TikTok Sues to Block US Ban & Is the New iPad Worth It?

Primary Topic

This episode delves into TikTok's lawsuit against the US government to block its ban and discusses Apple's updated iPad, exploring whether it revitalizes its tablet line.

Episode Summary

In a spirited dialogue, hosts Neil Freiman and Toby Howell cover two main stories: TikTok's legal battle against a US ban and the new iPad's launch. TikTok has responded to Congress's mandate for its sale with a lawsuit claiming unconstitutional treatment and highlighting its inability to feasibly sell within the set timeframe due to technical and operational challenges. Meanwhile, Apple unveils its thinnest-ever product, the new iPad Pro, featuring an M4 chip and improved AI capabilities, albeit with criticisms about its market necessity and software ecosystem. The episode also briefly touches on a partnership between Instacart and UberEats aiming to compete against DoorDash in the food delivery market.

Main Takeaways

  1. TikTok's lawsuit claims a violation of First Amendment rights and argues against the unprecedented nature of its targeted ban.
  2. Apple's new iPad Pro aims to revive its tablet business with significant hardware updates and AI integration.
  3. The episode discusses broader impacts of corporate branding on trademarked food items like Broccolini.
  4. Insights into the evolving market dynamics of delivery services with a new partnership between Instacart and UberEats.
  5. Discussions on technological innovations and market trends in both the social media and consumer electronics sectors.

Episode Chapters

1: TikTok's Legal Challenge

Neil and Toby discuss TikTok's lawsuit against the US government, highlighting the platform's argument against constitutional violations and the logistical challenges of selling the company. Neil Freiman: "TikTok is literally fighting for its life in the US." Toby Howell: "The suit alleges that the US ban is an unconstitutional punishment of specifically TikTok."

2: Apple's New iPad

The new iPad Pro's features and market potential are debated, questioning whether it sufficiently advances beyond its predecessors. Neil Freiman: "I don't think Apple has proven that there is a real reason for being for the iPad." Toby Howell: "It’s more like a giant iPhone than a smaller, more portable computer."

3: Delivery Service Dynamics

Discussion on the strategic partnership between Instacart and UberEats to better compete in the delivery market. Neil Freiman: "Uber Eats will get new customers... and Instacart will add a new revenue stream." Toby Howell: "This partnership is a win-win in different ways for each platform."

Actionable Advice

  1. Consider the privacy and data implications when using apps owned by companies in countries with different legal standards.
  2. Evaluate new technology products not only on hardware improvements but also on ecosystem and software support.
  3. Stay informed about changes in digital rights and corporate policies that may affect your access to online platforms.
  4. For tech enthusiasts, follow legal battles and corporate strategies as they can indicate significant shifts in technology access and control.
  5. Explore strategic partnerships in your business model to leverage strengths and mitigate weaknesses in competitive industries.

About This Episode

Episode 318: Neal and Toby chat about TikTok’s fight to stay alive by suing the US government for its attempt to ban or force sale the popular social media app. Then, Apple launches its newest iPad, something that hasn’t been done since 2022. Next, a shake-up in the food delivery world with Instacart and Uber Eats teaming up to challenge DoorDash. Also, Nintendo announces its target release date for the successor of its highly successful Nintendo Switch. Meanwhile, an AI startup company hopes to change the narrative of autonomous cars with the backing of $1 billion. Lastly, a study ranks which city has the most millionaires and it's…no surprise – New York City.

People

Neil Freiman, Toby Howell

Companies

TikTok, Apple, Instacart, UberEats

Content Warnings:

None

Transcript

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Toby Howell
And I'm Toby Howe. Today, TikTok fires back at the government in its existential fight to survive. Then Apple dropped an updated iPad for the first time in years. But will it be enough to rescue it stuck in the mud tablet business it's Wednesday, May 8. Let's ride.

Neil Freiman
The most interesting thing I learned yesterday is that the word broccolini is trademarked. Yes, I can't tell you exactly what broccolini is, but what is not in doubt is that it is a registered trademark of fresh del Monte produce. The company has had the trademark for 25 years, but hasn't done anything to enforce it until last month when it started to run these big social media campaigns to remind the public that broccolini is not for everyone to use. I am the public in this scenario here because I had no idea that broccolini was not the name of the actual vegetable, but rather it's this trademarked brand name. So you're telling me that broccolini is like Band Aid or Kleenex or any of those.

Toby Howell
What other foods are trademarked? My whole world is corn trademarked. Corn is not trademarked, but a few are. I mean, popsicle jello, the krona, the double double burger from in n Out. And remember a few months ago we had this big fight over chili crunch chili crisp trademark.

Neil Freiman
So this is a thing that brands do want to do to protect their ip. But broccolini, I did not know was a trademark, actually is a crossbreed of broccoli and chinese broccoli, if you wanna know. So you did know what the actual bread was. Now, this is a perfect transition. By the way.

Toby Howell
Let's talk about the goodness that is the Wendy's cinnabon pull apart. So obviously the cinnamon sugar part of the pull apart is delicious, but the ooey gooey goodness comes from the cream cheese icing. Oh, you think the ooey gooey goodness comes from the icing? I think that's the dough you're thinking of, Neil? The dough is fluffy and fresh.

The icing is ooey and gooey. Wait, wait, wait. We're both wrong. The ooey gooey goodness comes from the cinnamon sugar mixing in with the perfectly melted frosting. One brings the ooey, the other brings the gooey, and together they make ooey gooey goodness.

Neil, you're a gosh darn genius. Of course it's all connected. I feel like Russell Crowe's character in a beautiful mind right now. I don't think I've ever said the words ooey gooey that much in my life. But the wendy's cinnamon pull apart makes you do strange things.

If you want to experience the. I'm not saying it again. The delicious Wendy's cinnabon pull apart. Head to wendy's dot morning brew to try it. Drake and Kendrick Lamar aren't the only ones releasing diss tracks.

Neil Freiman
Two weeks after Congress passed a law that forces Tick tock to be sold or get banned, Tick Tock left the studio and dropped its reply, a lawsuit against the federal government aimed at stopping the ban. The suit, which did not come as a surprise, argues that Congress is violating the First Amendment rights of TikTok users by blocking their ability to express themselves and gain access to information. TikTok pointed out that this was the first time in us history that a single platform was singled out by name for a permanent nationwide ban. The US government is prepared for this fight. They intentionally crafted the law so they can say, look, this isn't a ban.

Tick tock can still be available in the US as long as its chinese parent, Byte dance, sells it to an american owner. Remember, this law stems from the claim that Tick Tock's chinese ownership presents a national security threat because the chinese government could gain access to american user data or manipulate its algorithm to spread propaganda. And so a historic legal fight has begun. The government will need to prove that Tick Tock's national security risks justify curbing free speech, while Tick Tock is literally fighting for its life in the US. Hip hop could never manufacture this kind of drama.

Toby Howell
They absolutely could. But yes, Tick Tock's argument essentially boils down to this. The suit alleges that the US ban is an unconstitutional punishment of specifically tick Tock. It denies the company those equal protections under law by naming it specifically. And it also they say it amounts to an unlawful taking of private property.

One of the quotes from the suit is Congress has never before crafted a two tiered speech regime with one set of rules for one name platform, tick Tock, and another set of rules for everyone else. So Tick Tock is definitely trying to say, hey, we are being singled out in a way that's never happened before in the United States under the Constitution, so why should it happen now? One, one thing that came out from the suit that was interesting is that it said selling itself wasn't feasible. So we have everyone from Mister wonderful Kevin O'Leary to Steve Mnuchin to all these big wigs in corporate America trying to buy tick tock. It said that doing this within the nine month span or a twelve month span, that, that the law, the law requires is not feasible from a variety of perspectives.

Neil Freiman
First of all, it said it's a global app, so just cutting it off in the United States just doesn't work because all this content crosses borders. And another reason why it said it couldn't sell itself was just technical, because it has this algorithm. And to transfer the algorithm, the code base, to a new ownership group would just not work. You'd have to train a lot of engineers on this very complex algorithm that wouldn't be feasible. So it said, look, we basically, if we fail at this fight, at this legal challenge, we're just not going to exist by January 2025.

Toby Howell
One of the, my favorite nuggets, too, from the suit is that they're saying that one of the things that undermines the claim that the platform actually poses an, a threat to Americans is the fact that the Biden campaign continues to use tick Tock even after the law was signed. And then there's also the Washington Post reported that Trump's campaign is also discussing on whether to make an account or not. So they are bringing the receipts here and saying, if you really think this is such a big national security concern, why is your literal president of the United States on the platform even when the, the platform is banned on government devices? So tick tock is saying, listen, us government, you're speaking out of both sides of your mouth right now, and we're going to take you to court over it. Speaker one still, though the legal experts say that Tick Tock has a 30% chance of winning, it is still the underdog here, because when you have a bipartisan group of Congress, of lawmakers saying, this presents a national security threat and we need a curb free speech, that happens sometimes over the course of the United States.

Neil Freiman
History happens in pretty much every war where Congress says, hey, you can't criticize the government. There's a sedition act passed in civil war a revolutionary war, world war one like this happens, and the courts may defer to a bipartisan group of lawmakers where they say, look, you have a, you say there's a national security risk. We're not experts in this, but there's a big group of you who are looking at classified briefings and saying this is a big deal. So the courts just might say, look, we don't have enough information here and we have to defer to Congress. But Congress has said there's a lot of risks associated with tick tock.

They haven't produced anything yet. So over the course of this legal battle, we may see some of that evidence, or they would need to produce that evidence to make their argument that much stronger. Right. They need concrete evidence. Apple had one of their famous keynotes yesterday, and the product a jour was the much maligned and oft forgotten iPad.

Toby Howell
The iPad line has calcified in recent years, so it's in desperate need of a refresh. The title of the event, fiddling, was let loose as it finally let loose a new model of the iPad Pro for the first time since 2018. And it's definitely changed a few things. The new model is the thinnest Apple product ever. Not just thinnest iPad.

The thinnest product with a depth of just 5.1 mm. It also weighs a quarter pound less than its predecessor. Under the hood, there is a faster m four chip that can handle AI tasks. And just anecdotally speaking, this was probably the most that AI has been mentioned in an Apple keynote so far. So, in short, incremental improvements around weight and performance, with the dash of AI thrown in for good measure.

Last quarter, iPad sales dropped 17%, missing analyst estimates. But Apple is predicting a rebound this quarter. Neil, with what you've seen from this new edition, do we believe them? I don't know. If you go back to.

Neil Freiman
Go back to 2010, Steve Jobs got on the stage and introduced the iPad. And he said it was this third device somewhere between a smartphone and a laptop. And he says, if there's going to be a third category of device, it's going to be, have to be better at certain tasks, like email, photos, video, music, web browsing, than a laptop or a smartphone. Otherwise, it has no reason for being. And in the 14 years that have elapsed since, I don't think Apple has proven that there is a real reason for being for the iPad.

I mean, it does command 32% of the tablet market. It has created this big tablet market and it currently dominates it, but you rarely ever see iPads in the wild? The one time you do see iPads is if you go to a restaurant and you see a little kid playing on it with headphones, and their parents are an absolute bliss because this is an amazing distraction machine. Right. The question has been for 14 years straight, can this replace my laptop in?

Toby Howell
The answer has always been almost. And that's part of the issue that plagues the iPad system doesn't quite have the robust enough app ecosystem. It still operates on a mobile first operating system. So it's more like a giant iPhone than a smaller, more portable computer, which would be a lot more handy for people. And what's interesting, too, is that Apple almost self sabotages its iPad business because it wants to protect its MacBook line.

It doesn't really want to make a laptop killer because it makes laptops as well. So it's just this very unique butterfly, but it almost clips the wings of that unique butterfly. Are you ready to write off the iPad? I'm not ready to write it off, per se, because if it can move from a consumption device, like you said, where you plop your kid down, put peppa pig on and just let it ride. Have a dinner.

Yeah, let it ride. Have a nice date night for the first time in a while, versus an actual creative device where, I mean, you can do fun things on it, like photo editing. There's some good artistic softwares on there. And if you. If.

If Apple does make a commitment to boosting up those things with that little sprinkle of AI, whatever their plans are around it, in that regard, I think it has a chance because it is portable, it is smaller than our computers. And now it has this, you know, this bigger keyboard that you can attach that will cost like $250. This is a very expensive. Did you get into the prices, like $1,300 for the iPad Pro? 13 inch.

Neil Freiman
So this is a very expensive device. So it really needs to have the same sort of feature parity with a MacBook, which also costs way over $1,000. So, yeah, I don't think we're ready to write, write off the iPad. It just needs better software. I think that's the main criticism around the iPad, is that it hasn't engendered this robust developer, third party developer ecosystem through the App Store that the iPhone has had.

So just when you go on the iPad, there's not that many things to do, and it's found a niche in certain creative industries, but it has definitely not led to mass market consumption or adoption. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. It applies to rooting for the giants against the cowboys, and it applies to the market for delivery apps. Yesterday, rivals Instacart and Uber said they were teaming up to create a delivery partnership of epic proportions to knock leader DoorDash off its perch. Here's how it'll work.

When you log into Instacart to order groceries over the coming weeks, you'll see an option for restaurant delivery powered by Uber Eats. Everything about this feature is run by UberEats. The restaurant listings, the software for the transaction, and the people delivering your food. It's just located on the Instacart app. The unusual deal is intended to be beneficial to both apps.

Uber Eats will get new customers, in particular, desirable suburban families. Instacart tends to attract, and Instacart will add a new revenue stream because Uber is going to pay it a fee for every restaurant order working together like scheming catan players, Instacart and Uber are hoping to take market share away from DoorDash, which is sitting pretty atop the restaurant delivery industry. Toby, is this a smart partnership? I think it's definitely a win win in different ways for. For each platform.

Toby Howell
I do think this is an effort for both of these platforms to shake off kind of the post pandemic growth malaise. Because remember, during the pandemic, these companies ripped at home food delivery and at home grocery delivery became this really, really big industry. But now they're looking for ways to accelerate growth. Now that it's the market's become a little more saturated, then I also think that the VC money spigot has turned off a little bit. Remember these companies, Uber is publicly traded.

Neil Freiman
All of them are. Yeah, they're all publicly traded at this point. So they have a duty to shareholders to become a little bit more profitable. And so expanding into non restaurant deliveries if you're Uber, and then getting the scale that Uber provides if you're Instacart, is definitely something that I think will shareholders were like, yeah. And one thing I think this does is get more eyeballs onto both these apps, and the eyeballs translate to impressions, which translates to ad sales.

And for both Instacart and Uber, they are. They are diving into the ad business because it is insanely profitable. And Uber is now expecting to do a billion dollars in ad sales this year. For Instacart, ad sales account for 20% of its entire revenue. So the more people you can draw to the app, the more ads you can sell against those eyeballs.

And this is a huge growth opportunity. For both these apps, and that's exactly what they're trying to do with this partnership. Right. And ads are actually a high margin business. Like, this is a very thin margin business.

Toby Howell
So anytime that you can add on that, like, juicy margin business, which is advertising, of course you're going to want to do that. If we look ahead a little bit. Uber is, uh, reporting first quarter earnings today, actually. Um, and they are expecting gross bookings to slow, um, a little bit. Doordash actually reported great growth.

Gross bookings grew 21% last week. So it is trying to go toe to toe and match the, the big elephant in the room, which is doordash. Up next, how does Nintendo follow up on its ultra successful console, the Switch?

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Neil Freiman
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Toby Howell
How do you follow up the third best selling console ever? That is the question Nintendo has been grappling with for over seven years now as it tries to come up with a worthy second act to its massively popular Switch console. But finally, fans have something to look forward to. Nintendo's president officially confirmed that the company will make an announcement about the successor to the Switch within this fiscal year, which ends on March 2025. So, Nintendo fans, you'll get a console sometime before then.

The nearly eight year gap between the launch of the Switch and its eventual successor would be historically long for console hardware, which usually gets a new model every five to six years. That said, Nintendo did wait nine years between the Game Boy and the Game Boy color, so fans are used to waiting. Neil the Switch has sold 141 million total units since 2017. 15.7 million of those were sold in the last year. It's only trailing the PS two and Nintendo DS in terms of total units sold.

So before we get into what this new console might look like, it's been one heck of a ride. Yeah, let's play closing time. Run the slideshow and just talk about the switch in this incredible run that it's had. The Nintendo shares have more than quadrupled since Switch's launch. Its margins have increased more than five fold.

Neil Freiman
And so maybe you can tell you can speak to this better than me, but in 2017, I mean, Nintendo had just come out with the Wii U before that, which was kind of widely panned. And then it comes out with this switch, which is this remarkable, beautiful device where you can play it as a handheld device and also you can link it up to your tv to play as a traditional console. And it blew people's minds and it blew away every single sales projection that you could get to be. Got to sell 141 million units, including 15.7 last quarter. It's still going strong.

Toby Howell
Yeah, last year. And it also is just one of those consoles that is buoyed by the wealth of games that is played on it. That's the real thing. Cause we were talking like, what did make the Nintendo Switch so special? And it is a nifty piece of hardware.

You can put it in your home, use it as a console, or you could bring it on the plane, it can travel. It is a handheld device. But the games just are the thing, the magic dust that makes Nintendo do so well. Remember Legend of Tears of Kingdom is probably the best example of this. Absolutely brought some life into the tail end of the switches career.

It's one of the best selling games of all time. And I do think that part of Nintendo's secret is that they do make low cost hardware, because if you look at the likes of Sony and Microsoft, which make the Xbox and PlayStation, they actually lose money on the hardware selling of those consoles, then make it back over time through selling games. Nintendo does not lose money on the Switch. It is a much less complex device. It's smaller.

They make money on their hardware and then obviously make a ton of money on the millions and millions of games they sell. It just has amazing buzz. We talked about this around the office yesterday, and everyone was like, should I get a Switch? I think I should get a switch. You know, everyone like, what kind of wants it?

Neil Freiman
My brother has one at home. He loves to play it. And so it is just this amazing device that's done so well. Third best selling console of all time. You can't speak about it enough.

And then Nintendo in general is also expanding its ip universe. It has these theme parks opening, and last year it had this huge billion dollar movie, the Super Mario Brothers movie, and it's releasing another Nintendo movie April 2026. So that should be good. And another revenue stream for Nintendo getting into the movie business. Briefly, though, what is this new Switch going to look like?

Toby Howell
We don't know. Going back to the Switch? Yeah, we don't know that much right now. We do know the screen is going to be bigger, and then it might replace the rails on the side. You can kind of slide the controllers on and off via these rails.

They're changing those to magnets, and those are pretty much the only two leaks that we feel confident reporting on right now. That's all you're going to get so far. So stay tuned till March 2025, when maybe the new and improved switch comes out. Wave, a startup that makes AI systems to power autonomous vehicles, raised a huge $1 billion fundraising round from powerhouse investors including SoftBank, Microsoft, and Nvidia. But here's the thing.

Neil Freiman
This AI company isn't based in Silicon Valley. It's not based in New York. It's not even from Miami or Austin. No, Wave is actually from London. And its $1 billion round is the largest known investment in an AI company in Europe ever.

So what puts wave in the premier league of AI startups? Instead of generative AI, the company focuses on what it calls embodied AI, which you can think of as the brains for physical objects like cars, robots, or manufacturing systems. It creates software that allows vehicles to see and react to unpredictable driving environments, something that'll be necessary to make autonomous cars viable on real life roads. And unlike Tesla, wave is in itself building cars. The plan is to license its self driving tech to automakers and retailers that want to go autonomous.

Toby, the UK hasn't had an innovation win like this since the Apple fell on Isaac Newton's head. It absolutely has not. It is, you see the. What it means to the UK ecosystem and the AI startup ecosystem, because when you hear the founder say things like, it sends a crucial signal to the market of the strength of the UK's AI ecosystem. You don't necessarily always hear a founder talk about the broader landscape, but it's clearly almost a promotion for, for the UK and Britain, in a way.

Toby Howell
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak also said that the deal anchors the UK's position as an AI superpower. So they're holding wave up as this trophy, this icon in a class of innovation in a country that has been a little bit behind in terms of the AI revolution and a continent. I mean, the other AI startup that you should watch from Europe is Mistral, which is a french generative AI developer that's co founded by three guys from Meta and Google, and they raised more than $100,000,000.04 weeks into their existence. So if you're looking at the Europe landscape, it's so far behind the, the american AI landscape, we have the magnificent seven and Silicon Valley and this huge VC ecosystem. But Mistral and waves seem to be like the two european companies, european startups that are making waves in AI.

And I do want to talk about their business model a little bit, because you're right, they are not building any real hardware. They're not like Waymo, who has those very distinct looking cars with the cameras on top that get a little bit of hate back in the Bay Area. But yeah, they are selling software that wants to integrate into existing cars. And I think that's interesting too, because they've rebuffed the advances of a lot of car companies who wanted to invest in this latest round, because those car companies are licking its chops and saying, if we could get wave software to ourselves, maybe in the same way that GM ended up buying cruise, that would be a big leg up. But they said, no, we want to stay independent.

We want to license it out to fleet operators and auto manufacturers. And I think it's a good strategy and it probably benefits the entire ecosystem more than if one company had kind of snapped them up. Yeah, there have been a lot of setbacks in terms of self driving and driver assistance. The feds are investigating Tesla and GM over these fatal crashes that have gone on. But the fact that this company is getting a billion dollars and there's tons of investment, Tesla's essentially staked its future on autonomous and self driving.

Neil Freiman
It does seem like there's a lot of momentum going in that direction. And perhaps these setbacks are just setbacks. Don't give up on autonomous vehicles just yet. A report just dropped ranking the wealthiest cities in the world. And the city that came in in number one.

Toby Howell
Well, I can't quite believe it, but it's Cleveland, Ohio. I'm just kidding. It's New York City. That's harsh. Henley and Partners, an immigration consultancy firm, put together a report that found that New York has almost 350,000 millionaires, the most of any city and up 48% from a decade ago.

That means an insane one in every 24 of its 8.3 million residents is a millionaire. So yes, if you're in New York City right now listening to this on your commute, look around the subway or the street. One out of every 24 people is pushing seven figures. Heck, it could be you. As for the rest of the list, San Francisco came in second with 305,000 millionaires.

Tokyo came in third. But the number of millionaires actually dropped 5% in the past decade. Singapore was fourth and was also the top destination for migrating millionaires with about 3400 high net worth individuals moving there last year alone. Neil, any surprises here? I honestly can't quite believe that one in 24 number from New York City.

Neil Freiman
Yeah, I mean here's some more stats. New York's millionaire population is now larger than the entire populations of Orlando or Pittsburgh. And New York residents have more than $3 trillion in wealth. That's greater than the gdp's of Brazil, Italy or Canada. So all this talk about wealth migrating from New York to Florida and other Sunbelt states, it doesn't appear to be happening.

And New York really is a playground for the rich which is reflected in insane housing prices. But the real reason why New York is so rich and the Bay Area is so rich and there's all these millionaires in these big cities is basically ask yourself the question, who has the most exposure to tech stocks? Who has like 0.01% of Microsoft? Because that is, according to the report, the main driver of millionaire wealth across the world is the rise in financial assets over the past few years. The Nasdaq is up a zillion percent over the past few years since the depths of COVID So if you are exposed to tech stocks, if you have a portfolio of stock assets, then that has gone up and you are likely sitting pretty.

Toby Howell
The US is also home to eleven of the top 50 richest cities. And then I do want to talk about that so called power shift from New York City to Miami. Miami came in at 33rd on this list. It's up 78% over the past ten years, so it's not slouching, but it's nowhere near close to New York City yet. Some cities have actually seen their millionaire population reverse.

London, we were speaking of the UK earlier, lost 10% of its millionaire population in the past decade. Probably had something to do with Brexit. Russian sanctions have also impacted London and England a little bit. Hong Kong also saw a 4% decline as well because China's pandemic era crackdown. So there are some cities that are reversing their fortunes and places like Singapore are happily welcoming them in.

Especially the chinese millionaires who or Hong Kong millionaires who wanted to expat Singapore. Let's end this on the on a positive note, which are the cities that are rising, the ones to watch that are adding double, more than double the amount of millionaires over the past ten years? Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam Bangalore, India and Scottsdale, Arizona. So funny to me that was. I'm not surprised though.

I'm not surprised either. Do you remember when Spotify last year came out with their Spotify wrapped listening profiles? Mine was Scottsdale, Arizona. So I don't know what that says about me. Maybe I have highfalutin taste.

Neil Freiman
All right, let's wrap it up there. Thanks for listening and have a wonderful Wednesday. It's going to reach 86 today here in New York. Many acs will get the call up for the first time this year. For any feedback on the show, send a note to Morning brew Daily@morningbrew.com.

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Toby Howell
Let's run it back tomorrow.