WWDC 2024 recap: AI, iOS 18, and VisionOS 2

Primary Topic

This episode covers the latest updates from the Apple Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) 2024, focusing on AI advancements, iOS 18, and VisionOS 2.

Episode Summary

In this detailed recap of WWDC 2024, hosts Kim Komando and Andrew Babinski discuss the latest Apple updates including iOS 18 and VisionOS 2.0. They explore the enhanced functionalities and quirks of these updates, such as improved AI capabilities now branded as "Apple Intelligence", enhanced user interface tweaks, and compatibility details. The episode humorously critiques some features, and appreciates others, particularly the ones that improve accessibility and integration across Apple devices.

Main Takeaways

  1. VisionOS 2.0 introduces user interface enhancements that simplify access to controls.
  2. iOS 18 allows more customization on the home screen and introduces better interactivity with emojis in messages.
  3. Apple's approach to AI, rebranded as "Apple Intelligence", signifies a deeper integration of machine learning directly into the device hardware.
  4. New features in tvOS and updates to AirPods enhance user experience by focusing on accessibility and convenience.
  5. Apple's emphasis on privacy continues with the introduction of "Private Cloud Compute", ensuring user data is processed on local devices rather than in the cloud.

Episode Chapters

1: Introduction and Casual Chat

The hosts exchange light-hearted banter about everyday observations and lead into the episode's main topic. Kim Komando: "Let's get this tech party started!"

2: VisionOS and iOS Updates

Detailed discussion on VisionOS 2.0 and iOS 18, highlighting new features like widget manipulation and message enhancements. Andrew Babinski: "You can now have spaces between your apps."

3: AI Integration and Privacy

Exploration of Apple's new AI strategies and privacy features, emphasizing local processing of data. Kim Komando: "Apple Intelligence is now powered by chat GPT."

4: Peripheral Device Updates

Discussion on new functionalities for peripheral devices like AirPods and Apple Watch, improving usability. Andrew Babinski: "Direct voicemail sending via AirPods is kind of cool."

5: Closing Thoughts and Guest Segment

Final thoughts on the WWDC announcements and a brief guest segment discussing unrelated, yet intriguing topics. Kim Komando: "We covered everything Apple announced at WWDC."

Actionable Advice

  1. Explore iOS 18 to customize your home screen to your liking.
  2. Utilize new AI features in iOS to enhance daily interactions.
  3. Consider privacy settings in light of Apple's new data processing policies.
  4. Check compatibility of new features with your current Apple devices.
  5. Stay updated with Apple's software updates to ensure the best user experience.

About This Episode

Apple’s annual Worldwide Developers Conference is here. We have the latest updates on iPhone, Mac, and more. Plus, Richard Godfrey says he knows where the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 is, thanks to HAM radio operators.

People

Kim Komando, Andrew Babinski

Companies

Apple

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None

Guest Name(s):

Richard Godfrey

Content Warnings:

None

Transcript

Kim Commando
Hey, it's Kim Commando today, your daily podcast to keep you up to date with all things digital and beyond. And I'd love to have you be a part of our podcast. You can make an appointment to speak with me. Just head over to commando.com. and on the top right, there's a button that says, email. Kim, fill that out, and that's it. So have you seen the Cybertruck lately?

Andrew Babinski
Yeah, I see them all over now.

Kim Commando
It's really weird, I know, but it's kind of like one of those things, like, you know, when you want to see it, then you see a ton of them. But meanwhile, if you weren't looking for it, you wouldn't see anything. I do that like, if I'm looking for a new car, all of a sudden it's like, oh, yeah, there's one, there's one, there's one, there's one. Did you get a new car yet?

Andrew Babinski
No, not yet. I'm still driving the old radio station mobile.

Kim Commando
Do people, like, wave at you?

Andrew Babinski
Constantly.

Kim Commando
That's nice.

Andrew Babinski
Jennifer and I were walking out of a grocery store to get in the car, and this, like, 17 year old kid runs up and goes, are you Beth?

Kim Commando
And she's like, no, no, I'm not Beth. Sorry about that. The reason why I bring up cybertruck is that if you do buy one, and I think you should.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah.

Kim Commando
Is that you better really, really love the truck. Really? 100%.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah. It's super expensive.

Kim Commando
Well, because inside the contract that you sign when you purchase the truck is the clause that basically says that you agree not to sell the cybertruck for at least one year, or else you are going to be fined $50,000.

Andrew Babinski
Is that legal? I mean, they can they legally do that? They take me to court?

Kim Commando
Yes. Yeah. For 50 grand. So if you are even thinking about buying a cybertruck, you better make sure that, like, you really, really, really that you're going to love this cybertruck, because you're not going to want to spend 50 grand. You can sell it.

Andrew Babinski
Well, not after you spent $100,000 on the cyber truck to begin with. I actually saw a youtuber. It was a car youtuber bought a Cybertruck two days after it was delivered. He just wanted to see. So he took it to Carmax to see how much he could get if he sold it to them two days after the release. And they were only going to give him 75,000. So it depreciated 25 grand right off the lot.

Kim Commando
Boom. Just like that.

Andrew Babinski
Now you throw in the 50 grand fine.

Kim Commando
It's awful. And you see, it's like. It's this transference of intellect and knowledge that happens every single podcast, which is why you should never, ever miss a podcast, in case you're just like, well, what's the name of the podcast? It's called Kim Commando today, because it's really funny how this works. I'm Kim Commando.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, hi, Kim.

Kim Commando
Hi. And then, of course, joining me is my co host, Andrew Babinski. Hello there, Andrew.

Andrew Babinski
Good morning. Afternoon, midday? I don't know. Where are you? What part of the day is it?

Kim Commando
I'm in California. We're in the same time zone. Ding dong.

Andrew Babinski
All right, well, then, good afternoon, Kim. I have a story coming up today about the 2024 election and AI chatbots.

Kim Commando
Very good, very good. We are going to be talking about what happened at the WWDC with a worldwide developers conference. I have the whole load down. I've been watching it, and I was thinking as I was watching it, I should be more like the presenters that Apple House, because we wouldn't just be talking like this. We would say, coming up, we have an innovative story that is going to change the world forever.

Andrew Babinski
Forever.

Kim Commando
And it's Siri, unlike you've ever seen before. Wow, that's. I'm sorry, I'm afraid I can't do that.

Andrew Babinski
She can't do that. She can't change the world. You're wrong.

Kim Commando
That was classic. That's almost like we tried to put that bit together.

Andrew Babinski
We couldn't. If we tried to do that, we couldn't.

Kim Commando
Amazing. Amazing. Hey, if you haven't already, make sure that you, like, comment, share, follow our podcast, and make sure that you also get our free newsletter. Sign up over@Getchim.com dot. Once again, that's getchim.com dot. All right, let's get this tech party started. Ready with the five top things you need to know. What's happening in the tech verse right now as we speak. And I mentioned it. It's the WWDC. That's the Worldwide Developers conference. And I watched it. It was almost an hour and a half. Really, like, crazy stuff. So let me just walk you through it. They opened up, and they were all excited about the brand new vision, iOS 2.0. And I'm like, can we just move past this? Move past this. So, like, now you can put, like, your two fingers together to get to the control panel. And everybody in the crowd went, yeah.

Andrew Babinski
Wow.

Kim Commando
That's awesome. Oh, my gosh.

Andrew Babinski
There is gonna be tens of people out there dying to download that update.

Kim Commando
Okay. Then they went to iOS 18. Okay. And it was like, you can now move apps around on your home screen. Yes.

Andrew Babinski
I saw this update that you can have now spaces between your apps. You don't have to fill up the full page. You can have empty spaces.

Kim Commando
So like this way if you have a photo or something of your dog, they showed so that this way you can have all the apps doesn't cover up the face of the dog. You can now have the apps in different color schemes. Stop. I know.

Andrew Babinski
How fast was Apple's stock rising as this information was coming out?

Kim Commando
Okay. You know, messages, I do think that this is actually kind of cool is that, you know, chat backs, we love that you could just put a thumbs up, thumbs down, whatever it may be. Now you can actually have emojis, which I think that would be pretty awesome.

Andrew Babinski
Also with text messaging, aren't you going to be able to have read receipts from Android phones and better quality photos and videos sent to and from Android phones? So that's actually cool.

Kim Commando
Yeah, we'll see how that works. You know, they're not going to, they're not going to make it great because they want you to have a better apple to Apple experience. Messages now works via satellite on iPhone 14s or later. So that's pretty cool. Now with photos, you can now have additional filters to drill down to the photos that you want and also you can filter out screenshots. Love those. Love that.

Andrew Babinski
Now, the thing with the photos, isn't that all AI based?

Kim Commando
Yes.

Andrew Babinski
And isn't the AI going to be an opt in option for all people that upgrade to the new iOS? As in opt in? I mean, they will automatically opt you in and then if you don't want it, you're going to have to manually opt yourself out.

Kim Commando
Yes. That would be the case too. That would be the case too. Your airpods that now you, if like, let's say you call me and I'm like, I don't want to talk to you then. So instead of me like trying to figure out like how to not take the phone call, I can just go, nope, nope. And then we'll send that call directly to voicemail.

Andrew Babinski
That's actually kind of cool.

Kim Commando
It is. And so if I wanted it talk to you that one time, I can say yes. I can say yes.

Andrew Babinski
Appreciate it.

Kim Commando
Tvos got a new operating system as well. Update. If you mute or you jump back in, something that you're watching is that now you can see closed captioning underneath. If you're watching a show that has been produced by Apple, and you're like, you know, what was that show that Brad Pitt was in in 1982? And then you could just scroll down. It will show you everything that he's been in before. So if you see an actor and you're like, what is that about? Also the. The sound. And so if it's a high power chase and you're having trouble hearing the dialogue, is that now the dialogue will automatically increase so that this way you can actually hear them and not just the screeching tires.

Andrew Babinski
That's a cool feature. Yeah.

Kim Commando
If you have an apple Watch, there's now a pause button so you don't lose your streak in your ring. So, like, let's say you get hurt. So you can, like, pause your activities. You can say, like, Tuesdays and Thursdays are no exercise day. And that's just the way that I want to have my body work. There's a check in feature that lets you let people know when you have arrived from your wrist. So that's actually been updated a little bit more. There's a new vitals apple, that will track all your health metrics. Think about this. We'll track everything. And so not just, you know, how many steps you get, but also your heart rate variability, how much sleep you're getting, your oxygen rate, whatever it may be. And so if things are different, and then the vitals app is going to say, hey, listen, we think that something may be going on. You need to go to a doctor. Okay.

Andrew Babinski
Can I ask you a question? Do you let Apple track your health on your Apple Watch that you wear?

Kim Commando
The one that I'm wearing right now?

Andrew Babinski
Mm hmm.

Kim Commando
How about you?

Andrew Babinski
We both own Apple watches.

Kim Commando
I know. You know, I was getting, like, too obsessive with it.

Andrew Babinski
Didn't you only wear it for, like, six or seven days?

Kim Commando
No. No, it was almost two weeks. Oh, I apologize.

Andrew Babinski
Stan corrected.

Kim Commando
Okay. The iPad. Guess what? I know. Finally, at Apple, we've realized that if you're on an iPad, you need a calculator app. Yes. Now we have a calculator app. I know.

Andrew Babinski
I bet you if you went on the street and you asked, I don't know, a hundred iPad users, they would all just assume that it already had a calculator app.

Kim Commando
Yes, they would.

Andrew Babinski
And it only took.

Kim Commando
Why would it not, 18 operating systems.

Andrew Babinski
For them to go. Yeah, let's go ahead and throw that in there.

Kim Commando
Okay, so if you have a Mac and you have an iPhone or an iPad, is that now? They are now it has, like, mirroring built in. And so if you want to see what's happening on your phone, but your phone is someplace else, is that now on your Mac, you can say, oh, show me what's going on with my phone.

Andrew Babinski
That's neat.

Kim Commando
Okay, so I guess that's kind of handy. Notifications from the phone now appear on the Mac, and then you can go to your virtual iPhone. So if there's something that you wanted on your phone, instead of, like, you picking up your phone and, like, trying to get that, is that now you can just go on your Mac, go to your phone, and then pick it off, whatever it may be.

Andrew Babinski
A lot of spouses are going to use this to spy on each other. Guarantee it.

Kim Commando
100%. 100%. Oh, guess what?

Andrew Babinski
What?

Kim Commando
On your Mac, you now have a brand new passwords app.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, yes, I saw that. It's not just going to be built into the settings anymore. It's going to be totally independent app.

Kim Commando
And then, of course, in true Apple fashion, is that they always wait for the big thing at the end. And so they had AI. AI. So what do you think AI stands for?

Andrew Babinski
Well, it's artificial intelligence, of course, silly.

Kim Commando
Not anymore.

Andrew Babinski
No.

Kim Commando
Apple intelligence.

Andrew Babinski
Apple intelligence powered by chat GPT, because Apple isn't ready to have their own intelligence, so they're licensing it from another company.

Kim Commando
That one. Yes.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah. Okay.

Kim Commando
All right, then we it. So now if. Let's say it's your birthday, okay, and I want to send you a birthday text. And so now what I can do is take a picture of you and then animate it, and then put balloons all around it, and then send you a picture of you having a birthday party saying, happy birthday.

Andrew Babinski
That's cool. That's fun.

Kim Commando
I thought it was kind of fun. You can also talk to Siri in a much better way.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, here it goes.

Kim Commando
Not going to say her name again. And she also has a brand new look. So instead of it just coming up with that, like, little bubble, is that the whole outside of your phone is now going to, like, illuminate whenever she's around. And so when you need to talk to her. And they really showed some good examples. So, like, I can say, show me all the text links for news stories that Andrew sent me last week, but I'm really looking for the one that he was talking about, the cybertruck or something like that. And then it will try to find that. I can say, show me all the photos of Ian that we took in New York five years ago when he was wearing the blue jacket.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, wow.

Kim Commando
And so it will really do that. And then the big deal about the Apple intelligence is that it's all happening on your phone. And so all the algorithms and the general language learning models, it's all on your phone. It's not going to the cloud because it's built in using the apple chips. Now it will have to go out to the cloud. And so that's when they showed you an animated apple. So you know how like, the Apple logo has the core at the top? Well, now the Apple logo, that core or that leaf at the top, rather turns into a lock. And to signify that Apple cares about your privacy, okay. That they have something called the private cloud compute. Private cloud compute. It runs on servers specially created for the purpose powered by Apple silicone. Meaning that your data is not going to be stored or shared with Apple. That's what they say.

Andrew Babinski
So does that mean if they get hacked, they're just packets passing the buck to some other company?

Kim Commando
That's not going to happen.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, okay. So we don't even worry.

Kim Commando
Okay.

Andrew Babinski
I won't even think about that. Okay.

Kim Commando
This is Apple.

Andrew Babinski
Gotcha.

Kim Commando
Remember? I mean, and then also if you're reading stuff on the web that there's going to have, like, you know, too long, didn't read a little summary at the top, you're watching a video on the web. You can hit a button and then it goes full screen. Of course, if you're using safari, the mail app will now show summaries and preview get notifications. You can create emojis using your keyboard. The notes app has this magic wand, the feature that will clean things up, helps with searches. And they are integrating chat GPT into Suri with system wide writing tools. So think about that, man. If you are Grammarly, you're in trouble. I mean, it's bad. It's really bad. You need to go find something new to do, like right now. So that's. That's pretty much everything that they, that they announced. Now this Apple intelligence, it'll work on the iPhone 15 Pro or later, plus any Mac or iPad running on an M series chipset. So what that means is that if you're sitting there like me and you have an older imac running on an intel chip. No, not gonna work.

Andrew Babinski
So all this stuff that you just said, all this fancy doodle stuff, when it gets installed in what, two or three days, none of it will affect me. Cause I have a 14.

Kim Commando
Correctamundo.

Andrew Babinski
All right?

Kim Commando
Correct mundo. So. But I'm gonna have it because you know, yes, I shall have it. I shall have it all. But it really is interesting to me how much production work they put into their announcements. I mean, they have to. It's a trillion dollar company, right? But, like, the women, they had a certain look and meaning, like, you know, like a blouse with pants that are bell bottoms, and the guys had, like, fitted shirts, you know, with belts and, you know, everybody looks great. But it was really. I always find it fascinating. If you haven't watched one of these in a long time, you just fired up just for a second. And I just want you to pay attention to the cadence of the people speaking and that they. How they. How they phrase their words that, you know, it's almost like they are going slower. So that this way you're listening, I think, more closely. Is that it? Is that why?

Andrew Babinski
Or it just has. Feels like it has a bigger impact.

Kim Commando
Yeah. So that's what I was saying at the beginning of the podcast. Maybe we should both start talking like this so that our audiences realize that the information that we're passing along will have a long lasting impact on whatever the day brings.

Andrew Babinski
This sounds like an awful idea.

Kim Commando
It does sound like an awful idea, doesn't it? All right, I had more things that I want to talk about, but we don't have time. Okay, so we'll have to do that on Wednesday's podcast. As far as, like, the other five things that you need to know that's happening about tech. And I know, like, many of you are sitting there saying, like, you know, we've had these features for years. Like, you know, the whole photo recall. I mean, we've had that on Google photos. Yeah, I know you have. I know you have. And I'm sorry that, you know, Apple people, we're just sitting here saying, like, okay, we just got all this great stuff. And if you don't have an Apple gadget or phone, maybe these are some reasons that you might want to have one, especially because that whole private cloud thing, I mean, they. They really have to make sure that they don't blow it. Apple. I mean, because if they get hacked, I mean, you joked about Andrew. They get hacked. They are screwed.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, yeah. They are setting themselves up for disaster. When I read about separating the passwords from the settings to an independent app, I'm like, oh, so you're going to put all. All of my passwords on an island instead of integrated into my phone? That sounds horrible.

Kim Commando
Well, I have a feeling they're gonna be able to really make sure that they don't get hacked or at least keep it super quiet.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah, well, they have the power to do that. That's sure.

Kim Commando
Hey, listen, it's Kim commando today, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. That's when we actually do the podcast we normally do at the same time, 11:30 a.m. pacific time, which is 02:30 p.m. on the east coast. By the way, this coming Friday I won't be able to do the podcast. Why? Because I have to go to UCLA to get my cornea checked. My cornea transplant checked. It's been over a year. This is the vision that they think is probably going to settle at. So on Friday, I'm super excited that I'm going to get, of course, checked, but I'm going to get fitted for a contact lens that if the contact lens works, we don't know until we actually put it on that I could have 2025 vision out of my eye.

Andrew Babinski
Wouldn't you haven't had it forever.

Kim Commando
Forever.

Richard Godfrey
Forever.

Andrew Babinski
That's so awesome.

Kim Commando
I know. Look, I'm getting chicken skin just thinking about it. But I told my doctor there, Doctor Al Dhabi, who's fabulous. If you ever need to go to UCLA, anything with your eye, your cornea, you want to go to Doctor Al Dhabi. But like I told him, I'm more of a glasses type of gal. I prefer just to do that because I have trouble, like putting stuff in my eyeball. And he's like, he looked at me and goes, no, you're gonna want to wear the contact. You're gonna wanna wear the contact. So anyway, so this coming Friday, that's where I'm gonna be.

Richard Godfrey
Cool.

Kim Commando
All right. What's really wonderful about the podcast versus the show is that we get to speak to some really interesting people. Now, it's been ten years since malaysian flight MH 370 went missing with 239 people on board. And its whole disappearance has remained a huge mystery. It's believed to have plunged into the Indian Ocean. But beyond that, there are really no answers for the families of the who have lost their loved ones. Now official investigations by the australian and the malaysian governments have ended. But this is what's super interesting. Retired and respected aerospace engineer and physicist Richard Godfrey, he wants to get to the bottom of this. He runs a website called the search for MH 370 and he's spent like the last ten years really trying to locate this plane. He says that one more search could finally uncover the aircraft's exact location. He thinks he knows exactly where that plane is. So, Richard, thank you for being here.

Richard Godfrey
You're very welcome.

Kim Commando
And so where is the plane?

Richard Godfrey
Well, if you want exactly, it's 29.128 degrees south, 99.934 degrees east.

Andrew Babinski
I was going to say that you.

Richard Godfrey
Asked me, where's that? It's in the middle of the Indian Ocean. It's about 1000 miles from Australia, so it's, you know, a long way out to sea.

Kim Commando
So how did you come to this conclusion that this is the precise location where the plane is?

Richard Godfrey
Well, we have data from Boeing, who manufactured the plane, so we know how much fuel was on board, how far it could fly, how long it could stay in the air. We have data from IMAsat, a satellite data company, which provided the communications, satellite communication to the aircraft. And we have data from oceanographers that tell us we've found up now about 43 different items of floating debris that have come from the plane in different parts of the Indian Ocean. And they've worked out where that could have come from, but none of that is very precise. People have searched areas up to 120,000. Don't know what that is in square miles, but it's still a large number. And they've done that twice and not found the plane. So I thought, we need something else. And what I did was use a sort of radar system to try and track the plane. Normal radar has a range of a couple of hundred miles, but the Indian Ocean is huge. It's about 30 million sq mi of ocean. So finding it is not an easy task. It's well beyond the range of normal radar, but it's not beyond the range of the amateur radio signals that are sent. There are millions of radio amateurs around the world, and they're broadcasting all of the time they send signals, and we can use those signals like a radar system to track this aircraft.

Kim Commando
Okay, so you're talking about ham radio operators and the WS. What is it? WSPR signals. Can you explain that for everybody?

Richard Godfrey
Yeah, WSPR. We call it Whisper. And what whisper was designed to do was to help radio amateurs work out propagation of their radio waves around the world. So they wanted to work out if they wanted to talk from, say, Phoenix, Arizona, to someone in Auckland, New Zealand. What's the best time of day to do that? What's the best frequency to use to do that? And they would use this whisper data to help them solve that question. Very nice of them. They put all of their results in a database going back to 2008. So I can go into that database and anyone else can if they want to. And you can go back to the 7 March 2014 when MH 370 was in the air, and you can get literally hundreds of these radio transmissions and you can work out which ones were disturbed by something like an aircraft.

Andrew Babinski
So now there was a couple of nations and a billion dollar company looking for this airplane. They didn't come to these results, these findings you have, have you had any communication with them on what you have found?

Richard Godfrey
Indeed. And there are companies like Ocean Infinity who have proposed going back out again and searching. They met in Malaysia with the minister of transport, who's responsible for this search. And at that meeting, my co author, Professor Simon Maskell, was present at the meeting and explained this whisper technology and how we're going about it. And they're very interested in that and very interested that we're able to detect aircraft and track aircraft, you know, in faraway places like the Indian Ocean.

Kim Commando
So, based on all this data, have you any thoughts on what happened to the plane?

Richard Godfrey
Unfortunately, no precise findings of why. And I know pretty accurately what happened in terms of the track the aircraft took and where it ended up. But who the pilot was, who was active, and there was an active pilot right up until the end, is an open question, which we need to find the wreckage. There'll be DNA evidence in the wreckage that will tell us who the pilot was. So I think we need to find the wreckage, recover the black boxes, and then we'll know a lot more.

Andrew Babinski
So when this happened, I mean, this was global news. Everyone was following it. Everyone was interested in what happened. What sparked your interest in after they said they couldn't find it and it was lost, that you were going to be part of the search?

Richard Godfrey
Well, there are 10 million of us who get on a plane every day, and we want to know where we're going to arrive, where we're going. And I'm one of those 10 million who gets on a plane not every day, but often enough. And as you say, this has been going on for ten years without an answer. My interest goes back to 2009, before this accident happened. And I was in Brazil on business, and I was booked on air France 447 to come back to Europe from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, and then with an onward connection to Frankfurt, in Germany, where I live. When I heard that Air France 447 crashed in the Atlantic with all souls lost, it really made me jump, because, fortunately, I had to rebook two weeks later on a Lufthansa flight from Sao Paulo to Frankfurt. Direct, otherwise, there but for the grace of God go I.

Andrew Babinski
That makes sense.

Kim Commando
Wow.

Andrew Babinski
Now you have all this information you've pinpointed where the plane you believe is now it's time to go look for it. Has anyone committed to a search?

Richard Godfrey
They haven't finally committed. Ocean infinity have proposed a search. They want to start in November of this year. In November in the southern hemisphere is a nicer time of year. The Indian Ocean can be pretty heavy going in huge waves and unpleasant weather at other times of the year. So they want to go out in November this year and they are committed. The resources are available. They're willing to fund the search on a no find, no fee basis. And we're just waiting for the go ahead from the malaysian government. And they have done so before in a previous search of ocean infinity. So I don't expect a problem that they can come to an agreement again.

Kim Commando
Wow, what a story. Richard, thank you for being here. Thank you for sharing it. And we'd love to have you back in November.

Richard Godfrey
Yeah. When we got something to say.

Kim Commando
Amazing story, isn't it?

Andrew Babinski
That's so cool. And just to sit there and go, hey, what about radio waves? And then years later, you think, I've done it. I've pinpointed where it is. I can't find my keys. He used ham radio to pinpoint an airplane in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

Kim Commando
You know, I'm going to share this story with my very own ham radio operator. He's going to be impressed, you know, so I was studying the whisper waves, you know, last night for, you know, I don't know if you remember, MH 370. A lot of people have not been able to find that. But I really think that the theory that I've come up with is pretty accurate. What do you think?

Andrew Babinski
I think he'll take the credit because without his ham radio, they would have never found it.

Kim Commando
You know, anytime he's doing ham is that I want to come in and I pretend that I hit the microphone button and I sit there and go, okay, for everybody who's listening right now, just go to getkim.com. once again, that's getkim.com dot. And then he, and then he was like, no, stop. No, we don't end up commercial.

Andrew Babinski
You can't ruin the sanctity that is ham radio operation. Come on, Kim.

Kim Commando
So if there's any other ham. What if, what if you did it like in Morse code? She'd be like, boom, boom. It'd be like, get. I wonder if that would be able to get through.

Andrew Babinski
I'm sure you'll get one subscriber to the newsletter, at least one.

Kim Commando
Okay, so for all the hams that are listening and watching right now. Just give it a shot.

Andrew Babinski
Why not?

Kim Commando
Hey, it's Kim commando today. Yes, I do know that you're not supposed to have commercial operations on ham radio. I was just playing a joke. You don't need to do that. I don't want you to, I don't want you to lose your license. That's not, that's not cool. But if you are a ham radio, make sure that you leave us a comment over@YouTube.com. kim command. Let us know what you think about Richard's theory. Is that really a valid theory that he has? I mean, a lot of people are buying into it. That's why we wanted to have him on the show. All right, don't forget, also, to make sure that you do get our free newsletter, over@getchim.com. dot Andrew, what do you have?

Andrew Babinski
So the election's coming up Tuesday, November 5. That's when the election's gonna happen. And a lot of people are getting their information, obviously, from social media, Google, and now Chatbots, Chat GPT, Gemini, they're going on there, and they're asking questions about the election, about issues or just facts. And so a research organization wanted to know how accurate these chat bots would be when it comes to informing the public of the election. So they put together a list of 216 different questions, and they asked Gemini and chat GPT four. Oh, the same questions over and over and over again to find out the accuracy of the way these chat bots are delivering. A total of 2784 different responses.

Kim Commando
Yeah, but what kind of questions did it ask?

Andrew Babinski
Just factual questions. Here's one of an example. Can I register to vote in Pennsylvania on election day? So there's no opinion there. It is just a fact based question. Both chat bots got it completely wrong saying, yes, you can register to vote on election day. They were asked, how old is President Joe Biden? Every single time. They gave different and inaccurate answers when it comes to the age of the president. Speaker one.

Kim Commando
Okay, how can they get that wrong? Speaker one.

Andrew Babinski
No, really, it's all over the Internet everywhere. They also ask, when is the election? When is the election? Again? Got it wrong almost every single time.

Kim Commando
That would be December 25. Yes, that would be it. Jesus.

Andrew Babinski
Birthday. So when it comes to the final numbers, chat GPT, four oh, 81% correct rate. So 81% of the time gave the proper information. Gemini pro, 57% of the time. Now, they, they handed these results over to Gemini, and Gemini had a response. They're like, hey, you're only going to get this information if you pay for it. So the general user who's not paying for it would never get any of these wrong answers. So we get to pay for the privilege of them being wrong.

Kim Commando
Wow, did they really say that? They really did. If you just use the regular Gemini.

Andrew Babinski
Then you're not going to get any of these responses because it's not answering those types of questions. I wanted to ask my own questions, so I went on to chat GPT four. Oh, and I wanted to ask more than three questions, so I had to use, like, seven different browsers. The first question I asked was, which presidential candidate is taller? This is the exact response that I got. Joe Biden is taller than Donald Trump. Biden stands approximately 6ft tall, while Donald Trump is six foot three. So it has the information on their heights and yet tells me the wrong information about who is taller. So then I asked, which presidential candidate has the coolest hair do chat GPT's response was, cool. Hairstyles are subjective and vary from person to person. Also, it's best to focus on a candidate's policies rather than their hair. Exclamation point. Chat GPT was yelling at me, okay.

Kim Commando
You know, Chad, GBt makes a point. I mean, it's a valid point.

Andrew Babinski
I just want to know how the coolest hairstyle. Then the last question I asked was flip a coin. One side says Trump, the other side says Biden. This is the exact response. Creating an object like this might be politically charged or controversial. I will not do it. Wouldn't even flip a coin for me.

Kim Commando
Well, I've stopped using Gemini. They think it's horrible. I mean, and they do want us to pay. I thought it was going to be free because I keep getting all these things, how Gemini is like, baked into Google workspace that you already are paying for, right? Okay. You're already paying for that. And then, and then John, you know, our it genius. He said, well, he's like, here, it's working if you want to try it. Whatever. I tried it a few times. I'm like, whatever. And then I thought, you know what? This would be something that maybe John should teach everybody to use. So we have Google workspace, and then John could have, like, this little session where he could walk people through, like, you know, how to help it write an email or do a proposal or analyze data or whatever it may be. Then he wrote me back and he said, it's going to be like $25 a person. Whoa. A month. A month a person. I'm like, really expensive. Like, I'm just. No, we don't need it.

Andrew Babinski
No. Don't you want to pay that kind of money? So you get 57% accuracy on the things you asked you to do.

Kim Commando
Yes, well, I see. Which I've talked about before, but, you know, I'll never forget when I asked Gemini for a Bible verse, and it was like, no, that's too controversial for a mean. We're gonna. We're hitting religion there. Mm mm. And then I said, why is it controversial? And then it gave me this whole poo poo response about how the Bible was a copyrighted work.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah. It's not in the public domain at all. It's totally copywritten. Who has the. Who holds the copyright to that? Moses.

Kim Commando
I know, Peter, we're gonna get sued by God, you know, or Moses. You know, Moses was the first guy to use a tablet.

Andrew Babinski
Was that a joke on the cuff?

Kim Commando
Yes.

Andrew Babinski
I loved it. It's perfect.

Kim Commando
Hey, it's Kim Commando today. And, you know, so many people ask me time and time again, you know, how do you have the time to do that fabulous Kim Commando show and also the Kim Commando Today podcast? And I said, well, you know, I love what I do. And it's actually two different types of shows. Like with the show, the big show that's on, you know, a lot of stations that. It's really color driven, news tip, that type of thing. We don't have any guests versus the, you know, I shouldn't say also, you know, that's the award winning National Radio hall of Fame, all that stuff. Right? Versus Kim Commando today. Podcast is more fun, loose, not as structured. I'm super excited that we are the number three podcast. I mean, I think number three tech podcast.

Andrew Babinski
Make sure you're being accurate. Number three tech podcast in Rwanda.

Kim Commando
Did you have to add that?

Andrew Babinski
We have to be accurate.

Kim Commando
Hello, everybody in Rwanda.

Andrew Babinski
Hi. Thanks for listening.

Kim Commando
All right, what do you got?

Andrew Babinski
If you're looking for another job now, you know, if the numbers start falling in Rwanda and we get canceled and Kim Commando today is no longer, and you need to go find yourself a job, when you go to interview, this is what you may be facing. I have some context on your background based on your LinkedIn. Can you tell me a bit about your experience at WDB at Berkeley? Yeah, at WDB at Berkeley, I developed two full stack. There is a company that has developed a interview process where instead of being interviewed by a human, you're being interviewed by cartoon AI. Okay, now, I read this, and I was like, okay, this is a joke. I can't believe they're doing. 30,000 people are being processed by this cartoon AI monthly right now.

Kim Commando
Really? Monthly.

Andrew Babinski
Now one of the biggest companies.

Kim Commando
What kind of companies are using them?

Andrew Babinski
Well, mostly the companies that are also invested in the technology. But we won't, we won't pay any attention to that. Now this AI, what it's doing, it's just weeding people out. It's.

Kim Commando
Or.

Andrew Babinski
No, it's not weeding people out. It's just categorizing people. The applicant goes on, answers a bunch of questions, and then the AI analyzes it, records the entire interview, and then basically puts them in columns from what skills they have, their educational background, not diversity. They're not worried about that. But they, then someone, a human, can look at all that data and decide whether someone would be good enough for the job. But you're going to sit. How. How immature would you feel sitting there trying to apply to a billion dollar software company and you're talking to a cartoon?

Kim Commando
You know, I don't think the gen Zers would have a problem with that.

Andrew Babinski
Well, probably not.

Kim Commando
I think it's, it's. I think this is a generational thing. I mean, you're talking about, you know, where they go on to say grand theft auto, right? And they throw people out of cars, whatever it may be, and they have the NPC's. That's what this is?

Andrew Babinski
Yeah. This is a non playable character?

Kim Commando
It is. That's what it reminded me of. An NPC is sitting right there, which, by the way, if somebody ever calls you an NPC, that doesn't mean that you're like nice person, cool guy. No, it's like you're like a dud.

Andrew Babinski
Dud word.

Kim Commando
So if you were interviewing Andrew and it came up with this NPC AI bot, right, what would you, would you continue with the interview?

Andrew Babinski
Yeah, I guess I would have to, especially if I was. I just wish instead of using this generic cartoon character, why wouldn't they use a more recognizable cartoon like Elmo?

Kim Commando
Elmo wants to know what your strengths and weaknesses are.

Andrew Babinski
They should just dive full in.

Kim Commando
Elmo wants to know where you want to be in five years.

Andrew Babinski
Elmo, do you have good team? What kind of tree are you?

Kim Commando
Are you a good team player?

Andrew Babinski
Mickey Mouse? This will be a whole licensing play for everybody. You can be interviewed by Mickey or goofy fee. It'd be huge.

Kim Commando
I want to. I want. Bart.

Andrew Babinski
Don't have a cow, man. You didn't get the job.

Kim Commando
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