Spring Cleaning 101 with Clea Shearer and Joanna Teflon of The Home Edit - how to edit, organize and systemize your home

This episode focuses on effective strategies for spring cleaning and organizing your home with expert advice from Clea Shearer and Joanna Teflon of The Home Edit.

1. Start small with spring cleaning by tackling one area at a time.
2. Use the right tools and products, like clear bins and labels, to maintain organization.
3. Involve children in organizing to teach them skills early.
4. Regularly edit your belongings to avoid clutter accumulation.
5. Implement systems that match your lifestyle to maintain long-term organization.

1: Introduction

Overview of the episode's focus on spring cleaning with guest introductions.
Molly Sims: "Today's guests have made such an impact on my life, especially on my home organization."

2: Organizing Principles

Discussion on the importance of starting organizational habits in children and using structured systems for different home areas.
Clea Shearer: "We start early with training kids to be able to take care of spaces in preschool."

3: Product Launches

Clea and Joanna discuss their new product lines and book releases that aid in organizing and cleaning.
Joanna Teflon: "Our new cleaning line aims to make the process aesthetically pleasing and practical."

4: Practical Organization Tips

Tips on decluttering spaces like closets and pantries, emphasizing emotional decision-making during the process.
Clea Shearer: "Editing and organizing should be approached as two separate processes for effectiveness."

5: Audience Q&A

Addresses questions from the audience on specific organizing challenges and solutions.
Joanna Teflon: "Always cater your organizing systems to the space you have, not the items."

1. Dedicate time to edit your belongings separately from organizing them.
2. Label everything clearly to maintain the system.
3. Introduce children to organizing with simple, fun tasks.
4. Use versatile storage solutions like clear bins to group similar items.
5. Regularly revisit and adjust your organizing systems to fit your changing needs.

Clea Shearer and Joanna Teplin are very special to Molly. In fact, she met them years back as they were doing what they do best: organizing. Cut to “Get Organized with The Home Edit,” which Molly produced, and these two women have easily become the most famous (and best) organizers on the planet. Given we are fully in spring, we figured why not have them on to talk all things spring cleaning. It’s a dreaded subject for some but they offer fun tools to make the process less daunting. From the pantry to the closet to the difference between editing and separating, if you’re in the need of a spruce up, this episode is for you.

People

Clea Shearer, Joanna Teflon, Molly Sims

Books

"Let's Put That Away," "The Home Edit for Teens"

Content Warnings:

None

Molly Sims

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Hey, I'm Molly Sims. And I'm Emisha Gormley. We're two girls obsessed with one thing, beauty. And by that, we mean everything that makes you look and feel beautiful. We're calling on our favorite health experts.

Emese Gormley

Industry insiders, and friends to answer all. Your beauty questions with a drink in hand. Definitely with a drink in hand. You're listening to lipstick on the rim with Molly Sims, today's guests. Oh, are they important to me?

Molly Sims

Have they made such an impact on my life, on my family, but most importantly, on my home? I met these two lovely ladies back in 2015 when they came into my life and completely revamped my pantry. It's such a good story, and I have to say, I was so inspired that when I moved into my own house, it looks like you came into my pantry.

Cut to we have Clea and Joanna from get organized with the home edit. The home edit, as I like to call them. They don't just go as Clea and Joanne like. They're one. They're a unit.

They're two, but they're one. I'm so proud of them. They're going to unveil something that I don't even know, that something's around the corner. They're going to talk about their new tv show. They're going to talk about what they do.

But most importantly, today on this episode, we're going to be talking about spring cleaning 101. And I tell you, a lot of people say, how do you get organized? It is through Clea and Joanna, their process, their team, how they do it. They have how many books now out? Three books, and some exciting things on the way.

So I love you. I can't wait to see you. They also has expertise in organization to design a line of products sold in 25 countries. They have an exclusive with Walmart. Think everything from bags to notebooks.

And they just launched it not too long ago. An amazing new cleaning line, which I'm gonna let them talk about. But I'm just so excited to have you both in front of me because I miss seeing your faces all the time. And la la land. We miss you guys.

Yeah. This is such an honor. Always can't wait to see you in person, though, again. I know. I think you were here when I was away, but I'm coming to Nashville.

I'm coming. I'm gonna do maybe, like, a little wise trunk show. I'm gonna ask you guys to help me host it. Okay, let's catch up. Let's do our catch up first, and then I promise you, we're gonna go into spring cleaning.

Tell me everything. Okay. That's how I feel about you. Whenever I see you, I'm like, molly, tell me everything. I know.

Clea Shearer

I'm like, what? Like, there's so many things to tell you and to talk about. Do you wanna hear our very exciting breaking news of what's coming out finally? That would be. Yes.

Molly Sims

Yes. Okay. We have two, not one, but two different books coming out. We are officially launching into the children's publishing space. Wow.

Clea Shearer

So we have a board book called let's put that away, like, for young kids. Get them started early. So it's amazing. You're going to want to eat the book. You're going to literally want to eat it.

And then we have a book that we are so proud of. It's called the home edit for teens, and it is teaching young adult children. To budding people, getting people. And we set up the systems for them and give them the exact guidance and tools that they need to actually take care of their rooms and the household spaces themselves. No more excuses.

Emese Gormley

I love that. I love that so much. Okay, walk us through the book. I can't wait. Okay.

Clea Shearer

Okay, so let's start with the home edit for teens, because it's obviously, you know, Stella just turned 13 this week. Miles turns 13 in a couple of weeks. You know, we. We are at the forefront of this challenge. One of the main questions that we get asked all the time is, is there any point in even trying to get organized if I have kids?

And that is, like, it makes me want to, you know, jump up and down and. And fly out the window, because I'm like, of course, the functioning people in your household that have. They are fully capable and able to take care of their spaces and to appropriately put things away. We just need to give them the tools to be able to do it. And we start early with training kids to be able to take care of spaces in preschool.

Right. Like, they're able. Hence the board book. Hence the board book. Right.

Like, we're getting them all at all ages. But, you know, kids are taught in a kindergarten classroom setting to put their toys away. You know, the teacher is not running around on their hands and knees putting away every single toy. That's part of it. Clean up, clean up.

Part of the cleanup process. But part of it is, I think, always on the parents. Cause, like, I know that my mom, I could make the biggest mess in the world, and she would put all my toys away. And I do that with my one daughter, my oldest daughter, ingrained in her Mae will. Her bedroom looks like, literally, it was cleaned and military corners on her bed every morning before she goes to school.

Emese Gormley

But that's genetic, and it did not come from me, as Molly knows. I mean, the truth is, kids. Kids shouldn't be expected at this age to know exactly what to do. There's a. There's kind of an education gap between kindergarten and adulthood, and we are there to fill that.

Molly Sims

Will you talk about that system that you set up? Because, listen, I think it's the system that you have brilliantly coined, for lack of a better word, but that system is real. Like, when you're in the mud room, when you're in the pantry, like, my kids know this goes. This is their. Like, the books, when you color code them, red, yellow, blue, like, put the book back.

Like, you have made it really easy for the adults. I can imagine how much this book is going to blow up, because teens do need that structure. They do need. They do, and they love it. Honestly, they look for structure, I think.

Joanna Teplin

So if we can provide it for them, great. And they also love ownership. I mean, I think a lot of times, organization goes off the rails, because everyone's like, that's not my problem. That's not my space. You know, so everyone doesn't feel that ownership.

But when you're catering to a specific space that someone owns, people are invested in keeping it organized and clean, and, you know how they want it to look. And also, like. I mean, Scarlett just turned nine a few days ago, but I walked in her bathroom the other day, and she's like, I redid all of, like, my headbands and my barrettes. I replaced it with all my skincare. And she's taken all her lucite things that you had gotten her that had the bows and all of that.

Molly Sims

I don't even know where I think the bows are now. In the drawers. But her little layered system of, like, her lucite, where I think Clea and Joanna made it so pretty, it's now perfectly stacked, tiered into that little system, into her serums and face masks. Serums and face masks that she doesn't need. But our kids will never have acne.

Clea Shearer

Our kids are gonna grow up. They're going to have no skin issues. I don't even know what life they're going to lead. This was. No, I know.

Joanna Teplin

Marlo has a skin regiment that I don't even understand. She has to tell me. She's like, have you used this new cleanser? And I was like, I don't. Marlo.

I don't know what that is. So, Scarlet just started spring cleaning. I think a lot of people have started to tackle. I know I have it on my to do list to tackle my closet. How do we.

Emese Gormley

And where do you suggest one starts? Because it can be very overwhelming if you are not as organized as Miss Molly by nature. I swear to God, on the day of her birthday, four drawers. Remember, in the mud room? So I've, like.

Molly Sims

Brooks has two drawers because he plays so many sports. Scarlett has a drawer. Gray has a drawer. The amount a complete trash bag taken out of those four drawers, because they've been on so many teams, and they get a uniform, and I'm like, but they don't use this uniform anymore. Yeah.

Where do we start? I started in that. I think that that's actually brilliant for you to start right there, because I think when people get really overwhelmed at the concept of spring cleaning, they think about the whole house, and that's absolutely not. You do not need to do that. You need to tackle something that you can, like, bite size, you know, within one contained area, just like, the mud room, and then.

Clea Shearer

And don't think about the rest of the house. You know, you can do this in phases by all means, like. And use the motivation you get and the energy you get from cleaning out that one space and having that trash bag full of, you know, a donation pile and. And letting that fuel you to move on to the next space. But I think the.

The most daunting for spring cleaning purposes is always going to be the closet. You know, there are different. There are different layers of complexity when it comes to organizing projects. When it comes to spring cleaning, that editing out piece, the closet is. Is always gonna be the trickiest, because if you sprinkle clean your pantry, you're like, is this expired?

Or is this not, like, is it. Am I still eating this? Am I not? You know, it's kind of, like, much more cut and dry in terms of the editing process. The closet is just always gonna be tough.

Emese Gormley

So much emotional attachment in the closet. For me, and there's for everybody, honestly. And if it's not an emotional attachment, it's like this. Like, am I gonna fit into that size again? What are your tips for that?

Like, what would you say if you're cleaning your closet? Cause I know I'm a hoarder, and now I have three daughters, and I'm like, but maybe in, like, ten years, like, this dress is gonna come back in fashion. And, like, I'd love for them to have, literally, I have now hidden stuff in my crawlspace, in my attic. Okay, did you go into my office? You know, they're coming to my house in a few weeks, so they had me do the first edit.

Molly Sims

22 bags. I couldn't do it. I'm gonna be like, well, they might come back and style. Molly's exactly right, though. The first tip is to think about the editing in a separate, a separate time than to do the organizing, because it's two separate things, and it's too much to do all at the same go, it becomes way too overwhelming.

Joanna Teplin

So if you're like, okay, today is going to be the edit, and you can emotionally prepare for that, like, you know what you're going to be, what the obstacles are probably going to be. Is this going to fit? Am I going to like this in a couple of years? You know, do I want to hand this down to my child? All those things, you know, what's going to come up for you?

So then you can mentally prepare for that piece separately from, like, okay, how do I want this to look in my closet? Also made a big difference because I thought you guys were coming. This was, like, five or six days ago. And they're like. And so I'm like, okay, gotta get it done.

Molly Sims

I've gotta do it. You're fine. Like, I've gotta do it. By the way, I did it in one and a half days. I spent two and a half hours and, like, an hour, and I I crushed.

I had my coffee, I had my tea, I had a liter of water. I had everything in there. It was like, literally, I'm like, running a marathon. I'm like, let's go. A girl who works with me named Alex, and I finally looked at Alex, I go, listen to.

Cause I'm like, what do you think? She goes, I love it. And I'm like, okay, no, this isn't gonna work. You are not clean, Joey. This is not, this is not gonna work.

I'm like, you have to be hardcore if you can have someone with you in the closet, not Mike, but anyone that can be like, okay, Mike, would. Be like, how much did you spend. On all this crap? You can't go down that road. Yeah, well, the other thing, too, that.

Joanna Teplin

We always say to anybody, because it's true. If you have a tiny apartment in New York City or if you have a humongous house somewhere, you either get the item or you get the space. You don't get both. So at some point, you run out of space, no matter how big your space is. And so that, to me, that's what I use.

I'm like, okay, do I want this to be crammed, or do I want to have, like, breathing room? And that is what helps me determine.

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Emese Gormley

Best term. I think it was actually Mimi that said this. She was like, you always want to have negative space. So then I think she got that from us. Yeah.

Clea Shearer

There you go. There you go. Just from you, she probably did. There you go. She's the one that walks into my closet and has a panic attack.

Molly Sims

Yeah. Negative space is really important. It's what we talk about in our very first book. We call it the golden rule of editing. You want your space to be no more than 80% full.

Clea Shearer

It's kind of like with eating the 80 20 rule. You want to leave that 20% room for not being overly stuffed. You know, when you're overly full, it doesn't feel good in your body. It doesn't feel good in your home. And having that room for me is.

Is really important. I never want my closet to feel too full. It's. It's also. It's not doing me a service.

And it's not doing my items any service either, if they're just hanging on a hanger, getting dusty. I mean, what. Clearly, I need to not think that, well, someday I might wear it. I'm not wearing it. Like, I'm just not.

And if it comes back in style, well, I'm going to have to buy that new style again, because it just. This, it is. It's making it hard then for me to find what I actually do want to wear and, you know, getting. Getting to the root of actually the clothing that I. That I like.

But it takes some really hard decision making. And I think Molly's right. Having a friend with you to cheerlead you and support you, but also tell you the tough truth is really important. And again, what you do, what you said, ditch it, donate it, keep it. Like, have your piles be strong, be clear with your pillars.

Molly Sims

Also, what I think, you know, listen, you've made organizing, for lack of a better word, super chic. Like, you, your accessories, how you help make the closet look amazing, the mud room look amazing, the pantry look amazing, the freaking garage look amazing. Can you pick a few items that every family needs from your line? Because your line at Walmart is stellar, high end and affordable. Like, it's an incredible.

It's incredible what you've done. I would say, first of all, thank you so much. And we're. We're really, really proud of these items. You know, I mean, they are game changing, right?

Joanna Teplin

We were selfish when we made them because the thing is, is that they were missing from the marketplace. We made them for us because we needed them. I think that number one thing that you can never go wrong with are clear, all purpose bins. They work for everything. They are good for everything.

Clea Shearer

You can take them to, like, the black belt level and have them all label and subdivided and categorized within the category. And, you know, you can get as organized as you want. But even if your items just make it into the bin and are separated by, you know, from other items, you know, even if you don't do micro organizing, that is such a big win. If you can just get your items contained, that's like. I mean, if you can edit down your items to what you want and then contain them, that's like 90% of the way there, you know, you don't have to overthink it.

Molly Sims

The clear bins are. I have probably 50 of them from you guys. They're amazing. And I love, like, you can also buy the labels from the home edit. You can go on their site.

You can order them. I have them. She has them. She did it. And they're so good.

It's like, literally, you did her pantry. And I will say this, too, and I think it's for. Cause this is, like the yin and the yang at the organizing. Like, I am a hot mess. Like, Molly can't walk into the guest room.

Emese Gormley

I stay in because my clothes are everywhere. You know, I am not. Like, I'm not naturally organized. I get OCD about the weirdest things. But when I do organize, like, I have two spots in my home that I have followed your rules with, and I'm gonna give the example that I think, for every household in America, they need this.

If you don't have a pantry under your sink. So when I lived in New York City and I would open under my sink, everything would topple over onto me, and it was like I would literally shove something and really quickly slam the door so nothing would open and fall. I followed your system that I found on your instagram how you organized the. Under the sink, and I ran, and I bought your containers, and this was three plus years ago. My husband looked at me and goes, you will never maintain that.

Molly Sims

To this day, it still looks like. I did it yesterday. Because there's a system. Yep. Right?

Clea Shearer

That's all it takes. And if I could do it to. The rest of my house, you would be so much happier visiting me. But the system is what you guys are so incredible at. It's unbelievable.

Organized person, simple. That's why the teen book, for us, is such a no brainer, because I think that people really assume that organization is tough and hard to maintain. But the truth is, it just takes some energy and effort at the beginning, and then it should be plug and play, you know, kids from all ages, adults, husbands, wives, partners, roommates. Everyone should be able to follow a very simple system. Don't over it.

Joanna Teplin

Got mislabeled. Like, when. When it first started, somebody out there said, organization is so hard. Don't even bother. And I feel like that caught on, and it's.

It's a false. It's a false narrative. It's a false narrative. Another thing. Okay.

Molly Sims

The clear bins. I think your huggable hangers are phenomenal. Yeah, we love. We love our hangers. Your hangers are incredible.

Clea Shearer

Hangers are so important. I mean, everyone has a different hanger preference. And, you know, we obviously are willing to organize with. With whatever hangers anyone wants. Uniform hangers.

Game changer. Game changer. Oh, it's so cool. Can you tell why yours are so, what makes them so? I mean, I can if you want.

Yes. Wooden, and they're thin. That's the thing. A lot of times they're a line. Hanger that is durable because a lot of slim hangers break, you know, they snap in half.

Emese Gormley

Oh, I hate that. It's the worst. And so we wanted to design a beautiful, slim, durable hanger that it can hold. I mean, it's like crazy. It can hold like a hundred pounds or something.

Clea Shearer

I don't know what. And it doesn't slip? No, it doesn't slip. And you can, apparently you can get them wet or put them in the dishwasher. Not that you need to, but I.

Just remember, no, but you can put wet, like clothing. Hang on. You're not going to destroy the hanger. Yeah, that's right. And the uniformity, I mean, that's like an aesthetic piece, but it makes such a difference if you have streamlined hangers.

Joanna Teplin

You just feel like, I have my life together kind of a feeling. Yes. When you were first working with a client. And I would love you to talk about it. Cause this is what you guys did so well on.

Molly Sims

Get organized. You really found that when you went into these homes, like, it was almost like therapy. It made women and men and a family feel better. So there is some self care to really having an organized house. Can you talk a little bit about that?

Clea Shearer

Yeah. I mean, we have long said that organizing is a form of self care. It's meditative, it is cleansing. It's not just clearing clutter in the physical space, but it clears clutter from your mind. It brings a sense of calm and order when, to be honest, like, what in life do we even have control over anymore?

So it's like, nice to be able to just have the ability to simply know where everything is in your home. You never have to look for anything. You never have to think about where it goes. Everything as a home. You don't have to argue with your kids or your husband or whomever about where things are.

And it just, it brings such a sense of calm to walk into a space and there are no piles. Everything just has a home and is placed in it. And you can think about the 1 million other things you have to deal with. You don't have to deal with being encumbered by your physical space. And it is so powerful it's so powerful.

It is. And to wake up and to know where everything is and not see a pile. The first thing you do when you open your eyes, that is empowering, that makes you want to get out of bed, as opposed to, like, curl back up and put the covers over your head. What do you think is the hardest room in your home, outside of the closet to tackle if you're trying to. The pantry.

Molly Sims

What about the garage? I was gonna say the garage. The garage is tough. The garage can be tough. The garage is definitely tough.

Clea Shearer

But here's the reason why we say the pantry. The garage is very difficult for a multitude of reasons. It was, you know, every. It's everything from climate control, you know, temperature issues. Sometimes when you're organizing a closet, there's junk, there's clutter.

It's big, it's dirty. It can be over. You know, there are a lot of reasons why a garage can be overwhelming. I almost count that in addition to the home. Like, I feel like that's kind of its own category, like garage attic.

Emese Gormley

I also feel like husbands can really run amok in the garage, and then you just don't have as much control, personally. Yeah. I mean, but the thing. The nice thing I think about organizing a garage is decision making seems to be a lot easier. You know, it's like, am I using it?

Clea Shearer

Am I not using it? There's nothing. Well, that's because you don't use the garage stuff. That's true. But you kind of can tell, like, if something is there.

Joanna Teplin

I feel like that's because you literally, and I'll speak for myself, use zero things that are. Joanna, I've organized 1 million garages. I know, I know. I'm not saying that you just don't care about the stuff in it, so you're not attached to it. I don't care about everyone's things when we're organizing.

Molly Sims

You don't care about a lawn. Lawnmower, though, or, like, a recycling bin. Oh, but I'm also not stupid enough to be like, let's donate the lawnmower. I don't know. No, but I'm talking about for you personally.

Clea Shearer

I'm not talking for me personally. Are we talking about our own homes? I was actually, in this situation, my garage. I am talking about someone's garage. Okay.

That we organize. What I mean by the decision making is easier is it's not as difficult to figure out if. If that paint can. Is worth keeping, you know, like, there. The decision making is you're much less attached to things in your garage that might not be true for things in your attic.

Like, that could be. Those could be sentimental items or those have different landmines. Every space has different landmines, but the garage is kind of like, okay, is it junk? Is it not? You know, like, the decision making is a little easier for a pantry.

The reason why we say that is such a complicated space. Well, Molly can tell you from the very first time we organized it, when you unload a pantry, it actually takes up your entire kitchen, and you. It's a clown car. You don't even believe. You do not believe.

Molly Sims

And I think this was such, so good with the show, because they were able, and on their instagram and socials, to be able to lay everything out in your pantry. It is phenomenal what you can keep and get in there. It's shocking. It's shocking because often when we get into a pantry, people have technically maximized their space. They just haven't done it in an organized way.

Clea Shearer

So what you get are shelves with everything crammed from the top to the bottom and all the way to the back. It is just. It's like a compression of. Of things. And so when you take them all out, I mean it.

I remember Scott, Molly's husband, when he walked in house that first day. First of all, I think he almost turned around and left. But when he. When he walked in the house, he was like, what is all that? Like, where did this all come from?

And we're like, we had.

Molly Sims

To believe it. It was all on the kitchen island. He was like, what? Where is all this? That was from this small, tiny pantry.

Emese Gormley

But I think that's the problem with the pantry, right? Cause I know for my own self, I'll forget what I have in my pantry. And my pantry's actually very organized, and I'll be like, ooh, do I need more tomato sauce? I don't know. Maybe I do.

So I just buy two cans, and then you go home, and you realize you have six cans, and now you've got six cans in there. And that's where I think the pantry becomes a dark hole. Like my mother in law's pantry. I pulled out a tomato sauce. It had an expiry date of 2006 on it.

Molly Sims

Stop it. Yikes. Yikes. Yeah, well, that's part of, you know, working with the pantry. It should be a high turnover space.

Clea Shearer

It should be things that you're buying to use, and then you actually use them. You need to, number one, try and make grocery lists from your pantry. Yeah. Stand in your pantry. Okay, say that one more time.

Molly Sims

Make a grocery list from your pantry inside so you know what you have and what you don't have. Yes. Do not sit on the couch and make it or put a ship list together or whatever. Assuming that, like, I probably don't, because what you probably have are four jars of whatever you're about to buy or. Doing it at the grocery store, walking the aisle, and be like, huh, I wonder if I'm out of this.

Clea Shearer

Definitely don't do that. Definitely don't do that. I am a full proponent. Like, there's nothing I love more than, like, wandering. Trader Joe's defines, like, new things or, like, whole foods or whatever, right?

Like, just, like, a new. Nothing is more fun. Like, something else that's come out that's different. Go ahead, make. Knock sure yourself out.

You know, wander the grocery store. But don't. Don't assume that you don't have things when you likely do. So make your list from your pantry. You also need to make a commitment to edit your pantry.

At the minimum, I would say twice a year. That is a very reasonable expectation. It shouldn't take you more than ideally, more, of course, more. But, like, if you can get to it twice a year, just make sure. Because if you think about most, like, packaged goods, canned goods, you know, they're not super high perishable.

So the likelihood of them getting expired within those handful of months, you know, you can probably get away with it. Would I love someone to do it quarterly four times a year? Of course, we're all launching into a new quarter also, so if anybody needs a little kick. That's right, spring cleaning. I do.

Molly Sims

Like, I believe. Is there anything we should stock up on? Are there certain things? You're like, okay, because I stock up on my paper towels, my toilet paper, like, and is there a designated area you would suggest? I would say this.

Joanna Teplin

I would sort of say the inverse is that sometimes people overstock and then they don't have space for it. So I would. I caution people to think that they're a Costco shopper when they don't have the space for, like, a Costco shop. And then they come home and they have, like, 70 things, and they're like, well, I don't have the space for it. And then it becomes a.

Molly Sims

Then it's just laid out somewhere. Yeah, that's right. So being organized in your space is so helpful to also understand what you need to buy, not just what you're missing, but let's just say paper towels, for instance. If you designate the top shelf of your pantry for paper towels. Just saying, that is the allotment.

Clea Shearer

That is your space that you have designated for that item. If you're running low, you'll know it. Right. And you'll fill up that space with more paper towels. If you're not running low, you don't need to buy more paper towels.

Like that is it. There's no reason to get six other packs and. And put them in the garage. The space tells you what you're telling. So, you know, again, if you.

If it's canned goods or if it's rice in your canister, whatever it may be, if you are organized and, you know, this is the space I have for rice. You know, I have these three canisters for three different kinds of rice. Or a bin. Let's say just a bin with boxes of rice in it. You know, if you're running low, like, if.

And you do not need to continue to over buy, your space will tell you what it can hold, and you need to, like, be in agreement with your space. You need to be aligned on what can go in there. And there's really no point in overbuying. I don't care how big your pantry is, or if you even have a cabinet pantry, whatever space you have, those, you know, you're confined to that space, and over buying just doesn't really serve you. What are your favorite top two, top three favorite of all time organizational hacks?

Oh. Oh, my God. I mean. Okay. Okay, go ahead.

Joanna Teplin

Well, I'll start a turntable. I mean, it's so simple, but it's so brilliant. I mean, it allows you to get to the space in the back without knocking everything over on the way to get to the back. I have two of yours. In my pantry, I have three.

Yeah, I know. Aren't they. Don't they just make you happy and they spin around? I know. In my kitchen, I love it.

Clea Shearer

And if you have the items that are smart to put on a double decker turntable, even the better. Like, the fact that you can then get to everything front to back and also maximize the height of every shelf. Amazing. Chef's kit. It's amazing.

Joanna Teplin

Yeah. Another. Another incredible hack is an over the door holder, an over the door organizer. A lot of people make them. We make them.

Clea Shearer

The container store makes a great one. Alpha. It hooks over the door top and bottoms. It doesn't damage anything. You don't need tools or anything like that.

It's. It's very simple. It's not the old kind of canvas. Droopy organizers. These are ones that we like to say have structural integrity with, like, actual baskets that clip onto it, you know?

Yeah, they're. They're chic. They can be styled out really beautifully. We make one that's acrylic. It's gorgeous.

And it basically invents space where none existed before is like. Or for your pantry or everywhere. Everywhere. When we first, when I lived and when I moved into a new house, this was a different. This was a house a couple houses ago, but I did not need the extra space.

Joanna Teplin

Clea came over, and she's like, you have an over the door on every single door. And I'm like, I know, because they're so fabulous, and they allow you to create space where there wasn't. And because I'm so short, I could double the space lower down than having stuff on the top shelves. I need that. You need that.

Clea Shearer

It is so smart. It's a magic trick. And the. The funny thing, though, about Joanna's house is, like, she had them on every closet door, but I'd open the closet, and there was nothing on the shelves. It's like, she was so excited to use the over the door unit.

I just, like, love an over the door. She's, like, went the door you don't have to worry about. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's like, it's.

It's amazing. Okay, wait. Leather magic really quick. I just want to say, for the uses of the over the door, it, of course, can be used in a pantry for. It could be used for paper towels or it could be used for spices or snack.

It's like grab and go snacks for kids. It's great for that. Like, little bags of goldfish and things like that. It's amazing in a baby nursery for diapers and all sorts of supplies to keep that right there, because that's where you really do need to over buy sometimes, because you need to have that extra stock of baby wipes and all that. It's great.

Bathroom. If you don't have drawer space or cabinet space in a bathroom. And over the door unit is incredible. It also can hold towels. It can be like a little linen closet.

And it's also fantastic in a kid's room because, like Joanna said, kids that are short, like Joanna, they're little under tall. People are, you know, they. They can't reach high shelves. So this allows kind of lower access things, whether it's. You can do it for games, like board books and.

And little stuffed animals, or you can do it for kids shoes. They can grab themselves. It's endless. You can tell we're passionate. Okay, I have two.

Joanna Teplin

Two other hacks. One I'm gonna clean, I always say, but I'm gonna go to that one next one that I also like to use. Speaking of under tall is having, like, a foldable step stool throughout the whole house. Because the thing is, when you have a barrier to entry, you do not want to put things away. And people are like, oh, I just don't feel like putting things on the top shelf.

I need to go get a chair to stand on. I need to go find a stool from the garage. Just buy a little, tiny, foldable step stool and put them all, sprinkle them throughout the house if you can, and voila. You are motivated to put things away. Motivated to put it away.

Molly Sims

Yeah, because. And because that's how piles happen when you're like, oh, I can't get to the top shelf of the closet. I'm just going to pile it on, you know, the floor, the dresser, whatever. I mean, that's how piles happen. So, yeah, we have shelves and we have vertical space to use.

Clea Shearer

Right. And if we. If we're not using it to the best of our advantage, if. If you don't have a step stool and you do get it up there, then it goes there to die. Or.

Joanna Teplin

That's right. It never goes back because it just ends up, you know, creating piles. Molly, I'll send you the link to this. I found one that I love. It's on Amazon.

Clea Shearer

It's super affordable. It's gold. It's very pretty. It's a gold foldable step stool, and it stands by itself, like, the feet of it. It's amazing.

It, like, collapses together. It's so chic. I have it in, like, every single room of the house. I'm doing that. Okay.

Molly Sims

What else do I step? Okay. A cart. I mean, we talk about carts. Like, we invented the idea.

Joanna Teplin

We did not come up with a cart. You did make a very. But, yeah, the cart, you guys, that is extra space. It's a magic shirt, too. You all of a sudden have storage that you didn't otherwise have.

And it's cute. It's like a little station on wheels that you can put but in almost any space that allows for it to fit right. I did it for my baby's room because of you guys, and it's still in action. Like, I keep her pull ups there, I keep her hairbrush there, and it's like she's got little board books in the bottom that she can play with. Yeah, totally.

Clea Shearer

It's so great. A cart is kind of like a mobile over the door unit, you know, again, like, it creates an organized space. It creates homes for things where you wouldn't normally have it. So, you know, you don't have to rely on built in cabinets and shelves and things like that. If you have an over the door unit or a cart, you know, you're adding to your storage possibilities.

Molly Sims

Okay, give me one more while we're at it. Hey, let's just round it off to five. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Clea Shearer

What? Well, I mean, I would say baby bins, but I know that's very specific and that's like. So Anna loves a baby bin, and baby bins are amazing, but it's inside baseball. I feel like baby bins are like friends for organizers. Basically, it's when.

When people make fun of organizers who put bins in bins, which I think that they're. They're making fun of us, actually, in that. In that circumstance, we are the people who put bins in bins. Yeah. And that's when I.

When I leveled in earlier. You don't remember an all purpose bin? No little baby bins? No. Anything else?

You are already doing your part to get organized. But do we love creating little categories within the category? Of course. You know, I'm going to give you a perfect example of what they did for me. So I have a hair bin that is in a beautiful rattan.

Molly Sims

They got me this beautiful rattan basket. Within the basket are the baby bends. You've seen them? Where is this? In my mud room in the rattan.

It's hair. Yeah. So I have a water bottle. I have a couple brushes. I have her ponytail holders.

I have hairspray. I have headbands for gray. Those are all in my baby bins, in the acrylic, in the basket. And I have to tell you, it says hair. Yeah.

On the other one, it says teeth. And I have the beautiful bin with the tag on it. Within it. I have the baby bends, and it is toothbrush, toothpaste, everything you need. Floss for the teeth.

And another trick that they taught me is, why am I going up to their rooms on another floor? Cause it's the last thing they do, and they're not really gonna have to make sure they do it. So it's on the first floor. It's on the kitchen. It's on the kitchen near the kitchen when I'm going out the door.

Now, that could be in your laundry. That could be in, like, in your kitchen. But I'm telling you, if you have small kids or kids who do not like to do anything by themselves, who are not self sufficient, having those drawers close to you, I agree with that. I think it's also to your point, maybe it's about looking at how you live your life and doing the things that actually fit your life, as opposed to what you think. You gotta see how everyone lives and then follow the path.

Joanna Teplin

Like, if everyone always drops their mail here, let's not put the mail bins in a different room. Like, let's put the bin where the mail automatically goes. And just organized. That was a true game changer for my family. Like, you saved me thousands of steps.

Molly Sims

Like, thousands of steps every day because. And losing our shit. Because I lose my shit on my kids in the morning. Yeah. No, I believe it.

Clea Shearer

So there's. There's one other. I can't believe I almost forgot to say this. Within our new cleaning line collection, there is an under sink organizer, which we talked about before. Under sync.

Right. It is a game changer. Two tiered, and it goes on either side of the pipe. You know, the dreaded kitchen pipe that. The sink pipe that kind of disrupts all ability to organize everything.

Molly Sims

Everything. And it slides out. It's. It's so perfect, and it's beautiful. It's clear.

Clea Shearer

It's acrylic. It holds so much. I mean, it is just an absolute game changer. And we love organizing under a sink because most people who haven't organized under their sink think that it's a wasted space. Like, they think it's just, like, a throwaway garbage dump.

And it actually has so many real organizing possibilities. And so we're. We're so excited that we got to create an actual solution to go under there, because it is. It just having an organized sink, it just, you know, this is a space where we should be doing things that feel clean and good. And when under your sink is just a rat's nest, I mean, it just feels gross.

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Talk a little bit about your new cleaning line, because. Tell us everything about it. We're thrilled. You know, we're people who love categories, so moving into a new category for us is just, it's exciting in a way only an organizer could excited about, because we get to celebrate the art of cleaning an organization together. A lot of people kind of conflate cleaning an organization, but they're really very close cousins, hand in hand.

Clea Shearer

And so being able to come up with smart solutions that allow for a really easy cleaning process that is also beautiful to have around is exactly what we wanted to create. So all of our items have, like, a dual purpose there. We didn't just want to duplicate what's in the marketplace. We wanted to really make something a notch above and make it smarter. So, you know, every kind of even just a simple dish sponge, like a scrubber, it has a little clip on it.

It actually rests on the edge of the sink so it doesn't end up on the basin of the sink. And just, like, collecting with all of your dishes, you know, it just, and you don't have to have something on the counter that's all gross and, you know, out there for everyone to see, it just holds onto the edge of the sink, and it's. It's so great. We have even something as simple as the trio of toilet brush. I think that's my favorite.

It's so pretty. It's just a really beautiful, like, white kind of modern looking box that has everything kind of lined up in it so it's not kind of ugly in your space. Like a plunger like stuff you need in the house, but no one wants out, right. You need these things. And so the fact that we can make them beautiful, you know, a dishpod organizer that.

That clips onto the side of the cabinet, you know, the under sink organizer I love so much. I love that our cleansing cloths that we have, they're color coded and specific to each category. One is for glass. One is multipurpose. You know, one is for bathroom.

Molly Sims

I'm getting that. I just. I need. Those desperate needs are out now. Yes.

Clea Shearer

Yes. They just. We just launched it. Yeah, it's just sold out. But try to get on the wait list if it is sold out, because it probably will be, because I'm gonna buy up everything.

Emese Gormley

I'll be right back. It's exciting to try and think of extra creative uses for these items. I think for us, we never want to just put things out. To put things out and stamp our name on. It needs to be better than what's out, or it needs to serve at least an additional functional and beautiful.

Clea Shearer

Just blending that form and function is what's important. I think what you guys do so well is make organizing for someone who's, again, I say this about myself, not naturally organized. You make it less daunting. And I think beautiful. Yeah.

Emese Gormley

And beautiful and easy to maintain. It's just like, now I'm like, I need to do my bathroom. Like, what can we expect next? I know there's a few exciting new things coming next for the home edit. Well, we are really excited to show people a glimpse into our brand new lives.

Clea Shearer

As the host of the reboot for Extreme Makeover home edition, we filmed the first episode already in Austin. It was the most exciting, craziest, most fabulous, incredible emotional journey you could possibly imagine. I've never had an experience like it in my life. No. We flew out our kids because they had.

We had to have them witness, tell us everything. Well, extreme is. Extreme that we've had a lot of preparation, I think, to get to this type of show, which, as viewers who had seen it in the past, is a show where a family, a well deserving family who really needs the love and care, you know, the network. The show extreme comes in and either completely redoes their house or builds them a whole new house, and, you know, and every single room is accounted for. It is.

It is unbelievable, actually, to witness in person. And our version of the show, obviously, is a lens on not just the home building process, but everyone's things that they carry with them from home to home. Because even if you get a new home, a fully brand new, beautiful house, you still have the same physical baggage. You have the same physical things that need to go into it. And a lot of people have, as we all know, incredible emotional challenges and pitfalls and.

And their grenades everywhere with these kinds of things. And the. The actual. The courage it takes to. To go through it by yourself is, I think, just sometimes, like, insurmountable.

So we are there to kind of help people, coach people, go through all their items so that when they move into their brand new house, it is perfect inside and out, every drawer, cabinet, closet, you know? So excited. I cannot. I mean, I was a huge fan of the OG. Like, I.

Molly Sims

When I heard. I'm not gonna say I didn't know when I heard that this was potentially going to happen, I was so extremely unintended happy for you guys, because, first of all, you're two incredible hosts, but I think just the matching and coming together with this show is going to be magic. Okay. I know we have to do a little bit of beauty. Any.

Any new beauty products? We love. Joanna, any new headbands? Who's your favorite? Oh, my God.

Joanna Teplin

I need all your beauty products. I need all of them. Every time I see you, I'm, like, writing down notes. I'll send you more lies. Literally.

All your wise stuff is so good, Molly, and so beautiful. Your new the wise brightening the wide awake serum. Oh, the wide awake. Oh, my God. It is a color corrector.

Molly Sims

A little brightening, a little de puffing. It is amazing. I need to take a video of Stella and me doing it together because I need her to actually take the video of it. I love it so much. The texture of it.

Clea Shearer

It feels so good. It's beautiful. Anything else you guys are loving? Where do. Where.

Molly Sims

Who is your favorite headband maker? Well, we have our own line at Walmart, actually, so I do love ours so much. All right, let's pick. Let's pick products that aren't made by all the people on this zoom. Okay, that's fine.

Clea Shearer

Okay. Lilisa, the headbands and Jennifer Bear. I love Jennifer bear. I thought that's who you love for your og. I love both.

Molly Sims

Yeah. Both of those two companies just do such a phenomenal job. And what about makeup? Anything? Well, okay.

Clea Shearer

I recently. So my 13 year old daughter is on a mission to make sure everything I was doing incorrectly before, I am doing correctly now. So she will come in and look at my makeup drawer and be like, literally, what are you doing? Like, literally, who raised you? And she was like, you're still doing powder blush.

You're still so. So we're doing. You're doing a powder bronzer. And she will go to Sephora or Ulta, buy me new things, and bring them home to. I love her.

Get me into this century. And which, to be clear, I did not think that, like, a powder was bad. But anyway, I'm willing to do whatever she tells me. And she brought home fenty contour and highlighter sticks that I love. And then a Selena Gomez the rare beauty cream blush.

Emese Gormley

That's a good mix berry. You can use it as a lip or a cheek. It's so good. So good. And, I mean, you told me this.

Joanna Teplin

I was like, thank you, Stella. Thank you for just helping your old mom out. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. All right, we're going to do a little rapid fire.

Molly Sims

I know. We have to go. What's on your bedside table? Clea Kindle. Always.

Joanna, just a lamp because you're clean and organized. Okay, so the kindle's in my drawer. Oh, my God. I knew it. But, yes, I have a lamp.

But the trick question, you would see. My nightstand and have a heart attack. What's your favorite season? Spring. Fall.

Clea Shearer

100% spring. Spring and fall. Spring. Spring to me is full. I love fall, don't get me wrong.

But spring is, like, the reward for, like, the long, dark winter. And it's, like, when I start to feel happy again. And so, you know, I. And there's also. Depression lifts.

There's a. Yes, it lifts my depression. And there's an aspect to fall, a bittersweet aspect of fall, where I know what we're headed towards. No heading. Cozy times.

Joanna Teplin

It's cozy times ahead. I love spring. I'm with clea. I think I know this answer, but vintage or contemporary? Contemporary?

Clea Shearer

Contemporary. Early bird or night owl? Night owl. Neither. Overhead lighting or lamps?

Lamps. Lamps. Yeah. Who created overhead lighting? Who did this to us?

I mean, it's fine if it's like a pendant, a chandelier. Like, I understand those things need to exist, but, like, come on. Like, an overhead. An overhead. I know this doesn't ever happen, but if you did have one day off, how would you, in your mind, spend it?

With my children or without my children? Without your children. Without my children. Wow. I don't even know how.

What would. Like. What does that mean? Like, you just get to think things and, like, right? Well, it depends where we are.

Joanna Teplin

Like, can we be anywhere? No. Joanna, you had your best day ever without your kids. Why don't you? I did.

Clea Shearer

I actually agree with this day. I wasn't with Joanna, so I'm furious and offended that she had her best day without me, but I agree with, this would be my perfect day. And Joanna and I did have one of them together. So I'm just going to. I'm going to overarch it for both of us because I feel like that was actually our favorite day in the world.

Joanna Teplin

Yeah, okay, that's fine. We had a day off in New York City unexpectedly and it was like sleeping, brunch, coffee, walks in the park, shopping, like walking for like 20,000 steps, you know, like. And because we had the whole day, we had a day planned and it totally got canceled and it wasn't our fault that it got canceled and we weren't, like, sick. So we had the whole day empty. And it was massive and it was actually a snow day in New York.

Clea Shearer

Like, it was snowing. And so we literally walked through Central park in the snow with our coffee, of course, because we were there and didn't know it was going to snow. We had to go shopping to buy proper. What did you guys buy? Montclair, obviously went to Montclair and bought.

A jacket, bought necessary jackets and then went to Burgdorf's and bought necessary snow boots and. But it was just like sometimes those unexpected days are magic, you know? It was magic. It was the best. Take me back.

Molly Sims

I tried to have one of those a couple weeks ago. I had two days off. I'd done la, London, New York, beauty meetings, the movie, everything you could possibly. They all left. I crushed a Friday.

Saturday morning. I'm like, I don't even know what I'm gonna do. I'm so, I was so excited. Saturday and Sunday. Wow.

I got so violently ill. No, I had the flu so bad. I could. Yeah, I know, but those. Not fair.

Clea Shearer

You need. Yeah, you need a redo. Okay. You guys were doing a wise Legends episode and I've picked the two of you to be part of my legends.

Molly Sims

I think I know this, but did you guys have one mentor that had a large impact on your life, on your career? A mentor or like someone like, like, you've had a huge impact on our career. I mean, you're not like an organizer. I can name someone or that. That's really like, helped you think, you know, because the whole meta started as you going just in people's.

I mean, it is in over 25. Your products are over in 25 countries. How many places in the United States can get your services now? God, I don't. We're actually opening up to new markets in Palo Alto and Greenwich.

Clea Shearer

Zachary. There's so many. They don't even. Yeah, I mean, think about the success. Is there any one person or two people that I would say three people.

Joanna Teplin

If I had to say, and I would say you, Molly, you've had a tremendous, tremendous impact on our lives, our trajectory, our business, all of those things. In fact, Molly, you let me bring, actually, I was going to say you've just had such a huge impact, like Joanna said, but in organizing specifically, you were the one who said, you need to open up a Los Angeles market. You need to stop doing it all yourself. That was you. Well, I just remember, I'm like, how can they, for lack of a better word, like, how can they duplicate themselves?

Molly Sims

Like, how can you? And that's ultimately what you did. You created a method that can be taught, that can be learned and can be taken. You can take. And that, I think, is the brilliance of your company, because, you know, there was no way with two small kids each that you had at the time.

You're like, how am I going to build this? How is it going to be sustainable? But how can I grow? And I think what I loved about your method so much is that I could do it. You know, you could help me get to be able to do it and to maintain it.

And I have that takeaway. And, you know, for me, being so busy and have, having so many, you know, it's like I'm a cat. It's like I have so many different lives. Like, really being organized has truly helped me mentally. It helps me.

My kids, you know, I know not all kids, but my kids really thrive on structure. They thrive on a plan as much as they don't. They need to have, like, not cleanliness per se, because our house was always clean. But they like organization to feel like things are organized. They do.

They feel safe that way. It's, you know, I don't know if, if it's anybody that others kids, but. That is mine, certainly. I mean, not that they have a choice. Joanna, who else is on your list?

Clea Shearer

Reese. Reese Witherspoon horse. Obviously, she's had a tremendous impact on our entire lives in business as well, on, in so many ways, and just with invaluable advice and just, she's just, she's an incredible force. And we're just, I mean, beyond you guys. I cannot wait.

Molly Sims

I'm buying the entire cleaning line, the underwear under organization, what's it called? Under sink organizer. By the way, I'm ditching my other from you. And I'm up, and I'm upgraded, too. It's so good.

Clea Shearer

You guys are going to love it. I can't wait to show you my bathroom under sink when this airs. All right. Yes. The home edit the home edit life.

Molly Sims

The episodes are still up on netflix. Get organized with the home edit. I'm excited for everything, and if you do not follow them, please, by the grace of the lord, you're missing out on be inspired. Be inspired at clia scherer, joannateplin at thehomedit. All right, I love you both.

I will see you soon. I love you. That's a wrap on this week's lipstick on the rim. Thanks for listening to lipstick on the rim with molly sims and my ride or die emissa Gormely. We are always so excited to bring you guys along on this journey.

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