Is the 'Never-Biden' Movement REAL? | Guests: AG Andrew Bailey & Rep. Thomas Massie | 5/20/24

Primary Topic

This episode delves into the emergence of the "Never-Biden" sentiment, exploring its validity and implications on current politics.

Episode Summary

In this installment of the Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn Beck, alongside Attorney General Andrew Bailey and Representative Thomas Massie, dissect the burgeoning "Never-Biden" movement, questioning its legitimacy and potential impact on the upcoming electoral cycles. The discussion orbits around the dissatisfaction among voters who regret their choice in the previous election and are pledging not to support President Biden again. Special attention is given to how political affiliations are shifting, potentially reshaping future political landscapes. The episode also features insights on various socio-political issues including economic policies, media biases, and public sentiment towards current governmental strategies.

Main Takeaways

  1. The "Never-Biden" movement is gaining traction, reflecting a significant shift in voter sentiment.
  2. Discussion highlights the perceived failures and disappointments of the Biden administration.
  3. The episode explores how media portrayal influences public perception and political polarizations.
  4. Features a debate on potential long-term impacts of current political dynamics on future elections.
  5. Analyzes the role of misinformation and media bias in shaping public opinion.

Episode Chapters

1: Introduction

Overview of the episode's focus on the "Never-Biden" movement. Glenn Beck: "Exploring today if the 'Never-Biden' sentiment among former supporters is real and what it means for future elections."

2: Main Discussion

Deep dive into the reasons behind the growing disillusionment with President Biden. AG Andrew Bailey: "We're seeing a real shift, not just anecdotal but in hard data, showing people moving away from Biden."

3: Economic Impact

Discussion on the economic policies under the Biden administration affecting everyday Americans. Rep. Thomas Massie: "Economic decisions by this administration have not just theoretical but very real negative impacts on the average American."

4: Media Influence

Exploration of how media bias and reporting styles contribute to public perceptions. Glenn Beck: "Media plays a massive role in either amplifying or suppressing political movements."

5: Conclusion

Summary of discussions and implications for the next election cycle. Glenn Beck: "What we discussed today sets the stage for what could be a very tumultuous election season."

Actionable Advice

  1. Stay informed by consulting multiple news sources to get a well-rounded view of political developments.
  2. Engage in community discussions to better understand the political landscape and its impact on daily life.
  3. Exercise critical thinking when interpreting media messages, especially regarding political content.
  4. Participate in local and national elections to ensure your voice is heard and represented.
  5. Educate others about the importance of informed voting and the impact of political decisions on community welfare.

About This Episode

Is the Never-Biden movement a real threat to Biden's campaign? The guys go through the damages America faces if Biden wins a second term, including higher immigration and more taxes. Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey joins to explain why he's demanding the DOJ turn over documents that could prove Trump's prosecutions are a coordinated effort by the DOJ and the Biden administration. Glenn and AG Bailey also discuss the doxxing of Kansas City Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker by city officials. Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) joins us to discuss why abolishing the Federal Reserve is critical to securing our freedom. Glenn and Stu discuss former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen admitting he stole tens of thousands of dollars from the Trump Organization. Will at least one juror see through this sham trial? Glenn's writer and researcher, Nathan Nipper, joins to discuss his new book, ''American Inheritance.''

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Transcript

Glenn Beck
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Glenn Beck
Have no room to compromise.

Stu
We gotta stand together if we're gonna survive.

Stand up straight.

Glenn Beck
It's a new day. I turn around.

Speaker C
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Glenn Beck
Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. It is Monday, and we have some good news for you. Forget never trumpers, there's now never Biden people, people who have said I've made the biggest mistake of my life.

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We want to welcome Stu and Pat back to the program. I am still recovering from eye surgery, and my doctor told me about a week and a half. She said, you're going to get into about almost two weeks, and you're going to just really want to scratch your eyes out and wonder why you've ever done this. And I am in that period right now. I can barely see. And it is driving me out of my mind.

Can't see anything. It's still all blurry, and it's.

But this, too, shall pass according to this doctor.

Anyway, so Pat is joining me, Stu is joining me today. Thank you so much, guys. We've got a big show lined up for you today. I wanted to start with Donald Trump and the poll numbers. Stu?

Stu
Yeah, I mean, obviously the polling has been pretty solid for Donald Trump here, especially in swing states over the past few months.

And it's been holding pretty, pretty steady. It's a close race, and I think people at times can lose sight of that because of, you see polls here and there that might show him with seven point leads in some of these big states, a twelve point lead in Nevada we saw recently.

But it's still a close race, and he still has to pull off a couple of states and win them that Joe Biden won in 2020.

A couple of interesting things on that front.

He now is on the prediction markets. And we talk about the prediction markets each cycle because they're kind of interesting. It's not what people say. They.

It's not what people are like, put.

Glenn Beck
Your money where your mouth is.

Stu
This is people putting their money. They're betting on the outcomes. So this is really a snapshot, not necessarily of where the race is. It could be totally wrong, but it is a snapshot of what people actually believe.

And what we've seen, generally speaking, throughout this cycle is a pretty close race. Biden may be up by a couple points, then down by a couple of points. Right now, Donald Trump has a 51% chance of winning, uh, the presidency. In second place is Joe Biden at 42%. So a nine point difference, that's about as wide as I've seen it. Um, and I think a lot of that goes back to the positive outcomes that have come or positive perceptions of. Of how this case has gone in New York for Alvin Bragg, where it seems like kind of a catastrophe in the making.

Um, so we have that, uh, looking good for Donald Trump. Do you want the, while we're here, the republican vice presidential odds?

Glenn Beck
Yeah, I do. But I just want to say, you know, you said, you know, this is, this is how people really feel because they're putting their money down. And I just want to say, not necessarily people, but just. Just degenerate gamblers like you.

Stu
Yes. Yeah, that's fair. That is fair.

But those are the people who actually are saying what they believe.

Glenn Beck
Sure, sure. Because they're usually high on crack as well.

Stu
So, hey, that might be true, though. They've done pretty well, as we've noted in the past, as far as predictions go, yeah, they've done pretty well. It's interesting, too, that while you're right, of course, it is just mainly degenerate gamblers that would do things like this.

These people tend to care about the outcome of events, and pundits on tv don't necessarily have that same motivation. Many of them are playing to their base. Many of them are just saying the things they think they need to say to impress whoever they're going to be at a cocktail party next week. So I don't know. I find it at least representative of where we are at this point, honestly.

Glenn Beck
It's red cell. Do you remember that? You remember when the Pentagon, right after 911 did a red cell thing and they said, let's open this up to the market and allow people to bet, you know, internally, not, you know, like a stock exchange, but internally we pick people and allow them to bet money on what they think the next most likely terrorist attack is going to happen. And it became very, very accurate. And then it got out that people were doing that and everybody was like, I'm offended by that. Well, okay. Well, it was a great way to be able to figure out what people thought would be coming next so we could prepare against it. It was. It was actually very successful.

Stu
Yeah, it was. And it does tell you something interesting I should point out, as you're accusing other people of being degenerate gamblers, I should point out that you have a $3,000 bet with me that Michelle Obama is going to be on the top of the ticket.

Glenn Beck
I don't remember that. I do not remember that.

Stu
$3,000.

Glenn Beck
Last I heard, it was two.

Stu
He kept upping it.

Glenn Beck
Three. I don't remember it. Pat. And Pat, America doesn't remember it. I wouldn't either if I made that bet.

I was so confident there for a while. I had him on the rocks, too.

Stu
Now, Glenn, I want to just give you this opportunity as I give you this additional knowledge that on the prediction markets, Michelle Obama is in third place. So, like, it's Donald Trump, 51%, Joe Biden 42%, Michelle Obama 3%.

Glenn Beck
And I give you the opportunity. She's in third place. I'm going to give you the opportunity to back out of that debt right now. Wow.

Stu
Really?

Glenn Beck
Yeah.

Stu
Wow. Let me think about it. No, no. I will give you the opportunity to up it to 4000.

Glenn Beck
I don't want to bankrupt you in case it happens.

Stu
Thank you. By the way, the other two people, RFK junior, 2% chance, and Kamala Harris at 1%.

Glenn Beck
So amazing that big Mike has a better chance than RFK junior.

Stu
It is interesting. It is interesting.

Glenn Beck
Okay, so what you're saying, Pat, is I got a chance? Yeah, there's a chance.

Stu
Your chance. Still hanging around. Okay, so republican VP nominee, odds.

Republicans, the nominee, VB odds.

Glenn Beck
I can tell. Stu loves that stuff.

Stu
I love it.

Glenn Beck
Loves it.

Stu
I love it.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, I love it.

Stu
Tim Scott, number 118 percent. Chance number two. JD Vance, 12%. Marco Rubio, 310 percent. In third place. I think the main thing, Big Mike.

Glenn Beck
Place it all.

Stu
I can't see.

Big Mike is not. Yes, here is Big Mike. Mike Pence, less than 1%.

Glenn Beck
We were talking about.

Andrew Bailey
You're right.

Stu
Mike Pompeo, 1% as well.

Glenn Beck
We're gonna have to change the way we talk to each other.

Oh, this is making my eyes bleed, but it's worth it.

Okay, I'm sorry. We're taking you seriously, stu.

Stu
No, fine with me. I just don't know if you want me to go on, so I'm just gonna.

Glenn Beck
Yes, please do.

Stu
Okay. Okay.

Glenn Beck
What is it that you don't find hysterical about?

Stu
It's very funny.

Glenn Beck
Michelle Obama might be a transsexual. Is that what you find?

Stu
No, I mean, I literally made a how's it hangin joke in the middle of all of that, so I truly. Yeah, I just wasn't.

Glenn Beck
And we were lay, so I know.

Stu
We do have commercials coming up. So I was just wondering, do we move on? Do you want me to say more? I'm fine with whatever option. Go any direction you like.

Glenn Beck
Oh, man. Okay, well, let me tell you about our sponsor.

Stu
There you go.

Glenn Beck
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Stu
Very professional.

Glenn Beck
If you're looking for pants, go to big Mike.

Oh, man.

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Glenn Beck
Bet Obama's.

I bet Obama's chef would have liked a mantis accent.

Stu
Wow.

Glenn Beck
I needed three for the. To drown in 3ft of water. That's tough.

Stu
How would a gun help you in that situation?

How would accuracy help you?

How many. How many layers of painkillers would you say you're on right now, Glenn?

Glenn Beck
I'm none. None. I'm not none. I'm just high on life this morning.

Stu
This is natural. It's good to hear.

Glenn Beck
I thought you were gonna say, how many layers of conspiracy are we gonna get?

Oh, we're already. We're pretty deep to the bottom of the barrels into conspiracy.

Okay. Oh, man.

Do you have anything else, dude?

Stu
I.

Glenn Beck
Plenty.

Stu
I don't think you want it, but I've got it.

Glenn Beck
No, go ahead. Go ahead. I wanna hear it. Yeah.

Stu
Okay.

Glenn Beck
Uh. All right.

Stu
So Tim Scott, 18%.

Glenn Beck
JD.

Stu
JD Vance, 12%. Marco Rubio, 10%. Those are the odds to be the vice presidential nominee. I think what you learn from that is no one has any freaking idea. I think that is the fact that the leader is at 18% of a chance here as we're going into the. The debate is, what, five weeks away?

You can pretty much say that. No one has any idea.

Elise Stefanik, 6%. You can go down the list. I can give you anybody you want.

Glenn Beck
Where was Bergamot?

Stu
I think we were Douglas Bergam. Yeah, you're talking about Bergamentum, right?

Glenn Beck
Yep.

Stu
You know, for some reason is he not in that?

Glenn Beck
Cause he was the lead candidate.

Stu
He was. He's the leader. As far as. You're right. He's not listed on this. It might just be so obscure that no one's betting on him, but, I mean, there's a bunch of people that no one knows on this, so I can see if they've added him soon. Actually, this is kind of, I guess, where he falls in, they make these markets and they put all the names they can possibly think of. It's quite possible they just didn't think Doug Bergam was an option when the market was made.

Other man. And again, that could fit your friend here, Big Mike.

Other man is at 24%, leading the entire thing.

Glenn Beck
How would you like to be as other man?

Stu
Yeah, that's Bergamentum in action right there.

Glenn Beck
Now, are his eyebrows on the list?

Stu
They are. They are down at 1%.

No eyebrows, but I guess that would fall into potentially other man. I'm not sure. Woman is at 7%, by the way. So if you're thinking about field bets here, even your degenerate gambler like Glenn, you're talking about 31% of people, just be like, I don't know, somebody else.

Glenn Beck
Well, with Donald Trump, I mean, he is such a showman. You never know. He likes the drama. He. I mean, he's really doing the apprentice all the time.

Stu
Yeah, it really is. And this is going to come down to the last minute, but you got to believe he's probably.

Probably doing this first debate without even knowing for sure who is vice presidential candidate.

Glenn Beck
You hear what he said about drug tests? Yeah, yeah, I love that, too. One more. One more layer down in the elevator going, conspiracy. Floor number seven.

He said he wants Joe Biden to do a drug test because he said during the State of the union, he was high as a kite.

And you know what?

I think there's a chance of that. I really. Wow. Yeah, he was on something. He's on his regular medication. He had to be. He had to be because. Yeah, but he can't speak for an hour like that. I mean, he wasn't flawless, but he was better than normal. No, I honestly think. And, you know, look, they've done this. I mean, Jack Kennedy, they did this all the time.

I just think they have him jacked up.

Stu
Is it just you're saying something as simple as what? Like caffeine or you're going to some deactivable serum from outer space?

I could go anywhere in that range.

Glenn Beck
No, no, that's. That's ridiculous. We know what. We know what planet it's from.

No, I think it's, you know, I don't, you know, I don't know. But some sort of prescription that his doctor could give him for methamphetamines or something that juices him.

Stu
Yeah, it does seem like there's something significant going on inside the veins of our president.

Glenn Beck
He also, because I think he can only run for a few hours without being re plugged in. And you'd have to check with Disney on how long those robots can run. Right.

Stu
And, you know, if you keep recharging a battery like that over and over and over again, it starts to, does not last as nearly as long. By the end, it's like your iPhone, you know? So one other thing that I think is interesting here, Glenn, as far as how the electorate is changing and how potential political realignment, largely fueled by Donald Trump, is changing the entire way we look at these elections, if you think about the Republican Party going back, you know, as long as we can remember, there's this sort of, like, idea that they're for the fat cats, right? They're the rich people. They're the people who are, you know, they own the businesses, they're corporate fat cats. You know, that typical thing. The working class, that's Democrats, right. The working class voters. And so this has been pretty consistent over every presidential election we've had since at least, you know, going back almost 50 years, where if you think about this, Republicans and you divide them up by voters, by income, they typically get a much higher percentage of high income voters and low income voters. Right. That's kind of known about the Republican Party. It's the, it's the stereotype. So, like, go back to 1976. They got 62% of high income voters and 38% of low income voters. Okay? So plus 24, 24 point margin. This, if you go through every election from 1976 to 2012, they are right around that area, somewhere between plus 16 to plus 30. Okay, higher percentage of high income voters than low income voters.

So in 2012, they're plus 19.

2016, that's Trump's first election rank. It goes to plus seven.

So major change again, you know, 40 years of elections, they are plus 19 or more in this measure. 2016, they dropped to plus 720, 20, it drops to plus four. And so far the polls are showing in 2024, minus six. Wow. Meaning Democrats are now performing better among high income voters and Republicans are voting, are doing better among low income voters. Now, of course, Republicans have tried throughout this entire time to take this advantage away from Democrats and say, hey, we were just as good with working class voters. What are you talking about? You should be coming to our side. Of course you try to do that. It seems to be coming, though, at the expense of high income voters. And while, you know, trading one for one voter, in theory is not a big deal.

Glenn Beck
Right.

Stu
It doesn't matter. The problem is, of course, low income voters are less reliable voters. They don't vote as often, even in presidential cycles.

Glenn Beck
Speaker one. That's why, that's why we have to start saying they're going to come and enslave you again, you know, because that's always so great.

I mean, that, honestly, that's why the Democrats have done that for so long. Yeah.

Stu
And of course, we're seeing gains with Trump among hispanic voters, among black voters, among young voters, and among lower income voters. These are all areas that have been almost impenetrable for Republicans for 50 years. So a lot of really good things there. And, but you also are losing some of those high income voters that Republicans have built their foundation on. And it's going to be fascinating to see if, number one, it works, right? I mean, it worked in 2016, didn't work in 2020. Obviously, you can talk about those elections. Everyone thinks, all, both sides think one of those two elections are stolen. So I don't know what you think about that, but it is fascinating to see the change.

Glenn Beck
And then in 2020, COVID. I think 2020 was real.

Stu
COVID yeah, well, I mean, there's, 2020 was such a weird election.

Glenn Beck
Right?

Stu
I mean, because of that. But in 2024, like, you'll see if, if this approach works for Donald Trump, number one and number two, going in the future. 20 282-032-2036 is there anyone else who can replicate this Trump profile and do anything with it? Because so far it's been Donald Trump and kind of only Donald Trump that's been able to succeed with this profile. So that's kind of, it's an interesting future we have mapped out here. I have. It's gonna be interesting to see how this all plays out. I'll say that. Yes, it is.

Glenn Beck
Yes, it is. Especially with Big Mike as president. Yes.

All right. More in just a second.

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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Lenbeck program. We're glad you're here. You know, I spoke of never biting ers, but it's not really neverbidners.

It's people who voted for Biden who are like, never, ever again.

And that number is, is quite amazing. Among likely voters living in six key swing states, 51% say there's not any chance they'd vote for Biden, compared to 46% saying the same thing about President Donald Trump. And yet everybody in the media just says, oh, Joe Biden, he's the best. He's the best. Lower approval numbers than Donald Trump ever had. And also a bigger crowd of people saying, I voted for him, I'd never do it again. And that's different than a never Trumper.

Stu
Yeah, because, I mean, a never Trumper, you'd probably say, is someone who, I mean, that was usually to describe a Republican. Right. Who was just not a fan of Donald Trump and was like, I'm not going to go that way. Then this, this category seems to be, I mean, 51%, to be clear, is, first of all, all the Republicans that just have no interest in voting for Joe Biden, but then also a bunch of people who did vote for Joe Biden and will no longer consider him. So, I mean, never Biden is sort of a weird description of someone who did vote for Joe Biden should be never again Biden. Never again Biden. Right. And I think those people are definitely increasing.

Glenn Beck
Yeah.

Stu
You just, I.

Glenn Beck
Good reason.

Stu
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
Really, really good reason.

Stu
He's been very, he's been a bad president. I don't know if you guys have noticed this. I've been, I've been watching him try to do his job. He's not very good at it at all.

Yeah. Like, I keep coming back to this. I've been talking to people lately. I keep coming back to this. I'm like, have you guys noticed that? Like, he's not very, he does the chosen profession he's gone into. He's not good at it. I don't think he knows how to do the job. Very well.

Glenn Beck
That's really weird.

Stu
People don't know what I'm talking about.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, but what about the economy?

Stu
Yeah, I know. That's one of the things I bring up. It sucks.

Glenn Beck
Really? Yeah. Oh, wow. So a New New York Times Sienna college survey released today, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, found that 14% of those who say they backed Biden in 2020 won't do it again.

Stu
Wow.

Glenn Beck
That's pretty significant.

Stu
That's huge. I mean, obviously, if that holds, there's no way he can win the election.

Glenn Beck
Oh, yeah, there it is.

Stu
Well, yes.

Glenn Beck
Well, you get enough dead voters voting.

Stu
That's always a possibility.

But I mean, as far as legitimate victory, it is. It's impossible. Possible.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, it is. It's also impossible. Bread have to be to feel legitimate.

Stu
There's. I don't think there is anything. I don't think.

Glenn Beck
I don't think there's no anybody.

Stu
There's always going to be complaints about stolen elections till the end of time. I think that's where we are. I don't think. I don't think any of that changes. I mean, we've seen it. Every election in my adult life that has been won by a Republican has been, there have been accusations by Democrats that it's been stolen every time. It's happened every single time. And, you know, Republicans are obviously quite on this bandwagon right now as well. And there's just nobody that seems to believe that we have a legitimate situation.

Glenn Beck
I say the. Twice that it's happened since 2000. Every time. Well, it's been three times. Right. Since 2000 that Republicans have won. And in every case, they've said the election was stolen.

Stu
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
In 2000, it was selected, not elected. It was not good enough. Yeah, it's, we're just not good. We don't, we don't do the things that are legal to help us vote.

Nathan Nipper
It's true.

Glenn Beck
Let alone the things that are illegal.

You know, the, the, the real problem here is, I think these situations that we're seeing, like in, for instance, in Washington, DC, where they are actively training people who are illegals to vote, why?

Stu
It's not supposed to happen. That's not, I've been telling people this. I keep saying, hey, you guys, you're illegal immigrants. You're not supposed to be voting. And people say what they don't understand.

It is their tactics are as extreme as possible.

This comes back to what you were just talking about, Glenn. I mean, obviously, the focus on Biden, 51% of people in these swing states saying, well, I will never vote for Biden. I mean, what's lost there is the 46% are saying they never vote for Trump. I mean, this is so. We are so. The polarized thing has been so talked about, but it's. It's completely true. I mean, you look back at these elections, we used to talk about blowout elections like Ronald Reagan, 1984. Right?

Glenn Beck
Never happened.

Stu
He wins by. He wins 59 to 41, an 18 point margin in the popular vote in 1984. Wow, those days are gone. Think about the McCain Obama election, which we all consider kind of a blowout, right?

That was a 53 46.

Glenn Beck
Seven point.

Stu
A seven point margin was an absolute blowout. We haven't seen, you know, you go back, 2012 was four points. 2016 was two points. Again, the Democrats won, of course, in 2016 on the popular vote, and in 2020, it was four points. That's what you're looking at, right? You're looking at two and four point elections right now. And we can all talk. It feels different than that, right? Like, it feels. I feel like you look at the way Biden's performance has been, and if you just judge it solely on that. On that factor, I don't think there's any hope that a president could possibly run under the conditions Joe Biden is running on and win outside of something. That's crazy.

Glenn Beck
So there's two things. And help me out, stu, you remember this. I think Donald Trump was the first candidate to win all of the bellwether elections and lose the election. Right?

Stu
I remember that being talked about. I don't know that stat off the top of my head, though, I'd have.

Glenn Beck
To plead, but I think it was something like that. I can't remember for sure this time.

If Biden wins, he'll be the first guy to have the polling numbers that he has and the country headed in the wrong direction numbers that he has. I mean, that it will be a remarkable overthrow of everything that we know if he wins.

Stu
Yeah, I just don't. I think if. If it were held today, I don't think he'd have much of a chance at all of winning this. This election. Now, of course, with six months to go, who knows what?

Andrew Bailey
We're.

Stu
We talking about the invasion of aliens by then? And, uh, that might be the big story.

Glenn Beck
We're all on speaker one, tell me about this. Where was that story today?

The, uh. Yeah, Biden 2.0 promises tax hikes and more illegal, um, immigration. So he's talking about higher taxes. He just signed in.

Here's a story. Like 2 trillion. No, an additional $1 trillion in regulations and you'll feel them. $1.2 trillion of new regulations that he is just putting in in the next couple of months, and you'll feel them by the election. That's nuts. And if he, if he wins, and the Trump tax cuts sunset, which will happen next year, if Biden wins, that's a tax increase for every american that is attacked. Everybody, small business. Everybody, small businesses, your taxes will go up 20%.

We have. Now, what was the number Friday we talked about, stew? It was like 47% or something like that of small businesses cannot fully make their rental payment.

Stu
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
How are you going to pay an additional 20%? That will destroy the small business.

Stu
It's true. And, of course, this is why he's doing so badly. You know, his. His approval rating right now is 38.1%.

Glenn Beck
The lowest in 60 years. Right.

Stu
I mean, I'll give you where. Where we are. Donald Trump, again, who wound up losing in 2020 at this point in his presidency, was at 42.5%.

Glenn Beck
Wow.

Stu
Biden at 38.7%.

Glenn Beck
Remember how bad they said that was? They were like, that's the worst ever.

You can. President. Everybody hates his guts. Yeah.

Stu
Barack Obama, who obviously did win in 2012, he was at 49% approval at this point in this process.

Glenn Beck
He had muscle behind him, a big mic. Yeah, exactly.

Stu
That's true. George W. Bush, uh, who also won, was at 46% approval rating. And Joe Biden again at 38. Bill Clinton, who won, was at 53%.

Glenn Beck
Right.

Stu
That's a winning profile.

38.1% for Bill Clinton. George Hw Bush, who lost. Right. But he was at 40% higher than Joe Biden is right now at 38.6.

Glenn Beck
Ronald Reagan, obviously going into it, you just knew he was going to lose. Right?

Stu
It didn't even seem close. No, I mean, I didn't even seem close.

Ronald Reagan, 54%, obviously much higher than Joe Biden. Jimmy Carter, who obviously lost, was at 40.7% higher than Joe Biden.

Richard Nixon, who won, was at 55%. Of course, that was another blowout election where Nixon won. LBJ decided not to run. Right? Famously, 38.1% for Biden, 45.1 for Lyndon Johnson.

Glenn Beck
Wow. Oh, man.

Stu
Not even close.

Glenn Beck
And he pulled out because he knew he wasn't going to win.

Stu
And, I mean, the only one that's actually close, oddly, is Harry Truman.

Harry Truman was at 38, really at the low of his presidency, 38.9%. And Biden still at 38.6.

Glenn Beck
Why did Harry Truman. Why do people hate Harry Truman so much? I thought he was a good president.

Stu
I don't know. I mean, yeah, it was a really tough time.

Glenn Beck
He made the toughest decision, and maybe you can't imagine it was this. He ended, you know, he was responsible for VJ Day because he dropped the bomb. And I don't think it was all that controversial at the time. It ended the war, and he saved millions of lives on both sides. Saved millions of lives. He's also the guy who established the state of Israel against the State Department's wishes. I mean, I don't know what he did that was so horrible, other than, I think. When was the reelection? 1950. Do you remember?

Stu
Let's see. It was 40. Yeah, 45 to 53 he was president.

Glenn Beck
Okay, so in 53, the Republicans, and I think they should use this again, the Republicans winning slogan was, have you had enough yet?

And it was running on the depression, the war, and the continuation of the malaise.

Stu
I think, too, you hit on something earlier with Trump, Glenn, in 2020, where I think part of the election in 2020 just goes to the point that the country was really miserable at that point.

It was a very unique circumstance. COVID, obviously standing out most. But don't forget the George Floyd thing was there, too. There was a lot going on, spikes in crime, people's businesses falling apart.

It's hard for anyone who's president of the United States in that circumstance to win. What's been fascinating about Biden is he's basically taken that malaise and just continued it.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. And, and now the left is coming after him about Israel, and he is absolutely catering to him. The stuff that he said this weekend. Absolutely unbelievable.

And, you know, they, you know that they have more plans to take to the streets. This. And I think people are done with that. I think they're done with their cars being surrounded in traffic. I think they're done with all of these marxist leftist radicals. You know, it's no longer the me too movement, which was bad enough, but at least that had some, you know, some benefit to it. It was like, okay, yeah, let's get these dirt bags out. But it went too far, I think. But still, it had some good. This, this after the George Floyd riots and the looting and everything else, and now into the palestinian thing where the american people disagree with the protesters. I don't think it's going to go well.

Maybe it's just me.

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Just like you have to put your family first so you can be able to help others after your family is secure. I'd be a, help me out on that. Be a really great way to put it.

Well, it's the only way to put it. If we want to help other nations, we have to be strong. Yeah. And we are bleeding ourselves dry. And it is, it's obscene. It's, it's just no, it's not.

It's infantile to think anything other than put your country or your family first. It doesn't mean you cut in line. It doesn't mean you cheat others or hate others. It means take care of your family first so you can help others after.

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Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're glad you're here. I don't know what it is about Missouri, but they have had two unbelievable attorney generals back to back.

One of them just went to Washington to become a great senator. And the other one is, is investigating a couple of things. One about Donald Trump and this conspiracy to prosecute, and also the attacks on the Kansas City kicker that we were talking about last week. We have the attorney general from Missouri, Andrew Bailey, on with us in 60 seconds. First, your freedoms are under attack. For instance, right now, if you were to walk around your house in your underwear, those blinds you have on the windows, they probably get arrested because some nosy neighbor calling the cops. You know what I mean? They've seen better days, but the solution is simple and it's not expensive. Just upgrade your window coverings with something new and better from blinds.com. They're home free. They're. They're home free.

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We have the Missouri attorney general.

He is demanding a couple of things.

First of all, that the Department of Justice turn over the documents related to several of President Trump's prosecutions as the prosecutions appear to be part of a coordinated effort by the DOJ that involved the White House.

Andrew Bailey, the, the attorney general is with us now.

Andrew, how are you, sir?

Andrew Bailey
Doing well. Thank you. Thanks for having me on.

Glenn Beck
You bet. Thank you. You are one of the really good AG's in the country. And I have to tell you, it is the first of the last of the line are the AG's. And if you guys go dark, it's up to the sheriffs. And I'd like to not get to the sheriff part.

Thank you for everything you're doing.

Tell me, tell me about what you're looking for from the Department of Justice, why you're looking for it, and what the response has been so far.

Andrew Bailey
Well, and Glenn, I appreciate you covering this story extensively. Everyone can see the illicit witch hunt prosecutions that are going on from Alvin Bragg's office, from Bonnie Williams office, from Leticia James's office, and from the Biden's crooked Department of justice.

Glenn Beck
And we know already, do we not know for a fact that there are ties directly to the White House that they're coordinating?

Andrew Bailey
Yeah, they are absolutely coordinating. The Biden Department of Justice has become the nerve center for a coordinated witch hunt prosecution of a political opponent. And it's not designed to obtain a legally valid conviction. It's designed to take anyone running against Joe Biden, in other words, President Donald Trump, off the campaign trail. How do we know this? Because they've deployed resources in the fight. At the state level, that's illicit collusion. And I'm talking about Matthew Colangelo. This was the number three ranking official at Biden's crooked Department of Justice, a longtime DNC activist with deep ties to the Democratic Party who has now taken a job with Alvin Bragg's office and is leading the prosecution in the courtroom in Manhattan at the state level against President Donald Trump. That is sufficient evidence to disqualify these prosecutors. And we demand records. We need to have transparency. I think they have enormous liability on their professional licensure, civil liability, and potential potentially criminal liability. I mean, at some point, we need to talk about prosecuting the prosecutors.

Glenn Beck
Thank you.

So may I just call you Andrew? I'm sorry.

Okay. So, so, Andrew, how, how unusual is it for that kind of a transfer of job? I mean, does that happen?

Is this just our speculation?

Andrew Bailey
Well, in isolation, it wouldn't be a problem in and of itself. The problem comes from the illicit motivations that can be imputed to these prosecutors. So let's talk about Alvin Bragg for a second, which, by the way, I love that his website and his motto for his office is one standard of justice for all. I mean, how does this guy keep a straight face while saying that? But this is an individual who worked for Leticia James, who campaigned on a promise to prosecute Donald Trump, who has been involved in civil litigation against Donald Trump when he worked at the New York attorney general's office. There is no way a court in Missouri would allow him to prosecute that criminal case, even if, even if there was a criminal case, which I don't concede that there is, it's not supported by the facts or the law. And we've covered, you've covered that extensively. We've talked about that ad nauseam. But the illicit motivation of the prosecutors is self evident by the previous behavior and statements that Alvin Bragg has made. Same with Matthew Colangelo. I mean, the DOJ cases against President Donald Trump are also equally specious in nature, in other words, not supported by the facts of the law. So Joe Biden keeps documents in his garage where anybody can get to him, and, oh, he's too old to know what he's doing, so let's let him off the hook, despite the fact that somehow he's the chief executive of the United States of America. But we're going to go after President Donald Trump, who had the authority to declassify the very documents he was in possession of.

They were in a safe. So again, you've got Matthew Colangelo leading all of that and now going to help Alvin Bragg. That is an appearance of impropriety at a minimum. And I believe there's actual impropriety, substantive impropriety. The political motivation of the prosecutors is sufficient to call into question their judgment in these cases. Couple that with the fact that they brought baseless charges not supported by the facts of the law, and it will undermine the credibility of whatever illegal conviction they ultimately obtain.

Glenn Beck
So tell me what cases you're looking at. You're looking at Alvin Bragg and you're looking at, shoot, what was the other one?

Andrew Bailey
Patricia James, Bonnie William. Yes, all of them.

All of them. Yeah. There's a documented history of this, too. This isn't just some conspiracy theory. I mean, your listeners will recall in 2016 how the DOJ deep state conspired to perpetrate the russian collusion hoax against President Trump to undermine his presidency before he took office. And think about those text messages between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok. You're telling me that isn't going on between Leticia James, Alvin Bragg, Matthew Colangelo, Fonnie will, I mean, the whole crew. And so we know that evidence is out there and it needs to be transparent from the public.

Glenn Beck
So is there a statute of limitations on any of these?

Andrew Bailey
You know, it depends on what facts are uncovered. But I don't think that we're, I don't think we're in any risk of losing the ability to hold the wrongdoers accountable. And again, that can take many different forms. First and foremost, we need to expose this so the public understands what's going on here. It was never about an actual criminal case against President Trump. It was always about getting him off the campaign trail. Now, once that is established, which, again, circumstantial evidence gives rise to the reasonable inference today, but when we're in possession of the documents that we believe will reveal an actual substantive impropriety, then we start talking about censure against professional licensure. We start talking about President Trump having a civil suit for violation of his civil rights. And if crimes were committed, then absolutely criminal prosecution should be on the table. For far too long, conservatives have allowed this lawfare to go on, and it has gotten worse and worse and worse to where now Missourians are being denied access to their chosen political candidate, their chosen presidential candidate, President Donald Trump.

Glenn Beck
So, you know, lawfare is the wave of the future. I mean, if President Trump wins, they're going to make what happened on January 6, I think, look like, you know, a walk in the park, and they're lawyering up like crazy. Lawfare is. Is the future. How do we turn that around?

Andrew Bailey
Well, it's tough because as conservatives, we believe in the rule of law. We believe that the text history, tradition of the Constitution still means something, and that we elevate the rules of the game above the players and the outcomes. And so the only way to serve those rule of law principles, but also fight back against lawfare, is to hold those perpetrating lawfare accountable. And that's what I seek to do in this instance.

Glenn Beck
Now, how likely are we to get these, you know, documents?

Andrew Bailey
Well, I'm not going to be stonewalled by Biden's crooked Department of justice. They may play those games in the courts in the state of New York, which, by the way, you know, shame on the judiciary in the state of New York for not disqualifying these prosecutors and from, you know, allowing these appearances of impropriety to perpetrate even from the bench in this illicit witch hunt prosecution. But at the end of the day, this would never stand in Missouri. We're not going to be stonewalled by the Department of justice. They have a responsibility for transparency, especially given the heightened sensitivity around a presidential election. And so these are serious allegations. They need to live up to their obligations under the Freedom of Information act. And we're going to shine the light of truth on this as soon as practical.

Glenn Beck
And when we had the document case, when they turned over the documents, we found collusion, did we not?

Andrew Bailey
That's absolutely true. Again, this is a documented pattern of behavior that extends far beyond the current presidential election cycle. It goes all the way back to 2016.

Glenn Beck
Unbelievable.

Let me switch subjects. The Kansas City chiefs, which, full disclosure, my family and I, we root for the Kansas City chiefs all the time. And, you know, we love the hunt family and everything else.

What happened there is such an attack on, honestly, freedom of expression for your religion. He's speaking. I mean, the left always says, keep it in the. You can keep it in your house of worship. Well, that was a religious university.

And he got a standing ovation. Nobody seemed to really be offended by it. And they have gone after him and doxxed him.

What are you doing?

Andrew Bailey
Well, look, we're not going to let city officials in Kansas City who doxed Harrison Bucker in retaliation for his free expression, of his faith, of his religious beliefs. We're not going to let them violate the Missouri Human Rights act that exists in order to prohibit that kind of discriminatory behavior. And you're right. I mean, if anybody has watched the commencement address itself, I would commit it for everybody to view. It's a fabulous speech. You know what he says at the beginning? You know what Harrison Becker says? He says the left wants to drive free expression of christian beliefs from public discourse. And that's exactly what's happening. That's what the left is doing to Harrison Butger. Now, the problem from a state law perspective is when the city of Kansas City, using an official Twitter account, publishes Harrison Bucker's residence. Why did they do that? In retaliation. The government can't retaliate against someone for the free expression of their faith. And that's what's going on here. And suddenly I'm the bad guy. Quinton Lucas, the mayor of Kansas City, within the last 72 hours, has fired off an incendiary letter to me accusing me of feigning the flames of racial discord. Like what? Wow, you know, you're doing the right thing when the left baselessly plays the race card. So somehow my enforcement of the statute intended to prevent discrimination is discriminatory to the mayor of Kansas city makes zero sense. That's when you know you're doing the right thing.

We're going to fight for all Christians or people, any faith communities ability to have free expression of their religious belief protected by the Constitution and the laws of the state of Missouri.

Glenn Beck
And what are you going for on that, Andrew?

Andrew Bailey
We demanded accountability and transparency there, too. We've demanded documents about who manages the social media account, who has access to it, why this post was tweeted out when it was.

We need to make sure that there's guardrails in place to ensure that the, again, the government resources aren't being weaponized to push a radical, progressive discriminatory agenda in violation of state law. And if we have to, we'll go to court and get an injunction to put a stop to it.

Glenn Beck
Andrew Bailey, the attorney general in Missouri. Always good to talk to you, Andrew. Thank you so much.

Andrew Bailey
Thank you, sir. Appreciate you having me on.

Glenn Beck
You bet. If you didn't hear Bill Maher's comments on the Kansas City Chiefs kickers comments, listen to what he said. Here's cut two.

Speaker C
I couldn't be more, not like this guy. He's in big trouble because he said at this event and this is a catholic college, conservative Catholics, and they think he's now history's greatest monster. Again, I don't agree with much with this guy, but I don't get the thing he said. Some of you talking to this, the women here, some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world.

Okay, that seems fairly, like, modern, but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world. I don't see what the big crime is. I really don't. And I think this is part of the problem people have with the left, is that lots of people in this country are like this. Like he's saying, some of you may go on to lead successful careers, but a lot of you are excited about this other way that people, everybody used to be, and now can it. Can't that just be a choice to to and I feel like they feel very put upon, like there's only one way to be a good person, and that's to get an advanced degree from one of those factories like Harvard.

I find it very ironic that he's saying, you know what, in my world, you know, we like the women to stay at home and just have babies. And the college kids and the young people find this absolutely abhorrent. But they're demonstrating for Hamas, right? Who make that a law.

It's not just an opinion in Hamas that you stay home and have the babies. We will enforce you for doing that. Okay. I just wanted to make that point.

Glenn Beck
I have to tell you, I think Bill Maher has become and I don't agree with him on a lot of stuff. He is becoming my favorite liberal because he's an actual classic liberal. Once again, he's somebody who is just saying, freedom of speech, man. Say what you want. Don't force everybody else. Thank you, Bill Maher. All right. Back in just a second. 1st let me tell you about rough greens. Your dog is a member of your family. You know that. But he's also there to protect you if somebody breaks into your house. So hypothetical situation here. Let's say you feed your dog kibble food and the burglar brings hamburger along and gives it to him. I mean, you know, the burglar is like, hey, I'm going to steal all your stuff because I just gave a burger while your faithful dog is attacking you because he's like, there's been this flavor available.

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There's a, there's a couple of things that I'd like you to, I'd like you to hear.

First of all, let's go to cut four. Here's Joe Biden over the weekend talking to black graduates in Georgia.

Speaker C
What is democracy?

If black men are being killed in the street, what is democracy?

Betrayal of broken promises still leave black communities behind.

What is democracy?

You have to be ten times better than anyone else to get a fair shot.

Most of all, what does it mean, as you've heard before, to be a black man who loves his country, even if it doesn't love him back in equal measure?

Glenn Beck
You listen to that applause.

Listen to that applause.

It is. He is.

Oh, my gosh. This is so damaging and so bad and such a lie. Here's cut five, folks.

Speaker C
I never imagined that in 2024 there'd be folks waiting to ban books in America. What in God's name is that about?

Not only that, they're trying to erase black history.

Glenn Beck
Oh, my gosh.

Speaker C
They're wrong. They don't understand. Black history is american history.

Glenn Beck
You're damn right, Joe Biden. And so why did they ban blacks in the 1920s? Why did they take books that we have in our library about the black american patriots book after book after book, and the progressives banned them and destroyed them? Why is it Woodrow Wilson wrote a five book history of America with literally no mentions of any black heroes? And when he does mention blacks, he puts a picture of a monkey in a hat.

Tell me why. Tell me who did it, mister progressive.

Oh, my gosh.

By the way, during the NAACP Freedom Fund dinner in Detroit where he said that he actually claimed that he has been a lifetime member. He joined at 15, the NAACP.

So in the 1960s. He joined the NAACP.

Really? Because I think you have to be 18 or 20, don't you, Stu, to.

Stu
Join back then Pat said off air 21. I don't, I don't, I don't know their qualifications, though. That's.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, yeah, so I, yeah, I can see young Joe Biden there with corn pop going, you know what?

That meeting sounds good. I'm going to go join, too. What a piece of garbage this guy is.

Oh, by the way, try cut six real quick. Here he is again.

Speaker C
I was vice president, things were kind of bad during the pandemic.

And what happened was Barack said to me, go to Detroit and help fix it.

Well, poor mayor, he spent more time with me than he ever thought he was going to have to.

Glenn Beck
You weren't vice President under Donald Trump during the pandemic, you old coot.

Speaker C
Glenn Beck, very sorry.

Glenn Beck
Christ wouldn't have done that.

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Hello, America.

There is somebody that I really respect that is doing something that absolutely has to happen. You want to fix the country, we must abolish the Federal Reserve right now. And Representative Thomas Massey is on the phone with me now. Hi, Thomas, how are you?

Thomas Massie
Hey, Glenn. Thanks for covering this topic.

It really needs to happen. We're done nibbling around the edges.

I've introduced a bill to audit the Fed for a decade, but we're past that. We've got to end it.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. So explain to people what the Fed is and what it has been doing lately. It's our central bank and it has nothing to do with the federal government. It is a private corporation, correct?

Thomas Massie
Yeah. Let me just explain what's happened under Jerome Powell. And I hate to pick on him, but he's the Fed chairman right now. And under him, we've seen 25% of the value of the dollar disappear. Meanwhile, during COVID the investment bankers and the Wall street bankers had their best year ever in 2020, and we had 7% inflation during COVID Thanks to the Fed.

They are.

And then let me just tell you about Jerome Powell's background, because it's indicative of the kind of people that work there. He started out as an attorney and he got into investment banking, and then he went to treasury, and then he left treasury and went back into banking and then investment banking. And then it was Barack Obama who put him on the federal board of governors, and then it was Trump who elevated him to chairman, and then it was Biden who renominated him. This guy is the uniparty person who makes the investment bankers rich and everybody else poor in this country.

Glenn Beck
But it's also, people need to understand, the president can't just nominate anybody or appoint anybody the Federal Reserve. So all of the, what is it, seven or eight banks, the biggest banks, we are not even allowed to know who they are, which is incredibly un american and leads to all kinds of corruption.

They get together and they say to the president, here are a few names that we'll accept.

You pick from one of them.

Thomas Massie
Right, and then when, right, and then when that guy takes the job, who do you think he goes out to have dinner with every night? I mean, there's this argument that we want our monetary policy to be independent of Congress or the executive branch, but it's a falsehood that it's independent. Right now, it's not independent at all. I mean, Jerome Powell lobbies Congress and the White House to engage in more fiscal stimulus.

Stu
So.

Thomas Massie
And then they're working. I mean, when the treasury gets their debt monetized by the Fed, do you think that's an independent thing? No, that's a carefully orchestrated dance, and that's what they've done here recently. There's, there's three ways you can get money for the government to spend. You can either tax the people and take the money back, or you can borrow the money, or you can just create it out of thin air. And what they did during COVID is they created trillions of dollars out of thin air. And this is, you know, Congress is to blame as well. Congress spent those trillions of dollars, but it's it's the Fed that enables it, and it's the Fed that pulls it.

Glenn Beck
Off, and it's also the Fed. This is, this is what kills me. You know, they said that, you know, in 2008, these banks were too big to fail, and we have to stop that. And everything Congress did made these banks stronger and bigger and hurt the small banks that are not part of the Federal reserve system, so to speak. They're not on, you know, they're not one of the owners of the Fed. And it seems to me, Thomas, that every time something is done, the american people are the ones that lose, and the banks get the money, they get richer, and in the end, it's going to be those. However, what is it, five or six or eight banks that are make up the Fed? Do you know?

Thomas Massie
I don't know the number.

Glenn Beck
We don't even know the number. Okay? So whatever the number is, those guys are going to be the ones that are currently holding our debt. Now, as I understand it, whoever holds debt, you have to pay that debt. And I have had bankers tell me, Glenn, we don't have to worry about the debt. You know, what our. Do you know, just what our national parks are worth?

And so we will pay whatever it is they want. We'll have to give that to the banks, which will mean it's a transfer of wealth from the people to these big banks. It's just obscene.

Thomas Massie
And they have no intention of selling the national parks, by the way. They are just going to take it out of our hides. That's what they're going to do. And listen to your first point there.

The fed acts like they're the firefighters, but they are the arsonists.

Glenn Beck
Yes, they are.

Thomas Massie
They kept rates low. They had easy money for banks to get for so long that the banks, you know, they've just assumed it was always going to be that way. You had a few that failed. They came in and they. Well, they failed because the Fed then came in with whiplash and raised rates quicker than they've ever raised them before. And then the banks were kind of in this one model. So then the Fed comes and does triage on them. So the Fed starts out as the arsonist, then they come in and they do the firefighting by raising interest rates. And then they go in and bail out the couple of banks last year.

So they're causing the problems that they come in and allegedly solve. But I think we're almost to a point now where they're running out of levers or the rubber bands that attach their levers. To our macro economy are stretched as far as they'll stretch because right now they're not really in control of interest rates. They might like to think they can lower the interest rate to stimulate the economy again, but the problem is when they recently, when they put treasuries out for auction, the sovereign funds, the other countries that oftentimes buy our debt said, you know what, at four and a half percent, I don't think that's a good bargain. I'm not going to buy those. I need a higher interest rate.

Glenn Beck
Would you honestly, if you had, you're in charge of a bank, or you were making loans as a private individual, and you had somebody who came in and ran their life the way our Congress runs our country, what kind of interest rate would you demand from them that you would think it's worth taking the risk for that?

Yeah, I mean, it would be easy. Easy in the double digits and most likely in the mid double digits for me.

Thomas Massie
Yeah. And the other thing is then we try to inflate our debt down. In other words, we devalue our currency. So it changes the impact of, let's say the nominal price of our debt in gold, if you could find some outside reference. So the fed kind of, the treasury kind of likes inflation. It kills the little guy. It's, the big guys don't care because like we saw during COVID they just reprice everything on Wall street. And then the other assets the federal prop up by buying them, so they make sure that the rich people can survive through inflation, the poor people can't, or even the middle class can't. And because you don't have these sort of financial instruments that everybody else has that the Fed takes care of. And so it's, the Fed is when they cause inflation, they solve a little bit of the debt problem. But the problem is we're getting to a point where it's not going to work anymore.

For a while we had inflation that was greater than the interest rate we were paying on the debt. So you can see, actually, if people will take your debt at those low interest rates and inflation is that high, you should probably take on more debt. I mean, I hate to say it, but they're wising up in the rest of the world now. Here's something else that happens. The US dollar is the reserve currency. I mean, we've mucked with it, but not so much that people don't want it yet.

Glenn Beck
Yet.

Thomas Massie
And when you want to, everybody likes to do their transactions in dollars, but to do a transaction in dollars, you have to hold dollars. So the whole world is holding dollars. And so when we devalue the dollar, we're not just taxing our own people, we're taxing the entire world. We're kind of like the credit card gets 3% of all the transaction at the gas station. We get that 3% if we create 3% more money every year, which we typically do. But the rest of the world is getting tired of being used that way. They're tired of our transaction fees, that is our inflation. And when they start using alternate forms of money to do their transactions or holding different assets in their own sovereign wealth funds, then we're not going to be able to do that trick on anybody except for us citizens.

This is all coming to a head.

Glenn Beck
Thomas, I said this a while back, probably 15 years ago. When this actually happens, we are going to be labeled because no politician in any other country is going to take responsibility for their own fiscal madness. Everybody's going to blame it on the United States because we were greedy, grotesque, and took on so much debt that we devalued the dollar, and it's going to affect the entire world. And I related, and I know it's for different reasons in some way, but I look at the way Germany looked at France at the end of World War one and the beginning of World War two is, I think, the way the rest of the world's going to look at us. We, we forced, we didn't. France forced Germany into just devastation where they had to inflate their dollar. They, I mean, it was horrible. We, the damage that we are going to do by destroying our dollar, I don't think we're going to be very popular in the world.

Thomas Massie
No. And then somebody says, okay, if you get, they've been asking me, what if you get rid of the Fed? What do you replace it with? That's like saying, if you take out a tumor, what do you replace the tumor with?

Andrew Bailey
You would like.

Thomas Massie
And then the serious answer is we go back to stable currency that the government can't manipulate.

Andrew Bailey
You would.

Thomas Massie
I would prefer to have a gold standard, for instance.

Glenn Beck
Me, too.

Thomas Massie
It's hard.

Glenn Beck
So I have been told this, what this is what a serious, serious banker at the fed level has said to me. Glenn, the reason why we had to get rid of the gold standard is at first it was because we wanted the great society and the Vietnam war couldn't afford it, but there's not enough gold to build and live at the level the world lives right now.

We had to play funny money and everybody is in on it. We can't go to a gold standard because there's just not enough gold. You buy that?

Thomas Massie
Well, there's enough gold to do honest transactions. But you're right, there's not enough gold to do the funny money and to fund all of these wars, for instance, that we've engaged in this. You know, typically when the government tries to leave some kind of standard that they've been on, it's because they have to finance a war and nobody wants to consume enough of the debt to finance the war, so they go off the standard. But, yeah, you can't monetize your own debt. Once you get into that model, you can't create the funny money. It's real money, it's hard money. And that's what we should go back to. And we shouldn't replace the Fed with anything. It's keynesian economics, the whole premise. I know a lot of Republicans may disagree with me. They may think that we need a Federal Reserve bank and that we need to control inflation, but that's the whole notion of keynesian economics, that you could create prosperity by tweaking the interest rates and the money supply and that the free market doesn't have enough signals and feedback, doesn't react quickly enough, that you could have some experts in an ivory tower that need to be turning knobs to make our lives better. But the reality is, the people in the ivory tower, they're investment bankers. They came from investment banking. They're going back to investment banking. They still got ties to it, and they're tweaking the knobs to help their buddies and to keep this music going until the music stops, which is the infinite spending.

Glenn Beck
You have introduced HR 24 as well, which is the Federal Reserve Transparency act to audit the Federal Reserve and the act to abolish it. You've got a lot of co sponsors. Any chance this even gets past our own House speaker?

One?

Thomas Massie
Well, probably not this speaker.

Look, we got. Not under this speaker, but under previous speakers. We have passed audit the Fed in the House. They've never brought it up in the Senate or not passed it in the Senate. You get people like Bernie Sanders, who sponsored audit the Fed when he was in the House, and then he gets to the Senate and he won't even sponsor it.

But we've got to end it. So we've got enough co sponsors and enough votes to pass audit the Fed. It hasn't happened this Congress. It should happen, this Congress. But by the way, if it were really part of the government, you could do a foia on it, right. Try the Federal Reserve. He's going to work for you.

Glenn Beck
Quickly. How can people help?

Thomas Massie
Okay, the HR number is 8421 for ending the Federal reserve. We have 22 co sponsors right now. We need more co sponsors. Ask your congressman to co sponsor in the Fed HR 8421.

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All right, let's get an update here on what just happened in the, in the Cohen and Donald Trump trial. There's, Cohen is still on the stand.

Oh, my gosh. It's got to be the longest days of his life. He is being cross examined. Remember, he's the key witness in this Donald Trump trial with stormy Daniels.

Stu
Speaker one he's really, without Cohen, there isn't even a case to be brought. You have to believe Cohen because much of the evidence that you would need to make Donald Trump into the bad guy here is specifically based on things that Cohen has said or done and has sole knowledge of. He's the only person saying it. So you have to trust Cohen.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. It, it all went through him. He's the guy who, if he's, if it, if, if he dropped dead, hit by a bus, the whole thing would be gone.

Stu
And, you know, just to remind listeners, the, you know, the Michael Cohen situation is not a good one. It was never a good one. Even when Trump was there. I believe he won our least reliable human being on earth competition for five straight years.

Glenn Beck
He did.

Stu
He is not reliable and was not reliable back then, is not reliable now. The media has just decided to try to rehabilitate him because they need him for this case. So Todd Blanche, the attorney for Trump, is questioning and going after Michael Cohen to try to make him look as credible as he actually is, which is not at all. And he went to him and talked to him about a specific transaction with a company called Redfinch. Red Finch was an it kind of company that Michael Cohen was dealing with. And what they were doing with this company at the time is somewhat embarrassing. I suppose they were trying to get, they were trying to rig online polls in Trump's favor. So if you remember about the time these polls would come out, who do you think is, who should win the republican nomination? This is the, you know, 2016 election. And Trump would win overwhelmingly. Even when he wasn't winning in the normal polls, he would win overwhelmingly on every online poll.

Glenn Beck
Right.

Stu
Good part.

Glenn Beck
This is why we've always said online polls are ridiculous.

Andrew Bailey
Speaker three.

Stu
They're useless.

Glenn Beck
Everybody rigs it. Everybody. Yeah.

To some degree, people will be like, I'm going to vote and, hey, vote on this. Vote on this. Vote a million times, whatever it is.

Stu
Right. And this is a paternal, apparently a professional effort to do that. And they were going to pay. They were owed $50,000 for their efforts. And this in this front, um, now, Cohen apparently, and this is all happened on the. On the stand. Cohen was supposed to pay $50,000 to this company, but ended up only paying them $20,000.

He still, however, asked for a $50,000 reimbursement from the Trump Organization.

Blanche, the attorney asked Cohen, hey, did you lie about this? Cohen on the stand says, yes, admits that, yes, he did lie about this.

Nathan Nipper
Speaker one.

Glenn Beck
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So he just admitted. I just want to make sure everybody understands. He just admitted to cheating a company out of 30 grand, asking his own company or his own firm, Donald Trump's firm, to pay the 50,000 to him, which he was supposed to pay. He only pays 20.

And what does he do with the other 30?

Stu
I mean, he pockets it. They. It's interesting, the reporting on it. It's a little hard to tell whether he actually said this or whether he just sort of agreed to it, but he was the. Blanche, the attorney brought up the possibility of him having the money in either a duffel bag or a brown paper bag.

Glenn Beck
Now, that's where I like to keep my money. It's safe that way.

Stu
It's all. It's the Fonny Willis banking system.

Glenn Beck
Yeah.

Stu
That'S the way that works. So he goes to this, and he says, okay, you had this duffel bag of cash. Where was the cash? He goes after him on this.

He then tries to really focus this, because what you said is true. Of course. If you are an employee of a company or you're working with a company and you charge someone $50,000 and then pocket $30,000, that's what we would all recognize as theft. Right?

Glenn Beck
Like embezzlement or theft.

Stu
Yeah. You're just stealing money from the company that gave you the $50,000.

Glenn Beck
I. Wait a minute. I just want to make sure Stu, Sarah, you both understand that concept, right? That's theft.

Stu
I'm not sure what he's saying. Sarah, can you.

Glenn Beck
Okay, go ahead, speaker one.

Stu
So the Trump attorney says and tries to get this down and, like, get everyone to understand this, because in case people don't understand, this is stealing. He says, quote, you stole from the Trump organization, right?

He, by the way, was, Cohen was reimbursed for about $100,000 in these expenses because he was always getting double the expenses for taxes. So about $100,000 in all.

Glenn Beck
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Like, what do you mean? He was getting double for taxes.

Stu
So he was getting, like, if he took $50,000 to do one of these shady dealings like he did with stormy.

Glenn Beck
All right, he had to pay the tax.

Stu
Yeah. The Trump organization would pay him basically double so that Cohen wouldn't get stuck with the tax bill. So Cohen would pay, pay the taxes as if it was income and then he would still be left over with the same amount he paid to Stormy Daniels, or in this case, this it organization.

So he's, the quote is, you stole from the Trump Organization. Right. From the attorney, Cohen admits, yes, sir. He says on the stand now, the, even the New York Times writes this up this way. There is another, this is another big ding to Cohen's credibility.

Glenn Beck
Ding.

Stu
Yes. Jurors have heard that he has lied to Congress, tax authorities and on the witness stand. And now they are hearing that he stole from the Trump organization.

Glenn Beck
Now, I've had dings in my car.

Stu
Yes.

Glenn Beck
I would say this was a massive wreckage where the car would be totaled.

Stu
I'd argue they totaled the car on this one.

Glenn Beck
Yes.

Stu
I don't, I mean, I don't know how you could possibly believe this guy anyway. You know, some of the stuff, like if he, if there are text messages or other people supporting it, maybe you could say, all right, well, he's telling the story. There are a few other pieces of evidence that agree with it, and that has happened on some points in, during this case. But generally speaking, they are relying almost solely on Michael Cohen to be the voice of credibility.

And now we know that not only is he lied to everyone else in his life, by the way, including his wife, we didn't even include that in the list, who he lied to when he took out all of this money on a second mortgage and tried to hide it from her. By his own admission, he's admitted to lying to all of these people. Basically, you're supposed to believe that he has taken every moment of his entire life and filled it with lies, with every person he's ever dealt with, except this one moment where he's sitting in front of you on the witness stand.

Glenn Beck
Okay, so hear me out on this theory.

OJ Simpson.

I think this is a, this is a political version of what happened to OJ Simpson. And I hope it doesn't turn that way, you know, in the end. But if they find him guilty, it will be exactly what happened with the OJ Simpson case. Except this is political, not racial.

The jury hates him, Donald Trump, so much that no matter what the facts say, they'll deem him guilty where OJ Simpson, the jurors wanted a black man to beat the system, beat the man so badly that they admit it now. They voted for not guilty, even though they believe the facts led to guilty.

I hope that doesn't happen. But that's what this feels like to me because it's in New York, any other place but in New York, it. Can you get with this judge, can you get a trial that, with jurors, enough jurors to tell the truth? And by the way, just like, do you remember, were you old enough to remember the OJ Simpson trial?

Stu
Oh, yeah, I certainly do. Yeah.

Glenn Beck
So OJ Simpson, if you remember right, there was speculation.

Can the trial that, can the jurors ever identify themselves if they find him guilty?

Because the black community was so for OJ Simpson.

And I would ask the same thing. Can these jurors, all from New York City, can they live a normal life and not, and live without danger if they release him?

Stu
Because certainly not going to get invited to many parties. No, I'll tell you that.

Glenn Beck
No, I mean, what are all of the other factors that are coming into this? This is tough.

Stu
You do, isn't, isn't there a moment here for you, Glenn, where you think a little bit about just the legal system and the fact that it's supposed to work and that we have a tradition of people judging these things? Honestly, isn't there at least a possibility that, of a hung jury? Isn't there one or two people on this jury, maybe that. Look at, this is a joke.

Glenn Beck
There only needs one.

Stu
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
Do you think that's. And it is my hope that there is one that will hold out and say, no way, no way. I'm not changing my vote. No, I don't care about what you guys say.

No.

Hopefully we can pray that there is one person, I mean, assuming we're not in the jury room. But what it looks like here, this is, this is a, this is an assault on our judicial system. Just like I think OJ Simpson was an assault on the judicial system. I understood that one a little more because the black man had been, you know, just raped in our judicial system for so long that I kind of, it was still a travesty and awful and I hated it. But you could see it. This one is merely politics. That's it. Yeah, politics.

Stu
This is. They see this as their last opportunity to win this election in a way. Right. And the other three trials are probably going to happen before the election.

Obviously, if Trump wins, he'll throw out two of them, right. The federal stuff will all be thrown out.

This is a, this feels like their last chance. And they're looking at this as an opportunity. And like, you know, coming into this case, Glenn, it was a weak case. Everyone knew that the fact that it has gone so much more poorly than they even expected has to rise to some level of, you think, of opportunity for this to be shut down. Right. I mean, it doesn't, it, man, it's just, it's, if you have any faith in the legal system and look, people, criminals do go to jail in New York, right? Like, this is not, it's not like every single time they're wrong. I mean, yeah, and I think that's true. I'm pretty sure. I mean, sure Harvey Weinstein's out probably walking around. Forget that. Forget that example.

Glenn Beck
The plants of New York all over, just like, keep Harvey away from me.

Stu
I mean, they don't charge anybody in New York for crimes anymore unless your last name is Trump. But I mean, over, you know, if you think about the average person in, in New York again, remember, the Trump attorneys had a chance to throw out anyone they thought was massively on, massively liberal and against Trump to an extent. They did their best to find people they thought they would be treated fairly by.

I mean, if we are really at the point where they can't find anyone to judge this rationally, we are at a real crossroads as far as our legal system goes entirely. Right. I mean, this is not just a question about Donald Trump in this election. It's far beyond that.

Glenn Beck
This is, Alan Dershowitz has said it. This is banana Republic time.

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He was in a helicopter crash, gosh darn it, and, and, and died.

Let's just take a moment to, you know, honor him. Okay. I think that's enough. And we don't know what happened yet.

I mean there is rumor and it's just strictly rumor that he had information on the other unnamed grandchild of Joe Biden from Hunter and Hillary. But, but I don't put a lot of stock into, into that one. I think this, there's a possibility this was done by the IRGC because the Ayatollah Khomeini who is getting old, his son is the predecessor, is the one who's supposed to follow him.

This guy was probably, if you can say this, more popular because the iranian people don't like a dynasty.

Gee, I wish we had that around here.

But we don't know yet. We don't know what it's going to mean. But it was a significant event.

And I also have just on a personal note, I just have to say how proud I am of my granddaughter. She is playing on a soccer team.

She's in fourth and fifth grade class.

And they're so good they had to have them play 6th and 7th graders.

And she was up for the, the main tournament and she's the goalie. And it was unbelievable. They went into double overtime and then they went into this insane kickoff thing where they kick it, you know, the five best kickers kick into the penalty.

Stu
Shot type of face. Yeah.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. And she got all the goals. They were doing fine. And then the coach didn't realize they were in sudden death and so he said Laura, like kick. And she just, it hit the bar and bounced off and they lost because of that. And she was devastated. But I have to tell you, she, I was so proud of her and her team and her team members all came around. They were all crying. You know, they're all little girls and they were all crying and they were hugging each other's and they were all saying, you know, we played our best and we did the right thing and we played fair and we were playing 7th graders and we're in the fourth and fifth grade.

And it was, it was just an amazing thing to watch. And I just wanted to congratulate Lorelei and her team, the Bees, which I think should be called the killer bees next year. I'm just, I'm just saying because this is the third year in a row they've been in the, in the championships.

Okay, coming up, more. Oh, have you heard what Pope Francis has said? What we should do to our border? I can't wait. I've been waiting for him to weigh in on what we should do with our border. He's a little upset with most Americans because we're so racist and xenophobic.

We'll give you that and so much more.

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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenbeck program, where we're really glad that you're here today.

I'm going to want to share something really special. Have you, I mean, I've heard people say this all over the country, no matter where they are. I don't think we're that divided.

If you stop listening to the media and all of the, you know, ivory tower people, if you just go across the country and you meet people your view of America is entirely different.

I read a, I read a book because I was forced to because of one of the best writers on my staff. He wrote a book. And last time, the last book he released, it was number one Christmas title, wasn't it?

Nathan Nipper
It was, yeah.

Glenn Beck
It made the number one Christmas title last year. Nathan has a degree in history. Nathan Nipper is who I'm talking about. He's one of the main writers on my show. He is really, really good and a nice guy too, but he has a history major. He also has been a Hollywood script writer, which I completely, I try to forget that, honestly, and I don't know how he survived because he's one of us, but he's written a new book called American Inheritance. And if I may, Nathan, may I just describe it just a little bit? Sure. It is the story of this guy.

California, right? Lives in California, San Francisco area.

Nathan Nipper
He does, yeah.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. So he's living in San Francisco and, you know, he's a typical guy and, you know, he has a San Francisco attitude about America, but he, you know, at the very beginning, he can hook up with this hot girl who is, you know, even more of a marxist. And, you know, he's like, I'll be a marxist.

And has a grandfather that he's never met. Always heard bad things about.

Lives in Virginia, he thinks Virginia, you know, is stars and bars and, you know, let's. Let's lynch everybody.

So has no interest in meeting this guy.

He's a script writer. It sounds like Nathan's life, except for hooking up with the marxist thing.

And he's. He's just at the bottom of, of his barrel, but he's very liberal.

He gets a phone or a letter from his grandfather's office. He's very, very wealthy and says there's a possible inheritance.

Come to my office this Tuesday and. And we'll discuss your possible inheritance. He has no idea what it means or anything else. He ends up going to meet with his grandfather and his grandfather gives him a quest.

And like I said, if you've ever traveled America, you get the real understanding of America. So, Nathan, what is the request from the grandpa?

Nathan Nipper
Yeah, it's. It's a unique deal that his grandson Tom is really in no position to refuse. He's got a mountain of student loan debt and doesn't really know what he's going to do with his life. And the opportunity is he could earn potentially a multimillion dollar inheritance if, and only if, he will do this cross country road trip. And he has to follow an itinerary designed by the grandfather to try to alter his grandson's very cynical view of America. And so the grandfather kind of being into history, and he's Tom's political polar opposite. So he's very conservative, believes in America, the american dream, loves history. And so he sends him to various historical sites, some natural wonders, and has him meet with some friends of his that he knows will challenge Tom's worldview, which is very left wing. Kind of the typical thing that we hear all the time in daily headlines. Right. Of the left's view of America's past, present, and future. Which is what I like about him.

Glenn Beck
Is he's, I mean, you know, he'll date a marxist and even go there, but he's, he is definitely not in love with America and definitely a leftist, but he's not, he's not an activist who just is insane and you know what I mean?

Nathan Nipper
Right. And it's kind of a spiritual journey, too, because of someone that he meets along the way and because, you know, frankly, he's searching like a lot of people his age. He thinks socialism sort of fills this void and is maybe quasi religious to him.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. Yeah.

Nathan Nipper
But he knows he still doesn't have, you know, he's sort of agnostic, maybe atheist. He doesn't really know what he believes. And so he does have that one key. And I think this is one of the main messages of the book, at least I hope is an allusion to Benjamin Franklin, something that he said during the constitutional convention. You know, this idea that you got to have your mind cracked open that you might be wrong about some things. Right. And so he does. He's, at least, Tom is at least gifted with that, that he has just enough of an open mind that even though he's very resistant to this trip the whole way through and everything, it's open enough that he, he may have it filled with something that he might not expect.

Glenn Beck
So this is one of those books. And honestly, Nathan, I couldn't put it down. It's really good.

Nathan Nipper
Thanks. Thank you.

Glenn Beck
When you're, when I was reading it, I thought, this is so obvious. How come I didn't think of it? What gave you this idea? Because it's.

It is what people always say.

Nathan Nipper
Yeah.

Well, a couple things. The initial idea, it's like, as a writer, I mean, I'm thankful for this. People who do sort of creative artist type things may understand this, but sometimes it just comes to you. You're not sitting down trying to think of an idea. Right.

Glenn Beck
Yeah.

Nathan Nipper
And this one I'm sure was an outgrowth obviously of working here and the stuff that we deal with every day with headlines and kind of the worst news about America.

Glenn Beck
Right.

Nathan Nipper
And trying to balance it with principles and what we believe about the potential of America.

But it was, you know, it was also this stuff that has been in the culture for the last few years of what is America, what's the story that America is going to tell about itself. Right. You know, the grandfather character at one point in the book tells his grandson that a nation cannot thrive on shame. And I truly believe that, you know, you can't continue to hammer this.

America is irredeemably bad, racist and the whole nine yards and survive, obviously. And you talk about this all the time, but you can't ignore the bad stuff. And boys, there are plenty, I mean, there's some days I'm just ashamed of stuff that you learned that we've done in our past that we're doing now. It's awful, but it's not the whole story. Right. And so it's got to be balanced. And so this was kind of my way of addressing those things that were frustrating me. And I think a lot of people, a lot of like minded conservatives have that frustration of what are we witnessing here? You know, sometimes it feels like you have a front row seat to sort of the end of the republic.

And that's not the case. It's not inevitable that that's the way it goes. Right.

And so this is sort of my pushback against that culture.

Glenn Beck
How did you get into the, I mean, for the, I mean, reading the first chapter and I'm like, Nathan, this audience is not going to like this because it's right in the mind of the leftist. Yeah. And at first you have no idea where it's going. At least, you know, I didn't.

How did you capture that so accurately?

Nathan Nipper
Well, I mean, honestly, it's probably mostly the graduate school of working here and we get so much of this stuff all the time that you just understand it and you understand the mindset, you understand what their goals are. And several years ago, Jonathan Hyde, I think, wrote about this, the fact that there's some academic research bearing out the fact that conservatives generally understand the positions of the left much better than the left understands the positions of the right. So I wouldn't say that I knew all this stuff eight years ago that I understood the leftist mindset as well. But goodness, we get so much of it here that it just, after a while it's kind of second nature.

Glenn Beck
Well, I have to tell you, I found it refreshing and inspirational in ways. And I don't know who you're targeting. Targeting. Are you. Are you hoping that this will be passed on to people who maybe don't have a completely closed mind but maybe haven't gone to college yet and haven't completely wiped clean?

Nathan Nipper
I mean, ultimately, yes, I would love it to go to people who have that mind cracked open. Right. That they might not feel like they have all the answers.

It's partially inspired. I dedicated the book to my sons. I have two teenage sons. It's not a book for teenagers. I would say more high school graduates, college graduates on up, adults of all ages.

But that was kind of the mindset, you know, that something that I could pass on and hopefully help young people on either side, really, if they're willing to pick it up, to be able to understand what's going on in our politics, what drives each side and help them think for themselves.

Glenn Beck
It's called american inheritance. The author is Nathan Nipper, who never.

I mean, it bothers me.

And, Nathan, I think you know this. I've said it several times. It bothers me that we don't run credits at the end of all of my programs because I work with the best people. They're good, solid people. They're God fearing people, and they're really, really smart.

Nathan is in the middle of. I don't know how you're doing it because you write, what, every other show, right? On Wednesday nights?

Nathan Nipper
Yeah. Well, the only way I've been able to do it is Jason has taken some double duty recently, so.

Glenn Beck
Wow. I didn't. I don't think I approved that.

Nathan Nipper
Yeah, we did it.

Glenn Beck
No, but he's. He's not only it not only writes every other program, but he has. Jason has taken on a little extra because he's also writing a new series for me that will be audio only. How many have we done so far? Four have been recorded, so we've recorded.

Nathan Nipper
Four, about to do a fifth. And we'll have hopefully two more episodes after that. So seven total, although the pilot aired last summer, so a lot of people have heard that one. But it would be six new episodes. Yeah.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. Six new episodes. And it is how we got here. How did we. How did we start being a country that doesn't listen to itself anymore? We only listen to experts. And Nathan, with his degree in history and his curious mind, we've just put together an amazing limited series, and that's coming out here in a few weeks as well.

So he's been a busy writer. Very busy writer.

Yeah. Nathan Nipper. The name of the book is american inheritance.

You can get it at Amazon or Barnes and Noble, but grab it. It's a great, great read for the summer. Nathan Nipper's american inheritance. Buy it now. Back in a minute. Thanks, Nathan.

Nathan Nipper
Thanks, Glenn.

Glenn Beck
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Speaker C
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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

We're glad you're here. Thank you so much. Boy, who would have seen it coming? Sean Diddy Combs now is admits to beating his, his wife or was he wife or girlfriend?

Stu
I think his girlfriend. Girlfriend at the time. Does it count as an admission when everyone's seen the video. No, I don't say admits.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. No. And he said, I, boy, this one of the darkest times in my life and I really screwed it up. And, you know, I'm disgusted. I was disgusted when I did it. I'm disgusted now. You know, you can say that after the video comes out and everybody sees how horrendous that was, that beating.

But I don't, I don't, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't think it's sincere after the video comes out.

Stu
After he's been denying it for months and months and months that none of this was true and none of it happened.

Glenn Beck
Speaker three and when, you know, if he would have come out, you know, when it was first, you know, accused and he said, I did it, I'm ashamed. But, you know, even if he said, I'm not sure it was as bad as she says it was, but I did it and I was ashamed. No, no, you can't come out and apologize. The question is, will he receive what even Louis CK has received? Will he be driven out or not?

Stu
That feels like the type of, again, if it doesn't get any worse than this, it feels like at least this Louis CK thing happens. I don't know because there's been a lot of smoke about this for a while and he's, he's been denying it and there's never been anything other than his words. When you see the video, though, I mean, it's really, really awful.

Glenn Beck
The, the, the rap world, I know this sounds kind of obvious, has got to be really dark. What was the other rap? What was the other rapper that had all the film on? Everybody was kind of a, and then you had R. Kelly that was, you know, enslaving young girls. I mean, it's, it's bad.

What's going on.

All right. Oh, by the way, remember the gym in New Jersey that the governor kept going after during COVID Yeah. They finally won the final case against the governor, and they won all of them.

They don't have to pay any charges, and I hope they press charges.

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