Travis' New Ring, Father's Day Traditions and Justin Jefferson Got Paid

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Jason Kelce
We got a great episode for all you 92 percenters out there. We're going to be talking a little bit of Chiefs mini camp wide receiver market. Let's go. NFL tampering accusations. Ooh, we're not talking about.

Well, we actually, we are going to get into verdicts a little bit. Just, we're going to talk about the verdicts of these accusations. Anyways, we got a great show lined up for you guys as always. And we're going to start off first with something new. What's that?

A little bit of new news. I don't know how we got there. All right, new news. First. New news.

Happy Father's Day. We're a little bit late now. This episode is going to be coming out Wednesday, but we're recording this on Father's Day. Yeah, that's right. That's a nice Sunday morning record.

I figured, what else would I want to do on Father's Day, then? I mean, with all my boys on the podcast with Trav and intern, Brandon and Jets Jake. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds like a great.

A great morning. I feel like Father's Day in the US, everybody's like, barbecue. Hang out with your family. Dad gets to, like, not be dad. They kind of.

You're. You're kind of, like, still dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was looking at some of these other countries, and maybe what they do. I heard a really cool one from Germany, but, yeah, it turns out pretty much everybody just does what the US does.

Well, not that they're stealing from us. Is everybody kind of just like, hey, dad, we're just going to give you a bunch of meats that you like to eat and, uh, some cool foods and tell you we love you. And that's true for the United States. United Kingdom. Australia, New Zealand, Brazil.

Brazil celebrates Father's Day, uh, by family gatherings, special meals often featuring traditional brazilian dishes. Children give their father's gifts, and many families attend church services to honor and pray for their fathers, which we might have to start going to church because I need somebody praying for me. It's a day filled with warmth and gratitude, highlighting the strong, familiar bonds in brazilian culture. It doesn't sound that different. I guess the only difference, there's nothing.

Travis Kelce
Going on different down there in Brazil. Yeah, I guess people do go to church because it is a Sunday. So I guess church is a pretty heavily thing in the United States of Father's Day, right? If that's what you do, if that's what you're into. Yeah, this is the cool one.

Jason Kelce
Germany. I don't even know if I want to list this one next. I want to save the best for last. Fuck it. It's in the list.

Germany is a unique way of celebrating Father's Day, known as Watner tag or meinertag. I don't know if I'm pronouncing either of those right in parentheses. That means men's day. It's celebrated on Ascension day, which is the 40th day of Easter and falls on a Thursday. Traditionally, groups of men go on hiking trips, often pulling wagons filled with beer, wine, and food.

While it's a day for men to enjoy camaraderie and the outdoors, it is also a family day for those who prefer to celebrate with their children and loved ones. I think that's a badass way to celebrate Father's Day. You just load up a wagon with fucking meats and beer and see you guys later. Just wander into the woods, cup of tea? Yeah, that sounds great, doesn't it?

Travis Kelce
Yeah, until there's bears. We take some bear spray with you, you'll be alright. Oh, yeah, nice. Good point. Wander off into the woods with your buddies.

Jason Kelce
Who knows what happens. Nobody's gonna ask questions. It's men's Day. What about just like wander into the local pub? Yeah, it's not a bad idea either.

Travis Kelce
That way you can just. You can still be, you know, around. You don't have to just wander off into the woods. I don't know, there's something manly about going off into the woods with a wagon of beer and meat. Why don't you just drive your tesla into the woods?

Jason Kelce
That's because it's not manly. It's not as manly as having a wagon. All right, great. Great tradition. Germany, Thailand.

Father's Day in Thailand is celebrated on December 5. This is late, but I guess in the southern hemisphere it's probably roughly the same. It's a day to honor both the king and fathers across the country. Traditionally, children present their fathers with canna lilies, a symbol of masculinity, and perform acts of respect such as kneeling at their feet. So I'm kind of on this tradition.

Many families also participate in community service activities to honor the king's legacy of kindness and generosity. So I'm out on honoring kings because I fuck. Listen, we're Americans. We don't do royalty. So fuck kings.

But I wouldn't mind Kylie kneeling at my feet, you know, I mean, this. Is Father's day, not fuck kings, but just not into it. Also, why are you into people kneeling at your trying to respect it's Father's. Day, maybe feed me some grapes. You can't be out on kings and in on people bowing.

I'm not into any people bowing. I mean, to my children bowing to me. Show me respect, God damn it. But why? Why is bowing at your feet a sign of respect?

I'm not bowing on my feet. Kneeling at my feet and preferably can feed me. Great. At your feet are a sign of respect. I don't know.

In Thailand, that's what they say. I want them to kneel at my unwashed feet and smell the aromas into what their leaders sent is protruding. So the next time they think about questioning whether it's bedtime or not, they know. I just put my feet up and they're like, oh, gosh, I know what that aroma means. It means it's bedtime.

Travis Kelce
Yeah, it's definitely bedtime for that. All right, wash your fucking feet. What else we got? Yeah. So Father's Day's going great.

Jason Kelce
When's uncle's day? Do we know? Damn. We need to get on top of that. When is Uncle's day?

Oh, and National Uncle's day is. Is Friday, July 26. Oh, shit. It's coming up. You'll be in Min.

You'll be in training camp. I will be. What does one do on uncle's day besides call their uncle? I think that is as far as it ever needs to go. Hmm.

We'll see.

Maybe we can do something nice for uncle's day this year. Uncle Don deserves it. Uncle Don deserves it more than anybody. He's the greatest uncle to ever fucking. He is.

He is. And I was just with him on a seven birthday last weekend, actually. All right, let's keep it going. What we got? Ooh, we got some fun.

Travis Kelce
Beer bowl submissions. That's right. Beer bowl submissions are closed. Thank you, everyone, for submitting your beer bowl submissions. We have a ton of outstanding, deserving contestants, and it's going to be tough to narrow this one down.

Jason Kelce
We do have, I guess we should call it, controversial video. We have some big names that are interested in getting involved in beer bowl now, and we are running into the dilemma of, do we keep the beer bowl unique to everyday people, or do we allow influencers, former NFL players, media superstars, into beer bowl? Is the question. Yes. So we'll show this clip.

Here's a clip of two of our good friends, Ross Tucker and our former college teammate and my former NFL teammate and friend, Connor Barwood, try to team up and enter beer bowl. Let's see what it looks like. It's Ross Tucker, and I need this. I've been retired for 16 years now at this point, Jason, you'll find out soon. Travis, a little bit longer down the line.

Travis Kelce
This is my only competitive outlet. Beer bowls, beer games, whatever it is. Is it just my friends and I in my garage? Yeah, but who cares? I also, by the way, won the remote competition during the quarantine via Zoom solo.

People from my hometown have proven to be excellent chuggers on the world's biggest stage. Please give me a chance. My partner is your former teammate. In college and the NFL. Jason and our team name.

It's the has been. Oh, yeah. Guys, one more thing. Even though I am a Labat blue guy, I am already prepping for what I'm anticipating the beer be at the beer bowl. It's delicious, by the way.

Jason Kelce
Dude, that's a hell of a video. Hell of a video. Damn it, man. When you. When you send in a video like that, dude, you can't not love Ross, man.

What a guy. Fuck. And now I want to play beer pong with him. I, uh. He was.

Travis Kelce
He's always been a great dude. I've obviously, I've known him as a football player growing up, but him being in the media and everything now, it's been cool to kind of have combos here and there with a man, but this is awesome, man, for him to even send in a video and be a part of it. And clearly, they have the drinking prowess you saw from. From the trophy he was holding, which is obviously only him and his friends. But that's.

Jason Kelce
I mean, that's a. That's good enough. Connor Barwin and I think, are undefeated in beer bowl. You know this, Travis, man, we are a dynamic beer bowl. Beer pong.

Not as much, but beer. Beer ball. Beer ball. Sorry. You.

Travis Kelce
You are probably. You are probably the number one beer ball player I've ever seen in my life. I haven't seen a lot of beerball, but that was your fucking game. That was it. I got the technique down.

It's impressive. This is the question. Do we limit it to regular, everyday people, or do we include, um, superstars? Let's just call it what it is. Ross Tucker and Connor Brown are superstars.

I think it's unfair if we don't, and I think it's unfair if we do.

That's such a good question. I think it's. I think it's fun if it's just the 92 percentage, but I do think it's fun if we have some sort of, like, one off. Like, oh, if Ross and Conor are, like, in on this thing, like, maybe you have to compete against them in a contest. I think Jason kind of proved that, that NFL drinkers outweighing regular, like, civil.

Jason Kelce
It's weight classes. It's weight classes. That's what I'm saying. Talk about this with Bruce Lee. And we did.

Travis Kelce
But some. Some guys can just drink. Like, the. Like, I feel like that argument is, like, combated with the person that just won the hot dog eating contesting contest. Like, we're going class in that regard.

Isn't that because it's always the skinnier person that wins those events. I mean, this is essentially what we're doing to. You have the Olympics hat on your head. The Olympics used to be only for amateur athletes. Yeah.

Yeah. Not professionals were not allowed to participate. Ross, a la bat blue guy, is a professional beer drinker. Right. Professional.

Jason Kelce
Can we open it to professional drinkers, or do we leave it a simply amateur event that celebrates drinkers across this country, mainly in Philadelphia and Kansas City, are probably the biggest two contributors, but we'll say across the country, that's pretty. It's pretty national. Now, having a guy like Ross and Connor, even at the event, would be amazing to have him in. It would be electric. But those are two massive human beings, or at least they were at one point.

So it's like they're still bigger than most. They're still bigger than most. I think Connor's around 230. I think Ross maybe might be. He's around that, too.

Maybe a little less. A little more. I don't know. He's. They fluctuate in that, like, lighter, tight end bodies.

Travis Kelce
Now what are you. You a heavier tight end right now or what? I mean, I'm 270. I've been 270. Now 275 and 280 is what I've been fluctuating between.

You gotta get it down, coach. You gotta get it done. I'm good. I'm feeling pretty good. No, I just saw you run a five k.

You need to get that thing down. I'm still 295 when I trained that. I hadn't started the diet yet. All right. There's some way we can incorporate Big Ross and Connor into the games.

Jason Kelce
I think it is. Also, we'll find a way to incorporate everybody, though, because it's easy. It's all just about having fun. Yeah. But, hey, Ross.

Travis Kelce
Unbelievable video. Thank you. That fucking made my day. For those of you that submitted your entries, we just want to thank you. Obviously, the beer bowl doesn't exist without you.

Yeah. So I think it's. I think it's about time. We should probably tell the 92 percenters the truth of the beer bowl. Unfortunately, I will not be attending.

Jason Kelce
Yeah. This year. Yeah. Yeah. I love United super centers, but I got a lot of shit I'm doing right now.

Travis Kelce
And unfortunately, when we kind of timed up this. This calendar, I wasn't aware that we were going to do the beer bowl this weekend, which always attached to the Eagles autism. It's always the last one. It's the Wednesday before July 4, but that's fine. It's fun.

Yeah. Because everybody knows that. And that means that I scheduled some things that I can't necessarily back out of. So I'm telling you guys this. That Jason will be there.

Obviously. He's always there, but there will be. There will be another Kelsey stepping up in my place that honestly will probably be ten times better than any episode or any beer bowl that ever comes around again. And they will probably take my place on new heights forever. So, Kylie, Kelsey will be hosting beer bowl with Jason down at the shore.

And, Kylie, you can't back out. I just said this. I don't even know, know if you're. Available, but if you are, not a bad idea. Have you.

Jason Kelce
Have you talked about. It would be. No, I'm just. I think this would be awesome. I'm just throwing it out there because I can't.

Travis Kelce
I can't go. So this is my way of making things better and just. You got it, Kai.

You got it. All right. We'll see. Maybe she'll do it. I don't know.

Jason Kelce
She's not a. Yeah, she would definitely be great at it. We got to get this thing live stream so I can. I can watch it as. As this thing goes down.

Maybe I ask her today on father's day. She can't say no on Father's day.

Travis Kelce
Just ask. Just tell Wyatt to ask her. That's the way to go. All right, I'll get on that. I need Wyatt to pull a favor for me, but I wish I was.

I wish I was there. Obviously, from now on, I'll never schedule anything on a Wednesday before July 4 ever again. Love you. 92% is. But I know you guys will have absolute blast with it without me.

And somebody's walking away with $50,000. There we go. In a gold cup. Yeah. If you submitted your video and you don't get in, just blame intern Brandon.

Jason Kelce
That's. It's all his fault. All right, now let's move on to fan mentions of the week. Jason has to race a dog. That's right.

Travis Kelce
He's talking shit about those little tiny leg animals. Last week, the little wiener dogs. And Tanya Morrow, our crown royal raise a glass winner from last week, called Jason out on Twitter. That's right. What an honor to be mentioned on the podcast challenge question mark.

How about a race between Jason, Kelsey, and her dog Louie? Let's see if you can outrun those tiny legs and endless energy. Make it happen in Texas or Philly. So she's. She's down to travel with that little thing, those little dash hounds.

Dash hounds. The old dash hound derby guy. I think. I think it is dachshund. I don't know why I didn't know if there was, like, a different way these things were spelled.

Jason Kelce
But, yeah, dachshund. Everybody pointed that out to me on Twitter last week. First of all, I'll beat the fuck out of Louie. Very calmly.

How far are we racing? Let me see this thing.

I am murdering that thing. I'm murdering it, dude. Let's go. Let's do it. 40 yards.

How far are we going? He's happy. Was. That was maybe 15 yards right there. I know, but it's got to be at 15 yards.

It might be able to keep up anything over ten yard. 15. I think I've beaten it. 15. It's got a good.

Get off. Anything with short legs. Short, little, stubby legs. It's gonna have a little quick. Little quick get off.

Travis Kelce
That's why you were. You're. That's like me versus you, really. You're the docs. So you think.

You think you can beat it in, like, a 20 yard 15? What about a ten? I mean, I think I'll beat it in anything because I just think I'm faster than Louie. But I think a 20. I think 20 yards feels about right.

15. We got to go. 1515 has a chance is what you're saying. So we need to give it a chance. Why do we have to give it a chance?

Because you're a fucking human. What does that have to do with anything? Why does the dog get to determine the length of the race? Because I don't want it to just be you beating a dog. I want it to be a fucking good race.

Jason Kelce
Okay. Well, as humans, what do we determine as being the fastest human on the planet? Hussein boat. Yeah. 100 meters.

So why would we go to 15 yards? That's not the fastest. That's not. You're not even getting the top end speed. At 15 yards, top end speed is reached, like.

Well, it's close to 1515. To 20 yards is like, really when you're at your max. Yeah. So, like, what are we if we're never hitting the top end speed? We're not even.

We're just seeing who has a faster. Get off because it has to. It has to be. It has to be the top end speed for a dachshund, too. Well, dachshunds are reaching top end, wake faster.

Travis Kelce
That's what I'm saying. I don't. But if it gets to go to top end and I never get to go to my top end. How the heck is that? Seeing which one's faster because it's 15 yards.

Jason Kelce
I think it's gotta be further than 15. I think 15 is a perfect number. We're gonna do another Twitter poll. We're gonna let 90% of the term this races. We're gonna do either 15 at the Dachshund race.

Travis Kelce
Whatever we just watched on that video right there. Whatever that. I think you're right. It looked about 15 yards. It looked about 1515 to 20.

It might have been 20. Well, let's say this. We'll do 20 yards. The dachshund's race was 20 yards. The international football race is 40 yards.

Jason Kelce
And the third choice will be 100 yards, even though it's 100 meters were american. So we'll do 100 yards. So those are the three choices. Twitter. You guys can decide how far I'm racing this dachshund.

It's definitely going to have to happen in philly because I'm not going to Texas to raise a dachshund. You're going to fucking smoke this dog? Of course. I am going to put my cleats on, and I'm going to freakin dust this thing. Little short, stumpy legs.

The best time to do this might be during the shore week. Maybe this is something we can do as a attachment to the festivities down the shore. There you go. Dachshund race. Challenge accepted.

Travis Kelce
Coach Morrow, nice final mention of this week. Jason started shit on Twitter yet again. He's. Yes, you are a pro at doing this. You've actually been a pro for a long, long time.

Stepped away from Twitter because it got a little too wild, and now you're back at it. You're back at it. You're stirring the pot. We're here. There's a lot of xenon fans out there who are not happy.

Jason said the movie sucked. I didn't say it sucked. I just said next and then admitted. To never even see.

Jason Kelce
I'm going to be honest. The only thing I know about Xenon is this picture that they put on the rundown, which is right here, we'll show right now. I judge the movie solely off of that picture, and I feel strong in that judgment. There's no way that's a good movie. Actually a decent.

Travis Kelce
It's actually pretty. You remember this? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. It was, like, in, like, a spaceship and everything. I hope I'm right.

I could be wrong, but, I mean. Based on the picture, it looks like a spaceship movie. So you liked it. I remember not hating it. What?

Jason Kelce
Do you remember the plot? Nope. I really don't even remember the plot. Of brink break, team puppin suds. Gosh, what was.

There's, like, another group, the, like, the elitist kids. And team pupp and sub is like, the ragtag group of, like, just friends versus global. They're basically saying, like, you should compete for love of sport and your friends and community, as opposed to, like, selling out to, like, big conglomerates and be all just about winning. It's not what the media, sports is. I think that's essentially what brings about Zenon, girl of the 21st century.

I just. I think there's a 0% chance I like this movie, but I do feel a little bit responsible to at least view it. So I guess. I guess I'll watch this. I'll probably watch it with Wyatt.

I think Wyatt might like it. Nice. Yeah, maybe that's what I do for others. Xenon, girl of the 21st century. With.

With why? With baby why? Let's see what y thinks of it. All right. We're gonna give it.

We're gonna give it a gander, and I'll get back to you on whether it's good or bad. But, I mean, I just think based on the COVID there's a 0% chance. You gotta erase it. Don't even look at the COVID Don't even erase that whole negative thought process. They're, like, in full pink, like, tight jumpsuits.

I don't even know what that is. It's the 21st century, Jason. Jesus. We're in the 21st century. 92 percenters.

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Travis Kelce
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Jason Kelce
You know what I mean? Kind of just like, make us feel like, oh, you're nestled in. Go to sleep, kid. Nice. All right.

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Travis Kelce
We're a football podcast. That's right. Are we? We're footballers, Jason. Not so much anymore, but once a footballer, always a footballer.

Believe it. And yeah, maybe we talk a little Chiefs minicamp because that's over. Yeah. That just ended last weekend. It's fun.

It was always fun. Do a couple days of competing and then run a quick conditioning test. Or at least get introduced to what the conditioning test might be at training camp. What is your guys conditioning test? It initially was half gassers.

15. Yeah, 15. Half gassers. 15 is a lot. Yeah, it's a lot of running.

It is. It's really not much when you think about it. Like you should be able to do 15. I mean, they're all timed. They're all timed.

Jason Kelce
So I guess we'll say conditioning tests are really there for the most part. Not to see if you're in shape. It's more to see if they're worried that you're going to die and it's more of a liability thing for the teams. They just want to make sure you haven't done nothing and that you won't have a heat stroke out on the field. This is a good point.

Travis Kelce
This is a good point. So 15 is a good test. It's not that much. You're crazy, but it's a lot. You wouldn't be able to go out there and run 15.

First of all, I'm an offensive 20 seconds. Yeah, you would. I could do it, but I'm also an offensive lineman. They don't make me do it. That was the one nice thing about being the lightest offensive lineman.

Jason Kelce
I just had to do the offensive lineman conditioning test, which is usually less than what the other guy or at least slower time. So I'm like coast, not Nadi Reeds camp. I would always just try and win all of them on purpose, though. It was all we did. A striders for the most part.

Travis Kelce
That's not conditioning. The last few years we had 60 yard shuttles incorporated into it. I'm actually better on the shuttles because you know me, I'm good at turns. I know how to turn great. Turner said, hockey, dude, I'm telling you, it's hockey.

This guy can bend. Hockey stops because you got. When you stop in hockey, you know how to use both feet. You know how to use both feet when you're turning. And I feel like most people that just run, you only think about using your outside foot and it's just not how it happens.

Well, a lot of guys believe it or not. Don't have the ankle flexion to get that inside foot at the right angle. Is that what you think it is? I just think it's because they've never. Been talking about Gumby and how I'm always able to move around this.

Good ankle flexion. Yeah. My knees and ankles are underneath me. I think the ankle flexion is part of. I think hip flexibility is, too.

Jason Kelce
Like, being able to sink your hips into a turn properly and not have to, like, bend at the waist. Yeah. I think also it's the hockey. Most hockey players I know use both legs when stopping and turning more efficiently than people that never skated. But either way.

Yeah. We had, like, 6 seconds to run 40 yards for our conditioning test. It was a joke. I would still run them full speed, though. God, I should have played off with the flying.

Oh, should we say what a half gasser is? It's across the field. It's sidelined to sideline, which. Which essentially is 50 yards and back. Yeah.

Travis Kelce
52.5, I think. Yeah, it's a little bit over. I didn't want to. It's something like that. Yeah.

Jason Kelce
Across the field, back. The turn really sets it. Like, if you just ran 100 yards, it'd be like coaster. But that turn halfway through is. It's like, stop stopping and have after, like, 1010 sec.

Travis Kelce
Like the. Not 10 seconds. Well, essentially, it is 10 seconds to go down and back, but 10 seconds there, 10 seconds back. I'm getting way too into this. All right, so a half gasser is down and back, and my group, the, like, middle skill, like the lineback, they.

Jason Kelce
Call them big skill. There you go. Big skill. Tight ends, running backs, quarterbacks. The running backers.

Travis Kelce
Running backs are skill. Are they? Yeah. So linebackers. All right.

Yeah. Linebackers, tight ends, quarterbacks. What about outside backers? Those are big. No, those are.

Jason Kelce
Those are big guys. Backers or backers. Backers or backers. Yep. And then specialist.

Travis Kelce
Specialists are with us. Got it? Yeah, we run 18 seconds down and back. You got to make it across the line in 18 seconds. I mean, it's.

Jason Kelce
It's a brisk. It's a brisk pace. You do that 15 times. After about eight, that's really when it sets in. That's when you start.

Travis Kelce
That's when your mind starts to kind of go like, man, I wish I had a fucking. Would have ran a little bit more.

Wish I would have fucking. God damn it. It's really like, there's. There's the first two where the first two is like, God, I got to get geared up here. Then after two, you're like, all right.

Jason Kelce
Huh? I'm coast, and I got this shit in the bag. And then right around eight or ten, you're like, goddamn, I got fucking six more of these motherfuckers. Just one at a time. Just one at a time.

Deep rest. Stand up big, catch the air up high. Don't bend over. Yep. And then you got to get out of that turn, though.

Travis Kelce
You got to hit that. You got to hit that line, and you got to get out of that turn. Get a good five, five to six steps of just a quick burst, and then you can just stride that thing out from that point on. The key to the half gasser is the start and the turn. Get out to a good start.

Jason Kelce
Coast, good turn. Coast. You try and run that whole thing full speed, you're. You're not making 15. Yeah.

If you don't run it fast enough, you're out after one. You got to redo it again tomorrow. I can hate to see it. No tap out. Source.

Mini camp was good, though. You guys got a lot accomplished. You guys also had a bunch of rookies in camp, a lot of rookie receivers. You had some draft pick, tight end. That's right.

Jared Wiley. Yeah, Jared. Jy, you had a quote on the 2024 4th round pick. He's got a big upside. Comfortable, smart guy.

He's a lot further along than I was as a rookie. That's. Yeah, that's a lot. What? Yeah.

What do you mean, further along? I guess when I was coming in, I kind of had to, like, rethink this after I said it after the interview, and it's just word. I have a completely different offense. I had a completely different offense when I came in than he did. And I think my skillset, obviously, is for this type of offense that I'm in now, more so than, you know, the run first type offense that we had with Jamal Charles when I first got into the league.

Travis Kelce
And that being said, I see a lot in Wiley, Jared, that suits this offense way better than I suited the offense that I was in when I first got here. And that's kind of. That's kind of how I, like, I initially feel. I'm like, man, he's light years. He's making way more plays.

He's, you know what I mean? He's way more comfortable in how he's, like, running routes, how he's seeing the field. And I think that's a test to, you know, how smart he is. And I think it's. He's got a good feel of, like, feeling voids and being open.

And then on top of that, you put the ball anywhere in his vicinity. He's making the catch. He's got great hands. He's a big guy. He's go up and catch the ball over his head.

That is, if you throw him a jump ball, he can go and get it. If you throw it on the ground or by his toes, he can go and get it. So you just see a lot of upside and a lot of opportunities for him to at least be accountable in the receiving game. And then we'll slowly start to find out when we got pads on, everything you could do in the run game and on the perimeter in terms of blocking and really turn them into a swiss army knife like the tight end position is used. Absolutely.

Jason Kelce
You guys also have Pat Mahome trying to learn a knuckleball, which, let's be honest, if he's trying to learn a knuckleball, this has nothing to do with being a better quarterback because nobody wants to catch that. He just, I think, got inspired by watching the Padres. Waldron, dude, who has a nice one, apparently. Yeah, this is him throwing one, which, this is why it's fun doing stupid stuff like this. Right?

Gotta remember, you're still out there playing a game. Yeah. You got to keep it light hearted, all right? Doing shit like this is always a good time. Throwing back, throwing behind the back passes, doing a whole bunch of just stuff you would in the backyard, playing in the play with your boys as a.

Kid, you know, do you think defense coordinators are seeing this and, like, wondering if they have to? Nobody and Pat wouldn't even think about throwing a knuckleball on purpose. There's sometimes there's a few of them. Yeah. And if you, if you throw it with the right spin rate wind to it, it'll knuckle on you a little bit now.

Travis Kelce
And that way it turns from this catch. It just turns to, like, get it to the body. Find a way to get it to the body. Dude, I was running a little like ten yard out route in warm ups before the fourth preseason game. Cause I was bored.

Jason Kelce
One year when Carson was a quarterback, he threw a ball and, dude, I don't killing it. Minne K, by the way. Keep going. Nice. I don't know if it's the spin it had or if what you're saying the wind kind of was taking it, but it felt like that thing was like, it wasn't like it was like a full knuckle, like moving all over.

It just was like, almost like it. Had a little, like, snake weave to it. It had such a vicious spiral that it was like, almost, like, wobbling as it was coming to me, if that makes sense. Yeah, that's 100%. Pat has that ball.

Travis Kelce
He has the splitter. He has just the nosedive. Sometimes it'll just fucking dive on you. Do you know the moment it's like in the air. Which one it is potentially, or is the wind the.

Jason Kelce
The dynamic? No, no. You can tell. You can tell sometimes how it comes off the hand that it's going to be just a little bit funky. It's like, oh, I'm not going to go with this with just my hands.

I'm going to go with this with my body because it's a little bit more of a wild card. Yeah. And the hard ones are the ones where it's like a timing throw and you don't necessarily see it coming out of his hand. You see it, like, halfway to you. Already coming to you.

Yeah. And you just got to kind of. Like, just got to make it right. Another big thing at minicamp was our man, Chris Jones, friend of the show, had some outstanding. Stone cold Jones.

Stone cold Jones. Double birding it. Kids, don't go out here double birding your teachers, adults. You can. You can double bird your friends.

Travis Kelce
That's fun. It's got to be the right situation. Don't double bird any strangers. It's not cool, man. Well, I mean, if they deserve it, they deserve it, but let's reserve it for deserving people.

Jason Kelce
Don't just whip them out out of nowhere. I mean, you can't.

Chris Jones on the Chiefs bringing back the entire defensive line. They graded my owner an f. I got two middle fingers for them. He's an a plus of my book. The funniest part about this is he is double burning his friends.

He's double burning all of his teammates. Damn. That wasn't NFL. Paul. That's pretty good.

I love it. I think it's great. It's also good that Chris is now back in good graces after the holdout from last year. Obviously, things are going great with the defensive line, and it seems like everybody with the Chiefs, everybody's happy with their current situation. It seems everybody is.

Travis Kelce
And everybody was happy last year. Obviously, we wit, Chris probably wished it played out a little bit different, but we're. It worked out well. He won a Super bowl and got his contracts. Fine.

Exactly. Everybody was still excited to go to work every single day. Like, I hope everyone knows that it was business. You know, Chris is a guy that when he's in the building, he's the best player that you can have on your team. And that's why we love him, man.

Jason Kelce
Well, he was also asked about retirement, and he said, once you begin thinking about things like that, you get into feed the mind those types of thoughts. He said, I don't even want to take my mind to go that far to the r word. We've got more years. I don't know, though. Travis is pretty fucking old, so.

Travis Kelce
Hi, Krista. I'm only like three years older than you, man. Oh, goodness. Yeah. Do you have any responses to Chris other than you guys are pretty much the same age?

No, we're not the same age. I'm three years. That's a lot of years. Three years in just, like, football world, I think you'll be 35 this year. So Chris is 32, 31?

No, Chris isn't even 30, I don't think. Oh, so he's. You're quite a bit older than him. Yeah, I'm probably five or six years older than him, but, like, I have three more years in the NFL over him, I think, which means I stayed longer in college. I don't know.

I'm with them on the. I don't really even think about it until somebody asked me about it. Yeah, so you're forced to think about it.

Jason Kelce
Let's be honest. You think about it sometimes during really hard times of your body. You're like, man, how much longer can I do this? But it's in more. So it's not like a legitimate thought?

Travis Kelce
Yeah, it's a thought that's like, I love playing this game at the highest level possible, and I love playing at it at a level where I know I can have a bunch of success. I know I can still go out there and moss a dude in the end zone. I know I can go out there and catch a flat route and turn it into a 1520 yard gain and make it. Make a few guys miss the moment that I can't do that. I think that's when I'm just going to be like, all right, what am I doing this for?

Like, I get excitement out of catching a ball, splitting a bunch of defenders, and getting a huge first down when I was, you know, nobody expected me to do it, you know, or I scored a huge touchdown in a playoff game in the fourth quarter when the team needed it the most. You know what I mean? The moment that I can't do that and I'm only. And I'm playing it at an average or a less of a successful, like, level that I am right now. I think that's what I'm probably going to call it quits.

Jason Kelce
I mean, this is ultimately what ended up being why I chose this to play. I just don't think I could play it at the level that I used to play it at, even though people might disagree with that. I know it because I remember being out there last year and not being able to execute it the way I wanted to. But I think he also talked about, like, the r word and people starting to think about retirement. I do think I've heard this before.

Like, the moment you start thinking about retirement, you're already retired or whatever. I was thinking about retirement four years ago, and I played for four years, so I'm not buying that bullshit. I think if you're even remotely being honest with yourself, people start thinking about this in the league later in their career when it gets harder to continue doing it. And your body, you're fighting your body more and more to continue doing it. I was fighting my body the first year I got in the league.

Yeah. Yeah. Fighting my body is just a part of the game. That's not what's going to chase me out of the National Football League part of it. I think you were very fortunate that you were able to go out on your terms.

Travis Kelce
And that's the goal. That's the goal. If I can go out on my terms and not have something happen to my body, like a big time injury to where I have to step away, that's the biggest goal in football, to be able to do it on my terms. Yeah. And I'm not.

Jason Kelce
There's two parts of fighting, everybody. There's a fight in the body to, like, get it ready to play or to, like, deal with pain and stuff like that. That's actually not the kind I'm thinking about. That's like, you'll find this, and this is when you're gonna start knowing. It's whenever this time comes that you need to walk away.

It's the fighting your body to, like, you used to be able to do something that, like, you can't do anymore. And, like, that's when it's like you're fighting that to continue to get that back. And I think that's when it's like, you know, you, it starts to just become hard. So I think, bottom line is everybody knows when it's time for them. For the most part.

I mean, I guess some guys come back, actually. A lot of guys come back. But I also think part of that's because your body starts feeling really good when you're retired. But it's pretty, pretty amazing when you're not playing football, how much better you feel. So, yeah, everybody will know when it's time for them.

Chris Jones says you're playing six more years. So you'd be 40. You'd be 40 going on 41. I think I'd just be going on 40. No, you'd be going on 41 because you're going on 35 right now.

Travis Kelce
40. You be 40. So I turn 35 this year. That's a year. Yep.

36 next year. 37 year after that. 38 year after that. 39 year after that. Nice.

Jason Kelce
You're right. I know. Well done. I know. I'm.

Travis Kelce
Listen, I'm. Math genius is my shit, man. You gotta use the finger, rain, man. You. You fucking put me on a roulette table, I will fucking make it rain.

Jason Kelce
Good job. Good job.

Travis Kelce
He was blackjack, too. He was actually doing real math. I just do. Speaking into existence math. All right, here we go.

Keep this thing moving. Last bit of Chiefs news. We got our Super bowl rings, and it was a fucking unbelievable night. Congratulations. And the ceremony was broadcast live everywhere across the globe.

If you haven't caught wind of who all was watching. Nice. There we go. It was a fun evening. It's always good to see, you know, teammates that.

That aren't with you anymore. Got to see my guy. Nick Allegretti. Marquez Valdez scantling, who's up in Buffalo now. Nikki's over in DC with the commanders.

It's just. It's always. It's fun to just get the. Get the crew back together. But honestly, I think Pat said it best when we were on the field for our last mini minicamp practice earlier that day.

He said, yeah, let's go enjoy this evening, but let's put this thing. Put this thing in the. In the rear view, man. Let's put this in the almanac. Yeah, let's.

Let's. Let's keep this thing moving, man. We got a lot we want to do, and we're very focused to keep our eyes on the prize. But it was a fun evening, man. It was a good deal.

Jason Kelce
Well, that's awesome. The hunt family did an absolutely amazing job. The venue is beautiful. The music was awesome, and there were. There were a bunch of.

Travis Kelce
It was cool to just be around everybody in the organization under one roof. It was cool. Well, let's take a look at this bad boy. They keep getting more and more just abstentions no, that's not a word. Doesn't even sound like a word.

Jason Kelce
Ostentatious. Thank you, Brandon. Fuck. 529 diamonds and 38 rubies. Totals 14.8 carats.

Four marquise diamonds. Is that for envious? No.

Travis Kelce
I'm trying to get my guy. Marquis. A ring for marquise. Diamonds represent the franchise's four Lombardi trophies. The base of the trophies are made from 19 custom cut baguette diamonds, distinguishing the Chiefs as the first team to win back to back Super Bowls in 19 seasons.

Jason Kelce
Has the game winning Tom and Jerry play on the inside. That's dope. Very, very cool. Yes. One major little goof on the ring.

Miami is listed as the seven seed because it has you all the games you guys had to win to get there. Miami was actually the 6th seed. I guess it just. That's just the way the ring is. Nobody's gonna.

Are you gonna get it fixed? I don't give a shit. Does anybody care? I like it that it's. That we didn't give a fuck about what seed?

Travis Kelce
Miami? Yeah, they were the 7th. Who cares? They could have done no seeds on the side of them. I would have been fine.

Jason Kelce
That's my thing. Yeah. I think it makes it more unique, like, oh, yeah. And we. We made it really detailed and, oops, we screwed up.

Travis Kelce
This makes it more exclusive. Like, oh, it's something we screwed up about something that means nothing. So awesome design. I do think that this looks cool. I like the way it's in the football.

Jason Kelce
You guys have you three Super bowl rings. Of the three Super bowl rings, which ring not. Which one means the most, as far as, like. Like, in your head, like, favorite one you have just aesthetically, which of your Super bowl rings is your favorite? I mean, this one's pretty damn cool.

Travis Kelce
This one has. It's just. It's massive. It has, like, the kind of, like, the shape of the oval of the football with, like, just diamonds going around it. It feels like a championship ring when you look at it.

It's like, damn, that thing feels and looks like a championship ring. But I would probably say the one last year was my favorite one. The. The top of the ring comes off and you can. It has a clasp.

You can. You can. You can wear it in different ways. And I think if I would ever, like, wear the rings out in a sense or, like, want to, like, represent that team or that Super Bowl, I would probably wear that class on a necklace before I would wear that big fucking dude. This is my whole problem with Super bowl rings.

Jason Kelce
And what it's gotten to. You can't wear it. I fought so hard. I fought so hard in 2018 after we won the Super bowl to get a ring that was just like a big ring but a wearable ring. And I lost, like, it was like me and like two other guys, and everybody was like, no, put as many diamonds on that motherfucker that they can fit on it.

And I'm like, dude, I told. I went up to Clark Hunt, I was like, dog. We went, another one, man. You just. I don't know how it could get any bigger.

Travis Kelce
We're just gonna need a brass knuckle of fucking Super bowl. Brass knuckle. I like those old ones where it's just like a gold ring. It looks like. Almost like it's like a class ring with a big ass ruby right in the middle of it.

I don't need the Ray Finkel ring. Yes, I like that because I can wear that every day. I cannot, like, well, first of, I can't wear mine because I lost it in Chile, but if I had it, I can't wear it. Like, it's just. It's like.

Jason Kelce
Rubs your other fingers. Ray Finkel was the AFC Championship ring. Well, this is another question I have. Your guys. Do all of your Super bowl rings say world champion or do some of them say Super bowl champions?

Travis Kelce
What do you mean? So this ring says world champion on the top instead of Super bowl world fucking champion. I'm just. Can I. No, just ask you what you say what anybody else says about the NFL not being in.

Jason Kelce
I'm not the world. And football being about the world and playing other with the NFL is the top premier league. I am. Nobody is beating the Super bowl champions champions. I'm not making that argument.

I am asking a question. Of your three Super bowl rings, do they all say world champions or did they say Super bowl champions? I'm just wondering. I have no idea. Well, the reason I'm asking is because AFC was not a part of the NFL.

Right. They were the AFL, right. That's the traditionally how the AFC came in, right? Correct. Before the Super bowl, it was just world champion.

And then I think the Super bowl got confirmed into the NFL once the NFC and AFC merged. So it's like world champions still, like a nod to, like the AFL. Like rings? No, just curious because I most say Super bowl champion, right? I don't think so because Lamar Hunt was, I think, on record creating the name Super bowl.

Oh, nice. That's dope. It might not have been Lamar, but it was somebody in the Hunt family or somebody in the organization that. That, like, pitched the idea, and everybody kind of was like, yeah, that. So I'm way off.

Travis Kelce
I don't know. It might be. It might be an underlying. I don't think. I don't think the hunts are into it like that.

No. I think they just say world champion, because we are the world champions. Fair enough. That's easy as that. There you go.

Jason Kelce
And in other news, I made it to the shoe boring ceremony. Yeah. Not in person, but in spirit. This wonderful. What is it?

Is it just like a little. It's like a little paperweight or something? Yeah, it's just like a little figure. Yeah, it's cool. I like it.

Travis Kelce
I like it. I don't know why they made it, but I like everything about it, other. Than me holding a Super bowl that I lost. And it is like the death of me, but other than that, I think the whole thing is pretty. Do you get one for me?

They said. Yeah. They said, I got to. So you got one for me? Yeah, I might make it into, like, a Christmas ornament.

Jason Kelce
That thing would be cool looking from, like, a tree. That thing is heavy. Solid. Yeah. I'm gonna put on a tree.

I'm just gonna saw off my right arm. Just gonna saw that one off. It's metal. I'll saw it off. They make.

They make jets that can cut metal. I'll get it off. I'll take it over to operation breakthrough. They'll get it off for me. Don't figure it out.

Travis Kelce
Or you switch it up instead of the last year's Super bowl or two, or libvo, you get your Super bowl on there. But then it's like I earned the other one, which I'm not. I think I'm just gonna solve. Yeah. Or just add another high.

Jason Kelce
So then it's just. They're both. Super Bowl 58. Good point. I like that.

The it. First of all, this was a fucking. That was such a fun moment. And then I also love that they kind of give a little nod to buffalo with the maple leaf as the happy trail right there. Just the belly button air.

Travis Kelce
I mean, that's what your belly button hair looks like. Is it? I got a maple leaf. Yeah. All right.

Jason Kelce
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Jason Kelce
My fiance has been handling the whole thing. We did some proud of you. Don't matter. You don't matter. And none of your decisions should be made.

Travis Kelce
This is the truth. But I did put it all on her, unfortunately. Well, you got to have opinions on some of it. Just reassuring opinions. Just keep asking her what she wants.

Jason Kelce
She's been handling the registry, the invites, and everything else. Well, Jake, you might want to sign up for Zola just to see if this wedding is still happening. I'll check in on that. Let me get this straight. You haven't been using Zola to help you build a wedding website or venues and avengers?

Travis Kelce
No. She again. She's been doing everything. Zola would have made this much, much easier. We really messed that one up, guys.

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Zola.com, new heights. Let's keep this thing moving. We actually have some Eagles news to. The Eagles are officially innocent. The league announced Thursday that the Eagles did not have contact with then free agent Saquon Barkley during the 52 hours legal tampering period.

Jason Kelce
That's right. Yeah. Thankfully, we didn't know who. I don't know who accused us might. Have been the New York football giants.

Travis Kelce
After reviewing text messages, emails and other documents related to the signing, the interviewing of Saquon Barkley, general manager Howie Roseman and head coach Nick Sirianni and Penn State head coach James Franklin, the NFL found no evidence the team violated the tampering, the anti tampering policy. Wonderful. That's right. Yeah. If the quads don't fit, you must acquit.

There you go. Very nice. How thrilled would you be to have your text messages received by the NFL, man? I mean, I don't have, like, anything incriminating on there. Nothing incriminating.

But. But there's something vulnerable about handing over a phone to pretty much any entity, anybody. Yeah. And the reality is they already. The government already has it.

Jason Kelce
They're watching everything we do. Travel. Watch away. Careful what you say. I'm not doing anything illegal.

Travis Kelce
Obviously, the jokes that I have with my friends and you would probably be the most gas anybody could ever have. But I'm not doing anything illicit. But I listen, I am not afraid to type anything into Google.

I'll fucking. That's how I get more aware of certain things. Exactly. Right. Safe search off.

I'm in there. I got. I want to see this shit. The Falcons were not as fortunate as the Eagles, though, and 100% did that shit and were found guilty of tampering. Kirk Cousins, who was.

Who would have been the last person I would have thought would have been guilty for anything in life. Well, let alone this. Kirk is not guilty. The Falcons are guilty. Kirk can do whatever he wants.

It's a good point. Yeah. So the Falcons are the ones that are guilty here. Yeah. The league found they had improper contact with Kirk Cousins, Darnell Mooney and Charlie Warner.

Jason Kelce
During the 52 hours legal tampering period. Atlanta will forfeit its 2025 5th round draft pick and pay a team fine of $250,000 while general manager Terry Fontenot will pay a $50,000 fine. So a bunch of slap on the wrist and you get a franchise quarterback. Worth it. Did we know that Cousins triggered.

The only weird thing is that they then wasted another draft pick on another quarterback. Whatever. Did we know that curse that Kirk Cousins triggered this investigation himself? I did not know that. Did not.

Cousins essentially admitted during the introductory media conference that he had contact with the Falcon staff members before free agency officially began. So he admitted it. He's unknowingly incriminated himself this is how. You know he unknowingly incriminated himself. His team.

His team. This is how you know that Kirk is such a good dude. He's never done anything like, he doesn't even know that he's even doing something wrong. He's just. God damn it, man.

Travis Kelce
He's just so innocent, man. Fuck. Just such a great dude. He's just wearing. He's wearing chains shirtless on planes, man.

Jason Kelce
Fuck. Anybody else that has tried shenanigans is like, all right. You don't. You don't release information like this. I just met him today, actually, talking.

Talking? Yeah, we talked. We were having lunch. What are you talking about? We talked about your mom.

Yeah.

Travis Kelce
I only get one, your mom joke on father's day. That's it. You're always ready to be incriminated when you've been in the Kelsey, not revealing any information. Jason, where were you Wednesday? I'm.

Jason Kelce
Why are you asking?

I don't remember. I forget. I get hit in the head for a living. I don't. I don't even remember what I did earlier today.

You expect me to remember Wednesday like the back of my hand? You're insane. You're insane if you think I have that good of a memory. I live life on instincts, okay? I don't live.

Travis Kelce
I don't document things up here. This brain. I was hanging out with Eric. No, I wasn't in Eric's house. I was hanging out with Eric.

Jason Kelce
We were at the park. No, I wasn't in Fairfax. I was at Canterbury.

I'm going. I'm bobbing and weaving. So there's a question in here on the rundown that says, how aware are players of tampering rules? Not very aware at all. Well, in the tampering period is confusing because, like, free agency starts a certain day, but the league has moved to this tampering period.

And I would say that most players have no idea when that tampering period starts. If you're going to be a free agent, you just kind of assume that people are going to start calling you. And I would say in all probability, the Falcons are not the only team that reached out to Kirk Cousins during this timeframe. There are probably any team that was interested in reaching out to him. Well, fuck it.

Travis Kelce
Time out. Time out to get fucking hit too. Doesn't matter if you get the guy. Nobody. Nobody.

If you're hitting them up. Yeah. If they're getting my text messages, they better fucking hold everybody fucking accountable here. But here's the problem. Nobody accuses the teams that didn't sign the player as the ones that were tampering.

Yeah, but if you're better fucking, I think everybody accountable. This happens every year. A team loses a player and they accuse other teams of tampering. And the reality is that all of these teams are reaching out to agents and people before the tampering period starts. I'm not believing that any of this is first negotiated on the spot.

Jason Kelce
They want a tampering period. There's no way in hell how we got Saquon Barkley to sign that contract. Just. But that was definitely not tampering. It's been confirmed.

They check the text messages. They checked. They checked the emails. They check the phone calls. Yeah.

Travis Kelce
No temper if the quads don't fit. Must have quit. Jason, last bit of football news. What we got? Yeah, we got the wide receiver market.

Jason Kelce
Just getting reset again. Oh, shit. That's right. Justin Jefferson signed a four year, $140 million contract. I should have been a wide out.

Travis Kelce
I should have learned to catch the ball. So essentially, the y receiver market has surpassed the tackle market, which I think tackles. It was always around the same, but now the wide receiver market is officially up there. Oh, yeah. Justin Jefferson signed a four year, $140 million contract to stay with Minnesota Vikings.

Jason Kelce
Yeah. What does that equate to four for 140? 34, I think. Yeah, sounds about right. Dude, I can.

Travis Kelce
I'm just so good at fucking math. It's not. It doesn't equate to that exactly. Maybe it's 35. It's 35.

No, it's just under 35. It's 35 exactly. It has to be an even number because it's 30. It's 35. 35.

Jason Kelce
140 divided by four is 35. Are you challenging me on this one, too? No. Use your fingers. Use your fingers.

Travis Kelce
You got it. Dude, why you got to go all the way up to 141? Two. What's 425? What's four times 25?

Yeah. 100. So you add 40 to that. That would be one last. You with that?

Yeah. 31. 40 divided by four is 35. That's all I know. I don't know what math you're doing in your head.

What, 125 or 25 times four? Where. Why are we doing 25? Because that's the easy one. That's the one you already know is 100.

Jason Kelce
I don't know where you're at. I'm just doing 140. What's 25 plus 1035? You do that four times, it's 40. I'm telling you, man, I'm rain, man.

Travis Kelce
You can't fucking get into my timer. You still saying it's 34. Are you now on 35? It's 35. 100%.

Jason Kelce
Okay. You do it your way. However you're getting there, you keep getting there. 35. Five of the top eight highest paid non quarterbacks are now wide receivers.

That is AJ Brown, Amon Ra St. Brown, Tyree Kill, Jalen Waddle and CD Lamb, Jamar Chase are coming. Some of these numbers are kind of like habitats. Like last year, there weren't any. A lot there.

Like, a lot of these receivers are now up, like, as a percentage of the cap. Let's take the AJ Brown. I love AJ Brown. Let's take the percentage of the cap, though. Tyreek Hill signed his four year contract two years ago in Miami.

Travis Kelce
Yeah. B. Three of this day show. Yeah. He got a 30 million per year average when he signed that deal.

Jason Kelce
That is a higher percentage of the salary cap than AJ Brown, who's perceptively making more per year because it's 32 million. So, like, when that deal was done, it was taking more away from the cap on average, probably, depending on how it was structured. Yeah. Justin Jefferson. 35 million.

Again, that 30 million adjusted, it's probably about the same. It's probably similar. I don't know, what was the salary cap in 2022? We'd have to do that. Anyways, I guess what I'm getting at is all of these numbers that continue to look like they're exponentially higher.

A lot of that is due to the salary cap continuing to go up. And it's the same thing with quarterbacks. Kirk Cousins signs this deal, it's like, it's the biggest quarterback contract in history. And it's like, well, if you adjust it to, like, the percentage of what the salary cap is, it's really not that much more than what he should be getting. But, like, when you look at it from that, so, like, I think sometimes these numbers get thrown out there and people just compare numbers to, like, previous years.

Like, it's like. And they kind of. It's not completely accurate. But what is accurate is that five of the top eight highest paid non quarterbacks or receivers, the receiver market has gone up. And I would say that that kind of started with you guys, when you guys had Tyreek, when you had envy's.

And then who was the other really fast guy? Who's the other really fast guy? Maybe not envious. Who are the. You're talking about the legion of Zoom.

Yeah. We had Tyreek, Sammy Watkins, Sammy, Nicole Hardman. Nicole was another fast one. But there's a third one that was like, really, really fast. It wasn't Sammy.

Travis Kelce
Sammy was really, really fast. All right, Sammy. And then Demarcus Robinson. Am I missing somebody? God damn.

I've been playing football for too long. I feel like when that offense was so explosive that the entire league put a big emphasis on getting more speed, a lot of that centered around Tyree kill, just solely as a player. I mean, change the game. People were looking for the next Tyree kill the moment he was in Kansas City. Correct.

Jason Kelce
It feels like there's been a big push to get star receivers because the explosive offense that was generated by the Kansas City Chiefs. I don't know, maybe I'm putting too much on you guys. There's also been other. I mean, obviously, what's happened in Miami with the amount of speed that I forget whether it's McDaniels or Daniels, Mike McDaniel has accumulated down there. You know, what they've done with Shanahan and just getting really, really fast.

Running backs Raheem mostert and some of these guys. So speed is at an all time premium in the NFL. Like, I think probably never before. Even though Speed's always been important, it is a hot commodity. It feels like in modern day NFL, Speed kills AJ Brown, he's got speed and size a little bit dangerous.

I think that that has kind of shifted a lot of teams to push, to try and get offenses that are in that mold. Maybe that's just my thinking on it, but it feels like it's timed up with the Legion of Zoom. Like when Seattle won the Super bowl, all of a sudden you saw corners getting paid ridiculous money in DB's because they had that, the Legion of doom. They had the backfield with Chancellor in freaking Byron. Everybody, everybody sees what's successful, and they want that on the exam.

Travis Kelce
I hear you. So I think Tyree definitely started the small, fast guys get fucking paid the most, right? He's one of those guys that was, like, the anomaly. Like, oh, he. Like, before Tyreek, you never saw a really tiny.

I want to say tiny because he's not that small, but, you know, you never get. You never saw a small receiver get paid the most in the league. It was always the. Calvin Johnson's, the Julio Jones is the AJ Greens. You know, I mean, the Jerry, the Morris.

Randy Moss is the. Yeah, yeah. It was just a different day and age in a different game. Now you can do so much with receivers. You know, the.

The jet sweeps, the reverses, the end arounds the screens. Yeah. That's an interesting way of looking at. It when you're as good as Tyree kids. AJ, you can do more.

Jason Kelce
Essentially, AJ and Justin are definitely. I mean, you can do all those gadget stuff with Justin Jefferson as well, but I would say Jefferson and AJ are pretty prototypical receiver. Yes. Right. Yes.

I think that this is an interesting point you're bringing up, and maybe it's you guys, but it's also the Shanahan offense that utilizes a lot of those gadgety players within it, where Tyree kill is a perfect piece for that, which is why he's down there in Miami. And then, you know, Jalen Watt will fit that mold. Monroe say Brown fits that mold. All of those guys, I would say they can do the traditional receiver stuff, but they're also these, like, quick, more like dachshund type receivers that. Okay, dachshund, yeah, yeah.

They're more doc dachshund in their, in their speed. So, yeah, I think that's an interesting take and I think that makes a lot of sense. All right. Let's get to some questions about building rosters, though, because traditionally you're building. I don't even know if that's traditional.

Yeah. How would you build a team, typically? The way I've thought about it is obviously quarterback is number one. That's the first thing you want. But you build through the trenches.

You have to have a great offensive line, a great defensive line, skill, position. Players forever be football's focal point. Yes. You can't tell me that. You can.

Travis Kelce
Not the most game without controlling that fucking line of here's. And this is the way I like to say it to people, is like an offensive line and a defensive line aren't going to win you many games, but if you don't have a good one or a really good one, they're going to lose you games. There's going to be games where you're going to not have that trench battle won. And. And typically it's going to be at an important time of the year.

I've seen a bunch of games won by offensive line. That's fine. I think. I think, yeah, dude, ending the game with the ball in your hand, that's how you win a football game in the fourth quarter if you're up. But typically that happens because the other trench is so bad.

Jason Kelce
But yes. Yeah, dude, I've seen it where it says battle, battle for battle. You're just fighting for three to four yards a pop when you know we're running it. All right, I'll give it to you. I just think for the most part, the reason you want a great offensive line.

Offensive lineman can't make plays. I hear what you're saying. Offensive line is a facility is a facilitator for skill players to do their job. Defensive line, maybe it's a little bit different because they are making plays. They're getting sacks, they're getting tfls, they're doing a lot of things that are stat driven.

Offensive line is more just a position of. We need to make sure that the skilled person has an opportunity to. To be the player that they are. If you don't have a good offensive line or good defensive line, you're going to get exposed when you play good trench play. And this is really like, when you think about like college football, like SEC football, big ten football, these are the biggest differences.

Like there's, believe it or not, there are great skilled players in Mac schools. There's great skilled players in Pac twelve schools. Yeah, 100%. There are outstanding skilled position players in all levels of college football, even division three. Like, there's some great players have come out of Mount Union and stuff like that.

But where the real difference is, quite honestly, is like the offensive line, defensive line, like, it is harder to find those guys that can compete at the SEC and big ten level at smaller schools, which is why they just can't compete when they get on the same field. If you can't establish anything in the trench, you're going to. It's going to be really, really hard. You're right. I think that.

Travis Kelce
Yeah, I think. I think Tyreek was really that first kind of undersized receiver that got paid the fucking book of bucks and now anybody can get that kind of money. Yep. You're only getting that money if you, if you get that opportunity to showcase your talents in that way. There's a question on here.

Jason Kelce
Does it make sense for a position group other than quarterback to exceed 20% of a team's cap? I don't even know that it makes sense for a quarterback to proceed because to exceed 20%, that's up for argument. It is what it is. Yeah. My point is I'm fine with them getting more in dollars than 20% of the cap, but if we're a good gm, we should be structuring it so that it's not 20% of the cap.

Like, there's ways to extend quarterbacks and kick cans down the road. Like, dude, I can see it right now. I can't wait for you to be gm, man. I can't wait. Dude, I could see it right now.

Travis Kelce
You're so fucking well thought out in this kind of stuff. I can see it right now, man. You would fucking thrive. Well, I got to learn from. I'm just going to start studying under Howie Roseman school of Howie.

Just keep just going there with fucking some. What's how he's deal. Is he like biscuits? Does he like you trying to. Are you trying to get me to ted lasso how he feel.

We got coming up? That's funny. That's good. Oh, man. What is Howie.

Jason Kelce
Howie, I know he likes tequila. He's got his tequila. No, that's. You can't do that. Tequila is too hardcore.

I can't do his tequila, but he likes tequila. You just got to go in there with like little treat of like, what's the sugar coated, like frosted flakes stuff. I could picture it. Puppy chow, dude. Is it what's called.

Travis Kelce
I'm pretty sure it's called Puppy Chow. All right. Don't do that to Howie. Dude, how do you think of stuff like this? You are such a, like, people person.

Jason Kelce
Like, you just know your gifts, all of it. Like you just are great at. I don't know how you do it. Just a little something that'll just brighten your day. Just like.

Travis Kelce
God damn it. So good off this call. And now there's just like a puppy child. I don't know how you do this sugary delight. Well, I'll have to figure out how I can coax Howie Roseman into teaching me his general managing ways, even though I'll never probably do that.

Why not? Just gotta learn why not? Yeah. There you go. Never say never.

Jason Kelce
Since 20 2027, wide receivers have been picked in the first round. Yeah, I mean, it's. Listen, it's a passing league. It is really, really hard. And now that Travis has said this about shorter receivers, I have not thought about it that way.

But teams have found ways to utilize these swiss army knives as integral pieces of their offense. Very well said. And then outside receivers that win one on one are always going to be high paid because it's the hardest to double a guy out on the outside. Like, if you want, if he can win that one on one matchup and that's always there, it's very difficult. Yeah, it's.

You got to do some creative things to help that outside corner out. That's why corners and wide receivers have always gotten paid big bucks. Yeah, I think this is a trend that is going to keep happening until defense is adjusting or just is going to keep happening. We'll see these shorter receivers are, in a lot of ways, are being used as, like, by HBACs or, like, as, like, as, like a quasi running back on a lot of this stuff. So, like.

Like, Tyree Hill is like, somewhat of a receiver, but he's kind of like an h back. Like, Debo Samuel is kind of like an in between player and the receivers, but they do other things as well. What is of big value in the NFL right now are these players that do multi things because the league has become so creative? Well, it's. It's become so multi offense.

Like multiple personnel. Like, if you can go out there with one personnel, and this is why the shit, the San Francisco offense works so well with Debo Samuel. And you check, don't forget you, kiddo, where you have these pieces that can. All of a sudden, you can be in eleven personnel. You can be in twelve personnel.

You can be in 21 personnel. You got to cover the whole fucking field. Yeah. And you can run all of the plays out of all of those different personnel where they have you. Maybe it's not as strong as being in a legitimate form of it, but it's good enough that, like, it puts the defense in a bind that, am I playing nickel?

Am I playing base? Am I playing big nickel? My plan, man. Am I playing zone? It's.

It puts a stress as to what. What offense am I playing? Yeah, let's get some no dumb questions. All right, now let's move on to some no dumb questions, because there's no such thing as dumb questions. Just two dumbasses answering those questions.

Travis Kelce
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Jason Kelce
Boom. First no dumb question is from wrong. Championship 593. I believe if you could use a time machine one time only, where would you go? The old time machine question.

Interesting. Do you want to go first? You want me to go first? I mean, anytime I think a time machine, I think of Marty McFly. Oh, there you go.

Travis Kelce
And I think a doc. So, back to the future. Yeah, back to the future. So if I were to create a time machine or get in a time machine, I would probably go back to the future. So you would go back in time, but you can't go back to the future because you can only use it one time.

I don't even think I would go back. I think I would go to the future. Yeah. This is the question I'm asking. If you can only use it one time, does that mean you can't come back?

Jason Kelce
You're just stuck there. Just answer. I think it's just like, if you could use a time machine only one time, where would you go? I would go light years into the future just to see what ends up happening in the future. Yeah, I mean, the future is nice.

Travis Kelce
I gotta see what's happening if you. I really, I like, it's cool. Maybe see a dinosaur in person, but at the same time, it's like I'm trying to see what the fuck is going on in the future here. Right, right. All right.

Like, do we all turn into computers? Because if so, I I want to get a head start on that now. I don't know. I I feel like I can't go into the future because even trying to relate to, like, kids coming up now, it's like, man, I am. I can't even think about kids 40 years from now.

Jason Kelce
Like, this is gonna be weird, dude. What do you mean? What's the music gonna be in 40 years? I'm gonna be like, what the fuck is this? Hip hop in the nineties and hip hop in the eighties when it was done by, like, dudes that were living that life is hits way different than, like, now when it's like, auto tune renditions of, like, people.

Like. And it's the same thing in country music. If I had to hear one more country song, that's like, I'm all, I got my boots in my truck go. Going through the fields like, what the fuck are we talking about? That's not country music.

That's not country music. Put on some fucking Willie Nelson. I am tired of country music. And what does this become? It is horseshit.

Travis Kelce
Horseshit. Whore. I like some of the country music coming out. Listen. Some of it sounds good.

Jason Kelce
It's the same thing with hip hops. It sounds good when you're, like, you're in a club. You a fan of Shibuzi? I'd have to listen to it. I might have heard it, but I.

Travis Kelce
Like, oh, you've heard it. Like, I can listen to modern country and I can listen to, like, modern hip hop jadosi when I'm out in the right environment. But, like, listening to it to, like, really enjoy it. Like Willie Nelson to me, like, the way he wrote songs like Chris Stapleton, obviously, right now, I'll shout out to. That's what I'm saying.

It's a bang when you're playing the music and got a voice like that. That's, that's forever. Tried and true. Tried and true. Anyways, let's get back to the note of question.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Time machine. Where you going? I have my, like, tricky way of answering this.

Jason Kelce
Like, the real answer to this is, you go to the future when time travel is invented. Right. So you travel to the future when time travel is invented. So now you can time travel whenever you want, because now it's invented. You go everywhere.

Travis Kelce
Yeah. Then you go back in time to when before it's invented. Kill the guy that invents it. So now you're the only person that can time travel, and then you have a limited time travel. Limited time travel.

Jason Kelce
And you're the only one who can do it. So you got a leg up on everybody. Name that machine, name that movie. I just steal a movie plot instead of Google. It's Google.

Travis Kelce
Yeah. Google hot tub time machine right there, man. What do we got? The next one is from s underscore. H a a c k.

Whatever. What olympic sport would you be good at? Be a sport you've ever played before? Me and Jason have kind of been on this, and I've never actually played it, but we both kind of been in on a. Dude, let's just.

Let's just go and see if we're good. God damn it. I'm drawing a blank on what it's. Called some of curling. Yes.

Let's. Let's just go and see how good we are. Curling. Yeah. I mean, listen, we're good at cornhole.

Jason Kelce
We're good at. At beer pong. Bocce ball. Good at bocce. I just won, actually, I lost.

I was just playing bocce ball on the beach. We got to get out on a curling. We just got to see, because I saw that touch. Yeah. I'm a good Jason, Jason.

Yeah. I mean, I don't sweep often, but if, when I do it, it's good. Yeah, you're tactical. You're tactical and you're brilliant. And I think.

Travis Kelce
I think we'd be really good at being, like, cheeky with it. Like, hitting certain. Yeah. We're there. We're tacticians.

That's what I'm saying. It's the way we're wired. We're our understanding of angles. Like the gen speed. Yeah.

And, like, I just feel like we kill it. I think we'd also be good at, like, a two man bobsled. I think it'd be. Ooh. I think it would be a good two man bobsled team.

Neither one of us can drive. I don't know if that's the best. Yeah, we got the Ed Kelsey jeans there just jerky. Just jerky.

Jason Kelce
Dude.

Dude, I can't get in a car with dad just like. Are you not feeling what you're doing to this fucking thing right now? I'm getting seasick. How the fuck am I getting seasick? You gotta love how everyone looks at their family members driving, man.

Travis Kelce
Everybody has, like. But then I found out I'm the same way. Kylie thinks I drive the exact same way as pop. That's what I'm saying. And I know for a fact everybody thinks that I drive like that.

So it's whatever. So I'm going to say curling. I'll double down on curling. Let's get on. On the ice, man.

Fuck. We got another fucking. We got to get out on the ice. So we're Winter Olympics, guys. We're Winter Olympics.

Oh, 100%. Keep me out of the heat. I'm out. Do we have a summer Olympic that we would maybe be good at? There's a list here.

Jason Kelce
Brandon is compiled, looking. Why does summer Olympics just seem so much harder? Cause you gotta be more into it. Handball. We used to play handball in the backyard with dad.

Dad used to play handball. We were a big handball team. I mean, technically, you need to play handball in a racquetball court, I think. But we. I think we could do that.

We could do handball. Maybe not my elbow shot. I can't even throw a fucking baseball. Too heavy for equestrian. Yeah.

I mean, Kylie could do field hockey. Fencing. No. Just looks weird. Beach volleyball.

I'd be the setter.

I think we could do beach volleyball. Dude, it's shoulders again. We're done. I'm not doing this. Badminton.

You ever seen those guys play badminton? You gotta be. That shit's fun to watch. I like watching badminton. Badminton's good.

High level badminton play. Exciting, let me tell you. Yeah, dude, I don't think we have. I'm gonna. We're gonna have to watch the summer Olympics, dude.

Artistic swimming, also known as synchronized swimming. You were on. You're a male cadet. We can both swim. I was a male cadet at high school, Trav.

I'm elegant, is a knowingly great dancer, and he can swim, so we could probably great dancers. Such a wild stage. No, it's not. It's a very well known fact. Because I fucking do dumbass dances.

You know why? Because you're a great dancer. I think we'd make a hell of an artistic swimming team. All right, I'm down. Synchronized swimming.

Travis Kelce
All right. It's one of my favorite movie intros of all time. Which. 01:00 a.m. i thinking of.

Jason Kelce
Is it base? No. No. What movie? I know I can picture the scene.

Travis Kelce
Legendary. It's not just that one. It's one of the heats everywhere. He's got every. He does the whole like dancing in the street with the entire like people that are just minding their business and everybody gets into like the one of those plays called.

Fuck. God damn it. I wish I was smarter. You know what I mean? Like, I just wish I was smarter.

I could go in the memory brain, pull out a file of shit and actually talk about it. Fuck. I am the worst. Is it Austin Powers? Yes.

Jason Kelce
Yeah. Ding ding, ding, ding.

Travis Kelce
Just watch the opening to Austin Powers and you'll fucking know what I'm talking about. It's great. I got it now. I got it now. I'm with you.

Jason Kelce
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Crown apple. I like the crown. Apple. Crown Royal. That's why I said that.

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Travis Kelce
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Wish there was a way I could, like, reconfigure where everybody was like, I wish you were closer to where the screen was. I have to look all the way over here. This could all be fixed if I just grab the fucking pelican as I'm walking out of the door. All right. Grab the what?

Gosh, Jason, you don't get out of the house, you wouldn't know. You see the pelican? Yeah, the pelican. What's. What's a pelican?

A pelican is a bird native to, like, the equator, I would say it's roughly. You can see them a lot in Miami. I think pelicans are all over. They like to get their. Their pink coat from the shrimp.

Jason Kelce
I think you're thinking of flamingos. Damn it. That is a flamingo. What is a pelican? A pelican is a pelican.

Travis Kelce
Oh, a pelican. Yeah. Pelicans are. I know what the bird pelican is, but what do you mean you were going to grab a pelican leaving the house? I can neither confirm nor deny I said that.

Jason Kelce
Jason, what did you say? Okay, what did you say? I'm an idiot, is what I said, essentially.

Travis Kelce
I'm an idiot, is what I said, essentially.

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