This mom goes screen-free

Kim Commando
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Andrew Babinski
What happened?

Kim Commando
And I hate starting a podcast with sad news.

Andrew Babinski
Well, don't tell us good news.

Kim Commando
Chucky cheese. They're pulling the plug on Munch's make believe band.

Andrew Babinski
I don't know. I know those are all words, but I don't know what. Although any of those mean when you put them together.

Kim Commando
It's the animatronic robots, the robots that have terrified children for decades.

Andrew Babinski
That's the reason why you go to Chuck e. Cheese.

Kim Commando
Do you know what the e stands for?

Andrew Babinski
Chuck e. Entertainment?

Kim Commando
Yes.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, look at that. Good guess.

Kim Commando
So they are pulling the plug on the band.

Andrew Babinski
I don't think they've ever worked. Anytime I've ever taken my children, which is very limited amount of times, because we go, we have awful pizza, we play a couple of games, and then we get sick. The band's always been broken.

Kim Commando
Well, 400 locations are gonna be replaced with, they say, digital dance floors.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, so you just. Kids run upstairs. The kids will like that even more. Run up on stage, do some TikTok dances, and get out of there. Okay.

Kim Commando
Oh, yeah. You know what? I think I've been to a chuck e. Cheese maybe twice in my life.

Andrew Babinski
Was it birthday parties?

Kim Commando
Yeah, it was just awful. It was just awful. But Barry, my husband, he's got a pile of grandchildren.

Andrew Babinski
You know that he does the gaggle. It's a full gaggle.

Kim Commando
I mean, and every day there's, like, another one that just pops out, and.

Andrew Babinski
They'Re like all girls.

Kim Commando
They are. They are. It's like. I don't know. You know? I don't know. It's just like, every other day, there's.

Andrew Babinski
Like, a new grandchild, and my daughter loves them. She talks about them all the time. Because we went over to a Christmas party, and she's her new friends. And then she invited herself back to your house the following year so she could play with her friends.

Kim Commando
So cute. But you know what? You know, there are a pile of them, but they're all great kids. They're all just great kids. So we had them over for pizza and a movie night. And so I looked at them and said, okay, kids, so what kind of pizza do you want? They're like, we don't really care. You know, what we want. Then Henry's like, oh, pepperoni. He's like, the one boy.

Andrew Babinski
Pepper. I have opinions.

Kim Commando
Yes, I care. It matters. Me. I'm not wearing a dress. Okay. And then I said, what kind of movie you want to watch? And then they all decided, what kind of movie? I don't know. Some frozen thing or something like that. And then I said, okay, well, here's the deal. I'm gonna teach you about democracy, okay? So we're gonna watch, I don't know, the incredibles, okay? And we're only gonna have cheese pizza. And Elle looked at me, and she's like, why is that? I said, this is democracy. The person with the money gets to make all the decisions.

Andrew Babinski
That's a lesson to be learned right there.

Kim Commando
And then Barry's looking at me like, what?

Andrew Babinski
These are grandbabies. You're supposed to spoil them.

Kim Commando
I started laughing and then kind of moved on. But on that happy note, it's Kim Commando today.

Andrew Babinski
Hi.

Kim Commando
Hi. I'm Kim Commando, America's beloved digital goddess. I have to throw that in there.

Andrew Babinski
Why not?

Kim Commando
Because the trademark.

Andrew Babinski
A little branding.

Kim Commando
Exactly. And this is not the Kim commando show.

Andrew Babinski
Nope.

Kim Commando
Okay. For the Kim commando show, you can find it on your local radio station. Cause we're on, I don't know, 425 stations. And we have a 98% footprint across the United States.

Andrew Babinski
Pretty good chance you'll be able to find the ship.

Kim Commando
Exactly. And you can also find it on Apple and as well as Spotify commercial free. But came to be out of today's little bit different. Cause, you know, people ask me that all the time. All the time. And I just, you know, we just talk.

Andrew Babinski
I was driving around town yesterday. Someone in a skywriter wrote in the sky, hey, Kim, quick question. What's the difference between the Kim commando show and Kim Commando today?

Kim Commando
I told you that all the time. They're asking you everywhere I go. Everywhere I go. Well, we get to have some fun here, because, after all, you don't. You're not on the show.

Andrew Babinski
No. Not allowed to be. No.

Kim Commando
I mean, Andrew Babinski.

Andrew Babinski
Yes.

Kim Commando
You know, are you really? Irish.

Andrew Babinski
Very super Irish.

Kim Commando
I think that Babinski is the one.

Andrew Babinski
It's very mick. Babinski is what I used to be.

Kim Commando
Oh, Babinski.

Andrew Babinski
When my family came over on the boat, they just dropped the o. No polish.

Kim Commando
I knew that.

Andrew Babinski
Look at his nose. That's polish.

Kim Commando
Do you like pierogies?

Andrew Babinski
I think I've had it one time in my entire life. I can't even recall if I like it or not.

Kim Commando
Oh, Milly's pierogies from Boston. You gotta have them shipped in when you eat those. Well, I'll have, like, a taste.

Andrew Babinski
Okay. I was gonna say, I didn't know they made pierogies stuffed with tuna. Kelp. Kelp.

Kim Commando
It's kale.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, yeah.

Kim Commando
You dope. What do you have?

Andrew Babinski
Coming up, we have a story of an art installation in New York that went horribly wrong because people are awful.

Kim Commando
Really? In New York?

Andrew Babinski
Yes. It's not just. It's globally. People are awful. Global.

Kim Commando
Oh, I see.

Andrew Babinski
They were awful in Dublin, Ireland as well.

Kim Commando
Stephanie Liberty is going to be joining us, and she is my editor at the Daily Mail. And, you know, when we are, you know, talking about stories and things like that, she has an interesting story to tell us.

Andrew Babinski
Okay.

Kim Commando
It's just fascinating. I'm not going to say anything more about it. And then later on now, if you're listening to the audio version of this podcast, just know that we do play some videos, and we will try to explain to you what is happening in the videos. But if you ever want to see the videos, that's where you have to go to, where the videos are shown.

Andrew Babinski
And that would be on YouTube.com kimcommando.

Kim Commando
Whoa. Yes. Yes. All right. Oh, wait, one more thing. Winfromkim.com.

Andrew Babinski
That's it. We're giving away one more thing, win, from Kim, a website.

Kim Commando
We're giving away a brand new iPhone 15.

Andrew Babinski
Can I. Before you go into the five things, what? Can I complain to you for a second?

Kim Commando
About what?

Andrew Babinski
On Monday, we talked about the new chat GPT.

Kim Commando
Yes.

Andrew Babinski
Chat GPT. Four.

Kim Commando
Oh, yes.

Andrew Babinski
Which is dumb. I don't understand it. I don't know why they did it. It's dumb. But you said it was free.

Kim Commando
Yes.

Andrew Babinski
I went over to my normal chat GPT bookmark, and it says 3.5 in the upper corner. Then there's a little arrow. So I click on the arrow. Oh, there's four. Oh, $20 a month.

Kim Commando
Oh, are they charging? Yes, it says free for everyone.

Andrew Babinski
It is not free.

Kim Commando
Is it free in the app?

Andrew Babinski
That may be but on the website, they wanted my money if I wanted to use 40.

Kim Commando
Oh, it must be in the app that's free. Cause they say it's free to use.

Andrew Babinski
And everybody, I wrote them a letter and I said, I saw on the Kim command Today podcast, not the radio show. Those are different. If you have any questions, please ask that it was free and it's not. And I was so aggravated.

Kim Commando
See that? See, because we have a corporate account, and so we do pay for it.

Andrew Babinski
So you thought it was free because you already were paying for it?

Kim Commando
No, no, no. Because, no, I read a press release. It said it was free.

Andrew Babinski
Okay?

Kim Commando
So it must be free through the app.

Andrew Babinski
Okay, I'll have to try it that way.

Kim Commando
Speaking of this, top five things you need to know about tech that's happening right now. And we're going to start with OpenAI. Yeah, I mean, you just have to.

Andrew Babinski
It's cool.

Kim Commando
I mean, it is incredible. Everybody was talking about, we were talking about here on the show, too, like, oh, it's going to be a new type of surge. No, no, no, no. This is. It is a life changer.

Andrew Babinski
It's the most human artificial intelligence that I've ever seen, really? Of all the platforms that we've been using over the last couple of years, that the things they're doing with the new chat GPT, it's so humid.

Kim Commando
I mean, it's amazing, but it's also pretty dangerous, isn't it?

Andrew Babinski
Yeah.

Kim Commando
Kind of alarming, right? A little shocking.

Andrew Babinski
I did. I used it, actually, today. I was writing a script for a commercial, and I didn't like the verbiage, and I used one of your tips that you'd given me to prompt. Chat GPT with what you want it.

Kim Commando
To be like, be a copy editor expert.

Andrew Babinski
I saw. I said, chat GPT, I need you to think like a marketer. And it responds with, all right, cool, I'm ready to go. Let's sell something. What project are we working on? It was so cool.

Kim Commando
It's actually like you have a person, right?

Andrew Babinski
And I think that's their goal.

Kim Commando
Yeah, it is. Did you see the video with the dog?

Andrew Babinski
Mm hmm.

Kim Commando
Well, here, just in case you haven't.

Andrew Babinski
I want to introduce you to somebody.

Kim Commando
Well, hello there, cutie. What's your name? Little fluff ball?

Bowser
This is Bowser.

Kim Commando
Well, hello, Bowser.

Bowser
Aren't you just the most.

Kim Commando
Now, in case you're listening, the guy talking has his phone up, and he's taking doing like, a FaceTime call, showing.

Andrew Babinski
Her the dog and chat GPT recognizes it's a dog calls this serious business for bowser, recognizes that the dog has a toy, recognizes that the dog is cute. Now, what if the dog wasn't cute? What if it was, like, some sort of hairless cat? Would the chapter you be like, oh, that's an interesting looking animal.

Kim Commando
Okay. It's like, if you see an ugly baby.

Andrew Babinski
Mm hmm.

Kim Commando
You don't say that the baby's ugly.

Andrew Babinski
No, you just say it looks like a father. That's what you normally say.

Kim Commando
You know, it reminds me of when Ian was going to school, elementary school. One of the moms just had a brand new baby. And I looked at the baby, and I said. I said, okay. I mean, like, the baby's like, you know, like a week old. Oh, the baby's beautiful. She's like, no, she's not. She's ugly. And I said, no, your baby is really beautiful.

Andrew Babinski
Was it ugly?

Kim Commando
No.

Andrew Babinski
Oh.

Kim Commando
And I said. I said, no, the baby's beautiful. She's like, she looks me. She goes, no, you don't need to say the baby's beautiful, because I am the baby's mother. The baby is ugly.

Andrew Babinski
Why so harsh to your own child?

Kim Commando
And I said, no, the baby's beautiful. And she said, what? She makes up and looks? She sleeps all night, so I guess she'll be okay. I was like, oh, my gosh, it's so awful.

Andrew Babinski
What a bad person.

Kim Commando
The web is dead. I mean, I've been saying this forever, and you keep saying, well, I'm gonna go to WebMD.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah.

Kim Commando
Okay. Are you going to Webmd? No, no, the web is dead.

Andrew Babinski
Now, when. What is your prediction on when it'll be officially dead? When there's going to be news articles of websites closing businesses, no longer making money because they can't operate online.

Kim Commando
It's going to happen within six months.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, that's fast.

Kim Commando
I mean, it's gone. It's dead. And think about everything that goes along with it. Search engine optimization, web marketing companies.

Andrew Babinski
Correct.

Kim Commando
All the apps that enable websites, WordPress, people that have made their career with Google Analytics. I mean, it's very, very far reaching. I mean, you know, and I was having a conversation with Ian yesterday about this, and he said, you know, well, you know, because he's saying, like, you know, maybe I should get a master's or, you know, because he's thinking still about, like, law school and all this other stuff. And I said, what would you get a masters in? He said, well, maybe an MBA. I said, dead.

Andrew Babinski
What? Why is an MBA dead?

Kim Commando
Dead? Okay. You think that you're going to be learning business administration. You don't think that all this AI is going to change that? I mean, if you are in the market for a higher education, you just have to look at AI just to figure out AI.

Andrew Babinski
But just a couple of weeks ago, I told you that's where I'm going to have my kids focus on AI. And you said, well, by the time they're older, they're going to be dead.

Kim Commando
No, no, there's good. No, AI is going to be something tremendously different.

Andrew Babinski
Okay?

Kim Commando
I mean, what we see now, think about what we just saw with that dog and the video that we're going to play at the end. Okay? Think as if that was the iPhone in 2007 and what we have today.

Andrew Babinski
Correct. And that's not a big gap. That's just about 1317 years or whatever.

Kim Commando
So when your kids are in the.

Andrew Babinski
Workplace, it's all going to be different.

Kim Commando
Okay? And then Google says, oh, this is item number two. Google says, okay, we have our big AI announcement.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah, they went a day later.

Kim Commando
Yes, Gemini 1.5 pro. There's now ways that in your email, Gmail is a big one. And of course they had some other AI stuff going on. But what's going to affect us immediately is Gmail, is that now they're going to summarize all your email. You can ask Gemini. You know, I had, I got three bids for my roof. And can you tell me the differences between the three? Just look at my attachments. So this is like some practical use right now.

Andrew Babinski
But now is the AI going to be capturing all of that personal information?

Kim Commando
Yes.

Andrew Babinski
And then using it into a database?

Kim Commando
Yes.

Andrew Babinski
Okay.

Kim Commando
I mean, so Google is now struggling. Google is sitting there saying, holy crap. I mean, think about ten years ago, would we have ever said, like, oh, what's going to replace Google? It's never going to happen. People say, never.

Andrew Babinski
I don't know. See, I agree that a lot of people said that, but when we said that about, like, MySpace, when MySpace sold for what, $10 billion or whatever it was, and we're like, well, this is the biggest social media ever. Nothing replaced it. Then Facebook came along. Well, now this is the big. And then Instagram came along. So I think we're learning that these big or bigger than big companies, even Apple, Apple's struggling right now with sales.

Kim Commando
Apple must be crapping in their pants right now.

Andrew Babinski
So I think we do realize that these things are kind of flash in the pans. You get about 15 to 20 years and then you're done.

Kim Commando
I mean, Apple has their big worldwide developers conference in about three weeks and that's when they always announce all the new software, all the new hardware. What do you think Tim Cook is doing right now?

Andrew Babinski
Trying to figure out how to sell. Make sure every part of the presentation includes AI.

Kim Commando
Yes. I think in Google's. I saw the number, Google's AI presentation yesterday, they mentioned AI like, I don't know, like 155 times or something like that.

Andrew Babinski
So what about all the add ons that Google has? Is chat GPT going to try and grow and have all those add ons as well?

Kim Commando
Yep.

Andrew Babinski
Will they separate them like Google does, where it's Google Maps and Google this and Google that? It'll all just be right under the same umbrella of chat GPT?

Kim Commando
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
All right.

Kim Commando
And think of all the little websites that are going to go away too. I mean, people that sell things.

Andrew Babinski
But you're building a website.

Kim Commando
Yeah, but it's, uh, it's a necessary thing for right now. Uh, and it's different. It's not going to be your standard website.

Andrew Babinski
Okay.

Kim Commando
It's, it looks more like a social media site.

Andrew Babinski
Okay.

Kim Commando
When you see it rolled out, it's, it's with like little nuggets of information. So if it's kind of like what? So kind of like when you're scrolling in TikTok or Instagram or something, that's kind of the, the, the thought process behind it that you'll go here and you can scroll to learn.

Andrew Babinski
It'll look like a feed more than a traditional website.

Kim Commando
Okay, exactly. But meanwhile, back here down at Earth, windows eleven, if you didn't get the big old patch roo, you want to make sure that you do. That came out this past week on Tuesday, as a matter of fact, the other day. That would be yesterday. Okay. You know, I do so much, I lose track of days. I do.

Andrew Babinski
I'm just glad you caught up with yourself.

Kim Commando
It's like, you know, it's because my brain goes 8000 miles an hour. So annoying. So annoying. Anyway, they say that there's a fix that would cause VPN connections to fail if you're on your iPhone. This is item number three and four is that you wanna make sure that you get the latest patch. 17.5. Because Apple and Google got together. K I s s I n g. Yes. In a tree. And like a little baby, they finally got their act together. So that if you're on Android and I'm on Apple and you're trying to track me with an airtag that I'm going to get alerted.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, okay.

Kim Commando
And vice versa. So now they're all working together. So make sure that you get the latest version of Android and iOS.

Andrew Babinski
Are they going to combine? Is this like, are we two years away from a merger where Alphabet buys Apple?

Kim Commando
I don't think that would happen.

Andrew Babinski
I mean, that would be a monopoly for sure. There's. Yeah, they wouldn't allow that for sure.

Kim Commando
And we're just going to kick off the last item, number five, talking about free food.

Andrew Babinski
I love free food.

Kim Commando
Wendy's is now, every Wednesday is that you can get a free six piece pack of chicken nuggets.

Andrew Babinski
What do you have to do to get it?

Kim Commando
You have to become a Wendy's rewards member.

Andrew Babinski
Okay.

Kim Commando
And then make any purchase on the mobile app on Wednesdays. And then you get a free six piece gross chicken nugget.

Andrew Babinski
Why are you bringing this up as the number five item?

Kim Commando
Because I know that people would really like to have that.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, okay.

Kim Commando
Okay. And it's not just Wendy's on Wednesdays. McDonald's has free fries Friday. Okay, I want you to say that three times fast.

Andrew Babinski
Free fries Friday. Free fries Friday. Free fries Friday.

Kim Commando
That was really good.

Andrew Babinski
Well, I'm a broadcaster.

Kim Commando
Free fries. Fries.

Andrew Babinski
But here's. Okay, here's my question. Are all of these. They doing this? They're giving you free fries. They got to get something in return. And what they want is they want you to sign up for the app so they can have all your data.

Kim Commando
Exactly.

Andrew Babinski
And then are they going to do what 23 andme did is bundle all that data together and sell it to China for $10 billion? Okay.

Kim Commando
Right.

Andrew Babinski
So your wendy's chicken nuggets and your free fries.

Kim Commando
Okay. But the free fries you have to get on the McDonald's app, you make any $1 purchase and then you get a free medium order of fries. Now, the cheapest item on the Mickey D's menu is a cookie.

Andrew Babinski
Is it a buck?

Kim Commando
Yeah. So you can get a cookie and get free fries right there. That's perfect. Lunch.

Andrew Babinski
Yes, exactly. It's a balanced diet.

Kim Commando
And finally, there's Dunkin donuts. If you download the Dunkin's rewards app, you get a free medium drink with any.

Andrew Babinski
All right. What, no day? No, like Dunkin Tuesdays or Saturday freebies.

Kim Commando
But this is, you know, this is a deal that you donut want to pass.

Andrew Babinski
I didn't know it was coming until the pause. When the pause happened, I knew we were ready for a bad joke.

Kim Commando
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Andrew Babinski
Well, you know what?

Kim Commando
We don't have that option. We should have that option.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah, just put, like, a cash app at the bottom of the screen.

Kim Commando
Yeah, donate.

Andrew Babinski
You can just watch. Don't, don't. Don't push them that hard.

Kim Commando
Why?

Andrew Babinski
Because, you know, which is we want to provide them with the service, and we'll have others pay us through advertising.

Kim Commando
Do you see any advertisers here?

Andrew Babinski
Well, we got to build the audience, and that's why we need them to comment, like and share. So the algorithm thinks we're important, pushes out to more people getting advertisers.

Kim Commando
Oh, you know what? Somebody started on Reddit.

Andrew Babinski
What did they start?

Kim Commando
A subreddit? That's commando.

Andrew Babinski
I didn't know that.

Kim Commando
Yeah, it just happened this past week.

Andrew Babinski
How many pictures of your feeder on there?

Kim Commando
Maybe I should put a picture.

Andrew Babinski
I was like, I can do it by this afternoon if you like.

Kim Commando
Why do you have them? That's weird.

Andrew Babinski
No, I can take them. I'm right in front of you.

Kim Commando
I thought that was, like, a strange thing. That's kind of icky. I mean, we're like brother and sister and you got pictures of my feet.

Andrew Babinski
I don't have any pictures of my feet.

Kim Commando
You're not doing weird crap with that picture of that.

Andrew Babinski
You know, I took. I don't have any. I have the Internet. I actually freeze frame some of the videos to see if you're a man or not.

Kim Commando
That's still. That's still out there. I don't understand that. How can people think that I trans. I mean, what go. What happened?

Andrew Babinski
You just have a deeper voice, that's all. That's all. It's not even that deep.

Kim Commando
I mean, okay, they're cupcakes.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah. They're not watermelons, but they're there and they're real. They are yours.

Kim Commando
They're mine, and I'm owning them.

Andrew Babinski
She's a woman. That was a callback to a guy who wrote in note to Kim saying that he knows that she used to be a man. Yes, because he took screenshots of one of the podcasts and zoomed in on her Adam's apple in her hands.

Kim Commando
I don't have an Adam's apple.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, he was insane.

Kim Commando
Gosh. All right, so you have two lovely children.

Andrew Babinski
Yes. Little six year old wheezy and a ten year old Francis.

Kim Commando
When you were happily married, before, you, you know, weren't. Weren't found. Lovely. Hannah, right?

Andrew Babinski
There's no Hannah. Her name's Jennifer. Thank God. She's not watching today. You say what you want. She's working.

Kim Commando
Excellent. Did she finally get a job? Wait.

Andrew Babinski
A little amount of trouble you get me in. You have no idea. All right, so when I was happily married. You mean when my kids were younger?

Kim Commando
Yes.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah.

Kim Commando
Screen time.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah, yeah. I was. I was pro screen time. I was pro making them one with technology. I thought, it's obviously, it's the future. And, you know, you look at someone who's in their seventies or my in laws. My still. I call my in laws, they'll call me and say, hey, can you come over and install a driver? Can you help me set up my email client? Because they didn't grow up with it. My children are integrated with technology.

Kim Commando
I don't remember the last time I installed a driver.

Andrew Babinski
They had printer problems, and I had to replace the update the drivers so the printer could communicate with their computer that was built in the nineties.

Kim Commando
So the kiddos, how old were they?

Andrew Babinski
Francis was four, probably when I let him start playing games and looking at stuff on an iPad. And then Eloise just wanted to be like her big brother, so it was younger for her, probably two and a half, three, where she could use a tablet and see.

Kim Commando
And I, you know, I. When Ian was small, you know, I. You know, we had the Wii Xbox. So when Ian was about three. That's when I gave him his first smartwatch. Okay, but it wasn't really a smartwatch like we have today.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah.

Kim Commando
It was a watch that made phone calls and it was, like, super expensive. It was like $70 a month. Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
Because, I mean, that's got to be like, what, 18 years ago?

Kim Commando
Yes. Long time ago. And so, but it had three buttons. It had mom, dad and grandma, and that was it.

Andrew Babinski
Right.

Kim Commando
But I felt good that I, that he had that I also, but that.

Andrew Babinski
Was more of a safety and security thing, not a techn, want them to lean on technology thing.

Kim Commando
Well, I, you know, I'll admit, you know, I would pick him up from school and then I'd throw on something on tv for him to watch. I mean, that's a screen, right. I would let him play on his laptop. I mean, because I was still, I mean, I'm working. Got to get things done. Now, our guest on today's chemical matter today is Stacey Libertore. She's the deputy science and technology editor@dailymail.com. Dot now Stacy has made an amazing choice. Now think about this. This is a woman who's in charge of the science and tech section@dailymail.com.

Andrew Babinski
Right. So she's involved in the world.

Kim Commando
Right? She knows tech, but she and her husband have decided no screen time for their little cherub.

Andrew Babinski
All right. They have one child.

Kim Commando
Yes.

Andrew Babinski
Okay, so far.

Kim Commando
So joining us now is Stacey. Hi, Stacy.

Bowser
Hi, Kim.

Kim Commando
How are you? We're great. We're great. So, hey, so when did you decide no screen time?

Bowser
My husband and John and I decided even before our little Amelia was born, we just decided no screen time. I will say that we do let her watch television, but it's limited television and it's usually just educational shows. She does watch about two shows that aren't education related.

Andrew Babinski
What are her go to's? I just want to know.

Bowser
Oh, what is it? She likes Minnie Mouse and she likes the bluey.

Andrew Babinski
Is it Bluey?

Bowser
Teen Titans.

Kim Commando
Oh, wow. That for sure was, there was going to be a bluey.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, blue is so huge.

Kim Commando
You know what? Why didn't we come up with Bluey?

Andrew Babinski
I don't know. We'd be billionaires. We wouldn't be sitting here if we came up with Bluey. That's for sure.

Bowser
We would still be more than she does.

Kim Commando
And so how old is Amelia now?

Bowser
She just turned two in February.

Kim Commando
Okay, now tell us about the plane rides.

Bowser
So we went to visit, my sister lives in Colorado. When we went over Thanksgiving and don't do, you know, no iPad, no smartphones. So we got coloring books, finger puppets, these little busy books that they have with, like, all little, like, ties in them and things like that. And on the way there, she fell asleep instantly. I was like, this is great. You know, we have, you know, a miracle child on our hands, but on the way back, she just would not fall asleep. So she was crying and she didn't want to sit in her seat. And it was probably one of the times, I wish I had a tablet.

Andrew Babinski
Would you, if you had one, would you have handed it to her?

Bowser
No.

Andrew Babinski
No.

Bowser
I know. No, because of my parents, who are sitting in front of us, they both had an iPad.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, she had the opportunity. Okay.

Bowser
Yeah, yeah.

Kim Commando
And so mom or dad, they didn't go like, Stacey, here, just give it to her. Just give it to her.

Andrew Babinski
They weren't crying because they had their eyes.

Bowser
I was just in the middle of.

Andrew Babinski
Like, does she want for tablets? Does she want for screen time?

Bowser
It's interesting because she's never had one yet. She knows, like, to touch the screen. Like, she'll pick up my phone and she'll go like this. And it's probably just from watching my husband and I do it. So, I mean, we don't have iPads in the house, so I think that kind of helps, the fact that she doesn't, you know, yearn for it.

Kim Commando
Yeah, for sure. My husband, Stacy, he has. We've talked about it here already on this podcast today. He just has a pile of grandchildren. He does. I mean, there's like. And every day there's like a new one that just shows up. I mean, I think, you know, there's like, one family has six, another family has twelve. I mean, something like that. Okay. And so Theresa comes over, and Theresa is, I think she's like two ish, two and a half ish. And there's a magazine sitting there, and she starts doing the magazine with her fingers like it's a tablet. And I leaned over, I'm like, Teresa, here, let me show you. And she's like, oh, it turned.

Andrew Babinski
That's cool, too.

Kim Commando
Like, wow. You know, and I guess, you know, you don't. You don't realize what an effect.

Andrew Babinski
No.

Kim Commando
That it might have on it. Um, what we. I'm sure you have, like, mom dates, play dates, you know, dad dates with the kids. Have you noticed how your daughter's different than the other children?

Bowser
Yeah. Um, Amelia, she's very calm. She's a very chill baby. I mean. I mean, I know she's not a baby, but I always call her my baby. No matter where we go, she will just sit there calmly. And, I mean, not that even if she is, you know, energized or anything like that, obviously wouldn't bother me, but she's just so much more chill than a lot of the other kids that I see. And she's so empathetic. It's. She's very in tune to people. I've noticed, Jeff.

Andrew Babinski
And do you think that's a direct cause of not growing up so far with screens?

Bowser
I do, because, for instance, when we go out to dinner, she either has crowns or, like, an Etch a sketch, you know, those 1980s nineties toys. Or my husband and I keep her in the conversation. So I feel like that's actually helped with her development, because she knows how to be in a social setting without having something distract her where she's more involved in the setting.

Kim Commando
And that's always a pet peeve of mine, Stacey, is that when I see parents out with their kids at restaurants and the kids have, like, the headphones on with the tablets in front of their face, I'm like, why didn't you just leave them home?

Andrew Babinski
I mean, you can't sometimes. Because babysitters are expensive.

Kim Commando
Yeah, but, I mean, you're not interacting. You're not teaching them.

Andrew Babinski
No, that's true.

Kim Commando
You know, you're not teaching them, like, bread, meal, water, you know, or BMW.

Andrew Babinski
Teach me bread, meal, water.

Kim Commando
BMW. Oh, bread, meal, water.

Andrew Babinski
We can talk about that after the show.

Kim Commando
You know what? I've been working with him forever, Stacy, that you can only go so far.

Andrew Babinski
I'm almost there. I'm almost there.

Bowser
Almost.

Andrew Babinski
Now, is there a point where you're going to allow her to use a tablet? Use a screen?

Bowser
Yeah, I think when she's about five years old, because I know, like, I'm not. I'm not blind to the fact that this is the way of the world. This is the way of the land. You know, everything's going to be taught with iPads and things like that. So I obviously don't want her to be like, the weird kid in school. Like, oh, my mommy said I can't use it. Do you know what I mean?

Andrew Babinski
Like, well, but she may be introduced to it prior, depending on what kind of schooling you look at. My daughter started pre, pre k, whatever they call that, when she was four. And the minute she walks in the school, there's a tablet. Her reading assignment is on a tablet. Her shapes and colors assignment is on a tablet.

Bowser
Yeah. And we've actually, we would be sending to her like a more Montessori school.

Andrew Babinski
Okay.

Bowser
Where they don't do it in pre.

Andrew Babinski
K, but it's gonna be there. Yeah, you're right. At some point, it's gonna be at.

Bowser
Some point, and that's fine. And that's totally fine. It's just, you know, being, you know, a tech reporter. I've seen, seen countless studies where researchers find that it impacts their brain development. And, you know, I was just going.

Kim Commando
To ask you, I was just going to ask you that. What studies did you base your decision on?

Bowser
There's a study that it changes the shape of the brain between three and five on children who are exposed to screens and such like that. It impacts their visual perceptions, long term memory, their attention spans, empathy, things like that. So, I mean, obviously, I also think that this is all very new. You know, I mean, I'm 40, my husband's 43. You know, we're, as you guys were, older than the Internet, so we didn't grow up with this stuff. So, you know, it's all new. We don't really know the impacts that it's going to have. So these sort of, these studies are starting to trickle out.

Kim Commando
Now, do you think that this is a trend? And let me tell you why. Um, my niece is 36, and she has a. He just turned four. Uh, she's from Southern California. She married a guy in Lafayette, Indiana. Okay. For the first seven years of their marriage, the only thing I heard from her was like, oh, my God, I can't wait to get out of Lafayette, Indiana. You know, like, you know, I'm from Southern California. I'm a, you know, I'm a California girl. Yeah. What am I doing here in Lafayette, Indiana? I mean, I just fell in love with this guy. Okay? Now, when you talk to her, they bought a parcel of land, they're building a house. Little Owen is outside playing with tractors, building, having a garden. She's limiting screen time tremendously. And I just find it fascinating that the juxtaposition pendulum. Yes. How it just went from a to z here. And she's also anti screen time. Do you think that this is a trend now with young mothers and dads?

Bowser
I think it is, and I think it's just becoming, I think a lot of times, a lot of people who are screen free, like my husband and I and her, we're kind of scared to say something because people take it the wrong way. People think we're judging you. If you do use screens, which is totally not the case, or you're like, other people are like, well, you're not the first person to invent no screens. So I do think that there are a lot of parents out there because, I mean, I've seen kids who are given screens constantly, and when they don't have it, I mean, forget it. It's, it's chaos.

Kim Commando
It's like that toy brand, Melissa and Doug. I mean, they, they've made a gazillion. You don't know about Melissa.

Andrew Babinski
I do. I don't buy their products.

Kim Commando
Why?

Andrew Babinski
I don't think they're quality.

Kim Commando
Well, but, you know, toys don't last forever anyway.

Andrew Babinski
No, but I don't. I'm just not a fan.

Kim Commando
Okay. Well, I think that they come up with innovative things for creative thought.

Andrew Babinski
Okay.

Kim Commando
And. Oh, look at that face. You're kidding me.

Andrew Babinski
I think, I think they're highly overpriced. They're cheap.

Kim Commando
Okay. What you do, let me tell you where you buy Melissa and Doug.

Andrew Babinski
Where?

Kim Commando
Okay. You go to Saksoff Fifth avenue.com.

Andrew Babinski
Okay.

Kim Commando
And Melissa and Doug, because I know this, because this pile of grandkids, okay. Is that you, you go to Saks off Fifth Avenue.com, and then they, you go to their toy section, Melissa and Doug, whenever, at any given moment is at least 70% off.

Andrew Babinski
Okay, that's fine, then.

Kim Commando
All right, so how, so what kind of, so aside from crayons and Etcher sketch, are there any big hits for anybody who's watching, listening? They're like, okay, I've got a two year old, and I'm trying to figure out how to get them off the screens.

Bowser
I mean, she doesn't really have electronic toys either, so she's not exposed to a lot of, like, music, you know, sound making toys and things like that. Like, she has a little electric piano that she plays here and there. But I think just trying to limit the electronics and allowing them just to use their own imagination and their own creativity, I think they'll find a lot more enjoyment in that than having a toy or tablet do it for them.

Kim Commando
Yeah, that's a good point. That's an excellent point. So can I have a little shameless self promotion here? I'm not good at that.

Andrew Babinski
Your name's on the building. You can do whatever you want.

Kim Commando
Is that. I write for dailymail.com dot. I love it. It's a huge site. What is the traffic like at Daily Mail?

Bowser
I mean, it's pretty big. Pretty big. Not complaining.

Kim Commando
Yeah, I mean, like, you know, 20 a gazillion Facebook followers.

Andrew Babinski
I'm there every day.

Kim Commando
Are you?

Andrew Babinski
Oh, yeah. First thing I do in the morning.

Kim Commando
You know what I do, too. You know, and, and, but I write for the Daily Mail.

Andrew Babinski
I never see your stuff on the front page.

Kim Commando
Stacey, how do we fix that?

Andrew Babinski
Yeah, how do we fix that?

Bowser
I know a few guys.

Andrew Babinski
Good.

Kim Commando
Okay. And so I. Sorry.

Andrew Babinski
Fred Daley and Mike mail. She's go straight to the top.

Kim Commando
And so if you. But, you know, you can search for commando. But I. So now there's a new weekly feature that we have. It's a question and answer. And, you know, we link. We're going to start linking to it within the newsletters and good stuff like that. And then I write some really fantastic.

Bowser
Stories that you do.

Kim Commando
And so, you know, so you need to make me a regular part of your daily mail.

Andrew Babinski
I will. I will search commando every single morning.

Kim Commando
Hey, Stacey, thanks for being here. You look beautiful.

Bowser
Thanks so much, Kim. Thank you. Thank you so much, Andrew. It was nice meeting you.

Kim Commando
You too.

Andrew Babinski
You know, it also could be the opposite, though. My daughter's six. She's been on a tablet since she was two. She just took a gifted test and she scored a 99 percentile in verbal. And I think that has a lot to do with the right stuff that you put in front of your child. If you are going to give them screen time, ABC mouse number blocks, there is tons of positive educational things.

Kim Commando
But let me tell you something. You talk to Weezy like, I.

Andrew Babinski
It's true.

Kim Commando
I mean, it is true, you know, and at some point, probably whis is going to say to you what Ian said to me when I think he was twelve, said something like, I am not a 40 year old guy, I'm twelve.

Andrew Babinski
Back off.

Kim Commando
Yeah, exactly.

Andrew Babinski
Did I tell you the chaos line? No, she was talking about something and she was like, that situation was chaotic. And the root word of chaotic is chaos. Do you know what chaos means, dad? It's not good.

Kim Commando
You're in trouble.

Andrew Babinski
Six in trouble.

Stacey Libertore
All you want is to meet your security and compliance requirements, but your business technology keeps changing. Cyber threats emerge every day. More regulations apply to you now than ever before and your it resources remain limited. The center for Internet Security can help. At CIS, we work to create a safer world for people, businesses and governments through collaboration and innovation. Using a community driven consensus process. We work with it professionals and volunteers around the world to develop and maintain security best practices. These resources save you time, money and effort wherever you are on your cybersecurity journey. We also work with us state, local, tribal and territorial government organizations to share information with one another so they're stronger together. Join us today in creating confidence in the connected world. Visit cisecurity.org to play your part.

Kim Commando
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Andrew Babinski
It's not fair.

Kim Commando
Why is that not fair?

Andrew Babinski
I like to win stuff. I like free stuff.

Kim Commando
No, you can't win.

Andrew Babinski
Fair enough.

Kim Commando
Winfromkim.com winfromkim.com dot so there was an.

Andrew Babinski
Art installation in New York and in Dublin, Ireland.

Kim Commando
You know what? I saw this. Not in person, obviously. I thought it was. What a great idea. That was just phenomenal.

Andrew Babinski
They opened a portal. It was a portal to connect Dublin, Ireland and New York. And it was a live stream. I mean, it looked like something from a Sci-Fi video, but it was a live streaming video where the participants on either side could interact in real time. They could say hi to each other. And there was some cool moments. There was a proposal when it first opened up.

Kim Commando
Oh, you're kidding.

Andrew Babinski
Nope. And then there was old friends reuniting. They hadn't seen each other in person. Obviously, it's not in person, but they hadn't seen each other in years, and they reunited, and then they closed it down.

Kim Commando
Well, so you have to back up. So it's like a real time FaceTime call.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah. It's made to look like a portal, but it's just a video conferencing. And like I said, it was an art installation on connecting these two. Because you've seen a Sci-Fi movie where it's like a portal to another dimension, right? And people would be able to interact in real time, but people are awful. And so they had to shut it down. They were. It started out. They started flipping each other off, then they started cursing each other out. Then they started mooning each other.

Kim Commando
Oh, gosh.

Andrew Babinski
Then they started flashing each other. And then, remember, this is connecting New York and Dublin, Ireland. Someone gets in front of the portal in Dublin and opens up a huge picture of the World Trade center to show the people in New York.

Kim Commando
Okay?

Andrew Babinski
So they shut it down.

Kim Commando
Okay.

Andrew Babinski
Days in, this experiment was closed. They're trying to figure out a way to reopen it so it will be, you know, not for awful people, but I don't know if there's a way to do it.

Kim Commando
Well, we have the video from the OnlyFans.

Andrew Babinski
Yes. I haven't seen the only fans.

Kim Commando
There she goes.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah. That's how you advertise yourself.

Kim Commando
Yep. Just showing her boobies. Showing her boobies.

Andrew Babinski
And that was one of many people that we got on there and flashed. Now, there was no rules about nudity or profanity or obscenity, but it was.

Kim Commando
But you think that a society.

Andrew Babinski
Decorum.

Kim Commando
Okay.

Andrew Babinski
Yes.

Kim Commando
Let me tell you something. That happens in New York. That crap would never happen in Tokyo.

Andrew Babinski
No, that's true.

Kim Commando
That would never happen in Tokyo.

Andrew Babinski
But that's it. So it's a societal thing. And both sides of Ireland and the US.

Kim Commando
Yes.

Andrew Babinski
So that's what you got to do. You got to move it to Tokyo.

Kim Commando
That's what you should. They'd be standing there bowing.

Andrew Babinski
Yes. They'd be very polite.

Kim Commando
Exactly. You know, I tried Onlyfans for a.

Andrew Babinski
Bit as a customer or a presenter.

Kim Commando
Well, the house was getting too hot, so I turned on the UC. I cracked myself up.

Stacey Libertore
All you want is to meet your security and compliance requirements, but your business technology keeps changing. Cyber threats emerge every day. More regulations apply to you now than ever before, and your it resources remain limited. The center for Internet Security can help. At CIS, we work to create a safer world for people, businesses, and governments through collaboration and innovation. Using a community driven consensus process, we work with it professionals and volunteers around the world to develop and maintain security best practices. These resources save you time, money and effort wherever you are on your cybersecurity journey. We also work with us state, local, tribal, and territorial government organizations to share information with one another so theyre stronger together. Join us today in creating confidence in the connected world. Visit cisecurity.org to play your part.

Kim Commando
Hey, it's Kim Commando. Today. We are so glad that you're here with us because otherwise, well, it would just be me and Andrew. And while I'm very entertaining.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah. So I would just be sitting here getting so entertained by Kim. Thank goodness you're able to partake in the benefits I receive every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

Kim Commando
I'm just so, so generous. So here. Something, isn't it? It's just something.

Andrew Babinski
Something.

Kim Commando
Just a quick reminder. If you want to get the Kim commando show, you can get the show on your local radio station. You can also get it at Apple podcasts and Spotify. And we are in a ratings time. So in case you're wondering why I keep saying push, push, just turn on your local radio for just a little.

Andrew Babinski
While keep radio alive.

Kim Commando
Yes, we need you to do that. So we saw chat GPT four o, so I figured, you know what, I wonder what chat GPT 5.0 is going.

Andrew Babinski
To look like already. We're already working on 5.0.

Kim Commando
So you know who I asked? Who chat GPT four.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, and what did they say?

Kim Commando
Look at us.

Andrew Babinski
That's ridiculous.

Kim Commando
A whole bunch of stuff. More natural conversations. It's going to be even more like talking to a human.

Andrew Babinski
We're going to show a video in a second. We're already seeing that, and it's amazing.

Kim Commando
It's going to have more humor, sarcasm and expressions.

Andrew Babinski
I already see that already. I agree with that.

Kim Commando
More adaptive tones so that if you speak to it professionally, it'll speak professionally back. So it's gonna be more contextual.

Andrew Babinski
Okay. No, it's audience, basically.

Kim Commando
Yes. Gonna have more awareness, long term memory. So it's going to remember what you shared with it over previous sessions in the past.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, that would be interesting, right? If you type something in and it's like, hey, if you remember back in December, you already asked this and this is the answer I gave you. Are we looking for something different? That would be kind of cool.

Kim Commando
Great. Now you just told me. I'm like, I'm getting old. Hate when that happens. It's like, you know, it happens to Barry a lot.

Andrew Babinski
We're not gonna go there.

Kim Commando
I know.

Andrew Babinski
You don't have to.

Kim Commando
Well, no, I'm not saying it's, you know, I help him. It's not like I just like, you're so kind. I just, you know what I did? I put airtags on everything.

Andrew Babinski
What are the things that he loses that he needs airtags on? I mean, I have one in my wallet.

Kim Commando
Yeah, he's got a wallet.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah.

Kim Commando
Keys, keys, briefcases, luggage in his car.

Andrew Babinski
He's lost his car. That may be an issue.

Kim Commando
You know, his pants. Just kidding about the pants. Not really. Let's see, personal interactions. It says multimodal capabilities. Multi modal. What do you think? Multimodal capabilities?

Andrew Babinski
I have no idea. Is that it's going to be everywhere. Like, it'll be in your toaster and it'll be in your fridge and it'll.

Kim Commando
Be actually, you know what? You just wait. It's coming to that, too.

Andrew Babinski
But is that what that multimodal means?

Kim Commando
No, it says it's, it's going to have more integration of images, audio and video.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, okay.

Kim Commando
So it's going to generate video content and video outputs based on textual text description.

Andrew Babinski
It doesn't already do that.

Kim Commando
Well, if you say, like, how does the toaster work?

Andrew Babinski
Okay.

Kim Commando
It's gonna say, oh, here, let me show you a video.

Andrew Babinski
Gotcha. But it's good. Then create it instead of find it.

Kim Commando
YouTube.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah.

Kim Commando
How to's right.

Andrew Babinski
You were so dooming the rest of the Internet right now.

Kim Commando
No, I'm just being. I'm just being honest. I mean, you know, if you start thinking, you have to think out of the box on this. You have to. Otherwise you're just going to get left behind.

Andrew Babinski
Is there any way it fails?

Kim Commando
Yeah, because it hallucinates. It gets the. Gets wrong information.

Andrew Babinski
So if it, if it gains a reputation, if we just can't trust it, even though it does all this amazing stuff, then it would fail.

Kim Commando
It's going to be interesting to see how it handles politics.

Andrew Babinski
It shouldn't. It really shouldn't.

Kim Commando
Could you imagine it right now?

Andrew Babinski
No. Because you ask Chapuchet, at least a free one right now. It's like, well, I'm. I'm not up to date enough on that information. I can't tell you who to vote for, who's running, but at some point it will be up to date.

Kim Commando
I still like when I asked Gemini for a Bible verse and it said, this is too sensitive of a topic.

Andrew Babinski
The Bible's pretty sensitive.

Kim Commando
It is controversial. And it also said, and then because of copyright notices, we are unable to talk about the Bible.

Andrew Babinski
Sure.

Kim Commando
Yeah. Not sure that God has really enforced a lot of copyright notices. Don't talk about that.

Andrew Babinski
Don't. It's controversial.

Kim Commando
It's coming down.

Andrew Babinski
So I found this video online of all of one of the new features of Chappie T. Four o.

Kim Commando
Yes.

Andrew Babinski
I don't why, though?

Kim Commando
This wants to be different.

Andrew Babinski
It's so stupid. What if they make another variation of four? Is it going to be four r, four p. Okay. And it was a four square a tutor interaction between chat GPT and a teen.

Kim Commando
Right.

Andrew Babinski
When you watch the video and if you're listening to the podcast, you don't need to worry about it. You'll be able to follow it, listen to the audio and the voice of the chat GPT and how it's communicating with the child.

Kim Commando
It's phenomenal. Now you know who the guy is.

Andrew Babinski
That's. Well, thank you. It's my spoiler.

Kim Commando
Oh, okay, then I'm not going to tell you.

Andrew Babinski
Watch the video.

Kim Commando
Which sides of the triangle are the opposite? Adjacent and hypotenuse relative to angle alpha. All right, so I'm pretty sure this is the angle alpha. Right here.

Andrew Babinski
Right.

Kim Commando
Perfect. That's correct. Now, looking at the triangle, which side do you think of the hypotenuse?

Andrew Babinski
This next line, that chat should be the coolest part.

Bowser
I'm not totally sure.

Kim Commando
I think it might be this one, but I really am not sure. The side ac, you're close. Actually, side ac is called the adjacent side to the angle alpha.

Andrew Babinski
So obviously it wasn't close. He had the wrong side of the triangle. But it was supposed to be a tutor. It was acting like a tutor. It was very supportive and positive and happy. Yes. And the guy sitting there next to the child being tutored, he owns the Khan Academy, which is the nation's biggest tutoring franchise. He is looking at the thing that's going to make his business obsolete.

Kim Commando
Yep.

Andrew Babinski
And now I don't know if he sees it that way. I don't know if he's saying, well, we'll integrate ourselves and we'll work out a deal, but he's staring down the barrel of him having no future.

Kim Commando
So I was in a meeting yesterday, and Barry says to the person that we're having the meeting with, says, you know, on the way over here, Kim said something that was just brilliant, just a genius material.

Andrew Babinski
See how he talks about you? And you're here telling us he can't find his own pants. Go ahead.

Kim Commando
He is so smart. If he wasn't smart, I wouldn't have married him. You know that. You know, he is smart. Okay. And he. Okay, here's the thing about him. He knows a lot about a lot of things, right? I mean, I could just say, like, oh, look at this old telephone. He'd be like, oh, well, that's the model. Da da da da da. From this. And we know my great great grandmother had one of those. And we used to call and I'm like, okay. And my phone number was. And he remembers everything. That's the problem, though, when somebody remembers everything, because you can't have a fight with him.

Andrew Babinski
Well, you can. You'd just be wrong.

Kim Commando
I know, because he's like, oh, well, you know, you said that in September. Oh, my God.

Andrew Babinski
So what did you say that was so smart?

Kim Commando
The problem that OpenAI and all these companies are having right now is that they are scaring people, they are frightening people. They are not presenting their technology in a warm and comforting way.

Andrew Babinski
Well, that's just what I said before was the way it fails is if we don't trust it. And with this version of chat, GPT and how kind and soft and human the voice is that's going to take a huge step forward in peak because Siri mean, even Siri. Siri was amazing when Siri came out, but Siri still hard. It's stiff.

Kim Commando
They want her to sound like Scarlett Johansson. I mean, that's on from her, that movie her. Okay, but let's go back in time. Okay, is that, let's say we were in the late 18 hundreds and we're living in New York, okay. And we were in a walk up, and so maybe there's four flights of stairs and, you know, and the poor people, they actually lived on the upper floors because you had to walk all the stairs to get to the top. So now we put in elevators. So in the big buildings, people are kind of freaked out by getting in an elevator. So in order to get them in the elevator, they have to have an elevator person, right? So that made people feel more comfortable to get inside the elevator. And all that's going fine and dandy. People are getting more comfortable with the elevators and then they decide, you know what? We need to get rid of the elevator operators. People are going to use the elevators anyway, right? Nope, they didn't, they didn't, they didn't get in the elevators. They were afraid of the elevators. So they're like, okay, well, we have to come up with something to get the people in the elevators. That's why you have the big red button. Stop.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, okay. It's just a security thing.

Kim Commando
So they put the big red stop button in the elevator and people are like, okay, to get in the elevator and all of a sudden they're getting in the elevator. We don't have the elevator operators anymore, and everything's going really fine. That's what we don't have with this don't have the big red stop button.

Andrew Babinski
Meaning the stop of advancement, the stop of where it's going to go, how smart the technology will be.

Kim Commando
Yes. And how, how do we make it not, uh, how do we make it not kill us?

Andrew Babinski
Right.

Kim Commando
I mean, I, I know that sounds really hard to hear, but, you know, we are developing technology that were, you know, that a lot of it was in the sixties in Star Trek. Right?

Andrew Babinski
Are you still afraid of it?

Kim Commando
I'm not going to be around when it happens.

Andrew Babinski
Okay.

Kim Commando
You know, I don't, I think it's going to happen.

Andrew Babinski
Now, that's an interesting statement. When it happens, that it's inevitable that it will happen.

Kim Commando
It will happen because you have nations that cannot agree with each other, nations that have really powerful weapons that will be even more powerful because we're going to have AI develop them, and then we have people who are in charge of the AI with, you know, bad intentions. And so how, how do you make that? So now we have people going, oh, I'm going to go to Washington and we're going to have these committees and we're going to set up a un. You know, I don't know.

Andrew Babinski
I think we're also human beings and that we, all we do is we fight to survive all the time. I don't, I think we will unplug it before we let it destroy us.

Kim Commando
I still think we need the big red button.

Andrew Babinski
All right. It'll just be a pretty button that won't do anything anyway. It's just to make you happy.

Kim Commando
Maybe I should just start an Onlyfans account. It's all gonna go downhill anyway.

Andrew Babinski
What does it matter?

Kim Commando
And I gotta do it before these cupcakes, you know, show off them feet. Kim this program is a copyrighted production of Westar multimedia entertainment and protected by the copyright laws. Any rebroadcast or use of this program for commercial, business, economic or financial purposes without the written permission of Westar multimedia entertainment is strictly prohibited.

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