Money Motives Hidden in Shocking True Crime Stories

George Camel
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Rachel Cruz
Hey, guys, I'm Rachel Cruz. I'm George Camel, and this is smart money happy hour. Cheers, George. Cheers.

That's delicious. What a beautiful goblet of doom we're sipping on. Wow. Well, this is the show where two friends who happen to be money experts talk about what you're talking about. So everything from pop culture, current events, and money.

George Camel
And today we are talking about Rachel's dark side, because it's a darkness that happens to have a lot of juicy money psychology involved. Dun dun, dun. So we're gonna just prepare. We have listeners of all ages, George. We have the youth.

Rachel Cruz
We have the elderly. But if you're near the youth side or you have youth around you listening, this may be an episode that, you know, you put your earbuds in for. Maybe you pause, let the kids go in another room, because we're gonna talk about crime and murder and money. So we're giving you a fair warning, parents. Fair warning.

George Camel
Yeah, I just don't. I think it's a fair disclaimer. Yeah. I don't want you getting mad at me going. My children were.

Listen, lady, that's on you. We like true crime episodes, and we're gonna talk about them. So it's not super dark. I mean, still PG. But, you know, for some kids, this is a lot.

Rachel Cruz
We don't. Yeah, we have that. But you know what is alive and well? What? Lindsay.

George Camel
Lindsay. You guys are alive in this chair. People didn't know, Lindsey, that you disappeared, and they were asking, where did she go? But you're here. You took some time off, and we're so happy to have you back.

Do you wanna share some news? We're really excited. There's some exciting news. Yes, I'm expecting Jordan and I are expecting. Oh, my God.

Such wonderful news. Could you imagine a little Lindsay baby? That's gonna be cute. Joe's gonna be the cute. And if it's Jordan, her husband, it will not be little.

Cause Jordan is. That's actually very fair. He's like a slavic God. I mean, the man is just massive. We're gonna need to clip that out.

He is like six four. He's huge. And Lindsay's like. This is like little Lindsay. Oh, my gosh.

He's like a viking king. Really? Truly. You're filling up his ego right now. He's loving queen for carrying a human.

Rachel Cruz
Let's just give the props to who gets the props. So, Lindsay, we're so happy for you. We're so glad to have you back. Now you all can. I'm just glad everyone can stop dming me being like, is Lindsey okay?

I know. I'm worried about Lindsay. When's Lindsey coming back? I did have a lot of fans. Linds.

George Camel
She's here. I am not my sister's keeper. So we're in good spirits now. And today, Rachel, we're sipping on a black widow in honor of our true crime murdery episode. That's right.

Rachel Cruz
Good cocktail name for the old crime episode. So we're gonna give it a rating, reveal the cost per glass at the end of the episode. As always, recipe in the show notes. Okay, so to kick it off, I'm going to stage a formal intervention live on air on smart money happy hour. Oh, gosh.

To who? Come clean with our audience, Rachel. To me. What? You have an addiction?

Uh, yeah, we could say maybe addiction. I don't know. I personally don't know anyone that loves true crime as much as you do. I love stories around murder and crime that are true. That are true.

Books that I read. Some true. Something. Like the books I read. I love a good mystery book of, like, oh, my God, there was, like, a murder and an affair, and, like, we.

They're missing a kidnapping. Like, all this stuff, right? Like, those are the books I like to read. Wow. But then you layer reality on top, and sadly, we live in a broken world, George, and stuff happens.

George Camel
You don't have to make stuff up these days. Yes. And so that is presented on types of podcasts and late nights, you know, Dateline shows and all that. So I do. I will say, and we're gonna get.

To the sort of ethical dilemma of telling these stories for entertainment purposes while profiting off of it. So we'll get there. But any episodes that come to mind that maybe rocked your world from the Dateline days, you know, you do pick. Up some, like, things in life that you put in your back pocket, like a. Just in case.

Rachel Cruz
Like, if I was ever in this situation, just in case, and I will never forget, there was a woman, and this was on a show called I survived, which is also terrifying. Oh, gosh. And she was kidnapped, which I'm convinced at some point in my life it's gonna happen to me. I don't know why. I don't know why, but I am prepared.

After Elizabeth smart, all that went downhill for Rachel, and I was like, I am proud. Pretty egotistical to think it's probably gonna happen. I don't know why. I'm just always aware and. But this lady was kidnapped, and she was in the back of the car.

She had her cell phone still. So probably not a smart kidnapper. Cause I would think if you're a kidnapper, you're gonna take the phone, right? Yeah. But she dialed 911, went on the side and put it on speaker, but put down her volume so you couldn't hear the operator.

And she just started screaming out where she was. So she was like, why are you driving down? I'm gonna make up Nashville I 65 heading towards downtown Nashville. You're passing old Hickory Boulevard exit. You're passing Harding place exit.

Why are you past, you know, where are you taking me? Why did you. I mean, she's yelling out directions, and the cops, they found him, so I will survive if that happens from that. Okay. Well, isn't that good, though?

Very seriously. Yeah. Unless you're blindfolded or in the trunk or they take your phone. George, that's not gonna happen to me. Which are all very possible scenarios.

George Camel
But sure, if they let you have your phone, like you're hanging out in the back of an Uber, that could work out. Wishing you the best, Rachel. Also good reason to have fine. My iPhone turned on for everyone out there. For your spouses, your loved ones.

I do. I like to know what's going on. So you know what? You can share your location with me. I'll be on high alert.

Rachel Cruz
Oh, thanks, George. I appreciate what a good friend. And I'll go find them. Thank you. I bet you that's weird.

George Camel
Yeah. I'll avenge your kidnapping. I'll go full Liam Neeson. Wow. Yeah.

Rachel Cruz
Pulling out all the stops. Me and Winston, we're gonna go on a little adventure. Me and Winston. Any excuse to hang out with Winston. Even if it's your kidnapping.

George Camel
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Rachel Cruz
That must have been terrible. Yeah, it wasn't fun. Rachel. Thanks for bringing it up. I would put it in the don't recommend column.

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Rachel Cruz
Or at least I hope.

George Camel
Love it or hate it. Rachel, fear, trauma, drama. It holds our attention. And this isn't just dateline. There's all kinds of types of media that have capitalized on this, and podcasting is the one that really took off.

I remember cereal. Everyone remembers that show, season one, released in 2014. It's ten years ago. Isn't that wild? And it was the thing that, like, launched me into podcasts.

Rachel Cruz
Like, I remember people were talking about it, and I was like, I don't listen to podcasts. Like, you have to listen to this podcast. It was like, I feel like one of the gateway podcasts into that world. And here's the financial part. The serial podcast was sold to the New York Times for $25 million.

Yeah. That is why I can I. Television's picked up some stuff, you know, gypsy Rose. That's been a whole thing they did. The act is what it's called on Hulu.

You got the Murdoch trials. And this was a wealthy family and a lot of murders. And the father now is locked up because he killed his wife. One of the sons. Like, just terrible.

George Camel
This is the crazy part. Snapchat evidence helped convict him. Yes. So it turns out Snapchat does have a purpose. There's one good thing it did for society.

Rachel Cruz
I know, right? And only one. Also the staircase. George. This was a Netflix series, an HBO documentary, and it was one that a lot of people were talking about.

But Michael Peterson found his wife, allegedly, at the bottom of a staircase, dead. And then you find out his ex wife died, too. At the bottom of a staircase. Dun dun dun. So, again, big hits around that.

George Camel
Did not know that. You know, you got some movies. You got Ted Bundy. Do you know who played Ted Bundy? There's a little Zac Efron.

Rachel Cruz
Yes. Man gone girl. I did see that one. Now, listen to this. This grossed 369 million worldwide against a $61 million budget.

And produced by Reese Witherspoon. Great girls, great movie, all of it. But I think this was inspired by the real life death of Lacey Peterson and her husband Scott's bizarre behavior throughout this investigation. Yeah. So, again, there's true crime involved here and big money.

Yeah. Because a lot of murderers are motivated by money. Well, and if you're like me, you hear these stories, and the question is always, why? Mm hmm. Motive.

George Camel
But that's sadly not a new thing. Rachel, I don't know if you remember in the Bible, Cain and Abel, kind of the OG murder. Oh, yeah. You're going all the way back. I'm going way back.

Before Dateline was a glimmer in the producer's eyes. You got old. Cain and Abel started in Genesis, started way back. And there was some jealousy involved, as there is in many murders. It's like we just don't change.

Rachel Cruz
We don't learn. So, yeah, you know what? Maybe this is a kid friendly episode because your kids are. They know this. They're gonna learn about the Bible.

George Camel
How you gonna hide that from them? It's the first book of the Bible. Hey, you just go through the Old Testament, and there is some dark stuff in there. Stuff there for sure. They should be a true crime on old Testament.

Rachel Cruz
Now that. Did I just come up with a new podcast? Okay, hold the phone. Oh, my gosh. Rachel, we need to cut that.

George Camel
Cause that's a really good idea. Oh, my gosh. No one steal it. No one steal it. But asking why?

It's a big part of investigation stories. It's the juicy part. And doctor Peter morale, sociologist, author, professor at University of Leeds, writes that we can categorize almost all motives for murder into one of the four L's. Oh, what are they, Rachel? Lust, love, loathing, and loot.

So that kind of buckets it. Loot is money. So greed is a big part of this. Greed can be a major motivator, and. We'Re going to focus on that one in this episode.

So when investigators look at loot as a motive for murder, what that could mean killing for financial gain. So you hear stories about fighting for the inheritance, insurance payouts. You hear about killing as a part of a robbery to get assets or money, premeditated or otherwise killing to protect a money making criminal enterprise. Think drug trafficking. And finally killing for a payout or lump sum.

Think assassin, mercenary John Wick. Yeah, and money can also be motive for less intense crimes. Right? I mean, I say less intense, but, like, identity theft, money laundering, carjacking. I would put that at pretty high.

That's pretty high. High intensity. Yeah, that's high intensity. You know, but that kind of thing, again, money can be this motivator. And for, you know, some people, that is why they are robbing something.

Rachel Cruz
Right? It's like they don't have the money and they're. This is the means at which they're trying to get it. So money, on so many aspects, is the motivator for a lot of crime. Why do you think that is?

Is it just like the fall of man? Like, we're just original sin? Is it greed? I know. I think greed is probably a really big one, right?

You got somebody that has an insurance policy on them. That's true. And then you're like, man, I don't really like them. So what can I do today? Wow.

George Camel
Winston, watch out, my man. That felt personal, but, yeah, it's. And money also represents other things, like power and security and so. So there's other facets to money that bleed into other areas. So money is a common way that we, quote, motivate ourselves as humans.

And it's not always bad. No, there's examples of this. Yeah. You gotta go to work to make a paycheck. That's a good thing to make money.

Good motivation. So there's some. Yeah. Motivation there. Maybe.

You got paid for good grades, you got commission as a job. Yeah. Were you over that? Oh, 100%. You were?

Rachel Cruz
Your parents paid you for good grades. It works. That is a powerful motivator. Oh, interesting. And I've heard people paying for sports now.

Like, if you make a goal, you get, I don't know, $10 or whatever. I don't know. We were never paid for that stuff. We never got paid on grades. We got never paid on sports.

George Camel
Well, I never made a goal, so I don't know, to be truthful. How much did you make on sports as a child, George? Zero. What about grade ten or $20 per a. How many, like, ramps you can jump with the old skateboard?

Rachel Cruz
Would you made some money doing that? I didn't make money doing the ramp, though. I'm trying to. I'm trying to give you. Oh, like what?

George Camel
My. Cause I wasn't. I was. Yeah, I did extreme sports, which is like sports, but more impressive. So skateboarding, not a.

Not a lucrative sport for me, unfortunately, didn't get paid for the ramps. Yeah. There's still a motivator there. Yeah. And I still, as soon as I could make money, I was going, I wanted to get a job, do something.

Rachel Cruz
Yeah. That was a motivator there. And, of course, people, you know, stay up late working for side hustles for some extra cash. So money can motivate us positively to work hard, and it can also motivate us negatively, you know, stealing things that we covet, burning out for that paycheck. But we often say money makes you more of who you are, because money itself is sort of this amoral thing.

That's right. Yeah. Because, I mean, it does. It magnifies the things that you value, and it's. And it kind of is that tool in life which you have to use.

Right. So here's the remix for today's episode. What you're willing to do for money tells you who you are. Dun dun, dun. That's a good tagline for our new true crime podcast.

Oh, yes.

George Camel
Ot. Okay, so let's dive into some true stories when it comes to money, George. Okay, so first up, you have the story of Uloma and William Walker. So just four months after marrying her firefighter husband, William, she asked her 17 year old daughter and her boyfriend to find a hitman to kill her husband. Get this.

Rachel Cruz
Cause she wanted insurance money, like we said earlier, motivated $100,000. $100,000 insurance money. And she didn't realize, though, the big surprise was that the beneficiary, he had not changed yet, so it was sold to his ex wife. So he gets killed. Ex wife gets the $100,000.

George Camel
That's some sweet vengeance right there. Yep. And although she wrote a confession the day she surrendered to the police that she said that she killed her husband because he was abusive. And her attorneys didn't call any witnesses to testify that Walker had been violent. So she was found guilty of aggravated murder and conspiracy and sentenced to life in prison.

Ouch. So no money, life in prison. Yeah. I feel like if you're gonna do. It, at least go a million.

How far is that gonna get you? That's not even, like, retirement money. I mean, yeah, like, there's a level of, like. All right. But also, the daughter and the daughter's boyfriend were like, yeah, sure.

Like, they just found this hitman. I don't know. That's the craziest part. That's not talked about. So crazy.

Rachel Cruz
Who says life insurance is boring? George? Agreed. You know, no one wants to talk about it unless it involves true crime. Mm hmm.

George Camel
But life insurance payout, not a good motive for murder. Yeah, you actually, there are stipulations on life insurance that if you are close to a murder situation, you don't get the payout. You don't get the payout. So. But I will say this is a great teaching moment.

Oddly timed to get term life insurance in place. It is a great way to protect your family, the people you love, to replace your income untimely. Hopefully it's not your spouse trying to murder you in order to get it. But truly, though, life insurance, that is one of, like, the saddest calls I think we get on the Ramsay show. And this is all, like, kidding aside, I know we're kind of, like, joking about jokes, but for real, when a one spouse does pass unexpectedly, it leaves the other spouse in the situation of, like, oh, my gosh, what am I going to do?

Rachel Cruz
Whether I have to find, you know, help take care of the kids, do I have to go back to work? Like, whatever it is? So life insurance is huge. So go. Yeah.

Check out Xander. You guys will put a link in the description. But for real, Winston, I still have life insurance because it's something I just still want. And there's just this layer of protection for you and your family. We get calls of people that have it, which really does help, and then those that don't.

And it really is. It takes a really sad situation and heartbreaking more stress on it. And the key here, avoid whole life. You want term life? Yes.

So we'll ten to twelve times your income on it. But, yeah, it's very, very important. My term life policy from Xander just came through my bank account and instead of going, oh, gosh, I was just like, I was just, like, resting easy, knowing if something happened to me, God forbid, my family's gonna be just fine. That's right. And we also recommend two other things, you guys, when it comes to this, is one, making a will.

So go to mamabearlegalforms.com and we'll put a link again there. But a will, when it comes to death and everything, like, as much as you can have planned out, honestly, what a gift to give your family. And a will keeps all of your stuff out of the government's hands. I mean, everything is laid out there. It's so much cleaner, so much easier for things to be divided up and to know what is going on.

So a will is definitely something that everyone. Yeah, for both spouses. So we did one through Mama bear. And it's a mirror will. So it's basically you and Winston.

George Camel
You just swap on either will of, like, Rachel's stuff goes to Winston. Winston's stuff goes to Rachel. If both pass, here's what happens. But it's not fun to talk about. But you knock that out.

It takes about 20 minutes to do on their website, and it feels. You get this peace of mind, and you don't die earlier because you made a will or get term life, it turns out. That's right. That doesn't work out like it. People think, well, if I do this, Rachel, there's a more.

There's a higher chance of something happening. No, it's not. It's not. That's not the case. And then lastly, planning your funeral.

Rachel Cruz
Planning your funeral. So this is what's crazy. The average funeral now costs $7,848, y'all. It's expensive. So it's crazy that living is expensive and dying is also expensive.

George Camel
I mean, almost nothing is cheap in this life. Nothing is cheap in this life. Just take me to heaven. Jesus. All right, let's do one last crime story real quick.

Rachel Cruz
George. All right, we got Heidi and Nick, and this one took place in Ramsey County, Minnesota. Coincidence? That's right. Absolutely.

So Nick killed his wife Heidi, and it took decades for investigators to actually charge him with the crime because originally, Nick told the police that his wife was killed during a break in. And he claimed that he grabbed a shotgun in self defense. And, you know, he was trying to, like, kill the intruder, ended up killing her, but then he was shot in the leg, and it was this whole thing. But what they didn't know is that their house was in foreclosure. So they were set to be evicted from their house the day after this break in.

Yeah. And there was no boxes. Like, nothing was packed up. Kind of sketchy. Yep.

So the false victory is that the police couldn't make sense of everything, so they just accepted Nick's story and went on. But the plot twist is that Rachel, his new wife, Rachel. Whoa. And the crime was in Ramsey County. Rachel Ramsey.

That was my maiden name, if you didn't know. Oh, my gosh. Okay, so this is getting good. How little do you think you were a part of? I feel very connected to this somehow.

I know she found out that he wasn't paying property taxes, and their house was in foreclosure again. So then his new wife secretly recorded their conversations, and he admitted that he killed his wife. Wow. Isn't that crazy? So again, these situations, it's like a.

I'm not giving Nick any outs here. Okay. Thank. I'm glad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This isn't an output. Don't defend the murderer. The financial state that people are in. And again, it causes them to do crazy stuff, you guys like this. And it all started with this, like, facing the shame of communicating with the spouse, that this is where we're at financially.

George Camel
And so this is a real problem. Nick didn't have control of his spending, didn't have control of himself, and he was owned by whatever he was spending money on, which clearly not the bills, apparently. Yes. So instead of admitting the problem, asking for help communicating with a spouse, he hid the behavior. We call this financial infidelity.

Rachel Cruz
Yes, that's right. Yep. So you want to make sure, obviously, you're communicating with your spouse, but also that you don't let one spouse handle everything. Like, you want to be a team in this, and both spouses need to know what is going on and. And to understand everything.

I think it's really important. So, again, having somebody in your life, so whether, even if you're single, having a good friend that knows your life in this situation, because I think it's really important. And again, it helps your family avoid major financial disasters too, like overspending, because things can be addressed. If you know somebody's habits, you know, and something is going out in left field, you're able to help direct it or talk about it. Right?

George Camel
Yeah. I mean, we've taken calls on the Ramsay show recently where one spouse is like, hey, I'm $100,000 in debt, and my spouse doesn't know, and I can't tell him. I have to do this all on my own with only my salary? And we're like, you have to tell him totally. You gotta bring him into this.

Rachel Cruz
Totally. And I hope hers doesn't end in murder. That's right. We don't want that. Okay.

I think one of the big questions around this whole topic is, is it immoral that companies and platforms, they're making money off of these stories? And a lot of these are, this is not, like, a fiction book. A lot of these are real life stories with people. And. And so it's an interesting thing.

When we dove in and we're looking at it, there's kind of two sides to the coin, because for some families, I mean, they have attorneys fees. They have, like, a lot of costs that go into a situation or event that happens. And if somebody will capture their story and talk about it, like, there may be a way for them, if they. Get compensated, they can make that money to cover the court. And some people want.

And I was listening to a DAteline true crime podcast. But one of the family members said they wanted to come on and talk about it because they wanted to give. Voice to their daughter, raise awareness for the story. Yeah, there's that side of it, but then there's also the. The other side where you're like, oh, man.

George Camel
Well, it can re traumatize families depending on how the rights to their story are used, how the audience reacts. Cause the family doesn't have full control all the time of how the story is told. You know, what kind of light it paints them in or the person in. And so it can even establish unfair stereotypes about victims. And there's just an icky feeling to going like, you took this terrible thing and you made a bunch of money off of it.

Rachel Cruz
Right, right. So, you know, part of it is gross, and part of it is like, that's kind of the news. I mean, they're usually not sharing feel good stories. Yeah. Cause in one way, it's going to be told the story.

So for some families, I know it gives them, like, some level of control over how the story's being told, too, you know? So I don't know. It's interesting. George, what are your big picture thoughts on this entire genre? Are you still gonna be into it just as much?

George Camel
Is it still your number one genre? That and the Bible. Good. Mostly the Cain and Abel stuff is what she's into. I do.

Rachel Cruz
I do love a good murder mystery story. I did watch the one with Adam Sandler. That's a good one. Which one was that? It's the comedic drama mysteries with Jennifer Aniston.

George Camel
Yeah. Is it called. It's not called murder mystery. Oh, no. That one where they're on the boats when they're on the yacht.

Rachel Cruz
Oh, that's a great one. That's my speed. Okay, that's fair. That's actually a really funny one. So there you go.

George Camel
I'll leave the decision up to these nice people listening and watching. But I did my best to sway Rachel from true crime into more, you know, holy genres. Well, and all my crime doesn't have to involve death, though, because there was, like, the whole thing about, like, the college admissions scandal. Right? Like, I.

Rachel Cruz
Like, I listened to all those podcasts. I mean, there are some that you're just like. That's true. You're just addicted to drama. Maybe.

I don't know. I don't know. I'll stick to dark comedies dramatically. Maybe I'll come on your side. I do.

I like to laugh, too. Yeah. I just like a mix of both but I do love good storytelling. And truth be told, dateline 2020, these. Netflix documentaries, Keith Morrison, his voice, it's.

George Camel
More of a Lester Holt guy, myself. Oh, Lester. Okay, okay, I'll take it. I'll take it. I saw him once.

Rachel Cruz
All right, George. It's almost the end of the episode, and we close out every episode with guilty as charged. And this is where our producer, Lindsey, gives us a new guilty's charge question every week. And if we are guilty, we take a sip of the black widow. It's been too long, Lindsay.

George Camel
It's been too long. I know. This one's a good one, too. Okay. Have you ever gotten serious serial killer vibes from someone?

And maybe you've been totally wrong. Oh, and wrong about it? Yeah, like, they creep you out. Ooh. And maybe been wrong.

I stand by. Any time I get a serial killer vibe, I stand by it. I've had some gut. I've had some chances. I don't know if they've killed anyone.

Like, how do I know? I don't think I've ever, like, met somebody, and then I'm like, oh, my God. They were a silly serial killer. I saw them on the news. You're saying vibes.

Vibes. You know what? And I trust my gut on that. I think I've met some weird people in the world, and I'm like, something's off. Something's off, and I've learned.

Rachel Cruz
But the book of my other book, the gift of fear, great book. All ladies should read it. It's the number one thing most women that crimes were committed to, like, robbery or whatever. They were like, oh, yeah, I felt weird about them, but I felt bad. So I went, they didn't listen to the gut.

Whatever. Listen to your gut. Listen to your gut. So I've gotten weird vibes, and I have. I stay true to them.

I've never been proven wrong, I don't think, but it's usually in passing. It's not like any of y'all that I'm like, oh, my God. I got weird vibes from, like. And then it. Tyler.

George Camel
I found there are people on social media, like, you know, some weird DM's, stuff like that. There was one guy on Twitter who would dm me every once in a while, and he would just say, I see you at 10:00 p.m. george. What? That's it?

And, like, every once in a while, it would just be like, I see you at 07:00 p.m. and I was like, where's he gonna see me. And I think he was saying that, like, I'm gonna watch the Ramsay show at this time, but it still gave me the heebies, the jeebies, and the willies, to be honest. That would give that to me to. Give all the feels.

So, yes, I think with our role, we're more in the spotlight. So I feel like we're more uneasy about people. Well, and we're in situations, like, with you meet a lot of people. I mean, there's just, like, yes, you meet a lot of people, and there's just some. Some strange ones out there.

Not anyone watching this show. They're all very sweet, lovely people. We meet them at live events. They're wonderful. Y'all are wonderful.

Well, hey, dm us your guiltiest charged questions on Instagram to either of us, and maybe you'll see it on an upcoming episode. Yeah. All right, George, it's closing time. This was fun. This was a good one.

This was really good. Yeah, this was the black widow. I'm gonna give this. I mean, I'm gonna give it a ten out of ten. There's nothing I would change.

Rachel Cruz
I'm gonna go eight out of ten, because I don't think I would order it at a restaurant. But it was really fun for this episode. Yeah. And I do like a dark berry type drink. And here's what's in this one.

George Camel
The black Widow includes vodka chambord, which is a raspberry liqueur, activated charcoal powder. What? Oh, we use that for stomach bugs at our house. Wow. It's very holistic.

It's a health drink. What a holistic cocktail we are drinking. It has lime juice, so that's healthy. Oh, my God. A little bit of simple syrup and some peychaud's bitters.

And this is an expensive drink because of all that goes into it. It's a lot. $3.80 per glass, still a fraction of the price of what you would pay if you purchased this. So if you want to check it out and try it out for yourself, we do have some fresh blackberries in here, which adds to the ambiance, if you will. That's fun.

Rachel Cruz
Yep. Get the recipe in the show notes. Give it a try this weekend. It was delicious. Delicious.

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Money Motives Hidden in Shocking True Crime Stories

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