Fraud Fridays: Bluffing Bertha w/ Nore Davis

Lacey Moseley
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Stay scheming. Scam cause robbery and fraud scam, cuz. Robbery and fraud scam goddess. What's poppin congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Moseley, aka scam goddess.

And we're back for another installment of scam goddess. Okay, and y'all say it with me. Say, I'm gonna do it right. I am so what? I am so excited.

Yes. For this guest today. And I am. Guys, we have a hilarious comedian. I love when we get a New York comedian because they just have just a certain spice and flavor.

You know what I mean? Like, they got that bodega, bacon, egg, and cheese vibe that I'm fucking with. You know what I'm talking about? And he's got a popping ass comedy album out right now. It's been in the New York Times, submitted for a Grammy.

Like, when I tell you this man is hilarious, y'all. Are y'all ready? Okay. And that comedy album, I know you're asking. Cause you're gonna turn it on right after this, aren't you?

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Okay. We have the Nori Davis. What's up, Nori? I'm good, Lace. Lacey, how you doing, man?

Nori Davis
Thank you for having me. Thank you for being here. Yo, I love that we just met on this zoom. And look, now my fake New York accent is coming out. You know, hey, I see what you're trying to do.

I see what you trying to do, but you don't have to do it. That you already real. You being with us all. I lived in New York for two years, and I said, no, thank you. Oh, really?

I don't blame you. What got you? Was it the weather or was it the actual trash ass people out here? What got you? It was a combination.

Lacey Moseley
Honestly, the people were great. I love the people in New York. I'm very straightforward, so it's nice to just be able to be like, nah. Out of people's face. And it's cool, you know, it was the trains and the weather.

I was like. It was just too much of a fight. Like, winter is eight months a year. That's the ghetto. Why is it eight months?

Nori Davis
I love the weather. Cause I love the change of it. Cause, like, New York is like. It will give you vast differences of changes of, like, look, can you handle me when I'm cold? Can you handle me when I'm hot?

Can you handle me when I'm humid? Nigga, can you handle me when I'm wet? All that shit. I love all that shit. But do you see how you're saying the weather is challenging you?

Lacey Moseley
Like, the weather's like, can you handle me? Like, that's too. Like, I need the weather to just be weathering. Don't be trying to put me through. Shit like, yeah, no, I love that shit.

Nori Davis
We built in my character. I don't know. I guess it's just. It's just not boring for me. And, like.

Cause, like. Versus. I know you in LA. Like, la. That sunshine never gave my depression satisfaction.

This is like, my nigga, you sunny again. Like, stop. Okay. I will tell the truth. Shining.

Lacey Moseley
I'll tell the truth, nori. You're right about that, because I actually have been listening to rain. Sounds like I listen to rain so much that I have my favorite rain albums and my favorite rain songs, and I'm like, ooh, this rain on the tin roof. And it be just getting like, ooh, there you go. I didn't want to feel like an asshole, Lacey.

Nori Davis
That's just me, though. Like, I. Cause I lived out there for four months, and I remember that last month was just killing me. Like, I was, like, in between gigs, unemployed. I got, like, a riding job.

But then, like. And I never adjusted to that three hour shit. I don't know what white person made that up but them days be long as fuck. Like. And then that son just out there cheesing.

And you like, my nigga, I'm sad. Like, can you rain? Can you bring in a tornado? Can you do something that can justify my sadness? California, it doesn't.

So. And I want to give you another thing. Where the subways are better in LA so you can come back. Since COVID I have been to New York during COVID and the subways was still looking how they had looked. Not fresh.

No, it's better. No, it's only open from like, I think 06:00 a.m. and it closes at one in the morning. You know, it's like a heroin addict who got his act together. It's like, look, man, I ain't even open that long now.

You know what I'm saying? I'm on. Like, I go to work during the day, you know what I'm saying? And then I go back to bed.

Lacey Moseley
Listen, not you saying it's better now. I can't. Look, I love New York, but I always say I would never live in New York again unless I was so rich that my skin never had to touch the natural air. Like, I want to be Mariah Carey rich to live in New York. I never go outside.

It's just from car to garage. I love that for you. I love that for you. And you sound like that's what you want. That sounds like you, like, these are my standards.

Nori Davis
New York, bring it or I'm staying my ass over here. I am. Even though, listen, LA is raggedy too and the sun is clocking out. This daylight saving time. I don't know if it's just 2020, but the days are short as hell.

Lacey Moseley
I'll be turning around. It's 04:00 p.m. ain't no more sun. I was like, bitch, how the sun don't leave early. You can't leave early.

Like, what you doing? Bye, see y'all later. I gotta go. Leaving work all early and shit. Bye.

Nori Davis
Y'all right? Like the sun. You were supposed to go for lunch. You can't leave after your lunch break. You can't leave for the day.

Yeah, right, son. Did you leave for the day again? No, I told you I already put my hours in for the week. I told you my cousin was coming, right? Look, I had to pick her up from the airport, so I'm gone.

I told y'all that. I really told you that. Check your email. Check your email. Oh, my goodness.

Lacey Moseley
Oh, nori, this is wonderful for you guys. Who don't know. I met Nori on this zoom today, and he feels like my cousin. So this is we, fam. Ain't nothing.

Nori Davis
I love it, too. It's all about the vibes, baby. Nori, do you have any relationship with scams? Oh, man. Yeah.

I mean, come on. I'm a millennial, man. Look like I was the feds. The way you look away, looks like. I was the feds.

I'm like, wait, you trying to come up off on me? Like, did somebody tell you something? Is that why? Tell me the crime shit. Hey, yo, say I'm overly scared.

I hate when my phone's just like, is this your allow? Current locations? And I'm like, my nigga, why don't worry about where I'm at, right? I do the same thing. It's like, oh, we need your info for cookies.

Lacey Moseley
No, you don't get no cookies or no milk. What was the other day? I went on bones and noble, like, just to go on there, and I'm just like, okay, want to use your load? We want to use your current location. Allow or don't allow?

Nori Davis
And I'm always like, don't allow, nigga. The fuck, man? I'm just on here. I'm just looking for a book. I'll tell you what location I want to go through.

Algorithm. Do you feel like you're closer to, like, being a scammer or being someone who is scammed? Like, a mark? Like, have you ever been scammed? Yeah, I get scammed.

I'm so gullible. I'm an empath. You tell me I have no lie detector. I'm a fucking empath. I will believe you.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I will believe you. I will. I can be manipulated. Like, I'm just need to.

I'm learning to set my boundaries and know, like, telling what was right and wrong. But, yeah, I'm a gullible motherfucker. Like, first little scam that got me was like, yeah, back in the day was sneakers, man. Sneakers. Like, going to Fordham Road and copping Jordans and thinking them shit is real.

And then niggas pointing out like, yo. You thought they were real on Fordham? Fordham Road? Yeah. How much did they cost?

Oh, they cost about. They upped the price on them, because then you think it's, like, real. Like, it's a resale price. But this is when resale. The resale market was not even huge, so they were just jacking the price up to make it seem like the sneaker was real, and it wasn't.

Lacey Moseley
But, damn, I thought they was giving you the discount. Thought you were getting, like, you thought you got the hookup, not them selling them premium price. Yeah, that was straight. Like, that's when China, Chinatown was in that motherfucker like. Or Jordan was dunking backwards.

Nori Davis
Jordan was dunking backwards. He had two hands on the rim. He had a big booty. Two hands on the rims. He had cankles tripping.

And I cop. I caught. I remember cop some fake Jordans. That was. But me and my boys knew it was fake, so we knew it was a scam.

But we was the type of niggas like, fuck it. We gonna accept the decision we made, and we got confidence with it. We can scam these other n schools so they can think we fly. So we were. It was a royal blue patent leather eleven, Jordan.

Now, I don't know if you're familiar with the Concords. You know the Concorde? Yes, I am familiar with the Concords. I dope. Imagine those were royal blue.

Nigga, that never came out. Yeah. I was like, that's not what. That's not even a sneaker. That's not a thing at all.

But we was like, yo, these shits came out. They're exclusive. You even know? And niggas in school be like, where you got that from? He's like, yo, we went to Fordham Road.

They was like, oh, fordham? Oh, shit. Cause that was. That was a place in the Bronx where I'm like, I'm from Yonkers, New York. So it's like a.

It's like hours outside the Bronx or even, like, even less than that. Like, right, right outside the Bronx. So going shopping in the Bronx was a huge deal. Like, damn, you got a car. You got your mom's car, right?

Lacey Moseley
It's a lot of distance to travel in the Bronx. And I'm talking. We're talking high school. So, you know when you. 1817, shit is huge.

Nori Davis
Like, everything is big, you know? Right? $125 sneaker is basically $600 to you at 18. I remember going to Sammy's and having a coogee sweater. Like, back when it was dope.

A coogie sweater. Okay. Living better now. Sweater now. Sweater now.

Yeah, right? A coogee sweater had to be like, 350. But I remember being 17, like, oh, my God, I'm gonna have to get, like, three jobs, and I'm gonna have to get, like, a loan. There's no way I can ask my mom for that. Like, three jobs.

Three jobs and a loan, my nigga. Like, I was like, but so, yeah, so we finessed everybody in school. Like, yo, yeah, I got the new J's with the royal blue, and it wasn't even my size. It was an. Back then, I was that thirsty.

Lacey Moseley
Did you get them bigger so you could grow into them? So my boy bought them. My boy bought them. And, like, it was like a three crew shit situation. My nigga Johnny and my nigga will.

Not the whole crew wearing the same shoes. Yes. Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh. Yes.

Nori Davis
Nobody even knew. We scammed ourselves. We scammed the school. They even know. They were just like, yeah, we got all three of them.

Like, we not gonna wear them at the same time. Like, that's what we would tell people. Like, so I would wear them on a Monday and then Johnny wear them on a Wednesday. Y'all had a chore chart for him. You, like, you get them on Friday, but only until six.

Yeah, we only did that for a little bit until niggas is like, yo, them shit is not real, bro. What you doing? Y'all convince people they were real, though. And I love that y'all advertised for the scam, y'all. Yeah.

Lacey Moseley
Yeah, y'all could get some, too, down on Fordham, bro. Yeah, like, where. Where'd you grow up in high school? Like, what high school you went to? I went to Liberty High School in Frisco, Texas.

Texas, ago. Wait, do you actually know where Frisco, Texas, is? No, I do not. No. The way you say word, though.

Nori Davis
I'm just agreeing with you. Like, all right, word. Word. Like, not word, like, yeah, I know where it's at. I'm sorry that gave that off.

Lacey Moseley
I always say Dallas. I let my guard down, nori, and I told you where I'm really from. I always say Dallas because no one knows for sure, but it's like a very white suburban area, and we. I was, you know, my skin like Napoleon dynamite. You grew up in Napoleon dynamite type situation?

If it was, like, nicer. Okay, okay. It was nicer. It was so nice. Like, the police followed me around my neighborhood every time I went home.

Nori Davis
Really? Nigger, you don't live here? My family's right over there, and they're waving, right? No, literally, I kept my Texas id for so long, it was illegal to have my id in California. When you move to California, you're supposed to, in the first three months, get a new id that says you're from California.

Lacey Moseley
And the reason for that is because of a previous episode I did with Jacques Neal, where you can totally do insurance fraud if you don't have the right address. And we did. Yeah, yeah, that's why we did that, too. That's why. You ever do that with.

Okay. Yeah, yeah. When I used to race cars. Never find me. He ain't gonna find me at all.

Nori Davis
That ain't my address. Wow. I still do that. Like, even with medical records, they all have my. My last two home addresses.

I never give my current one. I don't. That's a tip for anybody listening. Never give your current one. Man, you just don't know when niggas is out here looking for you, man.

Just give them. Give them the last two where you was living at. Let that. Let that junk mail go over there. Don't need that penny saver looking for your ass.

Lacey Moseley
You should never be found is what we're saying. By any means. That's right. But, yeah. Okay, so I.

Nori Davis
Oh, so I'm sorry. Yeah, so you grew up in fresco. Go ahead. Yeah, I kept that id, and then I would have to use it a lot to show police officers that I lived in my neighborhood. But my scam in high school was my mom never let me go nowhere.

Lacey Moseley
She never let me go nowhere to see nobody. I was in the house. I was on MySpace and Facebook, and I wasn't allowed to go anywhere. So the only way I could go places was if I was involved in stuff. So I would get involved in everything.

I was student council president. I was class president. I was a cheerleader. You was in the cheerleader squad. I ran track.

Nori Davis
I was like, oh, chess club. I'm queens. I'm the black Queens gambit. I'm an art squad.

Lacey Moseley
Listen, that was my dad's ham. He taught me chess, and then he just beat me all the time. And he would place bets and be like, well, if you lose, you gotta watch my golf clubs. And I would always lose. And I was like, oh, God, what's happening?

Nori Davis
Yeah, yeah. He just trying to get you to do a chore the easy way, right? Yeah, my mom was like that, too. Well, she tried to be like that, and I would just try to. I would finesse my way out of it.

Like, I finessed her to, like, get me my. Give me the car and borrow it, and then she would just go wild n out on my voicemail, like, bring the fucking car back. Are you always going out? And then when she see me, I just finesse her again. Like, hey, I just want to go out and share.

Like, she trying to be that type of mom. I'm like, but it's different from, like, a male. You have a very diffusing face. I get it. I feel like if you.

Lacey Moseley
I say you have a very, like, diffusing energy and face. I feel like if you were like, come on, it's not that big of a deal, I'd be like, you're right.

I feel like you can hit me with your car and then get out and be like, come on, girl, walk it off. And I'd be like, I can walk, lacey. I feel like you would get me. You should consider scamming. But I just wanted to give you a limp.

Nori Davis
You look cute with a limp. You know what I'm saying, girl? Come on, girl. That look good on you? Your booty look fat with that limp.

You know what I'm saying? Let's get into our first segment, which we're late as hell, and that is on me because I like talking to you. It is what's hot and fraud. So this is where we warn our listeners about a poppin scam. Or I take a letter from you and your friends where you hopefully snitching on yourself or your loved ones.

Lacey Moseley
And today we're taking a listener letter. And, nori, I'm gonna need a fake name from you. Okay? Fake name. A fake name for me is Franco.

Nori Davis
Franco. Billy. Franco Benson. Wow. Franco Benson.

Franco Benson. What a New York fake name. Franco Benson. So Franco Benson says, hi, I'm writing because I got scammed today. And this was on November 29.

God damn. Just a couple days ago. Damn. On Black Friday. Is that Black Friday?

Lacey Moseley
I was scammed. Let me hop immediately on my email, and as I want you all to do that, scamgottispotmail.com dot snitch on your friends, your family, and yourself immediately. Tell me as it's happening. I wanna know before the cops pull up what happened that Friday. Got that number, baby.

Don't call the cops. Okay, so I was writing because I'm scammed today. This morning I missed a call from someone who I believe to be from my bank. I looked up the number and it matched their fraud department, so I answered the phone. When they called me back a few minutes later, the man on the line seemed perfectly legitimate.

He started the call off in a normal manner. He asked me to verify some recent declined purchases. He knew my name, et cetera. In hindsight, some of the things he asked were sketchy as hell. He said, what is your pin number now?

Nori Davis
Nah. Nah. Yeah, come on. Come on. We've talked about this.

Lacey Moseley
I didn't ask you your pin. The bank already knows your pin. I mean, did they even ask him for his account number first? Did they go straight to the pin, my nigga? Hey, Franco, it's us, your bank.

What's your pin? Your pin number? Yeah. Hey, Frank. Like, wait.

Nori Davis
Not even my whole name. Hey, Frank, what's up? We knew you called. What's your pin, man? We're having trouble here.

Lacey Moseley
We the best. I mean. I mean, you said you have trouble. We knew you had the trouble. So what's your pin?

Right? I know we call it Chase bank, and I hate to chase you down, but we need Japan. They will never ask you that. I told you guys, your bank is like, a very jealous girlfriend that you're constantly cheating on. She is suspicious.

She will be like, okay, who you texting now? I don't even just say she, she, or he, or non binary. They. Let's go with that. They will be like, who you talking to?

Okay, so you went to what, grocery store? And you got apples, but you don't even like apples. We freezing this. Like, they're very petty and small, so. And the reason that they're petty is because that money that you think that's yours, they're investing it and using it all over, they're buying real estate with that shit.

Nori Davis
So that number that's in the bank is like, yeah, that's what you got. But they using that shit. So when you want to cash out, they like, wait a minute. What's the problem? What's the problem?

Lacey Moseley
Dude, you're doing the most right now. You want all your money. They sent notifications. Like, why are you buying? Why are you in h and M?

Nori Davis
What's the problem? Why do you keep using our money? I mean, your money. I'm sorry. We're the panoramic.

Lacey Moseley
The fuck do you need skinny jeans for? Go home. Go home. You don't need that. So just know that that's your money, but they know that they using your.

Money, so it's they using your money, and they don't want you using it. That's why they got all them spending trackers. You think they trying to help you? They not trying to help you help them. They're like, we trying to show you you eating at restaurants too much because we are trying to put this money into the housing bubble.

Come on, now. Facts, facts, facts. All the facts. You don't need postmates every night. The fuck.

Nori Davis
Exactly. What the hell y'all doing, man? Stop spending all our money. I mean, your money. All right, go ahead.

Lacey Moseley
Right? Exactly. Our money. Your money. Our money.

So what is your pin number. And then Franco says, I can't believe I fell for that. He said he was going to close out my debit cards and send a new card via FedEx, which is what tipped me off that I fucked up. My information was very recently compromised, and I had to get a new debit card. And they sent that joint through the regular degular.

USP's. Whoo. At USP's, I used to drag y'all girls, but now I know the government ain't giving you coins. Uncle Sam cut you off from your allowance. And that's why y'all trash.

Cuz y'all are trash, but it's not your fault. But you are trash. And, like, the bank never tells you what they're sending it. They don't send it. They say mail.

Nori Davis
They just say mail. They say mail. They say mail. Oh, man. And they don't even say when.

They don't even say when either. The bank is the most entitled bitch I've ever met. She be having yo money. The money you make. That's right.

Lacey Moseley
And she'd be like, girl, you'll get it when you get it. You'll get it. It'll be out there between two weeks to 17 months. You'll get it. You gonna get it, though.

Like, don't act like you need money. Why are you acting like you need money? That's weird. Are you poor? Right?

Be gaslighting the shit out of you. Send it through FedEx. So still, I double checked the number, and it was from their fraud department. So I figured because my account was so compromised, that they were going to send it extra secure via FedEx. See you putting stuff on it.

What we talk about, Okam's razzard, the simplest conclusion is the right one, which is that you being robbed. Don't be trying to. They say all that. He was telling himself something. Franco was telling him a lie so he can make himself feel better.

Nori Davis
Like, yeah, this is right. And it's like, no, man, you know, listen to that instinct. It was already too late. The instinct was trying. The instinct was trying.

They were just like, you know what? It's too late, bro. Like, yeah, they trying to make it secure, make you not feel as bad. And we gotta stop doing that. Guys, I highly recommend watching the undoing if you like caucasian myths.

Lacey Moseley
And I love you. Caught up. What? I'm caught up. Oh, okay.

Oh, my God, bro. We can't spoil it. Even though I don't believe in spoilers. If you ain't watched it in 6 hours in one sitting, like, I did. Your fault.

Nori Davis
But I agree. That shit came the fuck out. You better hurry up. You better hurry up and get on. But the I'm doing is for people who just hate liars and manipulators.

And they're the ones that get caught by them. And I am one of them. So, yeah, that shit. That shit got me. I was undid by the end.

Lacey Moseley
I was like, oh, I'm undead. Okay, y'all did that. Y'all did that. They undid it real good. And then mother.

Nori Davis
All right, so we can talk about this. Like the fucking white, rich ass motherfuckers.

Lacey Moseley
Altercation. With the helicopter. They like, oh, my God. Get the chopper. What type of superhero shit is that?

Nori Davis
When you and y'all. Rich, Rich. You can hop to a helicopter bay, man, fat and you in the air, and there's no type of interference. And you flying. And did you peep.

Lacey Moseley
Did you peep that, dad? Through the helicopter? Plane? The air pilot's name? He was like, Bob, Bob, Bob.

Nori Davis
Let's go. Let's get out of here. And it's just pull the chopper around. The way they shot, looked like Nicole was flying the motherfucker. I'm like, who's flying this bitch?

David shoulder Pilot. Weren't you, Rich? Oh, God. It's just like secession. Like, they're constantly in helicopters.

Lacey Moseley
And I'm like, oh, okay. This is the vibe. Okay, got it. Oh, yeah. Secession.

Nori Davis
I was in secession. Check that out. Season two. Yeah. Okay.

Lacey Moseley
I gotta go back and watch again. Cause I remember. Remember they were at a banquet and this comedian was roasting the family. That was. That's me.

That's you? Yeah. I'm the one that spoiled the million dollar deal right there of the sexual harassment instead of roasting him. And then Roy ran out the room, like, what the fuck? And then the white lady ran out, too.

Nori Davis
Yeah. And then I blew the deal off the Roy's. Yeah, that was. Oh, my God, Nora, you love you even more now. Oh, God, I love that show.

That show's fire. I love that show. And then when I got that audition, I was like, yo, I gotta do this. And then I just. I just.

I just did my best stand up and like, niggas just fuck. They fucked with it, so. Hell, yeah. Yes. Oh, my God.

Lacey Moseley
Let me finish this letter. Jesus. I'm sorry, y'all. It's gonna be a lot of departures. Cause I just like talking to this nigga.

So y'all just got to hear us connect. And y'all will be fine. They like the departures. They be acting like they don't, but then they be like we do. Yeah, I mean, also, I'm scared of myself.

Is that clear? Cause I'm afraid of them. The congregation. Listen, they're churchgoers and they're mean sometimes, so I am afraid to. Oh, you got the Bible belt.

Nori Davis
You got the Bible belt. Fan bases. Baby, baby, stick to the goddamn story. I mean, Jesus Christ. I mean, Lord, the saints, but stick to the story, baby.

You got all over the place. Listen, we came in here for a sermon like we do every Tuesday, and you are making several departures. Past scammers, though, like, just like they were called on by God. I was called on by God to talk about scams. I believe facts.

The whole religion is a goddamn activity. But we're not gonna do that. No, we can't do that too much because my mama already called me and she was like, you need to stop talking about organized religion being a scam. I was like, but it is. Well, but it is.

But it's okay, mama. It ain't for you. That's great. I be getting my vibes. Listen, I still go to my scam church, okay?

Lacey Moseley
And every devotion, that's what Baptists call the musical part. Devotion. Devotion is lit. That's my favorite part. Everybody starts singing and clapping and I feel the holy ghost.

Anyways, there you go. Y'all even remember where we are in this story. I'm gonna remind y'all. So this is like, this is where Franco was like, okay, FedEx is probably legit, like, convincing himself in his mind, knowing damn well, putting on his red hair wig and his fake american accent and being Nicole Kidman. So he says.

Anyways, a couple of hours later, I get an alert that my account balance is below the threshold. Ooh, I think that's $25.20, $515. That's low, right? So it says, I check my account and there are all these 711 and dollar tree charges. I don't shop there.

I'm bougie. Oh, damn. Okay, listen, don't knock a dollar tree, okay? Cause sometimes you have to go to the dollar sycamore and get 711. They got Fiji water, they got some mean brand stuff in there.

You ain't never needed something at seven or eleven. Come on now. This person was living. This person's like a everyday, low price, lower middle class person. That's just like using this card now.

Nori Davis
Like, I just need some. I need some errands. I'm running some errands with your shit. They said, I. But Franco said, I buy my toilet paper from Erwin.

Lacey Moseley
I have never been to a 711. I go to Costco and buy them both.

I dial the exact same p and oh, oh, Pnc. Now, I know that bank. That's Pennsylvania, Ohio. So it says, I die. So I dialed the exact same PNC number to yell about my debit card not being shut down.

The very kind customer service person was like, nah, you been scammed, honey. Damn. Not that. Picking up the phone and telling you, damn. Wait, so this is the actual bank that said that, or is that the same number that they called?

They never talked to the bank. Franco was only talking to a scammer. But the scammers, usually, once they get you, they get you and they move on. They don't pick up the phone and be like, hello, robbery. Oh, yes.

No, you were a part of a robbery. We had robbed you. Like, they don't pick up and tell you, oh, my God. But this one, then it's exciting. This is very good.

Nori Davis
This is riveted. Oh, my goodness. This is the undoing. This. This is undead.

Lacey Moseley
Oh, my God. You was undid. About to be undone. Undid. Oh, God.

They had undid you. That ain't right. Yeah, so they're like, yeah, nah, you've been scammed. You've been scammed, bro. But before you report it, I just need to run over the coals real quick.

Nori Davis
If you. I just need to know, how was your scam? Did you appreciate, like, how was the customer service in your scam? How was the service? Can you.

Ten being satisfactory, one being that is not satisfactory, what would you rate? How convinced were you that you were being hoodwinked, you motherfuckers. I wanna give you a two. All right, sir, no need to yell. We will definitely take that into consideration.

Lacey Moseley
Oh, no. Oh, I love this letter so much. So she says, this is actually a woman, but I like Franco, so we staying with Franco, she says, so my husband and I were discussing Frank. If Franco can be a woman, we hide the identities here. She gonna know when she hear this letter, she gonna know, I feel.

So she says, my husband and I were discussing and determined that these people must be using VoIP numbers, meaning mass numbers, to defraud people. We've talked about that before. You can absolutely do this. That's why I always tell you guys, if the Social Security department calls, you talk about, they need to verify something, hang up and call the same number back. And I know that seems crazy, but they're calling with a mass number.

That's not really. Who the fuck. Damn. So, security, you don't give a fuck about what's happening out here. Wow.

And they definitely ain't gonna call you. The Social Security agency ain't got nothing urgent for your ass. Not urgent for a phone. So I feel like this lady is definitely, like. Like baby boomer, right?

Nori Davis
I think we're talking baby boomer because I feel, like, younger. I don't answer. I don't answer numbers. I don't know, period. Like.

Lacey Moseley
Oh, my God. No. Oh, she black. Oh, they got it. Oh, they don't got lucille.

Nori Davis
They got lucille. They got it. Not a queen. Not a queen. Yeah, they got the queen.

They got queen during the Panasonic. That ain't right. During the Panasonic queen. I'm sorry. And if she's older, they're easy to get because technology.

And it's hard to know what's real. Like, my mom still answers all the spam emails, and, like, oh, they said I won. I'm like, ma, you ain't answered. You ain't win shit. Okay, stop it.

Lacey Moseley
Not mine. You ain't winning shit. You ain't win nothing. Stop that. Please.

Nori Davis
Please don't reply to that. Marriott ain't got no rewards for you. They calling out the. That's not real. It's not real.

It's not real. It's not real at all. They figured out that it was a fake number. See, here's the thing, though. She doesn't give me boomer vibes because VoiP is something that, like, she was on the interwebs, like she was on the dark web doing the race to figure all this out.

Lacey Moseley
So she says, this felt next level to me, and I wanted to share it is next level. We do talk about this on the show a lot, but if you're not caught up or if you haven't listened to every episode, which I'm so shocked at how many of you have, which, I love you. Thank you. We talk about fake phone numbers, so you can't just trust the number because the number appears on your phone and looks like, oh, it comes from the bank or the Social Security department. You have to hang up and call back if you feel like something's amiss.

And don't undo yourself, y'all. If you feel any little, tiny feeling, even if you're wrong, what does it hurt if you're wrong, to just do it and just be like, I'm getting off the phone. I'm not dealing with this. What does that hurt? Nothing.

You can call the bank back. The bank gonna be there, bitch. They hold jobs, taking your money. I gotta add on to that. Lacey, you right.

Nori Davis
I gotta add one more. Treat your phone. Treat somebody calling your phone, just like somebody knocking on your door. If ain't nobody ever text you or say they coming, then nigga ain't for you, right? So if you see a number just calling, and I say this before, and I hear people saying, like, well, maybe it's somebody in my family that got hurt and they gotta use another number, well, then they gonna leave a voicemail because them other numbers never leave a voicemail.

So it. Wait for that. Don't answer numbers. You don't fucking know. They're gonna call you.

If it's somebody your family, they gonna tell you. They gonna text you first or you gonna put in your contacts. This is Fred. And then when they call you again, you know it's fucking Fred. But if it's some 888 or a number that look real, don't ever, ever answer it.

Let that shit go. Let voicemail take it. Voicemails your friend, y'all right? And listen, I have had to call my mother from another phone number because my dumb ass, this is. I don't know what's wrong with me, but, you know, on the holidays, you, like, give your agents gifts, right?

Mm hmm. So my agents are at CAA, which is very, very big. And like. Like, I don't mean that in, like, the. Ooh, I have big agents.

Lacey Moseley
I mean that in, like, the fucking building itself in Los Angeles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been there. I go thinking I'm just gonna drop off my little presents to them, like, and I'm leaving them at the front desk. And I had just bought this car brand new or not brand new, I think I gotta use.

Why don't I know that? I don't know what it is. I think it was a sleigh. I don't know. Whatever.

Ew. What? It's a nice enough car that I started to trust the car, which you don't do. So I think my key fob was out of battery. I left my keys in the car because I'm trying to pull these gifts out.

Left my fucking phone in the car. Oh, Lord. All I had was the gifts. I walk in, give the gifts. I get locked out.

I'm, like, distraught. So I have to go back in and I have to use one of the desk assistants phones to call my mother. And so, yeah, my mom did have to pick up from several different random numbers. But guess what? It's me on the.

You know what I mean? It's like. Exactly. You could feel the vibe. Just feel the vibe, guys.

Nori Davis
Feel the vibe of it. Answer it. If it's somebody that's like, yo, it's me. They identify themselves and you like, okay, I know who you are, and then continue on. But if you don't know the person, hang up.

Lacey Moseley
Also, if anybody wants anything from you. And this is just a rule of thumb for life, if people want shit from you, you need to question their motives. Always and often and frequent. I do it all the fucking time. And sometimes I feel like a.

Like a psychopath. Cause literally someone called me that I work with who I had never talked to on the phone yesterday, and I was like, ooh, what happened? What's the tea? Is she mad? My head is spinning.

Cause I'm like, why are you calling me? And at the end of the phone call, she was just like, I just wanted to check on you and see if you were good. And I know it's a hard time. And I was like, oh, she was just calling to be nice. Wow.

Nori Davis
Wow. All right, you just start spiraling. But you should. We should all spiral. I am encouraging you to spiral if it keeps you from getting robbed.

Lacey Moseley
So she says, I feel like this should. I should have known better because my students are always telling me about the hot and fraud on the street. Students. See, she's a teacher. Yeah, she.

Nori Davis
Oh, I'm sorry. She old, and she said screets. Hey, sis. Frank, I love you. She said on the screets.

Lacey Moseley
And I was still happy. Not up on technology like that. Poor thing. I never really read the nice things, but she said some nice things at the end and stuff about isolation and stuff, and I'm. I hear y'all.

Listen, I listen to my favorite podcast every Tuesday, too, and it makes me feel like I'm with friends. So. Also, I love recording podcasts because now I get to talk to Nori for an hour. Wait, so she. So she does a spam at a scam, and then at the end she's like, oh, so let me tell you, else was happening on with me.

It's just a little. But I like that you guys. You said you never read it, though. That's cold. No, I read it.

Nori Davis
I don't read the end. No, I read it. I read it. I don't say it on the air. It's our personal moment.

Lacey Moseley
Okay. Okay. Friendly. You guys send nice things. Still send nice things.

But, yeah, I just read it to myself and cry silently. So all right. We're gonna take a quick break. The structure of this podcast has fallen apart. We're gonna take a quick break.

Nori Davis
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Nori Davis
Those of you who know the structure of this podcast are screaming scam goddess, baby. Where is historic hoodwinks? What is happening? So, historic hoodwinks, it took me 30 minutes to read a letter. Guys, it's quarantine.

Lacey Moseley
Leave me alone. So, guys, historic hoodwinks, as you guys know, if you listen to the podcast or if you knew, this is where I would regale Nori with a famous hoodwink. And we'll just get his thoughts and opinions throughout. So today we're talking about Big Bertha, the grifter who swindled her way into her own one woman show. Mmm, sounds like my kind of vibe.

Nori Davis
What year is this? Sounds like a six. Forties. Twenties? Like 19th century.

Lacey Moseley
Yeah, 19th century. All right, baby, we're going to 1888. We're going to 1888. I got it. I got it.

Nori Davis
This is Lovecraft. Lovecraft. Lovecraft country. Episode five. Let's go.

Lacey Moseley
Yo, can I secretly say y'all don't tell? Everybody be quiet. Don't tell. That show was confusing. All right, so you know what it is?

Nori Davis
It's kind of like Game of Thrones. You gotta, like, watch it again and again and then you'll get it. So how many if you watch only three times. You in the cult. That's what's happening.

Lacey Moseley
You in the cult. I ain't no damn cult. I gotta watch it six times so I can get it. You in the culture. Three.

Nori Davis
I said three. I said three. Said, you ain't sending Jordan Peele $30 in. That's why you don't get it. And you gotta know, each episode is its own story.

You know what I'm saying? It's not a big arc. I mean, there is an arc later, but they are their own. Nori immediately started talking with his hands. So that's how you know I'm a stan.

I'm a low? Yeah. Cause I be hearing black people like, I don't get it. Like, well, let me tell you something. I got your back.

Here we go, bruh. Listen, now that I got your back, you out here with your white press shirt on and your black pants, handing out the pamphlets. No, listen. Have you heard about lovecraft country, brother? Have you heard about lovecraft country, brother?

Lacey Moseley
Okay, but come on, now we can both say, okay. We gonna get into this hiding fry. Cause I swear to God, I'm not. Gonna have this episode rid of it. I'm so sorry.

I just have to say one last thing. You can't tell me that the moment with Emmett till on that show, this is not a spoiler. Where they were doing the Ouija board, and he was like, am I gonna have a good summer? And the Ouija board was like, no, no, come on, now. That's trash.

Nori Davis
I mean, it's true. He was not gonna have a good summer. And the ghost told him, sometimes you feel like, aren't there spirits out there that warn the brother? There's spirits out there that just don't warn us, and we don't listen. I'm with it.

I get you, though. I get you. I understand. I also feel like that's victim blaming. They were like, Emmett, you know, you saw that Ouija board.

Lacey Moseley
They told you not to go down south. Oh, don't do him. Like, yeah, that's not. That's how I felt. Y'all was gaslit in the till from the grave.

Nori Davis
Damn. Who was Bertha? According to crude descriptions and newspapers of the day, Bertha was built like a tank. Oh. Not a brick house, but a tank.

Lacey Moseley
Okay. But what she lacked in society. Approved, feminine, while she made up with. In charisma. She was born in Germany and made her way to the United States in the 1880s when she was about 35 years old.

Damn. She was living to 35 in the 1880s. Wow. VW 35. Let's go.

She was living. Okay. Cause I was living. I know. She's german.

Nori Davis
She's german, right? Yeah. Okay, work. That's probably why she was so strong. So strong.

White Bertha or german white girl. Got it. I've always heard Bertha is, like, a joke or whatever, which, like, at times, can be fatphobic. So I've never been in love with that, but it's interesting to know. Not at all.

Lacey Moseley
You know, like, that was, like, a. Joke back in the day. Like, I hear my uncles and, like, you know, like, oh, who that big birth of bitch? You know, that type of insult. Yeah.

Nori Davis
Yeah. It's toxic. So this is where this comes from, is what I think is happening here. So Bertha, which I fucks with Bertha. I'm pretty sure I do, pulled off an impressive number of scams over the course of her criminal career, most of which hewed a similar core premise.

Lacey Moseley
I love that. You gotta stick to what you know. Bertha would claim to be a fabulously wealthy woman who was having trouble assessing her abundant funds. Oh, yes, that's my favorite scam. And if a kind man would simply lend her a small cut of money, not a cut of money, she would assess.

She would access her estate and pay them back handsomely. This is like the nigerian scam of, like, I inherited a million dollars. Just wire me taxes and fees. And I love it that I got caught with, too. That motherfucking scam.

Nori Davis
I hate that. No, that's the classic western Union scam. It is. I tell everyone on here, that's when I was buying. I was buying an engine for my car when I was street racing.

And then. Yeah, I thought it was great. Yeah, I was street racing back in the Tokyo drift. Yeah. Yeah.

I was street racing. And that's. And this was like the western Union. Scandal, not the BQE drift. Oh, yeah.

The major Deacon drift. Drift. We talking sawmill river road. Sawmill river parkway drift. Yes, we are, sis.

Yes, we are. I'm leaving right now. I'm getting my things.

Lacey Moseley
So think of it as a 19th century, kind of like advance fee email scam, which we know. So Bertha drift around, not drifted. See? Drifted around New York, stealing watches and jewelry, forging checks and bonds, making her way through the New York City in 1880. Right?

That's what you gotta do. You just gotta move. Where they gonna address me? We talked about this earlier. You don't know my accent.

You know, DiCaprio, you ain't gonna find me. In 1888, she moved to San Francisco with a man she said was her son, Willie Stanley. I feel like he's probably not her son. No, not at all. So, the rabbi's brother.

In February 1888, Bertha approached Rabbi AJ Messing, an acquaintance from her childhood, and explained that she had made a grave mistake of marrying a husband who was not jewish and conveniently deceased. So she said, oh, I married somebody. And he was not a chosen one. They did not choose him and also he dead.

She said she left an enormous fortune. She said that he left her an enormous fortune. But now she wished to marry a man within her family. Okay. And needed help finding a husband.

She told the rabbi that she had inherited $300,000, which is like $6 million in today's money from her husband, who was a Christian, one of them damn Christ followers. But she wanted her next marriage to be with someone from her original faith. Damn. She planned. She planning.

Nori Davis
She planning the husbands with the money. She was like, and then he gonna have this. Oh, lord. So you're around. You got a plan?

Lacey Moseley
I can tell you how much I love Judaism, okay? Yeah, right. I love Judaism. I love Hanukkah with an h and with a c. Okay.

Nori Davis
And all the candles. The candles. I like them to be scented. Mm hmm. Y'all don't scent them.

Lacey Moseley
Cause I like them to be scented. You know, eight days, you know. Hala. Hala. So she was lying.

And Bertha offered $1,000 to the person who could find her a thoroughly acceptable jewish husband. Fortunately, Abraham Grun, the rabbis brother in law and wealthy businessman, was quite taken with Bertha. Now, Abraham. No. He proposed in a matter of days.

Soon, Bertha had charmed her way to the top of the social class of Beth Israel, giving a check for $1,000 to the congregation and hinting that much more coin was to come. She said, rich, bitch. Okay. I got died rich. You heard about the girl?

Nori Davis
Yeah. And to those of you who got that song reference, you're cool, so. I got you. She was the guest of honor at numerous soirees and managed to acquire extensive wardrobe, including jewelry and either gifts or stuff that was on credit before. The diva.

Lacey Moseley
Diva, right? That's the thing. When you get rich, people just start giving you shit for free. They're like, you're an influencer. We'll give you everything for free.

I'm trying to get to that point. When I get some gifting sweets, I will be taking everything. You know what I do? I'm gonna bring people with me, and I'm gonna be like, take everything from me. And I'll be like, I go on.

Nori Davis
Set, I'm like, take them bagels. Take something to drink for you. Take them snacks. Take that fruit. Let's go.

Lacey Moseley
You never know. We're gonna be on take the water. All that. I've learned to take the water. Cause I don't like to drink water.

And I'm like, if there's water anywhere, I will take it. I would drink it. That's my rule for myself. But, yeah, but I think I wanna bring my family to gifting sweets and be like, oh, my God. I'm sorry, guys.

They're not used to anything. And then we get to the car. Me. Y'all get that PlayStation I wanted. All right.

Nori Davis
All your pockets full. We loot together. That's what I want.

Lacey Moseley
So she's popping, basically, all the girls love her. They think she has coins. They're giving her gifts. So before the two were wed, Bertha's alleged son, Willie, remember, that's the son that she had brought with her that we thought was probably not her son. So ask Grun who she's marrying for dollar 500 because he was unhappy with the idea of their union.

Grun obliged. Grun is Abraham. So Willie asked for many of grunge jewels so that he could redesign them in a modern way that Bertha would appreciate. Grun again, obliged. So her son is out here robbing her future husband.

He's like, wow, let me borrow all your jewels. Cuz I'm a. I'm a clean them. I'm gonna hook. I'm a shine it, I'm a redesign it.

Nori Davis
I got a whole metal kit. So what, you gonna melt down my metal and redesign? Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This what I do.

I'm her son. This is how I hook shit up, right? Yes. Yeah. So he's out here saying he gonna shine her jewels and clean the car and all this shit, like, just stealing, stealing, and I love it.

Lacey Moseley
So grunt. Family affair. Abraham, he turned. So he basically gives all this stuff up, right? And then Bertha and Willie left and went to Los Angeles.

Nori Davis
Got him, got him. Got him. Coach. He was reaching Abraham. They didn't even go through with the wedding.

Lacey Moseley
Like, I bet Abraham was a cool guy. He was probably cute. He probably not cute. He was doing too much. So he just got.

Nori Davis
She just put some pussy on him. And then the son was like, I'll hook you up. And he was like, I'll marry you. And she's like, I got him. And then, like, get him, right and bye bye.

Lacey Moseley
He's. The son was like, let me shine all your money, too. Like, let me just. Let's go to the bank, get you all your money out. I'ma clean it.

Nori Davis
Like, literally, I'm a clean all your money. Cause you can't have it in there being dirty. You know what I'm saying? Like, it has its own life. It has its own.

Lacey Moseley
Nobody wants dusty dollars, honey. Let us get them clean for you. And then they took all the money and they fled. Oh, yeah. So where'd they go this time?

Los Angeles. Los Angeles. And now it happened in San Francisco. Mm hmm. So there's, like, a tearing up.

Nori Davis
They ripping and running the west coast. They ripping and running the west coast. So Abraham turned to detectives to plead his case. Before he'd finished the story, the captain opened the book of the captain of the police officers, flipped to photo number 122 and asked, is it this woman? And Abraham nodded in disbelief.

Lacey Moseley
Cause he was telling his story. And he was like, listen, I met a bad bitch named Bertha. She had a son named Willie. She put that thing on me. Yep.

She put that thing on me very freely. I was gonna marry her in the synagogue. We was gonna have a party. Hell, yeah. We was gonna be on the chairs.

They was gonna put us up on the chairs. And we was gonna do my jewish queen. It was gonna be lit. And she had a son, Willie. Her son seemed very much like a grown man.

But I was like, I had seven niggas. I was gonna lift her up in the chair, too, because I know she's kinda big, but I was gonna have my niggas, like, lift her up. No, but she was gonna get lifted. Cause we don't get lifted. She was gonna lift it.

You know what I mean? Exactly. I got her like, I had my homies. We were secure. We was ready.

So her son was like, can I wash your jewels and can I sit in your car? And can I take all the money out the bank and clean it? And I was like, whatever. Yeah, nothing to it. I mean, I guess so.

Nori Davis
I want to be a family man. I want to be a husband. Never happened to anybody else. It's a very unique situation. And the guys were like, this you.

Yeah. Not the cops with the. This you. Not that quick. Oh, Bertha was out here, I think.

This is you, right? Yeah. Cause it's back in the day, they had wanted signs on the wall. Like, wanted. Right, right.

18 what? 1877. They were like, you ain't seen this sign. They got one on every block. And if she's Bertha, you know, then there's nobody else that.

I probably don't even look like her. So. Yeah, she didn't really change her name exactly. She just kept going, scamming niggas. Bertha, did you fuck Bertha, you fuck birthday?

Yeah, I was going, what if Bertha. Reason that everybody became fatphobic? Like, what if everybody was just mad that a bad bitch named Bertha pulled up? Bertha. And they were like, no, we hate them now.

Oh, God. Of course. That's why insults come from. They come from a form of hate. Of, like.

Lacey Moseley
They come from hurt. Yeah, former hurt. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it came from hurt. So somehow, just like that, man, I love that girl.

Nori Davis
You know, especially men, you know, our egos get hurt or we get hurt, and then we start going for the flaws as I'm at some little boy shit. So it's just like, yeah, you fat bitch. You fucking. And just like, don't be mad. It's not at all.

Don't be mad. Put that big pussy on you and you fell for it. That ain't my fault, right? Cuz you love the pussy. Don't be trying to.

Don't come after me. Nah, see, I fucks with Bertha. I think that's where a lot of this came from. Cause Bertha was out here turning y'all niggas out. Yes, she was.

Lacey Moseley
She turned all those niggas out.

Nori Davis
You ain't never had no german big pussy like this. Bertha was the first city girl, and I love it. She said, all the niggas want to fuck JT. They do. That's it.

Lacey Moseley
Yes. Bertha. So.

Nori Davis
She pulled a bottle. Yeah, Bertha's mvp, yo. She gets that. She's mv motherfucking p. I love her.

Lacey Moseley
I stan her. I need a punch. She probably scammed her funeral. Probably like, the last husband paid for it and buried it, right? Bertha probably alive.

Nori Davis
And this time, her name was probably, like, lanitha or something. She changed. I feel like she just flexed and just kept calling herself Bertha. Cause I don't really feel like she even tried. So she said, the finesse is so easy.

Lacey Moseley
I don't even have to lie to the girls. So Bertha called at the end. Abraham was like, you were scammed. Like, the first listener letter. She was like, you were.

You were. Yeah. 1813. It was a letter. Dear whoever does read this, watch out for Bertha.

Nori Davis
You were scammed by her sign. Bertha. And she put some wax on it with a beat. Some wax. Yeah.

Lacey Moseley
The b is for bad bitch. Yes. So the police were like, this. You. And then it was a book of.

So this book that they opened was a book of professional criminals in America by Thomas F. Burns. So this is a book. This ain't even the police just having information. Somebody wrote a book on this girl and on a lot of.

Nori Davis
Yeah, there ain't no social media back then. Like, niggas just had to take notes. It was probably, like, a collection of essays of all the. All the dudes that. That she finessed.

Lacey Moseley
I wish news traveled that slow. If news traveled that slow, we would be having a lot more fun. Cause, like, you'd be having, like, a good two minutes on Twitter with something before you like. Well, like, true kitchen. I don't know if something's gonna drop, but true kitchen.

This man, this black man. Okay, here we go. He cussed out his patrons at the restaurant. Okay. And specifically was coming for black women.

Do you know what I'm talking about? The. What does it know? I didn't see this video. Oh, you got us.

Okay, look up true kitchen on Twitter. After this. He cussed out his patrons because he was playing trap music, had a dj. It's brunch. And he had a two hour wait for his food.

And so he's just getting everybody liquored up, and they ain't got no food. So one of the girls then got up on the couch and start throwing that ass in the circle, as per the song. The song said, throw that ass in the circle. And she merely obliged. And he was like, y'all need to stop twerking.

And they should have listened, but they're also drunk and don't have any food. And there's a dj playing the trap hits, like, wait, turn off. What do you want me to do? When is this? That's a.

Nori Davis
What is it? True kitchen. It's a true kitchen. Okay. Yeah.

Lacey Moseley
It's a brand of, like, restaurants. Okay. Yeah. Brand new restaurant. Yeah.

Nori Davis
Okay. Yeah. They have it in Houston. They have it in Atlanta. They have it in Dallas.

Lacey Moseley
This is the one in Dallas. Shout out to Dallas home city. So she's throwing that ass in a circle. And he got mad, and then he proceeded to cuss out the whole restaurant. And he was like, I'm trying to make an establishment where black folks can feel comfortable.

And this is what y'all do. We was kings. Well, where's the food, nigga? Yeah, we are kings. We just modern kings.

Nori Davis
Oh, man. That's what sounds. We hungry kings. We're just having a good time, uncle. Until Grandpa.

Until you make the food, we chill out. You said this a fine dining establishment, and it's like, why you serving frozen drinks in old doucet bottles? Yeah, right? Oh, hilarious. Anyway, this is a departure.

Lacey Moseley
This departure was my fault. So we get back to getting caught. So eventually, detectives traced the pair to Texas and arrested them. This is Bertha and her son in heavy, heavy air quotes. Willie, this is back in the day, you had a feather on the letter you write, and it would be sent into a pigeon.

Nori Davis
And the pigeon would be like, yo, cops was like, we know who we gonna get, right? So while she was in jail, she was bailed out by an impresario, a producer of operas and plays. He saw an opportunity and launched Bertha into a theatrical career after bailing her out of jail. So this whole time, she's a scammer. The bitch has been putting on plays in everybody's living room.

Lacey Moseley
She's giving you lies. She's giving you acting, okay? That's what acting is. She's giving you marriage. She's giving you hope.

Nori Davis
All of it. She put on scanner. The category is robbery. Who's walking robbery tonight? Bertha.

Lacey Moseley
Walking robbery tonight. And she gave us Gabriel and Wiggs. Okay. And the jeweler. Nicole Kidman.

Nicole Kidman, move over. I need that red wig for me. Over. Yes. So this impresario realized he had a star on his hands, and he bailed it out of jail.

He said, let's get you to the theatre. Later in the trial, the judge acquitted Bertha, but found Willie guilty. No, Bertha, why you throw Willie under the bus like that? Her son, right? Was Willie her son?

Yeah, that was her son. I mean, well, he literally was stealing, though. Yeah, but she told him to do that shit. She told him to do that. Right.

Nori Davis
But, you know. Hey, you know. Yep. But this also, back in the day, you know, women didn't really have a lot of rights. So for all we know, Willie was not sharing the jewels or the money he had.

Lacey Moseley
Right. His narrative. Willie was being toxic. He was probably hitting her or some shit. He got abusive.

Nori Davis
That motherfucker had to go. Yeah, Willie's a bad guy. We've decided. He's a bad guy. He's bad.

Lacey Moseley
He had to go on no evidence. On no evidence. Willie is a bad guy. No, no. Just his vibe.

Nori Davis
In this story, that nigga's trapped, right? Your vibe's not good. We don't like your vibes, Willy. So as her story spread across San Francisco, Bertha performed a one woman show in which she recreated her scandals in an opera house posing with flesh colored tights. Ooh, flesh colored tights.

Lacey Moseley
That's hoochie for the time. Ooh. She got the flesh out. Not the flesh. Old woman show.

Nori Davis
She straight went Hamilton on these niggas. All right. I love it. So she also played scenes from Romeo and Juliet with an actor named Oftie. Okay.

Lacey Moseley
Ofti Goffty. That was his name. All right. Who had made a name as a human punching bag. Okay, so the show was a hit.

And it shows. A hit, a hit, not a pun. As soon as she went on tour, like across the west coast, she started frequently engaging in wrestling bouts with any man who dared to try her. And generally, she would knock them out. Yeah, well, I mean, her name.

Nori Davis
Bertha. And she from Germany. Yeah. One day, Bertha confided in her manager that her suitcase had a false bottom containing $10,000 in canadian bonds and thousands of dollars in jewelry. She asked him to handle the sale for her while they negotiated.

Lacey Moseley
Over the next few days, Bertha borrowed a small sum of money from him. He agreed to pay her $1,600 for the trunk. But before doing so, he snuck into her room and discovered the false bottom was fake. The, and this is a quote from Bertha. The moment I discover a man's a fool, I let him drop.

But I delight in getting into the confidence and pockets of men who think they can't be skinned. It ministers to my intellectual pride. Wow. Turns her on. She loves it.

Nori Davis
The proverb, the thrill of it all. The thrill of it all. Oh, Bertha. Oh, Brad. So, what a romantic scammer.

Poetic. I love her. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. We're gonna take a quick break, and we'll be right back for the end of the show.

Lacey Moseley
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And this is the saddest part of the show. Cause this is where I'm gonna have to let Nori go. Bye. It was great. It was great being really great.

But before I do scammer of the week, we're just gonna highlight one charlatan that we really believe is worthy of our praise. The scammer of the week. This week is actually more of a. An idea. It's called the secret sister Exchange Club.

This scam happens nearly every holiday season, so Robin season, y'all. Y'all know the holidays. Don't be thirsty for that. Ps five. What?

Wait, my friends are just getting scammed. I know. So many people on Stockx were like, fuck it. I'm just gonna buy the one that's marked up. I don't care.

Nori Davis
Oh, I'm such a stockx nigga when it comes to sneakers. I'm like. I'm like royalty. Like, oh, how much does it cost? Okay, put the bid in.

It's fine. I have no time for these retails and these prices. It's whatever.

It's whatever. Yes, Stockx. I'll pay. It was $800. Not a problem.

Lacey Moseley
Queen Elizabeth. Yes. What is the tracking number? Sense. Thank you.

Stockx, you say?

Nori Davis
Not a promotion for Stockx. They're still trash. Honestly, it's the bot. If you ever want to get something for real, like, you got to buy a bot. It's like $50.

Lacey Moseley
You got to buy a bot because you're not going to get it otherwise. The Internet's an unfair place. Listen, you know how fucking hard I had to work for Ivy Park? Beyonce said, I don't want you to have my clothes. Even with your money, your american dollars?

Ghetto. Don't worry. I'm working on my career, too, where it'll get us to this point where they just send it to us. So let's just claim it. Because I'm like, one day, Beyonce will send me a box and listen, I will do the most.

I will make a music video. I will wear all the clothes every day. I love it. I love. So the scam happens around the holidays.

The Better Business Bureau has warned people that the 2020 holiday season is expected to bring more scams than usual, which is absolutely true. They've just been, you know, scams are all about innovation. You know what I mean? It's just like Silicon Valley. Like, they change with the times.

They evolve with what's happening. And right now, coronavirus. Like, the girls were like, oh, time for robbery. Let me put on my gowns. They are out here.

So you just guys be vigilant. Yeah. So people began posting about a secret sister gift exchange campaign. Promising participants will receive up to 36 gifts in exchange for sending one gift. Yes.

That's a pyramid scheme. You heard it right? Huge scam. Wow. Yeah, it's too good to be true in the beginning.

Nori Davis
And when that last sentence comes, all you gotta do is this. That's the fucking skin. That's how, you know, like, people just start money to your iPhone. All you gotta do. Like that.

Lacey Moseley
All you gotta do. That's right. When you hear all you gotta do, just hang up four free iPhones. All you gotta do is send $5. That's it.

All you gotta do. And then bring 60 of your closest friends. But that's all you gotta do. That's all you gotta do is nothing. So y'all be careful.

So each year, a different version of the scam pops up. And that's the thing. Pyramid schemes are as old as Methuselah, but they just keep rebranding this shit and giving the girl a new dress and a new hairstyle, and y'all be following itself. So you have to be careful. And I say, y'all, but also me.

Like, I love a good pyramid scheme. If I get in the beginning, if I'm the one saying, all you gotta do to people. Yeah, right. So the scams usually are targeted towards women saying something like this. The secret sister gift exchange is back.

I'm looking for six women who would be interested in a pre holiday gift exchange. You only have to buy $110 gift and send it to your secret sister. That damn sound like Nixxiom. You will then receive six to 36 gifts in return. Let me know if you're interested and I will send you information for your secret sister.

We could also use some happy mail. I feel like this is gonna hit harder during coronavirus because, like, honestly, happy mail. Like, I'm so. I live alone. I'm lonely.

Like, I will take some secret sister gifts. Oh, well, make sure it's from sisters that you know. And it ain't with this. It ain't that scam shit, right? I need some Sista gifts, not some sister gifts.

So the US Postal Inspection Service explains that these gift exchanges are considering a form of gambling. Wow. Gambling, they say, but everybody supposed to spend $10, but they probably not. Or they going to Walgreens. You know, them body wash sets that they sell in Walgreens, that they always try to be like stock and stuffers that everybody hates?

Nori Davis
Mm hmm. Yeah, that's like that hotel. That hotel shit. Don't buy that. Ain't nobody doing.

They. They already have their own. Yeah, don't buy that. Don't do it. So the next time someone promises a bounty of gifts or cash by mail, email, or social media, the Better Business bureau recommends.

Lacey Moseley
Ignore it. Yes. They said, bryson Tiller. Don't, don't, don't, don't go for the scammer, sister. Right?

Just be honest with your friends. We did a great job with that. You loved it. Yeah. So report social media posts, guys.

So protect others by stopping the post immediately. Y'all know I'm not a Karen, but sometimes it's okay to throw on your spiky wig with the bang. Swoop to the right and report the girls. It's okay. Report the girls.

And then never give your personal information to strangers. This will open your identity theft up for scams. And we've talked about this, so, y'all, if y'all see the sister secret exchange club, don't do it. I don't know what they gonna call it this year. It's probably gonna be like, Corona Cousins exchange club.

Nori Davis
Oh, man. Black lives matter. Come together, brothers and sisters. Exchange rate, some shit. They gonna try to get up on the uprising.

They gonna try to get up on the. Come together. And let's glorify. And Biden's winning. You know who y'all are giving?

The gift of the vote. That's gonna be that. The gift of the vote. Y'all know who y'all need to do that? Trump supporters.

Lacey Moseley
I'm telling y'all, when. When we talking about a retail section, a market that loves to purchase. They love to purchase. They got trump earrings, necklaces, shirts, shirts, socks, shoes, panty drawers. Trump in the pussy, trump everywhere.

I wish I could sell Trump merch, because I would give some cute phrases and some cute, like, garb. I would, but I can't step to the dark side. But maybe I'll make some, like, Maga mommies gift exchange club. Hey, y'all, rob the Maga mommies scam. That's right.

Nori Davis
That's it. Buy one. I want Trump to win. All you gotta do is send $50 and bring your other magna hats, and you get a free. I love Trump, and he should win hat.

I know that's a lot of type, but it's gonna fit in the hat. And he's gonna win, right? I love Trump. He should win. Or maybe like a voting ballot or maybe.

Yeah, maybe like a magna ballot. Buy. If you buy this ballot, this is gonna help your ballot get more votes than Biden. All you gotta do is send dollar 50. Listen, the election ain't over.

Lacey Moseley
I know we voted on over. I know we voted a month ago, but listen, the election ain't over. Fake news. Fake news. Max, he can still win if all you gotta do is send $50 so we can submit your ballot.

I'm just trying to. I'm just trying to get my podcast to the status of fake news so that Trump will recommend it to people. He was like, watch Newsmax. He's like, the fuck is Newsmax? Oh, God.

All right, guys, we've reached the end. Y'all got a little treat. This is a little bit of a longer episode. Y'all know a bitch is tired, so, you know, there you go. Nori, you're wonderful.

Like, I'm just saying that genuinely. I know. We're like, jesus, what a delight.

Where can this. What we ask, where do you want to be found? Oh, you can find me on Instagram at Norie Davis Noredavis. And that's. That's it.

Nori Davis
Nori Davis. And also, every Sunday, I'm going to be doing some Zoom shows and so social distancing shows inside so people can sign up on the link and watch the show. It's called it's a vibe. And I'll be performing in the studio. That's social distance, so they can pull up on that.

The first show is December 6 and every Sunday after that. So hell, yeah. And that link is in my bio. Yeah, bios. Drop the Instagram one more time for the girls.

Lacey Moseley
So they. Nori Davis. Nor Davis. At Nori Davis. Very simple.

N o r e d a v I s, guys. He's so funny. Pull the fuck up. Oh, my God, you guys. As always, if you want to snitch on your friends and family, scamgotispodmail.com dot.

If you want to snitch on yourself like our black queen did today that we named Franco. Love you, sis. Sorry that happened to you. Love you, Franco. It's gonna be all right.

Love you, Franco. You sound like you got enough coin. You gonna be all right. And if you wanna say me and my husband. Yeah, right.

Husband, honey. So he got another bank account. Y'all good. If you want to find me, it's D I v a l A C I, diva Lacey on all platforms for my shenanigans. And I know y'all gonna tag me on Twitter and talk shit to me.

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