it was a shock of like, this is, this is really the presidential nominee.

Josh Holmes
Yeah.

Comfortably Smug
They were like walking this line between passing the torch, although that's bullshit in and of itself. It had to be ripped from his hands. He didn't want to pass the torch. I mean, he did, like two months of insisting that he could still do the job and that the polling said that he would win. But it got to the point that it was sort of patronizing of Kamala. You know, like, the best decision I made in my whole political career was this thing I telegraphed on day one that I'd nominate a black woman as vice president. It just happened to be this woman. That was my best decision my entire political career. I mean, come on.

Josh Holmes
I mean, is that fair? A lot of really bad decisions to.

Megyn Kelly
Your point earlier about like that, where are the real people, you know, with their real stories? What I saw that last night was the three women who have had abortions, who got up there to talk about abortion. And I have nothing but empathy for the third woman who talked about how she was raped by her stepfather. Her name is Hadley Duvall.

But where she took that horrific experience in her, in the conclusion, like, what her takeaway was on it politically was just dead wrong. I mean, it was really wrong. Here's what she said.

I can't imagine not having a choice.

Josh Holmes
But today, that's the reality for many women and girls across the country because.

Megyn Kelly
Of Donald Trump's abortion bans.

He calls it a beautiful thing.

What is so beautiful about a child having to carry her parents child?

You don't have to look very far to hear Donald Trump's actual position on abortion, and in particular rape and incest exceptions. Listen.

Donald Trump
Yeah, like Ronald Reagan, I believe in the exceptions. I am a person that believes. I, and frankly, I think it's important to believe in the exceptions. Some people, you have to follow your heart. Some people don't believe in that. But I believe in the exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother. I think it's very important. Some people don't follow your heart, but you have to get elected also.

Megyn Kelly
Now, guys, that was not ancient history. That was at the June debate with Joe Biden. Where are the 10,000 fact checks of the misinformation that was given out from the DNC floor last night on a important, an important piece of this contest. People have been debating abortion at every debate, at every appearance. Where does Trump stand? He's made perfectly clear he's taken shit from the right for saying what he said there.

And yet, I'll wait for Politifact and the others to fact check. Yes, a sympathetic person who got up there and said very false things about Trump's position.

Josh Holmes
Yeah, I mean, look, it's the worst kind of lie because it's wrapped up in a horrific, highly emotional story that you can immediately sort of sympathize with and identify with of a horrible choice that this young woman had to make. But, but even in the setup to ultimately the big lie that she had there, she's calling it Donald Trump's abortion ban. Like, look, I understand that a convention is not the place for nuance or that kind of thing, but, I mean, we're talking about a Supreme Court decision that was decided and threw these things back to a bunch of states of whom you elect your representatives, and then they make the policy. The idea that Donald Trump is somehow presiding over abortion bans is entirely ridiculous, even before you get to the point where his stated position since the time he came down the golden escalator was exceptions for rape, incest, or life of, and health of the mother speaker.

Michael Duncan
One.

John Ashbrook
But there are no fact checks because the media is on their side. I mean, we say it over and over and over again, but it's true. Like, we talked about this Tim walls IVF thing. In the New York Times story about the Tim walls IVF lie. They write, Tim. People assumed that Tim Walls had a baby through IVF.

They didn't write like, why they assumed it. Tim Walls told people he had a baby through IVF. They had a baby through IVF.

They don't fact check them. Like in the coach thing, Politico wrote a profile with artwork with, like, x's and o's and plays, making him look like he was Eddie Robinson.

Comfortably Smug
The coach thing really riles up Ashbrook.

John Ashbrook
He really like the little lies he tells over and over again that are, like, boosted by the media rather than, like, checked and beat down.

Michael Duncan
And I think there's a reason for that.

Megyn Kelly
More stolen valor.

Michael Duncan
It's like Duncan said of, they're trying to run against Donald Trump and not the horrors of living under the Biden Harris administration. So when they say that it's a Trump ban, they want you to think that, wow, these past four years have sucked. I guess it must have been because of Trump somehow. And they have to lie about it because are they going to be able to have a conventional, let's celebrate the price of groceries going up 50%? You're not getting rounds of applause with that.

Kamala herself is trying to act like she wasn't a part of that, saying that, like, groceries have gone up by 50%. Well, what are you going to do about it when you were already there causing it?

Josh Holmes
Need another green new deal she saved.

Megyn Kelly
She's going to use the FTC to write, to write these very wrong grocery prices. You control them right now. Right now, you're in the office. That's actually something. If that's your solution, why don't you just go get that done? But she doesn't. And she's banking on people not knowing any of that.

One of the most outrageous moments last night, truly one of the most. I mean, because they're joyful. They're joyful. They're the party above of uplift and on the eve of Bill Clinton coming to the stage because he comes not tonight, but tomorrow. So I guess two eves away, they have the nerve to run like an ad about law and order. I referenced it in the intro and they borrow a little bit from the Dick Wolf show, and here is a bit of what they played.

John Ashbrook
In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, the police who investigate crime and the district attorneys who prosecute the offender. This is the story of Donald Trump.

His entire life, Trump has believed he's above the law, that no one would ever dare hold him accountable. He lies, he rips off workers. He sexually abuses women.

He cheats in business.

He cheated on his wife with a porn star and paid her off so the american people wouldn't find out during an election.

But in the criminal justice system, ordinary Americans have had the courage to find him accountable time and time again.

Megyn Kelly
Guilty.

John Ashbrook
Guilty. Guilty.

Megyn Kelly
Donald Trump. Guilty on all 34 felony counts.

John Ashbrook
For the first time in history, we have a convicted felon running for president.

And to take on this case, we need a president who has spent her life prosecuting, prosecuting perpetrators like Donald Trump.

Josh Holmes
Okay, I'm in.

Megyn Kelly
I don't know where to begin, but let's just start with cheated on his wife, her husband, Kamala Harris's own husband, the man who she wants us to make first gentleman cheated on his first wife with the nanny, which, honestly, is worse than with a porn star with the nanny, whom he impregnated.

He did not deny this report when it was brought to him. Nobody knows what happened to the baby. Was it, was the baby aborted? Is there a love child that Doug Emhoff has with this woman? We don't know because the media won't follow up on this. I didn't see that in her video last night. Not to mention the Bill Clinton problems. Donald Trump is a predator. Bill Clinton's predatory behavior puts every politicians to shame.

He's the OG sexual predator. And he'll be taking the stage on Wednesday night with her blessing. She'll be sitting in the audience applauding the man who was accused of raping Juanita Broderick, of sexually assaulting Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones. And I could keep going, but you see, we're supposed to memory hole all of that because he's Bill Clinton.

Michael Duncan
Yeah.

Josh Holmes
Yeah. It's, it's sadistic. Also, you know, the whole premise of her being tough on crime is just a laughable proposition. I saw an ad, I think it was MAGA, Inc. Or something, that had a relative of somebody who was killed by a recidivist that she let out of prison in California. We all remember, obviously, the bail fund in Minneapolis that led a whole bunch of criminals out of jail after trashing the city of Minneapolis. And the rate of recidivism and violent crime amongst a few of them was astronomical, unthinkable.

With somebody who tries to fashion themselves as tough on crime, they just don't have. And the reason that they switched to the Trump thing, and we said this from the very beginning of why they wanted Donald Trump is because their whole game plan, before they knew that they had to trash Joe Biden was if they could convict him in a court of law and just put a ceiling on his vote at like 48% in the states that matter, with the rhetoric that this is a convicted felon over and over and over again, they would never actually have to talk about what it is that they've done to this country. And now that they've gone through this six week period of their own struggles, but threw Joe Biden overboard, they're back to the game plan. And that, that little video, I think, is the best representation of the original strategy the Democrats were taking into 2024 that was on hiatus over the summer. But they're now back in action, and they think they've got a winner with it.

Megyn Kelly
Wait.

Comfortably Smug
It does absolutely nothing to convince a single persuadable voter in this country. Like, that's catnip for the base and the people who are sitting there at that democratic convention. But if you listen to what actual persuadable voters are, these double haters, you know, want to hear, they want to hear from Kamala what she actually plans to do. They want to hear policy positions and a vision for the future of the country. This whole idea of her being a prosecutor who's going to take it to Donald Trump does not motivate a single one of those people to vote for.

Josh Holmes
Well, it's belied by the facts that she was, is never tough on.

Comfortably Smug
And it's also, it also, yeah, I mean, people have just, they have such cynicism and such a low regard for the media and politicians at this point. You know, back to, from Russiagate to Covid, we got a mass toddlers. But if you're going to burn down cities with BLM, you don't have to wear a mask. You know, stuff like that. Like, people are just so cynical to the point where like, they don't care. They do not care that Donald Trump was convicted of these felonies in New York. They see right through that thing. So you're going to have to give them more than this contrived notion. You know, the tough on crime prosecutor.

Josh Holmes
Yeah.

Megyn Kelly
It makes you wonder, can I tell you, like, some of the stuff they're saying about him, he could actually sue for, it's impossible to sue as a public figure for defamation. But some of the stuff, including the, the lie about there, there are both, there are fine people on both sides. I mean, honestly, that is so untrue. It's been proven untrue. Just roll the tape. What he avoid, he actually said you actually could recover in a court of law potentially for something like that. And that wasn't it. I mean, of course, the whole night was spent Trump bashing somebody did a rundown where it was like the number of, I might have screen grabbed it. This is how I prepare for the show. I see interesting things and I screen grab them and come back to them. But in any event, it was something like the number of the references of illegal immigration and the number of references of health care and so on. And they were just down to like the tiny numbers. Here it is. Border, eight times crime, six times. Inflation, three times.

Trump, 147 times.

Josh Holmes
Yeah, that's the game plan. That's the game plan. They just don't, they always thought that timber prosecute this, this case against Donald Trump by never talking about themselves. And they are back on track on that for what they think. And the media is certainly not going to hold them accountable. But I think Duncan's probably right in that when we get into the thrux of this in a post labor day environment, you continue to have bad economic news.

Nothing is particularly optimistic and good about the tenure of this administration. People are gonna want some answers at some level. You know, it's not just gonna be an emotional, well, this person's different than the last person type choice, but it does get them very, very close. And I think Republicans would be making a grave mistake if they think that there isn't some persuasion power here in at least reconsolidating a democratic base. Because I think one of the things I was gonna say is it's becoming clear that Democrats view this as a base turnout election.

They do not think that they have the power of persuasion on their side, and they're right about that. So the question is whether or not, and that's why they ultimately kicked Joe Biden off this ticket, because he had a Hamas problem and she doesn't, and an elderly problem and she doesn't. It had nothing to do with the policies that are different, because there is no difference. Right. It's just the presentation. And if you can reconsolidate that democratic base to try to turn out in numbers of people who just hate Donald Trump, that's the only qualification for this group.

Megyn Kelly
So if you just pour fuel. Trump. Yeah. They poured fuel onto that fire multiple times last night. I played you that one ad. And dark Brandon returned. And here's Rafael Warnock, one of their rising stars.

Senator from the state of Georgia, US Senator weighing watch America. Make no mistake, Donald Trump is a plague on the american conscience.

He is a press. He is a clear and present threat.

Allmodern
Okay?

Megyn Kelly
It was two days ago, ago, three days at most, that I watched a CNN panel meltdown because one of the panelists, Nancy Mace, mispronounced Kamala. Watch when you disrespect Kamala Harris by saying you will call her whatever you want. I know you don't intend it to be that way. That's the history and legacy of white disregard for the humanity of black people. So now you're calling me racist? I didn't say. Come on. That is complete. You don't have to intend racism, too. No, no.

Kamala Harris, if I'm allowed.

They don't like the disrespect. Guys, it's not okay to disrespect.

Comfortably Smug
The funniest thing is they all learned how to pronounce her name a month ago, you know, and first of all, her name is Sanskrit. Kamala is a sanskrit name, you know, and they're trying to make it. This attack on a black woman. Sorry, it's just sort of hard to pronounce. Like, nobody's doing it on purpose. We're all trying our best.

Megyn Kelly
Even if she was doing it on purpose, who cares? You're calling him a sexual predator. You've got Raphael Warnock saying he's a clear and present threat, that he's a plague. You've got Joe Biden, who just spoke out a couple days ago, calling him Donald dump f you and your phony indignation over calling her Kamala instead of Kamala. This is so fake.

Josh Holmes
Who the guess that Mace would have had a tough shake on that panel question. The booking, that did not seem like it was going to go well from the jump.

Michael Duncan
And again, it was what they gave 48 hours after one of their folks tried to kill Donald Trump to being back to like, he is a clear and present threat to America.

John Ashbrook
Great points.

Megyn Kelly
Hitler.

Josh Holmes
Yeah, Hitler.

Megyn Kelly
Yeah, right. We're back to Hitler. By the way, how about the fact that that thing's been completely erased out of the memory? It's out of the news, like, didn't happen. The assassination attempt on Trump, it's truly as if it was a nothing in the news cycle. When the media, it's like a line from mommy dearest. If she doesn't like you, she can make you disappear. That's what happened.

Josh Holmes
It is sad state of affairs we have ourselves in here.

Megyn Kelly
Well, there's a reason for that, right? I mean, it's like, he looked heroic, he looks sympathetic, that it would require them to tone down their rhetoric. And they're not okay with any one of those messages, any one of those things. Meantime, you got Trump, who he says this and the media freaks out like, oh, my God, he won't change. He's terrible. And I'm listening to him, having heard all this other stuff, thinking, yes, I totally understand. Listen to Saad 31. This is Trump administration.

Donald Trump
I want to do is have strong borders and good education. We want to have choice for education. So important, so many different things. You would think it would be the other way. We rebuilt the military. We did so many great things. People don't know who she is.

As far as the personal attacks, I'm very angry at her. That she'd weaponize the justice system against me and other people. Very angry at her. I think I'm entitled to personal attacks.

Megyn Kelly
Where's he wrong?

Josh Holmes
He's not wrong.

Michael Duncan
And, you know, that's the thing is when you'd mentioned that it's actionable legally, the things that have been said about him that, you know, these lies that defame him, like, both people find people on both sides kind of thing. The one problem is good luck finding a fair court for Donald Trump. I mean, that is the issue. The reason that in New York City, you can find these trumped up charges, turn them into felonies where the feds wouldn't want to go after them because there was no merit to it. But they can make a person guilty of 40 felonies because politically they don't like him. Him. Good luck finding a court that's going to let you do what is legal.

Megyn Kelly
Yeah, he might be getting sentenced to jail, you guys, in a matter of weeks. September 18 is the sentencing day in front of Judge Marshawn. Andy McCarthy is convinced he's going to get sentenced to jail with a suspended sentence, meaning he won't have to go right off to jail. He'll be given the chance to appeal. But the law, fair is not done. And this is like the crowning moment, right? Like, this is what they, this is what they came for. Like, get a convicted felon who has been sentenced to jail. How are you going to elect him to the presidency? But if you can say Kamala instead of Kamala or whatever it is, you're disgusting.

Comfortably Smug
You know, maybe it's a silver lining. Donald Trump's poll numbers were at their best when he was on trial in New York.

Josh Holmes
I think if they take the brazen step of trying to sentence him to prison of any kind, they're going to be sorely, sorely mistaken on what the ramifications are of that. I think they're going to be a huge, the kind of stuff that we saw back in April when he was convicted in the first place, and all of a sudden there's a three, four point jump in his ballot question.

Megyn Kelly
Well, Holmes, can you explain that? Can you explain that? Because I think the base for sure, will be more animated than ever. Well, maybe not than ever because, I mean, after the assassination attempt, but the numbers, it wasn't just, but, but what about those independents? How would that motivate the independency needs?

Josh Holmes
Yeah, I mean, what we saw in the spring was it went well beyond the base. In fact, there's never really been a base problem for Donald Trump. He's always had a cod lock on that. What we saw happen in April is constituencies that have been harder for him to reach sort of in the center left, center right of the electorate. Predominantly women thought this guy was getting railroaded and they couldn't believe that in this country you had a political opponent which was gonna be the republican nominee for president, United States, being prosecuted not only by the administration that was an incumbent, but also states that ran entirely on a platform of putting this guy in jail. I mean, that is the antithesis of what this country was actually founded on. And when it was right in the face of the american people, it was a pretty clear choice. It was. I mean, he was running dead, even with women. He was ahead with independence. Now, we've seen all of that recede over the summer and all the events and chaos that we've had from a debate and assassination attempt and everything else. But I think if they go back down that road in September, you could see a recreation of that environment.

Comfortably Smug
I mean, because outside of the assassination attempt, which obviously was, was a great high watermark for Donald Trump, and his approval numbers jumped and everything, like trying to put him in prison is the only way you can make Donald Trump sympathetic to those cohorts of the electorate who otherwise don't really like the guy, because that system, the system that would put him in prison is a system they also don't trust. Right. And so they find that suddenly they're on the side of Donald Trump, a person who they would otherwise never vote for.

Josh Holmes
Totally, right.

John Ashbrook
And if this really is a base motivation, election style election, where Democrats are betting that they have to turn out their whole base, what do you think happens to our base if they try to do that to Trump on the eve of the election?

Every single person is going to come out to vote on our side.

Josh Holmes
Yeah, no question.

Megyn Kelly
Well, I mean, I think it may happen. Andy's smart. I've all along been thinking he wouldn't get a jail term. But Andy's point is that the way they tried this case is not just a business records case. They tried it as he tried to steal an election.

You know, by paying off this woman, we had, he had an obligation to let us hear what stormy Daniels had to say. And his unwillingness to allow that was a theft of Hillary Clinton's rightful victory. And thus, if that's what he's been convicted of in the eyes of these prosecutors and this jury and this judge, then why wouldn't he be sentenced to jail? That's a very serious offense to actually steal an election. And so, like, September 18 is an important date to circle on your calendar. It's going to be a very, very big news date. And they scheduled the hearing on whether the Supreme Court's immunity decision will vitiate the need for sentencing. Right. Does it save Trump for two days in advance? It's either the hearing or his decision on that comes down. But the point is, and Andy was making this over on his podcast, they did that. Marshawn likely did that because he knows he's not going Trump's way on it. He's going to say some things came in that otherwise shouldn't have come in because the Supreme Court said, you also can't use evidence of what a president did with his official acts in any criminal case against him. But he, Mershon could say, yeah, but that was, it was immaterial. Like, we would have reached the same judgment without that stuff. And his prediction is that's exactly what Marshawn has decided to do. He'll sort of give, like, lip service to the immunity decision and say, that doesn't affect us, and two days later, he'll sentence Donald J. Trump to jail but then suspend the sentence pending.

Josh Holmes
That's fascinating. That's a fascinating take at just a low point in our democracy. If that is, in fact, what happens, I will say, just politically, how people consume this. Outside of all the great details that you laid out, I think there's a fundamental question which is easily answered by almost everybody across the ideological spectrum, which is, would these charges have been brought? Would he have been convicted if he weren't running for president? And there is nobody, no serious person anywhere in this country who thinks that they would, I mean, they had, what, 15 years to bring these record cases. It wasn't until he filed for reelection that they actually went out and filed a, I mean, that's why these things are more quickly consumed by the american people than democratic politicians would lead you to believe.

Megyn Kelly
I mean, it's going to be a dark day.

Meanwhile, it's nothing but joy on the Democrat side. And I want to get to some of the joy that they felt. I mean, when they say joy, they mean joy. They mean, like, joy, joy at a, in an inappropriate level. I'll put it that way.

Listen, you tell me if you sense any sort of, of interesting somethings in Dana Bash's language. Last night, talking about the Democrats taking in the moment Kala Harris appeared, she made some remarks. Listen to how she described their reaction.

Now, the crowd is really excited here.

Allmodern
It's, it's electric.

Megyn Kelly
And not to mix metaphors, but it does feel like something just got uncorked. Like, you know, there's just a lot of pressure, and all of a sudden, everybody feels free to express their, their joy.

Allmodern
And there's no question that this is a feeling that democrats wanted to feel.

Megyn Kelly
They were searching for this kind of energy and this kind of enthusiasm particularly, well, just in general, but particularly given the Republican that they're running against.

I'm sorry, but I see what you're doing here.

Josh Holmes
You save these kind of things for us, don't you?

Try to get it.

Megyn Kelly
I'm not giving this as Charles CW Cook.

Josh Holmes
Smug, what was your hot take on that?

Michael Duncan
So here's what I'm going to say.

Josh Holmes
What else can be said?

Michael Duncan
What can we say? No, I just love on the night that they were supposed to be like, we're sending off Joe.

Comfortably Smug
Yeah.

Michael Duncan
That they're like, well, he was a cork. Yeah. He had stuck in the way. He was in the way of our joy.

Comfortably Smug
We're popping champagne on his political graves.

John Ashbrook
Just unbelievable.

Megyn Kelly
I do want to say something in my defense. I did raise the Jeffrey Toobin masturbatory incident with Victor Davis Hansen. So there's really no bridge I won't cross.

Josh Holmes
Okay.

Megyn Kelly
To get the story of.

Josh Holmes
I'm glad to see. Fair and balanced all the way.

Megyn Kelly
Yeah, yeah. See, I love, I respect you guys. I respect you. And I don't even have to be drunk to do it. I don't have to be drunk. I do it stone cold sober.

Maybe the same cannot be said for our potential next president. Have you guys seen the memes questioning whether Kamala Harris is drunk or just a dunce? Is she, is she drunk or dumb? Is she drunk or disorderly? I don't know.

I'm of two minds on it. I've seen some clips where she's a little slurry. You know, I can see.

And you're like, what? But some of the evidence, I was like, I don't know.

We put together the montage of the clips that have been circulating as the alleged evidence that she's a boozer. And you guys, we report, you decide. Watch.

Allmodern
You know, we have to stay woke. Like, everybody needs to be woke.

And you can talk about if you're the wokest or woker, but just stay more woke than less woke.

Yes. There is this wonderful word that has a great meaning and it's called hypothesis, which means that you have an idea and then it is well accepted. It will be tested, has wi fi and even usb outlets next to every seat.

I mean, come on. Imagine you can charge your phone on your way home from work.

That's good stuff. I'm pointing to the direction of what I believe is the Capitol.

He's gonna speak in a minute, but there's a lot of love in this room for our president.

Give us a hard time sometimes. And she would say to us, I don't know what's wrong with you young people.

You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?

Go round and round, just say, hey, Joe.

Instead of saying, no, we can't, let's say, yes, we can.

I call myself a joyful warrior.

Right?

Never let anyone take your joy from you.

Michael Duncan
So I can't say, you know, I'm not a doctor or whatever, I guess, or an officer on the side of the road making a walk of line.

Josh Holmes
On this or a substance abuse counselor.

Michael Duncan
I just know when I have, like eight or nine bourbons, I think everything I'm saying is really profound. I. And funny.

And like, if I were being videoed, I'm probably the only person laughing.

Comfortably Smug
Yeah.

Michael Duncan
And I bet it looks a lot like that.

John Ashbrook
I don't know, man. I'm also not a doctor, but I think she's dumb.

I really do.

I think that's the diagnosis is stupidity.

Comfortably Smug
There's also sort of like a stoner mentality to her. A little bit like the.

Josh Holmes
Maybe a gummy.

Comfortably Smug
That's good stuff. Like, that's like a high schooler with munchies of the Taco Bell drive in window at three in the morning.

Michael Duncan
There's like, there's a USB charger in your car.

Megyn Kelly
It's amazing.

It's truly like, okay, so it's an ongoing problem. There's no way she's drunk at all. These public appearances, somebody would notice. Work for the Kennedys wine bar named after her or something. I don't know, like a kind of a theme. Whatever, whatever.

Here she is in Pennsylvania this weekend, and this one made the rounds. People are like, what is she saying? And as you'll see in the second soundbite, we'll play. It's what we call a pattern. Okay, listen to her in Pennsylvania this past weekend talking about democracy.

Allmodern
Our election is about understanding the importance of this beautiful country of ours in terms of what we stand for around the globe as a democracy.

As a democracy, we know there's a duality to the nature of democracy.

On the one hand, incredible strength when it is intact, incredibly strong and incredibly fragile.

John Ashbrook
You make a favorite of her.

She can't be drunk at every single one of these things, but she can be dumb at every single one of these things.

That's the control.

Josh Holmes
She reminds me of, like, oh, you got me.

Megyn Kelly
She's not done. Watch. She loves this one.

Allmodern
The nature of democracy is there are two sides to it in terms of the nature of it. There's a duality. There's a duality to the nature of democracy.

When it's intact.

Oh, it's so strong, and it is very fragile.

The nature of democracy, there's a duality to it has two sides to it. Democracy, there's a duality to it. On the one hand, a democracy, when it is intact, is very strong.

On the other hand, and here is the duality. Democracy is also extremely fragile. It will only be as strong as the willingness of its people to fight for it.

Comfortably Smug
I love how she says, and here's the duality part.

Josh Holmes
And here's the duality, because it's the.

Comfortably Smug
Second part, like, you know, it's a really good rhetorical device when you have to explain it that much.

Josh Holmes
Well, she's got, like, the. In the full act, each and every one. It's like she's thinking it through on the fly.

Comfortably Smug
It's a very simple concept.

Josh Holmes
It's a pretty simple concept. Yeah, it's exactly right.

Megyn Kelly
That's her acting right. It's. That's her faith, this.

Josh Holmes
Yep, yep. No, that's exactly right. I mean, she reminds me of, like, the shittiest motivational speaker that's ever addressed a junior high anywhere in this country. That in a cross between, like, a substitute teacher who has more degrees than a thermometer but can't hold down a job. Like, the combination of those two things is, I think, where you get, like, the duality, maybe mix in a tip top or a chardonnay, and then you got, like, the full perfect.

Megyn Kelly
She just like, there is no wisdom there. That's the thing that's so possible about her becoming president. You're like, there's no wisdom. There's no depth of thinking. This person's not fast on her feet. And whatever she tries to use as a stirring rhetorical device is false, empty, and didn't work on me the first ten times you tried it.

John Ashbrook
But remember, remember the first three years of Biden's administration? She was a punchline for everybody because of this. And everybody was like, oh, no, Joe Biden's not going anywhere because his insurance policy is his vice president. Nobody thinks his vice president can actually do that job. I mean, that's what everybody talked about before she got the nod to be their nominee. And now, all of a sudden, everybody has to be one of her yes Menta and staffers. The entire press has to be her yes person staffer who listens to that bullshit over and over again. And is like, oh, yeah, Kamala, that sounds so smart. You killed it, boss.

Josh Holmes
You know what I mean?

Comfortably Smug
Everything that was once absurd, that they laughed at, is now treated as profound.

Josh Holmes
Yeah, right. Yeah. And the few staffers that are left. Cause she ran through about ten dozen of them the first year and a half.

John Ashbrook
There were multiple stories written about that specific thing.

Michael Duncan
Yeah.

Josh Holmes
That she just couldn't hold. Like, nobody wanted to work for her. She was insane. She had these, like, circular logic reasoning machines and kept getting pissed off that she was put in a position of having to defend the indefensible and all these things like that nobody liked to work for. And they're trying to make this lady president I states, what a scary proposition.

John Ashbrook
Yeah, right. It's why Charlie spearing.

Megyn Kelly
Yeah, Charlie spearing. He's been great. Wait, can I say this?

They. Now, we've learned over the past week that that Lester Holt interview she gave was really jarring for her. She was shaken up by how poorly she did where he's. She's like, we've been to the border. And he, to his credit, is like, you've never been to the border, and I've never been to Europe.

What's your point?

And it was disastrous. And she had. She got criticized roundly for it. And apparently, according to the reporting, she went underground after that. She was very shaken by how poorly she did and the reaction to her her. And became obsessed with not repeating that mistake, not giving interviews. Was worried about what Fox News might be saying about her. Got, like, just very, like, oh, you know, I. My career requires me to be quiet. And she was relatively quiet after that point. You know, we saw her doing a couple things that probably seemed like they'd be harmless, like going to the space museum, and then they weren't because she. She got dumb and said weird things. Um, but now they've learned their lesson, right? She's out there, and she understands she cannot do it. And they understand that too. Everyone's running cover. And the few times she's spoken out like that duality remark was the other day, you get a glimpse into the real her. Like, the not the curated version. We keep getting forced on us by the teleprompter and at these, you know, events, like the campaign events, and I'm sure at the convention on Thursday night.

You want to talk about duality. There's your duality right there.

Josh Holmes
That's right. I mean, look, I think the one thing that you can have some confidence in is running for president, with the notable exception of 2020, when they just kept Joe Biden in the basement and blamed it on a gun. Covid is at some point, you're going to have a revelation of who this person is. Right.

She has a confined timeline for that. Usually that plays out in a primary and the beginnings of a general election. She's trying to do all this in 90 days, but I think in 90 days, it is impossible to entirely keep that out because that's who she is. Megan. She has no business running for president, United States. She has no business being in the office that she's currently in.

That will come out with just any exposure, I think.

John Ashbrook
Right. Some people just aren't cut out for that line of work, and that's why she didn't make it to Iowa. She's not Obama. She thinks, like, I can be Obama. I can be just like him. I can be president. Even if she becomes president, she's not Obama. She's not capable of doing what he's able to do. She just doesn't have the skillset. I mean, maybe she could be an attorney or something in California, but, like, president of the United states from this woman, I just. Can you imagine on an international stage, the laughing stock? Our country will be behind her back. You know that. You know, these world leaders, they have text messages, too. They send videos to each other and laugh about it just like everybody else. You know, they send videos of her doing exactly what you showed your audience, and they're laughing at her. They'd be laughing at us.

Josh Holmes
Yeah.

Comfortably Smug
Yeah.

Megyn Kelly
And we're gonna get a lot more just like it if she wins. They're not gonna be able to keep her behind closed doors forever. There's just too many moments as president, president for you to ad lib or go off script. And that's what's going to happen if she wins. I mean, it could be fun for us media people, but not, not so much for the country. Stand by the fellows from ruthless. Stay with us. I'm Megyn Kelly, host of the Megyn Kelly show on Sirius XM. It's your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations with the most interesting and important political, legal, and cultural figures. Today, you can catch the Megyn Kelly show on Triumph, a serious sex channel featuring lots of hosts you may know and probably love great people like Doctor Laura, Glenn Beck, Nancy Grace, Dave Ramsey, and yours truly, Megyn Kelly. You can stream the Megyn Kelly show on SiriusXM at home or anywhere you are. No car required. I do it all the time. I love the SiriusXM app. It has ad free music coverage of every major sport, comedy, talk, podcast and more. Subscribe now. Get your first three months for free.

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Donald Trump
Decision over attorney Roe v. Wade. As you heard earlier tonight, United States Supreme Court majority already wrote the following, quote, women are not without electrical, without, not allowed, not without electoral. Electoral or political power.

No kidding.

Michael Duncan
The Supreme Court took electricity away from you guys.

Megyn Kelly
We don't use it. This whole studio is run by candidates. Handle.

Josh Holmes
A guy on a wheel machine just pedaling in the back.

Comfortably Smug
Yeah.

Megyn Kelly
What I want to know, it's just a reminder, right?

Comfortably Smug
It's a reminder of like how long, it's a reminder. It's a reminder of how incompetent the people surrounding Joe Biden are as well, that you could be his speech writer at this point in his presidency and not know, just instinctively know when you're writing. All right, electoral, that's, he can't do that. He can't do that word.

Josh Holmes
It's totally right. He's written a lot of speeches for people over the years. Like, you have to have some idea of the capability intuitively of the person that you're writing for. I mean, if they're not perfectly eloquent, you don't throw like seven syllable words in there, back to back and try to figure it out for him. I guess electoral is stumbled on that.

Megyn Kelly
One before, I think that's not my first time seeing him stumble on that. And insurrection shouldn't be in there either. Fyde eye, our reaction to that is, was kind of reflected like you could kind of feel. I tweeted this out last night and I stand by it.

When Joe Biden sat down, I was like, that was it.

That was, that's what he got in exchange for giving up a presidential nomination. It was like, yay, Joe.

But it wasn't really that great. Like the reception I'm talking about by the audience, I didn't feel the love. Like, I didn't feel like they hated him. I wasn't like, oh, no one's clapping. But I just kind of expected more. I thought we'd see tons of people crying.

There was a sot with Chris Coons before he took the stage. Biden and this kind of is representative of how I felt watching the audience all night. Watch this sat eleven.

Donald Trump
On behalf of our democratic party, for.

Josh Holmes
Your loyalty in fighting for our democratic values, we thank you.

And on behalf of Delaware thank you, Joe. And God bless you. We love you.

Donald Trump
We love Joe.

Josh Holmes
We love Joe.

We love Joe.

We love Joe.

John Ashbrook
It's just worse.

Comfortably Smug
The woman doing the side eye right at the end, like, come on. It's even too much for me. Yeah, it was a retirement party. I mean, they did everything short of hand them the gold watch, you know.

Michael Duncan
And I was thinking this when I was watching the exact same thing that you're bringing up, Megan, is this was supposed to be like, you know, some, like, reverent, momentous, like capstoning this remarkable political career and expressing gratitude. But again, like homes matches. The cynicism just seeped through all of it where it seems so fake. I thought when I was watching that, of the moment when George Hw Bush passed away. And then you saw Bob Dole was brought in to the rotunda where, where George HW Bush was in waiting and he had an aide lift him so that he could salute him. And you had more reverence shown by one person than a room of 10,000 people were capable of because that was just fake. It was just fake.

Josh Holmes
Yeah. They just don't care. Right. I mean, it's, it's on to the next.

John Ashbrook
It really is.

Josh Holmes
It's all a game to them. It's, it's on to the next. And, and I, as an aside, wouldn't you have loved to be a fly on the wall when someone came in and had to brief the sitting president, United States, of his speaking slot?

John Ashbrook
I mean, when, when Richard Ben Kramer profiled Joe Biden in the 1990 1988 race and takes. It's a great book. I love it. I recommend it to smug and now he recommends everybody else.

I just, I just don't think that he could have imagined that Biden's career would end on a Monday night after 11:30 p.m. yeah.

Michael Duncan
Oh, God, that is true.

John Ashbrook
I just don't, I don't think you could have ever. 50 years in politics and that's what he gets. And he did it to himself. He really did it to himself.

Megyn Kelly
He's really good going. You can't, like, I know. We love Joe rolls. It was so telling, although not to the people on MSNBC, who, to close the show as we began it with the fakeness of what we witnessed last night.

It gavel to gavel. Here's Rachel Maddow.

I just feel like in my 51 years of american life, I don't know of another big civic or I earnest, heartfelt, emotional expression of thanks, you know, that we congratulate one another we have parades for heroes, and we celebrate people's victories, but to celebration of thanks.

And, you know, we appreciate and love you for your civic virtue and for what you've done to our country. I mean, since we've had.

Since we have had parades, welcome home, people who have fought in war, and it has been generations since we have done that. I don't know anything else like that.

Oh, my God, you guys.

Michael Duncan
You know, they still have those parades. You just don't show up.

Josh Holmes
No, she shows up. She's just holding a picket sign.

Comfortably Smug
Yeah.

Josh Holmes
I mean, it's just not watching it. Right. I mean, that. That's. It's this narrative building that happens in the left, on the left, in their media apparatching. That is a narrative building about what you're seeing that you didn't actually see.

Right. And it's even more jarring if you were one of the few that actually had to sit through the entire 45 minutes to get to the end of that and being like, well, what you've seen here is just an outpouring of love and support, which is not what it was. Right. It just wasn't.

John Ashbrook
No, it's improv fiction. Most people watch improv comedy. Democrats every single day do improv fiction, and some of them do it better than others.

Megyn Kelly
It's the opposite of what they normally do, which is when we see a man, they tell us it's a woman and we should ignore our eyes.

Now we have them doing the opposite. We see a lack of enthusiasm, and they tell us we saw enthusiasm.

I got to end on this one. You speak of Rachel Maddow. She's normally at the protests with the placard. Could be she shouldn't try that in Chicago because look what happened to this guy. Guy?

Josh Holmes
Well, he pooped his pants.

Michael Duncan
They're treating Joe Biden like this.

This is supposed to his retirement party.

Josh Holmes
This is another well reasoned young man out for civic duty.

Michael Duncan
The final indignity.

Megyn Kelly
Duty. Operative word being duty. Well done.

A pleasure. That was a special one, you guys. That was a special one. Thank you.

Josh Holmes
It was so good. It's so good to see you again, Megan. We'll do this as many times as you want to. We always have such a blast.

Megyn Kelly
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Dems Disrespect Biden as They Kick Him Out, and Fake Speeches and Lies at the DNC, with the Ruthless Podcast Hosts | Ep. 865

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1: Introduction and Background

2: Detailed Analysis of Biden's Speech

3: Broader Political Implications

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