What?! GOP Removes Abortion Ban from Its 2024 Platform | 7/10/24

This episode discusses the GOP's decision to remove the abortion ban from its 2024 platform, with hosts expressing strong opinions about the implications of this move for the party and the broader pro-life movement.

1. The GOP has removed the abortion ban from its 2024 platform, signaling a shift in its approach to the issue.
2. This decision is seen as a political calculation to avoid alienating suburban voters and to increase the party's electability.
3. The hosts express concern that this move could undermine the GOP's pro-life identity and alienate its core base.
4. There is debate over whether this compromise is necessary for electoral success or if it risks long-term damage to the party's values.
5. The episode highlights the tension between political pragmatism and maintaining a strong moral stance on critical issues like abortion.

1: Introduction and Context

The episode begins with an overview of the GOP's decision to remove the abortion ban from its platform. The hosts introduce the topic and set the stage for a deep dive into the implications of this move.

• "Either you believe that abortion is killing a baby, or you don't."
• "How can you do that? How can you compromise on such a fundamental issue?"

2: The Political Calculation

Discussion of the potential reasons behind the GOP's decision, focusing on the need to appeal to a broader electorate and avoid alienating suburban voters.

• "This is about getting elected. But at what cost?"
• "We have to be elected, but can we really win by abandoning our principles?"

3: Impact on the Pro-Life Movement

The hosts explore how this decision might affect the pro-life movement and the GOP's relationship with its core base, particularly evangelical voters.

• "This could be the beginning of the end for the GOP's pro-life stance."
• "Our base has been loyal, but how much more can they take?"

4: Moral Clarity vs. Political Pragmatism

A heated discussion on whether the GOP can afford to compromise on such a critical issue, with differing views on the best path forward for the party.

• "We can't win if we lose our soul in the process."
• "It's a tough call, but maybe it's the only way to survive."

5: Long-Term Consequences

The episode wraps up with speculation about the long-term effects of this decision on the GOP's identity and future success.

• "If we keep moving the goalposts, what will we stand for in the end?"
• "This is a slippery slope, and we might not like where it leads."

1. Stay Informed: Keep up with the GOP's evolving platform to understand how it aligns with your values.
2. Engage in Political Discourse: Participate in discussions about the importance of maintaining moral clarity in politics.
3. Support Pro-Life Initiatives: Consider contributing to organizations that advocate for pro-life policies.
4. Vote with Your Values: Ensure your vote reflects your stance on critical issues like abortion.
5. Encourage Accountability: Hold political leaders accountable for the promises they make regarding life issues.
6. Promote Dialogue: Facilitate conversations within your community about the importance of a consistent pro-life stance.
7. Educate Others: Share resources and information about the implications of the GOP's platform changes.
8. Advocate for Clear Platforms: Urge political parties to be transparent about their positions on fundamental issues.
9. Monitor Legislative Changes: Keep an eye on state and federal legislation related to abortion to stay informed about potential impacts.
10. Support Like-Minded Candidates: Back candidates who prioritize pro-life values in their platforms.

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) recently endorsed Joe Biden, but it sounded forced. Filling in for Glenn, Pat and Stu react to Pelosi’s lackluster endorsement and Biden’s low approval rating. How have Biden’s many examples of overt racism gone so ignored by his base? Pat and Stu discuss the RNC taking a step back from the pro-life cause and whether there’s a political calculation involved. Pat and Stu continue discussing the importance of not wavering on the pro-life position while taking calls from the audience on the issue. After taking a call from a pro-choice listener, Stu breaks down some of the inconsistencies and dangers of the pro-choice ideology. Pat and Stu discuss the latest high-level Democrats and politicians who have weighed in on Biden’s nominee status, including actor George Clooney. Pat and Stu discuss the latest updates regarding Trump’s VP choice.

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A
Welcome to the fusion of entertainment, entertainment and enlightenment.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

B
It is Patton Stuffer, Glenn.

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I guess we got some, we have some Nancy Pelosi news coming up here.

C
We sure do.

B
I can't wait, but I'm gonna have to. But just 60 seconds. We'll get to it. Coming up.

C
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B
Yeah, just to follow up on that a bit, we were gonna remodel a lot of our house and our realtor said, no, don't do it. Right, don't do it. Don't do it. You won't get your money back out of it. She did recommend, because we had, you know, countertops from 2008, so we did upgrade that. We upgraded countertops, replaced carpeting where our kids had destroyed carpeting, and then that was it.

C
That was it.

B
That's it. Saved us, you know, a lot, a.

C
Fortune and a lot, and wind up realizing you're only getting, if you get lucky, you get 70% of your money back when you do these things.

B
Exactly.

C
So they've sometimes makes sense, you know, a lot of times when you are going to live there and enjoy them for multiple years. Right. But when you're just going to do it and then sell it, and you might not have the same taste as the next person wanting to buy it.

B
That'S maybe the most critical part, because they want their touches. They want their vision for the house. So let them have it. Yeah, let them do it. We got full asking price, so congratulations.

C
That's awesome. And this just happened, right?

B
Just happened.

C
Wow.

B
We sold the house in a week, which was nice.

C
Really?

B
Yeah.

C
Cause, I mean, you hear the market's tough, the interest rates are high, but.

B
You need a good one up. That's the thing.

C
So you got the real estate realtor situation, not to mention you have a little bit of an advantage doing this in Texas.

B
That's true. Yeah. One of the fastest growing areas in the country.

C
Yeah. And Dallas in particular. This area has been, you know, very hot for real estate. But there are other areas around the country where that's true. It's just. It's easier in Texas, probably.

B
Right.

C
But. So congratulations. I will say maybe we can get a real estate agent that Joe Biden trusts as he moves out of the White House come in January.

B
Oh, I can't wait. I will pay for the move.

C
Really?

B
Yes.

If he moves out of the White House, and I'll pay to. I'll pay even more if he'll move out early. Cause that would be awesome.

But, yeah, I'll do a GoFundMe page. Whatever it takes to help him get, you know, the Mayflower truck in front of the 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

C
That is sweet. Yeah, that. You're just a sweet Jeff.

B
Just a nice guy. Right.

C
Yeah. People say. People don't understand that partisan politics get in the way. Not with Pat Gray.

B
Not in this case.

C
He will make sure he. Joe Biden gets out of that house, even if he wants to leave a little early.

B
Yes.

C
You know.

B
Yeah. We'll get him right back to Delaware.

C
Wow.

B
Yeah.

C
That's great. Where this Corvette and, you know, his ice cream parlors.

B
Is the vet parked at Rehoboth beach or is it in Wilmington? That's what I don't.

C
I think it's Rehoboth Beach. I think I could be wrong on that. But wherever it is, he can go there, you know, enjoy it. It's been interesting to watch the reaction to the last couple of days. Wherever, if you remember. Right. And maybe. Maybe I misunderstood this because it's possible, pat, like, there's so much news going on, sometimes you hear things and you don't fully get what's going on.

My understanding was we did this show on Monday, and one of the first things we did on Monday was to read a letter from Joe Biden where he very clearly indicated he was staying in the race.

B
Right.

C
That happened. Right. That was a thing we talked about. It was a thing, then we played audio. We didn't really get through a lot of it, but we got through some audio from the Joe Scarborough experience on MSNBC where the, if I remember right, the whole tone of that was Joe Biden saying, hey, I'm in this race. I'm not going anywhere. I'm the nominee. I won the primary. The debate you're all complaining about. I was on stage for it because I was the nominee. That's why. So it's my nomination.

I'm staying.

No more questions about it. Right.

B
That was, yeah, he made it pretty clear.

C
Right.

B
Yeah.

C
I don't know if Nancy Pelosi heard the show on Monday, but I hate to break this to you because I know, I feel like she listens to most of our shows.

B
Uh huh.

C
But I don't think she tuned in on Monday at all or Tuesday or any show since the debate.

B
Huh.

C
Because she seems to be very confused as to what's going on in this new clip from MSNBC. It's Nancy Pelosi and she's being asked about, about Joe Biden and whether he's going to stay in the race. And she has a different understanding of the situation than I do. Does he have your support to be the head of the democratic ticket as.

D
Long as the president has the president? It's up to the president to decide if he is going to run. We're all encouraging him to make that decision because time is running short.

I think overwhelming support of the, of the caucus. It's not for me to say I'm not the head of the caucus anymore, but he's beloved, he is respected.

C
Right.

D
And people want him to make that decision, not me.

C
Oh, he has said, he has made the decision. He has said firmly this week he is going to run. Do you want him to run?

D
I want him to do whatever he decides to do.

B
Sorry.

D
That's the way it is. Whatever he decides, we go with.

B
Wow.

C
That is not a ringing endorsement from Nancy Pelosi. It's also a lot of words that don't exist, like society. I don't know what society is. At some point, Joe Biden needs to suicide. They make fun of, or they make fun of Biden for his speech issues.

B
She's got some.

C
She's got them, too. I mean, she's getting much worse, too. I mean, this is like.

B
Sounds like she's drunk most of the time. Yeah. And I think it's just.

C
I don't know, is it age or is it. Is it alcohol? I mean, it's a morning show, actually.

B
I'm not sure.

C
I'm not sure either. I do. You know, it's weird because we've been watching these same figures the entire time we've been doing talk radio. Right. Like, the whole time it's been the same people basically in charge. I feel like we're standing, you know, and just out in the park watching Mount Rushmore sort of just melt.

It's really weird. Like, all these big figures, they just get worse and worse and worse every time you see them. You know, Mitch McConnell, Nancy Pelosi, obviously, Joe Biden and so many more. And they don't leave office.

They stay in their jobs. They just get.

It's like if, you know, Michael Jordan came back today and we had to watch him play. I mean, he probably still averaged 14 a game, but it would be tough. Like, I mean, he had Michael Jordan. He comes back, he wins all these championships, and then he came. Remember, he came back with the Wizards for a couple of years, and he was still pretty freaking good.

B
Yeah, he was.

C
He was like 40 years old. He's still scoring 20 points, points a game. But, like, you could tell there's a big drop off if he, you know, it just seems like. What if he just kept playing until he was 80? I mean, that's what it's like watching these people.

It is. They can't do the basic things that they used to do. Joe Biden was never, obviously, a great politician. He has accomplished very little in his life.

This is obvious to anyone who isn't a Democrat begging him to get out right now. Right, right now. The way to get him to. To get out of the race is to say, you've been incredible. This presidency has been incredible. This three and a half years has been the most amazing three and a half years of any presidency of all time. You are so great, Joe. Get out.

I understand that approach. You're playing up to his ego. You're trying to persuade him, but we should draw the line here, Pat.

This is not true.

B
Joe Biden, years of incredible presidency.

C
Yeah, true.

B
Yeah.

C
It's not true, huh? Joe Biden has not been a good president at all. He's been a very bad president.

B
Very bad.

C
Of evidence to support this would be the fact that he had a 36% approval rating before the debate.

B
Yeah.

C
No president, to my knowledge, give me a call. Correct me if I'm wrong, but no president in recent history has been able to recover from approval ratings like this and win the presidency. None.

Let me give you the list of the names. I'm done.

It doesn't happen.

It doesn't work.

B
Give me that list again.

C
Sure. Right here. I'm going to give you one more time.

B
Here comes some of the name.

C
Done.

B
Okay.

Wow.

C
It's an extent. That's.

B
I believe that was the extended list.

C
Extended list.

B
Okay.

C
I mean, George W. Bush did come back from a slight, you know, polling issue in this time. Now, of course, George W. Bush was nothing in his eighties when he did such a thing, but he wasn't mid.

B
Fifties, if I remember correctly, in his.

C
Prime as a politician. And he was not down as much. And it was not dealing with the types of things that Joe Biden is dealing with. I mean, it's possible to come back. It doesn't mean that this election is decided. In fact, I would argue uncomfortably close.

I mean, considering what we saw yesterday, what we didn't have see as aftermath of that debate, was a massive polling collapse for democrats.

You know, we. We didn't see that. We didn't see an 8.9 point drop. We saw three point movement, the normal movement of a blowout debate.

That, to me, was worse than a blowout debate. And there was certainly a part of me hoping that it would be even larger. It might wind up being that way. We don't, we don't know yet, um, but politicians, presidents running for reelection that want to run for reelection and have a 36% approval rating don't win reelection. That's just the way this typically works. It's not impossible. Donald Trump obviously brings some unique things to the table in an election. We've talked many, many for many years about Trump Derangement syndrome, where people, I mean, to define that generally, we're talking about irrational hatred for Donald Trump no matter what. So when you have someone who has a syndrome named after him, there's a lot of people who just will vote against him no matter what, even if his opponent is incoherent. And so that's going to make it to be a close election no matter what. I think. I don't think you're going to get even a Barack Obama John McCain type of result, which was, I think we talked about it earlier, 54 45, I think, was the number on that. If I'm remembering right, it was eight or nine points.

That's about as big a blowout as you can possibly come up with in today's politics. With people polarized the way they are, I don't think you're going to see that here.

You should.

B
It's really hard to imagine in this day and age, blowouts like we saw with Ronald Reagan, you know, who won 49 states. Yeah, I can't, can you imagine that happening today?

C
No.

B
I mean, Ronald Reagan, 49 states, including California, which, and New York, which you'd never see happen today. You'd never see that happen. Um, so, uh, yeah, it's always going to be close and, and it is too close for comfort. Even now. Even, you know, a couple of weeks after the, after the debate. Now it's two weeks on, like tomorrow already, right? It's. Man, that's gone by fast. All right, triple 8727, beck. More coming up in 1 minute.

C
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B
So let's say that Joe Biden does step aside and it, and it turns out that Kamala Harris becomes the nominee for the Democrats. Who's her vice president going to be? You know, the rumor I'm hearing is Gretchen Whitmer. You imagine two women on the ticket. I mean, it was not that long ago where there was one woman on the tech on the ticket, and that was, that didn't even happen to have two women on the ticket. We're moving down this path pretty fast now.

C
Is Geraldine Ferraro available?

I mean, I don't know if she could step up.

I just feel uncomfortable again.

Is the president alive? So, I mean, I don't know that she's any less alive than Biden.

B
That's a good point.

C
It's a. I don't buy Whitmer with, with Kamala. I don't think that would be the choice. I mean, you could. I could definitely see Newsom as a.

B
Yeah, I could see that.

C
I could see a, someone like a. I mean, you think of. Although that's California, so that would be an issue, wouldn't it?

B
Yeah, she's California. Yeah.

C
Again, those are always, those problems are real but solvable.

B
Yeah.

C
You can always get around them, but that would be an interesting one. You know, someone like a. You would probably want to go, what about a Josh Shapiro from, from Pennsylvania? I think that would be a real possibility.

He's an up and coming star. He's from the region. They need to win. They need Pennsylvania pretty desperately.

He'd be a guy I think would be, especially not needing to step into the top of the ticket. But stepping into that secondary role, I think he would be a serious consideration. A lot of this has to do, too, with, what is Kamala's relationship with these people? I mean, I have no idea.

Um, if you go by the Barack Obama rule, which is. Don't.

The Barack Obama rule, if you go back and read, you know, his heavily reported biographies, is basically like, America is a bunch of racists.

They can't take more than one exotic candidate on a ticket.

This is why you had Joe Biden on the ticket. He specifically picked him because he was old and white.

That's not like me speculating. This has been heavily reported. He picked him because he thought the american people.

B
Interesting.

C
Couldn't deal with another person of color on the ticket. They're too racist. They couldn't deal with another younger person on the ticket. They were too.

They were, you know, so he needed.

B
A racist on the ticket.

You're saying Joe bama needed a racist on the ticket.

C
What evidence do you have of Joe Biden being racist?

B
There's, you know, this, but it's, you know, not. You're not hearing.

C
I'm not hearing it.

B
No, but it's there.

C
My understanding. Yeah. Well, let's hear. Let's. Maybe you have.

B
I mean, I might.

C
Okay, well, I might have. I mean, you got the first sort of mainstream american.

B
Right?

C
Who is articulate and bright and clean.

I mean, that's a storyboard.

B
Storybook. That doesn't happen in real life.

C
Can you imagine a clean african American, what a storybook would be?

B
No. Yeah. Right.

C
Thank you, Joe Biden, for bringing that analysis to us. Because, I mean, can you imagine? We're talking also not about just a clean african American, which would be a storybook in and of itself, according to Joe. But sure.

B
Also one that could speak not articulately. Yes, sort of articulate.

C
You have an articulate.

B
I mean, not totally articulate.

C
Yes, sort of articulate.

B
That's like. That's another world. Right. But it'd be sort of articulate and clean. You're saying.

C
That's what I'm saying. You gotta keep your storybooks believable.

Right. Like, it couldn't possibly happen according to.

B
Storybook, to sci-Fi right.

C
According to the book of Joe Biden, it couldn't possibly happen. You'd have an actually articulate, clean black man. No, but in this particular situation, you have a sort of articulate, clean black man. Now, is he sort of clean, or is he fully clean and only sort of articulate?

B
Well, he does say clean. He doesn't.

C
He doesn't qualify that.

B
He doesn't qualify clean. So I think he's talking about. He might have even taken a full shower.

C
And by the way, we should point out the only reason Joe Biden is president is because of the black vote. Somehow he was able to survive that statement.

B
Yeah. And many more.

C
You have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or I Trump and you ain't black.

B
Okay.

C
He survived that.

B
Yep.

C
And he went to James Kleiber and was like, please endorse me. And he did. And now, in his moment of stress, what is keeping him in this office? The Congressional Black Caucus.

It's incredible.

B
It is incredible.

C
This man has said more overtly racist things than anybody. Obviously. Obviously more than Donald Trump, who they all say is racist, more than any presidential candidate. Going back to all, probably to LBJ.

B
It's not even close.

It's not even close. If. And you know what? LBJ's comments were in private. This guy's done it all publicly.

We actually have the clips to play now.

C
We know LBJ was a racist. However, he was saying those things not in front of the cameras. This is Joe Biden in front of cameras. Doing it.

B
Yeah.

C
Over and over and over again.

B
That's how in Delaware, blatant.

C
The largest growth in population is indian Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 711 or a Dunkin donuts unless you have a slight indian accent.

I'm not joking.

B
And he's not joking. He's actually being racist right there. He's not joking about it. No, he's serious about his racism.

C
It's great. Incredible.

B
And you've got the one where he says that unlike black people, Hispanics are diverse in their opinions. Remember that.

C
I remember that one. Yeah.

B
All blacks think alike.

C
All blacks think alike. But Hispanics actually have differences of, like, individual Hispanics might think of something different. Unlike, obviously, blacks.

B
That's what he said over and over and over. He's done this kind of stuff.

C
Yeah. And yet he is a champion, apparently, of the black community.

B
It's fine.

C
By the way, Marge, is a little bit off of my remembrance of this. It was 53 46. Barack Obama and John McCain, only a seven margin. And I think that is still about as big as you can possibly get if you want to go back to the, the days back in the Ronald Reagan, 59. Walter Mondale, 41. So, I mean, this is a totally different world. Reagan beat Carter by nine.

You know, Bill Clinton won by six, five and a half, and then he beat Bob Dole by about nine. And then since then, it's been close pretty much every single time. Even in blowout elections, there's only six or seven points.

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Stand up.

A
Glenn Beck.

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Beck, Glenn Beck, avoiding the woke mainstream messaging in favor of truth. More Glenn Beck in a moment.

Unlike the african american community, with notable exceptions, the latino community is an incredibly diverse community.

Is that true there?

B
It is.

Incredible. It's just really incredible that he got away with that. It's Patton. Stu for Glenn today. Triple 8727. B E C K. I like this political story from Politico. Trump's platform has changed the GOP's position on abortion. And it's not just abortion, but that's. That's one of the big ones. And not everyone is happy.

I would be included among. Not everyone.

C
Really?

B
Yeah, I would. I don't appreciate the fact that the republican party has just adopted Trump's newfound liberality, I guess, on abortion. I.

How can you do that?

C
Either.

B
Either you believe that abortion is killing a baby or you don't.

C
Yeah.

B
Which is it?

C
I don't really understand the middle ground on it.

B
Yeah, it's hard to understand.

C
Either you think it's gonna come out as a volkswagen.

B
Right?

C
And it doesn't matter what you do.

B
Or you think it's a human child.

C
Or you think it's a human child and you need to protect it. Kind of the two positions that make sense to me. Now, of course, the Volkswagen one doesn't make sense to me, and therefore, I don't support it. But at least morally, it makes some sense. If you believe this is just some weird alien life form that occasionally comes out as a boy or a girl, maybe you could justify not caring whether it lives or dies.

B
Or you take the, say, Bill Maher position, who does believe, actually said, yeah, it is kind of murder. In fact, it's not just kind of murder, it is murderous. But I'm okay with it. I guess you can do that.

C
We're too overpopulated. Pat. You get the population bomb out of the library. It's got a little bit of dust on it, and everything in it is wrong. But let's just still keep honoring those positions. Yeah, this is a weird one.

B
It's very weird.

C
I'm trying to think through this a little bit. I'm trying to not to be reactionary, because I happen to be someone who is very pro life, and I don't feel that equivocation is the correct response to this particular issue. You know, I have this weird vibe that maybe babies should be allowed to live.

B
That is weird. Wow.

C
I don't know where I came from.

B
In every case, though. I mean, not every case, right? Just sometimes I was thinking, like, if you feel like it and it's convenient for you.

C
No, no, no. That's actually not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is they should just have a chance to live their lives.

B
But what if it's inconvenience?

What if I'm not the CEO of a major corporation at the time?

Then I might struggle from time to time.

C
Now, this makes it much more difficult now. Still have them live.

B
Really?

C
Yeah, in all circumstances.

B
Wow, you're an extremist.

C
Children should be allowed to live.

B
What kind of right wing kook are you?

C
Yeah. And like, hey. And people will say, well, that's true. I mean, what if we lose the next Einstein or the next Michael Jordan? Or who knows what we could lose? Also, we. A person who makes no difference at all. What about the idiot who cuts you off in line at Sonic? That person also has. Deserves a chance to live.

All people.

Yeah, deserve a chance to live. If they screw their life up once they're born, that's on them. Okay, but we should be involved in maybe allowing babies to live. It's a crazy position.

B
It is. It's nutty.

C
It is. And I mean this sincerely, it is extreme because, I mean, you want to call me and Pat, you'd be on this board bandwagon as well. A pro life extremist. It's probably a fair description because our opinion is not widely held, for whatever reason.

B
It's not. That's true. I understand that we're in the vast majority minority.

C
Yes.

B
On that.

C
And I will say that seems to be the calculation of the platform.

Right. So.

B
And I think a lot of people think that's reasonable because you got to get elected. Well, Trump said it during the debate.

C
Yep.

B
We have to be elected. Well, I mean, that is true.

C
And I will say under normal circumstances, my reaction to this platform, which has plenty of good stuff in there as well, like preventing world War three. I'm on board for that. Yeah, I don't think we should have World War three. I didn't. Like one or two. No, we don't need a third one. Let's not have it.

B
Now. You weren't around for either one or two, and neither was I. So how do you know you don't like it?

C
You know, you should knock something before you try it.

B
Right, right.

C
That's a good one.

B
They're trying to get us to try this third one. Maybe it'll be better and more fun than the first two.

C
Yeah, I've noticed Democrats usually disagree with Republicans I mean, they seem to be wanting the world war three thing.

B
And weird how they flipped on that. So weird, so bizarre.

C
Now they would say, of course they don't want World War three.

B
That's what they would say is that, well, you guys were all about Iraq and Afghanistan. And I would say, yes, I was at the time. But I think I've learned something over the last 20 years of perpetual war, and I'd like to avoid that now.

C
It'll teach us some lessons.

B
Yeah.

C
Yeah. And I remain, I think, concerned with the geopolitical fallout of doing nothing in some of these situations. Like, but I will say it should be a last resort. More should be a last resort. It shouldn't be the first resort. And the situation in Ukraine and Russia is fascinating because you're right. All of the sudden Democrats are so incredibly passionate.

B
They're all about it.

C
It's all they care about now.

B
Yeah.

C
They want to be involved. They all of a sudden hate Russia after almost all of their officials went on vacations there back in the day.

I mean, this was like, this is, they all have townhouses there still. And they all of a sudden we're supposed to believe they're anti Russia.

B
Do you remember this from the 1980s.

C
Are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because, you know, the cold war has been over for 20 years.

B
I mean, that was his attitude in 2012. That was Barack Obama's attitude. Russia's not a problem.

C
Nope. They're a friend.

B
They're our friend. They're not something to be afraid of at all. You should be afraid of ISIS or whatever, but not Russia.

C
And it does sort of bother me that we highlight that clip because it is basically the best moment of Mitt Romney's career.

B
Yeah.

C
And it's frustrating to highlight it, but it is. He was right on that. He was, we said he was right at the time.

B
Yes, we did.

C
Russia is maybe not number one, but the top three. When you talk about major international threats.

B
I would say China's probably number one now.

C
Yeah, that's where I would go as well. So you look at this platform and there's a lot of good stuff in there. It's, I think, a smart decision, I think, to transform what the old school process was, which was you've got a 300 page platform that no one ever reads and no one really pays attention to and shrink it down to about 20 points that everyone can kind of generally agree on and that are consistent with the republican party ideals. So I think that process is fine.

In the summary of the 20 points. The word abortion doesn't even exist. This has been a central part of the Republican Party's ideals for a very long time.

A part of it, you know, the overturning of Roe versus Wade was the beginning of the end of abortion, if you are of the optimistic sort.

But it was also part of a 50 year legal battle, a 50 year effort to overturn one of these, one of the worst legal rulings in history.

So the fact that it would just be abandoned and there is some sort of boilerplate language in the expanded document that kind of indicates, Pat, well, we're against late term abortion.

That's good. You should be. Yeah, that's it.

B
And that's it.

C
And it says something about being generally pro life. Like, it doesn't really define that.

I just feel like I have two minds of this. Pat, tell me where, where you would land and maybe we can get calls on this. 88727 B E C K. Because it does.

It's a tough one in some ways, if you think it out. Number one, the platform, who even reads it, I think you could make the argument it doesn't mean really a thing. Number two, Donald Trump has a pretty good record on this topic. Right. Like, he, he pointed justices.

B
Yeah.

C
Who overturn, overturn rovers. Wait, something that both you and I together have said for many years would never happen.

B
Right.

C
And then it happened.

B
Yeah.

C
So how can you question the guy?

On the other hand, you know, it seems very much like it's politics here where the calculation being made this time by Donald Trump is what benefits him to be elected is to be sort of soft on this issue, to not scare suburban women away. Right. I understand that as a political calculation, maybe it's the right one.

But his calculation in 2016 was, we have weakness with evangelical Christians, uh, and others that are pro life.

We should be strong on this issue.

And that's a different position than the one he has today, seemingly. I get that. Well, they made the decision. It's going back to the states.

But I don't know. How do you, how do you work through this yourself?

B
Uh, well, I, I'm having a hard time, too. I'm struggling with it because, you know, you do have to be elected. And he said that at the, at the debate. Otherwise you got a Democrat in office again. And especially this one who is killing us. He's just killing us. And so he's making a political calculation. And, you know, a lot of people think he should on abortion. I don't think you can make that calculation on abortion. It's too important.

It's. It's too critical. And, you know, you're, again, you're either pro life or you're not. So I think there's one exception, and that's the mother's life in danger. But that almost never happens.

C
Yeah. I mean, it's pretty.

B
It never happens. It's. It's incredibly rare.

C
I mean, some doctors. Some doctors say it never happens. I mean, and it's, again, like, because.

B
You could do a c section, right?

I think that's the point, is that, well, you can deliver the baby still. You don't have to.

C
You have to deliver the baby.

B
Yes.

C
You have no choice. Eventually you have to deliver it. It's just whether you're going to try to deliver it alive or dead. I. Right, right. Again, like there is with that particular one, it can get a little messy. So. But again, it's still a difficult decision for anyone. You're just choosing one life for another, and, like, how do you deal with that? But this is what it gets. Winds up happening with these debates. You get to sidetrack just the .001% of possibilities.

At the end of the day, if we just saw both Donald Trump and JD Vance, who is one of the leaders for the. For VP, go on television and say they're pretty much okay with MIfa Preston, which is like, that's. We're talking right now, about 60% to 70% of abortions are going with the abortion pill.

B
Right.

C
You know, if these. These things that are tossed out there, like, oh, well, what about 15 week ban? Well, you're allowing 95% of abortions to occur with a 15 week bandaid. These are not pro life positions. No, they're more pro life than AOC.

You know, if that's your standard, I guess you're hitting it. But, like, a pro life standard is trying to stop abortions. Even a six week ban allows 40% of abortions to occur.

B
Wow.

C
I mean, that is. Is that a pro life position? It's half pro life.

B
And the abortion pill thing, I don't even understand how you can be okay with that.

I. How can you if you're pro life? I mean, I understand it if you're pro abortion. I don't understand it from the republican party standpoint, and I don't get it.

C
So.

B
But again, maybe we're too extreme on this.

C
Yep, I. Very possible. Do you care, first of all, that it's not in the platform, number one. And number two, do you understand the calculation here? 888727 beck, is it okay? Are you okay with it?

I mean, if you're like, AOC and you're like, I want to have 14 abortions next week. That's not really the person I'm looking to hear from. I want someone who's pro life, and it's like, okay, look, I just trump. I think it's totally fair to just say, look, I just trust Trump on this, and he has to be elected. He's got a good record and he's got to be elected.

B
Yeah. More coming up.

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Pat and stu for Glenn this week.

Triple 8727 Beck, are you okay with the compromise the Republican Party is making in their platform on abortion? Actually, the abortion issue doesn't really figure into the platform much at all, does it? You said they, they just kind of, in passing, mentioned that they're generally pro life.

C
The main summary that they released does not mention the word abortion at all. And there's nothing about it at all in the expanded 16 page version. It does in passing mention it and only says they're against late term abortion.

B
It just shows how frightened off they've been by the outcry of the Democrats. Yep, it's worked really well.

C
It has. And it worked really well. I still don't necessarily believe you're winning or losing this election based on that, that law.

B
But you've said before, even if you do lose it, though, is this an issue worth losing an election? Overdose.

C
It's a tough one.

B
It is a tough one. Yeah, it really is. Let's go to Liz in New York. Hey, Liz, you're on the Glenn Beck program. Patents, too.

F
Hi. Thank you for taking my call.

So I called in because I was raised by a single mother, very liberal Democrat, who was an activist, but yet also told me abortion was my God given right as a woman. It somehow made what I now term sexual immorality, you know, made me equal to a man. I could walk away from a pregnancy just as easily as a man could.

I ended up getting well. I got married. I had my first kid. With our second child, though, there was a problem with the pregnancy. And I remember we were in the car, both of us debating in our own heads. We were both pro choice at the time. And I wanted this baby. I wanted this baby. So I'm going to get emotional. I wanted this baby. And then one of us said, I think we should have him. And the other one, we shut tears and everything so we have this wonderful. He's now 15 years old. He has special needs, and I wouldn't change a damn thing.

He makes my life perfect, along with my older child, of course. But I also started at that time listening, because how do you, when you're pro choice and then you make this decision to have this baby and this is the life we live? I started really listening to some of the pro life arguments, and some of them I just didn't have a good answer to. And as a pro choice person, that's what started to change my mind. I now consider myself pro life.

And while I am not, I'm not comfortable with the Republicans saying, well, we're okay with it, you know, at this point or that point. You're right. I agree with you guys that you're either okay with killing a baby or you're not. Yeah, but if we, if we don't allow haliwe, like, I feel like this is a long process. It's going to be a long process of the pro life movement really working with people and doing things like those sonograms and showing mothers there are, it's really important.

C
And we think we're out of time. But thank you for your call. We're going to have more on this here in a second.

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Compromise.

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B
With Pat and Stu. So we've been talking about the republican platform and how they've just adopted Trump's position on everything. And is that when it comes to abortion, is that okay with you? I think Stu and I admittedly are maybe a little more extreme on this than many people pro life wise.

But what do you think? Yes, Republicans have to get elected, and this is a time tough one.

Do you think you compromise on being pro life? Triple 8727 Beck? We'll get into that in your calls in 1 minute.

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All right. Triple A, 727. Beck, with your thoughts.

You know, just how, how important is being pro life to you?

To me, it's pretty important. I mean, it's, is there a more important issue than this then life?

I don't think so.

C
We have, we do have a situation where tens of millions of people should be alive that aren't.

B
Yeah.

C
Well, that's a big one.

B
Yeah.

C
It's hard to, and that's just in the US.

B
It's 64 million. Here.

It is over a billion worldwide.

That's staggering. Now, on the left, they're fine with that because we're overpopulated to begin with, according to many of them. But, I mean, every person on this earth could fit on the island of Maui.

Every person on Earth. I mean, you'd be a little bit crowded.

C
Yeah.

B
If all.

C
It'd be like a concert.

B
Billion of us got there, but, yeah. Yeah. I mean, shoulder to shoulder.

Can you imagine if you just stretched that out to Texas? We'd all have some room.

C
Mm hmm.

B
Let alone spreading us out over the entire face of the planet. I mean, I don't know how many people you can fit on this earth and how many we can feed, but it's a lot. It's more than we have now.

C
I mean, if you're a person of faith, I tend to come to the conclusion unlimited. Unlimited. Basically, as many. And you know what? I'd like to have more.

B
Yeah.

C
I think, you know, having people on Earth is a good thing.

B
When you've lost over a billion people worldwide, you just wondered, gosh, would one of them have cured cancer? It's possible, right?

C
It is. I mean, well, we know one of them is Joe Biden promised he was going to do it. So that's going to happen any day now. You can check if it's done right now. By the way, has Joe Biden cured cancer.com? oh, has Joe Biden cured cancer.com?

B
I don't know. I'm not there right now.

C
Biden cured cancer die because he did promise. Now, one of the first things you'll see on the video is the video of Joe Biden during the campaign promising that he would cure cancer if elected. So this is not just us saying, well, this is a crazy campaign promise. I've heard no one ask him about this campaign promise. No one. But the question, has Joe Biden cured cancer.com?

B
The answer now is no. Oh, wow.

C
Cancer still exists as of Wednesday, July 10.

B
Dang it.

C
Darn it. You're so close.

B
So close and yet so seemingly far away. Let's go to Patty in Connecticut. Hey, Patty, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.

G
Patty, thank you for taking my call and covering this very important subject. I actually am pro life. I'm a former critical care nurse, registered nurse, and I worked for about five, six years in an Ob GYN office. And it actually enlightened me to where they're coming from and what people are thinking. You know, I think people are in impossible situations sometimes and they anguish over it. They don't want to, but their situations are so constrictive that they are not able to afford a child and don't have any support systems in place. I would think we would benefit a lot for looking for solutions, having women's center with counseling, with options, with people who sit down and trying to steer people for abortions, talk to people and see what we can do for them to actually facilitate them being able to have the life. And people are tormented later in their life over decisions when they have had abortions. So it stays with people, but many. And if they had free ultrasounds, offer them women's centers, with healthcare, with counseling, with options and the ultrasound. The sonogram is so very important and it connects them with their child in life, and it will actually, I think, actually remedy a lot of it. We have to realize that we haven't been indoctrinating people for decades now, and we have conditioned them to accept this. They know inside their heart they don't want to, but they've made it okay because they've actually had family members and others who've been forced in the same positions.

And this is what they chose to do. They do carry the burden and they carry the loss.

So we need to actually help women, help them make decisions that will best benefit their life, the future of this country, and the life of that child, and put them on better notes, offer support instead of just ending the life of a child.

C
Patty, thank you very much.

B
Could have been a pre born commercial.

C
I was going to say that. Exactly. It sounds like a preborn commercial, by the way. Preborn. This is not a paid commercial, but that is exactly what they do. And they're doing it all over the country. That's one of the reasons we've partnered with them. They're a fantastic organization.

B
Phenomenal.

C
That is doing almost.

B
And they really, they really care.

C
Yes.

B
And they don't just talk the women into having, carrying the baby full term. They also help afterwards, up to two years after.

C
So, so the question, kind of a difference slightly, of what Preborn's doing and what Patti's suggesting is she wants the government to be a little bit involved or maybe the Republican Party, that, to be fair to the republican platform, that is sort of indicating, um, indicated in the platform, they have language in there that says basically to try to come up with some way of supporting mothers who are in these tough times that have to make these tough decisions so that they don't make the wrong one. They do sort of refer to that in the expanded document a little bit. They basically say no late term abortion and we should support moms after birth or something. You know, there's some sort of language like that. I think that's a good idea. I don't know necessarily. Of course, as a person who likes small government, I don't necessarily love all the stuff. I like what Preborn's doing better, but that's a rational thing. You have to give.

Do everything you can to make these decisions more easily for moms.

B
Show them the alternatives, like adoption, for instance. Yeah.

All right. Chris in Indiana. Hi. Go ahead.

H
Hi.

B
Hi.

H
We've been wanting to overturn road for, what, 50 years now. Now that it's done and the states can make their own laws, here comes the pro life movement, wanting to get the federal government involved again.

I think that's a bad strategy. I think that provokes the exact opposite opposite of what we want. I think it's much more likely to have a pro choice nine month bill passing through Congress and signed by some president than it is for a pro life bill. And I just think it's a bad strategy. I'm pro life. I can't think of anything more sinful or ugly than abortion or selfish, for that matter. But I just think it's a bad strategy. Thank you very much.

C
Thank you. Appreciate that.

B
And I think, although I'm not saying that, right, it shouldn't go to the states.

It should.

C
I'm just saying the republican platform is a statement of beliefs and principles, foundational beliefs, and it also can have policy.

To me, the way to get rid of abortion in the country legally is actually not a national abortion ban. It is a constitutional amendment barring the practice. That used to be, by the way, put up by Republicans all the time. And yes, it would fail, but so keep putting it up there until it succeeds.

B
We all, we, especially us, thought Roe v. Wade would always be intact, right? We never thought the Supreme Court would overturn Roe v. Wade, and that happened. So.

C
Right.

B
Maybe one day the constitutional amendment could happen.

C
Go back to the days where you'd look at polling on gay marriage and the left would be like, all right, we want gay marriage. And everyone would be like, huh, gay marriage. It's got like 12% support. Good luck with that, buddy.

Legalizing marijuana is another one like that. In fact, go back long enough and you'll find interracial marriage with 4% support in this country. Right. Obviously, you'd be starting at a much higher level for a constitutional amendment for abortion. It would be really hard. It's supposed to be really hard to amend the constitution, but a worthwhile endeavor. Endeavor, I think.

B
Absolutely.

Kevin in North Carolina. Hi.

I
Yes. So where is compromise actually gotten the Republicans or the conservatives? As a movement being one of them, I would have thought that we would learn by now that they keep moving the marker, the other side keeps moving it little by little by little.

If you look at the abortion issue to begin with, we keep hearing about rape and incest. Rape and incest. Well, what percentage of abortions are actually related to rape and incest?

C
Almost not.

B
Yeah, it's very tiny.

I
It's more about making money.

B
This is a business.

I
There's a lot of people that make a lot of money off baby killing, and I just think that it's solid. We shouldn't move on. Some people may differ with that, but being a father of three young children, my older is oldest is six.

To me, I don't see any movement on this, because if you move on this, then you're going to move on everything else. You're going to move on gun rights, you're going to move on all these different topics, and that's just how, you know, I feel about it. I mean, I'm sure you could get 50 different opinions, but for me, I think my Republicans as a whole, we're weak and it's because we keep, we keep bowing to this sort of stuff like, okay, yeah, we won't do that. Oh, you're right. We need to back off.

B
Yeah.

C
Why? Yeah. And it's, yeah, it's interesting because I think, thanks, Kevin. The left, the leftist activists don't bend on this stuff, right? Never. They say what they want.

B
Never.

C
They keep going for it until they get it, and they keep going and going and going. That being said, Barack Obama ran for president saying he was against gay marriage when obviously he wasn't. Right.

B
Yeah.

C
So the second time he wound up changing that. But in 2008, he ran for president and made a pragmatic decision, I guess. I mean, I'm trying to argue the other side here a little bit, but like, you know, if you're thinking about politics, maybe that was the right decision. He wound up getting it done, you know? So I think you can argue that to me. I would just have liked, I don't necessarily think you need to dive into every policy that's going to, how you're going to do this. You know, what you're going to do in each state. What I think, I think would have been nice is a message of moral clarity that every life deserves a chance at living. You know, that is, you don't necessarily need to dive into every little bit of policy. But it is, it's disconcerting that, you know, they're really clear about men being in women's sports, which, look, we're, I'm passionate about. That shouldn't happen.

B
Me too.

C
But it's way less important than abortion. It's not even close.

If, look, let's be honest about it. I didn't care at all about women's sports before Caitlin Clark anyway. If men dominated all of women's sports, eh, I'd probably shrug my shoulders a little bit with the only exception if I have a daughter. So now I kind of care if this happens to her. But women's sports to me, not foundational american stuff.

And I love, again, I do actually care about that issue. I don't want to blow it off, but compare it, comparing it to a life not being able to live, it's just not close. And that's in the platform. They're really morally clear about when not being in women's sports. That's in the platform. We can't be clear about abortion.

B
It's amazing. It's despicable. Really. It really is. Because, you know.

Yeah, there's a big difference there. A big, big difference. All right. You got a trophy.

A man got a trophy in a woman's sport.

C
It's bad or.

B
Yeah, it's bad bad. It's irritating.

C
It is.

B
But it's not the death of a baby.

C
It is not.

B
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It's Patton, Stu, for Glenn this week. I think part of the problem is that for years we were told, hey, don't, don't even talk about abortion, okay? This is too controversial. It's too divisive.

And you're not going to get anywhere with anybody anyway. You're not going to convince anybody to be pro life who's not, and you're not going to convince anybody to be pro choice who's pro life. So just don't talk about it. And we went along with that and we believed it. We were like, yeah, okay, all right, you're right. That's probably too divisive.

And so year after year after year, it got worse and worse and worse because the left completely controlled the discussion. And then finally when we jumped in and we got a president who believed in the cause, at least to a certain extent.

And, and put in three supreme court justices who were absolutely pro life. And he kind of was okay with the litmus test on that, too. The left has always been okay with, well, are you pro choice?

And for the left, if you weren't pro choice, you couldn't be a Supreme Court justice.

So I think Trump kind of went along with that theory. Just the opposite.

And you had to have a litmus test that you were pro life.

C
Yeah.

B
And he did. And it, and it got Roe v. Wade overturned.

C
Incredible, incredible success we thought could never happen. And it's probably defensible to just say, look, the platform doesn't mean that much. And Donald Trump has a good record on this topic. Just trust him. Once he gets in office, he'll be the same guy. And that's probably true.

B
Right?

C
Like, he'll probably be pro life. I am concerned that he just seems very nervous about it.

B
Yeah.

C
You know, he doesn't seem as, you know, strong as he was when he ran the first time.

Look, it's, it's risky. It's a, I've talked to a lot of real conservatives who actually are pro life people who really care and just say, look, this is toxic right now. Politically, it's a problem. People are losing elections. Good people who actually are pro life are losing elections over this. And we just can't make it the focus this time.

B
Where's our friend Dan on this? Dan Andros, who is one of the most pro life people I know.

C
Oh, I mean, he's definitely on our side. He's insane.

B
Yeah. He's not saying, yeah, you need to moderate your position on this.

C
It's just tough to moderate when you're talking about children's lives. I don't know. I mean, I can understand political calculation, and I think the correct position for a politician is probably, look, we want there to be, no, we want, we're pro life. We will take each step that we can take so that fewer children are, have their lives expired in this way. Right. That doesn't mean we're going to get everything right now. We're not going to get the constitutional amendment that Stu wants. It's not going to happen. At some point it might. And we should take every bit of ground we can get as it goes towards that direction. But, like, right now, what we can probably get is the states and improve the state laws. That's probably what we can get right now. It's a rational position.

B
Let's go to Gary in North Carolina.

Hey, Gary, welcome.

H
Hey, just really quickly, if they pass this and they put that in there, then the answer is no. It's a line I'm not going to cross. I'm not going to vote for Trump, will not vote for an RNC candidate that supports that.

I just won't. We keep yielding ground.

North Carolina. Both our senators in 2022 voted for the Save the Marriage act. And so my centers are getting progressively more left and conservative. And I'm just, I'm tired of the, yeah, we'll put you in, you'll change, and then you just drift to the left instead of stand firm on issues that are very clear. And so if they cross this line on abortion, then, no, I won't vote for them.

C
It's interesting. Thank you, Gary, for the call. Even if you listen to Gary and you say, gosh, you can't, we're not going to vote for Donald Trump. Like, this is going to be terrible.

Like, the party needs to hear those voices. Those people do exist. And, you know, people who are super passionate about this topic and will not bend on it in a close election, they really matter.

And so I think there is a.

B
Way, and in a state like North Carolina. Yeah.

C
Which is. Yeah, there is a way, I think, to make those people feel comfortable without blowing up, you know, every suburban, you know, mom from the Donald Trump campaign. Like, I understand.

I know I'm not gonna get everything I want on this. I get it. I get it. I know I'm not gonna be pleased. I got it.

But I think you can do something for these people who, by the way, have been the foundation of the party for the past 50 years.

You can't just blow them off completely.

It's a very risky strategy if you do that.

B
That, yeah, I mean, the RU 486 thing, maybe that's the biggest issue for me because that's where most abortions come from now.

C
Especially now, you know, first, I mean, especially when you have access in these areas, you know, being cut off by good, sensible laws.

They are now just shipping these things in from India. They're just getting the pills shipping from India and like that. Well, okay, that doesn't necessarily all that.

B
Long ago, where RU 486 wasn't even legal in America, I don't know, 15 years, 20 at the most.

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Wow.

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We go through that. I talked to. I talked to a guy who got a perfect score on the air traffic control test and did not get a job because his racial answers did not line up to what I mean, his skin was the wrong tone. Basically, I go through the whole thing with him.

B
Wow.

C
And I talked to him. He's suing the government over this incredible. Like, not to mention how broken down the infrastructure is when it comes to air traffic control. To the extent that they are literally, to this day, it is what year? 2024.

They are still using floppy disks.

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What?

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In 2024?

A lot of the stuff.

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I barely even remember what a floppy disk is.

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Right?

I couldn't believe it. I was talking to this guy, an expert in this field. He's like, yes, here it is. He shows me the documents. They still do. Handwritten logs of flights.

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So we've been talking about the republican platform and how it barely mentions anything about abortion.

So a little strange.

And are you okay with it? Are you okay with compromise on this particular issue? Let's go to William in Kentucky. Hey, William.

H
Hey, how are you guys today?

B
Good.

H
First time caller.

We appreciate it, but I am perfectly okay with the new platform.

B
Okay.

H
I am just, you know, I'm agnostic, so I'm kind of straddle a fence on where life begins. I know you guys believe.

I'm assuming you believe life begins at a conception and. And I'm not there. Yeah, I. I have no idea when life begins.

And I am perfectly okay with compromising, to an extent, late term abortion. I'm absolutely opposed, but I think first trimester abortion is perfectly reasonable.

Not me personally. I am pro life. I would never want any of my children to have an abortion.

I would not do it. If anyone came to me and asked me about it, I would give them the pro life spiel.

B
I can tell you feel strongly about it.

C
Spiel?

B
What do you mean, pro life spiel?

Okay, so you wouldn't err on the side of caution then, necessarily? William?

H
I lean more towards the woman's right to choose, because I believe if there is a God, if there is a God and life begins at conception and it's a sin against God, I feel God will sort it out at the end.

C
Well, God can sort out late term abortions, too, and also murders when you're 45 years old, right? I mean, God's gonna sort all that out. You don't really have a choice on that stuff.

No. It's interesting. Cause I think, you know, I think it's.

To me, it's pretty clear. But I can. A lot of people have these issues of figuring these lines out. I would just appeal to your sense of. There's a lot of things. I don't know, a lot of things that I'm not an expert in. And when I have the opportunity to err on the side of life, if I'm admitting I'm not sure, like, if I don't know where that line is, why would I make the line later?

I would think you'd want to protect life. And I think if we think about this in a way of just doing what we can to consider the person who we all know will be a person. Right. Like, this is not like, it's not like it's not going to be a fern. This is eventually going to be a human being. If we can kind of think about what this is, because I will say, william, and I really, seriously, legitimately appreciate your call in explaining this, because you are in probably the majority. I think the majority does support first term abortion. Second and third term, it's not even close. Overwhelmingly, Americans oppose it. First term is not that way. And I think it's because. I don't know. You don't see the picture, really, on the. On the ultrasound. It doesn't really look like a baby yet and all that.

B
But you do know the woman's right to choose thing has been really compelling to people.

Well, okay. Yeah. And I agree you should choose on your own body, but there's another body at at stake here.

And that's the one inside of you. That's a separate body with separate DNA and, uh, separate limbs and eyes and ears and a brain and a heart and all these things that matter. Yeah. If you're saying only the woman can choose and it's between her and her doctor, well, but you're just completely discounting the other body inside.

Right. And to me, that is so wrong.

C
We lost William there. But I think, you know, it comes down to, if you're going to have a middling position on this, right? You have to pick a day, you have to pick a moment, you have to pick a second where this turns from something that's totally fine into a crime, right? It turns from something that is just a clump of cells into a human body that is. The life is ending. If you're like a person says, okay, that's. That's seven months. Whatever it is is. Well, why isn't it, you know, six months and 31 or 30 days, why isn't it?

You're gonna have to give me. You're going to have to draw a second where that clock ticks and that turns from nothing into a life.

That decision's really easy when you make it at conception. It's not easy. And to be frank, doesn't make any sense to put that at three months or four months or 15 weeks or six weeks, like a lot of people.

B
Now put it at 21 weeks because that seems to be when. When the fetus is viable.

C
That's.

B
That was when the baby can survive outside the womb.

C
Today it is. Right. It was 24, 25, 26 weeks when they did roe versus womb.

B
Right. It could be changed next year.

C
Exactly.

B
We don't know.

C
And at the end of the day, it doesn't make any sense to make that determination because what you're doing is you're. I mean, I thought about this with, what was the guy in Philly, the guy who went to prison? Abortionist.

B
Yeah.

C
Grover.

B
Wasn'T it? Yeah.

C
Look that up and we'll figure it out. I can't remember his name off the top of my head. It should be one that's in. And I could feel Abby Johnson, who's incredible on the life issue, yelling the name at the radio right now. So I apologize for not remembering this monster's name. Luckily, he's no longer in our lives. He's. He's been put away for a very long time.

But what's fascinating about his story was many of the abortions he, Kermit Gosnell Kermit. I knew it was a weird name. Kermit Gosnell.

B
I had the wrong Sesame street character. I went, Grover.

No, it was Kermit.

C
And I almost blamed Grover Norquist for this. He is not guilty of these crimes. It is. It is Kermit Gosnell. And what's fascinating about that, a lot of people are like, gosh, that was the worst thing I've ever seen. This man was taking babies and killing them late term, ripping them out and ending their lives.

Many of the abortions that he committed, the murders he committed, happened a week after the deadline.

B
Yeah.

C
Meaning if he had done this stuff a week earlier, he's not in prison. He's at a country club with a Porsche.

Right.

Why? What kind, what sane society would do this? Throw a guy in jail for 50 years for a two or three day time period where he does the exact same thing? That makes no sense at all.

And I think the problem here, when you're talking about this, at some level, government has to make these sort of indiscriminate lines, but morally, we certainly don't have to make them. And, look, it's just not about choice.

To put this last, and we have a million calls on this. We'll get to them here in a second. It's not about women's choice. This is not a women's choice issue in any way, because frankly, if you talk to any. If God came down today and came on the air and just came into this third chair we have here was like, hello, Pat and stew, and said, by the way, I really appreciate all the stuff you say about abortion, but actually, I don't care. It's not a big deal to me if until they come out of that birth canal, basically it means nothing to me. So I appreciate where you guys have been, but honestly, you don't have to care about that other life anymore because it's not life. Let's just say it happened. It's not gonna happen. Let's just say it happened. If it happened, none of us would care.

You could go ahead. Abort. Abort. Aboard.

E
Aboard.

C
Abort. If it's not life, I don't care if you abort it.

Secondarily, if it is life. If God came down to liberals and said, this is whatever their God is, came down to liberals and said, hey.

B
Well, it'd be Gaia.

C
It is Gaia. Gaia comes down and says, hey, liberals, I know what you've been saying about the whole, hey, you can kill children in the womb thing, but, wow, that really matters to me. You can't. That's real life in there. In theory, you would assume every liberal would say, holy crap, it is murderous.

Well, then, of course, we don't want it to happen.

The point is only about the life in the womb. It is not about women's choice at all. The women, the woman going through this is incredibly important. And it's why you have, you know, we talk about supporting them after the birth. We talk about helping them through these decisions. It is incredibly important and not easy. You know, God forbid you go through one of these terrible scenarios that ends in a pregnancy. Not easy at all. At the end of the day, it's about the decision is made about the life. Conservatives, if it was just removing a few cells, a clump of cells that we did not think was life, we wouldn't care. No conservatives like I, I oppose women's rights to remove tumors. Like, there's no conservative with that position. Cause it's not about women's choice. It's about the other life.

B
Right. Exactly right.

C
All right. I've been right to you.

B
More of your calls coming up.

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Patents do for Glenn let's, let's go to Kent in Utah. Hey, Kent, you're on the Glenn Beck program with patents, too.

H
Thank you. Happy to be here.

I wanted to let you know from my position on abortion is I am wholly against it. I think it's as you guys have described. I think it's murderous. I think it's the sin of our generation.

That being said, as we listened to the discussion today, it reminds me of the negotiations that the delegates had during the signing of the Declaration of Independence, where there was a paragraph in there about slavery.

And as the days became, as it became time to approve or not the Declaration of Independence, John Adams, I believe, was vehemently against removing the paragraph. But if he had not done so, it would never have been approved.

B
Well, it wouldn't have been approved unanimously.

C
That's true.

B
There were two states opposing it, which.

H
Was required to have it pass.

And so the step the men took, I believe, was to concede their values in some way against slavery. They get the independence first and then.

B
Yes, and then fight that battle later, which they did with the death of 700,000 Americans.

C
I don't know if I would necessarily put that on my top of my resume for decisions all time.

Didn't necessarily turn out. But, I mean, like, I think it's a rational argument that pragmatism is real.

It's not all just people folding for their own personal benefit.

B
Sometimes you have to do these things, things.

C
You know, sometimes I. It's not where I stand on it, but I do understand why people are there. And I've talked to, you know, real conservatives who really think, like, look, they.

And I think there's a reason to believe as well that maybe Donald Trump gets in there. He's walking these lines for politics now, and he gets in there, and he is the same guy he was in 2016, which obviously turned out pretty well for pro life causes.

So, I mean, I think that's a totally defensible position. I just wish there was a little bit more, you know, a little bit more for in the platform. That being said, maybe nobody cares about it.

Maybe it's just like. It's just meaningless and no one ever reads them anyway, and why should we bother? Who cares? I just. It's kind of an important issue, Patty.

Important one to me, too.

B
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It's over now. It's over.

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Yeah.

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We do still have some wide ranging and interesting takes on the abortion issue that we'll, we'll get to here in a few minutes. But we got to get this breaking news to you because it's that important.

C
For those of you wondering whether you should be supporting Joe Biden to step down as the nominee or supporting him as remaining the nominee, we now have our answer.

B
We know what you've been waiting for. You've been waiting for the decider to speak on this. And, and he has.

C
Now he has.

B
He has.

C
George Clooney has announced his position.

B
So it's overdeveloped.

C
It's over now one way or the other.

B
It's over.

C
We played you a very suspicious announcement from Nancy Pelosi earlier on the program. We have that handy. By any chance? Listen to this is bizarre because Joe Biden came out and has been saying all week, I'm not going anywhere.

B
Now almost. It'll be two weeks tomorrow. Yeah, he's been saying it the whole time over and over and over and over again.

C
And starting Monday, really put the full court press on this. I releasing a letter. I am staying in every speech. I am staying in. And we have not heard much from Nancy Pelosi on this topic. We finally did hear from her on MSNBC today, specifically challenged on what she thinks should happen. Here's what she said, does he have your support to be the head of.

D
The democratic ticket as long as the president has the president? It's up to the president to decide if he is going to run to society. We're all encouraging him to make that decision because time is running short.

The, I think, overwhelming support of the, of the caucus. It's not for me to say I'm not the head of the caucus anymore. But he's beloved. He is respected.

B
Is he?

D
And people want him to make that decision.

C
He has said, he has made the decision.

B
He has said firmly multiple times he.

C
Is going to run. Do you want him to run?

D
I want him to do whatever he decides to do. And that's, that's the way it is. Whatever he decides, we go with.

B
Well, yeah, he, he already said he decided.

C
That's amazing.

B
It is amazing. I mean, take a side on that.

C
You have to, it's so, it's so awkward and so intentional.

B
Yeah.

C
She is cold as ice.

Cold as ice, man. You know, she, man, she's a machine, even in her age that she can't say decide anymore. She's still a cold blooded political machine.

D
It's up to the president to decide to society.

C
It really is up to the president, to society. Now George Clooney does not even address.

B
What Nancy Pelosi says.

C
The society of the president. No, but we have seen another major official come out as well, of TMZ. He kind of cornered George Stephanopoulos. This is after the interview and everything, and asked him, hey, like, what do you think about, it's amazing that he.

B
Would think Stephanopoulos knew he was being recorded.

C
But I mean, how do you not know?

B
You're, you're a big time news anchor. You're supposedly a journalist. You got to be careful with that stuff. Right? But he wasn't.

C
No. The question was, do you think Biden should step down? You've talked to him more than anybody else has lately. And George's response was, quote, I quote, I don't think he can serve four more years.

B
Now, he's apologized for that. Why would you apologize for your opinion on that?

C
Or he's apologized for telling the truth the first time he's ever done it. So now he's very nervous. He's lost his entire character of lying and he's telling the truth.

It's a fascinating thing because, you know, who else knows that he won't serve four more years? All humans.

B
Yeah.

C
All human beings know this is not possible. He's not going to make it to 87 years. Old in the White House, that's not going to occur.

But George Clooney is out, Pat, and he says this a new headline op ed for the New York Times, which has really been leading the charge on this stuff from the beginning. Interestingly, he says, I love Joe Biden, but we need a new nominee by George Clooney.

B
Holy cow.

C
Now you might say. Okay, again, George. George Clooney is a very prominent actor. Huge fundraiser, though, for the Democratic Party. That's, that's the important thing.

B
And he just held a massive fundraiser for him I, that I think they took in the most money in a single night ever.

C
He mentions this. Yeah. Last month, I co hosted the single largest fundraiser supporting any democratic candidate ever a month ago.

B
Jeez.

C
For President Biden's reelection. Yeah.

B
It was like 30 million in one night.

C
Mm hmm. He says, I love Joe Biden as a senator, as a vice president and a president, I consider him a friend. I believe in him, believe in his character, believe in his morals. In the last, it's just incredible. I don't know how you could believe in that. In the last four years, he's won. I mean, the guy did have a tequila company. Maybe he's drunk writing this. I believe in his morals. In the last four years, he's won many of the battles he's faced, but the one battle he cannot win is the fight against time.

Wow.

B
That was beautiful. Beautifully put.

C
None of us can, Pat.

B
Okay.

C
It's devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three.

B
Devastating.

I'm devastated.

C
I'm devastated.

B
Yeah.

C
The Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fundraiser was not the Joe big effing deal Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020.

B
So he's. No, he's admitting that he noticed the decline when he was with him before the debate. Oh, my gosh. That's interesting to me.

C
This is an interesting nugget.

B
You raised $30 million for the guy, and now, only now imagine a month later, we're hearing that he wasn't in good, good shape.

C
Can you imagine being one of these donors? You just got bilked out of $30 million, and they're just like, oh, yeah. By the way, we knew the whole time he had no chance of being president. Listen to the way he phrases this.

B
Wow.

C
It's devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fundraiser was not the Joe big effing deal Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate.

B
That's huge.

C
Huge. So it was not a one time thing.

E
Wow.

C
He is saying.

B
Which we all know.

C
But of course, I mean, this is silly.

B
Come on.

C
But he's admitting it. He's admitting that he saw it. Oh, he goes on. He says, was he tired? Yes. A cold, maybe. But our party leaders need to stop telling us that 51 million people didn't see what we just saw.

B
And that, I mean, what a reinforcement that a guy who's this big, an ally of Joe Biden, enough to hold this fundraiser and talk all of his Hollywood big shot friends into donating up to $30 million. Not a piece, but collectively, it's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. I mean, if you, if you've ever done a fundraiser, you know, they're not easy, you know, even for great causes.

C
Let alone crappy causes like this one.

B
Yeah. So $30 million is raised, and you've got this guy who raised it saying, yeah, he. He's bad. He's in bad shape. Yeah, he can't continue.

This is not the same dude that people think they voted for in 2020. That's incredible. That's huge to me. Wow.

C
Yeah. And I think, look, the Clooney thing is big. That Pelosi clunk.

B
And the Pelosi thing is massive. Yeah.

C
Because this is someone in leadership basically saying, hey, Joe, what was your answer on that? You should think about it again and answer again.

B
Well, that's what she's saying without saying it.

C
Right. She's saying, you're wrong, Joe. Think about it again.

B
Cause it's not like she didn't hear him say it. She knows he said it.

C
And he, the host states it right back to her face. I mean, she is basically telling. That's basically her saying publicly step down and to the point where she's so old and also can't speak. She says he has to decide whether he's going to step down. She's incoherent, too.

D
It's up to the president to decide.

C
It is.

B
It's a combination, I think, of secede and decide.

C
Decide, I think perhaps, or it's just a drunk slur.

B
Decide and succeed. I don't know.

C
You're giving her too much credit. I think she's just hammered. But I will say that that is. That's significant. And I am, if I am Joe Biden, I don't care what Joe George Clooney says or what Nancy Pelosi says. It's my nomination.

B
I probably care what more about what George Clooney says, right? Well. Cause, yeah, you're voting Nancy Pelosi. Pesi. Cause he's the big fundraiser. Nancy Pelosi is not doing squat for you.

C
I would just get angry at Pelosi. Right? Like, screw you. You're 100 years old, too, right?

I mean, she older than him? I want to say she's older than him. Am I wrong?

B
I think she is.

C
She is.

B
I think she is. She 83?

C
I want to say she's 83 now. She did step down from leadership. She's 84.

B
Wow.

C
She did not. She did step down. I mean, she's older than Mitch McConnell, Joe Biden, and Donald Trump by significant margins.

She did step down from leadership, but not because she said she was incapable of doing the job and she kept a seat. She has nothing to speak for. I mean, it's insanity that she's doing this now. Part of this is because I really want Joe Biden to remain the nominee. And that's probably somewhat revealing to Democrats who might be listening as to what they should do.

E
Right.

C
Like, if Pat and Stu are saying, I think Joe Biden should remain the nominee, you probably don't want him as the nominee. I know if I were a Democrat, I would have been arguing years ago, no way another term with this guy. No way. We lucked out in 2020.

Somehow we're here.

I don't want Kamala Harris either. I want a real freaking primary start. Make him fight his way through this field like, like every other person. If he wins, he wins. But I don't want him. He should step down immediately. In fact, I would probably have been demanding him stepping down a couple of years ago and from the presidency, not just the campaign. Like, I want him out from there. Even as a Democrat, if you care.

B
About the country, that's what you would want.

C
Oh, yeah, but I'm a Democrat, so I wouldn't necessarily think.

B
There you go.

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Yeah, it's $30 and I get a trial.

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Okay.

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So you could try it out. If you don't. Like, let's say, for example, when Jeffy goes on, Pat Gray unleashed. You can cancel.

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Okay.

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Like, that's okay. You can allow that? Yeah. You can just get out of it for any reason. Just like as soon as you're like, oh, I love Pat Gray, at least. And then Jeffy comes on.

B
I'm liking what you're saying right now. I'm just saying, you know, you're the.

C
One that books Jeffy every week.

B
Speaking of which, you're going to be gone tomorrow, right?

C
I am going on a little vacation with my wife a couple of nights.

B
Going to a cooler locale.

C
Yes. A place that's not 130, 34 degrees every day. That will be very, very nice.

B
Well, global warming. If you weren't such a global warming denier, maybe we could do something about this, Stu. Maybe we could change the climate on this planet.

C
What would you do?

B
If you would. If you would just get on board, okay. With spending the kind of money it's going to take and living the kind of life that it's going to take to change the climate.

C
How much money we talking about here?

B
I'd like to chicken feed 90 to 100 million or, I'm sorry.

Trillion.

C
Wait, trillion?

B
Maybe quadrillion.

C
Okay, now it's probably quadrillion. Wait, but hold on. Let me just ask you this one minor question on this.

B
Okay? One minor question.

C
You were telling me a little while ago that you already passed the most consequential climate bill of all time, the inflation and just inflation Reduction act.

B
Right?

C
So you. Now you need another hundred trillion dollars.

B
Trillion on. Yes. Right.

C
Because I'm a little concerned that maybe this is an end, a bottomless pit.

B
I need a million trillion thousand dollars to do it.

C
Okay?

B
A thousand trillion million billion to do this. And look, look, let me put it this way, and I really mean that.

C
Did you beat Medicare?

B
I did beat Medicare. Thank you for the reminder there.

C
You know, can I ask you just one more question while we're on the topic, because, you know, you're asking for 100 trillion.

B
Can I just ask you about million billion.

C
Can I ask you about $230 million for a second?

B
Okay.

C
That was the cost of the beer you built.

You know, didn't do anything.

And now they're. They're deconstructing it because it failed completely.

B
Love that story.

C
Oh, my God. I will say, oh, my. It might be my favorite story. It is.

Every Joe Biden policy in a nutshell. It starts off with these big expectations, these incredible warm feelings for all the.

B
Good it's going to do is we're actually going. Going to feed the people that were eliminating as well on the side. But, I mean, America does that. Right? We. We dropped food to the Afghans. Because you're. The theory, obviously, is that we're just. We're fighting against the government, not the people. And so we're trying to feed the people and they're doing that again here. And. But everybody said, look, Hamas doesn't want this. No, you're gonna be attacked while you're building it.

C
And they were, and they were.

But I think this is so reminiscent of all of their policies. You got the supposed feel good intentions, you got the gushingly positive media attention, highlighting all the caring reasons we're doing this.

B
Yep.

C
You've got the sort of legalistic rule bending they do on all this stuff. This one was, we don't have any troops on the ground. We've got troops on a pier 20ft from the ground.

Like, that's not. That's not real backflips.

B
They had to do that work to make that work so ridiculous.

C
It never had a realistic possibility of solving the problem.

It was massively expensive, it was massively over budget.

Of course, the result of it, we immediately knew it was doing less good than was. Was promised.

B
And actually some negatives.

C
Hamas didn't allow it and Hamas stole a lot of this. We were actually helping terrorists with it. The peer literally crumbled into pieces, just like all of his other policies.

And, of course, the failure of the idea never really gets acknowledged. We don't really have a conversation as to why we allowed this to happen in the first place. I will say I don't ever remember a bill being passed to fund $230 million. They just redirected it from other sources. But, like, at some point, shouldn't they be held responsible for this massive failure?

B
Like, no, because nobody ever is.

Nobody ever is.

C
It's like they just built a building and it fell over. Like, wouldn't the construction company get some blame for that?

B
You would think.

C
You'd think, but no. Here we're all going to just. They built a giant metal lego set in the sea that got rolled over the first time a wave came by and we're all like, gosh, there's a surprise. Well, he really meant well.

It.

B
Sure.

C
He took $230 million. Think about that amount, Pat. Like, all of the money you will ever pay in taxes your entire life went to fund one half of. One of the Lego pieces, to beat that, to build that pier that. That ended up in the ocean. That did nothing for anybody.

B
We've been so desensitized to the money that the government spends, though. People think 230 million is not bad.

C
It is really true.

B
That's true.

C
People don't even acknowledge it.

B
Nope. I mean, I think it could be 230 billion and people might not be necessarily moved. Yep.

It takes over a trillion dollars now to get us to even pay attention, and that's how we wound up in the situation we're in. Did you also, speaking of what's going on in the Middle east. Did you see Kamala Harris's response to the anti israeli protesters?

She was asked about, I guess, their motives and things, and what she had to say was, they're showing exactly what the human emotion should be.

C
Wait, huh?

B
What? What does that even mean?

C
Showing exactly what the human emotion should be?

B
Is the human emotion that we should all hate Israel or Jews or. What are you. What are you talking about?

Just bizarre. And these are the people leading the way.

And you wonder why we're in this situation we're in.

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All right, so who will Donald J. Trump select as vice president? The speculation has been really rampant lately because there's so many rumors. He's going to decide today. He decided yesterday, but he's going to tell us tomorrow. He's going to decide during the convention. He's going to decide right before and he's going to decide after it. There's not going to be a vice president.

C
It's so ridiculous.

B
Which is it?

C
It's been fun in a way, because if you know Donald Trump and you know the way he operates and his campaign operates, this has just been him screwing with the media for months.

B
Yeah. Like, you know, he does enjoy that.

C
Yes. It's just like a yo yo. He just keeps bringing, putting out there, bringing it back in. They have said literally every combination of everything that could be. He's already made the decision. He won't make the decision for a long time. He's got a huge field. He's got only ease down to the last couple. The latest report was he's down to.

B
Three with actually hurt two leaders. They seem to be jamming Rubio in now.

C
Yeah. So the two are Doug Bergam. Bergamentum, in effect.

B
Doesn't make any sense to me. Don't understand that one.

C
I don't really get it either. But he's supposedly good on energy.

B
Yeah.

C
You know, so, but like, I don't know. There was a thought at one point because of his fundraising difficulties several months ago.

B
That's not an issue now.

C
Not an issue. Not to mention he's a billionaire. If he wants to put money in his campaign, he's put it in his campaign. Right. But, and of course, he also has lots of other billionaires that support him. I don't think, I don't think money is going to determine this election.

I never bought it. And Bergam isn't like Elon Musk, right? Like, isn't he only a hundred millionaire? Like, he's not even a billionaire. I don't think.

B
I don't think so.

C
But he's not like, like, again, that's a lot of money.

B
Yeah.

C
But throwing an extra hundred million, a.

B
Double wide trailer, and he doesn't wonder where his next meal is coming from.

C
That's true.

B
But I don't think a billionaire, the.

C
Fact that he might throw $100 million of his personal money into this campaign, does that really move the needle for you if you're Donald Trump? Like, so it's not really going to make the determination as to who wins or loses this campaign? I don't think so. Bergam is up there. And then JD Vance was the other one mentioned as the top two candidates.

Senator from Ohio, 39 years old, he is very well aligned with the sort of America first MAGA platform.

B
Well, he's adopted all of the Maga. He's changed quite a bit.

C
He has changed quite a bit over the years. He was a Trump critic in 2016, obviously well known for his book Hillbilly Elegy, which kind of gives you the terrible story of life in the midwest and drugs and opioids.

But he tells a story of the real problems of that area, which I think is an interesting thing that's been a little overlooked with him. A lot of people say, well, he's from Ohio. He's going to win Ohio anyway. True. But Ohio is in a region of states that he really does need to win with problems. He's incredibly, well, you know, familiarized with.

He knows the issues affecting that region really well.

So I think that is something to consider politically. And then the other one was mentioned was Marco Rubio. As we talked about, there is an issue with two candidates coming from Florida, but it's solvable. They'll figure a way out of that if they want to pick Rubio. Rubio is, can be impressive as a politician. I've seen him speak live before, and he at times, I think is really, really good.

B
I think we were really pleasantly surprised in 2015 when he came to dallas. And that's right, you, me and Glenn went to the rally and were really favorably impressed by what he had to say. He was really good.

C
Good. And, you know, I think he will not hurt Trump. He, you know, none of these guys, some make the argument that Vance is a little risky on this front. I will make the argument. I think Bergam is actually risky on this front. And everyone's saying he's the safe choice. He is totally unproven. Yeah, totally unproven at this level. You are taking a guy out of single a and pushing him into the majors and saying, well, he hit 330 in the, in the minors. Like I. Okay, but, you know, Vance has been on television constantly. He's gone through a major campaign recently. He's been on media tours forever.

All of his stuff is sort of out there.

Rubio is even more well vetted. Right, because he was actually a presidential candidate already. He went through this fire already and dealt with some of the problems that are associated with it. I mean, I think Vance is a better, is a better communicator than Bergam is. So I would be less worried about him having those. But, like, people criticize the Sarah Palin choice because she was an unknown governor from a rural state with, not, without a large population that seemed to have a decent record in that state. And then she was put on that platform and there were issues.

I don't see why you wouldn't see that as a risk, at least with Doug Bergam. They're acting like this guy, like, is, you know, the most he's been, he's been in our lives for 100 years. No one knew who Doug Bergam was six months ago unless you lived in North Dakota when he announced for president.

No one knew who he was.

And now all of a sudden he's the safe choice. Like that is. It might be true, but there is absolute risk there. We have no idea how this guy performs on a stage like that. The only thing we have is he was in a couple, he was only in one debate, wasn't he? Maybe he was in two primary debates where Trump wasn't there. And he was very forgettable.

So maybe the idea is, well, he'll be very forgettable in the campaign, too, and that's fine for Donald Trump.

Probably true. But, man, I don't know. That one seems like a risk. So should we go through some of these other people that are possibilities?

Tell me if you think these are real possibilities. Tim. Scott, you think he's in it or out of it?

B
No, I think he's out.

C
I've not heard a lot of Scott buzz lately.

B
No, now.

C
So I don't think he's going to be the choice.

But I wouldn't say he's completely, I wouldn't be stunned if it was Scott. I just don't think it's going to happen.

B
Yeah.

C
Here's one that has not been talked about, but I could see Trump potentially doing, which is Glenn Youngkin. You think there's any possibility of that?

B
I think there's a chance to mention him last week or the week before said, yeah, he's one of the names I'm considering.

C
Yeah. And what you like with Youngkin is he did very well with the suburban woman crowd that Trump struggled with in 2020.

Issues like education and stuff, prominent issues, obviously, in this election, potentially. And Virginia is a state where normally is not competitive, but right now is, I mean, I think the polling from Virginia shows a pretty close race there. Maybe he could help you there. Obviously, if you win Virginia and you're a Republican, it's probably over. You've probably won the election already. Ready?

Tulsi Gabbard, a real, no, I don't.

B
Think there's a chance.

C
I would be shocked. But there is an argument for it. Right. Like, especially the way he's handling abortion. We just dealt with this last hour. If you want to kind of softly soft play the abortion issue, you pick a, basically a democratic woman who's pro choice, who's pro choice, and you stick around the ticket. I think it's a terrible idea. I do not want a Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer as the potential president of the United States. But what I will say is I don't get to make that decision. And I do like Tulsi Gabbard.

B
Yeah, I do, too.

C
I like her.

B
But we're so easy on the right. Anybody, anybody is who looks like an oasis in the desert of liberalism, we're like, yes, please give me that.

You know, and I think she benefits from that because she comes from the left. She supported Bernie Sanders at one point for president, but now, you know, she seems much more in line with a lot of what we believe. And so, but there's, there's too many differences for me.

C
Too many differences. And again, if she's pre, I mean, you know, the candidate's 78 years old. I know we keep talking about the other guy who's really, really old and looks like he's about to collapse at any moment. But, you know, Donald Trump, you know, a lot of people are completely cogent when they pass away. Like, I mean, he's, he's passed, he's right around the age.

B
And she could become president is kind of the point.

C
God forbid. I hope it doesn't happen, obviously. But I'm nervous about that. This is an important pick.

Ben Carson, any chance you think he picks him?

B
I hope not.

C
I think, no.

B
And he's mentioned him a few times, but I don't think so.

C
I don't think that's real. I don't think he's really picking him. The fake Ramaswami.

I don't think so.

B
I mean, he wouldn't be bad at all. No, I wouldn't mind that.

C
Consistent with the sort of platform that, that Trump has, like, there's a similarity there. He has publicly ruled him out. But then seemingly ruled him back in later on. So I don't know, keep a position.

B
In the White House spokesperson arena. Keep that open for him because he'd.

C
Certainly be able to do that.

B
Imagine anybody better, as good as he is speaking and hate him all. They hate him so much. They'd hate him because he would run circles around him.

C
Elise Stefanik. I just don't think she's well enough, well known enough. She's also not super conservative. She did do a great job on the Israel protests, I will say. Christy Noam.

B
No, no chance.

C
The dog thing, I think, sunk that one. Unfortunately for Christie. Nikki Haley. No, no, no. Mike Pence. Mike Pence is on this list. No, I'm pretty sure he's not gonna be hilarious if he's like, yeah, we're running it back. I got Mike Pence on the ticket trumpet. We don't have to print new decals.

B
It'd be fun for a few days talking about it.

C
Hilarious.

B
Yeah.

C
That's. We should go through what our most fun scenario is for how this plays out. I have an idea for it. All right, let me give you a couple more names before we do that. Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I think that's an interest possibility. It's a. I think it's a small chance, but it's an interesting one. She's been very loud.

B
Know how important loyalty is to him.

C
Yeah.

B
And I don't know of anybody more loyalty than she's been.

C
There was some conflict about her not endorsing early. She didn't endorse in the, in the primary very early.

B
Right.

C
So there was some ruffled feathers supposedly about that. Byron Donald. There's a chance of that. He's been mentioned a lot.

B
I just don't think so.

C
Not well known.

B
He's not a bad pick.

C
No, he's a good guy. I like him, but I don't think that's going to happen. Tom Cotton.

B
No.

C
No, I don't think so. Any other. No, I don't think so. So here's my, here's my scenario for most fucking thing that happens in this election. Care.

All right.

Kamala Harris organizes a Kamala coup.

She gets the cabinet officials on board, and they launch the 25th amendment challenge and get Joe Biden thrown out of office. She just decides she's going to take it.

B
All right.

C
Joe Biden is so angry about this that he decides, despite the fact he's been thrown out of the presidency by the 25th amendment, he can stay on the ticket.

And decides to stay on the ticket, holds on names, a new vice presidential possibility, whoever that is, and then loses terribly in the election.

B
So that would be fun. That would be fun.

C
Would be hilarious.

I want that to happen.

B
It's a little like this sports talk radio scenario.

C
There's no chance of it happening, but that's what I want.

B
Bob from Birkeland calls in and says, hey, Mikey, what if Mickey Mantle and Alex Rodriguez have played at the same time on the same team as Sandy Koufax? You think they'd win?

C
What is your bob from Northport call?

You're suggesting the most fun that you could have in this particular election. Do you have a crazy.

B
The most fun, the one I'd like to see, obviously, for just best for America?

C
Yeah, that's not what I'm talking about.

B
I'm talking about Ron DeSantis.

C
Wait, Ron Desantis?

How does Ron DeSantis get. Okay, here's a scenario for that.

They go through the election. Trump and Biden Ty at 269. It goes to the house, and the house selects Ron DeSantis.

B
Yeah, I can see that.

C
There you go. Any day now. Just look for it. Any day now.

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Blaze tv.com glenn the code Glenn 30 trial. Don't miss a brand new show. Launching tomorrow. Blaze news tonight. It's going to be great. Don't miss it again. Blaze tV.com Glenn Glenn 30 trial is the code. Let me give you this from Charles C. W. Cook. He writes, the press insists that they didn't know how bad it was. They say they were as shocked as anyone by what they saw at the debate. They contend they are not the perpetrators, but the victims.

If that's true, we ought to talk through its implications. If it's true, then the press was duped and duped by the federal government of the United States of America. If it's true, then the executive branch has been engaged in a massive and effective conspiracy to keep Biden's infirmity from the people who were supposed to report the news. If it's true, then the White House fooled the media. It outwitted the media. It embarrassed the media. If it's true, then the president and his political party colluded to suppress the ability of the sacred fourth estate to relay matters of public interest to the voters. And in the process, it made a mockery of the First Amendment. So is the press gonna investigate? That certainly sounds like a big story to me. And by investigate, I don't mean lash out at the president in the hopes that he'll be replaced by someone who does better in the polls. I mean, find out how this happened in the first place. Discover who knew when, where, name names. If Biden goes, he'll be replaced by someone, probably his own vice president. How is the press gonna make sure that she and her team don't do exactly the same thing on a different topic?

B
It's a great way to call them out on the carpet.

C
Mm hmm.

B
Because it's absolutely impossible that they were duped.

C
They weren't.

B
Unless you don't, you don't look at your own coverage.

C
They knew.

B
They knew. They knew what we knew.

It's amazing that they play this game and, you know, with some people it works.

Oh, they didn't know he was, he'd suffered such decline. Just happened.

C
Some minor line popped up.

B
In the last week, he's really gone downhill.

C
Well, now we know from George Clooney it was at least a week before the debate.

B
Oh, right.

C
That's when he started going downhill. How many times this deadline's gonna be extended and extended and extended.

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