The NFL may owe you a ton of money

Ally Seligman
Hey, it's Kim Commando today, your daily podcast to keep you up to date with all things digital and beyond. And I'd love to have you be a part of our podcast. You can make an appointment to speak with me. Just head over to commando.com. and on the top right, there's a button that says, email, Kim. Fill that out, and that's it.

Andrew Babinski
So we're gonna have to start this show off with some sad news. In South Korea, at the city council building, they have a robot. A robot assistant. This robot, it works inside the office, delivers papers, files, things. And it also has the ability to use the elevator. So it can go from the first floor to the third floor, no problem. It uses the elevator like a person.

Ally Seligman
Amazing.

Andrew Babinski
But earlier this week, they witnessed it kind of freaking out. It started going in circles, just spinning around. And then out of nowhere, it threw itself down the staircase and it broke into a million pieces.

Ally Seligman
What?

Andrew Babinski
Yes.

Ally Seligman
What happened?

Andrew Babinski
It committed suicide.

Ally Seligman
How and why?

Andrew Babinski
And they're still trying to figure it out. They got all the pieces together. No chance of fixing it. It is destroyed. And we just wanted to say goodbye to a friend.

Ally Seligman
Rip. Oh, my gosh. Look at it. It was so happy back then.

Andrew Babinski
It was. It had so many. Look at all the inter office interaction, all the memos.

Ally Seligman
Yeah, imagine the memos.

Andrew Babinski
Now it's gone. Administrative office.

Ally Seligman
But not forgotten.

Andrew Babinski
No, absolutely not. I mean, I'll forget it in about 1015 minutes, but as of right now, totally remembered. Welcome to Kim Commando today. I'm Andrew Babinski. Ally Seligman is with me. Hello, Ally. We're filling in for Kim. She's off today. She's traveling the world. I don't know why she's off. I just got an email saying she would be off. Usually they give me a reason, but they may have told me and I forgot.

Ally Seligman
She's on vacation. She's on summer vacation.

Andrew Babinski
That's what it is.

Ally Seligman
She's working today?

Andrew Babinski
Yeah. I mean, it's summertime. We all deserve some time off. I'll actually be off in a couple of weeks.

Ally Seligman
Good for you.

Andrew Babinski
Next week, we run in best of. Because of everybody's taking their vacation, actually.

Ally Seligman
Also, you and Kim worked ahead. We have some good gosh darn interviews.

Andrew Babinski
That's true, too. It'll be best of material and some new interviews. They were all great. They were all sex oriented, which I found very interesting. Checks out.

Ally Seligman
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
This is the tech podcast Kim Commando today. This is not the Kim Commando show. The Kim commando show is the radio show. That's been on, I don't know, for. Since Marconi started. Oh. Created the first radio. It's on 500 stations. So if you want to listen to the Kim Commando show, that's actually a separate podcast.

Ally Seligman
It sure is.

Andrew Babinski
It's available on Apple podcasts. Wherever you get podcasts, you can go listen to that. That's more caller driven, more advice driven. This is basically, we give you some information, but we also have some fun and just mess around. I mean, we just said goodbye to a robot that committed suicide in South Korea. That's mainly the theme of this Kim Commando today podcast.

Ally Seligman
That's true. Although my first story is kind of serious.

Andrew Babinski
Is it?

Ally Seligman
Yes. We have five things you need to know and tell.

Andrew Babinski
We start every single show.

Ally Seligman
We sure do. Number one, a 20 year old gamer, a guy from New Jersey, he flew all the way to Florida to try to kill another player that he had a fight with in the game. Yes. Like a thousand miles. Right. He showed up with a hammer.

Andrew Babinski
You got to tell all the details, though. He told his family he's going to visit a friend in Florida. He then flew to Florida, got in an Uber, and went 35 miles to a hardware store to buy a hammer. He then waited until the middle of the night. 02:00 a.m. yep. Went to this other gamer's house.

Ally Seligman
Went into the house.

Andrew Babinski
The doors were unlocked.

Ally Seligman
The step, I think it was the stepmom said, we're in a gated community. We just feel really safe. Except when an angry gamer comes in your house.

Andrew Babinski
Unless an Uber delivers a criminal right to your doorstep.

Ally Seligman
Yes. And then the dad hears the kid screaming, guys on top of him with a hammer. Police said there was a substantial amount of blood, but he was okay. He got stitches. He's all right. When they asked him why he did it, he said, because he's a bad person online.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah.

Ally Seligman
Think this guy did.

Andrew Babinski
Probably just as a troll.

Ally Seligman
Sure.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah. But they play a game that I guess is going away in April.

Ally Seligman
Arch age. I've never heard of it.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah, neither have I, but it's. It's going to be taken offline in April. So I guess there's a lot of high tensions in the gaming community there. They also. They. When they were talking to him after the incident, he looked at police and he just said, how long am I going to go to jail?

Ally Seligman
He knew. He was like, yeah, this was worth it to me.

Andrew Babinski
He's not going to be doing a saying, he's not guilty. He's absolutely guilty.

Ally Seligman
Oh, he's guilty. He knows. He's guilty. Number two, this is something people hate when a big tech company says, hey, a new feature and we're going to turn it on by default for you. Microsoft just did that with Onedrive. Windows eleven is going to automatically back up all your files with Onedrive. People kind of hate Onedrive though.

Andrew Babinski
Well, you don't. I don't want them to back automatically back up anything because you're going to use up all my free space.

Ally Seligman
That is also true.

Andrew Babinski
You give me free space and then you automatically back stuff up that I don't want to back up. I don't need to back up a screenshot I took seven and a half weeks ago of a sale on Amazon. Don't back that up. That needs to be deleted.

Ally Seligman
That's true. Most of the stuff I saved to my computer is absolute garbage.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah, garbage.

Ally Seligman
Yeah, it's garbage. You can deactivate it. I'm not going to tell you here how because you're not going to remember the steps. Right. But we will have it on commando.com dot. You can search windows eleven if you want to do that.

Andrew Babinski
Do you think when they have the built in AI I could just tell AI to do that on my computer?

Ally Seligman
Yes, I do.

Andrew Babinski
That's really cool.

Ally Seligman
Yeah, but it will also know every single thing about you and what you. They already do. Whatever.

Andrew Babinski
That's not as cool.

Ally Seligman
It's the same. It's fine. If you have a PC though, you should update. Not just for that, but there's a new fix that there are a bunch of bugs. And, you know, it's not the big security update. That was two updates ago. So if you skip that one, seriously, go do it. Number three, this is big news because you are an Android guy now.

Andrew Babinski
I am an Android guy now.

Ally Seligman
Okay. As a former iPhone person, you know about the green bubble people. That had been me.

Andrew Babinski
Yes.

Ally Seligman
That was our relationship.

Andrew Babinski
When I switched over everybody that I texted for the first time, everyone had the same joke like, who is this? I'm not gonna talk to you cause of the bubble color.

Ally Seligman
Sure. If you somehow have no idea what we're talking about. When you text iPhone to iPhone, the messages are all blue. If you have an iPhone and you text someone with an Android, their messages are greenhouse. So it's always been this, like, ew, green people, right? Well, looks like with iOS 18, not anymore. It's not going to be an issue because now they're going to support rcs. It's too technical to dig into. Basically we have SMS, regular text, there's mms and then RCS is what? Android?

Andrew Babinski
And then NKOTB. Don't forget the new kids on the block.

Ally Seligman
Yeah, no, they're really important to this conversation, but basically just in the way that if you're texting iPhone to iPhone, you can see if someone's typing, you can see read receipts, you can see actual good videos and pictures and not like, pixelated crap.

Andrew Babinski
I wonder if this is because of the monopoly lawsuits that are happening in Europe.

Ally Seligman
Oh, no, it's absolutely not related, Andrew. They're not worried about that at all.

Andrew Babinski
That thought just popped in my mind.

Ally Seligman
Yes, absolutely it is. No, they're certainly trying to get around some of this stuff. People have been asking for it for a long time. They had been pretty adamant about it. So I imagine this is a let's not get super duper sued.

Andrew Babinski
Here's a hot tip for anyone who is switching from an iPhone to an Android. Take your phone off of imessenger before you do anything.

Ally Seligman
Why?

Andrew Babinski
Because if you try and do it second, no one will see any of your messages because your phone is connected to imessenger. And I saw, you know, they give you the steps on what to do. And I was just like, oh, I'll just do that after I switch the sim card. Do not do it after you switch the Sim card.

Ally Seligman
So listen to the directions.

Andrew Babinski
Yes. Because if you do that step first, everything else will be totally easy. If you don't do that, you'll have to call your service provider and they'll have to manually take you off imessenger.

Ally Seligman
Did you feel like a big idiot?

Andrew Babinski
No, I didn't feel like a big idiot. It just took, like, two and a half hours to figure out what in the world was going on.

Ally Seligman
He's a big idiot.

Andrew Babinski
I am a big idiot.

Ally Seligman
Number three, NBC's bringing back a very iconic voice.

Andrew Babinski
Are they?

Ally Seligman
Yes. For the Olympics. Al Michaels. He's 79, so, you know, he's not doing it with his real voice. It's gonna be AI, essentially. You're gonna get a personalized Olympics recap based on what you like in the Peacock app.

Andrew Babinski
So they approach Al Michaels and they're like, hey, we wanna come back and be part of one last Olympics. I don't know, before you die. I don't know how they asked him. And he was like, no, no interest. And they're like, well, what about this? What about, what about if we have AI sound exactly like you? And he's like, that'll never work. And so they played him, like, four or five examples, and then they showed him the check he's going to get and he agreed to it.

Ally Seligman
Love it. Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
And it actually sounds really good. I mean, there's a lot of pause. There's breaths and pauses. Like it's very natural. But they have. I mean, we have 50 years of Al Michaels talking so much online.

Ally Seligman
Truly. Yes. And it seems pretty cool, actually. I know this is like kind of a. Whatever. It's an. A gimmick. Right. They all are going to be pretty gimmicky for a while, but you can pick the stuff you want to hear about. You can get your whole recap, although they're ten minutes, and that's a long time to me.

Andrew Babinski
There's a lot of sports. Like, isn't cribbage an Olympic sport now? And I don't know how.

Ally Seligman
Bending. I love cribbage. So do I bake cribbage? Do you really?

Andrew Babinski
Oh, yeah. I'm addicted. I love it. And it's hard to find someone that actually likes to play cribbage because there's math involved.

Ally Seligman
We should play. There's so much math.

Andrew Babinski
So if I say 15 for 215 for four, you know what I'm talking about?

Ally Seligman
Absolutely. I do.

Andrew Babinski
Some people think I'm speaking.

Ally Seligman
I just got knobs. I just got his heels. Oh, my gosh. Cribbage jokes. Amazing. That will be in the peacock app, your daily Olympic recap. So. Seems fun.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah.

Ally Seligman
Cool.

Andrew Babinski
And it sounds great, too.

Ally Seligman
And number five, Uber is giving out $1,000.

Andrew Babinski
Okay, I'll take it.

Ally Seligman
Well, there's a catch. So first, this is if you live in Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington, DC, Miami, San Francisco, Toronto or Vancouver, you're eligible.

Andrew Babinski
Should I move to Vancouver so I can be eligible?

Ally Seligman
Thousand dollars. It's called the one less car challenge. So 175 people are going to get this from July 22 to August 25, you can only use Uber and public transportation.

Andrew Babinski
Okay.

Ally Seligman
And they'll give you $1,000. They're essentially trying to prove how expensive it is to have a car and buy gas and charge it and all these things.

Andrew Babinski
Do I have to pay for all my ubers during that period?

Ally Seligman
No, that's part of the.

Andrew Babinski
They're going to give you a. They're going to cover your ride.

Ally Seligman
Yes.

Andrew Babinski
Because it would cost more than $1,000 if I did that.

Ally Seligman
100%.

Andrew Babinski
I mean, ubers are not cheap.

Ally Seligman
That would be a pretty. I mean, these cities. Los Angeles seems pretty rough for that. Yeah, it makes sense. They're not doing it in New York because, duh, everybody does that.

Andrew Babinski
Right. They do already. Right?

Ally Seligman
It would be pretty tough to in Phoenix, don't you think?

Andrew Babinski
I mean, it's a good promotion. Get one car off the road. I get it. I understand it. In Phoenix, you couldn't survive, I think, without a car, it would be tough. It would. Or let me rephrase that. It would be the same financially with your own car, having a car payment, gas, insurance, than it would taking an Uber everywhere.

Ally Seligman
Yeah, that's true.

Andrew Babinski
But I would like $1,000 uber regardless if I'm in one of the cities that it's eligible.

Ally Seligman
Thank you so much. Please reach out.

Andrew Babinski
Welcome back to Kim Commando. Today, Allie and Andrew, the A team, we don't get called that anymore.

Ally Seligman
I know. It's.

Andrew Babinski
Kim used to do that in the beginning, and she doesn't do that anymore.

Ally Seligman
Do you think she's mad at us?

Andrew Babinski
Yeah, probably. Mainly you, the A team, filling in for Kim commando on vacation. If you want Kim commando every single day of the week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, even Thursday.

Ally Seligman
Even Thursday.

Andrew Babinski
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You only have to get one.

Andrew Babinski
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Andrew Babinski
All right. The National Football League.

Ally Seligman
I've heard of it.

Andrew Babinski
The NFL, some people call it. Yeah, those in the know. I don't call it the NFL. You're not a football fan?

Ally Seligman
Football is the one sport that if you put it on, I have no idea what's going on.

Andrew Babinski
Well, then you're not gonna get paid, because the NFL, nine years ago, was suede by a bar saying that they are violating antitrust laws. By forcing him to spend hundreds of dollars to put the NFL Sunday ticket in his bar for his customers.

Ally Seligman
Okay.

Andrew Babinski
Lawsuit was thrown out.

Ally Seligman
Okay.

Andrew Babinski
Then somebody, class action lawyer, picked it up and said there's actually some validity to this because the NFL, what they do is they. Hold on. Let me explain a little bit. If you're a football fan and you want to watch football on Sunday for free, you get four games. You get a morning game, two afternoon games and a night game. It's on broadcast television 100% absolutely free.

Ally Seligman
Okay.

Andrew Babinski
Then the NFL came up with this idea of the NFL Sunday ticket, where you get every single game, every Sunday, all day long. Now, the night games and the Thursday, Monday night, it's not part of the package, but during the day, all of the games throughout the country, because here in Arizona, our games are selected for us based on the region we're in.

Ally Seligman
Okay. Yes.

Andrew Babinski
So we'll get the teams in Vegas and LA and Texas because we're in that region. But if you're a packer fan or a Bear fan, there's a lot of bear fans that live in Arizona. If you're from Chicago and you want to see your bears, you're not going to be able to because you're not in that region.

Ally Seligman
My bears.

Andrew Babinski
So they came up with NFL Sunday ticket, but they did not want to harm the contracts they had with the networks. So they made it stupid expensive dollar 350 per year.

Ally Seligman
$350?

Andrew Babinski
Correct. And they only made it available through the broadcaster that purchased the rights. At the time, it was satellite tv with DirecTV. Now it's streaming online on YouTube.

Ally Seligman
Wait, so you had to get DirecTV.

Andrew Babinski
To get this before it wasn't available? And that's the part of the lawsuit. It was only available through one vendor?

Ally Seligman
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
It also was an inflated price that the NFL would not allow the vendor to change. They were forcing people to pay because ultimately they didn't want people to buy it. They really didn't. They only wanted people who lived in the middle of nowhere that only had access to satellite and didn't have any broadcast networks to buy.

Ally Seligman
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
So they made it so expensive. Now, as negotiations the years went on, other networks would come to them and want to buy the Sunday ticket package, but they're like, we want to sell it for just $70 because we think we can get five times the amount of people if the price is cheaper. NFL said no. They wanted to do per team packages. So if you're a Bears fan, you can just buy the Bears game. NFL said no, and according to antitrust laws that is creating a monopoly. And therefore, the NFL lost in court this week. They lost an o, $4.7 billion to any consumer who purchased the NFL Sunday ticket in the nine year span of.

Ally Seligman
Does this include you?

Andrew Babinski
It doesn't. I never had directv, so I never, I never got NFL Sunday ticket. Also, my team's the Cardinals. I live in Arizona. I'm gonna get all the Cardinals games. I really never had a need, not a Packers guy. But how it's gonna affect you now? They're appealing it. They're definitely gonna appeal it. Uh, because that's a lot of money. It's also an antitrust lawsuit, which I didn't know this, but they can just triple the fines on any antitrust decision. So it could be up to $15 billion in fines for the NFL.

Ally Seligman
That's a lot of money.

Andrew Babinski
Yes. That'd be like $1.5 billion a team or something like that. What. How does it going to affect you as a fan moving forward? Even if the NFL wins the appeal, they're probably going to change how the system works. Like when they were in the last negotiations for the NFL Sunday ticket, Apple approached them and said, we want to buy the contract, but we just want to give it to everybody, anyone who signs up for the basic Apple package. And the NFL said no.

Ally Seligman
Oh, surprise.

Andrew Babinski
So the future could. For Sunday ticket could be. It'll be available on every streamer, whether it's a Roku tv or crackle. I don't know, any streaming. Does that mean exist anymore?

Ally Seligman
I think so.

Andrew Babinski
I think you could buy it on Teemu if you wanted to, that it will be available for everyone. And it also has to be competitively priced. Offering it, someone's going to drop the price to attract customers.

Ally Seligman
So does this mean me, football fan in middle America, who can't get my packers or cardinals or whatever? Maybe I'm going to be paying like $50 if that.

Andrew Babinski
That sounds expensive.

Ally Seligman
Amazing.

Andrew Babinski
It really does. Especially because this could also change the NFL's mind on just selling teams. And so maybe for $6 a month, you get all the packers games. It's going to make it really affordable because the courts are saying that the NFL was screwing over the consumer by not allowing anyone else to compete.

Ally Seligman
I wonder if any other sports have a really bad streaming situation and this is going to make them think like, oh, we need to fix this.

Andrew Babinski
Well, you know, it's pretty cheap. The NBA and the NFL package, I mean, major league baseball packages and hockey, they're pretty affordable.

Ally Seligman
Yeah, I've bought hockey before, and that's pretty cheap.

Andrew Babinski
It's like in the $30 range. It's also available everywhere. You can get these packages. You don't even have to subscribe to anything. You can just go on your phone and get the NHS, NHL and NBA packages. So they're not doing the things that the NFL was doing.

Ally Seligman
This is a NFL problems.

Andrew Babinski
Right. But they, they said now their argument was, and I'll wrap this up really quick. Their argument was, this is a premium product. We offer four games every Sunday for free. This is a premium product that nobody has to buy. And the lawsuit says because they didn't open it up to other people to stream it and allow competition, they violated the law.

Ally Seligman
So if somebody's been paying for this, they can go sign up to get their money.

Andrew Babinski
NFL is going to appeal. So we're still a little while away from that. The NFL also might work out a deal where they say maybe we pay some of these fines and we totally change the system so they don't have to appeal and go through the courts again.

Ally Seligman
If there was a way for you to get money, we'll put it on the website.

Andrew Babinski
Absolutely. Get Joe money back. Welcome back to Kim Commando today. If you're watching us live right now on YouTube, thank you very much. We're here every Monday, Wednesday and Friday. YouTube.com Kim commando.

Ally Seligman
Correct.

Andrew Babinski
If you are watching us live right now, we ask one little favor. It's really easy. Just like, like the video and then share it and then comment and then follow. That's only four things, is four clicks. You do four clicks in your sleep.

Ally Seligman
You do four clicks are the stupidest stuff.

Andrew Babinski
It's true. Truly dumbest thing.

Ally Seligman
Yeah. And this helps our channel. It helps people find us. It helps us grow. It helps us do this podcast.

Andrew Babinski
And we are growing, and we do. Thank you for that. We appreciate that. But if you could help us out with a, like comment, share and a follow, it would keep the podcast going so we can do this every single week, three times a week.

Ally Seligman
It sure would. You mentioned Teemu.

Andrew Babinski
Mm hmm. Oh, wait a minute. That's not how you say it.

Ally Seligman
What is it?

Andrew Babinski
What is it, Tamu? My podcast I'm listening for. They have a new marketing campaign where it's shopped like a billionaire.

Ally Seligman
Yes.

Andrew Babinski
And they don't pronounce, it's Taimou, I think, but they sing it Taimou.

Ally Seligman
Is that it?

Andrew Babinski
But it's not Teemu. I've called it Teemu forever. That's not how you say it.

Ally Seligman
I totally forgot is the other one pronounced Shein or Shein?

Andrew Babinski
I thought it was Shein.

Ally Seligman
Shein. But these are two and Shein. Yeah, these are. If I'm sure you've gotten the ads for them right. It's super, super cheap stuff online. They all come direct from China. Quality questionable.

Andrew Babinski
Well, I mean, it's $8. You're paying $8 for a grand piano? The quality is not going to be the best.

Ally Seligman
That sounds ridiculous, but truly. So I went to the electronics category on Teemu filtered by price. You can get a leather mouse pad for $0.23.

Andrew Babinski
Is that shipped?

Ally Seligman
Yeah. A phone and tablet stand. Thirty four cents. Two webcam covers for $0.50. If you have $1 and one penny.

Andrew Babinski
I do.

Ally Seligman
You can get a six foot long usb cord that might burst into flames.

Andrew Babinski
They can almost promise that it will.

Ally Seligman
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
And just so you know, everybody, I'm getting everybody leather mouse pads.

Ally Seligman
Yeah, everybody. That's your birthday. Six quarters.

Andrew Babinski
And I got this whole staff covered.

Ally Seligman
Oh, they suck. But Amazon is coming after these cheap chinese retailers because they realize how much money they're making. Like billions and billions and billions of dollars.

Andrew Babinski
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, though, these products are available on Amazon.

Ally Seligman
Oh, they sure are. But they're way more expensive.

Andrew Babinski
Right.

Ally Seligman
And here's why. When a seller, a seller from China wants to sell something on Amazon, it has to come through the us factories and they're probably doing it in a volume that they have to pay a lot of tariffs. So there's all these extra fees added in. If they ship it directly from China, which is slower and other stuff, it's so much cheaper. And that's why they can get away with selling a 23 cent mouse pad or whatever else it is. So Amazon just had a big investor call and they said, you know what, I'm, we're going to do this, too. It's presumably going to be its own different site.

Andrew Babinski
Oh, it's not going to be connected to Amazon.

Ally Seligman
I mean, it likely will in some way, but it sounded like maybe it's a different platform. It's going to be unbranded fashion and home stuff.

Andrew Babinski
Okay.

Ally Seligman
Okay.

Andrew Babinski
Basically everything that's sold on Teemo Tamu Teemu. Yeah. Very good.

Ally Seligman
There it is. Yes. Shipping nine to eleven days because it's coming directly from China.

Andrew Babinski
But that's what people who are buying off of Teemo are experiencing already.

Ally Seligman
Totally.

Andrew Babinski
So it's not only going to be a big, drastic, dramatic change.

Ally Seligman
No. And you've probably seen products on Amazon where, like, unless you filter by prime, you do see things where it's, like, comes next month, right?

Andrew Babinski
That's August 8.

Ally Seligman
Yeah, exactly. So that stuff is already on the platform. It's already there. You'll just be able to find all that cheapy stuff and get it cheaper.

Andrew Babinski
Have you had a personal experience with either of those companies?

Ally Seligman
No, I haven't. I've been tempted.

Andrew Babinski
Okay.

Ally Seligman
Many times. I almost did it as a segment for the show once, and then, I don't know, floated out of my brain. No, I haven't. Have you?

Andrew Babinski
No. And I'm just worried about security.

Ally Seligman
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
I don't want to put my credit card information there.

Ally Seligman
Maybe I'll do an order. You give me your credit card.

Andrew Babinski
That's still. I mean, it's technically not me putting my credit card in the.

Ally Seligman
Yeah, no, I'll do it.

Andrew Babinski
Did I tell you my Gordon Ramsay pan story? I think I may have told it on the show.

Ally Seligman
I don't know.

Andrew Babinski
I was all hept up on some kind of sleeping pill, and I woke up in the middle of the night all whacked out of my mind. And of course, you pick up your phone. You pick up your phone. And I'm looking through Facebook and Gordon Ramsay. Now that I know it was a fake Gordon Ramsay, it was like AI was telling me I could get his pans, the pants he uses in his kitchen, for only $9.

Ally Seligman
When did this happen?

Andrew Babinski
Months ago.

Ally Seligman
But it was this year.

Andrew Babinski
Yes. I told you I was whacked out on sleeping pills. And so I run and get my credit cardinal. This is the middle of the night, and I put it in there. And then it's trying to upsell me on things, and I'm saying, no, I just want to spend the $9.99, and then I order it there. It's done complete through Facebook. I went through, like, seven different websites to actually put in my order. And then the following morning, I wake up, and there's tons of legal charges on my card because it was a hundred percent a scam.

Ally Seligman
Don't be like Andrew.

Andrew Babinski
No, but Timu, I mean, my neighbor, I think I told this on the podcast too. We went to the mailbox, and when you at my neighborhood, there's a bunch of big boxes for packages and stuff. And we opened my mailbox, and there's two sets of keys in there. And the kids are like, yay, packages. And when we open them up, they're all from Teemo. There's, like, seven packages in there from Teemu. And I'm like, I've never ordered from there, it was my neighbor's house. So we walk everything down and I meet this neighbor for the first time. And that's exclusively where he shops.

Ally Seligman
No kidding.

Andrew Babinski
Yes.

Ally Seligman
So he's a fan?

Andrew Babinski
He is. Now. He's from China.

Ally Seligman
Okay.

Andrew Babinski
So he's familiar with the company and he says it's quality products. You just need to know the manufacturers to buy from.

Ally Seligman
Maybe you could give us intel. Because that's the thing. There are so many sellers on there. It's like Amazon in that things might look the same, but one might be better than the other. And you don't know.

Andrew Babinski
I'm trying. I also have never had the guts to buy a knockoff jersey because there's, you know, those websites that they make, those fake jerseys. But they're real jerseys. Does that make sense? Yeah, like the quality is the same, but they don't pay any licensing fees. But they still put the logos on there illegally.

Ally Seligman
Right. You might get arrested wearing one.

Andrew Babinski
I won't.

Ally Seligman
How much do they cost?

Andrew Babinski
They're $20.

Ally Seligman
How much is the real jersey?

Andrew Babinski
Probably 180.

Ally Seligman
I think you should try it. It's worth the risk.

Andrew Babinski
But again, I don't want to put my credit card information in there. And I also don't know which one of the fake jerseys is the best fake jersey. Cause you. Like you said, there's 7000. I wanted to get a messy jersey and there's 7000 people selling messy jerseys. But one's gonna be crap and one's gonna be decent.

Ally Seligman
Yeah, there's probably five good ones in the whole match. And you're not gonna.

Andrew Babinski
I'll ask my neighbor. He can give us some Teemoo Taimou tamu recommendations. Beautiful. Welcome back to Kim commando today. Andrew Babinski, Allie Seligman. We're filling in for Kim. She's taking a much deserved vacation. But she does have the Kim commando show this weekend.

Ally Seligman
She sure does.

Andrew Babinski
500 radio stations. I was a call screener for the Kim Commando radio show for 15 years.

Ally Seligman
That's a lot of years.

Andrew Babinski
Yes. And so I know. I know how good this show is. It's caller driven, a lot of advice. It's tech news, but it's also information that you can use in your everyday. I mean, we just. Jerk. We just talked about t moo for six minutes. It's a little bit different than that. It's not deep technology. It's useful technology for everybody on an every daily basis. And she takes tons of callers and great calls on the show. If you want to listen to it, you can find a local radio station by going to Kim's website. Or you can get the free podcast. There is commercial on there. Come on.

Ally Seligman
We have to make money.

Andrew Babinski
There's commercials everywhere.

Ally Seligman
Do you want this lighting to pay for itself?

Andrew Babinski
Correct. You're on YouTube right now. You've already seen like 1215 2nd commercials that you've skipped through. But you can get the whole show commercial free on the Kim Commando show podcast wherever podcasts are available. Stop me if you've heard this one. The Internet is mad.

Ally Seligman
I've heard it.

Andrew Babinski
They are?

Ally Seligman
Yeah.

Andrew Babinski
They're very mad that Toys R Us, which I did not know was still a company. I thought they went out of business.

Ally Seligman
I did too. I think that's KB toys that went out of business.

Andrew Babinski
No, Toys R Us went out of business. And now they're back. Someone bought the brand and they're inside of Macy's. Basically. Toys R Us is now a section in Macy's.

Ally Seligman
That sucks. Ok.

Andrew Babinski
They're trying to get the awareness out there because obviously everybody on this show.

Ally Seligman
Thought pre sell toys out of business. Sure.

Andrew Babinski
They're trying to get the information out there. So they have launched a new ad which they are saying is the first ever big brand AI commercial.

Ally Seligman
Whoa. Let's see it. Did you ever wonder how Toys R Us and Jeffrey the giraffe came to be? The son of a bike shop owner Charles Lazarus had a vision that would.

Andrew Babinski
Go on to change toy stores forever. Jeffrey's alive. He's alive. So here's the ad this is gonna be running. It's basically telling you that Toys R Us is back. It's alive, we exist and it's inside of Macy's.

Ally Seligman
And that Charles Lazarus had this beautiful idea.

Andrew Babinski
It's 100% done through an AI company. Now if you look, I mean, everything is AI generated.

Ally Seligman
Not just an AI company, my man. This is sort of made by OpenAI chat.

Andrew Babinski
But the brand is in there. They have all the logos, right. You know, it's not spelled wrong or there's a five instead of a y. So it's a little bit better. AI technology that's available to us.

Ally Seligman
Yes. They have stuff that normal people can't use.

Andrew Babinski
And I thought it was great. I thought it was cool. I know that people are out of jobs. There's animators that could have been hired. But there's also people who are inventing this technology that are doing this. And I don't understand why everyone's so freaking upset with AI right now.

Ally Seligman
I think that it is one of those knee jerk, gross, no get out of here. For a lot of people.

Andrew Babinski
Yes, I think it is. Absolutely knee jerk.

Ally Seligman
Did you see? I even wrote this down because it was so funny. Well, I typed it, but one of the higher ups at Toys R Us addressing why people are so Madden kind of missed the point. He said, jeffree's an animation. He's a cartoon. We weren't going to hire a giraffe. You know what I mean? No, sir, that's not what people meant.

Andrew Babinski
It's the people that you're paying to draw the animation that they are upset with.

Ally Seligman
Still, a lot of people were definitely involved in this. You can't even where AI is right now. That stuff's pretty good, right? But you, I guarantee you there were a lot of human people, right, who are helping make things better, especially.

Andrew Babinski
This is the first one. This is the first major brand to do it. You don't want it to look like crap. Three tails and five noses that are.

Ally Seligman
You have to make sure it's backwards.

Andrew Babinski
Yeah, it has to be. It has to be. I might want to put it forwards, actually. I wasn't planning on telling this story on the, on the show, but I'm going to.

Ally Seligman
Oh, boy.

Andrew Babinski
A good, a good feel good thing when it comes to artificial intelligence. So, my daughter have, you know the Disney Pixar movie inside out?

Ally Seligman
Yeah. I have not seen it, but I'm aware if you.

Andrew Babinski
If you don't.

Ally Seligman
Is this the emotions one?

Andrew Babinski
Yes, if you don't know, basically, it's about this little girl that inside of her head, there's this control board, and the control board is what runs her, and it's all run by five different emotions. The sequel came out. They added four more emotions, and Joy is the hero. She's the one that leads the way and make sure this little girl is happy.

Ally Seligman
Oh, that's lovely.

Andrew Babinski
And my daughter was asked to go do something and go to a place, and she was very scared. She didn't want to go. She was nervous, and she did not want to go. And so we were sitting there talking about it and asked her why she was scared and why she didn't want to go. And she was giving me all her answers. And I said, you know what? You remember that show inside out? And she said, yeah. And I said, right now you're letting fear run your control board, and you can't do that. You got to. And she stops me. She's like, but there's no bravery. There's no bravery inside out character. And I said, okay, let's make one. What would bravery look like. And she then she loved it. She went off, described what the color of bravery and what she's wearing and what she looks like and what her hair is like. And so I said, okay, you got a laugh. You gotta take bravery. Now that you know bravery's in there, you gotta take bravery. And bravery has to take controls. And so she said, great, she'll do it. And she went and she had a great time.

Ally Seligman
Oh, my gosh.

Andrew Babinski
But while she was gone, I got on my computer and I went to an AI image creator, and I put in her entire description of what bravery looks like. And then I uploaded a picture of one of the characters from inside out, and I said, make it look like this. And it popped out four images and I picked the best one and I saved it to my phone. And then when she got home, I said, look what I found. And I showed her the picture and she's like, oh, my God, it's bravery. And she's like, I knew she would have rainbow colored clothes. I knew it. So without AI and the awareness of that, it just took the lesson I was trying to teach my daughter, and it just added this huge rubber stamp to it. And now anytime she gets worried or afraid, she can look at bravery on her iPad and she knows exactly who needs to take control.

Ally Seligman
This should be our every show segment in which Andrew was a really good dad. That's so sweet. Do you know what, do you remember what tool you used?

Andrew Babinski
I used canva.

Ally Seligman
Okay.

Andrew Babinski
Yes. Now, canva, if you don't have canva pro, so you do get a lot of credits to use. So you can work with it for a while before they're going to start charging you. I think you get like 100 credits, so you can put in 100 different prompts. But canva, I think, is an excellent AI. I put in the word Disney and it kicked it right back because they're not messing around. They don't want to get sued by that mouse. No.

Ally Seligman
You have to be a little clever if you're trying to do prompts. And that was smart. You gave it the picture and said, make it look like this.

Andrew Babinski
Right. And it works. It helps. The more information you give the AI, the more it's going to be able to spit out the camera.

Ally Seligman
You know what I think people don't realize, too? You can give negative prompts. So if it kept making it purple, you could say, not purple. Right, right. So you can say, I want it to be this, but I don't want.

Andrew Babinski
It to be this, but it's also in its infancy. I mean, I had to say a hundred times in there that I wanted a full body because it was just doing it from the waist up, but I wanted a full body. And then it added a tail. I never said it had a tail, but I accepted it. I allowed it.

Ally Seligman
So bravery has a tail.

Andrew Babinski
Very bravery has a tail.

Ally Seligman
I love that.

Andrew Babinski
And she's purple. This program is a copyrighted production of Westar multimedia entertainment and protected by the copyright law. Any rebroadcast or use of this program for commercial, business, economic or financial purposes without the written permission of Westar multimedia entertainment, it's strictly prohibited.

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