R4, HOLE 7: CC Sabathia & Angie Martinez on: Competitive Nature of Golf, Country Club Golf vs. Muni Golf, Choosing Your Friends Wisely, Why They Golf

This episode delves into the personal experiences of CC Sabathia and Angie Martinez with golf, contrasting country club and municipal golf courses, and the social aspects of choosing golf partners.

1. Golf demands a strong mental game, similar to professional sports and broadcasting.
2. Choosing who to golf with can significantly affect the enjoyment of the game.
3. Country clubs offer a different vibe from municipal courses, often being more exclusive but also more accessible to those within certain social strata.
4. Golf serves as a meditative practice, offering a break from multitasking and providing mental clarity.
5. The sport's challenges and frustrations can paradoxically lead to a greater appreciation of simple successes and personal interactions.

1: Introduction

The hosts and guests discuss their personal journeys with golf and its unexpected mental challenges. CC Sabathia: "It's just like pitching. It's one shot at a time." Angie Martinez: "You have to be present and execute each time."

2: The Allure of Golf

Exploration of what draws high-profile individuals to golf, highlighting the sport's meditative and competitive aspects. CC Sabathia: "I picked up golf and fell in love with it. It's just like pitching." Angie Martinez: "It's one of the few things I do where I'm not multitasking."

3: Social Dynamics in Golf

Discussion on selecting golf partners wisely, managing distractions, and the impact of social interactions on gameplay. J.R. Smith: "Choose your friends wisely on the golf course." Angie Martinez: "Every time I mess up, it's because I took a call or got distracted."

4: Cultural and Access Changes in Golf

CC Sabathia and Angie Martinez discuss how golf's culture has evolved to become more inclusive and reflective of broader social changes. CC Sabathia: "Golf is now accessible in ways it wasn't before." Angie Martinez: "I play anywhere, it doesn't matter, municipal or a country club."

5: Concluding Thoughts

Final thoughts on the personal impact of golf, its challenges, and its lessons. CC Sabathia: "Golf teaches you to stay calm and keep going, no matter what." Angie Martinez: "It's like walking meditation, helping me clear my head."

1. Engage fully in the moment: Focus solely on the task at hand to improve your golf game and reduce stress.
2. Choose your golf partners wisely: Companions can make or break your experience.
3. Embrace the mental challenge: Treat each shot as a separate opportunity, which can also help in daily life resilience.
4. Consider the culture of your golf environment: Whether a country club or a municipal course, each offers a unique experience that can enhance or detract from your enjoyment.
5. Use golf as a meditation tool: Allow the game to clear your mind and improve focus and presence.

We are Par 3 Podcast! J.R. Smith & Stephen Malbon are here to discuss: Unifyd Healing: Road To Recovery, Getting started playing golf during & after the pandemic, not being able to multitask while playing golf, choosing your friends wisely in golf, playing golf by yourself, getting tips as a new golfer, picking a side of a tee box to tee up on depending on the hole & shot, the importance of making bogeys, CC wishing he played while being in MLB, goals in golf, playing fast, playing Pebble Beach & The Preserve together, playing The Grove for The First Time, Dream Foursomes, Country Club Golf vs. Muni Golf, why they golf? & so much more. This episode is not to be missed!

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Speaker A
This episode of the part three podcast is brought to you by unified healing. I'd like to talk about recovery, but recovery in a different sense when it relates to golf. So when you hit one bad shot and you're out of place on the golf course, the most important thing to do is not let one mistake turn to two mistakes. Sometimes it might not be what the medicine you want to take, but it's what the doctor ordered. The best way to recover is get back out into the fairway, get it on the green. If you're in a bunker, the recovery is to get it on the green. You're only trying to do two things. One, you're trying to get it on the green, and two, you're trying to get it close. But in the sense of recovery, getting it on the green is the first start. So keep a positive attitude. Sometimes you gotta chip out, but believe me, you can still hit a great shot. Get it close and make par. So never forget that. Unified healing recovery to all park. Welcome park repodcast.

Speaker B
Let's fucking go.

Speaker A
Even Marvin.

Oh, my goodness. Let's get right into it.

Put us down for the birdie dog.

Somebody give me a fucking putter.

Poured the putter.

Speaker C
I had to make it.

Speaker D
Today. The guest on the show is Angie Martinez, New York Times bestseller, Radio hall of Fame and new golfer. And you have all star champion baseball player, hall of Fame, Yankees legend Cece Sabathia.

Speaker C
Yeah. And new golf.

Speaker B
There you go. And new golf.

Speaker D
Incredible golf.

Speaker C
We started playing golf at the same time.

Speaker D
No, that's a lie.

Speaker A
When Josh.

Speaker C
Well, maybe, like, when I started, before.

Speaker D
COVID I was after Covid.

Speaker C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker D
I wish I played during COVID That's, like, one of my big regrets.

Speaker B
But y'all are members here, though, so we members here. This is your home track. Like, I'm not gonna lie, this is my first time seeing it. Y'all got a great spot.

Speaker C
It's dope here.

Speaker D
It's dope here. You really gotta come on, like, a regular day.

Speaker B
Yeah, I definitely gotta come on a regular day. With the fair, like, the tree liner, you gotta hit good drives. And the second shots, you gotta hit good second shots in order to score.

Speaker C
It's a fair golf course. Like, if you hit good shots, you'll score. If you don't, you won't. You know what I'm saying? I mean, and if you can't putt, you won't score.

I mean, it makes it when you go play in other places, like, oh, I'm actually not that bad because playing here is tough.

Speaker D
I'm amazing when I go to other places.

Look at this little green, this flat green here.

Speaker A
This is amazing.

Speaker D
So, yeah, it's been good to play here.

Speaker B
So, Covid golfers, what's the. What do y'all think? Like, what was it about golf that you was just like, damn, this is it for me. Like, I'm.

Speaker C
I think for me. I mean, when I retired, I went to Dick's, I bought everything. I bought a tennis racket. I bought, like, a softball bat. I bought racquetball. I bought everything I did. I was, like, gonna try everything. And I picked up golf and came out here with my boy Steve Meehan, and I fell in love with it. It's just like pitching. It's one shot at a time. One pitch at a time. Don't matter what you did on the last shot. It's always looking forward to the next. So, like, having that mind frame of, like, being a pitcher for so long and then coming out here and going shot to shot, it's the same thing. So having my mind to be able to work like that, I just fell in love with it.

Speaker B
That's tough.

Speaker D
That's funny. I never thought about that. But that's like, radio, too. Cause it's like, in radio, it don't matter if I had a good show yesterday. Cause I had to show up today and the next day. So every day is kinda like, you have to be in the moment. You have to execute each time. You can't really live in something from the past. And that's pretty much like what this game is. It's like, you can't be in the last shot or the last game. You have to be present in that shot. It's probably one of the things, too, that I like about it. And also, it's like a. I don't know. To me, it's like. It's one of the few things I do where I'm not multitasking.

I can't multitask out here. I don't know how everybody does seven things. You know, our friends, our friends. If you're on a phone. The cigar. I mean, I get it. A cigar. But the cigar, the phone, the. This. I'm like, fam, how.

Speaker A
Put the ball.

Speaker D
Hit the ball.

Am I sorry I'm cursing on your podcast?

Speaker B
You are good.

Speaker D
You know what I mean?

Speaker B
100%.

Speaker D
So for me, I feel like it's like walking meditation almost. Cause I'm literally just doing this one thing, and really, nothing else in my life gives me that. I'm always, like, multitasking.

Speaker A
It's very hard to even think about anything else. Like, if you're in a bunker getting ready to hit a bunker shot, you can't think about, like, your kids or this or that thing happened yesterday, whatever. It's like, damn, I just gotta get out of this bunker.

Speaker D
Yeah. And every time I mess, like, if a call, I'm like, ooh, I really should take that. Every time I take the call, it all falls to shit. Every time. Immediately.

Speaker A
That's how I was kid around. My wife, she's just now starting to golfing, so she understands it. But, like, historically, every time she calls and I answer, it's like, what time you coming home? I'm like, you know, I just teed off.

I mean, figure it out. Like, three, 4 hours probably.

Speaker B
I'm not sure.

Speaker C
And then I hang up the phone.

Speaker A
Make a double bogey, and then finally she golf.

Speaker D
And you blame her. And you blame her.

Speaker A
Yeah, and, like, you know, when she's out there playing same thing. The phone rings, and I see her start going for it. I'm like, don't do it. Don't do it. Just don't even go in your email. You go in your email, you might be playing great. You go in your email, it's over. This damn game's so wild. You even get, like, if you at the halfway house, you get a little bite to eat, a drink, soda.

It could change everything.

Speaker C
Or it could bring you back.

Speaker A
It could bring you back.

Speaker C
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A
Absolutely.

Speaker C
Or even just like, I mean, when I first started playing, I mean, I. When I first started playing, just a second ago, like, one shot will bring you back.

Speaker A
Like, that eagle. That eagle you.

Speaker C
But even just, like, 18, I hit a good three wood, and I'm like, oh, I'll come back tomorrow. I'm back. You know what I'm saying? I want to feel that tomorrow, like, I'm back. Like, so it's just like that one shot that brings you back.

Speaker B
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I'm not gonna lie. Like, bro, I'm not just bringing anybody to the golf course. I'm not just bringing a homie, bro.

Speaker D
I'm so happy I'm a new golfer. I'm sorry. I'm like, you guys should come. You guys, come on.

After a few times, I'm like, why?

Why did I bring them here?

Speaker E
They're fucking my head up.

Speaker B
Especially when it's. That's your piece. Like, this is your piece. This is your zombie.

Speaker C
Yo, I gotta tell the story. Just. Cause, I mean, we all know it's our brother Peck. So I'm playing last year at Olympia Fields with Scottie Scheffler at the BMW. We tee off on one, and Peck is in the middle of the fairway on his FaceTime. Like, yo, I'm out here teeing off Scotty Sheffield right here. Scottie Shefford's looking at me, and I'm looking. I was like, I don't know who that is. Like, I was like, I kept walking.

Walk right by. He's in the middle of the fairway on, like, on Facetime, bro. Number one player in the world is right behind us. I was so embarrassed, dog.

Speaker D
Like, way to go, peck.

Way to go, Peck.

Speaker B
Peck. Is this cigar? I'm playing golf, but I'm not playing golf like the friend that loves to be at the golf course. But not playing golf.

Speaker C
Not playing golf.

Speaker B
There's a few of those, though. We all have a few of those, for sure. My brother is like that. He won a poster here at the golf course. But, like, bro, you played one and a half holes in 3 hours, bro.

Yeah, you got to look. You got to post to your golf shoes. Like, come on, bro.

Speaker D
I like going by myself. It's, like, one of my favorite things to do now. Cause I'm still learning and I'm still figuring out the game, so I need less noise. I don't need people over coaching me. Cause everybody wants to be like, oh, she's just a new golfer. Let's give her a 17.

Speaker A
Let's do this while she's up in her head.

Speaker D
Please let me figure this out and.

Speaker A
Figure this shit out.

Speaker D
So if I go by myself, I usually go, I'll play two balls, and I go by myself, and I'll try two different things or whatever. That has helped me get better pretty fast from last year to this year. I feel like I'm a way better golfer from doing that.

Speaker A
In getting better at golf, I was just showing her on the tee or telling her on the tee. Like, little things you learn is like, the difference between amateurs and pros. At least five, six, stroke is little things, like what side of the tee box you tee up on. Like, if you're gonna hit a slice, there's a side of the tee box that works for a cut, and there's a side that's a disaster for a cut. Or if you're gonna hit a draw. Or like, most amateurs, just step up, tee up in the middle, but it's like the middle doesn't work ever. You know, like, pros never tee up in the middle. They're either on the right side or the left side. And then it was telling her, like, I like to hit it like that, and I also like to hit it like this, but it's not that I like to. The course dictates what I have to do. So, like, the first hole here, you know, if I'm playing tomorrow, I'm gonna hit a draw. I'm right handed, I'm gonna hit a draw so it catches that hill and torpedoes forward, so I get the most distance. If I cut it into that hill, I could, and I can hit the fairway, but it's gonna hit the hill and stop, you know. So, like, that's what those pros are doing, is shaping the ball so much every time. Even down to the green, where, like, when they hit a bad shot, they're pissed that they hit it like five foot of the. To the left of the pen, because now they got a downhill putt. They wanna hit it five foot right of the pen. So they have an uphill putt. So it just starts to be like, you know, watching those pros, like, chipping and putting, it's like high, medium low on the chips.

And the pitches. Top spin, under spin, left spin, right spin, and then, like, you know, I was telling her, like, if you got a greens like this and you're pitching into it and you pitch into it with spin going that way, it's gonna hit and just spin almost off the green. So you gotta hit into a bank with the opposite spin, which will make the ball not roll all the way off the green. And if you don't have that shot, you can't keep it on the green. It's just impossible. So I think that's, like a thing or, like putting downhill, you putt with the toe of the putter, right? Just, like, little stuff that you can cut 510 strokes off. And Claude Harmon on the show, and Claude Harmon was on the show, he was talking about how when you're going, like, what is. You shoot 510 over. That's good for you. So if you want to shoot, if you want to drop five strokes, you have to make more bogeys, not more birdies. He was saying, because if you make more bogeys and less doubles and triples, you'll shoot two over, no problem. But everyone's like, oh, I gotta make more birdies. I gotta make more pars. Like, not really. You can make your birdies and pars. You're gonna. But you just have to make more.

Speaker C
Bogeys instead of doubles.

Speaker A
Instead of doubles. Like, even on the tour, guys, when they're, like, in fifth place and they make a bogey, it's okay. You can come back. You make a double. You go from fifth to, like, 18th, and then it's a hard fight back.

Speaker B
You know what I mean?

Speaker D
Nasty work.

Speaker B
Nasty work.

Speaker A
So making bogeys is actually how someone's gonna go from shooting 90 to shooting 80 by making more bogeys.

Speaker C
But I just feel like you're never gonna master the game, you know? Like, it's always stuff to work on.

Speaker D
Why I'm trying.

Speaker C
No, you can't. You go play forever.

Speaker D
Oh, God.

Speaker C
You play forever. Trying to figure it out, you know what I'm saying? As you change, stuff will change. Your game will change, and, I mean, it's just something that you'll be, like. We'll be able to enjoy and play all over the world forever. I wish I was playing it earlier. I should have been playing while I was pitching, man. Wasted so many good years. Like, walk around the country playing good courses. I could have been playing, but, oh, well, I can just do that now.

Speaker D
I wish I would have played Covid.

Speaker C
Yeah.

Speaker D
I live, you know, so close to a golf course. I could have been, like, you know, the whole time, I think I would have been away, right? I'm the only one on the planet. Started after Covid.

Speaker C
After Covid.

Speaker A
Yeah, I think that's right.

Speaker C
I think you're right.

Speaker D
Who does that?

Speaker C
Ride a bike or play golf? It was always, I went for walks with your wife.

Speaker D
Me and your wife went hiking, and I was here. And you were here. I wouldn't have known. I'd have left turn, came over here and played golf with you.

Speaker C
I was here.

Speaker B
Yeah.

That's hilarious.

Speaker A
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Speaker B
Wish all's goals. We talked about it earlier. One of your goals?

Speaker D
Well, I want to do eight. I'm in the nineties. I want to be in the eighties. I want to. That's my goal. That's just number wise. But also, like, when I'm working, always working on is. And what I love about this game is really, like a mental thing. It's really keeping your. And you guys, because you're professional athletes have already probably mastered that because, you know, when it's an important shot, important thing. You, you stay calm. You stay in the moment. Civilians, you know, when something like this, when the shot is on the line, we're like, oh, God. And so I've been really working to, like, not have the up and downs. Just kind of like, even if I have a bad shot, I take it as like, okay, this is the opportunity for me to hit it on the.

Learn how to hit it from over here, this, from this dirt here behind the rock. Today, I'm gonna learn how to do that. So I look at it that way to keep. To keep calm, and I think that's gonna help my golf game in the long run. So that's just something I'm working on. But number wise, I wanna drop about six. I wanna drop about six strokes in this year. Is that crazy? Is that.

Speaker A
No, make more bogeys.

Just eliminate those doubles. And.

Speaker D
And also, I think I'm gonna play less scrambles.

Speaker A
Scrambles are the worst.

Speaker C
Less scrambles. Scrambles are the worst.

They are.

Speaker B
What's yours, big fella?

Speaker C
I think my goals is just to continue to get better.

I mean, like she said, I mean, numbers wise, I went from, like, this time last year, I was 17, handicapped to ten.

So it'd be good to be, like, getting the single digits, like five or, you know, whatever. I mean, honestly, it don't really matter. I just want to be able to play golf with anybody and move to golf ball and not have a problem, you know what I'm saying? Like, if I can show up at a golf course and anybody's out there and I can hit a. Do whatever I want to do on a golf course, I'm fine. You know what I'm saying? So being able to enjoy this game and go on trips with my boys and really just move the ball around the course, any course, is my goal.

Speaker D
And play with anybody, that's how I feel. One of the first, when I first started playing. They invited me to play at Derek Jeter's tournament, and I played with Natalie Golbis and she LPGA player, and she said, she's like, you're too new. I mean, I was barely connecting with the ball. She's like, you're too new. I'm not gonna coach you. She said, but I'll give you one tip, and that's just move fast. Just play. Don't play slow, play fast. If you learn to keep a good pace, you can play with any player, no matter what. And it was the best advice for a new golfer because there's women here who are all single. I play with all the women here, all single digit. I play with people better than me.

Speaker A
All the time, and they love having.

Speaker D
It, and they have no problem with it, because I'm just as fast, if not faster, than them. I pick it up, I hit. I don't whine about it.

And so I think that's for new golfers. That's really important to be able to. Cause you said, like, I want to play, too, with people who are better than me in different places. I want to be able to play with my guy friends, and they're not like, oh, God, angel's slowing us up.

Speaker A
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker D
Because I don't want that. Because I like playing with people who are better than me. Because that's how I became stuff.

Speaker A
Like, score wise, no one actually cares at all what you should.

It's like, as long as you're quick and you're keeping up and you have a good attitude and good energy and such, it's like, I don't know what you shot. I could care less.

Speaker C
The other day we went to. I mean, we was at pebble last week. Whatever. A couple weeks ago or whatever. Last week? Last week, yeah, we played the preserve. That was the best round of golf that I played out there. We didn't keep a score. You know what I'm saying? Like, we just played.

Speaker A
You know what I mean? I don't really like to keep score. I just like to hit a good shot.

That's what I shot. Because if I shoot 72, 82, or 92, it really doesn't change anything at all. And even if I shoot 72 and I'm being that guy, I'm gonna be like, well, I missed three putts. I should have shot 69. And it's, like, constantly disappearing.

Speaker C
It's always, you leave something out there all the time.

Speaker B
All the time.

Speaker A
What if I hit, like, a perfect drive, perfect four iron, five foot read, the putt wrong. Miss the putt. And then I'm like, ah, you trash. You just missed the easy birdie putt. Boy, I did hit a good drive. I hit a great four iron.

Speaker B
I read the fucking wrong.

Speaker A
I read the putt wrong.

I'm not a. I'm not. Jason day put out something the other day. Said he putts for two and a half hours every day.

Speaker D
Wow.

Speaker A
And the dude goes in tournaments every single week and misses five foot putts. So, like, who are we? Like, I'm mad at myself. It's like, this shit is hard.

God damn.

Speaker C
It is.

Speaker A
You gotta get it all figured out. Speed has to meet the equal, the right line.

Speaker D
I'm playing the grove for the first time next week.

Do you have any advice for me?

Speaker C
Play fast.

Speaker D
Oh, yeah.

Speaker B
The carts is gonna be fast.

Speaker C
The carts is gonna be fast.

Speaker B
Be careful.

Speaker A
I waited for him.

Speaker C
It was raining.

Speaker A
We played in a fucking crazy storm, the two of us, in Sheffield. It was raining like crazy. And the windows were all fogged up and steamed up. And this shit running about 45. And the fairways are like this. And I knew I was going to flip the cart by myself. And you can't even make it go slow. The cart's one speed.

Wow.

Speaker C
It's going to be a good.

Speaker D
I heard the gift shop is fire.

Speaker A
Yeah, they got some joints. The clubhouse, all. That's great. The love.

Speaker B
The fairway. You can play well. All you gotta do is hit the fairway. Cause if you get in a fescue and all that, you're gonna be in trouble. It's gonna be a day.

Speaker D
Okay.

Speaker C
I actually wanna go back. I haven't been to the Grove back since. I've, like, actually been able to play some golf.

Speaker D
I'm excited.

Speaker C
Yeah.

Speaker A
Where else you playing? Down there.

Speaker D
That's it? Well, I'm doing. I'm playing at the Khaled's tournament.

Speaker A
And then the day after day after the day after.

Speaker B
Okay.

Speaker A
She was saying she was out at pebble. And she went from pebble to Atlanta for something else. And she was just there for one day. And it's hard as hell to get there or whatever. And she's like, what the hell? The hell was I doing? Yeah.

Speaker D
Why would I go to pebble and leave after one day? Like, my first time there? I was like, damn, I needed a few days here. I played myself, but I'll go back.

Speaker A
Yeah, it's there. It doesn't get any worse up there.

Speaker C
Pebble, man.

Speaker A
Yeah, it's a good one.

Speaker C
Definitely be back this year.

Speaker D
I play. Wish I was proud of myself.

Speaker A
Bring your wife and come out.

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Speaker B
Three what's your dream forso?

Speaker D
Oh, that's a good question.

Speaker C
You go first, man.

That's a great question.

Speaker D
Is tiger in everyone's.

Speaker C
That's in a lot of people's eyes. Gotta be tiger. And I would go, MJ, I think would be fun.

Speaker B
So you're going like six or seven in the group then?

Speaker C
Yeah, we're gonna be deep. You know who I played with? Rory at Bay Hill, and that was a lot of fun. So I think MJ, Rory, and that's pretty good.

You know who else I really like to play with, my boy is Aaron Hicks. Oh, yeah? Have you played with hicksy yet?

Speaker B
Mm mm.

Speaker C
Aaron Hicks. He used to be the center fielder for the Yankees. He just, just recently just got released. Play for the Angels. But he's one of my favorite players to golf with. He's a really good golfer, and he's the reason why I really started golfing. So that'll be my four, MJ, Rory, and Hicksie.

Speaker B
Okay.

Speaker D
I don't know. That's too hard. I don't know.

Us four, us four, us four. By the way, this would be a great day. This would be so much fun for me.

This would be a great day. We throw MJ and Tiger in there. You know, two of you on the nine. Two of you can go for food and drinks. Those two can pop in.

Speaker A
You know what I mean?

Speaker D
Like, that would be pretty great.

Speaker A
Been a long day. Perfect long day for a long drink. The finished long drink. Great for any summer day.

Cheers.

Speaker B
What was y'all, like, proper introduction into, like, the country club scene? Because, like, for one, a lot of us before we quote unquote, had money, we would have been playing immunis and stuff like that. But now, like, being able to come from where we come from and have the money and the access to the country clubs. What was the vibes been like since being involved in the sport of golf and the country club scene of it?

Speaker D
For me, I would say, honestly, it was Cece and his wife Amber. They do events here at Alpine every year. And even before I was golfing, I would just come to support them and be here. And then I started golfing was probably. I learned here, probably at your tournament. It was like one of the first couple of times I would start to play. So I was introduced to it that way. And then, I don't know, it just didn't seem so foreign, and so I felt comfortable. I didn't feel people were nice, and I felt.

I don't know, I just felt like I worked hard my whole life, so I have no guilt about spending the money. I felt like I don't need a g wagon. I'll be at the country club. It'll be a way of life, and it'll be fine. You know, like, I kind of balanced it as a. As a.

It's just something that I do for myself, something that I, you know, something that I invest in for quality of life.

And, yeah, it's been good for me, this club. And I don't. I think not all clubs are the same, but for me, there's a lot of women here. There's some diversity here, which is nice. And the women have been great to me. Like I said, there's women here who golf who are single digit handicaps, and they have no problem ringing me out at any time. And so for me, it's been great. But I also. I'll play anywhere. I don't play. I played in Compton, I played it in the Bronx. I played.

I'll play anywhere. Like, if there's a game, I'm free. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna play. I don't care. It's fine. I'll play wherever I think.

Speaker C
For me, like, being an athlete is an easy transition. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker D
Spoiled from a long time ago.

Speaker C
Yeah, it is. I mean, like, it's just what you used to, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B
100%.

Speaker C
Being drafted out of high school, like, you just always been used to being at stuff like this. So it was an easy transition. Honestly, I just. Honest, I didn't know, like, when I was playing, I didn't ever think I would play golf.

Speaker B
One.

Speaker C
And I just didn't think I was, like, a country club person. Cause I didn't think I was a golf guy. You know what I'm saying? But getting into golf, like, coming to the country club, this is an easy thing to do. Like, coming here every day, going to putt, eating here, hanging out, doing whatever it is. Yeah, this is like coming to the field for me, you know what I'm saying? Going, putting up shots, doing whatever.

Speaker B
Yeah, it is.

Speaker C
It's the same vibe.

Speaker D
So it's still funny. Like, in my family, my mother be like, you're at that country club. Like, get over it already.

It's funny to them.

Speaker B
Cause the same thing for sure. For me, back in the day, it's like everybody wanted to be Will Smith.

Nobody realized how cool Carlton was until now. Golf is, like, the thing, and nobody really want to hoop no more or play baseball like that.

Speaker D
People still want to hoop and play basketball.

Speaker B
Yeah, but, like, the new thing is, like, golf. Golf is, like, the new it thing for, like, I don't know. I look at a lot of the younger generation, and I just feel like they're way more hip to the golf scene than it is. Hoop, like, been on. When I was growing up, it wasn't really as accessible. So when you start seeing, it's just like, even with me, like, a lot of, like, the younger generation, like, yo, you play golf? All right, cool. I might try that. But, like, when we was growing up, it was like. It was tiger, and that was it.

Speaker C
That was it.

Speaker B
You couldn't see Cece Sabathia on the golf course. You could see Angie on the golf course. It wasn't no little girl in the Bronx looking like, you know what? I might play golf. Let me see what's up. Like, now.

Speaker D
Never in my mind, not even three years, four or five years ago, I'd be like, what? Absolutely not. It wasn't even something. We don't come from that. I didn't know anybody growing up that played golf. I never been around anybody who played.

Speaker C
Golf, and we didn't have access to, like, the celebrities or athletes that these kids or these people have now. You know what I'm saying? To know, like, I didn't know Bo Jackson played golf as a kid, or Michael. I mean, we knew Michael Jordan played golf, but not as much as he. We didn't know he was playing as much as he plays, you know? So for sure, it would have gave us a different perspective if we would have known, like, who was actually out, you know, accessing golf and, you know, we probably would start playing earlier. I know I probably would have.

Speaker B
It's funny.

We were going to pebble, and it was like one of the first times I've ever seen. It was like seeing Angie getting dropped off by her dude and her husband, and he was dropping her off to go on a golf trip with the fellas. It was just like going to the spot. It was like, bro, what is this? What does this happen in reverse?

Like, yeah, man, I gotta work.

I holler at boy. I see you pick me up. I was just like, babe. She was like, babe, if that was me, I was like, man, if you go on to Pebble beach, I'm going to Pebble beach.

Speaker D
I'm chief. Trying to get him. He just hasn't caught the bug. We've all tried.

Speaker C
We tried. I've been trying bad to get him.

Speaker D
He's cool with it, thank God. And most of the guys I golf with, he knows them. He'd be like, babe, you going to golf with the guys? I'm like, but the thing is, I think he really. He really sees how much I love it, and he sees, like, a different. He's like, you come home and you're so happy. Like, I think he's happy that I found something that I like doing so much.

Speaker A
Golf's wild on the happy tip. Like, so what you're trying to do out there, you're basically failing over and over and over and over, right? Like, you want to hit it over the lake and make it go from left to right. You fucking pull it in the tree, or you hit it fat and it goes in the lake. So you have so many disastrous failures during 4 hours of playing golf that when I get off the golf course, everything's easy. Golf so hard in the wind, this. It's like going home and being good to my kids and wife and cooking dinner and being happy is like, this is like a walk in the park compared to that shit I just did. That's fucking hard. Playing in the wind at Pebble beach.

Speaker B
It's like, sheesh.

Speaker A
After that, the whole day, it's like I'm on cruise control.

Speaker C
This is nothing.

Speaker B
You got that wine over there? You good? It's easy.

Speaker A
Everything.

Speaker C
Everything else is easy.

Speaker A
Make my bed in the morning. Everything's fine. At golf, you get out there and you start playing bad, getting your feelings. You gotta dig yourself out of it. Getting bad. Bounces, lipping out putts.

Speaker B
Listen to a bad caddy.

Speaker C
Listen to a bad caddy.

Speaker D
Caddies do get on my nerves sometimes.

Speaker B
Ooh wee.

I had it for a couple today. It's just a couple left to right. It's like, all right, cool, man. I jump broke, like, 4ft.

Speaker C
You gotta play here first to know the greens.

Speaker B
Really.

Speaker D
There's a couple of good caddies here, though, too, also. But, yeah, bad cat, he will mess up my day. And also. Cause like I said, because I'm new, when people over try to coach me, it just. And then I start going, it's too much. I can't do too much. Just tell me in the proximity of where you think the ball is it.

Speaker A
Gonna go, left or right?

Yeah.

Speaker B
Give me the distance. And that's it.

Speaker D
Yeah.

Speaker A
So today we've been asking our guests the same question, and I'd love to hear your guys's answer. So, Cece, why do you golf?

Speaker C
I think I golf because I love to play golf, and I don't golf for the competitiveness.

I'm not competitive out there.

I don't think people want to see me competitive again. When I'm competitive and I want to win, I'll do anything. I rip your fucking face off to win. I play golf because I really enjoy playing golf all over the world. You know what I'm saying? It's fun to me.

Speaker D
That wasn't.

Speaker C
What if I want to win? No, that's real, though. You know what I'm saying?

I don't have that anymore. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker D
He went there for one time.

Speaker A
He did. He got a saw in his eyes.

Speaker B
I'll tell you one thing, you have to be convinced. I want to be on his team. Like what?

Speaker C
Like, don't gamble if it's something to win. You want to be on my team?

But no, and that's not why I play. I play just to have fun, like. And I really, really enjoy, like, hitting good shots and, like, me, too.

And playing good golf courses. I really do love it.

Speaker D
I do, too. And I think there's an element to, like, I play it because, number one, like I said, it's the one thing I do where it's, like, my thing. And I'm not multitasking, I'm not playing against somebody else. I'm playing against myself. There's always something to learn. And also, if, like, I'm having, sometimes I do this if I'm having, like, the worst day or I hit the worst shot, like, I hit a bad shot over there and then I turned around and you just look at the course, it's just like, even a bad day out here, you're still outside. It's nature.

You're just calm. It's just a beautiful kind of experience. Even take the game away from it. Just being out here is beautiful. On the worst day, it's still dope to be out here for sure. And then on a good day, you actually challenged yourself. You learned how to do something, or, you know, you executed.

Speaker B
And, you know, y'all seem like y'all both like to walk more than ride.

Speaker C
I like to walk.

Speaker D
I like both. Depends. Depends what I did the night before.

Speaker B
I'm a walker, I gotta walk.

Speaker C
I like, really a walker.

Speaker B
I love to walk. I get a momentum. It's just like, like, I'm not in a rush.

Speaker C
It's just I never over swing when I'm walking.

Speaker B
Yeah, it keeps you calm.

Speaker D
Yeah, I do notice that, too. Like, if rushing, like, I played with some friends the other day, I brought my girlfriend out who she'd just only been out a few times as I was still. I'm still being nice to people. And I was like, yeah, sure, come. And she came like five minutes to my house before the tee time. So we're rushing over here. We're late.

Speaker A
Ah, to ruin you.

Speaker D
And then I got here, I was like.

Speaker C
You know, she's like, you can't.

Speaker D
Golf like, I can't golf like that. I need to calm my head down. I need at least 1520 minutes on the range. I need a little something, maybe a ginger ale or a cocktail or something. I need to, like, take my time, like you said, walk pace and all that. It's a mental thing. So, yeah, I hate being stressed out. I can't be stressed out before I come here.

Speaker C
You can't.

Speaker D
It doesn't work.

Doesn't work.

Speaker A
Well, thank you guys for coming on. It means the world to us.

Speaker D
Thank you.

Speaker B
Appreciate it.

Speaker D
Of course, you know, we could talk about golf. We could sit here for 3 hours all day.

You got the perfect podcast.

Speaker A
Me and junior are doing this. It's like, what do we got? When people were helping put it together, I'm like, we just gotta talk about golf. I'm like, no problem.

No scripting.

So why do you play golf?

Speaker B
That should be 3 hours, right?

Speaker A
On his own.

Speaker B
Don't let us start talking about clubs.

Speaker A
Jr's a club guy.

Speaker D
Oh God, I'm gonna need that at some point.

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Speaker A
What's that logo on your shirt?

Speaker B
You're wondering Motita Khan.

Speaker A
Oh, the jersey spot.

When you're in Jersey, that's all you wear is the jersey gloves.

Florida. He got a whole nother closet.

All new clubs, everything.

Speaker B
At my club though, I got all the shirts, the shorts, got the logos on and the belts. Everything. Amazing come through.

I gotta feel good and then play good.

Speaker C
Yes.

Speaker B
I got to for sure. If I don't feel good, I'm not gonna play good. Just don't work like that for me.

Speaker A
It's like being stressed out in the morning from your friend running late.

Speaker B
It's over.

Speaker A
Try again tomorrow.

Speaker C
The fit gotta be right. When the fit is right, I'm feeling good. No matter what, I'm good.

Speaker B
Birdie in the first home for show. I'm coming out.

Speaker C
I'm good.

Speaker A
Well, thanks, you guys. See y'all soon.

Speaker D
Thank you.

Speaker B
Appreciate it.

Speaker A
And that's another episode of the part three podcast. I'd like to thank long drink. I'd like to thank Lexus, Topgolf, unified healing prize picks, and Alpine country club. You guys are all the best.

Thank you all for following along, and we'll see you next week.

Speaker C
I played somewhere the other day at the first tee box. It said, play well, play fast. Yeah, that's fucking.

Have you played Olympic club in California? Yeah.

Speaker A
No, they have all that up there. Play well, play fast.

Speaker B
Something playing bad, play faster.

Speaker A
Yeah, playing bad, play faster.

Speaker C
Pick that shit up.

Speaker B
Let's go.

Speaker C
Pick that shit up.

Speaker B
345.

Get this shit over with 340.

Speaker D
I played here before, right?

Speaker B
No, this is my first time.

Speaker D
Oh, this is your first time? Oh, you gotta come on a regular day. Yeah, you gotta have him come down here.

Speaker B
I was supposed to come tomorrow, but I got my daughter in the morning.

Speaker D
Yeah, you got to come on a regular day.