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Welcome to the fusion of entertainment, entertainment, entertainment and enlightenment.

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With Pat and stew. For Glenn, we've got a president who's just making us proud in Europe right now. He's just doing such a great job.

We have some lingering videos to share and some audio from his adventures in Europe. He's really good. It's really good. You're gonna burst with pride. We'll get to.

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It's Pride month.

That's why we're bursting with pride.

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Exactly right. We'll get to that and much more in 60 seconds.

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We talked little bit about this. I don't think we had the video at the time, but we talked about him sort of sitting in a pretend chair or whatever, what kind of bending down, squatting down like he was, I don't know, maybe pooping his pants.

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It was a number two incident. Yeah, that was at least the, that was what people were.

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Some speculation. Speculation that, yes, maybe, maybe like Al Roker once did at the White House, maybe the president of the United States at this D day commemoration actually pooped his pants.

But here, here is the actual video. Of what happened, what transpired.

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And he's standing there.

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Looks at, starts to distinguish guests.

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Please welcome.

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What are you doing?

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The honorable Lloyd J. Austin III, Secretary.

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Of defense of the United States.

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Oh, he does sit down, though.

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He does actually sit. All right. He just wanted to sit down.

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I mean, everyone was cutting off a little premature. He was.

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Yeah. Eddie stops in the middle of it and eventually does sit down again.

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We'll do all the fact checking the media won't do. There was a lot of talk about him pooping his pants. I mean, he may have also done that. I can't deny it.

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But he was just, but he was.

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Just trying to sit down early.

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Sitting in slow motion there.

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Yeah. Sitting in slow motion and sitting down before everyone else nearby. So if you cut the clip off, which is what everyone did online.

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Yeah. It looks like.

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It looks like he's just kind of sitting in an invisible chair and then stands back up. But actually, he is just sitting down.

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Yes.

Now, if you watch this again carefully, if you're able to see this on Blaze TV, as he's sitting down, jill kind of puts her hand over her mouth, and I think she's saying, don't sit down yet. I think she gets so disgusted with him. Look at right there. She covers. And I think she's saying something to him like, yep, doctor, just wait a minute.

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Or she just had a real itchy upper lip for about 2 seconds there.

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Yeah. She's just disgusted with him. I can't, I don't know.

I can't believe that she's on board to keep pushing him forward in this. She must love the power position so much.

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Yeah, I kind of think she does love it. I'm not, because it's not good for.

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Him to be doing this. You know, if you really love the guy, if you really care about the guy, you're like, you can't get out. You can't. You can't do this. Just let Kamala take. So take over or Gavin Newsome or whatever. We're gonna. We're gonna go back to Delaware. Wouldn't you if, I mean, if you care, first of all, about your husband, but if you care about the nation and you see what's going on with him, I don't know how you could do anything but encourage him to drop.

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Out, and I don't know that that would work. I don't know that she would be able to step in and make him leave. I mean, he's the president of the United States, and that's the one thing that is the one reason why at this point I am, I would say, a favorite to win my bets against Glenn Beck, Jason Bottrell, others who claimed that he was going to drop out and Michelle Obama was going to become the nominee. The reason why I was confident on that and I could still be wrong, but the reason why I was confident on it is because he still has to make the decision and he's still the president of the United States.

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Egomaniac. And he thinks he can do it.

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And, like, the main reason to, the main way you could force him out is people in his family, people around him, talking to him and convincing him of that. I don't think that's possible. The guy's wanted this gig his entire life. I think the only way you could do it is with leverage, you know, house of cards style. Right. Like you are. You have something against him, and it's going to be in the papers the next day if you don't leave now. There's plenty of stuff in Joe Biden's, you know, plenty of skeletons in the closet that could be utilized in this manner.

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Yeah.

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But he also knew that when he decided to run and despite the fact he knew what would happen to his son. Right. Like, he knew all this would come out.

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Did it anyway.

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He did it anyway because he wants this so badly.

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Yep.

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He's always wanted this. He's always believed he's the best guy for it. Everyone has told him his entire life he's a joke and he's proving everybody wrong.

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He believes himself to be brilliant and witty and charming and funny. He's none of those things.

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He's never been on the side of those intellectuals circles.

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Yeah, he loves him.

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He's always been kind of a foot soldier. He's always been sort of demeaned as a guy.

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Treated him that way.

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Yep. Barack treated him that way. He was a joke in every primary he ran in until he ran into one, that he only faced an out socialist during a pandemic.

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Mm hmm. Mm hmm.

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Every, every other part of his career has been kind of an embarrassment. Right. Like, he's been able to, he won early in Delaware and then held onto a seat he never could possibly lose in a state he couldn't possibly lose in.

And he kind of just hung around and was kind of a joke. And now he's the president of the United States and you're telling me he just going to leave? Like, I don't know, I'm a high. I'm a big skeptic on that one.

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So you've got a. You got the $3,000 bet with Glenn. Right on big Mike. Um, and. And also. But.

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Yeah, but on that, I have a list right here of Michelle Obama heads. Now, not all of them I have wagers with, but these are people who've come on the air or have, and.

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Believe, as Glenn does, that big Mike is going to run.

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That big Mike is going to be the nominee.

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Okay.

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We have Glenn Beck, Jason Buttrell, Steven Moore.

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Wow.

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Really? Yes.

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Huh.

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Dan Andros.

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Oh, my gosh.

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Bill O'Reilly.

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These people should know better.

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I can see. I don't think it's crazy. I could see the path.

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It's only crazy because she hates the country too much to do it.

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Yeah, but, I mean, what better way to show, I know you could finish.

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Us off with one four year term. You could finish the job. But I think she likes her current lifestyle way too much. And I think that, you know, finally, she's enjoying the kind of life that she believes she's always deserved. And, you know, they got the hundred million dollar deal from Netflix or whatever. They've. They've got deals all over the place for stuff they're not even doing.

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Yeah.

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For things that haven't even happened, and people just keep throwing money at them. And she loves it. What? They have three houses all over the world. Hawaii, Washington, DC, Chicago. They've got. I mean, they got a nice lifestyle going. And I don't. I don't believe she would jeopardize that.

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And they're largely past the political divisions that would make her life miserable.

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Right.

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Like, I mean, you know, time heals a lot of wounds. You know, remember, you're in 2006.

Anywhere George W. Bush goes, people are throwing shoes at him. Right? Like, even now, George W. Bush can go around and go to baseball games. Like, you know, and he's fine. He's fine. Yeah, he's fine.

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And it's plenty fine for them.

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It's a different world. And Obama especially, like, was already a quote unquote, superstar when he was in there. Michelle is now.

I mean, she gets to do whatever she wants. Multimillion dollar Netflix deals. She's making tv shows.

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And I'm grateful for it because she would finish us. She'd finish us off.

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Money well spent.

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Disaster.

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You know, people talk about Netflix being liberal. Of course they are. But, like, they're doing an american service. Here they are. By spending money to the Obama. Giving money to the Obamas, you know, to keep that down. Cause I would worry about it if she were the nominee.

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She'd win. She totally, I really believe the win.

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She'd certainly be the favorite. I don't know how she would handle a campaign. I mean, when she's, she's campaigned, when she was really out there doing her thing, they took her off the campaign trail. Cause she was doing such a bad job. But that was early, and she said.

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It was obvious how much she loathed this country. They had to take her off the campaign trail.

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Right. Now, she obviously ran a second campaign. Everything, I mean, not everything was fine. Fine, but it was, it wasn't nearly as bad. She learned, I think, over time, what she could get away with. Not, not everyone has never been proud of their country and their adult lives.

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Right.

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She learns that eventually.

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Oh, my gosh.

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So I don't think these are, I don't think the Michelle Obama theory is a wild theory, especially if something happened late. Right. Like, if you were, if it was a situation.

I don't know. It's hard to understand how Kamala wouldn't get it. And I know people are like, how can they possibly.

It's, it's Kamala's. Unless it was a performance issue that removed them. Now, of course, we could all say, hey, this has been a performance issue. I don't know. Everyone's noticed this. It's gone very poorly.

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Yeah.

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You're at 37, 38%. I don't think you're getting that. Did we talk about this, Pat? What? What? The number is where they just pull him from the ticket for approval rating.

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I don't think we did.

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I.

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What do you think that number is?

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I think it's 29%.

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29.

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That's what I came up with.

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If he starts getting 36. Last I heard, 36.

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37. 38 is, is light years away from 29% because what that means is you're essentially losing a quarter of your base.

It can happen. I mean, George W. Bush at the end of his term was right around there. 29%. Ooh, around a second.

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Was it that bad?

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Yeah. Because, you know, you're, you're in the financial crisis. Right? He leaves.

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Oh, yeah.

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You're in October, October, November, if I remember right. He was in the, he had a couple polls in the high twenties. You have that going for reelection. I think they might just pull the speaker one.

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Only Nixon has been there before. Right?

Has anybody been that low besides Richard Nixon?

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I don't know. I have to let you know what. I can look that up. I can get that for you here in a minute. But it is one of those situations where you look at the performance here, and you could say his presidency has been bad enough to justify him being removed.

But if you're going to remove him for health reasons, you can go, you're going to go to Kamala. You have to go to Kamala. I think if you remove him for health reasons, if his excuses, I got to be with my son, Hunter.

I've got to leave because of my, I've got one of the 45 things you see go wrong with me every day is acting up, whatever the health reason. God forbid something terrible happens to him, um, you'd have a situation where there you'd have to go to Kamala. If you go to performance and say, oh, my gosh, 29% approval rating, we're just pulling them off the ticket. And at that point, you could make the argument, Kamala's been so bad, we're going to another person of color, which you'd have to do on the democratic side. It would have to be another woman of color, and Michelle Obama's the only one probably who can step in in that scenario. So I don't think it's a wild theory, but, like, the fact that I got even odds with Glenn on it was a freaking miracle. It was not. It was never even odds. Now, luckily, Glenn doesn't gamble, so has no idea what any of this means.

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Yeah.

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So, like, I would have given him probably five to one on it. But, you know, Glenn doesn't know what he is.

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He didn't need to.

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I didn't need to. I didn't need to because Glenn doesn't understand these things.

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You're about to be a richer person. I really believe that.

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There's a good chance of it.

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Yeah, there's a good chance. Very, very good chance. More coming up in 1 minute.

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All right, so the cadaver in chief was asked some questions yesterday, and one of them was about Vladimir Putin.

Here's what he had to say there.

Let me ask you about what Vladimir Putin said last night about this authorization of american weapons inside Russia.

He said the supply of high precision weapons to Ukraine for strikes on russian territory is direct participation in this war.

He went on to say that this is the way to serious problems and again talked about Russia's nuclear capabilities.

Does that concern you?

I've known him for over 40 years.

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Oh, good.

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He's concerned me for 40 years. He's not a decent man. He's a dictator, and neither are you. He's struggling to make sure he holds this country together while still keeping this assault going. We're not talking about giving them weapons to strike Moscow, to strike the Kremlin, to strike just across the border where they're receiving significant fire from conventional weapons used by the Russians to go into Ukraine to kill Ukrainians.

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It's like someone said, hey, I dare you to just take one breath and do the whole interview, just exhaling the entire time.

It's like you can't even understand the guy. I know, and I really can't understand what we're doing with this situation in Russia. Not at all.

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It's exactly what he said we wouldn't do. And he's doing it anyway.

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Crosses his own red lines over and.

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Over and over again because he's single time.

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And I. You have to let me ask you this, Pat.

Other than an all out attack by the United States troops on Moscow, if you wanted to start world war three, what would you change about the approach that we are currently engaged in?

What other.

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You mean now that we're sending them.

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Long range weaponry other than us directly attacking them?

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F 16.

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Yeah.

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I wouldn't change anything.

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Yeah. It's a great path.

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Change anything? It's.

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It's a great path on the way. World War three.

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Yes.

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Right. Like I am. I don't know. Maybe I misread the, you know, the audience at times when it comes to conservatives, but like, I feel like when I, when we talk about Ukraine, I feel like I'm probably more sympathetic to the ukrainian cause here than many in the audience.

I feel like they got attacked out of nowhere. It's, it's b's. They should have their right to, to defend themselves.

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Sure.

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However, we don't have to do it. That is the problem.

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Right.

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Right. Like, I don't have any issue at all. And I feel like if I have to look at who's right, who's right and who's wrong in this back and forth, I think Ukraine has the much better argument here. Yeah, I understand. Russia has, has concerns and they've, they've express them as far as NATO and we have some issues there, the way we handled that. But at the end of the day, they're sitting there. They, it's russian tanks coming across the border.

They are the ones who were attacked. If I were a talk show host in Ukraine, I would be arguing constantly that, no, we're not giving them Crimea. No, we're not giving them, you know, the donbas. Re. No, we're not doing any of that. We're gonna fight till the death. I'm sure. That's what I would think.

However, why, if, even if we decided, hey, we got to give them weapons, even if we decided, hey, we want to give them weapons to strike within russian territory, why do I know about it?

Why do I, some moron who lives in Texas, have any idea that we are allowing them to fire our missiles into russian territory? We should be in a constant state of denial over that. Even if we were doing it when they, when the Russians say, this is a, oh, we just found the shrapnel of an american missile within our borders, we should be saying, I don't know what you're talking about.

We don't even make missiles.

We, we don't even know where the borders are. But we lost access to maps. Have you ever seen South Carolina teen in 2013?

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And Biden. We don't have maps legitimately. He doesn't know where it is.

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Everyone would believe him.

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Yep.

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Everyone would believe he should just be like, I was watching Matlock. I don't even know what's going on over there. That is the appropriate answer. The fact that this guy is doing interviews, incredible. About how we're letting our weapons, we're approving our weapons to be fired into russian territory is freaking insane.

He's just, Vladimir Putin doesn't need our encouragement to escalate wars. But the fact that we continue to give it to him, give him justification to his own people, and we've done.

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That every step of the way.

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How do you get them to back down? He legitimately can go to his people and say, the american military is allowing their weapons to be fired at you right now. Of course, he's exaggerated.

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We are already at war with America because of that.

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Yes. Also, we, we would consider every promise.

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We made to him. I mean, I am not in favor of Vladimir Putin and the Russians. I want Ukraine to win this war. But we told them in the beginning, we promised, hey, Ukraine is not a possibility for NATO. We're not going to do that. They're not coming into NATO. So what have we done since we invited them into NATO?

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It's incredible.

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It is incredible. It is incredible.

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And I don't know, if it was Ronald Reagan, 1984, maybe I'd feel a little more confident for sure, this approach, because at least I'd know he was doing the, he had the competence level to try to handle something like this, which is very difficult to do. Very few presidents would be able to handle this. And you have this guy doing it. Look how well it's going so far, right?

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I mean, you can't even sit down in a chair properly. Saw that yesterday.

More coming up.

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We were just talking about the approval rating of Joe Biden, which two months ago was. Was it 38%?

Last month it was 36. Did it just go down to 34 in one of the polls? I mean, it's.

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Didn't see a 34, but it's not. I mean, it's right in the margin of error.

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Yeah.

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Again, I'm not talking about one poll at 29%. They pull them. I think it's like a. That is consistent, right? Yeah. So current Joe Biden approval rating average, 37.6%. That's current.

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That's the average.

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A terrible number. And basically, as low as it's been, in fact, I think it is the lowest it's been. It was right around 38 at the.

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For the average peak.

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Right at the average. For the peak. At the peak of the inflation, when it was really, you know, 9.7%, which is, by the way, where it started for him. Yeah, that's what I heard about his administration. It's weird that it shows that it's, like, 18 months into his presidential term.

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But that is weird.

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That is. Must be an error in the graph.

37.6% for Biden. So, historically, how does this measure up against presidents at this time?

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Really well. Right? Really well. Is he the highest?

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Let's go back to 1945. Harry Truman. Okay, here we go. Harry Truman. This is this one. It starts off looking pretty good for Joe. Harry Truman, only 38.9% approval rating at this point in the season.

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Better than Joe's, though.

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Still better than Joe's. And it got a lot better.

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Wow.

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Later on, in fact, later on a term, he hit almost 70%. So this was a very true low point for Truman. Yeah. Okay. Eisenhower, let's see.

It was 70.5% at this point, a little higher than Joe's. 38.

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Just a tad.

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Yeah. Now, JFK technically was at zero because he was dead at this point in his presidency. So, I mean, I. I don't know if you give that one to Joe Biden. No, I mean, I guess. I mean, it's actually his approval rating was much higher than that, but I don't really count it because he was no longer alive. So Lyndon B. Johnson, 45.7%.

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So about incredible.

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Eight points better than Joe Biden. Richard Nixon, 59.1%. Obviously, way ahead. And this is before Watergate. This is first term. So if you want to look at where Nixon got after all of this.

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Think he got down to 24, didn't he?

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Yeah, about 24% was his low. Good memory, Pat. That's. Yeah, that's about 24% was as low right. As he was about to resign.

Now, he once Watergate kind of kicked in. I mean, he was close to 70% as he. Towards the end of his first term. And that turned down for Watergate and then hovered around 30 for a while and eventually dropped into the mid twenties. So obviously that was suboptimal. If you happen to be Richard Nixon, didn't go great.

You've got Gerald Ford was about 40%, Jimmy Carter. Another close call here for Joseph Robinette Biden. He was on a downfall here. Remember, he loses this election, of course, but Carter is still ahead of Biden by two points.

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Wow.

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39.8% at this point in his presidency.

Then you go over to Ronald Reagan, of course, no surprise here. Reagan's at 55.2% and climbing. At this point in his presidency, George HW Bush is at 40%. Now, remember, this is Bush off of the peaks of, in the eighties, 82% approval. When the Iraq war happens, the minor, minor recession that kicks in at the very end of his presidency somehow is such a big deal that he tanks after this. And at some point soon, likely, Biden will be ahead of where Bush was. George Hw Bush. I remind you, George HW Bush was not reelected.

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Right.

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So this is not a position you want to be competing with. He is still currently behind George HW Bush, who had a 40% approval rating. Bill Clinton was at 53.4%.

In a good streak.

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Pre all the scandals.

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This is pre scandal, this is pre Lewinsky.

And you're at the point where the economy.

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Jennifer Flowers maybe had that.

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Oh, yeah, he had scandals.

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Yeah, it was before Lewinsky.

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It was before Lewinsky, before it was really serious, before impeachment and all of that.

This is coming off of the recession that got in the presidency from in the George Hw Bush term. And the recovery had happened. The Internet boom was going on. Like, this was a good time for Clinton. He's at 53.4 and rising at that point. George W. Bush has gone past 911 where he was at, you know, 86, 87% approval.

The Iraq war kind of kicks off.

He rises back up to about 69% as that kicks off, and he's on a long, very long downfall that goes down. But again, he does get reelected.

George W. Bush is at 44.5% at this point in his presidency. Barack Obama does get reelected. He's at 47.7% right now. Now, again, Obama had people forget this because they think, oh, remember, he was a celebrity, and he had all these big speeches, and everyone was ever.

He was not very popular as a president. His approval rings were pretty bad, pretty middling, I would say, throughout.

He really did not have a very good approval rating for most of his presidency. And you compare it with people like George W. Bush. I mean, Obama did not do well in those comparisons.

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The problem there was Republicans, the republican choices that we had to pit against Obama, John McCain and Mitt Romney. Well, no wonder he won.

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Yep. Uh, two terms, and he won narrowly that second one. But he did win. And his approval rating by the time election. The election happened was about 50%. So that is a line we see often here. If you're above 43, 44% approval rating, your chances of being reelected are pretty good. You know, people like incumbents. They don't like incumbents, but the incumbent advantage is real. That's something that is real. And by the way, Donald Trump, who, again, is obviously, as the media would tell you, is the least popular man of all time. He was at 42.2% right now, five.

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Points ahead of where Biden is right now.

A
Yeah, let me revise that 41%. So about three and a half points ahead, speaker one.

B
Okay.

A
But still, again, Trump did not get reelected.

B
Right?

A
So you look at this, and you would say, this is, you're not in a good position at all if you're Joe Biden. He's behind.

I don't know if anyone followed this. Every single one of these presidents, all of them, he's behind all of them.

B
But just. He will likely, he's not ahead of people who didn't run or were or were never elected president.

A
And to be fair, JFK, you can make the argument he's ahead of JFK.

B
You could make that, because again, as we.

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At least the information we know right now, his heart is still beating.

B
Uh, right, okay.

A
So we. I think he. He'll be at. By the end of now. He probably, at some point here in the next few months will pass. George Hw Bush, who dropped to, like, 30% at one point before rising towards the end of his term. Uh, and he may pass. Jimmy Carter, who was down, who did hit down to like, you know, 32% by the end of his turn.

B
When did the John thing happen? Was that. And, you know, and started getting discussed because he did raise taxes after he said the read my lips. And that was.

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Yeah, when was the tax increase?

B
Speaker one, when did that happen?

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Good point.

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I mean, he must have see why he would go down to 30%.

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Can you imagine how, how unbeatable he must have felt when he was at.

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90% or something in some polls?

A
GeOrge HW Bush was at 82.2% on the average two years in. So he's after he, I mean, that is like, he must have thought he was unbeatable, beatable at that point. And then he winds up within the next year and a half dropping to 30% approval rating.

B
It's incredible.

A
It's hard to imagine that stuff happening today because people are so in their lanes, right. They, they don't leave a lot of, you know, there's a lot more of switching back in the day. That's why a lot of these approval ratings. You could argue if you want to defend a Barack Obama or a Donald Trump, that, like, people are so in their silos on these people, you're never going to get 60, 70, 80% approval ratings anymore outside of maybe a war or, you know, something like that.

You just don't get those anymore. I think maybe George W. Bush was the last one at 911, and that was because it was such a specific thing that happened. Like, I don't know.

B
And it didn't last.

A
It didn't last, right. I mean, he was at 80, 80, let's see, 85, 86%.

When 911 happens, one year later, he's at 57.

So it drops, I mean, loses about 30 points. And then the Iraq war happens. It pops back up to about 68.

B
69 because Americans band together. Band together when we're fighting wars.

A
And of course, we, you know, it's forgotten now, but massive bipartisan support for that war.

B
Yeah.

A
It was not a, it was not a controversial vote. People like Hillary Clinton were voting for it.

He drops down to around election time. He's in the mid, you know, mid forties and kind of hovers there until his second term. I mean, you go, you go to his second term, he drops down. His average approval rating right before he leaves office is like 24% W. George W. Bush because it's the 2008 crisis.

B
Well, yeah, the crisis border situation.

That was, that was part of the prosecution of the border agents. I mean, there was a lot going on there that, uh, well, that I didn't like.

A
Right. And that's what's interesting, Pat, is these types of disasters with approval rating only occur when you lose your own side. It's not about, like, generally bad vibes. It's about losing everything.

You know, Nixon was an example of this, though. He still, and so did George W. Bush, maintain 60, 70% of republican support. You start seeing numbers like 50 and 60% among Republicans or in this case, among Democrats. That's the time you see a party maybe making a move before an election, a desperation Hail Mary type move. And then that move, maybe you move to someone else other than Kamala, to Michelle Obama or something.

B
Times running out, though.

A
Yeah. It's got to be. It would be crazy. It's possible. Anything's possible.

B
But it's just not like, I mean.

A
We'Re with four years away from, you know, the country shutting down.

Anything's possible.

I think at this point you can't rule stuff out. But unlikely, you know, unlikely. And the guy wants it. You know, it's not, he's not a guy who's, he's not a, he's not a person who's sitting there going, oh, I don't know. I don't really want this responsibility.

I like the pressures of the White House. That's all.

B
B's.

A
Biden wants every bit of that. He thinks he's amazing. He thinks you don't understand how amazing he is.

That's his view of the situation.

B
I don't understand how amazing he is.

A
And you seem to refuse to try.

B
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The Glenn Beck program.

A
We'll be right back, Pat. And stew in for Glenn here on the Glenn Beck program. And I ask you, Pat Gray, you are the fantasy general manager of the Democratic Party right now. Okay? All right. You're making all decisions. You are dictatorship.

You, your goal is the Democrats to win this election. This is a little bit hard to put yourself in this position, but I want you to think as a Democrat here. Okay? I come into you, I got Pat, Pat, we have a, we have an opportunity. We got to make a decision right this second.

We just got word from Joe Biden.

He is willing to step down from the nomination, fake a health issue, say he wants to take care of his son. Whatever B's he comes up with, he's willing to step down under one scenario and one scenario only. Michelle Obama's not in. We got nothing else to go to here. You could make a switch right this second for Kamala Harris. She can be the nominee. Joe Biden steps down.

She could be the nominee.

Do you pull the trigger on that decision?

Let me, and let me give you one other piece of evidence here.

They both have the same set of policies attached to them.

B
Right.

A
They've been in the same administration.

B
Yeah.

A
What is the biggest weakness, though, when you talk, talk about Joe Biden. We just talked about him maybe pooping on stage for the past hour. Okay.

B
Yeah. All right.

A
His biggest weakness to voters, despite all of his terrible policies, is his age.

B
Right.

A
You would eliminate that problem completely. Yes. You'd have the word salad problem, but you're not getting any better than that with Joe Biden anyway.

B
No, that's for sure.

A
And you'd have a candidate in what, her fifties?

B
Yeah.

A
And now all of a sudden, Donald Trump's the one that's approaching 80.

B
You've got identity politics going for you. You've got a person who can imagine what will be unburdened by what has been right. And you hear. That's a lot. You're going to hear it every day.

A
You're going to hear that a lot. Four years and.

And you'll hear incredible information about school buses.

B
Right.

A
Right. I mean, there's a lot of upside here.

B
And who doesn't love a yellow school bus?

A
I mean, they're incredible.

Now, you could listen to that and be like, God, how could you put her at the top of your ticket? And I understand that. But all of these.

B
Now, if I say no, does Joe stay?

A
Joe stays. That's your only other option. Joe stays or Kamala is your nominee. You switched out right now.

B
So just who has a better chance to win? Yeah, right, man. And Gavin Newsom's not an option.

A
Not Gavin Newsom's not an option. Joe will only step down because he loves Kamala so much.

B
He wants Richard Gephardt. Is Richard Gephardt an option?

A
You could put him as the VP. You could put Dick Gephardt as the VP if you want to.

B
Okay. Under those circumstances, Kamala running for president, Richard Gephardt, VP. Yeah, I'm in. Yes. I make the switch.

A
I think I do. I think if I do, if I really am in the situation, I think I'd make that switch. Because you would lose the age thing. You gain other problems. But they're all problems that Biden has, right? Like, yeah, she can't talk. He can't talk. She'd be able to walk across the stage, though.

B
Yeah.

A
You know, she wouldn't fall asleep during the debate.

B
Right.

A
Like, I mean, at least you'd have some things. Plus, you'd get fawning media attention about how she's the first black woman president for five months.

I mean, I think it would improve your chances.

I don't think it would hurt your chances.

B
I don't think so.

A
I mean, she's terrible. Believe me, I.

B
Very much so.

A
She'd have at least maybe some shielding away from some of these problems in that she didn't have full control of them. I don't know. I think I'd do it if I were the devil.

B
And she's unburdened by what has been. Oh, yeah, that's big. That's huge.

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Pat and Stu for Glenn. Today Glenn's back on Monday, how much have american attitudes changed since 1985? So in the last 40 years, we have a new poll that might give us some indication of that. Get to that in 1 minute.

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B
New study out.

This was done at the University of Chicago, and they've found that Americans broadly support LGBTQIA, two plus people living as they wish.

Who doesn't support that? Go ahead and live how you want. Would anybody say, no, you must live the way I want you to? Would anybody say that? I don't know if you want to do it. I suppose there's a few people that would say that.

A
It's usually, the complaints typically have to do with that stuff being the drag queen story hours. Right? Like that stuff being inflicted on children is where there seems to be lines for people.

B
Yes, yes. And there should be those lines, right? Don't leave our kids out of it. Leave. Leave the kids out of it.

But in 1985, 72% of american adults said sexual relations between adults of the same sex were always or almost always wrong.

A
72%.

B
72% in 1985, almost 40 years ago.

What is that number today?

If you had to guess what we.

A
Speaker one, I would probably guess 15%.

B
A little bit higher than that. Actually, it's 28%.

A
That's actually surprising.

B
28%.

In 1985, 64% of people, of Americans said they'd be very upset if their child was gay or lesbian.

Now, 14%. So very much closer to what. Okay, you thought on the. On the other question.

In 1985, 51% said they favored laws protecting gay and lesbian people from job discrimination.

That's. That seems low, even in 1985.

Should anybody be discriminated against? The workplace?

A
Like, so. I'm sorry, you can't have that promotion. You're gay. Like, I mean, that's.

B
Yeah, right. Cause that's what you would be protected against. Or, I'm sorry, you can't have this job because you're catholic or whatever. I mean, those things are wrong, and we've always known that.

A
Yeah, I would think that. But maybe that's not true in these polls.

B
Apparently not. Only 51% in 85 favored laws.

In the latest poll, 77% do, which still seems somewhat low to me because.

A
Yeah.

B
Discrimination on any basis you would think would be wrong in the eyes of Americans.

A
And it's still. I mean, look, there's not a lot of things that 80% of Americans agree on, so I suppose that is still a lot. But I would have guessed a little higher on that one. I would. I would say.

B
Now they say that for trans support, it's a little bit different. The numbers are lower for trans support.

A
Oh, yeah.

B
But I'm not sure how you define support, you know?

Okay. Because that's an important question.

A
Do they give you the text of the question on this one?

B
Looking here, I don't. Let's see, those questions show that there's. Some of the levels of acceptance just aren't as high for trans people as non binary, uh, as they are for gay men and lesbians. About one in four Americans said, for example, that they'd be very upset if their child was transgender or non binary. Nearly twice as many, uh. Who said they'd feel the same way about a gay child.

A
That makes sense to me as far as what the american people would think. You know, I.

And some of these things just are changes over periods of time. But some of it.

I think there's a major line between the l and the g and the t and that line.

And I think the reason why Americans have such an issue with the t part of this particular equation is that the t requires us to participate in something that's not true.

Right. The t is. Okay, you're saying you're a man and you're definitely a woman or vice versa, and you're demanding that I participate in that falsehood. Right. That is a really heavy ask for someone.

B
Sure is.

A
You're saying, I have to say, even though I know you're a man, I have to say, actually, you're a woman.

B
I have to lie because that's how you identify.

A
Because that's how you identify.

B
Yeah. You still have the same body parts.

A
Yeah.

B
But now you're just identifying as something else right now.

A
This is unlike the l and the g, you know, a couple of gay friends, good individuals, they really are gay.

It's not like a man woman thing where, like, he's saying he's a woman, but he's actually a man. No, he really likes the dudes. Like, that's his thing. You know, what are you gonna do?

B
What are you going to do?

A
I might not be my thing, but what you're asking me to do in that situation is say, look, he's making choices that don't involve me, and they are accurate. He's made those choices. Right. That's what you're asking me to do with the transgender part of this. You're asking me to.

You're compelling speech out of me that I know isn't true. I can't go down that road, and I don't think Americans largely will. Yeah, that's a line I feel like people won't cross, though. I will say, you know, foundational things, like men are men and women are women, used to be things we didn't usually lose. Like, we. You don't lose sight of foundational things like that. And I do think we are at a period now where that stuff disappears really quickly. I mean, you're talking about these polls over a 40 year period. Let us not forget that we currently have Joe Biden as the president of the United States. The previous president was Donald Trump. The president before that was a Democrat who opposed gay marriage.

That is how recently this stuff has happened and how fast we've moved.

B
Yeah.

A
You know, this is a.

This has happened really quickly.

B
Yeah.

A
And so, and where I think a 40, 50 year change on something like this is pretty understandable for a society, whether it's right or wrong.

B
Most of that change has happened in the last. What? When was a gay marriage legalized? Was that 2014, 2015?

A
That sounds about right. Yeah, it was in there.

B
It's only been ten years. But once that happened, the floodgates were opened. Right. And now we're asked to do all of this other stuff that, like you said, we don't necessarily want to do. Like, admit that a man is a woman and a woman is a man. If that's not backed up by biology and you can't even apparently identify what's a woman if you're not a biologist and those things, that's a bridge too far for most of us.

A
Sorry.

B
Go ahead.

And we resist that.

A
Yeah. Look, I don't.

There's a libertarian appeal to the american people that was successful with gay marriage, for example, which was basically like, look, you know, it's not. It's not legend, slave law.

It's not involving you. You're not involved in that at all. I am involved in every transgender person every time. Every single time. You're involved in it. You don't think you're involved in it. You're involved in it because they are telling you you need to say something. They are compelling speech out of you that you know to be untrue. So you are involved in every one of those. It's not like gay marriage.

You can't make a libertarian appeal, uh, to each individual. You can make a libertarian appeal to society and say, as I would say right now, you know, you shouldn't have. You shouldn't be discriminated against. You shouldn't be, uh, beaten up in the streets. All the obvious things.

B
Yeah.

A
You know, people, even if they make choices like this that are, you know, very strange in some ways to society and. And some. And might indicate issues, mental issues. That was. I mean, it was a wreck, very well recognized by psychiatrists for a very long time as a. As an issue that was afflicting people.

We're going another direction on that. Like, you can make a direct. You can make it an argument that society should set up rules that people can. Can do this and all that, but you can't set up rules that make me participate in the lie. I know what the truth is in these particular situations. I know what a man is. I know what a woman is. I know the definition. I don't need. It's. You know, Matt Walsh made the movie what is a woman? That one was easy for me to answer. I didn't need to watch the movie. I knew.

I mean, that's not what he was really trying to do with the movie. But, you know, get the point. The question was not difficult for every single person in the audience. Everyone knows what woman is, and that, of course, was the point of the movie.

B
Yeah.

A
Everyone knows, and they won't admit it.

B
And the experts he talked to were baffled and stumped by it. Couldn't define a woman.

A
Incredible.

B
Yeah. It's unbelievable, by the way.

A
June 26, 2015 was the Obergefell decision in the street.

B
2015.

A
So that's.

B
Hasn't even been ten years.

A
Not even ten years. And do you have the. You have the gay marriage? Was that one of the polls that you had? There is gay marriage in that list?

B
Well, they put it this way. While 80% say they somewhat. Are strongly approve of gay and lesbian people living as they wish, to me, that would include marriage.

So 80% of us are on board with that. It drops to 67% when asked about transgender and non binary people. And I think we covered pretty well why that is.

A
Yeah, I think that's true.

And, I don't know. Live as they like. I don't know if that. Maybe that includes marriage. I suppose it does. I mean, marriage is a. Look, marriage is a.

Is multiple things. It is a government institution that sorts you into particular tax brackets and things like that. That, to me, is largely meaningless.

I get nothing out of my marriage from the government. Like, I. The. When I look at my marriage as a. As an individual, I am married to a person.

The value of that marriage, 0% of it comes to. Comes to me from the government. I think you'd agree with that, right? Like, I don't. I didn't get married for the tax benefits or penalties.

That's not. I don't care that some, you know, selectman has me on a piece of paper and is giving me a quote, unquote, marriage license. By the way, marriage licenses introduced into our society to stop interracial marriage. Just in case anyone was wondering, you know, people like, you know, George Washington were married without a.

B
Without a license.

A
License like that. That's like a new thing that came across to largely in the progressive era, to stop things like interracial marriage. They wanted to stop at the time. So, again, marriage, in another completely different sense is something that you engage with your wife, your husband, in front of God. That's the thing that means something to me. The government aspect of this means zilch to me. I don't. I literally don't care if they recognize my marriage, other than the fact that, like, there's issues with, like, inheritance and things like that's, the only value you get is just them recognizing some legal arrangement, which you could theoretically do another way. But when it comes to actual marriage, Pat, I've got the poll here. So, 1996, should gay marriage be valid?

68% say no.

That falls.

B
96.

A
96.

B
Okay.

A
That falls and falls and falls and falls and hits the breaking point in around 2010, where it's about 50 50, and now it is 7128 the other way, right? Yep. The other way. 71%. They should be valid. The question, the exact text of the question. This from Gallup. Do you think marriages between same sex couples should or should not be recognized by the law as valid with the same rights as traditional marriage? So, again, that progression, 1996, only 27% said they should be valid. Now it's 71%. So, like, you have a lot.

B
Complete turnaround.

A
Complete turnaround. You see the same thing with pot. Uh, that one has happened around about the same pace where it was completely rejected 30, 40 years ago now is overwhelmingly accepted. And by the way, you know, you don't get to 71%, uh, approval without, you know, pretty large approval from republicans, right? Like, this is.

B
Yes. That's not all democrats, that's for sure. Yeah.

A
I mean, it's been. It's been. It's one of those issues that was a. A massive issue, if you remember, in 2004. Now. Now we're going back 20 years, 2004. This was the issue that Karl Rove, I mean, famously came up with a strategy to put a bunch of gay marriage constitutional amendments and other bills, you know, on the ballot, in particularly in swing states, to try to get people activated to go to the polls to vote for George W. Bush, who was very much in question, whether he was going to win that election. I mean, I don't remember, you know, making really looking at it closely enough, but my vibes were, I thought Kerry might very well win that. I mean, it was very close. It came down to just Ohio, and it was one of those situations where it felt like Bush was really on the ropes, and now. So that was the strategy, was this would animate conservative voters who will come, they'll vote for, against gay marriage, and they'll, okay, I'll throw Bush on there, too.

That was the strategy back then. 20 years later, this is completely opposite.

B
Yeah. That would backfire on you big time now.

A
Oh, yeah. I mean, would no one even try it?

B
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Patton stu for Glenn today.

I like this, too. After decades of progress by LGBTQ advocates, more Americans than ever identify as LGBTQ.

A
Huh?

B
Yeah.

A
Huh?

B
Mm hmm.

A
You know, that must be because they were so scared to come out in 2014.

B
That's exactly. They were justly right.

A
They were terrified to tell the media because of all the negative attention they get now.

B
They've always. We've always had this number, always, of people who identify this way. It's just that now they're more comfortable coming out.

A
Right. It's totally natural that, like, 48% of young people are transgendered. That's. That was just the. That's just the way it's always been.

B
Yeah.

A
48% of people were always dressing in the opposite clothing and wanting their genitals cut off back in 1971, but they just couldn't say it.

How stupid.

B
It is so ridiculous. We know that this is a. It's a social contagion right now. That's what it is. It's. It's been made to be cool, I think. And you get a lot of attention.

A
This way, especially for younger people. Very influenced by this.

B
Well, 7% of adults identify as some fitting into somewhere of the LGBTQiA two plus realm. Okay, 7% of adults. But when you're talking about Gen Z, it's 20%.

A
Come on.

B
Come on, now.

A
Come on.

B
That doesn't happen just naturally.

A
These are two, I think, two phenomenon happening at the same time. One is the social contagion thing that you're talking about where people.

The easy example of it is they watch a bunch of TikTok videos and convince themselves they have the thing. They all have Tourette's, and they all have every new ailment. And it also happens with stuff like gender identity where they.

B
You know what?

A
I actually think I'm non binary. I've never really fed in, fit in with these categories. And of course, the categories are just like, defining. They're not defining as what body parts they have. They're defining them as, like, these weird stereotypes of what gender should be. I got news for you. When I was growing up, there was a lot of kids, a lot of. A lot of girls played sports and were really good at it. And we didn't say they didn't fit into the gender norms of women. We just said they're.

The term was tomboy. Right. But, like, it didn't mean they were boys. It meant they were girls who liked playing sports and, like, hung out with the guys. Like, it was. It's part of femininity. Femininity. I must go that it's like. It's part of it. It's like a different part of it, but it's part of it. They're just girls. They're just doing their thing. So that was part of it. I think the other part of it, which is a little bit undersold in these polls, is that a lot of people who are completely straight, straight as an arrow, the girl who is 100% going to date and marry a man that is going to be their lives, have decided to themselves, well, if I found the right woman, I would. I don't. I don't judge people like that. I'm actually bisexual and they've kind of come up with this other category, which doesn't mean they actively hook up with both sides. It's just this, like, open ended.

I do it if. Look, I just haven't. I've never met a girl I wanted to do that with, but if I did, I would. I am not against it. Right?

B
I'm not judging.

A
And that sort of, like, I'm not judging thing equals bisexual for them when it's not, right like that.

B
That's what's boosted that number to 15%, I think.

A
So you notice it's the one that rises the most. I think that's because of that by far. Prove it. That's my bisexual. Prove it. Date of. Date a girl for three years, then I'll believe you.

That's my. It's my new, new standard. Shut up. Shut up. On your 25th wedding anniversary to a man, you'll still be saying you're bisexual. It's nonsense. All right, let me tell you something a little more serious.

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B
Back Race Stupor gear for Glenn today. Triple 8727 beck. We were just talking about the survey of sexual proclivity of people in general, but especially young people. They've also just studied whether or not our kids are getting involved in, I guess, vices.

A
Yeah.

B
Like they used to.

A
Really interesting polling. Ryan Birch posted this, and I think it's fascinating.

Go back to 1976.

B
Yeah.

A
The percentage of high school seniors that had consumed alcohol passed a couple of sips. Not like a sip you had once when you were a kid or something. But, like, I've consumed alcohol in some way.

B
You've been drinking.

A
You've been drinking. High school seniors. That number in 1976 is 92%.

B
Wow. I believe that, though.

A
Really? It was. That was just the thing people did.

B
Yeah.

A
I mean, that's really high.

B
I wasn't a high school senior yet, but, I mean, there was a lot of drinking.

A
A lot of drinking involved.

B
Yeah.

A
92%.

That number has fallen quite a bit.

When. So by the mid nineties, it's down to about 80%.

The number today, 53%.

B
Wow.

A
Of high school senior, 40 points.

B
Yeah.

A
Basically almost cut in half.

B
40%. That's amazing.

A
Really amazing for. So 92% in the seventies, down to 53% today. There's. Among high school seniors and smoking. You might think, okay, you know, we've sort of, as a society, changed our view on smoking big time in a big way. So you'd expect this one to drop, but it's dropped significantly.

In the seventies, it was 76% of high school seniors were smokers or been smoking.

That number now is 17%.

B
Wow, that's huge.

A
Really? I mean, that's.

B
That's huge.

A
So there's a lot of news I could say is bad. Those are really good, positive trends.

B
Like you mentioned, though, society's really changed on smoking.

A
Yes.

B
You know, you're almost a pariah if you smoke. Yeah. And we changed the way, like, at restaurants. I remember fighting this battle back in the early two thousands, late nineties, early two thousands about restaurants and whether you could smoke in a restaurant.

A
Yes. Yeah.

B
I hated it so much. But, you know, it was people's. Right now. Well, the restaurant's gonna go out of business. No, no, they're not. They don't sell cigarettes. They sell food.

A
Right. They're not gonna go out of business.

B
They're not gonna. And they didn't.

A
No.

B
By the way, you might notice there are still restaurants. They didn't. There still are restaurants.

A
I would argue from a personal liberty standpoint that the business owner should be able to make the decisions themselves. That being said, I do really like when they make the decision of no smoking.

B
I do, too.

A
I really do.

B
I do, too.

A
I don't think she come from the government. I don't. I don't.

B
A lot of municipalities did make that decision. Yep. They did it. They stuck with it and survived it.

A
Yeah.

B
And look, here we are now.

A
The only real line there, I think, as far as, quote unquote, going out of business where certain bars, you know, casinos, things like that.

B
Yeah.

A
They're not going to go out of business, but, like, you really are adding a lot to the people who want to go in there and go to a smokey bar, maybe. Smoke. They want to smoke in a bar, you're making them go out. And if you're in, you know, one of the first cities that did this was New York City. It's freaking cold there. A good chunk of the year, like going outside and smoking sucks for these people. Now does look good. The attitude changed. I think it would have changed anyway. I think most businesses would have decided to make this decision over this period of time without the laws. But I will say it's one of those laws that I don't like the way it happened, but I do like the effects of it.

B
Yeah, I don't like smoke, but the places that don't do that, like, we went to a bowl game in Louisiana a couple years ago.

A
Okay. Yeah.

What team was playing in it?

B
I'm trying to think. Do you remember, was it the BYU Cougars?

A
Oh, really?

B
Yeah.

A
I'm surprised.

B
The University of Alabama, Birmingham Gophers or whatever.

A
That is a game that everyone's been talking about.

B
When those two teams get together, you can throw a record.

A
Oh, yeah. You don't need. They don't need the record books. So that's a.

B
We were looking for a place to eat afterwards in the beautiful city, the lovely city that we were in. And they. They had, the only place we could find that was available that we happened to be near was this casino. So we went into it looking for a restaurant in the casino. But this is where, you know, they smoke and they drink, and it was so weird to go into a place where there's still smoking involved and food involved. I mean, the smoke flavored your food. You could taste. You could taste the smoke, but not necessarily the hamburger that you were eating. Oh, man. I mean, it's. Yeah, it's a different world.

A
It is.

B
And I do like the effect of the no smoking in restaurants. But you're right. It. I mean, it did take away liberty.

A
It did.

B
From the bar owners and the restaurant owners.

A
Yeah, I agree. So that's one of those situations where, really, society has just changed its view on it. I mean, people would bring up, well, what about vaping? What about pot? And those things obviously have increased from back in. The. Vaping was at 0% in the seventies, but it's only 26% now. I mean, really, the youth vaping epidemic kind of argument is a bit overblown. It's a bit overblown. It's a problem because it's. It's largely a problem because vaping really is a product designed to be a.

A step off from smoking. Right. Like, as a product, if you are a smoker and you switch to vaping, that is an improvement. I. Some people will go, no, it's just as bad. I don't agree. Looking at all the science on it, I think it's a vast improvement. Um, so from the perspective of a smoker switching to vaping, I think it is a really positive change. If you happen to be, especially a heavy smoker, if you are a child that does nothing and you go from nothing to vaping, that's not a good change at all.

So. But, I mean, I would imagine, and this is not covered in the poll that the percentage of people who have smoked highly overlaps with the people who have vaped. Right. Like, this is not an additional 26%. Like, the 26% of people who have vaped in the last year are probably, I would say, I would argue, completely overlap with the 17% of people who smoke. I mean, I just think that's just another thing that's going on. Like, so I don't think that. That you're adding a few percent of people, but it's. I don't think it's highly significant. By the way, 7% of high school seniors say they've used heroin.

So that's a little high.

7% heroin.

B
Wow.

A
Now, I think about this sometimes, and I always think about it in the context of our friend Jeff Fisher, host, of chewing the fat. With Jeffy on your program as well.

I could not even begin to understand how to acquire heroin. I would have.

Yeah, I think so, too. But, like, if I wanted it, I would have no idea how to get it.

B
Well, except you go to Jeffy.

A
Yeah. That would go to J.

B
And you get some sage advice from him.

A
He would. Yes. He would either hand it to me from his pocket, or he would have. He would know a guy.

B
Yeah.

A
But in all seriousness, like, and I. You know, maybe that shows that I've been, you know, coddled in life or whatever, but, like, what? Not even begin to understand. Like, I don't know. Like, I just. Do you search the Internet for something like that? Like, do you go on maybe the dark web. The dark web? Like, I know you drive wartime at one point, maybe. Yeah. But, like, can you imagine? Can you imagine the scenario? Let's just picture Pat Gray driving around downtown Dallas, just opening up windows. Excuse me, sir.

B
You have any smack?

A
What? Do you know where the local heroin outlet would be located?

Kinda.

It's like you're doing basically the grey Poupon commercial, except you're looking for heroin.

You don't even know how to do it. Like, I don't even know how these things happen.

B
No.

A
You know, I guess you get into that world and you meet somebody. You have a drug dealer. You got a guy who knows a guy, but, like, I don't. How does this stuff start?

B
I don't know. Especially for 7% of young people like that.

A
Yeah.

B
That's crazy.

A
It's hard to believe that 7%.

B
And that's way too high. That's way too high.

A
It should be basically zero. I mean, heroin is. You think heroin is something you're escalating to yeah. Right. Like, you don't start out for that. You don't start out like Hunter Biden. Right? Like, your first time with drugs is not crack off of a hooker. Like, that's not day one. Like, it takes you time to. I would assume even hunter Biden in high school wasn't doing crack. Like, you have to. It takes a lot of work to elevate to get to that level, right?

B
Yeah, I would think so. Yeah.

A
Right.

B
You know, they've always called pot like the starter drug, right? You start with marijuana, the starter drug.

A
Right? You get in. You start, like, oh, you get that for a while. Then you get offered something else. You give that a whirl that gets addictive. Then you give the next thing a whirl.

B
Pretty soon you're dropping acid and mainlining heroin. Yeah, yeah.

A
But who you don't. I mean, by the end of high school, you've already gotten this entire transition.

B
No, that's crazy.

A
That's a lot. That's a life. That's one.

B
Yeah.

A
That turned you. I mean, I.

B
That's scary. Really legit for high school students. Yeah, that's, you know, scary. The rest of those statistics are really good.

A
Yeah.

B
Really promising. I think that's, you know, we don't talk about that enough. The positive changes among the youth. I mean, for half is probably too many to be on alcohol, but, I mean, it's not 92% anymore.

A
I know. And look, half is. I mean, think about, like, you know, fast times at Ridgemont High.

Go back to, like, you know, there's the cultural movies of that era.

B
It was just accepted.

A
The era.

B
Gonna do it.

A
Yeah. Like, every time you were alone on the weekend. That's what I mean. Again, I would think to myself, you know, watching that movie years ago, thought to myself, that was not my experience in high school. Like, there were parties in high school, but, like, it was really. I don't remember. I was also just not. Probably not invited to them. But, like, it was not my impression at all that 80% of my class was drinking. And senior year in high school, I could be completely wrong on that. Maybe. I just. Again, it definitely wasn't cool. So it's very possible that they intentionally did not invite me to such events. But, like, the fast times at Ridgemont High, my impression of that, well, it's like, that was obviously an exaggeration of the situation. I don't know, looking at these numbers, 92% of people were doing. Maybe it wasn't that much of an exaggeration.

B
Triple 8727. Beck, Patton Stuffer. Glenn, today.

A
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B
You're listening to the swinging sounds of Glenn Beck. Sit tight, boys and girls. We'll be right back after these messages.

Welcome. It is Patton, Stu for Glenn today. Let's go to Denise in Kansas. Hey, Denise, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.

A
Hey, good morning, boys.

B
Morning.

A
Hey, I got to tell you something. With your back in the seventies when we had like 90% of us seniors that were drinking. Yes. Forget we could drink at 18.

B
That is true.

A
Drink three two, we could go out and purchase three two beer at 18.

B
Yeah.

A
So, and we had the 18 disco bars and all sorts of fun stuff.

B
So.

A
Yeah, you make a very good point here, Denise, and I appreciate it. I will say this.

B
I don't know if kids cared that much when the drinking age went up to 21 to legally drink.

A
Right.

B
I don't and just obtained it illegally.

A
Right. And I will say this. Looking at, uh, looking at the stats we have every year basically broken down.

The age was changed in 1984. That's when that passed to raise the drinking age to 21. Nationally, the drop off between 76 and 84 was about 4%. So it went from 92 to 88.

B
Okay, so it dissuaded 4%.

A
I mean, not. And honestly, now that I'm looking at it a little more closely, I would say it did not drop in 84. There was no, like, you'd think there'd be a big drop off in 1984 because it. Because the raise, the age, it did not drop off at all, really, until I'm looking at 1994, it hit about 88. So it was really ten years, 90. Yeah, till the mid nineties.

And then started falling off from there.

Really. The dramatic drop off didn't really start until, I mean, it was still above 75% all the way till 2005.

Wow. So the drop off has been really. I mean, recently has been significant. Now there's addicted to, like, social media and eating tide pods.

So, you know, the interests have changed quite a bit, Pat.

B
I wonder if it. Social media has anything to do with it. Yeah, I don't know.

A
I mean, I do think there, and I think this was something I remember from my childhood, being that there was sort of a.

There was a countercultural element of not drinking that was active, at least in my school and my friend group, that was like, oh, God, these losers are going out drinking. I'm not doing that. You know, we were just sports nerds. Like, all we wanted to do is play sports all the time. So there was a bit of that that was going on, and I do see that now much more when it comes to social media. There's a lot of this, like, you know, sober January type stuff, and a lot of people going without alcohol. It's become a sort of countercultural trend among a lot of people in their twenties and thirties who are just like, I'm not doing this anymore for health reasons or also just because, like, I mean, what are the benefits? I will say, like, especially as you get older and I still have a few drinks here and there.

I feel so terrible, terribly now when I drink or after what I drink, that, like, it's so. It's just the desire to do it at this point is just very low.

B
Yeah.

A
You know, occasionally you'll have a group of friends, we'll go out, have a couple of drinks. I'm not saying, you know, I abstain.

I wouldn't say I'm going to enter the prohibition party nomination process at any time soon, which, by the way, is still a real party. America's oldest third party.

B
Wow.

A
Fascinating. Fascinating story that we don't have time to get into at this point. But the bottom line is, I think, you know, over time, unless you're really dedicated to it, it winds up fading out of your life because it just gets harder. You know, anything that's difficult, I want to stop doing. You know, there's this movement on the right, especially where it's like, you know, the hard thing is the thing worth doing, and that's great for other people. But for me, I totally agree. Hard, hard times make hard men and hard men, you know, make easy times and all that stuff. I agree with that whole thing. I just kind of want to sit on the side and sleep a little bit.

B
That's beautiful. You know, beautifully put. I think you're an inspiration to us all, Stu. Thank you.

A
I appreciate that.

B
It's bursting with inspiration right now.

A
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B
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B
It'S Patton stuffer. Glenn today, triple 8727. Becky, you know, I've been critical at times in the past of Alex Jones and some of the things that he has said.

A
Really?

B
Yeah.

A
I don't. I don't remember.

B
Speaker one. It's happened a few times.

A
Really?

B
Yeah, it's happened.

However, what's going on with him right now, if this is absolutely accurate, you know, the federal government trying to shut him down, he did this emergency broadcast last Saturday and said that the. The feds were there to shut him down. He had to spend the night at the studio. I don't know how this stopped him from shutting him down, but apparently he spent the night at his studio so that they wouldn't. I not sure how it all worked.

A
No issue. Full disclosure. You guys are buddies now?

B
Buddies, yeah, we're very tight. We're like this.

A
You're tight? You had him on the show, though.

B
Actually, I did have him on the show, yeah, for. I had him on the whole show.

A
Oh, really?

B
Yeah. A couple weeks ago.

It's probably been a month or so by now, but it was. It was fascinating. And. And so I am. I'm a little bit stunned that. I mean, first of all, he got kicked off of almost all his forums, right? He was knocked off of all social media. Yeah. He was stopped on Twitter, which Elon Musk just reversed fairly recently.

Um, but he still had infowars, and now he says they're trying to shut that down. Well, now, he's apparently agreed to sell it and then take the proceeds from that sale and pay down the debt that he owes to the Sandy Hook family.

A
Now, he owes a few dollars to them. A couple of dollars a ever so.

B
Slightly north of that.

A
Okay.

B
$1.5 billion is so stupid. Well, it's. It's unconstitutional. It's unconstitutional to hit somebody with a fine like that with. With a judgment like that. It's asinine under what's insane. And it's unconstitutional.

A
Cruel and unusual punishment, basically.

B
Right? I mean, you can't find a guy who has made. I don't know what he's made in his life. He told me on the Aries, he's never made more than, I don't know, a few million dollars, which is good money.

A
Oh, yeah, right.

B
But he's not a billionaire.

A
No, no. He said he's holding nowhere near.

B
He's not a hundred millionaire. There's no way he, he's got the kind of money that they just assessed to him. He can't pay a fine of one and a half billion dollars, stupid.

A
And everyone, everyone knows.

B
Everybody knows it.

A
Now of course the goal was never to collect the money.

B
No, it's to shut him down.

A
Shut him down and destroy him. I mean, really, he was the one of the first test cases for the lawfare approach when it comes to going after, you know, someone who you have distaste for in the media.

B
Right.

A
He really was.

B
And it seems to be working.

A
Yeah. Now look, he's admitted that he's made major mistakes in this realm.

B
Yeah. He's talked about them and I think he did.

I don't know why he thought that the Sandy hook thing was a hoax.

A
I don't either.

B
I mean, I don't know.

A
Maybe he's changed on this. But at that period, he believed everything was a hoax. It felt like every single big story that came out, he had some justification as to why the government did it. And, you know, like this was his schtick, it was his business.

And I can understand, especially if you.

B
I didn't like what he was saying. No, but does he have the right to say it?

A
And beyond this, this is a separate thing.

The justification for him being shut down, being fined a billion dollars or whatever is basically the very real mental torture these poor families were put through after this. And, and hold, hang with me for a second on this because there's a, this, I'm starting this off saying this because it is really legitimately real that these families were tortured online by people who believe this was a hoax. If you've ever read the stuff said to them, the stuff that's happened to them at their homes, how many times they've had to move.

Like they legitimately went through hell after going through the worst day any parent has ever gone through.

B
Like, I.

A
The amount of sympathy I have for these families is incredibly highly.

B
For me too.

A
I think it, it is among the worst things that's ever happened in this country, the Sandy Hook day.

B
And do you blame Alex Jones for that?

A
No.

B
Right.

A
He did not shoot anyone this day.

B
Right.

A
And while he was, nor did he.

B
Call the families and harass them.

A
No.

Right. Like. Yes, he went on the air and gave theories and did interviews with people who believed it was fake.

B
Yeah.

A
And was, should any moron been able to tell that he was wrong on that from day one?

B
Sure. I think so.

A
I don't think it would have been hard and was hard for either of us or probably 99% of the audience to figure out that, you know. Yeah, that was a really terrible day. Again, to bring you back there a little bit. This is. These were, what, seven year olds?

I mean, it is among the worst things. And. I know, and maybe it's because, especially when a lot of this was. A lot of the aftermath was going on with us. I had kids around that age. I mean, they're a little older now, but, like, the idea that you send your kids to school in an idyllic community and some person steals. Kills their mom, first of all, then steals their weapons, goes to school.

Really? Not like, you know, an insane person goes to school and shoots them all. I mean, I can't. It's beyond comprehension how terrible this is. And then for what the Internet does, to take this and turn this into a conspiracy theory and to, you know, to be furthered and talked about by Alex Jones, something he's apologized for, is really, really bad. However, Alex Jones didn't call these people and harass them. Alex Jones didn't do those things.

B
Right.

A
He didn't do them.

People should be held responsible for their own actions. The people who should be sued.

B
Well, they heard him say it on the air. I'm sorry.

A
I hear all sorts of things on the air.

B
Yeah.

A
Am I to be held responsible for every lie that I hear on the mainstream media? If I act on every b's thing the mainstream media says, is that my fault, or is that their fault? It's.

B
It's.

A
It's that it's my fault. I'm an individual. I make these decisions myself.

Every human being knows harassing a family who. Even if you think they're lying, you can't harass people. It's illegal. It's a crime.

And I never hear a bit of interest from the media. I'm sure these families would love to know who was harassing them, but I never hear a bit of interest from the media to find the people who actually made the calls, who actually care. We're actually doing the harassing. I never hear a word of interest about that. It's all about this guy who, in addition to all of this.

And, look, I will admit to not being a daily Alex Jones listener or ever, but I don't think this was his main thing. It's not like he was on the air every day talking about Sandy Hook.

B
I don't. I.

A
He was doing that about 911. I would assume 911 victims would have a much better case against him than do Sandy Hook victims. From what I understand. Reading about the story, he talked about it a few times because it was a big story in his world, but, like, it wasn't the main thrust of his show.

B
No, I don't think it was.

A
I don't think he was the main source of these rumors. I don't think he was the main source of these claims. I think he entertained things that he absolutely should have known were false.

But like a billion and a half dollars, it's insanity.

B
It is.

A
It's insanity. And the fact that they just, like, they wanted this guy shut down for a bunch of different reasons and they've utilized this path of law fair to do it. And I don't know. I mean, look at, obviously Donald Trump is the most recent example that is in everybody's mind. I think quite clearly the, a lot of the same tactics were used here.

And I, I don't know. I think now it's going to start coming from both sides.

I don't think, I don't think opening up this pandora's box was a good idea.

B
No, probably not. Probably not. And I think he'd take it back if he could. He said that a little late. Yeah. Yeah.

One of the lawyers in the case, one of the lawyers for, for the families said this about the judgment speech is free, but lies you have to pay for.

That's not accurate.

A
I mean, there are some levels.

B
Cute, but it's not true. I mean, if you telling a lie about this, and first of all, you have to define what is the lie here. Did he believe this at the time? And I think he did. I think he believed it at the time. I don't think he does anymore. Yeah, but at the time, I think he believed it. So is that a lie at the time?

A
Right. Like, like, is it illegal to just be an idiot? I mean, I mean this sincerely. Like, if you believe everything is a false flag and you get fooled by something on the Internet that you now have been turned around on and no longer believe is true.

B
Yeah. I mean, I, the thing about free speech is that you don't have to protect. Lovely speech.

Everybody agrees, that's fine. That's free. What comes in, what makes it really hard is when somebody's saying something you don't like.

A
Yeah.

B
Like this. And something that's actually, you know, hurtful to people.

Do you have the right to say it? Do you have the right, I mean, as long as you're not threatening them, making terroristic threats, do you have the right to say it. I mean, that's what we have to. Those are hard choices, but that's what the, that's what the first amendment is about.

A
Yeah. Hey, look, you should be able to, again, I think this is one of the worst things that's ever happened in the country. I can't think of a day.

B
It's terrible.

A
Obviously, we've had terrorist attacks and civil war, and it's slavery. There's a hundred things that would compete. But it's talking about an individual horrible incident of waking up one day and going through that. So it's beyond impossibly horrific. And to add on to that, the fact that you have to go through years of harassment over it as if you were faking your own kids, I can't imagine how horrible that must be. That being said, the american people, some broadcaster has the right to be wrong about it.

B
Yes.

A
Right. Like, I mean, and that's what it.

B
Boils down to, he was wrong. He was wrong about it.

A
He was wrong. He's admitted he's wrong.

And again, going back, if I remember right, correct me if I'm wrong on this, Pat. I don't hope I don't get sued for being wrong, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Most of the stuff on this particular incident was stuff he had people on who believed it and interviewed, interviewed them over it. And maybe he didn't get much of a pushback. I don't know.

You know, but, like, unless the person who gets legal benefit, legal penalties for this are the people who freaking did the harassing, you know, just like, you can't just sue the gun companies for people who go shoot people.

You hold people responsible for the crimes they commit, when they commit crimes, hold them responsible. You can't just say, well, I.

B
What a concept.

A
Can you imagine?

What could we have said about, like, Steve Scalise was shot and they tried to kill, kill 10% of elected Republicans on a baseball field one day.

B
Yeah.

A
And this person who did it was a Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer. Okay, I know we've all memory hold this incident, but the stuff that led up to the person doing that, that was in both the mainstream media, but also on places like MSNBC and every, every left wing podcast that would drive a person to the level where they want to kill every Republican on a baseball field they could find.

Are you sure you want this world? You sure you want a world in which every broadcaster that made a claim that we find in that person's social media feed later on gets blamed for it? How do you, how can you talk about anything? How could there be any news broadcast in a world where that's reality?

And like, they're just taking a person like Alex Jones and be like, oh, well, he's crazy and we don't, we really don't like him. Same thing with Donald Trump. Yeah, well, no, we don't want that world, but Donald Trump's really bad. We don't want him to be president again. So it's justified. No, it's not.

B
He post mean tweets, though.

A
He posts mean tweets. We don't like him. We don't want that thing. So the constitution doesn't matter. We don't want it really badly. We really don't want it. You have to understand, we don't want, want that thing to happen. Like, that's not enough.

B
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Tell you what else is fascinating to me.

There are a couple of interesting people in the news right now, Alex Jones being one of them. The other is Russell Brand.

Am I mistaken in remembering that Russell brand was a super obnoxious leftist almost to the point of, like, socialist and like a despicable human being? Was he not?

Remember that? Do I remember that incorrectly?

A
You do not in my recollection, is very similar.

B
He was a guy who's done a complete 180, it seems. Right? Yeah. I mean, not just politically, but also, apparently, spiritually. He was just baptized.

I guess he just. He's Christian now, and a fairly newly minted Christian, but, uh, sounds like he's, you know, really sincere about that. I don't know. I hope it's all sincere. Um, but, uh, he, he just said, if you care about democracy, I don't know how you could do anything other than vote for Donald Trump.

He's amazing to me. That's incredible. Was this guy not huge into Obama?

A
Yeah.

B
Right. I mean, a few years ago, right.

A
Married to Carrie, Katy Perry, I think he was.

B
Yes.

A
She was massive left wing.

B
Yeah.

A
Uh, person.

He was very, very left. Now, I don't know. I mean, I think, you know, there.

B
What happened there? How did this happen?

A
Well, I mean, his life is turned upside down, right. I mean, and his career has been destroyed.

I mean, it's been completely destroyed. Now, you could argue he's done some things to justify that. I mean, he went. He was certainly a me too era victim. He. Of course, the word victim's a little weird there because. I'm just saying it because he believes that he was. He says he was. He was. He denied all charges on that one.

B
He denies doing anything against anybody's will, right?

A
Yes. He says he was very promiscuous. He did some things he regrets. Treated people poorly.

B
Yeah.

A
But he did not do anything illegal. Now, of course, the accusations against him were very much of illegal behavior.

He was very much accused of terrible, terrible things, including all the way up to rape.

Oh, wow.

But he denies that.

I don't know.

B
And he hasn't been convicted of anything, right?

A
Nope. I don't think he's even been charged.

He was accused of it. He was. Brief rundown of the accusations against him.

He said he raped one woman in her Los Angeles. In his Los Angeles home. Another claimed he sexually assaulted her after she was hired by him on a project. Third woman claimed she was groomed by brand when she was just 16, before he forced oral sex on her. Fourth accuser claimed that brand sexually assaulted and committed physical and emotional abuse against her. So that's at least part of it. There's been others that have come out with varying versions of this. There's a lot of stuff. Um, now, he, of course, denies it, and we don't know. We don't know. I, the 16 year old one does. If my rec, again, I'm going to say my recollection here, I'm not 100% sure of this. My recollection of this is he basically did, there was a relationship there with someone that young.

Now she claims other things happened. I don't know at 16, if there's a, I don't know what the laws are in Britain for the consent. To me, it doesn't seem like 16 is really old enough to consent.

But I know some states, the majority of states, I think in the United States it's around that age. So I don't know. But that's not a good thing.

Long story short, if those accusations are true, you could certainly argue that he deserves it, deserves prison time, obviously.

B
But he's not. Again, he's not been charged with anything.

A
He does not go into prison for it. He's just been one of those things. The accusations came out and his career goes away.

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All your favorite conservative voices@blazetv.com. glenn promo code Fauci live Patton Stuart for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program, triple 8727 Beck. We were talking about Russell Brand and, and whether his transformation is 180 degree turn here. Is that real or is it, is it just what he's doing? Because, you know, he lost his livelihood the other way and now this is a good way to make up for it.

I don't know.

A
It's fascinating because his political transformation, I would say, predates the me too sort of tear down of his career.

Right. Like he.

A little bit. I think he became sort of like anti great reset, and he was talking about that type of stuff before all of these accusations happened. And then his accusations happen. His career really is destroyed. He gets kicked off of all the social media stuff, the whole deal.

And then he later on has this sort of awakening to Christianity now.

I think there's a cynical worldview to take an earthly view from a cynical perspective, to say that, like, okay, guy went from having everything to having nothing.

And this is all very convenient, right? Like, now that he's in this place where he has no audience anymore because everyone he used to, who used to like him now hates him, he could come out and say, oh, now I'm voting for Trump. And now I'm a Christian. And, and all of these things, I really, really hesitate to embrace that view, particularly on the Christianity thing, because, look, miracles are possible. This is the most, most commonplace. They would be seen, I believe. I mean, like someone I, so I, I really hope it's true. Like, I really hope it's a real conversion. And I don't have any reason to believe otherwise. You know, I mean, there's a cynical humanity part of you that has to, like, think about that stuff when someone has this big of a conversion. But, like, people really do have these conversions. This is, this is not a story that's been told once.

B
He'll probably never be in another Hollywood movie. Yeah, that's over again. Right.

A
That's over.

B
I mean, they're, they gotta be done with him.

A
Yep.

B
I mean, look, talking about Trump like this. Yeah.

A
And, but that's brand new. Even just at some level, like, the political stuff sort of started happening. But he was still like one of those guys that's a liberal, but I'm against wokeness. Like, he was like that type of guy for a while.

B
Yes, I remember that aspect. Yeah, I remember that phase.

A
I don't remember a pro trump thing really happening until now. Right. Yeah. The Christianity thing, I think is the most interesting because that is something that obviously, I mean, mass murderers have had conversions, had their lives changed this way.

B
They have.

A
And I mean, terrorists, when we've talked to people who were former christians, you.

B
Absolutely believe in this.

A
Oh, yeah.

B
Right.

To doubt it. I guess is legitimate. But who are we to doubt it, right?

A
It's also, can't judge. Obviously happened and not been true before. People have faked it with sympathy, and that's obviously happened. But that's on them. That's not on us. That's on them. To deal with the consequences of doing something like that, which I might tell you is not a good idea long term.

B
Here's what he said about it. People are so cynical about the increasing interest in Christianity and the return to God. But to me, I mean, it's obvious.

As meaning deteriorates in the modern world, as our value systems and institutions crumble, all of us become increasingly aware that there is this eerily familiar awakening and beckoning figure that we've all known all our lives within us and around us.

A
That's great.

B
I think that's great.

A
And look, it's true and it's powerful, right? Coming from a person who forget the worst of the accusations, which are massively criminal by his own admission. He's done a million terrible things, right? Like, for a person who could come from that and be saved, to use that term, is incredible. That's great. That's freaking great. And I really hope it's real, honest and lasts forever and no reason to believe it isn't. I mean, you see the, I mean, the, you can do this without a political.

B
And you could see reason that it might not be because he, you know, yes, he could be trying to convince us that, oh, he's had this amazing transformation to Christianity and now he's no longer, he would never do any of these things now.

A
Right? And of course, like, he, we are on the, on the right. Uh, and I'm sure this doesn't apply to you, who happens to be listening, but we are on the right. A bit desperate for celebrity attention.

It's a little embarrassing.

B
Give us somebody other than Donnie and Marie, please.

By all that is holy, can you give us somebody?

A
We'll take basically anybody.

B
Take Russell Brand. Give him to us.

A
Russell Brand is like, I mean, shooting for the stars a lot of times. I mean, like, at least we're like, hey, wait. This person was a child star on a forgotten sitcom in 1978. We love that person. He's on tele, he's on Fox News 14 times a day. Like, we are a little pathetic. What are we comes to?

B
And I, but you can't blame us. We got nobody.

A
We got nobody. I mean, very few.

B
Very few.

A
And usually the, you know, there's a lot of the people that, you know, you wind up, even the big ones that wind up, a lot of times it's after they have major problems, you find out that they're conservatives. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I could come up with some names, but I'll leave them off for now. The bottom line is that, like, a lot of times there's this sort of, like, everyone knows that people who are conservative are targeted unfairly. So if you are targeted and you believe it's unfairly, who's going to receive your argument? A lot of times it's conservatives who are going to be like, oh, well, this has happened to me. It's happened to my friend who's a totally good guy and made one joke and was, you know, thrown out of his job. Like, we all have such close relationship, relationship to that. We relate very sincerely to it. And, you know, we've all seen what's happened with, with Donald Trump, who, again, is, you know, he's done some things that, that you might not like, but the way that they have manipulated the legal system to try to take him out before his presidential run is something that every conservative aligns with him on. I think it's helped on an enthusiasm situation for a lot of Republicans who are like, really another, I mean, I think people are, they get to a point where they get tired of fighting these battles. You know, I think there's, there was a good, there's a decent appetite. We saw it even in the primaries where more than half of voters in those early primaries didn't vote for Donald Trump.

B
Right.

A
Like, there's some appetite for people not because they don't like Trump, but just because they want to move on to something else, you know? And I think there was that appetite at some level, not enough to, for him to lose, but there was some appetite for that.

When you see things like this where they're trying to throw him in prison and totally just manipulated lawfare, it winds up bringing people back to the fold.

B
Yeah.

As we're talking about, though, transitions and people changing right before our eyes and in fairly quickly, how do you feel about John Fetterman lately?

A
It's one of the strangest things I've.

B
Ever, it's really, I mean, this guy I didn't like at all. No, I still wouldn't vote for him.

A
No, no, no, no.

B
But his transition from, you know, hardcore progressive to where he is today has been pretty interesting. I think the other thing that's happening is it seems that his, his mental capacity is improving. He doesn't struggle as much with, you know, just putting sentences together.

A
That's great.

B
And that's.

A
Health is improving.

B
Yes, his health is improving.

A
And I will say, we've called it.

B
A factory reset on my show. It's because it's like after the stroke, he had a factory reset in his brain and it's changed his mind on some issues.

A
Interesting.

B
Now he's not voting that way. So I especially would not vote for him because he continues to vote as a leftist with the party.

But the things he is saying, and he's taken a position on, for instance, immigration that is much closer aligned to conservatives than, than to democrats.

Also Israel, man, he's been one of the strongest voices in Congress on Israel.

A
He's been great on that.

B
Spent awesome.

A
Shockingly.

B
Yeah, he's been shockingly good.

So he was just being interviewed on CNN and he was asked about being a progressive. Here's what he said.

A
I want to ask you personally about.

B
Your own sort of journey.

A
As the kids say.

Some progressives have criticized you for being a different senator than you suggested you.

B
Would be when you were a candidate for Senate. What do you say to that?

Well, I wasn't, I was very clear for saying that for years I'm not a progressive and I just identified myself as just a regular Democrat. So it really wasn't any new news. Now, eight years ago, I was a progressive, but the situations changed. And I've been very clear that I didn't leave that label. That label leaves me, and I think it's much more important to be focusing on Donald Trump instead of, you know, kinds of pure tests and those kinds of issues. All right. So not totally well, because progressivism, he didn't leave progressivism, progressive progressivism leaved me.

So, okay. He's not completely well as far as the speech thing, but that's a lot better than he was doing, that's for sure. He sounds so progressivism left him.

I think what happens to him to maybe Bill Maher, to some of these other people that we've noticed as a sort of change in rhetoric in, over the last few years is that the left has become so extreme that there are certain people who just wake up one morning and they can't go down that road any further with them. They're like, okay, this is too much for me. I can't do it.

A
Yeah, it's happened to several, I mean, like Fetterman, his record as a, I mean, what his on record words really did indicate that he was maybe a socialist. Like, I mean, he was really, really far.

B
Like even during the campaign, which was what, 2022?

A
Yeah.

B
Wasn't he elect? I think he was elected in 22.

A
Now he's saying there's a, there was a transition before that, eight years ago.

B
That's what he says. I don't know if that's true.

A
I do remember just going through his record being like, well, this guy's not even a normal Democrat.

B
Yeah.

A
I did not think he was a normal Democrat.

B
I didn't either.

A
Now, to be clear here, and to your point, on the voting record, heritage action for America has a scorecard. So a conservative voting record scorecard. The average Senate Democrat gets a 6% from them, and John Fetterman has a 7%.

So that is the sort of hardcore right wing movement we're talking about here.

B
So the guy is essentially a John.

A
Bircher at this point, right? Like this.

I think the difference, it's interesting because the difference between Fetterman, what we thought we were going to get and what we got is not really in the way that he is, is voting.

B
No. It's, it's in the way that he's dealing with speaking to the press and especially on Israel. And I appreciate that a lot.

A
And, look, if you can get one good issue out of a Democrat, you celebrate it.

B
Yes.

A
It's very rare that it occurs.

B
And I'll take those two. I'll take it on immigration.

I'll take it on Israel, because Israel is under such fire right now that they can take any friend they can get. And he's been really strong despite all the opposition. We've had the. But we've had, we've played clips of him being followed through the halls of the Congress by left wing idiots who support Hamas, yelling and screaming at him about why he supports genocide and he stands up to him.

A
Yep. So you believe the Russell brand conversion story?

B
I think so.

A
Yeah.

B
I think so.

A
I think that's where I am. I'm going to say yes, but I'm.

B
I think so. I'm hoping so.

A
I hope it's real.

B
I do believe. Cause I think you're right. I think the, the political transition happened before, and I just.

Who am I to question his spiritual transition?

A
Exactly. Yep. So do you believe the Fetterman transition.

B
On these two issues? Yes.

A
And the two issues are border and Israel. And Israel. Israel, I believe. I'm not 100% sure.

B
I believe.

A
I think it's real on Israel, though.

I think that's real. Now, again, Democrats used to be pretty supportive of Israel. Some of them were. So he's not out of the Jewish.

B
Democrats were, but they don't seem to be now.

A
Yep. So I don't know.

B
Good for him.

A
Yeah, it's, it's an interesting thing, I will say. Shocking the amount of times that we've featured John Fetterman positively on this program.

Shocking.

B
Shockingly. More coming up in a minute.

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Why?

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