Primary Topic
This episode delves into the controversial reactions Donald Trump received at a Libertarian convention and his ongoing fabrications about crowd sizes.
Episode Summary
Main Takeaways
- Donald Trump's Memorial Day message was self-centered, ignoring traditional themes of honor and remembrance.
- Trump was visibly discomforted by the negative reception at the Libertarian convention, indicative of his fading support in some conservative circles.
- The episode reveals Republican inconsistencies in supporting the military, juxtaposing claimed support with actions that contradict those statements.
- Discussions on Texas political strategies to limit Democratic influence expose ongoing efforts to manipulate electoral outcomes through structural changes.
- Pakman emphasizes the importance of fair voting systems and challenges the justifications for the Electoral College, advocating for a national popular vote.
Episode Chapters
1: Memorial Day Message
David Pakman critiques Donald Trump's Memorial Day message, which focused on personal attacks and legal grievances rather than honoring military sacrifices. This chapter sets the tone for the episode's exploration of Trump's character and political maneuverings. David Pakman: "Trump's Memorial Day message completely sidesteps traditional themes of honor and remembrance, focusing instead on personal grievances and legal troubles."
2: Libertarian Convention Booing
Pakman describes Trump's experience at the Libertarian convention, where his suggestion to be nominated was met with boos, showcasing his divisive nature even among conservative groups. David Pakman: "Trump's suggestion to the Libertarian party that they nominate him was met with boos, indicating his polarizing presence even among other conservatives."
3: Texas Voting Amendments
This chapter discusses the Republican efforts in Texas to amend voting laws in a way that could disenfranchise Democratic voters, highlighting broader themes of electoral manipulation. David Pakman: "Republicans in Texas are considering amendments that would require statewide office candidates to win a majority of counties, effectively disenfranchising Democratic voters."
Actionable Advice
- Stay Informed on Voting Rights: Learn about local and national efforts to change voting laws and engage in community discussions or protests to defend fair voting practices.
- Fact-Check Political Claims: Regularly verify political claims, especially those related to elections and candidate support, to combat misinformation.
- Support Veterans: Advocate for and support policies that genuinely benefit veterans, particularly those related to health care and mental health services.
- Engage in Civil Discussions: Foster respectful and informed discussions on political topics with people from various political backgrounds to promote understanding and challenge misinformation.
- Participate in Elections: Engage in all levels of the electoral process to ensure that your voice is heard and to counteract efforts to undermine electoral fairness.
About This Episode
-- On the Show:
-- A deranged Memorial Day message from failed former President Donald Trump reminds us that neither he nor Republicans truly "support the troops"
-- A Republican amendment in Texas would effectively stop Democrats from being able to win any state-wide election
-- Failed former President Donald Trump is brutally booed at the Libertarian Convention, and heckled so badly that he starts to glitch
-- A completely staged crowd in Bronx, New York shows up to hear the rantings of a madman in the form of a Donald Trump speech, and right wing media fall for it
-- Republican candidate Royce White says that women have become "too mouthy" as he attempts to unseat Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar
-- A confused and disoriented Donald Trump salutes during a rendition of Amazing Grace, and salutes airplanes
-- Donald Trump brags about his "beautiful relationship" with brutal dictator Kim Jong Un during a would-be softball interview with Tim Pool
-- Donald Trump pretends that a NASCAR crowd is cheering for him when in reality they can barely see him
-- Voicemail called can't believe anyone is dumb enough to believe the conspiracy theory that Biden planned to kill Trump through use of force during the Mar-a-Lago search warrant
-- On the Bonus Show: Libertarians nominate Chase Oliver spurning Trump and RFK Jr, government sues Ticketmaster, evaluating whether paper books or e-readers are better for the climate, much more...
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Donald Trump, John McCain, Joe Biden
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Transcript
David Pakman
I hope everybody had a good Memorial day yesterday. President Joe Biden spent the day not only with the widow of his late son, Beau Biden, but also in a reflaying ceremony and speaking about the sacrifice that so many members of the american military have made. And I was reflecting on Memorial Day yesterday. You know, there was a point sometime in history where the american right wing did a pretty good job of convincing us that they had a monopoly on patriotism and on supporting the troops and on being so called pro military. But it's been a very long time since I stupidly fell for that, which is very much untrue. The first exhibit, of course, is failed. Former President Donald Trump's Memorial Day message was, as you can imagine, was completely deranged and unhinged. But it serves as an entry point into the conversation I want to have about the american military. Donald Trump posting yesterday to his platform, truth, social truth Central, quote, happy Memorial Day to all, including the human scum that is working so hard to destroy our once great country. And to the radical left, Trump hating federal judge in New York that presided over, get this, two separate trials that awarded a woman who I never met before a quick handshake at a celebrity event 25 years ago doesn't count. $91 million for, quote, defamation. This, this is Trump's Memorial Day message. She didn't know when the so called event took place, sometime in the nineties, never filed a police report, didn't have to produce the dress that she threatened me with.
It showed negative and sung my praises in the first half of her CNN interview with Alison Cooper, but changed her tune in the second half. Gee, I wonder why. Under appeal, the rape charge was dropped by a jury. Or Arthur Engaron, the New York state wacko judge who fined me under $500 million under appeal for doing nothing wrong, used a statute that has never been used before, gave me no jury. Mar a Lago at 18 million. Now, for merchant, that is crazy. That is Trump's Memorial Day message. And as you can see, there is nothing in there about recognizing that even for Trump, he was able to get out of serving because of that stupid note about his feet, in part because we had so many others who were willing to serve, or at least accepted their conscriptions, which, by the way, the draft was a disaster. Vietnam was a disaster. But the point here is Trump wants to act like he is the alpha tough guy who will do what needs to be done and what the government. And then, no, that's absolutely not the case now, I started to suspect more than 20 years ago that Republicans have a very disgusting definition of what it means to support the troops. When I was coming of age and starting to see the beating of the war drums towards the war in Iraq over something perpetrated primarily by Saudis, 911, I started to see this reflexive, reflexive reaction. Don't you support the troops? Well, yeah, I support the troops. That's why I want to keep them out of harm's way in stupid wars. No, you support the troops by saying George W. Bush is a patriot for taking out Saddam and starting this war.
That's not supporting the troops. So support the troops for a while meant you support the mission blindly and unquestioningly. And then, of course, we have so many of these other examples of how they claim this monopoly on patriotism and military support, but it means nothing. Trump saying that these are suckers and losers. As we heard from his former chief of staff, John Kelly. Trump describing avoiding an STD during sexual activity, his quote, Vietnam. You might remember when Trump said he always wanted a purple Heart, and it's certainly easier to get one from a veteran like he did.
Donald Trump
And he said, that's my real Purple Heart. I have such confidence in you.
And I said, man, that's like, that's like big stuff.
I always wanted to get the Purple Heart.
This was much easier.
David Pakman
There you go. As you can see, reverence for those who have served and sacrificed. Trump would regularly make fun of the late senator John McCain, who, of course, was tortured as a prisoner of war as a result, couldn't lift his arms above a certain height. Trump once said he prefers war heroes who don't get captured. A disgusting commentary. And then here he is saying, oh, McCain was unable to lift his arms.
Donald Trump
Obamacare is a catastrophe. Nobody talks about it. You know, without John McCain, we would have had it done. But John McCain, for some reason, couldn't get his arm up that day. Remember, he goes that like that. That was the end of that.
David Pakman
And of course, there's always some plausible deniability. Oh, no. All Donald Trump meant is he was, he voted down instead of up. But we all know about John McCain's injury, and it's absolutely disgusting thing to do. So that's Trump. But then you zoom out and it applies to Republicans more broadly, funding to get proper health care to veterans and to returning troops. Now, they don't want that. The VA, some of the Republicans want to do away with the VA because it's a form of socialized health care.
Voted against expanding health care benefits for toxic exposed veterans. We just spoke last week about the million approved claims under Biden's law for taking care of veterans exposed to toxicity or their families if the veterans have passed away. Republicans voted against that. They spent months, remember Tommy Tuberville, months blocking military promotions which by their standards threatening threaten the military. If we don't have a fully staffed military with everybody promoted where they are needed, we are weaker, national security suffers. This is according to them. And yet they were totally comfortable holding up military promotions over. I'm now even struggling to remember. I think it was related to abortion. So they really don't support the troops. What it means to support the troops, what it means to patriotically be there for these people who say, hey, you know what? I'm going to choose to serve such that we don't need a draft. This is separate from whether you love the military engagements of the US around the world. Most of them I don't is we take care of those who choose to serve by giving them health care when they come back. And by the way, we should do that for everybody. It's not just members of the military. We make sure that when there are health issues that relate to their service, whether it's physical or mental health issues, look at the suicide epidemic amongst returning members of the military. We properly fund that. We never use military action unless it is absolutely necessary to preserve national security.
We don't say, hey, you know what?
Iraq didn't attack us, but I really don't like Saddam and my dad wasn't able to get rid of him. This is George W. Bush speaking for George Hw Bush. So I think we'll go to Iraq. I don't know, even though they had nothing to do with 911 whatsoever, none of that is. That is not supporting the troops. So a memorial day reminder of the disgusting way in which the right claims this monopoly on supporting the troops and respecting the military. And it is really very, very much the opposite. Texas Republicans are considering an amendment which would prevent Democrats from winning any state election in Texas. Listen to this.
Republicans are considering in. Republicans in Texas are considering a number of amendments that they voted on, and we're awaiting results on one of which would require any candidate for statewide office to win a majority of the counties in Texas. 254 counties in Texas. The reality, of course, is that this would make it absolutely impossible for Democrats to win in Texas. Because when Democrats win in Texas, they're not winning a majority of the land area, they're winning certain high population counties. So if you say, hey, there's 254 counties, in order to win, you need to get half plus one, which I guess would be 128 counties. If you win the popular vote in Texas in a statewide office, but you did not win 128 counties, then you don't get to actually hold that office. This basically means Democrats can't win.
Republicans, as many of you probably suspect, dominate most of the sparsely populated rural counties. So by the number of counties in Texas, Republicans have a massive advantage. Now, it is true that on a population basis, Texas is much more split. It's still a red state, but occasionally Democrats can win, and certainly there are races in which Democrats do have a shot at winning. But the idea here is that you are going to allow Texas to be controlled by the barely populated red counties on the map, even more so than it already is to a degree. Now, you might be saying, David, that that can't possibly be legal, can it?
There is controversy over whether this is legal. And indeed, your instinct that it may not be legal makes a lot of sense, because if you violate the principle of one person, one vote, if you violate the principles of the Voting Rights act, then whatever you're trying to do may indeed be illegal. Now, what, what is interesting to talk about is that what Texas wants to do here, which is to say, regardless of the popular vote in Texas, if you don't win at least half the counties, you don't get to hold office.
It's the similar problem that we've identified with the national Electoral College. I've been an advocate of a national popular vote for a very long time. Now, if you think about the concept, concept of one person, one vote, the electoral College gives smaller states proportionally more power on a votes per capita basis than larger states. It gives, therefore, the individual voter of Wyoming more power than the individual voter of North Carolina. In a sense, it is not one person, one vote. Now, I'll give you the math of it in a moment, but we already see this in practice. Presidential candidates focus their campaigns on the swing states, where you have an uncertain outcome. Now, I know Trump is lying and saying we're going to win New Jersey and New York. He's not going to win New Jersey or New York. He doesn't know what's going on. He's been spending a lot of time in a courthouse in New York. So he's been doing rallies geographically nearby. But there's really no sense to either candidate, quite frankly, going and doing rallies in California or Connecticut or places that are skewed very much one way or the other. This is why they go to Wisconsin and they go to Georgia and they go to Michigan and states that are potentially going to go one way or the other. So you have a predictable majority in certain places, and then you focus just on these few spots. So now let's get back to the math of it. How is it that if you get one vote in Wyoming, it's worth more than if you get one vote in North Carolina?
Isn't it just one vote either way? And the answer is very much not because of the electoral college. Let's see. I'm going to challenge myself to see if I can explain this clearly. Wyoming has three electoral votes. Okay. North Carolina has 16 electoral votes. Three in Wyoming, 16 in North Carolina. The population of Wyoming is 581,000, whereas the population of North Carolina is just under 11 million. So if we say how many electoral votes per person are there in Wyoming, it's 5.2 times ten to the negative 6th power. Forget about times ten to the negative six, because both of these are times ten to the negative six. Okay, so in Wyoming, each voter controls 5.2 times ten to the negative 6th power votes.
In North Carolina, with 16 electoral votes and nearly 11 million people, each vote is worth 1.5 rather than 5.2. So, again, forget about times ten to the negative six, we zero them out. 5.2 is your vote power in Wyoming, and 1.5 is your vote power in North Carolina in terms of the population relative to the electoral vote. So a vote in Wyoming has 3.5 times the influence as a single vote in North Carolina, that is not one person, one vote. By the way, if you look, you know, they love to talk about, well, look at California, 55 electoral votes. On a population adjusted basis, your vote is worth the least in California, followed by Texas, Florida and New York, very high population states. So I would love one person, one vote. The way to actually get to one person, one vote is no more electoral college. And what Texas is considering, what Texas Republicans are considering in light of this amendment that they have going, is essentially doing the same thing we've done nationally, which is get away from one person, one vote and get into this. Well, yes, everybody gets one vote, but you've got to win half the counties, and if not, you don't win. I can't imagine that this is legal. Legal scholars are leaning towards it's not legal. Let's see what happens with the vote. And. And these people are desperate, okay? They see what's happening in Texas, which is not in 2024, probably not in 2028, but things are definitely changing demographically in Texas, and political orientation is also changing.
And they are terrified. So what can they do? They say, hey, let's give the empty rural counties more power by requiring every candidate for statewide office to win a majority of the counties. It's disgusting. They are deperate. It's probably illegal and let's hope it doesn't go any further. Let's take a super quick break. By the way, if you missed or didn't get the email yesterday morning with the one day Memorial Day membership special, the email did go out.
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Donald Trump
I did everything right and they indicted me.
David Pakman
It's all about me when you are Trump. This did not go well. This is brutal to watch Trump sweatier than ever. It's flop sweat because he's being booed and his followers are spinning it like, oh, it was great. It was great. Take a listen to this.
Donald Trump
The libertarian party should nominate Trump for president of the United States. Whoa, that's nice.
That's nice.
Only if you want to win.
Only if you want to win. Maybe you don't want to win.
Maybe you don't want to win.
David Pakman
Absolutely.
Mercilessly booed. Mercilessly booed. Trump tried to turn it around on them by saying, listen, if you want to win, instead of getting your stupid 3%, you should nominate me. And it became extremely contentious. Trump sweating and getting he, he went from orange to red. This is the downside to painting yourself in the orange face paint, which is when you start to flop sweat because the crowd is rejecting you, you get bright red, and then that's really a problem for Trump.
Donald Trump
That's nice.
That's nice.
Only if you want to win.
Only if you want to win. Maybe you don't want to win.
Maybe you don't want to win.
Thank you, D Roy.
Thank you. No, only do that if you want to win. If you want to lose. Don't do that.
Keep getting you 3% every four years.
David Pakman
Hey, he's absolutely right, by the way. I mean, listen, I don't know that they win if they nominate Trump. I don't think you can be nominated within two parties at one. I mean, it's all crazy, but Trump's right. Like, hey, okay, keep getting your stupid 3% every, every four years. But this was, I mean, there was nothing Trump could do to save himself. And the glitching starts in a moment. But Trump tried promising them everything, and they didn't care, and he snapped at them again.
Donald Trump
That is why I'm committing to you tonight, that I will put a libertarian in my cabinet. And also libertarian.
David Pakman
And also one in my cupboard and one under my bed in senior posts.
Donald Trump
Pretty good.
David Pakman
That's pretty big, by the way, Trump does this thing where he, he reads a speech off of a teleprompter, which, of course, anyone else who uses a teleprompter is terrible. When Barack Obama used a prompter, Trump attacked him for it. When Biden uses a prompter, he attacks him for it. Trump uses a teleprompter, but Trump reads the speech as if he's reading a news article along with the audience and finding things out. He's like, listen, if I win, I am going to put a libertarian in my cabinet. Wow, that's pretty good. Like, he's reading this teleprompter speech because he has no idea what he's even going to be saying, as if it's a news article. Despite criticizing everyone else for using teleprompters.
Donald Trump
Speaker two, you can keep going the way you have for the last long decades and get you 3% and meet again, get another 3%. Now you want to make yourself speaker one.
David Pakman
All right, so anyway, Trump, you know, listen, apparently libertarians want to nominate a libertarian. Trump is not a libertarian. He's a brutal authoritarian. That's the reality. And one of the biggest changes, we spoke about it with Fed, with Federico Finkelstein a couple of weeks ago, is an expert on this. We've spoken about it with so many others. Trump has taken the Republican Party in a dramatically authoritarian direction. Now, the Republican Party had these twinges of authoritarianism for a long time. Much of their foreign, foreign policy was authoritarian. At the end of the day, much of their social policy, no abortion and no gay marriage and no this and no books in school. It's authoritarian. But this has been taken up exponentially by MAGA Trumpism. Trump then went on his sort of victimhood tour during the speech and talked about how much he's being persecuted. And the libertarian crowd didn't like that either.
Donald Trump
Anyone can talk about defending freedom, but I've actually put everything on the line to resist these despots and these stuff.
David Pakman
Very much not convincing the crowd. And then Trump started to glitch it.
The booing was so triggering to the failed former president that the glitches began here, says Trump, says, so I'm asking for the liberate at e. Well, think of it.
Donald Trump
So I'm asking for the liberate. Well, think of it. I'm asking.
David Pakman
And there is that common shoulder glitch. Whenever he glitches, I'm thinking of the liberty, and then it's it. Then he moves on. He white flags it. A really nice little booing compilation from decoding Fox News. And this was brutal from the start to the end.
Donald Trump
It's a theft.
We believe we cannot give crooked Joe Biden four more years.
David Pakman
Anyway. It's, it's brutal. So he ends the speech, of course, taboos, and with a very good point. Let's not allow the worst president in history back in the Oval office. He's referring to Biden. He's right, though. We definitely shouldn't allow him back in the Oval office.
Donald Trump
Ladies and gentlemen, the great liberation of America begins on November 5, 2021 24. It will be the most important day.
David Pakman
In the, if you're wondering, if you're watching, by the way, and you're wondering what that is that someone is holding, that is a rubber chicken. Those were handed out. I guess during RFK junior speech, to suggest that Trump is chicken, to let RFK participate in the debate. They were supposed to be removed from the, from the room in which Trump was speaking, but a couple people held on to the rubber chickens. And here you can see, as Trump raps, someone is squeezing the rubber chicken in front of Trump.
Donald Trump
History of our country and the forgotten man and woman will be forgotten no longer. I want to thank you. I want your support. And again, you can either nominate us and put us in the position or give us your votes.
I would say nominate or give us your votes, but we want libertarian votes because you stand for what we stand for and don't waste a vote. And don't allow the worst president in the history of our country to come back and do the final destruction of America. Thank you very much, everybody. God bless you. God bless you.
David Pakman
Just thundering, thundering boos as Trump. Trump raps and listen, I agree with him. Let's not allow the worst president in the history of America to come back and destroy the country. I agree with that. So Trump and everybody around him pretending that this went really great, there are some who acknowledge that there were a lot of booze and they say, hey, listen. Trump was courageous. He went in front of a hostile crowd and he delivered his message. It was really courageous of him. Trump had no idea that this was what was going to happen. Trump didn't go to the libertarian convention thinking they're going to love me, I'm sorry. Thinking, they're not going to love me and they're going to boo me. Trump went thinking that, like with everybody else, whether it's lawyers taking his deposition or whoever he's debating or whatever, Trump went in assuming, I will manipulate them, I will charm them, I'm so smart, I'm so good, I'm such a great public speaker, they're going to love everything I say. Trump was shocked that it backfired, and that's why he was bright red with the flop sweat and looking extra confused. So that's what happened there. And almost as bad, almost as bad was Trump's completely fake event in the Bronx, which we have to talk about. Trump staged an event in the Bronx, apparently because of its physical convenience, to where Trump is sitting in criminal court. He obviously lied about the size of his crowd and right wing media fell for it. The speech was ridiculous. He brought on accused murderers to endorse him on stage.
Everything about this sounds like it would be a satirical segment for SNL, but it is real. So Trump claimed that 25,000 or more people were at the speech. The reality is they had a permit for 3500 people there. Okay? The Bronx population is 8% white. The crowd was almost entirely white, which there's nothing wrong with. There's nothing wrong with white people. But the idea was the Bronx supports Trump.
Well, the Bronx is 92% not white. And when the cameras would pan around, it was an almost exclusively all white crowd. Total stage managed propaganda. Fox fell for it. Okay. Fox put up a headline that said, Trump campaign says over 25,000 attended the Bronx rally. And Jesse Waters says that it was absolutely 25,000 or even more people who were there is loose.
Donald Trump
It was crazy. Yep, yep. I think, I think they're regretting keeping him in that Manhattan courtroom. He ends up in the Bronx with 25, 30,000 people.
David Pakman
So that's actually Ned Ryan, who's been a guest on this program, Ned Ryan saying, hey, listen, he ended up with 25 or 30,000 people there. And then, of course, that is, that is very, very much not the case. And as you can see here, I'm. Even if you're terrible at estimating the size of a crowd, there is very much not a crowd of 25,000 people there. I struggle to believe that that's even the 3500 they had a permit for. And we have another shot from further overhead that is very much, very, very much not 25,000 people. Trump, as far as the content of the speech, totally, totally deranged. Trump again, referring to the alleged criminals of January 6 as hostages. And he says that if it weren't for the rigged election, none of them would be held as hostages right now.
Donald Trump
Terrible thing to say, but I believe it. Many of the hostages that you're waiting for, and everybody's waiting for those hostages, many of them are dead. Many of them are dead.
And it's a horrible thing. It's a horrible thing. But many of those hostages are dead. And that's why when you see these negotiations where Hamas is, like, not getting back, they're saying, man, we could make a good deal, but these people are no longer alive. When I saw the way they were treated, when I saw the way they were thrown into the cars and how horribly they were treated, there's no way that those hostages and some will be alive, but many of those hostages are dead. It's a very, it's a very serious, horrible thing. It would have never happened. If the election weren't rigged, it would have never happened.
David Pakman
Now, I have to be honest, I actually am unsure here whether Trump is talking about the j six supposed hostages or he's actually talking about the Hamas and the israeli hostages held by Hamas.
None of what Trump is talking about is ever completely clear to me. But then it really got wacky. The guy who is supposedly the man of law and order brought up alleged indicted murderers sleepy hollow and Chef G. I believe these are musical artists. They were indicted last May with 30 other gang members on a 140 count criminal indictment that included a dozen shootings. Chef G recently posted. A million and a half dollar cash bond. And he's brought up and celebrated by Trump.
Wow.
Donald Trump
Oh, I like that. I want to get that done.
Speaker
President Trump, one thing I want to say, one thing I want to say.
They always gonna whisper your accomplishments and shout your failures.
Trump gonna shout the wins for all of us.
Make America great again.
David Pakman
All right, so there is Trump, apparently reveling in the spotlight of having alleged indicted murderers up on stage with him. It's all crazy considering the law and order claim that Trump makes about himself. Trump tries to talk about putting his pants on and starting to really struggle to speak here.
Donald Trump
How do you get up in the morning and put your pants on? Why do you put the pants on? I'll explain it to you someday. How do you do it? How do you get up? How do you do it?
How can you want to do with what you do? They after you. They're after you. These horrible human beings are after you all the time.
David Pakman
So there it is. Just really, really tough to do the pants in the morning. And then trump glitches on. I guess he's trying to say patriots is the word here.
Donald Trump
And it is hard working patriots.
David Pakman
And this is some patriotish lick.
It's hard working, patriot ish lick, I think he says.
Donald Trump
And it is hard working, patriotic. And this is something, you can say it and you can say it a million times.
David Pakman
All right, so again with that shoulder glitch. Really terrible glitches. He then told a Fox News interviewer at the, at the event that he is going to be winning the state of New York.
Donald Trump
You're pulling something out. I've been begging republicans, come to the black community, come to the hispanic community. More people that were here today look more like me than you.
Why did you come here today? Well, because I've done very well with the vote. I love the people. They're incredible. They're energetic, they're entrepreneurial, and they're going to save New York, and we're going to win New York. And if we win New York, the election's over. We take over the country. We take over the country. I think you're going to win. Yeah, I think we have a chance to win New York.
David Pakman
Trump says he's going to win New York. He is not going to win New York. And he tried telling the crowd basically the exact same thing.
Donald Trump
Did he? You live in a blue city, but it's going red very, very quickly.
David Pakman
It is not. New York City is not going red very, very quickly. And then lastly, Donald Trump did try bragging about the african american unemployment rate during his administration, which it turns out actually hit a lower point while Joe Biden was president. So if this is something to brag about, then it's really Biden who should be bragging.
Donald Trump
African american jobs were the best in history. Asian American the best in history, Hispanic, the best in history. Women, people with the.
David Pakman
So anyway, those numbers actually better during Joe Biden's administration. So the entire event stage managed up the wazoo.
Nonsensical lies, propaganda, media coverage. And I don't know if Trump genuinely thinks he's got a shot in New York. Maybe these events make him even think he has a shot and he's not lying when he says it. But if I were a betting man, I am not. If I were a betting man, Trump will not win New York. Trump will not win New Jersey, as he has said over the last couple of weeks. Let's take a very quick break. We'll hear from a sponsor or two and then so much more coming up.
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Do you ever feel that modern women are just getting a little too mouthy? Well, there's a republican candidate who certainly does. His name is Royce White. He's a former pro basketball player. He happens to be black, which is relevant in the sense that you'd think he would remember when it was said that, hey, you know, some of these black folks are getting a little uppity, wanting rights and respect and repeating essentially the same sort of criticism about women, these mouthy women who are saying things. Now, I'm going to say right up front, there are people who wrote to me about roast Royce White.
He's running against Amy Klobuchar in Minnesota and said, david, this guy's clearly mentally ill. You can't talk about him. He doesn't know what he's saying. He's having a psychotic event. It's just you, you know, you can't talk about him.
I hate to say this, but a lot of the modern republican party probably qualifies as mentally ill if they were to sit down to the mental health professional. But there are people voting for these people. So what we, we can't talk about them because they may be experiencing manic episodes, psychotic events. I'm going to tell you in a moment the long list of things that Royce White has said, and yes, many of them do seem like paranoid delusions. Here he is speaking to Steve Bannon. I mean, listen, if he's speaking to Bannon, we have to be able to cover the conversation with Bannon.
And here he is saying, you know, these women, they've become mouthy. Too mouthy speaker one, continuing to say.
Donald Trump
Culture issues as a code word for rube, white, rural, christian, heterosexual, male nationalist, you know, that are just focused on their wives being too, too mouthy, sir.
Speaker
Yeah, well, look, let's just be frank.
Women have become too mouthy as the black men in the room. I'll say that. I don't know whether we're talking white men or asian men or black men or so on and so forth, but, no, I'm serious. I mean, there, and there was, and the thing that is, is scary about it. And I say this, and people will.
Donald Trump
Go, oh, hold it. Can I officially say, can I officially say that joy reads black girl magic does not work with Royce White?
Speaker
We didn't.
Donald Trump
I just want to make sure. Don't, hey, don't take it from me.
Speaker
I just want, you know, you're going to send me off. You go to Joy and read, and if you're wearing a white woman's wigs, you're going to piss me off this afternoon. I'm having a beautiful day without thinking about that, that scam.
But, but what I'll say is, you know, you take, you take an operation like the Rockefeller foundation, and they're their grassroots. Fundamental support and sponsorship of the early women's rights movement and their involvement with the inception of the Federal Reserve and the ability of the Federal Reserve to tax the american working class twice with the insertion of women into the workplace. Now, I know we could look at World War two and say, hey, women had to step into the workplace because of the war. But when you look at the inception of the war, there might have been an economic incentive there as well. So, I mean, these things have a history. And the people like Joanne Reid, they're banking.
Donald Trump
Wow.
David Pakman
So not only, I mean, it's like, there's the headline about women have become too mouthy, but then there's this whole apparatus that he believes explains why it is that women have become mouthy as a result of entering the workforce, which only happened because of X, which was perpetrated, which was perpetuated by Y. This is a guy who is off the rails. This is the alternative to Amy Klobuchar. He has gravitated towards people like Alex Jones and Louis Farrakhan and Steve Bannon. He has made other outrageous statements about women. He's talked about the jewish lobby. He's attacked the LGBTQ movement.
He, I guess he liked Tulsi in 2020, Tulsi Gabbard. But now he likes Trump, and he says he's clarified. He seems to go after jews a lot, but he often will clarify. My comments about jews should only apply to so called jewish elites, not regular jews. And he wraps up stuff about the CIA with Jews and central banking with Jews.
So, listen, I don't really know how we should interpret the words of someone that many vote to me and say, david, this guy is mentally ill, and we've got to be careful because he's just paranoid, delusional.
I think that we need to look at this from a strategy standpoint.
And I don't know that for the right sustaining themselves on these sort of bigots from every racial background, I don't know that there's future success for the republican party with this sort of candidate. It's an uphill battle against Amy Klobuchar, for sure. But it's another reason to vote, right? If you're a woman who doesn't think women have become too mouthy, or if you're a man that disagrees, women have become too mouthy, then this is an opportunity to say, hey, I'm going to vote for Amy Klobuchar here. 40% of women who vote vote Republican. Why? Especially after everything we've seen with Roe v. Wade over the last several years, going all the way back to Trump winning 2016, getting three Supreme Court justices, et cetera. Now, if you like this perspective, if you like the perspective of we should make it so that government decides what medical services women can have, we should have people in power who, instead of being women, say, women have become too mouthy. There's an option for you. It's a very clear option, but know what you're voting for if and when you choose to go into the voting booth and vote for that. So there it is. Royce White, the latest unhinged MAGA type candidate, and getting the full treatment from Steve Bannon. And by the full treatment, I don't mean the dressing down.
I mean the building up as if this is a normal guy. This is not a normal candidate. Donald Trump's confusion and disorientation are getting worse and worse. Donald Trump randomly saluting all weekend, saluting during amazing grace, which, why would you salute during amazing grace? Saluting when planes flew overhead at a NASCAR event. Why would you do that? This is getting really weird. And Trump is clearly confused. Here is a rendition of amazing Grace, and Donald Trump is saluting. You'll notice he's the only person saluting because you certainly don't salute during amazing grace.
So a confused and disoriented Donald Trump. There is no history of saluting during amazing grace. In some cases, it can be considered inappropriate. Amazing grace is a hymn often performed, you know, at a reflective occasion, at a memorial or funeral or a church service. And when you salute you, you typically are saluting for the national anthem, the flag, military honors, specific military honors. There's a certain sort of connotation to saluting. And by the way, even in a military context, even within a military context, you would salute for the national anthem or the flag or when addressing a superior officer. And so if amazing grace is played even in the military context, you wouldn't salute. Trump doesn't know what the hell's going on, so he just is saluting. We don't know why. Here is Trump saluting airplanes.
This is at NASCAR and airplanes fly by and trump salutes.
Donald Trump
Yeah.
David Pakman
So again, oh, but aren't they military planes? Yes. So, you know, saluting the national anthem, saluting a flag in a very specific military memorial service, during which one of those is taking place, saluting as airplanes fly overhead. Just another example of Trump's confusion. And listen, Trump saluted a north korean general. Don't believe me? Look it up. Trump saluted a north korean general. So I guess it is. Or was it a chinese general? No, I don't remember. Trump salute randomly saluted the general of another nation in yet another one of these confused events some years ago. So not exactly the guy I turn to to determine what is the proper decorum and behavior, but just another little story in the constant confusion and disorientation that this guy is suffering. All right, let's take a very quick break. Make sure you're subscribed to the YouTube channel, by the way@YouTube.com. slash the David Pakman show. We'll pause quickly, hear from a sponsor or two, and then the show will continue.
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Hey, this is really funny. A Tim Pool scored an interview with the failed former President Donald Trump. And, you know, it's just supposed to be kind of like a softball interview. And Trump still manages to make himself look like adult, but not just a sort of benign dolt adult of the most dangerous sort, bragging about the beautiful relationship he had with brutal dictator Kim Jong un. This was a really, really strange interview, and there's a couple of moments in it that I want to check out. But Trump's continued slobbering over ruthless, brutal dictators and how he's able to get along. Why do you think you're able to get along with them, I wonder? It's because you're enamored with them and treat them like they're walking on gold.
Here is Trump talking about Kim Jong un and says, he's such a strong guy. He's the absolute leader. It's everything short of. I aspire to be Kim Jong un. I aspire to run the United States States the way Kim Jong un runs North Korea. This is chilling, chilling stuff.
Donald Trump
And all of a sudden, it boiled down to something that was very beautiful the way it happened. And I got along with him very well. And I will say that if Hillary won that race, you would have had a nuclear war and millions of people, duclear would have been killed, and you weren't even close to that. It never happened. It was never going to happen. I got along great with him, and it just never was going to happen.
Tim Pool
Were you at all scared in any way when you crossed into an enemy country?
Donald Trump
Well, I wouldn't say that secret Service was thrilled. And in those blue buildings, there were lots of people in those buildings that I looked at. You know, the two blue buildings. Oh, yeah. With the windows. And I looked in those windows, and there were a lot of things happening in those.
Someday I'll tell you about it. But, no, I felt very safe. I felt my relationship with him, as you know, was very hostile, a little rocket man and all that. But then all of a sudden, it morphed. He respected me. I respected him. And we ended up, once we got to know each other, we ended up very good. He a very smart guy, very strong guy. He's the absolute leader of that country. You know, for those that think he's not, they're wrong. And I got to know him very.
David Pakman
Everyone knows he's the absolute leader.
Donald Trump
Well, I even did a press conference. He never did a press conference before. I said, would you like to do a press conference? We did a press conference, if you remember.
And then he said, that's the end of the press conference. And boom, everybody was pretty radically thrown out. But it was a press conference. The only press conference he's ever done.
David Pakman
He loves these guys. He loves these guys. And so this is, you know, it's very popular now to, when you can't defend the facts, you attack the vision. And so an example of, I'll give you an example of what I'm alluding to last week when I was on Fox News is will cain show, and I wanted to have a very grounded conversation about what are the facts about this? What are the facts about that? And what do we know about whatever, how do we know things will dropped this? You know, you leftists used to be skeptical about institutions and government power, and now you, I'm paraphrasing, just blindly accept it. You love it. You love more, more government power. Usher it in, whatever the case may be. And oftentimes what these guys, people will try to do is when on the facts, they take an absurd, untenable position, they'll try to levy some broader critique. And so the one that is here is, we would look at this and say, hold on a second.
Kim Jong Un, Duterte, Xi Erdogan, Putin, whoever, these are brutal authoritarians.
And if our country were any more like their countries, we would be going in a direction that is completely anti american at a fundamental level. They don't want to deal with that. So they will usually retreat to things like, isn't it nice to get along with people? The left used to want to get along with people. And now all of a sudden, the left criticizes getting along with people. I got along great with Putin and Kim Jong un, and it's one of these, let's go to the 40,000 foot level, because the 500 foot level is a disaster for us. And we can more easily bamboozle people into thinking that we're obvious. Well, listen, we get along with people. What's wrong with that? Which in a vacuum, it's great to get along with people. But Trump's the one who got duped by Kim Jong un. He came back from that meeting thinking he got extraordinary concessions from Kim Jong un, when the reality is they were the same concessions every north korean leader has been making. When things get inconvenient for them for decades, none of the promises happen. The actual progress that was supposedly going to happen in the second summit was totally short circuited. It went nowhere. It ended early. And they want to go. But why don't, why don't you guys on the left used to like to get along with people. What happened to that? Abstracting themselves from the absurdity of where they are. At another moment, Tim Pool says to Donald Trump that he's the greatest president of Tim Pool's lifetime. Isn't that something?
Tim Pool
I'll be honest, I didn't vote for you in 2016.
I was jaded. Obama let me down. I'm from Chicago. I thought 2016 was silly. And then in 2020, with the timeline for getting out of Afghanistan, when you tried to get our troops out of Syria. My question is, why are we in Syria? Who even knew? And they lied to you and they lied to us about the number of troops in there. And so maybe it's a bit blunt for me to say I want to see people prosecuted for the lies of the american people. But in, for, in terms of foreign policy, perhaps is a little bit of a biased interview, but I think you're the greatest president of my lifetime.
David Pakman
It's a little bit biased. Yeah, that is true, that, hey, listen, Tim's admitting it, ok? I give him credit. It is a little biased to tell the guy you're interviewing. I believe you are the greatest president of my lifetime. Ever in my lifetime. It is a little bit of bias. Now let's see how Trump reacts to the sick of fancy.
Donald Trump
Speaker one, I appreciate it.
Tim Pool
Speaker two, and ending the wars that we should not have been involved in. Now the fear is world War three.
David Pakman
What are you looking, by the way, what war did Trump end? I don't under, I don't. What? He had a plan to get out of Afghanistan, which Joe Biden executed and Trump failed to. And then Trump criticized Biden for it, even though he could articulate no material difference. If I would have carried it out, which war did Trump end, speaker one.
Tim Pool
At when you enter your next term, to stopping the escalation?
Donald Trump
Well, first of all, I'm the only one that is going to stop World War three because this man can't put two sentences together. He doesn't know what he's doing, doesn't know where he is.
David Pakman
Right.
Donald Trump
And amazingly, it seems like he's going to be running. You know, it's a lot of people say, do you think he'll make it to the starting gate? Well, we'll see what happens. But if you look at Viktor Orban, because we don't want to see wars. I don't want to see wars. I was in no wars other than we finished a war.
David Pakman
He's again saying, look at another authoritarian strongman.
He loves Orban.
I forgot to mention or bond in the Putin, Kim Jong un, etcetera. It's always the authoritarian strongman. Quick trial, kill drug dealers with ISIS.
Donald Trump
And we completed it 100% complete. But I don't want to see wars. I think it's so horrible, so unnecessary, so costly in terms of lives and money in that order, and destroying these countries. You know, you're destroying culture. When you look at Ukraine, that would have never happened if I were president, it you look at the October 7 attack on Israel, would have never happened.
Tim Pool
Why?
I look at your policies, I see secure the borders, bring jobs back. I look at the Democrats and many Republicans, and it's foreign war and foreign expansion.
David Pakman
Honestly, I don't know of any Democrat running on foreign wars and foreign expansion. But if somebody can tell me who, I would love to evaluate it. Tim Pool asking a fair question. Are you going to stack the federal government with MAGA loyalists because that is part of project 2025.
Tim Pool
Are we going to get some good personnel in as attorney general, deputy attorney general and in the CIA and see some prosecutions?
Donald Trump
So we had some great people because our trade numbers were fantastic. The jobs we did on trade, the jobs we did, frankly, in the military, underneath the terrible television generals who were absolutely terrible. But we have incredible people. You know, we defeated ISIS and we had no new wars because they were concerned with us. We had, I had no wars at all. I finished off a war that we were in for 20 years, but we had new war, no wars.
David Pakman
Speaker one, I guess Trump is pretending he got us out of Afghanistan, which is really weird because of course he didn't. He criticized Biden for getting us out. Trump says he's considering pardoning WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. Considering. Now, honestly, this is the language Trump uses when he has no clue. He goes, yeah, maybe I'm considering it. He said at his libertarian speech. Maybe I'll pardon Ross Sulbrick, commute a sentence. I don't know, more, big one.
Tim Pool
Will you pardon Julian Assange?
Donald Trump
Well, I'm going to talk about that today, and we're going to give it very serious consideration. And we're going to have a couple of other things to say in this speech that I think you're going to love.
Tim Pool
I've heard some rumors and you've gotten.
Donald Trump
So much out of me. I should leave a little bit for the speech, don't you think?
Tim Pool
Mister President, it is an honor and a privilege.
Donald Trump
I do appreciate you sitting here and you're very respected. I have to say, when I did a little research and some of my guys said, and I've met you before, but they said, just a very respected guy. It's my honor.
David Pakman
And then last, lastly on deportation. Trump planning the largest deportation effort ever. And he says he's planning to use local police, which legally is very contentious.
Tim Pool
I know that you've said that there's going to be the largest deportation effort in your next term.
How do we do it?
Donald Trump
So millions and millions of people are coming into our country and it's not necessarily exactly what we want or had in mind. They have open borders where people just flow in. And many of those people are coming from prisons. Many of those people, frankly, are murderers and they're drug dealers and they're coming from mental institutions and they're coming from places that are not going to work very well. It's not going to be very good for our country.
We're going to start with that and we have to get them out. No country can sustain what we're going through. I believe the number is 15, 16 million, could even be 17 million people right now.
That's more than almost, that's bigger than almost all of our states.
Tim Pool
I think it's freaking out young people. Do we, how do we do it, though? I mean, is it going to be new personnel?
Donald Trump
Do we, it will really be done with local police. You know, the respect has been taken away. The honor has been taken away from our police forces. They're not allowed to do anything.
David Pakman
It will be done with local police. It's not that they aren't allowed to do anything, but there are real legal limitations on using local police, municipal and state police to enforce federal immigration law. You can deputize or involve local police for certain activities, not for others. The really important thing here is some people see this, they go, well, yeah, why isn't that being done? It's not being done because it's mostly against the law.
And that is another scary aspect to what Trump has planned. So a wild interview meant to just kind of be, I mean, like Tim says, I, he thinks Trump's the greatest president of his lifetime. It is supposed to be a softball interview, and Trump's still somehow making himself look completely clueless. All right, r1, quick thing, funny thing, before we go to the voicemail for the day, Trump went to this NASCAR race. We talked about it earlier.
There is a moment where Trump is standing there and, like, waving as if everybody's cheering for him, but nobody can even really see Trump. He's, he's like behind a building and then behind vehicles. Trump's almost completely invisible, but he is standing there waving and pumping his fist almost like the entire place, most of which can't even see him, is cheering and going absolutely wild. So my question for you on this, it's a sort of moment of zen type thing, which we're showing the audience right now. Is this Trump delusionally thinking the whole crowd is cheering for him, or does Trump realize that this is just something they're filming to then later include in some kind of political ad making it look as though the crowd is cheering for him with Trump in the NASCAR track? Let me know what you think. I don't know which one it is. It's very funny to see Trump there pumping his fist, and it's like they, they can't even, you're, you're just stuck behind all these cars and one of these modular buildings. So weird and wacky stuff at NASCAR. All right, we have a voicemail number. That number is 2192. David P. So many people are falling for this Biden plan to assassinate Trump conspiracy theory, which we already debunked. Here is a caller who just can't believe it.
Donald Trump
Speaker two hey, I'm just calling because I have a question, David.
How stupid, right?
Are half the american population that they believe that Joe Biden hired the FBI to assassinate Donald Trump when they were looking for stolen documents?
David Pakman
Right?
Donald Trump
Like, help me with this one.
David Pakman
Here's what's going on.
They found a smoking gun last week, which is that one of the pages of the search warrant for Mar a Lago included the FBI standard use of force policy which is you can use deadly force if the target of the search warrant, you know, becomes threatening to other people's livelihood. Essentially, it's totally standard and generic.
Some on the right have said this was Joe Biden's plan to get Trump killed.
The search warrant was served on a day that the FBI already knew Trump wouldn't be at Mar a Lago. They went in specifically on a day Trump wouldn't be there. So at its core, the entire thing is a total nonsense piece of conspiracy. And hilariously enough, the exact same use of force policy applied to the FBI when they went to Joe Biden's home looking for documents. And Joe Biden also wasn't there, and the FBI knew that. It's the same situation.
The FBI went to Trump's home when they knew he wasn't there. The FBI went to Biden's home when he knew he wasn't there. Both search warrants included the FBI standard use of force policy, which is if the person you're searching becomes a danger, then you can use force. The idea that Biden is going to use that, knowing that Trump isn't even going to be there to try to kill Trump, it's laughable. But here's what's crazy. Tucker Carlson and Patrick Bette David did an interview recently during which they act like that's exactly what was going on. We'll talk about that tomorrow if I can find the clip. We've got a great bonus show for you today. Get in instant access to the bonus show by signing up@joinpakman.com and remember, if you missed the Memorial Day membership discount, just email in asking for it, infoavidpakman.com and say, hey, David, give me that coupon code, please. We'll see you on the bonus show, and I'll be back tomorrow.