Primary Topic
This episode explores the lengths and costs one might endure to significantly extend lifespan and improve overall health, specifically through high-tech, data-driven personal health management.
Episode Summary
Main Takeaways
- Life Extension Through Tech: Significant financial investments in health can potentially extend life.
- Data-Driven Health Optimization: Utilizing precise biometric data to tailor health interventions.
- Accessibility of Health Innovations: Advanced health practices are expensive but simpler, effective measures are accessible to everyone.
- Potential Future of Health Tech: As technology advances, more effective health solutions may become mainstream.
- Ethical and Social Implications: The conversation explores the societal impact and ethical considerations of using technology for life extension.
Episode Chapters
1: Introduction to Life Extension
Kim introduces the concept of life extension through high-tech health management, discussing with Brian Johnson his motivations and the technologies he uses. Brian Johnson: "I embarked upon this as a rejuvenation athlete to fundamentally change my life direction."
2: Daily Regime and Lifestyle Choices
Details of Johnson's daily health routines and the scientific rationale behind them, including diet, exercise, and sleep. Brian Johnson: "My daily regimen is basically the most scientifically accurate approach on how to go about longevity."
3: Broader Implications and Accessibility
Discussion on how these health technologies could be adapted for broader public use and their implications for society. Brian Johnson: "You don't need to spend $2 million; there are low-cost rules that can provide substantial health benefits."
Actionable Advice
- Regular Exercise: Aim for physical activity consistent with your ability; even minimal exercise is beneficial.
- Balanced Diet: Incorporate a diet rich in vegetables and low in processed foods.
- Routine Sleep Schedule: Prioritize sleep for overall health; consistency is key.
- Regular Health Check-ups: Monitor health through regular professional evaluations.
- Mindfulness and Mental Health: Engage in activities that reduce stress and improve mental well-being.
About This Episode
Don't die. That’s 46-year-old Bryan Johnson’s main goal in life. Bryan made $400 million when he sold his credit card processing company to eBay. Today, he lives in Los Angeles as a self-proclaimed "rejuvenation athlete" and spends his time and money trying to turn back the clock.
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Transcript
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Hey, it's Kim Commando today, your daily podcast to keep you up to date with all things digital and beyond. And I'd love to have you be a part of our podcast. You can make an appointment to speak with me. Just head over to commando.com. and on the top right, there's a button that says email, Kim. Fill that out, and that's it. I always like to kick things off with something fun and interesting. And have you heard about magnet fishing? I don't know where I've been, but I guess it's a big thing on the Internet. A lot of folks are just going magnet fishing, then posting their results up on social as well as YouTube. What you do is you get these high powered magnets, and then you toss them into bodies of water, and then you just reel them back in to see what you can find. Well, James Cain and Barbie Astina, a couple from Queens, New York, they decided to go magnet fishing. And imagine their surprise. What? The magnet latched onto something super heavy. They hauled it up, and it was a massive safe. Oh, my God. The two managed to crack it open. They found themselves staring at $100,000. Yes, $100,000. It was all wet and soggy, but still went magnet fishing. They pulled up a safe with 100 grand on the inside. Whoa. Let me tell you something. Speaking of magnets, I dated a magnet once. He was very, very attractive. Oh, yes, that was a bad one. And on that happy note, welcome, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Kim Commando, America's beloved digital goddess, here with you once again, you're about ready to get more tech smarts, because every single thing now is a tech thing, right? Oh, my gosh. Now you can find my award winning show in over 420 top stations across the United States. And of course, we're streaming in your favorite radio app. Just search for my last name, commando. Every single day, I go to at least, I'm telling you, at least 35 different websites to make sure that we're both up to date on what's going on in the tech world. And here are the top five things you need to know that's happening right now. And we're going to start with Donald Trump. We're not going to talk about the candidate. We're not going to talk about his politics. Instead, I want to talk to you about Donald Trump deepfakes, how to spot them, and how not to be taken by them. And when I say taken, I mean cheated out of your money by contributing to Trump or anyone else. Because let me tell you, the world is just awash in a tidal wave of Trump deep fakes shared on social media to wallop you. Emotionally, that's what they want. Emotionally, they're going to, they want you to be angry, they want you to be sad, they want you to be happy, they want you to be scared. You name it all in the hope that you're going to hit that big old share button. You're going to get money or both. So here's the deal. Before you contribute to any campaign, I want you to be really 100% certain that you're contributing to the real thing. Never donate using a link that you get in an email. The only place that I want you to donate is that the official website of the candidate of your choosing. And yes, there are deep fakes of Biden flowing out there, too, but it just seems to like to have more Trump deep fakes right now. Moving on to number two. Let me tell you, if you buy a Tesla truck, you better really, really love it. And here's why, is if you ever buy one, I want you to study the sales contract carefully, because buried deep in the legalese is wording that if you buy the truck, you're stuck with it for at least a year. You cannot trade it in, you cannot sell it. And if you do this anyway, you're agreeing to pay Tesla $50,000 in damages. Tesla seems to worry that unhappy customers are going to sell the trucks with low mileage, and then, yes, hurt the truck sales. So if you're buying one, be sure that you really, really want it. Wait. You better love it, because you and that truck are together, whether you like it or not, for at least a year. Moving on to number three. Okay. Even though summer is not yet officially here, many parts of the nation are under the excessive heat warnings. Here in Phoenix, where I live, oh, my gosh, we're bracing for 113 degrees, which brings me to parents, kids and cars. You see, every year, we lose about 37 young children to car heat related deaths. And some of these parents are now trying to place the blame for their neglect on the car's manufacturer. Yes, you heard me right. Forgetting that a baby is in the backseat of a hot car is negligence, pure and simple. The danger is so obvious that it should be criminal. Summer temperatures inside locked cars can easily reach 150 degrees. So car makers are working hard to provide tech and alarm systems to let you know when you've left someone behind. Still, if you leave your baby in a hot car, tech or not, alarm or not, it's not the car manufacturer's fault. The only one to blame is you. So pay attention. Moving on to number four, let's talk about our credit cards. We've become so used to paying for things by simply tapping our phones or credit cards to some device at the checkout. But credit card fraud is rampant. So, are you ready for the next step in identification? You better smile. That's right. You see, biometric payment schemes have been tried and rejected. You know, no one wants to provide a fingerprint at checkout. So with Mastercard, JPMorgan Chase and other credit card companies on board, the next level in fighting fraud is your face. They say it's the ultimate form of biometric identification, short of a blood test. So the banks believe that facial recognition is not invasive. I mean, after all, we carry our faces around with us out in the open everywhere we go. We're being recorded everywhere. So raising a privacy issue about this is going to be really, really hard. So the ones most open to facial recognition, well, it's who you might expect. The Gen Z ers, millennials, will come along next, then the gen Xers, and then the boomers will be slower. But of course, with inflation as rampant as it is, facial id or not, at checkout, it still feels like giving blood. Whoa. I know. Finally, this coming in at number five. Do you want to sell a car online? I want you to be super careful. Facebook Marketplace is just crawling with scammers, and they're getting fabulous at just fooling you. This story from Emmanuel Russo in Beaufort, Georgia, about an hour outside Atlanta. Now, he thought he had a great deal lined up for his Ford Mustang Mach E. The buyer seemed legit, and they agreed to meet in a parking lot, public place. The buyer handed Russo a check for $26,900. Russo said, the check looks real. It feels real. Everything looks real about it. He sold the car and the buyers just drove off. Right. Well, the next day, he took the check to the bank. Well, you can probably guess because I'm talking about this. And they told him the paper's real. Everything is real, but it's not a real account. Now, I've seen a picture of the check, and let me tell you, it looks real. It even has that hologram sticker. I mean, but you have to remember, scammers can easily get these fake checks on the dark web. Luckily, a few days later, police were able to track down Russ's car, and they were able to make an arrest. So here's the thing. Fake checks are getting super easy to buy and make. There are marketplaces where people can buy absolutely legit ones. So if you're gonna sell your car online, make sure that the person who buys it goes to the bank where you can cash the check together if they don't wanna do that.
Brian Johnson
Okay.
Kim Commando
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Brian Johnson
It was a result of some thought experiments I did, and I like thought experiments because they helped me. They show a mirror of what the most common thoughts are of one's time and place and allows you to transfer, to travel in time. Okay, so here's the first thought experiment. Imagine that you're able to whisper in the ears of people who live in the year 1870, and you say to them, hey, just a heads up. There are these new ideas about these microscopic objects that are the source of infection. They're called germs. And if doctors wash their hands between surgeries, if they clean their instruments, if they wash their hands again before, you know, between delivering babies, that. That may reduce the death rate dramatically in this situation. Now, if you're in the 1870s, if your. Your common response is going to be, that's nuts, you're telling me some invisible thing is causing death, and we can't see it? So it's just like, this is. Is this like some sort of, you know, otherworldly thing? And so this is an example where the future is always present, and it smashes itself up against the rocks of our current thinking. And that's what blueprint is. Blueprint is from the future, and it smashes up against the current norms. And so the kinds of things you guys were observing ahead of time is exactly the predicted response.
Kim Commando
Well, you know, that's an. It's an interesting analogy, because I thoroughly believe that. I mean, think about. I still can't believe that people would say that when. When you smoked a cigarette, it would coat your throat, right?
Evan
Eight out of ten doctors agree. Go with filtered cigarettes.
Kim Commando
Yes. And then, you know, and then, of course, we all know what happened after that. So. So take us, uh. Take us through your typical day, Brian.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, so I'll just. To complete this thought experiment and what you said, and then I'll go through my day. So, to complete that exercise, if we imagine that the 25th century is whispering in our ears, and they say, psst, what would they tell us? And this is the entirety of my project. I think they would say, don't die. That after 4.5 billion years on this planet, we are now baby steps away from superintelligence. Now, when we have superintelligence, in a decade or so, it's going to be a billion times smarter than us, a level of intelligence that is unimaginable to us. It's possible that with the superintelligence, we will be able to solve aging, and we may be able to live for a duration of time, and with the level of wellness that is, again, unimaginable to us. And so the observation is, in the year 2024, the future is present. The question is, can we see it? And so I, in conjunction with blueprint, I say, don't die. Don't die individually, don't kill each other, don't kill the planet, and align AI with don't die. It is the only thing on humanity's to do list.
Kim Commando
Wow.
Evan
I don't know if we're going to be able to check that box, but like Kim said, what are you doing on a daily basis so you don't die?
Brian Johnson
I do about 100 things in a given day, and I try to make them invisible to me because I try to make it just part of my norms. And so the unique thing we did is we looked at every single scientific publication ever done on health span lifespan. We then graded the evidence of each of those things, and then we did the power laws, and we said, where is the best evidence for the best health span lifespan extension? And then we implemented every single one of those things. Well, not everyone. We implemented the power laws in me, and then I became the most biologically measured person in human history. And so my daily regimen is basically the most scientifically accurate approach on how to approach, how to go about longevity. And health span. And so, for example, I go to bed about 830 every night. Well, that's not true. I go to bed at exactly 830 every night, and it's very precise. And sleep is my number one life priority. I demonstrated eight months of perfect sleep using a wearable. It was the first time, I think, in human history where someone demonstrated that level of sleep consistency. And I wanted to show that it could be done. And then I wake up around 435. By 30, I wake up naturally. And then I'll do a 10,000 lux light in my eyes to get a few minutes of light. I'll weigh myself on my scale to get body composition data. I'll take my inner ear temperature. I measure that very closely. My inner. My body temp in the morning is around 94.9951. So I'm about three, three degrees fahrenheit lower than what I was before doing blueprint. And then I. I'll go downstairs, I'll do some hrv therapy, which is like your, your nervous system therapy. I just. Little thing on my ear that has electrical current. And then I'll work out for an hour, and then I'll eat a few pounds of vegetables for breakfast. I'll do a few more therapies. I'll work for a couple hours. I have a few doctor's appointments, and in the afternoon, where I'll do various measurements, and then I have a nighttime protocol. And so basically, I have like two or three full time jobs. I'm building various companies, and I'm doing this. So it's a lot of work, and I have an entire team helping me do this. But the thing is, I guess it's important to say is you don't need to spend $2 million and you don't need to do my lifestyle. I can give you five simple rules that are low cost that you can do to get the majority the benefits. But you definitely do not need to be Brian Johnson to achieve these benefits. You can do them in a low cost fashion.
Evan
So what are those five things?
Brian Johnson
There's five power laws. One is don't smoke. Number two is 6 hours a week of exercise. But even if you can't do 6 hours, even, you know, 1 hour if you're at zero, is great. Three is eat a blueprint like diet, or you can say a mediterranean like diet. Four is maintain a body mass index of between 18.5 and 22.5. And then number five is a moderate alcohol consumption, or zero. Those five things will get you to a life expectancy of around 92 years old. And then, of course, it also is helpful if you can try to avoid bad things. So try to avoid, you know, junk food. Try to avoid other things that would otherwise cause damage to your body. But the basics really are within reach of everyone. And then, as I mentioned before, making sleep your number one life priority. Like, literally nothing's more important than sleep, because everything else is a consequence of your sleep. Evan.
Evan
Well, this is a serious question. It may. May seem childish, but it's serious. In researching for this interview multiple times in multiple different sources, it talked about that you want to make sure that you don't age your penis and your rectum, and it. It focused on that. Is that something that you put out there? Is that something that's important for all of us?
Kim Commando
Why.
Evan
Why would all these articles focus on those two parts?
Brian Johnson
Yeah, I mean, old rectums get cancer, Evan.
Evan
Okay, so that's this. That's the. That's why you're focusing on the rect?
Brian Johnson
Yeah. And the penis is, you know, like, it's a. Sexual health is a bit of a taboo topic, and I am trying to raise awareness that our sexual health is really important to our psychology. It's representative of our sleep habits and representative of our diet. It basically, you know, if you're not performing well sexually, you have other problems in other places of your life. And so it's a conversation that is needed. It's helpful. I mean, I've had so many of my friends approach me in private and say I'm in a bad spot, and I'm not quite sure how to crawl back out. But when you don't have sexual function, either desire or function, it's pretty devastating psychologically. And so I've really tried to just say, look, I'm playing around. I'm having fun. I'm more than willing to bring up topics that are controversial, that are awkward, but they're really important to all of us. There's, like, few people who don't want a productive, healthy sexual life.
Kim Commando
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We'Re gonna be talking about how airlines are getting really data hungry. You're not gonna believe what they're tracking about you as you're gonna be traveling the summer. And also a new threat at the gas pump you need to be aware of because I don't want you to get taken by that. But have you ever received a text message from a number that you don't recognize instead of saying like, oh my gosh, I don't know who this person is. I wonder why they're calling me. I'll look them up in Google to see if there's a way that I can figure out who it is. Well, this is an insider secret. If you get a text from an unknown number, mobile payment apps like Venmo, cash app, Zell, or PayPal, they can help you put a name to that number. You just paste the number into the app, and then the mystery caller's name just might be unveiled. Now, I tested this out on a number who I knew someone had a Venmo. Well, their name just popped right up. Now, this hack only works if you have an account with a mobile payment app and the sender has to use their real name and number inside the app. Well, what about the flip side? If you don't want to be found out this way, make your account private and in the app settings under friends and social, toggle off phone contacts. Yeah. It's that easy to find somebody's name and number by using Venmo. It's just nuts. So. All right. Christina in Denver, Colorado. Hi there, Christina.
Christina
So, I had a question. I get all of your emails, and they're amazing.
Kim Commando
Thank you.
Christina
But you. You do them so many times a week, and you do your radio station, plus you're married, plus you got kids, plus I'm sure you have just different hobbies and things like that that you do. I don't know how you find time one to do all of that every single week with all of the tips and the tricks and the jokes.
Kim Commando
Yeah, the jokes.
Christina
It's a lot.
Kim Commando
Yes, it's a lot. Yes. I'm glad you like my jokes, because I get people who are like, oh, Kim commando, cut the jokes. I'm like, no, life is too serious. And, oh, my gosh, you know, I.
Christina
Shared the one from today, so the one from today about where the tag on the shirt said, remove the child.
Kim Commando
Yes. That was. You know what? I saw that. I'm like, I mean, do we really need. Okay, okay. So it was. It was a tag on, obviously, a three to four year old shirt. Okay. And underneath in the warnings, it said, remove child before washing. Okay, okay. So, okay. You know what that means, Christina. Okay. Yes. Somebody tried to wash the kid with the shirt on. Otherwise we wouldn't have that warning on there. But, you know, it's. You know what? It's. I really love what I do. I mean, I really do. I'm so specialized, and I have a great team. I really do. As far as here at the studios, I mean, each and every one of our team members, they pull more than their weight. They do. And I know that.
Christina
Right, okay.
Kim Commando
And I know this because, like, last night before I was going to bed, I started, I was like, oh, and I'm one of these things, like, I gotta get it out of my head or else, like, you know, hey, we need to do this tomorrow. We need to do this tomorrow or get this done or whatever. I try not to. I tell people, you don't have to answer me over the weekend, but if I don't get it done or think if I don't, if I don't tell.
Christina
You right now, send it.
Kim Commando
Yes, I'm going to forget. And, of course, we can always schedule emails, which is what I try to do if I'm on email. But I'm finding, like, google chat is just really the easiest thing to do because you don't have to say, like, christina. Hi, christina. How are you? Just wondering, you know, you just get into chat and say, christina, can you take care of this for us? And I think that would be great. But it is definitely a time management because I also get in 20 miles a week as far as running and walking, because, you know, if you don't have your health, what do you have?
Cathay
Right, right.
Kim Commando
And so I try to get out in the morning, which I did this morning. So I was late to a Zoom call at 830, but I thought to myself, I woke up, like, you know what? I need to get my steps in. I need to get my mileage in. I need to do it. And if I'm gonna be late for that client, well, I'm sorry, but that's just the way that it has to be.
Christina
No, I'm the same. I. I do anywhere from, like, 14 to 17,000 steps a day.
Kim Commando
Oh, like, you know. Yes. Yeah. And it has.
Christina
You have to.
Kim Commando
Yeah. Otherwise you just sit on your butt. So we don't want to do that. But then I have. I have a wonderful gal here, Maddie, who helps me pick the content for the news, for the shows and the podcasts and. Yeah. And. And then, you know, Allie helps with the newsletters, and John and Jeremy, they're also involved, and Mark is editing, and Amber's putting it together. And it really is a team effort because then we have Charles and Mackenzie and then Tracy selling, and Kip's selling, and Amber Barnett just keeps the whole thing together. You know what I mean?
Christina
There's so many aspects that you guys do. Like, in one email. Right. It has things that I might like that you've already tried on Amazon for me to buy, or you have a joke, and then you have a trivia, and then you have knowledge about, like, hey, you know, don't be caught on spam, I mean, there's so many aspects in every email, but it's just like, how does she do it?
Kim Commando
Well, but that's because, you know, as I say, every single thing is a tech thing, right? I mean, everything that we touch right now. And then when I'm done with my day, I do make a conscious effort to give dedicated time to my family. And so. And if somebody's texting at the dinner table, I'm like, you better put that down right now. You know, because that is just not happening in my world. And then I'm also in charge of the family. I mean, the family. Because when my mother passed away, she said, you're the matriarch. I'm like, no, I'm not. She's like, yes, you are. Okay. I'm like, so now I've got additional responsibilities. But I'll tell you, I wouldn't have it any other way. Cause, like, people are like saying to me, you know, you know, why do you, why are you still doing this? You can go retire. You can go live in Maui if you want, but I don't want to, you know, I want to be, you.
Christina
Know that we don't want you to either.
Kim Commando
Well, thank you.
Christina
It's great.
Kim Commando
Well, I want to be Martha Stewart in a bikini on the COVID of Vogue magazine when I'm 84 years old. I just don't want to be Martha Stewart in jail. Okay. That's it, right?
Christina
Yeah. No, don't go.
Kim Commando
But I want to do that. But, you know, I appreciate your call today because, you know, it's nice to get an acknowledgement of everything that we put together. But I will tell you, it's not just me. If it was just me, we couldn't be doing all this, but it's truly being able to identify the right people for the job. And we do have openings now, so if there's anybody listening right now and you're like, hey, you know, I want to be in Phoenix. I love Phoenix. Or you don't know anything about Phoenix, is that we are hiring. We need some folks to help with the newsletters. We need people to work in the video department, audio departments and marketing and sales. And so if there's. If you have a specific talent and you'd love to work with just a fabulous group of people, a wonderful group of people, then I think that this would be the place I'm going to ask Wayne to chime in. Wayne. Wayne is one of our tech directors. Wayne, no pressure. Do you like working here? I love it. Best place ever. This is probably the best job I've ever had. Okay, see, so that's what I'm saying. Not just me. And Wayne just did not tell me that because he's an employee. I know Wayne. Wayne would not do that. Never, never. Wouldn't let anybody. So you're looking for a job? Head over to commando.com careers. Christine, again, thank you for your call. All right. The most invasive thing that can happen the next time you're on a plane is not the person in front of you reclining. It's data gathering. You may not realize that airlines are collecting and tracking your data. Your booking details, your name, your email, your phone number and passport are a given, as is the weight of your bag and maybe even how much you weigh, depending on the airline. Now, if you use the onboard wi fi. Yeah. The sites you visit, what you search for, the apps you use, and more is being monitored. Other things airlines are collecting on you, what you drink or eat and when your beverage is empty, our flight history complaints to see if you're a good passenger or not. What movies you like to watch for in flight entertainment. So why are they so focused on flyer data? Ah, you know, it's all about the cold, hard cash. Yes. It's just another way that this company, any company, will repackage your data and then sell it off to advertisers, marketers, or who knows else. All right. Still to come, we have more of your phone calls, as well as a new threat at the gas pump I need to give you a warning about here on the Kim commando show.
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Kim Commando
All righty then, back to the phones we go with Scott in Wilmington, North Carolina. Hi there, Scott.
Scott
Well, a couple weeks ago, you did a segment on cars and privacy and data collection, and I was curious, what year did that really start in earnest? In other words, I tend toward older model cars just for the reason I value my privacy. So I was wondering, like, at what point am I going to have to start really doing research to find vehicles that don't really do this or can the computers be disabled?
Kim Commando
So what bothers you the most about the data tracking that happens in your car?
Scott
Well, just, you know, where I drive, how much I drive, how fast I'm going, how fast I'm not going. You just in general, I'm kind of a privacy nut.
Kim Commando
Yeah. It's so hard to have privacy today, isn't it? Yep, it is, 100%. You know, what's interesting about your call is I don't know if you read in one of the newsletters, I actually put it in there because I thought it was so super interesting is that a Dodge Ram truck from 2008 is one of the hottest sellers right now, and they're still making it the 2008 model. This is not a model. That's from 2024. This is the 2008 model, the Dodge Ram truck specifically because a lot of people don't like this tracking, and it's $34,000. And people are like, I want this truck. Even though it's from 2008, I want that truck. I don't know if you remember the onstar commercials in the early two thousands. Remember those?
Scott
Yep.
Kim Commando
That was, that was kind of the start of a lot of the tech coming into the cars because it had, what, location data, driving habits, vehicle diagnostics and stuff like that. And then when we started hitting, like 2010, then it really, really ramps up and then we get into truly connected cars, as we have now, that are basically just floating computers on wheels. So if there was a car that you were looking for, I'd probably look at something in the, like the two thousands.
Scott
Right now. I drive a 2005 car and my wife has a 2002 car. So I think we're relatively safe.
Kim Commando
Yeah, you're relatively safe. But, you know, there's a website called Privacy for Cars.com. again, that's privacy for cars, and that's privacy. The number four, by the way, cars.com. and what's really neat about this website is that you can type in your year, make and model, and then it tells you what tracking is being done with that car, whether it's driver assistance programs, WiFi, driving patterns, multimedia usage, whatever it may be. And again, that website is privacyforcars.com dot. As a matter of fact, I wrote a whole piece for the Daily Mail about this because I write for USA Today, Fox News and New York Post and all these other places in the Daily Mail. But if you hang on the line, Scott, Amber is going to give you a link to the column that I wrote. It's down there where it says privacyforcars.com. amber and it's a column that I wrote all about how your cars are truly connected computers. And here's what's the data is that's being collected. And then I talk about this privacy for cars website that basically the way that they make money is that they do a factory reset on used cars so that if you buy a used car, you don't get everybody else's data. And in doing this, they put up this kind of like a, I guess you say, little tool where you can, again, put in your make, model and year of your car, and then you can see exactly what is tracking about you. So, Scott, thank you for your call. And hang on. So we can send you out that link. And let's see who's up next. Cathay in Greensboro, North Carolina. Welcome.
Cathay
Yes, I have some relatives and friends that are using these cash making apps where they scan in their receipts from stores, gas pumps, where have you, and supposedly making them money. I know you don't get something for nothing, so I'd like to know what the downside is of this.
Kim Commando
Well, you know, the downsize, the biggest downside is the data collection, right? Because they're collecting what you buy, where you go, how much you spend, your behaviors, then they're sharing your habits with who knows who.
Cathay
Exactly.
Kim Commando
And then they're going to be feeding you ads about who knows who and what knows what they may be. You have access to your phone number, to your email address because this is the way that they can contact you. You can certainly read the privacy policies, but nobody ever does that, right?
Cathay
No.
Kim Commando
And so it's really a matter of personal preference. Are you okay with giving out all your personal information that's going to be sold, or are you not for whatever it may be? Maybe it's $0.10 off a gallon of gas, right? Or maybe it's a couple of dollars back because you spent $20 at Target or whatever it may be, you know? And also take a look at permissions and access that some of these apps have. Of course. Now, if you're going to be scanning a receipt, guess what? It needs access to your camera. It's going to need access to your location, because that's going to be tied to what, where you are when you purchase something. So what you can do is maybe try to avoid oversharing. Look at the app reviews to see if other people are getting spammed or they're getting a lot of weirdo text messages because they suddenly signed up for this. Keep in mind that this is never going to replace a job. This is never going to replace something like an employment. This is maybe a couple of month and maybe some gift cards along the way, or maybe you're going to be saving money, like I mentioned, on gas. Or maybe you get $10 back at the grocery store. So if you're okay with giving up all your information for that, you know, then, then that's the way that it is. But if you're not, then just avoid using them. And thank you for your call. Hey, by the way, if you're ever too shy to just give me a call here on our t mobile unlimited listener line at one eight, you can always drop me your questions on the website. Just head over to commando.com and hit that link that says ask him. When you hit the gas pump, you've got that routine down pat, right? You give the card reader a little wiggle, you check the keypad and you make sure that those tamper evidence seals are not broken. So just when you thought you had it all figured out. Yes, credit card skimmers, those are the scammers. They place the top card readers that capture the data from the card's magnetic strip. Well, now there's something different. Shimmers. These are way harder to detect. They slide right into the card slot. They target the chip on your card, they steal the data from your chip, your card number and the pin. And then the fraudsters clone your card and they just go on this massive shopping spree. So how do you fight back? Well, when you're sliding your credit card into the reader, I want you to pay close attention to how it feels if there's an odd resistance or if your card seems to get stuck. Big red flag. Take a good look at the card reader, too. The best bet is to pay for gas using just a tap of your phone's Apple pay or Google wallet. Hey, do me a solid. Tell three friends about the Kim commando show, because everyone needs more tech smarts and knowledge is power. This program is a copyrighted production of Westar multimedia entertainment and protected by the copyright laws. Any rebroadcast or use of this program for commercial, business, economic or financial purposes without the written permission of Westar multimedia Entertainment is strictly prohibited.
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