Fraud Fridays: The Insurance Fraud Fibber w/ Jacquis Neal

Lacey Moseley
What's Poppin congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Moseley, aka scam goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the scam goddess vault. That's right. Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall.

Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall. And as always, stay scheming scheme. Come robbery and run scam. Come robbery and frog. Scam goddess.

What's Poppin congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Moseley, aka scam goddess. And we are back for another episode of Scam Goddess. How are y'all doing out there? I'll give you a moment to respond.

Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. Or, hey, congratulations, good for you. Or, that was boring. I don't know. You probably fit into one of those three responses, right?

Anyways, as always, guys, you know, I am. What? Yes. Excited. Very excited for today's guest.

He made a huge splash on his debut on the show when we talked about the ukrainian orphan who may or may not be a child and parents who may be trash or maybe afraid for their lives. Who knows? We still don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Jacquees Neil
I think the parents are trash and she a grown ass woman. I think it's twofold. He's a voice actor, an incredible comedian. You already know who he is now. Cause he just started talking.

Lacey Moseley
Guys, this is Jakeese. Neil. Hey, what's up? What's up? What's up?

Jacquees Neil
The king and the goddess back together. What's up, Lacey? What's up, congregation? Nothing much. Nothing much.

Lacey Moseley
And also everything. Jacquees is a very kind soul because we have had to restart this show, like, four times. Because, you know, God is not trying. The microphone is betraying me. Yeah.

Jacquees Neil
God ain't on our side today. And I told some secrets. I told some secrets. Them first two, I can't, you know, I can't say them no more, but ooh wee. Right?

Lacey Moseley
And I know we said that in the congregation, if you're a return visitor to the church, that you get elevated status, right? Yes. Yes, I'm a deacon now. Yes, I went from Brother Neil to Deacon Neil. He is a deacon, which means that after service, he has to stay.

Stay home or stay at the church and count the money. Of course, under my supervision. Damn. I gotta be supervised counting the money? Shit.

Oh, wait, but we were talking about how. Wait, both of us, our grandfathers were real deacons. They were. And their jobs were to count the money, too. Like, I remember my granddad staying over, just counting wads of money at church.

Jacquees Neil
I'm like, damn, granddaddy got it good. Granddaddy counting that, that loot, he would never give me none too well. Of course not. Cause it was for God, Jacques, for God in the past up, you know, God. God told my family that I was a gift from him.

So why can't I get some of his money? I can't. I mean, honestly, the church should crown fund a little more. I mean, I do think that pastors should be rich, though. Like, well, I think if you're like, if that's your goal, I don't know, it's just I don't like to see service people have to be poor.

Lacey Moseley
Like, I don't think that that's the case. I think you can be in service of other people and still make a great living. That's how we make giving back cool. I mean, yeah, let me tell you something, you know, poor pastors don't have big ass congregations. Just say that, you know.

Jacquees Neil
Right. A poor pastor to be like, nigga, what God doing for you? You driving the worst car than I. Am, then you're not reaching the masses. If you broke, you not reaching the masses.

Lacey Moseley
But I mean, I do love a poor pastor because I just don't like that in religion. There's so much authenticity tied to being poor. It seems like the meek will inherit the earth. And, you know, everything else that the homie said, I don't know. Who's the homie?

Jacquees Neil
God. God is the homie. Yes, God is the homie. All right, what's up? What's up, homie?

Lacey Moseley
But at the same time, it is weird when your pastor is flexing. In Pittsburgh, I remember I went to this kind of like smaller church. I would say that most of the people who went there were below the poverty line. And the pastor came in. I can't remember what car it was.

It was like a Ferrari or a Maybach or something. And everybody was like, the fuck I know. I. The pet, the church I grew up in, when we moved, we moved to a big ass. We moved to a big ass new church, right?

Jacquees Neil
And the pastors, pastor Freeman were both driving. The pastor and her husband were both driving nice ass cars. I don't know what they were. Cause I was a fucking kid, but I know they was nice. But the side door of our church was raised about 15ft in the air and the steps broke off and they never replaced them bitches.

So they had money to get themselves cars but wouldn't replace the steps on the damn door on the side of the church. So motherfuckers would just fall off. I mean, you know, you could. You could fall off. That's what we call walking by faith.

Yeah. You know, they would open that church door. Cause there was no ac in that bitch either. They would open that church door to get some airflow, but they would always make sure to tell the kids, don't play too close to the door and then go home in their Mercedes Benz's or some shit. That's trash.

Lacey Moseley
Now, how you gonna just offer a warning and that's it. Now, that is utter garbage, but also very hilarious. I mean, it's just, I feel like if you're a pastor, yeah, whip it. Have a nice car. But you also need to have like a church hooptie that you pull up to church in that needs to be like, very rundown, you know, like a 92 Nissan Ultima with lots of, like, godly bumper stickers on it.

Jacquees Neil
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, to show the people that, listen, dude, I'm here with you. I. Because, you know, sometimes.

What's the thought? You know, you can't. You can't tell me, you know, about myself or about my situation if you don't know about it, right? So if I pull up in a broke ass car and be like, listen, I know what it's like to be poor. Look at this car.

Look at this car I got. And then I believe you more, you know? I believe you walking with God like I am. Or do we want our pastors to be aspirational? See, that's why it's hard, because then it's like, what if you're like, your whole thing is like, look how much God has given me because I worship him, then it's like, oh, yeah, I guess we should be worshiping God more because I really would like a Bentley.

Lacey Moseley
I don't know, it just depends. That's how they get you. That's how they get you. Be like, pay your ties and offer, and then you will get a Ferrari, too. Like, that's how they get you.

Specifically give you a Ferrari. Well, you know, wait, so, jacquees, I know about your relationship with scams, but like, I mean, for the listeners, like, what's your relationship with scams? Have you encountered any new scams since I talked to you last? Like, what's going on with you? I mean, listen, you know, my relationship with scams are, if I can.

Jacquees Neil
If I can get that buck, I'm going to get that buck, you know? What I'm saying, especially if it's from the government. You know, the government giving it out money. I'm trying to figure out how to get that motherfucking money. I don't even care.

I don't care if I'm making money. Give me that money. It's mine. It's my motherfucking money. Yeah, I was about to say also, you gave it to the government.

Lacey Moseley
I love how we'll be like, thank you, daddy government for money that's ours. All taxes are. Is an interest free loan. I say it all the time. It's government taking an interest free loan from us.

And then they'd be like, oh, here go your money back. And we'd be like, yay, thank you, daddy government. Yeah. So you know what I'm saying? My relationship with scams are, you know, I'm up there with it.

Jacquees Neil
But here's the difference in the last episode to today. Ooh. Cause that was pre corona, the last. Episode, not only pre corona, that was. That was pre the meteoric rise of this pod.

You know what I'm saying? So back at the end, that was, you know, the beginning of the pod, and I had no doubt, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, exactly. I had no doubt that you would. This shit would blow up.

But, you know, now that it's blown. Up, now you don't want to keep it real. Cause we talked about little insurance fraud that we did. You know what I'm saying? You got a little bit more ears on this motherfucker now.

So keep my motherfucking mouth shut.

So I ain't telling you shit. I believe that episode is not behind the paywall, guys. So if you haven't listened to it, go ahead, put your ears in the Jacce Neal episode. I'm trying to expedite you going to jail. Me going to jail, too.

Lacey Moseley
Shit. That's my one fear, is, like, I got into a car accident and it was a fender bender, but it was like, I hit a car, and another hit a car in front of them, hit the other car because they stopped short. And I was so worried. I was like, hopefully, don't google me. Hopefully, everybody just take their settlements and don't think I got any more money because I don't want to get sued personally.

That's my biggest fear, is, like, I. Well, I hear that successful people have to just start having lawyers on retainer because people will try to sue you and people adjacent to you if they think you have money. And like Cardi B, recently her sister Hennessy got into it with her girlfriend, so. Hennessy has a girlfriend? They were on the beach.

Some other supporters heard them speak in Spanish and probably, you know, have an ass out. They heard Hennessy's ass and they had. They had an altercation with them and they were wearing MAGA hats and it got, you know, just verbally, it's a verbal altercation. Now they're trying to sue Cardi B because they had a verbal altercation with her sister. So, you know, she wasn't even there.

Jacquees Neil
She was probably at the crib arguing with offset or some shit. Like, she was right. A normal Tuesday for Miss Belcalis. So, yeah, so, you know, I do worry about the adjacent, like, suing aspects. You know.

The thing that I worry about, too is because, like, listen, I would say a lot of our, especially in our black circles, all of us who kind of came up together or that generation right before us, and us, a lot of us are starting to make a little bit more scratch. You know what I'm saying? Our pockets are starting to get a little bit more wider. Right? And, you know, when you got a circle full of motherfuckers who are, you know, making a little bit of money, then that's when you start getting the niggas who try to, like, scam you, scam your circles and shit, right?

So I be watching. I gotta watch out for that. I gotta watch out for that. You really do. Like, I'm.

Lacey Moseley
Look, I'm not Cardi B. I was not trying to compare myself. Like, I'm not famous. I just think about that sometimes and I'm like, that must suck. You famous enough, Lacey, you famous enough.

I'm not, but I'm never. I'll never be famous. No, but that's interesting because I definitely had someone in my life like that who I realized was like, oh, shoulda came home one day from, like, mind you, she was unemployed at the time. Came home from, like, going on house, like, tours with, like, brochures and was like, we should buy this house. And I was like, we.

But I do appreciate a good scam. I do. So speaking of a good scam, we need a name for this scam artiste that we're talking about today. Give me a name for this guy because he said, please don't use my name. Which we never do.

We'll never use your name unless it's important. All right? This person's name. This person's name is gonna be, you know, Lucius. Lucius.

Lucius. So, guys, as always, what's hot and fraud is where we alert you to scams that are popping right now or we read your scams allowed on the air. So if you would like to contribute, scamgottispodmail.com. snitch on your friends and family. Just make sure the scam is retired cause we don't wanna fuck up your bag.

So today we have a letter from Lucius. It makes me think of empire instantly. I see, I don't watch Empire. I was thinking of Lucius. I was thinking of Lucius Fox from Batman.

Oh, wow. Well, see, I don't watch Empire anymore, but when Empire, the first season of Empire. You didn't watch the first season of Empire? No, I didn't watch it first. Wow, you were missing a moment.

Cause Twitter was so funny and we would make cocktails and dinner and watch it every week in New York. Oh my God. Damn. Love this. I missed it.

It was just like a ratchet musical. It was so good. See, I didn't watch it cause it was based in Chicago and I hate Chicago shows. Oh, what is with Chicago people always having to be like the most authentic chicagoan? Oh, it's not even that.

Jacquees Neil
It's not even that. I just. I just hated all them shows, man. Cuz I audition for all them bitches and I never got on one. Okay, that's a funny thing.

And then one of them, I did get on one for eight episodes and the motherfuckers recasting me at wardrobe. So I fuck that. Fuck, fuck all them Chicago shows.

Lazy. You good? Lazy. You just fell out the damn screen. How did they recast you at wardrobe?

I got a call from my agent on my way to wardrobe saying that as our president calls it Comcast or they weren't Comcast at the moment. They were still just. NBC was like, yeah, they turned your role into a white woman. You show up and it's just a bunch of dresses and like blonde hair pieces. You're like, wait a minute, I was pissed.

So, you know, that's why I don't fuck with none of them. All them shows that film in Chicago. Cause I know all the casting directors on them. Listen, fuck and listen. I ain't been to Chicago in eight years, so I can say fuck all of them.

Fuck all of them. Listen, I'm scared of Chicagoans. I do. I vehemently disagree with Jacques. In fact, I barely know him.

Lacey Moseley
I just want to put that out here. I don't know this guy. Have not known him for four years, okay? I promise. So Lucius says, I love your podcast.

Oh, that's real nice. Okay, Lucious, I always skip the compliments so we can get to the t, but I do appreciate you, Lucius. So, Lucius says that he saw an ad on Facebook for a service called paystubnow.com, which is a sort of scam assistant website, which I was like, hmm. I like. I like a scam assistant.

I need one, actually, as they're always saying, if you want to do scams, you have to be good at Photoshop. Amen. That's. I think that's, like, the first commandment of scams. Thou shalt be good at Photoshop.

Jacquees Neil
Good at Photoshop. Well, the people@paystubnow.com seem to have made it into their business. And since they're openly advertising on Facebook, I figured that I'm not the only one actually blowing their cover and not sure what kind of profile I fit that they're advertising to me. Must be looking up scams too often. Now, Lucius, attached is a screenshot of Facebook ad that I saw.

Lacey Moseley
If you go to the website, you see that they offer a service where you can input your data into a template and create fake pay stubs, comas, transcripts, w two s 1099s, voided checks. All the documents you need to run scams. Love it. Love it. What's even funnier about this is that if you attempt to create a document, you have to check a box that says, I agree that I will not use this site for any illegal purposes.

Jacquees Neil
Mm hmm, mm hmm. Cause that's the number one scam. Take all the blame off yourself. Right? That's like, if you go to a store called robbery and they just sell ski masks, guns, and.

Lacey Moseley
And money bags, and they're like, just. But you can't use none of this for robbery. But we do have this robbery set that comes with everything you need, including a silent alarm disabler and a cell phone scrambler. But you can't. Don't you be thiefin'no.

Jacquees Neil
They ain't. This is for robbery connoisseurs and antiquers. Yeah, this is for people who just want to have the look. They're collector's items, okay? You've heard of athleisure?

Lacey Moseley
We're doing right. We're doing home invasion leisure. It's like, if you buy basketball jersey, just don't mean you in the NBA. If you buy some robbery gear, don't mean you robbing. Don't you go out there and rob nobody.

We just sell everything you need to rob someone. But we do not condone robbery. So. So that's what they. So this is actually off of the website.

Their faq section under are these fake pay stubs? Which is a question that they get enough that they had to put it in the frequently asked questions, is this a crime website? Frequently asked questions. Are we illegal? See below.

So, under the frequently asked questions of are these fake pay stubs? The website says, some people ask us to make fake pay stubs, and some others accuse us of making fake pay stubs. We are not in the business of fake pay stubs. You may not use this site to make fake, fraudulent, or dishonest pay stubs. We are a service that provides payroll service to small and medium sized companies or individuals that require record keeping for real, accurate, and authentic pay stubs.

We assume that all the values you provide us are correct for whatever your need is. We assume you are not here to make fake pay stubs. Well, I guess that answers that. They said it. They said it's old, you know, shit, I gotta believe em.

Jacquees Neil
They know what the fuck they doing, right? That's like, if you go back to the robbery store with your gun, it's all bloody and like, look, I need to make a return. It was jamming up a lot. Mm. Okay, well, just wipe that little blood off of it, right?

Lacey Moseley
You know, I'm gonna assume you weren't shooting people. And listen, I love it, you know, not anymore, but back in the day, I have made my share. Fake pay stubs. Let me tell you. To get an apartment.

Jacquees Neil
To get apartments to. Because a nigga was making a little bit too much money and wanted a little bit more from the government. I hadn't done that shit. We outside of the statue of limitations on that. So I'm good.

Lacey Moseley
That's all we ask. Yeah, that's all we ask. As long as you outside of the statute of limitations. As long as I can't listen to this podcast and be like, bars. Okay.

At the end, we started talking about social media because people are getting caught up with that now. Y'all, if you're scamming and robbing, please stop trying to make a rap career directly referencing the crime that you're currently doing. Although there's one exception. And do you know what rap artist that is of someone who talked about a crime that they were currently on, that is just so fire. No, the song is called the race by Tay K.

You had to have heard it. Couldn't beat that case. So I did the race. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. That's literally Tay K's on a song talking about how he is a wanted fugitive as he was a wanted fugitive, he shot a music video as a wanted fugitive.

Jacquees Neil
I'm right here outside the police station. They ain't gonna get me. And the song is fire. The race is fire. Okay.

Lacey Moseley
What a contribution to society. Thank you, Tay K. Hope you get out of jail soon. They arrested his ass as soon as it was over. Like, nigga, we've been following you for three days.

They used it in court. They played this song like, see, he said, robin nigga shoes, robin nigga Lace. He literally is talking about. That's so funny. Y'all don't document your crime like that.

But also, please do. I love it. Yeah. So pay subs now.com says that they're completely legitimate. And I want to show you this picture that looks very legitimate.

Okay. So I'm gonna send you a picture of this guy, and you tell me, like, who they pick to advertise. Like, if he looks like he's on the up and up. Because this. And at the bottom of this picture, it says, I agree that I would not use this site for any illegal purposes.

And. And you have to accept their terms of agreement before you check out. What's also interesting here is under paystubs now.com, it says, get your utility bill. How you gonna get it if you. Making it generate utility bill in just a few clicks?

Jacquees Neil
This nigga look like, this. The dude they picked to. The dude they picked to model for them looks like he's somebody who would sleep with you knowing he got a STD. Like, that's how this nigga look. Oh, my God.

Like, he's the most untrustworthy dude I've ever seen.

Lacey Moseley
We need someone with a face that says crime. Yeah, he looks like he's sweating a little bit. In the photo, he's wearing a suit that definitely looks like it's from express shade to express, but actually all shade to express. The tie ain't. The tie is like, not all the way up.

Jacquees Neil
Just like, I can't do this all the way, but I need to have the look that I'm professional. Right. Maybe it's a clip on. He's also doing the okay sign, which I thought that was just strictly for white supremacy. Now.

I was gonna say that's the white power sign, right? Yeah, that's the white power sign. Yeah. It's kind of corny. And I feel like we shouldn't let them have it.

Lacey Moseley
I feel like we should all just continue making okay. The okay sign. Even though they're trying, they've never been good at being cool. Evil. They're just like corny evil.

Jacquees Neil
Yeah, this is a crime site. Generate utility bills in just a few clicks. Oh, this is beautiful. Just a few clicks. Just a few clicks.

And what you need to generate a utility bill. Like what? I'm generating a utility bill so I can pay less or with. Oh, so in case you need to like, show proof of address or some shit. Mm hmm.

Lacey Moseley
Right. So, like, proof of address is necessary for like, school enrollment for a few other things like. Yeah, yo, I told you I got the bill right here. I live at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Nigga.

Jacquees Neil
Here's the bill right here. You thought the president was the only person who lived in there? No, I also live in there as well. Shit, I live round back. I live 1600 and a half Pennsylvania Avenue.

Lacey Moseley
You ain't never been to 1600 and a half?

A mess. Well, guys, if you need, I guess if you need to make pay stubs, paystubsnow.com. but this is interesting because I don't think that anyone would need to go to this website unless they were doing some sort of crime or dishonesty. So I don't really need to warn you guys about it because it's not like the site is like doing anything to its customers, but you doing everything for them. Right.

But if you need a scam assistant, I guess, or if you, excuse me, if you have a small business or. If you are individual who needs to record keep. Yes. Where you create the records that you're keeping, you know how record keeping works. Then you can go to paystubsnow.com dot.

Thank you, Lucius, for telling us about this wonderful website that I definitely will only use for legal purposes. I may use that shit to go get my. To go be like, yeah, man, I make enough money to pay this audio off. Like, here it is. Right, right, right.

Exactly. And guys, speaking of legal, let's take a quick break for some non scam advertisements. Scams.

And we are back. And now it's time for my favorite segment of the show, historic hoodwinks. This is when I will regale Jacqueese with a very famous con or caper by maybe someone we'll love, maybe someone we won't love as much. You know, I do love scammers, but every now and then we get an unsavory motherfucker who I'm like, like, I don't fuck with this. Like, you're a bad guy.

And sometimes I love them all the way up until the end where I find out they did something very bad. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, they killed the person. Like, oh, damn. So this, right?

And then it's like, okay, well, I guess I can't have as much fun. I love scams from Texas. I'm from Texas. Shout out to Frisco, Texas. Gang.

Gang. If you're from Frisco, you know that there's. We're not a gang, but. And also, I love to Texas monthly. So shout out to Katie vine, because a good bit of the research from this came from Texas monthly.

They've provided me with very fun scams from a local region. So Theodore Robert Wright, aka TR for short, which, like, come on. So Texas. Of a nickname, tr. Come on.

Tr. He's a Texas businessman that led a fraud and arson scheme which involved the destruction of a number of high value goods, which included a luxury car, two airplanes, and even a yacht. So as a teen, TR was very business oriented. I feel like if you have a teenager and they're business oriented, like, you probably are raising a scammer child. Yeah, you raising a white collar criminal, right?

So you gotta guide them. You gotta make sure, like, if they're gonna start lemonade stand, make sure they get the paperwork, you know, before Karen comes by. Just teach them how to do the legal part first. Cause, you know, entrepreneurship is wonderful, but if you don't guide the children, they will become scammers. Right.

Jacquees Neil
You know, they'll end up using paystubs.com or whatever that that site was, which I'm not against. So he was very business oriented as a teen. At 16, he worked at a kiosk in the local mall. So see another scammer, red flag. If your kid gets a job at a kiosk, they are doing crime.

Lacey Moseley
There is nothing legitimate about any kiosks. Anytime you ever went to get a phone case, one of those hair curlers where you burn your hand, wrapping your hair around it, all of it can't. Be on that show. I was walking in the mall, like, a year ago and just walking, and this lady came up and started rubbing my face with some shit from her kiosk. What the fuck is wrong with you, man?

Jacquees Neil
Like, don't just come up in somebody's personal space. They be on some shit and some kiosks. And that's how you know it's a scam. Because when you go to the mall, you are physically putting yourself at a place where there's tons of retail. Most people, except for kids who like to hang out at the mall and, you know, be bad.

Lacey Moseley
Most people who go to the mall have an attention, purpose to shop or to purchase something, right? So if you are an entity of a retail conglomerate where you have to attack people with your products, chances are something is amiss, because people already came here to shop. They should just come by and shop, right? Be like, oh, that look cool. Let me go up there.

Jacquees Neil
You ain't gotta come in my face and put your shit on my skin. That was aggressive. She was wrong for that. But they be doing that. They be trying to touch your hair.

Lacey Moseley
Come on. Come here. Let me curl it. Like, what are you doing? Yeah, but I respect the hustle.

If you work in a mall kiosk, you're a scammer, and I love you. So he started working at a mall kiosk. Another red flag. And then when the company went under, because, duh, his boss told him that he could have all the remaining inventory signs and displays from two kiosks the value, which he estimated at $80,000. What?

Jacquees Neil
That was some stolen shit. He was like, nah, man, I'm coming off this trail right here. You have it. You can go ahead and keep it. Go ahead and keep it, right?

Lacey Moseley
He was like, I actually can't bring it back to my house. Cause the cops are searching it. Yeah, that nigga. Nah, that. This already don't sound on that.

No one was that generous, yo. TR's life started off shady as fuck. There was no way that he wasn't gonna be a scammer. So TR sold that inventory and some additional merchandise and invested in setting up more kiosks. By his 19th birthday, he said he had about 4.5 million, which he invested in a kiosk company he called.

Right. Marketing group, spread over 40 locations. Marketing group. Okay. Marketing group.

Jacquees Neil
Yeah. What are y'all slang? It? We also don't know what he's slinging at these kiosks. Right.

Lacey Moseley
Yeah, told us. He hasn't told us. What is he selling? He's selling sunglasses.

He then came up with an idea for a console for pirated video games that would plug into tvs and allow users to play classics like Space Invaders and Galaga. I'm guessing these are olden timey games. I'm not a unobtrus girl, you know? Galaga, stop trying to act like you, like, 18, you know. You know what Gallagher is?

Gallagher? Is that the guy who smashed the watermelons? That is also Gallagher, but it's not Gallagher. Is it Galaga? Is it Galaga?

Jacquees Neil
It's like Tetris. Galaga. It's like Tetris and Pac man. Okay, I know Tetris. And Pacman.

Lacey Moseley
I don't know. Galaga. I ain't never heard of Galaga. Okay. I don't know what that is, but.

So he was basically like, soulja boy did this recently where he made his Soulja boy PlayStation cube that we talked about on another episode. So I. So, you know, he was the first one who was like, let's bootleg gaming and put it on. Okay, okay, okay. Maybe not the first.

He was back in the Gallagher days, so it was a huge hit, the game, until the FBI began arresting the retail operators for pirated games. Panicked, tr abandoned his business. Business. He abandoned his business. So he stopped doing the crime he was doing.

Abandon his business. And he gave all his inventory to his second niece.

You know how you abandon a business? You know, you run out. You run out, you get your car, you speed away, and you donate all the inventory to whoever walks by, so. And he left the United States to travel in Europe, where he laid low for five months. Now, I want to say, shout out to the writer of this article again, Katie, because you really dressed this nigga up something special, because, like, he abandoned his business.

Then he went on an e pray love tour of Europe. Girl, that ain't what happened. He ditched the crime he was doing, and he fled the country to hide from said criminal charges. He went somewhere with no extradition or something. They couldn't extradite his ass.

No, he just loves France, just like Norman Polanski loves France. It just. That's all. Just loves France like no crime. So when he returned to the United States, he bought a junkyard in upstate New York and began selling car parts online.

By his late twenties, Tr had enough money to purchase 110 foot, but yet he named it never enough. See, and that's the issue. TR is that it should have gotten to be enough at some point, and that's how you get caught. Scammers get caught. Scammers get greedy.

Jacquees Neil
That's how they get caught. Like, you make that money, and you be like, you should just be like, you know what? I done made my millions. Let me go ahead and invest in it a little bit. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the fruits of my scams.

But you keep trying to push it until you get caught. I don't even think it's greed, though. I think it's that there's a high in getting away with shit. Like, think about how much better food tastes when you didn't have to pay for it. That's true.

Lacey Moseley
You know what I mean? Like, think about, like, if you've ever been somewhere where you were not supposed to get in, but you did somehow, and then it's like, ooh. Like, it's even more fun because technically, you, like, weren't invited. Maybe that's me. But I've, like, crashed so many emmys parties and stuff, and was like, this feels better because I didn't have a ticket.

Jacquees Neil
So, you know, I'm not there yet. So when I get there, I'll let you know. You know, I'm not a crash emmy party level yet, but I will listen. I don't want to be at crash anymore. I'm only going if I'm invited.

Lacey Moseley
But when I was much younger, I would. I would get. We would finesse, so. But it is like, ooh, it feels like we shouldn't have this. So I think that feeling propels people.

It's, like, exciting. Yeah. And it's go to, I think. Yeah. Getting to feel like you're genuinely smarter than other people.

Jacquees Neil
Yeah. Yeah. So he continued spending his money on expensive toys. Besides boats, there were watches, cars, and eventually planes. Mmm.

Lacey Moseley
Mmm. Delicious. Bad for the environment. So Tr often posted selfies on social media showing him in exotic or daring situations, squinting into the distance with a giant gun in his hand. What's that supposed to signify?

I'm. We like, you a marksman or something. What does that mean? Like, squinting in the dentist with a gun in your hand? Like, what's that?

Jacquees Neil
Melancholy. Taking pictures with guns is just so funny to me. Like, am I supposed to be scared through my phone of you with that gun? Like, there was a joke about Trump. Supporters were on TikTok saying, like, well, how many school shootings have we had since Trump was pressed?

Lacey Moseley
This is the lowest it's ever been for school shooting. And then people were responding to the TikTok and being like, oh, that kid has a gun. Let me close my computer. Well, got him. You can't do anything from the screen.

I always just think, that's so corny, but teach his own. One day, a young FBI agent, Jim Reed, was called to respond to an arson case at a small airport in Athens, Texas. Holy shit. Okay. I was born in Taro, Texas.

Athens, Texas. Texas is, like, maybe an hour and a half away. But I have family who live there. I've been to Athens, Texas, a lot. There's, like, legit nothing there.

But when he got there, the small jet looked like it had been barbecued on a rotisserie. This is when Reid learned of Theodore Robert Wright. Reid googled his name, and within seconds, he realized that TR was Internet famous. He read the stories about a previous accident involving a fire and an emergency landing in the Gulf of Mexico, where TR and his business partner waited in shark infested waters to be rescued. The more reed dug, the more he was sure that the fire was one piece of a grand scheme.

But he had to lay low because he didn't have enough evidence. So we always talk about hater jobs. If you work in insurance sales, great. That's fun. If you work as an insurance adjuster, you hater.

You a hater. And I will say that specifically for, like, lost, damaged property fire. Because if you're a claims adjuster for accidents, for the most part, they'd be on your side. They were trying to help you out. But if you're a claims adjuster for, like, home insurance or, like, anything that's insured, that's property, you a hater.

Like, you're coming to life insurance. Even. You come in checking the body, like. You know, well, technically, this. This nigga had a scar on his elbow, so that's $5,000 less.

Jacquees Neil
That means he was prone to accidents, right? Like, being petty. Like, if someone commits suicide, you're like, oh, well, we can't give you your policy. Cause remember, that's down here. Like, you know, haters, haters.

Lacey Moseley
So, of course, this hater gets tittalized when he gets on the Internet and realizes that this is not TR's first fire. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. So then his hater senses are bubbling, and he starts his investigation a year after. So the more redug, the more he was sure that this was a grand scheme.

A year after purchasing the yacht, TR bought and a jet for fighter pilots that requires parts. Wait, excuse me. So, after a year after purchasing the yacht, Tr bought a jet for fighter pilots that requires parts from overseas. So he called up a former soviet test pilot who found the required parts on a former cold war base in Hungary. Wow.

Jacquees Neil
What? That's the richest sentence I've read in a long time. Yeah, like, that doesn't even compute to me. Like, what does that even mean? He bought a fighter jet, which apparently, you can just buy those.

Lacey Moseley
Not military. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's not. White people can do anything. In the US, we have military grade weapons for sale. So, I mean, I guess you can buy a fighter jet.

Cause why not? Cause why not? Why not? Why wouldn't you want one either, Lacey? Why wouldn't you need that?

So he's like, you know, you know how you do? You buy a fighter pilot, but then you like, ooh, I need some parts. So you call up your homie from the Soviet Union, Gustav, you know, you hit him up or whatever, and he pull up and tell you that all the parts you need aren't hungry. So then, you know, you pull up the Budapest, like, as we do, you. Know, you know, as a nigga does.

We pull up the Budapest niggas in Budapest. So that's when TRS business took an unexpected turn. Ooh. So while he's trying to get the parts for the spider jab, bitness is starting to go in a bad direction involving them Russians. They be.

Jacquees Neil
They gonna fuck you. So Tr said, I'm going to do the same thing that I did with my junkyard business. In 2005, I start putting the plane parts online. I became known as a guy who could deliver anything anywhere in the world. So.

Lacey Moseley
So, basically, this wasn't a downward turn, as I originally thought. He decided that he was gonna start selling, so because he had access to fighter jet parts. Mm hmm. He's gonna start selling them to more people who won't fighter jet parts. Like, what the fuck?

Jacquees Neil
How many? How many people out there won't fighter jet parts? You know, I'm on eBay every day trying to get fighter J parts. You know, I need to. I need to go ahead and circle that corner of the Internet, because apparently I'm not.

Not privy to it. When the revolution happens, I will be in my fighter. That's, you know, honestly. Listen, listen. Come November.

I don't know when this is coming out, but come November 4, either in the future or in the past, we may need some fire fighter jets to start, you know, fighting niggas on these. Right. That's why you need to have your fighter jet. All right? So I.

Okay, okay. So, occasionally, he would sell entire aircraft. So I think what happened here is that tr, you know, called his homie got his fighter jet parts, and then was like, wow, I have friends everywhere. I probably could actually sell this kind of rare shit to other rich, bored, you know, nasty rich men, right? Yeah.

Lacey Moseley
So he gets online, he starts slanging this, you know, you can get anything from a propeller wheel to a whole aircraft he's selling online. And here I was thinking cars online was, like, bizarre, but aircraft online, honestly? Yeah. So I started, I'm like, I want to give my. We're trying to buy my grandmother a car, but, you know, we're trying to buy a cheaper car.

Jacquees Neil
And so, yes, so I'm like. And she lives in Chicago, so, like, I can't be there so I was. I'm looking into online car buying, and I was on that motherfucker for five minutes, and I was like, this shit is too much. And I gave up. So can you imagine online looking for airplane parts?

Like, what the fuck type of person do you need to be to be looking for fighter jet parts on eBay? I mean, I want to be that kind of person. I need to be that rich and that bored that I'm like, I don't know, fighter jet. That's what we're into now. I want this kind of hobby.

Lacey Moseley
So what's interesting about this is that occasionally when he sold the aircrafts, they were demilitarized, you see? I said occasionally when it should be 100% of the time. So, demilitarized, meaning that their weapons were removed. Other times he said the weapons weren't removed. Mm hmm.

Jacquees Neil
Wow. That shit is scary. That shit is scary. He never planned to become an international arms dealer, but the sales just snowballed, so. Oh, shit.

So he starts selling fucking fighter jet guns, basically, yes. And missiles to non government agencies. Oh, tr, you knew what you were doing. How you go from. How you go from selling your old boss's old kiosk inventory to selling weapons to fucking in the black market.

Lacey Moseley
What's wild to me about this is the type of manipulation that we always get when it comes to, you know, people who are higher in society. So this man is white, he's male, he's rich. He's obviously on the upper echelon of the society as it exists now. So in storytelling, we're getting like, he just fell into being an illegal arms dealer when it's like, no, he did not fall into that. You don't trip and fall into being war dogs.

Jacquees Neil
Yeah. If I go outside right now, I could go anywhere, but there's probably a hundred percent chance that when I come back inside, I would not be an illegal arms dealer. No, you wouldn't. Well, maybe 99%. 99.

You gotta always save 1% for the unknown, right? Somehow I trip and fall and getting roped in. You know, what if somebody say, yo, lazy, let me come here real quick. And I go naturally as you. Yeah, and you go.

You go naturally. Like ten seasons, five Emmys, one Oscar winning movie. All you gotta do is sell these motherfucking weapons. What you doing, lacy? You gonna sell them damn weapons?

Lacey Moseley
You know, I would. Tr said the deals just got bigger and bigger and the stakes got higher and higher, and before you realize it, you've got a load of freshly overhauled attack helicopters getting snuck out of Mersi in the middle of the night going to Chad.

Jacquees Neil
Wow. You know. You know how that happened? One drink turns into two. Three drinks turns into a fleet of helicopters getting snuck out of France.

I need to look at this guy again. Cause you sent me the picture of him, and I saw it before we started talking about this episode. But as this episode has gone on, my visual image of what he looks like has changed.

I see him as somebody from breaking bad now, like Tuco or some shit. He's also operating in, like, places like Athens, Texas, is like, there's. If you do anything in Athens, Texas, the chances of you getting away with it are exponentially higher. I mean, the town is small, so people talk a lot, but it's a lot of land. You could just be out in the woods doing any old damn thing.

Lacey Moseley
Like, it's a great place. So Jim Reed, our hater. That's our hater investigator. He's back. He began calling the Texas department of Insurance and studying TRS financial records.

Reed believed that he had found many clear cases of fraud. In 2012, TR bought a 1966 Beechcraft baron, the plane that later ended up in the Gulf of Mexico for $46,000, and he insured it for $85,000. TR got the insurance money, but that wasnt all. Reed found out that TR also conspired in a personal injury lawsuit. His partner sued TR and received $100,000 settlement from TRS Insurance Company, then turned around and transferred $42,000 to TRS company.

So, to make that clear and simple, he's saying, so the hater has gotten the records. He's like, man, when this fool crashed his plane in the golf, he was like, my neck, my back, my neck and my back. And so he got his friend to get insurance from his company, and then was like, you can keep half, basically. Damn. So you sue my company so that I can pull the company insurance to get $100,000, then you get half.

Jacquees Neil
Damn. I mean, listen, I can't be mad listen, I mean, I can't be mad if I would be mad if that, you know, if it affected me, but since they don't, you know, listen, make that money. But also, like, what gives Reed the right to be doing all this damn digging? You was just supposed to come down here and investigate one charred plane at an airplane hangar in anthes, Texas. You weren't supposed to be out here.

Lacey Moseley
Look. Who are you? See? Rock hard. He's rock hard in his office, just typing and crunching his little numbers, getting all horny.

Oh, my goodness. So then in 2014, TR bought the first plane, the rotisserie one, that. He bought that one for $190,000. That's the one that Reed was originally supposed to be looking at. Okay.

One of his companies, co owned with a frenchman, had secured insurance on the plane for half a million dollars, basically $440,000. After the fire, the frenchman filed the insurance claim, and TR received the proceeds. So that's the other thing is, like, he's buying stuff for cheaper and then burning it up after he has an insurance policy that doubles the value.

Jacquees Neil
Man, I. That's. I mean, listen, that's smart. But it's also wild as hell. Also wild as hell.

Lacey Moseley
He crashed a Lamborghini, did the same situation. So it's like, his insurance company has been paying out so much. And what's crazy to me is, like, if you get an accident, like, if you get, like, more than two accidents, you get dropped by your insurance every Tuesday. Like, ain't nobody gonna drop him. The black man from Allstate showed up to my house and said, you are no longer in good hands.

When I got into my second accident, they was like, bitch, get outta here. Scram. Flo was like, yo, I need to take everything from you, including the t. You can't even watch my commercials no more. I would've did that shit.

Flo came back with that progressive clicker, and she was like, boop, boop, boop. We no longer represent you. Damn. But he's continuing. He waking up on Tuesday and was like, well, guess I'll go crash a plane today.

You know how I do. This is him on the phone with his Soviet Union fighter jet pilot friend. So he also, remember, got a boat, and that boat sank in the marina under mysterious circumstances. So here's the other thing. Tr, how you gonna.

Every time you. You gotta. If you, like, you gotta keep something. You gotta, like, you gotta keep one or two things. Like, you just obvious at this point, bro.

Like, this is ridiculous, to be quite honest. Like, how you just go, the audacity of this, man. You gonna buy a lambo and be like, yeah, it crashed into the lake yesterday. Yeah, I know. I took it off a lot last Thursday, but, yeah, it crashed into the lake.

Very unfortunate. I will need half a million dollars. Damn. Damn. How he get away with this shit for so damn long?

So getting caught. Perfect time to answer that question. Reid wanted to get TR into custody before he fled the country. Cause, you know, Tr loves to do that. So he tracked TR's location to Las Vegas.

Reid and another agent set up a sting that looks like a scene out of a seventies action film. Almost a dozen agents dressed to blend in were stationed inside and outside the hotel. See, this is why they be doing this, because they begin so horny to have a sting after movies made stings and the FBI looks so cool, I feel like regular FBI cornballs are probably always like, oh, is it a sting day? Costumes, like production value. Like that.

Jacquees Neil
Like, that McDonald's documentary.

Lacey Moseley
He was so corny, too, because I watched it after I did the episode for our podcast, and I was like, this is lame, because it was a bunch of FBI guys being like, so then when he left the receipt, I was like, ooh, I'm running. I'm a run. The barcode, like, winking it. I was like, you guys are fucking nerds.

Ew. So these guys are horned up. Horned up in costume, ready to sting. Yeah, they push and zipper.

So doctor was in Vegas to close a deal he had for $70,000 in cash to a. He had it in a Louis Vuitton briefcase. So he came with the crime outfit. He got a Louis Vuitton briefcase filled with $70,000 in cash as he goes to close a deal. I feel like these days if I see anybody with a briefcase, I just assume there's cash in it.

Like, where else in life do you need a briefcase? It's either cash or a weapon, right? It's never. It's never bitness like it used to be. So in the briefcase with $70,000 in cash, right?

Along with the title for a Ferrari. Two pistols and two cell phones, one of them disposable. Reid, who was waiting in the lobby, recognized TR from the photos, that he had been wanking at you every night.

Jacquees Neil
That was in. That was in. That was in the article? That was in the article. No, but it's obvious that Reid is definitely, like, after this man.

Lacey Moseley
Like, he's, like, hot on his trail. Emphasis on hot. So he's been collecting these photos over the years. See, that's why I was like, I guess you're doing this for research. But, like, where do you keep these photos at your house?

I don't know, Reed. You know, listen, some, you know, haters. Get excited for this kind of stuff. I feel like he had one of those boards up in his house where he was drawing with the little red string. Like, now he's there and now he's here.

This is his obsession. So I'm painting all of this on Reed. Reed's probably a normal guy. Reed followed him outside as Tr took his keys from the valet and stepped toward his Ferrari. Tr?

Right, Reid said. We have a federal arrest warrant. Tr turned and froze, shocked. What's going on? He asked as agents surrounded him in court.

Tr pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit arson and conspiracy to commit wire fraud. And he was sentenced to 65 months in a low security federal prison until February 2022. Damn. Just one count? This nigga count.

Jacquees Neil
He didn't. He arsoned at least eleven counts. Yeah, he arsoned at least 50 times. And, wife, this boy arsoned everything he got. What you mean, just a count of arson?

Lacey Moseley
He was arsoning all over the damn country. He was arsoning all over the damn country. He arsoned all his stuff. What y'all talking about? He had fraud and everything he owned.

What y'all mean? I love it. You love to see it. Just one count. He was also ordered to forfeit his jet, the one he hadn't arsoned, and to pay $988,554.83 cents.

That $0.83 is petty in restitution to various insurance companies. Okay, how much was it again? How much did he have to pay again? 900. $988,554.83.

Don't forget, they're $0.83. We will not take 82. You know, we won't take it. Okay. I mean, honestly, I'm surprised.

Jacquees Neil
Is that low? Without much shit he like, but that's. That's still a lot. I mean, that's a lot of money. But I was thinking, I think they.

Lacey Moseley
Only made him pay back what he stole. Okay. Which is fascinating. Cause I feel like courts, with restitution, they'd be adding on, but I guess you can't add on for pain and suffering if it's like a company. Yeah, that's true.

Jacquees Neil
That's true. Thank Tr. I'm proud of you. But I'm also disappointed. Cause it just felt like, one.

Lacey Moseley
You had a lot going on. You didn't even get in trouble for being in a legal arms dealer, it feels like. Right? He didn't. He got in trouble for burning his shit up, like, too much.

Like. Like, we don't know how many murders he's facilitated, how much illegal crime he's, you know, unknowingly a participant in from selling fighter jets. Feels like something that shouldn't be able to be sold by a civilian, at least. Yeah. You got in trouble for doing too much shit.

Jacquees Neil
Too close together. You could even. You could have spaced it out. One one year, one the next year. And people be like, damn, he just unlucky.

Lacey Moseley
Tr. You know, you came, you saw, you arsoned. You barely got a jail sentence. You gon be. I know, 65 months and the low security.

Jacquees Neil
This dude watching cable, right? I think Martha Stewart got more. She was like, wasn't she? At least in the medium. I mean, look, February 22 is around the corner.

Lacey Moseley
If we make it there. So Tiara will be back, and I'm sure things will suspiciously start heading into the Gulf of Mexico again and being arsoned. At this. At this point. At this point, tr just got shielded from COVID This nigga, he can reward.

Not really in jail like they've been. Getting, but medium security, they get that shit in high security and medium security, he quarantined away from niggas. He in his own little space. He got a bed. He getting his meals.

Jacquees Neil
He just ain't. He on house arrest base. Well, guys, speaking of arrest. No, I'm kidding. Speaking of nothing that we were speaking about, this is a great segue.

Lacey Moseley
We're going to take a break for some non scam advertisements, robbery and fraud. And we are back. And I'm so sad because you guys know what it is. It's the end of the show. But before we let Jacques go, we have to talk about an honorary Charlotte scammer of the week.

You know him. You love him. Indubitably. Kings and kangs. Yes, I said kings and kangs.

Guys, today we're talking about rapper Ti, who gets caught in a fraudulent cryptocurrency scheme. Really? Yes. Now, we all know Ti is a rapper, an avid cheating enthusiast and habitual hymen checker. Oh, God.

And also a dictionary dabbler.

Ti loves the word of the day, okay? Whether he uses it correctly or not, you know, up to you. So, in 2017, the securities and Exchange Commission implicated five Atlanta area people, including Clifford Ti Harris, for promoting flick fl, lowercase I, uppercase k, and Coinspark, two unregistered and fraudulent initial coin offerings, icos, led by film producer Ryan Felton. So these are supposed to be, like bitcoin? Icos.

Like, y'all, we got a new cryptocurrency. Come get some of that flick, y'all, which I invested in. Coinspark.

Look, bitcoin sounds fake, too, but coinspark sounds fake. Coin spark. Sound like the cousin to that coin machine at the grocery stores. Coin star. Coin star.

Jacquees Neil
Yeah, that's what it is. His less bright cousin is less bright. Because, like, yo, we can't take quarters, but we can take nickels and dime. So.

Lacey Moseley
We also don't take pennies. We don't take pennies either. We just take nickels and dimes now. When you put it in, if we don't take it, we do keep it. But we can't give you change like cash for it, though.

Sorry, that's not what we do at Coinspark. All right, we also charge 50%, right? Yeah, there's a 50% fee for using our services. So the complaint against Ti claims that ti offered and sold flick tokens on his social media accounts, falsely claiming to be a flick co. I have to say flick like that.

To be a flick co. Owner and encouraging his followers to invest in the flickering. I see. So when he made this encouragement, I remember this because they were actually talking about it on another podcast that I love, and, um, they were saying that he was on Instagram shaming people. Like, oh, why?

Why are we buying out cars and jewelry and what, your kings and queens? Why we are buying these subjugated materials from the ribbon flag. And when we really need to be investing our money in things like flick.

Jacquees Neil
And when we invest, we can have the conglomerate be of the pomerant. Open your third eye. So Ti also asked a celebrity friend to promote the flick ico on social media and provided language for the post referring to flick as Ti's new venture. Ti social media manager William Sparks was also charged. Well, I'm guessing Coinspark.

Lacey Moseley
Maybe he has something to do with that. Producer Ryan Felton used the funds he misappropriated and the proceeds of his manipulative training to buy a Ferrari, a million dollar home, diamond jewelry, and other luxury goods. A spokesperson for Ti said in a statement. Mister Harris regrets his involvement with Mister Felton. He attempted to help a local entrepreneur who presented an innovative idea for streaming online, platform that would help reduce barriers of entry for creators of music and video content.

Jacquees Neil
I just looked at a picture of Ryan Felton, and he looks like he sniffs butts. What does that mean? It just looked like he looked like he owns some shit. He just looked like he owns some shit. Go look at this damn picture of him.

Lacey Moseley
Oh, my God. It looks bad. He looks bad.

So ti was like, look, I didn't even know how I got involved in coin flick. What I actually was trying to do was start a streaming platform, much like Tidal, it was gonna be title with a t. So ti said, I'm here for a streaming platform. That's all. I didn't even know nothing about the flick coin.

Okay, listen, I thought we was about to start the black title. Well, I guess it's already a black title, but we was gonna be title. With a t. It was gonna be a title with the t. Well, it's already a title with a t.

Jacquees Neil
We was gonna be titled with two t's. Title with two t's. We was gonna be waved, get wavy. Okay. I had no idea this was also a bitcoin conspiracy.

Lacey Moseley
Ti, I feel like you did know in Atlanta, y'all. I love Atlanta. Cause Atlanta is also a good scam mecca. I feel like in America, you've got Silicon Valley, which is not number one. I would say Brooklyn's number one.

Brooklyn, you got Silicon Valley, you got Atlanta, and you got Miami. Okay? For just, like, great, ripe scam in America. And then you go to Nigeria. You got places in Nigeria.

Beautiful scam utopias. And I'm learning more about scam regions of the world. I really enjoy it anyway. Anywhere that has, like, bank accounts, like Switzerland, the Bahamas, Caymans, you know, scam island. Okay, all right.

Jacquees Neil
I mean, you know, listen, one day I'll go to some of these places and learn from the best, but until then, I just need to learn from you. You gonna tell me all the scams? Cause I. You know, I'm trying to get my bag up in the easiest way possible, you know? In the easiest way possible, as you say.

Lacey Moseley
Well, shout out to an unscrupulous, metaphysical. RTI triumphant king arte. Also, ti came to me. If ti came to me with a fucking business proposition, I'm like, nah, bro, nah, bro. Like, listen, I love you, but Jake?

Jacquees Neil
Nah. Is you happy? Yeah, I am happy. Which is why it's a no no. Why you want to go and do that, Jake?

Lacey Moseley
Come get some flick. You know, we could do whatever you like. Yeah, as long as it's crying. As long as it's crying. Do whatever you like.

All right, Jacques, where do you want to be found? Oh, where do I want to be found? You can find me everywhere at Jacques Neal on the social medias. That will literally tell you any and everything you need to know about what I'm doing and what I'm up to. And that's just good enough.

Yes. Oh, yeah. Culture kings. Culture kings. Check that out.

Jacquees Neil
You know, going strong. You know what I'm saying? And then doesn't. It's in development right now, but me and the homie Raisani, we are gonna be having a new show on the headgum network. It's about reality tv, so check that out.

You know, I'm somebody who knows very little about reality tv, so it should be very fun to listen to me talk about it. So, yeah, I'm excited about that. So, you know, like I said, hit me on the socials, find out what I'm doing, check it out. Be a good time. All right, guys, and that brings us to the conclusion of our show.

Lacey Moseley
As always, if you'd like to find me, I'm at D I v a l a c I diva lacy on all platforms if you want to follow the show. Scam got us pod on all platforms. If you want to snitch on your friends and your family. Scamgotticepodmail.com. all right, congregation stay scheming, scam goddess.

This has been an earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam goddess is starring me. The scam goddess, aka Lazy Mosley. Scam Goddess is produced by Chelsea Jacobson and engineered by Marina Baize with research by Sherlyn Vera. Stay scheming.

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