Primary Topic
This episode delves into the intense political climate surrounding former President Trump, with a particular focus on the media's portrayal of him and the perceived threats against his life.
Episode Summary
Main Takeaways
- The hosts argue that the media's portrayal of Trump as a villain has paradoxically increased his support.
- They discuss the potential consequences of extreme political rhetoric, including the risk of violence.
- The episode critiques mainstream media's declining influence and credibility.
- Discussion on the cultural and demographic shifts in America, criticizing the notion of 'replacement theory.'
- An examination of self-censorship and the suppression of certain viewpoints in public discourse.
Episode Chapters
1: Introduction and Sponsor Message
Brief overview of the episode's focus on media bias and political rhetoric. Dan introduces the episode with a sponsor message from Birch Gold.
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2: Media Portrayal of Trump
Discussion on how the media's negative portrayal of Trump might lead to real-world violence.
- Tucker Carlson: "They're calling him Hitler, which is a predicate to killing somebody."
- Dan Bongino: "You and I were called crazy lunatics by Daniel Arkin, an NBC News conspiracy theorist."
3: The Strength of Trump's Support
Analysis of why attacks on Trump seem to bolster his support rather than diminish it.
- Donald Trump Jr.: "I was the number two most threatened person in the United States after my father."
4: Media Bias and Public Trust
Reflections on the loss of public trust in traditional media and its consequences for political discourse.
- Tucker Carlson: "They pulled Morning Joe off the air yesterday."
5: Cultural and Demographic Discussions
A controversial discussion on demographic changes and accusations of replacement theory.
- Tucker Carlson: "It's happening all over the western world. The people whose ancestors built these countries are dying, and they're being replaced."
Actionable Advice
- Scrutinize media sources critically to form informed opinions.
- Engage in open dialogues to understand diverse perspectives.
- Support journalism that upholds integrity and balances in reporting.
- Advocate for media literacy in educational curricula.
- Encourage fact-checking and skepticism towards sensationalist news.
About This Episode
Dan, Tucker and Don Jr. Tear It Up At The RNC
People
Dan Bongino, Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump Jr.
Companies
NBC News, Comcast
Books
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Guest Name(s):
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Content Warnings:
Discussions of violence and assassination
Transcript
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Dan Bongino
I'm Dan Bongino. So, Tucker, you and I accurately, sadly, tragically, did a podcast interview a while ago on your show, which tuckercarlson.com comma. They can check out all your material. By the way, I'll be with Tucker September 11 in Tulsa if you want tickets tuckercarlson.com dot and we were talking about how the left is insane. They have no emergency brake on their behavior, and you had mentioned how, well, they didn't let him govern last time they sic the military on him. Lawfare. Well, what's the next logical step? Potential assassination? You and I were called crazy Lunatics by Daniel Arkin, an NBC News conspiracy theorists. And notably, without contacting either me nor you, they said that we presented that without evidence, despite me having mounds of evidence from actual sources, that he was in a lot of danger. Your initial thoughts on that now that you've sadly been proven right.
Tucker Carlson
I'm just using common sense as my guide because I believe in trend lines and things tend to move in recognizable patterns, and the acceleration was really obvious. I mean, this is like the central fact of history, is that things just don't appear out of nowhere.
You can predict them with some accuracy if you just pay attention to the preceding events. And so they were totally dehumanized, for instead they're calling him Hitler, which is a predicate to killing somebody. Would you kill Hitler if you could? I think most people would say yes. It'd be my moral duty to do that. Dietrich Bonhoeffer reached that conclusion right. This person is such a threat that while killing is wrong, it's justified in this case because it will save the lives of many. So they're calling Trump Hitler constantly, and then they're trying to impeach him, and then now they're trying to arrest him and put him in prison for the rest of his life. And none of it is working. He becomes stronger. You never hear anybody call Trump a racist anymore, by the way. That was the signature attack against Trump. If you were a Hebrew Indian living in the Amazon headwaters in 2016, the one thing you knew about the United States was there was a racist running for president. Now, nobody says he's a racist. Why? Because all the people he supposedly hates are voting for him. So that's, like, not working. None of this is working. In fact, it's counterproductive. Every time you attack him, he becomes stronger. This is a much recognized phenomenon.
And so where do you go next? And they're out of options. And I just made the very obvious point that this trajectory leads to assassination. Like, why is that crazy? And the last thing I'll say is that Daniel Arkin, I hope, is enjoying his health insurance because he's going to be on Cobra soon because that whole edifice is coming down because nobody believes it, therefore nobody watches it. They pulled morning Joe off the air yesterday.
Dan Bongino
Oh, he was pissed.
Tucker Carlson
They were ordered by Comcast. Comcast.
Fact, I do have a source on this. Don't air this crap because these people are crazy and it's hurting our parent company. They're lunacy. So they're literally mourning Joe is so. And he's not the worst, though. He's the most annoying, is so radical and crazy that they literally can't even air him anymore. The liberals at Comcast, what's the lifespan? Speaking of trajectory, speaking of trend lines, of NBC News, of CB's, of CNN, of the New York Times, it's like very limited. We're looking at the last moments of existence for these organizations. And so I would just say to Arkin, if he's watching, I feel so sorry for you. I don't know if you're married, but at some point you have to explain to that woman how you're not providing for her anymore because you don't have a job, because what you did was disgusting and your whole business was destroyed.
Dan Bongino
I mean, you know, don, I think to myself often, I mean, you're obviously living this. It's your father. And you're the only guy on this couch who's actually had a secret service detail. I've worked one. I've never had one. You know, you look at this guy, Dan Arkin, who writes this piece, calling me and Tucker crazies for high.
Donald Trump Jr.
Just so you know, I was in there too. Cause I agreed with you at the time. So I was also vilified and called a conspiracy theorist.
Tucker said this, I go, of course he's right. What are you talking about? Like, what world are you watching that you believe that that's an impossibility. What are you, imbecile? Of course they are. But it was crazy.
Dan Bongino
You got briefings from your agents, correct?
Donald Trump Jr.
I was. When my father was president, I was the number two. According to them, I was the number two most threatened person in the United States after my father. Because I'm vocal, I'd say that I don't back down. I push hard.
I think I've been proven right on virtually everything.
But. But yeah, I was the number two most threatened person that, you know, under the purview of the United States Secret Service.
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Dan Bongino
You know, Tucker, one of the things you and I both share, I think, in common, and don, I'm sure you agree, I don't want to leave you out of this one. But you and I, particularly, especially when we were at Fox together, is the media, the liberal media and some swampy conservative media or pseudo conservative media, whatever, they really, really get under my skin. They do. It's like a tick. And I wish they wouldn't. Cause there were times I, you know, I can't sleep at night. People say, no, there were. Sometimes I literally can't go to sleep at night. Like I have to take like a melatonin because I'll read something and I'm like, fuck these motherfuckers like, they're so stupid, right? The thing you and I nailed, I think to a t that to this day, you used to talk about it and everyone else avoided it. Was this replacement theory stuff. This was the worst media story in human history. There were literal articles, and I hate that word. It's so overused. Written in the New York Times called, we can replace them. There are hours and hours of Democrats on tape talking about demographic destiny. The demographics of the country are going to change. We're going to replace these. Joe Biden's on tape talking about how the white man. And then when we notice it, they're like that Tucker and Bonjino. Damn mother effing racist. You better fire there.
Tucker Carlson
They wrote whole books about it. And now, of course, it's true, but the hate that it displays, like, why would you want to do that? You know, why would you want to watch the people whose ancestors built the country die, mock them as they die and then replace them? I don't understand. Like, only. So, I mean, that that suggests, like, actual hate, like, homicidal hate.
I would never want something like that for anybody. And by the way, it's not just the United States. It's happening all over the western world. The people whose ancestors built these countries are dying, and they're being replaced. And it's like, why would you want to do that? There's something very heavy going on.
You know, I mean, go to Sweden, go to the UK, go to London. I mean, it's. It's shocking. And I don't at this point, care if you're not allowed to notice it or if you're racist to notice it. It's happening in Ireland. Ireland, it wasn't. Ireland was never a colonial power, like, in the United States. Like, well, you have to put up this because you were mean to Puerto Rico or something, or. You know what I mean? Or you've used too much carbon, so you have an obligation to allow all of Central Africa move to your country and give them housing vouchers. Okay? But Ireland never did anything to anybody. Ireland was oppressed by Great Britain, actually. It was never a colonial. Sat out an entire war.
No, exactly. They suffered a potato famine. So why are you doing this to the Irish? They are the indigenous population of their island, and you're watching them die and replacing them with people from the third world. On what basis are you doing that? George Soros, actually, like, what's the real answer? And you have to think that this is genocidal intent. Like, what else is it? I mean, honestly, what else is it? Oh, shut up. How about no? Cause I want to live like it's 1985 in the country that I loved, where honest questions could be asked with full confidence. You had a right to do that because you're an American. And I'm going to live that way until I die. And I don't care what they do to me. I'm gonna live like it's 1985 in my country. And I'm gonna ask a super obvious question. Why are you doing that? And why are we putting up with it? I don't think we should.
Dan Bongino
You had the greatest line ever. He did a profile, I think it was in New York or whatever. You did a long form profile with one of these.
Tucker Carlson
Never doing that again.
Dan Bongino
Yeah, it was one of these total douche canoes in, like, New Yorker or whatever. But you got a great dive in there. Yeah, I was like, man, that was really nice of him to do that. I did one too. This guy Evan Osnard or whatever. Fuck me over.
Whole bunch of bullshit. Yeah. So I wrote a hit piece on him later. I'm like, ah, fuck this guy. So in the piece, you said this great line, like, you know, once in a while you gotta throw a shit grenade in the tent. And you know what? I read that and I'm like, I know exactly what you were saying.
Tucker Carlson
No, actually, I was quoting. It wasn't me. I was quoting a deceased friend of mine called Christopher Hitchens and who I used to drink with. He never quit and died. And I did quit. But anyway, many, many years ago, he said to me, you know, my goal is not even ideological. Every day, as a matter of principle, I want to throw a grenade over the wall into asshole hq.
And I thought, I want that to be my goal.
I want to do that.
Donald Trump Jr.
I found my spirit animal.
Tucker Carlson
Yes, I did. And I really have tried.
Dan Bongino
Did you find, like, me, like, his monologues at night? They were great where they were. You know, the one thing about you is you never you. Honestly, Paula, am I right? My wife and I used to watch, like, with rap detention, right? We would sit there, we'd be like, the greatest part of it was you never knew what was coming, man. Like, regardless of the news cycle. And you'd be like, shit, I'm thinking about that different now, you know? And I think that's why you don't.
Tucker Carlson
Want to be part of the news cycle. I mean, unless.
Donald Trump Jr.
But it drove the news. It did. I mean, people, the entire next day conversation, even on social, was based around.
Dan Bongino
I'll give you a perfect model, the Arkansas governor, when Hutchinson, when he came on about the cutting, guy's nuts off, the kids balls off. And you just, you just verbally castrated him that his career will never recover from that interview, ever.
Tucker Carlson
I hope not. He ran for president anyway. And I interviewed him again at some forum in Iowa. There's a certain kind of, I don't know that they're all actually closeted, but they seem, all seem very closeted to me. Or at least they have super unhappy wives. But this very kind of weakness, male, that's just true.
It's 100% true.
Donald Trump Jr.
They're all that way.
Tucker Carlson
It's Mitch McConnell or whatever. They're all that way. And there's something about them. I think that they're, the governor of Utah is that way. It's a certain sort of man and they hate themselves so much.
And my operating rule in life is if someone hates himself, he's probably not going to love you. It's guys like that who just get off on basing themselves. That's totally cool that the word is cuck, literally.
That's not the most brilliant, by the way.
Donald Trump Jr.
It's rumble. We can say it.
Tucker Carlson
When they started telling you you weren't allowed to use the term cuck or it's okay to be white, I remember thinking like, well, why? Why can't you say that? You know what I mean? No one ever explained. It was like, shut up. That's an extremist term. I didn't even know what cucked meant. But like, the genius collective on the Internet really saw deeply into the souls of people like Mitch McConnell or that creepy the trainee Arkansas governor. And they just saw who they were. Cause it was elemental. It wasn't a political difference. It was like something inside this man was so hollow and broken and sick and diseased and self hating that it had to do with a cuckold fantasy. Like, that's totally right. I can smell it.
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