Prayer Is Now Welcome on Campus … As Long as It's Islamic | Guests: Andrew McCarthy & Salena Zito | 4/29/24

This episode scrutinizes the acceptance and facilitation of Islamic prayers in American universities while other religious expressions are restricted, featuring discussions with Andrew McCarthy and Salena Zito.

1. Islamic prayers are openly facilitated on campuses like Columbia University, raising questions about religious equity.
2. Contrast in treatment between Islamic prayers and other religious practices, such as Christian expressions, which are often more restricted.
3. The discussion highlights broader societal trends towards accommodating certain religious practices over others.
4. The episode explores the impact of political correctness on university policies concerning religious expressions.
5. Commentary from guests Andrew McCarthy and Salena Zito offers legal and cultural perspectives on the issue.

1: Introduction to the Episode

Hosts introduce the episode's topic, focusing on the acceptance of Islamic prayers in universities and its implications. Brief overview of recent events at Columbia University where Islamic prayers were facilitated, drawing attention to the perceived double standards in religious expression. Glenn Beck: "Today, we delve into why Islamic prayer is welcomed on campus, yet other religious expressions face hurdles."

2: Guest Commentary

Discussion with guests Andrew McCarthy and Salena Zito on the legal and cultural aspects of religious expressions in educational institutions. They provide insights into the constitutional implications and societal trends influencing campus policies. Andrew McCarthy: "The facilitation of Islamic prayers at universities like Columbia is a reflection of broader societal shifts towards selective religious accommodation."

3: Broader Societal Implications

Hosts discuss the broader implications of the episode's topic for religious freedom and the role of political correctness in university policies. Examination of how these trends affect not only religious practices on campuses but also broader societal perceptions of religion. Stu Burguiere: "This trend is not just about religious freedom but also about how political correctness shapes which religions are accommodated in public institutions."

1. Advocate for equal treatment of all religious expressions in educational settings.
2. Engage in dialogues and forums to discuss the implications of selective religious accommodation.
3. Support legal efforts that seek to uphold the constitutional right to free religious expression for all groups.
4. Educate oneself and others about the importance of religious equity in public spaces.
5. Participate in or organize campus events that promote understanding and tolerance of diverse religious practices.

Glenn and Stu react to footage from several universities throughout the country being taken over by anti-Israel protests and Islamic prayer circles. Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to discuss America's various yearly protests over the past few years. National Review contributing editor Andrew McCarthy joins to discuss the arguments heard before the Supreme Court over President Trump's presidential immunity case. Glenn and Andy also examine the utter embarrassment of DA Alvin Bragg's case against Trump. "The Great Reset" and "Dark Future" co-author Justin Haskins announces a new fellowship program with Mercury One focusing on teaching journalism and research. New York Post columnist Salena Zito joins to review Biden's lawsuit against a hometown favorite gas station in Pennsylvania and its potential consequences. U.S. Senate candidate Trent Staggs joins to discuss his campaign to replace Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) in the Senate.

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Stu Burguiere

Oh, well, what a, what a weekend it was. What a weekend it was. The constant protests, I guess, are the big story over the weekend, and it doesn't seem to be stopping. Seems to be the only thing that Americans want to do these days is protest the right of Israel to exist. That's, that's apparently controversial now.

It's amazing to see this happened. We're seeing university after university after university step up and decide that the hill they're going to die on is the hill that supports Hamas. This is apparently in a popular position in this country and an incredible moment that we're in right now.

Let's. Let's go to sat one, if we could, on our list. I'm not sure if these are available. I'm a little bit of a technical issue here, but here we go. This is a.

We're having an islamic prayer being held.

I have this album, just bought it on vinyl.

Now, this is the quietest of the protests around the country. Most of them were not really like this outside of the White House correspondents dinner, there was more protesting going on. This is palestinian. Stop. Now you're missing the visuals.

Glenn Beck

Here you have family is gonna be wiped off the registry. So this is someone dressed as a israeli soldier, and there's a bunch of blindfolded, shirtless people who get hit by blue powder and collapse, which is making. It a. Yeah, no, it's. I mean, no, it's.

I think this is. This is, you know, the Israeli killing the white man, which is supposed to be the Palestinian, but they're white men, most of them. Yeah. Which I think just makes it, you know, even more confusing for anybody who is watching. You know, I got to go back to the islamic prayer.

I mean, I don't know about you, but I miss it sometimes. Could you play the. Could you go back and play the islamic prayer for me, please? If you happen to be watching the blaze. I just want to describe the islamic prayer here.

Everybody's on a prayer rug there at Columbia University. It's a beautiful, beautiful scene.

And Akbar. Yes. And this guy is very, very popular in the Upper east side. So you have people, you know, on a prayer rug. You know, we had to go to the supreme Court to get the coach to be able to pray, you know, by himself on the field after a football game.

But this is totally cool. And the nice thing is they're including women in the call to prayer, which is very popular in the Middle east. They love it when women get down and pray right alongside the men. It is. It's wonderful.

It's truly, truly wonderful. Now let's go to cut four. This is in Canada. This is in Vancouver. From the river to the sea, right.

Okay, can we stop there for just a second? Stu, could you just explain the geography of Israel? I know there's the sea on the west coast of Israel. What's on the east coast of Israel? Or the easternmost, you know, furthest east you could go.

Stu Burguiere

That would be a river, Glenn. So that would be. Yeah. What's interesting about this is that's how, you know, it's an aspirational call for unity. From the river to the sea, right.

So that, you know, Palestine will just take over everything from Israel and there'll be no Jews left. That's the call for unity. It's aspiring. Okay. It's an aspirational call for unity.

Glenn Beck

That sounds very specific, that language. Like, that's what they're saying on college campuses. And Rashida Tlaib right out of her mouth. Oh, yeah. Okay, good.

So an aspirational call for unity. The only thing you could be unified on is get rid of all the Jews because that means there's no Israel. Yeah. So no two state solution. Yeah, we.

Stu Burguiere

That was another slogan. We don't want no two state. We want everything. That was the chance that was coming down. Well, but see, they.

Glenn Beck

See, they make it clear they want everything, and we don't want no. No one state. So they've got double negative there, which means they want a two state solution. And. And they say, we want everything, and that must include a one state and a two state solution.

So I think it's very, very clear now, could we go on and play? What they were saying in Canada, it was cut, for we demand a free. Palestine from the river to the sea. And that we stand with the palestinian resistance and their heroic and brave action on October 7. And they said, lord, live October 7.

Pat Gray

And we say today, long live October 7. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I love it when the Nazis are like, long live the holocaust, you know, hey, long live those cool, really cool showers and oven system that we came up with. You know, that clunky slogan.

Glenn Beck

Yeah, it's a clunky, clunky slogan. But, but, but a true slogan, but. The equivalent of what they're saying. The equivalent of what they're saying on these college campuses, the ones that everybody in the media seems to be supporting. Long live freaking October 7.

I mean, could you be any more. I don't know, Glenn. Is this one still borderline? Is this one anti semitic, or are we not sure? Is this an aspirational call for unity?

Stu Burguiere

I can't quite tell. Well, we know it's brave. We know it's brave. It's. It's.

Glenn Beck

Well, it was. October 7 was a very brave day. It was brave and heroic, what they did. Really, really brave and heroic. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, how. I mean, do you think it takes courage to go molest, slaughter, and then burn babies? Sure. Sure.

Takes courage to do that. You might get caught and then seen for the monster that you really are. But in this case, no. They're celebrated. So it's brave and historic.

Now in California and Cal Poly cut five, does this have audio with it? I can't. We're seeing the video of this. Apparently, no sound to it. But yet again, graffiti inside the hallways here.

Stu Burguiere

Some words we maybe don't say on the radio to recap. Are they grown up words? They're grown up words. They're big, big boy, big girl words. And, yeah, this has been just people ruining the facilities, and it's very messy, and there's graffiti everywhere inside the building.

It's wonderful. This is why this is another absolute. Remember, kill all the Jews. Kill all the Jews. It helps you remember that.

Glenn Beck

Now, beyond killing all the Jews, there's something new that they're all for. Cut 38. Plea, please. This is in Germany, of all places. The big palestinian uprising in Germany this weekend.

And what are they calling for?

Stu Burguiere

Doesn't sound good. It never sounds good in German. No, well, that's not in German. It's in Arabic. But, you know, whenever you get somebody in Germany going, no matter what language it is, you know, it's trouble.

Glenn Beck

Don't worry. They were just calling for a caliphate, so they're not wanting to bring the Nazis back. They just want a caliphate. Aspirational, so. Yeah.

Very inspirational. Now can we go? If I could just get the drag queens and the caliphate people, you know, if I could just get them together, a one stop shop, I think we would be set. Here's cut 30. Today.

Pat Gray

What we're gonna do is we're gonna show free Palestine. Gonna hear that.

Glenn Beck

Oh, the kids.

Oh, see, this is the uniting message. We can get the kids involved, too, because we have a drag queen, and the drag queen, if you're. If you're a drag queen and you know it, shout free Palestine. So it's one place we can get both of those things where we can all come together. Yeah, that's an, that's an amazing clip.

Stu Burguiere

I think. Now this is just me speculating, Glenn, because I'm not a, I'm not a travel agent. I don't work for a tourism board. But I do wonder how that particular event would go down if held in Gaza. Would it be different because they are cheering on Palestine?

So obviously there's some affinity there. But the drag queen story hour group reading to a bunch of, let's say, gazan children, how would that work out in Gaza itself? You know, it is funny that you should ask that, Stu. You know, you may not be a travel agent or work for some sort of tourism. Tourism.

Glenn Beck

But you are a thinker. Thank you. You are a thinker, and that's really what counts. Here's the good news. They are, the protesters are going to love it.

They're going to love it. What happened in Iraq just this weekend? They made it illegal to be on the spectrum, the sexual spectrum at all. You're either a man or a woman. Men have sex with women.

Women have sex with men. Now, that's not all the time, because, you know, there's a shortage of women over in the Middle east. Sometimes they got to get a little them going on with a younger man. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying?

So. But we don't talk about that. I didn't say any of that. I don't know what you're even talking about. Say what?

But. So they've, they've outlawed now homosexuality, which is weird because Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, he said at one point, I think it was at Columbia University, when asked about them gays, uh, he said, we don't have any gay people in, in Iran. And, uh, lo and behold, they're going to make that wish to come true. Uh, so, so you got that going for you also, by the way, uh, they just killed their third, uh, where is this story? Their third tick talker?

She was. No, seriously. She was. No, she was. She was.

Well, she's dead. She's dead. She was a very popular influencer in Iran, and she's a woman. And she was shown dancing, but she wasn't just dancing. She was wearing jeans and they were a little too tight.

Now, me personally, I don't, I don't mind, you know, some sort of law against jeans that are too tight on some people. You know what I'm saying? I, you know, you walk around Walmart once in a while and you're like, who? Those really don't work on you, honey. But I don't want just.

I don't want to see you executed. But she was executed because they were a little too tight and too suggestive. And she was laying in a bed.

Well, she was reading her son a good night story, but she was still in those jeans, laying on a bed. So they had to execute her over the weekend. So the crackdown continues. And, hey, all you people on campus with your little rug prayer thing with the woman right next to you, you know how popular that's going to be? And all you drag queens, oh, they love you.

They love you. In fact, I am going to set up a personal fund. If you're a drag queen, if you're a gay activist and you're out because you love it and you show it, clap your hands. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go ahead and give you airfare from wherever you live here in the United States to the Gaza Strip, okay?

And bring your pamphlets. Bring your pamphlets. Bring your best wigs and your spiky high heels because they are going to love you there. And when you stop writing us or calling us, we'll know exactly how much they love you over there. So maybe we could send that as a message to all of your friends over here.

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Andy McCarthy

Glenn, you were. Running through those wonderful stories from the Middle east, and you mentioned Iran and Ahmadinejad and a bunch of stories that happened in Iraq, and you kind of went back and forth. And I don't know if people followed that exactly, because it was Iran who had it said they, there was no gays years and years ago, Columbia. And both of the stories banning homosexuality and the TikTok are being executed. Both happen in Iraq.

Stu Burguiere

And what I found fascinating about that is we should be able to tell the difference. Right? Like, we were, we were supposedly helping out this country so that it did not end up like Iran. And now here. Stop it.

Glenn Beck

It's only a trillion dollars. It's only a trillion dollars. You get what you pay for. You want to go in there half ass like that, you get what you pay for now. $2 trillion.

2 trillion. That might have had somebody who just mildly hates gays, but, but no, no. Yeah, we. We didn't do the job. And so what we did is we empowered the head of the snake.

We made the snake even more powerful, which I love. The head of the snake over the Middle east is Iran. And now it's. Now you have iranian Shias all over in Iraq. And so they're getting there.

Now they're doing the thing that Shias love, and that is kill people that disagree with them. Wow, that's weird. Cause that's. Wow, that's almost like the left here in America. Oh, I see what they have in common.

They just, like, silencing people, throwing them in jail, or killing them if they disagree with them. Wow. Too bad we can't get them to agree on the same kind of people. Or we should get the two of them together. Oh.

Cause they'll like each other a lot. No, no, no. I think the left, when they get there, they'll be like, hi, everybody. We bought. We brought birthday cakes and candles, and we're gonna decorate this mosque all up.

And they'll love it in the shiite world. Yeah. No, yeah. These regimes that you're talking about over there, too, they're not the ones to fear. It's.

Stu Burguiere

It's Donald Trump. Trump is the one to fear. Like, that's the guy. If you have to really be terrified about something coming down the road, it's definitely not the islamic extremist regimes we're discussing. It's instead the tyranny of the real estate developer from Manhattan.

Glenn Beck

Yeah, he's a man of tyranny. It's clear. He hates them gays so much, he was the first president to, you know, open a party openly and say, hey, I'm going to appoint gay people openly. I'm going to have the first gay person speak on the podium. I'm going to be the first president that actually runs and saying, I don't have a problem with gay people.

You know, you got to fear him. But the guy who wants to chop your pee pee off and throw you off a building, you know, that happens to be coming across our border right now. Don't fear him. There's nothing to fear there. Nothing to worry about.

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I don't know about you, but when I hear Allah Akbar, I think God is great, and that's while he'll destroy that other impostor that's saying, kill people. And anyway, how are you? Welcome to the program. We're glad you're here. Pat Gray joins us fresh off a student protest.

How was the weekend, Stu or Pat? Oh, was protestastic. Oh, really? Yeah. Was it protest?

Really was. Which one did you choose to protest at? I went to the one at Harvard. At Harvard? Yeah.

Oh, did you raise the flag? Mm. I helped. Yeah, I helped lower the american flag first. Yeah.

Which had to be taken out of the way and then raised the palestinian flag. Amen. Yeah. It's a beautiful moment for all of us. What about the flag for tolerance?

Stu Burguiere

Well, those colors and, like, the. It was a rainbow, but then they've changed into, like, 943 colors and directions and diagonal lines. Did you get that one? Yeah, we got that one, too. Yeah.

Glenn Beck

Which is interesting because in, in the Gaza Strip, you know, those people would. Would be killed. And so it's great that they support the palestinian cause. Anyway, I love them. Very, very tolerant.

Selfless. Yeah, very selfless. Very selfless. Very selfless. So, you know, I was looking at the trend here on the summers, and there's something here that I don't know if anybody else has caught.

I mean, in 2017, in the summer, you know, we still had the women's march going on. That was 2017 all. You know, that was the big protest that year. Then the march for our lives, which was against guns in 2018, 2019 became very busy because you had Greta very upset about. How dare you.

And the climate change and everything else. And so she got a bunch of people to block traffic and throw soup at really expensive paintings, which I think, you know, it really turned me. I was like, I don't know if I trust this, you know, little puny pipsqueak. And then she was like, you know, we got to destroy paintings. Yeah.

And the soup. And I thought, okay. Then the. Oh, by the way, that year also, we had. We set Portland on fire.

I think we set Minneapolis on fire. Chaz was built in Seattle. How's that doing now up in Seattle? I don't even want to ask. I'm sure it's doing well.

Then in 2020, we had the COVID protests, which couldn't be done because of COVID It was really. It was wrong. But if you happen to want to march with BLM and loot some stores, you know, I'm saying, then it was okay. Then it was okay. 21.

We had the masks, vaccines. 22. It starts to slow down, strangely, after Joe Biden is elected. It kind of, you know, the mask and the vaccines, and nobody really pays attention then, 22, you know, the Putin stooge, you know, for, if you're. If you're not willing to send all of your money, all of your money over to Ukraine, you love Putin.

Then. 23. Last summer was kind of a yawn fest, which I think it was kind of like, hey, let's just take a break because we got a big, big summer coming up, and if our guy loses, we're going to have to just keep upping the ante every, every summer. So this year is the summer of global jihad. So that's great.

Next summer. I'm not sure, but I think it's the summer of Satan is neat. Marches which will display the rainbow flag, but it won't look exactly the same. It's exactly the same, except it's all black and like the caliphate flag, but that has white writing. So all the diverse colors, even the white stuff just fades right directly to.

To black. So Satan is neat. Coming next summer. Make sure you prepare your kids in college. I was thinking of the t shirt we made a while ago that just says, learn, then protest.

Stu Burguiere

The order is important, and I feel like it really applies. It's more relevant than ever right now, doesn't it? Kind of feels. Are you saying that they're big fat dummies? Yeah, yeah, kind of.

Kind of saying that big fat dummies. Learn, then protest.com, by the way, if you want to get the shirt, because it's something you could wear to the protests. Because I don't think they know what the order is. I think they don't. They're at least doing one of the things they're protesting.

There's no evidence that they're learning, but they should know that the steps are clear. You need to learn about the topic you're protesting. And then you go to the protest. Well, you see, they have the receipts on learning. Okay.

Glenn Beck

They have the receipts. $90,000 a year, and they're learning a lot. You saw the girls interviewed last week, right, at some of those protests where they're asked, why? Why are you here? What about the palestinian situation has, you know, motivated you to get out and speak on their behalf?

And none of them knew. Not one of them understood why they were there. In fact, they said, yeah, I'm not that educated on it. Then why are you standing there with a placard? Why?

They don't know. They have no idea. So, yeah, I think it's really important. Learn, then protest. It would be nice.

Stu Burguiere

It would be nice. It'd be a nice change. I think it would solve a lot of these problems. And again, you guys were, I know, won over by the soup on the paintings. Myself, I like to at least miss one flight.

I want to be on a road on the way to the airport, and I want to miss that flight. And then I think, wow, the Gazans are the good guys in this. Yeah. Because there was people laying in the roadway. Yeah.

Glenn Beck

Is that why you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I love that.

Stu Burguiere

That convinces me. Oh. Every time I've talked about this for decades, because of the protests in Houston that dumped garbage into intersections man, that won me over to the janitors downtown in their plight. I wanted them to make $1,000 an hour after they dumped garbage in my way. I loved it.

Glenn Beck

I loved it. So it's weird because I didn't see all those protesters. I just noticed I was near campus this weekend. I just noticed how many speed bumps they put on the roads all around the campus. So I didn't see the die in at all.

Anyway, by the way, there is Marianne Alwan. This is a very sad, tragic story. This is from AP. Mariam Alwan. She figured the worst was over when the New York City police, in riot gear, mind you, arrested her on the Columbia University campus and then loaded her and others under the bus and held them in custody for hours.

Hours. But the next evening, yeah, she thought it was over, but it wasn't. The next evening, she received a curt email from the university. And I'm talking curt is she and other students, it said, were being suspended for their arrests at the Gaza solidarity in camp. And this is a tactic that a lot of colleges are using now.

You know, they're just saying, hey, we want you out of here. And so now the students rights to protest for these things. And. And there's faculty that are standing with the protesters and they're like, hey, they shouldn't be forced out of school. What do you mean you're gonna suspend them?

And the terms of the suspension vary from campus to campus. At Columbia, and it's affiliated Bernard College for Women, Al Juan and dozens more were arrested on April 18, barred from campus and classes, unable to attend in person or virtually, and banned from the dining halls. I mean, where are you going to eat? There's. I mean, it's practically a food desert there in Manhattan.

Questions about her academic future remains. Will she be allowed to take final exams? What about financial aid, graduation? Columbia says the outcomes will be decided at disciplinary hearings. And she and her attorney said, this is very dystopian.

Dystopian. I mean, all we were calling for was chanting was death to the jews, and now we can't. How they suddenly don't want us on campus. That's weird, huh? That's weird.

That is weird. You would think we would tolerate death to Jews, Chance, wouldn't you? At a major american university, you would. In fact, you'd welcome it, right? Cause, well, when we.

Sure, when we said never again, we didn't mean never again. We meant until 2024. That's never good. Until now. Yeah.

Yeah, right. An attorney for the palestinian legal fund, which is gosh I'd love to know who set this all up for them, but they're. They're helping groups all over college campuses, and they filed a civil. Civil suit, a civil rights case against the school, accusing Columbia of not doing enough to really address the discrimination against the palestinian students. Yeah, they're the victims.

They're the victims. Amen. Yeah. And the level of punishment, according to the attorney, is not even just draconian. Okay.

It's like, over the. I love attorneys that say it's like. It's like, over the top callousness. Mm hmm. Is that worse than draconian?

Because it seems like draconian is worse than that. Yeah. Think about the word. Callousness means that, like, you have calluses on your hand, right? Okay.

Yeah, yeah. It's that bad. So it's the. Wow, that's bad. Yeah, it's.

It's bad. It's not good. No, that's not draconian. What is that just conjures up. I don't know.

Stu Burguiere

That's about Dracula. Dracula's not even real. Calluses are real. That's true. Yeah.

And if. And the only real Dracula is Count chocula, which he produces incredibly delicious cereal. No, seriously. Right. Which is not a bad thing.

Not a bad thing at all. So draconian is a positive word. It means chocolate. Well, thank you. Definition?

Chocolatey. Right, right. Palestinian legal filed the complaint Thursday at the US Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights. Oh, it's going to be fixed there. The four pro palestinian students and the student group of Columbia students for justice in Palestine are the real victims.

Glenn Beck

The group calls for an investigation into the university's handling of alleged discrimination and harassment against pro palestinian students by Columbia students. As a palestinian student, I've been harassed, doxxed, shouted down, and discriminated against by my fellow students and professors simply because of my identity and my commitment to advocating for my own rights and freedoms. And, of course, taking over the campus illegally and pitching a tent there and then just causing mayhem on. On campus and chanting, death to the Jews. But other than that, they're just wanting their own civil rights.

They've done nothing wrong. Nothing wrong. That's wonderful. Can we hit on this doxing thing that they keep complaining about? Like, this big complaint that all these protests are upset because people are coming, they're taking pictures of them, they're on video, and the doxxing they're talking about is potentially leaking the fact that they were at these protests where, you know, the Jews were being threatened that might be leaked to future employers.

Stu Burguiere

And that is, of course, very, very wrong. This, by the way, coming from this same group of people that, after the Charlottesville rally, went through every frame of video to try to identify every person who was there. And I will remind you the story. Of Cole White, coal white. A guy who went to the Charlottesville protests and then was tracked across the country and eventually pressured his employer to.

For him to be fired. Just the hot dog guy. He worked at a hot dog stand. They got a man fired from a. Hot dog stand because he went to.

Glenn Beck

I don't know if the hot dogs. Were racist or not. I'm not 100% sure on that. But now these people who are gonna go get jobs as lawyers and doctors and all these other things, they are worried about them not being able to get the employment after they fly. Freaking got a guy fired from a hot dog stand.

Stu Burguiere

I have no idea whatsoever. I mean, you know, it is a double whammy with him. He not only was a Nazi, but his last name also was white. Oh, yeah. And, you know, that's always a problem.

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Oh, yeah, dog. Welcome to the, welcome to the program, stu. I just a hefty hello to you today because I know it's, you know, it's a big occasion for you. You know it is. Well, yeah, you showed up for work.

I think that's a. I think that's a very special. I've been trying to cure myself of that habit, but still keeps going on. So it's kind of like our anniversary show. You know, once in a while you show up and I'm like, oh, wow, it's special.

Let's have cake. If there was cake here, I'd show up more often.

Well, maybe there is. You just don't get in in time because I have the same affinity for cake. All right, coming up, we're going to talk a little bit about the Supreme Court and also Donald Trump's, Donald Trump's court case with Andy McCarthy. Oh, he's, he's great. He knows this stuff.

He's great. Better than anybody. Yeah. When you get into the net, the nitty gritty of all this, and it's so freaking complicated. It really is.

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Glenn Beck

If this thing comes down, that, I mean, that would be, it would be amazing for this to be all over because they overreached and the Supreme Court coming out and hopefully not doing any damage to, you know, the presidents that come after this one. But we'll see Andy McCarthy next, the Glenn Beck program. Let me tell you about home title lock. Do you know about house stealing? This is when a scammer fakes your signature on a document, and then they transfer the home that you live in, that you own over to them, and then they're borrowing against your equity.

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Welcome to the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program.

Hello, america. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. There's a couple of things going on that involve President Trump, of course. One is his trial with Alvin Bragg in New York City. How is that going?

What is the latest? What are we expecting this week? And then the latest update on the, on the immunity trial in front of the Supreme Court. This one could rock the world, both in a good way and a bad way, depending on which way they go. We're going to talk to one of the real experts who understands all of this and what it all means.

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Andy, how are you? Good. I'm doing great. How are you? Very, very good.

So let's, let's start with the big story, I think, and that is the Supreme Court and what they were arguing last week. Can you give me your honest take on what this is really about for the future, beyond Donald Trump and how you think this is going to affect what is happening with Donald Trump? Glenn, I think it's important that you frame the question that way because it seemed to me, and I reread the transcript over the weekend after listening to the oral argument, the court is a lot more concerned about the presidency than about Trump. Sure. It should be.

Andy McCarthy

Yeah. And it's an important point to make because a lot of the coverage has been this hysteria over whether, you know, the Trump pact Supreme Court is in the tank for him and they're going to get rid of Jack Smith's prosecution. I don't think that's going to happen at all. It's possible that Smith won't get his case to trial depending on what the court does. What I think the court's going to do is send the case back to Judge Chutkin, who was the trial judge in Washington, with instructions to sort out what things in the indictment against Trump are, what you would call official acts that might arguably be immune from prosecution because they go to the core responsibilities of the presidency.

And what are private acts or private wrongs that he would not have immunity for even though they happened during his presidency. But the upshot of the questioning of the lawyers, including Trump's lawyer, and this is particularly by Justice Barrett and Justice Kagan, Trump's lawyer, admitted that there's a lot of conduct charged in the indictment that is private conduct that really wouldn't be covered by an immunity claim, even though Trump's been saying a lot of stuff about absolute, complete immunity. And I think the concessions he made in the argument that is John Sauer, Trump's lawyer, would be enough if Smith was willing to tailor his indictment down to the things that Sauer conceded. They could go ahead with a trial on just those acts that he'd lose a lot of evidence, but he probably should. So what are some of the acts that could fall under, you know, private and so you could prosecute and, and what are the acts that are the president and you don't prosecute.

Justin Haskins

Yeah. So the one bright line we can take away from this is that there seems to be consensus that there is a divide between office seeking and the carrying out of the duties of an office. So if something is purely in the nature of trying to get reelected, that's deemed to be private because it's not part of the duties of the presidency, it would be the same for anyone who was seeking office, whether that person was an incumbent or not. And then there are other things that are clearly presidential. So just to give some solid examples that came out of the argument, Trump's lawyer conceded that if Trump made a private scheme with private lawyers to get slates of electors designated for him and to supply documents to the Congress suggesting that they were the authentic actual slate of electors designated by a state, that would be private conduct because it's purely office seeking, and he carried it out only with private lawyers.

Andy McCarthy

On the other hand, there's an allegation in the indictment that Trump tried to use the Justice Department to signal to states that there were serious concerns about fraud and considered both removing the attorney general when he got pushback, and considered sending a letter that they never sent from the Justice Department to the state of Georgia to tell them that they needed to do more scrutiny over what happened in the popular election. Trump argues very strongly, and I think the court will probably go along with this, that that is the president's control over the Justice Department is purely a presidential act that should have no part in a criminal prosecution. So those are the kinds of things that the court is talking about sorting out. But Andy didn't. When Trump sat another group of electors or tried to, that's what, that's what the friends of Dershowitz did.

Glenn Beck

I don't remember all of the attorneys in the 2000 election. That's what they were recommending to be done. You have to do that or you have no case. Speaker one? Yeah.

Andy McCarthy

Let me just be clear, Glenn. They're not saying that Trump wouldn't have a defense at trial. What we're talking about now is surely, is purely immunity. That is, could he prevent the trial. From happening in the first place?

I think that there's significant defenses to the fraudulent electors claim, beginning with the fact that the electors themselves didn't think they were fraudulent. They thought they were contingent. They thought that basically they were sitting in as the slate of electors. In the event that Trump prevailed either in the state courts or with the state legislature to throw out the popular election, then that would activate. But they weren't trying to fool anyone into saying that they were the actual electors that had been certified by the state states.

Glenn Beck

Can he get a fair trial on that if, if indeed he has to go to court? Well, I think it's, it's tough for him to get a fair trial in Washington. Why isn't, why can't someone make the case here? Why can't his people make the case that you can't get a fair trial with the jury pool in New York or in Washington, DC? I think Trump's problem is he's too famous in some ways.

Andy McCarthy

I mean, the problem is that unlike almost any other defendant he goes into, you know, one of the things that they can always say about him is he's the most famous guy in the world. And no matter where you had the case, you would have the same pretrial publicity problems. And they kind of reject out of hand the thought that because a jurisdiction votes substantially against Trump as a political matter, that that means they can't be fair to him as a legal matter. You know, you can, you can debate that all you want about whether that's a sensible distinction to draw or not, but it, but it is the distinction the courts draw. Okay, so what do you think is coming down the pike on this?

Glenn Beck

I. Based on, I think the. Go ahead. Yeah. I think that they will send the case back to Judge Chukin with instructions to go through the indictment and figure out what, say, what's a public act and what's a private act.

Andy McCarthy

If Smith wants to fight on that, then he's never going to get to trial prior to election day, which, of course, is his big aim, because this would still be a live immunity claim. And immunity is one of the few things that you can actually appeal pre trial. So I don't see how he would get to trial, but I do think Smith, if he wants to, and if it's that important to him to get to trial quickly, he could say, you know what? I'm going to dispense with all of the acts that you say are immunized, official presidential acts, and we'll just go on the trial, go to trial on the private stuff. It would be a weaker case for him, but it wouldn't be an unwinnable case.

Glenn Beck

And what is the punishment? Well, that's a, that's an interesting question, because that may depend on another Supreme Court case this term, the one that they argued a week before on the obstruction statute. That's key to Trump's case. That obstruction statute has a 20 year penalty, and it's the two main counts in the indictment against Trump. The other two counts only have, I think, five year penalties.

Andy McCarthy

So if the Supreme Court says that it rejects the way the Justice Department has been using the obstruction statute, which it might, then that would require probably a big overhaul of Smith's case because those charges are very important to him. But if the court upholds that statute, which it also might. Then you're looking at a potential of 40 years imprisonment. Now, he won't get 40 years, but statutorily, there would be availability of 40 years imprisonment on those charges. And I think ten on the other two.

The other two are fraud on the United States and the civil rights charge. So he'd be looking at, you know, statutorily, 50 years imprisonment, which would, which would indicate under the sentencing guidelines that he would get, I would think, you know, four, five, six years of a sentence if he gets convicted on those charges. Unbelievable. You know, last week, the Biden administration was making the case. Well, Donald Trump's the only one that's ever broken the law.

Glenn Beck

That's why we've never had this before. That's such crap, and we all know it.

Why haven't we had this problem before?

Andy McCarthy

I think a lot of the criminal, the potentially prosecutable criminal conduct has come up late in presidential terms. Like, for example, with Clinton. The pardon scandal happened as he was going out the door. And I was in the Justice Department at the time. There was a, you know, there was over a year of pretty intense debate within the Justice Department about whether he ought to be charged with bribery or not in connection with those pardons.

But I think there's a, there's always been, maybe this has changed now, but there's always been a current of, like, when a new administration comes in, particularly if it's a new administration of a different party, they don't want to revisit what happened with the last guy. They want to just go ahead on their own stuff. This whole idea of, we're looking forward, we're not looking back. And I think that certainly had a lot to do with why the Bush Justice Department didn't prosecute Clinton. And I think with Obama, there was a lot of rhetoric during the 2008 campaign about war crimes against Bush and all that stuff.

But when they got into power, they not only weren't interested in prosecuting anyone on war crimes, I mean, they reopened the CIA investigation, but then they closed it. But they actually ended up adopting a lot of Bush Cheney counterterrorism. So, you know, I think there's a lot of rhetorical campaign stuff about how lock her up and we're gonna put these guys in jail, but that it doesn't come to pass. I actually think Trump is serious about it this time because he sees what they've done to him. And that's why I thought it was amusing in the Supreme Court argument for the government lawyers to get up and say, you know, you don't have to worry about this.

This is just Suey generous with Trump. It'll never happen again. And in the meantime, Trump is ahead in the polls and he's running as the retribution candidate. He's promising if he gets in, he's. Going to do this stuff.

Right. So it's an amazing time to be alive. Right? More with Andy McCarthy here in just a second. Standby.

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Andy, tell me about how Alvin Bragg's doing so far. It's a terrible case, I think. I wrote a column about this today called how Judge merchant is orchestrating Trump's conviction. And I was reminded of the fact that Trump, when he was a young guy, learned a lot about litigation from Roy Cohn. You know what Cohn used to say his first principle of hardball litigation was?

Andy McCarthy

Don't tell me what the law is, tell me who the judge is. And I think Trump knows that. He knows it very well. And as I'm closely watching the rulings that are being made and the arguments that the judge is allowing to be made, it's clear that he has allowed brag. Just so people understand, Glenn, this case is indicted as a falsification of business records that occurred in the months of February through December of 2017.

Those are the only charges in the indictment. The case is being presented to the jury as a conspiracy from 2015 through 2017 to steal the 2016 election by violations of federal campaign finance law, which Alvin Bragg, as a state prosecutor, has no authority to enforce. And that's the way the case has been framed by the prosecutor based on orders from the judge, and that is the way that they are proceeding. And judge, Judge Merchand is allowing the state to prove that Michael Cohen pled guilty to two campaign finance offenses and that David Pecker, the AMI guy who, you know, ran the National Enquirer, that they had a non prosecution agreement from the Justice Department and then paid a fine of $180,000 to the Federal Election Commission for violating federal election law. Now, those, it's a black letter principle of law that one person's, let's say person a, his guilty plea is not admissible evidence against person b.

Even if a says that a and b acted together, it's absolutely improper for these, for this evidence of what Michael Cohen and David Pecker were thinking about the federal election laws, the fact that they made deals with the government, none of that stuff should come in. The judge is letting it in. And he's not letting Trump explain to the jury that he, Trump was not charged by the Justice Department or the SEC. And the reason is obvious. They didn't think that these were actually expenditures that were cognizable under the, under the federal law.

And he's also not letting Trump call an expert witness to explain campaign law to the jury. So what the jury's going to hear about campaign law is going to come from Michael Cohen and David Pecker. So it's a far speaker one. How is this a fair trial if you can't call people and you can't let the jury know truly the other side of it? Yeah, it's, look, it's even more fundamentally unfair than that, because in the United States, under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, you are entitled.

If you're going to be charged with a felony, it's got to be on the basis of an indictment returned by a grand jury that, that explicitly says what the charge is. The indictment in this case talks about, you know, false bookkeeping in 2017, the case that's being presented to the jury is a conspiracy to violate the federal election laws. It's, it's mind boggling that it's being permitted. Wow. Andy, thank you so much.

Glenn Beck

I appreciate it. This would definitely lose in a higher court, don't you think? I do, but I think it'll be cold comfort. I mean, Harvey Weinstein scheme's conviction just got reversed last week. I think that took three years.

Yeah. All right, Andy, thank you so much. God bless thanks, man. Andy McCarthy, more in just a second with the news of the day.

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Justin Heskins, great friend to the program, great friend to Liberty, and the co author of the Great Reset and Dark Future. Hello, Justin, how are you? I'm doing well, Glenn. How are you? I'm good.

So you have been working with Mercury one on something for a while now, and I'm really excited that we can announce it today. So have at it. Yeah. I am so excited for this program. This is something that I have been dreaming about for many years, going back to when we first started looking at the great reset and Davos and all of the things that the World Economic Forum had been up to.

Justin Haskins

One of the things that we learned about was something called the Young Global Leaders program. This is a program that the World Economic Forum has had in place for three decades where they've created a pipeline of young leaders to go into the public policy field, into journalism, into business, all embedded with the Davos ideology. So these are the cream of the crop. People in business, government, et cetera, all over the world. Justin Trudeau, Emmanuel Macron, the president of France, people in the Biden administration, cabinet level people have all gone through this program.

And we don't have anything like this on the right. We don't have any of the good guys doing something like this. And so I came up with this idea and pitched it to Mercury one to create a program that we're calling the Freedom Rising Fellowship program, where we're going to train the best and brightest young people aged 21 to 35 to create this pipeline into journalism, into business, into public policy, especially in think tanks and government so that people are embedded with the values of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, that those people are going to be the next generation of american leaders that are going to fight back against the Davos agenda. And so that's the program that we're launching with Mercury one. Our very first session is starting in June.

We're in the recruiting process right now. This is the first time we're speaking about this publicly. It's going to be for a four month period. You're going to have to work your butt off, okay? Because I'm going to work you like crazy.

If you want to be in this program, you're going to be working closely with me and my team, and we're going to teach you how to do everything from speak on radio and television to writing op eds for major print publications to informing lawmakers about new legislation and most importantly, to discover the new issues, the emerging issues that no one has ever heard of, like the great reset and ESG and things like that, so that you can have a real impact on society. So if you want to save the country, this is an opportunity to do that. If you're interested, you can go to justinhaskins.com. Later in the week. You'll be able to go to mercury one.org and find more information about that.

And if you go to justinhaskins.com right now, you can see all the information about the program and how to apply. So, Justin, I know you're going to be teaching how to speak on the radio, and you're going to have journalism experts there to teach journalism. And I've noticed that. I'm just looking down at my calendar. There's not a single thing on my calendar all summer long.

This is really awkward. It's very awkward. Yes. Very awkward.

You know what, Glenn? You're always invited. Yeah, I know. Yeah, sure. In my own building.

Glenn Beck

That's good. Thank you. Let me ask you this, Justin. Are we, these new fellows, are they going to have access to the entire library of Mercury one and wall builders? Yeah, absolutely.

Justin Haskins

And not only are they going to have access to it, they're going to be working. They're essentially going to be part of my team. They're going to be working on a day to day basis on new and emerging issues, on doing research, on getting that research to public policymakers, on getting that information to the public. So this isn't just a training program. This is like a job almost.

I mean, and that's, it's huge commitment to take on. But if you're willing to do it, you're going to be part of something really special. And then after the program is over, we're going to create this. For this one four month session, we're going to do many of these going forward. You're going to become part of a network of young people, just like the WEF's young global leaders program, so that you can help each other going forward for the rest of your career.

So that's, that's really the vision that I have for building this out over the long run. So it's like Yale Skull and bones without the evil. Absolutely. Yeah. Good.

Glenn Beck

All right. Good. Yeah, you get it. So, so what are you looking for in people 21 to 34 years old or 35 years old? What are you looking for?

Justin Haskins

So the biggest thing is, if you have a passion for public policy, you need to be able to communicate, especially write and do research. But the biggest thing is that passion for public policy. You need to be interested in doing detailed investigation, in pouring through boring old documents to find something that's really important, pouring through videos, video footage and podcasts and all of that stuff, all the things that you and I and our research team have been doing for years and years and years, it takes a lot of hard work. It isn't easy, these things, but if you have that passion for it, that's going to be the most important thing. We can teach you a lot of the other skills, but we can't teach the passion.

So you got to want to be willing to devote yourself to this for the rest of your career. So if this isn't something that you're interested in going into for your whole career and you just think this might be an interesting thing to do for a summer or, you know, whatever, this is not going to be the program for you. And we do have programs for people like that, that just, they want to know the truth about America or her history, but don't necessarily, you know, are not necessarily looking to make their whole life about, you know, Washington or policies or something like that. We have a program that is separate at Mercury one from this. This is for a fellowship.

Glenn Beck

And I, can I tell you, I, I have, I have people in Washington all the time that ask for briefings on the things that we do know here at the show, and you will have access to some very high ranking people. You know, if you're the, if you are the hard workers, you're the ones that are discovering and putting it all together and briefing not only people like me, but also people in Washington. It's a great start. Yeah, that's exactly right. We're going to ask that people sign a confidentiality agreement with when they join the program because you're going to see a lot of really important information.

Justin Haskins

You're going to see things that lawmakers are saying. You're going to have access to, research that nobody has access to. And so we're really inviting you in to the club. How are you, how are you going to make sure, I mean, I know we do vetting for our summer program for college students, and so far I think we've only had one person that we were like, okay, you need to go, but how are you, like, what questions are you asking? What should people expect?

Yeah, I mean, there's going to be, so the application itself is pretty simple and straightforward. But after we've identified sort of the most promising candidates, we're going to have long, detailed conversations with you. And I assure you we will know for sure if you are, if you share our values or if you don't share our values. I don't think that that's going to be too much of a problem because of how detailed those conversations are going to be, multiple stages of interviews and things like that, because we really do want the most dedicated, the best, the brightest and the most, and the people who share our ideological values. It's fantastic.

Glenn Beck

Again, you can go later to mercury one.org dot. They were a little busy with the tornadoes today, which, by the way, we have, we have a goal of raising $50,000 just for the tornadoes today. If you, if you want to donate, please donate. We've got people on the ground already, but we need some extra help because it's three states. So if you want to donate, go to mercury one.org.

And that's where you'll find the information about this new fellowship for a new generation of leaders. We want to really up our game on this and be able to help train the future leaders of tomorrow. And so Justin and Mercury one have put together freedom rising fellowship, the Freedom rising Fellowship program. And you can get all the information at Justin Haskins, is that right? Yeah, justinhuskins.com.

Justin Haskins

And you can also email fellowshipercury one.org right now. You can email that if you're interested in applying and we'll make sure you have everything that you need. Right. We'll need a resume, two writing samples, brief statement explaining why you're interested in joining the program. That'll be the first hurdle.

Glenn Beck

And just go to fellowshipercury one.org dot send us everything, and we'll be in touch. Justin, really excited about this. We'll talk to you probably, again, get some more detail later this week if we can, Justin. Yeah, sounds great. How are you feeling about ESG and all of the things that we've been working on?

Justin Haskins

Oh, boy. How much time do I have? About two minutes. Okay. About two minutes.

So I have a confession to make. A couple of months ago, made the mistake of sending you an email telling you how excited I was about some things that were happening in Europe. And you went on the air and, you know, you bashed me and you. Said, well, you know, he's young. He's young.

Glenn Beck

I remember when I was young and naive. Yes, yes. And so it turns out that european ESG, gigantic government run scheme that we've been talking about for years that I thought was dead has come back from the dead. And now apparently, it is on the fast track to being passed. It's already been passed by parliament now.

Justin Haskins

And so it's got, like one more tiny little hurdle to clear, and that's going to be truly one of the biggest fights that we have going forward on the ESG bow. So I really thought we were, the tide had turned in our favor, and now I'm feeling a little less optimistic. With that said, in America, some really good things have happened over the past couple of years. This year we got a bill passed in Tennessee. You would talk to the lawmaker there, Rep.

Jason Zachary. That's now been signed into law by the governor there. So that's the second toughest anti ESG law that we have in America, the toughest being in Florida. So that's a really positive development. But this european ESG mandatory system is going to bring in all of these companies in the United States.

It's going to catch up a bunch of businesses, even, that don't do business in Europe, but do business with someone that does business in Europe. Supply chain law. And it is probably the most dangerous ESG, social credit scoring system thing that we've had to face yet. All right. Can you, can you hold on?

Glenn Beck

Do you have time to hold on? Because I want you to explain that. And if you don't have time, I can explain it, but I do. Okay, good. Hang on just a second, because what happens in Europe on this is critical.

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So as Justin was saying, Justin Haskins from the Heartland foundation is with us announcing a new fellowship at mercury one.org dot. More details on that. But we were talking about ESG. And ESG has been rumored to be going away over in Europe, but it is just a game. Their elections are coming through in, I think, June and July, and those are major elections, and I think you're going to start seeing it rear its ugly head again.

But Justin just said that in Europe they are passing, and these are draconian. This is ESG on steroids. This is the real deal. And it has all kinds of ramifications for America and american workers. Can you explain that, Justin?

Justin Haskins

Yeah. So in Europe, they don't call it ESG they call it due diligence. So if you want to look this up, look for due diligence. European Union. And what you're going to find is a supply chain law.

That's how they're selling this, a human rights supply chain law. But essentially what it is, is it's a way for the European Union to create a government mandated social credit scoring system, ESG system, and then to impose it on most of the rest of the world. And the way they're going to do this is by creating these requirements that say, if you want to do business in Europe, you have to adhere to our ESG system, that we're going to create a government created ESG system. You have to adhere to it. Full of all kinds of social justice provisions, climate change alarmism, Paris climate agreement, all that stuff.

You have to adhere to it. But not only do you have to adhere to it if you do business in Europe. So an american company doing business in Europe would have to adhere to it. But also you have to make sure that many of the businesses in your supply chain, regardless of where they're located, also have to adhere to it. So Ford, for example, Ford does a lot of business in Europe.

They will have to adhere to the EU's ESG system, but they'll also have to make sure that all the companies they do business with in America, or the vast majority of them, also adhere to various parts of this ESG system. So you could be some rubber plant in Youngstown, Ohio, and you're going to get caught up in this, even if you don't do business in Europe. Jason, Justin, thank you so much. Justin Haskins. He is the co author of my book, Dark Future and the great Reset, and is working closely now with us on a new fellowship.

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Joe Biden is fading fast on so many levels, but in the polls, he is just getting hammered. He is. He has the worst polls of any president since we've been taking polls in the last 70 years. The worst. Now, the New York Times said people are just becoming nostalgic.

They just gotta, you know, I like those good old days when we had Donald Trump in and he stood for something. Yeah. Is it nostalgia or, or is it just that what he did worked and what Joe Biden did is not working in any way, shape, or form? We'll talk about that and talk with Selena Zito, who is a reporter who was really the one who captured the 2016 Donald Trump a win and really spoke to it again in 2020. I am interested to see what she has to say.

She doesn't take polls or anything, but she, she doesn't fly places. She drives places. And so she is in the rural communities and gets a real sense of what's happening in those communities. We're going to talk to Selena about the election here and Donald Trump and especially what Joe Biden did by suing a hometown favorite gas station. We'll talk to her about that coming up in just a second.

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How are you? Good morning, sunshine. How are you? I'm good. So you're, you were out on the road with Joe Biden and Donald Trump, and things couldn't be more different for the two.

But you're in Pennsylvania, and the week that Donald Trump came into, I think it was a chick fil a. He just said chick fil A on me for everybody. And it was a really cool gesture. Then a few days later, Joe Biden did something and take us through what he did, not only there at the restaurant, but the next day. So just so, Trump was actually in Atlanta when he went.

Pat Gray

However, the next day he was in Pennsylvania, in the Lehigh Valley. Now, I just want to explain why Lehigh Valley is important, is a working class area. It's a swing district. It's also a heavily hispanic district. And we've noticed how Hispanics have moved to become more conservative.

Anyways, to the point there were 42,000 people there, 42,000. That's a lot of people in the Lehigh Valley. For a Republican, I think that's important to note. And it's in the middle of what I call the middle of somewhere, but where most people call the middle of nowhere. And that is also important because there is an intuition, whether you like Trump or not, there's been a very good intuition, is to show up in places that people don't expect you to and earning votes.

Now let's contrast that to what Biden did. He went to very, three very specific safe areas where he knows he's going to win the vote. There is not going to be a rally. These are elected people and sort of party people that come to all of these events in Scranton and Philadelphia, in Pittsburgh, it was union leaders. Now, remember, that's very different than rank and file.

And so these events were very orchestrated, very minimally attended. And what was really fascinating to me was that he had a message about something. And Wall street people I don't know. I mean, that's people I don't even know. Like, I looked at, I watched his message.

I'm like, I don't, I don't know. Why did nobody tell you that? People are not upset about Wall street people, but they really, really upset about inflation. And then he goes to Pittsburgh, and I saw the most extraordinary thing. There were two sets of protesters outside.

A robust level of protesters on one side were like, independent and republican voters saying, hey, hey, ho, ho, Bidenomics has to go. They were singing at the same time with pro hamas people, not together, but they were using the chant at the same time who were saying, hey, hey, ho, ho, genocide. Joe has got to go. My brain was scrambled by that. And so, but Biden made the safe bet.

He went to the places where he thinks he needs to bring his base back. Trump went to places where he needs to earn new voters. What's the difference between the two of them in Pennsylvania? And I think in a state that's registration, democratic registration has dropped dramatically from 2020, where it was 600,000 advantage over Republicans, Democrats, to now 389,000 Republicans. Holy cow.

Democrats, Democrats still have the advantage, but there's a whole heck of a lot of people. Holy cow. That's a lot of people to lose. So go ahead. Well, I think what's important, Glenn, to pay attention to, people are looking for this big moment, right?

In particular, politicians and strategists. This big moment that's going to change everything. I believe as the way that it is going, it is tiny little cuts that are hurting Biden. It is the closing. Oh, my God.

It was so heartbreaking watching that Wheerton, West Virginia steel plant that has been around for 120 years closed down on Friday. And you say, oh, West Virginia, who cares? Well, guess what? People from Ohio, that's a panhandle. People from Ohio and Pennsylvania work there.

And it was closed down because of a tear because the Biden administration refused. I'm going to, I might mix this up with another tariff problem. But anyways, it didn't give american steel an even playing field. So they had a close. And so it's that kind of tiny little cut.

It is the pausing of the liquid natural gas, which doesn't just impact people in the industry or even people that are downstream of it, like barbershops and machine shops and hotels. And so forth. It also impacts farmers. Why people don't think about this. But farmers are profoundly impacted by the liquid natural gas being paused because they have leases on their land, often times with natural gas facilities on their extractions on their land.

Oftentimes these leases are what keep these farms going. So I think it's really important. And then there's 45 b. It is the, it's the IR's tax code, only implemented in Pennsylvania or impacting Pennsylvania. That is going to keep us from getting that big hydrogen plant that he came to the states, that Biden came to the state to brag about losing billions of dollars and thousands of jobs.

So these are the tiny and then sheets. I mean, why do you go after sheets? People don't know who sheet. What sheets is. That is a belt of gas stations kind of like Bucky's is in the south.

Glenn Beck

It's beloved. It's just, it's just good service, et cetera, et cetera. And this is where he bought the sandwiches for the workers on Friday. On a Friday he goes on a Thursday he goes in and buys a bunch of sandwiches. Clear.

Pat Gray

He's never been in a sheet or a gas station. And he, the next day the administration sues sheets. Forget this. Enforcing criminal background checks on all of their employees. Why?

Because they said it's racist. Which, by the way, I think if I were a minority, I'd be highly insulted that you think, you know, no minority can pass a criminal background check. It's just insulting. Not only, not only did he pull that out as a race card, he has now retracted his war on menthol cigarettes because he is afraid that's going to hurt his black base because I guess all black people smoke are menthol cigarettes. And so, you know, I'll kill you, you know, over time.

Glenn Beck

But I, I just, I just need your vote this time around. It's, it's just, it's just astounding. So what is your gut tell you? And I know we're a long way away, but they seem so confident, so confident. What does your gut tell you that is coming?

Because I cannot believe that still there's 42, you know, 42% of the country that says, yeah, I'm, I'm for Joe Biden. Well, you know, there are people that will always vote Democrat. They just will. I think they were called yellow dog democrats in the south or blue dogs. No, yellow dog democrats in the south.

Pat Gray

And that's the preference. It always will be. And then there are others who just cannot abide Trump's comportment however, you are seeing people that are, that have left him in 2020 and post 2021 that are coming back because people decide on their lives and their livelihoods and their communities. Those are the things that impact them. They look at the pocketbook.

They look around in their lives. And I feel as though I am reliving 2016 all over again. 2020 did not feel this way. I don't know if you remember having me on. I was hesitant to say that Trump would win.

And much of that had to do with COVID and how, and all the things that surrounded COVID. There were millions of things that impacted it. And also, that September 29 debate wasn't his best moment. And a lot of people had voted right after that, early voting. So I think that this 2024 is much more similar to 2016.

It feels very much that is something that is Trump's to lose. What remains to be his most important asset is his understanding that he needs to earn votes. Okay. Do you remember years ago, Billy Joel had that song, Allentown, and everyone across the country sang the song with earnest and heart, not because they loved Allentown, but because they saw their city in that song. They saw themselves reflected that loss of community and jobs.

Trump intuitively understands that while he is in Harlem campaigning or at a construction site campaigning, he isn't just campaigning in those places. He is campaigning with the backdrop of a reflection of what a thousand different cities look like across the country. And he intuitively understands that. And it's interesting to me that he makes those kind of choices, and Biden makes the choices that he has that doesn't earn him new votes. He is quite brilliant at sensing the pulse and knowing it.

Glenn Beck

And I'm so glad because I really, I think your opinion matters so much because you don't. You're not hanging out with experts. You're hanging out with people in the rural areas. And so you just have a better sense. And I'm so glad to hear that you say this is feeling more like 2016 than 2020.

If you can hang on just a second, I want to talk to you a little bit about Pennsylvania and what they've done to clean up the vote, if anything, because that's, that, I think is the main concern of people, really. I think on both sides. We just, we want a clean, fair election. But there has been this, this all of government decree that has gone out to bring in new voters. We hear, you know, about, you know, illegals voting, et cetera, et cetera.

I want to hear about what you think in Pennsylvania, how well they have done if anything to clean up the vote this time around. Back in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about the IFCJ. That is the International Federation of Christians and Jews. And there has never been a better time in the history of the state of Israel when they have needed our help more.

And you know what? They don't want us fighting their war. They're not asking for that. They're really asking for, can you just support us in what we do? Can you just let us defend ourselves, please?

Yes. In fact, I'd like to go a step further. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews been helping out Israel for a long, long, long time. But October 7 really changed everything. And right now they're trying to build not fallout shelters, but bomb shelters at all of the bus stops.

Now this is where people who are going to and from work and kids who are going to and fro school, this is where they stand.

Many of these kids are up north. Many of these kids are standing there when a rocket goes off. I've been in one of these shelters under rocket attack and they're pretty incredible. They'll $15,000 each. That's an awful lot of money.

But it's a way to show our support and way to actually help them in a way that's tangible. If you could donate the full amount for one of these shelters, great. They'll put your name on it and everything if that's what you would like. But if you could just do one, you know, one donation of $5 or $5 a month, it would certainly help support ifcj.org. That's the web address.

Support ifcj.org dot ten second Station ID so, Selena, everybody is concerned about the theft of an election. And the best thing we can do is shore that up. So whoever wins, we know we can trust the election. How are you doing in Pennsylvania on this? Pretty well.

Pat Gray

SHaPiro Governor Joe Shapiro, Democrat they've done a good job of clearing out the voter rolls, meaning the dead people. And also it's done on a county by county effort. This is a general mix of Democrats, county executives and Republicans, or like a three person commissioner. And they've all done a fairly nonpartisan good job. Republicans, by the way, this is really kind of funny.

So in October, Governor Shapiro made it easier to change your voter registration or to register to vote by doing it with, when you get your new driver's license or you get, you know, you renew your driver's license. And I thought it was pretty funny that Republic, some Republicans, like, flipped out and said, this is going to get more democrats. There are 55,000 new Republicans within the first month of that law being enacted. So I think right now it is. While the Democrats still hold a majority in the state, Republicans have been doing a robust effort, not just on a grassroots level.

You see them everywhere, but you also have seen that on their own, they're doing it on their own. They go to change their driver's license picture and they're like, oh, I can change my voter registration or I can vote, register to vote if they're a young person. So for once in a blue moon, the Republicans have actually done a good job of taking advantage of all the technology but also the enthusiasm that is on their back. If you had to, and I wouldn't hold you to this because it's so far away, but if it were being held today, how would it end in Pennsylvania right now? I mean, it's super close.

It's going to be super close. However, I would at this moment give the edge to Trump because of the small cuts, the tiny little cuts that I've been talking about, the LNG pause, the 45 volts, the closing of the, of the steel mill, the sheets, these tiny little things that, and inflation. Inflation is the biggest thing in this state. Costs are soaring and they haven't stopped. And they're insulted when everyone tells you the economy is fine.

Look, it's not 2008. 2008, the issue was jobs. We have jobs. It's not the job. Some people are working a lot of jobs because they can't afford basic costs.

Glenn Beck

Selena, thank you so much. We'll talk again. God bless Selena Zito. You can, you can find her at selena zito.com. Selena Zito.com.

She is, I mean, she really has her finger on the pulse, especially in Pennsylvania where she is from and spends a lot of her time. But she's listening to people. And that's, that's the one thing that I feel like our government doesn't do anymore. They don't listen to people. You know, we used to say, I don't want a president that is, you know, going by the polls.

I don't know. It would be nice once in a while if he would just open up the windows of the White House to hear the chants all around the White House and the protesters, you know, because they don't seem to be listening to us. All right. A guy who is running for Mitt Romney's seat next, Glenn Beck. When frequent pain has you back up against the ropes, it's time to come out swinging.

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America, I'd like to introduce you to somebody who I hope will be replacing Mitt Romney. If not him, at least someone of his background and belief in the constitution. Trent Staggs is now the US Senate candidate. He is the mayor of Riverton, Utah. Most people would go he, I don't know.

Well, let's just say this. It's one of the few cities in the country, if not the world, that would not enforce the lockdowns during COVID-19 at the GOP convention. It is a crowded, crowded primary, but he is the two term mayor and 70% of the delegates supported him in the final round of voting yesterday. We welcome him to the program or Saturday. How are you, sir?

Trent Staggs

Glenn I'm fantastic. It's great to be with you. Thank you, Trent. I have, I just have a few questions and they're kind of tough. I don't mean to, but I don't want to waste anybody's time here.

Glenn Beck

The Mitt Romney, if you're going against, you know, or for his seat, what are the things that really hacked you off on policies with Mitt Romney? What do you disagree with him on? Boy, I don't know. How much time have we got here?

Trent Staggs

I announced, you know, I was the one that stood alone in this race. I entered last May and I had the stated goal of unseating Mitt Romney to primary him of course, he made the decision late September not to seek reelection. But I called out several things. He made promises that he would balance the budget, that he would end illegal immigration. He claimed in his launch video five and a half years ago, he said he would stop federal spending and overreach and that he would confirm conservative justices to the court.

Well, we know that's not his record. It's just been shockingly 180 degrees from that. So I think with respect to all of the above, I mean, the budget, we're going to hold the line. I made a contract with Utah that I am not going to vote for any omnibus spending bills. I mean, we just, we don't have any time anymore.

We've got to get back to process. We've got to break what Senator Lee has entitled the firm where four individuals are back there behind closed doors and putting together thousand page plus pages of legislation and budget and throwing it on the members desks and saying, you've got 24 hours to pass this thing. I mean, that has to stop. I think it's unbecoming a self governing nation to have four individuals do that and circumvent thereby all of our elected representatives. Let's get back to process, get this budget under order, get back to pre COVID spending levels, and let's close this border and let's take a wrecking ball to the regulatory state.

With my business background and have experience with that, those things would really get us back on track and unleash this american economy. So do you see yourself as a partner with Mike Lee? Because that wasn't happening with Romney. It wasn't. And that was so unfortunate.

I mean, we saw him cancel with respect to many of the major votes, cancel our other, our great senator here, Mike Lee. And that's what I indicated to folks from day one. Hey, if you want another Mitt Romney, don't vote for me. If you want another Mike Lee, I'm your guy. I'm going to align myself rather consistently.

I pledged to join the Freedom Caucus equivalent of the Senate. They called the executive steering committee. And Senator Tuberville, who came out recently and endorsed my campaign, he basically laid out, look, we've got only 18 of 49 republican senators right now that even, you know, are part of this, this committee. And we need to get to a majority within our own caucus. We've got to have the majority there.

And that way we ensure we do not elect a Mitch McConnell 2.0 as Senate majority leader and we're able to advance, advance an american first agenda. So what would you say to people that would say, yeah, I've heard this before. Mitt Romney is an example. I've heard this before. And then you guys get there and you don't do it.

Glenn Beck

Why are you different? Why should we believe you? Trent well, I've had that question several times over the last eleven months on the campaign trail. And I've told folks, look, talk to any Riverton resident where I'm mayor, you outlined several things where I've stood up to the establishment within our own state during lockdowns, during COVID madness, where we said, absolutely not, we're going to protect people's constitutionality and their rights. We said no to lockdowns, mandates of all kinds.

Trent Staggs

I've fought ESG in our community. I've fought inappropriate materials in school and addressing school boards and making change there. So I've stood up time and time again and not just in the way that I was the only one to challenge Mitt Romney and stand up to McConnell. We called him out months ago. And so I've got a consistent pattern of this.

It isn't something that's just new. But at the same time, I have garnered some endorsements across the country from national conservative voices and great people in elected office. Donald Trump just endorsed you. We just got the endorsement of President Trump. How phenomenal to get that Saturday morning right before the convention.

And so that, I hope, is also a sign of you are going to keep me accountable here in Utah, delegates and citizens. But I've got a group back there that's going to have my back. And they pledge to that we're going to support one another and we're going to finally get this done. What's your wife's name? How long you been married?

Alicia. My wife Alicia and I have been married for 17 years now. We've got two incredible children. I've got a 14 year old son, eleven year old daughter. And I'm telling you, that's the reason why we're running.

When I announced my candidacy, Glenn, we were 32 trillion in debt, 32. Now, not even a year later, 35 trillion. And estimates are we're going to hit 50 trillion by 2030. So within the term of the senate. Yeah, it's, once we do that, it's a nightmare.

Glenn Beck

Yeah, we're out of options, really. We're almost out of options now. So what are the top two things that you say I will die on my sword for? Well, it's, my top two is the border and budget. I mean, we've got to get this border in control.

Trent Staggs

It's amazing to me. I met with ice in Salt Lake City. They've got over 150,000 active cases. They're working here. It's just so porous.

There are so many problems related to crime and just, it's unbelievable to me the amount of impact that's having, not just financially, but otherwise here, it's really wreaking havoc on this country. We've got to get back to border wall, remain in Mexico, Mexico e verify cutting off benefits to illegal immigrants. We've got to support what I believe will be President Trump's second term here in office. Get back. He has to get back into office.

And then the budget, getting back to process. I mean, we, since 1974, the Congressional Budget act, we're supposed to have twelve appropriations subcommittees. There's supposed to be ample opportunity for debate and amendment with the firm. That hasn't happened. We haven't had a balanced budget since 2001.

It's insane. Just by getting, getting us back to that process, I believe that we'll get our budget in order. We'll stop digging the hole. We have to do that right away. Where are we in the life cycle of the republic?

Oh, well, that's interesting you asked that question. I mean, my big mailer that we put out to delegates said that great nations fall. And it had a picture of us and Rome side by side. And it just said, great nations fall when they inflate their money, forget their values, and lose control of their borders. And that's where we are right now.

We've got to, we've got to get back. I share your assessment that the Runway is not very, we don't have a lot of time here left to course. Correct. But we do. We've got to jump in there.

We've got to elect people that are serious and are willing to, as you say, just die on the sword for this. So your local paper in Salt Lake, the Tribune, did an article on christian nationalism and said that members of the latter day Saint community are more likely to be christian nationalists.

Glenn Beck

How would you define what christian nationalism is that they're talking about? I don't know. I try not to read the Tribune, quite frankly. Okay. Yeah, it's likewise with that in the New York Times.

And. Yes, well, I think they may be. Referring to a belief in the judeo christian values that founded this nation. I believe it. I believe that we were founded on biblical principles.

Trent Staggs

And, you know, we could spend a lot of time talking about that and reversion back to God. And that's something we did here. Even in my own city, we re instituted an invocation at the outset of every city council meeting. That was one of my first order of business as mayor, because we have got to, we've got to get back to that, those founding principles and recognize the hand of Providence here in the establishment of this nation, and that we need his help in order to restore, he have a restoration of those founding principles in this nation. So I'd like to sit with you on christian nationalism at some point.

Glenn Beck

What you described was the founding of our country and the way it's supposed to run. Christian nationalism is entirely different. And the left is intentionally confusing people and asking people very, very vague questions like, are you a christian nationalist? And they answer it the way you do, but that's not the intent. This is a really dangerous thing because they're going to sweep all christians in to this at some point.

And there are those. Christian nationalism is a belief that this is a system that is wholly inadequate for a non religious and non moral people, as the founder said. Thus, we have to have a new system, and it needs to be based solely on Christianity, and it needs to be run, church and state combined until we can gather enough steam to be able to be responsible again. I think it's an incredible dangerous thing. The, the only thing that I am a Christian and I believe in our founding documents, and I want to return to our founding documents.

One last question. Your competitor, John Curtis has for an eight week primary sprint, he has about $7 million. Do you have the money and the staying power to be beat that because we, we want a conservative in, we don't want another Mitt Romney? Well, absolutely, yes. I mean, we will to date.

Trent Staggs

You know, the last FEC report showed Curtis with about 1.3 million cash on hand. We're, we're trailing that at a half a million or so. We, you know, getting, getting an endorsement from President Trump just a couple of days ago. So, as you know, we've already seen an incredible amount of people go to trentstags.com, either donate or open up to volunteer. We've got thousands and thousands of donors and volunteers across the state taking the convention at 70%.

That's a real, we can't underestimate the importance of the grassroots efforts. But my phone has been going off the hook here recently, and we've got so many commitments for people now that are donating, putting in fundraisers. And these are true patriots. These are people that recognize, oh, wow, we do have somebody that we can ensure replaces Mitt Romney with a true constitutional conservative. And somebody that's going to go back there and partner, you'll yoke up with Senator Lee and really try to save this country.

I don't think it's hyperbolic to say that we're at a real critical juncture here. It's there. It's all hanging by a thread. Trent, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

Glenn Beck

What was the website again? Trent staggs.com. It's s t a g g s. Trent Staggs.com dot thank you very much, Trent. I appreciate it.

Congratulations. Quite a showing this weekend at the convention. Quite a showing. Thank you. Thank you, Glenn.

Trent Staggs

Appreciate it. You bet. Bye bye.

Glenn Beck

One thing I can tell you is from all, everybody I speak to, the guy is a rock solid constitutional conservative, and that's what we need. And there's somebody else that is running who is also very conservative, and I take either of them honestly. This is the first time I've had a chance to speak with Trent, and I think he, I think he did well. All right. Let me tell you about our final sponsor, Sarah, who is our final sponsor?

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Well, there's a few things that were in the news today. That's in our newsletter. You'll find them today. Some pretty fascinating stuff is going on. For instance, how much do you think Ford Motors is losing on every electric vehicle they build and sell?

Well, I mean, just losing money. The goal of a company is to profit. Obviously, this is new technology. Very exciting. So they're pro.

Stu Burguiere

I would assume they're profiting off of each electric. No, they're not. They're losing money. They're losing money. So how much are they losing?

I mean, $1,000 would be a lot to lose on every vehicle. Not a little higher than that. $5,000 to lose. A little higher than that. How about $130,000 on every ev?

Glenn Beck

That's what Ford is losing. I don't even sell an eevee that costs 130. Oh, I know how this is insanity. By the way, Sophia Bush, we all know, you know, that very famous actor and actress that we. We've all never heard of and don't really care about Sophia Bush.

She has come out as queer, and I don't know what that means anymore. I used to think that was the L and the g, but it's not now. So I don't know. She may be having sex with aliens. I don't know.

But she was very brave. Very brave. She came out at the White House correspondents dinner, and that's so brave. I mean, there was no one in the room that supported her on that. Let's see.

Iraq, gay marriage. Oh, in Europe, in Germany. In Europe, they're calling for a european and english caliphate. Now, those are the protesters over there, so, you know, it could be worse. We can look at our campuses and say, yeah, they're saying, kill the jews, but at least they're not calling for a caliphate here yet.

There's so much more. We'll get to it again when we meet tomorrow. Until. Until then, God bless the Glenn Beck program.

Trent Staggs

Until then, God bless the Glenn Beck program.

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