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Let me. Let me just start with James O'Keefe. James O'Keefe has revealed all kinds of stuff for the last 20 years. Actual crimes.

And the New York Times just. They don't have time for anything. James O'Keefe. In fact, nobody in the mainstream media has anything on James O'Keefe. They just wait. You know, he's just not credible.

But when it comes to the Supreme Court justices, two justices were recorded at a Supreme Court gala last week. This woman was posing as a catholic conservative. And the New York Times will have, you know.

Gotcha.

Yes. Here's the headline. Alito and Robert's secretly recorded at a gala share markedly different worldviews.

Well, do they?

Let's go through this article in 60 seconds.

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Well, they got him this time, Stu. We're done. We're cooked. We're toast.

Stu
Finally, it's finally happened. We knew it could happen at any moment, and finally it has.

Glenn Beck
According to the New York Times, Justice Samuel A. Alito Junior told a woman posing as a catholic conservative last week that a compromise in America between the left and right might be impossible.

And then he agreed with a view that the nation should return to a place of godliness.

My gosh, what are the details? I don't think I need them. I think I have everything I need to know.

So let me just start on the first phrase before we get into all of the details. Do you think, Stu, that we can compromise our way out of this situation?

Stu
It would be an interesting thing. I think perhaps if we kill half of the babies, that might be a good way to compromise. Maybe half of each baby.

The right half or the left?

Glenn Beck
Right. So just cut the baby in half, leave the head alive or the feet alive. One of the two.

Stu
I think that, like, that's good. Of course, compromise. I think a lot of these issues are just built for compromise.

Jamie Kilstein
Glen.

Glenn Beck
Right. For instance, I like capitalism.

They hate capitalism. Uh, I like small government. They hate small government and want a big, oppressive government to do everything for us.

I'm not sure how we compromise here. Um, because it used to be live and let live, you know, because we all agreed on one thing, basic human rights. We no longer believe in those things.

I do. You do. We still believe in the constitution. I'm not trying to change or destroy the country. I'm trying to save it, man. May God help us from the people who are trying to save us, you know, and save democracy. My gosh, those people are. They're killing it because we're not a democracy. We're a constitutional Republican. There's a huge difference there. So Alito goes on to say, one side or the other is going to win. How controversial is that, stu?

Stu
It's actually how our election process works. It's how all of this works. One side wins and the other side does not win. And everyone's trying.

Glenn Beck
Okay.

Stu
My understanding of the Biden campaign, for example, is this would be their goal, right, to try to win the election.

Glenn Beck
Right? To try to win. Yeah. Yeah. There can be a way of working, a way of living together peacefully, but it is difficult because there are differences on fundamental things that can't be compromised.

For instance, I don't think freedom of speech can be compromised. That's why I stand for people like Roseanne Barr when she was in trouble, James Gunn when he was in trouble from Marvel. I really disagreed with what he said. How about this one? Bill Maher, when he came out right after September 11 and said, you know, at least their guys had courage.

Really? Wow. That's what you're going to say about the terrorists that flew the planes into the World Trade center? Well, yep. He was on ABC. They fired him for it. And I stood up. I don't agree with what he said, but my point was, ABC, you're running a show with Bill Maher called politically incorrect. What part of that title didn't you understand?

So I stand up for people's free speech because I believe in it.

They don't believe in it. They don't believe in free speech. They don't believe in the second amendment. We know now they don't believe in the fourth, the Fifth and 6th Amendment just because of what they've done with Donald Trump.

I believe in all of the amendments. Well, I don't know. The tax one and the Fed creation is kind of a problem for me. But anyway, one side or the other is going to win.

There can be a way of working together, but this can't be compromised. Miss Winster pressed Justice Alito further. I think the solution really is like winning the moral argument.

Wow.

You know what he said to that?

I agree.

I agree. So wait, that's how extreme he is.

Stu
You should try to advocate for your views and hope that they become the majority view.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. Win the moral argument, right? Yeah, yeah.

Stu
Wow.

Glenn Beck
That has the word moral in it.

Stu
Oh, my gosh. That's. Now, of course, the left uses moral language all the time to justify what they believe, but no, no, no.

Glenn Beck
That's totally different. That is totally different.

Stu
Okay. How?

Glenn Beck
Yeah, yeah. That's women's health care. That's women's health care.

Stu
Like, you have a right to, you know, an abortion, for example. They would never advocate for that on moral grounds.

Glenn Beck
Well, no, they haven't been lately. You know, they're shout your abortion. You know, so they haven't been lately. I don't think that's a moral argument. But, you know, the word moral is in it, and Alito said it, so it must be bad. She went on and said, like, people in this country who believe in God have got to keep fighting for that, to return our country to a place of godliness. You know what he said to that one? I agree. Whoa, sky's out of control again. I don't understand. And it kind of probably boils down to basic human rights. See, we can't compromise. Because you're saying that I can't fight for a return to a decent, godly society. I don't, I really don't care what religion you're in. I really don't.

So. But I can't fight for a return to the, the time tested principles of the Ten Commandments. I, that's a problem.

If that's a problem for you, then there is no compromise.

Just like you, you know, you're like, well, you know, we should have abortion. You know, we're going to compromise. We're going to say, not in the 543rd trimester. Can you kill a baby?

Well, I really don't think we should kill babies. You can't compromise here.

No, no, you won't compromise. And we're the one saying that it's murder.

So. Chief Justice Roberts, according to the New York Times, was also secretly recorded, and he pushed back against Windsor's assertion that the court had an obligation to lead the country on a more moral path. Mm hmm. Mm hmm.

Would you want me to be in charge of putting the nation on a more moral path? That's for people we elect. That's not for lawyers.

She then pushed him on religion. I believe the founders were godly, like we're Christians. Like we're Christians.

I think that we live in a christian nation and that our Supreme Court should be guiding us in that path. Justice Roberts said, I don't know if that's true. I don't know if we live in a christian nation. I know a lot of jewish and muslim friends who would say, maybe not, and it's not our job to do that. When she pressed him on whether they, she thought there was a role for the court in guiding us toward a more moral path, he said, no, I think the role of the court is for deciding cases.

Now let me ask you, do you think Ginsburg would have answered this way.

Stu
No, I mean, she had interviews where she basically said, you know, said the opposite. Not to mention they have these things that Supreme Court justices do. And this is, this is amazing.

Where they outline their opinions in their opinions that they write.

Glenn Beck
No, wait a minute. Wait. No, they don't actually share their opinions. Yeah. Well, in the opinion.

Stu
Yeah. Like when they had, they have these things called opinions. And what they do is they put their opinions in them and they write them down and they get printed and posted online. You can go through them and they describe what they think about each individual case. And that's what Rito does and that's what Ginsburg did.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, you might say that anything that these two guys said, it's already been written down in some of their opinions.

Stu
Only dozens of times. Only dozens of times. So.

Glenn Beck
All right. It's really. Wow. That is, well, she said, you know, the reason why I recorded them is because I wanted to get them on the record. So, you know, again, dismiss your opinions. Opinions, theory, she said. So the only way I had was to record, because I had to record them. I had to have the proof of that accounter. Otherwise it was just my word against theirs.

And what is your word exactly? That the Supreme Court justices said, yeah, I think people should fight for what they believe in.

And, no, I, I really don't think the role of the court is to lead people, you know, to moral platitudes and, and, and higher ground. I think that's what we have elections for.

Wow.

I mean, good thing she got them on the record because what a burn that is.

Stu
What a giant zilch of a story.

Glenn Beck
Zero. They got zero.

Stu
Nothing out of this. And what's, I think, more fascinating than the actual content, which you dutifully just went through? Honestly, it was hard to even get through because it's so stupid. But it's like the New York Times has written 20 news stories on the Alito flag situation since it began. Yeah, 20. I don't know. It's something like that. None of them have had any content in them. They've all been nothing. You have a situation here where they, they basically attempt to do a bad James O'Keefe impression with Supreme Court justices. They get nothing out of it. And there are multiple stories in the New York Times today describing it, including a situation in the encounter with Alito's wife, where she, unknowingly off, not knowing she's on the record, completely disproves all their previous reporting.

She actually comes out and says, yeah, no, it's me with the flags and like, I, he won't let me put him up. And like she says, his Alito's excuse for all of this, saying that he had nothing to do with it, they were completely skeptical of. Then a story comes out where he's not. She's not known that she's on being recorded and completely disproves their previous reporting. And they report it like they got her. Like, where they never report on anything that James O'Keefe does. They threw the guy who was recording Planned Parenthood people in prison over recording them. And here we are. Like, they're acting like they have something when nothing occurred at all. It is completely reversed from all reality. And that's exactly where they seem to want to be.

Glenn Beck
Well, I have to tell you, I think maybe you're only saying this because you haven't heard what she has on Alito about the power of the court. Speaker one.

Stu
Oh, yeah. That's probably where they, that's probably it. I didn't know that's where they got this.

Glenn Beck
I mean, this is like, hands down, this is breathtaking.

This is breathtaking. The gall of this guy. Okay. Alito said at the same event last year that the court couldn't identify the individuals who had leaked the Dobbs decision because the court doesn't have the power to subpoena people or to testify to subpoena records, phone records or other things like that. They don't have the authority. He said we don't have the authority. Windsor, the lady with the recording device. Oh, man, she got him this time.

She goaded Alito into agreeing, into agreeing that he wishes the court had more power.

And this is what he said. This is what he said. You know, she's like, the court's power is limited. I mean. I mean, you gotta have more power.

Gotcha. Listen to this.

Well, we're not a law enforcement agency. You know, it's people that have certain rights to privacy. So law enforcement agencies can issue subpoenas and get search warrants and all that sort of thing, but we can't do that.

Our Marshall did as much as she could do, and that's very limited.

Gotcha.

Look at the power hungry monster this guy is. Wow. New York Times.

Stu
Devastating. Devastating.

Can we do a GoFundme for like, a James O'Keefe media training session for this woman? Like, I don't think she understands how to do this.

I don't know. I still have to get her drunk on a date or something with Samuel Lito to get him to say something that you're going to like.

Glenn Beck
Well, I understand one of our astute writers at the blaze is coming out with a story about Miss Windsor that you're not going to want to miss later today.

Stu
Interesting.

Glenn Beck
Yeah.

Stu
Is she advocating for reviews? I hope we don't find that out, you know.

Glenn Beck
Oh, no, she's advocating for reviews and you've seen some of her views and you, you, you'll be like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. She was the one behind that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Deseret News is the main newspaper, the conservative newspaper.

I say that with air quotes in Salt Lake City, and they just ran a story. Tucker Carlson on tour who are his special guests? Former Fox News personality Tucker Carlson now headlines his own media company is taking show on the road in September with a constellation of conservative superstars and a couple of controversial figures. On Monday, Carlson announced his tour will bring him to Salt Lake City on September 7, accompanied by Glenn Beck. Tickets officially go on sale Friday for the 07:00 p.m. show at the Delta center. Although advanced sales for subscribers to the Tucker Carlson network, work began at 01:00 p.m. mountain daylight time by the way. Use the promo code, Glenn Beck, and you'll be able to buy them early anyway.

In a news release that called Carlson's American's leading conservative journalist Tucker Carlson network announced other shows beginning September 4 with Russell Brand and then ending with Donald Trump junior. Other guests, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Infowars founder Alex Jones.

Oh, okay.

One thing the special guests seem to have in common, support for Donald Trump.

Yeah. He also has Russell Brand, Tulsi Gabbard, Megyn Kelly, Kid Rock, Roseanne Barr, I don't know, Infowars, Glenn Beck and Marjorie Taylor Greene. You know, I'm saying that's just a pile of nut jobs there.

Oh, okay. Well, thanks for pointing that out. Deseret news, I really appreciate it. You guys are, man, you're getting more and more conservative every day. And I don't, you know, here's the thing. I don't have any secret tapes, you know, of you that I could expose because I just read your written word and it's almost like your opinions are in the news stories.

Who would have thunk that? That's crazy.

Back in just a minute.

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Stu
There'S a new special on voter fraud coming up on Blaze TV. Don't miss it. Blazetv.com. glenn, the code voter fraud.

Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're glad you're here, Stu. The. I hate to even mention Juneteenth because it is such a ridiculous thing outside of Texas. In Texas, it's a known holiday and it's a big deal, but Juneteenth for the rest of the country is meaningless.

But Joe Biden was at a Juneteenth concert yesterday, and he was rocking it. He was rocking it. I want to show you some video. If you're watching on the blaze still, maybe you can do the play by play and describe what's happening here. Go ahead, cut one.

Stu
Biden standing in the crowd like a statue. Everyone around him dancing. He's literally not moving a muscle.

His music playing and the dancing is going on. But he.

It almost looks nothing. It almost looks edited, that he's, like, so motionless and stiff.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, like a corpse.

Now, you know, it's interesting you brought up that editing thing because that's just such a short clip, you know? You don't know. You know, he probably was rocking it right, you know, just a couple of frames later.

So here's the full clip, five times the rate, five times the speed. Here we go. Cut to.

Stu
Oh, my gosh. What is going on? Everyone around him is moving, and he's not moving at all.

Glenn Beck
And especially the guy in the sequin dress, three. Three people down from him. Look at this.

Now. They're sitting.

Stu
Yeah, he's barely moving. That's very strange.

Glenn Beck
Very strange.

Stu
Better than him actually dancing. And that may have been his thought process there of, like, if I try to dance, I'm not sure there was.

Glenn Beck
A thought process there at all. You know, I'm not sure of it. No, I. Yeah, yeah. Not, not, not sure of that at all. Now, maybe we could get him the new apple intelligence.

Did you see this come out yesterday?

Stu
I did, yeah.

Glenn Beck
New apple. AI. Ah. Elon Musk is not, not real happy about this.

Thinks this is. He said, I won't let any apple product into any of my buildings if you go through with this. Here's just from the apple announcement yesterday. Here's the new Apple intelligence calculator.

Speaker
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Glenn Beck
Hmm.

Stu
It's pretty impressive.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. I'm not even sure what she was even talking about. I need AI to explain what she was trying to.

I don't. The velocity of a ping pong table and the height and how you hit it. Okay. I don't know.

Stu
The velocity of the ping pong table is particularly notable.

Glenn Beck
Ping pong ball. Yes. Yes, you're right. Ping pong table, zero. Good job. Velocity of zero.

Stu
The Joe Biden velocity when he's dancing.

Yes.

Glenn Beck
That Joe Biden looks like it is really impressive on what AI can do.

You know, it's just also really spooky on what AI can do. And, you know, Ray Kurzweil's idea is that it'll make us all better. It will make us all.

It'll free up our mind if we don't have to think about the calculations. We can think about deeper things.

No, no, we're not going to think deeper things. We're not going to store even more knowledge. We're probably going to watch more porn and play more games.

Yeah, that's probably what will happen.

Stu
You mentioned, I think, yesterday, Glenn, the Doug Bergam origin story. Like the Doug Bergam prequel to the superhero he's become today.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Stu
It was essentially this in a nutshell. He had a bunch of calculations he did by hand, and someone showed him that a computer could do it for him more quickly. And he decided to go into the software industry. Right. And it's like that is kind of what, what this stuff is going to do. But we have good evidence as to whether people start thinking more deeply about things when that revolution happens. No, we just start looking at dumb seven second videos on TikTok like that's what we do. We turn our brains off completely and never think again.

Glenn Beck
Yes, exactly right. Exactly right. And how's that going to work out for us? I don't think really. Well, let me go to cut six here. This is Nancy Pelosi taking responsibility for the lack of January 6 security.

Speaker
We have responsibility, Terry. We did not have any accountability for what was going on there, and we should have.

This is ridiculous. You're gonna ask me in the middle of the thing when they've already breached the inaugural stuff that, should we call the Capitol police? I mean, the National Guard. Why weren't the National Guard there to begin with?

They thought that they had sufficient. There's not a question of how they had. They don't know.

They clearly didn't know. And I can. Responsibility for not having them just prepare for more.

Stu
Yeah, it should.

Glenn Beck
Yeah.

Now here's Nancy Pelosi about that clip.

Speaker
The fact is that the president of the United States, the former president and his toadies do not want to face the facts. They're trying to do revisionist history on January 6. But we cannot let us be dragged into their, again, false impression of what happened that day. They know what happened that day.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. How, how is it, how is it that releasing the clip of her taking responsibility and saying, I should have known, how come they weren't there? Somebody knew. Why didn't I know?

How is, how is playing that clip revisionist history? Wouldn't revisionist history be.

I don't know what she's saying now.

Stu
Yeah. She's revising what actually occurred to her own benefit. That is her version of revisionist history night.

Glenn Beck
I just don't. Hmm.

Let's see.

Let me play, let me play this illegal immigrant talking to Fox News.

He is going to, well, he's not saying he's going to vote, but if he was going to vote, how would he vote? Cut nine. What do you think of President Biden?

Stu
Biden, I love. Why this? Why do you love him?

Biden help us.

Glenn Beck
It's good.

Stu
That's a really weird.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, I know. And it's weird because there's, there's no, there's not a lot of Americans that are saying that right now. You know, Biden helped us. No, can't, can't see that. 62% of Americans now back mass deportations of illegal immigrants.

62%.

Do you know who almost unanimously don't agree with that?

Illegal immigrants. They're in. A new poll shows that they're almost 100% in lockstep against mass deportations.

So.

Wow. You know what that is? You know what that is? This is Biden couldn't convince people anymore of they're going to put you all back in chains.

He couldn't convince black people of that lie anymore.

This is the new black people back in change. They he's going to send you back to your country.

Yeah. Yeah, that one's true. The back in chains thing was never true. But, you know, that's what they'll do, I guess. Now they're. The New York Times again is showing the rights racism.

Two black Republican House members and Trump surrogates reserved a cigar bar near downtown Philadelphia last week and invited conservative organizers and Trump curious black voters to smoke and sip Cognac.

Some Democrats denounced it as a crass play rooted in stereotypes.

Stu
Did the people who attended the event think that where they were like, gosh, he is really stereotyping us. That's why I'm going, well, I'm, I've.

Glenn Beck
Had a problem with this story for the last couple of days and I bring it to the table today because I still can't figure it out.

Let me just read this again. Trump's arrogance reserved a cigar bar near downtown Philadelphia last week, invited conservative organizers and Trump curious black voters to smoke and sip coin yet coin, cognac. Now when I think of cognac, I think, lovey, I need my cognac.

I don't. Are blacks known for their cigar and cognac evenings?

Because I really thought that was an elitist white, you know, I always, I would think of George Soros being like, yes, and then we kill all of them as he's, you know, warming the cognac under his, you know, in his hand. Yes. And maybe mutilate them a little bit, too. It's kind of fun.

I don't see the, what's the stereotype there?

Stu
I mean, Hennessy is occasionally associated with an african american demographic, perhaps. I don't know if that's accurate. But I've, you know, I've heard people say that that's, that's something like in, you know, pop culture and stuff that I've seen. But I don't, I don't know if it's actually a real thing. I don't know that people utilize it in that way.

Glenn Beck
I mean, you know, you could, if they were like, come on down and have menthol cigarettes and Colt 45, then maybe, maybe. But the menthol cigarette thing comes from Joe Biden trying to buy people into voting for him by not taxing menthol cigarettes even higher. He's going to hold off on that. He wants to get rid of menthol cigarettes because they blow a hole in your lung, but he's going to hold off because them blacks like their menthol cigarettes, apparently.

Stu
It's incredible.

Glenn Beck
Who's the, it's watching, watching this stuff pour out of the news every day is, is a fun house mirror. It's like a magic show. It's like watching a magic show. Everything just goes in, and it comes out a rabbit. You're like, wait, that was an egg that he put in. How did a chicken come out of the hat? I don't understand that somehow or another. But I've never gone to, like, David Copperfield and said, you know, I'd like to get some advice on you, from you, on what's really going on, because you made a coin disappear.

These people are making things disappear and reappear and, and making it look like one thing when it's another. I mean, it's a magic show. Do you, speaker one. And I don't think there's at any time in history we've ever asked for the advice from a magician.

Stu
Usually not a good idea. Do you think this works? I mean, what was it? Typically, about 90% of african american voters go for the Democrats.

Glenn Beck
I do think it works.

Stu
Um, and now it's reportedly around, uh, between 75 and 80 in a lot of these polls. So it's art. There's already been movement. Is this, are these efforts something that work, or is the.

Glenn Beck
Does I think it does with Donald Trump? It does. It does. I mean, he got 12% from black men in 2020. If he can get 2020, 5%.

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So there is a new list out that you may have seen.

Ukrainian outlet with ties to the US State Department has put out an enemies list. Now they say it's not an enemies list. It's just those who are against the war in Ukraine and are lying liars because, you know, it's clear we should be at war with Russia. Everybody knows that.

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I can find the blaze.

And I'm just. I'm just a lowly, you know, peg on that long, tall, tall, tall ladder.

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Well, there's yet another enemies list.

This time it's coming from an ukrainian outlet.

So why would we care if the Ukrainians were saying that people like me, the blaze, Ben Shapiro, are spreading miss and mal information?

Well, I think you can imagine why.

Well, they said, they say it's not a kill list or, you know, or anything like that. It's just people who are engaged in Russia disinformation. And some of them are evil, and some of them are just hapless dupes. I'm not sure which one I am, but I have to take this and peel this a little bit so you can see what's just beneath the veneer of the ukrainian publication.

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so let me just give you this story first. Ukrainian publication with the editor of in chief, who has ties to the US State Department, has placed dozens of american politicians, activists, and media outlets, including Blaze media and Glenn Beck, on a list of those allegedly known to have shared russian disinformation or otherwise made anti ukrainian statements on Thursday, an independent media outlet that fuses data journalism projects with traditional journalistic genres.

This, according to their website, they published an article entitled Rollercoaster. From Trumpists to communists, the forces in the US impeding aid to Ukraine and how they do it. Now, there's 75 of us on this list, but nearly 400 entities that have opposed sending aid to Ukraine in its war against Russia.

We were mentioned, blaze media and myself mentioned on pages 34 of a 47 page list. The anti ukrainian blaze media links are all from 2023. They include one which Blaze news article. There's one blaze news article, two tweets, one of which is just showing a quip, a clip and a quote from Tucker Carlson, who's also on the list, and then three segments with Blaze Media's Glenn Beck. Okay.

Okay.

Now what were the clips?

Well, the first, the first clip that they had a problem with was that I had said that the plan to go into Russia or to have Ukraine fight Russia and us to back them up was in the works in 2016.

And text, he came out and said, that is an absolute lie.

Hey, he's just making this stuff up.

Well, the reason why I said that is because we found a clip that I had never seen before.

This is Lindsey Graham with John McCain in the background during election 2016 in Ukraine talking to the generals and the troops. Listen to what he said. Your fight is our fight.

2017 will be the year of offense.

All of us will go back to.

Stu
Washington and we will push the case.

Glenn Beck
Against Russia enough of a russian aggression.

Stu
It is time for them to pay a heavier price.

Glenn Beck
Our fight is not with the russian people, but with Putin.

Our promise to you is to take your calls to Washington.

Stu
Inform the american people of your bravery.

Glenn Beck
And make the case against Putin to the world.

Okay? Isn't that what happened in 2020 or 2021? Isn't that exactly what happened now? Russia did invade.

I, you know, I'm not going to make a case for Vladimir Putin being a good guy because he's an absolute monster.

However, you know, when you have the State Department doing a color revolution in 2014 in Ukraine to get rid of the, the Russian that they say was, was running Ukraine, and then you have Lindsey Graham and John McCain during the election saying 2017 is the year we go on offense, it's time they pay a heavier price.

Well, I would say that that kind of sounds like, you know, we're. We're for going right after Russia, our fights, not with the russian people, just Vladimir Putin. That sounds like regime change, does it not?

Now, why didn't it happen in 2017, because the unthinkable happened.

Donald Trump was elected.

That's what happened.

Donald Trump was elected in 2017. He became the president of the United States. And what happened, he all of a sudden was painted as a guy who was for Russia and the russian interference. Forget the Chinese, just the russian interference alone. So the enemy of Hillary Clinton and the State Department and everybody else, the enemy became Russia. And Donald Trump tied closely together.

The offense had to wait for four years, but they continued to smear Donald Trump with Russia. That was the whole case.

Okay, so now let me go on.

Let me tell you about a show we did a few weeks ago.

Regime change.

It's been United States policy for a very long time. Covert CIA operations.

We go in, we manipulate the foreign media, we meddle in elections, we topple governments, and then, you know, we go back to saying, we didn't do that. What are you talking about? This is. This started with the cold war. But nothing the CIA pulled off comes even close to what their successor began doing.

Who was the successor to the CIA? Covert ops? Well, it was the United States government that includes the CIA, along with NGO's, trade unions, and people like George Soros.

Color revolutions.

The first one that was really successful was the Middle east. The Arab Spring. Right?

I told you the Arab Spring was.

Had its roots in communist. The european spring.

Back after the communist manifesto was written, they tried to overthrow all of Europe, and it was called the european spring.

How could this just peaceful movement just suddenly have. Have the roots in revolutionary Marxism?

Well, color revolutions. Middle east, then Latin America and eastern Europe. Ukraine is one of them. And here's what they do. The United States, so they can keep their distance, goes through NGO's and trade unions. They train and mobilize street movements.

Kind of like, let's see if I can think of a street movement that seems like it wasn't actually real BLM or the palestinian street movements. By the way, as we've shown you, funded by these same kind of people.

So we showed you all of the evidence on a color revolution and how it was done, and they did it all out in the open, and they even bragged about it.

I showed you the people and the organizations at the top of the color revolution sphere. I also showed you that some of these people, NGO's trade unions, are now active here in the United States, and they seem to pop up every four years. Totally coincidentally, their money and their actions usually come at a time of massive civil unrest right before an election.

Now, there's usually some kind of, you know, government element at the top could be the CIA.

Most likely it's the State Department and USAID, but ultimately it's the office of the president.

So we did a chalkboard on this. We showed that that has to happen. You have to have those in the government that are wanting to overthrow another government. Then the operation is privatized to give it distance from the government. This is where the NGO's like the National Endowment for Democracy come in. Okay. The NED is composed of four different entities, the National Democratic Institute, the International Republican Institute, the American center for International Labor Solidarity, and the center for International Private Enterprise. You see what's happening. You have both sides, so it looks fair, Republican and Democrat. Plus you have labor and private enterprise, everybody coming together.

So this is a bipartisan kind of COVID story.

Next on the food chain, you have to have the multibillion dollar financiers and their organizations that partner in the entire operation. This is where George Soros comes in, the Open Society foundation, that tides foundation. And then there are the people that spread the message, demonstrate in the streets and the media to report what the government wants you to report, wants them to report to the masses.

This is the blueprint.

We've done it over and over and over again.

And I make the case that these same people are doing it here in America.

Stu
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
So why is the blaze, why am I on this list? I'm on this list because I believe I'm telling you exactly what's happening. We have a color revolution happening within our own government, within the NGO's and George Soros and all those people.

This is what they're doing.

And there's a possibility this time they succeed, because you have to have, and quote, illegitimate president.

You have to have street movements that are not only saying that it's illegitimate, you also have the media saying it's illegitimate, and it doesn't work. If Donald Trump is the one saying he stole the election, it has to be their side saying the election was stolen.

Now, let me go back to the outlet and who these people are, the ones that put this miss dis and and dangerous information out.

You'll be surprised to hear that there's some of the same exact connections to color revolution.

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They do note that they couldn't establish direct, proven ties between most of the people and outlets and on its list and the russian government or known russian propagandists.

Instead, they say it just gathered evidence that these same people and outlets have spread russian disinformation by echoing key messages of russian propaganda in their arguments against sending Ukraine further aid.

Okay, so who's, who is the, who are the people behind tech? See.org dot texty.org comma. The co founder is an Toli Bonda caner.

I could say it earlier, bond and arrow still wrong. Anyway, who is he?

Has he ever been involved in anything?

Well, yeah, he was involved in the tech camp, a public diplomacy program established by the Bureau of Educational and Cultural affairs at the US Department of State. What is the tech camp? The tech camp is when they go into these countries where they're going to do a color revolution and they find all these tech savvy people and they show them how to build movements against their government. That's what our State department is doing. Okay, do they, would they like to clarify this? Would anybody like to make a public statement on why we're there? And, you know, curious why the editor in chief and the co founder was trained by the State Department? I mean, it's, it's really interesting that this organization has ties to the State Department and USAID, their founder, was part of the tech camps.

I mean, it's weird. It's almost like we're, you know, we've been outed for saying bad things about the State Department and the us government perpetrating color revolutions and saying, this is how they do it. And so then they have a shell organization that they themselves have created.

To what prove me right? Is that what's happening here?

In hopes that you will never understand why names are on this list, they say it's not a kill list, it's not an enemies list.

It's just a list that demonstrates the evidence supporting the thesis presented in the article. The article is not an accusation, but a study of the political and media context that influences government decisions regarding further support for the Ukraine and the ukrainian russian war.

They don't deny, condemn, or dispute the right of american citizens, media, or institutions to express any opinions or hold any political beliefs. Well, that is so great of them. I wonder which state department class or UsAID class? They learned that one from telling you. Go back. It was last month. It was on the 29th of last month.

Look, for my Thursday night special, it was all about color revolution.

And I urge you to watch it because this, you understand this. It was like you remember when I first said, if you understand Woodrow Wilson, you'll understand the progressive movement, and you'll see what they're after, and everything will start to come in clear.

It's the same thing with color revolution.

And I think texty just proved that, at least gave me enough of a nudge to remind you, you should watch that special.

Why would. I mean, really, why.

Why would we be on that list?

Why would so many be on that list now? Some are just really anti, you know, Ukraine. I'm not, you know, they put. They put, what was it, ten people on the list that were congressmen and senators that were just calling for an accountant to be sent.

That's russian disinformation. You want an accountant to be. You know what that says to me?

If you have to make that person an enemy of your cause, you're doing something with the money that we should know about.

If you're just asking for. I just want accountability.

We'll send the money. I just want accountability.

If you call them an enemy, I think they're right. We should have accountants, you know? I mean, maybe it's just me and more disinformation. Stu, I.

Sorry. Exactly what I expected to throw you.

Yeah, I have to throw you under the bus. It wasn't me. It's on that list. It's, it's the blaze and you're part of it, the big part of it.

And your honor, I never said any of these. Color revolution. I don't even know what that is.

Stu
You forget that these shows are recorded, posted for people to listen to.

Glenn Beck
Color revolution is that when, like red and blue team up to make purple do what they want?

Stu
That's exactly what color revolutionary.

Glenn Beck
More in just a second.

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If you haven't become a member of the blaze yet. I urge you to do so. You get things like, for instance, return, which is a new magazine that is coming out, if you will, along with, I think it's called Frontier magazine.

They are really amazing. Return is all about tech.

And Peter Geitel is the blaze media managing editor for Return.

And he has been looking into the story that we were just telling you about this. Texty.org put a list together of people that, you know, I don't know, Peter. What, what do they even say their motivation is if it's not an enemies list?

Peter Gietl
They're trying to claim that, oh, this is just compiling information of people repeating russian disinformation or propaganda. But it's clear they're, they're conflating, you know, Russia today with Blaze and Tucker Carlson. Anyone else who has any sort of questions about the funding, including left wing organizations like Code pink.

Glenn Beck
So I've been talking about color revolution, and I don't know where you stand on that, but I really believe that that's what's happening in America. And the left and George Soros and everybody else are doing what they've done in country after country for the last 20 years.

They've just perfected it, and now they're doing it here to the United States to topple her and make her into a democracy instead of a republican public.

But it's interesting to me that the co founder is a guy who has deep ties to the State Department and to color revolutions by hosting a tech camp in one of those countries.

Am I far off base on that?

Peter Gietl
No, absolutely not, Glenn. I completely, completely agree with you on that. And I found this weekend originally that we had been placed on that list along with you and blaze media. But then last night, I was able to dig deeper and uncover some pretty interesting stuff about this organization.

First of all, is the txd.org, comma. They also go by data journalism agency.

It's the same board, same email, same address.

And through the data journalism agency, they're funded by the Global Investigative Journalism Network, which in turn is funded, has been given $2 million by the Open Society Soros foundation.

So they're directly tied in.

Glenn Beck
Right.

Peter Gietl
But there's more and more. So then once you dig deeper, they openly admit, again, this organization that has placed duly elected members of Congress, media members across America. This foreign organization is also funded by the Eurasia foundation, which is a United States government funding apparatus, including the transparency and accountability and public administration services, and the US Agency for International Development.

Glenn Beck
And those are USAID. And those are always. They're known by anybody who pays attention as CIA fronts.

Peter Gietl
Exactly.

Glenn Beck
This is, you know, the USAID comes into a country, they start doing things, and next thing you know, we've got a revolution on our hands. Because that's the CIA, correct?

Peter Gietl
Absolutely. Well, and they were also funded by the National Endowment for Democracy, which is absolutely 100% yes.

Glenn Beck
Also on that list of everybody who's participated in a color revolution.

This is crazy.

Peter Gietl
So all the usual suspects were here funding this organization, right?

Glenn Beck
There's a story out.

I don't have time to get to it today.

It's from the New York Post. It is fantastic how Henry Ford's fortune is being used to rip America apart. And they are also funders of this organization, are they not?

Peter Gietl
Yes, I believe so. But maybe indirectly they fund that global investigative journalism network, which then, in turn funds this. So, yeah, we'll be careful with it.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, yes, right. I get it. I get it. Same address, same board, but completely different. I got it. I got it. Right.

So what do you, what is the takeaway on this? What? You know, you can say what they say they're trying to do, but what is it they're actually trying to do? Who's going to read this list and say, oh, okay, just other media outlets?

Peter Gietl
I mean, it's infuriating as an American that they're doing this and putting this list together. I think what, but what concerns me and disturbs me is you've done a lot of great reporting over the years and recently on how these color revolutions operate, how they overthrow countries around the world.

But what's kind of disconcerting about this is concrete evidence that now those color revolution, NGO's Soros backed organizations are focusing their target internally on the american people, on congresspeople, on journalists, on people of good faith who are left wing, who hate war. It's a very dark turn, I think.

Glenn Beck
Let me switch the subjects because you are a tech guy. That's what return is all about.

What do you think about Apple's announcement yesterday?

Peter Gietl
We have an article coming out today on return. Going into it, it's disturbing to get in bed with OpenAI and the way that they're discussing and basically allow all of Apple's, all the information of anyone who uses Apple products to now be fed into the OpenAI network and software and then have AI in all of your devices in that way is to me, a little disturbing.

Glenn Beck
So we don't let OpenAI have access to the Internet now. Right. It was all, I think it has to be like two years old, the information or something like that. Is that accurate?

Peter Gietl
I think that something around that, yeah, I forget the exact time frame, but it's something around there.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, it's something like that.

What is the difference between now giving it access to everybody's phone?

I mean, doesn't that, I mean, it's.

Peter Gietl
A potentially, the AI could start accelerating a lot by having that up to date information.

I think it's also, Apple has always positioned itself as a defender of their customers data, and they're very vociferous in their defense about that. And now to partner with this organization, that is, there's been a lot of questions from Elon Musk and a lot of others about what OpenAI is up to and what their goals are and what their plans and to just invite it into your house, so to speak, into your computer.

Glenn Beck
But people will do it. Yes, people will do it, because it'll be, you know, this is, I think, the fulfillment of the.

A friend of mine who said that, I think he said it would come out at the end of last year, but here it is. He said, this is. We will have, everyone will have access to a digital secretary, a digital assistant that will be able to write letters back for you, remind you of who you have to write back, what you have to do, make reservations for you, et cetera, et cetera.

This is the beginning of that, is it not?

Peter Gietl
Yeah, which I think could be good. I guess it could answer your emails for you. But it's one more thing taking away your humanity. It's one more aspect of your life that you're handing over to a technology that we don't completely understand and we don't know where. It's still in its infancy of its power and its ability to influence human life.

Glenn Beck
Stu, you were trying to get Chech ept to do something this morning. We were talking about. What was that?

Stu
I was playing with it. We were talking earlier about a story in the New York Times today that discussed republicans efforts to get black voters to come and entertain their ideas. And there's one paragraph in there, which is incredible, honestly. It was like a litany of the supposedly racist things that Donald Trump had done throughout his life. And I guess, as evidence why black people shouldn't support. But it was. It was in a, you know, a news article and just presented as facts. And each one of the examples was listed as this known fact that he was a racist when none of them actually told the truth about the incidents. You know, it was stuff about, like, Charlottesville and. And how they've mischaracterized his comments from that stuff that we discussed before. But one of the examples was, in 1989, he replaced this ad that called for the execution of the Central park five, five black men who later on were discovered to not have done the crime. Now, when you go back, and I remember reading this at the time, if you go back and read the ad that he posted, it at no point calls for the death of the Central park five. He does. He says he wants the return of the death penalty to.

To be used on. On crimes like this, but does not say that they were guilty of the crime, even in this particular ad. And I was trying to recount that I was playing with chat GPT, and chat GPT would not print the text of the ad under any. No matter how many times I tried to make it do it. It kept just giving me summaries of the ad would not give me the actual text, and I couldn't tell if it was a copyright thing or what they were trying to do. And eventually I convinced it to actually print the text of the ad, but it would stop halfway through and say it violated its own terms of service.

This is a historical ad, again, words written by a guy who's president of the United States and is currently running like, this is information we should all be able to access.

And internally it's making some decision there. I don't know in this case if it's something nefarious, but that is part of this. People are going to be getting their information through these services, and these decisions are all made internally without us having any visibility, isn't that right?

Peter Gietl
Yeah, that's absolutely correct. I mean, there's definitely safeguards that they're putting on there to control narrative. I mean, another aspect that I've talked about I think is important of in some ways it's so woke because it's getting trained on all the online information that's been created in the last ten years, which by definition is just much more left wing and much more. So I think some of it is definitely on purpose, and some of it may just be most of the Internet from Reddit and Twitter and all these other places, that is just left wing online information, that it's taking all that and churning out what it is. But, I mean, there's a ton of examples of that we see. And this is another argument of why perhaps we shouldn't just allow OpenAI and a couple of these mega tech corporations to be the only ones that have access to AI. And there's a lot of fear mongering. And I think some of that comes from these companies of like, oh, it's so scary. It's gonna take over the world, only we're, only, we should be allowed to use it. Only OpenAI or, you know, Microsoft or Apple or Google or the government. Or the government.

Glenn Beck
I'm telling you, I think the government is going to be the possessor of real AI, AGI or ASI, and you're not going to get access to it. You know, when we have quantum computing, you think you're going to have access to the quantum computer? No, it'll be way too expensive and you just won't be able to do it. And only the elites will be able to do it. And the government, they. This falls into the hands of the wrong people, and I honestly can't think of the right people this should fall into the hands of because I don't trust anybody and nor should anyone else with, with a, you know, what will be called a life form that is this powerful and this dangerous. Peter, thank you so much for being on with us.

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Glenn Beck
It's a new day. I turn around.

Welcome to the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

I have a friend named Jamie Kilstein. He is a comedian and a podcaster.

He lives, unfortunately, in Austin, Texas, but that's where all the comedian podcasters are from, I think. Now, Jamie has appeared on the Joe Rogan experience three times, two of which were good. The other one we don't talk about anymore.

He has been on the BBC, Showtime, stand up on Conan. He was mentored by Robin Williams.

In 2009, Williams listed Jamie as one of his all time favorite comedians.

What an unbelievable experience that is. And he's gone from that to this program. So, you know, things haven't gone well for Jamie, but he joins us to talk about conversions. He's recently found Christ and is totally changed his life. And I don't know what it's like in Jamie's life, but I know that, you know, Russell Brand, people are like, yeah, but did he really change or is it just because he was in trouble? Well, I don't think people change if they're not in trouble myself. Kind of the point of prison, you know, in a way. But we'll talk to Jamie about this coming up in 60 seconds. Stand by.

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Hello, my friend, Jamie Kilsteen. How are you?

Jamie Kilstein
Hi, buddy.

That intro was very funny.

Glenn Beck
Well, it's sad, kind of, isn't it? Cause it's all true.

Jamie Kilstein
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
And you had. You've had such an incredible life. And I'm telling you, Jamie, your life is. Is only gonna get better.

But you just. It's hard at first.

Jamie Kilstein
It is.

Yeah. It was easier.

Kind of not.

It was easier not being Christian. Being Christian is hard, man.

It's so hard.

I was very happy just, like, blissfully torpedoing my life and angrily tweeting at you from Brooklyn back in the day. This is difficult. And then I go to my christian friends for, like, help, like, my famous pastor friends, and they'll always be like, yeah, well, look at the apostles. They were in jail and they died. And I was like, cool. That's awful.

I don't want that. I want a good. Was there any of apostle that, like, did? Okay.

It's not a good sell.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. I have the same thing. My pastor friends. And everybody comes up to me and they'll say, you know, you're. You're. You've been speaking prophecy on what's coming. And, you know, you find those people in the Bible. I'm like, don't ever say that to me. Those people were all killed. They all died.

Jamie Kilstein
Yeah, yeah. Jesus, the main guy, died.

Like, he came back, but he died.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess it would.

I guess it should be a little more obvious that Christianity is tough when that's the story and the selling point. Yeah, I mean, what's the been? Yeah, what's been the biggest struggle?

Jamie Kilstein
I mean, it's been all over the place. It. When. I mean, first of all, the week after I got baptized, I got the worst injury I've ever gotten. I've done jiu jitsu and MMA for 20 years, trained with UFC fighters.

Wasn't that volunteering at church, playing duck, duck, goose, and, like, had to show the oddly good looking guy volunteers who was in charge. And so my hips shattered. So I was out for a year, and I remember, oh, you're kidding me. Oh, yeah, dude. And I don't think I've told this story on a podcast, but I literally.

The worship band played at the end of the volunteer rally, and I'm standing there and they're playing some hallelujah song, and there's, like, tears in my eyes. And people must have been like, our new brother in Christ is, like, being moved by the Holy Spirit.

Like, my hip is broken. I don't have health insurance. I don't know what I'm gonna do. And so I, like, hobbled out of there, and then before I met my.

Glenn Beck
You didn't tell anybody? No, I didn't tell anybody that?

Jamie Kilstein
No. Because I literally felt like, I think I'm a level headed guy. I think I'm an intelligent guy. But when you become a Christian at 42 and you were never religious, it's like, I feel like I'm going through a lot of the struggles that other kids went through when they were like, I'm asking the same questions 13 year olds are asking when they're raised religious. Like, I'm going up to my pastor, and I'm like, am I not allowed to go on the Internet?

And it's because I'm just new. So I literally thought that I'm being punished and I'm not welcome here. Why else would I get injured at church? I thought I did the right thing. I mean, I got married in March and two days later lost all of my money. I wish it was through a housing scam so I could promote your guys sponsor, but, like, all gone.

And it's like, every time I thought that I was doing it God's way, something really bad would happen. And, look, you shouldn't go to Christianity. And I know we're gonna talk about this, but you shouldn't go to Christianity for a click. You shouldn't go to get things.

It's not like you become a Christian and you go, all right, Jesus, work your magic. Everything's gonna be good. But I think because I've struggled so much with depression and with not feeling like I fit in or always feeling like a screw up when this stuff happens, sort of post Christianity, I just go, oh, it's me. Like, not even Jesus can help. And I think that's probably where christians who struggle with mental health problems, that's probably where it can get worse, right? Like, you can look to Jesus to take your pain, anxiety, fear. Ask yourself, why is this happening? How can this better me as a person, etcetera?

But when it goes the other way, it's so dangerous where you go, oh, not even God likes me. You know what I mean?

Glenn Beck
So I have a friend. I did a podcast with him and his wife. They're an amazing couple. He suffers from depression, debilitating like nobody I've ever seen.

And he just can't do anything. He can't function.

And he's gone through all of that. Why me? God? And he's one of the most devout guys. Somehow or another, he's worked it out in his head.

But I just have to tell you, Jamie, my first four years, really tough. When you change as much as you have changed, it's tough. I mean, because you're still paying for the past, and you're still breaking all of these habits that were so ingrained in you is like, that's fine to do.

Jamie Kilstein
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
And it's hard.

Jamie Kilstein
And I feel them coming back. I mean, even the. The sort of, like, victim mentality stuff I used to do on the left on Twitter, I'm now doing that with, like, jesus, right? I'm like, why me? Blah, blah, blah. And I hear myself saying it, and I'm like, this isn't me. But that becomes an addiction. It becomes an addiction. I mean, depression can be an addiction where you're just used to people going, how are you bad? Here's who screwed me over. Here's why I'm in trouble. And then you get this little, like, dopamine rush. Cause that's just the path you are used to. And, you know, so people will say, well, give Jesus your fears or your anxiety, and he can handle it. And you go, he's busy. You know, you start to have imposter syndrome with Jesus, where you just go, he doesn't want to hear this. Like, my friends don't want to hear this anymore. Jesus doesn't need. Look what's happening in the Middle east. He doesn't need me being like, and I could use a paycheck.

Glenn Beck
I have to tell you, Jamie, one of the big things I had with Roger Ailes when I was at Fox was he said, you got to stop telling people to pray. And I said, okay, stop talking about God. Stop telling people to pray. Whoa. And he said, God is busy on wars and things. He doesn't need to hear everybody else's problems.

Jamie Kilstein
Wow.

Glenn Beck
I think that's not exactly the message of Christ, so I'm gonna disregard that.

Jamie Kilstein
But, yeah, man, I mean, how did you feel when you. Not to act like you're on my podcast, but the times you.

When things have gone wrong for me in the past, a lot of that could be traced to mistakes that I was making. Right? And not that I don't make mistakes every day, but. But when you started to course correct and when you went on this path and then you were getting hit with stuff, whether it was from your past or whatever, that I find is the hardest, because when you're screwing up and bad things happen, you go, yeah, this tracks. This is my fault. But when you were like, man, I am really crushing it. I'm volunteering. I'm the best husband I've been. I'm the best. You know, all these things, even the content I'm making, you know, it's still comedy, it's still filthy, but it's trying to help people, or it's about Jesus or whatever, and I go, I'm doing it, and I'm being rewarded. And then when you get the rug pulled out of you, that's what's triggered my spirals recently.

Glenn Beck
I have to tell you, this will come in time. You begin to trust in him so much that you begin to focus on. Wow, that wasn't helpful. I mean, Jamie. But right before we. We met, I was almost bankrupt.

I had lost almost everything because I had put all of my money into this, and it didn't look like it was going to work. And I knew that the Lord told me to go out on our own, start this network, et cetera, et cetera. And what I realized was two things. One, if it was an error in it, it was my judgment error on doing it the right way, doing it his way. The second thing is, is my wife said to me, you know, he never promised that this would go well or be easy, but that's good. But it will always lead us directly to where he wants us to be. So even if you lose everything, you. You gain over a period of time. And I know it sounds ridiculous now, but honestly, at our worst times, we know that everything will work out. I had a. One of my kids.

Wait, hang on just a second. Breaking news.

Stu
Yeah, sorry to interrupt, guys. Do we have a verdict in the Hunter Biden case? Just came out. Convicted on all counts, faces, 25 years in prison.

All counts convicted, 25 years in prison just came out just seconds ago. Go. So it's the interesting world we live in that you guys are.

Glenn Beck
Is a God.

Jamie, Hunter's coming to Jesus.

Jamie Kilstein
It is happening.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. He might find him now. He might find him now. Wow.

Anyway, so, Jamie, I wanted to talk to you. Let me take a quick break, and I wanted to talk to you about people. We just had Alex Jones on yesterday, and he said, you know, I'm a changed man, man.

And you know Russell brand, I'm a changed man. Me, I'm a changed man, you. I'm a changed man.

How?

It's, I've never expected people to believe me right away because I had lied for so long with my alcoholism. Sure, I knew it was going to be a long time, but it does get frustrating when you're like, no, I'm not that guy anymore.

Do you have any thoughts on like Russell Brand's conversion and, and what you look for in a person?

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Jamie Kilstein. Hey, so Jamie, what are your thoughts on that?

Jamie Kilstein
Yeah, so thank you for plugging the new shows, by the way.

I think that, I think the word grifter can be really, really insidious. I think it can be used against people who have legitimately changed their minds on an issue, oftentimes for the best.

Stu
Right?

Jamie Kilstein
So there are people laughing at Russell Brand, oh, he's a drug addict. Then this, it's like, yeah, isn't that good? What kind of monster are you that you would rather a celebrity kill himself with drugs then do something that is making him a good person? Whether you have, clearly you're projecting your church hurt and I'm sorry that happened, but like we should be rooting for people to become better people. We should be rooting for people to become more nuanced. Now, the problem is, I remember when I was an atheist, sometimes you'd see some politician or something and they'd cheat on their wife and do all these scummy things. And then a week after the scandal, suddenly they already have a book called my Affair with Christ or something. And you go, okay, this is, like, clearly written by, like, a pr person or something, right? And. But I think that for the most part, I know for me, I deal with imposter syndrome really, really badly. And when I started coming on shows like this, people were like, oh, he's doing the right wing grift. And I was like, fellas, if I knew how to grift, I would have more money than I do. Like, I wish I did.

And.

But I remember when I found Jesus, I was like, oh, my God. For the first time, I don't care what people say, because it is something inside me. I know that it is making me a better person. I don't need to defend Jesus. He's got it.

And so I think that when someone truly does find God, it doesn't need to turn into this sort of gossipy thing on the Internet. What I will say to christians, though, though, listening to this show, is that we should be rooting, like, if Jesus came back to look for apostles today, he's not taking no offense, like Joel Osteen or the pope or people who are already sort of established religious people. You know, when you look at.

Glenn Beck
He didn't do it last time.

Jamie Kilstein
No, he took tax collectors and he helped sex workers and, you know, all these people who were completely ostracized by the community.

Glenn Beck
Imagine. Imagine Paul killing all of the christians. Oh, he's killing the christians. And now what? He's a Christian.

Stu
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
I mean, that was a hard leap.

Jamie Kilstein
There was not even an equivalent, by the way, as a new christian, having Paul in your back pocket is the best. Anytime I feel like I screw up, I'm like, didn't kill christians. So.

But, like, you look at, I mean, some people could look at, you know, Kat Von d me, Russell, Brandon, the same year I didn't even know the Alex Jones thing. And go, oh, it's happening. The apocalypse happening. But also, I would so much rather go, oh, that's so good. You know, there's a reason.

One of the things that's really great about. So Alex is my wife, and we did our first episode of Trauma bonding this week, and we talk a lot about these faith struggles. I've been having. And one of the cool things about being independent, so that was inspiring hearing your story is we're doing the show independent. And what's cool about it is I don't have to speak as a christian influencer. I can legitimately, you know, I still curse, I still talk about my mistakes in the past. I still ask questions. I still go, I don't get that part of the Bible or I don't know about this thing. And while a lot of christians might look at that and think I'm doing a disservice, if our job is to make disciples and love our neighbors, then me being able to reach out to Russell Brand, being able to reach out to spiritual people, liberal people, gay people, you know, all these people that aren't going to be walking into a mega church or maybe have been ostracized or pushed away by the church, and we can bring that person to Jesus in a way that your best pastor who can quote theology like that could, that is a good thing and then let God handle it. I'm not saying I'm going to bring a bunch of people to Jesus as a comedian, right. But I can't open the door to people who would never trust religious institutions and then God will deal with, with the other stuff.

Glenn Beck
I'll tell you, Jamie, I think you and your wife, now Alex, who's shockingly not a man, would have, would have seen that, you know, all those conservatives were wrong.

Jamie Kilstein
Vegetarian doesn't mean. Whatever.

Glenn Beck
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To recap the breaking news, Hunter Biden, guilty on all counts in the gun case. Will have more on that coming up in a moment. Blaze tv.com Glenn.

Glenn Beck
Beck, welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Well, it's quite a day in Wilmington, Delaware. A federal jury has convicted depicted Hunter Biden of federal gun charges, historic first for the offspring of a sitting president.

His trial had his ex wife and his sister in law talking about his drug use. He faces up now to 25 years in prison. He has not been sentenced yet. So that's what he faces up to, 25 years for three charges, lying on a federal screening forum about his drug use. That is, I mean, that is, I think it even says on the form, is a federal crime of like, 25 years in prison. You don't lie when you're buying a gun. Don't do it then. Lying to a gun dealer and possessing the gun. Although first time nonviolent offenders typically get shorter sentences.

Stu
That's it.

Glenn Beck
They're going to give him his sentence here soon?

Stu
Yeah, about three weeks. They expect this to be three to four weeks. And now that sentence, uh, is, you know, one of those situations that, you know, depends on how long it is. You're right. First time violent, nonviolent offenders, usually the, the term isn't too, too long. Uh, if it's anything longer than, let's say, five or six months, you would assume, despite his denials, that Joe Biden will pardon him the second the election's over.

Glenn Beck
Oh, of course he is.

Stu
That your expectation?

Glenn Beck
Yes, of course he will.

Stu
Yeah. I can't, I can't imagine he wouldn't. He's been, you know, getting his kid in and out of trouble, trouble for the past 30 years.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. Why would he change his, you know, his parental habits?

Stu
Yeah. New York Times is reporting that Hunter Biden's team was feeling book, they say, bullish about a non guilty verdict before it was delivered. So this was a surprise.

Glenn Beck
Yeah.

Stu
One of the interesting reactions to this, Glenn, I love to get your take on this, is now the left saying, well, I guess we won't be seeing anything about a rigged jury system anymore today, will we?

Obviously referring to the Trump case when people were saying the, the system was rigged, although I don't know your take on that. Do you think the system was rigged against, with the Donald Trump?

Glenn Beck
No, first of all, no, first of all, I would have said the system was rigged when they came, when the Justice Department, Department, you know, colluded with the White House and, and came up with some bogus, you know, bogus plea deal that nobody in the world would have ever gotten. This is, now there's no sentence. It says up to 25 years. There's no sentence. So we don't know, you know, but it's, this is normal. This is the way it works. Usually just usually happens to people much, much faster than this. And when it, when Donald Trump, Trump was at trial, we weren't saying the system was corrupt. We were saying the system in New York City and Washington, DC is corrupt because just because of the voter base, you can't get a fair trial if you're Donald Trump. But that doesn't mean the whole thing is corrupt. You know, my point is, you have to play ball the way the people in power in New York want you to play ball. Ball. That's corrupt.

You know, I, yeah, I think generally we get it right.

Stu
I think often that happens. I still think we have the best, best system out there, even though there are massive problems with it. And specifically in this case, when it comes to Donald Trump. And that, like, I actually have legitimate hope that the system, the legal system gets the, the Trump verdict right eventually. Right. Like, I don't, I think there's a good chance it gets overturned on appeal. The problem with that, though, is that the timeline of this, the legal system and our political system are not, are not working together very well unless you happen to be a Democrat. And that, of course, is intentional.

But, you know, like, I do think that eventually the, the court system will probably suss this out.

And I'm not at all surprised that, you know, Hunter Biden is, is, is guilty in this case. It was pretty blatant. But, like, that is overlooking what you just brought up, Glenn, and that they tried to completely brush this under the rug. Like, the, I mean, the political system tried to get involved in this multiple times to make sure this didn't occur. They got caught. And so now we have a jury who actually does come to the right conclusion here. Obviously, he was guilty of this.

So.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, there's no, there's, you know, there were, they weren't saying, you can't bring up this person to prove that he was innocent.

This was his gun. That is his signature on the paper where he lied. Okay, that. That's a huge penalty. Then when his sister in law lover was found that, you know, found that his gun was in the glove box, she went and took it in a bag that had cocaine powder in it, threw it into a garbage can behind a supermarket. She should have been charged quite honestly as well, I think. But she took the gun and she threw it into a garbage can because she was afraid their kids might find it. Well, so you're going to let some other, somebody else's kids find the gun? What?

You know, there's no, not great.

No question that this is exactly what happen. And you didn't have to make up laws to say or, or skirt around whole, you know, sections of the law to get this. You're just enforcing the law. What's ironic about this is dad's such, the big anti gun, you know, throw the book at them forever if they've, you know, they've ever had a cap gun in their life.

And he's going to end up. I truly believe he's going to end up pardoning.

Stu
I think he will as well. Of course, you know, these penalties are for thee, not for me. And so all of these hardcore. I'm mister tough anti gun guy. This is the exact type of stuff that Joe Biden was pushing for larger penalties for these type of actions. Now, I think there is the best defense for Hunter Biden, which they didn't really get into in this particular trial. And it will come. It will probably come up on appeal, is a second Amendment defense. I don't know that it's a winning defense offense, but I think there is a good argument that the question itself is not properly represented in our histories.

Glenn Beck
And traditions as whether you're an alcoholic or a drug addict and you can't have a gun if you are, right?

Stu
Like, you know, if you go back and look at the early machinations of that, of that there's very much in our histories and traditions. Like, for example, you go into a bar, they take your gun as you go into a bar, they give it back to you when you leave. Right. Like that type of stuff was, you know, common going back to the, you know, the. When guns first were being carried but typically, it wasn't. It's not one of those things where they would do the same thing. If you were an alcoholic, you'd never get a gun even when you were sober. Right. And so the.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, I think you could make a really strong case for that. Yeah. And saying that, you know, I'm a, I'm a recovering alcoholic. Should I own a gun?

You know? Right. It's the, it's the practicing. Are you using drugs? Drugs? Are you using alcohol?

We could argue about that. And there, there might be a case to do it.

However, the left would not be for that. The left would be for all alcoholics, no matter in recovery or not, shouldn't.

Stu
Own a gun and all teetotallers as well.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, but, but that's, that is not what this case is built on. This case is built on you. Lies on this federal form. You cannot lie. Everybody knows that.

Everybody knows that.

Stu
And it's true. And it's one of those things that I find this case to be the least interesting part of the hunter Biden saga in that this is, it might not even be a constitutional question. Like, I don't think there's. He didn't shoot anybody. Like, there's a lot. I mean, he should, should have. He should be. This. The law should apply to him like they apply to everyone else, but, like, to. Much more interesting more is the tax stuff, the financial stuff, and the stuff that ties into international business dealings that seemingly involve many of his family members, including maybe his dad. I mean, certainly his dad, in my view. But legally, we don't have that proved yet. But can I ask you one other question? This came up while you were gone, Glenn, and I've been meaning to ask you about this every second since we talked about the story.

Glenn Beck
I've never had sex with Hunter Biden.

Stu
Okay. Cleared it up. No, this is a story that came out, and I was, Pat and I talked about it last week, and we both said on the air, the only person that we know that could possibly answer this question is Glenn Beck. The story is from the New York Times, and it's painted as this, like, sob story about how we're so mean to Hunter Biden.

Glenn Beck
Right.

Stu
Like, that's the tone of the story. The headline is Hunter Biden's paintings, not quite the refuge he sought. The president's son started selling his artwork years ago, drawing potential ethics concerns that we're discussing congressional testimony this year, and it goes through a very long, you know, feature about his incredible painting, but it gets into details on the finances that I have never seen before. And if you remember, they were talking about these paintings going for $500,000 a pop.

Glenn Beck
Correct.

Stu
In testimony that came out, they found that actually the most money he made was 85,000 for any of these paintings. Okay. Which they. They hilariously say is not common for a novice painter.

Really. It's not common for a novice painter to make 500 or $85,000 for a painting.

Glenn Beck
Right.

Stu
But they go through. So the details here year. Right.

Glenn Beck
All right.

Stu
And they say, all in all, the gallery sold about $1.5 million worth of his art. Okay.

Just thrown in there with no crinkled eyebrows at all from the New York Times is Mister Biden's earnings proved more modest than the early hype had suggested. He reported $130,984 in gross income from art sales during the first two taxes years that he was represented by the gallery. They just go on as if that's nothing. But is this the normal arrangement? $1.5 million in art sales only nets 130,000 to the artist. He's getting 8% of the sales. Is that even possible?

Glenn Beck
No.

If you are. If you are bringing something to the table, which he is, he's bringing fame. He's bringing, people will come to the art show just to see him.

You can negotiate for a better rate.

Because I was a new artist.

I negotiated with my gallery.

50%. They take 50. I take 50 because they're doing work, I'm doing work, whatever.

And if you're a new artist, you would do that. That he's a new artist. And this guy is bringing in a lot to the table. Hunter is. He's bringing not only the art, but he's bringing. I'm the president's son, and I'm in the newspaper all the time. So people are coming into this guy's gallery.

However, you know, it might be shady.

You know, you're.

I don't, you know, I don't know if this was somebody who knew Hunter gal, Hunter Biden, who he did and knew that he was on the up and up and everything else, he should not get 8%. It would be more likely that he would get 45, 55%.

Stu
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
Like, I could see somewhere in that.

Stu
Area you getting a really good deal with a gallery because you also are bringing, like, you know, some level of notoriety. Right. And you're not just like.

Glenn Beck
Right.

Stu
But like. And he would have a similar.

Glenn Beck
But I didn't want it.

Stu
Even if he got half of what you got, it would be much, much more than. Than what's reported here in the New York Times.

Glenn Beck
No, this is, this is, that's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. 8% is ridiculous. He obviously, if that's the real deal, he obviously made it while smoking crack.

I mean, honestly, that's ridiculous.

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So I'm, I'm just trying to figure out how is the left going to deal with this hunter Biden story when they are always screaming for more time in jail for people that do things like this, how is that going to work? Work?

Because I could say to you, honestly, I'm just looking up the federal form because I thought it had the actual penalty on there for perjury.

They seem to be state now, the FBI background check, every time I've ever seen it, I think it says something about, you know, not lying. I acknowledge that this is blah, blah, blah, super serious, um, super, super serious. Um, and, and this is the kind of thing that, you know, they say we need more background checks, stronger background checks.

How are they going to defend this?

Stu
Um, they will utilize any argument in front of them that benefits them at that moment as evidenced by their hardcore passionate libertarian libertarianism when it comes to health care and abortion.

Right. Like they find, they, they tell you they're going to start a new system they're going to tell you what coverage you have to do do. They're going to mandate you get the vaccine. They're going to make sure you wear masks. But they really, really super duper, only want you and your healthcare to be between you and your doctor. Like it's so obviously false. They don't have any credibility at all. But they will say whatever they need to at that moment.

Glenn Beck
I guess it's worked for them for a long time. They're in charge of the country.

Stu
Let me, let me give you this one and tell me if you agree this. Orin McIntyre, of course, of blood tv, he says, my instinct here is that this serves the hunter Biden situation, serves as a prelude to jailing Trump.

In other words, you know, they convict him here to show how credible the legal system is. And that gives them cover for when they say Trump is going to jail again.

Glenn Beck
Apples and eggs. Well, yeah, reality one comes out of the butt of a chicken. They're not the same. They're not the same.

Stu
But will they use this to get those?

Glenn Beck
Of course.

Will they use it? What did you just tell me? Well, I'm asking you, the Glenn Beck program.

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