#2145 - Colin Quinn

Joe Rogan
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Hello. Hello, Joe. Joe. That was fun last night. Let me just start by saying what a fun time at the club, the green room and everything else.

And here's what I was, I was talking to you, head of security at the club. Here's what I love about the club. I worked the club. I had a great weekend a couple of months ago, is they keep the audience in line. Nobody's heckling without getting booted.

Is that not the most important thing in comedy that nobody talks about? It's very important. It's unbelievable. And unfortunately, there's so many crowd work clips that get put out on Instagram. People are now thinking that they want to be a part of the show.

Colin Quinn
And so I see people much more often chiming in and yelling things out, and they think they're going to be a part of things. Yeah. And even when you go, when you try to be nice on the first line, go, that was okay, sir. Then they try again. You're like, listen, you, Pete.

Joe Rogan
Oh, my God. But that's what I love about your club. Everybody there just has the energy. Like, we're going to tell you right now, another word, you're out. That's how it should be.

Colin Quinn
Yeah. Because as you know, there's no. Nobody heckles once, right? Nobody's ever heckled once. Nobody heckles sober either.

Joe Rogan
And nobody heckles sober. And they just like to start trouble. And the green was fun. And even though I didn't go on, it was. I also didn't go on because you have to understand the language where I was like, you know, you want to go on?

I go, I don't really want to go on. You go, that's cool. But really, then you're supposed to say, the crowd really wants you to go. And I'm like, Joe, I don't want to bump anybody. No, you wouldn't be bumping anybody.

We'll just cut Tony's time down. Joe, I don't want to be that guy. Like, don't be ridiculous. Oh, I have to dance with you. Go on.

Colin Quinn
I didn't know you wanted to dance. If you want to dance tonight. No, I gotta leave. Go to Seattle tonight. What the fuck?

Joe Rogan
I gotta go. I would love to. Yeah. Are you performing tonight in Seattle? No, no.

Maybe I could change my flight. Well, let's see. Maybe I could change it. Move it around. There's plenty of flights out of Austin.

It's a wonderful hub. It is. It's great. It keeps booming every time I was here. Last time I was here was COVID.

Colin Quinn
Yeah. I don't think it's going to get too much bigger peak. You think so? Yeah, yeah, I think it's. You think Shane Gillis was the last citizen they allowed in?

No, there's a few more coming. Joe DeRosa just got a place here. He did? Yeah. And Joey Diaz is getting a place here.

Joe Rogan
I can't believe the two Joe D's are going to be here. Let's go. That's great. Joe Diaz and Joe DeRosa is a fierce combination. I know, but I spoke to Joe DeRosa yesterday.

I deliberately didn't go to the chicken place because of Joe DeRosa. Really? Why? Because when he recommended it, it just bugged me. His.

His confidence. When he goes, you gotta try this chicken place. And I was like, gus's fried chicken. I know. It's phenomenal.

I just don't like the. Joe's position himself as the new gastronomic expert in. Because he owns a sub shop. Yeah. By the way, it's a good sub shop, though.

I heard it's amazing. Fucking great. I'm embarrassed. It's fucking great. He brought some over when they were doing Moon Tower.

Colin Quinn
He was in town. He brought some subs over. They were fucking tremendous. He's got a great place. Yeah.

I always look at the Instagram photos. I'm like, oh, my God, it looks so good. They said the bread's amazing. Everything's amazing. The food's amazing.

He makes a great sub. He's obviously. It's a labor of love, you know, he's a professional comic. It's a side thing. He's like, I like sandwiches.

Let's make a sandwich shop. And he knocked it out of the park. Everybody who goes are big subs. Not expensive. The name Joey Roses is good.

It's great. It's great. It's anger producing in some ways, but. A lot of ways for you. You have a thing with him, I think, with Joe.

Yeah. I try to have a thing with everybody. That's my thing, Joe, I like to have a thing. If you had studied just. If you just studied straight karate and weren't into mma, maybe I could have a thing with you.

Joe Rogan
But let's face it, you don't play games. I do play games. You're not to be taken lightly. But what about. Yeah, the.

Yeah, before I came down here, I was. Cause in New York. It's so funny. When the green room last night, all I wanna do is bus balls with everybody. Yeah.

Like, that's the. That's what I live for. It's fun, you know? And when you see Shane Gillis in there, Shane Gillis is just that guy. He's so big.

I just want you to. I want you to. I want you to lock him in a basement and just feed him, like, red meat and make him train mma for, like, two years and just eat mescaline and red meat. I just became a stone cold killer. Wow.

That's my dream. I got him working out for shit. Yeah, I know. Yeah, he looked sore yesterday. He said he'd be really sore.

Colin Quinn
We did two hard days this morning. Look how big he is. He's a big fuck. Yeah. Big old football player kid.

Joe Rogan
If I was as big as him, I wouldn't be a comic. No, I'd be an animal. I'd be working security at the club, telling people, shut up. Tony's trying to do something with comedy's like. It's got an anger to it, don't you think?

Colin Quinn
A little bit. Yeah, it's got to. Well, there's just so much resistance. It's so difficult to get through. Yeah.

It's a lot of fucking running up that river. Yeah, what about. Yeah. Even the way, you know, we talk to each other, like, I'm at the cellar the other night. So here's what happened.

Joe Rogan
So I'm just sitting there. Keith is there. Norton's there. So just give the waitress. First of all, I.

I'm like the sinatra of tipping. I didn't want to bring this up, but now I'm bringing up because this is part of the story. So I tip them, but I always put it there. Cause I'm trying not to flash how much I tip, right. So I'm trying to do it like that.

So Norton goes, ugh, you're tipping. You're not part of the rat pack. They just are trashing me for ten minutes. Meanwhile, what I should've said was, I'm only doing that so you cheap bastards don't look bad, you know? I understand.

Yeah. This is a daily thing. I enjoy tipping myself. Yeah, I could see you're a high roller. Love bomb.

Colin Quinn
Give a love bomb. Yes. An extra few dollars, and it makes their home. Dad, you don't even feel it makes people happy. I always try to tell my cheap friends, like, you got to get over that.

Joe Rogan
Yeah, fuck that. 15%. What are you doing? I agree. There's a lot of chisel is.

Yeah. And they think of excuses. Yeah. Like, oh, you see that attitude? You gave me.

Colin Quinn
Yeah, I give people big tips and they give me shitty service. I just want everybody to be happy. Yeah, you can give them a little happiness and maybe they'll be nicer to the next people and use the butterfly effect. Well, it's certainly not working for the planet right now. Let's face it.

Joe Rogan
Eh? We're all right. I think the problem is we're inundated with bad news constantly. Yeah. That's the real problem.

Colin Quinn
And then, you know, there's also, like, the problems in cities. Yeah. Well, everywhere. I mean, you know, I just did a special, by the way, about. It's releasing tomorrow.

Joe Rogan
It's about. I did it in front of a psychiatrist's convention. Did you really? Yeah. Yeah.

Colin Quinn
Wow. I just did it. And so I found, I sought out a psychiatrist convention and went there and said, hey, would you guys let me go on, just do my shoot, my special, in front of you? And they said, sure. So I did a whole thing, then they analyzed me afterwards, and it was funny.

What room was it at? It was a ballroom, like one of those conventions, you know, it was like a Washington, DC, some hotel off the beaten path where they were just having a convention. And they did not plan on you being there? No. And so you knew they were gonna be there at that time.

Joe Rogan
Yeah. And you coordinated with them, set up cameras, the whole deal? Yeah. Did you inform them before, like the psychiatrist beforehand, they were gonna be a part of a comedy special? Well, they were.

They were welcome to come to the show or not, but, yeah, we told them before, you know, if you come, you might be on film. But, yeah, they didn't have to show up, obviously. Half of them probably showed up, but it was. That's a great idea. Yeah.

I thought it was because it's about the world, how we're having a psychotic break when we're talking about the planet. So it was kind of fun for me because, you know, it was interesting for that angle. You know, the whole specials built around it. It's so much more discussed. The bad news is so much more discussed.

Colin Quinn
People's problems are so much more discussed. Having problems is so much more a thing that people love to talk about now. It makes you more interesting. It gives you something to talk about, and it's just so pervasive. And I think social media has just broken people's brains.

Joe Rogan
Social media started as a fun ants kitchen where everybody was being positive and saying like, hey, you know, dance between the raindrops. And then suddenly somebody was like, shut up, bitch. You fat bitch. Fuck you and the raindrops. And it just unleashed all of us.

That's what I say. It's like it unleashed that part of people. And here's the other thing, which I think you'd be interested in. It's the first time in history you can threaten people and curse them out and not have to run or have a physical confrontation. So fight or flight instinct is going to be eliminated from our genetics in two generations.

Colin Quinn
Yeah. Not just that, but also, you don't feel bad. Like, if you say something shitty to someone, you see the look on their face. Even if you feel like you should have done it. When you're alone at night, you might be like, I didn't have to do that.

Why did I do that? What a fucking asshole I am. Now that bur. I gotta apologize. Then you'll see him the next day.

Like, I was out of line. I'm sorry. I was dealing with a lot of shit, you know? My mom, my sister, my this, my that. Sorry.

I'm sorry, but there's none of that. No, you don't even know these people too. You don't have to say, you can't. Just say the most evil, mean shit, vicious shit. Look through their pictures.

Look at you, you fat fuck, and your fucking toothless smile. And. And they used to have, they used to have gossip magazines. Like, if celebrities in the 1950s, that's when they started to realize people love to read bad, scandalous stuff. But now you get to respond.

Joe Rogan
You're like the writer and the reader of the gossip magazine. You know what I do enjoy, though? When people don't understand how it works. And they'll post something and just get smashed in the comments, and then they'll start going back and forth with people in the comments, like, what are you doing? Yeah, what are you doing?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, what about? Well, one of the biggest problems is people. This is one of many of them trying to be funny that they, they've never had to, they've always thought they were kind of funny.

And then they go in and try to be funny, and they get away with a couple because they have two people that go, hey, that was good. They start to think I'm funny. And then they get in there and people just start destroying them for trying to be funny because they're not used to the heckling that we're used to. Right. We got trained out of all our hack habits.

Colin Quinn
Mm hmm. Yeah. Comedy trains you. The audience trains you. Mm hmm.

Joe Rogan
And being around, and being around other comics regularly. What the fuck was that joke regulation. Yeah, it does. Yes. Yeah.

Colin Quinn
You get feedback. Yeah. Feedback's important, positive and negative. It's on all of the level. Yeah.

Who gets more feedback than comics? We get, like, real, live feedback from hundreds of people every night. Every night. You got feedback last night. Just last night.

Joe Rogan
You can't live in a theoretical world of, like, I think this is funny. I think this is good. You're getting feedback. Mm mm. Yeah.

You know, fun, though. Don't you still enjoy it? It's the best. It's the only honest reaction you could get in today. There's nothing virtual about it.

Colin Quinn
The most honest form of entertainment, because you write it, you perform it, you. You produce it, you edit it. Like I was saying, like, how easy doing sitcoms was when I first started doing sitcoms. I go, they're great writers. They write you great jokes.

You don't even have to work hard. And I was talking about how bad my act suffered during those days, because when I was first on a sitcom in 94, we were working like, 12 hours a day. News, radio, it was long, long, long days. So by the end of the day, I'm exhausted. So if I did go up, it was just the same old material, just rehash.

I wasn't connected it anymore. I was, like, flat, you know? And. Because when they're writing for you, it's so much easier. Like, the jokes are already.

All you have to do is, like, add your little sauce to them. It's great. Up a little bit. I know. I get so jealous of the idea of, like, the old days, comedians would just have writers.

Oh, yeah. Like, what do you got for me? We gotta go out and think of this stuff. A few people still do that, right? Yeah, a few guys do.

Like, I know, obviously the guys who host talk shows do. Yeah. You know, you can't write a new monologue every day. You'd be out of your mind, or you'd be on. I did on tough crowd.

You wrote that every day. Now, I'm not saying most of them didn't bomb, but I did write them all myself. No shit. Yeah. When I went to see you on tough crowd, the best part of it was you warming up the crowd.

I was like, why don't they show this? This is funnier than the rest of the whole show. It was so good. Thanks. It's so good.

Joe Rogan
It was fun. And that crowd was crazy. They would come, like, a lot. Well, I was living in California at the time, and I just, like, sometimes I forget. Sometimes you haven't seen a guy in a while, you're like, God damn, I forgot how funny car is.

Colin Quinn
You need to see it. You need to see them live. You do. You need to go out and see it. Yeah, just get in your head.

It's the best thing. I've been doing it for so long, but I still love it. I love it. I love crowds. I love watching it.

I love doing it. I love it. It's so much fun. And what's fun about it, too, is you can't. If you don't, it's like working out.

Joe Rogan
If you don't do it, you just get flabby and out of shape. Yeah, that's it. No if, ands or buts about it. When I take time off, I go on vacation for, like, ten days. I have one really good set when I come back.

Colin Quinn
Cause I'm enthusiastic. And the second set is, like, a little fucking shaky. I'm like, what's going on? That was great. That's a horror.

Joe Rogan
But that's the best part about it. It's just reality. Everybody that steps away from it too long, they talk in this turn with. It's like, oh, you gotta do a reality. I'm mediocre when I get on stage.

I'm gonna be mediocre tonight, even though I don't wanna be. And I'm like, hey, I really figured this out. And guess what? I didn't figure it out. And the crowd just lets you know.

That's the beauty. How much time did you take off. During COVID I did a few shows. I mean, I did some shows that were, like, on. I did remote shows, which I loved.

Remote comedy. Really? I loved it. Like, Zoom comedy. Zoom comedy.

Colin Quinn
You loved it? I loved it. You're the only guy I've talked to. Everybody else said it was hell because I just read. They think I'm looking at them.

Joe Rogan
I'm reading my act. So any new material was memorized immediately. Oh, it's great. Every new job. Maybe she get a teleprompter.

What's that? Maybe you should get a teleprompter. I've tried teleprompters. Yeah? Yeah.

I wish I could bring them all the time. Yeah, you tried it on stage. I love teleprompters. No shit. Yeah, no, it's a good way to make sure you remember your shit.

Yes. Telepomper is the greatest. Because the worst feeling is when you get back to the green room, you're like, fuck that tagline. I forgot the tagline. Yeah.

Or even the intro line. So you're like, of course it bombed. I didn't even explain what I was going to talk about. Yeah, I love it. Yeah.

Teleprompter is great. But I've used teleprompters on shows when I did, like, one man shows in New York. And you can't memorize with the teleprompter, you get lazy. Mentally lazy. You can't.

Then you go on the road and you're like. You'd think you'd say it every night. You memorize it. You can't. It's an interesting psychological thing.

Colin Quinn
I know some guys who lay out sheets of paper on the floor on the stage with, like, bullet points. I've tried that. Yeah? Yeah. It doesn't really work that well.

It's weird. The lights are weird. Yeah, but you can't even see them. Do you go on stage with glasses on? No.

That would help. This is one of the first times I've been glasses in public. So really, I hope the crowd. Well, I wanted people to take me seriously during the interview. Vibe.

It's a vibe. It's hot on chicks. Yeah, I agree. A girl who doesn't see that good. For whatever reason.

Joe Rogan
For whatever reason, they just seem smarter. Hey, for whatever reason. Yeah. There's something intense that only became in the seventies that became, like, a thing suddenly. Girls with glasses.

Colin Quinn
Girls with glasses are hotter. Yeah. They had the whole new glasses. I'll tell you, certain people just look great in sunglasses. The first person I noticed as a kid, one of your idols, Bruce Lee.

Joe Rogan
I go, that guy looks badass in sunglasses. Oh, yeah. And he had like, they weren't completely dark. They were like, mixed. I was like, that looks cool.

Colin Quinn
Yeah, he was a cool motherfucker. He was a cool motherfucker. Yeah. That dude changed the world. Unbelievable.

Nobody thought about doing karate before Bruce Lee. Nobody cared. Well, even when he was on the Green Hornet. I'm old enough. I was there for the Green Hornet days.

Joe Rogan
And you're like, yeah, that's kind of cool. But you didn't think about it. But the minute those movies came out, we all saw them. When they first came out, I saw chinese connection. It was called Fist and Fury.

They changed the titles now, but it was chinese connection. Was the first one, then Fist of Fury and then enter the dragon. Yeah, those are three big ones. And. And it was the first time we ever saw somebody with abs.

Yes. Like, whoa. How cool that look. Yes. How cool does it look to be ripped?

Colin Quinn
Yeah, look at that. Look at that. Come on. I mean, I hate to say it but my profile pic when I was 19, I basically have the same physique. I don't care what anyone says.

It looks like a twink today, though. Yeah. Well, because nobody lifted weights in those days, you know? But he was. He was the king.

Look at the abs on that motherfucker. Jesus Christ. Today he'd be accused of having fake abs. Yeah. Yeah, he's a badass.

Hmm. Bruce Lee gold metal sunglasses. Oh, you can buy them. Oh, yeah. But I don't think those are the ones I'm thinking about.

No, that one in that photo looks pretty fucking cool. No, it wasn't these. It was some other look where he just was casually wearing sunglasses. What a cool dude. Yeah, he was a badass.

Joe Rogan
He was a real superstar. He just was a star. Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah. Transcended.

Yeah. And it also was happening during that weird time, the weird time in life. In the seventies, after Vietnam was really winding down. It was almost done. Now we're back to 1968.

Colin Quinn
Yeah, we're right there. Right now. We're in 1968. We're waiting for Kent State to jump off. You seen these fucking protests that are happening in colleges.

Joe Rogan
Yeah. First of all, these kids are all wearing masks. They're outside, they're protesting, and they're all wearing masks. I say that it's like the democrats maga hat. That's what the mask is.

Isn't it nice? You're letting everybody know. You're letting everybody know that you're a part of the Klan, that you're on the good side. Yeah, I'm masking. I'm masking for your safety.

Colin Quinn
Yeah, they're just bizarre human beings coming out of colleges today. Well, I'm fully brainwashed. Yeah, well, it's. I say it this way. It's.

Joe Rogan
It's 20. Let's say 20% of them are. Just. 20% of them are. Are kids that were raised to hate the west.

Everything in the west is bad. They're brainwashed. If. Which is really the whole curriculum is 20% of that, then I'd say 20% are kids that are. They're the kids that feel like they want to be.

Like, like when I was in college. Like when I was in college, remember, this is happening during finals week. So 20% of finals protesters where somebody came up to. If somebody came up to me when I was in college and said, listen, next week is finals. You know, you're gonna fail.

How about this? We're gonna give you some money from this. George Soros, founder, is a Venmo thing. Just, we're going to give you money. You stand outside and you block the other.

Not only do you not have to take your finals, you're going to block the kids that are going to make you look bad and pass their finals. You're going to block them from coming to class. I would have said, give me the scarf. I'll put it on right now. Then you got to 20%.

Kids are going to be. They're like the ones that appear pressured by their roommates, because if your roommates and people in college, they know your schedule, so they go, hey, we're going to go protest genocide. You can't say, I'm going. I was going to go to the bar.

So half these kids are like, God damn it. Now I got to go out to the protest or I look bad in front of all my roommates. Have you ever seen, when they get interviewed, Constantine Kissen from trigonometry, he went to the protests and he was just asking them, like, what, the river to the sea, what does that mean to you? Like, asking questions? What do you think should happen?

Colin Quinn
Like, what do you think the history of Palestine is? Like, yeah. And now they're literally. They're literally praying. They're praying to Mekina.

Joe Rogan
Did you see all the footage of them? Oh, wonderful. They're Bowie. It's like, I am objectively, like, going to put a fatwa on my mother. I just want to come out publicly and say, china, Russia, you guys won't.

Colin Quinn
You won. You got our kids. You got the kids. You got a lot of them. You got more of them than you didn't get.

Joe Rogan
No, they don't want them. Listen, China, they're teaching kids computer engineering. Law schools are teaching, like, you know, state sanctioned violence in Shakespeare sonnets and. You know, guys with fake eyelashes reading the toddlers. Yeah, that's what it is.

Colin Quinn
That's what TikTok is. Our TikTok's a disaster. Yeah, yeah, they're smart. I mean, they got us. They got us.

They won't. They won the ideological battle. They've destroyed our universities. They've destroyed our faith. We did.

Yeah, but they did. They infiltrated the universities. It happened way before that, in my opinion. When did it happen? They just went like this.

Joe Rogan
All they had to do was go like this. You ever see Yuri Besmanov talk about it? He's a defector from the KGB. He talked about it in a famous interview from 1984. We talk about it way too much.

Colin Quinn
So I'm sorry if you're hearing this again, folks, but he basically laid out exactly what was going to happen to America in 1964. And he was saying 64, yep. Or, excuse me, 1984. He was saying that marxism and leninist ideas have been, they've infiltrated all the universities with these ideas. They're teaching them the children.

And you have like two generations from now, you're gonna be fucked. Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. It started long before any of this. China, he didn't say China. He didn't say they did it.

He said Russia did it. So Russia was doing it. So they're actively subverting our education system. But I feel like the idea of this kind of thing started long before, you know, before, I mean, it's been around a long time because people like, hey, it sounds fair. Like equality sounds fair, right?

Joe Rogan
So then they slowly started bringing it in. And people, the general narrative is, if you say, if I say to you right now, if you say anywhere, I think America is a great country, people go, oh my God, do you hear this psychopath? You're an idiot. He's the dumbest person I've ever met. Yeah.

So I'm saying if you start from the premise that America is evil, which is basically the premise today, and everything we do is, you know, based on oppression and violence, then anybody that goes against that, there's something evil about them. Yes. So I don't think that was Russia and China doing that. I think that was us doing it. I think Russia and China influenced it.

Colin Quinn
It's particularly russian. I think they just agreed they were well useful idiots and all that stuff they used to talk about. Yeah, but I think they didn't. I didn't think they had far to go. I don't think you could do it unless people wanted to go along with that.

Well, it's also a situation where your universities are almost entirely dedicated towards one ideology. That's right. You don't have any. Look, there's clearly over history, regardless of what you think about right wing people, clearly over history there have been brilliant conservative people. And to not address that and to not have those people talk and to only allow liberal people to talk, progressive people to talk, you're going to get a distorted worldview.

And that's as kids are getting. That's. Well, I mean, even just the fact that Russia and China didn't force them to stop people from speaking at these places, you know what I mean? Like, that's, that's what's been going on for whatever amount of years. Yeah.

Joe Rogan
And you're like me, you're not some right wing guy. Or, you know, I mean, you're not, but, but you've been pushed into a category that people are saying you're this kind of guy because they're so far to the left and so stringent ideologically, that if you fluctuate, you're out of the loop. And that's, that's a cult. It is a cult. But isn't it?

Colin Quinn
I mean, it's one of the beauties. One of the beautiful things about America is the amount of freedom we have of expression. And when you have that, and you have 330 million people, you're gonna have a certain percentage of people that are just off the rails. Insane. Yes.

And if those people are rabid about it and excited about it, a lot of people find that attractive. Just like a lot of people find Islam attractive. And they don't just find it attractive because of the discipline and the tenants and all the different things that seem to resonate with some people. They find it attractive because those people are all in, and you want to be in a group that's all in. Like, if I leave, they'll kill me.

They'll kill you if you leave. But you can join. You can join. They'll take you in as a brother. Ooh, I want to join.

And then people just. It becomes attractive to them because moderates are considered pussy. I talk about this all the time. Moderates are considered. All you can see is a bland guy in dockers with his goddamn, you know, with his dad BoD.

Joe Rogan
And nobody's interested in moderates. Fence sitters. Fence sitters. I say even in, even in Superman, you've got Lois Lane. She sees Clark Kent, nice guy.

He's like, hey, Lois, I want to have dinner. She's like, just dinner, Clark. No. All right, I'm sorry. And then Superman, who shows up 2 hours a week, who's an extremist, just break shit.

And she's like, so I'm saying, we. Our whole culture is built around extremists, right? Like, the hero in the movie walks away after blowing up a hydroelectric dirt. He's never the guy that troubleshoots the hydroelectric dam that should be the hero in every movie. Imagine being Clark Kent.

Colin Quinn
And you got a deal with this lady just constantly talking up Superman and talking down to you. And you're like, bitch, you don't know shit. Yes. And you just gotta sit there and take it. Cause you just can't spill the beans.

You wanna say, hey, fucking, you know, just take the glass off. Were you stupid? You're the same guy but just wearing glasses. I tricked you with glasses. I catfished you.

You didn't notice that I built like a fucking linebacker? You didn't notice that I look like a giant super person? Yeah. Oh, I just have glasses on, so now I'm a loser? Well, because she never slept with them.

Joe Rogan
That's why she didn't notice, right? Cause she was like, Clark, lay off. You think Clark would, like, show off, like, every now and then, like, pick something up he shouldn't be able to pick up? Yeah, but she. Oh, I didn't know Clark's an incel.

Colin Quinn
Yeah, he is an incel. An angry incel. A handsome, angry, football quarterback looking insult. Yeah, yeah, he's an insult. Just to the glasses.

Isn't it funny? Like, that was the only disguise he had with glasses. It's the dumbest fucking disguise in all of comic books. At least Batman. Like, maybe he had a weird face.

Like if you had, like, a cleft palate, you're like, hey, buddy, I fucking. I know who you are. But no, you know, you just see the little face part and the rest of the face is covered, like, okay. Hides his voice. I'm Batman.

Okay, okay, maybe. What are you talking about? Yeah, it's fucking stupid. It is stupid. But the, but speaking of Bruce Lee, the green Hornet had a mask.

Joe Rogan
But then Kato was Bruce Lee. We didn't realize, by the way, here's a stupid sitcom I'm watching. As a little kid, we didn't realize. There's a lifetime legend playing the sidekick. Yeah.

How many times does that happen? Never in life. And. But even then. But he wore this little chauffeur's outfit, if I remember correctly.

Colin Quinn
Yep. Bruce Lee wore like a. He was like this sidekick. Yeah, but he was. But even then you could see a stalk, like, even as the sidekick, the two scenes, you're like, this guy's a badass.

Joe Rogan
I was like five years old, six years old. I'm like, look at this. You know, he was supposed to be in that tv show kung fu. Really? Yeah.

Colin Quinn
It was supposed to be about him. Wasn't supposed to be David carried. And why did he say no? They didn't want to have a chinese guy on tv. That's insane.

Joe Rogan
No, David Carrity. Yeah, but it worked. Crazy thing with David, Carrie was. It worked. Yeah, worked.

Colin Quinn
That show worked. I loved that show. I used to love that show. Yeah, it was great show. Because every episode.

Joe Rogan
Every episode there was. Although, let's face it, that was when you really look at it was a kind of a woke show, a little bit. Every week it was intolerance. And then David Garrett would come and save the day. You know what I mean?

Colin Quinn
Kick some ass. He always had to use violence, though. But he wasn't that great of a martial arts guy. It was terrible. It was nonsense.

It was totally unbelievable. But the way he was doing it was like if you didn't know any better, you're like, oh yeah, he's got magic. But if Bruce Lee had done that, he would have broke. Not the Internet, but he would have broke tv wide open. Oh, yeah, that would've been the best show of all time.

Wheel kicking people and like jumping, sidekicking people in the face. He'd be like, whoa. It would change everything. But the movies changed everything. I mean, he broke through just because he was undeniable.

Oh, yeah, we. That was supposed to be him. They opened, I'll tell you, all the karate studios. Jerome Mackey, these are all the karate. These were big karate guys back when I was a kid.

Joe Rogan
Like karate teachers all. He opened thousands of karate studios around the country. Bruce Lee alone. Absolutely. Yeah.

It became a thing. Bruce Lee and then Chuck Norris was how I got into martial arts. Yeah, Chuck Norris fighting him. John Claude Van Dam watching those movies. How about this name?

Bill Wallace, you ever hear of him? Superfoot. Yeah, he was a great kickboxer. And it was a guy named Joe Louis. Yeah, Joe Lewis.

Colin Quinn
Heavyweight champion. Not in boxing, but in kickboxing. That's right. Yeah, white guy. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan
There was a bunch of. Jim Kelly was a great fighter. He was in the Bruce Lee movies too. Did you ever do karate or did you just follow it? I.

I mean, I did a couple of classes, but I was, you know. It'S crazy that you know about all those guys like Joe Lewis. How about Benny Urquidez? You know about him? Benny the jet.

Of course. Yeah. Well, because when I always tell this, but when I was a kid, the trains were so dangerous in New York. Like, I mean, it was. This is nothing now compared to when I was growing up.

But what I would do is instead of taking karate, I used to buy karate magazine and I'd stand on the train with my legs splayed like this and stand and read my karate magazine. Good move. Who's gonna read a karate magazine unless it's a karate. Then I ran into, oh, do you know Owen Smith is a comedian? Yes, from Baltimore.

I somehow mentioned that story one night to him and he goes, he goes, I took you one better. He goes, I bought a karate trophy and I used to walk around the streets holding my karate trophy.

Colin Quinn
That's hilarious. So while you were studying martial arts, seriously, just remember there's a whole bunch of lazy pricks that bought magazines and trophies just so we were, like, stolen valor. You got washed a lot. People find a workaround. There's a lot of dudes walked around with kung fu outfits on.

Joe Rogan
Yeah. Yes. With the slippers. A black kung fu outfit collar. Absolutely.

To this day, they still do. And to this day, I'm still like, I don't know. Yeah. I used to go watch them practice in the park, and they were faking martial arts. It was made up stuff they're doing.

Colin Quinn
Made up? What do you mean? There. The moves are nonsense. It was made up.

And you knew they were paid 100%. Yeah, 100%. They were doing stuff that just. There's no history of this. Like, I don't study kung fu, but I can understand it.

I know it. I know what it looks like. I've watched it. Thousands of videos on it. I've seen classes.

I know. I know what kung fu is. Right. You're not doing kung fu. You're fucking.

You're doing some shit you think looks like kung fu, and you're telling people that you're a master, and you're practicing in the park, and you got a bunch of other dumb people that have followed you, and there's a lot of that out there. Yeah, there was a lot. Before the UFC came around, there was a lot of fake martial arts guys who pretended they had, like, some touch of death. Yes. And their students were, like, hypnotized.

They were, like, in a cult. They would touch their students. Their students would fall to the ground. They're still out there. There's a video.

Joe Rogan
Absolutely. There's an Instagram page. Mcdojolife. McDojo life just highlights all these fake martial artists, because McDojo is, like those strip mall. Yeah.

Colin Quinn
Price. Which. Some of them are really good. Yeah. You know, just let the teacher.

Yeah, but this. This idea of, like, a deathtouch that people had, like, some secret powers dream. Yeah, yeah. I told you I took six judo lessons, little kid. I should say before the martial arts crazy.

Joe Rogan
And I really wish I would have stuck with judo, but. But in those days, like, there was no, like, panic. So what kind of cliffs are the worst headache. Oh, yeah. Of all time.

Colin Quinn
Oh, you're getting brain damage. Yeah. You're getting brain damage. 100. You're getting brain damage in regular judo.

100%. 100%. Judo's bad. You get brain damage. It's amazing.

It's amazing. Martial art. But you get brain damage from Ryan Ajetski. You do? Yeah.

My friend Mark Gordon, he specializes in traumatic brain injuries. He's a doctor, and he works with a lot of veterans, football players, fighters and stuff. He's like, everything that hits your head is bad. Like, soccer guys get CTE, chronic traumatic encephalopathy. The things that boxers get and football players get, and MMA fighters get.

Soccer players get it from hitting it with their head. But how do you get it from a jet ski? The bouncing. Just the bouncing. Then how come they tell you you're supposed to go on those gymnastic.

Joe Rogan
Whatever that's called. They say that's healthy. Trampolines. Yeah, trampoline. Yeah.

Colin Quinn
I don't see jolting. Cause that's kind of like catching you and lifting you up and catching you and lifting you up. That's a different thing than boom, boom, boom. It's the heavy duty shaking head banging. Like Angus from AC DC.

Gotta have brain damage. Yes. There's no way he doesn't. Shaking the brain. There's no way he doesn't.

That dude has to be gone. But who the hell goes on a jet ski more than, like, once a year? Let's think about that. Some jet ski people that really love them. Jet skis are fun.

Yeah. I have a jet ski. I tried it. It's fun. But if you bounce around on waves, you're getting brain damage.

That's how delicate the brain is, man. The brain is not meant to be jostled around. And guys get concussions from getting hit in the chest. If you get hit in the chest, your head snaps back and you get a concussion. It happens all the time.

You don't have to get hit in the head to get a concussion. Well, yeah, yeah, but that's. That's why I. It's a good thing I stopped judo. Cause every day you'd have a horrible headache.

Joe Rogan
I was a little kid, you know? Also, these guys crashed. Oh, my God. Well, that's different. That's ski jumping.

Colin Quinn
I know, but this is what they. The article on skiing was bringing up. Oh, my God. That's insane. That dude hit hard.

How hard they hit? Oh, must be nuts. They're going third. It's like, this is a water skiing tournament. That what that is?

That's what that was? Yeah. It's like an article about water skiers getting cte. Oh, yeah. Have to.

No doubt. No doubt they have it. No doubt. I bet dolphins have Cte. I bet they don't.

I bet they glide right into that. Water everybody always says how smart they are. I'm like, yeah, they seem really intelligent sometimes. You're dismissing the intelligence of dolphins? Yeah.

Joe Rogan
When anybody bounces a beach ball on their nose, and that's there. They're the valedictorian of the animal kingdom. That's enough for me. I think you have to do that if you're trapped in that swimming pool. If you want to get fed, I think you'd put that beach ball in your nose too.

Colin Quinn
That's the problem. The problem is we're so evil, we'll take intelligent things and lock them in a swimming pool if we can't understand their language. Like what? What? I don't know what you're saying.

Do you want a fish? Are not. Here's the ball, motherfucker. That's what it is. Out in the wild, though, they're awesome.

They play with you. They come hang out, they go by your boat, they jump, and they literally want you to see them. They play with people. You can swim with them. They'll save you from sharks.

If sharks come by, they'll fight the sharks off. They save people from sharks all the time. They have a cerebral cortex that's 40% larger than a human being's. What? Yeah, 40%.

They have dialects. They have different dialects. Like, you talk like you're from New York. Yeah, you know, I have like a little bit of Boston, a little bit of California. Like, all fucked up.

If you, they can tell from dolphins listening to their, their vocal patterns, where they're from. Now wait a minute. But they can't decipher it yet, but they're hoping they can. AI, first of all, if you don't have a routine about dolphins accents, you're crazy. I'll steal it if you don't.

Have you had a bit about dolphins, about taking a true story? It's a true story. I got on very high edibles with my daughter and we went fishing and these dolphins came by the boats and they were jumping up in the air. And then I had this crazy thought that what if the concept of me, like we think when you think of yourself as refer to yourself me, you're thinking of yourself living in this world with these genes in this city, in this street. But the thought of me, like, what if me to me is the same as me to a dolphin?

And then I thought, like, what if that's the same with all human beings? Everybody's just experiencing life through different biological circumstances, different life experiences. But what if me is the same in every single human being just dealing with different problems. No. What does that mean?

Joe Rogan
I don't even understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is that when you think of yourself, when you think Colin Quinn, like, when you think, like, oh, I'm looking at the world. This is me. That energy of what me is. This is how high I was.

Colin Quinn
I was on, like, 200 milligrams of pot, edible. On a boat in the middle of the ocean in Hawaii. Just amazing experience. But I was thinking when the dolphins would jump up, they would look at you. They look you in the eye, and you see that they're intelligent.

And I was thinking, like, what if I lived his life, I would be him, and what if he lived my life, he would be me. And what I think of as me is just me stumbling into a bunch of experiences with very particular genetics and very particular, like, life lessons that I'm carrying around. And I think that's me. But if the energy of me, the very core of it, is exactly the same in everybody, we're just experiencing life through different circumstances, but it's the same thing. That's.

Joe Rogan
God. Yeah. What about the. You know, I was thinking about. When I was thinking about the whole martial arts thing, too, was when you think about dolphins fighting sharks or saving people from sharks, that's almost a martial art, too.

Colin Quinn
Oh, yeah? Well, you ever see what killer whales do to sharks? No. There's this video of this mother. Killer whales.

Oh, yeah, they fuck everybody up. There's this video of this, by the way. They save people, too. And the only time they've ever killed people is in swimming pools. They save people all the time.

Killer whales save people that fall in the water. They save them. They eat everything. They kill dolphins. They kill whales.

They kill everybody. But they don't kill people. We. We kill them, but they don't kill us. It's the only time they've ever killed people on record.

I mean, there's probably been a few circumstances where people were cunts. Yeah. Killed whales coming. Some asshole tried to harpoon their sister. You know, I'm sure that happened.

But the point is that, like, killer whales don't actively target people when it'd be really fucking easy to do. So check this. This killer whale fucks this shark up. So she's out there with her. Look at this.

Boom. Wow. She's out there with her cubs, and she just puts the fucking clamp down on this great white. It's pretty wild, but it also makes you realize how big killer sharks are, or killer whales right now. Killer whales.

Joe Rogan
Yeah. Look at that boom. Yeah. I mean, I just saw something the other day that would kill a whale around a boat, some little boat, and it was just. You could tell the guy's like, oh, God, it's over for me.

And then the whale didn't bother him. Like you said, they generally checked him out. Don't fuck with you. And I think you can kind of talk to them. I think if you.

Colin Quinn
I think they understand if you're like, hey, you're cool. Like, you know, if you're polishing up a big metal spear with a rope on the end of it, then they might get a little angry, and they'll probably fuck you up. I bet if there have been people dying, because. Is this the guy? Look at that little boat.

Joe Rogan
Deeper. Oh, he got bumped. Oh, my God. Wow. Whoa.

Yes. Let's get out of here, by the way. But that was a gentle bump. That was nothing. No, this was something else.

But how about that? Is that not the battle cry of today? You guys getting this? Yes, that's it is. That's the most important thing anyone could say.

The gram. We got to get it on the ground. You guys getting this? Do you even have instagram? Yeah.

Colin Quinn
You do? Sure. Do you make reels? Do you ever make positive, hey, guys, you can really do it. Push through it?

Joe Rogan
Well, I kind of. Ironically, as you know, I've been doing that for years. I'm kind of a soccer mom on social media just to infuriate people. That's my whole game.

But I do. You know, I've been doing this series called Block by Block on YouTube, which is with this guy, a homeless pimp. You know him, Mike Lavinia. But we didn't know you were doing this. Yeah, no, I have a bunch of episodes where I interviewed.

It's my little, you know, like, the thing I care the most about, about doing it, which is I interview people from different neighborhoods that in New York that I know over the years and then just get them to tell stories about their neighbor. So I was talking to my friend from Hell's Kitchen, Mike Spillane. This is it. I didn't even know this was out there. Yeah, yeah.

Colin Quinn
And it's my Steve Kelly problem with really great comics. And I include you in there. You guys are terrible at promoting things. Yeah, I know what I'm saying. Yeah.

But it's also why the stuff you put out is so great, because you're only thinking about the stuff. You're not thinking about promoting the stuff, which is a totally different animal, and. We wouldn't know where we would only come here. Where else would we go? We don't know.

Well, doing it yourself, like, doing your own promotion or, like, letting people, you know, getting. But I just. So I interviewed this one guy, Mike Spillane, from Hell's Kitchen, and they're famous family. He's telling all the stories of the old. But one of the stories, which you will like was him and my friend Robert, who died, and his cousin.

Joe Rogan
They were in a bar. It's like 1980s and Midtown. So Hell's kiss is connected to the theater and all the Madison Square going. Cinnabar. Some guy starts with Mike's belaying.

He hits him. The guy's friend grabs around his neck. It's Andre the giant. Oh, my God. They're in a fight with Andre.

Colin Quinn
Oh, my God. And he picks them up and flings them. And it's like a whole famous story of them fighting, getting their ass kicked by Andre the giant. Oh, my God. And then the cops come and grab them outside and arrest him.

Joe Rogan
And the cop walks in, finds out what happened, sees Andre, and just walks out and laughs and goes, let him go. Don't worry about it. So, like, just finding different stories of different neighborhoods, that's my little thing for. You know, before Instagram, where people weren't snitches. That.

Exactly right. So that's all. I'm just talking to these people and finding out all the great stories that happened today. Andre would be all over the news. People be angry at him.

Oh, my God. Everybody have an opinion on all. Yeah. And when this guy was telling the story, I go, so people must have been buying you drinks for months. He goes at Hell's Kitchen that time, two weeks.

And then there was some new story happening, because that wasn't even the story of the month. What a great name for a neighborhood. Hell's Kitchen. Yeah. What a great name.

Oh, yeah. I mean, you kind of have to. Have to act crazy if you did. Yeah. They date.

Colin Quinn
If you're gonna move to hell's Kitchen. That's a very specific mindset. Well, now, of course, it's different, but it was the most. Just imagine a neighborhood in the middle of Times Square when Times Square was taxi driver. So they had to deal with all of that, the theaters, so that all the stagehands were there, all the Teamsters were there.

Joe Rogan
That was a combination of everything. All the music studio linkage center on one side, all these. And in the middle is all these crazy irish guys in Puerto Ricans. Yeah. Just so.

Colin Quinn
And so much music and so much stuff. Came out of that area. It's crazy. It really is. When you really think it's a really wild.

Joe Rogan
Wild. The center of the universe, they used to call it. And for how long? Like 20 years. Like 50, 60, 50.

Really? It was that hot for that many years? Well, hot in what way? I mean, like, the interesting aspect of. The interesting aspect, I bet, was 40 to 50 years.

I would say from 1950 to 2000. 2000. What killed it? Giuliani? No, it just became.

Well, it became Times Square. You talk about Times Square. Times Square became gentrified. Giuliani. Yeah, gentrified it.

And people started to. Corporatize is a better word, right? Yeah, it's like it became Applebee's, but it did. It's disappointing, but at the same time, it was Sodom and Gomorrah. It was very bad.

Colin Quinn
It was very bad. When I first went there, when I was living in Boston, I came to New York for a karate tournament, ironically, in like 82, 83, I think. So. I was in high school, so probably 83. And I was like, this is nuts.

Like, this place is fucking nuts. It was nuts. It was nuts. It was like all peep shows and pimps and hookers. Yes.

And just. It looked black and white. Even though it's like, in color. Everything looked black and white. It looked dirty and seedy and there was just junkies on the street and people with, like, long coats and people yelling at people, yo, this place is nuts.

Times Square was a place that everybody avoided. That's right. Somehow or another, Times Square became a tourist trap. Well, because of Giuliani. Giuliani cleaned up the peep show.

Joe Rogan
There was a law, I guess, where you couldn't have. You had to have like 30% legitimate in your peep show. There was some law that happened where. They got 30% legitimate. What does that mean, 30%?

Like a regular store. Like, you couldn't just have all porn, some obscure laws. I don't know what it was. Sells Joey DeRosa sandwiches. But that's basically what they did do.

They had to have a legitimate thing and then to porn in the back or something. Oh, God. And that was in the mid nineties. And it got cleaned. Well, they used to have the triple x movie theaters.

That's right. Where, you know, you want to talk about the lowest class of human being that you could possibly encounter in public. Guys going to jerk off in a room with other guys, jerking off watching a movie. Yeah, of course. Just the most degenerate humans available.

Colin Quinn
And it was in Times Square, too. It was all over the place. No, no, the whole country had those. Oh, yeah. Every city had Times Square, just had.

50 of them were the craziest. Everybody else had one. Is the crazy story is deep throat, because deep throat, they were trying to turn it into. So the country was so naive back then. Yep.

And porn, you didn't have VCR's, so you didn't. The idea of a porn addiction seemed ridiculous to people. So what they did with Deep Throat is they made a cinematic movie that was a porn film. And all these stars went to go see it. Like, Johnny Carson was there in line, they were interviewing them where they're going to see a porn film.

Joe Rogan
Yeah, yeah. And that's only like 1970 something, 72. Or something like that. And couples would go all over the country and go to these sleazy theaters and watch Deep Throat. Wild is that.

Colin Quinn
They weren't even sleazy theaters. These were regular theaters that showed deep throat. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? People are so it's.

That's like, that's so interesting. Like, you think about how much porn, like, right now, porn is. What percentage of the Internet, Jamie, is it 30 something percent? Yeah, it's like 30 something percent of all Internet traffic. All of it.

All of the world is porn. That's crazy. It didn't even exist before Deep Throat. No. Like, you had stag films that you would hear about.

Yeah. My brother in law, he was getting married. What does the stag party. And they showed a movie, grainy movie. There's like sad heroin addict fucking these guys, right?

Yeah, they were gross. Yeah. I never thought that would be on your phone. The Mafia. Yeah, I know, exactly.

Joe Rogan
But. But it's so funny because I remember Deep Throat was the big breakthrough. First was the devil and Miss Jones. I was like eleven to twelve and I remember we laughed out. We didn't know what we were laughing at.

And then next thing you know, we're like, 19 1819, we're going up, times squared, pulling. And, you know, we were right there. You just take the train. You're right there. And.

But it was so psychotic that, and I actually knew, I knew a girl that ended up going into like, working in those Times square booths, and I'm sure a lot of people did, but it was really crazy to me that she was doing that, you know? Wow, that is crazy. That's a commitment. Yeah. I mean, there's boots and guys.

Colin Quinn
That lifestyle. Oof. A judge in New York made it. A $3 million fine for showing deep throat. Wow.

It's never been overturned, apparently. Wow. Whenever this article was written well, this is 93, but wow. Movies and television have completely changed our outlook on the human form. So he was 71 at the time when he was talking about this.

And so this is on the eve of his retirement in 91. So he's probably in his fifties when that happened. So he had grown his whole life, been a grown adult and never had any interaction with porn. And then he sees people going to see it in a theater. He's probably like, what the fuck is going on?

Yeah, like, this is crazy. Like, you guys are watching people suck dicks with your friends. Yeah. Like, this is weird. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan
It was totally legitimate for a couple of years. I don't know when it turned, but I remember when I went to, when I went to college, they showed deep throat or one of these Debbie dubs, Dallas, one of these porn movies in like, the student union. What? And guys and girls all went to see it. No way.

Yeah, it was totally. You know what I mean? And there were a couple of crazy. And there were a couple of girls that like, this is anti women. And we're like, oh, relax.

What are you making a big deal? Like, we act like, oh, crazy. Isn't that crazy? It's crazy. And people would just go, they, like, they showed it like a whole week.

I'll tell you another one. What, a week? Yeah, like every night. Cause so many people want to go see. I'll tell you another one.

One of the guest speakers, talk about college gigs. Harry Reams was one of the guest speakers. The porn star. Porn star. Famous, like 1980s porn star.

Seventies. Yeah, seventies. He had the big mustache. The seventies mustache. Did he grow on to be like a giant real estate guy?

Maybe, but real estate, I'd like to talk to him someday because this girl I knew, I still remember her name, but I'll leave it out. And she drove him, she goes, yeah, I drove him back to the train station and I was like, you don't need to drive him to the train station. You can walk there. She drove. And I want to know what happened.

I want the full story. She's not gonna give it to you. She lied to me. She goes, nothing happened. She.

Colin Quinn
She got turned on seeing that guy's dick. She got turned on by. And as I'd like to speak also. It didn't, it wasn't like forbidden back then. This is so hard for people to imagine.

Cuz like today, if you're watching porn on your phone and someone catches you, you have deep shame. Yes. Oh, you call me watching porn, right? Porn is a thing that people are ashamed that they consume. But back then, that was not the case.

It was innocent in the weirdest sense, where people just didn't get it. They didn't get it. No. Like when I was a kid, VCR's were invented. And one of the first things when they invented VCR's is they start making dirty movies and putting them on VCR's and the porn industry just explodes.

Joe Rogan
That's right. It's all from people watching at home. And you'd have to go through these fucking saloon doors, remember, or you'd push the beads aside. Yeah. There was always something you had to do.

Yes. You couldn't just go to the porn section. You had to let everybody know, hey, you fucking pervert, make some noise. Rattle those beads. That's right.

Colin Quinn
And then you walk in there and no one was looking at anybody. Everybody's like, that's right. Everyone's embarrassed that they're in there with other people. Maybe your neighbors. That's right.

See Bob's over there looking at the fucking hardcore section. Yeah. Right. That's what it was. People were like, I'll be in the porn.

Joe Rogan
But that section is for perverts. That was the thing. Yeah. And it became a thing where people weren't embarrassed by it. It was weird.

Colin Quinn
And then slowly, over time, it became embarrassing. I think when it became an addiction thing, I think clearly when the Internet came around and people had instantaneous access to it. Well, it's funny because as more. As much as sex became more like. Like I remember in comedy, we all had bits on jerking off to porn.

Joe Rogan
When I. In the eighties, right? We all had bits. Yeah. Which is hard to imagine.

Nobody gave a damn. I mean, is that weird? We all just talked about, hey, you ever see porn? Because it was new, like you said, and then suddenly people stopped talking about that because it was shameful. I don't know what the.

I guess it was when it was the addiction. Yeah. When you're. When you're ashamed of something, you shouldn't be doing that. Something almost always once you have to lie about the thing, you know?

Colin Quinn
Like, I had a friend and he was always trying to lose weight. And one time we said, hey, meet us at this bar. It's Ralphie May. I'll just say it. Cause he's not with us anymore.

I love Ralphie. Great guy. He was awesome. Great guy. And Ralphie was like.

It was like an hour and a half later, like, where the fuck is Ralphie? Like, he hasn't. When's he coming here. And then finally he pulls up, and the back of his car was just filled with fast food stuff. Yeah, yeah.

And he had, like, some story about why he couldn't make it. He went to a drive through. He had to. He went through a drive through and he bought bags of food and he just stuffed himself. Yeah.

And he probably felt shitty about it and didn't want to talk about it. Sure. That's addiction. That's addiction. Absolutely.

If you're watching porn on your phone all the time, people are like, do you watch porn on your phone? Like, no, I don't watch that. It's because you're addicted. Right. You're ashamed.

Sure, you're ashamed. But like you said, 30% is crazy. Crazy. Is it. Is that what the number is?

Do we find out what the amount of 30%? I'm looking to, like, the golden age of porn ended in 84. It says the golden age. That's what. That's what this.

Joe Rogan
I don't tell you why AIDS. Well, this VCR is also so it stopped being. You didn't have to go to the movie theater to see it. You could watch that home. Well, that was a great.

That was a 84 is in the VCR came out. Wow. Around then. That's. Yeah, so that makes sense because that was.

Colin Quinn
I was in high school, but you. There was a great scene in boogie nights when Burt Reynolds is so disgusted that he has to do, like, amateur porn member. Like, he's used to be a filmmaker. Oh, right. And then suddenly they're in the limo, and he's going, okay, do that.

Joe Rogan
And then they remember he was, like, so horrified by it all. I forgot. I forgot that movie. That was a great movie. Great movie.

And they said, burt Reynolds, you know, the director and all these people said, burt Reynolds was so horrible. He was so brilliant in it, he didn't want to be in it. From day one. He hated everything about it, really. And to his dying day, he hated.

He won. He fired his agent. He hated it. And he was so brilliant in it. Well, Burt Reynolds.

Colin Quinn
I'm a huge Burt Reynolds fan. No, the greatest. I love that guy. He was so fun. He made me believe that, like, a handsome man could be funny.

Joe Rogan
Yeah. I never thought handsome people were funny. Like, the handsome guy was never cool. The handsome guy was, like, cool, but silent. Like, wins a street fight.

Colin Quinn
Rob Reynolds is, like, always smiling. It's like, I want to hang out with that guy. He was a party. He'd go on the Tonight show with that big laugh. Remember he had that giant laugh he.

Was the first guy that I ever really saw that was, like, a really handsome man. That was hilarious. And he was best friends with Dom DeLuise. And they'd be on incredible. How about when he did Jackie Gleason?

Jackie Gleason in him with Smokey and the bandit. What a combination. Jackie Gleeson and Burt Reynolds. Wait, Jackie Gleason in that movie? And I'll tell you who else.

Joe Rogan
Cause I remember when I saw Caddyshack for the first time, and I was like a young kid, and I'm like, oh, Caddyshack. My heroes are in it. Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, all these cool guys. Even Rodney and I go, and then they got this guy from a sitcom, Ted Knight, and then he steals the movie. And the same thing happened with Jackie Gleason.

Spoke at the band. These guys stole. They were so good, it's unbelievable. Gleason was the fucking man. Yeah.

Colin Quinn
Jackie Lisa was the man. It was. He did serious acting too. He's in the hustler. Oh, yeah, he was amazing.

He was great in the hustler. Did you ever hear. They said some reviewers, some famous, back when reviewers were famous, goes, I just. It was Lawrence Olivier and him did a movie together. He goes, I just watched a movie with the greatest living actor and Lawrence Olivier.

Joe Rogan
Jackie Gleason, so good. He was awesome. Best pool player to ever be a movie star by far. Yeah. He was like a real good pool player.

Colin Quinn
Like a professional level pool player. Yeah, yeah. You could see even though he played. Yeah, in the hustler, he was. He was making his own shots.

When Paul Newman make his shots, he'd be like, this is not real. This is nonsense. But when Jackie Gleason did, there's a fluidity to the way it moves around. But now, why would you remake the hustler? Look, we all love monsters.

Joe Rogan
Money, color. Money was a separate book. Well, it was a sequel, but even. So, it's the same. It was the same author.

It left a bad taste in my mouth. Really? Yeah. That was a great movie too. It's a great movie, too.

Colin Quinn
Very accurate, too. He did the. Remember, he did the flipping the pool cue. Mm hmm. That's a little nonsense.

People don't do that. But especially not with the ballot bushka. But what he was doing in the movie, like, portraying how people hustle and move around, that was all real. And it's by the same guy who also wrote the queen's gambit. Do you ever see that show on.

Amazing show. Amazing show about that girl who's a wizard, chess player. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the same guy.

Walter Tevis, right? Yeah. You wrote the hustler, how, like, compelling is her face and her energy. Oh, yeah. You buy it all in whatever.

Joe Rogan
You just buy it. Yeah, you buy all of it. Yeah. You're really there with her. She was awesome.

Colin Quinn
She's really good. Yeah. What is her name? Anna Joy. What is her name?

Joe Rogan
I'll never know. But the holes. Anna Taylor Joy. I like the fact that at least he bothered. That's one thing about Tom Cruise, he doesn't play games.

He's in the color of money. He learns to do, like, nunchucks. By the way, nunchucks were big when I was a kid. Nutrients just came out. Oh, yeah.

When I was a kid, and people have nunchucks, everybody walking around with black eye because nobody know how to use them. You just saw it in the movie. There was no YouTube tutorials. And even this teachers, the martial arts teachers, didn't know what they were. Yeah.

So the guys walk around, everybody had a black eye for, like, a long time. Yeah. I banged myself in the back of the head multiple times. You did? In the back of my head.

Now, when you did this karate tournament in the eighties in New York, are you guys striking each other? Yeah. Wow. And it's full contact, like Nicole contact? Yeah.

Colin Quinn
Well, the karate tournament that I went to in New York was called a point tournament. Point tournaments were different than taekwondo tournaments in that there wasn't continuous action. You'd hit the person and then they would stop and call a point. So it's almost like this really high level game of tag, which wasn't really the thing that I did. I did taekwondo tournaments primarily, which were like continuous action, and you would win by knockout a lot of times.

And so you're basically just trying to kick this other dude in the face or in the chest as hard as possible and stop his body from working. Right. That was my objective. It was like the kumite. It was like that a little bit.

But in taekwondo tournaments, you couldn't punch to the face. You could only kick to the face and kick to the body. And then I would transition from that into kickboxing. But it was like when I went to New York City, we were trying to do anything. We would try anything.

There wasn't that many tournaments. So if there was no taekwondo tournaments, we would enter into karate tournaments. I fought, like, probably. I probably fought 100 times. Wow.

Yeah. And was there. Imagine if I counted all the tournaments. Cause oftentimes you'd fight three or four times in a day. No kidding?

Yeah. In my. My last kickboxing fight was the third fight of the day. I had three fights in one day. I won the first two fights, and I lost the last one.

Joe Rogan
Wow. In a day. That's crazy. Imagine. Yeah.

It's good to be a kid, huh? It was good to be stupid. If I had a kid today, I'd say, hey, you're not fighting again. You just get hit in the head. Over and you come up and bruises all the time and stuff.

Colin Quinn
No. Yeah. Well, I always came home from training and bruises. Yeah. And from fighting.

Yeah. You get fucked up. Yeah. You get black. I always had black eyes.

I broke my nose. I don't know. I probably 20 times. I had to get it fixed. I had to get the inside of it all cleaned up and it all calcified like a wrestler's ear.

Joe Rogan
Wow. You know, wrestlers get calcium. Yeah. Of course. You get smashed in the nose enough.

Colin Quinn
What happens is the inside of your nose, all that tissue swells up and bleeds, and then it gets broken and your septum gets twisted and blocks off, and then you get, like, calcium deposits inside your nose, just like you get. In your ears, like a cave. Like a little, like, relax type. Yeah. Well, it was horrible.

I couldn't breathe at all. I had a very nasal voice for a long time until I got it fixed. And I was, like, 40 when I got it fixed. Wow. Because I kept breaking it.

Because I was like, I'm just gonna keep breaking it. It's like, what am I gonna do? Like, I broke it, like, three times when I was on news radio. You did? Yeah, I was breaking it.

Besparring or just rolling. You accidentally get a knee to your face, and then your nose is bleeding. You're like, well, I broke it again. We working out with, like, Benny the jet and those guys in the valley. I actually started at the jet center when I first moved to Hollywood.

That was the first place I went to. That's great. It was like, there's two places I wanted to go to when I went to Hollywood. I wanted to go to the comedy store, and I wanted to go to the jet center and Van Nuys. I found out about it.

I was like, it's the jet center. And when I was there, blinky Rodriguez, who was Benny's brother in law, amazing fighter, too, like a great, great kickboxer. He had lost, I believe, a family member to gang violence. I don't want to say exactly who it was because I'm not sure if I remember, but I want to say a son to gang violence. And then if it's not that, I apologize.

And then. So he offered free classes to gang members. So he wanted to teach these gang members, like, discipline, give them a sense of, like, community, and then give them structure, give them something they could. So I was taking kickboxing classes with gang bangers. So I'd moved from New York and I came to LA.

I didn't have any friends. And here I am in my volkswagen corrado pulling up to the jet setter and Van Nuys, and I'm taking kickboxing classes with gangbangers. Like, this guy had this fucking tattoo on his back, this homemade tattoo of the name of his gang. It was like, platos. And then underneath it, it said, fuck the rest.

I was like, oh, boy. You understand this is 1994. This dude's back has his gang and then fucked the rest. I was like, yo, what am I doing? So I had a spar with these guys, so sparring with these gang bangers, and you could, like, they didn't know what they were doing, like, a lot of them, right, but you couldn't.

I wouldn't hurt them. I'm like, I'm not gonna hurt this guy. You know, I'm just gonna, like, touch him a little bit and I'm just gonna, like, just give him a friend. Put a foot in his face. I'm not gonna hurt him.

Joe Rogan
No. I do not want to get shot in the parking lot. I do not want to get stabbed. You cannot humiliate one of these guys. So you just move around, be defensive with eight swing punches.

Colin Quinn
Just work on blocks, work on moving footwork. Touch them a little bit, but there's no, like, going after him. That's great. It was scary. It was fucking scary.

These guys were murderers. Yeah. Van Nuys was a rough area in the nineties. Super rough. It was super rough.

And. But a lot of great kickboxers were there too. It was also like, Pete Sugarfoot Cunningham was there and, you know, Blinky was there teaching classes, which is, to me, it was like, as a kid who grew up watching him on tv to be in their gym, I was like, holy shit, this is crazy. But then unfortunately, the earthquake fucked up the roof. And when it rained, when the rainy season came, the whole building got destroyed.

The roof was all fucked up. Oh, you were there for the earthquake? I was there right after the earthquake. And then the rain came after that, and their building was fucked. So eventually opened up a place in north Hollywood.

And I went there for a while, but it was just Benny. And it was a smaller place I went to. I was in LA during the earthquake, during that 94 earthquake, and I was staying in this, like, temporary housing place on. It was across from Northridge, but it was in, like, in Westwood district. And I wake up and I go, oh, my God.

Joe Rogan
I'm dreaming that my bed is flying across this entire room. Oh, my God. My bed flew across the room. And it was. It was scary, man.

Colin Quinn
Oh, my God. I mean, my bed was fun, but buildings were collapsed all around me. People were in the street at 05:00 a.m. In their underwear. The whole city.

Oh, my God, the whole neighborhood. I mean, I was only in a small earthquake. I was in a 5.5, and I was in my apartment in North Hollywood. And it was like I was in a washing machine box or refrigerator box where it just had no stability. I was like, what?

I thought an earthquake would be like, everything's shaking. Everything moved. Everything moved. It just moved side to side. And I remember thinking, oh, shit.

Joe Rogan
It's like having vertigo. But it was. It was. I was just thinking, this is a baby one. This is like a five.

Yeah. So a seven is how many times greater than this? Holy shit. Yeah, it fucked up. Northridge and Van Nuys got fucked.

That was more than any place. Another reason why I was glad I got out of LA in time. I'm like, it's coming. Well, if you guys think you got it bad now, all the shit in the streets and all the tents, and wait till an earthquake hits that mess. Well, about two weeks ago, I was in New York and I go, oh, what the hell was that?

Oh, yeah. And it was an earthquake. Yeah, earthquake. It was crazy. That's so unusual.

Yeah, I never even heard. I never even heard about it. So this earthquake in Van Nuys, I guess it fucked up the roof of that building and it condemned a lot of buildings. It destroyed a lot. It destroyed that whole area.

Northridge is right next to Van Nuys. Yeah, they just. It just. The place flooded. There's a photo of me, Jamie.

Colin Quinn
There's a photo of me. Like, a black and white photo of me. A law from a long time ago, throwing punches. And it was taken at the jet. Center, the original jet center.

Yeah, it was like, 1994. There's, like, this photo of me. I look ripped. I was young and healthy back then, right? Yeah, back in the old days.

Had most of my hair. Yeah, it's crazy, right? Yeah, that's it. Whoa. That's me.

Jet center in 1994. You like Sean Connery? I don't know what's going on my lips, but I was in the middle of throwing punches. Used to go there all the time, huh? Yeah, yeah.

And they had a photographer there one day. And did you, when did you pass? At the comedy store, 94. You did be passed right away? No, like six months.

Joe Rogan
Mitzi. Yeah, Mitzi gave me six months. She didn't like that I was already on a tv show. Oh, you already on the show? Yeah, I was already on news radio.

She didn't like, oh, that's why you went out to LA? Yeah, I went out to LA just for news radio. I never, I had no interest in acting, right. I was purely being a prostitute. I was just willing to go on.

But what a great first thing to be on. Yeah. All I cared about was stand up. I just wanted to stand up, right? And then I was like, okay, maybe this is my career now, okay, maybe I'm acting now, you know?

Colin Quinn
And then I'm all sudden I'm doing this stuff. And I was like, this is weird. I had no acting classes before I was on tv. No, nothing I took. When I got a development deal with Disney, they made me get an acting coach.

So I did a couple of one on ones with this lady and I didn't like it. There was a lot of, like, weird ego stuff going on. And she also wanted to be my mom in the show. There was a lot of weird stuff. Oh, yeah, of course.

But it's just like that world was not. I was not interested in that world. And I was like, this is not. I just, okay, I'm just gonna do my best. I'm just gonna do it the way I would do it was just pretend.

Pretend this is actually happening. Pretend I'm this dumb guy. Pretend this is actually happening. But I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't know where upstage was.

I was on television. They're like, Joe, could you move like 6ft, six inches upstage? Like, which way is that? Like, which way is upstage? Like, it's flat.

I didn't know that old stages used to be slanted and upstage meant you move backwards, which is kind of crazy. Instead of saying, would you step back? Move upstage. Like, everybody's using these old timey terms for a slanted stage so that the whole audience who's seated there could see everything because they did it in front of a live crowd. But that must have been fun doing in front of a live crowd.

It was fun. It was fun when you got good lines, but you didn't really get to control. Like, the first show that I did was terrible. It was called hardball. That's what I came out to LA for.

I think I remember it was a baseball show. So that got canceled, and then I got lucky that I had a development deal with NBC right after that, and I was gonna do my own show, but they said, hey, we got a part on this show that we're already gonna do, and we're gonna recast it. And so it was originally Ray Romano. I know. Yeah.

So Ray got fired. Yes. And then they replaced it with a guy, and that guy got fired, and. They replaced it with a guy, which. Made me feel better, because at least I didn't take the job from Ray.

I took a job from some guy. Even if you did, Ray obviously stunk, and he just got what he deserved. Well, it was the best thing that happened to him, because then, you know. But I love Ray, and so it was weird. It was weird, but it was okay because the other guy got the job first, and then all of a sudden, I'm on this fucking show with Phil Hartman and Andy Dick and.

And Dave Foley. I'm like, this is crazy. Like, I've been acting for all of, like, four months ever. You know, I did one terrible tv show. Yeah.

You know, two acting classes. Here you are. And how long were you doing stand up at that time? Six years. So it was good in the game.

I was in the game, but I wasn't that good yet. I was like you said, you work with Phil Hartman's one of the legends of all time. He was a sweetheart, too. What a great guy. He was a great guy.

Like, a genuinely interesting, weird guy. Like, I don't know anybody like him. I mean, he did the. For my joy, he did the Crosby, stills Nash album art. We have one of his albums.

We have one of his albums out here. Isn't it crazy? Yeah. Oh, he's a brilliant artist. He was also a pilot when I bought my house in the valley, he took me to these areas with his plane, took me over to show me, like, areas where you could move to.

He was living in Encino, and I think I was still in Encino at the time, too, and I was like, I had had a stalker. And so I really, like, I gotta get a little further out. You know, this. Like, this is too. Just people knowing where you live things is too weird.

I gotta go to a place that's more secure. And so then when I moved out to the valley, Phil took me out there on his plane to show me areas. When you're flying over these places, you see all these trees and the hills and the mountains. I was like, oh, this is beautiful. I'm gonna live here and just drive in.

That's way better. It's great. Yeah. And you guys went Burbank. We did it in a bunch of different places.

We did it. CV's Radford for a while. Sunset gower. We did it for the most. I love it there.

Yeah, Bradford's great. Great lot. Jerry's deli and everything's right. Nearby's gone. It is.

I think it is. All of them are gone, huh? I think it is. I know the one in the valley, in Woodland Hills is gone. That was a bummer, man.

Joe Rogan
That was fun. Oh, that place was so in the nineties. I was just talking about LA in the nineties, how you could drive around to Jeff and there was. Traffic was nothing. Now it's.

You can't move. Yeah, it's overpopulation. Cities makes it way more tense. Yeah. Like, people are way more tense now than they were in the nineties.

Yes. It was like a way more relaxed city. That's hard to believe because everybody in their head is like, la is like, beep, beep. Fuck you. Everybody's doing coke and on their way to a business meeting, right.

Colin Quinn
Back then it was like, you could get to work in a half an hour. It wasn't that big. Yeah. Now it's a fucking. If you.

Where. I used to live in the valley, if I wanted to go to the comedy store, comedy store is 22 miles from my house. It would take me 22 ish, I'm guessing, but it would take me hour, ten minutes. Hour and ten minutes. At, you know, at 07:00.

Now if I try to leave at five, it's 2 hours. I need 2 hours. If I have a meeting in Hollywood at five, I have to leave my house by three or I'm fucked. That's crazy. It's ridiculous.

That's 2 hours to go 22 miles, and that's normal. And that ain't even long island. How about people making it into the city in the daytime? You ever get stuck in that mess? People coming from the island and going across the fucking bridge?

Oh, Jesus Christ. It's crazy. You just want to jump off the bridge. Yeah. And guys do it every day just so they can have a lawn.

Joe Rogan
Every day? Every day. Just like they have a lawn. Yeah. Just exhausted.

Well, it's also taxes. Taxes. But also. You want a backyard. I want a backyard.

Colin Quinn
And when Saturday comes along, I want to sit with a cup of coffee, fucking porch and see a deer, maybe that's right. You know, let me fucking relax a little bit. Do I really have to be a part of that fucking concrete horseshit? Yeah. Because there's something about living in the concrete horseshit that some people love.

Joe Rogan
I love it. They love it. I love it. Yeah, you love the energy, right? I don't.

Colin Quinn
Around you, everything's happening. I liked it. Yeah. I'm just so used to it. It's my whole.

Joe Rogan
Yeah, I mean, but I liked LA when I lived in LA. I loved La, but I lived all over La. But, you know, and I like driving, but that's the thing. In LA, you just have to be in love with your car. If you love your car, you love LA.

You don't love your car, you don't love. That's a good point. That's a good point. And in LA, the problem that if you. You're fucking around with like a Tesla with 30% power.

Yeah. You got 30% battery left and it's 03:00 p.m., like, oh, buddy, you might be fucked. You might be, like, really fucked. Like, you might be. Your car might die on this road.

Colin Quinn
Oh, you're fucked. Yeah, you're fucked. You got to drive 2 hours. You gotta drive to San Diego. What?

Joe Rogan
Yeah. You can't drive San Diego. No, it's gonna be 5 hours. They say all the people that commute to LA now, like, they caught, they don't just carpool, they apartment pool. So they don't go home.

They go to work Monday, they stay till Friday, then they go home. That is so insane. That's so insane. They have to rent an apartment together. I have to stop saying nice things about Austin.

Stop saying nice things about it. Yeah. There's too many construction cranes. Oh, I know. It's great the other day, but there's so many companies moved here.

Yes. There's so much shit going on here, so I don't want this to become like that. Yeah. I think there's something about Texas, though, that rebels, that will always rebel, and they realize how bad people fucked up in California, and hopefully the people that moved here realize how bad they've always been. Yeah, they've always been.

They've always had 1ft out of the country. Texas, let's face it, they came in. Came in real late. Reluctantly. Yeah.

And they've been here reluctantly. They got 1ft out. They're like, we don't need, we will leave.

Colin Quinn
Well, when you know about the history of this country, this, this land, right? This area. I mean, this is a brutal, brutal place. Yeah, like, you ever read the empire of the summer moon? No.

Oh, my God. I get it to you. You got to read it. It's incredible. It's a history of this place is the Comanche Indians and the history of the Texas ranges.

Joe Rogan
Yeah, I like that. The. The madness. Yeah. I mean, I clearly.

Colin Quinn
What the colonizers did, what the people moved here, what they did was horrible. No one has ever denied that. But if you don't know what the Comanches were doing to other Indians, if you don't know. My God. Raiding parties, what do.

Of course, they did some of the wildest shit. They would start a bonfire, and right before they threw the guy on the bonfire, they would hold him out by his arms and legs, hack off his arms and his legs while he's still alive, and throw him on the fire to watch him squirm like a worm. Unbelievable. They would feed people, their friends. They would cut people to pieces in front of you.

They to. No one surrendered ever. You always fought to the death, because if you were captured, you are 100% going to get tortured and killed. Tortured and killed for. No, just because that's what they are for.

Fun. There was no prisoners of war. There was no honor. There was none of this european bullshit. They were doing it old school.

Old school. And that was the entire country except for the agriculture. There's a lot of people that accepted agriculture in the southeast, and they were, like, calmer and not war bearing. They weren't even riding horses. The Comanches were the horse bearing ones.

They were the best with horses, and they were the most fierce, and they only ate meat so they could go for days without food, unlike, like, some of the settlers, some of the people that were trying to make it across, and some of the people that they fought. What about. Yeah, I've been reading this book, speaking of cruelty. Jerusalem. So the history of Jerusalem.

Joe Rogan
So the early sieges and the same torture techniques. But you know who gave it to me? This guy, you know. Kevin Fitzgerald. Yes.

Comedian. But he's a bodyguard for the Rolling Stones. Yeah, I just worked with him last week, and he was just, you know, he was telling me the stone stories. He was bodyguard for 20 years for the stones. He tells the greatest because he's very intelligent guy.

But he was a boxer, then became a bodyguard for the stones and then moved on and started doing stand up. And he's also got, like, doctorates in veterinary medicine. But he started telling me, do you ever hear this one about Mick Jagger, about the people in wheelchairs, because, you know, you just feel like, oh, keep is a cool guy. Mick was a good Mick Jagger every day, every show for 20 years would take this guy Kevin, put on a hoodie so nobody could recognize him, go up. Because in those days, they put the wheelchairs in it.

If you were in a wheelchair, they wouldn't let you be with your friends. They'd put you in a separate wheelchair section in the balcony. Everybody in the wheelchair to go. Mick Jagger would go up with eight tracks, t shirts, hand them out. Never told the press, never made sure nobody knew about it except this bodyguard.

And talk to all the people in wheelchairs and give them t shirts and give matrix for 20 years. Wow, that cool. That's wild. But this guy tells a million stories, you know, he's bodyguard for 20 years. Wow, he's got great stories.

Colin Quinn
That's cool. How do we get to him? We were just talking about Jerusalem cheese and so torture techniques. So this book on Jerusalem, like, what I've thought about, what is the name of it? Jerusalem a history or something?

I've thought about reading about it and I get anxiety. I'm like, just not. Not that particular book, but about Israel, Palestine. But this book goes back to the beginning. Yeah, this book is really, I mean, I just saw.

Joe Rogan
I've only read like the first couple of. It's amazing. Is it this book? That's the one. It's crazy.

And every place, it's wild. And it starts out, you're like, oh, my God. It started on the most bloody. But somehow everybody knew it was significant even then. Like, it was never this place that people weren't like.

They were always like, no, this is the place. What do you think about that? Do you think? Does that make any sense? What is there?

Colin Quinn
Is there a place that's more holy than other places? You mean like Sedona? Yeah, Sedona's a good one. That's a good one. For hippies.

For hippies believe Sedona is like a sacred place. Yeah, well, I always feel like they're saying, well, even when I was just at the gig, I was at the gig with Kevin Fitzgerald. It was in where the shining is in Colorado, where they shot the shining, that hotel. Yeah. And so they go, it's haunted.

Joe Rogan
And I'm talking to the kid that works there and he goes, listen. He goes, I didn't believe any of this shit. He goes, I've worked here for two years. It's real. He goes, Lucy, they knew the names of the ghost.

Lucy. She's a redhead. He goes, I open the mirror when I'm here alone at 01:00 in the morning because it's kind of a really out of the way place. You know? He goes this, these.

He starts describing all these things that happened. You're like, oh, God. So I do believe this place is. Sure. Yeah.

Colin Quinn
I think there's. There's something to some of it. There has to be. Yeah. What is energy?

Joe Rogan
What does that mean? Why are they willing to kill each other over one place? Because they think God's coming to this one place. Like, what do they know? Yeah.

Colin Quinn
It's so. It's so important to them. Like, how about. You're gonna love this book. This is exactly the point.

How about Mecca? How many Muslims travel to Mecca? Yeah. And you're absolved of your sins. Yeah.

You go to Mecca, you make the pilgrimage, and they all go around, and they're. They're essentially walking around a meteor. Yeah. It's a meteorite. Right?

Joe Rogan
Is it? Yeah, I think that's the center. Isn't that what it's the center of that box in Mecca? I think that's what it is. Look at that.

Colin Quinn
I mean, when you also look. How beautiful is that? If you go there, you probably really believe. Even. I mean, it probably.

Even if it wasn't true, would have that effect on you. Just psychologically going to this incredible. With all these people. With all these people. And everybody's peaceful and nobody's talking about Medina.

Nobody's talking about anything. Mecca and Medina. And they always talk about Becca. It's like Springsteen and John Cucumber. That's the other one.

The other one. So does it say there's a stone there, but isn't there google meteor or meteorite? It's where the. Yeah, it's where Muhammad first saw the thing. Right.

I think there's. There's something to the. Okay, there it is. Oh, there it is. Yes.

Yeah. The embedded black stone was a further symbol of this as a meteorite that had fallen from the sky and linked heaven and earth.

Yeah. It's crazy that they got one spot. Like, they'll fight over that spot. You can't have that spot. They do.

That's. Oh, yeah. Imagine if, like, the United States wanted to put a military base on that spot. Like, no, we got to take away your religious spot. It's not real.

Joe Rogan
No, that would take away your spot. That would be a real deal breaker. That could be a deal breaker. Where's Medina? Oh, there's Medina.

Right? Next to it, they just spelled it different. I keep thinking about Tyler Perry's character, Madea. That's Mecca. That's Medina.

Colin Quinn
And Medina was cool, too. Well, yeah, they always say Mecca and Medina. Oh, really? I only heard Mecca. I know, because people pray to Mecca.

Joe Rogan
They don't pray to Medina, but okay, I think you have to go to both. So is it, like, it's a major islamic. They're really downgrading Medina. I don't like this. Yeah.

Tombs are there. The tomb of the prophet Muhammad and other leaders are at Medina. Hmm. Is it like Simon and Garfunkel? Like, one of them.

They just. Everybody, where's Garfunkel? He was like, hey, Garfunkel's great. What happened? He was great.

Colin Quinn
Oh, what happened? Yeah, Funko, those things happen. Although I'm sure they wouldn't. Of all the people who'd be compared to him. Don't think Simon and Garfunkel are what they want to be compared to.

Joe Rogan
If you don't. I mean, I know what you mean. I do know what you mean. They say, can you name somebody else, please? But I wonder what that's so specific about that area, you know?

Yeah, no, I think Muhammad's from there or something. Mm hmm. Yeah. And then just. And also the areas in Israel, the areas that are, you know, the wall, it's.

Well, that's. This Jerusalem book is really getting into it, and I'm like, oh, my God. Just the early stuff that's happening there it is. Okay. It's known as the site where the prophet Muhammad received the command to change the direction of prayer to Mecca.

Colin Quinn
Oh, so that's where he learned it. Oh, yeah.

It's a. It's a weird time for religion, for sure. It's also a weird time for the Jews. Like, yeah. I've never seen more anti semitism.

Like, openly. Yeah. Public and openly. Yeah. Then now.

Joe Rogan
Yeah. Like just regular anti semitism. Not. Not even towards these particular Israelis that are bombing Gaza. Right.

Colin Quinn
Just across the board. Yes. As if some 24 year old kid in New York is responsible for what's happening in Palestine. Right. Just cause he has a star David on.

Joe Rogan
Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's. The Internet has also got a group. It's got a group hysteria.

Like a mob hysteria to it. And then people are just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And get out all your things on that. 100%. That's exactly what it is.

Colin Quinn
And it's also a bunch of people that have been bullied and they've been marginalized and now they're a part of a team. And then they bully other people. Absolutely. It's an old hurt people, hurt people thing. It's absolutely, there's suddenly, you know, what it feels like to be in a gang, only you don't have to worry about physical repercussions.

Exactly. And that's a good feeling. Yeah. Destroy you got power. Yeah.

Yeah. It's wild. It's changed our psychology completely. Ours a little bit. But the people who grew up on it have a whole different psychology.

Joe Rogan
They have a whole different mind than we do. Yeah, they do. Yeah. And there's also a lot of really mentally ill people that are addicted. Well, yeah, of course.

Of course. A big part of it. Right. And you watch, you watch them get more and more obsessed each that you watch them become more and more compulsive and more and more as you see it happen over the years. I've seen it now.

Yeah. They go, they fall apart and. Yeah. Quite a few people that are, like, really falling apart because of it. Yeah.

Colin Quinn
Yeah. Have you ever thought about going to the flip phone? A flip phone? Yeah. I don't even know if I had a flip phone back when they came out.

Disconnect. Like Dave Davettel, he's all. Flip phone. He is. Flip phone.

Yeah. When he texts. He had a text when he was making a text in here. It's like it takes forever. It takes him forever to write a letter.

Joe Rogan
I like when that guy, Christopher Nolan, did you see his wife gave that speech at, when he won the Academy award this year? No. And she gave the speech. She goes, she was the producer, I guess, of the movie. And she goes, and my husband, who doesn't have a phone, never had a phone, never had a computer.

This guy does all these high tech things. He doesn't own a computer or a phone. Wow. Isn't that weird? It is weird.

Colin Quinn
Tucker Carlson doesn't have a computer either. Wow. Doesn't have a television. I remember hearing in the nineties, Quentin Tarantino wrote his scripts by hand. Like he never used even a typewriter or computer.

Joe Rogan
And you'd think a guy like him would be into it. Well, a lot of people like writing things by hand. In fact, I'm pretty sure JK Rowling wrote Harry Potter by hand. Wow. Yeah.

Colin Quinn
Pretty sure she wrote it by hand. See if that's true. I think she wrote it by hand first and then typed it out later. I mean, that's, that's a, that's so amazing. I also think that's how Bill Clinton wrote his autobiography, my life.

Yeah, he wrote it. I'm 99% sure he wrote. It's crazy to me. Yeah. I wrote first two potters by hand.

Joe Rogan
Wow. And typed them on a ten year old typewriter. All a writer needs is talent and ink. That's insane. That is amazing.

That's amazing. Hand drawn plot map for inception. Wow. That's nuts out, you know? That is nuts.

Colin Quinn
Wow. What a psycho. No computer. That's crazy. And this guy does, like, the most advanced screen.

Joe Rogan
His movies are always like. Maybe that's why. Maybe he realizes it's like, he has more bandwidth for concentrating on something that's really important to him and less room for nonsense. But those things, you think they would give you more time for that kind of thought? Yeah, I think.

Colin Quinn
But I think they also distract you. There's so much distraction online, it's so difficult to do work. And I guess if you just choose to not engage in it at all, then you're only concentrating on work because you're not checking your favorite sites. No. You're not seeing what's on YouTube.

You're not seeing it. And him and JK Rowling both go in the Mac realm. They go into another realm. So maybe that's how they get there. Especially JK.

She created a whole world. She really does. A whole world of wizards and lost kids and magic spells. Great shit. Amazing.

Yeah. And now she's in trouble. Oh, God. She thinks men are men and women are women. I mean, it's just insane that she.

Joe Rogan
She can actually have that kind of insane opinion. How dare. How dare she? How dare. It's psychotic because she's in real trouble.

Everybody's like, oh, she's not canceled. Yeah. I mean, she's making her money because of her books, but don't act like she's not canceled. Yeah, well, people are there. She gets death threats.

She's sick. It's weird. It's a weird. It's weird. The weirdest that that's a big part of it.

Colin Quinn
Like, people like, that can all get together, people that think that's okay. Yeah, get together and act as a gang. And everyone's so terrified of them, they just kind of let them do it. Yeah. And nobody, like, stands up and says, what the fuck are you doing?

Everybody's just kind of quiet. Even people that are on the left, they will support the people that are canceling her so that they don't get canceled. Yeah. You see it happen all the time. Yep.

Instead of saying, hey, you know, she's a wonderful person, and she has a right to her opinion, and it's very reasonable opinion, in fact. Yeah. What are you saying? Crazy. What are you saying?

Joe Rogan
It's terrible. Yeah. And they. That's why they're so. So adamant about getting you to comply.

Colin Quinn
There can't be any debate on it because they know it's ridiculous, so they have to, like, fight you with tooth and nail. Trans women are women. Yeah. Okay. All of them.

Are you sure? Are you sure? All of them? Maybe you got a few psychos in there that are pretending. Yeah.

No. No. Okay. It's crazy. Yeah.

And those are the ones that go after JK Rowling, the psychos. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, at least she stands up. That lady's got courage.

She's got a lot of courage. Yeah. She won't stop talking about it. I think she probably. Probably took her forever to realize, like, this isn't going away.

So this is just what it is. Fuck you. Fuck you. Truth of the truth. Fuck off.

Fuck off. I had a Riley Gaines on the podcast, you know. Oh, yeah, the swimmer. Yeah, that's. That's crazy, case.

Joe Rogan
Yeah. You just let a guy start swimming with girls. Cause he says he's a girl, and when he wins, you go, well, I guess she's the best. You're like, excuse me, I gotta clean my goggles for a second. I think I saw something.

Colin Quinn
Can you imagine when we were kids, this ever being a legitimate issue? That's, like, national, but it's just everybody. On the sidelines is watching the pool. Going, yeah, they should all be able to vote. Like, everyone should vote.

Like, at every one of these things. Like, how many of you think that a biological male should be? And if you say yes, and if it wins, it's fine, then the biological males can comply. That's absolutely right. If everybody says, no, no, you can't do it.

Joe Rogan
But that's the thing. Instead of just saying, look, we all understand trans people deserve rights. They get abused. We all agree, right? But you can't be in the swim.

Colin Quinn
You can't be with girls. You can't fight girls. You can't. You just can't. All the rugged girls.

No, you can't even play basketball against girls. You're too big. Stop saying that. Is really considered hate speech. I know.

That's what's nuts. Despite. But that's where it's anti science. Because if you just want to look at it objectively, if you didn't think of it as a man and a woman, if you just took it like an equation, if you just looked at the numbers that are on one side of this equation. If you're trying to pretend that these two numbers are equivalent, and you look at one of them, and it has much greater lung capacity, much stronger heart, denser bones, different hip structure, less susceptibility to ACL tears, different reaction times, if you just looked at just the system, just a system of what it means to be a male human being and compared it to, like, the elite of elite female human beings, you'd go, oh, this is not an equal.

It's not equal. It's just not equal. And I guarantee his sad part also is I guarantee most trans people feel the same way. And they can't say it right, because. They'Re not trying, because they'll be considered sellouts.

Joe Rogan
If they say it in their community, they'll be considered sellouts, and they're not allowed to say their opinion. Well, that's what I think. There's a rift now between a lot of gay people. That too. Yeah.

Colin Quinn
But I say even traits are like, look, I'm not a girl. I just like guys. Yeah. They're like, you don't. Don't say I'm.

And you're encouraging young boys to change their gender. Yeah. And they're not gonna be able to come anymore. Like, if you're encouraging them to get the operation, which is crazy. Cause they're doing thousands of them, you'll never have an orgasm again.

They remove your penis, it's gone. They create a vagina. You have to keep it dilated with a thing you stuff up there. Are you sure? Are you sure, you know.

Joe Rogan
Yeah. Wait till you, you know, 35, at least make those decisions. Yeah. If you want. If you're a 35 year old guy and you want to become a girl, God bless you.

Colin Quinn
God bless you. But that's the thing. I think a lot of trans people agree with all of this. I do. I think they do too.

Joe Rogan
And they just. They know that they're not allowed because they don't throw the baby out of the bath water. And it's like, there's a lot of things going on where they're like, why would I sacrifice against my community when I'm just gonna get screwed by both sides on it? That's. That's the other thing that goes on with the Internet hysteria, is that suddenly, if you deviate at all, you're out in bad standing with everybody.

Colin Quinn
Yeah, well, that's a problem with de transitioners. The people that transition and have deep regret. They get attacked. They get attacked. It's crazy.

Yeah. And then gay people who say that they wanted to be trans and they're younger, but then they realize they're just gay when they're older. And thank God I didn't do anything, those people get attacked. Yeah, but that's a large number. There was a study about that, about how a lot of the people that thought that they were trans when they were younger, if in time they're just gay, but when there's a thing that you're told, like, oh, no, you're this, then they give you hormones, which adjusts everything, literally changes the way you feel.

Joe Rogan
Sure. And for girls to boys, it alleviates anxiety, which is a problem, because then you think, this is what I've always been. Because you're taking testosterone, of course you're going to feel different. And now you're saying, oh, this is how I always was. If it's how you always were, you wouldn't have to take this exogenous hormone.

Colin Quinn
That wouldn't be necessary. If you think you're a boy, just be a boy. You might just be a gay girl. And if you think you're a boy and you're a girl, just live your life the way you want to live your life. Absolutely.

But if you start injecting things into your body when you're 14 or 15 years old, you'll never be the same again. It's just you don't have a chance at normalcy. It's gone. If you change your mind and one day you decide to have children, you might not be able to. You might have ruined your voice, you might have changed and masculinized your features permanently, forever.

And you might not have really wanted that. You might have just had anxiety. I mean, I started smoking cigarettes when I was 14, even though it's a different thing, but it's the same. They say if you start smoking before you're 18, you have the chances of dying young, of lung cancer. A thousand different.

Oh, yeah, it's a years thing, right? Yeah. How many years you smoke? Yeah. I mean, it's what year you start, too.

The crazy thing is, like, when we were kids, people hadn't really got it in their head that smoking was killing people. Yeah. They fought that so long. They did such a great job bullshitting people. They did such a great job of saying, man, it's probably not that bad.

Joe Rogan
For you because smoking looks cool. Doesn't look cool. It still looks cool. I see those old french italian movies. I'm like, oh, man, they're living.

They're fucking sitting there smoking badass. It's also the idea when you know it's bad for you that this person doesn't care, that it's bad for them. They're living for now. Yeah, well, that's. That's a person in the mouth just living for now.

Colin Quinn
Fuck the future. I remember when I was eleven, I had to go down to. I wanted to buy a 45 record. I'm from the days there were 45 records. And I asked my aunt, could I have a cigarette?

Joe Rogan
Because you had to walk two avenues and each block. Three blocks and two avenues and every block there was a group of kids, also eleven years old. They were up at that hour a you. That's what you didn't want to hear a kid like, oh. So I said, if I have a cigarette, I'll just.

It wasn't lit. And she gave me a cigarette at Tarryton, and I walked down the block with my cigarette. Nobody was out anyway. But, you know, that was my move. That and the karate mags.

Colin Quinn
Yeah, that's. Those are two good moves. And the six judo glasses. Young kid with a cigarette. Look at this dangerous little fuck.

I got a knife. But the karate mag, you had to really commit. I literally had to stand on the. Train like this in a horse dance. Yeah.

Joe Rogan
And stand like this with the magazine open, trains moving like this, middle of subway. Hmm. Who's gonna do that? A karate guy. Yeah.

Colin Quinn
Yeah. Smart. He's definitely better than putting in all that work. You don't want to do that. Sadly.

Joe Rogan
That's really my motive, was that of a lazy person. Yeah. You don't want to get hit in the head a bunch of times.

You. Know, many guys I know can't breathe out of their nose. Fucking large percentage of them. But how about Owen Smith? He went and got the trophy.

That's even better. That's a smart move. So he's a funny dude, man. Oh, funny trophy. That's so hilarious.

Colin Quinn
Such a funny thing to do.

I knew a story about a dude who is a fake black belt. He actually wind up killing a guy later on. Wow. He wasn't that fake. You know, it's.

It's a crazy story, but the guy was just a compulsive liar, pathological liar, and he claimed he was a black belt in some martial art. And a lot of people started getting real suspicious of him. What he did was he made his friend drop him off in the woods, and he brought a duffel bag with him, and he said he was entering into a kumite. Like a no rules kumite. Karate fight in the woods and come back and pick me up here tomorrow.

So the guy shows up the next day, and now he doesn't have the duffel bag, but now he has a trophy that's the same size as the duffel bag. And he said he won the tournament. And so he gets in the guy's car, and the guy drives him back. He's like, what? Wow.

So he's telling. He just made up a karate tournament in the woods and had his friend drop him off and then had a bag that he brought with him. He was so not clutch. Like, brought a duffel bag. What's in the duffel bag?

Oh, you know, whatever. My gay tournament. Whatever my gay. There's a karate tournament trophy in there. Guess you tell him I'm the kind of guy that's like, yeah, I like that kid you call a compulsive liar.

Joe Rogan
I call him a creative thinker who wanted a little credit for his martial arts. He was apparently allegedly banging this guy's wife and found the guy, got the guy, like, in his karate studio and strangled the guy to death, and then was seen driving around in the guy's car and eventually got arrested for it. Now, wait a minute. He was. He had a karate studio?

Colin Quinn
Yeah, yeah. He was a fake black belt that had a martial arts studio. Oh, my God. Yeah. And he actually had some people that trained with him that were legit martial arts.

They just didn't know. And he was, like, kind of just proficient enough in the bullshit and got some guys who actually knew a little bit. Yes. Right? He's just like, hey, do fingertip push ups for 20 minutes.

I could teach you how to choke a person pretty quickly. It's not hard to teach someone how to do this with your arm and that with your arm. It's just being able to do it to a person is very difficult. But I could show you very quickly how to squeeze it off, and you would be really effective at it. And so that's what he did to this guy.

He strangled him to death. He got behind him, and he just choked him to death. And then he stole his car and just driving around. I don't know what they did with the body. I don't remember exactly what happened, but I remember, like.

Cause we had already confronted that guy on being a fake. My friend Eddie actually had a very uncomfortable phone conversation with him while I was with him, where he's like, you're full of shit, man. Like, you're not a black belt. There's no fucking way you're a black belt. It's like.

Cause he was. He was telling him he did another thing while we were together. Like, he went to Thailand to compete in some mixed martial arts fight. And he had just learned this move called the twister. Very difficult move to pull off.

And he came back and he told Eddie that he won his fight by the twister. And Eddie was like, what? What the fuck are you talking about? Like, how did you do that? You don't know how to do that.

Like, you don't. You're not good. Like, he knew he had rolled with the guy. He knew the guy was terrible. And he was saying that, oh, I'm a black belt in japanese jiu jitsu.

Different. Like, okay. But he was like, no, he was incompetent. He was like a white belt on the ground. And so he knew when he said that he won this match, like, he didn't really go to Thailand.

Like, this is fake. This guy's a nut. And so Eddie had separated from him. And then after that, we hear this story that he killed this guy and was driving the guy's fucking Jaguar around town. Like, holy shit.

Yeah. Don't you think that compulsive liars. Like, I feel like there's not enough research on what it is because sometimes you'd be like, that's not true. And they look at you and they. You're not embarrassing them.

Joe Rogan
They. Part of them believes it's true. Or they just. Broken. I think they're broken.

Colin Quinn
They don't care if you. If you feel good or bad. They just want you to buy their story. Yeah, yeah. They're not really there.

They're not really connecting. That's their only mission in life is sometimes it doesn't even, you know, benefit them. And they still. That's the most important thing to them. Have you read about guys who have, like, pretended to be doctors and set up practices and operated on people and sh.

Joe Rogan
I went to one. The guy. I went to one in. Yeah, this is in the nineties. And I'll tell you this.

It's all over the paper. Dean. I forget his last name, but he's in prison right now for life. Dean. I'll look it up later.

But anyway, somebody tells me I had, like, a cyst on my arm. So they go, I know a guy that'll take it off. You know, he's a good dermatologist. Dean something. Anyway, so he sets up an appointment, and it's on a Saturday at a doctor's Park Avenue.

It's. But it's Saturday and I was like, oh cool, I'm off Saturday. I go over to his office, I walk in. When I think back now, it was like nobody, no receptionist, just him. He goes, hey, im just working Saturday by myself.

He goes, I let the receptionist off. I was like, oh cool. I go in the office, its kind of dark but its doctors office. And I dont know, I guess he worked for the doctor when he had the keys or something and he slices the thing off. It kind of hurt.

It healed very badly. But it healed but it was not a great job. I remember thinking, I'll never go back to that guy. He overdid it, you know? Yeah, yeah.

It wasn't, the novocaine was weird, whatever. Anyway, like four years later, Dean Fayello fa fa. I was waiting to make sure it. Was the right guy. That's the guy.

Colin Quinn
Sheds light on botched procedure that left New York woman dead nearly 20 years ago. Oh my God. He buried her. He buried her under constant, under a concrete slab. It's a good thing I left.

Holy shit. Psycho. Yeah, and it was like really like he looked like, you know, he's like well coiffed hair and he's crazy eyebrows. The guy. Yeah, I knew him 20 years ago.

Joe Rogan
He looked much better buried. Oh, he got out, huh? Whoa. I don't know exactly how they were talking to him. I guess he got out.

No, when he was young. That's. That picture doesn't do him justice. Was that. Was he creepy?

Yeah, you got to see the young when he's young. The picture of when he's young. He looks like not creepy, but he just looks like he would do it. Yeah, there he is on the left. That's Dean.

Yeah. That's when they caught him. Yeah. Wow. Fake doctor.

Colin Quinn
Dean Fayello feared something would go wrong. Yeah, I went to him. Do you think, did he have any medical history? I bet he must have worked for an office because he had the keys to the doctor's office. He must have been like a.

He was just a crazy person. He was receptionist or something. Yeah. And what year was this where he's doing all this stuff? He's from Madison, New Jersey.

Joe Rogan
Most likely to succeed by his classmates. Wow. Wow. He wore construction, hair removal at a day spa. Became skilled at hair removal.

Colin Quinn
1996, he began his own practice, skin ovations from an office on Park Avenue. Wow. The blood vessel removal, tattoo removal, and this. He's selling himself short. He also removed moles.

Wow. That must have been the office. Park Avenue in 73rd. So how did she die? How did this lady die?

Lidocaine. He had completed the same procedure on cruise over a dozen times before without her experiencing an allergic reaction to lidocaine. Oh, he was not licensed. This procedure admitted doing at least 14 times on Cruz alone. He went on to claim that after some time, Cruz had bubbles coming out of her mouth and her body went limp.

By his own account, he delayed calling for help, allegedly attempting CPR, but could not get her to start breathing again. He adds that despite being previously certified in electrolysis for hair removal, he didn't have the proper training for what to do when a patient goes into shock. Jesus Christ. What a crazy person. An unverified claim made by Fayello, who is not licensed or trained to make medical diagnoses and claims that he didn't know how to check for a pulse.

He admitted walking away while he believed she was dying of shock. Fayello later called a doctor he knew personally to explain his version of what happened to Cruz. According to Vanity Fair reporter Brian Burrow, the doctor told him to either call 911 or Rush Cruise to a hospital emergency room. Instead of helping Cruz, Fayello shoved Cruz's body into a black suitcase, which had been stolen days earlier from his housemate, Mark Ritchie. Fiello claims he put the suitcase containing Maria Cruz in his car and drove straight home.

Then he left her in the trunk for two days before finally removing her body into his garage, which was just undergoing renovations. It's unclear whether or not Maria Cruz was still alive when Fiala beat began to try to cover up his actions. Cruz's wallet and purse were discovered by Faello's housemate inside a black gym bag placed under a rafter in the unfinished ceiling of the garage in August 2003, just one month after Fiello was kicked out. He later admitted in June 2003, nearly three months after Cruz was killed, that he had buried Cruz's body underneath the garage before pouring cement, right before a sale of the house was closed. Boy.

Joe Rogan
Boy. And see what I said? The numbing agent didn't work. That doctor just kept his fucking mouth shut, huh? He doctor.

Colin Quinn
He called? Yeah, that doctor never told nobody. Yeah, that's kind of creepy. That's really creepy. Like, the doctor never go, hey, man, whatever happened, that lady.

Yeah, he didn't even ask. So, like, nobody even knew. And all of a sudden, she was. If that moron didn't leave that gym bag behind, he might have gotten away with it. He probably would have.

Joe Rogan
I'd be going to him today. I mean, in 2003, how good were they at ketchup Beanville? Yeah, not as good, right? No, but isn't that funny when I just said the numbing agent didn't work and that's. He obviously tried to.

Oh God. Okay. In the aftermath of the call between mutual friend. Oh, the mutual friend of Fayello, he did rat him out. They both realized Fayello lied when he stated he got the woman to medical help, that she was fine.

Colin Quinn
Box searched the house. Now, Fayello wasnt there. And while looking in the garage, recalled Fiello using concrete just before moving out. Batts remembered how uncharacteristically secretive he was about the project and his over reaction when Bach walked in on him pouring concrete. According to New York State detective Lieutenant TJ Mulrooney, Bachs information gave us the break in the investigation.

We were hoping for his ex boyfriend. Oh. Brian Ford received a tip from Fiello's ex boyfriend, Greg Bach. Okay, so that's who Bach is. Maria Cruz's body was recovered from the property now occupied by new homeowners.

Boy, can they get their money back fucking live in that house. This lady was underneath the garage. You're parking your honda over a dead lady? Yeah, for months. Well, think of how many people don't know that it's happened in their whole life.

Yeah, a lot. Yeah, yeah. Dun dun dun. So that was my guy. Yeah, he was a compulsive liar.

Jeffreed murder machine. Sure. Yeah, yeah, those guys were something. Yeah, that was Joey Diaz turned me on. That, that book scared the shit out of me about Roy DeMeo.

Joe Rogan
Meanwhile, my friends that grew up around there, they, when they were little kids, they were telling me they used to throw snowballs at the old man's bar, that bar, they're like, ahahaha. They throw snowballs. The old men drinking there, meanwhile they. Were just slaughtering people. Yeah, they're throwing little twelve year old kids like all the old bastards, you know, they're throwing mafia snowballs.

Colin Quinn
Is the mafia still a thing? I mean, I don't think it's, I mean it's still a thing, but I don't think it's nothing. I mean, when you think about how important the mafia was in the fifties and sixties and seventies, even the eighties, but it's insane how much power they had. Vegas. I mean, they probably killed Kennedy.

Joe Rogan
I mean, had something to do with it. But they, even if they didn't, they had so much power over so many industries, it was insane. Well, you got to remember, Kennedy fucked them over. Yeah, because they got him in. Yeah, they helped him get him in.

Colin Quinn
They helped him win, but they say. That, but how much? So they got him Chicago. You know what I mean? That's a lot.

Joe Rogan
Yeah, I guess so. But, I mean. Yeah. And then he turned on him. Well, he let Robert turn on him.

Yeah. Yeah, Robert turn on him. Not good. But here's the weird thing. Didn't Robert turn on them in the fifties?

Was that the. I feel like that was before Kennedy was president, but maybe promised to lay off, and then he didn't really, but I guess that's why. I would love to. That's the one thing I'd like to see before I die. I'm sure everybody would.

I want those Kennedy pay. I want those papers. Did you hear what trumpet said about them? What? That you don't want to see them or something?

Colin Quinn
Yeah. He said if they showed you what they showed me, you wouldn't release it either. But what does that mean? He said he's gonna release him. They.

Joe Rogan
That means they. That means they threatened him. Probably means they threatened. What else could it mean? Well, I.

You wouldn't want to release it either. It's like, what. What's gonna happen? It's 60 years later. What could it be?

Colin Quinn
It could destroy the CIA. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. That's why.

That's why you should release it. That if you were the president and they told you that, what would you do? You go, well, you know what? The public deserves to know, let's destroy the CIA. Or do you say, you know what?

We're gonna hide this and you're gonna give the CIA even more power. But I'm saying, here's the thing. If you ever killed the president, whatever. This was 2019, right? Yeah.

Joe Rogan
What you would do is you would say, this CIA was nothing like today's CIA. That was back in 1963. You know what I mean? That's all you would say. You would say, that was the terrible time in our history, and thank God there's been several changes.

You know what I mean? I just don't know if people would. Accept that, except that the CIA hasn't. Has changed. Yeah, I don't think they would.

Colin Quinn
I think it would open up scrutiny that would be almost impossible for them to do their job the way they do it right now. Oh, they just changed the name of the organization. They changed immigration. Ins became ice, became Asi, became, you. Know, I mean, like, change the name of the CIA.

How dare you? Yeah. What are you, communist? Changed it to, uh, the, uh, the Central Intelligence Agency. Just.

Joe Rogan
I never liked that name anyway. It's stupid. You know what I mean, there's gotta be a better name. What do you. What do you, uh.

The, uh, United States over the over. Well, let's think of Sv. Something like, you know, like the overlords. How about that? That's what they are.

Colin Quinn
Information overlords. Let's just cut to the chase. The information overlords. We decide what gets out, we find out what's happening. How about the american Shadow boys?

Ooh, I like it. Shadow boys. Sounds like a cool band. Yeah, that was like a cool bluegrass band. Shadow boys.

Six straight. Like, some dude. A banjo they played. Six string. Yeah, that sounds a good band.

The Shadow boys. I like that. All right. I'm good at band names. Are you?

Give me another one. I tried to make my nephew back 20 years ago. He's trying to be. I said, call yourselves. Do you know what?

Joe Rogan
Cause that was one of my favorite jokes. Ever hear that parrot joke? Ever hear that parrot joke? About the parrot joke? The guy buys the parrot.

He goes, you don't want to buy this parrot. He's got a filthy mouth. And he goes, I can handle it. Parrot comes home. The parrot goes, hey, mister.

Mister. He goes, what? He goes, go fuck yourself. The guy goes, don't talk to me like that. Smacks the cage.

Pirate beats up the parrot. He goes, don't ever. He goes, I'm not the guy to play with like that. Next day, he comes home, parrot goes, I missed a mister. He goes, what?

He goes, go fuck yourself. He goes, you, peace. Starts smashing, almost drowns the pirate. He goes, next time he tell me to go fuck myself, I'm gonna kill you. I promise you, I'm gonna kill you.

Next day, he shows up after work. Pirate goes, hey, miss Davis. He goes, what? Pirate goes, you know what?

Colin Quinn
I forgot that joke. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's what they used to do in the old days, Catskill guys. They just go up there and tell jokes.

Joe Rogan
There's still guys that do that shit. Yeah, I hate to say it, and I always get jealous because I'm always like, God damn it, they work every time, right? They're great jokes. Yeah, all those old jokes. People are like, oh, that's an old joke.

It's like, yeah, and they're great jokes. But, you know, we would never do it if we would never lower ourselves. The weird thing about great jokes is, who wrote them? Where do they come from? I tried to get.

I used to live in the same building with Jackie maundling, the joke man. Jackie the joke man. So one time I go, Jackie, his, well, just like 15 years ago, I go, we're going to do a documentary. We're going to find out all the jokes, where they come from, who wrote them. I said, because you must know a lot of this.

Because he knows every joke ever written, you know? So I go, you must know some of this. He goes, no, I don't. I go, what? He goes, I don't know any of those.

I go, you, you know all these jokes, your whole life is built on it. You didn't bother to try to find he was, I have no idea where they came from. So even he doesn't know. That's what I gave. Isn't that crazy?

Isn't that weird that nobody, some of these jokes are amazing and nobody knows, nobody knows where any of them came from. It's weird. It's weird. And some of them are great. Where do they come from?

Colin Quinn
And that's also, we have that with memes now. And some memes, you know, who did it? Because they put like a watermark on it. Yeah. And they post it on their site.

Some memes, you get in a text message chain, someone just sends you something, like, and then you send it to your friends and like, wow. And nobody knows where it came from. And some of them are some of the funniest fucking things. Really funny. Ever seen online.

Joe Rogan
Really funny. Really funny, yeah. Where does it all come from? Well, you're getting now, especially, especially with memes, you're getting the input of millions of people. And there's so many people out there that could have been comics and just chose not to be either.

Colin Quinn
They didn't try it and they have a mind for it. Right. But they're funny. And so they get their funny out on sneak tip. They get their funny out when no one's looking.

They take a picture of Taylor Swift and they do something to it and they write something underneath it and they post it up there. And that's how they're doing comedy. Yeah. They're getting that out in this way. And when you're sourcing from millions and millions and millions of people, like we're doing currently, probably more, probably billions of english speaking people that are contributing to the meme pool of the world, right?

Cause you have all these other countries with millions of people, it's probably a billion plus people that are doing that, and they're all online. And out of those, you're gonna get a few thousand hilarious people that have never done stand up and could be a Dave a tell. They just never did it, right? That's right. Yeah.

I mean, those minds exist. Oh, I used to have a few friends that were really funny. We had this friend Al. A friend Al would work in an ambulance. He would come home every night and remember, he would have an experience every night.

Joe Rogan
Cause he's in an ambulance. Right. He would come back and tell us stories, and people would be the next day, and we'd be crying because every night, the way he told, he was a funny guy, and he would just talk about all the abuse he took as this driver. So I pull up, and he was that kind of guy. Like you said, he could have been a great comic.

Colin Quinn
Yeah, there's a lot of guys like that. The funniest guy I ever knew who was in a comic was a guy I worked for. He was a private investigator. His name was Dave Dolan. He used to call himself dynamite dickless Dave Dolan.

He'd, like, leave messages on my voicemail. I still have a phone number that I haven't gotten rid of. I have this phone because it has a voicemail on it from him. Before he died, and he was a private investigator, he lost his license drunk driving, and so he needed someone to be his driver, so he put an ad in the newspaper for private investigators. Apprentice.

I was like, oh, I'll try that. I needed some other kind of a job to just sustain myself. I was trying to make a living doing standup, and so I drove this guy around for six months until he got his license back, and we did a lot of private investments. He would just make you laugh. Oh, my God, he was hilarious.

He was so funny. He was so funny about everything. He was always funny. He was just on, he was. Everybody he talked to, they just start smiling the moment they start talking to this guy.

He was a charming dude. He was smart as shit. He was just very, very funny. And he was. I would be crying, and I remember telling my girlfriend at the time I came back, we went out to dinner that night, and we were eating, and I was like, I'm not anywhere near as funny as this guy.

And he doesn't even want to be a comedian. No. It's so craze. I was an open micr at the time. I was just starting.

Joe Rogan
They're just funny. He was just funny. I mean, just, the fucking guy had a funny take on everything. Yeah, same with. And he was a drunk, but he's quit drinking like that.

Colin Quinn
Never went back to it. Never, never fell off the wagon, was getting hammered every night, and then went to nothing and was still had the sensibility of a hilarious guy at the bar. He still act like a drunk, but he was stone cold sober. He had no filter. Dick Dolan.

Joe Rogan
Yeah. Dynamite. Dave Dolan. Al Kantor. Same thing.

Yeah, there's funniest. Those guys just would come out and just roll 20 new minutes a day. It always makes me think about that Billy Joel song. You know, I'm sure that I could be a movie star if I could get out of this place, right? Sing us a song.

Yes. I mean, there's a lot of people out there that just never. Just never tried it, never went for it, never tried something. And there's a million things to get in a way, you know? Have you ever heard of Forrester's syndrome?

Colin Quinn
No. I was looking up the origin of knock doc jokes, and this popped up during this article that said, in Europe, incessant wordplay became treated as a psychological condition. Oh, my God. Jamie's gotta go to a hospital. Manic punning people that were compulsively punning.

Well, that's Tony Hinchcliffe, right? Tony H. Would 100% get locked up. Compulsive punting in inappropriate jokes was known as Forrester syndrome in the 19. Oh, I love it.

Twenties or thirties, I guess that's back when people needed to go to work. There was only work. Joking. Hold on. I'm sorry, but joking just got in the way of things.

Well, especially in 1929, austrian psychoanalyst AA Brill was exploring a malady termed Witzel stocked. How do you say that? Yeah, that sounds good. We shall shuck an addiction to wisecracks. According to psychology today, german neurologist Otfrid Foerster identified manic punting in what eventually became known as Foerster syndrome.

Wow. And then I guess people got tired of it and they lumped knock knock jokes in there. Cause, like, it was like, in the. Radio in the thirties, people were like. Knock knock jokes were everywhere in clubs.

Joe Rogan
By the way, would this not be a great movie? Yeah, would be a great movie. Like, okay, so we all agree basically that the first real stand up in terms of, like, the way we do it was Lenny, right? Lenny Bruce. Yes, he was the first.

Colin Quinn
So he was the first game change to just talk about stuff. Game change? Yeah, just talk about stuff and make it funny instead of just have, like, a series of jokes that anybody could tell. Well, not anybody, but. Right.

Yeah, yeah. But, you know, like Catskill guys. So many of them were just joke tellers. Yeah. No, he was a game changer.

Yeah. Who have you seen live? Who'd you get a chance to see live? Did you see prior live? No, never.

Joe Rogan
I had Carlin on, on tough crowd. Oh, really? It was fun. Oh, wow. That must have been awesome.

That was really awesome. My whole, all my family, my family never really come to show. I'm from New York, so my cousins, everybody, they've been to my shows over the years, but, you know, this is already 100 years. They're not going to come. I forget how I knew, but I told them the whole stands, there was 40 or 50 of my family, my cousins, my uncles, my aunt, because calling for irish people of a certain, that routine he did was like, it's the first ever comedy have that power to hear.

Like, they would just listen to it and just laugh over the catholic school experience that traumatized them. And this guy did 13 minutes explaining it. That 13, that's all a bit was 13 minutes, and it changed their whole lives. And so they all showed up, and it was just a really power. And he was said hi to, you know, like, he understood.

Like, he went out there and was like, hey, how you doing? To them, it was really interesting. Look at little skinny Jim. Yep. Little young baby face, Colin Quinn.

Jim demanded to be on that show, by the way. Yeah. He loves Colin. Yeah. Look at Nick Dipolo.

Oh, yeah. Young and handsome. Oh, yeah. Geraldo. Wow.

Colin Quinn
Yeah, that was a great show. Do you think you'd ever redo that show? Would you ever want to know? We talked about this last time. I feel like it was what it was at the time, and it's just.

But you were so good as a host. Thanks. Thanks. Have you thought about doing something like that, where you host something with. Well, when I did.

Joe Rogan
When I did, I did this cop show on YouTube that was basically like a law and order show, and I started having comedians on, and I was planning on making it like, like I would have Jim on, but it would, the plot would involve insulting him and, like, attacking him. And then Bobby Kelly came on, and he's dressed his sister like a villain, and he's, like, complaining about me putting him in this, you know, women's outfit and Keith Robinson. So it became sort of like, that's what I would do, but, I mean, I ran out of money, but, I mean, but that's. I did a bunch of those cop show type things. I think tough crowd, in a lot of ways, was the beginning of podcasting.

Colin Quinn
Yeah. I think a combination of the Opie and Anthony show and tough crowd. Yeah. Because those are the first places where comics got together and just talk shit. And be themselves and talk shit to.

Each other and riffing and laughing at each other. Other and having a good time together. Yeah. And you saw the camaraderie, which you didn't really see that with comedians. You saw them on stage by themselves telling the routine.

You never saw them sitting down together like that. No, no. Yeah, it was definitely. It was definitely an interesting thing, but I thought I would do it in that form. The cops should think, because that was more.

Joe Rogan
You could still do it and you could make fun of the culture at the same time. It was another way of doing it. But anyway, I did that for a while, but. But, uh, you know, but that show. Was groundbreaking because, like, you.

Colin Quinn
You guys would just. You would cover, like, cultural issues. Yeah. Current news events, things that were happening. You get all these comics, have a take on things, and then.

Joe Rogan
And then trash somebody's personal life, too, in the middle of it. And there's. There's clips on. On Instagram. Like, there's a.

Colin Quinn
There's one channel that has all tough crowd clips, and you go and watch. You. Oh, my God, these guys are being so much trouble today. Oh, we'd be gone even back then. We got in trouble.

I know, but it's. It's just crazy. I mean, we're talking, like, tough crowd ended 2000. What? 2004.

2000. 420 years. Wow. 20 years ago. Isn't that crazy?

That's 20 years ago. Oh, God. Boy. It makes no sense. Time is just a motherfucker, isn't it?

Joe Rogan
It's ridiculous. It's so quick. It's terrible. It's so long and yet so quick. Yeah.

Colin Quinn
So much experience, and yet it just all happened just a little while ago. Jesus. But so long ago. 20 years is a long. It's really long.

Joe Rogan
Insane to me. Yeah. It feels like it was yesterday. It feels like it never happened. It feels like both.

It feels like it was just recent and like it was never. It never occurred. It's a movie I watched. Right, right. Like, if you watch it, you won't even remember what you said.

And you think about Geraldo and Patrice. These guys had long gone. You know what? Your crazy Geraldo story. This is really weird.

Colin Quinn
I went to a movie recently, and I'm leaving the movie theater, and I went into the bathroom, and as I'm leaving the bathroom, this guy walks in, and he recognizes me, and he said, hey, what's up? And I go, what's up? And I thought it was Greg Geraldo for, like, 1 second. Cause he was, like. He was taller, but he looked exactly like a young Geraldo.

And my brain. I didn't expect to see him. And so I opened the door, and this guy's there, and he says, what's up? To me? And I think he recognized me.

Cause it's like, no, greg's dead. That's crazy. And this isn't Greg. Like, this is crazy. And I'm like, hey, what's up, man?

Joe Rogan
How you doing? Nice to meet you. And then, so I recover, and I walk out, and then I'm like, oh, my God. I tell my wife, I said, I just thought I saw a dead friend of mine. For 1 second, I thought it was him.

Colin Quinn
So I know it sounds crazy, but I was so happy to see him for that 1 second before I realized. It'S like a dream. Yeah, it was horrible, but it was great. It's great for that 1 second. It was great because I was like, greg.

Joe Rogan
Yeah. But it wasn't him. And they're gone forever. He was on the same set as me when I was doing news radio. So we were doing news radio at one, one of the buildings.

Colin Quinn
And his building was right next door when he was doing his sitcom. So we would always hang out together in the parking lot and talk shit and watch Joey Lawrence get into his car. I mean, that's when you see. Of course. Yeah.

He had a sitcom there too. Yeah, they had a big scandal recently. Some chamalus thing, right? What? Who?

Joe Rogan
Brothers. Really? I thought I saw something for real. I didn't hear about that. What is it?

I don't know. Because there's also a lawsuit about one of the things. I don't know. Sorry. There's a lawsuit about one of those.

Colin Quinn
Google that. I haven't heard that story at all. But he was. He would play his own music in his car. Joey.

Like a mercedes. Whoa. Yeah. Plays all music. Rocking out.

Must have been fun. Be a beautiful, handsome 19 year old with a sitcom. He's probably like 1920 years old. Yeah, that. Older than that.

Just playing his own music in his car. I was like, look at this guy. I love it when you run into another comedian when you're involved with non comedy things. Yes. Matthew Lawrence.

Joe Rogan
That's what it was. My agency fired me after I refused to take my clothes off for an award winning director. Right. Whoa, whoa. So they were involved in the victim side of it?

Yes. He was supposed to be like a superhero movie or one of these things. Jesus Christ. It's creepy when you find out how much of that stuff is real. Yeah, it is.

Colin Quinn
You know, the more they unveil the more stories come out. Unbelievable. Kids, Nickelodeon. Like the Nickelodeon thing. I was watching that.

Doesn't it make sense, though? Like, if you were a fucking creep, you'd want to work with kids. There's been many times in my life where I've been propositioned to get a huge role. Lawrence says in the podcast. I lost my agency because I went to the hotel room where the actor alleges a prominent director showed up in his robe, asked me to take my clothes off, said he needed to take Polaroids with me, and said if I did x, y, and Z, I would be the next Marvel character.

Holy fuck. Yo, if he's telling the truth, yo. Yeah. You know who else was on the set? Lenny Clark.

Oh, he was, yeah, Lenny Clark was on that show with. What the fuck was his name? He had, he played a judge. He used to be on the. Harry.

Joe Rogan
Harry something Anderson. God damn it. He had a show. It was a show. Was his name John Larquette?

Colin Quinn
Yes, the John Larraquet show. Pull up the cast of the John Laraquette show. Did you hear that sermon? Lenny Clark, that he, when he first got a sitcom in the eighties, I saw him out there in 91. Whenever it was, there it is.

Look at Lenny. So I knew Lenny because I, the second time I ever got paid to do stand up, I opened for Lenny and Lennon's like, kid, you're hilarious. He gave me all this great advice. I was like, holy shit, Lenny Clark from HBO. He said I'm funny.

He laughed at me like, this is amazing. And so years later, it was like five, six years later, Lenny and I are working on sitcoms on the same lot, just right next to each other. But the story is when, you know, he got his own sitcom, Lenny, back in like 91, and he went to the bank and he says, I went to the bank. I think you told me the story. Maybe I heard it on a show.

Joe Rogan
But he goes and they go, uh, well, Mister Clark, you can't buy this house. We need this collateral. He goes, here's my collateral. He showed him a tv guide. He was on the COVID The COVID TV Guide.

Back when that was like a thing. He got robbed. He did, yeah, his agent. He had a. And he was a part of, I think it was.

I don't believe our agent robbing. No, I know, crazy. But I think this one person got like, Jerry Seinfeld. Wait, I knew those guys. Of course.

Colin Quinn
That story. Spotlight. Yes, that's it, dad. Not star. Spotlight.

Joe Rogan
Spotlight. Yeah. They fucked everybody. Oh, yeah. They were.

Colin Quinn
Stole millions of dollars, right? Whatever happened with all that they were in. Oh, I don't know. But I think they were very connected in certain areas, what I heard. Yeah.

Joe Rogan
So nothing happened. Not good. Nothing happened. Damn. Yeah.

Colin Quinn
Got robbed. Yeah. A lot of people lost money. It's like a Bernie Madoff type deal almost. That's right.

Joe Rogan
For comedy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's. It's.

Colin Quinn
We'll handle your money, Colin. Don't talk about it. Colin, we'll handle your money. I mean, and we were so stupid. And I remember Brett Butler telling me, look at these assholes.

Joe Rogan
Talk about spotlight. These guys come in here. They're here to rob us. And I go, that's. I was thinking, like, what do you have to those?

They're our friends. We see them every night at the club. Why would you think they hit a rob? They're doing business. They take that percentage.

That's what I was thinking. Yeah. Six months later, I'm like, oh, shit. They came right in. They come to the.

Because that's what's so great when people are robbing you is they're not. They're coming in, like, friendly. They. But they're hanging out with you as friends. Yeah.

They're going to the diner. They act. They bring all that human being shit, and then they fucking rob you the whole time. Yes. Yes.

Colin Quinn
Sociopaths are amongst us. They're sociopaths. There are they. They do exist. They do.

Joe Rogan
And they. Many of them are successful in business. Well, we talked about them last night, like, joke thief sociopaths. There's a bunch of them, too. Yes, that's right.

Colin Quinn
Sociopaths. Yes. What it is. That's how they can do that. Well, they.

Joe Rogan
They disassociate themselves from what they're doing. The same thing with those pathological liar. Like that guy dean. He didn't think he was gonna kill her. He's, like, helping her.

And, like, they're not thinking. I mean, they know they have to cover it up. Same with joke thieves. They think they'd. They don't think they're joke thieves.

They're like, no, no, I'm just. I'm inspired, but. Or they think everybody does it. Or they think everybody's influenced. Yeah.

Colin Quinn
What was the story with the spotlight? Can you find that? What did they do? I don't think it. Money.

Joe Rogan
I don't even think they. I don't think it became a thing. I think it was just we knew about it. I bet it's not even an article. So they were connected?

Colin Quinn
Is that what the deal is? That was. That was the word. And it seemed like when I look back, I'm like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Shady.

Joe Rogan
Like, they were just, you know, so much shady. I know. The morning, I'd see them all the time. Yeah. And they were just shady motherfuckers.

Yeah. Hanging out with you. And I remember the lead. I don't remember his name, but he looked just like. Remember that movie angel Heart when De Niro plays Louis Cipher?

Lucifer. He looked like him. Yeah.

Colin Quinn
You ever read. You ever hear that Zach Bryan song, damn cold vampires? No. It's a great fucking song about that. It's a great song.

It's about the industry. It's cold. Damn vampires are the name, but he says these damn cold vampires is the song. Yeah. Trying to build an empire off the things that they can take.

Joe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all it is, is they're building an empire off other people's work. And what they're doing. It's just comedians, I guess. Other people are, but comedians are really the easiest because we're not business people.

We don't have a business mind. Right, right. So it's like, they look around, they go, and they probably think to themselves, like, hey, if they want. Like. Like any thief thinks if it was that important to them, they wouldn't leave it out there.

So just take it. They didn't ask about the check. You take it. Right. Because we get sidetracked and we all have, like, some kind of.

Colin Quinn
Well, if you're in a corrupt business and everybody else is corrupt, too. And in show business in the early days, it was all corrupt. It was all mob run, and everybody was. Everybody was in cahoots. Everybody was robbing.

Joe Rogan
Yeah. Oh, my God. I mean, yeah, it's crazy, wild business. Yeah. But, yeah.

Colin Quinn
So we were on. So the Greg Geraldo thing was like, greg and I would just hang out in the parking lot all the time. I knew him in New York, but I really got to know him on the set. Great guy. This is how some guys, when they die, you just go, no, just.

No, no, not that one. Yeah, no, I know. I know. And he was. Yeah.

Joe Rogan
I mean, he was. I'd see him every night for years. And it was a great guy. Yeah. Did you know Brody?

Colin Quinn
Yeah, Stevens. I know Brody when he worked at the cellar. He used to be the. The barker at the cellar. When you.

Joe Rogan
When we had to drag people in the cellar, he was the barker. He'd be great at that. He was great at it. Yeah, yeah. He was a good dude.

Colin Quinn
He was another one when he went, I was like, no, just. No, I know just. What? He died of suicide. Oh, no.

Exactly. Oh, my God. That's one way you just go. Maybe if you saw him the night before and gave him a hug and told him a funny was, you love him, maybe it would have helped a little. You know, you always think things after the fact.

He had gone through some episodes where he would go off his medication and he'd get a little crazy, then he'd get back on, and then every now and then, he'd just catch that groove, and he'd be on stage and he would be on fire. I remember one time I was at the improv, and it was a late, late show. It was like a 10:00 p.m.. Show. And I think my spot was like, 1130.

So I do my spot, and the show's over. Fucking 80 people in the crowd. It's one of them deals. And then Brody is gonna close the show, and they introduce Brody. Brody takes his shirt off, and he's swinging it around overhead with music.

Like they're playing music. He's swinging around and walking through the crowd. He's like, energy, positive energy, swinging his shirt around, and he goes on stage and he starts playing drums on the stool, and everybody's going crazy. And then he goes into his material. Eight one eight till I die, and everybody's dying.

I mean, he just took over the room. And I remember saying, like, he does so many of these late night sets that he just comes on with his big energy and he just recharges the whole room. Everybody loved Brody. That's the kind of. Yeah, that's like.

Joe Rogan
Well, that's that same Chris Foley thing where they would just come in and change the energy. Right? Change the energy of the room. The whole energy was just like, whoa. And it's like you can't pull it off unless you're them.

Like, if you say, I'm gonna be that guy, and you try it after, like, 30 seconds, you just fade. Yes. They just. It brought more out in that they just organically that way, you know? Exactly.

Colin Quinn
Yeah. Like you said about date dickless Dave. Yeah. Same thing comes in, people start smiling. Yeah, totally.

Could have been a comic. Yeah. Yeah. It's. It's interesting how few people go down the path, you know, it's just a such a weird.

If you're gonna really. You wanna be successful in life, it's not a good. It's not a good road. No, it's so. There's so many weird obstacles to it that it's crazy.

Joe Rogan
And you really have to get hardened. It's like every other business. I'm sure you're successful. You, a little bit of your innocence about humor has to die, too, because you have to really. It's a business for you too.

And as much as we love it, and I love watching comedians and being a comedian, and I love watching comedians doing their bits and working it out, it's still. You have to really be tough. You have to be tough to be a comedian. Something in you has to be able to tolerate a lot of shit. Yes.

Colin Quinn
That's for sure. Yeah. You gotta be able to tolerate bombing. Tolerate bad nights, bombing everything. If you could tolerate bombing, that's people's biggest fear.

Joe Rogan
Yeah. You tolerate a lot in life. That's your people's biggest fear. And we've literally had to stare in the face of a bomb. Boy, times that anybody can imagine.

I mean, it's literally been over a hundred times in my life where I've had people hating my guts over a hundred times. Group of people. Everyone's worst fear. Yeah. What year did you start?

84. Wow. So you were in the boom boom. I came in 88, which is like, a little after the boom. Yes.

Colin Quinn
The boom was kind of like dying off when I started. That's right. But that boom in 84 must have been bananas. Well, for me, I was new, so we didn't even think of it. We just thought, oh, this is how life is, you know?

Right. And suddenly, like, two years in, you're making money. Not a lot of money. It wasn't like Boston, I always say. But we're talking about last time, how my clock paid real money and all guys were getting.

Joe Rogan
Robbing us. And, um. But, yeah, but it was such an exciting. I mean, just imagine, I. I tell people, you have a community, they go, what?

You're a comedian. What? Like, it would just blow people's minds that you were in comedy. And then, you know, a few years later, people like, oh, my cousin's a comedian, so and so. Yeah, but at the time, it was blowing people's minds.

Colin Quinn
Did they have open mics when you started? Oh, yeah. That's the only way we get on. Yeah. How many?

Where'd you go? Where's the first place? The paper moon. There's a place called the paper Moon. Eddie Brill was running this place.

Eddie Brown. Yeah. So paper moon. We started working out there. I started working out there, you know, and weasel my way into it and started working out.

Joe Rogan
And I would bring crowds. Where was the paper? I was a good. I was a good brainer. Yeah.

I bring all my friends because I grew up in New York. Right. So my friends would show up, you know, where was the paper move on west. It's where the bossy comedy club became. Oh, wow.

Colin Quinn
Oh, downstairs. Downstairs. Oh, it was really cool. Boston comic club was a great spot. We so innocent.

Joe Rogan
Yeah. We just thought, you know, we had a sound guy, and we're like, hey, we're gonna do film. We tried to do films, and we just. So in it, everybody's so innocent. We saw it, you know.

Yeah. I'd never want to do it again, but I'm glad I did it. Yeah. Like, imagine starting something like that from scratch. Imagine at your age trying a new thing.

Yeah. People do do that. It's crazy. Like, how do you have the energy? I guess it's their dream.

Yeah, you can't. You can't. You what you said, it's exactly right. The energy to sustain. Yeah.

All those drives to bomb for bad money. And then, like you said, you had. A day job, and also I had. A day job too. You had to make it because you didn't have any options.

Yeah. There's only, the only way you're gonna make it is if you had options. My friends that all kept a full time job and didn't give up on that job, never made it as a comic. I know. I don't know.

Colin Quinn
One who kept the full time job and then got to a certain point in time where they could retire from the job and then maintain the same level of comedy as their peers. Yeah. No one did. But a lot of people didn't make it. And they were funny.

Joe Rogan
Yeah, but they just, they, it's. It's so many. There's so many layers. I guess every job is like this, but we just know it from comedy. But, well, it's just interesting talking to someone like you that I've known for so many years.

Colin Quinn
I mean, I think I first met you 30 years ago. Yeah. It's like, yeah, we've known each other for so long. You think about how wild this ride we're on is. Yeah.

Joe Rogan
Yeah. You know, I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy. It really is. And what's crazy, what you're doing that I think is really interesting is like, you're still doing stand up, but you've also decided to do these one man shows, right.

Colin Quinn
And they're fucking amazing. Thanks. And are you, do you plan these? Like, how do you, how when you decide to make one, like, the most recent one, like, how do you do you have a theme in mind when you sit down? Do you?

Joe Rogan
Well, what happened with this thing I just did was I had a theme in mind, and it just wasn't going the way I wanted. So then I said, I saw these psychiatrists, and I go, oh, that's my theme. I want to do it in front of psychiatrists. So then the theme I, the show was built around psychology and how we've cracked up as a society based on social media and everything else to psychiatrists. So I'm performing to them, but they set the theme.

They became, they made the theme exist by me thinking about performing for them. So when you first set out to write this set, right, you decided you were going to do it in front of psychiatrists? No, I tried to do something else, and it wasn't working. And then I was gonna. The theme was gonna be.

I don't know what the theme was gonna be. Like small talk at one point, then social media, and then I happen to accidentally do a show of four sarcasm in the audience together. So I go, I kept referencing back to them. Yeah. And then suddenly I was like, that's what I want to do, a show in front of psychiatrists.

Colin Quinn
So how far into the creation of the set were you? I mean, probably 50%. Wow. But it all connects to psychiatry because it's all psychological. That's amazing.

Yeah, that's amazing. And the ones you've done before? Yeah, those are theme. Yeah. And do you, like, how do you do it?

Do you sit down and just write it all out on a computer? Do you know? I go out like, the Constitution show is a perfect example. I went every night to the creaking cave in Long Island City, and Rebecca directed it. So every night I go, because I was like, I want to do a show about the constitution.

Joe Rogan
Because I was. Everybody loves the constitution on every side of every issue. Everybody's like, constitution's a great document. So I just want to do a whole show on the constitution again. Why is it great?

And so I just would work it out of Creteon Cave all the time, just in front of four people, seven people, Rebecca will tell you. Ten people. There was never, I never did it in front of more than twelve people, probably. Wow. And eventually became the show, you know?

Colin Quinn
So you just didn't announce that you were doing it? You just kind of show up and do it? I announced it. People just didn't chop for it, really? No way.

Joe Rogan
I've never been a giant draw. I'm really a comics comic. If the whole war was comedians, I'd be the biggest. I'd be selling. That's what I'm saying, dude.

Colin Quinn
You're one of the best comics alive. Thanks. You really are. But I'm only for comedians. I'm trying to talk you into staying tonight.

I didn't really know that I needed to coax you last night. I just didn't want to bother you. No, I was just being like. I was. I would have coaxed you.

Now I know I'm gonna coax you from now on. I was being the guy that. You're in trouble. I don't care if you're tired, if you just ate. You're going on stage now.

Now I know the game. I didn't know the game. I thought you just wanted to hang out something. I didn't want to bump people. When I come to class, a lot of times I just want to hang out.

Joe Rogan
I just didn't want to bump people. I don't know. There was no pumping. I know, but I thought Ron might was coming. I thought, he's coming in.

I didn't want to be like, the guy to jump tonight. Come tonight. Maybe if I could change my flight. Let's see if I can change. We'll change it.

We'll get a guy, maybe. Tough. What's it. What? Where are you going again?

Seattle. Everybody's going to Seattle. Yeah, needles. It's a good spot. And if you get at the right time, they might take over the whole CD block.

Colin Quinn
You get to be a part of that. They did again in Portland. Did they do it recently? Another one? Portland just did another one.

Joe Rogan
They took over something. It's all over the news today. Oh, didn't get the love that that one place did. What they called again, Jamie? The zone.

Colin Quinn
Yeah, something like that. Something zone. Shaft. Chaff. Chad.

Chad. Chaz. Chaz. Yeah, Chaz. Yeah, like Chas Bono.

Yeah, that's what it was. It was like the Chaz. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Occupied protest.

Joe Rogan
It's probably the club autonomous autonomous. Fucking mayor got on tv and said, maybe it's a summer of love. Like, okay, baby, what? And then they boo him. Was he the one they bought?

And then the guy from Portland was trying to join in. They bought. They lit his house on fire. They fucking. They said, you have to resign every comedy.

Colin Quinn
Yeah. Cuz he tried to go along with them. And then he's like, you know what? This is bullshit. We need cops.

Like, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, now you know. You didn't know before you needed cops. And you're the fucking mayor.

Joe Rogan
Holy shit. Shit. Not good, kids. Well, we'll see if I can change my flight. I'll come back.

Colin Quinn
Fucking flight. God damn it. Colin Quinn. What's up, Boston. I gotta practice.

Joe Rogan
Well, there it is. 2024 cycle. Yeah. This is amazing. Yeah, it is amazing.

Colin Quinn
I love the set, too. It's fucking perfect. Yeah, that's just. That's the, you know, those gigs of the band. Oh, man, you know.

What is this on. Is this on Netflix? YouTube. YouTube. Beautiful.

And it's out right now? Yeah. It says. What is it called? Colin Quinn.

Joe Rogan
Our time is up. Our time. You know, therapists always go, our time is up. Bam. Beautiful.

Colin Quinn
That's a good name. Or should I have called it? I was gonna call it 50 minutes. Hour. They say that about therapy, too.

Joe Rogan
This guy's a therapist. You believe it? Yeah, that guy. Therapists. These guys are all therapists.

Colin Quinn
Really? Yeah. I don't know. I have to blur out my sneakers. What?

They blur out your sneakers. The brand. For real? Who blurred it out? So that, too, right?

Yeah. That's ridiculous. It looks like something's blurred out. It's not as sneakers. It's something that.

That part of the. Oh. Maybe it's the lighting or something makes. It more weird to blur it out. That's weird.

Joe Rogan
Ah, maybe it'll be good. Colin Quinn. You're the fucking man. That's. Yeah, it is the light.

Colin Quinn
It's the way the light is shining.

Oh. Looks like it's blur. It's just the box. Yeah, it's just the monitor. Thanks.

Joe Rogan
Well, I'll probably see you tonight. Hopefully. Yeah. Please come. If you guys can do it, I'll do it.

Colin Quinn
We'll make it happen. We'll make it happen. Maybe tell everybody where they can find everything you do. Quinn.com. You find me on YouTube.

Joe Rogan
That's it. Colin Quinn. Calm. On YouTube. What is your instagram?

Um. I am Colin Quinn. Okay. Beautiful. Thank you, brother.

Colin Quinn
Appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you. Very fun. Always.

Bye. Thanks.

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