Primary Topic
This episode of "Fraud Fridays" features Lacey Mosley and guest Lala Milan discussing various scams, including a personal anecdote from Milan's past involving credit card scams at her workplace.
Episode Summary
Main Takeaways
- Scammers exploit both systemic vulnerabilities and individual naivety.
- Employers may inadvertently facilitate scams by underpaying and overworking employees.
- The legal system can be slow and ineffectual in addressing scams, as seen with tenant rights protecting squatters.
- Personal vigilance and awareness are crucial in recognizing and preventing scams.
- The discussion emphasizes the ethical gray areas and societal impacts of scams.
Episode Chapters
1. Introduction
Lacey Mosley introduces the episode and guest Lala Milan, setting the stage for a discussion on scams. Milan shares a personal story about her indirect involvement with scammers. Lacey Mosley: "What's Poppin congregation? It’s your girl, Lacey Mosley, aka scam goddess." Lala Milan: "I'll let you swipe as many cards as you want to."
2. Listener Story: The Squatters
A listener’s story about squatters using fake lease documents to occupy a house illegally. The chapter explores the challenges the real homeowners faced with the law and squatter rights. Lacey Mosley: "So this couple scammed the police saying that, oh, you know, hey, we got tricked into moving into this place." Lala Milan: "They said, we got scammed in the. Dog, and you know it's gonna work."
3. The Impact of Scams on Society
Discussion on the broader implications of scams on individuals and society, exploring the ethical and moral boundaries of scamming. Lacey Mosley: "They be scamming us, right? I mean, every corporation is, like, squeezing the blood from a stone." Lala Milan: "Yes, indeed, yes. Look, come on. I won't call the cops as long as you leave it and not leave it under the tire."
Actionable Advice
- Always verify any legal documents related to property or significant transactions.
- Be cautious of too-good-to-be-true offers, as they are often precursors to scams.
- Educate yourself on tenant rights and property laws to avoid being exploited by squatters.
- Use secure payment methods and monitor financial transactions regularly.
- Report suspicious activities to authorities to help prevent scams from spreading.
About This Episode
It's Friday, con-gregation! We go back to our episode with Lala Milan, to unpack a man who stole dozens of women’s hearts… and also their wallets. Stay vigilant! Stay schemin’!
People
Lacey Mosley, Lala Milan
Companies
Walgreens (mentioned in context of Milan’s story)
Books
None
Guest Name(s):
Lala Milan
Content Warnings:
None
Transcript
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Lacey Moseley
What's Poppin congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Moseley, aka scam goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the scam goddess vault. That's right, fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall.
And as always, stay scheming. Scams, cunt. Robbery and fraud. Scams.
Robbery and fraud. Scam goddess, what's poppin congregation? It's your girl Lacey Moseley, aka scam goddess. And we back for another Instagram installment of this nonsense. Y'all know what it is.
Lacey Moseley
Look at that. I sound like a little disc jockey or something. I don't know. I was trying to switch it up for y'all. Okay, well, here comes the regular part.
Say it with me. I am very, what? Excited for this guest, and I truly, truly am y'all. Like, this is a huge get. She is a comedy queen.
You've seen her on Boomerang. She has her new Poppin podcast out now on Stitcher called the Salon. We've got Lala Milan. Hey. Hey, girl.
Hey. Oh, my God. I'm so excited. You literally have been bringing me joy and laughter for so long, so this is just so wonderful. Also, I have to just say.
Lacey Moseley
I have to fangirl for a second. I loved your savage fenty campaigns. They were. Oh, thank you. Your body looked amazing.
Ooh. Come on. Gas me up then. Yes. Okay.
Goong goon. Okay. With this ex. Come over, bitch. I got you with the gas.
Come on. Thank you. Yes. Your body looks so good, and you were so funny, so I was, like, entertained, and then I was like, wait a minute, this is an ad. And then for a moment, I was scammed by Mark Zuckerberg.
Lacey Moseley
Cause I was like, I'm just watching this like, I thought it was content, and I was like, oh, they sell me pins.
Yes. They knew who to choose when it comes to trying to tap into something different, you know? Yeah, they did a good job. Cause I was like, next thing I knew, I was laughing, and my hand was on my credit card, and I was like, how did this get in my hand, girl? But did you swipe, though?
Lacey Moseley
Listen, head to, you know, listen. Anything Rihanna's out here hawking, I'mma get. Okay? She may not give us an album right now, but I will listen to these lip glosses. Look, and that's fine.
The lip glosses, the skin, the lingerie. Girl, you could get everything but the album right about now. But she making her coins, okay? Right. I feel like if you put on all her products at once, you can hear the music.
Maybe. You know what? I think in one of the disclaimers, it did say music included upon purchase of every item, so. Hey, hey, you know what? I love Rihanna.
Lacey Moseley
She's a great. I don't know if she's a scammer, but she's a queen. So, wait, I have to ask you, Lala, do you have a relationship with scams? Have you ever been scammed? Have you ever run a scam that you can talk about without the statue of limitations?
Girl, y'all trying to get me arrested. They ain't telling me that was a predator. Okay, so I've never scammed anybody, but I've seen people scammed. And something that I did do back in the day when I was working at Walgreens, I knew the scammers was coming in during the credit card scams. And so I would tell them, I'd be like, I'll let you swipe as many cards as you want to.
Just leave me a gift card under the tire of that white Chevy Malibu outside, and, you know, we'll be good to go. Because Walgreens wasn't paying me enough. I was overworked and underpaid. So when the scammers came in, I'd be like, I know what you doing, and for a small fee on a gift card, I'll let it ride. So that's the closest I ever got to scamming.
But I don't think that was scamming. I think that was genius. That was genius. And that's what we call a middleman, okay? Like, okay.
Yes, indeed, yes. Look, come on. I won't call the cops as long as you leave it and not leave it under the tire. Very slick. Very.
Lacey Moseley
Like, who could not? Yes. Don't leave it on camera. Don't pass me nothing. You doing too much.
You making a block hot. Okay. Especially at the end of the night, when my managers ask a question, it's like, I don't know. Their money wasn't sure. Once I learned that their money was insured, I was like, oh, bye.
Good day. They be scamming us, right? I mean, every corporation is, like, squeezing the blood from a stone when it comes for the workers. And then they're turning in record profits every single year. That's how they continue to make money.
Lacey Moseley
Like, you get more investors. Yeah. And then the little man gets squeezed dry, so. You did the right thing. I don't think I approve of this.
Thank you. Technically, you didn't do any crime. You were addicted to crime. You were in the cul de sac of the crime. You know what I mean?
Yes, yes. That's perfectly fine. Okay, well, we have a listener letter from someone. Wait, I need you to give me a fake name. Like, just any name.
Okay. Um, we could go with Slim thicciana. Slim thickiana. Okay. Slim thickiana says, hi, Lacey.
Lacey Moseley
I was snooping on nextdoor. Which nextdoor is that app for, like, nosy neighbors, mostly white people, to keep tabs on the new brown. That's funny. Okay. Right?
That's a real thing? Yeah, next door. It's like a neighborhood app. You get on there for the tea. So, like, if the cops come, then you go on next door, and they'll be like, oh, the cops came.
Lacey Moseley
Cause so and so a stole or whatever. Oh, I need to get on there. It's messy. It's messy. There's probably one for your neighborhood, too.
It's really big in LA. Okay, I'm gonna check it out. So, this slim thickiana says, I was snooping on nextdoor, and I found this really interesting con. The person posting it was the victim. I'll paraphrase it for you.
Thank you, slim thickyana. Cause, you know, we don't like no long emails. So it says. So this person bought a house, and while they were in closing process, a couple and their dog broke into the house through the back door and are now refusing to leave. The new homeowners called the cops, and this couple gave some sob story about getting scammed into a fake lease and how their dog has cancer.
Damn. They gave the dog cancer, too? They said, we got scammed in the. Dog, and you know it's gonna work. You know it's gonna work.
Cause, you know, people love their dogs listen. And police listen. You better off saying your dog have cancer than being black instead of kay. I wasn't even gonna say nothing. But you did.
Lacey Moseley
Oh, you are fully welcome to say it on this podcast. Everybody knows. Also, please stop leaving comments on my podcast talking about you as Trump supporter and you feel dejected listening to this show. I don't make this show for Trump supporters. Okay?
Now, if you want to listen and cringe every now and then, that's on you. But y'all know I'm not over here giving racist joy anyways. If they support Trump, they support racism. And I'm surprised that means that they're supporting you. That's awkward.
But some. I don't know. I'll be feeling like people do their research all the way. But who am I? I'm not into politics.
No way. Not that laugh. I can't. I wish you guys could see Lala. Her face is so expressive.
Lacey Moseley
Yeah, no. I mean, we get into it every now and then, but that's not really what the show is about. But I hate when people leave me reviews. Like, you know, I wish you'd just lay off the politics. And it's like, I wish that politics were, like, for you, where, you know, they don't really matter, but, you know, niggas is getting killed.
So guess what? I gotta get involved in politics. I gotta march. My feet hurt, you know? Yeah.
Freedom is exhausting. Okay, nobody said I. When I look at all the pictures, they look cute in the pictures, though, right? Like, MLK was in the fly suits. Okay, there were some dogs and some hoses, but for the most part, it looks about.
What picture? The one picture that you referred to that you. That I think that you saying thank you was MLK at the podium, child. And him raising his hand with all the millions of people right there. The million man.
That's the only cute, glorified picture that I see. The rest of them, child, you see hoses. It's all in black and white. Anything in black and white. Just give me a struggle anyways, okay?
It was just all bad. That's the struggle. Filter. You are absolutely right. But I didn't realize until I had to get my black ass out there, start marching this shit.
Lacey Moseley
I was like, oh, my God, this is exhausting. Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. Why do you think Auntie Rosa wasn't trying to move to the back? Her feet was hurting already.
Auntie Rosa had been in the struggle at that point. She was like, no, you don't understand. We just got off the march. I'm sitting here. Yes, I'm sitting right here.
I ain't going nowhere. Y'all gonna take me to jail? Cool. Just pick me up. Bye.
Lacey Moseley
Right? Can y'all lift me off the bus? Thank you so much. That's it. So this couple scammed the police saying that, oh, you know, hey, we got tricked into moving into this place, and also scruffy got the cancer, so, you know, help us out.
So since they're new owners and haven't moved in yet, the couple that's on next door, the cops are saying that they should settle this in civil court, which could take months. Even with proof of purchase by the owners, the squatters are protected by tenants rights with the fake lease papers. The cops apparently didn't even check to verify the lease papers at all. They were just. That's how you know these people weren't black.
Because if they were, they would have not only been, they would have looked. It up and down with a magnifying glass, a zoom lens from the iPhone 13, everything, right? I feel like they would have verified the papers by pulling out they night sticks and beating on them. I feel like they would have never even read the papers. Why you playing?
For real. For real. And then ask questions later? Right? Like, oh, they had papers.
Lacey Moseley
Damn. We did not even ask, honestly, right? We came in and didn't have a conversation at all. Yes. So this lovely caucasian couple.
I love a caucasian con, though. Listen, if I was white, I would be doing caucasian console all the time. I would use my alabaster and, like, really just milk it. Milk it dry. You know what I mean?
Your alabaster. Your alabaster. Oh, my God. Listen, if you got. What kind of show do they got me on?
Oh, my God. To all the white people out there listening, y'all are lit. And I know that y'all are not racist, because for them, I'm weak. I am weak. They probably, like, there's a whole bunch of white people who love when black people keep it real, and they love it because they're allies.
So shout out to y'all, y'all lit, right? They are lit. And look, we're not saying nothing bad about white folks. I'm just saying there's privileges that I don't have. And if I had them, I would be riding them to the wheels fell off every single day, okay?
Period. I know that. So the cop says, y'all gotta go settle this in civil court. The homeowners have tried contacting the squatters directly. They've looped in their realtor and even hired an attorney.
Lacey Moseley
They've tried shutting off the utilities, but the squatter seems to know the loopholes to get they shit turned back on. That's literally what.
The homeowners even tried getting the squatters car towed. They have multiple records of eviction over the last few years, and they've had multiple break in disputes with other realtors in the area. So this isn't their first rodeo. For sure. They know what they're doing now.
It's just even easier with COVID eviction regulations. Shit's fucked. Didn't even realize it was possible for someone to steal your house like that. Damn, that's insane. It sound like they be living rent free everywhere that they go.
And they done did it so much that they literally built up a repertoire of tricks to not get kicked out of houses that they're not paying for. Absolutely. And here's the thing, though. I know a lot of people hear this and be like, see, this is why we need to change the renter's laws. And people are taking advantage.
Lacey Moseley
However, you have to think about the situation that these scammers are in too. Like, if you're in a situation where you were willing to move whenever you get run out of a house that you broke into and squatted in with no furniture and possibly no utilities, you're probably in a bad spot financially. Uh, you know, a lot of scammers aren't in a bad spot financially. A lot of them are just greedy because they be scammed. A lot of them be scamming their way to riches and then just get used to not having to pay for stuff and don't want to go legal because it's easier to make quick money or to save money.
So these people possibly could have a whole business or could possibly be saying, they out there homeless. You don't seen it. If they doing this, trust and believe they doing something else because they paying the bills at the house. Right. But do you think though, like, I think, like, when you talk about the credit card scammers earlier at Walgreens, I feel like those people might be scamming to excess and using that to go by, you know, iconography, like Gucci, Hermes, whatever.
Lacey Moseley
But I feel like if I was a scammer, at least just as a human being, I don't want to move every three months or whenever the law comes and forces me to scoot out. Like, I don't want to potentially be homeless every, you know, other day. And I feel like that's the place where I wouldn't be trying to scam. People, be different, sis. People be different.
Like some people, the people who squatting in these houses probably, like, I would never go into a store and swipe somebody else's credit card, but they dang sure gonna squat in somebody else's house. There's different types of scammers, you know, it just depends on your preference. We talk about a lot of different scammers. I don't know, I just tend to feel for the scammers, especially in situations like this. Cause I just don't know.
Lacey Moseley
I guess me, like, I need to know where my house at every day. Like, I don't want to come back to my house. And they like, nah, like, but see. They done found the loopholes. They probably have to give them a note of like notice of twelve days.
Look, we're about to go ahead and take you out. Like, they done did this multiple times and now at this point it's like, oh, we'll never have to pay rent again. Let's put that money into mind you. They said they tried to get their car towed. Girl, they got a car.
Okay, they got a car. But people be living in their cars though, and be home. But they're not, they're not. They live. Yeah, they are living in other person's house.
Yeah. So these people, they done figured it out. They just living rent free, but they put their money on stuff that they think is more important. Look, Lala is a hard working woman and I can tell right now she is not a scam empathizer. I am a scam empathizer.
Lacey Moseley
But I appreciate this contrast. Cause we need somebody to come on and have the contrast. Cause everybody usually just lets me like bully them into liking scams. So I love girl so much. I'm not gonna lie that they got going on at this point.
Like, I'm like, dang, let me go find some loopholes. Prime example, right? There's these. My boyfriend was working at Google one time and he was like, there is a homeless guy who would sue Google. He sue Google and won millions of dollars and he's still living homeless, but now he advocates for the other homeless people out there.
He was super intelligent. He just basically knew all the loopholes to everything. And he sued multiple companies and he's a multimillionaire off of winning, you know, lawsuits against these huge companies. So I say that to say some people just enjoy doing what the hell they do. They learn it and it's like, well, hey, you know, and he literally still be living homeless now.
Hell yes. Yes. I need to find out who this man is. But he's helping people. That's great.
Yeah. Yeah. He be advocating for the homeless people out there on Google's grounds. Now let's be clear. Here's the thing.
He may just have a house, obviously he's multi, but he'd still be living homeless every now and again. And his tent is average. Wow. So he doesn't even have the nice. See, I will say though, for the most part I feel like people are, who are unhoused are doing it because they don't have any other choice.
Lacey Moseley
I'm not gonna say there aren't any outliers for sure. I'm not gonna say these people squatting may not have created a lifestyle of squatting. Absolutely. Also I have to say though, whoever the victim is on next door, like this person is not bad about it because I'm currently looking to maybe buy a house. And if I bought a house and somebody was living in that joint when I pulled up, best believe I'm calling my whole family.
We will be showing up with bats. We will be showing up with whatever we have to to run you out of the house. We're not gonna do this. But my question is, did they move in after they gave them a tour of the house or what? So they purchased the house and then the squatters.
So basically there was, you know how this. You'll see a for sale sign and then they'll put sold and they're some realty companies to try to flex. So then they see the soul sign, but nobody's moved in yet. Right. So they break in through the back door and then they were like, great, we live here now.
Oh my God. Yeah, this is different. Did they say what city and state day in? Because it sound like Florida. It really does sound like some Florida shit.
Lacey Moseley
I do not know. It does not specify. Sometimes people leave stuff like that out because they don't want to get caught up. But it doesn't specify what state. But a lot of states have these squatters, right?
And especially in California we have strong squatters rights. So I was about to say yes indeed. Yes indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if it was here too, right? You're right.
But there's so many slum lords that we need squatters rights. So there's only going to be a few people like this who try to get over for the most part is people living. Right. However, if you do this shit to me, like I will take you to court, and by court I'm talking about my back. My baddest name court.
See? And then they gonna come up in there. Cause they used to skimming already with they neck brace. They cast they wheelchair, all that extra stuff, and say, she beat me. She tore me up.
Come on. Why? You sound like the color purple. That's what I was going for. Good.
I'm glad you caught the reference. Yes. They gonna roll in on a medical gurney with an eyebrow. They are. Yes.
And they're gonna be like, she did this to be. And now you're gonna lose your house and your freedom. But, see, what if it's in Florida? Stand my ground. If I beat you up on my property, that's well within my rights.
Is it your property, or is it their property? According to their papers. Wow. Wow. You know what?
Lacey Moseley
I hope you're not my. I hope you're not their lawyer. Cause I'm fucked. Cause. Okay.
Every argument destroyed. Okay. Lala esquire, she has destroyed my arguments. I'm going to jail. Jail.
That concludes my argument, your honor. It's like, oh, this way to prison. Okay, great. And they keep my home. Okay, cool, cool.
Lacey Moseley
Sounds good. All right, guys, we will be back after the short break of some non scam advertisements. Scams? Ooh. Do you feel that in the air?
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I'm so excited. Yes. Okay. Me too. Okay, so today we're talking about Richard Scott Smith.
He is a gentleman. Or maybe he's not a gentleman, honey. Who scammed a group of women in the midwest by posing as each of their romantic interests over the span of 20 years and stealing over $1 million from them. Yes, he's the subject of a Showtime docu series called Love Fraud, where filmmakers followed Smith for a year, speaking with about 30 different women in total who had been scammed by Smith. Mm, mm, mm.
How do you girl, the crazy thing is, I just google him, and it says that there's more to come. He's not done. And that was on September 3. He not even that attractive. How you let this man with the horrible hairline sit up there and scam you out of your money.
Lacey Moseley
Yeah, his hairline is running away from desperate. His face, his hairline. I don't like that freedom, man. Listen, here's the thing. When it comes to women, and not even just women, just people in general.
Like, if you have a good personality, most scammers have great personalities. They're charismatic, they're charming. If he managed to make these women feel loved and sought after and, like, tended for, you know what I mean? Like, I could see how they would fall into this. You know, I've been lonely from time to time.
You know, a suspect looking man might. You know, girl, see, that's the thing. I be so on guard nowadays just because I know how much scamming is going on. Like, thankfully, I don't have to worry about that. I still be satire in my own man child looking like, hold up.
All right. Every now and again I did a purse check where I'd be like, pass me. Pass me my wallet, child. My mom told me if a man ever dig into your purse, he'd be stealing. Every time that he passed me my purse, I'd be looking at him like, hold up.
All right, he passed me the purse. Not my wallet, the data. He passed me my wallet. We're done. I love this test.
Lacey Moseley
I had the old test of. I had to get a new test. Cuz my test was just like, if you wake up and then all the contents of your purse are still in there, then it's like, okay, cool, girl, a smart. They done got advanced. They don't, obviously, they don't do it that fast no more.
They build up to it, you know, and then they make you fall in love. Next thing you know, stuff come up missing. I don't know, like your car. You know, the car. I don't want to be like, I love you.
Lacey Moseley
And then the next day, like, I come outside of the garage just empty. Oh, girl, these men are different. I mean, look at what happened with that makeup guy, Jeffrey star. Oh, Jeffrey stood up there. Yes, he went up there and went public with him.
Everything. I saw it on the blogs. Next thing you know, he said, at least bring my stuff back. Everybody was like the scammer of the century. I said, my goodness, these scammers are getting advanced.
Lacey Moseley
They are. This man had his whole family. The wife was crying and stuff. Like, he left me say, no, sweetie. He went off and hit a lick for y'all.
See, that's more romantic. That kind of ends the story in the way that I wanted. So, basically, there's this guy. I don't remember his name, but he's bi, and he was with a woman, and they had a fresh baby. Like, the baby was, like, still had the, you know, what do they call, umbilical cord.
The baby hairs was still laid. The umbilical cord was still very nearby. Yes, indeed. Like, it was fresh out the vagina baby. And he left his wife or girlfriend to be with Jeffree Star, who's a prominent and problematic makeup artist.
And the gentleman in question, I can't remember his name, but he is black, which is funny, because Jeffree star loves to do racism to people. But. So they got together. Jeffree's posting him on his Instagram, his Snapchat, kissing, hugging, all of this expeditiously. It was with the quickness.
And so the wife is on Instagram, y'all like, please, baby, come back to be like, I love you. And it's very sad. And I guess they recently broke up. Cause then now Jeffree Star was under his page, like, hey, you're not picking up my phone calls. Can you at least bring back my stuff?
And so I hope it's what you say, lala. I hope it's that he hit a lick for the family. You know what I mean? The baby came out. Would you take your band back after he hit a lick with another man for the family?
If it was for the family? You know what I mean? Girl, maybe the question Jeffree star said, he was like, I mean, we were kicking it, having sex. He made sure to put that in there. Why you felt the need to say y'all was having sex?
That ain't none of our business. Also, we could have guessed, because, Jeffrey, you were posting pictures with you straddling this man's lab. Like, we know y'all have shadows. I know you ain't gotta say all that. So now you done open up your little pearly gates to heaven just for that man to steal your stuff.
Lacey Moseley
Mm hmm. If anything, I'd have just said we was kicking it. Go ahead. My bad, girl. Right?
No, you good. You can always interrupt. No, and I do it too. Podcast. No, I was gonna say that also, Jeffrey benefited from this.
Like, whatever he stole from you. Come on, let's talk about all the free clout. And people were talking about you, and you were trending on Instagram. And on Twitter. So, like, you got something from this arrangement, Zachary.
They say no publicity is bad publicity. You know what I'm saying? And depending on who you are, a lot of people really, really be seeking attention. I don't follow Jeffree star like that, and I don't really know too much about him, but I did see the whole spectacle occur when it happened. And just the fact that he was public with it, I think he was enjoying it.
So, I mean, he got what he wanted, right? He got the cloud, he got the clicks. And, I mean, he already has a huge following, but I'm sure that went even further and maybe even helped his non racist narrative. Also, like, I always worry about, like, I'm pretty. I guess I can't say I'm squeaky clean, but I try to keep it pretty clean, like, with publicly, like, how I act and, like, what I share and stuff.
Lacey Moseley
But I'm wondering if I need to start being a little more trash so people will expect less of me. That way I don't ever have to say that. Oh, that's so funny that you say that. I literally be wondering, like, it's crazy because the people who get glorified the most, you know, are a lot of times people who are very transparent, open, and, like, don't give a fin up. That's what I be saying.
They just don't care about what they display. You know, people love it. And it's funny because I be seeing these people get hella engagement. These people go live and they got ten thousands and thousands of people, and they live all the time just off of, you know, doing stuff that quote unquote or traditionally isn't morally okay, you know? So that's a very valid question.
They do. I'm like. And I be wondering. It's funny that you say that because I'm like, I don't know. Should I.
Should I start doing the most? You know? Cause, hell, these skits, they. They cute, but they're not engaging. As if I was to spill my business or come out with a plot or do something crazy, look, I swear, I'd be feeling like half this stuff that people do is plot just for social media.
I can't call it. I just can't bring myself to do it. I just can't. Cause you don't have to, Lala. You're very talented and you're super funny.
Lacey Moseley
I feel like when you know that you have the skills, it's like, you don't have to. People don't want talent these days. They don't want talent. Girl, can you not tell? Talent doesn't sell no more.
They want the mess. They want the drama, okay? And at this point, I'm like, well, gosh, I got this talent. But the people who don't got talent and they just showing ass and all that stuff, they get more engagement. So what does sister girl gotta do?
Show a left cheek, right cheek? What's up? But see, listen, them cheeks only last for so long. You know what I mean? You can only keep that.
Lacey Moseley
Only Carly red. Carly Red is the only instagram thought I know who has made it into her fifties. Probably who still show a cheek. You know, I don't even know how old Carly is. No one does.
They don't. Okay, so I don't know how old Carly is. I don't know how old cash doll is. But I'll tell you what, these girls have been doing it for years, and they've had longevity. And I'm like, if y'all got business managers and y'all got financial advisors, keeping y'all together, y'all gonna be lucrative forever.
Lacey Moseley
Forever. Listen, and I love get it how you live. I don't knock any type of husband there. For real. Get the bag.
Which is why I was glad when, like, Cardi B was kind of this resurgence of, like, you seeing Instagram women becoming famous on their own. Right? You know what I mean? So I was just like, yes, I fucking love this. But.
So this guy. Let's get back to mister Smith. Oh, my bad. Ooh. We serving some good combos.
Yes. Oh, no. We go on tangents here. People love it. They ready for it.
It's fine. This is called the kiss and diss. So Smith worked as a car salesman. Makes sense. Car salesmen know how to be shady.
Don't make us be scamming. But sometimes claimed to be a lawyer or a doctor. Okay, so Smith regularly went by Rick or Scott. They don't. Them don't.
Lacey Moseley
Your name is Richard. Okay, so Richard Scott. So you can go by Rick or Scott. That's fine. He's supposed to go by Dick.
True. He was out here giving it to the community, too, so he was passing it out like Jehovah's Witness going door to door with pamphlet. Yes, indeed. So he's like, pamphlet. Or you can take this, Dick, and that's beautiful.
So he also went by Mickey. I feel like if he went by Mickey and you met him and you fucked with him, like, that's on you. I'm never gonna have any kind of relationship with somebody named Mickey. Well, that's a caucasian thing. Child.
I feel like Mickey, Dick, Richard, Sam, you know all those names is very much so. Job security. So he knew the ladies heard that, and they were like, ooh, he had money. Yeah, come on now. Has a 401K.
Yes. Yes. So he allegedly told many of the women he was waiting to receive a multimillion dollar medical malpractice settlement and promised a life of financial stability. Even telling one woman he would pay for her son to go to college with another. He spoke about buying a house for them in Belize.
Lacey Moseley
Okay, listen, I've said this before, but I think Belize is an ugly island, and y'all can fight me. Um, I've been there a lot. I don't like it anyways. But shout out to y'all as people, but not y'all island. So at first glance, Smith appeared to be a great catch.
He was attractive. Okay, so attractive. Hmm. They lying. They lying according to whom?
Yes. Yes. Maybe. I guess. And he offered middle aged women that he dated a shoulder to cry on.
Lacey Moseley
He left love filled voicemails and told them he couldn't stand to be away from them. Smith quickly proposed and in many cases, married the women. Smith often convinced the women to open joint bank accounts with him or use their credit cards to buy cars, homes, or even businesses. Girl, you know what this sound like? Did Tyler Perry get inspiration for his movie from this?
You know what movie I'm talking about? No. The movie. Yes. The one with Bresha Webb.
Lacey Moseley
Oh, that's called the wigs. There's so many wigs in that girl. Yes. A fall from grace. A fall from grace.
Sound just like this. He literally married her quick. Got access to her account, sold the house, everything. Everything that this man is doing. Girl, y'all, if you ever wake up and you start feeling like Tyler Perry movies are relatable.
Lacey Moseley
Like, that's. You really need to get your life together. If you ever just like. Child, listen, if you do ever feel like a Tyler Perry movie is relatable, then you gotta reevaluate your life and what you got going on. Cause them movies all be drama filled, right?
If you're married to an abusive, dark skinned man and then a light skinned bus driver with a cornrow weave shows up, you gotta watch out. Cause your life may be a solitary movie, man. Look, if ever I would be like, aw, hell nah. Go right back to sleep. Wake up and do it over.
Cause I don't like that. No, it's a mess. But also, like, what strikes me here is these are, like, middle aged women, you know that some of them have college age children. And when you're at that age, it's harder, especially for women, to find men who aren't damaged goods. Because if you're a normal, well adjusted man, by the time you're in your mid to late forties, for the most part, you're either in a relationship or you're married.
Lacey Moseley
Or maybe you out here, you know, being. Having a midlife crisis or dating younger women cause you childish. But you know what I mean. So it's hard to find the men who are single, who are good men. It's almost like you gotta be waiting outside the funeral home, see whose wife died, and you got to be right there with the flowers to get them, because the next day, they gonna be gone.
That's the only time you can get one. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. You just gotta hang out at the cemetery and buy the fresh graves.
Listen. Oh, my God. So my question, what happened with this. With this richer guy? Like, how did he get caught?
Did he get in trouble? Like, what's he with him? Because I'm curious. Yeah, there's more. So one shocking discovery was that he would often borrow details of the lives of other women he was seeing when targeting a new woman.
Lacey Moseley
For example, he told one woman he had a kid sister named Nicole, which was actually one of his booze. Had a kid sister named Nicole. He would offer all these details. In reality, he was describing the kid of another woman that he was seeing. As soon as his lady was suspicious of him, he would disappear and move on to the next victim.
So as soon as he started asking questions, as soon as he reached in the purse to grab the wallet, instead. Of that would be gone. There would be a trail of dust. Wow. Wow.
So Sabrina Dunlap is one of the many women Smith was engaged to. Wait a minute. Is Sabrina Black or white? I don't know. We can Google, but I feel like Sabrina's probably not one of us.
But we can Google Sabrina Dunlap, sound black as hell. Really? Marina, Google Sabrina Dunlap, love fraud, and tell us if she's black. We need to know. So Smith told her that he was married once before, but had been divorced for three years.
Lacey Moseley
He seemed to be someone who was stable and worked hard, which made Dunlap think, wow, this is a good guy. He was good looking, and he seemed honest after a first date at the sandwich chain Schlotzky's. You ain't taking me no sandwich shop for the first date, bitch. Schlotzky I don't want to eat fresh on our first date. Anyway, it says, after that, he wooed her with clothes and jewelry.
Okay. And she said, I wasn't used to that. Clearly, you was having a date at Schlosky's. She said, oh, wow, he is really nice. He also befriended her dog.
Come on, now. Selena can't be black. Well, wait. At that point, okay, it looks like. I can't find a photo, but she's described as blonde.
Blonde. She white, 49 year old. No tolerance for nonsense. No tolerance for nonsense. That's how they describe her.
Lacey Moseley
Wow. So, Chelsea just said they described her as a blonde woman with no tolerance for nonsense. She still very much could be black. You know, we love a Mary J. Blonde in the community.
Okay. Okay. Get your auntie boots out and start stepping. So, we don't know yet, but he befriended her dog, treating her beloved pet to a McDonald's hamburger. Okay.
Lacey Moseley
Smith went as far as showing his devotion by tattooing Sabrina on his body above another tattoo on his shoulder. Hmm. Starting to sound even more black. Hmm. Oh, my God.
I don't know. Look at that. She looked like Rachel Dolezel. You found her. Oh, is she black?
Oh, let me see. Okay. No, she's not. So, according to Dunlap, Smith got a $250,000 life insurance policy on her, and then all of a sudden, desired to go on a crew. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.
My man say, bae, I wanna pull out an insurance policy for you, then say, let's go swimming. I'm gonna be like, I canceled the policy. It was too expensive for my pockets. I'm good. He was about to start killing these women.
Lacey Moseley
I think he might have. He was like, it was gonna be a boat accident. He was like, boo. I put out a life insurance policy and surprised. Surprise.
Skydiving tickets. Let's go. You jump first. Oh, I'm about to dive in. No.
Damn. So. But shortly after booking the cruise, he discovered a tumor and had to get it removed. Luckily, he actually got sick, and the cruise didn't happen. But when I look back, I honestly believe he was gonna throw me off the cruise.
Lacey Moseley
And to prove to my family and probably the police, they would probably think, like, oh, he loved her. See my name? Like, her name is on my back. So, basically, he got this tattoo of her that says, like, oh, you know, he's dedicated. He loves her, and then he's gonna throw her ass off the boat like an acrimony.
Except she wasn't gonna get back on, and he was gonna be like, look, I got her tattoo on me. I would never kill her. Wow. Wow. God really helps you out, Miss Dunlap.
He really helps you out. So, Dunlap left Smith after learning he told her dad and brother in law that she was the one frivolously spending money. Then she says she found out that he was using her credit cards to pay his medical bills. Like, ooh, it took you too long to find that out, sis. What did he have wrong?
He had a tumor. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Got it.
Yeah. So she later got more information when her mother was contacted through LinkedIn by one of Smith's wives. See, that's how you know his other wives were snooping. When you start snooping on LinkedIn, when you start trying to find people on Venmo and any app possible, that's when you know you really snooping. So the woman snooping reached out to Dunlap and said that she decided that he wasn't gonna get away with this shit and that she had filed charges for identity theft.
Dunlap says that meeting the others Smith wronged has helped her mentally recover. So now they probably got, like, a sorority or, like, you know, like, a girls group.
They play bunko on Tuesday nights and drink white wine. Yes, girl. Beefing with my enemy makes you a friend of me? In this case, yes, absolutely. Another victim claimed he left her with $750,000 worth of debt after he convinced her to start a business with him and then had her co sign on a home mortgage.
Smith didn't pay the mortgage for months and hid the past due notices. So the women had no idea how much debt she was collecting until he fled. When the marriage, things come. Everything he does is legal. There's nothing they can do to him because he actually marries them then it's his community property, she explained.
So he was actually marrying these women, like, on paper, and then being like, let's get a house. Give me $750,000. Let's open a Krispy Kreme. So when he divorced them before the next one, like, was there not, you know? Yeah, it feels like a little big me going on here.
I don't know how he was getting away with this. So this is him getting caught, sort. Of, at this point. Every time he walked up to the justice of the peace, they were probably like, hey, welcome back. He getting discounts?
That was. Yes. Let me get the three for five. For this year, man. You know, also, I'm trying to think of, like, the kind of guy you have to be to you.
Have you have, like, some kind of personality disorder or something to constantly be creating relationships with people and making them seem meaningful and then running off on them or stealing their. Like, he was maybe about to dabble. In murder minus the murderer. He sound like a typical nigga.
Perhaps a little bit. Yeah. The murder's funny to me, though. He was like, hey, girl, I got us these carnival cruise tickets. We got to go.
That's the part that throws me for a loop. I'm like, wait a minute. He's like, boo, come out here to the balcony. Let's get a picture by the ocean. Yeah, no, get closer.
Lacey Moseley
That's crazy. Closer to the ocean. Boop. Right? Next thing you know, she's over.
Yes. Mm mm. Love overboard. Love overboard. Okay, so I'm sorry.
Lacey Moseley
I'm sorry that I did that. So. Getting caught. So Smith was arrested in 2017 for identity theft and forgery in Johnson County, Kansas, after his former fiance, Sabrina Dunlap, told police he had maxed out her credit cards and drained their joint savings account. Smith had also taken out a fraudulent credit application in her name without authorization.
She believed he had taken her driver's license, likely while she was sleeping, copied it to gain the information he needed to fill out the implication, and then forged her signature at the bottom. Damn, sis. Smith allegedly used her name to purchase two cars. Two. It's the audacity here.
Like, this man. Bold Smith. The audacity of Smith. Okay, I know we had the audacity of Obama, but now we have the audacity of Dick Smith because, wow. Pretty much two cars open credit cards.
And took out cable service in four Kansas City area apartments. So he was over here paying for. So he's probably setting up his next, like, victim. Yes. He was like, boo, I got that comcast for you.
Yes. He was literally, like, taking stuff from the prior to impress his bigger fish. The next one. Because women love men who can match their energy. Yes.
He was proactive. He's. I always say if scammers put the energy that they put into scamming, into actually growing a business and stuff, they could be multimillionaires legally. I always say that. Right.
Lacey Moseley
But what are laws, really? You know what I mean? Like, there's so many people who are multimillionaires, a legally, but they're hiding assets, they're skimming money. You can't become a billionaire without killing people, either inadvertently or on. That's what I heard.
You know how many people then died working for Jeff Bezos? And they be sweeping it under the rug, so you know, it's. You know what I mean? So it's all a dirty game, but, yeah, you're right. I mean, you could at least gain more money and probably stay out of jail if he were to use these skills in a positive way.
So he eventually pled guilty to the identity theft charge in exchange for dropping the forgery charge, and was sentenced to ten months in the clink when he violated his probation. Yep, just ten months, you know? Okay. Right. We get.
We get a lot more. When he violated his probation in 2019, after failing to report and failing to pay, basically, restitution, his probation was extended into August 29 with the help of a private investigator. He was eventually arrested again in Knoxville, Tennessee, new state, for violating his probation and was sentenced to 180 days in jail. Still not a lot. Investigators found eleven marriage certificates.
Eleven. And no divorce paper. Yeah, that's what I'm seeing. He was saying, I do all the time. He's like, I do, I do, I do.
Ooh, yes, I got that. Kenan and kale orange soda. That was his marriage. Orange soda was his marriage. So investigators also found, like, the eleven marriage certificates.
Lacey Moseley
While looking at Smith's background, one investigator said, I don't know how one person can juggle so much. Adding that a number of these marriages overlapped and when he was even dating people on the side at the same damn time. Smith's time behind bars was short lived. He apparently already he's back on the streets and supposedly dating again. But his victims believe the publicity of the docu series is going to ruin his dating life.
And they are wrong. I know they're wrong because I just told you that article said, he's not done. There's plenty of women. Like, mind you, I never heard of this man. So if I was to cross him, I'd be like, ooh, sugar daddy vibes.
Next thing you know, he passed me my wallet. Right, exactly. You like, oh, I just got free time Warner and then. For real. And we going on a cruise.
Yep. Yep. Girl, he said he gonna take me on a cruise. Cause he saw I was in Mexico, he wanted to take me to Cabo. And he got us a joint life insurance policy.
Lacey Moseley
Mine is some reason worth more. But that is the funny thing is he probably was like, oh, I already have mine, but I think it's important. And it's like, oh, he trying to boss me up. He getting me life insurance. Like, girl, I never had a man give me life insurance.
He really care, right? And it's like, that's. I don't know when is the right time for anybody to talk about life insurance, I guess, after you're married. But it would feel weird if they were like, hey, baby, I just want to tell you I love you and we should get life insurance together. Yes, we should get life insurance, because you never know what could happen.
And I just want to make sure your family is good, you know, I want to make sure that your kids are good and secure because, yes, you're working hard, but if you're not here, who's going to be the provider? I know you provide for your family, all that stuff. You see how good I made that sound? You was over there thinking about buying a policy yourself. I was.
Lacey Moseley
I was about to make you the benefactor. I was like, you know, this makes a lot of sense. See, that's what I'm saying. This must be my third date combo. I really like, listen, and what, during the pandemic?
Oh, girl. Right? This is the time. It's like, look, normally I will wait a few years, but, you know, it's COVID times right now, baby. So I just feel like in order to feel secure in this relationship, how many is to go down to State Farm, talk to Jake?
Yep, yep, yep. Well, guys, don't worry. I'll do it for you.
Lacey Moseley
Lala now does insurance. You heard it here first. No, all jokes aside, I used to work at insurance before I got into this whole thing. And the number one. Yes.
And my boss was always trying to pitch life insurance. Cause it was the most expensive policy, so the commission was higher. Did you go to people's houses to slang the insurance? Or were you like, no, no, no, in the building? No.
When they get cars and, you know, do their. Do their cards and house, you know, it'll be like, okay, well, obviously you have assets. You know, you want to make sure you're able to pay for them. You should go. Do you have life insurance, girl?
And half of them will be like, the ones who was always interested, always had a health ailment that kind of, like, ruined their chances of getting it because they don't want somebody that's already going to need it. They like healthy people, you know, but, yeah, girl, it was very much so a thing. Just like how he was selling into them. It's crazy. Well, guys, if you.
Lacey Moseley
If you see anybody named Richard Scott Smith, which we should have known, he's got a very shady sounding name, run the other way. Or don't, you know, become his sugar mama, have a great time. He probably lay some good peen because. People seem real distracted if I met a man like that, I would real life play, and I knew what it was. I would try to go along with it just to see if I could scam him.
But what if I see he was getting in too much over my head? I go ahead and be like, all right. Nah. Cause the thing is, at the beginning, he be swooning them, and then stuff start turning. So the thing is, they be getting in too deep.
They need to take what they could get, and then they disappear on him. Don't let the man come to your house every time. He'd be like, well, let's go back to your. Mm mm. Let's go to yours.
Let's go to yours. No, let's go to your place. Yeah. Oh, my place is a mess. You know, we can just sit in the car then.
Lacey Moseley
That's fine. Okay. Yes. Yes. Turn the arrow.
Yes. For real? Yes. I can massage your hairline so it could possibly grow less. Yeah, let's spend some time.
Lacey Moseley
You still stuck on that man's hair. Line, girl, I can't get over it. I ain't never seen nothing like that. Oh, lord. Well, all right, guys, we're gonna take one more quick break for non scam advertisements, and we'll be back with the end of the show robbery.
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All right, guys, and we are back. And this is my least favorite part of the show because this is when I'm going to have to let Lala go. Soon. I gotta leave. It was getting so good.
I ain't had no people to people interaction in a long time. Same. Honestly, this podcast has been saving my life. Cause it's like I get to talk to people and, like, laugh and kick it. It's so nice.
Lacey Moseley
Cause it's not. I feel like we in a kickback right now, and I'm loving it. Yes, I love to hear that. So, scammer of the week is former Trump advisor Steve Bannon. He's charged with misusing donations for Trump's border wall.
So, I mean, listen, y'all, please vote early. Please vote. And if you vote for Trump, stay home, relax, take a break. You deserve it. It's been a wild news cycle.
You don't need to vote, but everyone else, please go vote. So, through a viral GoFundMe page and other fundraising efforts, Bannon, along with Brian Kolfich, an air Force veteran who lost both of his legs and his right arm on deployment in Iraq in 2004. Andrew. I don't know. Why did we need to know that anyway, Andrew Baladato and Timothy Shea raised more than $225 million in private donations for people who were told that 100% of their coins were going straight to the wall.
They said, from your wallet to the wall. Hey.
All these racists crowd.
Oh, I love it. Come on. Go, John. So they all face charges of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. I love a good wire fraud and conspiracy to commit money laundering in connection with we build the wall.
I need to start my own wall fund. But the thing is, like, if I started GofundMe for a wall I am actually going to build this, y'all. The only issue is I don't really know how to build a wall. So, you know, I'm gonna get some bricks, and it's gonna start off small. I'm gonna tell you what, I would like to have a wall fund, too, but I want it to be my vaginal walls, because as many times as these walls have been ran through, I need to rebuild them if vinegar ain't doing a trick.
Okay? So if y'all would like, please feel free to donate to my vaginal wall fund. Now, how do people know that the money went to the walls?
The next guy who get to hit it can verify that the walls are officially built and now intact. That we built the wall. Yes. Yes. Guys, I'm just saying.
Let me stop for my man. Kill me. No, we don't want that. No, these are all jokes, guys. Y'all know that.
Lacey Moseley
Y'all know that. So a us attorney in New York charged the men with improperly diverting more than $1.3 million for their personal use. So, okay, they said 25 mil for the wall. And then they said, we just gonna take 1.3 for us. That's not that bad.
Even before the charges, some donors had been raising questions about the project's progress and demanding proof and photographs of new construction. Show me a video of the wall being built. I'll puny up my next donation, reads one angry Facebook comment. Where is the rest of the money going? Reads another.
Actions, they're probably more like, where's the rest of the money going? Show me your video being on the wall. Keeping them rounds out anyway. One week before his arrest, Kolfage was still on crowdfunding pages, asking donors for more money to meet new deadlines. A spokesman for GoFundMe stated that hosting platform had been cooperating with the investigation has already returned roughly $6 million.
So here's the thing. The wall is supposed to be built by the government. So why are y'all dumbasses over here even giving money to whoever the fuck online talking about? You know, we gonna build the wall ourselves.
We got six. We got. I'm not gonna lie, if I disguise myself as a racist person who was a Trump supporter, I could easily, like, build a following and make people give money. A lot of these people really be racist rich people who have nothing better to do so they don't have a problem. Oh, he said he gonna build it.
All right, cool. Send them 5000. That's perfectly fine by me, long as they get built like they just be bored. You know, people with money really be having a lot of time on their hands. True.
Lacey Moseley
And you know what's weird to me, I guess, is like, you know, like, Candace Owens started out as a kind of Democrat left leaning person, and then she went full right ring when she realized, like, that's where the coins were. You know, I've been seeing a lot of Trump merch. That's like, I saw Trump earrings that were, like, rhinestone heart shaped earrings. And then they had Trump. I'm not.
They had Trump written across them. And there's Trump necklaces and Trump socks and Trump's shoes. I cannot make this up. And I was like, what if I just got into the business of making Trump merch and just like. But they don't know it's coming from a black person.
You would really make money. I could get my page will probably lose. Stupid, crazy amount of followers. Trump fanny packs, Trump panties, and then put the grab by the pussy on the front. You know what I mean?
I got. That's good, that's good, that's good, that's good. Right? You got man wills over here. Turn it right.
I could make some stuff that look like it's about to be Trump merch, and then when you get closer, you realize that it's not. And then a fine print on the website, honey, is actually, it says this, so be careful while purchasing. But instead of it being in, like, 28 size 28. Fine. It'll be in size two.
It was on there. You just had to zoom in. You didn't zoom in. Exactly. That's great.
Yeah. I mean, okay, Trump belly rings. At least let me get, like a little maga that we could put at the bottom of people belly rings, Trump toe rings. I think these are things that the Trump community would really enjoy. You could, at this point, do Trump anal plugs.
You could do the anal beads. I'm a couple that would make industry. Amongst people with money. Oh, yes. You could come out with Trump's spray tan.
Lacey Moseley
Oh, now, see, that's what Donald Trump should really be trying to hock right now in the White House. Cheetah orange. Cheetah orange. Yes. Bronzer, bronze diss.
Yeah, that would go crazy. SPF 70. Oh, yes. And yep, you right, put some sunscreen in it. That's good.
Lacey Moseley
You know, a pestle and mortar so people can grind up their adderall, just snort it. And classy. Real classy. Like, girl, you getting too good. See, I really wish I could use these powers for evil, which I feel like we could have a great company of just, like, evil merch for, like, evil people.
Owned by two black women. Honey, they were faint once revealed. Right? We never reveal. Women become millionaires, and then we post up like cheese.
They'd be like, oh, hell nah. We just want to thank all the racists out there for supporting black queens. Okay? Oh, my goodness. Well, allah, this has been a blast.
Lacey Moseley
It's so wonderful having you, girl. It has been extremely good, and I appreciate you for having me on here. This was really, really good. Yes. So we always ask people, where do you want to be found?
Not where people can find you, but where do you want to be found? So anything you want to plug your socials? I want to be found on Sunset boulevard after 10:00 p.m. Shaking my left cheek. I'm just playing.
You can find me in my podcast at the salon, honey, on Stitcher apple, on freaking Spotify, everywhere. The salon with lala Milan and on Instagram at lala malign. And feel free to look at my IMDb if you want to watch me on tv. It depends on whatever kind of mood you in. You know what I'm saying?
Lacey Moseley
The girl's got variety, okay? She's got all. Hello. I thought you were so fun and boomerang. I love that they made you a stripper, but you're, like, the coolest, hippest stripper that you know.
It's so good. I got to live out my fantasy on tv. I was enamored. It was lit. It was very lit.
And you're so funny in that. And I love your videos. Guys, if you're not following Lala, which you probably already are, but if you aren't, you, you really should. I would love for you guys to step into my world. If you like this, you'll definitely.
You could relate to the content that I post. Yes, guys, as always. Lacey Moseley. D I v a l a C I. Diva lacy on all platforms.
Lacey Moseley
If you want to write into the show, snitch on your friends and family. Just make sure the scams retire so we don't fuck up your bag. That's scamgottedspod@gmail.com. And that's scamgotted. Spot on all platforms.
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