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Tom Ellsworth
30 seconds. Did you ever think you were made good? I feel I'm supposed I could take sweet victory. I know this life meant for me. Why would you bet on Goliath when we got bet?

Patrick Bet-David
David? Valuetainment. Giving values contagious. This world of entrepreneurs, we can't. No value.

Adam Sosnick
They hate it. I run, homie. Look what I become. I'm the one.

Patrick Bet-David
All right. Episode 411. I got two big announcements I'll be making today. One of them will be right off the bat. The other one will be at around 930 mark, which is about 30 minutes, 25 minutes for the next live.

And all I'll tell you is the next live will sell out within minutes. When I tell you who it is, it's going to be a big debate. It's going to be one of the most trending time, not even one of the most. It was probably the most trending topic on Twitter last week that led to a lot of love. Hate.

We hate you. We love you. Can't believe this is what's going on. And it's all leading to a discussion, which is what we want. So wait, Toby announced it.

And for some of you guys that work a little bit, you want to work a little bit more faster than others. Have the 5990 live ticket ready on the website because the vip's, you know, they go out real quick and you're going to be able to be backstage with us to meet the guests and have a conversation with them at the cigar line. So stay tuned for that. Meanwhile, let me go through a couple stories we're going to go through here today. Number one is so they reported that they had 353,000 jobs in the month of April.

And then quietly in the middle of the night, midnight Baron. Is it barons? Yep. Barron's breaks it reports saying they were way off and the government indirectly, Grant slowly corrected themselves after having made the announcement that they had 353,000 jobs, which, you know, makes the government look away till we show the numbers here on this one. Very interesting.

Next story. Obviously, some of the trial stuff that's going on, you know, listen to in as Donald Trump allegedly talks about his hash money secret recording. There's a couple of things with Melania and then ice cube on celebrities, rappers embracing Trump. It's a personal decision. Evin is gonna talk about the Ashley Biden stolen diary.

Is it real or not? This is a Times now story. Iran lawmakers declares Tehran obtained, they obtained nuclear bombs. Meanwhile, you should hear what Lindsey Graham said we should do with Iran, which is quite interesting. San Francisco look how noble the politicians are in San Francisco.

They're buying vodka shots for homeless alcoholics in taxpayer funded program. So for some of you that are listening to this, saying, my mayor doesn't do it, how come my politeness send an email to your congressman and congresswoman and mayor and say, how come you don't give us vodka shots like San Francisco does? By the way, that would be the funniest email if you sent to your congressman. Can you imagine? You say that?

Dave Smith
How about us? We want to have a shot. Hey, we need free happy hour. What kind of a city is it? I would love for congressman to say, move.

Patrick Bet-David
Go to San Francisco. Playing ludicrous song in the back. Anyways. That's right. Americans are raking up phantom dead.

Multiple job holders. Primary job full time. Wait till you see the numbers. Record breaking number. Tom will show you.

Another stat came up that we have to talk about this. Remember during COVID when they were saying, look, american savings is at the highest it's ever been, $2.1 trillion in savings, and they're paying off their debt. And you're going to see people's credit card debt is going away. This is actually a good idea, Ubi. And we said on the podcast, let's just wait a few years and see what american people do with their money.

Cause if there's one thing we know is that majority of the population does not know how to save. Majority of the population. They're professionals at spending money. But this data will absolutely shock you when we show it to you. Percentage of us mortgages considered seriously underwater rises.

Uh oh. UNC Chapel Hill board votes to dismantle the EI programs. Uses funds on campus police after anti Israel protests. Melinda Gates is officially resigning as coacher from Gates foundation. Then you have suddenly there aren't enough babies.

The whole world is alarmed. People are not having enough kids. It's funny. I have a story to tell about this thing here. And last but not least, discrimination may cause people to age faster and affect white people.

Most studies suggest. I got a couple other things here that I want to talk to you guys about. One of the ones that Vinnie's got. I'm sorry, Tom's got is the GME and Gamestop. What the hell happened yesterday, right.

With the way the market was reacting to it, they. I think they stopped trading four times. Some say two times, some say four times. And then at the same time, Vinnie has an article he wants to read to you guys. That has to do with Moderna and AstraZeneca did recently why?

Why not? We don't know. We think you should do your own due diligence and talk to a health specialist to see what they would recommend to you. 100%. Talk to science.

Talk to a health science. Call doctor Fauci. Call your own doctor. Call your own doctor and do your. Own to see if it's.

And then I got some stats that I pulled up on homelessness in America, on which generation has the most homeless people in America. It's kind of interesting when you think about which generation. Then Bill Maher said something about COVID that I'm gonna play for you guys that I think was prompted from a podcast that we did last week with Chris Seinfeld. Said something in a speech that I think everybody here would benefit from. Literally, I think everybody watching this year would benefit from, because we need a little bit of positivity and messages.

And I think Seinfeld's given it, and, you know, he says, I'm done. I'm 70 years old. You're just getting started. There's a part that I think we all need to listen to. Here's one of the good news before I make the announcement to you.

Number one, Candace Owens is officially on Manect. If you want to ask Candace any questions, that is her QR code, welcome her to Manect. She's actually responding back to audio, and she's willing to do the video. Surprisingly, she just doesn't want to do the calls, but she's responding back in audio and responding back in video. She's on Manect.

One of these days, when we have her on the podcast, we'll obviously, we'll be launching it with her. But this is very big news. You can now ask Candace Owens any questions on Manect. Anything that's going on currently, there's a bunch of different issues. Go to her Twitter account.

Some of you guys are big fans of her. You can officially be in direct contact with her through Manect. Having said that, let's get right into it. Rob, can you do me a favor and pull up the. The tweet about the savings?

If you can, go to the one I just tweeted to you, about $2.1 trillion on. What's going on? Can you go to the actual tweet first before we show this? Because the tweet is just go to my personal account. The tweet is so this organization that does research, they show data, which I love what they did.

Just go to the bottom, and let's read the data first. So zoom in onto that. Just go to their link. If you could just click on it. Rob.

There you go. Shocking stat of the date. This is from Kobeshi letter. $2.1 trillion of excess savings has been wiped out of the US economy since August of 2021. From March 2020 until August of 2021, $2.1 trillion in excess savings were built up after $4 trillion of stimulus was sent out.

Now watch this. Every month since then, us households have depleted their savings at a pace of $70 billion a month to a $72 billion -70 $2 billion in March of 2024. At the same time. So a lot of people would say, well, you know, they're taking this money and they're paying off their debt. What's wrong with.

We're depleting it? No, no. Us credit card debt has risen from $330 billion to record $1.1 trillion, while the US savings rates has declined from three and a half percent to 3.2%. Do you know what this means? This means a fire sale is coming.

Because when people look at that chart, by the way, look at the amount of savings we had during COVID We went from nothing in 2020. Look at the beginning of 2020, the screaming roller coaster, everybody skyrockets. And then they started giving data about the fact that we're paying off credit card debt back to. -70 $2 billion is where we are. And obviously the buying out, pay later stuff is not helping out.

But when somebody runs out of cash and savings, guess what comes next? Sale. A fire sale. And I'm going to talk about some of the other data that Tom's got a lot of commentary to give on this. But Tom, what do you think about when he said, when you shared this with me that day, I was blown away by this.

Go ahead. So we've been, I've been seeing this coming and it's been really scary. And what it means is, as COVID stopped, you have to look at the emotion of the consumer as COVID stop. We could, hey, you can come back out and play, you can travel, you can go to restaurants and things like that. And people got jobs back at restaurants.

Tom Ellsworth
Those weren't new jobs. They just went back to old jobs. People started spending and they had, they forgot how good it felt to have the credit cards paid down, have a little bit of money in the bank courtesy of the government. But to them, the emotion of the average consumer, apparently PBD was, this is free money and they spent it and they kept spending it and they kept spending it. And now we're in a situation where last year it is a fact.

And you can go look this up. This isn't my opinion. This is the fact. Go look at even regular newspapers, USA Today. You don't have to go study the Wall Street Journal.

It was saying that the american consumer last year save the economy in 2023 by spending on GDP. We bought things. We bought plane tickets, we bought tickets to Disneyland, which I never go to. We did all kinds of things like this. And we saved the economy last year because consumer spending in 2023 was crazy.

But we were spending our savings racking up credit card debt using BNPL, buy now, pay later in the fall. And now the american consumer is tapped out. Not completely tapped out, but they're pinched. So what comes next? How is the american consumer going to spend its way through the summer of 24 to help the economy?

The answer is they can't. Maybe defense spending can, but not them. Tom, this doesn't include their 401k savings. No, no, no. Purely cash checking account.

Patrick Bet-David
Saving account. That's the other part of the emotion is the stock market did pretty good last year. So most people probably talking to their HR department, hey, how's our, how's our 401k? You know, the, you know, the average investment? Oh, it was pretty good.

Tom Ellsworth
We had a 22% year. So that probably is a deception because you see your 401k. Hey, honey, my 401k was up 20% at work. Isn't that pretty cool? And then you look at your IRA.

Hey, my IRA was up 25% because it was tied to the S and P and mag seven last year. Just average people using average index funds that are, most of the time, those look pretty good. So maybe they see those and they feel pretty good, but they're spending the paycheck. And they are, as Adam used to say, save that money. And they're just living paycheck to paycheck now.

It's a fact. Adam? Well, I still say that save that money. Despite the lack of people listening, you hit a key word, the american consumer. What's the root, root of consumer consuming?

Adam Sosnick
I would argue that you should be an american saver or an american investor. I keep things simple. The rule of three, finance is like a traffic light. You're either red, yellow or green. Most Americans, whether it was during Bush, whether it was Obama, whether it's Trump, whether it's Biden, two thirds of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.

It doesn't stop. So stop focusing on what's going on in the White House. Start focusing on what's going on your house. Most Americans are in debt. They're living paycheck to paycheck.

They're trying to save that money, but they can't get out of their own way. Then when you can start saving that money, save ten grand. Amazing. Half of your, like, ten grand. How the hell am I gonna get there?

The other half are like, ten grand. I got 300 grand in the bank, but very few people are able to do that. Once you can get to green, you can become an investor. Last point. It's called personal finance for a reason.

It's called personal responsibility for a reason. It's called self reliance for a reason. Cause it's on you, bro. You know, they say 80% of the people don't care about your problems, and 20% of the people are happy you have them save that money. It's a great point there.

Patrick Bet-David
And by the way, when you think about the basics of money, right, the basic principles of money, watch what happened here. So who else is going to be affected by this? When you see savings going down? My dad. I've talked about this many times.

My dad would say, listen, a man without savings is not a man. There's a part of a man that feels like he lost his manhood. When you don't have savings, he said, always have money. Nobody knows you have. Not your wife, not your family, nobody.

When we were about to go out of business, the insurance company, I had a stack. I had a money set aside that nobody knew about. That's what saved the business. No, I had 13,000 down to the last $13,000. If I didn't have that additional money, we are out of business.

There is no valuetainment. There is no PBD podcast. I'm probably selling gym memberships right now somewhere. Okay, I believe one hell of a gym membership salesperson. Don't get me wrong, by the way, if I worked at lifetime, what is a lifetime fitness and that guy was changing in a woman's restroom, it would be a very different.

I would have saved lifetime for this $500 million. Planet, planet, planet, planet. I don't want to get it wrong. Is it a lifetime or planet, planet, planet, planet plan? Forgive me.

Lifetime. Great gym, Chicago. I've been through it. It's great. Planet screwed up because you revoked a mother's membership because she didn't want her twelve year old daughter who was shaking in a woman's restroom with a towel around her when a man came in.

You chose a man over a girl that's twelve years old and you lost a half a billion dollars. How the hell did I go on a rant that was from economy to gym memberships? But here's the point. Savings wise, watch what happens. How many people were begging to work from home?

Vincent Oshana
A lot of them. Well, when you give people cash and they pay off their debt and they're sitting at home and every company is worried about losing their employees, you can ask for work from home. But now savings is depleted. Guess what? What are you gonna say?

Patrick Bet-David
Hey, I walk out of the closet in the office. Can I just get a desk or something? What's the point? Here's the point. Bullying on both sides is not cool.

It's not bullying when employers bully. It's not bullying when employees bully. For the first time, we experience employees bullying employers during COVID in the most dark, deceptive, dirty way. I had a guy that we gave a raise to. We hired this guy at.

Let's just give a round number. This is not here. This is the insurance. This is Texas time. You remember this story?

We hired this guy and we gave him a salary. I won't even say the number, so let's just say it's $50,000. Okay? Two months later, he comes and he says, I got an offer for another company. You got a bump me up to $80,000.

Or else I'm like, does this guy joking? So, like, but we need him. We can't get anybody at this time during COVID So we went up to $70,000.02. Months later, he comes and says, I got another offer for $120,000. If you don't pay me $100,000, I'm leaving.

I said, guys, this guy's gone. He leaves the other company that he went to, he ends up not even working out over there. And he had to go to a different place. And eventually people realize, dude, you're not $120,000 a year person. You're a $55,000 year person.

And you have to go back because you have to prove results. What this is doing right now, when you see savings depleting to the numbers that it is, there's going to be a lot of desperate decisions being made. By the way, this leads me to a quick number here. We've talked about this before, but the level of delinquency on this concept here has to be talked about. Americans are raking up phantom debt that Wall street simply can't track.

This is a Bloomberg story. So, folks, listen up. Here we go. So the rise of phantom debt is through. Popular buying out pay later.

You keep hearing about BMPL platforms like Affirm Klarna Afterpay, which aren't reported to credit agencies, masks a true picture of american households financial health. Timing Quinlan of Wells Fargo warns people need to be more awake of the rise of BMPL. BMPL is lack of transparency stems from a dispute between providers and credit bureaus, with BMPL companies resisting data disclosure, arguing it could harm customers credit scores. Despite this, the market continues to expand, obscuring economists understanding of consumer spending and debt. BNPL's allure of installment payments attracts consumers, but a Harris poll survey reveals ready concerning trends, 43% are behind on their buy now, pay later payments and 28% are delinquent on other debts due to BNPL spending insanity.

Tom, thoughts on this? Well, first of all, there's a line in here that capitalist I am BNPL companies resisting data disclosure, arguing could harm consumer credit scores. It should harm their credit scores if they're already tapped out on their credit cards and BNPL wants to lend them more money. And BNPL companies, they want to make money. They want to loan the money.

Tom Ellsworth
But they're saying, well, maybe we shouldn't. We don't want to disclose the data. We want to do a soft credit review because it could harm the credit scores. Guess what the credit score is like blood pressure or temperature. It's a vital sign.

Fair. Isaac FIcO all that was a vital sign made to test one of the measures of financial health and capability for a consumer. So when BNPL companies say, oh, we don't want to do data disclosure that might harm the credit score, it should harm the credit score because the consumer's borrowing even more money when they already have an average or poor credit score because of their credit card spending in the first place. And I think what we saw here on the Harris poll, this chart, which I think is up there, everybody can see this right now. Rob, take a look at this.

How many of these, and Adam, I'm asking for your opinion here, too. How many of this is the consumer basically admitting they don't have financial education or discipline, spent more than I can afford forward, find it difficult sticking to a monthly budget, surprised by how much I owe monthly on BNPL. You couldn't take 500 for a tv, divide by five months and realize that was 100 a month. How do you figure that? Falling behind in my other lines of credit, gone into debt.

My spending is out of control. Look at this. Like three, four, five of these are people openly saying they are absolutely incapable or not educated or out of control. To me, this is, this is a huge issue. I love it.

Patrick Bet-David
I mean, you know, the fact that you're talking about this and seeing what's going on. Adam, you have some thoughts on this here. Before I come to you, I want you guys to see this number here that Rob just pulled up. Impacts of buying out pay later. Users of services reported various ways the products hurts their finances.

Number 154 percent spent way more than I can afford. Of course. Number two, worse off financially. 34% find it difficult stick into a monthly budget. Surprised by how much I owe on BMPL.

Hurt my credit score. Fallen behind on my other lines of credit. Gone into significant debt. My spending is out of control. People are going through it.

But as much as you see a report like this, he said something earlier. One can say it's not fair. It's BNPL's fault, it's Klarna's fault. It's all these companies fault. No one forced you to use it.

You chose to use it. You chose to go buy those gifts during Christmas you couldn't afford to buy. Nobody forced you to make that decision. Nobody forced me to buy a car I couldn't afford that I eventually lost. Nobody forced me to do it.

I made that decision to get an expedition with dollar 600 car payment when I was making only 30 grand a year. I made that choice. I got into that $49,000. I had to make some changes. I had to change the way I looked at money.

I had to change the relationship I had with money. Unfortunately, many keep blaming other reasons why this is taking place instead of taking full responsibility for it. And it's not easy to do, but some of us had to do it. Adam, thoughts on this? Yeah, well, this buy now, pay later.

Adam Sosnick
I'm a big alliteration acronym. BNPL. It's buy now, pay later. It actually is broke now, pour later. Oh, pobrecito Latino.

My God. But it's on you at the end of the day. So there's another term that you should be familiar with. It was actually on CNBc this weekend. I was like, okay, I'm pretty astute when it comes to personal finance.

This is a new one, and they called it money dysmorphia. I think I sent you a screenshot, Rob. Money dysmorphia. This is a new term, and it basically means that you have a distorted perception of your finances, and it's running rampant with Gen z. 41% of millennials, if you go to the other tab, 41% of millennials have this, and it says an uptick in Gen Z now.

What is money dysmorphia. It's a disconnect between your actual financial well being and what you actually perceive that you have, according to TikTok, literally influenced by TikTok feeds. Thanks, China, for all your well being. So we've seen that. We've seen the stats come out there.

Two thirds live paycheck to paycheck. 50% of Americans don't have $400 for an emergency. 25% of Americans don't have $1,000 in savings. Only 50% of Americans actually invest. So what the choice that you have to make is, do you want to be a part of the rich get richer crew or the poor get poorer crew?

I chose when I was broke as shit. Get my mind right, then you get your money right, then the rich get richer. So what's at endgame for all these problems that you guys are saying? People aren't saving, they're doing the buy now, per later. This is going to lead to something bad.

Vincent Oshana
I know he was talking about the fire sale, but overall, this is, you know, increased poverty. The dependency is going to be on the government, the economy is going to be messed up, housing is going to be messed up. This is a bubble that's going to pop. Am I right? So you're not wrong, because there's another story.

Patrick Bet-David
Matter of fact, you're the perfect way to transition into what you're talking about here. We can go to page twelve. Look at this here. Percentage of us mortgages considered seriously underwater rises. This is not good, right?

No, this is not good. So when you're seeing. Because nobody thought it was going to happen, now, everybody said, oh, this is not going to happen. This is not going to happen. This is not going to happen.

Let me read this to you. So here we go. Seriously underwater mortgages in us increased from 2.6% to 2.7% in q. One of 2024, the Kentucky expert with Kentucky experiencing a significant rise from 2% to 8.3%, followed by West Virginia up to 5.4% in Oklahoma, from 5.5 to 6.1. Louisiana.

Wyoming had the highest shares of seriously underwater mortgages at 11.3% and 8.8%, respectively, with states like Vermont at .8% Rhode Island 1.1%. There's a reason for that. In New Hampshire, 1.1% exhibit the lowest rates. The proportion of equity rich mortgages inclined to declined to 45.8%, marking a two year low, with Kentucky experiencing a substantial drop from 35.4 to 28.7, along with South Carolina going from 40 down to 40 from 42.4 in Georgia to 43.7 from 46. Tom, what's happening here with these loans?

Tom Ellsworth
Here's what's happening. So, in certain markets, prices rose really, really fast. Like Texas. Excuse me, and Florida. In other markets, the price, the houses went up more moderately.

Remember that spike we all saw right after COVID? Well, interest rates were jumping up. So in the markets where the prices didn't go up too quick, guess what happened? They people went out and bought houses. And this happened in the rural and moderate markets first.

That's why we're seeing these stats in Kentucky, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Louisiana, Wyoming. So those people went out and they got six and three quarters and 7% mortgages. Okay? Those are expensive. And now those markets went down.

And now those markets have gone down. And now those mortgages are underwater, but they're underwater at higher interest rates. Those people. Guess what? Those people may not be able to refi, because what do you need to refi, Adam?

You need an appraisal. And if you can't get the appraisal to counter the value of your mortgage, then you're going to be stuck with that 7% mortgage while the value of the home has come down. So, basically, the spike we saw after COVID, people went out and bought homes, and not a lot of them, because, remember, overall home buying was down, but those that did, now that the prices are retreating, those mortgages are underwater. And the amount of equity overall in mortgages, that's an equity rich mortgage. Oh, I only have.

My mortgage is only 50% because I have all this equity in my house, that equity is coming down. So we're seeing a moderation in prices, and people are about to get pinched, and they're not going to be able to refi their way out of expensive mortgages. So underwater mortgage means you owe more. You owe more on the mortgage than the house is actually worth. Translation on paper, your down payment is gone.

Vincent Oshana
Oh, damn. That's not good. Like, you paid, let's say you paid 500 for a house and put 100 down. Yes. Now the house is.

Tom Ellsworth
And you had a 400 mortgage. The minute the mortgage is 399, the house, that means the house is 399. The house is worth a dollar less than the mortgage. And on paper, that hundred you put down. Bye bye.

Patrick Bet-David
Yeah. Wow. No good. This is the problem I have with people that are buying houses. You think you could just blindly walk into a real estate investment like, I just became a millionaire?

Adam Sosnick
It doesn't work that. That easy. You know, there's a famous phrase, if it was easy. Everyone would do it. Doesn't work that way.

Rob, pull up that story about impacts of buy now, pay later, and look at the same thing. So here's a little fun fact for you. 100% of foreclosures are because people can't afford their mortgage. If you can't afford your rent, they just kick you out. Sorry, time to go.

You can't afford your mortgage, the. The bank takes over your loan, you gotta go. So the number one thing that Tom pointed out was, I spent more than I can afford. Right. That also works in buying a home.

Maybe you should have bought a $350,000 home, but you bought a half a million dollar home because you thought that all this. I don't want to live in this little crappy house. I want to live in a big house or whatever. Depending on whatever, they would maybe shut about a million dollar house, not a $2 million house. And then what happened.

Exactly. Exactly. And then what happens is you buy them more than you can afford. You realize, listen, I thought that I could make a $5,000 mortgage payment every month. What they didn't tell you was like, yeah, you also have taxes.

You also have insurance. You also have. Hoa hoa. Exactly. So all of a sudden, this american dream that you've been told lies within homeownership becomes an american night.

Patrick Bet-David
I want to say this, though. I want to say this, and it's very important for you to get this message, guys, because sometimes you hear a message like this, and it's kind of like, dude, I know I'm in it right now, and I feel like shit, and you're making me feel like even more like shit. And we don't want to be that. I don't want to be that. This is not our brand, but this is what I do want to tell you, a part of it for you to be thinking about.

Everybody at this table at one point had nothing going on. Okay? Vinnie, just a couple years ago, during COVID as a comedian, had nothing to do. He had no work because he's in California as a comic. Think about it.

Nothing. They did not let him do his job, which was to make people laugh. He couldn't make people laugh. Okay, Adam, few years ago, was living on the couch in Denver, Colorado. What was it?

Colorado. Whatever it was. Yeah, 20 years ago. But I was broke as hell as my poorest friend, and I had to figure it out. You had to figure it out.

And he changed his life. He changes ways, right? Maybe not all the ways, but some of the ways has been changed. Right. Over the years.

Right. Hard to break bad habits. But the point is, Tom, same with him, he had. When some of you guys don't know Tom's true story, one of these days, Tom will tell a story on what he had to overcome early on in his career, and he made the changes. That's why sometimes the best part about, you know, making the changes to get rid of arrogance.

There are not a lot of qualities more unattractive than arrogance. Maybe somebody that's entitled, maybe somebody that's a victim, maybe somebody that wants to blame everybody. But arrogance gets kicked out of you, God willing. When you hit rock bottom and you lose everything, all the fame in the world, all the accolades, you're out. Oh, my God.

You're that guy. Oh, my God. You're so. Oh, my God. Look at your car.

Oh, my God. Look at this. All of that stuff. If you buy into that, you're going to go back to where you were before. So if you're watching this right now for yourself, saying, man is there, what do I do with this?

Everything starts off with habits. What are your daily habits, what you're doing? Okay. What are you spending money on? Literally, go take your credit card and your debit card with you and your wife, sit down and go line by line on what money is being spent on, and cut them off.

Go on your iPhone. Do you know on your iPhone, you can go manage your subscriptions on your iPhone. Do you know how many of us have subscriptions that we no longer do anything with, that we haven't used for a year, two years, three years, but you're still paying $10 a month, $8 a month. It's an app you downloaded. You forgot about.

There's $9.99, 14.9, 929.99. You can literally go on your phone to manage all the subscriptions on your phone that you're paying for. Okay. It's. It's not a challenging thing to do.

One must sit down and go through all the stuff they're spending money with. And then the tough part is, I'm talking to this one guy who at one point, he was a stud in his business, what he was doing. He says, man, what do I do? I said, dude, if you got to do Uber 2 hours at night from ten or 01:00 for the next six months, you got to do it. You got a wife and kids, pat, you want me to do Uber?

Nobody puts you in this situation. You're in this situation. Yeah. You got to get out of it. You got to go Uber.

I was selling shirts on the corner of racito Nordoff when I had nothing, when I lost it all with my shirt off, because the only thing I could advertise was my chest, my biceps, and my abs. That's the only thing. I would advertise everything else, but I could legally advertise that at that time. Honey, look at that brown guy in the corner. My number one selling shirt wasn't united we stand.

That was my number two selling shirt. My number one selling shirt was osama yo mama. No, really? Yes. This is right afternoon.

I would buy it in downtown for $2, and I would sell one for 15, two for 20, and people would buy. That's how I was making my money to get out of it. So if you're going through it, you're gonna have to do certain things that maybe goes against your ego and pride, and it's gonna really mess you up. But nothing is more important than you protecting your family and delivering on your promises, and that's what you and I are responsible for doing. We chose to be husbands.

We chose to be fathers. We chose to be leaders. And a leader sometimes has to make some decisions and suck up his ego. It's not an easy thing to do for us, but we have to do it. Just want to add one thing and quick shout out to Manek, because as much as we're helping people, it also gives us the confidence to help you.

Adam Sosnick
But one of the greatest things I've learned from Pat is the concept of sequencing. Do this before you do this. Do this before you do this. Hold on. That's a Q three thing.

What are we going to do? Q one? You know, the famous you got to walk before you run, run before you sprint, sprint before you do a marathon, everything like that. And what I found out is, when I'm doing these consultations on Manect, I walk people through these six principles of wealth, and, you know, three card Monty, you've ever seen it when they move like this, this, this the rule of three. Like I said before, with this traffic light, there's red, there's yellow, there's green.

Often I times find times that people are investing when they should be paying off debt because they've been told, oh, get a 401k, but you have a credit card debt of 22%. Stop investing. Hey, you should be saving, not investing right now. Hey, now's the time to invest. They're doing the sequencing all wrong, and it's just a matter of doing the things in the practical order.

Patrick Bet-David
There you go. And, you know, a guy messaged me on the neck. He says, eight years straight, I've lost money on forex, but I'm losing less money. What do you think I should do? That's the question.

I'm sorry, are you married? Do you have kids? How much money do you make? Why do you keep doing it? Who are you learning it from?

Who's teaching you these courses? How much money are you paying for these courses? Have you set aside for your kids all this? And then he sends, I make $65,000. My wife makes $72,000.

I'm in a challenging place right now, and I'm like, why are you trading forex? I said, you have an income problem. Go do something with that. Increase your market value within your business. Go learn new skill set so you can bring more value to the company you're working with.

Do you got to do something to take. Everybody's trying to increase their net worth, but they're not trying to fix their spending and they're not fixing their income. You need to increase your income to be able to do some of these other things. Anyways, so next thing I want to show you guys is a video. And, you know, obviously we're friends with him, so it's not like we have any issues with them.

But Dave Smith, I'm a big fan of this guy. I think he's a super talent and he's a stud. He's brilliant. And they have their libertarian conference going on this weekend, I believe, by the way, they got the libertarian conference, they're. Going to choose who their presidential candidate is.

And by the way, a lot of people want this guy. A lot of people want this guy. Just don't know if he wants to run or not. Most libertarians I talked to, when I said, who do you want? 75% of the time, they say, Dave Smith for the libertarian community, they absolutely love you.

Vincent Oshana
He's a boss. I love him. He's loved by Joe, he's loved by many different people. And he had something to say about the podcast. Go ahead, Rob.

Patrick Bet-David
About, not the podcast about Chris Cuomo. Go ahead, Rob. That's when I really completely woke up to. The whole thing was when they were firing nurses, nurses who had been working at this point for a year through a pandemic, who had all, like, 100% of them had either already had COVID or figured out how to protect themselves from COVID And it was just like, oh, you're ruining people's lives again. And the people who were just the heroes, just the previous year were the ones everyone was clapping outside their window at 05:00 for.

Dave Smith
And they were all making their dumb TikTok videos, and we were all supposed to be celebrating them for doing their job. And now you're fine to just ruin their lives because they won't take this next product. And anybody, anybody being honest through that period of time. So we're talking early 2021 now. Should have been able to just see this whole thing for obviously what it was.

And so, no, don't tell me. It's like, oh, you didn't know anything then. You just, you were essentially, I guess Chris Cuomo is saying we just made a lucky guess. We happened to be right, and he happened to be wrong. Like, no, that's not what happened.

We were being honest and looking at the information around us. You were lying through your fucking teeth to protect powerful people. That's the difference. Chris Cuomo, you're saying you're a journalist, dude. Well, that's the job.

That's the job to not just mindlessly repeat government propaganda, but to actually investigate it. And all it took was a little bit of suspicion of the government propaganda to, and listen again, we're not even talking about lockdowns here where Chris Cuomo was absolutely terrible and was pretending to lock himself down while actually going out without a mask. You know, keep in mind, when Chris Cuomo got caught outside, this was when they were still telling you to wear a mask outside. Okay, but this is a full year later we're talking about now with the vaccine. This is, if you weren't, by 2021, skeptical of the government propaganda on this.

You're not a journalist. You're a propagandist. I don't share text messages or DM's or anything like that. But Chris Cuomo has reached out to me before, and we had a feisty back and forth. I'll just leave it at that.

But, yo, hey, Chris Cuomo, if you really want to go on this, like, you know, like, reinventing yourself rehabilitation tour, why not come through me? Let's sit down. Come on, Pat. Let's set it up. Let's make it happen, Pat.

Chris Cuomo can give his take and let me respond to what he has to say. Let's set up a nice debate over the COVID era policies. I'll gladly put my track record at part of the problem up against Chris Cuomo's track record at CNN. And we can discuss whether I actually like why I got everything right and he got everything wrong. Let's have a conversation about that.

I think it would be illuminating for the American. And by the way, listen, okay, so obviously, you know, they've had the conversation together. And for me, when you see something like this, you know, you, you. I like debate. I want people to talk.

Patrick Bet-David
I have a relationship with Chris, I have a relationship with Dave, and we get along with almost everybody. We get along with almost everybody. There isn't. I can't think of anybody we don't get along with. No, because you talk to everybody.

Vincent Oshana
You let people talk to everybody. And by the way, Anthony, one week. By the way, if you think if we invited Anthony Weiner back, he would come without even hesitation, I think he would come 100%. 100%. He would come back.

Patrick Bet-David
But the point is, but you're right, obviously, that was a very disrespectful. He was a jerk for sure. So guess what we're doing. What's your name again? So here's what I want to tell you.

The announcement is both Dave Smith and Chris Cuomo have agreed to a debate. Oh, yes. May 31, Friday night. Six to 09:00 p.m. Friday night.

Six to 09:00 p.m. That is sick. Six to 09:00 p.m. It's official. It'll be at our comedy club that we have 5990 live.

And this is going to be what the people want. You know, Chris represents one side, and obviously he's gone through certain experiences that he's had. He's openly talking about potentially long COVID, what that means, all the different things. And if he had to do it again, he wouldn't have taken a vaccine in 2026. If COVID came back out and Dave has a different position and they get to sit down and hash it out and talk to each other.

What's interesting is they both like talking to RFK. They both have had. Cuomo has RFK on, I don't know, every week almost, it seems like. Right. So there's an affinity.

But I think this is going to be a conversation that'll be going insane on the net around the world. And by the way, something tells me I wouldn't be surprised between now and then, the people from the establishment who don't want to see this conversation take place, they're going to do everything in their power to prevent this from taking place. Fauci being one of them, whoever it is. Yeah. They're going to be watching.

Within seconds of making this announcement, I guarantee messages are being sent saying, are you out of your flipping mind? Don't do it. Are you out of your flipping in mind. But Chris said, I'm in. Let's do it.

Let's roll. Let's talk about it. Great. You got to respect the fact, well, 100%, you got to respect the fact that somebody says yes. So, by the way, for those of you guys who are on our text community, you get notices before everybody else does.

You know who you are. For those of you guys that haven't yet registered for this, just go to 5990 live, buy ticket, vip, sell out ASAP. And then it'll be about 185 to 190 tickets. VIP's will have cigars with us afterwards. But looking forward to, forward to this.

Go ahead, Adam. I mean, Chris, you got to give Chris Cuomo some credit. And now there's some Cuomo haters out there. But he's not backing down. He's showing up.

Adam Sosnick
He's saying, oh, you have a problem with what I've said or what I've done? Well, I'm going to show up and defend my position or at least allow me to chance to state my case or evolve my position. Respect to him. Respect for him from sitting down with Candace. Respect for him from being challenged by Dave Smith and showing up.

This is what a man does. He shows up. Even if you disagree with him. Gotta give him credit. And I've sat down with Dave multiple times.

I hosted a debate, Israel versus Gaza. He defended Gaza against Laura Loomer. Super smart guy. We know how we feel about libertarians. Great product, horrible marketing.

But he's actually a great marketer. Well, that's so that's just, that's one of those pay per view fights that you're not gonna, like, try to download illegally. You're like, I'm gonna watch this. I'm gonna be there. No, you come to the event.

59. Well, I'm just saying people in general. For people who won't, by the way, this is a discussion like, this is what my interest is. This is what my interest is. And this is what I said on the video on when I responded to Cuomo and all the stuff that's been said, gina carana, cuomo, all this stuff.

Patrick Bet-David
My biggest challenge is the following. Nobody is talking about China. China is quietly leaving the club after having killed all these other people and nobody knows. And they just got away. Like Kaiser sose.

Vincent Oshana
Yep. Okay. G is the modern day Kaiser Sose. He came in. Now I'm telling you, he's the modern day Kaiser Sose from the usual suspects.

Patrick Bet-David
Right. We have a better show called the unusual suspect. Shout out to Vinny and the crew, rob and everybody else. But Kaiser Sose came in. Kobachi.

You know, it's this. It's that. It's this, like, oh, my God, who is it? And it's Chaz pal Monterrey, right? And then Kevin Spacey walks out.

That's g. He's just walked out and says, I cannot believe I killed millions of people. I divided America. I destroyed so many people's lives. I destroyed so many kids lives in America.

And I fed them when they stayed home with all these TikTok videos. I increased the transgender in America with their kids. Look at these morons falling for our trap. And we will never be held accountable for it ever, ever again. That's the part that I'm interested in.

I want that. And I'm one that I haven't forgotten about what they did to the greatest country in the world, America. And many innocent lives that fell for them. And meanwhile, we realized during COVID 80, 85% of the prescription that we, the boomers, the american people, our parents, your parents use comes from China. So do you know, if these guys really want to hold hostage to us, what could happen?

Do you realize how apple slowly left China to go to India? What do you think they're doing? You think Apple and Tim Cook fully trust China? You think these guys are sitting there saying, oh, my God, let's increase the amount of phones we're selling in China now. But there's been zero accountability.

Ray Dalio and I did a podcast together. How many years ago was it with Ray Dalio? That was probably in 20, 1819, 2018. When we had the conversation, you know, there was a ten minute conversation with Ray Dalio, you know, was the most heated moment with the conversation we had around China. They have to be held accountable.

I don't like what took place. I don't like the fact that we used to have different kinds of debates. Now we have divisive debates. People actually hate each other. Like, people actually went through a moment of that.

And that's not who we are. That's not what we're all about. But it was you. So I want. I want this to simply be more of a discussion.

I applaud both of these men for agreeing to do this. Both of them could have said, no, they don't have to do this. There is no, like, you better do this, or else both of them chose. They chose to do this. I respect it.

It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be respectful. I like both of these guys. I'm looking forward to seeing what's gonna. Happen with this discussion real quick, the China thing.

Adam Sosnick
Xi. What a great quote. What a great phrase from unusual suspects. Do you remember what he said about Kaiser Soze? The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist.

And just like that, he's gone. The greatest. The greatest trick Xi and China pulled off is that COVID came in and they started it. And it wasn't damp and it disappeared. It was in a wet market.

It wasn't us. And boom, good luck, everybody. And the real question is, who were they in cahoots with here to have it happen? And everybody kissed their ass. That's even a deeper question because the one guy that held them accountable for trade and said, china's going to do this and China's going to do that.

Vincent Oshana
All of a sudden, what happened on election year, that virus comes out of a lab that we're testing the virus to gain a function research. And the main guy behind the whole thing, Doctor Anthony Fauci, is immune. He's going in front of Congress again, I believe, at the end of this month. And guess, FYI, he has secret service protection protecting him as if he is in like a president, ex president, which I think is ridiculous. He has to be protected.

Cause he knows. He knows what he's done. Well, I can't wait for PPD. And I'm really, really happy that this is happening. Because when you have got controversy and division, the way out starts with a conversation and valuetainment live.

Tom Ellsworth
We got another conversation starting here. So come check it out. Because understanding is what comes out of a conversation. And you can reach new levels of understanding even when people are on two sides and with a lot of division. But you got to start with a conversation, not with censorship.

And that's what we're putting on stage. I love it. There you go. I'm excited about it. Friday night lights, baby.

Patrick Bet-David
Friday night lights. Let's go. And yeah, who knows? Maybe we'll even have a cigar while we're doing this. I don't know.

Maybe we got to bring the humidors over there. I don't know what we got to be. I know Vinnie loves cigars, but it's a whole different story. Let's make it special. Let's get some high end food trucks.

Tom Ellsworth
Let's get a lot of stuff going here. Let's make it a special night, man. We will definitely do that, Tom. And I mean, I don't know if we're going to go as special as you wanted to go to. I'm not willing to commit to that kind of stuff to bring CBD trucks?

Patrick Bet-David
No, Tom, but I think we'll bring some high end food. I'm not committed to CBD because that'd be a different kind of a podcast. It helps people kind of loosen up their mind to listen to the conversation. Yeah, but we will not have. You see, I knew Tom was going there already, but people only knew about Tom.

Tom Ellsworth
The Oreo and chocolate milk truck. Yep. Okay, so let's go. Let's go to another story here. Tom, tell us what, what the hell happened with GameStop with, you know, GME stock yesterday?

Patrick Bet-David
Give us an update on what happened yesterday. So roaring Kitty, we all saw the movie. We all know the history of, you know, Wall street bets and roaring Kitty. Who was this, this icon of the meme stock, specifically meme stocks. When you see that in the headlines, they're talking principally about AMC and first and foremost the king of the memes, GameStop, GME.

Tom Ellsworth
And what happened? Roaring kitty posted something yesterday, PBD, and it was a little comic of a drawing of showing a kid playing a game and with a red arrow leaning forward. What this symbol is. You see this, Adam? Yep.

What this symbol is means the game just got serious. So you start in the layback position in your chair and now the game is getting intense, whether you're playing Madden football or FIFA, whatever it is, you call of duty. Call of Duty. Boom. And when you show the lean forward, it means this just got serious.

So roaring Kitty is sending a message to his minions. This just got serious. And I'm back. And they started trading and GME took off. They had to stop it four times yesterday because the volume and the purchasing, you know, were going up so fast and they were trying to keep.

The markets had to stop because it's like the car was going too fast. I couldn't keep up with the trade volume and so they had to do that. And then last night it closed out at, I believe, 32, 33. And then the overnight trading, it was as high as 70. And where did this open?

We had it right now because the market opened at 930. Right. And here we are at 55. So we're up 25 over yesterday already right here. So basically it's on again.

And GameStop is being driven by demand volume right now. Roaring Kitty is back. The game got serious. He and everybody chased him. And the volume is driving the price up because there's only so many shares on the market.

That's the supply. Roaring Kitty lights the fuse again. Here comes the demand. Demand higher than supply prices go up. There you have it.

Adam Sosnick
If you didn't see the movie, it came out well. The story actually happened. Early 2021, roaring Kitty. His real name is Keith Gill. I want to say in the movie, his brother was played by Pete Davidson.

There he is, Keith Gill. Pete Davidson paid his brother. I actually interviewed in 2021, the founder of Wall Street Bets, where this all sort of happened on was Jamie Rogozinski. He was the founder. He's no longer running Wall street bets.

But this all kind of happened. And we learned a lot of new phrases. We learned about what a short sale is. We learn what these hedge funds do. We learned about what Robinhood stood for.

Vlad Tenev, with his long black hair and what he kind of stood up. Robinhood is now sort of, which was a leading candidate for millennial. And gen z investing is now just completely, almost irrelevant at this point. GameStop became a meme stock, a trending stock to buy. This guy became a cult hero.

Rowing kitty. But we also saw that these hedge fund guys, the Ken griffins of the world, the gabe plotkins of the world, these guys. And seth. Seth, not seth. Dylan.

That's seth rogen. Was seth dickens. Seth Rogen played him in the movie lost millions and millions and millions of dollars. Cause correct me if I'm wrong, Pat. When you do a short sale, the losses can be infinite.

Patrick Bet-David
Infinite. Right. You just. There's no stop as the stock goes up and up and up, and you short sell it. As the stock rises, you lose and you lose and you lose, and it gets seriously ugly.

Adam Sosnick
We saw seth rogen. Ackman got caught up in this. If I was Ackman in it, too. Yeah, Ackman get caught. Ackman's the one that lost a lot.

Patrick Bet-David
There was somebody that lost a few billion dollars that had to call another. And also Gabe plotkin, they called Ken. To bail him out. Cause Ken had the real money. Yeah, exactly.

Tom Ellsworth
And then we saw that when the clock runs out on your short, like a 90 day short, that day, you're screwed. And we saw guys like Dave Portnoy just rail on Vlad Tenev about Robin Hood. Now you start. Andrew Tate did a tweet the other day about how he's doubling down on GameStop. So it's interesting.

Adam Sosnick
At the end of the day, this is not how you should be investing. This is sort of gambling. It's like going to the casino. But it's. It's fodder, it's news.

It's headlines. And it's evidently not going away. He's leaning in on it. Vinny, final thoughts on this. What's a stock?

Vincent Oshana
So you mean to tell me. Well, I concur with everything that you guys have been saying. So you mean to tell me just a guy just can randomly put a meme of any stock? Like, let's say he didn't pick gamestock. Let's say he picked whatever and just puts a meme and says, hey, guys, go buy it.

Everybody's gonna go buy it, and it's gonna go up.

Tom Ellsworth
And roaring Kitty was that guy, but he's an influencer. People are willing to follow. And, yes, a guy can do that. And if enough of a crowd follows, this is what happened. So what I'm saying is, let's just say that you have a stock right now.

Vincent Oshana
What's the stop a company from going up to this Warren Kitty guy and go, hey, in a couple months, do us a favor. Here's $10 million. Go put a meme of a guy leaning forward in something, whatever, to make our stock go up. Who's going to stop them? Bro, how many views this thing got?

25, 20? Almost 24. 25 million, 4 million. Do you feel me, pallet? Let's just say you have a company that does, you know, whatever these signs.

If Rory and Kitty does another meme and says, guys, buy this, what is that? Well, I'll tell you, the number one thing that anyone can have is their reputation. Yeah. This guy has earned the right to say, listen to me, because he has two things that are irreplaceable, authenticity and credibility. They trust him.

Adam Sosnick
So good luck getting a Sam Bakeman freed to advocate for your new company or the Fyre festival guy. This guy's earned the right to say, listen, guys, I know what I'm doing. Follow me. I got your back. Let's roll.

Vincent Oshana
Why can't Nancy Pelosi take a picture? Why can't Nancy Pelosi start posting memes so we can make $150 million? Well, there actually is a Nancy Pelosi tracker. Adam, isn't there a Nancy Pelosi? Yeah, of course.

Stock tracker. Hey, Nancy, if you're listening, hook a brother up again. Reputation, credibility, and the authenticity. And by the way, Sambek is now in prison, where he's known as Samantha, so. Samantha Beckman.

Adam Sosnick
I was actually good, Tom. Good. Okay, so there you have it. So the GameStop folks, the one thing about them is, man, I mean, how do you not learn your lesson that these guys are around and they can't stand you, and they want to do whatever they can to hurt you. Very simple.

Patrick Bet-David
So these rebels with a cause are not going away. Okay, so let's listen to what happened in the. As Donald Trump allegedly talks hush money. Rob, if you have the video clip, if you can play that, of what just happened here, go for it. So we got served from the New York Times.

Vincent Oshana
I told you this regarding to unseal the divorce papers with Ivana. We're fighting it. Cassowitz is going to never be able. To get that never, never cast, which. Doesn'T ever be able.

Adam Sosnick
They don't have Michael Cohen secretly recording his client, what, a potential president, for. About two, three weeks now. Even after that, it's not going to ever be open. So you're a lawyer to your client. You're recording your client.

Vincent Oshana
So that goes to show you how much of a piece, piece of trash Michael Cohen has been and still is to this day. How does he decide not to go to jail?

Patrick Bet-David
I want to hear this. I can't hear you. See, from on now. Okay, go for it for context. The first two minutes of this clip is Donald Trump on a private phone call.

Rob Garguilo
So Michael Cohen's in the room recording his client on a private phone call, and that becomes court record, because then he also talks about the hush money in this, but it's still wrong. Oh, yeah, absolutely. He's taping his client on private phone calls with other. So is that this barbell? That has to be a.

Vincent Oshana
You could get. He went to jail. Yeah, but the hell with him. He should have been disbarred. Well, God, I think he's practicing law.

Patrick Bet-David
Yes. And it's all for about two, three weeks now. You have to do is delay it for even after that. It's not going to ever be opened. There's no.

Vincent Oshana
There's no purpose for it. Told you about Charleston. I need to open up a company. For the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend David. So that I'm going to do that right away.

I've actually come up to me and I've spoken to Alan Weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with. So what are we going to pay? Funding? Yes. And it's all the stuff.

All the stuff. Because, you know, you never know where that company. Never know where he's gonna be. Correct. So I'm.

I'm all over that. And I spoke to Alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be. Listen, what finance we'll have to pay you. So I got. No, no.

How are you? Wow. Thoughts on this? Well, like, just this, first of all, he is a scumbag. This is my opinion.

Michael Cohen is a scumbag. That they're using him to try to get Trump on something. Do you understand what this is like? That's like going to your psychiatrist, Tom, and you're revealing everything and he's recording everything that you're saying for one day to be able to use it again like that, that is the most immoral, disgusting, like just shows who his character is. You said he's a convicted.

How many times? Like. Cause he went to jail. He went to jail. I don't know why in the Congress.

Tom Ellsworth
But he is, it is accurate to say he's a convicted felony. And it is. And there are reports in the New York tabs and I haven't seen, no one's published the contract or published the proposal. But supposedly right now he is out there shopping like a reality show and he's using all this material, supposedly as a package to get a tv show and to make money, which is legal to do. If he sells it while he's in prison, it's legal to sell his biography.

It's legal to sell this. But he's trying to make a buck off of this. If his reports are true that he's out there trying to sell it, which is not really surprising and kind of in line with his character, but it just shows you the level of the guy he is. Yeah. And I can't believe they let you play that.

Vincent Oshana
And like a private recorded message. Here it is. Who is this? What Trump? Yahoo.

Adam Sosnick
Entertainment. Yahoo. Entertainment is reporting it. Fixer Michael Cohen is shopping a reality show, Allah the Apprentice, you know, while he's testifying against the former president as a convicted felon. And you know, that beacon of humanity and a citizen example.

This is, and you know the name of the show. It's called the fixer. So he's leaning into his role of being this dubious, shady bad guy that will his client. And does he have kids? Yes, he's married with kids.

Patrick Bet-David
He's still married. Yeah. I remember him giving an interview years ago about my family, my kids, my wife. I don't know if they're still together. They should be proud, hold their head.

Adam Sosnick
But it just, you know, everyone thinks that it's all about Stormy Daniels and the sex and the allegations. And you saw that. Even Bill Maher basically fact check her. He interviewed her in 2018. And she's like, listen, it was completely consensual.

There was no issues. And now she's, I don't know why I did it. I felt weird. Exactly. And then he basically rolled the tape and he's like, well, you said this, you lied.

And now she's basically saying, he's bigger than me, he's stronger than me. He locked the door using all the buzzwords from the hash metoo movement. I don't know if you can play this clip, but it's more than just stormy. There's a, there's a cast of characters here. There is also McDougal.

What's her name? Kathy McDougal. Karen. Karen McDougal, actually. Gorgeous girl.

Patrick Bet-David
She was a playmate. She was a playmate of the year. You look here, breaking news, guys. Allegedly, Donald Trump cheated on Melania. Allegedly, stormy.

Adam Sosnick
Karen McDougal, you know, my argument would be like, she kind of knew she was marrying when she married billionaire Donald Trump, who also owned the Miss USA World pageants and everything like that. But there's also this guy, David Pecker, who's the CEO of, I think it's called american media. They own tabloids like the National Enquirer. And what's famous about him is these, does these catch and kill stories where it's like, we got this story about, story about stormy, we got this story about McDougal. It's going to cost you x amount of money to make the story go away.

And then the other guy is Allen Weisselberg, who was the CFO of Trump Enterprises, and they would basically cut checks and do these things. Here's the thing. At the end of the day, there's nothing really illegal about this. You might say that it's shady. You might say that it's immoral.

But paying off people hush money, I don't think that's illegal. We're about to find out. Like, what did Vivek say yesterday? That if you reverse engineer the story and if you do it the other way around, then they basically proves that there's nothing wrong with that. So if you actually reported the money that you spent on the hush money as a campaign contribution, like, they're going to come after you either way.

So we're going to see what happens here. We know that Eric Adams is ready to lock up Trump. It's all, I think, a lot of smoke and mirrors here. But the interesting thing about Melania. Cause everyone's like, oh, Melania should leave him.

Oh, my God. You know, she even came out and said that she deemed his lewd comments locker room talk. You know what's funny about Melania? You know, there's the famous song stand by your man. She's still with him.

Vincent Oshana
Good. Now she. They got married in 2005. They're about to have their 20 year anniversary. She's still with him, and he's running again in 2024.

Adam Sosnick
She's still with him. They have one child, Barron Trump. You've spent a lot of time with Barron. Funny, quirky, good dude. But here's what's interesting.

You know how long he was married to Ivana Trump for? 1977 to 19, 9013 years. She's the mother of Donald Trump junior, Eric Trump, and, you know, allegedly the favorite child, Ivanka. You know how long he was married to his second wife, Marla Maples? Only six years, 1993 to 1999.

They had the daughter Tiffany, so as much as Melania. Oh, my God. I can't stand him. Oh, my God. Are they sleeping in separate house?

All the stories. They're about to have their 20 year anniversary, and she's sticking with Trump. Gotta respect it, by the way, for. For people who have been married and are married, marriage is very hard to, especially then being married to a figure like him, with the reputation like him and the personality like him. Melania didn't marry someone.

Patrick Bet-David
She didn't know who he was. So it's not like, oh, I'm marrying a saint, and, no, no, she knew who she was marrying. Yeah. He had a reputation of being a guy who loved women in New York and all over the place. And so sometimes when you marry somebody like that, that comes with the territory.

Tom, were you trying to say something? Yeah. The phrase hush money is a sensationalist headline term. What it is, is an NDA and a settlement and a release. And it happens every day when you have a small business and somebody is upset and they have a fight, and you want to.

You. You have to say, go buy to an employee, and you say, I'll tell you what. We sign a mutual release, I'll give you one month with medical, and you go away. That's a settlement, an NDA and a release. So technically, that's hush money.

Tom Ellsworth
But you don't talk about us, you don't talk about you, because it's all for the best. Employee goes off to get another job, company goes and continues. Sometimes companies have situations with an executive, you know, behaving badly. The settlements CB's did on Les Moonves, you could call them hush money. It happens all the time.

And they are taking one instance of something that is, on a scale of one to ten, about a one or a two on this scale, and it's being blown up because it's a political hit. This happens a lot. And I think we need to get over it in terms of the sensationalized part of it and America look at it for what it is. This is a political hit and these things happen all the time. Rob, do you have the clip of when he comes out and starts talking about the polls?

Patrick Bet-David
Do you have the clip when he comes out? He literally comes out and starts talking about the polls. I'll read it to you. Trump leads in five key states as young and nonwhite voters express discontent with Biden. Okay, you'll find a clip.

He's just coming out. It's literally coming out the courthouse. So recent poll, this recent poll by New York Times, Sienna College and Philadelphia Inquirer revealed that Donald J. Trump leads President Biden in five critical battleground states. Ready?

Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia and Pennsylvania. Among registered voters, Trump's lead underscores a significant shift in demographics, with him winning over more than 20% of black voters and essentially tying Biden among 18 to 29 year olds and hispanic voters, despite them largely favoring Biden in 2020. While Biden maintains lead among registered voters in Wisconsin, the race is tighter among likely voters, indicating a challenge and path to re election for Biden. Initially, dissatisfaction with the economy and the cost of living remains high, with over 50% of voters considering the economy poor despite recent stock market gains and cooling inflation. The polls are highlighted as a desire for change among voters, with nearly 70% expressing a need for more changes in the political and economic system.

Tom? Well, you know what? The Democrats crowed when they said we really didn't then, and they did. You can find the headlines of it where certain Democrat strategist says all we have to be is not Trump. Remember that.

Tom Ellsworth
Remember that run, Vinny. Oh. All we have to do in this election is be not Trump. Isn't it freaking interesting that now a percent of voters that had voted for Biden, that are liberal, now leaning center, that now they're voting for not Biden? Yeah, the smart voters are looking at who's best for the economy, who's going to be best at the border, who's going to be best on defense, who's going to be best on draining the swamp.

And you don't think that Trump's got a different cabinet coming? Think he's got different programs coming than you're crazy. And guess what's happening? People are seeing it. They're seeing through the roos.

And now the cross tabs on all these polls. What the crosstabs is, is exactly what Pat just read when you read into the polls and you say, okay, okay, big poll, you know, 54% this, 48% this. Okay, what's in the poll? Let's take it in. The crosstab is who is in the poll and what are they saying?

And guess what we're discovering, these young people, people of color, are saying, you know what, I don't like what I bought. I want to return it. You know, I bought Biden. You know what, I dont like that. And you know what?

Now I have a way to compare. And for the first time, and Vivek said it for the first time since Grover Cleveland, if you dont know who Grover Cleveland was, he was a guy that was president once and theres a gap in between his two presidencies are able to say, I had the choice, Trump versus Biden, and I could compare him and I took Biden. Now ive got a choice, Trump versus Biden again. I can compare him again, the same two. And now its time to say, do you like what youre bought?

No. And inside these polls, people are saying, you know what, I don't like it. And now I'm going to buy something else. It's almost like that. Buy now, pay later.

Vincent Oshana
Tom, they voted now and now they're. Paying well under Biden was buy now, poor later with what he did to the economy. So good.

Tom Ellsworth
Now, pain later. Watch this year. This is, he's coming out of the court and watch this. Go ahead and play. This kept me here for three and a half, four weeks instead of campaigning.

Patrick Bet-David
We still have the best poll numbers just came out in the New York Times as we discussed before. Mark, are they doing great? They've kept me here for, he's following, he's following in. The audience in a marketplace is realizing, you know, I'm about case studies. I love case studies.

One of the things when you go get an MBA, I went to a program for a couple weeks. We did like 2030 case studies. Apparently when you get an MBA, you do two 3400 case studies of different businesses. Imagine the case study they're going to do of the 20 2016 separate case study. 2020 separate case study.

And by the way, these are three separate case studies. Let me explain it to you. 2016 guy who's a non politician, billionaire TV Guy comes and beats the person that everybody thought was going to be the first female president of all time, which is who? Hillary Clinton. What a case study.

2020 COVID Biden record breaking 81 million votes. Whatever case study, one guy's going out 50, 60, 80,000 people during COVID are showing up. BLM protests. The other one's showing up. 22 people are showing up.

But the guy with 22 people showing up wins 2024. They're going through. This guy is going to have three. The top three. You know how you look at UFC and the biggest pay per view tickets ever sold?

Four. It's what, three out of five? Or four out of five is who? Conor mcGregor. Conor, of course.

And then you go look at boxing. Four out of four. Biggest pay per views ever sold. You know who it is? Four out of four.

It's all Mayweather. It's not Tyson money. It's not Holyfield. It's not. It's Mayweather.

Four for four. The top three case studies for presidential election of all time. It's all going to be Trump. And it's going to be written about, criticized, talked about, documentaries, movie shows for decades. I'm telling you, Vinny, I'm gonna call you Vinny.

Move at it.

Trump. We're gonna be 84 years old. Oh, my. Sitting at the movie. The movie.

Vincent Oshana
And it's in. And you translate that for us? Well, just. We're gonna be like, dude, can you believe it? They're making another movie about Trump.

Let's go. I'm like, oh, my back hurts. But. But he makes a great point. It's like.

But the tactics of the left, the taxes are left. Every single thing has backfired. And they've had this four years to basically show the world, hey, guys, to hell with Trump. He was going to destroy everything. Look at what we've done.

And then now this case study that you're talking about for four years, zero, absolutely nothing. They've bankrupt us. They give him money all over the world. We have no security. Economy is shit, houses.

People are struggling. And I just hope. I just hope they let this be a fair and free election, because they. To me, they seem way too calm. Because when I see Adam, when I see the polls, and I see I'm not a big poll guy, strippers or whatever, when you see 48%, it's neck and neck.

What the hell are this 48%? What are you. Are you blind? Are you stupid? I don't understand.

I don't. How is it a neck and neck race unless you're the top, top 1% and you're chilling, which. That doesn't make up the. The 48%? What are you talking about?

Are you that blindly loyal to a shitty party that doesn't give a damn about you, doesn't give a damn about the country? I just don't understand not all of them are. That's what Pat read in those numbers. Not all of them are. Some of them are getting smart and you should give them credit, Vinnie.

Tom Ellsworth
They're coming across, they're coming across slowly, unlike the border where they come across fast. But that's probably one of the issues of the election. But there are people coming across back to the center and they're saying they don't like it. So your question is correct. 100% correct.

But give credit to the voters that are coming, coming across and tell them to bring their friends. Well, this is the beauty of America. And the beauty of democracy is it allows you to be bipolar and allows you to have buyers remorse. I know Vinnie still can't comprehend that elections are close in America. It's crazy to me, but you'll figure it out.

Adam Sosnick
But it's a race to the bottom. Trump's at 41, Biden's at 40. Breaking news, y'all. It's gonna go into October November, and there'll be some sort of October November surprise. But the swing states will tell them all there's 100,000 people in America that decide elections.

They all live in Detroit, in Philly, in Madison, Wisconsin, in Nevada, in Georgia, in Macon county. Like, that's who runs America. We all know that certain people are going to vote right and certain people are going to vote left. It's all about convincing the people that shift from Bush to Obama to Trump to Biden to go back to Trump, to come back here. But that's the beauty of America.

Would you rather be in Russia, in China, in Iran, or in Gaza, where they literally don't hold elections or they're sham elections? It allows you to have buyer's remorse. And we all know that the single most important issue for the Democrats are abortion and the threat to democracy. And on the right, it's basically the border safety, security and the economy. But the odds are in Trump's favor.

He's still slightly ahead of Biden. Two weeks ago, it was. I think if you bet $100 on Biden, you'd win $125. That's a five to four odds. Now it's eleven to ten.

So, meaning if you bet $100 on Biden, you win 110. Trump is even money. But Trump is like you saw ice cube just come out and say something. Trump's like an ice pick. He's picking away at certain voters.

He's picking away at blacks, at Latinos, at independence. He's picking away chip, chip, chip. And the way that politics works, it's a coalition by addition. And the Democrats have always been a big tent party. Everyone's coming in.

But it looks like based on what Biden's doing, there's going to be a rain out and people are leaving the tent. But I'm shocked that you're shocked that I think it's a close race. And I guess I understand close races. But in the history of the United States presidential elections, has anything been this big of a chill when you. Here we go.

Vincent Oshana
No, I'm being that serious. Has it ever been, Adam? Has it ever been? It all depends on who you ask. If you're living in a bubble and you're only speaking with a certain elk of people, then you're immune to the fact that other people have concerns.

Adam Sosnick
Here's the reality. Go ahead. I know you're not a big poll guy. Yeah. Just look at the polls then.

And then you can become a pollster. Same polls with Hillary. You mean those same pollsters? Because I'm asking you. You still haven't answered my question.

Vincent Oshana
In the history of the United States of America, has it ever been this big of a shit show? Meaning from 2016 to right now, all the shit surrounding what they've done to him, all the cheating, election interfering, the fraud, the jail, the trying to. It's. Well, no, no, no. It's never been like this.

And for half the country to be like, yeah, to hell with that guy. I can think of a few times that it kind of got uglier than this. I don't know. In the 1860s, there was that little war between the north and the south. It got pretty ugly then, Vinny, I'm talking about.

Adam Sosnick
But then in the. I'm over here. In the 1960s, exactly when Tom was there. When Tom was growing up, Tom was bold. Sixties.

It was ridiculous. Him and Lincoln. Where was Tom when Lincoln got assassinated? I did not. I can say the dress.

I was in the restaurant. We don't need to raise our voices. Tom, give me your thoughts. Respond to Vinnie. So what Vinnie is talking about, he says, hey, you know, I'm confused.

Tom Ellsworth
And it's kind of what I was saying to you a minute ago. You say, I can't believe it's this close. Well, it is this close. It is. But when you look at the.

Look at the states that are outside of this, it's not that close. And you look at the swing states, it's increasingly not that close. Vinny, what it takes for it to be that close is large, entrenched masses of liberal humanity in California and New York. That's a national poll. And by the way, have you noticed how few.

And I'll tell you, Vinny, you know, the electoral college, we add up all the states, we elect a president, right? Yes. And then other people say, well, screw the electoral college. It should be the popular vote. Let's just do the whole thing.

Have you noticed how few liberals are talking about the electoral college over the last 60 days? Try to find the stories. There's only a few of them. Very few of them. You know why?

Because they don't want it either way. Because they're staring into the headlights of a loss as long as they want. To get rid of the electron. Democrats win the popular vote every single time, but they lose the electoral college. Well, not every single time.

It's happened recently. Last time, the Republican won the popular vote, but it's. Find that out. Yeah, well, Tom. Tom is just odd to me.

Vincent Oshana
And we keep talking about the case study of Donald Trump and the case study of Biden for anybody. I don't give a shit about the loyalty of the party for anybody to go Joe Biden. You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. You just hate Trump, so you're gonna vote for Biden because nothing. If you could tell me one positive thing that's happening in this country, I'll shut my mouth.

One positive thing. Nothing is going right. So it just, it's just odd to me. It boggles my mind that people are still, like, I don't. Donald Trump.

It's a case study. It's. You already know who's, who's better. By far, it's not even a close by comparison. So it just boggles.

It just drives me nuts, Tom. That's it. That it's ever going to be that close. For some people, Vinny, they're just. And you're right, but for some people, they're just entrenched.

Tom Ellsworth
And logic takes a holiday until they feel the pain personally. And we're seeing people making videos. We're seeing amazing videos coming out of people that you wouldn't be, think would be speaking this way, that are giving chapter and verse of what they're personally experiencing. You're right. You know what?

That's why people are listening to this podcast. That's why so many people are listening, because we're opening up to the center or putting things on the table that they haven't seen before. And, Vinny, I'm actually. I'm with you like, I'm generally with you. I know you.

Adam Sosnick
I understand your frustration. I'm happy to be here for the intellectual intervention of Vinnie with politics and polling. But this is the reality of America. Most people focus on personality, not policy. So when they see Trump, oh, orange man bad, it's a, it's a gut feeling.

They can't get over it. Yep. Trump derangement syndrome, it's real. Is it real or fake? It's 100 real.

Vincent Oshana
And there's lots of people. So I know that you're gonna be like, I can't believe, I can't believe. Start believing. That's the reality that we're living. No, I believe and I feel bad for them.

Patrick Bet-David
Tom, what's this? Take a look at this. Vinnie. Yeah. What happened in Georgia?

Tom Ellsworth
They had a case in the middle. What you don't realize happened is how pissed off Georgia, outside of Fulton county is. Vinnie, go look at that poll in Georgia. It's 49% now towards Trump. To what?

Vincent Oshana
To Donald Trump? To, who's the other guy? 39 to 39 to Biden. Look at that spread. Yeah, that's because they ran that case and it was in the Atlanta Journal constitution.

Tom Ellsworth
It was in the face of all those people in Georgia, and they got pissed off. You're seeing that. Guess what? That's. They didn't like that.

And now they see the spread is happening. And now what's constant. Look at Nevada. Nevada. I don't remember the last time going back to Reagan that Nevada was actually won by, by a Republican.

You look at the last. Because there's massive unions that are in Las Vegas and Harry Reid used to control all that. Well, now take a look. Look at what's happening in Nevada and then in Michigan. Look at the spread.

Look how close it was under Hillary. Look at Arizona. Who cares about the border? A lot of people in Arizona. Look at Pennsylvania.

Pennsylvania is the one they fear. Because if Biden must win, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and one other, and the one other. Pick one that you think you're going to go after. They don't even put North Carolina on this list anymore. You know why?

Adam Sosnick
Because the pollsters are looking at it. Saying to don't even think about it. Don't even think about activating. And Biden won North Carolina. It just goes to show these are the most important people in America.

Tom Ellsworth
It used to be seven. Now it's. And these are the states that you're gonna see in the final month of the election, that they're gonna be circling the wagons going to each and every one of these states. We saw that Hillary made the mistake of going to the southwest and Nevada and to Arizona. When she should have been in Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

Adam Sosnick
And let's see if Biden makes that same sense. I believe Pennsylvania will determine the election because I believe that North Carolina, Georgia and Arizona are a done deal unless something really weird happens. And it also has the most electoral votes out of any of these states. Well, yeah. And by the way, if you were to look at the map, I should do something on polling and kind of break all this down.

Tom Ellsworth
Cause right now. Oh, Tom, right now, Trump's within like eight electoral votes and they all know it. And Pennsylvania puts it over, whereas Biden needs to get the three. He needs Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and one other. And he doesn't have it.

Adam Sosnick
So we'll see. This is the part where Trump is getting out there and talking about the fact that he said he's in Jersey, he's giving a speech. He said in Jersey. He said, I think I wouldn't be surprised if we win 50 states. Now, he's a salesman, of course.

Patrick Bet-David
So he's selling and he's selling all day long. Winning 50 states means you're winning California. You know what it is to win California, Rob, is this the one or. No, this is where it's about flipping New Jersey. Yeah.

Can you play this? It's actually hardest to flip Hawaii, by the way. Oh, really? As you can see, today we're expanding. The electoral map because we are going.

Vincent Oshana
To officially play in the state of New Jersey. We're going to win the state of New Jersey. This guy's, wow, 100,000 people. But I'm telling you, this is going to be the greatest, one of the greatest case studies ever. Three of them.

Patrick Bet-David
I don't think people fully realize what we're in right now because we're in it when you're in it. I used to tell my guys all the time, I'm like, guys, we're trying to build the insurance company and we were in a very, very hard, tough season. Very, like, we are like, I don't know what's going to happen in this season. I said, just trust me on this. You're going to miss this season because the season's going to go very quickly.

You're going to be rich. I said, and when you become rich, from there on, you're going to talk about these seasons, right? Meaning right now in this season, it is insane. It is dark, it is nasty, it is ugly. But 510 15, 2030 years from now, they're going to talk about the season.

Play ice Cube's clip. Let's see what ice Cube saying, here, go for it. What do you think that we are seeing waning support for President Biden? What can you tell us about the. Black community and the voter out there who's watching such a divisive situation going.

Vincent Oshana
Into the 2024 election coupe? Well, you know, everybody's different, so there's really no way to kind of put your finger on what everybody's thinking. But I know a lot of people see billions and billions of dollars going everywhere, but in the hands of, you know, the people that helped build this country. So, you know, I think that's a factor. I think all politicians have to deliver.

Dave Smith
You know, no more lip service. I don't think people are going for that no more. People want results. And if you don't. If you don't give results, then, you know, your popularity, your approval rating, all those things start to wane.

Patrick Bet-David
Mm hmm. Well, you're right. We've got money going to Ukraine, money going to Israel. You've got money going to young people. In the form of, you know, this administration wanting to forgive their student loan debt.

And yet the black community, the hispanic. Communities, are wondering, you know, why they can't get a leg up. What needs to happen, Cube? I think it needs to be a change in philosophy. You know, it's cool to try to help the world, but Americans need help here.

Dave Smith
You look around, cities are struggling. Everywhere people are struggling, and it doesn't look like it's getting any better. It looks like it's getting worse. So, you know, I think that alarms everybody. And, you know, when people are alarmed, they want to make a change.

Patrick Bet-David
Yeah. By the way, so what's his name? Cuba Gooden, tells me a story. Says when I'm on boys in a hood, but he says it's the first gig I get, right? He says, and they tell me it's gonna be with Ice Cube.

Okay, and Ice Cube, in 1988, has the album that comes out straight out of Compton, I believe. Can you check to see when. Rob, you should know one. Straight out of Compton. Rob, what your.

Vincent Oshana
Was it Tom or Rob? Yeah. What? 19? No, no, straight outta Compton.

Patrick Bet-David
Which one is there? Type in Ice Cube's first album. Ice Cube's first album. What year is it? Is it.

Is it. What year is it? Zoom in on to the right. See if. Zoom in.

Shows and shows what year it is. Okay. 1990. Okay, so. And they're shooting the movie right around that time.

And Cube is tough guy right now. Cuba gooden Junior. Right. And Cuba says, I go to Ice Cube, and I say, yo, o'Shea what are we going to do with this movie? He says, come here.

I said, well. I said, come here. I got to tell you something. He says, you don't call me O'Shea. You call me Cube.

Moving forward, you don't say O'Shea again. And he says, from there on, I call them Cube. And he says, there's a scene which is hilarious. He says, cube comes and says, look, man, I need your help. Cube was like, what do you need your help with?

He says, well, my brother dies. You know, I don't know how to cry. I'm not a crier. What do I do in that scene that they want me to cry? Cause I'm the kind of guy that just doesn't cry.

And he says, why don't you think about all the homies you lost? Okay? He said, that's all you have to say. So then when he goes and does that scene with the body and you see Cuba reacting the way he does, he says, ice cube, in that moment, thought about the homies he lost. And his reaction comes from a genuine standpoint of, my God, you know, I lost.

Can you imagine? Great actor. By the way, do you know what they pay Cuba for the movie Cuba gun Junior for? What are they? That's his first drama.

Adam Sosnick
Hundred bucks. Let's say 50 grand. 50 grand. $35,000. Wow.

Patrick Bet-David
Yeah. He did another movie called Gladiator, which not. No, no. Different one. He made 50, $60,000.

The movie was so bad. No, $32,000, boys. And Gladiator made a hundred thousand dollars. But one of the movies paid him $13 million. Okay.

Men of Honor was only one and a half million, and he killed it. What did he get 13 for? Can you radio? He said, what movie he got 13 million for, Tom. It's not one of his best movies, but he says that's the movie that paid him 13 million.

He says it's all gone. I don't have it in snow dogs. Snow dogs paid him $13 million. Wow. And have you ever seen snow dogs, Rob?

Vincent Oshana
Nope. Have you seen it? Rob has, of course. So, yeah, it's a Disney movie. Of course, Rob.

Patrick Bet-David
Snowdogs. But no, I mean, listen, Ice Cube is not alone. There's a lot of people that are kind of feeling the way he's feeling, but this is going to be. It's a part of me that agrees with what a lot of guys are saying that this. Who said it's not going to be an October surprise?

It's going to be a November surprise? Was it Chris that said it. Cuomo said, right. He said it's going to be November. Surprise.

I think this is going down to the wire. We're going to do a live podcast. It's going to be a, what do you call it? Where people are going to be here all day. We're going to have food, music, you know, cops outside, sheriffs outside.

Adam Sosnick
Oh, like at 59, 99, like what we did in 2020. But now with an audience. With an audience. So we're going to be eating, talking. It's going to be an insane, insane Super bowl.

Patrick Bet-David
I'm telling you. This is going to be one of those things where this is going to be the Super bowl of Super Bowls, of Super bowls of politics. I just hope that if we leave and Trump is winning and we all go to sleep and we wake up and all of a sudden Joe Biden skyrockets overnight. The people just don't go, well, you know, it happens. Mail in voting.

Vincent Oshana
I hope that allegedly, allegedly, he's gonna skyrocket at night. And I hope that point, people just don't go, oh, well, we got lesser of the two evils, Rob. I don't wanna hear that. Can you play, can you play Seinfeld's video I sent you of his speech? I just love what he says here.

Patrick Bet-David
You know, one of my favorite things I used to tell Mario, I'm like, Mario, I think we probably interviewed more 80 year olds than anybody else has. There's something special about talking to people that are older, that they give you something and they make things so simple that maybe you can't do, you definitely can't do in your twenties and thirties. You sometimes flirt with it in your thirties and your forties and fifties. I'm not 50, so I couldn't tell you. But look how this guy describes one thing here that Professor Galloway shared.

Go for it. Reach across a couple generations here to tell you the most important thing. I am confident that I know about life. I'm 70. I'm done.

Vincent Oshana
You are just starting. I only want to help you. The slightly uncomfortable feeling of awkward humor is it's not something you need to fix. I totally admire the ambitions of your generation to create a more just and inclusive society. I think it is also wonderful that you care so much about not hurting other people's feelings in the million and one ways.

We all do that every second of every day. It's lovely to want to fix those things. But all caps. But what I need to tell you as a comedian, do not lose your sense of humor. You can have no idea at this point in your life how much you are going to need it to get through.

Not enough of life makes sense for you to be able to survive it without humor. And I know all of you here are going to use all of your brains and muscle and soul to improve the world. And I know you're going to do a bang up job. And when you're done, as I am now, I bet the world, because of you, will be a much better place. But it will still not make a whole hell of a lot of sense.

It will be a better, different, but still pretty insane mess. And it is worth the sacrifice of an occasional discomfort to have some laughs. Don't lose that, by the way. You can't stop, even if it's at the cost of. It's so true, though.

Patrick Bet-David
Like, you know, comedy man plays such a big role to lower the temperature on everything that we're going through. Like, for example, Brady's roast. Yes. So good. Some of these things.

Like, for me, Dylan, he's a comedy guy. Tico wants to watch shining. You know, we're staying at a hotel the other day, PGA national. What is it called? National tour hotel.

Whatever it's called. He says, dad, this floor reminds me of the shining. Oh, God. I said, why would you say that before we're about to go to sleep? It's 11:00.

No, but look at. Look at the hallway. It's like the shining, bro. He's right. He wants to watch the shining at.

Vincent Oshana
11:00 mark my words. He's going to be a writer director for horror movies. He loves it, right? Absolutely loves it. But Dylan likes comedy.

Patrick Bet-David
Dylan watch couples retreat. I don't know if it's appropriate to let your sons watch couples retreat. They're going to watch it. At some point, he's gonna watch it. And just sits there and dies laughing.

I think humor is necessary, though. Adam, go ahead. You were gonna say something. Well, right after he gave that speech, in the middle of it, there was, like a few dozen gays for Gaza protesters that stormed off, as the media put it, was sort of trickled off. And in just Jerry Seinfeld fashion, he's just like, what's the deal with all these protesters?

Adam Sosnick
I mean, come on. And Jerry Seinfeld, if you know anything about Seinfeld, it's so funny. He's on the back nine of life right now. He's 70. You don't think the 150.

I think Seinfeld's going to make it to 100 because just he's got satire in those jeans. But, you know, we know about curb your enthusiasm. We know about Kramer. We know about Costanza. Veep with Elaine Bennis, Julia Louise Dreyfus.

It's all because of Seinfeld. Larry David Seinfeld. And he's the least controversial. Never curses. Vanilla.

Best comedian ever. So, I mean, there's. You put Chappelle up there. You could put Pryor up there. There's a lot of names.

They all curse. He does zero cursing. His whole element was coffee and cars with comedians. You know about this, Vinny, as a comedian. But it's so interesting to see him giving commencement speeches, taking a stance on something.

He was just on Bill Maher talking politics, which he never does. But that's sort of like, all right, I kind of got to stand for something, or I'll fall for anything. And he's absolutely right, Gen Z. Unfortunately, because of helicopter parenting and every. And participation trophies are the least funniest, most emotional, most offended, embracing, cancel culture generation ever.

And it takes someone like Seinfeld to get up there and be like, take a joke, guys. Relax a little bit. But unfortunately, a lot of them can. Vinny, thoughts? No, I just.

Vincent Oshana
I think, you know, that we have five senses, but notice how every time people. Nobody ever talks about this, when you say you got a sense of humor, that's a six. That's not on the. On the chart. To have that sense of humor, to not take everything serious, to laugh because there's so much.

I mean, look at me. Do I get angry? And I get emotional because I genuinely, truly care, and I am an angry patriot, and I love this country, and I'm willing to die. I would rather die free than live as a slave. I'm trying to.

Patrick Bet-David
Yeah. To wake everybody up at the same token. Laugh. And I think we need to laugh. I mean, I keep the serious moments for the seriousness, but to, like, relax for a second and enjoy each other's company and take the lighter side of things, I think it's hugely important.

Yeah, I agree. And by the way, Rob, I mean, we know that Mariso Tome has got a thing for short, phony, bald guys, and that was your market right there. That's why you're a big Seinfeld fan. I am. And I think he's one of the.

Rob Garguilo
He's. What a shame for the students that walked out and missed that part of the speech. Yeah. I mean, the odds that you get a celebrity like that, somebody that's well informed, well read, and he is the most profitable comedian of all time. Billion Seinfeld more than Chappelle, more than Chris Rock, more than any of those guys.

That guy has made the most amount of money, launched the most amount of careers in television. And you walk out, what do you mean? He launched the most career spinoffs for. The tv shows with, outside of Michael Richards, everybody else on that show went on to stardom. Outside of him, George, the guy that played George Costanza went into movies and other tv shows.

The girl that played Elaine, also on other tv shows. Then you look at the spinoff characters that were on that show and got other tv shows.

Adam Sosnick
Park, everything. Branson was a role player. Can you pull it up? His role on Brian Cranston? Yes.

Vincent Oshana
Oh, yeah. He was the doctor. What was the dentist.

In a row, everybody went through that here. Soap opera porn star. Look at that. Does look like a soap opera porn star. And what was his name on the show?

Patrick Bet-David
What? Lee Whatley. What? Yeah. And Seinfeld is literally a billionaire.

Adam Sosnick
Pull up his net worth. Yeah. Guarantee he's a billionaire. He has to be a billion, 700 million. No, I think I'm going, Billy, when.

Vincent Oshana
They sold, where's he at? $1 billion. And, and he is a guy who just stands. True. He's a comedian.

Adam Sosnick
When he went on Bill Maher, he goes, I just can't be around people that aren't working. I need to be working. If you're not working, what are you doing? This guy could be retired doing nothing, but he still wants to work. Yeah.

And that's what you talk about. There's always levels to this thing. And he could be retired doing nothing. Is he the argument of gold or. No, no, in the he shirt, he's 100% in the conversation.

He's out on Mount Rushmore. I don't know if anybody has him as number one. I mean, but he's in the conversation. I mean, no doubt. George Carlin, Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor.

Vincent Oshana
Oh, my God. Dave Chappelle. Yeah. I mean, I put him in maybe in the top ten, but top five again, comedy. Comedy is subject.

It's what, what cup of tea? But I'm talking about like the world. Dave Chappelle is, if you ask the. Boomers, he's up there. If you ask Gen Z, who doesn't have a sense of humor, he's not.

Tom Ellsworth
Economically, he's on Mount Rushmore. But the art of comedy, it's these other names he meant. Can you, Rob, can you pull up. We're talking about Bill Maher. Pull up the clip about Bill Maher by daily caller of him talking about.

Patrick Bet-David
I think I sent it to you. If you check your text. Yeah, I sent it to you. He was talking about COVID I don't know if you see it. I send it.

It's in the same link I sent with the other videos that are the Seinfeld humor. So if you have the Seinfeld humor one, you should have this one as well. I don't know if you see it. What's he talking about? What's he talking about?

I mean, you know what he's talking about. The moment he starts, you're going to be like, okay, I know exactly what he's talking about. Go ahead and play the clip, Rob. We didn't know exactly what was happening at the beginning of COVID And some mistakes were inevitable, but four years on, I'm tired of hearing, well, we didn't know. No, we didn't.

Dave Smith
But some people guessed better than others. And the people who got it wrong don't seem to want to acknowledge that. Now, some people said closing schools for so long was pointless and would cause much worse collateral damage to kids. And they were right. Thank you.

Patrick Bet-David
Okay. Okay. Don't be afraid.

Dave Smith
Four years ago, the Daily Beast ran a story with the headline, Bill Maher pushes Steve Bannon Wuhan lab conspiracy theory. Which was typical of the mainstream media at the time. Of course, it wasn't a conspiracy theory, and it wasn't owned by Steve Bannon. And now everyone, including the Biden administration, admits there's at least a 50 50 chance that the virus could have begun in the lab in Wuhan that was doing gain of function research on that virus. Duh.

But I don't see a lot of retractions being printed. Yeah, when COVID hit, we did a lot of stupid things because America never reacts. It only overreacts. Ubers look like those orthodox Jews who wrap themselves in saran wrap in case their plane flies over a grave.

I get it. That we didn't know exactly what he's saying. Tom, what do you think about what he's saying? Well, with Bill Maher, every now and then you have sober Saturday, and he goes on a monologue that I agree with that I think is well crafted and well put together. The issue I have with Bill Maher is that he flips back and forth from slaughtering people on one side for laughs and for, you know, ratings and for clicks and everything he does.

Tom Ellsworth
And then on the other side, he puts together these monologues that I think are well crafted, correct and very, very believable. And I just. You have to wait and see. Which Bill Maher you get each morning. I'm kind of with Roger Stone on this, and this is a fact.

Vincent Oshana
You're saying, like, he's, like, you're seeing him on this show, Tom, he has a stable of writers. I don't think. I don't think Bill Maher is right. I actually know some of his writers. He's not writing any of that stuff.

And you nailed it. He is such a bipolar flip flopper of points. Like, one day you're like, oh, my God, he's trying to come around, and then boom, Trump Derangement syndrome. He has another relapse. And it's like, you never know what you're gonna get.

And I get it. And by the way, all these guys were all pushing the same thing with the. With the vaccine and with all the COVID stuff of them. Every single one of them now are starting to turn, and we're just all supposed to go, yeah, you know what? Yeah, you guys got it all wrong.

No, no, no. Who was telling you guys to say it? Were you guys getting paid to say it? And now with all this crap that's happening with everybody, all the physical stuff that's happening, all the lockdowns, all the mental stuff, all the shit with the kids, all these random injuries that are happening, people dropping dead, cancer is up. Now we're supposed to just do what we got it wrong, and now let's hopefully we get it right the next time.

Patrick Bet-David
I think. I think. I think the accountability definitely needs to be held, people. Everybody that was talking that crap needs to be held accountable. And he's too much of a flip flop guy.

Vincent Oshana
Like, one day, one day he's here, one day he's there. You don't know what the hell you're going to get with Bill. I don't know if he's a flip flop or. I just think it's important to establish where he is on the political spectrum. Nobody knows, by the way.

Adam Sosnick
No, I'll tell you exactly where he is. So number one, shout out to his writers, because there's a clear distinction between when he's reading from the cue cards, reading from what the writers write, than what he's doing on club random with PBD when he dies. Club random is what's going on. Those are cute. PBD.

Vincent Oshana
Will, you know he's reading a teleprompter. Yeah, I know. Okay. The whole time, literally what I'm saying. Okay.

Adam Sosnick
But he's a classic liberal, so look at the political spectrum. If you want to just give it into five elements. You have the far left, you have the center left classic liberals. You have moderates who kind of can go either way depending on the issue. You have the center right.

You know, most entrepreneurs, capitalists sort of fall into that category, and then you have the far right extremists on that end. He's a center left classic liberal. So he does not identify with the progressive left and he will mock them to the end of time, but he certainly doesn't identify with people on the far right. That's why he has someone that he would still be labeled as Trump Derangement syndrome. So it's pretty clear where he is on the political spectrum.

But this is why he still gives praise to Gavin Newsom, why he can't basically acknowledge the fact that Gavin has ruined California and leftist politics have ruined a lot of these blue cities. He still hasn't crossed the middle, but he still will talk trash about the election, of course. And guess who he's voting for for this election? No matter. Not Trump.

Vincent Oshana
Joe Biden. He's gonna vote for Joe. The country could be literally burning on fire. I could see him also voting for RFK. He had RFK on recently and he goes, I'm trying to help you get elected.

Yeah, we'll see. What was your big takeaway from when you sat with Bill Maher? Bill Maher? Yeah. I didn't say a lot.

Patrick Bet-David
I was just. But you did, like, I can't sleep. What's the one thing that. What's the one you can't sleep at night? Global warming.

Vincent Oshana
Oh, yeah, global warming. You fix your suit and you said, it's what keeps me up and die. And he went, good. Me too. But what you got him so good cuz he like climate change.

Like really? That's the freaking problem we'll ever have. You back on based on that last combo. Pat, we're not going, man. Listen, the vision we have is you don't have a choice but have to have a son.

Patrick Bet-David
We're going to be, it's just whether we're going to want to be on or not. If you only knew the stuff that's going on behind closed doors. One of these days people are going to wake up and they're going to be like, holy shit. So that's what they were up to. But it's part of when a vision is real, you're convinced that the stars are lined up in your favor and God's on your side and you have certain things that's going on.

You just got to trust it good things are happening, so I will welcome the future conversations we'll have. And, yeah, definitely. Okay, so next. Suddenly there aren't enough babies. The whole world is alarmed.

This is a Wall Street Journal story. Fertility rates have plummeted globally, with the United nations projecting rates below replacement levels far sooner than anticipated. Actual birth registries report significant undershoots compared to UN estimates, with countries like China. Us experiencing substantial declines. According to Fernandez Villierda, global fertility may have reached between 2.1 and 2.2 last year, potentially marking the first time in human history that fertility falls below replacement levels.

First time ever. The pace of the decline has caught many off guard, with fertility rates declining faster and more extensively than previously predicted. Despite expectations for a gradual reduction, fertility rates have dropped swiftly, challenging assumptions about population growth and economic stability. According to Kearney, an economist at the University of Maryland, it has snuck up on us. Rob, can you pull up some of the charts that they have?

Not that. Not that. The other chart that has to do with this story, you don't have that. The article that I just read right now, because it shows. I can send you the picture.

Yeah, is this the one? I said that in the chat. By the way, what are these countries? Can you zoom in so we can see them? Okay, so that's the replacement where we were at.

Where we're at now. United nations estimates of live birds per women, how it's declined. Keep going. Used to be 4.86 to now 2.12.2, whatever the number was. This is what, Rob, this is us red.

Is it us? 1.62. And South Korea is 0.72. And the world average 2.15. Oh, my.

And it used to be four or five even in. Okay, go a little lower. What's the next one, Rob, is there any other charts? No, that's the one. That's the one I'm looking at.

Zoom in a little bit. So us has declined. Mexico dramatically. Wow. They were having five kids.

They're down to less than two. Us went from 1.8 up to 2.1 down to 1.6. India dramatically dropped from 4.9 to two. China dropped from three to one. Damn.

Look at South Korea. They dropped from three. 2.82.92. .7 Hungary dropped. Came up.

Japan dropped, keeps dropping. And Japan, there's something called the sexless society in Japan. You ever heard this before? No. Type in Japan.

Sexless society. Japanese folks don't have a lot of sex. And this is not a joke. It's called a sexless society. Japan is a sexless society.

Click on it. What? Yeah. Japan is a sexless society. Those girls are there having fun.

By 2060, Japan is expected to have a population of 86.7 million, down from 128 million in 2008. At least 40% of the 86 million is expected to be 65 and older. As the population declines, there will be fewer younger people to care for the older. Tokyo is expected to have medical and nursing shortages. The decline in Japan's population has been in the works since the early seventies.

Why has Japan gone through this? And it explains, has Japan become a sexist society? Tom, what are your concerns with these numbers on the birth rates we're having? So, first of all, the socialists have a spreadsheet problem. They need money and they need to tax taxpayers, and taxpayers are people under 60 that are working.

Tom Ellsworth
So if you're going to take all this money and you're going to have a socialist society when people live too long and you don't have enough new taxpayers, guess what? Your spreadsheet breaks. The second thing is, I think is really sad is this. Talks about the global destruction of a simple institution that has been pervasive in history, and it's called the family. And with the destruction of the institution of the family has come, you know, fecundity rates haven't changed.

Fecundity rates is people's ability to have kids, and fertility rates is how often they have kids. And it's terrible, I think the destruction of a family, you know, abortion and things that go along with it, that are, you know, giving us an older population, retired. Okay, so let's write that down. Hang on. Let's go through tomorrow.

Patrick Bet-David
So. So abortion. So you're saying abortion rates. Okay, number two, you're saying, what? Boomer generation growing, so they're not having kids.

What else would you say? What's another reason why fertility rates in us are dropping? Is it fair to say we're becoming more of a selfish society where it's about us, not others? Have we increased in our selfishness? Absolutely.

You think so? How do we, how do we prove that? How do we prove the concept that we become more of a selfish society? Gather up every headline that says that children are an economic burden. Economic to who?

Tom Ellsworth
You can't do what you want. You can't have more fun. Kids are in the way. Look at all those headlines, PBD, that points to, oh, children are an economic problem. Children are issue.

Children takes away your ability to live life rather than having the delight of raising new citizens and being so proud of them and what they can be. We're upside down. Just go find all these headlines that talk about that, and I'll put them in a bucket called, you know, exhibit a. Selfishness. Okay, what else would you say?

Vincent Oshana
Vaccines. Rob, can you look at what I just texted you? Take a look at it and see if that's true or not, and then if you have credibility to show it's not. I want to. I want to talk about.

We put vaccines on there because they're saying sometimes they have infertility in the vaccines. Okay, why aren't people having. Okay, maybe they can find. That's allegedly. We need to research it.

Patrick Bet-David
Oh, yeah. What else could be the reason for fertility rates? Could it be. Could it be the lack of values and principles? Marriage, family.

Vincent Oshana
That could be one testosterone down. Testosterone. Okay, fine. So maybe that could be linked to too much phone time. It should be social.

Yeah, all that stuff. Okay, so. Okay. Boom. The next.

Patrick Bet-David
Next thing is porn becoming too accessible. I'm making a list. Guys like. Yeah, the sex of the porns, the. The sex dolls, the toys, the this, the that.

Tom Ellsworth
You don't have to be married to have kids. I'm not in the market. Are there some high end sex dolls right now? I can't. I don't know, confirm or deny, Rex.

Patrick Bet-David
I mean, I'm from a Honda Crx. So what else? So porn being too accessible. You don't have to be married to have kids, but divorce rates that have been going up since the eighties, you know, proves the family's fracturing. What else?

What else, Tom? I would say nine. Faith. What else? What else?

Adam Sosnick
I'll give you mine when you're ready, Tom. Keep going. Go ahead, Adam. What else would you add? Well, I'll give you a couple things.

Number one, we saw that Wall Street Journal article about the decline in traditional american values. The leading thing was patriotism. People aren't even proud to be american anymore. We've seen that decline. The declination of family, the declination of people having kids, the declination of religion, the declination of community involvement.

The only thing that actually went up was money. Speaking of selfish or being selfless, I think it's totally okay to be selfish up until a certain point when it's time to be selfless. I'm going through that transition right now. Not the type of transition Vinnie talks about, but also a part of it is what it costs to have a kid. It costs $250,000 per kid from zero to 18.

If you're Gen Z or millennial, and you're actually the only generation that's expected not to be as rich as your parents. You have some math problems to do. And we all just saw the buy now, pay later situation that's going on economically with people and their money. Then you have student debt that's basically pushing people down to waiting time to buy a house, and it's taking longer to do that. Then you have the feminist problem.

Patrick Bet-David
All right. Modern feminism. We saw the war of words that I had with Chelsea handler about a year ago when she was advocating for being a boss babe and never having kids, and then just thinking that you're gonna be happy alone at 50 years old, a couple cats and a vibrator. Good luck, Chelsea. But modern feminists, working women, and boss babe culture is taking over.

Adam Sosnick
Speaking of culture, there's something called hookup culture, and there's also called baby mama culture. I don't need no man. Linda Baines Johnson married the state. Don't marry a man. They'll pay for you.

Your welfare queen. Now, baby girl. Good luck. Wait a minute. Slow down.

Patrick Bet-David
Who said this? Linda Bain Johnson from the great Society. What he talked about with. I remember watching that. Yeah, it was a video.

Tom Ellsworth
Adam, were you paraphrasing, or is there an article on that somewhere? I want to paraphrase right there, but we all know what's going on there, then there's abortions out there. Stop. Slow down. I'm taking notes.

Adam Sosnick
Okay, got you. I'm so. I'm on fire, Pat. I love. I'm loving this.

Patrick Bet-David
Hang tight. So here's what we got tracking. Don't stop train when it's on the track. Modern feminism. This is actually very helpful to modern feminism because sauce cast.

These are the things you talk about. That's not our part of it. Yes. So boss babe culture. Yeah.

And then the other one, you said, marry the government. Would you say marry the government married the state rather than your state? Not a bout that with Linda Benjamin. Yeah. This is great talk about the lack.

Adam Sosnick
Of men in society and that. What you mean you've talked about this? What it used to be. 4% of all kids were born to a single parent. Now it's up to 40%.

The darker your complexion, no offense, the less likelihood that your man's gonna be in the house. If you're hispanic, I think it's 60%. And if you're black, I think it's 70% that the father's not in the house. Not in the home. Because they're encouraged to basically have fatherless homes.

That's going on. We've seen what happens with fatherless homes? You're more likely to do drugs. You're more likely to go to jail. You're most likely to drop out of school.

You're most likely to have all these sorts of issues. Then you have the phone situation that, you know, you don't need to go play outside. You don't know how to interact with others. Just stay on your phone all day. So it's just a complete shit show.

What's going on in America right now. We talk about the great replacement theory that Tom's a big proponent of out there. But the great replacement theory is that people aren't having kids. Now, here's the catch, because I'm sure, say, Adam, you don't have any kids. The difference is I want to have a bunch of kids.

I'm just waiting to choose the right wife and mother to the kids, but I can do that in my forties. Women, if you actually choose to play the long game, you're gonna have a very sad future, because by the time you're 35, what is known as, basically, you have trouble having a baby. I forgot the name of the exact term. After 35. You have.

Vincent Oshana
Don Lemon said, you're not in your prime anymore. Exactly. You're not in your prime. You have. Yeah, you have an issue having kids.

Adam Sosnick
I forget the name of the term. But when you're 40, it's basically very tough to have kids, especially if you want to have multiple. Good luck having one of those. But for men and women, it's different. But women, this goes back to the decline in traditional values.

Women have lost sight of what their superpower is, and that is motherhood. Yes, you can have a business. Yes, you can make money. Yes, you can work. But nobody, despite what certain people in the trans community can say, will tell you that men can have babies.

Women are the ones that are having babies, and they need to remember that that is their superpower. And that's a lot of what Andrew Tate talks about when we had those conversations with him. But people want to blaspheme him for having traditional values when women are the ones that have the babies. As much as they're trying to push that men can have babies too. There's men having baby emojis on your iPhone, but there's no family.

Vincent Oshana
They took the emoji. Do you recall that? They took them out. And what about abortion? We didn't mention abortions.

People have a baby because they're killing, what, 73 million a year globally, or abortions, I think. Is that an accurate number? Rob? How many abortions, if you have to guesstimate, Rob, how many abortions worldwide do. Do humans do?

How many? 73 million average. That's one. And then what about environmental concerns? People that are like, we're overpopulated.

That's one of the reasons that they don't want to have baby. What is the worldwide. Oh, I'm sorry. 100 each year, 121 million abortions. And then, yeah, this translates to 73 million abortions per year.

73 million human beings. That's why the abortion conversation, by the way, it's geriatric pregnancy. What I was thinking, let's actually go through this. Let's actually go through this, because this is a very interesting topic here. Rob, tell me if this sounds.

Patrick Bet-David
Does this sound accurate? Okay. I just don't like manipulation and lies being told. The guy is going around saying something. I'll respond to him here in a minute if Robbie can verify that on email.

So let's go through it. So why is fertility rates below. Okay, abortion? Rob, is there a chart to show how much abortion has increased over the years? Like year over year abortions?

And if you can show year over year abortion. Okay, in America, I have a feeling. It'S gonna go up. Pat, it's year over abortion rate, long. Term abortion, just here or worldwide.

I don't care. Whatever the number us is, preferably what I want to see. So what does that show you? Goes down, comes up. So depending on who the president.

It goes up, comes down. Okay, fair. So abortion one. Okay. And by the way, you know what that impacts the most?

So this was brought up, was started, planned, parented by lady name, what's her name? Singer Margaret Sanger. Margaret Sanger. Which, by the way, she. There's been a lot of things that she said.

The biggest thing planned parenthood is impacted is african american babies. Yep. Tom, there's a word you use. What do you call it? I call abortion in America a genocide on African Americans.

Tom Ellsworth
14% of the population to 17% of the population, depending on what year you're talking about. Yet they've run 38% to 40% of the abortions. I happen to think that Barack Obama shouldn't have been the first black president. He probably should have been the second. And I think that there is an atrocity that's there that I could go deeper on.

That is a statistical fact. Okay, so let me continue. And Kanye talks about that. Not that Kanye is making a lot of sense these days, but that is one thing that is accurate. Boomer generation is the largest generation since, I think millennials are the only one that's close to them.

Patrick Bet-David
76 million kids born between 46 and 64. Obviously, they're not having babies anymore. Selfishness. We're thinking about ourselves. You got vaccines.

You're saying allegedly. Maybe somebody can do the research on that. Values and principles. Declining church going, declining testosterone. Declining.

Too much of. What do you call it? Porn. Porn. We said porn, but it was too much.

This is an Internet word? No, it's social media. Too much social media, which means we're spending too much time on the phone, not interacting with others. So husband and wives are in bed, not talking to each other during the phone. You're definitely not having sex?

Sure. Or singles are just in their home on the phone doing dating apps and not meeting up in real life. Irl porn, being accessible. Faith. Modern feminism.

Okay, boss. Babe married the state, not a husband. So the other day, I'm sitting down talking to a group of a couple that was sitting in front of me, and the daughter sits right in front of me. Tico's to my left, he's twelve, she's twelve. They're sitting right here.

They're 42, and the daughter's like, I want another sibling. And they have two kids. I said, so why two? Why not more than two? Well, you know, we've talked about it, all this other stuff.

I said, look, you guys make good money, you're good people. You're raising good right values and principles. Why don't you go for three or four or five? And the husband actually was straight up. He says, look, the worry is we got two healthy kids.

I worry, what if the third one isn't? By the way, very valid concern. Okay? Very valid concern on what could happen, especially when your age and you're going through it. Right, okay, no problem.

Yesterday, I'm walking the dog's, middle of the night, one of my neighbors pulls up, we start talking, high end lawyer, stud of a guy. And I said, so what's going on? He says, we're expecting our second. I said, you gotta be kidding me. He said, no.

I said, seriously? Yeah. He says, I'm surprised myself, because we didn't think it was possible. How? My wife's 48.

No way. Yeah, she looks like she's 38. Well, okay, great. So he's 48. They're having their next baby, no problem.

Good for them. There's a fear of having kids. There's a fear of we're not going to enjoy our life, and it's going to be about me, me, me, me. This level of selfishness, if there is a way to rate the level of selfishness in America. According to the book power versus force, you would see America's become more of a selfish nation.

We all have. Everybody's thinking more about themselves, let me tell you. Do you know when you have kids, everything revolves around them? This weekend, Friday, I have to drive up to Palm Beach. I have to put him there.

Jen has to take the kids to another birthday party on Saturday. Saturday morning, Dylan's got a soccer game. We have to be there at 715. Then he's got another soccer game at 01:00. So there's a four hour break that there's nothing going on.

Then after the soccer game, his sore, his legs hurt. Then I took these guys to go watch a movie. We watched a new planet of the kingdom of the. Whatever it was. It was actually very good movie.

Then we go to dinner as a family. When we're going to dinner as a family, we eat at this place, butchers butcher's something. Can you. Is it Butchers Butcher's club? I think it's at what city?

Butcher's Palm beach. Type in Butcher's club restaurant. Rob, just any Google anything. Butcher's club, Palm beach. Okay.

Food was awesome. A little slow, because typically when you go to a place with four kids, you would hope they kind of move a little faster. But we saw a bunch of nice people. Waiter was very nice. They were good people.

Food was ridiculous. Look at that. That's truffle ridiculous. So it's taking so long that I'm like, jen, I can't have Brooklyn being here. She's climbing on my back.

We walk out. I walk out. Kids start racing. One of the kids racing, they come back, and finally we're walking back. Brooklyn trips on her own foot and hits her head on the edge of a door.

Like, imagine a metal door edge. It splits her back of the head. I put my hand on the back. There's literally blood all over me. Oh, my God.

Blood all over her dress. The kids start panicking. All of them. Of course, it's your sister. Baby sister.

Dylan T. Cosena don't know how to react. We call the ambulance. We call the cops. They come out.

We go to the ER. She gets three stitches in her head, okay? And that's Friday, that's Saturday night. Then we get up. Dylan has a soccer game in the morning.

Then we have to pack. Then we have to come back. Dylan has a football game in the afternoon. So we go to the football game. It's literally 100 degrees.

Then we come back home. Then you gotta celebrate in Grace's 16th birthday, future Supreme Court justice Grace. So we're celebrating that. And then, you know, and from there we go and just. And then there's.

There is no weekend. No. There is no weekend. There is no chance to do what you want to do with you. There is no date.

There's none of this stuff. You're not taking a nap. And guess what? Of course you don't have. But guess what?

Ten out of ten times, I do it all over again. For sure. Ten out of ten times. You know why? Because you're.

You're seeing something grow. When Tom comes up to me and says, hey, Pat, just want to give you my dates in advance. This date. This date. This date.

I said, what is it? These dates? I'm going to go with Bailey to look at these schools, because this. And I'm going to go through the interview. Tom lights up.

Tom's a whole different human being when his girls are around him, he's not the same guy. Whenever you see Tom, look at Tom when his girls are around him. You've been around him. When Christmas, we're at Aspen. Tom's not the same man when his kids are around him.

He's a different man when his kids are around. You just can't explain it right. I think we have sold this selfish society of not having kids. We have sold faith is a bad thing. We have sold live for you, not for others.

We have sold not having kids because they own you. And they're so. We have sold so many different things, and people gradually are buying into it. But I'm telling you, one of the greatest risks you'll ever take in life, if God blesses you, is to have kids. If you're teaching the right values and principles, you make money.

You're able to make it work. Have as many kids as possible. There is risk to it. I'm not telling you. It's going to be all perfect and dandy.

There's a scary part. It's valid. You ought to be scared. You ought to be concerned. You ought to be doing the due diligence on all the vaccines.

Kids should be taken, not be taken. You ought to be concerned about what things you're not comfortable with, how to raise your kids. Private schools, public schools. All of these are valid, valid concerns. But the opposite side, like telling this couple, I'm like, guys, you have to realize life doesn't make sense to me without Brooklyn.

Life doesn't make sense to me without Brooklyn. I can't explain life without Brooklyn. If I don't meet Brooklyn. Life doesn't make any sense to me. So this idea, when you're seeing stuff like this, there's the logical argument, there's the divisive argument of the depopulation community, and then there's the argument of, look, man, one of the greatest blessings you'll have is if you can experience everybody's experience, what it is to love a mom.

Because if you're born, your mom gave birth to you. Love a mom is different. If you can experience love of a father is different. Love of a sibling, different. Love of a best friend, community, different.

Love of your job trade, different. Love of God, different. Love of your trade industry, different. Love of your country, different. Love of a child.

I'm telling you, it's so unique, it's so tough to describe. Look at the way Brooklyn sees you, how she runs up to you. Imagine that's yours. Yeah. Yeah.

It is so difficult to explain, but when you have it, you know exactly what I'm talking about. I just don't know if we're selling this. I don't think the people that have kids in are enjoying it. I think they're selling too much of the drama and how hard it is and all this stuff. And they're not selling all the other good stuff.

I'm all for it. But I also understand the risk aspect. I'm not going to sit there and say there's not a risk to it. I get it, but I'm just telling you it's a risk worth taking. Yeah, well, I sent you something on your phone because you are making a difference.

Adam Sosnick
And when you read it, I'll tell you the story right there. But you're absolutely right. Everything in life comes to risk and reward. But there's another r in the risk and reward situation. You crying?

Patrick Bet-David
No, no, no. I got making you emotional. I know Pat, he's playing the whole. My eyes are. Yeah, but there's another r and the risk reward thing, and that is regret.

Adam Sosnick
And what you get to the beautiful thing in life is that you get to choose your regrets. I've heard Chris Williamson talk about this before, but you can choose your regrets. I never forget PBD. It was Thanksgiving, 2020. We were at your house in Dallas and you and Jen made that announcement, right?

Patrick Bet-David
Yeah. And I won't go into all the details, but long story short, you have Brooklyn here, but you guys took the risk to have the fourth child made. Two boys, two girls. I know you talk about you'd have 100 more if you could, but I'll never forget that Thanksgiving dinner. The table was crying.

Adam Sosnick
Oh, my God. This is crazy. Pat, another kid. Oh, my God. And then a month later, we moved to Florida.

Boom. It was all good from there. But I'll circle back to. There is a difference between men and women. And I'll use an analogy.

You know, I always encourage men to take your time, because women get their shine on the front end, where men. It takes a lot more time to basically become a man of status. And sometimes it's gonna take you into your thirties or forties to become that man. And I encourage men, when it comes to dating, test drive as many cars as possible just to see what the final car that you wanna buy. If women test drive too many cars, they're known as high mileage vehicles, and they have too many tread on their tires, and nobody wants a used car.

But with a man, if they actually get a lot of practice, like Vinny's doing, he's no longer just a used vehicle. He becomes a classic muscle car. So it is different. And when. When I talked about geriatric pregnancy, after that, after 35 and 40, women can't have kids.

Men, we. We take some time. Like a good pasta sauce. Take some time to basically become our own in our forties. I mean, it's that there's a reason why men are called silver foxes, but nobody's like, oh, look at that hot chick with gray hair.

It's not a thing. George Clooney, Leonardo DiCaprio. It's a little bit different. Tom Ellsworth, all major studs that are. Out there big time.

That basically take time. Tom, you didn't get married and have kids until your forties, correct? That's right. Okay. And how old was Kim when you had your first kid?

Tom Ellsworth
I'm not allowed to say that publicly. Okay. But way younger than you. Cause you out kicked your cover. Good for you.

Yep. All I'm saying is there's a difference between age, between men and women. And women at least need to acknowledge that. That you could be equal. But different.

Adam Sosnick
Men and women are different. So we should have, like, a national. Everybody get out there, find somebody you like, and hook up day just to save humanity. I mean, that'll rock the vote, rock the. Rock the boat, rock the cradle.

Tom Ellsworth
So I hate that I say this, but by your definition of over 35, we had two geriatrics. Let's go, kid. 36 and 41. So there's. There's some important things in life.

Patrick Bet-David
This is one of them. If you're watching this and you stepped away from the change. This guy's life right here. I don't know if you saw that. We had a conversation, let me see this.

Adam Sosnick
And because Pat has been going out there telling people, have more kids, have more kids. If you have money, have more kids. I won't say his name because I don't put it out there, but we were sitting at your house at lunch, two guys with the same name, and this guy ended up having a kid. And what's the last thing he said? Let me see this year, let Pat know he played a role in this.

Because you were like, have more kids. I love it. And he sent me this message, oh. This is who I think it is with the skate. Wow, crazy.

Patrick Bet-David
Yeah, that's great. His friend, I know, exactly. Realistic. But that's something you do. Congratulations to them.

Well, listen, I mean, God does it and then you do the work. Others, if they can encourage you to want to risk having kids and being gifted by God, it'll be the greatest, think about the greatest gift you ever got. Nothing even comes close. This is a very unique situation here. Okay.

All right, so Vinny, last thing with you, you have something you want to share with us? Tell us what's going on with what you found out with Moderna and astraZeneca, so people can do their own research. Okay, so for people that want to do their own, well, Moderna first and foremost, they stopped their new mRNA vaccine trials after a high rate of side effects. Puzzling skin, that's, that's just Moderna, that's their new mRN one HIV vaccine. So it's just, you know, they're having problems over there.

Vincent Oshana
AstraZeneca is withdrawing its COVID-19 vaccine worldwide months after the pharma giant admitted the drug could cause very rare but life threatening injuries. All right. The british swedish drug maker, also known, withdrew its EU marketing authorization for the vaccine branded vaxiviria since 2021. The authorization is the approval to market a drug EU's member states. The withdrawal was due to, they said, a surplus of available updated vaccines against new variants of the novel coronavirus.

The application to withdraw the vaccine from the EU was made on March 5 and came into effect a couple days ago, on May 7. As multiple variant COVID-19 vaccines have since been developed, there's a surplus. They're basically saying, everybody's making vaccines, there's so many of them. We're going to step, we're going to step back. But in the same voice they said.

Exactly, Tommy. In the same, same breath they said, they admitted that the vaccine, initially called Covishield, could cause very rare side effects like blood clots and low blood platelets counts. The Telegraph reported this. So it's just, you know, in this, in this room with all this stuff that they're, you know, with all the vaccine stuff. And then I sent him this.

There's a bird flu. And not to be the fear mongering, I just, I read between the lines. I watch a lot of content and I want to see, you know what, because, you know, Fauci. And I'm not Fauci. I'm sorry, Bill Gates.

And you know, who's the Klaus Schwab they're always warning? I keep hearing pandemic number two. Pandemic number two. These are just little things you guys have to be aware of. I sent Rob the video.

This guy's name is Doctor Jeremy Ferrar, chief scientist at the wHo, which, by the way, the who is having their pandemic treaty meeting. It's coming up for two weeks at the end of this month. Tom, this is the world, the World Health Organization. Yeah, not the band v who warning us about bird flu. H five n one.

The virus can jump from cows to humans and spread from human to human. And the mortality rate is extraordinarily high. Please, guys, don't take this as a. Oh, they're just trying to scare us. No, they're putting the information out there.

Just like when Christopher Ray warns of something bad happening. Take their word. There's 70 potential cases reported in Colorado, and this guy hints at another vaccine and the virus affecting cows. Think about it. We'll hit two targets.

This is my opinion. It'll reduce meat consumption, which. That's all they're saying. And then pushing another jab. I have the video of Doctor Jeremy Ferrar, chief scientist at the who.

No, not this one, Rob, the one that I sent you. It's the chief. Nope, not that. That guy right there. So it reduces beef consumption because all the cows get sick.

The thing about it, that's because we're not stopping the meat eating. You know, they keep saying eat bugs and shit. None of us are gonna do it. I'm. Nobody's gonna get between me and my freaking.

Patrick Bet-David
Have some meat and some bugs in Oaxaca, Mexico. How did it taste? It was actually very crunchy. And it was me and Mario. Mario.

This was back in the days when Mario was still testing all the tequilas around the world. Got you seven, eight. Putting it in there. So he tried mezcal and. And he put bugs in there.

No, we ate the bugs. So we were, you know, but this was a mexican traditional bug. But going back to your point to this, eating bug stuff lowers your testosterone. You're not giving me a. Yeah, yeah, I'm not doing it.

Vincent Oshana
But, um. Uh. But yeah, Tom, so think about this. They've, they're, they were telling us, don't eat meat. Bill Gates and all these guys are buying up all this farmland on purpose.

Patrick Bet-David
What's this clip? So and so, this is them. They're saying it. This is the who, Jeremy Ferrar talking, warning us about the bird flu. And just, just pay close attention to what he's saying.

Virus now evolves and develops the ability to infect humans and then critically, the ability to go from human to human transmission. And we know that in the rare. Cases, I think off the top of my head, 400 or 500 cases so far of humans, the mortality rate is extraordinarily high. So to me, this is a major concern. The current outbreak, for want of a better word, in America amongst cows is really concerning as well, and also talks to this issue of transmission.

We have to understand in those cow settings, sheds how h five m one is transmitting, because, because it may be learning, not learning, evolving into transmitting in different ways. This is a huge concern. And I think we have to watch more than watch. We have to make sure that if h five n one did come across to humans with human transmission, that we were in a position to immediately respond with access equitably to vaccines, therapeutics and diet. Ready for this?

Vincent Oshana
Giving you a heads up, by the way, for the who. He's the chief scientist, is warning us. And I waited for the end and we just have everything and a vaccine ready to go as if, and this is the one thing that really, really bothers me when it comes to these pharmaceutical companies that are making this. Tom, I know that you know this. There needs to be some liability.

Okay. Besides the fact, because I know, Pat, you said that they shouldn't be able to give money to any, to donate any money to any campaigns or anything. You mean accountability? Accountability, because the majority of these companies have immunity. And there's also the National Childhood Vaccine Injury act of 1986.

That's a federal law that reduces the potential financial liability of vaccine manufacturers due to vaccine injury claims. So if you can make this thing, you know, the problem comes up. You make this thing, you know what I mean, like, and you, there's no fault for any of the side effects. I think that there should be something put in place. There has to be some liability, some accountability for these people, don't you think?

Tom Ellsworth
There's a couple things there that you say, and I agree with you. You know, we're hearing things that these people are saying, and we're not drawing conclusions or writing research paper here. We're saying, is this guy saying that the cows could get sick and we may all need another vaccine? That's what he's saying. Is he saying the mortality rate is high and they're worried about it?

Oh, my gosh. It almost kind of sounds like the first little rumor. And then we learned Wuhan. What's Wuhan? What's a city in China?

You remember that? You start learning all these old things. Yeah, it really, really kind of raises your suspicions a little bit when you hear things like this. And, Rob, you put up the one with Bill Gates. It's not as if these people aren't telling us.

Vincent Oshana
They're warning you. They're giving you a heads up. Can you go to the Bill Gates one? Robbie, this is Bill Gates. Look what he says.

Patrick Bet-David
I had predicted there was a risk of a pandemic, and sadly, you know, that came true. He's a psychic. We're past that now. We need to get people working together in partnership and taking innovation and applying it to help the very poorest in the world. He looks rough.

Tom Ellsworth
When was this? When is this? I think this is recently, because he looks rough. But he's saying, like, he predicted it. He warned us.

Vincent Oshana
He told us. When the. Who is telling you guys? There's a bird flu. It's in cows.

It can jump from human, and then we could weaken, spread it. I think people should start paying attention and then. Rob, I sent you the. Did you see the camel one? It's.

I mean, this is totally off subject, but it's happening everywhere, too. There's another one. Look at the camel. This is a camel outbreak, fears his camel flu with 35% fatality rate, kills one and infects two more. Brock, you scroll down, look at that camel.

Look how pissed off his face is. Go down, look at that guy. He knows he's sick, Pat. He knows.

Tom Ellsworth
He does know. Not want to get a shot. That's what it is. So the pathogen known as middle east respiratory syndrome, MeRS, typically comes from camels, which is why it's often dubbed camel flu. The previous outbreaks were traced back to people working close, with contacts with the animals or their raw milk.

Vincent Oshana
There's a handful of cases right now from human to human. So I'm just saying it's like it's slowly happening, and it's just, you know, this is election year, so a lot of craziness is going to be. I mean, the fact that, again, we're talking about it and the audience gets to make a decision for themselves and do your research is the key. That's what it is. But what I'm interested in, this is why we're hosting the debate discussion with Dave Smith and Chris Cuomo.

Patrick Bet-David
And by the way, while I'm posting this, somebody just text me saying, tim Pool just said, so if you can pull this up, Rob, which is kind of, I don't know what Tim is going through, and if he is, he's trying to find a way to create, be for himself. I don't know what it is. We have. We don't process a lot of how Tim is processing this. A guy comments and said, take notes, Tim Cass.

When your fans back by having and hosting the important debates, he responds, actually, I was asked to do the debate and turn them down. First of all, we never asked you to do this debate. Last week. We spoke to you on March 25, which was when you called us out for having Chris Cuomo being one of our talent that's gonna be doing podcasts and different shows with us. You were not happy.

You said it was. What was his words? He says something, effing dumbest effing decision ever. He said something like that. If I recall.

Adam Sosnick
He didn't have nice words. No, no. But by the way, totally fine. I think he's actually a very talented guy, and he does a good work. He does very good.

Patrick Bet-David
He's actually very smart guy. We've had him on before. But Tim, I just put this on Twitter, and I said the following. I said, hey, question mark, if you want to pull up my tweet, rob, because. And I got Rob right here, who spoke to Vanessa, your person.

Go to my last tweet. I said, actually turned it down. Question mark. Our team and your team spoke on March 25. Your book has said you wanted us to fly you down in a private jet.

No one's ever asked that, which was kind of a strange request, especially after I attended your paid event in Miami. You asked me to do, and I asked you for nothing. It was a favor. So it's kind of weird to say I come to your event with Matt Gaetz and others, and it was free, and you paid, you made money that night, and we asked you to come and have a conversation after you say, it's the worst effing decision, and you say this. So let me know if you want me to share the email exchange?

And, Rob, I think you communicated. So you want to kind of give any commentary on this? Well, we did. We tried. It's difficult to figure out the first class jet issue.

Rob Garguilo
We weren't looking. That's not in the budget for the event that we had. So what we offered was, you know what we normally offer? Round trip accommodations, a business or first class flight, a hotel. When they said that they needed the private jet, we offered to do the podcast on a different day and time so that he could fly down on a commercial plane but still keep his recording schedule and come work with us and do the podcast.

And they continue to insist after multiple times that they just wanted the private jet. So that was the negotiating. Well, he does live in a city that's not located near a big airport. I mean, literally, I think he's somewhere out in West Virginia. Tim, I'll say a bunch of nice things and maybe something you should look into.

Adam Sosnick
Smart, opinionated, gets views, very capable. But book recommendation, maybe. You read how to win friends and influence people because there's better ways to navigate relationships, but this is not how. To win friends and influence people. This is called lying.

Patrick Bet-David
There's a difference because how to win friends and influence people. You could take a different approach here. He says, what? Scroll down. Go scroll down, Rob, I offered it.

He said, I turned it down. You never did. You asked for a private jet. So don't lie. Tim.

Just say that you wanted us to pay for private jet. And of course we're not going to pay for a private jet. If you wanted to have the conversation, you'll have the conversation. Anyways, folks, this is getting spicy. A lot of people want to see this conversation with Dave Smith and Chris Cuomo.

If you are wanting to see this live, May 31, six to 09:00 p.m. Go to 5990 live.com. Again, go to 5990 live.com. Get a ticket, come down to the show, and then afterwards we'll have a cigar or two with you with Dave and Chris at our cigar lounge. And it's great because it's on Friday night.

It's going to be great for people to hang out. I don't know how long we'll leave the cigar lounge open, but it'd be great conversation. The crew will be there. You'll see Tom, Vinny, and Adam. Everybody else will be there as well.

Rob, we don't have a podcast all week this week, right? Cause I'm out of town. Correct. But we will get back at it again. Next week.

Just because I'm out of town doesn't mean he's not doing a podcast later on today. And it doesn't mean unusual is not doing a podcast today this week and doesn't mean that Tom's not doing other things this week. So make sure you go check him out. And Rob, put up the Manect, if you could at the end. Last but not least, remember, Candace is officially on Manek.

Welcome her. Send her a Manet. Candace, it's great to have you on. She'll respond back to you. Take care, everybody.

God bless. Bye.

Chris Cuomo vs Dave Smith Debate, Bird Flu Spreads & Michael Cohen Testifies | PBD Podcast | Ep. 411

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