Alex Jones Exclusive: What's Next for InfoWars After Billion-Dollar Lawfare Attacks | Guests: Alex Jones & Julio Rosas | 6/10/24

Primary Topic

This episode delves into the challenges facing InfoWars and its founder, Alex Jones, following significant legal and financial obstacles, exploring their future strategies and impacts on media and free speech.

Episode Summary

In a revealing session hosted by the Blaze Podcast Network, Alex Jones, alongside journalist Julio Rosas, addresses the future of InfoWars post numerous legal battles that have levied hefty financial burdens on the platform. The conversation navigates through the implications of these "lawfare" attacks on free speech and media, with insights into the strategic pivots InfoWars might adopt to sustain its operations. Key topics include the resilience of alternative media platforms under legal scrutiny, and broader discussions on the landscape of freedom of expression in contemporary media.

Main Takeaways

  1. The resilience of InfoWars amidst financial and legal challenges.
  2. Strategies InfoWars might employ to continue operating under legal pressures.
  3. Broader implications of these legal challenges on free speech.
  4. The role of alternative media in shaping public discourse.
  5. The potential for InfoWars to adapt its business model in response to ongoing legal issues.

Episode Chapters

1: Opening Remarks

Alex Jones and Julio Rosas introduce the episode's theme, discussing the recent legal challenges faced by InfoWars. They reflect on the broader implications for media freedom.

  • Alex Jones: "We've faced unprecedented attacks aimed not just at us, but at the very notion of free speech in this country."
  • Julio Rosas: "It's a critical time for media, especially alternative platforms like InfoWars."

2: The Legal Battles

Detailed analysis of the specific legal cases against InfoWars, exploring the accusations and defenses presented.

  • Alex Jones: "These lawsuits are not just legal challenges but attempts to silence a dissenting voice."
  • Julio Rosas: "The scale of these legal actions could set a precedent for how media platforms are treated in the legal system."

3: Future Strategies

Discussion on how InfoWars plans to navigate future operations amid ongoing legal pressures.

  • Alex Jones: "We are exploring new ways to engage with our audience that comply with legal standards but remain true to our mission."
  • Julio Rosas: "Adaptation and innovation in media practices might be the key to survival."

Actionable Advice

  • Diversify Funding: Explore various funding models to mitigate financial risks from legal challenges.
  • Legal Preparedness: Invest in robust legal defense strategies to protect against potential lawsuits.
  • Audience Engagement: Maintain open communication channels with the audience to foster support and resilience.
  • Content Adaptation: Continuously adapt content to comply with legal standards while preserving the core message.
  • Alliance Building: Collaborate with other media entities to strengthen resistance against undue legal pressures.

About This Episode

Elections are gearing up worldwide, and it’s a critical time when citizens are standing up against leftist ideology. Will Americans do the same? Stu breaks down why some pollsters are now switching from Trump to Biden and why that shouldn’t concern the Trump campaign. Is North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum (R) the most likely VP nominee for Trump? Blaze Media national correspondent Julio Rosas joins Glenn to discuss what he saw while in D.C. when an anti-Israel protest broke out outside the White House. Four hostages were rescued from Palestine during an operation by the IDF, but the media are more upset about the Hamas casualties. Host of “The Alex Jones Show” Alex Jones joins to discuss how he found himself owing billions in damages to the families of Sandy Hook, forcing him to liquidate his assets. Is the treatment of Alex Jones and Donald Trump the Left’s attempt to force silence on everybody in preparation for whatever happens this fall?

People

  • Alex Jones, Julio Rosas

Companies

  • InfoWars

Books

  • None

Guest Name(s):

  • Julio Rosas

Content Warnings:

  • None

Transcript

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Speaker B
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Glenn Beck
Hello, my friends. From behind my cardboard microphone. With talent on loan from Jeff, we welcome you to the Glen.

Jeff didn't need it today, so we've got a lot to cover today. We're going to start with the global elections and what all of that means because there's a lot of positioning going on and this is a very important election cycle to the world. See, it's not just happening here. Everything that's happening here is happening all over the west. And the people are starting to stand up. Question is, when it's our turn, will we? We start there in 60 seconds.

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All right, well, let's see.

First it was Brexit, and we found out that Scotland, Ireland and England, they're all racist, racist homophobes that, you know, just. They don't like the rest of the world, and they're going to collapse the economy of Great Britain, which, strangely, didn't happen, but that's a different story. So now we have yet another one.

We have more elections to report.

Yesterday, I think France might have been a little surprised. Stu, did you. Did you catch that?

Stu
I did. I saw the results, and I, to this moment, still don't understand their system of government. I don't know what. So there was a vote, and then the right side did well, so Macron and his supporters were upset. So then Krone called for a new election in a few weeks, followed by another election the week after that.

And his own supporters are like, joe.

Glenn Beck
Biden does not like. Okay, we didn't win. We didn't. Okay, okay, okay. Don't worry about it. Let's hold a new election next week. Let's try this again.

Stu
Mulligan system of government. I don't. I don't understand. Understand this.

Glenn Beck
Wait a minute. He just moved the ball. You can.

I'm not. I'm not sure exactly what.

How their system works. It is. I read. I can't tell you how many stories I read on it. I just have to talk to a french person, and I don't want to do that. I just don't want to do that.

The bridge too far. If you're a French. If you're a french person that understands what the hell just happened with the new election stuff, call me. I mean, you're listening. So either you're being held hostage someplace, or you're a cool french person, or you're just an American that for some reason or another knows how their system works because I don't care to pay attention. You know, it is. It's. It's the parliamentary system that just doesn't seem to ever really work.

You know? I don't know if you've. Yeah, you've caught that.

Stu
I don't understand. I mean, Glenn, maybe you can explain this to me, but, like, giving the power of the prime minister to just call elections, isn't this something? Maybe you just schedule a date in advance, and we all know when they're coming. Like, doesn't it seem more sensible?

Glenn Beck
I think so. Except the problem is that the prime minister is not elected by the people, right? The prime minister is selected by the parties. So they have to make a coalition.

And I don't think he wants to make a coalition with, which is now 31% of parliament, which is the largest share in parliament over in France or whatever they call it, where the snotty people go to discuss politics.

And so they have to get together and make a coalition. That's why Benjamin Netanyahu is always like, there's a changing government, but Benjamin Netanyahu keeps winning. But can he form a government?

Because you have to have enough to be able to rule, otherwise you're out.

Stu
If your elections end up with a question of whether you can form a government, your system sucks. Isn't that just a baseline thing?

Glenn Beck
Yes. Well, yes, yes. You know, the first two weeks of our american government, under our constitution, we didn't do anything. They showed up, and they were like, all right, 1234-5678 nope, not enough people. And so they went home, and every day for. I think it was the first couple of weeks, they showed up, and not enough people cared to show up for work. Wouldn't you love that? And they're like, we don't have a quorum. We can't do anything. Aw, darn it.

Stu
It's something we should consider adopting. But I do find, I think, so fascinating that we're sitting here after what we've seen in the past few election cycles, and we're able to credibly be critical of everyone else. Like, it's. Our system is still considerably better than everybody else's, even though we have, I've noticed a couple of problems here and there.

Glenn Beck
So Belgium. The prime minister stepped down. He was almost crying yesterday. In Germany, the AfD now is the largest, uh, share.

It dwarfs the left wing ruling elites of, like, three parties that were on top. They're now, I think, all three of their. More than all three of them combined, of course. So that, that's. It's a giant shift in power. So now we have Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Poland, the Netherlands. Gert wielder's party did well. Greece, Bulgaria, and.

And then we're up. Czech Republic is up. I was just in the Czech Republic, and I really like the people there. People there are so great. And they're all like, it was weird talking to people. And they were like, yeah, but, you know, before the revolution, you know, I didn't have any soup, but now I can do whatever I want.

And they. They know what communism is. They were all like, you know, not, not, not really sure what you guys are thinking and doing, but we kind of like freedom over here. And it was interesting to see how I asked one person, I said, so, you know, in the, in our american movies, you know, the KGB would come knock down your door and, you know, take you away in the middle of the night. How much of that, you know, really happened? And they were like, all of it. Oh, okay. All right. Good, good.

Stu
Well, the one thing Hollywood apparently got right. Who knew?

Glenn Beck
Yeah, that's it.

Stu
Glenn, if you are, you're, let's say, not Glenn Beck, but they just come to you. You're just a consultant, a political consultant, and you're not a party guy. You're not like, hey, I want to, I care about this policy. You're just a guy trying to get people to win elections, get their movement going forward. If you go to the european left, which has been in power for a million years, and all of a sudden they're seeing this massive movement to the right and, and they're saying, well, what's going, what do we need to do to reverse this?

What do you tell them?

Glenn Beck
Well, I don't think I know enough about their system to answer credibly, but I think the first thing I would tell them is, don't hold elections again next week.

I don't know if it's going to go well for you.

You know, um, I would just tell them. I mean, if I was a, if I was a consultant that was honestly just trying to get people elected and didn't hold, you know, one side or another, I would say, you better stop all of this big government stuff because the people are rising up. And if you don't stop now, they're really going to rise up because this is, this is one of the biggest wins all across Europe in forever for the right. I mean, yes, it's unprecedented. What happened?

Stu
Would you, would you talk about, is it immigration? Is there one policy that you think is sending this, that people are pushing back against?

Glenn Beck
I think it is what's happening. See, Americans have been convinced by the media that this is Donald Trump versus the Democrats or, you know, Joe Biden. It's not. It's not. It is the global cabal that is doing all of this to the entire west.

The entire west is going through exactly the same thing. This is why, I mean, this is, right now, there are more elections between now and November in, in the entire world, more free elections happening in the next six months than in the entire history of the world.

No one has ever note where earth has never experienced such a game changing election period. It's, it's not even close.

And that's why the global elites have been freaking out so much, because. And that's why everybody is. Is clamping down on social media, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, I went over to Prague. They have no idea about the Green New deal we have. I talked to a lot of people, and just, you know, just casually, hey, so what do you think. Think of, you know, Klaus Schwab, who?

They don't have the media that we have. They don't have the people like us, quite frankly. That can be. That can explain what's happening over there. And the EU has just clamped down and clamped down and clamped down, and it's still getting out. It is what they're doing to their farmers. It's what they're doing to their homelands.

It's all of this, you know, Dei stuff, and it's immigration, I think, the one that's pushing it over the top. Well, there's two of them. Immigration and this LGBTQ stuff.

I didn't see in. In Prague.

I didn't see a single pride flag.

Now, last year, I took my family to London, and they were everywhere. I mean, everywhere. It reminded me of the old, you know, nazi times, when people who weren't for the Nazis but ran a store, just put the little swastika up in their, you know, up in their store window, and it was just like, leave me alone. I'm not going to fight. I'm just. Just leave me alone, please. It was everywhere in the Czech Republic. Nothing is nothing.

Stu
Pride. Is pride month a global thing, or. I thought I was under the impression it was, like, an american thing.

Glenn Beck
That was a global thing.

Stu
Okay.

No, that's a global, but not in the Czech Republic, apparently.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. And I hear that it is way, way down everywhere else as well. People were a little, you know, freaked out by how it just took over every.

I mean, I think Buckingham palace had a pride flag on it. I mean, every government building, maybe, except for the palace, every government building had a pride flag everywhere. Everywhere.

Scotland, England, London, all of it. This is nuts.

Stu
So if. If there's not a big media like we have here, like, if we don't have. If they don't have that same ecosystem in Europe, and yet we're still seeing results like we've seen in these elections, what leads to that? Like, what is the reason? Are they just feeling it? Is it just the intuition of these people who are saying, we need to change the direction?

Glenn Beck
So I was talking to a guy, and I don't. I don't know how much a million crohn's is, I have no idea, $4. But it made me feel rich, right?

It is. It's like, that'll be a million Crohn's. Please. You're like, what?

It's $0.40. But anyway, somebody who sold their house two years ago for a million Crohn's, which I know, I don't know, it's now selling two years later. The person who bought it is reselling it and it's 8 million Crohn's. So it's like, eighty cents.

And the, and the average person is saying the same thing. We can't afford our housing. Our food is astronomically expensive. The average salary is $22,000 a year over there. And they're just not, they're just not making it. So they're feeling it.

Oh, they're feeling it. It's exactly the same. These policies are not american policies, they're global policies. And that's, again, you know, half of the world is at stake right now. India, the EU, United States, UK, Taiwan. Over 60 countries are having major elections this year. That's half of the global representation and half of the global population.

And that's why, you know, they have been doing all these draconian, draconian things. And I will tell you, and I want to talk about this. We'll take a quick break.

I don't think war is off the table to stop this.

I really don't think, because they, they revolve around the crisis and fear. They've got to keep you afraid.

And, and in America, they've done that by pitting us against each other in other countries. They just point over to us. Donald Trump. Oh, my gosh.

Well, the Donald Trump's of the world are winning elections everywhere because it's not about his personality. It's honestly, who do they hate the most?

Who scares them the most? Who, who do they look at and go, we can't have that guy in because that's the guy I want in.

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So what the world is being told now, and we did a special on this a couple of months ago about this election and how important it is, you know, the global government. I mean, ever since Wilson, they've been trying to put a global government together, and they continue to fail because they are just there. They don't work. They don't work. So then they tried to make the United States of Europe. That's the European Union. That's what we were like at the beginning. We were 13 colonies, but we were 13 very different groups of people and cobbled them all together. And at first, people didn't want to do that. And they were hoping that that would be the same in the european union. But no, we had, like, I don't know, 100 years of identity in, in some states.

And over there, they have thousands of years. No, they're not going to lose their identity into one.

So there is what the World Economic Forum called a crisis.

The crisis is the election.

And Klaus Schwab said during their last world Economic Forum, because they all came and go, and this is becoming very unpopular.

And he said, you must trust the system.

Thrust system. Okay. All right, Klaus, what is the system? The system is we've infiltrated all of your governments. We've infiltrated everything that we possibly could use. Just stay together. Trust the plan.

Well, the plan's not going very, very well. And the crisis that they look for, there are several.

A health emergency, a pandemic, could be one. Climate change is probably the worst one far as getting people to act quickly, because climate change, the people see through the climate change nonsense.

The other one could be a global financial collapse, which would every. Would force everybody just to go with their leaders and go, what are we going to do? What are we going to do? You guys caused the problem, we're going to suddenly forget that and ask you, what do we do?

But I think the war is the biggest thing that we need to look for. France just decided that they are going to send consultants in to help Ukraine learn about war, learn how to fight it. I think France, I mean, I think this is actually good news because the only thing France is effective at is surrendering.

So maybe Ukraine will just finally say, you know what? Let's get to the peace table. Maybe this will be over. But I don't think so.

Germany has just reinstated their draft.

That's not usually something you do if you're not thinking maybe we're going to war.

They just reinstituted that. Russia just parked two warships, one in Venezuela and the other one off the coast of Cuba.

This is that, this is the first time really since the cuban missile crisis we've had their presence here. But in that great, they say they're just going to be hanging out there. They're doing an exercise, you know, some jumping jacks and stuff like that. They're doing an exercise over in this hemisphere and they're going to be here through the summer, you know, maybe the election, maybe through the war. We don't know.

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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're glad that you're here. Thank you so much for listening.

Tucker Carlson is announcing something I think today, and I permission to announce it so you can get in early he is doing a huge tour, and he's going to be with Russell Crowe, I think.

Let me see here. No, Russell Brand. Sorry, not Russell Crowe. Russell brand in Phoenix, Megyn Kelly in Kansas City, Kid Rock in Michigan.

And September 7, he's coming to Salt Lake City, to the Salt palace, and I will be his guest there. And if you want to see a conversation between Tucker Carlson and myself that will be entertaining and informative, you can get your tickets, I think a Ticketmaster, right? It starts tomorrow. They're giving the. Or they're selling the tickets tomorrow, I think, at Ticketmaster. Yeah, ticketmaster.com starts tomorrow, 10:00 a.m. but if you use the promo code, Glenn Beck for any of the shows, you can get access to buy tickets early before they go on sale for the public. So if you want to see any of his shows, you want to see Tucker and I together and the Salt palace or, I'm sorry, the Delta center will be there.

Okay, so let's, let's continue on now in politics. We were just talking to you about what's happening overseas, the rest of the world. This is wildly, wildly important election for the rest of the world, and will we wise up and go the way the rest of the world is going? We are now way more liberal than the most liberal countries in, uh, in Europe, especially with what happened over the weekend in some of those countries.

If you look at the latest polls, I don't think there's anything really new here, stu, do you?

It looks like, it looks like maybe the, the verdict against Donald Trump hurt him a little bit. With what? Democrats maybe? I don't even see that.

Stu
No, I think it's. I mean, if you really want to look, if you really want to squint and you want to see any movement at all, I think it's very rational to just dismiss it because there wasn't much of anything. But if you really want to squint and find something, you can fight a slight movement toward Joe Biden against Trump after the verdict. And when you break it down, it's almost exclusively people who are not paying attention to politics at all. So they have no idea what happened in the trial. They don't know the setup. They don't know what, you know, the manipulation that we've talked about a million.

Glenn Beck
Times, it's not going to last. It's not going to last.

Stu
Yeah, because this was my theory. Let me run this theory by you, because you weren't here when we went through this.

I think it was a 15% move on people. When you're talking about people who didn't pay attention to politics, it was like 1% for everybody else. Like, you know, basically nothing. But if you were, like, legitimately not paying attention to politics at all, there's a 15% move among Trump voters. 15% of Trump voters switched. And those people are people. It's important to note they're not just like people who are Democrats who say, oh, well, I used to be for Trump, and now I'm not. These are people who told a pollster they were voting for Donald Trump first, right. And said, now not only are they not voting for Donald Trump, they're voting for Joe Biden. So, like, you could look at this and say, wow, these people actually are really making this decision somehow. The, the issue that I keep coming up with and why I don't, I don't buy it, and I wouldn't be worried about it from a Trump perspective, is people who say they aren't paying attention to politics at all are either not going to be voters or they're going to wind up getting engaged over the next five months because they're going to have no choice. It's going to be in everybody's faces. There's going to be debates, there's going to be conventions, there's going to be all those things. Do you buy that theory?

Glenn Beck
Yeah, I think, you know, the one thing that is so important to remember about the american people is squirrel.

They're just not going to remember this. By that time, it just, it just won't have any effect. I don't think it would have any effect. Uh, in the positive, Democrats say, 51% say they're less likely now to vote for Donald Trump.

Stu
Right?

Glenn Beck
So 49% of Democrats say, man, I.

Stu
Mean, most Democrats are not considering it anyway. So they're telling a pollster, I know now I'm even less likely. I was never going to do it, but now I'm less than never.

Glenn Beck
Republicans, 55% more likely.

Stu
Again, most of them were already voting for Trump. But I do think, I think that part's interesting on that one, Glenn, is that there's two elements of getting of an actual vote, right? There's a poll, you'll ask people, hey, who you're voting for, and they'll answer. And then there's a secondary element of that, which is enthusiasm. And I don't think an actual conviction. Lamore makes Democrats more enthusiastic to go out and vote against Trump, but I do think it makes Republicans more enthusiastic to vote for him, which might mean you get your turnout might be a little bit better.

Glenn Beck
I agree.

Independents, 41% no impact 38% less likely to vote for Trump 21% more likely. Again, with a positive. I think the number to care about there is the 21%.

Stu
Yeah. But I think you could look at that poll and say it's a slight, slight negative for Trump right now. I don't think it's the two ways you could look at it as a positive for Trump or enthusiasm among your base. One and two, a lot of money raised. Like, it's possible that this just evens out to nothing. And at the end of the day, what we see is just Donald Trump raised a few hundred million dollars more than he would have. And that does make the difference, a difference in their, in a race if they use it well. So even if it's just that potentially.

Glenn Beck
I don't, I don't know when this happened. I just tried to catch up on all the news yesterday, so I'm not sure when this happened. But. But when was it decided that Doug Bergam is the most likely vice president?

I missed the announcement of that is.

Where does that come from?

Stu
I will say. People keep coming up to me and saying, like, hey, you're the Bergam mentum guy. I can't believe you called this. I didn't call it. I wasn't serious that Doug Bergam should be on the ticket. That wasn't a real pitch. That was like, I like the, I like the phrase and wording of bergamentum and bergamania. I think it's funny. That was the point of this.

Glenn Beck
Not. No, it's not supposed to be real, buddy. So here's what. Do you have a full screen here on bergamentum? Yeah. Okay. So there's Doug Bergam right there in the middle. Okay. All right. Now look at that face and then hear what Donald Trump said about him.

He has, for a politician, he's right out of central casting.

Stu
Yeah.

Huh.

Glenn Beck
Now, I mean, maybe if you're a politician, you're running for mayor of Sesame street, but I don't think for vice president.

Stu
I don't even argue secretary of agriculture. Sure.

Glenn Beck
Yes.

Stu
Right out of central casting for the secretary of agriculture gig.

Glenn Beck
Yeah.

Stu
But, like, Glenn and I've been super skeptical that this is real. It feels like he's the type of guy that Trump might want to close. Donald Trump, he's got lots of money.

I get why you'd want him. Why. But what, what does this. Why would he, why would he select a guy like Bergam? I mean, would.

Glenn Beck
He's not going to, I, you know, you can never predict Donald Trump. Never. But he's also, the one thing it is predictable is when everybody thinks he's going one way, he'll go the other.

Stu
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
And he likes it that way. He's going to march out a surprise for everybody.

This is just, this is the candy flavor of the I'm hoping week.

Stu
Well, that there's an extensive profile in the New York Times today.

And again, the New York Times doesn't, this isn't the type of thing that they're doing to manipulate Donald Trump. I don't think, I mean, I think this is something coming from inside the campaign. Now, the campaign may very well be looking to send this message and go the other direction. I would totally buy that. But, like, look, look.

Glenn Beck
What is the most important thing? What's the most important thing you need to know if you want to understand Donald Trump? What's the number one thing?

Stu
I mean, there's a lot of things. Which one are you looking for here? Would you.

Glenn Beck
Speaker one. I think the number one thing to really understand him is he's a performer. He's an entertainer. Okay? So when you look at him personally, you've met him. He's not the same. Is he quiet yet? Quiet. He's gentle, he's kind, he's thoughtful. All of those things in his real life. When you see that and then you see the guy on stage, you're like, what the hell happened? He's an entertainer.

He. So he knows how to work a crowd, work excitement, build up to things. You know, this is, this is going to be soon. That moment where on the apprentice and every other reality show, they play that music just long enough to be really awkward, where they're like, and you're going to be.

And you're like, okay, is he fired or is he hired? What is he. Oh, this is taking long, honey, I'm gonna go to the bathroom. If they tell the result, just shout it out for me. I'll be right back in maybe five minutes. But fired, that's the way they always do. He loves that. He loves that.

Stu
That makes more sense.

Glenn Beck
This is what he's doing.

Stu
The only reason I don't fully think it makes sense is that I don't, like, I can see doing this for some, like, if you were doing this with Marco Rubio, which there was a pitch, you know, seemingly a pitch for this as well, a month or two ago, where, like, Rubio, you could see there's a certain constituency that, that he matches, that you might want to send a signal. I really, I super much, I considered this very closely, but wound up going another direction. Right. Like, you could see why he'd want to. What is the constituency you're trying to please with Doug Bergam leaks? Like, people don't even know who he is. I mean, people criticized McCain for picking Sarah Palin. Like, what is, what is the difference here? He's in the Times profile, pitched as the safe candidate. What has he proven? He's never been tested on any stage whatsoever. He might be great.

Glenn Beck
I don't know.

Stu
The one time I've seen him in public during the debates, he was really boring in a giant zero. Right. Like, that has been his profile. And Trump kind of likes that profile. I think. I think that's something he's, he likes because he's the center of attention. So I think that makes sense.

Glenn Beck
I mean, Mike Pence, you look at Mike Pence and you're like, oh, the boring guy as vice president. That's not why Mike Pence was selected. Mike Pence was selected to make sure that a guy who says two chronicles rocking down the street one day.

Stu
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
You know what I mean?

Stu
I forgot about.

Glenn Beck
He was selected. He was selected to a constituency.

Stu
Yes, yes. What is the Bergam constituency? The only one you can even come close to is like a conventional republican chamber of commerce type of person that maybe he feels some weakness with among republican voters.

Glenn Beck
There's nobody more exciting to republican voters or really any voters than the chamber of commerce kind of guy.

Stu
But, like, I know. And if you want that, if you really think that's a weakness, and maybe they do, then you go Tim Scott. Right? Like Tim Scott. You're getting that. Plus you're getting the african american vote. Like, you're getting the identity politics.

Glenn Beck
Again, I will be shocked and he will have a good reason for it.

But I will be shocked if, if Doug Bergam, I, if it's Trump Bergam, I just, I will be shocked to.

Stu
I, it's, it's a, it would be a stunningly strange pick, and I don't like. Bergam's record as a governor is.

Glenn Beck
Oh, is that what he was?

Stu
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
Right.

Seriously, he was governor in 2016.

Stu
Look at the difference between the pitch on Palin and Bergam. And is there much of a difference? I mean, both of them had similarly decent records as governor of a big, of a big state. In Palin's case, at least, it was by large, by landmass.

But they both had good economic records. Like, you can make arguments that they were decent governors.

Totally unknown on the stage don't seem to give you any constituency whatsoever. At least with Palin, there's an argument, you know, the female vote. I don't even what is the argument for Doug Bergam?

Glenn Beck
Okay, I have a good, I actually have a good argument. I don't think this is why, but I actually have a really good argument for Doug Bergam.

Stu
Does it have to do with eyebrows? That's usually what you say.

Glenn Beck
No, I'm sincere of it this way.

Stu
Okay.

Glenn Beck
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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. So we're talking about Bergamot and Doug Bergam maybe being Donald Trump's pick for vice president. I don't think that's true. I think this is, Donald Trump's a showman, and he's a very good showman. And I think he's just, this is a mislead.

It's a red herring. But if you want an honest reason why he could be a good choice.

Back in the eighties, early nineties maybe, when the Apple II, the Apple IIc came out, a guy came into Doug's office. He was just an entrepreneur, and I can't remember what he was doing. Maybe ranching. And the guy brought in his Apple IIC and said, look, you've just spent all day working on these numbers. Watch. He put all the numbers in, came up with the same answer that Doug had, and he was like this fantastic. So he, that's what got him deciding to, to write software. And so he wrote and grew a giant Silicon Valley company out of North Dakota. So he has the expertise in a startup, but more importantly, b, programming computers.

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Glenn Beck
Well, how do I know that it's America and that we're still, we haven't slipped through a wormhole? We're still in the America we were in for the last eight or nine years.

Well, I know that because we've dismissed another longstanding tradition in America.

Joe Biden has discussed potentially negotiating a unilateral deal with Hamas to free more Us hostages.

So back in the old America, you know, that we grew up in, don't recognize this one anymore. We used to say the US doesn't negotiate with hostages, but apparently now we're going to because the cost was just too high. I've never seen anything like this. I've never seen anything like this where they go in and they rescue hostages and the whole world cares about the hostage takers, not the hostages in my life. Again, another thing, we're just backing away from the norm.

We have our national correspondent for the blaze. He's coming up in just a second. He was there this weekend when they surrounded the White House and started to destroy things. Include.

You know, one of my favorite things was throwing things at the park police.

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Julio Rosas, welcome to the program. How are you?

Julio Rosas
I'm doing good, sir. How are you?

Glenn Beck
Good. So you are our national correspondent, one of our national correspondents for the blaze, and you covered what happened at the White House. Can you just describe the scene and what you saw?

Julio Rosas
So this was the third major anti Israel march to kind of take place in DC.

And it was very, it was very large. I mean, the park police estimated at a tide, there's around 9000 people, which was significant because the fraternal order of police for the, for the park's law enforcement, they said that only 71 officers were assigned to patrol that their jurisdiction, which is Lafayette Square, right across the street from the White House. And so that's why when they, the crowd started to vandalize the Rochambeau statue, the Lafayette statue, the few park police did try to arrest people, but because they were so outnumbered, that person was able to get away. And those officers, along with secret service, were basically chased out at the park. And after that, the protesters had just basically complete control of the area because the police were either just on the boundaries of the Lafayette square or they were behind the reinforced fence that was set up for this protest.

Glenn Beck
Why were there only, what did you say 71 officers, 71 for 9000 people?

Julio Rosas
Yes.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. Why? And why weren't they.

Why weren't they more prepared? Why? You know, I've heard that they weren't allowed to. The park police weren't allowed to really even defend themselves.

Julio Rosas
So that's kind of the question that I'm actually going to be digging into for, for us at blaze because.

Yeah, it doesn't make, it doesn't make sense.

The FoP did say that there's a big staffing shortage within the parks, parks police.

But the thing that's disturbing for me, from what I hear, is that they weren't even allowed to wear riot gear.

The command staff did not allow them to do that. And I could tell you that would have come in pretty handy a couple of times. But because they were in their normal patrol uniforms, they were definitely susceptible more to anything that this crowd could have gotten violent. And the reason why it didn't get overtly violent is just because the police had to remove themselves from the area.

And so that is kind of a question.

Glenn Beck
Let me play devil's advocate.

Is it because they knew if they showed up in riot gear, there would be riots and then the police would end up being seen beating these people, et cetera, et cetera?

Julio Rosas
Probably. I mean, this is just kind of the same continuation of how leadership within blue cities approach far left protesters where they don't want to be seen as racist or I guess in this case, islamophobic. And so they're going to allow them to just kind of do what they want, and so therefore they don't get kind of the quote unquote bad publicity, even though in most cases it is the protesters or rioters that make the first move that cause police to respond. It's not a way around.

Glenn Beck
Correct.

Julio Rosas
But so, yeah, they're just beholden to the radical ideology of, like, well, we can't be seen as racist or islamophobic, so therefore we're going to put our own people in danger to try to appease the mobile.

Glenn Beck
So they were also holding, you know, like a bloody head of Joe Biden.

Did you hear any violent threats or anything?

Julio Rosas
Yeah, they were, you know, when I've been covering the, this wave of anti Israel protests since October 8.

Glenn Beck
Right.

Julio Rosas
So the day after October 7, and this was within the US, this was the most overtly supportive protests of Hamas.

There were signs saying that they support Hamas. There were a lot of people who were wearing the Hamas headbands, like the same exact style that they wear over.

Glenn Beck
In Gaza and the green jihad. The green jihad one. Or the black and white scarf?

Julio Rosas
No, the green. The green headband. The green headband.

Glenn Beck
Oh, my gosh.

Julio Rosas
And that's significant because prior to that, again, in the US, they mainly use euphemisms of, oh, we support the resistance, or we support the fighters and the martyrs.

But because Israel is continuing to make gains against Hamas and continues to win, the people here are going to become more and more radicalized and more and more willing to escalate their tactics. And so that's why I just can't stress this enough, that seeing that was very concerning, because step one is to be supportive of a terrorist group, and then step two is possibly commit x to show solidarity.

Glenn Beck
Tom Cotton said he was going to bring legislation to the table or a bill to the table to find out why these people weren't treated like the people on January 6 were treated.

I mean, we know who, we know they can find out who these people are, but there's not going to be any, there's not going to be any trouble for these people. Do you believe?

Julio Rosas
Well, the reason why it's going to be hard is just because there's no effort on the federal law enforcement part to try to do anything about it. I mean, step one is to investigate, and on the outside, it appears that there's no investigation at all being done into exactly clamping down on these things. That's why, you know, like I said, the past two times, anytime that any of the vandalism or the attacks on the White House happened after the sun went down, so when it was dark, but the vandalism started in broad daylight, I mean, these, and, you know, they have no problem being filmed. I mean, sure, they might have their faces covered, but they have no problem being filmed while they're out doing this. And they do it because they know that there's no repercussions, there's going to be no effort to try to track them down. And so that's why it's not surprising that this happened. And that's why it's not going to be surprising when things get out of hand at the DNC in Chicago later this summer, because they know that the street organizers, they know that they have that power, because the Democrats are afraid of them, essentially.

Glenn Beck
Did you see any organizers, any labor union signs, signs printed by labor unions? Because I know protesters really care to make sure that they have the unions print those signs or any money groups represented there.

Julio Rosas
I mean, this was all organized by the palestinian youth movement. That's a big organization that's been organizing pretty much almost all of the disruptive protests across the country. Also, the answer coalition, the anti, anti war, anti, quote unquote, racism.

Glenn Beck
So, I mean, at the beginning of the Gulf War or the Iraq war, I think, yeah.

Julio Rosas
So, I mean, these are all code pink. Code pink was there. Classic, you know, of course.

Glenn Beck
So, I mean, they were there, and those guys are really dangerous. Those are the guys who organized the flotilla. Do you remember when they, the flotilla and they started climbing on the israeli ships and I think that's what it was. And the Israelis had to go down and take some of them out.

You remember that? That was probably 15 years ago. Maybe not.

Julio Rosas
I do not recall.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. Okay, so code pink was there. Who else?

Julio Rosas
The PSL something, socialist liberation movement or something like that.

It was just kind of a hodgepodge of your, you know, as much as, I mean, they were busing people in from all over the country. I mean, they, people came as far as Detroit, as far as New York that were seemingly bankrolled by the palestinian youth movement, by the answer coalition.

So, I mean, this is as common. These are backed by big groups that have the money to be able to do, to put these things on. And, and, you know, and they, they know that there's very big segments of that group that are extremely radicalized, but they don't, they don't care. I mean, they don't care. They're more than fine with them going crazy. And, I mean, they wrote, they wrote death to America and kill pigs on the Lafayette statue.

I mean, they also desecrated the Andrew Jackson statue that's also right there, Lafayette Square. So, I mean, they have free range. They have free range and they know it. They know the power that they have, and that's what makes them dangerous.

Glenn Beck
So what do you think the political calculation is here? I mean, by not doing anything to these people, this doesn't, I don't think it helps the administration look good. I mean, people don't want to live in a world like this, and they certainly don't like it when they hear, you know, kill the Jews and all of the stuff that these people are for and supporting Hamas. So I can't understand the political calculation. Is it that what, that they can help cause chaos and that's good? What, what, what is it?

Julio Rosas
It's just the Biden administration trying to appease the Kama swing of the Democrat parties. But it's very idiotic. It is very idiotic because they're not, they're not going to vote for him anyway, because any, any move that he makes now to try to, you know, appeal to them, they rightfully are going to think that, oh, it's just an election move. It's just, it's a purely political move to try to win our votes, which, which, again, is not smart because it's not going to work. I even, I even saw signs and stickers against the humanitarian peer that the administration authorized into Gaza. So even, you know, that millions of dollars, boondoggle, it's not even working to try to get their votes back. I mean, because they think it's idiotic as well. So it doesn't matter what he, what Biden does, he's going to make a large portion of his base very, very upset. And I think I just, you know, they don't know what they're doing. I mean, they made this whole idea of all the adults are back in charge, you know, don't worry, Trump is gone, instability is back. But as we've seen, that's completely, that's completely untrue.

So I don't, I, they're trying to, you know, appeal to them by saying, okay, like, we can do this, you can do that, but it's always people who are not going to be with him anymore. So I don't know why they continue to do that, but they don't know what they're doing. Plain simple.

Glenn Beck
Julio, thank you so much. I appreciate it. National correspondent for the blaze, Julio Rosos, who is covering all of these palestinian riots. That's what it is.

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That's a problem.

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The United States got involved with a war in Germany, and then we dropped a bomb on two cities in Japan.

And then they learn all about the bomb and why it was so wrong for us to do it. Well, sure, it sounds horrible if you don't know the history.

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Boy, Stu, I missed a lot last week.

You sure did. Holy cow.

Stu
Yes.

There's never a shortage. Do you remember the days when we used to do the show and, like, be searching through the news trying to find something to talk about?

Yeah, those days are long gone.

Glenn Beck
Long gone. Now we can't get to most stories every day.

I was on, you know, vacation. I was in the, the Czech Republic, and I came back and I saw the Fauci, you know, yesterday. Just tried to go through all the big news. I watched all the testimony from the Fauci thing. That was absolutely incredible.

I mean.

Stu
Yeah, that's a, oh, my gosh.

It was, it was, it was tough to watch, I think, for a lot of people. And there's that, there's also, I would love to get your reaction at some point today on the, on the coverage of the Israel freeing their hostages.

Glenn Beck
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Apparently it's a bad, let me just say, let me just say this about the Fauci thing.

Their plan is to throw his, you know, executive assistant or whoever that lying liar was, they're going to throw him under the bus and in hopes that Fauci will be left alone. We cannot allow that to happen. That guy was instrumental and belongs in jail, but so does Anthony Fauci and the rest of them. Peter Daszak, jail.

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Wow.

The hostages, at least four of them.

The hostages have been rescued from two different locations during an operation that happened Saturday. During the day, the medical condition is normal, I guess. Hamas run Ministry of Health in Gaza said at least 274 Palestinians were killed and more than 400 injured in the operation. Gaza ministry doesn't differentiate between fighters and civilians. So, yeah. Spokesperson for the military put the fewer of the figure, fewer than 100.

You know, what I really liked is the fact that the. All the reports start coming out about how bad it was for Hamas.

Dozens of injured people are lying on the ground and medical teams are trying to save them with the simple medical capabilities that they have. Said the Gaza health ministry, you know what you shouldn't have done? You shouldn't have built the. The headquarters for Hamas underneath your hospital. You know, might. Might. Might have worked out a little better for you and your people. You know?

Stu
Do you think Glenn is there and this is not? I don't. I've never been in this situation, so I don't know. But, like, is there a path to avoid bombings that includes not taking hostages? Is there something about taking the hostages that leads to this?

These.

Glenn Beck
No, those are totally. Those are totally separated. Totally separate. Two different.

Stu
Okay.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. You're talking apples and eggs, so totally different eggs.

Stu
Okay.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. Yeah.

Stu
Okay. I just want to make sure at some level, it almost feels like when you take hostages and you torture them and you keep them against their will and do all these horrible things, that might actually be the reason why the. The. Is there any.

I don't know if it's tight.

Glenn Beck
No. No. Apples and eggs. And I say that because oranges, like apples, come from a tree and then you could trace their roots down, but you can't. You can't compare that to something that comes right out of the butt of a chicken.

And I think that's what this is, is these guys. You know, the other thing is you don't want civilians hurt, then don't keep your hostages at civilian homes.

You want us to believe that all the Gazans are also oppressed and they just don't like Hamas, and they're. Then where? Why are you holding them at people's houses, by the way? In one case, enslaving them.

This, I think it was a doctor, and gosh darn it, he was killed. But he took.

He took one woman and enslaved her at his house, made her. Forced her to take care of the house and everything else, which is, you know, a better fate than honestly what I think a lot of them would get. But I'm not giving them credit for this. I am giving them credit now to add slavery to the list.

However he was killed, she. She apparently was in the house. The IDF broke through the door.

She thought it was Hamas. She freaked out, just froze. And they said, where were the IDF? She didn't believe them. And then one of them came up to her and said, ma'am, we have to get you out of here. May I throw you over my shoulder? And she started crying because she knew it's not a moss. And he threw over his shoulder and got her out.

And yet they're the bad guys somehow or another. I don't get that. I really like the comment that I saw in the news that Israel should have given Hamas some warning that they were coming in.

Yeah, yeah, me too. Me, too. Me too.

Stu
That always works out well. The element of surprise when you tell people about it is always a good part of that.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. I thought it was. Honestly, I thought it was unfair on D Day that we, you know, Hitler slept through it. We didn't call him up and say, hey, in a couple of hours, we're coming over. You might want to prepare. We didn't give him any notice, you know?

Stu
Yeah. And it's weird because. Just because we have many, many in reports and such about how, what Hamas directive is when if someone comes from the IDF or Israel decides to come for these hostages, shoot the hostages in the head.

It would be interesting why we wouldn't give them a heads up to say, hey, like, you need to get these people shot before we get there, or you're not going to be living up to your bargain with Hamas.

Glenn Beck
Right, right. Letting Hamas down, so. Mm hmm, mm hmm. And you know what also is interesting is, you know, we didn't give the heads up in D Day. And nobody says that's wrong.

But then we did give the Japanese ten days notice about the bomb and named the cities that we were gonna drop it in, and we still get blamed for that one. What? I mean, I don't.

I'm trying to understand. It seems like it doesn't matter what you do.

Stu
Again, I don't.

Just, like with the whole thing we were talking about earlier, I don't have any internal knowledge here, but it almost seems like. Seems like when Americans or Jews are involved, that side always gets blamed, no matter what the circumstances are. I can't possibly be that simple.

Glenn Beck
Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Especially the Jews, when the Jews are involved. By the way, I was in the Czech Republic, and do you remember the documentary I did on Kurt Garon, the movie actor from Germany who was jewish?

He thought he was going to survive it, but he had been making fun of Hitler and the Nazis for, like, five years before they came to power. Oh, no, not really. And he was forced to make this propaganda film at this concentration camp that they had in this city.

And it looked fantastic. I mean, everybody who was anybody in the Jewish. You know, the. The scholars, the scientists, the, you know, orchestral players, et cetera, et cetera. All the people that the german people might know, they were all sent to this one city in Czechoslovakia. It happened to be. I didn't even know it when I went. It's right outside of Prague.

And it is terrifying. Absolutely terrifying. It's a city. It's not like a concentration camp. It's like this beautiful little idyllic city.

But if you know what they used it for, you're like, oh, my gosh, this is creepy. And people still live there. They moved in afterwards, and it's. It's almost. You'd like it, Stu, because you and I are fascinated by things like Chernobyl.

Stu
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
You know, that have this horrible history, and then they're just vacated. For a long time, people just started living back in this city, and it's. It's really, really weird. But one thing I noticed is that we're doing a lot of the same things that they were doing back then, which is, you know, a little bit disturbing.

Stu
Disconcerting.

Speaker B
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, a little bit, by the way. So we apparently provided support for the raid.

Do you believe that?

Stu
Normally, I would say yes.

Yeah. Like, that's, like, my main role. Like, that would be the thing, especially considering Americans were at stake. American lives are at stake with the hostages as well. You'd think we. It would be the main focus of our country, right? Now. Right. Like, to make sure that we get our hostages back.

I don't know. Now it's so strange because I don't understand. Biden seems to be very, very, like, back and forth on this, where he will sometimes say things that I think are actually pretty good, and then, and then he'll completely reverse himself as soon as Ilan Omar says something.

I don't, I don't necessarily believe that we helped, but also, I don't know why we would communicate that to the media either if we didn't help. It doesn't seem like, what, here's this message Biden wants to send, and here's the bigger thing.

Glenn Beck
Would Israel take our help for something like this one leak and it would have been all over? One leak?

Stu
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
Would you trust you're going to bring the United States military and intel into that world and trust them to keep their mouths quiet? No way.

Stu
Yeah.

Glenn Beck
I don't believe it, because even if I think it is, I think Israel said that, um, you know, to, you know, kind of keep up the pretense that we're all in this together. But I would be shocked if it was the administration that said, yeah, you know, let's do this together and let's keep it quiet. And it kept quiet.

Stu
I mean, it's possible, like, we gave some guidance as to where we thought they were, maybe some surveillance that supported the operation that. But not. You're right. I think as far as telling them when it was going to happen, I mean, just think of, like, every, like, schlocky intern that works for the Biden administration. I thought they'd get all that good stuff. But there's so many of these advisors that are so anti Israel. Even if you believe Biden is an old school Democrat and has some friendliness to Israel, still, even if you buy that, you buy that he's, you know, Chuck Schumer, 1997, if you want to believe that, or actually Joe Biden, 1997. He's changed so many times, but, like, if you believe that, that maybe you'd think he'd still be in favor of this. But, like, you can't trust any of the people around him. I mean, they're, they're all, like, 28 year old bloggers.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, I know. And the intel agency, which is, you know, hand in hand now with the State Department, none of those people want to do anything for Israel. There's, there's. I just, I would find it.

I would find it irresponsible on Israel's part to include anyone in the Biden administration.

Into their plans other than, hey, would you help us do some surveillance from, you know, satellite surveillance?

Sure. When? Well, we just started the operation about 15 minutes ago.

And here's what we'd like you to surveil. You know what I mean? Because that's the way some countries will do that with their allies. We start a war, we start something, and we'll call them up just as we're launching the war, so there's nothing they can do to stop it or hurt it.

Stu
Yeah. And of course, that would be certainly a main concern of Israel. We'll say, Glenn, have you ever seen another example that I couldn't come up with on, off the top of my head? But the other example in history where when you have an operation, a wartime operation to free hostages, that the, the side that freed the hostages is the one getting the criticism.

Glenn Beck
I know.

Stu
I can't think of another example ever. Like, you mentioned the camps. Like, you know, we killed a lot of innocent Germans in our efforts to free the camps. Right? Like, a lot of them, you know, maybe more than we actually freed. That was never. That's something that we make movies about to honor the memory of those efforts. You don't criticize the army that's going in there and freeing the hostages.

Immediately after this, it was like, four hostages freed. But the Gazan said 200 people were killed. Like, we're supposed to compare those numbers and be like, oh, well, 200 is more than four. And the Gazan said it, so we should believe it. Like what?

Glenn Beck
Right? And even if it is true. Even if it is true, by the way, you were keeping those four in the homes of regular people.

You're the one putting them in danger. You're the ones that built the. The infrastructure underneath the hospital. You. You did it because you like human shields. That that's. That's why there's, that's why they're there.

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Alex Jones has agreed to liquidate his assets. That's to pay Sandy Hook family, families, and it's going to end his ownership of Infowars.

He made this announcement, I believe, over the weekend. And Alex Jones is joining me for the first time on this program in just a few minutes. So stand by for that.

This is one of the greatest miscarriages of justice. I mean, he was wrong to say this about Sandy Hook. He was just wrong.

And he even says that now. He was wrong. It was a mistake. Shouldn't have said it.

And, you know, you want to get some damages, okay. I mean, really.

But $1.5 billion was this guy Exxon one, $1.5 billion. And CNN was like, well, well, maybe now the people are going to get paid.

You think Infowars is worth 1.5 billion? His share in it? $1.5 billion? No, no, it's, this is just, this is a warning.

What did they do to Donald Trump? They took him to, they took him to jail.

They won him in prison. They did everything they could. Now, Alex Jones made it easy for them on this. But. But do you think that was a fair judgment? Yeah, he was guilty of saying those things. He even admits it and admits that it was wrong. But $1.5 billion, come on, it's laughable.

Stu
It's obviously $1.5 billion is laughable. But, like, even the idea of him having a paint, like a payment at all, like, I they say they defame. They. He defamed them. I guess he brought on some guests that said stuff. But, like, the harassment that went to the people involved, and there was real harassment that went to these families. It was disgusting.

The people who had these kids that were murdered, it was disgusting, the harassment they received. But unless you have Alex Jones on the phone making those calls, it wasn't him.

Glenn Beck
Right?

Stu
Like, the harassment is the crime. The people who committed the harassment are the criminals.

And instead they're charging a guy who talked about it a couple times on his stupid show. Like, why?

Glenn Beck
Because.

Because they know. That's the same reason why, you know, Sarah Palin targeted and was responsible for Gabby Giffords. It. It plays only one way. He's responsible for all the horrific thing, but they're not responsible for anybody being killed or harassed. If you're for Donald Trump, no, the media had no role in you being harassed if you're for Donald Trump, none whatsoever.

Speaker B
The Glenn Beck program.

Glenn Beck
Have no room to compromise.

Stu
We gotta stand together.

Glenn Beck
It's a new day. I turn around.

Speaker B
Welcome to the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Glenn Beck
And Hannah, you sick freak, welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

This weekend I read that Alex Jones is having to divest himself of infowars, or at least his share in it. I don't know what that exactly means. He also said that the feds were going to seize it if he didn't do something.

I read that yesterday. We wanted to have Alex Jones on. We have a podcast planned in September. So I want to kind of keep this narrow here on what's going on with him, because I think this is.

I think this is.

He was the guy the left tried law fair out on, you know, the, the early days of boycott. Cheryl Atkinson said that trying to get somebody off a network in mainstream media, they tried to perfect that on me. I was their, their first real guinea pig. Alex Jones was the first guinea pig in law fair. And it is exactly the same thing that's happening to Donald Trump now.

This is, this is the way they're going to fight in the future. And if anybody thinks, you know, whatever you think of Alex Jones, what he said, he's apologized for it. He said he shouldn't do it. Their damages, I don't know, but certainly not 1.5 billion. What is doctor evil? Was he in the jury box? What the hell is that? $1.5 billion. We talked to Alex Jones about his situation. In 60 seconds, Americans are trying to get their finances in order. And a lot of them are worried about what's going to happen to them if the economy continues to go down the dumpster. Well, it, it is. You might be one of those people worried. That's a really scary time, especially if you're trying to play catch up with debt. But if you're a homeowner, chances are pretty good american financing knows how to get you to that place of security. You need to look at your spending, your financing. Better yet, you've probably already done that. Let american financing do that for you. They're helping people just like you get out from underneath that debt burden and start realize they're realizing significant sales savings. They never charge any upfront or hidden fees. It's just one of the reasons why they have 7200 Google reviews and a 4.7 star rating. Call american financing today. See if you might be the next person they can help save their house or save their financial situation. Don't take my word on it. Do your own homework. Call them American Financing, 809 0624 080-090-6244 it's amazing. Americanfinancing.net nmls 182334 nmlsconsumerccess.org dot apr for rates in the five starts at 6.799% for well qualified borrowers.

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There has been probably most of the last 20 years that neither one of us would have ever expected these words to be uttered. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Alex Jones.

Speaker B
Glenn, thank you so much. And I just want to be clarified.

Glenn, I'm here. Do you hear me?

Glenn Beck
Yes, I do. I do.

Speaker B
Okay, great. Sorry, glitch there. Glenn. I just want to clarify things for folks here because this is very important. What you just said is totally true. The Democratic Party has gone CNN and MSNBC and even the Wall Street Journal and said six years ago, we're going to destroy Alex Jones and we're done with them. We're going to go after the rest of all the conservatives. And then when they won these kangaroo cases where I was found in default by the judges in Austin, Texas, and in Connecticut, they're just as bad as DC or New York, they said, we want him off the air. This isn't about money. And I want to be 100% clear.

I've apologized to you for things when I was younger and dumber that I said were wrong, but I didn't say them on purpose. And in hindsight, it turns out you were right. And I've been saying that now for about five, six years because I've grown a lot. I'm older, I've experienced more. So when I'm wrong, I will admit I'm wrong. But just to be completely clear, they bragged after they won these fake cases in the New York Times that Trump had won. They were panicked. They hired the Democratic Party, went in and looked at my record and said, we want to tie this to Trump and demonize Trump with this guy. That's how it first started with Hillary, actually, during the end of the campaign in 2016.

So they dredged up a few comments out of context, hired a PR firm, democratic party, did this is all admitted, ran stories everywhere, saying I was currently doing things that I never even did. 99% of it wasn't true.

Then filed lawsuits on me, then came after me, then defaulted me, then had show trials. Look this up, folks. And they actually asked for 2.76 trillion. I know that doesn't sound real. Just type in Alex Jones.

2.76 trillion and you will pull up Bloomberg, AP, all of it. That's the GDP of India. Now, they did that to terrorize and scare everybody away. They got up in front of the juries. I was allowed to defend myself. It was a trial on damages. The juries were told I was guilty. This is on national tv.

And said, this man made $400 million off these people. And they introduced 22 minutes of evidence. That's how much I talked about him, 22 minutes. It was almost all 5678 years old at the time. It's now been eleven years. So I wasn't able to defend myself.

And then after the show trials were won, they had the PR firm brag how they did the whole thing and confirmed that they had the head of the FBI in Connecticut going back now, right when Trump won in 2016, went names, names. Alderberg, he testified on standard this Connecticut. He went to the law firms, the democratic party that Senator Blumenthal runs on record and where his family works and that he admittedly runs. And they developed this whole plan. Then they took all the news coverage of me supposedly attacking all these people and went and showed them this and made all this hype up. And I was saying then, no, I think this happened. I barely ever covered it. You know, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. I didn't understand what was happening with time. So when I'm wrong, I will admit it, I've been wrong plenty.

Glenn Beck
But now, yeah, so, Alex, we've both been wrong. And I appreciate, I appreciate you coming on the program. I appreciate the things that you've said.

And I just, I am.

I think this is one of the most ridiculous. I do remember it was $2.7 trillion. And that was so laughable. So the 1.5 was that the negotiated down from another court.

Speaker B
There's so many facts here. That is in Connecticut, in Texas, they just said, give us enough money to shut him down. It's all on video, national tv, HBO has it. Okay, so that was all on record. They just said, give us money. So the Texas gave him $45 million. Okay. Then in Connecticut they get up and say, give us this much money for every time, you know, he got a link or a click period. For all the media I ever covered. Then when the judgment came back at 1.5 billion by the jury, we're talking $90 million, $120 million. And people never said their names. Always said the name of one of the Sandy Hook family people one time. Under law, you can't sue somebody if you haven't said their name. But they didn't care about that here. I said the name of one guy. So people got over $100 million, $120 million, $90 million who had never said their name. 1.5 billion. That wasn't enough. Then after the verdict, at a later meeting about damages on attorneys fees, they wanted on top of it, they asked the judge for over $2 trillion. And that was in the New York Times, AP, Reuters, Bloomberg, I do remember they actually did it. So, so, so now moving on, you're asking what just happened. So I am up here at the office on Friday, last Friday, not this Friday, but last Friday. So about 910 days ago, it's about 05:00 I'm gonna leave. And I hired many, many years ago, like seven, eight years ago, an arms, highly rated security company. And there's normally two armed guards here in, in the building. You know that you guys have that too.

It's just a good safety thing. Bonded carry guns, everything. And they walk in my car and all that stuff, bare minimum. Sometimes they drive home with me or sometimes they follow me while I'm getting harassed by crazy. It happens to me by this big. And so I almost had to see more guards and I went, what's, what's going on?

And they. So then I made phone calls.

They said, well, something's happening at night at 09:00 they won't tell us. So I make phone calls and my lawyers had just heard the court appointed CRO, that's the chief restructuring officer. It turns out it's a big super leftist and would tell the crew I shouldn't be on air and stuff. The guy the court appointed. And so I'm not blaming the judge. It's out of a random bag. The guy that appointed literally tells my crew I shouldn't be allowed to be on air, I should be arrested. All this stuff, once he's in, once he's working here.

So he's in basic control of hiring and firing and money and stuff. But I'm in control and can veto it. And if I veto it, he's got to go to the court. So I didn't learn. They're going to lock the doors, change the code keys, turn all our cards off, all our clickers off at 09:00 p.m. i'm not given a chance to get my stuff out, anything. So I call my lawyers, and they said, no, you're right. Under an LLC, that's how I set this up originally. You are the sole member. He cannot do that. So they send me the documents. I go show the security firm, the head of it, who lives here in Austin Thompson, looks at, he says, you're right. I can't shut the sound without a court order. They tell the CRO, no.

He then says, I don't care, do it. And so I knew something was up, so I slept here. Next day, he tries it again. So I go on air. Now, imagine how desperate, without a court order, he's trying to shut this down because, as you said, they're planning something big with Trump and America in the next few weeks, the next few months. I don't know.

Glenn Beck
Oh, yeah.

Speaker B
Don't want. They don't want us on there. This is not Alex Jones. I'm not that important.

Glenn Beck
No, this is all of us, Alex. I know this is all of us. We are all. And if anybody on the left thinks that you're ever going to be able to disagree with them, just read history of any country this has ever happened to, you useful idiot. This is. This is about every single voice currently that is saying, there's a problem here with this administration and there's a problem with way the country is going, we're leaving the constitution quickly. Anybody who is saying that now your voice is in danger in the next six months.

Speaker B
Exactly. And imagine, because I'm now I'm smart, now that I'm 50, I'm a lot smarter than I used to be. God, I. You learn to get smarter as you're older. I instantly said, this is not about me. This is about taking us down, and this is about shutting everybody else down. So then they first, they deny it and say, it's not true. Classic gaslighting. Then on Monday, two days later, they have an emergency filing and I have the AP headlines all here in front of me.

Sandy Hook family. There's always the families. No, they're fine. They've been used. No, the people behind it here is apartment judge rejects call to immediately shut down Alex Jones infowars and bankruptcy disputes. So now we know what happened. The CRO outside of a judge's order now talking to the committee, because the judge appointed a committee of these people over him gives the order for this to happen outside of law. They're so desperate, for whatever crazy reason, they, without a judge's order, try this. Then they deny it Saturday and Sunday in the news and say the same lawyers that are former federal prosecutors say Jones has staged a false event. It actually says in the articles, Jones is the crisis actor. He made all this up. But then they shift gears again, totally panic.

Filing court on Monday.

By the way, I might be a mean, the security company. I have footage of all this. I documented it all. I have the documents. It turns out they, they were trying to file a document a few days before that, but didn't with the judge. He didn't sign it. So they tried it anyways, thinking possessions, nine tenths to law, go ahead and lock him out of the building. So then I talked to my lawyers, talk to outside lawyers. They go, listen, the judge on the 14th, this Friday is going to said, you guys are not acting in good faith to them. He's going to hand me the company back.

And I guess that's what panicked them.

But then I talked to my lawyers. They said, it doesn't matter. Judge Gwerk gamble, the total leftist, literally used to have like blue antifa hair. Just a few years ago before she put into power, she is going to shut you down. And they were in the news bragging, don't worry, when it goes to state court, we'll get a receiver. And so, so I was going to be shut down sometime next week. So I said, fine, I will file for liquidation, which I'm already in personally, my own personal bankruptcy. I will go ahead and file in this. So it's, at least it'll keep it in federal court and at least it'll be orderly because I had like a, in my opinion, a crew of pirates trying to board me. I thought I was living in, you know, the famous novel Treasure island or something. I mean, this was like being charged at the fort and Treasure island.

And so to me, what would make Justice Department people who admit they're involved with this committee. I mean, Glenn, most bankruptcies, maybe one out of 10,000. They said the Justice Department's involved. When I had depositions in my personal bankruptcy, they would have two Justice Department lawyers there the whole time staring at me. They would hand me documents with us law saying, if you say one thing wrong, you're being charged. You understand? Well, of course I've said not one thing wrong. And the thing is, I've never run my finances. I've had cpas and outside accounting firms. I don't touch the money. My wife pays the bills. I'm not that type of guy. So they are really screwed because they said he's got hundreds of millions of stolen money all over the news. They testified up there in the fake trials. We know he's got 200 million, 300 million, 400 million. I had none of that.

Never had. I've not made personally.

They did. The math in my entire history is they didn't just go back five years or ten years. They went back 1515 years. I'd made $55 million that I'd kept. Okay. Okay, great.

So it was never about the money. Could have made a lot more. I put it in the operation to advertise and everything. So they thought they would catch me in something. And when they. But guess what? They had the IR's audit me for two years. Guess what the IR's did last year? They gave me a $4.2 million, $4.3 million check and said, congratulations. This almost never happens. You're one of the cleanest people we've ever seen. And I got a cat. But that went into the bankruptcy and into the lawyers. So, Glenn, this is an absolute beyond kangaroo trial. This is. This is like being conked on the head and being drug off to be, you know, roasted at the stake by pygmies or something. These people are wild eyed. They're out of their minds. And I don't know. Again, I'm scared for the country, because if the Justice Department, pulling the strings here, was willing to literally violate a judge's order and shut us down, why were they doing that? Glenn, you're smarter than me. Seriously. What do you think?

Glenn Beck
They clearly need people to be silent. On what? At whatever is coming this fall.

That's wrong.

Speaker B
No, that's it.

Glenn Beck
Hold on. Just hold on just a second. For just a second. Let me. Let me take a quick break, and then we'll come back. Our conversation with Alex Jones on what the latest is he is having now to either give up his shares or sell them, or I don't know. I still haven't, I still haven't pinpointed what his plan is now and what they're, what they're trying to force him to do, which is just shut up, go away, and have no way to earn any money. Who wins in that scenario anyway? Let me talk to you about Preborn. Hard to believe that this month, marks, marks two years since Roe versus Wade was overturned. We still celebrate that decision, but at the same time with the good came a lot of bad. The number of abortions actually increased after this went down last year. They were at their highest since 2012. There's still a lot of work that Preborn and all of us have to do. Preborn is the largest pro life organization in the country, and they are leading the charge to put an end to the atrocity of abortion every day. They sponsor, through you, free ultrasounds for women, as well as providing help for up to two years after the baby is born. When a mom sees her unborn child on that monitor, when she hears the heartbeat, she's twice as likely to consider choosing life for her baby. $28 sponsors one ultrasound will you help? 140 helps rescue five babies. If you can do $28 a month, that's the price of two of you going to McDonald's. And it worth saving. Two babies give now. Just donate by going to, by dialing pound 250.

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So, Alex, what is going to happen now? Because I read that you were having to sell your assets, but if you sell, there's nothing left. And who's going to buy? Honestly? Infowars without you is nothing. You are the asset of Infowars.

What? What do you have?

Are they forcing you to sell all of this stuff?

Speaker B
Yes. And thanks for letting me give you the backstory so it makes sense. What I told you exactly what's happening. As usual, you cut right hard. Okay. I'm an LLC, sole proprietorship.

And so I own 100% of the shares of the company. That's why under law, the CRO could not just shut this place down. That's illegal. And so that's what my lawyers have told them. So I agreed to pay 55 million over ten years, which is projected what extra revenue there would be. But they said, no, we want a board and we want to control what he says. This was in meetings we had, but I couldn't talk about it until outside of mediation, they now told my lawyers this a few weeks ago, right to their faces. My lawyer said, you can talk about it now. We can't believe it. They want you to start by not talking about the second amendment. And there's another thing. So they wanted me to sell out. And so they told Reuters.

They told Reuters the most accurate story out there. Some of it's wrong, but it's still pretty much true. The headline is, Sandy Hook families agree to Alex Jones bankruptcy liquidation. Well, they'd already filed for that. And then in the article, they say, while liquidation will yield only a fraction of the money he owes the families, they objected to his proposal because it would have kept him in control of both Infowars and his wealth for years, while also capping the total amount he would be paid towards the defamation claim. So they refused. And it goes on that they wanted to have a board control this place that they appointed where I would work with them. And then, of course, if I played ball, then, of course, I could make money. Well, so, so. So, Mike, my operations been taken over.

For whatever reason, they decided to try to shut it down eight days ago outside of court, which is totally insane because they feel like, well, this guy is, you know, a target. It's open season. Do what we want. And then now they're so panicked to get me off the air for whatever's coming to the rest of the country. And so that's what's happening. So what's going to go down is the judge will either give it back to me Friday, and then they'll just come with the state and shut it down in a week, probably, or quicker, because Austin's as bad as, again, New York or DC, one of the worst jurisdictions the country. I am going to move out of here, even though my family's from here since the start of Texas.

Glenn Beck
Austin is awful.

Speaker B
It is. It is the judge. It's all woke. Soros controls the DA on record. He controls all the jobs because they're elected. It's totally controlled. So. So Infowars will.

Glenn Beck
So I had to guess. Hold on, hold on just a second. I'm sorry to do this to you, Alex, but I got to take another network break back with Alex Jones to see where he's headed next, what his options are, and where the country is headed because of all this. Make no mistake, what they did to Trump, they first tried on Alex Jones, and they will do anything to silence anyone that has impact.

Speaker B
Beck.

Glenn Beck
You could lie literally, to everyone you come into contact with every day, including the person that you see in the mirror every morning and say that you really, really enjoy living in pain. My father used to always say, when I'd say, how are you feeling, daddy? So I'm getting better every day. He never was. He was just trying to convince himself that he was, you know, stopped him from whining, I guess, which was, you know, good. But all of us kids knew that he was lying to himself.

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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program for the the first time I've asked Alex Jones to come on the program.

I know Stu heard inklings of this last week and did probably about 20 minutes of tremendous defense of you, Alex, on this whole case being just nothing but just a show trial. That's all it is. What they did to Donald Trump. They first tried out on you and they're still going for it. So I don't understand how a judge could suggest that we violate your first amendment right by forcing you not to talk about the Second Amendment.

I don't know how that's even possible.

But is this something that they suggested will stop demanding the billion dollars, billion and a half dollars if you let us control what you say and don't say yes.

Speaker B
Before I got sued. Now, six years ago, I was in DC for meetings and I'll have private meetings. I've met with some of the builder park group members, some major billionaires I'm sure you got reached out to bomb as well when you were exposing Soros and trailblazing on Fox where they targeted you, and they literally would beat around the bush and say, well, this major billionaire, richest man, the world at the time.

You want to give me $50 million a year for a free speech foundation, you still do your show. If you'll just talk to us about, you know, cleaning up what you do. And it was so all thinly veiled payoffs. And then when I didn't do it, that's, that's. That's when they cooked all this up. And of course, a project Veritas spin off group called an FBI slash CIA agent. It's all admitted, bragging how they engineered all this. And then again, even in the Sandy Hook show trial case, they got the FBI agent up 195 million dollars from me. I never said his name, didn't know who he was till he sued me. And he said the reason he was suing was one person called his office to see he was real at one time. But he admitted that he basically helped organize, organize all of this. So, as we said before went to break, this is all about targeting american people. But even in Connecticut and Texas, this is all on tv. It's all on the record.

The lawyers for the cases that all work for high power democratic party law firms, the same ones showing you on Musk right now, they went on tv at press conferences. When they won, the judge already said they won. But after they had a show trial, never send Alex Jones money.

Don't buy his products. We don't want money. We want to shut him down. And so they made good on this. The judge is appointed by Trump. He's just following the law. They won't settle.

So they have this judgment. And so he said he would just kick it back into state court, which they'll just instantly grab my operations, or they've got to settle. And they've now just admitted in the newspapers, we don't want money.

He's a bad person. We want him off air. They're so arrogant. I mean, it's just like we've seen AOC and a bunch of other Democrats last month say we've got to keep Trump in court so he can't campaign.

It's an ankle bracelet.

So they're so panicked, but also a mix of hubris at the same time, that they're admitting what they're doing. That's what's so crazy. So basically, Alex, they can't.

Glenn Beck
They, they can't. I mean, maybe they can.

They can't hold a judgment that you have no way to ever pay nobody, no individual, you know, unless you're. Bill Gates is paying $1.5 billion in a judgment, especially this one.

And I contend that no matter what. I mean, Bill Gates could have been on, you know, pedophile island on tv doing whatever he was doing, and he still wouldn't have to pay 1.5 billion for that. And I'm obviously not saying that he was doing anything on Pedophile island. I'm just making that as an example. Anyway, so they can't keep, they can't force you to not make any money at what you do for a living, can they, for the rest of your life?

Speaker B
Well, no, you're totally right. They're showing they don't want money. But let me just explain this quickly. Like one week after they won the fake show trial where the judge already said I was guilty in Connecticut, she issued an order to seize all my assets, even stuff under the Texas constitution, like my house, that was protected and immediately ordered me to, quote, bring all my property and my deeds to Connecticut or face imprisonment. That's why I had to file bankruptcy, hoping that the federal courts would be better. So the last two years I've been battling theirs. And then they got so desperate, eight, nine days ago, two Fridays ago, to literally have the, the federally appointed CRO close the building and kick me out. So. So that's the level of this. And that's why I go back to this, Glenn, this is totally desperate. You're absolutely right. They beta tested getting people off networks with you. They bragged about it. They beta tested law fair against me for Trump. Now they're beta testing just grabbing stuff outside of law.

That's, this is just as Trump has said a thousand times, they're not trying to get me, they're trying to get through me to get to you. And that's what I'm saying. I am. I am a canary in the coal mine. They pick me because of a big audience, but I'm also flamboyant. And I've been on there 30 years, and you can dredge up some stuff and make me look nuts because I have said thanks when I was just joking around or whatever, being a jerk, that I'm a different guy. This taught me a lot. Even before this, I was, I was already clean up. I. I'm like a totally different gray haired dude who just tries to do a professional show. And these people are so wild eyed, they don't care. So I appreciate you standing up for the First Amendment. You know, I don't know where I'll be. I haven't entertained other jobs. I've tried to save this, but I feel like I have a family member that's on desk bed. People could find me at real Alex Jones on X. And, and, you know, they've said they're going to hunt me down and try to shut me down no matter where I go. But the law is very clear in Texas, and federally, I'll be able to work for somebody in the future. But with this billion and a half dollar fake judgment, I won't be able to ever own a company, which is fine with me. But here's the larger issue. We still have appeals at the state of Texas and Connecticut, and even part of the judge's ruling taking the law license of my lawyer, who did a good job as a famous First Amendment lawyer, Norm Pattis, that the circuit Court of Appeals overturned her, her suspension of his law license.

So people are starting to wake up. Mark. Mark Twain said a lot. It was halfway around the world before the truth puts its pants on. But once the truth puts its pants on, it tends to win and catch up. So people are getting this danger now, and we can just get Trump in and we can just not let them stage a race war and all this stuff they're trying to cook up. If conservatives can just pray and be focused and be vocal and just move forward and stay nonviolent in the face of mostly peaceful summer.

Glenn Beck
Yeah.

Speaker B
We're going to take this country back. We have to.

Glenn Beck
Yes. It's already happening in Europe. Alex, one thing I want you to look, have your lawyer look into a case, Disney against digital.

Not digital, angel. It was, it became angel Studios. What was that, what was that thing called, Stu, where you could angel watch it? Vid angel. Look for a court case against Vidangel and Disney.

They said that they were going after vid angel over copyright, but they weren't. They were going after them.

It was a personal vendetta. A lot like this. They, Disney was going to put these people out of business forever. And the court appointed a restructuring because Disney won. And the guy who came in said, and one of you is lying. Either Disney is lying and they just want to put you out of business and they just want total control, or you're lying. But when I find out which one it is, I'm going back to the judge. And the judge ruled against Disney and changed everything. Okay, you, you could prove. Just look at that case. Because I think if you have somebody who is intent as you're restructuring, their job is to not put you out of business. Their job is to restructure and get their clients or their people. They're supposed to be working for money.

If this, if their intent is to shut you up, I bet you the Disney versus Vidangel court case may help you.

Speaker B
That's why I love listening to your show. That's why I love being here, Glenn, because I would never have thought of that. My lawyers, one of my lawyers did, did basically file something a year. And Abigail to the judge saying, look, here's the video clips, here's the links where they say they don't want money. They're here to shut him down. And the judge said, I'll hear that later, but I think it's time to add Disney versus vid angel with that. We have them saying, we have like 20 minutes of them in the courthouse in front of a huge, again, do that same saying, we, this is not about money. We want him off the air. Well, boom, there you go. That's genius. Thank you so much, Glenn.

Glenn Beck
Yeah, thank you, Alex. And we're going to sit down for a longer conversation when I get back to Texas in September. So I appreciate it. Thank you so much. God bless.

Speaker B
Thank you so much, Glenn. God bless you.

Glenn Beck
You bet. By the way, I would. And look, I stood for Bill Maher when he was fired at ABC. And what I said at the time was, what part of politically incorrect ABC do you not understand?

They fired him because he said something politically incorrect. I took a lot of heat. It was new in my career, and people didn't trust me as a conservative then. And I started sticking up for Bill Maher and I took a lot of heat. But it was right because it's about the First Amendment. I did the same thing for Roseanne Barr. I did the same thing for, what was his name? James Gunn, the guy who was the writer director of guardians of the Galaxy.

You cannot only stand up for the people you agree with. You must stand up for those people you disagree with. With. Otherwise, the First Amendment, second, all of the amendments mean nothing.

I don't care what you think of Alex Jones, and I say this to every conservative outlet.

You should stand by the case of Alec Alex Jones to make sure this injustice, because this is lawfare. And if you think they won't do it to you, you are sadly mistaken. And unless each one of us at each of our own locations stand up and say, this is an injustice, this is wrong, they'll put each one of us out of business and silence us, and it'll happen faster than you can imagine.

I challenge every podcaster, every radio broadcaster to stand up and defend the right for a man to be able to speak.

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Speaker B
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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're glad you're here, by the way, let me just mention this again today, because I want you to be able to get them before anybody else does. But our good friend Tucker Carlson is announcing, I think, today at 10:00 a.m. tomorrow, tickets will be on sale. He's doing a big tour. He's going to be speaking to Russell Brand in Phoenix, Megyn Kelly in Kansas City, Kid Rock someplace in Michigan.

And then on Saturday, September 7, he's going to be in Salt Lake City, and I will be his guest in Salt Lake City.

If you want to go to any of these shows, you can get tickets by going to Ticketmaster and use the promo code.

I think it's Glenn Beck, isn't it?

That would make sense. Promo code, Glenn Beck.

And you'll get your tickets before anybody else gets them. They go on sale tomorrow, officially at 10:00 a.m. again, that's Saturday, September 7.

Tucker and I always have fascinating conversations.

Just love it because we're both push and pull at the same time, you know?

And so we're going to be, we're going to be talking September 7, Salt Lake City, at the Delta center.

So I don't know if he knows how many seats the Delta center holds.

Stu
But a lot of NBA games go on there.

Yeah, it's pretty big.

Glenn Beck
I'm just a guess yes. That'll be a great shot. All right. Yeah, it will. It will.

All right. Was there anything else that we didn't get a chance to cover here still?

Stu
We still haven't.

Let's see, there was a couple of things I had outlined here that I thought maybe. Let me see if I, if I can find the couple of the interesting ones that are on the shorter side. Because, like, we were talking, you were, we were having an off air conversation about conversions. Is that.

Pat and I the other day talked about the Russell brand conversion.

Glenn Beck
Right.

Stu
Like he's kind of seen the light, as it were. And you wonder about whether that conversion is real. Right. Because it's like, it's awfully convenient, right. That you have this moment of conversion where when something really terrible happens to you, you can find.

Glenn Beck
Who knows? Do you know anyone who is like, you know what, my life is, is sweet. I got all of the answers. I'm great.

I think I should. I think I should join a church.

You're not searching for God, you know, nobody's dying in my family, but I suddenly just think I should pray to God. I mean, that's. I mean, it's usually a prerequisite for soul searching, to be a little unhappy about something.

Stu
Yeah, I'd say that's true. Which is why I'd be interested in your take on the, the John Fetterman conversion, because, yes, he went through health problems and I don't know, is number one, is it a conversion at all? And number two, do you, do you buy it from Federman?

Glenn Beck
Speaker one, I don't know. I did read it this weekend and thought, I'd like to talk to John Federer. I'd like to do a podcast with him or have him on the show, because I like to find that answer out.

I mean, he's still, you know, very heavily progressive, but he might have let go of some of the more extreme things like, hey, let's kill all the Jews, which I welcome.

Stu
I don't know that he ever had that particular opinion.

He's been really good on Israel, though. Really good.

Glenn Beck
He's really good on Israel. He's really good on Israel.

I'm not one to judge somebody's either conversion or attempt to convert and change their life, because it happens. And, you know, people don't take people like that seriously, but a lot of times they are, and they have big changes of heart and we should give them the opportunity to be the person that they want to be. Because if they're not, that, you'll find out quickly. You know, you spot a fraud quickly.

We'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker B
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