"Tricky Terrain" Full Deck Reveal - Modern Horizons 3

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Jimmy Wong
It's tricky rock a rhyme to rock. A rhyme that's right on time it's. Tricky, it's tricky tricky, tricky run DMC, duh. Classic. It's tricky.

And it is tricky today because we're doing a tricky terrain deck. Reveal everybody. What's up? Welcome to the command zone podcast. I'm one your host, Jimmy Wong.

Josh Lee Kwai
How's it? It's Josh Lee Kwai. Yeah. Modern horizons three. It's almost here.

Jimmy Wong
That's right. I can't believe we've done three modern horizons at this point. That's true. We're on the third installment. Looks pretty cool.

Josh Lee Kwai
Looks pretty crazy. This deck actually has a new theme that I don't think we've really ever seen before. I've never seen a commander deck that's built around this theme. Land types. Yeah, land types matter.

Pretty cool. Pretty, very cool. Yeah, I really like it. So before we get into it, we are gonna reveal the entire deck today. All of the new cards, there are 5015 of them.

And then we're gonna go through all the reprints, break down the reprint value, the highlights, the lowlights, and then of course we will list out the entire deck at the end and show you every card in case there's new order. And you wanna see all 100 things getting hyped. Yeah. But before we get into it, if you would like to pre order this deck or any of the other pre cons from MH three or any of the sealed products, maybe you wanna get a play booster box or collector's booster box or anything like that. Cardkingdom.com command is the best place to go to get your magic product, singles, anything at all, your magic players.

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Josh Lee Kwai
All right, let's go into the main topic here, which is the tricky terrain precon reveal. We always say this on these reveal videos, but just to reiterate, we are not going to be doing a bunch of analysis of the cards. Our job here is just to reveal what is in what you are going to get if you buy this box. Yeah, yeah. And so we will try to restrain ourselves.

We're not always good at it, but we'll do our best just so that you can look at everything that's there. So, Jimmy. Yes. Do you want to do the honors here for the face commander from. Yeah.

Jimmy Wong
So it's on the front of the box. It's also on this card is Omo, queen of Vesuva. So this is two and a simic hybrid. So a green or a blue. So you can pay two green or two and a blue to play this card.

It's a one five shapeshifter noble. It's got a lot of text. Here we go. Whenever Omo enters the battlefield or attacks, put an everything counter on each of up to one target land and up to one target creature. Each land with an everything counter on it is every land type.

In addition to its other types, each non land creature with an everything counter on it is an is every creature type. So a lot of land types. A lot of creature types. We've seen the creature types thing before with changelings. Yep.

And now the land types. There are the non basic land types, as so far are caves, deserts, gates, lairs, locusts, mine, power plant, sphere, tower, and then Urzas is also a land type. So when this enters the battlefield or the tax, you get to do up to two counters. They're called everything counters, and they either go on a up to one land or up to one creature, and then they just become changeling, basically. Changeling lands, kind of.

Yeah, changeling lands. You're right. Changeling creatures, you can also make with this. And. Yeah, spoiler alert, this precon is built mostly around the lands thing, which is cool, because we haven't really seen this before.

Josh Lee Kwai
Obviously, there are cards that care about, like, how many caves you have or how many deserts you have, or gates. There's, like, gate wind conditions. Yeah, exactly. But we haven't really had a deck that's, like, doing all of that. Yeah.

And so this is really exciting, and I think, really cool. One thing to note about Omo is that the everything counters only do their thing if Omo's on the battlefield. So if Omo dies, goes to your command zone, whatever, or even gets flickered, those everything lands are just whatever they were without the everything counter until Omo's back. Yeah, they have a fancy counter on them that does nothing. Right.

Cause, yeah, the game kinda looks and goes, what's this everything counter do? And it doesn't see anything that's telling it what to do with it. So it doesn't care until Omo's out. Yeah. Omo is the enchantment that affects the encounters, essentially, kind of.

Jimmy Wong
Some designers are going, no, don't say that. All right. The backup commander in this deck is Jyoti, maybe Moag ancient. It is two green and a blue. So four mana total for a two.

Josh Lee Kwai
Four. Legendary elemental. When it enters the battlefield, create a one one green forest dryad land creature token for each time you've cast your commander from the command zone. This game. Cool.

Jimmy Wong
So at least one. Yeah, it'll be one the first time, two the second time, obviously, at the beginning of your. Of your. Sorry. At the beginning of each combat, land creatures you control get x plus x until end of turn, where x is Jyoti's power.

Josh Lee Kwai
So it starts as two two. So at the beginning of each combat, your one one that you got comes a three. Three, at the very least will become a three three. If Jyoti gets buffed, that'll get bigger. Or if you've made more lands into creatures or land creatures in some way, then they will all get buffed, and it does it on each combat.

So that is true during your opponent's combats as well. Yeah, it's nice. It creates good blockers at the very least. You always have this three. Three sitting around.

Jimmy Wong
This is interesting. It kind of feels like not a backup commander because you want to play this in a deck that wants to cast partner commanders and all that. Yeah. And we've seen this land creature theme before, like, turn your lands into creatures or lands that are creatures. Get some sort of buff, so it's not a new thing.

Yeah, yeah. This is like awake in the woods makes a similar, I think, the exact same green forest stride land creature tokens. They do have something sickness. So they can't attack. The turn they come into play.

Right. You can tap them for mana eventually, though. Yeah, yeah. You can't tap them. The turn, they come into play either.

Josh Lee Kwai
It's like dryad armor. It's kind of cool, though. If you've cast your commander twice and then you cast Omo, then you're kind of getting the mana back because you're paying two extra and you get two land creatures because it's the second time you've cast your commander. Oh, you mean if you cast Omo twice and then Casti. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's true. There you go. Or anything. Omo is pretty cheap, so it's possible. Okay.

Jimmy Wong
And it's everything scary. Yeah. Those are the two new legendary cards that can be commanders of this precon out of the box. I think we're gonna find. Well, we'll go break down the stats and everything, but Omo's the one.

Josh Lee Kwai
It's called tricky terrain. Yeah, yeah, I guess, you know, lands that are creatures are also tricky terrain. There's a lot of tricky terrain in the deck, but I think Omo is by far the easy choice here. But there are also 13 other new cards in this deck, which we are going to read now. All right, so the first one up, and again, we're not going to be doing too much analysis, evaluation.

Jimmy Wong
We'll save that for later. This is aggressive biomancy. So xx, green and blue for a sorcery, it says, create x tokens that are copies of target creature you control, except they have, when this creature enters the battlefield, it fights up to one target creature you don't control. If X is equal to one, this is a four mana. Create one token that's a copy of creature you control, and then it fights something when it enters the battlefield.

Josh Lee Kwai
So the more mana you pump in, the more not only tokens you make, but also potential removal or creatures you remove. Yeah, yeah. And if you do this on the commanders, you're gonna lose legendary copies, but you'll get a bunch of ETB triggers as well. Yeah, it's. And they will, I think they fight.

State base actually will go away before the fighting actually happens. But this is great. Double check that, please, editors. But I believe that's true. But, yeah, you just need a big creature and then you can kind of go ham.

Right? Yeah. For six mana, you get two copies of creature, four, and then, of course, it scales up. But this is nice in terms of just getting a bunch of ETB triggers on something that's really powerful already. We already seen, you know, obviously, anytime you make x number of copies of anything, it could be very explosive on the board.

Yeah. And then one thing to know about this deck is it does. We'll talk about this later again. But it does create a lot of mana. So this is a way to spend that mana in a potential game winning situation.

So that's cool. Yeah. And we should say we're not doing a ton of card evaluation here because we do precon upgrades for all of the decks. So this is a reveal video where we show you what is in it. You know, wizards gives us the responsibility, the privilege of doing this.

But then later we will release a video for every single precon, including this one, which evaluates them, talks about the cards a little more in depth, and then helps you upgrade them as well. Yeah. Okay. The next new card in this deck is copy land. I wonder what that does.

Jimmy Wong
I bet this is not tricky, right? Please tell me this isn't tricky. It's two in the blue. For an enchantment, you may have copy land. Enter the battlefield as a copy of any land on the battlefield, except it's an enchantment in addition to its other types.

Oh, okay. So you get an enchantment land. All right, that's cool. That's a tricky land. It's a land clone, basically.

Yeah. That's cool. This is also a ramp, right? Yeah, totally. Yeah.

Josh Lee Kwai
Which is cool. It's over cost. It is not ramp and growth cost, which is what you want from ramp. But still, the fact that it can become any land is pretty good. Like somebody's got a guy's cradle or something.

Nuts. You're like, strip mine. Even you might need it. That's messed up, though. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. All right, next up we have desert warfare. Keeping in the tricky landscape three and agreeing for an enchantment. Whenever you sacrifice a desert and whenever a desert card is put into your graveyard from your hand or library, put that card on the battlefield under your control at the beginning of your next end step at the beginning of combat on your turn.

Jimmy Wong
If you control five or more deserts, create that many one. One red, green, and white sand warrior creature tokens, and they gain haste. It's kind of a Hesezon type effect. So deserts, classically, both have, a lot of them, have abilities to sacrifice themselves to have an effect, or they cycle. So, from your hand or library, even.

So, even if you mill a desert, you get to put it on your battlefield, and then you get to make a bunch of one ones. Now, remember, Omo can't make the. The lands in your hand into everything, so it will have to be actual desert to trigger this most of the time. Yeah. Cool, though.

Yeah. All right, the next card is a new land. It's called Horizon of progress. You can tap it, pay one life, and add one mana of any type that a land you control could produce. Okay, that's actually really good.

In just commander in general, you can. Pay three, tap this land, and you may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield. Tapped. Okay. Four mana ram.

Josh Lee Kwai
Kinda. Yeah. Again, it is four mana. Jimmy's right there, because you also have to tap this land plus three others. So that looks good, but you will almost never be able to actually do it.

Jimmy Wong
Yeah. And then you can pay one and tap horizon of progress, sacrifice it, and draw a card. Okay, so that's very similar to a lot of the lands that we've seen. That's great. There's a lot of utility on this land.

Josh Lee Kwai
I wish it had some land types. Yeah, that's true. But I will say a lot of commander decks may just play this because they're a five color deck, and they just need the ability to have, you know, if you have a triome out, all of a sudden, you're, like, having two triomes out. True, but they'd still play it if it was a cave, for instance. Yeah.

Jimmy Wong
Yeah. Okay, what's the next one? All right, next one is another land. It is the lazotep quarry. It's a desert.

Josh Lee Kwai
Oh, that's nice. There is a land type here. You can tap it to add a color list. You can also tap sack a creature, add one mana of any color, or you can pay x and two mana and tap it to sacrifice a desert exile target creature card with mana value x. From your graveyard, create a token.

Jimmy Wong
That's a copy of it, except it's a four. Four. Black zombie. Activate only as a scarab gods. Some kind scarab God on a land, in a way.

Yeah. This seems very good. Again, it's hard not to evaluate cards. Hard not to evaluate cards. But exit two is a lot.

So if you're copying a four mana valley spell, that's six mana plus that land. So seven mana to reanimate something. Yeah. And only as a sorcerer. I think if it was true scarab God as an instant, then that would be a lot more powerful.

But it is completely colorless, which is cool. So this can technically go in any deck. Yeah. And the fact that you could just sack a creature on it to add one man of any color. Often just sacking a creature is something you do want to do.

Josh Lee Kwai
Like, they go to imprison in the moon or song of the Dryads or something. You're a commander and you're like, I'm not gonna be able to get that back. I'd rather just sack it, put it in the command zone. It's just nice to have a land that sacks. Yeah.

Jimmy Wong
High market is a very played card because it's just the land that sacks a creature. Yeah. You're not trying to gain life with it generally. Yeah. All right, the next new card is March of Veles.

Josh Lee Kwai
Sorry. March from Velesvel to anablue. For a sorcery, choose a non basic land type. Each land you control of that type becomes a copy of target creature you control until end of turn and gain haste until end of turn. And then it has flashback for four and a blue.

So if you've gotten enough, everything counters out. You might have, like, all your lands, be able to name whatever. Maybe you've got a couple of deserts, and you've put everything counters on your other three lands, and they're also deserts. And you say, cool, I'm gonna cast this naming desert, and all my deserts will become this awesome creature I've got and gain haste. Yeah.

And so now I'm attacking with a ton of stuff out of nowhere. And the flashback makes it really good too, because you can do that again later. Yeah, that's pretty good, especially if you have attack triggers on something. But this is sweet. Velesvel.

Jimmy Wong
All of the original Velesvel cards were all the shapeshifter ones that had every type, which is kind of nice. Nice little throwback. All right, next up, another new land. So three new lands here. This is planar Nexus, and planar Nexus is every non basic land type.

So we said that earlier. Cave, desert, gate, lair, locust mine, power plant, sphere, tower, and urzas. It's a changeling land. It's a changeling land, and you can tap it for colorless, or you can pay one man to tap it and add one mana of any color so it can filter. But this seems like it's here because of the changeling land stuff and obviously works great with march from Velesfell.

Josh Lee Kwai
All right, the next new card is rampant fragantua. Fragantua. Yeah. Fragantua fragantula. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Rampant fragantua. Two in a green for a three. Three frog with trample.

Not legendary, just regular. It gets plus ten. Plus ten for each player who has lost the game. So it's got three mana. 1313 if someone's knocked out.

Yeah. Incredible. Whenever it deals combat damage to a player, you may mill that many cards. Whoa. Put any number of land cards from among them onto the battlefield.

Tapped. Whoa. So it's even pretty good on three since you're likely to have an attack and just milling three and getting a land out off your three three is pretty good. Maybe even two lands. Milling like 13 or 23 off of.

A creature, and you can pump it in other ways, like sort of decent famine on it. Seems really great, right? Oh, yeah. Untap all your lands, but also put a bunch on it. Put them all.

Jimmy Wong
Yeah. Yeah. That seems great. Yeah. You can stack the triggers.

That's pretty exciting. Good job so far. A frog is the most exciting thing. That we read, I think, in bloomberg we might have some more frogs we like. Yeah.

Hopefully. Next up, we have sage of the maze. This is a two in a green for a one three elf wizard. You can tap it to add two mana in any combination of colors. You can also tap it until end of turn.

Target land you control, becomes an xx citizen with haste. In addition to its other types, where x is twice the number of gates you control, activate only as a sorcery. And then the final ability, there's more. You can tap an untapped gate you control to untap sage of the maze. Whoa.

There's a lot of stuff here. I love all the little references to things of the past. The Ravnica, the maze. Yeah. The vellus Vel.

Josh Lee Kwai
The. This makes citizens, which we saw recently. Yeah. Desert warfare. Yeah.

Jimmy Wong
This is cool. Desert power. Also known as desert power. Yeah. So tapping an untapped gape to untap this and then adding two mana, you're kind of mana positive.

Josh Lee Kwai
Yeah. Plus, if you have enough gates, that's. It's gonna make a huge creature out of nowhere. Like something you always have to worry about. Twice the number of gates and it.

Costs no mana to do that. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty cool. All right, the next one is another new land. No way.

It is sunken palace. It is a cave. It enters the battlefield tapped. You can tap it for blue. It also has an activated ability.

One in a blue. Tap it. Exile seven cards from your graveyard. Whoa. Add blue.

When you spend this mana to cast a spell or activate an ability, copy that spell or ability, you may choose new targets for the copy. Wow. Wow. Seven cards is a lot, but you also might have a rampant fragantua out. I mean, this seems really good in a self milled deck just outside of this terrain deck as well.

I think that. Yeah. No card evaluation, but I think we're gonna see that one a decent amount. Yeah. Cause technically it costs more than blue and tap it.

Jimmy Wong
But you do get a blue mana when you do the thing. Yeah. So the land itself, it costs you one extra. And now you're copying a spell, which is. Copying a spell is insane.

Yeah. Yeah. And you get that mana. Okay, next up is another new land, Talon Gates of Madara. Land gate.

When Talon gates of madara enters the battlefield, up to one target, creature phases out. Tap to add a colorless mana. Or you can pay one and tap it to add one mana of any color, and then four mana. Put talon gates of madara from your hand onto the battlefield. So that's a four mana removal or blank something.

Josh Lee Kwai
Spell removal, land and ramp, right? Yeah, yeah. You get an extra land out, you remove something for a turn. Maybe it's an attacker or someone's targeting it, or someone's targeting your stuff, or they're trying to do a fight spell. But you know they're gonna get a bunch of triggers off it.

Jimmy Wong
You can blank it. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah, very cool. Wow.

Josh Lee Kwai
All right, the next one is another new land. No way. It is called Trench post. It is a locus land. You can tap it for colorless, or you can pay three and tap it target player mills a card for each locus you control.

Jimmy Wong
Oh, okay. And locusts are kind of famous for having tap abilities. And then that ability scales with how many locust lands you've got. Locust lands. There's a couple of them that already see quite a bit of play in, commander.

Josh Lee Kwai
So it'd be interesting to see if there's enough of them if this gets starts to become worth it. Cause three's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot of self mild happening here with the gargantua, the trench post, and the sunken palace. Caring about the frog. Yeah, the frog antua.

Jimmy Wong
So that's pretty sweet. There's a lot of synergy there. All right, there's one more new card left. All right. It's not a land.

It is a moonfolk wizard. It's a wonderscape sage one in the blue for a one three. And it has flying and it has tap. Return a land you control to its owner's hand. Draw a card, then discard a card unless that land had a non basic land type.

Josh Lee Kwai
Ooh, interesting. Okay, so this is like getting replay value on your lands. You can also technically discard the card that. Yeah, the land. No, you draw a card and you only discard the card unless the land you returned had the non basic land type.

Jimmy Wong
Right, right. So you can do that or would have to do that if you did just a basic land. Basically, yeah. Or I guess it has to have a non basic land type. So even, like a tap, like a refuge land or something, you'd return it.

Josh Lee Kwai
It doesn't have any land types. That's right. It has a non basic land type. Yeah. Okay, interesting.

It has to be like a gate or a cave or all those ones. All the ones that we've seen. Locusts, all that stuff. Yeah. Very cool.

I love the theme of this deck. It's really interesting. And also starts your mind thinking already about like, oh, these new cards can probably go in other decks that I have that already sort of meet some of the criteria. It does feel tricky even just reading the cards. We were like, hold on.

Jimmy Wong
Let me make sure I'm reading this correctly. There's a lot that's going on here. Yeah, really cool. All right, so those are all the 15 new cards that come in this tricky terrain precon deck from MH three. But we're not done yet.

Josh Lee Kwai
We are going to break down the stats of the deck, how it plays, and sort of what style it's in, and also talk about the reprint value. How does it stack up to the total reprint value? We've had sort of recently? It's been very good. Is that trend gonna continue or are we gonna sort of revert to the norm and start to trend down?

We'll find out. And then every card in the deck? Yes. We're definitely gonna read off every single card in the deck so that you can see them on screen and also, you know, know if there's new art or anything like that. So we're gonna do that right after we come back from this quick message from our sponsor.

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Just go to archdeck.com commandzone to get started. That's archidekt.com commandzone. All right, welcome back, everybody. We are talking about trickiness today with the tricky terrain precon from mh three. And now it's time to get into the.

So in a deck like this, you might expect some ramp. And you are correct. Let's kick it off with the ramp cards. There are 16 ways to ramp in this deck. Yeah.

Josh Lee Kwai
Not very surprising for a deck that cares about land types. Yeah. And domestic. It's not exactly a landfall deck type. Landfall, not domain.

Jimmy Wong
But it does want more lands on the battlefield. So ramp, I'm assuming, is gonna have just getting any kinds of lands out yeah. And I would expect a deck like this and we'll see in a second to just have more lands than your average deck, because it cares about lands a lot. Yeah, for sure. The next category is card draw.

Josh Lee Kwai
And we see there are 13 card draw spells in this deck. How does it make you feel, Josh? That makes me feel good. I think that's a good amount. This is simic, by the way.

Yeah. 16 ramp, 13 card drawn simic. That sounds about right. Yep. There are eleven things of targeted interaction.

Jimmy Wong
Eleven cars that target interaction specifically, which is kind of cool. That's high. To me. Ten to 15 is kind of where I sit most of the time these days. I've been like, yeah, I've been closer to the ten side.

I think. I think I'm starting to take off a couple and then add a couple of the next category, which is board wipes. We've got two board wipes in this deck, which I think. I think a year and a half ago, we would have said is good. And now I think you probably want one or two more just because there's so much ward running around.

Josh Lee Kwai
But it's still within the realm that's acceptable. A couple of board wipes and then how many lands are in the deck? 43. 43. That's a lot.

Yeah. And it doesn't surprise me. I would expect to be around that number. For a deck that cares about lands. In anything, you definitely do not want to miss land drops in this deck.

Jimmy Wong
So many of the cards care about having certain types of lands or a mass abundance of a kind of land. Yeah. Or just putting them into play on other players turns or ramping them out in some way. Turning them into creatures. They might die.

Josh Lee Kwai
Yeah. So you just wouldn't. I'm not surprised at all that you want more than your normal deck. Normal deck is, like, 37, so this is probably six or seven more than that. We should note these are 43 lands that tap for mana.

Jimmy Wong
There is one other land that doesn't, but we'll talk about it when we talk about all the cards that are reprinted. Yeah, there's technically 44 lands, I suppose, but you can think about that 44th one as a spell more than a landmark spell. Yeah. Kind of a win con, too. All right, let's go on to some of the non sort of primary categories.

We have four cards that tutor for non basic lands, so that makes sense here. These non basic lands are the major contributor to how this deck works. Yeah. There are four land creatures, not that many, and I think that's a really big signpost that tells you that got as the backup commander really should be the backup. And you're gonna want to run Omo out of the box as the commander of this deck.

Josh Lee Kwai
It's gonna run the most smooth that way. Yep. There are six of what we're calling scary tokens. So something that either generates a lot of tokens, like desert warfare, or one big problem. Token like marriott lage, like Mary Lage.

Which might tell you what that 44th land was. And then there are twelve mana sinks. So one thing when analyzing the deck that we found was it is likely to create a lot of mana. It's not like your typical landfall deck, which can create a lot of mana, but is concentrated on just sort of getting extra land drops in for the effect they're gonna cause. Yeah, this is getting extra lands in to try and have the right combination of lands.

Like the tron lands are in here. Yeah. So you might have these turns where suddenly you can create 30 mana, and then it's a question of, does the deck give you the ability to spend that 30 mana in a way that wins the game or at least really advances your board state or advances you towards a win? So there are a bunch of x spells, and there are some activated abilities that you can sort of repeatedly use. Mana sinks, and there are twelve total in this category.

Jimmy Wong
Yeah. So that's a fairly significant portion of the deck, I would say. So it really does want you to build a bunch of mana and then either have these big payoff cards like some of the new ones we mentioned, or just sink it into a single card that can do a lot with it. Yeah. And I think that's important with texts like this.

Josh Lee Kwai
What you find is like, I did it. I can create a bunch of mana. And then it's like, I don't have anything to do with the mana except create more mana. So you gotta have. Yeah.

Some way to advance that towards a win to weaponize the mana, which is generally not that difficult. Nope. Okay, so the deck contents, there's 15 new cards. There are no cards from the main modern horizon set in this precon, and that's pretty rare. Usually they throw in one or two.

Jimmy Wong
Throw in one or two. I think it tells you that this theme is very out there, and it's really cool. Whoever designed this at wizard or came up with this idea, it's great. And then there are 78 reprints in the deck and seven basic lands. Not very many basic lands.

Josh Lee Kwai
And I love that. I've been thinking about for a two. Color deck by the way. Yeah. And we've been saying this for years.

I will usually call out when there's, like, 20 basic lands. Like, come on, that's messed up. It's so easy to just put something nice in the land slot there. So seven basics tells me that they've got a lot of value in the land slot, and it makes sense for a deck like this, but it's great to see. And speaking of which, let's talk about the reprint value of the deck.

Jimmy Wong
Notably, this is, of course, the reprint value. When we record this episode, we look up what the cards are, and of course, it does not include new cards because we have no idea what those are gonna be priced at. Right. So it's just the reprints, and it's before the time of the reveal. So people always go and they look it up later, and they're like, that card's not worth that.

Josh Lee Kwai
Well, yeah, because as soon as we say that it's reprinted in this deck, the value goes down because people know it's been reprinted. But we have no ability to get that price when we're recording because, well, this is the reveal video. We don't have time travel capabilities, but we know what happens when you drive the car off the lot. Not yet. If I had time travel capabilities, I would use it in a different way as well.

Jimmy Wong
We may not be podcasting. Bet on baseball games. There you go. Yeah. All right, so keep in mind this deck is currently pre ordering for about $65.

Josh Lee Kwai
So it is pre ordering at a higher price than what we. The quote unquote normal price. They don't do MSRPs anymore, but I'd say like 40 to 45 is the normal price that we expect and see for precons. This is a modern horizon set, which is generally a little more expensive. 65.

It's not as expensive as what we saw for what commander masters last year. So that's nice. So anyway, just to keep that in mind, and then just to set the stage here, average precon reprint value from the last few sets went like this. Lost caverns of Ixalan, about $150. Murders at Karlov Manor, about $170.

168. Fallout, $76. A lot of new cards in fallout, notably. So that did affect it. Yeah.

Fallout decks had like 30 plus new cards. So, yeah, I don't want you to think fallout decks are bad. They were actually quite good. Yeah. Reprint value we're talking about here.

Yep. Thunder junction, $130.

What is the reprint? It's crazy. I just looked at the number. Yeah. Is it crazy good or crazy bad?

Jimmy Wong
Jimmy, it's crazy good. Like we hinted at earlier, there are some valuable lands in here. And the other cards, the tricky terrain. Reprint value is a whopping. Perhaps the first time ever over $200.

It's $209.25, basically $210 worth of reprint. What? I believe it's the highest number we've ever seen. It's the highest number I've ever seen, period, just in my life. We've been doing this for almost a decade now.

Josh Lee Kwai
And I don't believe we've been over $200. Yeah, if we have. Because, again, it's been that long. So maybe it's very rare. It's super rare.

Yeah. This is crazy. I mean, it is $65 for the deck. But Commander Masters, none of the decks were above dollar 200. And they were all more expensive than this.

So, yeah, this is just a great number to see and tells you there are some really good big reprints in here. Here. And not just lands, by the way. The top reprints are actually non land. So we'll talk about that in a second.

Jimmy Wong
Because, first, we should also address what the bang for your buck price is for this deck. So, because of the pre order value, you can sort of take the average preorder value and divide it by the reprint value and figure out how much are you actually getting for each $1 you spent, card value wise. Yeah. And this, I like this because it's something Rachel came up with. Because it takes into account how much you're spending versus how much you're getting, rather than just the bottom line of how much you get.

Because this deck is preordering for much higher than the other one. So this will make a difference here. Yeah. So LCI was for every dollar you spent, you got about $3.73 back in value. And that was the same for Karloff Manor, actually, about the exact same $3.37.

Josh Lee Kwai
Now, fallout was $1.27, again, low, because there's a lot more new cards in that deck that are not counted when we do these. Outlaws of Thunder Junction was right around $3 at $2.90, which is, I'd say, really good. Again, for every dollar you're spending, you're basically getting $3 worth of card value. Yep. And then this tricky terrain deck is $3.22 per dollar, assuming you got it at 65 ish.

Yeah. So it's not as impressive as the difference that we saw in the average pre current repurp value. But again, that's because it's pre ordering for higher. Yeah. And I don't know, in your mind how you decide which bang for your buck is better or just total, right?

Like, if you spend 65 and you get dollar 209 with value, you got like $160 more than. Or, sorry, $140 more than you paid, $145 more than you paid. Whereas if you paid $45 for the. LCI deck, got $150, then you got. $105 worth of value more than the value you paid.

Is that better than bang for your buck? Is it better to just get more back for your dollar? I don't know. You decide, but these are just different ways to look at it. In any case, I would say it's fair to say that this is very good.

Jimmy Wong
Yeah, it's still dollar three. If you only compare it to other stuff, then obviously you're going to get more of a skewed perspective. But still. Yeah, it's good because there are a lot of notable reprints in this deck. Holy crap.

Josh Lee Kwai
I didn't realize this first reprint was so much so expensive. This card is pretty nuts. It's devastating, you might say. It is devastating. Yeah.

So we're gonna go over the notable reprints here, which are the ones worth $5 or more in this deck. And there are ten, which is a very high number. Yeah. And I love this trend. I feel like there's been a trend towards more higher revamp value cards in pre cons.

Jimmy Wong
Yeah. And that's aiding the reprint value, but also just kind of making it more exciting. So this first card is Apex devastator. This is the 1010 that cast four times. It was $28 before we just said the name of it just now.

Yeah, I believe it wasn't reprinted until now. This is obviously just a huge win con in so many decks. And there are a lot of decks that can reliably cast this level of card as well. Yep. This next one is a Joshua Kwai favorite.

It's Uro, titan of Nature's wrath, which was sitting at around $19. Very good card. This card is just incredibly good. And with the self mill aspects in this deck as well. This is even better with the escape cost.

Josh Lee Kwai
Yep. Next up, it was $17. Until this moment, it's mana reflection. Yeah, we've seen this card go up and down a bunch the last time it was reprinted and dipped, and it's just climbed since tapping a permanent for mana, getting twice as much. Pretty good.

Yeah. It is the kind of card that when it's reprinted, it'll dip, but then over time, it's gonna climb back up because just a lot of decks want that type of effect yeah. Power, value. Okay. Now, finally, after those three cards, is our first land reprint.

Jimmy Wong
That is a lot. It's Vasuva entering the battlefield. Tapped as a copy of any land on the battlefield. And it is a dollar 17 land. It was a $17.

It was a 17. Yeah. Sorry, I'm out of the present moment. When I say that the next one was $16. It is Yavamia, cradle of growth.

Ah, yeah. This is the Erborg. But for forests, this is another car that I'm pretty sure we'll see more reprints in the future. It's gonna do the same thing. Dip and then just slowly climb.

Right? Yeah. Cause the demand for it is just always gonna be there. Yeah. This one's got brand new art.

It's Dryad of the Lycian grove. Dollar 14. This is just an incredible enchantment creature. They got rid of the naked. Yeah, well, I guess he could still be naked, but now there's.

It's just zoomed in. Yeah. He's like, ha. Yeah. Giving you too much.

Josh Lee Kwai
Did you put clothes on? You will never know. Yeah. Now you'll never know. And I'm behind some plants.

Yeah. That was $14. Yeah. But very good, Lance. You control every basic land type in addition to their other types.

The next one is a card we've teased a couple of times. It's dark depths. Yeah. Which was sitting at $8. And this is a mana sink and a wincon because it can create merit lage, which is a 2020 creature with flying and indestructible.

Jimmy Wong
And with the yavame out, it is actually a land. Oh, then you get all the land creature synergies, too. There you go. Yeah. Next up is drowning dreams.

This is a turbo mill card that was sitting at $7. I don't think this had been reprinted either, until now. The next is skewed swarm. Oh, gosh. This card wins games.

Josh Lee Kwai
A card that was $6 and that everybody loves. Everybody loves playing games. Everyone loves it. Especially the person that doesn't know how the multiplicative effects work after time. Oh, just the accounting on it.

Jimmy Wong
Yeah. Yeah. And then finally, pongify is. The last reprint here is actually a $5 card at this time. I'm surprised that it got so high.

Yeah, it's. Again, it's kind of like the sol ring effect. It's like every blue deck. You kind of want to pongify in there. Yeah, pongify.

Josh Lee Kwai
It's so good. And it's hard to ever beat because it just is a one mana removal space. One mana removal. Yeah. Green is sitting there like, oh, I can't do that.

Jimmy Wong
So. All right, so those were the notable reprints, $5 or more. They take up a good amount of the reprint value from the deck, but there are still a whole bunch of other cards, and when you add them up, they're what gets us to that $209 total. So we're done now revealing specific cards. What we're going to do is just an alphabetical order, go through the remainder of the deck and name all of the cards that are left.

Josh Lee Kwai
So if you want to stick around and see what those are, I don't believe any avenue art, but it's possible that possible. If we miss it, we can catch it too. Wizards doesn't denote that on anything we get, so we just have to know that, oh, that's not new art. So again, we'll read that also the full deck list, if you're interested. There's gonna be a link in the show notes, so if you don't want to take the time to hear our dulcet tones, read off every single card in alphabetical order, you can skip that and you can just go click on the link.

But you wouldn't skip it, right? You wanna hear Jimmy and I talk, and then you wanna hear us talk about Cardino, and then you wanna go. To and see after the show's done and you've heard about our sponsors. There's also the other deck reveals too. Also, you do wanna stick around and find out who won the extra turns, like guest fan audition and who's gonna be appearing.

Which of our patrons gonna be appearing on the show? Of course, I would assume if you were a patron and you auditioned, you just skipped. You skipped immediately. Did I win? And then maybe came back, and then.

Jimmy Wong
You'Re like, you know, I do want to find out about trick or terrain and the full deck list. Here we go. Here we go. All right. We didn't start the fire.

Acidic slime. Acidic slime. Arcane denial. Arcane signet. Avengers.

Josh Lee Kwai
Endicar. Basilisk gate. Beast within blast zone. Chromatic lantern. Cloud.

Post command tower. Curse of the swine. Desert of the Indominus. Desert of the mindful dream. Root cascade.

Jimmy Wong
Elvis rejuvenator. Eureka. Moment. Evacuation expedition. Map.

Finale of revelation. Flooded growth. Floriferous vinewall. Wow. Bog bank glimmer.

Josh Lee Kwai
Post growth spiral. Harmonize. Half ship oasis. Hidden cataracts. Sorry.

Halfship oasis hidden nursery. Hour of promise. Hydra. Broodmaster. Hydroid crisis.

Lair of the Hydra. Lumbering falls. You know, you say you like it when we sing. This is what you get. Yeah.

Lush oasis. Mangus of the candelabra. Mirage mirror. Credit card. Nysa.

Jimmy Wong
Steward of elements. Oblivion stone. Overflowing basin. Poison dart frog propaganda. Quandrous campus rampaging bailey ramming up.

Excavate replication technique. Seder wayfinder. See your sundial. Oh, we'll go to the chorus. Yeah, I guess so.

Yeah. Simic growth chamber. Simmic kill gates. Skull winder. I don't know how to do the chorus.

Yeah. Soul ring. Summary dismissal. Sylvan's crying. Tati ova benthic druid.

Josh Lee Kwai
Temple of mystery to rest of dawn. Despiant stage. Thornwood Falls. Treasurer cruise. Uvanwald Hydra.

Jimmy Wong
Urban revolution. Ursus mine. Ursa's power plant. Ursa's tower. Vinegar snarl.

Josh Lee Kwai
Vivian reed. Volatile fault. Yavamiya coast. Island, island, island. Forest, forest, forest, forest.

Three islands, four forests. All right. Oh, boy. Maybe there's some new art on these lands. I don't think I've seen.

Jimmy Wong
Seen these land arts before. Cause they always do that for the Monroe. That's right. I'm sure everybody followed all that. If you didn't, remember, there's a link in the show notes.

If you didn't, don't tell me about it. All right, before we go, let's talk about the initial impressions of the deck. I think we went over it a little bit earlier. There's a ton of utility lands in here. A ton of colorless lands in here.

This is definitely an easy deck to buy just to take apart. I think even the cards that we were naming here, evacuation finale, revelation. These cards go in other decks very easily. Even if you're not doing this tricky thing, this deck seems like a great value buy. Yeah.

Josh Lee Kwai
But I think it's cool to keep it together. I think this terrain matters. Yeah, its theme is really cool and something we haven't seen before. And, you know, I'm sure we're gonna do a precon upgrade about this, and we'll talk about what type of cards to add in here and which to take out. But I really like this idea, and I think it'll be fun to play with and fun to see what people come up with to kind of make this theme, you know, work a little bit better, a little bit smoother than a precon, but it looks pretty good out of the box.

Box. Like we said earlier, I think this deck is going to be more about getting specific things out, things that, like, oh, count how many of this type of whatever you have in combination to just burst forward and get a big payoff. Bunch of mana. And then do something big and splashy. Yeah, do a big splashy spell or have an activated ability or a mana sync that you're just able to activate that five times now and maybe win on the spot or just at least advance your board state so much that you know you're likely to achieve victory.

Jimmy Wong
Yeah, it's interesting, too. Simic has had not problems, but just it's always the same thing. And so this is the first time in a long time I've seen the simic deck where I'm like, wow, I don't even know how this would play. It's so different. Yeah, really cool.

Josh Lee Kwai
I think there's going to be a lot of interesting, like, sequencing and choices to be made, too. Just like, do I want to cave out? Do I want to gate out? When am I bouncing my hand? When am I unshud mill here?

A lot of car lands come into play, tapped. So what's the sequencing for that? So I think it's going to be a deck that rewards high skill as well. All right, before we go here, we're going to do as promised. We're done.

We're done talking about this deck. If you're here for tricky terrain. Bye. See you later. Check the show notes.

But if you are here because you submitted on audition to be on extra turns, that means you're a patron of our show. So first of all, we appreciate all of you so, so much. You really do make our content possible. Or if you're here because you just want to know, who won't. We did an audition call out about a couple months ago, and we got hundreds of submissions, as we usually do.

It took us a little while to go through them, narrow it down, get the nominees, and then we do what we always did, which is we just send, we narrow it down to the list of finalists and the entire office just votes. We do ranked voting. One, two, three. Just their gut of who. Usually we get to the finalists and we're like, any of these people could be on the show, it would be fine.

Like, but, you know, we don't have endless seats and we have to choose one. So then we do the ranked voting. So anyway, I know a lot of people are like, shut up, Josh. Just tell us. Just tell it is.

We're not going to tell you who it is. We're going to show you who it is. Let's see it. Let's see the audition from the extra turns game nights Patreon winner. My name is Sethlin's John Vayu.

Sethlin's John Vayu
A pet card that I have is muddle the mixture. It's somewhere between a Tudor and a removal spell, counter spell. I think it's fantastic. It saved mine bacon so many times. You know, something's happening, and I'm like, oh, my God, how can I deal with this?

Oh, not all the mixture. Let's go find that cyclonic riff, or, you know, I need to trigger my tap on tap combo. Great. I'm gonna go get that a feto alchemist and get that in my hand and put it into play, etc. That kind of stuff.

So it's been a really good card. All right, well, congratulations to seth lens. Yeah, we're really excited. And this is a person, I want to say, who has auditioned over the years a bunch of times, and always somebody who. Who is among the finalists and in the mix, and somebody who they could have won, and it just.

Josh Lee Kwai
This is the year and the time where it finally is gonna happen. Yeah, we're really excited for him to fly out from Australia. Cool to be on the show. I will say it's really great to know as well. If you're auditioning and you're not getting in that from the finalist choices, any of them really could legitimately be on the show easily.

Jimmy Wong
So to not take this as, like, oh, shucks, I didn't win. I'm not good enough. Cause you might have been one of those finalists. And oftentimes, like Josh said, we always see people re auditioning and getting better each time, too. And so it's not like we're discounting you if you're auditioning again.

If anything, it's helping because you're learning the process. You're maybe watching the winter clips and going, oh, there's an element there that I could have included in my audition. So as someone that's auditioned plenty of times in his life, have you really? Yeah. Yeah.

Keep your head up. Keep your head up. Yeah. And I will say, too, that, you know, when it gets down to the finalists, it's often just kind of a coin flip. So it could have been anybody in there, like we said, but also, like, just the voting's kind of random.

Josh Lee Kwai
People like daddy. Here are people who we've kind of seen a number of times over the years, and they tend to start getting the feeling of, like, this person should get on eventually. They're always in the mix. And then we've seen this a couple of times now with people who have auditioned multiple times and got on where eventually it's like, yeah, this is the moment you just see people, oh, right now are voting them a little bit higher than they have in the past just because they feel like, oh, this person, they've always been close. Let's get them across the finish line this time.

So, yeah. Appreciate all the patrons. We're going to continue to do auditions. We have extra turns now in addition to game night, so there's more chances than ever. Yeah.

So we're definitely going to keep doing it. We love bringing the fans out and we can't wait to have daddy out here to. Very exciting. Yeah. To hang out with us and play an extra turn.

So, to the listeners, what do you think about this tricky, tricky terrain? Deck rector's terrain is, but still kind of tricky. Yeah. Are you excited as we are about it? Do you have any cool ideas off the top of your head from seeing these new cards of like, oh, this has to go in that?

Jimmy Wong
Yeah. I can't believe they didn't put it in there. Yeah. Let us know in the comments. And of course, if you're interested in pre ordering this deck or getting any of the mh three cards from the main set or the precons, head on over to cardkingdom.com command.

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Josh Lee Kwai
They are having flash sales and things like that. They have secret lair drops that are limited. So if you want to theme your deck out around the color the guild, the artwork on the commander. They've got play mats, deck boxes, sleeves, dice, wall scrolls. Everything you need to protect your game pieces, but also make your battlefield and just your game night look awesome and be more a joke.

Jimmy Wong
So I will watch your brother.com command. Yeah. And before we go, one last thing. Don't forget the command zone is currently hiring. There's a link in the show notes if you are interested to come and join our team.

Josh Lee Kwai
We are looking for talented, ambitious, hardworking folks who love magic and are interested in entertainment and content production. Yeah, content production. I will say one thing just off the top, you do have to be in LA or be willing to come to LA because, you know, it's literal work in the studio. We're gonna be like moving lights around and cameras and stuff. And we need people that are and do that, unfortunately.

Yeah, we need people our hands on because we are often just like, actually need to be in the same space, like doing things together, create to create the content. So if you're interested and you think you are the right fit, it is a really fun job, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. Check it out in the show notes. Okay.

Jimmy Wong
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Thanks for watching. We're gonna go now, buddy. We'll keep on singing. Tricky, tricky, tricky.

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