Fraud Fridays: The Science Grant Grifter w/ Aparna Nancherla

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It's your girl, Lacey Moseley, aka scam goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the scam goddess vault. That's right. Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall.

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What's poppin congregation? We are back with another episode of Scam Goddess. I know my voice has been different a lot lately. I don't want you guys to get used to anything. I will shriek again.

But right today, we're gonna keep it smooth jazz 100.

Smooth jazz, my venmo is. Did that sound good enough for you to venmo me? I don't know, guys. Let's get to it. I am so what?

Yes. Excited for our guest. This is the first time that I am meeting this hilarious comedian. Though I am very familiar with a lot of her work okay, we got the characters on here. Annie from Netflix.

We got Space Force on Netflix. We've got. And I'm saying we've got. But this is, like, things that she's worked on. You know what I mean?

And she's got a lot of credits, honey. I want her IMDb. And the bitch is full. But, guys, on the podcast today, we have actress comedian Aparna Nancharla. Hello.

Hello. How are you? I'm good. It does feel. It feels pretty, I don't know, exciting to meet someone on a podcast for the first time.

Right. It speaks kind of weird experiment that's happening, and it's been wonderful every single time. Yeah. Plus now it's like, everything is remote, so it really feels. You're like, what's it gonna be like?

Right. Cause you can't get vibes. Well, you can get vibes on zoom, but it takes longer. I feel like the vibe check takes a little longer. Yeah, exactly.

Aparna Nancharla
Everything takes twice as long on zoom in terms of reading the other person. Right. The vibe check is like, dial up. You just be there, like. Like, just waiting.

Lacey Moseley
Just waiting. Wait. Do you have any relationship with scams? Like, do you consider yourself, like, a scammer? Do you feel like you sympathize with people who are scammed and you feel bad for them?

Like, whose side are you on? And you don't have to be on anyone's side, because I'm not on anyone's side. Okay. Well, I think I'm gonna be wild and say I'm on everyone's side in that I really admire people who hustle really well and can just kind of convince people of anything, but because I don't have that ability at all. But I would say I relate more to the people who fall for scams because I would say I am one of those people.

Oh, really? You think you're one of those people? Wait, have you ever been scammed? I mean, like, I almost fell for one, but then I hung up the phone. I fell for one of those tax scams where they're like, we are the FBI, and we're gonna come to your house if you don't give us your credit card info.

Aparna Nancharla
And I was fully. Was like, they're gonna get me. I gotta give them the information. That's flavorful. I love that scan, but I also love that you did one of the things that's literally on the website, which was hang up.

Lacey Moseley
It's like, the first tip. It's like, to avoid scammers. They're like, hang up and you did it. But I did it so late. I did it right before it would have been too late.

Well, wait, Aparna, where are you from? I'm from outside Washington, DC. Outside DC? Okay. Yeah.

Do you feel like it was, like, a more urban area or more of a suburban area? If it's outside DC, it's probably the burbs, right? Yeah, fully the burbs. Okay, cool, cool, cool. So I feel like you was probably following a lot of rules and.

Aparna Nancharla
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this was in this. I mean, this scam happened in LA. Yeah, but I'm saying, like, that's your. Like, that's where you came from, right.

Lacey Moseley
So, like, those are my roots. Like, all that shit was just, like, up the street when you live. Yes, exactly. Yes. So I was like, I gotta respect that authority.

I love that. I love that. I hate authority. I like it. For everyone else, though, there would be chaos if we all abandoned it.

But if everybody else follows the law, I don't have to. Right, right. That's a good. That's a good way to live in general, honestly. That's the american way.

Aparna Nancharla
I am the exception to the rules. Right. That's the whole reason. Oh, my gosh. I was tweeting about this.

Lacey Moseley
Cause I feel like such a pretentious person to tweet about. Like, why are. You know, why are the working class, like, why are we paying all this money in taxes and blah, blah, blah? Right, right. Because everyone wants to be a billionaire and nobody realizes that they're not going to be one.

And, like, I have to find the tweet. There's a guy named Preston on Twitter who did a music video. I'll find it. I'll retweet it on my Twitter page for y'all. Every time I see a broke person capping or caping for a billionaire, I imagine that this is the beginning of their musical.

Ooh, you're like, I wanna be just like you, daddy moneybags. Yeah. Cut to act three. So I get, like, how did I get on that tangent? I don't even know, bro.

Aparna Nancharla
Oh, just in that we all think we're, like, the hero of the story. Things don't apply to us. That applies to the chorus or the background. And that was the vibe check. And the vibes are good.

Lacey Moseley
Cause, wow. I was not gonna come. I wasn't gonna come back and I was just gonna leave it there. And that would really piss people off. But that.

Aparna Nancharla
I feel like I set a false precedent. Cause I'm not usually the person who can keep track of all the threads. So I don't know how. Oh, no, I'm fully leaning on you now, so. Okay, great, great.

Lacey Moseley
Well, let's get into our first segment. What's hot and fraud? If you are a new listener, then what's hot and fraud is just a segment where we warn you guys about what's poppin in the scam community in the zeitgeist. Okay. A fraud.

And sometimes we read your. Actually, most of the time now we read your listener letters and we just get to hear about what shenanigans you're getting involved in. As always. Guys, if you wanna share a scam story on the podcast, scamgotispodmail.com dot snitch on your friends and family. Just make sure your bag is retired.

Cause we don't wanna ruin the scam if you got it fully in motion. Okay. And also, I'm gonna try to keep them ethical. Cause I read one the other day about returning Amazon books. And you can just return Amazon books, but what Amazon does is like, Jeff Bezos shows up to the author's house and he's like, hey, girl.

Hey, Roxane gay. Turns out the girls aren't hungry and we're gonna have to charge you for it. What? What do you mean? Yeah, like, they take it.

Like, audible takes it back from the author. They don't just eat the charge. So if you get an online ebook from Amazon, you can return it being like, I don't know, I didn't like it. And like, yeah, I shouldn't talk about this again. Cause I told you guys I might have to take this out.

Aparna Nancharla
Also, who's out here returning audiobooks? I know it's the nerdiest scam, but also I learned that it really hurts authors, so guys, don't do that. Authors are out here struggling to get their coin. Jeff Bezos is playing them. You know what I mean?

Yeah, that seems very cheap on Amazon's part, right? It's great. They don't need the money. They surely do not. Ooh.

Lacey Moseley
A recent thing I learned about Amazon before I read this letter is that. And this is like every store, apparently, when you are cashing out and they're like, would you like to donate to the red nose fund? Like. Or would you like to round your dollars up to $7 so we can give some things to the cancer? And you do it.

Cause you're like, oh, yeah, I do wanna donate, but they take all of our donations and then they file a donation in their name, take the tax credit. So that's so evil. That's, like, next level evil, where it's like, we're gonna seem like we're philanthropists, but we'll do it by taking your money. Right? I just.

I never knew that. And when I found that out, I was appalled. So now I'm like, I'm torn. Do I just not give them the extra quarter, or do I just like, yeah, I can't look. I can't.

Aparna Nancharla
You can't anymore. Now you know the truth. That's. Now I realize that's what Dwyne Reed is doing. Cause they do the same thing.

They're like, you wanna round up your purchase, and we'll give a mask to a child or whatever it is. It's always to a child.

Lacey Moseley
But that's the thing is, like, I thought I was doing this cute thing this whole time, and I was like, look at these companies giving back. No, they just playing us. I'm gonna start doing that myself at the end of this podcast. I'm like, do y'all wanna donate a quarter to chill treat?

Get my text write offs popping? Okay. I know. And it will be vague. It will be children.

Aparna Nancharla
Just children as a whole. Like, look, kids are cool. We like kids, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Lacey Moseley
That's honestly the best human form is when we're kids. We're nice and innocent. We're cute. We can maybe dance like. Yeah.

It all goes downhill from there. So, guys, wait. I said I was gonna read a letter, right? Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'll do what is promised. So let's get into it this. I need a fake name, Aparna. That's what I need from you. I'm gonna say Margot.

Margo. Ooh. Oh, did you want a last name too? Oh, throw me one if you got one. Margot Fairchild.

Margot Fairchild sounds very rich. Margot Fairchild invented a watercress sandwich. You're right. Oh, my God. Why you press in a sandwich, right?

Aparna Nancharla
And reinventing the game, right? Margot definitely has a t every Sunday where she demands a dress code and judges everyone. I like Margo Fairchild already. So Margot Fairchild says, hey, Lacey, this just happened to me this morning, and I had to tell you about it. Wow.

I love a prompt. Emailer just right has the idea to email emails. That's, like, not me. Two years late on the emails. Same.

Lacey Moseley
Oh, gosh, I'm really bad with emails, like, bumping this. That happens to me. Everybody's bumping all the time. Everyone is being marked as unread. Oh, no, I do that too.

There's so many stars. I know, I know. I wish they had that for text message. Yes. That's why I leave my receipts on.

Aparna Nancharla
That's what your fortune is gonna be marking. Text says on red. Oh, let me call up Tim. Apple. I'm trying to get a coin from him.

Lacey Moseley
I can't believe he hasn't done that already. But, yeah, I know. We get the same phone over and over again. Tim don't got nothing for the girls. He was like, look, I know my last name is Cook, but we order it now.

And Apple iPhones have nothing for y'all anymore. We're not cooking nothing. Here's two free. Two new emojis that you don't need now. Spend $900 for them.

Okay? Now, the iPhone can turn into an explosive device if we need to do that in your home. It's like, I feel like I was just trying to get information and be all in my business, but you're not giving me no features. No. Come on, Tim.

What are you cooking? Get to work. Get in the kitchen, Tim. Goddamn. So we got a prompt email from Margot Fairchild.

She says, I was at work, and I received an email from my boss about an urgent task. My boss asked to stop what I was doing and text him my cell phone number, and he would give me all the details. So she didn't read the full email, and she sent this person her cell. But it's her boss. So you would think, like, okay, I can trust this person.

Aparna Nancharla
I work for them. Right? Like, the email probably looked close enough. I've talked. If you are an OG listener, you know that we've talked about this scam before.

Lacey Moseley
It was happening to teachers a lot, and it's kind of now branched out to any industry where people can get on LinkedIn and get your professional email address. So then they get on. They get on the gmails or they get on the whatever, and they just make. They just put, like, one little period or make one little thing different. And if you're not looking carefully, how would you know?

Aparna Nancharla
How would you know? And it's your boss. So you're like, oh, I gotta do what they said. And that's so interesting to me because it's like, how do you find out that this is a subordinate employee? Like, were you on the company website?

Good point. Yeah. How do they do that? Do they look at your position on LinkedIn? They're like, they seem like they.

They're not in charge. Like, you click on the company, it's like they suit. All these suits look like they came from Express. So I'm gonna guess that you are not making as much money as your Paul. No shade, margot.

Lacey Moseley
No shade. We. I'm sure it's not what happened to you. I had a friend who put in his LinkedIn thing that he was the CEO of LinkedIn, but he spelled it, like, a little differently. But then people kept contacting him, being like, can you help me get more visibility for my business?

Wow. Imagine wanting to get more visibility for your business and thinking, I should contact the CEO of LinkedIn. Cause he's definitely. He definitely gonna know how to get my algorithm popping. Okay.

Aparna Nancharla
That's like gonna up my connections and endorse me for life, right? That's like me calling Mark Zuckerberg. And I'm like, look, I keep posting these thirst traps. I'm trying to get into the 20% of likes. Like, do you think I should show more ass or.

I love people who want help, and they just go to the. All the way to the top. All the way to the top. We joke about that on another episode with a terrible, problematic rapper, Lil Boosie, who literally was tweeting at a fake Mark Zuckerberg account. Cause Mark Zuckerberg doesn't have Twitter.

Lacey Moseley
And he was like, Mark Zuckerberger, get me back on Twitter.

It's like sucking pregnant. Give. Fuck my shit. Oh, no. But I love to.

I like the ambition of thinking that that person's so free, they can definitely help you. So we don't know how Margot got found out. We don't know how she. So I guess on LinkedIn, you do give a lot of information about your personal business life, and maybe that's how they got the information. Cause I know I have a LinkedIn, but as an actor, I never really felt it necessary.

So I just had it from college, I think. It says, I sell class rings for Balfour.

Aparna Nancharla
Class. Wow. I didn't even think of the idea that class rings are sold by someone. Like, that's their job. I was slamming my thoughts.

They just came from the earth or something. From the earth? That's because you never seen them in a store. Cause they're a scammer thing. It's a scammer job.

Lacey Moseley
Anytime you gotta set up a folded table, you doing fraud. Okay? That's all I gotta say. Because if you gotta set up a phone table, that means you don't got no office. Your office is everywhere.

You moving too much. That's just wework. And wework was a scam. You're right. That shit fell apart.

Aparna Nancharla
The theory is true. Cause they wasn't working up in there. No, they were not. They said, we work. Well, y'all pay bills.

Lacey Moseley
We just. Here. But we gonna say we work. So then they gonna think, like, they won't think about what we do. Right, right.

It's like, you know, wework. What are they really doing for us? Like, we're just renting space. No, no, no, they're working. Cause remember they said we.

They didn't say you work.

So we don't know how exactly, but this scammer has figured out that this person is employed by this boss and sends it through this fake email. So, Margaret, you know what I think? Maybe the way they. Maybe they didn't even know what Margot's position was. Maybe it's kind of like guys on online dating apps sometimes where they just message the most people and then some people will answer.

Aparna Nancharla
But it's just a numbers game. It's like we're just gonna contact all these people and say we're the boss, and see who bites back. You're right. And it has to be a numbers game because we've seen this scam pop up in several different industries. So it's like we're just somehow getting listservs and then just being like, hey, girl, it's me, your boss.

Lacey Moseley
Hey, Queen. It's I, your boss. Yeah, you're right. And then whoever is a boss might not answer, but they will have an existential crisis. Cause they're like, I'm the boss.

Yeah. You get an email from you that's like, hey, girl, it's me. Us. Just need you to send me your phone number. For me, girl, for you.

That could confuse me for a moment. So Margo says that this scammer text me and said that he was on a conference call and couldn't talk, but he needed me to get some gift cards for our clients and asked if I was near a CV's or a Walgreens. I thought this was odd since he knew I was at, but didn't give our. And like, we don't give our clients gifts, but occasionally maybe we did. So, you know, maybe it could have been true.

So she was like, one, you should know what's near the office. Cause we work at the same office. And also, like, if you aren't in the business of giving gifts, it doesn't seem like the one exception would be like, well, we gotta get them this cv's gift card. We gotta get them a gift card to Bass pro shop. The girls need the Home Depot make.

Aparna Nancharla
An exception just once for best protein. And they need it now. Okay. I have never needed a daughter gift card more than, like, what I need to go to outback. Okay.

Yeah. Applebee's needs the business. Exactly. Which recently, I've seen a lot of videos online about Applebee's and people turning up at Applebee's. And I was like, I did not know Applebee's was the turn up spot.

Lacey Moseley
Like, there's places in cities where Applebee's turned into the club on the weekends. Yeah, you gotta pay a $5 cover charge to go into an Applebee's. But is it like Applebee's after hours? Or is it Applebee's regular hours club vibe? It's Apple.

It's like, on the weekends, it's like the club. Like, they just become the club. Can you believe this? And, like, they be having the drink specials. But I didn't know.

I just thought it was always like, I don't know, place where you take your kids after the soccer game. Yeah, right. But they said, eating good in the neighborhood. And then on the weekends, they said, throw that ass in the circle in the neighborhood.

Aparna Nancharla
I like that they're doing a hard pivot in terms of their brand. I guess so. But it's. So, guys, maybe. I don't know.

Lacey Moseley
Maybe we need to go back to Applebee's. When they opened the restaurants y'all been dying to get to an Applebee's, which I don't understand. I would not die for Applebee's. Maybe they felt like TGI Fridays was getting all the weekend crew. They were like, we gotta change up our strategy.

Yeah. Cause TGI Friday, the whole thing is. Thank God it's Friday. Yeah, yeah. So they're getting the girls, who are like, happy hour.

Aparna Nancharla
Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. Then Apple piece was like, you're eating good in the neighborhood. Also, we got a dj playing Drake.

Lacey Moseley
So, basically, she's like, this is weird. So she decided to get up from her desk and see if her boss was in his office. Margo said that he was. And he was on the phone, but I was suspicious. So this actually worked out because, remember, he was like, I'm on a call.

Aparna Nancharla
Right, right. I guess in the office, like, what's the percentage of likelihood that you are on a call? Like, probably high. Yeah. Yeah.

Lacey Moseley
I feel like when you work at offices. Correct me if I'm wrong, y'all. Cause you know how to work at offices. I feel like you get on the phone a lot. It depends what you do.

Aparna Nancharla
I used to work in a lot of offices. It depends what your job is, some people is like, most of their time is on the phone, but other people, their phone is getting dusty. Right? Like, I'm trying to think of the independent office jobs where you just are, like, on the computer. There have to be some.

Lacey Moseley
I don't know what they are. Yell them at the radio. I can't hear you, but I do want to know. So she's like, okay, well, he's on the phone. The scammer said, I'm on the phone.

Okay, cool. But he already had some weird questions. So she told the person that the scammer that she was talking to, that she wasn't near a store, and they asked if she could look one up on Google.

Aparna Nancharla
They're making her do a lot of work. Right. And also, I'm like, if you could just look it up on Google, that means you could have did it yourself.

Lacey Moseley
Like, guys, when you hear things and you question yourself, like, that's when you have to have a confident moment and be like, how I feel is correct, what I think is right, and just stop. Like, you did a partner. Like, you just hung up. You were like. You entertained for a bit, like Margot, but at the end, you were like, just tell the FBI to pull up.

Aparna Nancharla
Well, then when I hung up, they called me back, like 20 times in a row, and I just couldn't pick. Like, the more they called me, the more I was like, this is not real. Yeah. The desperation of them. You know what it is.

Lacey Moseley
Cause they got you so close. Yeah, I know. I blue balled their scam. I don't know if that's an expression. People still.

It is. It is. I want to use it specifically for scams. I blue ball scam edging. I'm a scam edge lord.

Yes. Honestly, a lot of people who listen to this podcast are. Because I was like, are edge lords for scams? Like, they want to know. Oh.

Or edge lords. What? If I knew that, I'd throw that on the survey. Age, name, demographic. Are you an edge lord?

You know, we need to know. I feel like people would tell me, but, yeah, it's like they like to get. It's like me. Like they like to get close to the end of the scam. Cause you just wanna know what the girls are doing.

You're like, this is fascinating. Now, it's a case study. Right, right. So I fully understand this. So Margot immediately went back to her desk, she says, and read the email address and noticed that it was not from my boss's company email.

I forwarded it to his real email and asked him to confirm if it was him. So, okay, she's doing it. She's following her gut. I like it. Honestly, this is capitalism.

Because buying gift cards, Margot, buying gift cards don't sound like it's a part of your job description. Yeah, but because you need your job, Margot, I can tell you need your job. You were like, I don't know. Let me go and check. Okay.

I'm peered through the window. Okay. He is on the phone. Call. All right, let me get my Sherlock Holmes feather cap on.

Where's my magnifying glass? And, like, I gotta go look for clues. Like, she emails him. She's like this. You like.

Like, she's doing so much work where she could have just been like, I don't know. This seems weird. I'm not gonna do it. I can't believe I still. I think I'm reeling that the boss was on the phone.

Aparna Nancharla
Like, it feels like it chills that he was on the phone. Like they said he would be. Right. So you're right. Well, so she's.

Lacey Moseley
She forwards the email. Right. Turns out it wasn't the boss. Duh. And it was a scam.

The person had been targeting people in our company by using my boss's name. Don't know if they got any of my other coworkers, but I'm glad it wasn't me. And today is payday. Love the show. Thanks.

Also, you was gonna have to buy it with your own coin. Like, you weren't even gonna. I'm not buying it. So the idea was she would buy it and then she would get reimbursed for something. Yes.

I'm not buying nothing on the company dime. No. And, like, to say the capitalism thing to round that up. Cause I know I said it and then didn't fully explain, like, we need our jobs so badly that we're willing to do so much to keep them, and that setup is wrong. Like, I was watching, reading on Twitter.

Clearly, I'm on Twitter a lot. There was a person who had posted a text thread with their boss, and their grandmother, unfortunately, had passed away, and they had stepped out from work, and their manager texted them and was like, hey, you're supposed to be here at 11:00 a.m. like, where are you? Blah, blah, blah. And he was like, oh, I'm so sorry.

I didn't even think to call. My grandmother died. And the first thing the manager said was, okay, well, that's fine, but in the future, just, like, as soon as you can, give us notice and it's like, no, you put that in the follow up.

No humanity. Like, we are cogs and wheels. That's why I always say, don't give two weeks notice unless you think you really gonna need a reference for your next job. Like, you know, when you quit, just be like, I quit this bitch. That's what they would do to you.

They wouldn't be like, in two weeks, we gonna fire your ass. Right, right. It's like, why doesn't two weeks notice work for the other way? Right? Or even in restaurants, like, if a restaurant knows it's going under, they don't tell any employees because they know they might steal.

So you just show up thinking you got a job, and it's a chain on the door, girl, and it's locked up forever. That is so sinister. Yes. They do it in New York all the time. I think it happened to me.

I was going to the job, and I was like, hmm, hmm, hmm. To the job house. Like, get off my j train. I like that you said, I think it happened to me. Like, you blocked it out, like a repressed memory.

And it was just some chains on that bitch. I was like, wait a minute. The job left? Like, they could have called you before the shift started. Like, what?

Aparna Nancharla
That also just sounds like the beginning of, like, a horror movie where you're like, did I work here? What? Oh, see? From the minds of Aparna Nanchalla. Okay.

Lacey Moseley
Get your Jordan Peele on, girl. Get y'all. Get your locked out movie. It's not. Get out.

It's locked out. Yeah. Locked out. Oh, my God. Yeah.

No, so what I meant by that, to sum that up, was just like, look at how far she went. Because she was like, I need this job, even though this is not my job description. And also, sadly, there are people who would buy things. There are people who do buy things for their jobs when it's like, the job should be paying for all the tools to get the job done. Right?

Aparna Nancharla
Right. Like, I'm just here to bring the vibes. Yeah. I almost feel like they're not allowed to make you pay for stuff with your own money because it's like, it has to come out of there. You would think that, but in America.

I know it's all about loopholes. I mean, the teachers be bringing their own supplies for the children. So I was like, oh, my God, you gotta go buy your own construction paper to make the bulletin board. Oh, no. Oh, no.

Lacey Moseley
The american education system. The ghetto. So I just find this very interesting. So thank you so much. For sending in this story.

Margot, we love you. I'm glad you didn't get scammed. Yeah, I'm glad you were really thorough. I imagine this just being like some espionage type shit, like you went and spied on your boss.

It's really fun. So I'm glad that you didn't get stammed though, girl. And as always, if you guys want to write in and tell us about your schemes and your scams, that scam gottispodmail.com. we're gonna take a break for some non scam advertisements. We'll be right back with historic hoodwinks scams you can save every day by shopping at Whole Foods Market.

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And we're back and it's time for my favorite segment of the show, historic hoodwinks. Yeah. Yeah. What if I did that every week? You guys would hate me.

I didn't even try.

But, guys, it's time for historic wings. I'm going to regale Aparna with a famous caper. Con man. And we're just gonna get her opinions throughout. You know, see?

She's liking it. You know, sometimes we love em, sometimes we don't. The way of the world. So we have Professor Han and his. I'm just gonna call him Professor Hahn, just so I don't butcher his first name.

Professor Hahn and his research company, which he ran out of his garage, defrauded federal research funds for over $1 million for their own personal expenses. And by they, they mean him and his wife. Wow. Two person operation. And, you know, we like to keep it small.

Aparna Nancharla
I know that feels like a key part of a scam. You gotta keep it, keep the circle tight, right. And honestly, you should scam with your partner. Like, if you're married to someone, you should scam with that person. Cause y'all got spousal privilege, you know, y'all probably got a joint bank account.

Lacey Moseley
Like, it just feels like that's who you should be doing robbery with is like, whoever you choose to love. That does feel like the natural pick. But then they're the people who are scamming their partner. That's the same thing to me. That's not love.

What you mean love isn't like pin and routing number. Cause that's what I want my vows to be. You just recite your Social Security, your pin, and your routing number to me. And your favorite childhood pet.

Aparna Nancharla
Your mother's maiden name. Need that. Gotta have that if we're really in love. Your grandmother's mating name. So before Professor Han was a professor, he was a young boy in China that moved from place to place due to religious persecution and poverty.

Lacey Moseley
He worked as a farmer and construction worker until he graduated high school. So, you know, Professor Han was out here hustling. He really was. I can't believe he hadn't even graduated high school. He already had two careers.

And I told y'all, if your kid has too many careers in high school, they might be a scammer, okay? Kids who are that interested in money, they like crime. I know. Cause most kids just ask for what they want. But, you know, if the kid is like, no, no, no.

I really would like to make money, and it's not necessary for the household. You need to look into your job. I'm gonna need a little more allowance this month. Cause my business didn't come through right. I'm doing bitcoin.

Yeah, in between periods. I sell bitcoin to people, so. He works real hard, right? At 20, Han earned a bachelor's and master's degree in meta allergy at two technical universities in China. Wait, meta allergy?

No, I said that wrong. It's metallurgy, yo. I need. I thought it was, like, a philosophical approach to allergy. I'm still not saying it right.

I know I'm not maturinogy. You know what I was just gonna say. Normally, I say it real quick. I don't know why I put so much think on it when I knew I did not know how to pronounce it. I was like, in meta ralegies.

Y'all know metallurgies. That's when you. When you met her. And you also need Benadryl for your allergies, y'all. I went to college.

I swear. Anyway, so he's double, you know, degreed up from universities in China. He was the assistant professor at a university in Beijing for several years before he was accepted into the doctoral program in materials science at Oxford University. Ooh, Oxford University. Okay.

You smart. He just already lived a life, right? I'm like, you went to all the schools. Like, that's a lot of schools. Yeah, now you say it.

Like, also at 20, he got a bachelor's and a master's. That's not even four years of college. Right. He was doing college. Like, he came in there and worked college hard.

We love to see that. That was his first scam. Right? Cause then you can get it cheaper, I guess, if you. Yeah, yeah.

Aparna Nancharla
One year less. Right. So then he goes to Oxford where he got his doctorate. So now he's Doctor Hahn. Yes.

Lacey Moseley
Doctor Hahn. Doctor Hahn was hired as a professor. Doctor Professor Hahn. That sounds like a cartoon show. It's me coming to adult swim.

Doctor. Professor Han. It's definitely on adult swim. So Han was hired as a professor in the department of mechanical engineering and technology at Purdue in 2007. So now he's made it to the states and he's at Purdue.

Aparna Nancharla
Where is Purdue again? I want to say. Oh, is it. I want to say Malibu. Oh, I was gonna guess, like, Kentucky or something.

Lacey Moseley
Let me look at it. Let me see. Indiana. Okay. Wow.

I was really rocky. We both got it wrong. Pepperdine is in Malibu. Okay. That's what I was thinking of.

Okay. God, I just sound so dumb on this episode. Like, why have you been listening to this bitch? This is stupid. Usually I have some facts for the girls.

I'll be having some things for y'all, but, you know, today I'm just so. Purdue? Yeah. Hey, we can't all be Doctor Professor Hahn. Yeah.

I'm not Doctor Professor Hahn, okay? I don't have 5011 degrees. I have one and maybe two or three, you know, scam degrees. So I think I just like rhyming Malibu with Purdue. Anyway, so he goes to Purdue in 2007, so he's in Indiana.

Hahn published more than 200 articles, mentored dozens of Purdue students, led colleagues in over 30 research projects funded by public and private sponsors, and was the go to person for software. Light metal processing issues in manufacturing. You know, light metal processing issues? You know what those are? No, I will explain what they are.

So Professor Hans had a small business, and it was called Hans Tech. Ooh. Which I don't know about that name. We'll let you have it. Hans Technology company of Technology.

Aparna Nancharla
Well, he didn't have a degree in naming things. I guess you're right. He has his things. He has his metatrology. I have my naming things.

Lacey Moseley
We all have our lanes. So much of the company's research dealt with strengthening of the lightweight metals used in aerospace, defense, and automotive industries, according to the grant award abstracts. So basically, that's like when we fly into space. The girls need the ship to be light, but they need it to be strong.

Aparna Nancharla
And I'm like, is this a metaphor? No, it's not. That was me really giving you guys my educated explanation of lightweight metals and how you get them. I'm also just very pissed off about space in general. Like, we literally just.

Lacey Moseley
Space force, call back to your show. But, like, why are we going to space? There's a pandemic. Can we just fix that first? Like, Elon Musk is like, no, we going to the moon, y'all.

Elon Musk, I'm convinced, is a scammer. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I feel like every billionaire is a scammer, right? He had one good lane, which was making the Tesla, and then he started wilding.

I feel like he's like the Kanye of Silicon Valley, where he was just like, I can do anything.

Aparna Nancharla
I am part God, right? Cause that's how he ended up making that ugly ass Tesla truck is. Cause, like, that's like the equivalent of Kanye's new shoes that just look crazy. They're just like, people will buy anything I make. I am a genius.

Lacey Moseley
So now he's like, to the moon. And I'm like, girl, please stop giving this man money to go to the moon. If black people said we wanted to go to the moon, y'all would never give us money for that.

Even if we said we'd stay there, you'd be like, no, we can't believe that black people would go to the moon. It's too real. I can't even add a joke. Oh, no, it's fine. I have to joke about it.

That's how I stay alive. So, according to a purdue webpage on Han, he oversaw the metal casting labs, as well as research relating to the product of metals. We all know what these things are. Yeah. You know how it be in the metal casting lab.

Okay. I imagine it just like Grey's anatomy. Like, a bunch of white coat scientists just, like, getting horny for each other while they're fucking with the medals. Their hands touch accidentally. Next thing you know, they're in the scrap lodge.

They can help. I'm really painting a scene. I love it. I want this for them. I hope that scientists, like, we need a horny drama about scientists.

It's just like, they're just in the lab with the beakers, but it's, like, somehow so sexy. I want that. Yeah, I'm here. I would watch it. I just feel like every industry has to be sexed up.

We've seen the law so many times. We've seen the hospitals. We've seen police. Yep. We've seen the police.

We've seen firefighters yes. Metal processing. We're coming for you. We're gonna get there. 2021.

The horniest drama of all. So, basically, we just talked about how the Purdue webpage described his jobs. Hans Tech, that's his company, fortunate enough to be the recipient of multiple grants from the NSF, National Science foundation, small business technology transfer, and small business innovation research programs. So basically, this is like, if the girls are smart, but they don't have the coins, then we come in and we give them the coins so that they can make the things that we need. So during his time at the university, Hans received the 2007 Light Metals subject award.

What a niche award. Wow. It's so specific and honestly. But I would love to be a fly on the wall at that awards dinner. Right?

Do you think they have an open bar? Are they just serving red and white? Is it in a Marriott? It's giving Marriott dining room, airport Marriott. It's going to be Marriott basement vibe, not basement.

They can't even get the dining room. That's where they have the weddings, girl. Okay. We do these light metal subject awards down in the basement, near the extra plates. Yeah, yeah.

I will say this gives me FOMO, though, because I will never win this award. Like, to know that there's an award that I truly could never win. We're not in the running. Yeah. What's life about, man?

So I was awarded more than $300,000 in grants. So he got $300,000. Yeah. In grants. Because of that one award.

Yeah, that's what comes with it. When you win the award, they're like, and here's the coin with the award. That's like. That's like, more than a reality show, right? Also, like, y'all are calling it an award, but isn't it just a grant?

Like, they do award you the grant, but I've never. You getting a plaque with it, too, or something? Let them have this. Okay. You right.

I'm trying to take too much away from the scientists, and they don't deserve that. Okay? They don't have a lot. They don't get a procedural. I will say if you're a scientist right now and you're working on the vaccine, or even if you're not, like, get your instagram popping because the girls are horny for the vaccine.

I want to see you in the lab. Like, we got cultures, and I want to see you posing. Give me fits. Okay? That's what I want.

I want you in a hazmat suit giving the girls fashion. This is your moment to become famous. Cause I think, like, this is your time. Any random profession, someone can become famous if the star is all aligned. Like Joe the plumber.

The most famous plumber ever.

It just worked out. He was on a political trick campaign where they were. If it's gonna be anyone's year, it's gonna be the vaccine scientists year 2020. You gotta get. See, there's too many.

Like, Moderna's working on it. Pfizer. So who was the original girl? Like, we need a show. We need you guys to fight.

Like, I wanna know who. Who was like, eureka.

Aparna Nancharla
Eureka. I have it. That's how scientists talk, right? Yeah, yeah, definitely. They all have spiky white hair, but, yeah, I wanna know.

Lacey Moseley
I'm sorry. If I find the vaccine now, I'm tweeting immediately. Like, I want my credit. Yeah, that's like, on Twitter. Like someone trying to take credit for a joke that 500 people made.

Right. Which. There are some accounts that do that. I'm not gonna say no names, honey, but they have millions of followers. Like, you be stealing jokes.

You stole my jokes. Yeah. And sometimes you notice your joke's been stolen. Cause it's so niche. Yeah.

You couldn't have been thinking about this? What? I love the idea that someone's gonna come out of the woodwork after the vaccine comes out and be like, this was my vaccine, right? I thought of this in my basement in 2017. Honestly, if nobody comes out with it, I'm going to claim it.

I'm gonna call Nobel and tell him I deserve the piece. I better be getting my medal. Soft subject award. I already forgot what it was. Oh, the lightweight medals.

Now that you say that, I'm like, maybe that's how I can sneak my way into getting that award. And I also would like another award that is unrelated, but I deserve. So the scam. Han and his wife Xiao, used some of their funds to purchase a house in her name for $116,000. Which.

Okay, yeah, they gotta be in Indiana. Cause you ain't getting no house for that in Los Angeles house. Okay. Also, they took long enough to mention his wife. Right, right.

Cause he was. He was being a bad boy, getting awards working on the farm. And so she. The house is in her name, of course. And she signed a lease with herself as the landlord for 3000 per month.

So she bought the house and. And then basically said, I'm gonna rent it out and I'm the landlord and I'm charging myself $3,000 a month. Whoa. It was later revealed that over $150,000 of the NSF grant money. Mind you, that's just the grant money that he got for the awards, right?

Aparna Nancharla
Yeah. Yeah. That award that we've never heard of. Yeah. So that's half the money.

Whoa. Cause it was $300,000. So $150,000 of that grant money the company received was used to pay office rent at the location, which was their home. You know how office rent be at your own home? Oh, sure.

Lacey Moseley
You know, you think that's what all. The dentists are doing, where it's like the office is just a different side of their house? You know what I'm talking about? I do know what you're talking about. Cause I'm from Texas, and all the dentist office in Texas look like somebody's house.

Oh, my God. What if they living upstairs? It's all a scam. Oh, my goodness. You might be onto something.

Cause they all do look like you pull up and you're like, is this somebody's crib? Like, are they about to do braces to me? Like, do they know what they doing? You are right about that. Hmm.

Curious. Curious. I definitely say my office is in my house. Do you say your office is in your house? Yeah.

Aparna Nancharla
What do. I don't know any artists who have a different office somewhere else. Right? That's classy. That's when you start making money.

Lacey Moseley
Money. Yeah. Wait, so if your office is in your house, Aparna, how much are you charging yourself rent for your office? You know, it depends. I'm on a month to month lease.

Not a month to month. Like, look, right now I'm not. I'm getting coronavirus aid for my office rent separately from my house. Yeah, I'm sure somebody's doing it. So they did not inform the NSF that they were married.

Right. So, mind you, like, basically, he's now treating his wife like she's an employee, too. So the office is their house. The wife is the employee. Like, this is like.

Aparna Nancharla
This sounds like one of those logic puzzles. It's a happy scamily. You know what I mean? Like, they were like, we're keeping it in the family, okay? I love you, you love me.

Lacey Moseley
It's a happy scammily with a great big hook and a fraud. From me to you. Shout out to Barney. One of the realest to ever do it.

Aparna Nancharla
One of the original scammers, right? One of the original scammers. Barney, okay? He was a purple dinosaur. That shit didn't make no sense.

Lacey Moseley
And he was always trying to get me to do shit. Clean up, clean up. Everybody do your shit. Morning, he had me cleaning, and I thought that shit was fun. So they didn't tell the NSF, like, hey, things are shady over here.

Had that information had been revealed to the NSF, the National Science foundation rental payments for the property would not have been allowed. So that's why they didn't say anything, because they were like, he's basically giving the girls a Bill Gates moment. Cause, you know, we all hear about Bill Gates just being in his garage, tinkering with control alt delete. So he's like, that's what I'm doing, too. I'm in here.

Bill Gates in it. So I could have got an office with y'all's grant money, but instead, I bought this house where I Bill Gates it. Okay? That's what he puts on his tax forms. He's like, uh, this year, I Bill Gates sticks.

Aparna Nancharla
So. So you can write it. You guys know what that means? Yeah. You write it all off.

Lacey Moseley
So the couple's two children who were minors at the time. See a scammely little baby robbers. You'd love to see it. They also received salaries, these babies, of $24,000 for their supposed roles as secretary and technical assistant during funded research projects. Oh, my God.

You know, I like this because a lot of parents take out credit cards in their children's masks and fuck up their credit. Your kids put you on a payroll. They gave you the Beyonce treatment. They're like, you're blue Ivy. You're out here getting checks.

Aparna Nancharla
Yes, yes. You're already making money. Like, blue Ivy was the youngest person to ever feature on a song. She was an infant. They was like, blue ivy, get over and cool on the mic.

Lacey Moseley
Get to work. I feel like her ultrasound already had a career, right? Like, they just put this machine up, and they're like, she's just kicking in there, giving the baseline. I wouldn't be shocked. She is the most employed baby, and that's why I love her like I love an employed baby.

So we have two employed babies here who are doing the research and the technical assisting. So shout out, investigators. This is the wife. Their elder daughters started conducting research for the company while in high school and continued a consulting role when she left for college. Okay, so at least one of the kids is old enough that it's like.

Aparna Nancharla
Yeah, plus, it's like, her dad had, like, three careers when he was right. She's on track, actually. She's on track. Yeah. Cause he had, like, at least six degrees by then.

Lacey Moseley
No, I'm playing. He had, like, two, but he was like, keep up. Right? So kind of believable. In return for working at Han's tech, Han said the elder daughter would have her entire college tuition paid for.

So he didn't turn and paying baby's college into a job that he's filing with a grant that he got knowing damn well. But that's some good mental gymnastics there, though. I know. I'm just impressed by the ingenuity here. He was like, if you work for me, I will send all of your money directly to Purdue admissions office.

Aparna Nancharla
Right.

Lacey Moseley
Like a parent does.

I love this guy. I think that this was great. So, child told investigators that her older daughter's contributions to the projects made the payments legitimate. So she's like, she was really working. Like, she.

Aparna Nancharla
Oh, right. She was getting the medal. She was seeing if it was light. You know, she worked. The daughter worked a substantial amount on paper involving grain refinement.

Lacey Moseley
Oh, so she works substantial amounts on a paper involving grain refinement. So, basically, he gave his daughter a homework assignment. Assignment. Yeah. And then was like, yay.

College tuition paid one paper. That's how you work here. So, getting caught. The National Science foundation grew suspicious of house research and lab, began an investigation with assistance from the FBI. So, this is how they kind of got suspicious of Hahn.

Doctor Hahn. Professor. So, in January of 2017, a woman named Patricia Crowder. Sounds like a hater. I know Patricia Crowder.

It's crowded in here. Like, we need you to get out. So, she bought the home from the couple, and then Crowder said about six months after moving in, she was contacted by the National Science foundation. Oh, no. So she bought the second home.

Cause, remember, they bought two homes with the grant money. They really balled out. And then they paid the rents for the office in the home and the garage office. Yeah. And the tuition.

So, the second home, they're like, let's sell this home. Like, let's give it to the girls. So they give it to Patricia Crowder, and then here comes the FBI. Like, uh oh, hello.

So, they came to the house, and they wanted to look around. They wanted to know about smells and stains and plugins and stuff like that. Why? They wanted to know if I knew the people and I didn't. So I'm guessing what this is.

Is like them being like, are you a scientist? Are you. Do you know anything about. Do you work for Hans Tech? In, like, the most chill way.

She didn't even have to probably do this. She probably would have been like, FBI. Go away. And also to be like, we're here to search for stains and smells like. You're not gonna let that, right?

Like, no. You can flash that badge as quick as you want. This is no for me. So. Guilty.

So the NSF gathered through evidence that they could take this to court. So both Han and the company were placed on probation for two years and sentenced to pay restitution of $1,351,956 to the National Science foundation and $300,000 to the Indiana Economic Development Corps. And Hans was also fined $25,000 and charged $100 special assessment fee. The $100 is petty. I know.

Aparna Nancharla
That part is like, okay. And also $100 for me for my troubles. And so along with, he got all of that and 200 hours of community service. So Xiao herself was not placed on probation. That's his wife.

Lacey Moseley
Nor was she made to pay a fine, though the company she represented was barred from participating in any. Any federal programs and charged a $400 special assessment fee. I don't know what the special assessment fee is. Yeah. What does that mean?

Aparna Nancharla
It's so vague. Like, the government loves to throw in a charge, and it's like, what are y'all? It's almost like they feel like you're gonna be too tired at that point to fight it. So they just add some charges at the end. Cause they're like, you're already sick of dealing with us, right?

Lacey Moseley
They're like, let's sprinkle some fees for some little razzle dazzle. You know, let's season this on up. You're right, because it's like you don't want to. No one wants to deal with the court system. So we're like, all right, $500, and y'all never call me again.

Great. Yeah. Like, that's their whole point, is to be a pest. So also, I feel like he. I don't know about you, but I feel like at this point, I'm sort of like.

Aparna Nancharla
I don't really think he did anything bad. Like, he's sort of following this. Not to generalize all immigrants, but I have immigrant parents, and I feel like there is this thing of, like, save money any way you can. And he just did it on a sort of bigger scale. That's true.

Lacey Moseley
And also, I mean, he was researching, like, he did know about the light. You know, he knew enough to win the grant. He made his kids do research. I don't know, y'all. This feels like.

That's why I'm glad that they didn't put him in jail. So they say. Though, Han reportedly made strides in his research, even filing some patents and beginning the process of commercialization. He still used the funds that should have been given to more deserving, more honest candidates. I don't know.

I agree with you, Aparna. Like, if I'm doing all this research for free, like, I should have my bills paid and my kids should be able to go to college. Yeah. So the lawyer contended that though he said that Han made a mistake and criminally received a federal grant fund, and he still. Even though that happened.

Right. So even though he did kind of steal it, he still completed useful research for the auto industry. Work that could lead to cars being built with more efficient metal that are lighter and stronger. So he's still out here giving the Ford, you know, built for it. Tough.

Aparna Nancharla
Yeah, I. Professor doctor Hahn, I think I like you. You was taking care of your scammerly, you were putting your kids through college, and you actually did some research. I don't know, I feel like the NSF. Y'all are haters.

Yeah. It's not like he was using the money to, like, move to Mexico. And also, if, like, you gave him the money, like, why are you following up so much? Like, I mean, follow up. Like, hey, have you made anything new?

Lacey Moseley
Is this helping the research? But you don't need to follow up. Like, did you use it on your light bill? Or like, I see you got a gardener now. Who is that?

That better not be science money you paying him with, like, I don't know. Well, guys, we're gonna take a quick break with some non scam advertisements, and we'll be back for the saddest part of the show when I have to let Aparna go. Robbery. Do you have an unemployed roommate at home? You know who I'm talking about.

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Sometimes we hate their goods. So this is Jennifer Alejandra, and she's accused of scamming more than $160,000 from Walt Disney World when she worked for the company in a position involving resolve guest complaints. Oh, my gosh. I'm intrigued already. Have you ever worked in customer service?

Aparna Nancharla
I. Yeah, I used to work at ll beans in ll beans. Ll bean in returns and exchanges at the mall. I bet that was pleasant. It was pleasant, I think, because their clientele is, like, very wholesome white people.

Lacey Moseley
They are. They're just like, oh, I'm sorry to bother you, but the shoe stabbed me in my foot when I was hiking. Yeah, no, because I. I used to date a guy who, like, was really into ll Bean to the point where he was like, come on, you have to get some ll bean boots with me. And I was like, okay, I returned them shits.

Aparna Nancharla
But I think you're right, though. I think their customer base is, like, extremely loyal. Where it's like, I grew up on bean, and I'll die on bean. That's what it was. His daddy was a bean, and he was like, I am a bean, too.

Yeah. If you want to be with me, you gotta be with ll Bean. I was like, okay, I guess I'll get with them. So this woman, Jennifer, her job involved offering cash refunds to guests who were unhappy with their experience for any reason while visiting Disney. That's a lot of power, right?

Lacey Moseley
Ooh, too much, but I like it. Her role was also. It gave her the opportunity to offer free tickets for instead of compensation. So, two years between March 2016 and July 2018, she allegedly. Allegedly issued more than 40 fake refunds and directed the cash towards the bank accounts of people that she knew.

Mmm, girl, I know Mickey somewhere smiling on you, girl okay, so guests still receive their refunds, but money was stolen directly from her former employer. In total, she's accused of making more than 40 fake refunds, varying from a few hundred dollars to several thousand dollars through a combination of checks and credit cards belonging to her friends and family. Wow, that's gambling. She was like, hey, y'all. Y'all trying to get these passes?

I don't even know what they got at Disney. I went to Disney World so long ago. I haven't been to Disneyland. Have I been to. I think I've been to both.

Aparna Nancharla
I think the last one I went to was Disney World, like, seven years ago. Oh, yeah. World is cute. They would scam us by making us do. I think I was scammed, but I think I actually was scammed by Disney World.

Lacey Moseley
Oh, God, it's coming back to me. So when you were in choir in school, you would. I went to school in Florida for a little bit, and they would be like, oh, it's time for the choir's annual trip to Disney World. And we all going to Disney World. And we didn't have to pay to get into Disney World, but we did have to low key work.

Like, we had. We had to go perform our songs. For people at Disney World. Yeah, it was just like, vibes. We was just providing vibes.

I was like, the Walt Disney homie. Was I supposed to be doing, yeah. They put you to work, but you're. Like, oh, is Disney World, like, oh, okay, this is our trip. Like, right?

You don't think about it. Yeah, but they're probably like, how can we get children to sing at Disney World and we don't have to pay them? It's like, contract. You know what I mean? And then if they fall or something, we can't.

They can't sue us.

Gotta love capitalism. So. Oh, no. So I have to tell y'all the end of this real quick. So she's accused of doing all this shit.

She was working with her friends and family. Investigators were able to track where her transactions went after noticing that Jennifer appeared to be friends with seven of the people on her Facebook page. Oh, no. Yo, when I tell y'all the feds are on Mark Zuckerberg's app. Oh, yeah.

Y'all gotta stop. Stop posting and also, like, stop giving so much of your personal information. We've talked about this. If you are doing crime with people, you should definitely not have a direct link to them. You know, it shouldn't be, like, have so much fun doing that crime yesterday and then, like, so and so hard at this.

Or, like, why are y'all. Why? I know. Remember MySpace? I feel like it's.

Aparna Nancharla
It would be like if in your MySpace, top eight with all of your. All your accomplices.

Lacey Moseley
Yeah. Don't put your accomplices in your top eight. You gotta just spread that out. Also, like, the feds, again, are on Facebook. Sometimes I see, like, scammers or people like, oh, I got a felony.

But I still got that thing on me. And it's like, the gun and all the money. Or like they're posing with lots of hundreds all the way down their arm. And I'm like, y'all, the feds love Facebook. Okay?

It's made their job so much easier. I bet between that and 23 andme, they're done. They can call it. Damn. That's why I don't do 23 andme.

Cause I got killed. I got family with strikes. I don't want them pulling my cousins in. But, oh, my God, that makes so much sense. Cause I wonder how hard it was to be in the FBI.

Back before all this modern technology when you was just on foot, you were just going door to door, door to. Door, being like, does this person look familiar? Please help. Right? Please help you outside.

Like, you probably needed to use a stapler gun a lot back in olden times. FBI. Totally. It's like a little kid with the missing dog, right? They're like, criminal.

Have y'all seen this man call us. Yeah, that was probably trash. Now they can just get online and be like, gotcha, bitch. So one relative didn't question a deposit of $18,567 when it allegedly appeared in her account, which she said went to be used for bills and school books. Another friend allegedly received $24,000.

Jennifer had been booked into the Osaka county jail or Osaka Osakola county jail on a first degree felony and grand theft charges. Wow. Wow. I mean, she was helping her friends and family, though. I know that's like the farthest reach of when you work at the gap or something.

Aparna Nancharla
You're like, you can use my discount. It's like that. She took the gap discount and she said, this is how I win.

Lacey Moseley
Yeah, you're right. She had too much dip on her trip. She could have just been the girl who gave out the Disney tickets. Y'all could be reselling the Disney tickets or below for the vip and all that. You didn't have to start giving away 24,000.

24,000. You thought they weren't gonna start seeing that they were missing their money. That's the thing about corporations. They will always. It may take some time, but they will be like, hmm, bitterman.

Aparna Nancharla
I think. We'Re missing some money.

Lacey Moseley
So, guys, I think I like Jennifer. I'm sorry. I think I like her, too. I like that she's spreading the wealth, right? She was just redistributing.

She was like, if y'all don't pay taxes, I'm gonna pay them for you. She was like Robin Hood of Disney World, right? I love her. I love this for her. All right, guys, well, we've reached the end of the show where I have to let aparna go apart.

We always ask, where do you want to be found? Oh, on the Internet. Yeah. Or wherever you want to be found. We don't want you to be found.

Places you don't want to be found. I'm on, you know, I'm on Twitter, Instagram. I think those are probably my most posted plan. Like, I have a website, but it feels rude to even tell people what it is because it has never been updated. The first time I googled you, I found it.

I saw your website, and I was. Like, oh, it comes up. It's first. It's first. And I.

I was like, look at her being classy with a website. All classy. I don't have a website. Cause it just feels like another thing to do right now. I wanna go to people's websites.

I'm like, my website's Instagram. Yeah, go to my website there. Okay. And that's just your name on all platforms, right? Yeah, it's just a par napkin, but pretty much you put in a parna.

And you'll find me a par napkin. Guys, on all platforms. Anything you wanna promote. I know you have a special coming out. Not special.

You have a show coming out. I don't know what it's like. Oh, yes, yes, yes. A show in January. I have a special clue.

Aparna Nancharla
January. This show, animated show called the great North. I do a voice on it, so that comes out. Yes. So look out for the great North.

Lacey Moseley
I love animated cartoons, so I'm definitely gonna give this a watch. And as always, you can find us@scamgottispodmail.com dot stitch on your friends and family. Find us at Scamgottispod on all platforms. And I'm talking like an auctioneer. You can find me at D I V a L A C I.

Diva Lacy on all platforms. Congregation, stay scheming. Scam goddess. This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam goddess is starring me.

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Fraud Fridays: The Science Grant Grifter w/ Aparna Nancherla

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