Wells Fargo fires employees for faking work

This episode delves into the recent controversy surrounding Wells Fargo's decision to fire several employees who were caught using "mouse jigglers" to simulate activity on their work computers while working from home.

1. Many Wells Fargo employees were using mouse jigglers to feign productivity during remote work.
2. The company conducted scans of work-from-home setups to detect these practices.
3. This incident has sparked a broader debate on the monitoring of remote employees and privacy concerns.
4. It highlights a growing distrust between employers and employees in remote work environments.
5. The use of work simulation tools like mouse jigglers raises ethical and practical questions about workplace surveillance.

1: Introduction to the controversy

Overview of the Wells Fargo employee firing incident involving mouse jigglers. Discussion on how it reflects on remote work culture and employee monitoring.

• Kim Komando: "Wells Fargo fired a bunch of people for using mouse jigglers."
• Andrew Babinski: "They did a scan of all their work-from-home people."

2: Analysis of remote work surveillance

Discussion on the implications of using surveillance tools in remote work and how it affects employee privacy and trust.

• Kim Komando: "Stuff that makes it look like you're doing work."
• Andrew Babinski: "Everyone on the Internet is terrified because everyone was using mouse jigglers."

1. Evaluate Remote Work Policies: Companies should reassess their remote work policies to balance productivity with employee privacy.
2. Use Technology Ethically: Employers should use monitoring technology responsibly and transparently to maintain trust.
3. Employee Training: Workers should be trained on the acceptable use of work-from-home technology and the implications of violating policies.
4. Open Communication: Encourage open communication between employees and management regarding monitoring and productivity tools.
5. Review and Adapt: Regularly review the effectiveness and ethical considerations of surveillance tools used in remote working environments.

Over a dozen workers were caught faking keyboard activity and using mouse jigglers to look busy. Plus, CVS recalls 133 medications, the controversial Windows Recall faces a delay, and a must-know site for those wary of flying Boeing planes.

People

Kim Komando, Andrew Babinski

Companies

Wells Fargo

Content Warnings:

None

Kim Commando
Hey, it's Kim Commando today, your daily podcast to keep you up to date with all things digital and beyond. And I'd love to have you be a part of our podcast. You can make an appointment to speak with me. Just head over to commando.com. and on the top right, there's a button that says, email, Kim, fill that out, and that's it.

Andrew Babinski
So we are about, what, five years removed from the pandemic.

Kim Commando
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
I mean, from the beginning where it started till now, and we've kind of moved past it.

Kim Commando
It's kind of crazy to think about.

Andrew Babinski
Right.

Kim Commando
It just messed me up a little.

Andrew Babinski
Bit for half a decade.

Kim Commando
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
That we were wearing masks. But one thing that came of it that really americans really connected to was working from home. And they loved it. And they still love it.

Kim Commando
They love it.

Andrew Babinski
And then what we didn't realize is that there's one thing that took the whole work from home thing and ruined it. Brought it to its knees.

Kim Commando
What's that?

Andrew Babinski
I have Mouse jiggler. Wells Fargo fired a bunch of people for using mouse jigglers.

Kim Commando
You're gonna need to find mouse jiggler for our pals out there.

Andrew Babinski
So mouse Jiggler is basically what they did was they did a scan of all their work from home people, and they found out that a bunch of them were using work simulation software. Say that 37 times fast.

Kim Commando
Yeah. Stuff that makes it look like you're doing work.

Andrew Babinski
Right. It moves your mouse around, taps a bunch of keys. Yeah. Goes to a TPS report, and then minimizes it. And they found out that a bunch of people are using this thing called a mouse jiggler because there's software that the company has that's monitoring them, and all it's looking for is activity, life, breathing in, breathing out. We'll pay you. But they were using this and they fired a bunch of them. And now everyone on the Internet is terrified because everyone was using mouse jigglers and not working when they were working from home.

Kim Commando
You know what I did when I worked from home? I worked.

Andrew Babinski
No, can't do that.

Kim Commando
Who are these people with jobs where they can just wiggle their mouse and that's their. Well, they don't have the jobs anymore, I guess.

Andrew Babinski
Do not have the jobs at all anymore. Welcome to Kim Commando. Today. No, Kim Commando. She is getting a contact. She almost done. She's almost done with her whole eye project. And she'll be able to see out of both eyes. What'd she see? Like 2000, 8000 vision or something like that.

Kim Commando
8000 vision.

Andrew Babinski
Yes. She's going to see through things. She'll be able to diagnose cancer from 100ft away in people. It's going to be amazing. But we're filling in Andrew Babinski, Allie Seligman, and we will handle today's Kim Commando Today podcast. Thank you for tuning in live on YouTube. I actually looked at the YouTube numbers. Kim was right on Wednesday.

Kim Commando
I know we've got all kinds of subscribers.

Andrew Babinski
It's so cool. We appreciate it. Thank you. If you're not subscribed and you are watching right there, just click it, you're done. Subscribe. No one will live Monday.

Kim Commando
Literally one button.

Andrew Babinski
Wednesdays and Fridays. Top five things is how we start the show every single day.

Kim Commando
There is a federal agency called the CISA. Do you know what that stands for, Andrew?

Andrew Babinski
It's the CIA, but it's the smaller version. Central smaller intelligence agency.

Kim Commando
No, it's the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure security Agency. Cybersecurity agency. Right. People are posing as CISA agents, calling people. The way that they're doing this, they're looking up people's real names and titles who work for this agency, and then they'll call you. Andrew, this is Jim, the chief security man. That's obviously rooted.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, they're really good. These scammers know all the terms.

Kim Commando
They're way better than me because I'm not a scammer. But then they're tricking people into sending them money. The National Security Agency is never going to call you and ask for a gift card for crypto, for a bank transfer. None of this stuff. It's not real. It's never going to be real. Hang up the phone.

Andrew Babinski
Just don't answer your phone.

Kim Commando
There's the answer. Never answer your phone.

Andrew Babinski
Stop answering your phone.

Kim Commando
What if it's someone you know? Still no answer.

Andrew Babinski
I don't trust it. They can be faking it. They can be in some sort of Indonesian VPN pretending to be the FBI.

Kim Commando
I mean, that's actually true. You can fake the caller id that shows up on a phone. It happens all the time.

Andrew Babinski
I'm not gonna answer it. I'm not answering it anymore. I'm not answering texts, emails, just pigeons. Send those pigeons that have notes tied to their ankles to my. Yeah, send those to my house if you want to talk to me.

Kim Commando
Number two, the FAA is investigating Boeing, of course, and they just found a bunch of counterfeit titanium, made it into the plane.

Andrew Babinski
What's counterfeit titanium?

Kim Commando
Plastic spoons, kind of. Because they were noticing a bunch of little tiny holes in the titanium, which should not happen.

Andrew Babinski
Well, it's titanium. It's pretty strong.

Kim Commando
Yeah. Except if it's, like, not really full titanium, like some kind of amalgate. They had falsified documents. It's this whole thing. So one of their suppliers apparently was giving them bad titanium. And maybe that's why.

Andrew Babinski
Maybe?

Kim Commando
Maybe.

Andrew Babinski
Is it like play doh that they're just covered in old pennies and they're like, no government? This is definitely titanium.

Kim Commando
And that seems kind of right. If you have a flight coming up, a reminder to you, you should go to amiflyingonabowing.com just for some peace of mind or some, you know, reason to get all your friends and family to think good thoughts and pray for you.

Andrew Babinski
Are you saying people shouldn't fly on boeings? Is this your official opinion?

Kim Commando
I'm not saying anything. I think you should know if you were flying on a Boeing power. I recently flew on a Boeing, which I didn't realize until it was happening, and I crossed my fingers.

Andrew Babinski
Poke a hole through the titanium wall.

Kim Commando
No, yours. Outside the plane. People are really mad at Roku right now. Do you know motion smoothing?

Andrew Babinski
So here's the thing. I saw this story this morning. Yeah, I read this story this morning.

Kim Commando
Okay.

Andrew Babinski
Did not comprehend the story.

Kim Commando
Oh, I'm about to explain it to you. There is a mode on your tv. Pretty much every new tv has it. It's called motion smoothing.

Andrew Babinski
Okay.

Kim Commando
And if you have it on, it kind of makes things look, like, really dreamy. Right. Everything is super smooth and, like, the edges are rounded.

Andrew Babinski
Is that like the Vaseline they used to put on Barbara Walters camera in the nineties?

Kim Commando
Yes. It's like your whole tv got vaselined. That's a really good point. It makes sports look awful because it makes the movement really weird and choppy, as you might imagine. But motion smoothing. Roku just had an update. It put tvs into motion smoothing. You can't turn it off.

Andrew Babinski
So everything's motion smoothed.

Kim Commando
Everything's smooth.

Andrew Babinski
Even something you want rough is now smooth.

Kim Commando
Your roughest content is now smooth.

Andrew Babinski
There's a lot of rough content that I don't want smooth at all.

Kim Commando
It's all TCL. Tvs are kind of screwed right now. So if you have one of those, it's not just, you know, it's not just you. It's because of your roku updates.

Andrew Babinski
Great. Don't throw your roku away. They're going to update it again and probably fix this problem.

Kim Commando
Yes. Yeah. They don't have the fix yet. But they will soon, I'm sure. Number four, some news to make you mad.

Andrew Babinski
All right.

Kim Commando
Okay. Remember all the drama with Elon Musk?

Andrew Babinski
Yep.

Kim Commando
And this $56 billion pay package.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah.

Kim Commando
A judge said. What was the, quote? Unfathomable. He said, this amount of money, this pay package, is unfathomable to run Tesla. Okay. Then it went to the shareholders for approval. They approved it.

Andrew Babinski
Of course they did.

Kim Commando
$56 billion.

Andrew Babinski
You're saying they fathomed it?

Kim Commando
They fathomed it. It turns out it was kind of. I mean, there's a lot of Tesla and Elon fanboys right on the board.

Andrew Babinski
What would a company have to be worth for that pay package to be $3 trillion?

Kim Commando
I don't have a number for you.

Andrew Babinski
$5 trillion.

Kim Commando
That's so much money. I don't think any one person should make $56 billion. I'm gonna go out there and say it. I don't think so.

Andrew Babinski
You liberal.

Kim Commando
56 billion.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, yeah. Whatever. Don't try and push your politics on us, Ally. I think 56 billion should be minimum wage.

Kim Commando
You sound like the liberal now.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, that's true.

Kim Commando
Yeah. Some other x news. Indonesia says if you're gonna show porn, we're not gonna keep your app up here.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah, they're gonna ban it.

Kim Commando
Yeah, they're gonna ban it. So they've sent some. Don't do this here. We're gonna ban you. I don't think they're gonna care. I think they're gonna say, fine, ban it.

Andrew Babinski
Well, but here's the thing. Am I the only one who goes on Twitter? Porn is on Twitter everywhere.

Kim Commando
Is it?

Andrew Babinski
It's not a new thing.

Kim Commando
So I think you are the only one who goes on Twitter. But do you really see it if you go into it all the time? I went on. So I'm logged into Kim's account so I can answer questions, whatever. I mean, I was looking.

Andrew Babinski
And you couldn't find it?

Kim Commando
I didn't search, but I was scrolling. I didn't find anything.

Andrew Babinski
And it's not like it's only for me seeing it. I mean, it has 50,000 likes and 20 million views. I mean, people put porn up there. It's been happening forever. Remember the whole big thing where you couldn't show a woman's front on Instagram and everybody was all up. I didn't want to say nipples, but I'll say nipples on Instagram. And everybody was up in arms. Twitter was like, we've been showing nipples forever. We're nipple central over here. Come on down.

Kim Commando
And we're not talking, like, in the breastfeeding sense or something.

Andrew Babinski
No.

Kim Commando
We're talking about just, like, topless ladies.

Andrew Babinski
Yes. It's a porn site. Twitter is like 80% porn, maybe 75. I don't want to go crazy.

Kim Commando
Well, here's the difference, I think, when it's happening versus saying, like, it's all right.

Andrew Babinski
That's true. That is the difference. Encouraging and letting it just live there in the background, two totally different things.

Kim Commando
Yeah. By the way, if you want to block anything from your timeline, maybe your kids are on x Twitter and you don't want them to see certain things. We just put on in the newsletter and on commando.com dot. If you search. Well, I guess if you search Twitter porn, you can find.

Andrew Babinski
You've been there, done that.

Kim Commando
Hey, you can find steps on how to block all that stuff from your feedback. Number five. When you go to whatever pharmacy you go to and you need an over the counter medication, are you going to buy the brand name or are you buying the, like, Walgreens or whatever off brand store brand.

Andrew Babinski
So I use Walgreens. That's my pharmacy. And they always recommend it. They're like, your prescription for your kids will be $23. Or you can get this one for eight.

Kim Commando
No, the over the counter. So, like, not prescriptions. Like, if you need cheap stuff.

Andrew Babinski
I always buy the cheap stuff.

Kim Commando
I do, too. Yeah. I don't buy the fancy ones.

Andrew Babinski
It's the same ingredient. If you look at the package, it's exactly the same.

Kim Commando
Yes. Which is also my thinking, but.

Andrew Babinski
Okay, I don't like.

Kim Commando
Yes, but, yeah, this isn't a. This is not a good one. Over the past ten years, CV's has had to pull 133 different over the counter store brand meds off the shelf. Same ingredients. Sure. But they found things like bacteria infestations, moldy factories, incorrect dosing.

Andrew Babinski
Okay, so it is still the same ingredients.

Kim Commando
Same ingredients.

Andrew Babinski
Just how they're prepared.

Kim Commando
Maybe not the best, you know, in terms of how are people getting sick? They are. Yes. That's why these are being recalled. Right. Because people get sick or they realize, oh, all this really gross stuff was happening at the factory where these are made. CV's is actually the biggest defender. Walgreens only 70 recalls over the same period. Walmart, only 51.

Andrew Babinski
Really?

Kim Commando
Yeah. So if you're gonna go store brand, I guess the takeaway is. Go, great value. Is that the Walmart brand?

Andrew Babinski
Yeah, I think you're right.

Kim Commando
Okay, go. Great value. Go. Walgreens, not CV's.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah. CV's will find some mops clean some stuff up.

Kim Commando
They'll be fine.

Andrew Babinski
Welcome back to Kim Commando today. This is not the Kim Commando radio show. The Kim commando radio show is on. I believe you could correct me if I'm wrong. 6.7 million radio stations.

Kim Commando
That's correct.

Andrew Babinski
In this galaxy. No, the Kim commando radio show. 500 radio stations across the country. It's a weekend show. It's more tech focused with Kim, helping out callers, having conversations with the listeners. This is the podcast. We just, you know, hang out, talk about Twitter, porn, goof around, have fun.

Kim Commando
She's probably not going to say nipples on that show.

Andrew Babinski
No, definitely not going to say nipples. She'll bleep it. If you want to listen to the Kim commando show, though, it's now available with commercials as a podcast. So wherever you listen to podcasts, just look for. Listen for the Kim Commando show. If you want a commercial free, you can go to the Kim commando community.

Kim Commando
You can.

Andrew Babinski
And get it for, you know, couple bucks a month.

Kim Commando
You can also get it on Spotify or Apple podcasts.

Andrew Babinski
Correct?

Kim Commando
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
But you can listen to it now for free, 100% with commercials. Just find your favorite podcast app. I need to find a new podcast app because I recently switched from Apple to. Why are you looking at me like that?

Kim Commando
Same.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, okay. From Apple to Android. And I did not know Android did not have their own built in podcast app.

Kim Commando
Well, they did forever. But Google podcast, which I loved, it just went away, like, a couple months ago.

Andrew Babinski
Those silly, silly people.

Kim Commando
I know. I've been using Spotify, and it's not great.

Andrew Babinski
Not great.

Kim Commando
It's not great.

Andrew Babinski
You just told people to go to Spotify to get our show. Now you're saying it's not great?

Kim Commando
It's not great.

Andrew Babinski
I downloaded some, like, audio craze 64 or something.

Kim Commando
That sounds like malware.

Andrew Babinski
I've been hacked. But there's ads, like, all the time, just nonstop. So that's one thing. Apple has it going from. The podcast app is pretty cool.

Kim Commando
I'm going to research this for both of us.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, nice.

Kim Commando
I'll find us the best options, and then we can figure it out and we can put in our newsletter. Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
All right. So Microsoft, you heard of them?

Kim Commando
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
Okay. They. They're coming out with the AI, which is artificial intelligence.

Kim Commando
Oh, they're coming out with it. They made it.

Andrew Babinski
Their whole. Their whole future is on these copilot plus PCs. That is what's going to drive computer sales for the next four to five years for Microsoft.

Kim Commando
Yes. So this is the new version of their laptops. That are like, AI. First, everything in here is driven by AI, correct?

Andrew Babinski
And there's a new feature in there called recall. And I'm sure they were sitting around a board meeting and someone's like, hey, we need some new ideas for these AI PCs. And someone's like, how about this? How about every few seconds, your computer takes a snapshot of everything you're doing? And then in just real speech, you could ask your computer, what was I doing last Tuesday? Or when did I make that appointment with Bob? Or, where's those photos I downloaded from Twitter? Where did I hide them? And this recall will be able, through artificial intelligence, find everything you did and give you the information again. And people speak in real language.

Kim Commando
Amazed. Everyone cheered when Bill from marketing had that idea. Everyone cheered.

Andrew Babinski
And then one lone female intern in the back of the room was like, what about security? And they're like, shut up, Brenda. And they went out and they released it and they put it on everybody's computer, even if they didn't want it, even if they didn't ask for it. And now everyone's mad.

Kim Commando
Everyone's mad.

Andrew Babinski
Here's why, though. People don't trust Microsoft. If Apple did this, you'd have some complaints. But it wouldn't be the uproar that it is, I think, with Microsoft, because people just don't trust Microsoft. They don't trust the fact that Microsoft's gonna sit there and watch them. And they say they don't have access to the information, and they say they're not gonna bundle it up in a nice, pretty package and sell it to someone. And they say they're not using it to train their AI's. By the way, can I do a side note real quick, please? Side note. Big companies stop using human beings to train your AI's because, oh, that's not gonna stop. We are stupid.

Kim Commando
Oh, I get what you're saying.

Andrew Babinski
Humans are awful. I mean, and I'm not excluding myself. There's like 19 people on this entire planet that you could actually monitor to train AI.

Kim Commando
Yeah. Everybody else.

Andrew Babinski
Adults.

Kim Commando
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
And I'm not excluding myself. I, on a daily basis, misspell the word restaurant. I lock my keys in my car like three times a year. It's awful. I am an idiot.

Kim Commando
Yeah. Don't train anything based on that.

Andrew Babinski
You want me to train your AI? No. So don't stop doing that. But people don't trust Microsoft. And so because of this, everybody is revolting. And Microsoft had to respond, and their response was, okay, we're leaving it in there. But instead of you being automatically opted in, you have to personally opt in.

Kim Commando
Okay.

Andrew Babinski
So that's the difference. That's one difference, yeah. No one can access it unless they have your credentials. So only you will be able to get to it.

Kim Commando
Okay. So it's actually just on device, it's like local storage kind of thing, correct. Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
And you have to log in every single time you want to access your recall. You'll have to give it your authentication.

Kim Commando
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
Is that enough? Is this gonna work? Is the Microsoft recall dead on arrival?

Kim Commando
Probably, but. So this is only gonna be in these new AI computers, the copilot plus PCs. Right. Cause they're the only ones that have the chips that are like built to actually do this. So. Okay. Is it going to be there when it's time for all of us to buy, I use a Mac laptop, oddly enough, but when it's time for the rest of us to buy a Windows.

Andrew Babinski
Computer, I think it'll still be there, but I don't. I think anyone will see what it's asking to do.

Kim Commando
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
I mean, whether you're a creeper or not. I mean, if you're doing bad stuff on your computer, obviously you don't want literally all of your crimes and misdemeanors recorded.

Kim Commando
Well, and it's not even crimes. Right. It's just. That's the very idea of it. Because all of this stuff is probably not. Probably all of this stuff is recorded in different ways. Yeah. All of your search history, it's right there in your browser. All of your, you know what you're doing. So it's not like.

Andrew Babinski
But it's the access to it.

Kim Commando
Yeah. And it's the one company having all of it. Here's the file. Here's exactly what Andrew did on his computer.

Andrew Babinski
But they're not only having it, they already have it. They already have everything you do in computer, but it's the access to it where if, let's say we were together as a couple and you went, who was he emailing? Who was, was this computer emailing yesterday at 04:00 when I was trying to hide an email from you?

Kim Commando
Totally. And I could ask it in plain language like that.

Andrew Babinski
Correct. And they would find you the answer. But we did learn that people do not trust Microsoft, and probably deservedly so, but that is that the Internet made us well aware of that when this recall was launched. Also, they also should not auto. We learned this from you too.

Kim Commando
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
And Apple don't just give us stuff. We're not asking for.

Kim Commando
Amazon sidewalk did the same thing. We don't want their Wi Fi network. No. Let people opt into things every time.

Andrew Babinski
Just ask. If it's such a great product, just ask. We'll say yes. Give it to me. Welcome back to Kim Commando. Today. No. Kim Commando. She's finishing up on her eyes. She's gonna be. She's gonna be seer. She's gonna see things.

Kim Commando
She's gonna have better vision than both of us.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, yeah.

Kim Commando
How's your vision? Awful.

Andrew Babinski
Awful. It's like four. I don't even get a second number. My vision's so bad. She'll be back on Monday when the podcast returns. But if you need Kim to give you all her information, she has her free newsletter. We have five minutes every single day.

Kim Commando
Come on. Who doesn't?

Andrew Babinski
And it's free.

Kim Commando
I know you're spending more than that on the toilet.

Andrew Babinski
There was a win. We had a. Yeah, that's true. Especially if you're a dad. There was an emailer who, a couple of weeks ago, sent a message to Kim, and he said, kim commando, you always provide us with the best. And then he used an expletive to describe all the content. A positive expletive described. Yeah, to describe all the content that's provided in the newsletter. You can't get a better endorsement than that.

Kim Commando
You can't. It's the best stuff.

Andrew Babinski
The best stuff. Getkim.com dot. So I was bopping around as you do, bipping and bopping around the end of this morning, trying to find things to talk about, and there was all of these. Just a group of weird, interesting, silly, funny tech stories.

Kim Commando
Great.

Andrew Babinski
And I was like, we can't put all those in the show unless. Unless we turn them into a little game. And I'm gonna have you finish the headline. Guess the missing one.

Kim Commando
I'm the contestant on this game. What's the game called?

Andrew Babinski
It's called finish the headline.

Kim Commando
Great. Okay.

Andrew Babinski
I got together with a team of writers this morning about three and three, 4 hours in. That's what we came up with, four different headlines. And one. One word is missing, and I need you to come up with it.

Kim Commando
One single word.

Andrew Babinski
Correct. Well, my gosh. Summer phrases, but two words, max.

Kim Commando
Okay, calm down.

Andrew Babinski
Headline number one. A contestant in a artificial intelligence photo contest was stripped of their victory after judges found out he used a blanket camera. Real photo. So kind of very close. The photo was called the flaming gone. It was a picture of a flamingo with no head.

Kim Commando
I saw it. It was pretty cool. Yeah, it was very artistic.

Andrew Babinski
It was initially awarded first place in the AI category of people's vote and third place overall and the jury prizes. But then they found out it's a real photo and they kicked him out of the context.

Kim Commando
He was trying to prove that, like, human photos are better and he's kind.

Andrew Babinski
Of right, but, like, headline number two, a sign posted outside of a south korean gym went viral. The sign read, only blank women allowed.

Kim Commando
I know this one cause I saw it. Elegant.

Andrew Babinski
Elegant women.

Kim Commando
Isn't that so funny?

Andrew Babinski
The sign fully read, off limits to Ajumas.

Kim Commando
What's an ajuma?

Andrew Babinski
I'll tell you in a second. Only cultivated and elegant women allowed. An ajuma is a catchphrase term for women in their late thirties.

Kim Commando
I would not be allowed a juma. No, Ajuma's allowed.

Andrew Babinski
Ajuma. Wow. You darn ajuma. The gym defended itself by pointing out that they didn't say, we're wrong. They said, listen, we're sorry we hurt your feelings.

Kim Commando
Ajumas.

Andrew Babinski
Ajumas tend to like free stuff and are stingy with their own money. And we don't want em here.

Kim Commando
We want those young ladies who are gonna buy stuff.

Andrew Babinski
Exactly. People on the Internet went crazy with this. It went totally viral. And someone's like, well, just call them bad customers and you don't say, no, bad customers are allowed. Or if someone is in your gym and they're acting up, throw them out.

Kim Commando
Also, I guarantee you there's some 37 year old woman that wants to buy their $15 smoothie or whatever it is.

Andrew Babinski
Right? Yeah. It's not all. It's not a blanket phrase.

Kim Commando
It's me. I'd buy the smoothie.

Andrew Babinski
All right, you ready for number three, ajuma.

Kim Commando
Yes.

Andrew Babinski
Cyprus has elected a blank to represent them in the european parliament.

Kim Commando
Dog close.

Andrew Babinski
YouTube prankster.

Kim Commando
Prankster.

Andrew Babinski
A 24 year old YouTube creator with 2.6 million subscribers. We're right behind him. Sure. Who is best known for his elaborate stunts in which he attempts to get handshakes and hugs from celebrities.

Kim Commando
Classic prankster.

Andrew Babinski
2.6 million people wanted to get young people involved, so he put himself on the ballot. He really wasn't legitimately running. He just put himself on the ballot to send the message out there. Get out and vote. Get involved. 14% increase in voter turnout and he won. Whoa. And he's literally. He's gonna do it.

Kim Commando
He's gonna do it.

Andrew Babinski
He's gonna represent them in european parliament.

Kim Commando
Is he a bad dude?

Andrew Babinski
I don't know.

Kim Commando
Let's hope not.

Andrew Babinski
I don't know what.

Kim Commando
He's a prankster.

Andrew Babinski
A. I don't know what language they speak in Cyprus. And b, I don't know that language to watch his videos and understand. I just saw the story.

Kim Commando
Good story.

Andrew Babinski
And last one, a married man is suing Apple over deleted text messages to blank. You really think about this girlfriend? No. No. You're close sex workers. In the final years of his marriage, a London man was sexting sex workers, setting up dates and then deleting them from his phone.

Kim Commando
As you do.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah. I mean, how else are you going to contact them? His wife then found them on the iMac. And he said in his lawsuit, and I quote, if the message said, these messages have been deleted on this device, that would have been a clue. Or these messages are deleted on this device only, that would have been even better. But if I'm told this message is deleted, then I'm entitled to believe it was deleted. And he's saying, not that this would save his marriage, but the fact that she found out this way made her awful during the divorce process and that if he would have been able to tell her beforehand on his own, do.

Kim Commando
You think he would have told her? No, of course not. He would have told her well after the divorce. No, he never would have told her.

Andrew Babinski
Well, there was no need. They were getting divorced. He didn't really didn't have to.

Kim Commando
Okay. The thing is, he kind of has a point that you're signing with. Oh, no, absolutely not. I do think there's an interesting point, though, that people don't know how their tech works.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah, no, they don't.

Kim Commando
And people don't know that. Like, oh, this is something that I've talked to our it guys here about. People will sign into things with their Apple ID. Nobody who works here now, because we're all too smart for that, will sign in on their work device, on their Apple ID. Okay. Every photo you took with your iPhone is now on your work computer.

Andrew Babinski
All right.

Kim Commando
Is every photo you took on your iPhone appropriate for work? Probably not.

Andrew Babinski
Probably not.

Kim Commando
Yeah. People don't know how that stuff works.

Andrew Babinski
And this guy didn't either.

Kim Commando
But this guy's a scumbag. I hope he doesn't win anything. Is he trying to get, like, he's trying to get money?

Andrew Babinski
Yes, because he says the way she found out about him hiring a bunch of ladies of the night, she went malicious during the divorce process instead of cordial, like the path they were on.

Kim Commando
So she ended up with more of his money and stuff, or came af.

Andrew Babinski
Yes, absolutely. And came after him harder and caused him more legal fees. So how do you combat someone when you get a lot of legal fees? As you sue someone, you get even more legal fees while you're suing them, especially Apple, who you have no chance of ever beating in court. Good luck. Welcome back to Kim Commando. Today, Kim Commando's Hoff Ali and Andrew Babinski, the A team sitting in, filling in for you on a Friday. Dubious. Why is that funny?

Kim Commando
It was just a cool little twang you did.

Andrew Babinski
I'm in a good mood. It's Friday.

Kim Commando
It's Friday. Let's do this.

Andrew Babinski
And you should be in a good mood, too. So do us a favor with a big smile on your face, scroll your mouth down and hit share button, and share this podcast with someone. We're trying to grow it so we can keep doing this every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. And that's one way to help. Another way is if you follow us and drop a comment. We always hear the word algorithm, and no one knows what it means. But the algorithm loves comments.

Kim Commando
No, seriously, though, like, when you interact with us, when you click a button, when you leave a comment, when you, whatever, do anything, that's you telling YouTube or whatever else it is. I like these people.

Andrew Babinski
Right? They're my friends, and it pushes it to other people. We find new, new members of the audience, grow the community even more. And of course, we appreciate it.

Kim Commando
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
Thank you. So, like, comment, share. We'd appreciate it.

Kim Commando
So you just told us about this YouTube prankster. He's gonna be a politician.

Andrew Babinski
Parliament. He's gonna be in parliament.

Kim Commando
Parliament, which sounds so much fancier.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, it's way better.

Kim Commando
Is he gonna have to wear one of those white wigs?

Andrew Babinski
They don't do that, do they?

Kim Commando
Do those? Okay.

Andrew Babinski
No.

Kim Commando
Well, I tried in Cheyenne, Wyoming.

Andrew Babinski
I'm from Wyoming. I've been to Cheyenne.

Kim Commando
You're from Wyoming?

Andrew Babinski
I grew up in Evansville, in Casper, Wyoming.

Kim Commando
That's beautiful.

Andrew Babinski
Be still my heart.

Kim Commando
Wow. That's so nice. A chat GPT powered bot named Vic v I C, which stands for virtual integrated citizen, is running for mayor.

Andrew Babinski
Well, it's Wyoming. I mean, sure.

Kim Commando
So technically, a bot can't run for mayor. It has to be a person. Right. So the person who made it, Victor Miller.

Andrew Babinski
Right?

Kim Commando
He is.

Andrew Babinski
He made his own chatbot.

Kim Commando
He sure did. Yes. So he calls it. He calls himself just the conduit. He says the AI is what listens to the constituents. Basically, his idea is that he will put in, say they're voting on something, and he needs to give his input. Okay. He'll upload all the documents all the supporting research, everything, and let AI make the right decision based on what the voters might want. Which, like, in theory, that sounds okay.

Andrew Babinski
It doesn't sound horrible. He says, can't be any worse.

Kim Commando
He said that the AI mayor has an iq of 155. That's very high. It can scan.

Andrew Babinski
Thank you. Thank you for filling in that gap for me.

Kim Commando
Well, you're not one of the 19. We can't trust you. It can scan government documents. That can do it a lot better than humans who are going to make decisions based on what? Everything.

Andrew Babinski
Well, they're not going to read. First of all, humans are not going to get this huge bill and sit there and say, well, it looks like I'm busy till Wednesday.

Kim Commando
No, no. They're going to let whoever sit down with them and say, here's what this means. Here's how you should vote.

Andrew Babinski
They'll have their staff just summarize it in a one page. They read the front, and then they scope the future of our country.

Kim Commando
Yes. Right now, voters, they can ask the vic campaign questions because Victor Miller's wearing a speaker on his chest.

Andrew Babinski
He's gone all out.

Kim Commando
He's really going all out. It responds in a cowboy like, masculine tone.

Andrew Babinski
Well, it is Wyoming.

Kim Commando
I know.

Andrew Babinski
I mean, you're not gonna go with, like, some California surfer. It definitely wanted to sound more like Kevin Costner than Keanu Reeves.

Kim Commando
Would you vote for vic?

Andrew Babinski
Uh, no.

Kim Commando
Why?

Andrew Babinski
Well, it's a. It's a hackable software, right? So it is just.

Kim Commando
That's a really good point.

Andrew Babinski
Software.

Kim Commando
That's astute for you.

Andrew Babinski
Thank you. I'm gonna look up what astute means minute the podcast is over, but, you know, it's not. We've had worse things in government, so it's. If it won, it wouldn't be that bad. My family actually founded a town in North Dakota, the Babinskis. And like, now, it used to be on the. On the trail and people would pass through and it was. It was lively, and now it's like 36 people.

Kim Commando
What's the town called?

Andrew Babinski
Warsaw.

Kim Commando
We are learning so much about Andrew.

Andrew Babinski
Currently in the town. There's like a general store and there's a cement. Cementary. That's not what's called.

Kim Commando
Cemetery.

Andrew Babinski
Cemetery.

Kim Commando
Unless they're making cement.

Andrew Babinski
And then this huge mansion, which is owned by the catholic church where if girls get pregnant, they go and hide there and have their babies, but then get sent back to their towns like nothing happens. Sure. They take turns being mayor in Warsaw. Cause it's so little people. They just they're like, tag, you're it.

Kim Commando
They can use Vic.

Andrew Babinski
This isn't any worse than that.

Kim Commando
It's really not. It might be better.

Andrew Babinski
I want to ask a chat bot who I should vote for. They won't tell me. Maybe Vic will actually tell me who to vote for.

Kim Commando
I don't think he would. I think Vic would tell you to make your own decision. Oh, I don't think Vic is programmed to be scummy.

Andrew Babinski
It's a chat bot with a heart.

Kim Commando
No, it's a chatbot who wants to win.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah. Do we have something else?

Kim Commando
You said, we sure do.

Andrew Babinski
What do you have?

Kim Commando
So I was scrolling on my phone and saw this video.

Andrew Babinski
Wait, before you go to the video, how often do you scroll? Be honest.

Kim Commando
I'm not a big scroller. A couple times a day. And I have a limit. Yes, I have a 30 minutes limit on Instagram. That's the only one I scroll. I refuse to download TikTok for self preservation. It's not like the china. You'll get hooked, which is not great.

Andrew Babinski
TikTok is fast.

Kim Commando
Yeah, I can't do it. Yeah, I can't do it. But this came across my timeline. I've seen videos like this before, and every time they get me, and so I thought we had to share it as well.

Andrew Babinski
We go from an AI bot with a heart to a Internet video with a heart.

Kim Commando
Yeah, a little Friday treat. Okay, so this little baby.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, is he getting an implant? Yes.

Kim Commando
Her name is Billy, and she's getting her hearing aids put in. So the auditory specialist doctor. I don't know. Yeah. Is putting these in. And this is really cool, because once she gets them close, she stops talking because she wants to make sure that mom and dad's voice are the first ones that little Billy hears.

Andrew Babinski
Billy. Oh, hi, Bill.

Kim Commando
Bill.

Andrew Babinski
What's that?

Kim Commando
Oh, Billy.

Andrew Babinski
Hi. He is so confused, but he's looking.

Kim Commando
No, it's Billy, a girl.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, it's Billy, a girl. You can't tell.

Kim Commando
So cute, right?

Andrew Babinski
That is very cute.

Kim Commando
Billy, you look over here. Now.

Andrew Babinski
She'S processing all this.

Kim Commando
Totally. Can you imagine her little brain trying.

Andrew Babinski
To figure out, right, never hearing before? It's so sweet.

Kim Commando
I know. I figured we needed something happy after all of this.

Andrew Babinski
This is a great way to say happy Father's Day to everyone.

Kim Commando
Oh, that's true.

Andrew Babinski
This weekend is Father's Day.

Kim Commando
Father's Day, fathers. Happy Father's Day. Andrew, you truly are a great dad.

Andrew Babinski
I know.

Kim Commando
Happy Father's Day.

Andrew Babinski
I appreciate it. Thank you.

Kim Commando
And a humble man.

Andrew Babinski
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