NFL Rookie Learning Curve Explained, Witnessing Playoff Luka and Adam Sandler's Oscar Snub | Ep 92

This episode dives into the transition challenges NFL rookies face, alongside lively discussions on NBA playoffs and Adam Sandler's film career.

1. NFL rookies face a steep learning curve, which is both technical and psychological.
2. Playoff performances, like Luka's, can define an athlete's career, showcasing resilience and skill under pressure.
3. The entertainment value of sports extends into cinema discussions, exemplified by debates over Adam Sandler's comedic genius.
4. Conspiracy theories can engage audiences, adding an element of intrigue and fun to sports discussions.
5. The episode provides a unique blend of professional insights and personal stories, making complex topics relatable and entertaining.

1: Introduction

The episode opens with the hosts introducing the topics and setting a casual, engaging tone. Jason Kelce: "Welcome back, folks!"

2: NFL Rookie Challenges

Detailed discussion on the difficulties rookies face adjusting to the NFL. Travis Kelce: "It's a whole new game at this level."

3: NBA Playoff Highlights

Focus on Luka Dončić’s performance and its significance. Jason Kelce: "That's what defines legends!"

4: Adam Sandler's Career

A humorous debate over Adam Sandler's overlooked performances in the context of Oscar snubs. Travis Kelce: "He’s a genius, overlooked by the Oscars."

5: Conspiracy Theories and Humor

Exploration of a fun conspiracy theory about Travis Kelce's potential movie role. Travis Kelce: "Imagine me in Happy Gilmore 2!"

1. For aspiring athletes, focus on both skills and mental toughness.
2. Fans can deepen their enjoyment by understanding player transitions from different angles.
3. Engage with sports discussions to enhance understanding and appreciation of the games.
4. Explore the intersection of sports and entertainment to appreciate the cultural impact of athletes.
5. Consider the broader implications of sports performances in shaping narratives and legacies.

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We’ve also got Jason and Travis’ thoughts on transitioning into the NFL as rookies, how hard they think it is to learn an NFL playbook, and a little lesson in a good old scramble drill

There’s also a recap of Travis’ time in Dallas watching some NHL and NBA playoffs, a no dumb question about board games, and Jason shows off some gifts he received down at the shore.

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Jason Kelce
That's another reason I don't look at the playbook is because it's fucking stupid. Nobody in their right mind goes out there, play side gap, comma, number two. Like, no, the senator guard are going there, I got this motherfucker. It's just for communication. When you come off the field, like.

How many times is there on a playbook? It'll be a route. But in your head, you know that. Like, hey, if this guy's. You know what I mean?

Travis Kelce
I'm barely ever not running what's on the paper. Like, you're barely ever not running what's on the paper. I'm always running what's on the paper. If it tells me I gotta go ten. You fucking bullshitting.

Welcome back to new heights, ladies and gentlemen, presented by wave Sports and entertainment and brought to you by subway. Make sure you get those all new footlong sidekicks at the closest subway to you right now. All right, now we're your host. I'm Travis Kelsey. My big brother, Jason Kelsey, coming from the University of Cincinnati, Cleveland Heights, Ohio's finest right here.

Jason Kelce
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Travis Kelce
Calm. Yeah, with one sr. We're doing. I screwed up my setup, so I'm reading things off my phone. All right.

Jason wants to tell the people was coming up. All right, now, we got a great episode for you guys coming up. We're going to be talking about what it's like to transition into the NFL. We've got a fair, grand conspiracy theory, which. Who doesn't like a good conspiracy theory?

Ooh. And as usual, we're keeping tabs on Trav. So, yeah, who knows where he was this week? Pretty sure everyone knows. But first, as always, new news.

New news coming in hot. That's right. Shorty awards. New Heights has won the Shorty award for best sports podcast at the 16th annual Shorty Awards or short awards. Whoa.

Jason Kelce
And we're also selected as an audience honoree for sports podcast. I don't know what that means. I don't know what any of this means. We were also selected as an audience honoree for sports podcasts, which means it received the highest number of votes from the public. Nice.

Travis Kelce
Thanks, 92 percenters. Thanks for giving us another award. This big, full list of nominees, new heights with Jason and Travis Kelsey, Nightcap, my man ocho, and sharp Shannon, the Joel Clatt show, big noon conversations, and all the smoke. All the smoke, baby. Couple of my favorite basketball guys.

Jason Kelce
Is that a basketball one? Yeah. All the smoke is there. All righty. Beer bowl to the deuce.

92 percenters. Remember, there is still time to enter your name. And for the castane. This is so weird, the way he's with. We're killing it.

Remember, there is still time to enter your team in the second annual beer bowl. Link to the submission website in the description of this video or podcast, and also in new news. I need some hecklers. We need hecklers. Yeah.

Be. Philly is having their first annual golf outing. It will be June 17 of this year. So we're looking to have a lot of fun with it and do it a little bit different. And one of the things I'm pretty passionate about is I want each and every member that is golfing in that golf tournament to feel what it's like to play sports in Philadelphia.

The only way I know how to do that is to recruit some of the most ruckus, rambunctious Philadelphia sports fans and best shit talkers in the Philadelphia area to heckle all of them while they're teeing off. I think that's one of the. One of the great pastimes of being a professional sports player in Philadelphia is enduring the wonderful fans of Philadelphia during tough times, and they can really get to you. So I thought it'd be fun to let everyone experience that firsthand. This is gold.

Problem is, I don't really know a lot of the best hecklers, and I thought just asking fans for your recommendations would be the way to do it. I think this is a great idea and a great way to go about it. Like, really, like, just go out on the podcast and tell everybody, hey, if you want to talk some shit to some familiar faces. Yeah. Aka, if you want Jason, because Jason just said, like, a lot, like a week ago, two weeks ago, he doesn't want to do a roast because of this.

Travis Kelce
This moment right here. No, no. Different. You know, go out on the ledge, you know, just be like, hey, guys, come and roast me for a hole. No, no, I'm not talking.

Jason Kelce
I don't have any problem with people talking shit. I think that I'm talking about, like, the roast things in front of tvs and how personal is whatever we're not going to. I'm just saying I think that this would be a lot of fun for a golf tournament. Things that we're looking for. Yeah.

Have you ever climbed a grease pole? Or have you ever been arrested at the link or the vet. Take link or vet. Link or vet. You know, you're pretty good if you're getting players to turn around at you in the middle of games.

Travis Kelce
Yeah. If you get a player, if you break them like the guys at, what was it? Eagles Niners game. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Got to, got to old Nick bosa, man. Yeah. Joey. Joey. That was Joe.

Jason Kelce
Well, Joey wasn't playing, though. I'm talking about, if you're on the field and you're on the bench, all of a sudden you're getting heckled so well that you have to turn around mid game. It's like, man, you're probably pretty good at talking shit. Have you, has anybody ever got you somebody? When I was playing in Oakland one time, uh, still had long hair at the time, and they said 62, you look like Bill Bergey's daughter, which.

That's pretty good. That was pretty good. Did you smile? Did you laugh at it? We were all laughing.

Me, Lane, all the guys, we were laughing our ass off. It's great. That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah.

Travis Kelce
If it was good, I'll, I'll probably, that's actually a good point. I don't know if it's like, if it's a bad shit talking or it's like, disrespectful one. Yeah, probably not. Turn around if you have some good shit for me, though. Exactly.

I'll turn around and give you a nod. Exactly. That was pretty good. That's, that's, that's a good one. Yeah, I agree.

Jason Kelce
That's what we're looking for. We're not looking for people to be assholes or to make fun of people's families. We're looking for people that are actually funny. But if you're gonna make someone make fun of someone's family, just make a good one. No comment.

If you would like to participate, please tweet at new height. Show, um, with why you are a definitive heckler or whoever you're nominating. You don't have to nominate yourself. If, you know, somebody put them out there or her. We would love to hear from all of them.

Yeah, we are going to select our favorites to participate who can also be there and want to participate. But, yeah, I want to make this as fun as possible. Maybe we can film some of it and have, like, a highlight show. Real. Maybe we'll show on new heights or something like that.

Travis Kelce
Would fucking love this, right? I think it's going to be great. Damn. We might need somebody from new heights there now. Jets, Jake.

Jason Kelce
Hop on a plane. Baby. Sorry, buddy. Don't know what you thought you were doing June 17, but you're in. Let's just give Jake an actual mic.

Travis Kelce
And he's probably pretty good at heckling. He's a jet now. We got to let him heckle at least a couple people. Do we do it on a par three or what? Hold.

Jason Kelce
Do we. I feel like par three. Closest to the pin needs to be a heck of hole. It's definitely part three. It's got to be a one shot type deal.

Travis Kelce
It's got to be, you know what I mean? Like, you get one shot to hit the green or drop it close. It's 100% got to be a part three. We're toying around with other rules. What do you think about this one?

Jason Kelce
Mulligans. If you want a mulligan, your mulligans, you know, they usually, like, give you like, little cards. Like, you pay for them. It's like $30 a mulligan or something like that. What if mulligans are like a beer and you have to turn in your cans at the end of the round?

So if you want a mulligan, you take a mulligan, but you got to buy a can of beer and you got to chug that beer before you hit your next shot. Think you should make it? Because Mulligan. You could do a mulligan, a hole and, like, between four guys, it's like 18 beers can be done. Yeah.

Travis Kelce
Oh, no. You might have to make it, too. If you want a muller, you got a chug a beer. The other one I thought of was, sorry, go ahead. You're still.

No, just gotta fig. You got to finish two beers by, like, the next two holes or so. What? I don't want people to be, like, stumbling over. I just want to have some fun with it, you know?

Well, then what's the point of saying you get the point of making? Because then it's a choice. It's like, listen, if you want to take the mulligan, take the mulligan, but you got to drink the beer. Yeah. You're going to get hammered if you're going to keep taking mulligans.

Jason Kelce
Exactly. Which, I mean, for me, I feel like it levels a playing field because there's a lot of guys that can drink really well, but they can't play golf. We don't play with handicaps. We tell everybody if they want a mulligan, they got a drink. Yeah, we're just making the tournament a big drinking game.

Travis Kelce
Beer bowl, golf tournament. I also thought about, is there a hole that every member of your team has to finish a beer before the end of that hole? And you have to turn in your can to the attendant hole at the green. Exactly. If one guy does it, all four of you have to.

Yeah, I like that one. Or maybe it's if you all. We don't want to force people to drink, but if all of you finish. Not everybody's in on drinking. If all of you finish the beer, then you get to subtract a stroke.

I don't know. You're gonna have to iron this thing out, but it does sound like a good time. What are some other ones that you've done that are fun? Oh, some of them you can go out and get a golf ball launcher. Like a net.

Jason Kelce
Like it's a gun. Yeah. John has had that at his before. Those are good. I forget what else.

Travis Kelce
I got nothing else for you. Heckle hole is. I think that'll be a game changer. That'll be a fun one. That'd be a fun one.

Jason Kelce
Yeah, that would just let people play golf. I guess that's why they come. Yeah, I guess we just figured it out. Cool. Well, that does it.

Travis Kelce
For a little new news, let's jump into fan mentions of the week. All right, now let's move on to some fan mentions. Our first fan mentioned is more of a conspiracy theory from free love, underscore freeway on Reddit. This is the theory. Travis Kelsey will be announced as part of the cast of Happy Gilmore two.

Jason Kelce
Wow.

Travis Kelce
I didn't even know there was a job opening for having. But if there is, I'll be a fucking extra. You know, anything to get around a happy Gilmore, Adam Sandler film or set. Count me in. Obviously been a huge fan of the Sandman, but, yes, this is exactly what it.

What it says it is. A conspiracy theory. Oh, who knows? A theory. Theories can come true.

Theories can be true and just people don't know about it. So I. I might even be in the talking and nobody knows about it, but I could also not be in the talking, so. Well, the conspiracy comes from. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of evidence.

Jason Kelce
There's three parts of this comparison. Conspiracy theory. Part one, on the podcast, of course, Arnold alluded to the Kelsey brothers being in LA to set up movie deals. Part two is. Travis has been wearing this hat for a couple of weeks.

Travis Kelce
Yeah, I mean, it was a great hat. Part three is just happy Gilmore two was just announced, so there's really no evidence to support this. Whatsoever, essentially, other than the movie is. Getting made and I'm looking for movie deals. It's about love, Adam Sandler.

Jason Kelce
So, yeah, we're just in line with about 1000 billion other people trying to. Think of what role and maybe the old one. Would I be the jackass guy? I'd be the one heckling from the crowd. I mean, that's a good role.

Travis Kelce
Ooh. I did just do a game show. I did just do a game show. Maybe play the Bob Barker, bro. Oh, you're not Bob Barker.

Jason Kelce
Let's be honest. You're not Bob bar. Not even close. I'm not even close. That was wishful thinking, dude.

I really think you got to be involved with shooter somehow. You can be shooter. What about shooters? Caddy did shoot or even have a caddy. I don't even remember him having a caddy.

I don't think he did. But now he might and happy get more. Listen, like, happy's got his caddy which is an iconic homeless guy that he dressed up and he's caddying for him. Shooter, who's like, mister big shot has a professional tight end being his caddy. I think it works pretty good.

Travis Kelce
I could be shooters Caddy. You could be happy Gilmore's. I'm not taking, no, you fit. You fit the homeless.

Homeless Neanderthal, caveman. Like, that caddy was perfect from Happy Gilmore one. I'm not doing anything with that. You know nothing about golf. I feel like shooter McGavin.

You don't wear draws. You actually were. I think he washed. Draw his. Washing his drawers and, yeah, so I can't.

That's definitely your kind of move for sure. Well, I don't wear underwear, so this is not my move. No, but think about this. I'm serious. I think if Shooter was going to have a caddy it would be like some, like, random celebrity.

Jason Kelce
And I feel like, who better than to be the caddy then? Professional tight end Travis Kelsey. Because he's gonna want to show off that he, shooter McGavin. He's like, look, I got Travis Kelsey camera bag. I think it's gonna happen.

Travis Kelce
I don't know. No, you're not seeing it. No. But like I said, I'll. I'll do anything in the movie.

Jason Kelce
What is there? What else could there be? I'll be a part of it any way I possibly can. It's hard to know without knowing the script. Such a good movie, though.

It's a great movie. Such a good movie. I actually. It's making me want to watch it. Right now, who's your favorite.

Who's your favorite Happy Gilmore. Uh, character. I'm a little biased, but I'm gonna say. Happy Gilmore. That makes sense.

He's pretty good at it. He's the loose cannon hockey player turned golfer. I fucking love that shit. God is so good. Chubbs is the best of me.

It's only just begun. What a magic. Just go to your house. I lace and promises. Okay.

Jason.

Look hip. Got my hair back.

Travis Kelce
Just go to your happy place. Golly. A lesson learned. Thank you, Happy Gilmore. Whenever I'm upset, I just go to my happy place.

Jason Kelce
What's your. What's your favorite Adam Sandler character? If we're going to expand it to other Adam Sandler films. Damn it. I know.

I know what you're thinking. You thought of this, and right away you thought about Bobby Boucher. Dude, so I don't understand how he didn't win. Like, he was full character. I mean, I get it.

Travis Kelce
It's like. It's comedy. You can't tell me anybody did a better acting job than Bobby Boucher in the water. Boy, are you. There's only one other movie where and it's a little, I want to say, sillier, but he was full.

He was full throttle. A completely different human being. Little Nikki. Little Nicki was. Oh, my gosh.

Jason Kelce
Gosh. Little Nikki. Little Nikki Waterboy. He should have won an Academy Award for best actor. And you can't tell me anybody that year who did a better job of, like, acting like a.

Like a Creole swamp, like football. I haven't ever thought about this, but what an amazing job that was. Dude, it's. Anyway, you watch it, it still holds up. It's so good.

Who was the best actor that won that year? Dude, I have no idea. The water boy was in. Released in what year? November of 1998.

One day after my birthday. How about that? Really? Yeah. The Oscar that would have been up for would have been the 1999 Oscars, right?

Travis Kelce
I'm gonna say you're right on that. Best actor. Roberto Benigni won the award for best actor for his leading role in life is beautiful. They fucked that one up. Life is beautiful.

Jason Kelce
You ever seen that fucking movie? And have to watch. I'm gonna have to watch it, though. I'm not even. I don't even need to watch it to know that he didn't do as good of a job as Bob Boucher.

I don't even need to fucking watch it. There's no fucking chance. What did he play, like, a guy that was in love? Try playing a fucking Creole guy that's in love with his mama that doesn't. Know what love is.

What's the actual plot? Oh, wow. Damn it. There goes that segment. We've just been informed it's a Holocaust movie, so.

Travis Kelce
Yeah, so, I mean, he probably deserved it. I bet Adam could go and be in life is beautiful and do a pretty similar acting job as Roberto Benigni. But if Roberto Benigni tried to go be Bobby Boucher, he would fail like a fucking miserable. You are attacking Roberto so bad. Nothing against you, Roberto, but I'm kind of in on.

Jason Kelce
What is this Bobby Boucher's father that disappeared and then came back? It's your daddy, Roberto. It's your daddy.

Travis Kelce
It's me, Roboito, your daddy. If you were an Adam Sandler character, who are you most like? You want to do me, and I'll do you? You can't do yourself. All right.

Yeah, I got you. Okay, so who's Travis as an Adam Sandler character? It's tough. He's got so many fucking movies. I know.

I mean, God damn it. Bobby Boucher is. I feel like your character, but it's either Bobby Boucher or the wedding singer. I was gonna go wedding singer, maybe for you, but I'll take wedding singer. That's.

Jason Kelce
Dude. Very fucking good movies. Good ones. Dude. It's ridiculous.

I thought of a 41st date. Yeah, I thought you were gonna go there. I love that movie. I love that movie. That's kylie and I's favorite, like rom.com.

drew Barrymore. Action. Drew Barrymore. Yeah. I don't want to say this movie, because it's not like an original Adam Sandler movie, but the longest yard quarterback from long history, dude.

Travis Kelce
Fuck, yes. That's. That's. I'll proudly take that one. Paul crew.

Fuck, yeah. I think we about nailed it. If I can't get in on a happy Gilmore, too, maybe I can get on 41st dates, too. I'll do my second movie review. We are.

Jason Kelce
I did the movie review on the Twilight series. I'm flying out to LA. I'll watch life is beautiful on the plane ride over there. And I'll recap on if Roberto Benini really deserved the Oscar. Over.

Adam Sandler. It's me, your daddy. All right, well, we also got an email from my boy, Brian Michaels. Yeah. Former Cleveland Heights hockey teammate of mine had this picture attached, also showing my.

Travis Kelce
My hockey talents. Man, this was. This was squirt. This is double a little double a squirt championship. We.

We ended up winning, as I believe, maybe tenure. Nah, they've got to be like twelve, right? No, you're. You're in middle school. This is your last year of hockey ever.

No, no, no. That's a. That's Pee Wee's. So you won the peewees right before you go to high school? Peewee is right before us.

Jason Kelce
So you want it in Peewee and squirt? Come on now, baby. You got. Dude, you know what I forgot how much Daley Baker looked dead on Goldberg. Look at that motherfucker.

Gosh, he looks just like it was. Before we hit our. It was before we hit our growth spurts. I was pretty heavy, too. I mean, shit, I look like a goddamn goalie.

Travis Kelce
How big I am sitting in the middle. If you guys couldn't see me, Brad Sugar was pumped up over there, excited. Okay. I know a lot of the people in this photo, almost all of them, which I don't remember. Which one is Brian?

Jason Kelce
Brian Michaels. Which one's Brian? Brian is sitting. Standing, literally right next to me. Kind of like leaning into the picture, onto my shoulder.

Travis Kelce
To the left of me, if you're looking at it. Yeah. Romanski's to the other side, and then he's on the other side. Rosinski, my brother, Matt Michaels. Chris Dietz in there.

Andrew Branson there. Lil Fredo. Shamori. Adam Shamori. Man, we got everybody.

Who's that? Phillips. Andrew Phillips in that thing. You played with his older brother, man, I'll tell you what, Mitchell Johnson as well, man. We got the entire gang in here.

Mister Dietz, mister Ryder. So every. All the. All the Cleveland Heights hockey guys, man, I just always wanted to just get the. Get the crew together one.

One more time and just go out and play some hockey. Come on. I used to love it, man. One of my favorite. One of my favorite pastimes of forever.

Jason Kelce
Man, we got to get back out on the ice. We got to. JJ, the watts. We're still. We're still in.

We got to make it happen. I hope you are. I hope you got to make it happen. I'm not going to lie, seeing JJ rip a slap shot is. He's got it, dude.

I went out, I tried to take. I tried to take Wyatt and Elliot out for ice skating lessons, and it did not go well. They. Oh, no, they're too young still. They were not ready for it.

And they cried the entire time. You got on skates, what, six years old, seven years old. Seven was my first time getting out there. You were younger than me when you were five. I was five, yeah.

Travis Kelce
I was really? Mighty mights. Yeah. I was terrified, though. I was crying on the bench, had all the hockey gear on.

Crying on the bench and I want to go. It was like. It was lava in my mind. I was just like, I'm gonna die. And then dad just, like, picked me up, threw me on the ice and, like, pushed me, gave me like a.

What was it? Like a walker. Sometimes they give kids, like, you can kind of, like, balance yourself on the walker till you get your bearings. He said, just do a lap. Just do one lap.

I was like, I did one lap and I looked and was like, I'm gonna do another one.

Next thing you know, I throw. I throw the walker at him and I'm just like, flying around having a blast. Cuz skating's fun as hell. Ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't gone, you should go and try and do it sometime soon. I'm really telling myself that maybe that's.

Jason Kelce
What I need to do. I need to get dad to go with me for the girls because he was always good at that stuff. He's good at. He's really good at that stuff. I still remember the bike riding and when we were still in north Ridgeville.

I can't get off the training wheels. I'm terrible. Dad's running with me while the bike's going, and then, like, multiple times until eventually he's like, hey, look at me. And I look at him and he's not holding on. Finally so I realize that I'm actually riding the bike.

That was good at that stuff. Yeah, big head. He's a legend. Yeah. You might need to just see him do it with Wyatt one time and take notes and go from there.

Yeah. I don't know. Sometimes he might just have the magic touch. Some people just got it. I got why out there this year.

I think I could keep doing it with Wyatt Elliot. I screwed up because I tie. I didn't tire skates tight enough. And when she stood up, they were wobbly, and that's when she was scared. She had zero fear until she stood up with them skates on.

And I messed that up big time. That was when she was like, yep, I ain't doing this. Yeah, Eddie Babcocks used to want to fucking kill me at the camps when we were kids. Coach Babcock shot shout out to Eddie. Yes.

Travis Kelce
When he was. I believe it was when he was still in high school. Yeah. He was still in high nineties. Yeah.

Jason Kelce
Yep. So he was. He was in high school and he was. Ended up. Ended up being Jason's hockey coach, I believe, right?

He did. He did. And the high school team coach for, for a long time. He used to hate it because I would be like, eddie, can you tie my skates tighter? They're not tight enough.

Travis Kelce
And then we go in and he tie real tight and I'd fucking come go out for like 2 seconds, Eddie, my skates are too tight. Can you lose it about just like this little fucking kid fucking. Just tying skates the whole fucking day for this kid, dude. Eddie was so fucking electric. We used to play that baseball game.

Jason Kelce
Oh, my gosh. Oh, dude. Baseball on the ice, man. Yeah, man. Shout out to heights hockey.

Travis Kelce
All you kids that are interested in doing it, man, send it, do it. You'll. You'll love it. You'll absolutely love it, man. Jared Lavender is the coach now, I believe with the high school team.

Oh, nice. Hell yeah. They play for the Missouri Mavericks for a little while out in KC. He bounced all over the place in semi pro. He played a long time.

Oh, yeah. Hit hockey legend right there, baby. That's right. And the Lavender family. Yeah.

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Interim Brandon, please. Come on in.

Travis Kelce
We're outside? Hell yeah. You get. You are outside. Hell yeah.

Skateboard, beautiful patio.

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Let'S talk some more football. Haha. This is a sports show. That's what we keep getting awards for. So we got to talk about sports.

Hey, guys, we're still 14 weeks out from the start of the damn season. Weeks. I know. It's coming up here, Trav. We are officially in the dead middle of season mode.

Why can I not? In the dead middle of the offseason? I can't read today. Welcome to my life. Still 14 weeks out from the start of the NFL season.

We're officially in the middle of the NFL offseason. But you know what never takes on? You know what never takes an offseason. Why am I fucking so stupid right now?

Travis Kelce
Yep, you're killing it. But you know what doesn't have an offseason? NFL? Social media. That's right.

Jason Kelce
Now, since rookie camps and otas have started, a lot of NFL vets have weighed in on the transition from college to the NFL. All right, here's this Dan Orlovsky clip where he talks about an old Texans playbook. What do we talk about all the time when it comes to rookies and playing in the NFL? How quickly they can learn and then go apply the playbook. And I thought it'd be cool for.

Travis Kelce
Everyone to understand kind of what that process is for these rookies. Dan does a great job. He's very. He's unbelievable at explaining things. I think that.

That he does it better than a lot. And it's always fun when you can dive into, like, what the plays look like, what the play sounds like, the different verbiage and everything that different teams use. I commend them. I don't think I have a single playbook from any of my seasons. Obviously, him being a quarterback, he's, he's, he's got those things and he played back when it was an actual playbook.

Now everything's on the iPad. And that's what I was gonna say. Carry around of a playbook, go paperless. I'm a big eco friendly guy. He does an absolute great job.

And then so does Chase Daniel. Chase Daniel took it one step further and broke down some plays from an old Sean Payton Saints playbook. I decided to pull out the offensive playbook for the Saints 2016. Look how thick it is. I love what Dan was saying because.

Jason Kelce
He was really focusing on the macro. But I want to focus on the micro. Chase does it. Does it great as well. He makes it really simple, kind of breaks it down and simplifies everything to the, to the average fan.

Chase ended up breaking down a one play. Dan broke down, essentially. Like, what? It's like everything that's in the book, how thick it is. I will say the book looks enormous, and they're kind of hyping it up.

Like it's that hard. And I think it is hard for quarterbacks most of the time. You're not recalling all the information in that book at all times. Like, the way they install it, a lot of the information in the book really doesn't get used that much in the front half of it. Like, there's the plays, then there's, like, procedural stuff that you kind of just do so much, it becomes second nature.

Travis Kelce
Procedural. How you identify defenses, terminology. There's a bunch of stuff in there that's like. And maybe it was just because I was with stout, I've. The way they, like, name Blitz is like, there was always, like, the name in the playbook.

Jason Kelce
And if you have half a brain or I've ever played football, it's like, oh, yeah, it's a wham. Blitz. Like, will and Mike, like, there's a lot of stuff in there that is not that important. The importance of it is, is there, like you said, you just have to know how to talk football. And a lot of the stuff that's in that book is based off of like, yo, we have to be on the same page when we communicate.

Travis Kelce
You can't just say, oh, number 47 and 23 came off the edge. You know what I mean? Let's just, like, tell me exactly who it was in terms of who we called the mic and things like that. So I hear you. Dan did a great job of talking about personnels, and that's where it really gets tricky for, like, wideouts and, and running backs.

Understanding the personnel's understanding, you know, where you are on the field and how you have to line up in terms of splits and things like that. The concepts were a little bit harder for me to grasp than the run game and the, like, the, like, the past blocking game. So if I'm in, like, protection, I think. I think that especially from the tight ends, like, perspective, like, either you got the widest, or it's like, we're blocking this in a man scheme. You know, when it comes to, like, pass pro and things, all you got.

Jason Kelce
To know is, are you getting the help from the tackle or is the tackle helping inside to a linebacker? Is it solid or is it area? I know, exactly. It's very. Which is.

Travis Kelce
And on the, on the flip side for center, that's your heyday right there. That's the bulk of your, like, and you just have to be able to communicate from that point on. But I think that a lot of the receivers and running backs and. And, like, kind of, like, the skilled players, as they call them, the skill players, the. The wideouts, tight ends, running backs, anybody.

Jason Kelce
Who touches the ball. Yeah, that's where it gets a little confusing. And it can be a lot in terms of, like, the concepts that are being installed. Cause you're typically the first, like, week to two weeks of training camp. Every single day.

Travis Kelce
You're getting about 20 plays, 20 different concepts of pass plays. I'll be very honest, I feel like if you played football throughout college, you've run into the vast majority of this stuff. Like, maybe it changes a little bit and there's all sorts of, like, different systems and whatnot, but most systems have, like, semblances of these plays. So you're not, like, going in and seeing a lot of brand new stuff. You're seeing things that you did something similar in college or in high school.

Jason Kelce
Oh, like, this is outside zone. This is what they call that. Or this is inside zone to the weak side. This is what they call that. This is what they call power.

This is what they call six man protection, is what I call five man protection. Like, the biggest thing of the terminology and understanding what the names of all these plays are and how they're coached, the techniques. So there is a lot, but I still think with how it's installed and maybe I think this because I didn't have an offseason, like, I got thrown in there in the lockout year. Yeah. So I was.

So my first year was. 2011 was the year the lockout. I didn't get a playbook until two days before training camp started. So I went in completely not knowing what was happening within. I mean, it's amazing how fast you can learn this stuff, especially with the way they install it.

You're installing a few runs a day, so you get to focus on those runs and you get to really iron out four down, three down. Yeah. And then in a game, you don't run it. Like, that whole playbook is not in for each game. In a game, when you actually go out and play, you have.

Yeah, you have, like, 15 runs in, maybe tops. And that's including. And then you have a special. A couple special run plays and, like, certain situations. Route concepts on how many route concepts you guys have in for a game typically, like.

Travis Kelce
I'm gonna say maybe 60. I don't know. That's a good question. Like it definitely cuts it, cuts it down. But you got about ten concepts per like situation from base to nickel to, you know, third down package to goal line to red zone.

So I'm going to say somewhere between 40 and 60 in that scheme. Now you're different because you're on the field all the time. You have to know all of it. I do think tight end is probably the hardest because not only you have to know the route concepts, you have to know the block blocking concepts, you have to know, um, so you have to know all the run scheme and all the passing game stuff. Yeah.

And that's, you guys are the only. You guys are the only guys. You guys are the only guy. Like even quarterbacks, even though they have to know kind of what the offensive line is doing. Like even in Chase's breakdown, he said like the tight ends gonna kill the end now.

Jason Kelce
The guards kicking out the end, the tight ends folding inside, like they're, like the quarterbacks aren't paying attention to like that minute detail of the run game they're really focused on. Okay, what am I killing this for? Six or seven man box? Like blitz, whatever. They'll have a good understanding of how it's supposed to be blocked.

Travis Kelce
But I hear you on that. They're not. Well, they know past concepts. They need to know, like if they're going to be hot in past game. But most of these guys don't know the intricacies of like the run blocking in tight end.

Jason Kelce
You have to know it at least to a certain degree. Like the actual, like line calls that are happening between the tackle and tight end. You need to know if the center makes this call that now your job has changed within the run scheme. Like, in my opinion, the tight end has to know more than anybody else on the field. Is that fair to say?

Travis Kelce
No, I think the quarterback takes that, but I do, I do think that it's, it's fun. It's a fun challenge to have to be able to, you know, get asked to do everything. Yeah. And I didn't realize that until I moved to the position. And that's where I really started to find love for the game.

It's like I was doing more than just catching the ball and giving it to somebody else. I was like sticking my face in the fan in the run game, finding ways I can help guys out when, when they have the ball in their hands, running around downfield, getting, getting blocks and getting open. I mean, I just had so much more fun in the challenge that the tight end position gave me than necessarily the quarterback position and everything that has, that goes on without that world. And I just. Yeah, I had a blast with it the minute I switched over.

In terms of the transition from college to the pros, though, the biggest thing is just like that communication with a whole new team, a whole new coaching staff, because you want to be able to have those, quote, unquote, educated conversations with your coaches. So tell. Talking to him and saying, oh, yeah, that was a bison. Gives him commute. That was a bison blitz, or that was a wham.

Blitz. That gives them confidence that you're seeing the field and you're, you're, you know, your job. And you know what? We're trying to get done as a. As a team, as a unit.

And all that does is just, you know, make you seem more valuable than just an athlete that can get the job done. Now, you're thinking of it from a team perspective. And I think that the communication with the. With the coaches and the players around you is so much more, you know, valuable than, than some guys may, may make it. So everybody that's out there trying to.

Trying to learn a playbook, figure out how the coaches are communicating it. Because the biggest thing for me was understanding what we were calling defenses. Yeah. Well, Andy is unique too. He doesn't just.

Yeah. Like, he uses a numbering system. How we're identifying coverages. Yeah. How we're identifying the defensive front to how.

Jason Kelce
25, 59. Oh, yeah. And that was like, still getting quizzed on that shit.

No. Here's what happens. And, you know, do you know why the numbering system with Andy is like that? Instead of just saying over and under? Yeah.

Travis Kelce
It tells you exactly what everybody's doing. It tells you where everybody's gap is. Now, the reason it's not over and under is because it's easier for the guy putting it into the computer. The numbering system was put in because instead of saying. Instead of saying under way for documentation.

It'S all just to file it. Instead of selling information, instead of saying under wink, they just have to put down 25. Instead of saying overdake, they just have to put down five, nine. So, like, now I gotta relearn all this shit because you guys just don't want to type fucking shit. What, did you find this out?

I haven't thought it. I haven't thought this deep into it, but that's hilarious. Is this a theory or did you actually ask why we. Why is it. No, somebody, one of the coaches said that that's why it got originated is because guys, when they were inputting it wanted to.

Jason Kelce
I mean, it allows them to go through more plays instead of having to write out full, full things. So I got you. That's funny as hell. But anyways, no, I thought Dan did a good job of explaining exactly how it happens. I thought they're kind of over over playing.

The difficulty of it, in my opinion. You're a smart dude. I've seen some guys, I've seen people struggle with it, and I'm not gonna lie, I've struggled with the playbook at times. Yeah. I mean, listen, I make mistakes.

Travis Kelce
Anyways, I thought they both did a great job. They did good. Chase threw me my first touchdown pass. We talked about it on his podcast with Trey Wingo or his show with Trey Wingo and we. Yeah, it was my first touchdown of my career, but it was a preseason touchdown and it was like a two minute drill.

He threw me a two minute all go special, which is like a four verticals on Madden. I caught the ball and there was fucking nobody in front of me looking up. This is the first time I, like, after knee surgery, I had actually, like, tried to, like, run away from a bunch of people trying to get. But, man, I didn't know I could run that fast. Haven't ran that fast since either.

Shout out to Dan and chase for breaking those things down and doing a great job of it. And good luck to all the rookies trying to figure out the playbook. Hopefully Jason gave you some confidence that it's not that hard. It'll be fine. Listen, just.

He learned it in two days. You'll be all right. Well, I learned the first install in two days and then I just learned the next install the next day and then the next install. The next. That's why I like, I.

Jason Kelce
And I, like, like, Dan brought up a good point that you install it multiple points. Like, you install it all from square one. One. In the offseason, they're going to reinstall it times for minicamps. They're going to reinstall it again for the season.

Like, and then each game you're doing install. So, like, yeah. If you can't get it after all these installs, like, I don't know what to tell you, brother. Like, I.

Travis Kelce
We gotta figure it out. All right, come on. What are we doing at night? Don't get me wrong. There's gonna be crazy situations that come up that you're gonna miss because you're not, like, aware of, like, exactly what to do in all these situations.

Yeah. I mean, that's why you need the reps. Yeah, that's why I need the reps. But I think for the most part, learning it is not that difficult. The biggest thing is, like, the terminology.

Jason Kelce
That's the biggest. And correlating all the, like, checks and, like, what are we calling this and what are we calling that? And how are we talking about it? And that takes a little bit of getting used to. Just gotta learn the terminology, be able to communicate, maybe.

Yeah. I think the only old playbooks I have are from Cincinnati. I have, like, a dantonian playbook. Yeah, I think I have a Brian Kelly playbook somewhere for you, man. I would love to look at that thing.

We had playbooks early when I was in. In Philly, but then we switched over. I think it was like Doug was. Actually second or third year. Yeah.

Travis Kelce
In Casey. We started using it. The iPad, that is. Yeah, I think Doug might have been the first one that it was all iPad. Maybe we had physical ones.

Jason Kelce
I don't know. I always preferred the physical, like, playbook. QB's also have physical one playbook, for sure. Yeah. There's something about, like, turning the papers and stuff like that, that it's just, like, easier for me to take in.

Travis Kelce
And I hate it. The iPad. But by the time we went to iPad, I. I never looked at the playbook one time. Yeah, you big notes guy.

Jason Kelce
This is our thing. Like, when's the last time you actually looked? I've not looked at a playbook. I mean, in years. You installed it three times a year your entire career.

Travis Kelce
You got to look over your. You got to look over your. Your work. You know, you've had the same tight. End coach, the same head coach.

Jason Kelce
Like, you're not installing anything new, and you're going to go over it in the media. No, you're gonna go over meeting every me every year. Andy Reese got a fucking no cards that are like the. Yeah, the little no cards. Yeah, I got you.

There's some new ones, but it's not like fucking. What? So many new ones already. We've got, like a hundred new plays that we just been installing in the offseason. You are over exaggerating this.

Travis Kelce
No, I'm not. We might not use all of them right now, but he's definitely installing them and, like, like, seeing, like, which ones he likes and which ones, like, pat feels most comfortable with and which ones look good on. On. On film. All right, well, it's different in the past game, in the run game, there's like, maybe like four or five new concepts a year.

Where you're like, run game. Yeah. Counter, inside zone. Outside zone. Well, we got a lead hat.

Jason Kelce
We got a full back going in there. All right, cool. Got that one. I have heard inside zone installed a fucking thousand times, and I always hate the way the playbook installs it. That's another reason I don't look at the playbook is because it's fucking stupid.

Like, nobody in their right mind goes out there. On inside zone, it says play side gap, comma, number two. Like, no, motherfucker. The senator guard are going there. I got this motherfucker.

Oh, the tackles going there. I got that motherfucker. Like, I'm not going through, like, the playbook definition. Oh, I got zero to the line. Oh, this is a 59 front.

Travis Kelce
So we got a. But that's not. I'm just. Okay. Running inside zone.

Jason Kelce
Where's the first guy fucking here? Yeah, we're. We're doubling to that guy. You guys figure the rest out. Like you said, it's just.

Travis Kelce
It's just for communication when you come off the field. That's all. That's all it's for. It's just because they have to have it and they have to have a beginning point. But, like, once you've already learned it enough, like, I'm not gonna go back and learn the other way because then it's, like, fucked up.

Jason Kelce
It's like, no, it's not how it is. It's like this. It's like fucking. I'm not thinking of it like that. You know?

I mean. Yeah. Do you think about it with routes similar? Like, how many times is there on a playbook? It'll be a route where you're breaking at whatever yardage, but in your head, you know that, like a disguise.

You know what I mean? I'm. I'm barely. I'm barely ever not running what's on the paper. Like, you're barely ever not running what's on the paper.

Travis Kelce
I'm always running what's on the paper. If it tells me I got to go ten. What? You. Are you shitting.

Who? Are you bullshitting me? I'm just doing what coach Reid wants me to do. I'm not fucking doing anything else. But even the ones where you're not freelancing, like, how many times is it for all of the guys I know you're fucking?

Jason Kelce
But how? This is a legitimate question. There's no. There's no just, like, freelance, all right? There's times where I get confused and I just.

Travis Kelce
I end up in the right place at the right time. Can we get back hunters? No, for everybody. Like any x receiver. How many times is he on paper?

Jason Kelce
It says to run it and break at ten. But everybody just knows that if it's this coverage, you're gonna push it in, like to twelve or you're gonna do this. It's. That's every single route in the playbook. That's what I'm saying.

Travis Kelce
Yeah, it needs to be that. But if we're gonna run routes versa, you better fucking run it like that. Gotcha. Like it says on the paper, like, if there's nobody out there, I'm running it. We're doing exactly like the paper, just so we can get timing.

I can feel what it. That. What the timing feels like of me running, hitting the break or like, you know, getting to a certain part of the field as, as the quarterbacks are getting ready to deliver the ball. That's, that's what you really need to. That's when, like, you're doing routes on air and you're just working in the off season, or you see pat throne with the wide receivers with no defense.

That's what you're getting down. You're getting down the timing that need that it's taking for you to get the ball on this certain play. You know what I mean? I think that's the biggest thing. And those, those lines, those lines on the paper are like, that's, that's essentially why they're there, obviously.

Every single route in my mind, every single route has to change depending on what coverage we're running it against. Yeah, I guess this is getting in what I think I'm trying to get at, and I think you're saying it really well. My biggest advice to all the rookies learning these plays and learning your playbooks for specific plays, try not to learn your job. Try to really think of the play as a concept and understand what's happening, because you shouldn't go on a field and think, I'm the guard. I have my play side gap, comma, number two or one on a, on a zone play.

Like, you should think of it like, hey, you gotta. This is weak inside zone, and this is how we're gonna run it. Like, I am gonna step with my play side foot, but if the center calls this combo, I'm running that one. If the tackle needs help, I'm gonna indicate his insight. Like, you need to think about what is happening in the overall structure of the play, and that will help you regardless of what the fucking playbook says.

Jason Kelce
I'm just being honest, like, it's more important that you understand what we're trying to accomplish as a unit than what your rule says in that. And in that like sheet, you'll naturally with reps get and understand those rules, you'll run something. The coach will come over to you like, hey, if it's covered too or if it's just this certain coverage, I need you to run it like that. Yeah. As long as you're open ears on the practice field, you're present while other guys are running routes.

Travis Kelce
And when you're it, when there's a film after practicing, you're watching the film and everything and you, you just be open ears and how everything's being taught to everybody in the room. Right. You know, like I'm listening to coach Reid talk to the running backs about, you know, foot placement in the run game, or I'm listening to the, I'm listening to coach Heck and how he's teaching these tackles to pull or how he's teaching these tackles to, you know, square up a guy in the, in the past game. Like I'm listening to everybody because I know that I, there's always a chance that I'm going to be put in a position like that and I want to be ready for it. Right.

You know, as long as you're open ears and you're understanding like the grand scheme of thing and what the team is trying to do, I think it's like you said, you'll learn those little intricacies of like the difference, like, of like running a route versus a certain coverage. You're naturally just going to develop that instinct. But understanding the grand scheme of things from the install, that was, I think you're, you're, you're dead with it. You're spot on with that one. Yeah, we have one play that stout still doesn't know how to write rules for and it's the funniest thing in the world.

Jason Kelce
Installs it every time is like, yeah, just run it. He's like, I don't really know what to write down for a rule, so I just write down this, but everybody kind of knows what they're doing. We got a little teach tape for you guys this week and this is perfect. This is me being an absolute idiot and just being at the right place at the right time. Jason.

Hey, I love it. I love it. This week we're breaking down one of my catches from last year's playoff games. We kind of talked about it after the Baltimore game last year in the playoffs, but teach tape is brought to you by simply safe. Hey, there's no safe.

Travis Kelce
Like simply safe. There you go. That's good. Clip from Guy Travis's crazy catch against the Ravens in the AFC championship game. Yeah.

All right, well, you see me circled. Right there, so I guess let's start it from here. It's third and five, basically a three by one, a common formation in our offense. This was a play that had a kill to it. So Pat actually, in the huddle, gave us two plays.

There was the first play and then he was. And then if he sees a coverage that he likes and wants to change the play to the second call in the, in the actual call in the huddle, he'll come up to the line and tell us. He'll give us a signal or say a word that'll then change the passing concept to another play. I was thinking it was a different play. Yeah.

Then you got Pat Mahomes just back there with his eyes on you, running around for his life and just putting the ball out there. There's really no teach tape other than when Pat Mahomes has the ball. Do not give up on the play. That's. That's the biggest teaching point here.

You got Ravens guys running into each other. You got the, our offensive line, Nikki Allegretti doing his job in their ass off. Yeah, they're blocking their ass off right now, and I'm over here picking my nose, not knowing what I'm doing. And then, yeah, once you lock eyes with Pat, you're like, oh, shit, he needs me. Yeah.

So I start running around right at the last second, right before pack gets his knees chopped out from under him. I kind of spring loose or at least get between my man and Pat so I can kind of box him out for the catch. This is crazy right here. The fact that Pat even threw this ball with the defenders back to him, I commend that. I commit.

Jason Kelce
Is that why he's doing that? Because he's like, you're really not that open. He just knows because the defender's back is to him that you're going to have a chance to make a better play on the ball than he is. I think that's notorious for a lot of. A lot of quarterbacks, defenders.

Travis Kelce
Back to you and my eyes on him. I think that's an advantage for us, especially a guy with an arm like pat or any of the really good quarterbacks. They can just place it. Yeah, absolutely. And it's.

It was third down. He wanted to give us a chance. He knew he had no chance of, like, getting the first down with his legs at this point. He's got all four, all five defenders on him. We know that there's a kill involved.

Jason Kelce
You missed the kill, you're running the wrong play. Let's take an opportunity to talk about scrambled drill, because that's really what this turns into, right? Is like, it's a broken play. Yeah. Like, so each, each player doesn't know where to go.

Travis Kelce
We were talking about the timing of the play. Typically, seven step drop from under center is like seven step in a hitch. You know, that's, that's the longest. Pat's going to, like, let a play develop essentially in it, or a quarterback is going to let a play develop. You'll go through your progression.

Seven step drop. Five, five and a hitch. Five and two hitches, and all of a sudden, clocks ticking. Defensive line is like they're rushing the passer, right. I got to make a decision.

I either got to go somewhere, hit the check down, get out of the pocket to try and make something shake, or just take off with my legs. So the quarterback, after that seven step drop or after, like that, the initial play is over with. Now I'm on to a completely different mindset as a scrambler. As a guy with a broke down play. It becomes more of, like, backyard football where, yeah, you got to understand the coverage and where guys are at in terms of, like, what the pass concept is.

But I knew that I screwed up the play initially, so I'm kind of just, like, feeling out, like, where everybody is. Pat kind of starts to get on the run. It's just like, all right, just let me give him somewhere to throw the ball some, like, see which, which way he's rolling out. See where everybody else is. Is it, man, is everybody latched on?

Is anybody latched on to me in terms of a defensive coverage? Is somebody. Am I just in frank, Frank air? You know, can I find an open space somewhere on the field? You try not to have your eyes leave the quarterback just in case, like, I don't know, he wants you right now, but there are times you can kind of peek around and see where everybody else is at, like I was doing here.

I'm not gonna take credit for this. This was all actually. I'm, I hate, I hate that people are even giving me credit. And a great catch. Yeah.

But I completely screwed Pat over. I'm supposed to be coming over the middle here on time, and Pat's just, like, kind of waiting for me to get open over the middle of the field and I'm running the wrong route. So I, um. I hate that this is even a teach tape thing. If anybody watching this, the teaching lesson would be, one, never give up on a play when Pat Mahomes has the ball.

And two, get in your fucking playbook, Travis. Balloons. I love it. You gotta love balloons every time. As you guys know, we're pretty serious about snacks around here.

Jason Kelce
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Ooh, who got a Jason, you got. Out of the house this weekend? We did. We actually, we went to the shore, but we're going to talk about the one everybody wants to know about. That's Travis.

Jason Kelce
Got out of the house. Yep. You're not gonna believe it. Haven't been in the house. Yeah.

Travis Kelce
This isn't even my house. I think we can all just a. Random theater somewhere on the west coast. You'll never find me. You'll never find it.

You'll never find me. Well, Trav, before that, you stopped by Dallas this week. That's right. Yeah. You stopped by Dallas to watch the Stars.

Yeah. NBA playoffs, baby. NHL Western Conference finals. Stars versus the Oilers. Yeah.

Both Western Conference finals. Yeah. Well, yeah, but we're going to start with Stars. How'd the game go? I don't know.

Jason Kelce
Was it a good game? It was awesome. The. The Stars came out, scored early. So did Edmonton.

Travis Kelce
Literally seconds after they scored their first goal. Edmonton came back and, like, threw one in the net, and then it was kind of a dead period. The stars were just knocking at the door the entire game, though, man. It was so much fun. It was like you.

They had you at the edge of your seat, the puck is just like slow motion, hits a crossbar, like, kind of just goes across the crease with nobody in front of the net. It was like that the entire night. And then finally they started cleaning up some of the. Some of the rebounds of some of the shots around the net and put two in. Had.

They had an empty netter. They pulled the goalie and had a head like a. Almost a full length empty netter. Oh, really? Yeah.

It was awesome. Those are fun. It was a fun. It was a fun time. I'll tell you what, man, Dallas, I know you aren't big fans of the Cowboys and all that.

That city just is so much fun, man. Dallas, such a. It is, man. It is. Everybody was.

Everybody was fucking awesome. Running into people before the game, during the game, even after the game, at all the restaurants, and kind of had, like, a little pregame with my guy Blake Bell in the game before that, before the NBA game or the Mavs game, and just everybody was awesome, man. And the. Dallas is about as legit of a sports town as it gets, man. Both those games had the arena absolutely rocking, man.

And it was. It was a good time. I love playoff hockey, man. There's nothing better than some playoff hockey, dog. It's the best.

Jason Kelce
Who. So much fun. Who'd you end up at the booth with? No, I saw Cole Hamills was up there.

Travis Kelce
Shout out to Cole. Bryson dechambeau. Got some free time from the. The live tour. Yeah, it was.

It was a good time, man. We were up there having some fun. Got to meet Marty Turco, old time stars goalie, legend in the Stars organization. And, oh, yeah, ran into Dirk Nowitzki, baby. Now, Whitney Davitski, however you want it.

I don't know how you pronounce it, man, but Dirk is. He's the man, dude. Just the coolest dude you could ever meet. Got to talk to him about a lot of the. A lot of his championship runs and just how much of a fan I was.

And, yeah, it was cool meeting him. And he is an enormous human being, as you would expect a seven footer be. But always shocking when you walk up on one of those mammoths, gangly. Yeah, dudes. So big.

Yeah. But, yeah, it was. The Stars game was fun, man. Well, I guess meeting Dirk might have been a little bit of foreshadowing. You ended up at the Mavericks Wolves game the very next night.

Jason Kelce
Which one was more fun, the. The Mavs game or the stars, man. As much as I love playoff hockey, that fucking mad was a good end game. It was a good man. It was.

Travis Kelce
Kyrie went off and dude, Kyrie out there dropping 30 in the moccasins, man. Dude, so good, man. Listen, man, I couldn't be more happier for him, the way his career has been. Obviously bringing a championship to Cleveland and the ups and downs he had, not only in Cleveland, but Boston and New York and all that. Whatever happened, he's.

He's absolutely killing it. And he looks like he's enjoying the fuck out of it. Him and Luca are one of the best combos I've ever seen on the, on the court. I mean, they just, that team complements each other so well, man. The Mavs really did a great job of putting that team together.

PJ Washington is a great piece for them. And then on the other side, man, the Wolves are a dangerous fucking team. Each one of these games have been so goddamn good. You can't say enough about what Anthony Edwards type of basketball player is, dog. When he rose up and had that dunk, and I think it was like the third quarter, oh, my fucking gosh.

I haven't. I haven't seen athleticism like that. Yeah.

Debate. Put that guy on a football field. Oh, my fucking gosh. There's no. Yeah, it's not.

It wouldn't be fair. It wouldn't be fair. That dude fucking took off from what it felt like twelve to 15ft away from the rim and was still elevating when he dunked the ball. It was unbelievable, man. The Mavs game was off the hook.

The Wolves are such a good team and Dallas is just playing flawless at the end. At the, into basketball games. Man, we had an interesting reception on the jumbotron with the Cabs. Cowboys fans were not too happy, but I got. I got booed twice.

It's whatever. I get it. I get. I'm not from Dallas. I'm just kind of like an innocent bystander.

I don't know. Maybe they. I don't know, maybe they don't. I don't know. They just don't like the Chiefs.

I don't know. Isn't. Isn't. If they were showing you, they had to be shown pat too, right? Yeah, but it was like, you know, they'll throw the name underneath and, like, try and specify who they're showing.

Like, they showed me. I got caught off guard because I was trying to take a selfie with some people around me and then Pat, like, kind of like, taps me. I was like, what's. I was like, I was like, oh, shit, I'm on the jumbotron. And I heard all the booze.

I'm just like, oh, shit, I'm getting booed. Okay. Guess this is happening. Nice. Thanks.

Nice to see you guys. Dallas. Appreciate the warm welcome. And then they showed Pat, and everybody was like, yeah, man, basketball player in the world, dude. I grew up a huge Jason Whitten appreciator.

The cowboys were always the fucking boys when they had Deon and. And Emmett and. Dude, I fucking. I used to want to be a stars, man. Shut stars.

I used to be. Want to be a star? I did. You should want to be a Dallas star. But I also wanted to be a cowboy there for stars on Mars.

Jason Kelce
Dude, stop saying that. Would you never wanted to be a cowboy. Why? Why would you have wanted to be a cowboy? Because they were fun as hell.

Travis Kelce
That team was electric. Big personalities. What team? Back in the nineties and then I. In the nineties, they were not bad.

Jason Kelce
They're pretty good in the nineties. But, like, I just remember having, like, action figures of, like, the stars. Which ones? I just named them all. Well, the ones you named weren't on those teams.

Witten wasn't around on those teams. Deon. Deon and Michael. Michael Urban. They were definitely there.

Travis Kelce
Emmett. Emmett, yep. Or Aikman. Aikman. Yeah, I'm gonna be doing Monday night with him.

Jason Kelce
Heard of him? Are you trying to call my bluff right now that this never happened? It's never happened. You never wanted a cowboy. I did.

Travis Kelce
I did. I fucked it up, though. No, they fucked it up. You didn't fuck up anything. No.

I don't know. I fucked up the interview. All right, I digress, though, and I think I also might need to find an outlet because I got, like, 15%. Well, let's hurry up then. We're almost there.

Yeah. Shout out to Dallas, man, I had a fucking blast. Love the NHL and NBA Western Conference finals. And always good to see when you go and, you know, enter somebody else's arena to see that thing absolutely rocking in the home, home team. Got a.

Got a win. So I was rooting for the Dallas Dallas Stars for sure. The Mavs and Timberwolves. I was kind of in between, but I can't fucking root against Kyrie and Luca, man. Those dudes are awesome.

I was more there for a good time at the Mavs game, but I was. I was cheering on the stars, dude. This is one thing, too. Was. I didn't know.

Jason Kelce
You're the same exact height as Luca. What is his listed height? He's. I mean, he's probably six six. He's a big dude.

Travis Kelce
I think he's got me by a little bit now. Dude, you're fucking right next to him. You guys are the same height. Basketball. It's my slovenian brother right there.

Jason Kelce
These basketball dudes be. Listen, their heights, low. Bogus. I always thought you'd be too short. Short to play like.

Like the three position in the NBA. Like, NBA's a three is like a legit 6768, right? Yeah, but you'd be too short to play center in the NFL, too, man. Maybe. Maybe we fucked this up, man.

You could be in the NBA right now.

Travis Kelce
I could be. I could be somewhere overseas playing. Because you're sick. You're. You're just.

Italian team. What? You're legitimately six five. Yeah, well, six four and seven eight. That's what the comb I got.

Jason Kelce
Yeah, but that's a six five. We'll round up an 8th of an inch. Luke. Ain't six seven if you're six four and seven eight. Dude, he was just chilling.

Travis Kelce
He was like. He was right here. He wasn't, like, standing all the way up. I ain't hearing it. Great dude, though, man.

Jason Kelce
Oh, yeah. Seems like it. Seems like it. Big fan. Jason.

Travis Kelce
Did you get out of the house Memorial Day weekend? Well, we went to Seattle. We definitely went to Seattle. Went to the beach. Had a lot of fun with the curls.

Jason Kelce
Ate a bunch of beach food. Nice. Yeah, we had a great time. There we go. All right.

Travis Kelce
Nice, man. Glad you guys got over to the shore, man. I miss the shore. Sure is fun. It was good to be out there.

Jason Kelce
It's the first really big weekend of the year, so all the businesses are back up and running, so. Yeah, it's like you never left. Heard you guys went over to Uncle Bill's. How'd you hear that? Who told you that?

Travis Kelce
Listen, I got eyes everywhere, baby. Timeout. Who told you we were going over to uncle Bill's? Yeah, I got eyes everywhere. Got them pancakes.

Best pancakes in the land. They are good pancakes. Which one were you at? I know there's a couple of them over there. Yeah, we used to go to the Uncle Bill's.

Jason Kelce
That was in Strathmere, and then that one closed. So now we either have to go to Avalon or Ocean City. So we went to the one over in Avalon this. This weekend. Made the trip over the bridge.

Travis Kelce
Oh, nice. You had to pay a dollar? Had to pay. I forget what it is. I think it's two.

Jason Kelce
They might have upped it. I don't know. We got the damn doors getting fucking pricey. Did they keep. I was across the bridge.

Travis Kelce
Fuck. Uncle Bill's seven mile special was $15. Damn. Yeah. No, right.

That shit is good, though. I paid it. I paid it. Shout out to Uncle Bills, everybody at the shore, and make sure you guys get fired up for that beer bowl deuce. All right, let's move on to some no dumb questions, because there's no such thing as dumb questions.

Just dumb people. Like two gibronis you're staring at right now. No dumb questions is brought to you by uncrustables, the best part of the sandwich. How about that from Heather Bradley on threads. If you could temporarily live in any board game, Jumanji style, like the movie it comes to life, which game would you choose?

This is actually pretty good question. Let's do it. I'm gonna go ahead and say fucking Jumanji. Yeah. I mean, Jumanji is pretty damn good.

Jason Kelce
That'd be a fun one. I feel like I'm already living a monopoly. I feel like I'm not to be. Like. That's like we're already doing that.

Travis Kelce
The older I got. Yeah. The older I got, the more I understood. Oh, wow. This is like a life game.

Jason Kelce
Oh, now I get it. Battleships would not be fun. What? Dude, I don't want to be on a freaking naval war getting sunk. The thing is, is that battleships is just a get.

Travis Kelce
It's just a guessing game. Yeah. There's no real, like, strategy. It's just kind of like, I don't. Want to live in it, though.

Jason Kelce
I don't want to get sunk and then drown. That doesn't sound fun. Like I'm out on. I don't. The ones that I'm not going into risk or battleships or.

Travis Kelce
No, life was a fun little board game. I'm already doing that one, so no need to go there. Which ones would be fun to go to? I think you strike me as a guy that would love to go into clue. I did love that fucking game growing up.

Jason Kelce
You love murder mysteries. Yeah. You'd be all over trying to figure out who dumb it. I mean, shit, Kylie killed Jason in the basement with the sword. I know, I know, I know.

The girls would all prefer candy land. That's where they would want to go. Yeah, I can't do that much candy. That's too much. I'm not going into candy.

Travis Kelce
I'm in on candy, but not like that operation. I'm not operating on nobody or getting operated on. No, I really wasn't in on that one either. What other board games are there? What am I missing?

Jason Kelce
Yeah. Checkers chess. No, that's not. You can't be in that game, though. Connect four.

Travis Kelce
No. Hungry hungry hippos. No, no, that's all I got. Yeah, I'm going. Jumanji, though, man.

There's just. Jumanji does sound like the most fun. I mean, they made a whole movie off it, and then they made another movie off of it. I mean, it's. Then they made another movie out of it.

Jason Kelce
There's a third one. I'm pretty sure there's three. Yeah. Wow. Am I mistaken?

Travis Kelce
Are there only two? Well, Jumanji. No, there's two. Jumanji, though, isn't really a board. Timeout.

Jason Kelce
What are we talking? Jumanji is not an actual fucking board game. Yeah, but it's a Jumanji style. It might be now, but you can't say Jumanji is not a board game. Yeah, it's a good point.

Travis Kelce
I'm just thinking I would want to fucking relive that movie. It's a great movie. Yeah, I guess. Monopoly. Monopoly sounds like the funnest.

Jason Kelce
Is there anything we're missing? Probably, yeah, I guess. Candy land. I got nothing. Nice.

Travis Kelce
You're going Candyland? I mean, just sounds like the most magical place and doesn't seem like it's too serious, so just go to have some fun. Nice. Can't die. Yeah, I'm just here to enjoy it.

Jason Kelce
Well, die from diabetes, but that about does it for no dumb questions. Brought to you by uncrustables. Uncrustables. The best part of the sandwich. Oh, no.

How close are you? 10%. All right. New heights show and tell, a new segment at my beach house. There were some gifts waiting from some patrons, so I thought, uh, we'd share that them.

Travis Kelce
Ooh. What you got there, bud? The first is we were walking around and we saw a lemonade stand and. Big lemonade stand supporter, dude, lemonade stand. So we were going to support on the way back.

Jason Kelce
We ended up not supporting it. So I'm kind of upset that I never got my lemonade. But we were walking to play pickleball, and we saw them, and they got a whole racket going on there. They said, yeah, we set up right after Churchill. It's out.

The church is right there. There. And everybody comes by and gets some lemonade. I was like, that's a pretty good system you guys got going on there. Brilliant.

And I came back to the house, and I was a little lemon before I left earlier today, sitting on the note. And the note read, dear Jason, Kelsey, thank you for stopping by at our lemonade stand on 44th street. We would like to donate some of our money to the Eagles Autism foundation. Gobirds. Kevin, Lucas, Olivia, Nathan, and Charlie.

Travis Kelce
How about big old family? That dude gotta love that guy. Like I said, like I said, they were. They were rolling. Oh, look at that.

Nice. Look at that. Are you fucking kidding me? How much is a lemonade? I think it was, like a dollar.

Jason Kelce
That's what I'm saying. These kids are killing it.

Travis Kelce
I've never seen a lemonade stand like that in my life. And people were paying in twenties, I think. That's just. They gave me one. That's funny as hell.

Jason Kelce
It's impressive. That's good stuff, though, man. I had another one that I think was left. I mean, this one might have been out there for a while, but it says, Mister Kelsey, my name is Vinnie Lynch. I am ten years old.

I am a big fan of yours and your brother, Trev. My dad showed me some videos where you were wearing a luchador mask. We thought you should have one in the eagles colors, so we brought you a gift. You were kind enough to take a picture with me at yum yums before. Thank you for being so nice.

I know it must be tough since so many people ask you for stuff, so I wanted to give you something. Your friend Vincent Lynch P's. My mom thinks we are crazy for giving you a mask, but we think it is cool. Nice, nice. You got another luchador mask.

Well, here we go, kids. Ooh. Oh, that thing is. That thing is gnarly. Also my not fit.

Travis Kelce
Oh, yeah.

You know, you kind of remind. You know, you kind of remind me of. I know exactly who you're about to say from Billy Madison. Billy Madison, the teacher. What is the revolting blob, dude?

Jason Kelce
So that might be my, uh, my wrestling name, if I had one. This one's good. I dig this one. That thing is, I think, sweet. Did you.

Travis Kelce
Did you keep the. The one you actually wore on Wrestlemania? We gotta send that back still, but, yeah, I still got that one. You gotta send that back. Oh, no, I got the Wrestlemania one, and I got the one.

Jason Kelce
I got three Luchardo masks now. Oh, you're talking about the case. You gotta get that one back to you. Yeah, we got to give that one back. We want to encourage more of this engagement from our fans.

We love it when you guys send cool stuff, but please don't send it to our house. We're gonna set up a PO box and set up some systems. You send it to my house is getting sent right back. Yeah. So we're gonna find ways that you guys can send things, and it will get seen.

Please don't send us anything that you want us to sign. We're not gonna sign it or anything that you really need sent back because that's not happening either. But anything that you think is cool that you want us to have, that we think is cool that we might. Might throw on the show, like this nutsack bowl. Yeah, send it on our way, guys.

Travis Kelce
Yeah, we'll make sure you guys get the. The PO box, and I'll tell you what. Mail time. Mail time. Mail time.

Mail time. All right. Maybe that becomes a segment. We'll see. That's it.

Jason Kelce
We're done. This one's in the books. Show close, Bonito. Make sure. Subscribe on YouTube to the new heist channel so you know when all the new episodes come out and we'll be back with a new episode next week.

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Travis Kelce
Follow the show on all social media at new heights. Show with one s and thank you to our production and crew. You guys are the greatest. And thank you to the 92 percenter. Hope you guys had a fun Memorial Day weekend.

Peace. Balloons. Where are the balloons? There they are.

Jason, is it the middle of winter? No, it's spring. Nice. Is it chilly out? Um, it was, uh.

Jason Kelce
It was rainy today. I wouldn't say it looks like something. A cardigan that you would wear in the winter. Well, sometimes I like to wear cardigans inside the house because. Feels comfy.

Travis Kelce
Like a robe. Kind of half a robe. I guess that's what a cardigan kind of is. Never thought about that. Not a big robe guy.

Jason Kelce
But I do like a good cardigan thing. I'm gonna get into robes. Robes? Yeah. What kind of a robe?

Travis Kelce
Sometime a robe, when you wear a robe outside, like. Like a coat. Kind of looks like a cap tape, you know? A little bit. Yeah.

Jason Kelce
Especially if you don't have a tied up front. What. What kind of robe are you going with? The lower. Not like a floor length.

Travis Kelce
Ooh. You know who's got a good one is a versace. Got a few good ones. Versace. They're known for robes.

Versace? Yeah, Versace. Versace. Is. Is that like Gucci?

Jason Kelce
It's italian, I believe, like dress wear. I mean, I've heard of it. I'm not acting like I've never heard of Versace, but I've never. I don't think I've. Yeah, you know, you've seen Versace before.

It's like menswear house. Yeah, basically.

Travis Kelce
Yeah, basically.