Primary Topic
In this episode, Bryan Johnson discusses his cutting-edge methods for reversing the aging process, using himself as a test subject for radical life extension technologies.
Episode Summary
Main Takeaways
- Bryan Johnson's "Project Blueprint" aims to slow and reverse aging using himself as the test subject.
- He claims to have achieved a biological age reduction, with his body aging at a slower pace than typical chronological aging.
- Johnson underwent gene therapy in Honduras, part of a systematic approach based on extensive scientific research.
- The episode highlights the intersection of technology, health, and the potential future of human longevity.
- Johnson's efforts are experimental, embodying both the promise and risks of cutting-edge medical technologies.
Episode Chapters
1: Introduction and Background
Kim Komando introduces Bryan Johnson and his quest for life extension through technology. Kim Komando: "Welcome to today's episode where we dive into reversing aging with Bryan Johnson!"
2: Project Blueprint and Its Impact
Discussion on Johnson's "Project Blueprint" and its impact on his health. Bryan Johnson: "For every twelve months, my body ages approximately 7.6 months."
3: Gene Therapy in Honduras
Johnson details his experience with gene therapy abroad and the scientific basis behind his choices. Bryan Johnson: "We've sorted through scientific literature to find what extends life most effectively."
4: The Future of Human Longevity
Exploration of the ethical, legal, and social implications of life extension technologies. Bryan Johnson: "This endeavor is about asking what humanity does next with the advent of superintelligence and extended life."
Actionable Advice
- Monitor Health Regularly: Implement regular check-ups and biomarker monitoring to understand and manage personal health better.
- Research Before Experimentation: Thoroughly research any new health regimes or technologies before trying them, especially those that are not FDA-approved.
- Consider Lifestyle Adjustments: Adopt healthier lifestyle choices that can naturally extend life expectancy, such as better diet and regular exercise.
- Stay Informed About New Technologies: Keep up-to-date with the latest advancements in health technology to make informed decisions about personal health management.
- Evaluate the Risks and Benefits: Carefully weigh the potential risks and benefits of experimental therapies, particularly in the context of long-term health and well-being.
About This Episode
Remember Bryan Johnson, the tech millionaire trying not to die? He says his body now ages only 7.6 months for every 12. We'll also cover how employers are luring people back to the office and why Apple is changing plans for the Vision Pro headset.
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Transcript
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Kim Commando
Hey, it's Kim Commando today, your daily podcast to keep you up to date with all things digital and beyond. And I'd love to have you be a part of our podcast. You can make an appointment to speak with me. Just head over to commando.com. and on the top right, there's a button that says email. Kim, fill that out and that's it. So, Andrew, I know that you're still looking for a car, right?
Andrew Babinski
Yeah, I actually got a different station vehicle than the station vehicle I was driving before. And this new one doesn't have air conditioner and the windows don't work, so.
Kim Commando
No. You're kidding.
Andrew Babinski
I'm really looking for a new car because we're in Arizona and it's 114 degrees today.
Kim Commando
I think they're trying to give you a sign that you need to, like, get your own car next.
Andrew Babinski
They're just going to give me a tricycle. You can go ahead and use this. It's the station tricycle.
Kim Commando
It's fine. It'll be good. Just take it. Well, if you're in the market. If you're in the market for a Ferrari, is that. I do want to let you know that they have made an announcement that the new Ferraris will not include an in navigation system. No GPS.
Andrew Babinski
Really? That's surprising. Taking a step back with the technology.
Kim Commando
Well, they say that their gps sucks, which it does. And they want everybody to use their phones, okay? So they don't have to worry about it. And then in other Ferrari news, they just in case you are looking for a Ferrari, they announced that they are going to be coming out with a brand new electric vehicle. It's a little pricey. It's a little pricey?
Andrew Babinski
What are we talking, like 85, 90,000?
Kim Commando
$500,000.
Andrew Babinski
Okay. All right. Quick question. Can I borrow $480,000?
Kim Commando
No, I'll tell you somebody, I don't know if you know this, but somebody actually, like, bumped into me in my Ferrari the other day.
Andrew Babinski
Now with their car.
Kim Commando
Now it's. No, no, now it's Al Dente.
Andrew Babinski
Oh, God. I didn't know that was a joke. Thought this was a real story.
Kim Commando
And on that happy note, welcome. It's Kim Commando. Today it's your fun podcast about all things digital. I'm, of course, your beloved digital goddess here with you once again. And just a reminder, this is not the Kim commando show. If you are looking for the Kim commando show, that's what you need to search for in your pods. That's right. Just search for Kim Commando show. And joining me, of course, is our very own Andrew Babinski. So, Andrew, what do you have coming up with us?
Andrew Babinski
We had a traveler, american airlines traveler, that lost their bag and then found it thanks to their apple airtag. But the place they found it was very surprising.
Kim Commando
Hmm. Now, do you put airtags in your luggage?
Andrew Babinski
I don't have an iPhone anymore, so it doesn't matter.
Kim Commando
Oh, that's right. It's Samsung.
Andrew Babinski
I'll have to get some kind of new whatever tag that goes along with Android. I have an airtag in my wallet, and my phone keeps telling me that someone's trying to track me because there is an unknown tracker on my person. And I'm like, calm down, phone. It's just my wallet.
Kim Commando
So how are you liking the Samsung? It's radar.
Andrew Babinski
It's essentially the same. Like, I thought it would be a different ecosystem and it would be new and fresh, but it's essentially the same exact thing. There's one feature, though, that I really like. I know you're going to laugh at it, but I can text message with Gemini, so I don't have to go to a web page. I don't have to go to an app. I just open my messaging app. I have a text message feed, and I can just chat with the chatbot right in there. And Gemini so far has been pretty good.
Kim Commando
Well, I think you should ask it a question, like, you know, how wonderful is Kim commando and see what it says.
Andrew Babinski
What makes you think I haven't already asked it multiple times?
Kim Commando
Oh, you're such a liar.
Andrew Babinski
So lying.
Kim Commando
Oh, Brian Johnson's gonna be here in just a few minutes.
Andrew Babinski
Oh, great.
Kim Commando
You know Brian? Yeah, yeah, he's back. Yeah, he's the one that you asked about his. By his what about his sleeping habits at night?
Andrew Babinski
Yeah, he's the guy who's gonna live forever. He's gonna live out. Live all of us.
Kim Commando
Well, you know what? Oh, I don't want to. Well, I don't want to ruin it, but he's got. He's got. He's got something going on in his life that he's back. He's going to be talking to us about it because it's really an exciting advancement.
Andrew Babinski
Well, we know he didn't die, so that he's still moving along with his plan. So it's perfect.
Kim Commando
All right, here are the top five things that are happening in the tech verse that you need to know right now. Number one, DJI drones. Do you have one?
Andrew Babinski
No. I don't even know what it is.
Kim Commando
A drone. DJI drone. It's like the biggest drone manufacturer.
Andrew Babinski
I don't have a drone ever. The only drone we got was, like, $7 on Amazon, and we lost it within ten minutes.
Kim Commando
Okay, well, this is not it. DJI drones. Biggest drone manufacturer. And of course they're based where? Communist China. Oh, yes, China. And so the House of Representatives has passed a ban on DJ drone sales in America. It's now going to the Senate. If it passes that, then the president will sign it. And that means that if you are in the market for a DJI drones, that you should probably buy it now, because they're not going to be for sale in the United States anymore if they do get banned, which, by the way, DJI drones are not allowed for use in the military. And at the same time that what else has been banned is Kaspersky antivirus software. Because guess what?
Andrew Babinski
What?
Kim Commando
They have ties to Russia. Russia.
Andrew Babinski
We're just loading up on all these ill actors. If you had a tick tock account that centered around those drones, the government's just coming for you. They're trying to shut you down on all phases.
Kim Commando
That'll be. Just be it. That'll be it. No more. Apple's specs appeal is over. Get that? Apple specs appeal. The Apple Vision Pro. I know, it's a shocker to all of us. $3,500. They're not selling very well.
Andrew Babinski
Are they still selling, period.
Kim Commando
Well, they had some engineers that were working on the Apple Vision Pro two, and they went to them this past week and they said, we have a change of mind. And instead of you doing the Apple Vision Pro two, is that we want you to come out, like with the Apple Vision Pro one and a half, because we want to sell it. Instead of at $3,500, we want to come out with a new version that's closer to the price of an iPhone or $1,500. So do you think that it would still sell at $1,500?
Andrew Babinski
No. The people who bought it, they gomed over it for days and days and days, and then they returned it. No one wants to sit there with a helmet on, trying to work or watch tv with their friends and family.
Kim Commando
No, it's a monstrosity.
Andrew Babinski
It's huge.
Kim Commando
It is. It's awful. It's like, oh, why would you want to do that? All right, coming in at number three is that I know that you have this car situation that we've talked about, and I know that you love to go in self driving cars, because you do, you should not take them to work early morning or in twilight hours or in low light conditions. What I found is that it's five and a quarter times more likely to crash.
Andrew Babinski
It's only five times.
Speaker C
Roll the dice.
Andrew Babinski
Early. Spyrosaurs are fine.
Kim Commando
It'd be worse. It's not a problem. Not at all. Not at all. So you can draw. You can sit in a waymo when it's really bright outside. Oh, by the way, if you have to make a lot of turns, it's probably not a good idea to get into a self driving car either. Okay. They're twice as likely to mess up on turns as compared to human drivers.
Andrew Babinski
So middle of the day, straight line.
Kim Commando
Perfect. That's what you get. That's what you get.
Andrew Babinski
You know, I'll just turn on my flashlight on my phone, and I'll just shine it at the front of the car. If I'm driving on twilight hours, it'll be fine. Be safe.
Kim Commando
You know, even then, it'd be like the car would be freaking out. Like, oh, what am I doing?
Andrew Babinski
It probably would.
Kim Commando
What is that? All right. You know, I'm a big fan of Elon Musk, and Elon Musk has come out with, you know, Starlink is truly phenomenal. If there's anything the guy's done right, it's Starlink. Oh, my gosh. Over our house here in Santa Barbara on Tuesday night, there was this major launch of a rocket with, like, 20 different starlinks. It was so amazing to see. It really was. But the reason why I'm talking about SpaceX, this is phenomenal. This is something. Okay, you know how, like, if you're gonna be, say, away from home and you need the Internet, is that everybody be like, oh, you need to get a hotspot, right? And then you're like, oh, yeah. Then I get, you know, and then I have to make sure I have enough bars, and then I gotta see what's going on. And then they always put those restrictions on me, and then what's. You know. And it's a pain in the neck. Well, Starlink has come out with something called the Starlink mini, okay? It's basically Internet access via satellite in a device about the size of your iPad.
Andrew Babinski
Okay?
Kim Commando
You can throw it in your backpack. So wherever you go around the world is that you have Internet access now. Doesn't matter where you are.
Andrew Babinski
Do we have the cost on this, what that unit costs and what it costs per month?
Kim Commando
How much do you think it costs?
Andrew Babinski
I would go with $2,000 and $150 a month.
Kim Commando
You're right about the $150 a month. Okay. The little backpack Internet gadget is $600.
Andrew Babinski
Oh, that's not bad.
T Mobile
That's affordable.
Kim Commando
That's definitely worth it. Then you get 50 gigs of data, which, you know, I did the math. That's only eight movies a month or 500 hours of browsing on Instagram. You have your choice.
Andrew Babinski
I checked my phone just recently. I use, like, 27, 28. I don't use that much data because I'm always on Wi Fi.
Kim Commando
Yes, exactly. But if you're out in the middle of nowhere where there's no Wi Fi, and then you got the Internet on your back, I think that's really amazing. And finally, this. Mildred Kirchenbaum. Mildred Kirchenbaum. She's my hero. Yes. She is 100 years old. Okay? She still loves to travel. She's going all around the world, going all seeing her entire family in the United States. But when she goes through TSA that she has identified a computer glitch, she gets, like, patted down and taken on the sides all the time whenever she goes through TSA. And this is a 10 zero year old woman. Okay? The reason why is that the TSA's computers don't go back that far. And so when she. When she comes up to the gate, she was born in 1923, okay? They think she was born in 23, and she's an unaccompanied one year old traveling the country.
Andrew Babinski
I think they could look at her, maybe decide that that's not the case.
Kim Commando
Okay? And no one's been able to fix it yet.
Andrew Babinski
Just give her, like, a special pass, some sort of government issued. I'm not a baby id. Let her leave her alone. She's 100, and she's still traveling. God bless her.
Kim Commando
I said that we should just give her a free first class seat wherever she wants.
Andrew Babinski
Absolutely. I think anyone who's 100 should get free flights.
Kim Commando
I wonder if she gets pre check. You know, the TSA precheck so you don't have to stand in line.
Andrew Babinski
I think maybe she probably would. I mean, she's 100. Let's give her something.
Kim Commando
Okay, you ready for a bad joke?
Andrew Babinski
Yeah.
Kim Commando
Now. Okay. This is one that you're gonna want to pass along. This is one that is so funny, and especially now. Cause so many people are getting ready to travel. AAA says 71 million Americans are gonna be traveling over the 4 July weekend. And so that means that either you're gonna be traveling or you're going to know somebody's traveling. So that's when you can take this joke out of your pocket, and then you can just be the life of the party.
Andrew Babinski
This is a heck of a buildup.
Kim Commando
You ready for it?
Andrew Babinski
Mm hmm.
Kim Commando
Okay. Why does TSA like to hire dentists as managers? Why does the TSA like to hire dentists as manager?
Andrew Babinski
I don't know, Kim. Why?
Kim Commando
Because they're already experts at performing cavity.
Andrew Babinski
Searches that build up for that. That joke.
Kim Commando
Oh, God, I am so funny.
Andrew Babinski
I am not telling anyone that.
Kim Commando
Oh, I think you should.
Brian Johnson
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Kim Commando
Hey, it's Kim commando. Today it's your fun podcast about all things digital. And, oh, my gosh, do you remember Rian Johnson? Andrew?
Andrew Babinski
Of course. He's unforgettable.
Kim Commando
He's the guy who's trying to crack the code on living forever. I mean, just a fascinating guy. He's been on the show before, and he's all into reverse aging, and he has on his website everything that he does so that maybe you want to follow his footprint. And it's called Project Blueprint, by the way. Project Blueprint. And he's using himself as the test subject. Now, Brian says he's the most measured human being in history. We talked to him about that last time, right? You remember that?
Andrew Babinski
Yeah. And I, since we've talked to him, I've taken zero pieces of his advice.
Kim Commando
Really? You look different.
Andrew Babinski
No, I haven't changed a thing. I was like, yeah, this guy's right. We gotta do this. We gotta be better. And I haven't done anything different. No, exactly.
Kim Commando
I will tell you that I bought the olive oil. Oh, yeah. And it is phenomenal. I mean it. I mean, you can. You taste the olives and, you know, it's just, it's got a different consistency over, like, olive oil that you get in the supermarket. But anyway, Brian has hit a milestone that he calls 0.64. Basically, for every twelve months that pass, his body only ages 7.6 months. And his birthday now happens every 19 months. So, Brian, thanks for being here. Do we say happy birthday?
Brian Johnson
Yes, it is. Thank you. Thanks for. Nice to be back.
Andrew Babinski
So what is your body age right now if you're following your birthday 19 month calendar?
Brian Johnson
Well, it's really a new frame of a concept. We've always assumed that the birthday should be celebrated every twelve months. And we're demonstrating that there are clocks inside your body that actually show you your speed of aging. So if you're aging at a one, then it's, you know, as a normal 46 year old would age one biological year for one chronological year, but you can actually slow down that clock. And so for the past four years, we've endeavored to try to slow down my speed of aging. And this is a new personal best. It's a slower speed of aging than 99% of 20 year olds.
Kim Commando
Wow.
Andrew Babinski
So you can't even drink yet.
Brian Johnson
That's right.
Kim Commando
So I watched the video of you going down to Honduras for the, I guess you'd say, is it DNA gene therapy? What would you call that?
Brian Johnson
That's right. It was my first longevity gene therapy. And so we've been, what we did is the team, we combed through all the scientific literature and we tried to find the science that had the best results. So what would be encouraging, for example, if you find a study that extended mice lifespan span 30%, and then we ranked all the scientific evidence according to how good they were at increasing longevity, and then we started working through that process systematically. And so this given therapy, gene therapy for olastatin, ranks number seven. And so we've been trying to do it for the past few years, but we could never find a gene therapy that was safe, because once you do gene therapy, you can't really turn it off. Well, we found a company that allowed us to do the gene therapy and also have a kill switch. So if you don't like the outcome or you're worried about it, you can just take an antibiotic, tetracycline, and it turns it off. So I did the gene therapy in September. I also gave it to my dad. And since then, we got the six month results where I increased my muscle mass by 7% and my speed of aging dropped to a new personal best of 0.64.
Kim Commando
And so why Honduras? Why go there? Because it was actually an island off of Honduras.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. The therapy is not approved in the US by the FDA. It was developed in Prospera, which is a special economic zone on the island off the coast of Honduras. And so it's legally administered in that jurisdiction, but it's not FDA approved in the US.
Kim Commando
So can you feel a difference?
Brian Johnson
You know, I can't. When I first started doing my protocol a few years ago, I was migrating from sleep deprivation and being overweight and eating junk food to sleeping well and exercising and eating well. And I felt a dramatic difference in my overall well being. But once you've become optimized to a certain degree, it's pretty hard to feel the effects of anything. So at this point, I kind of feel great all the time, and it's just hard to move the needle very much at this point.
Andrew Babinski
But that makes complete sense. I mean, when we were 20 and we'd go out all weekend and just sleep a couple hours, you were fine rolling in on Monday morning. And now I peel an orange and I need to take a nap. So that totally makes sense.
Brian Johnson
Like, for example, there's a common idea that you work out two or three times a week, or three or four times a week. You let your muscles repair in that timeframe. I work out seven days a week, 1 hour every day. I never get sore. And so we're doing things that do pressure test what we've been told, and so far we can't identify anything that is wrong. It doesn't seem like we're causing any damage. My muscle mass is the top 99 percentile. My fat is 99 percentile optimal. And so, yeah, my body just is working really well in all areas, you.
Kim Commando
Know, it truly is. You know that your body is a machine at this point. And I will tell you, Brian, is that I saw pictures of you this morning, probably ten years ago. You look so great now. I mean, before you did, you look like that tech guy that was living on Red Bull and just barely existing. And now you're like this vibrant, man. It's amazing.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, thank you very much. That's exactly how I feel. I was mostly dead in that kind of lifestyle, and now I feel it's the best conscious experience of my life.
Andrew Babinski
So now you talked about the fact that everything is working and nothing is harming you, yet, if you get to a point where you're seeing reversals or you're trying something and it's hurting you, will you just adjust? Will you cut that off? How are you going to manage something like that?
Brian Johnson
Yeah, we do. We experiment and we learn and we adjust, and it's a constant process. And it's really a good question of how much do we really know, and how much do we not know? It could be possible that we really don't know most of what we should know, and so we just don't know where we're at in the stage of anti aging. But so far, with what we can tell, we look at biomarkers like cholesterol and triglycerides and inflammation, things like that. We look at other more advanced technologies, like, or I guess I should say emergent technologies like speed of aging. But in every biomarker, I'm in the top 1%. And so I potentially have the best biomarkers of anyone in the entire world. And so if anyone's better than me, I don't know who they are. They haven't shared it. But if you look at across the board, so we've really set a new standard on. When you say good health, what data can you demonstrate to back that up?
Kim Commando
You know, Jeff Bezos looks a lot different than he did ten years ago, too. Is he doing any type of anti aging that you know of?
Brian Johnson
I do not know anything what Jeff is doing. I recently saw him at a gathering, but we didn't get into many details, so I know he's working on it generally, but I don't know what his protocol is.
Kim Commando
And so were you concerned going back to Honduras, were you concerned that maybe when you get the gene therapy, that something might go wrong, that maybe there might be a cancer or something that might develop from that?
Brian Johnson
Yeah, there's always the risk. So we, my team and I spent two years researching this therapy. So we try to be as methodical and safe as we can. Now, of course, you can't entirely eliminate risk, so we're always taking risks. When I get into the car and drive, I'm taking a risk. And so we do try to be very thoughtful. We don't take any unnecessary risks. But this entire endeavor is experimental. No one's ever done this before. So we're very eyes wide open. We're humble, we're open. We know we're going to make mistakes, but so far, I mean, if you just say you're going to grade this effort based upon biomarkers that the world agrees upon, like cardiovascular capacity or heart health, lung health, again, I'm the top 1% on all the categories across the board. So from what we do know today, we've exceeded far and above what I thought was possible.
Kim Commando
See, Andrew, there's. There's hope for you. I mean, you could go to, like, maybe be the top 60%.
Andrew Babinski
Hey, that's attainable. I went to high school and got those grades, so I'm used to sixties percent. Is this a forever project, or are you going to reach a point where you went, we figured it out. I did it. Now I'm going to have a burrito.
Brian Johnson
You know, the idea of eating, going to taco bell or McDonald's or something just makes me sick. I. It would not be worth it. I would hate myself. I would immediately, you know, have upset stomach. I wouldn't sleep that well that night. So, no, I mean, really, this endeavor, it does, I know it seems like it's about vegetables and exercise and whatnot. What I'm really trying to do is pose the question that what does, what does the human race do when your baby steps away from creating superintelligence? It's the most important question on planet earth right now. And so I host a dinner at my house every week. I gather ten to twelve people together, and for 2 hours, we talk about these concepts, and I leave them through a guided discussion with thought experiments. And it takes that long to get your head around what existence may be like for being a human in the coming years. And so the entirety of what I'm doing is centered around this concept of don't die. If you live in the 15 hundreds, you know, what can you imagine to be the most aspirational thing one might be selling around the world? And when you're in the year 2024, what aspirations can you express? And I'm proposing, as a species, this is the first time in our history where we could say with a straight face we may not die. And as outlandish as that seems, the future always seems outlandish to the present. And so that's what this endeavor is about as a species, is don't die individually, don't kill each other, don't kill the planet, and align AI with don't die. It's the single don't die is the most played game by every human on the planet every second of every day. It's played more than capitalism. It's played more than religion. It is the singular game we play, you know?
Kim Commando
It is. You know, and speaking of those dinners, is that we're sad you never invited us, but apparently you invited the other Kim. The Kim Kardashian. That must have been a pretty wild ride, huh?
Brian Johnson
We had a great time. Yeah. And Kim is very much into health and wellness. We have a lot in common, a lot more than I realized. And so it was a fun dinner, and I would love to have you attend one.
Kim Commando
Well, thank you. Thank you.
Andrew Babinski
Nice way to force an invite there, Kim. That was smart. That is good thinking right there. Put them on the spot when we're live on the Internet.
Kim Commando
I love it. You know, and then. But this is also gonna go on the show. 500 radio stations, you know, it's. The pressure is going to mount the whole thing, Brian. So before you leave. Cause I know that you have a hard out. Can you just refresh everybody's memory about what your typical day looks like and what you're eating? Exactly.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. So, the premise behind this is, we endeavored to build an algorithm that could take better care of me than I can. And so we build this algorithm with scientific evidence, and it makes all the decisions for me. And so I wake up typically around 430 or five in the morning. I then will do about 100 therapies in a given day. It's all baked in as habits. I'll just walk you through a few of them. So you have an idea. The first thing I'll do is take my inner ear temperature to look at my body temperature, because body temp is an important indicator of any side effects or any problems. I'll do body composition on wearing a scale. I'll do light therapy. So, three minutes of using a 10,000 lux light. I'll do some hrv therapy or breathing techniques for nervous system, and then I'll take some pills and drink a concoction, a blueprint longevity mix, and then I'll work out for an hour, eat breakfast, which is a bunch of vegetables, and then a few other therapies, get ready for the day, work all day. Then I have a nighttime routine. And so the day is just built out into this structured way, because what I'm trying to do, something no one's ever done before, like, for example, I did. I posted eight months of perfect sleep, 100% sleep score, every night with a wearable. And so no one in history has done that before. And I wanted to show that you can, in fact, get perfect, high quality sleep every night if you build systems around it. And so I'm not expecting people to follow my routine. What I'm trying to show people is things that certain levels of health and wellness are achievable when you build systems to support it.
Kim Commando
Well, that's awesome. And project blueprint on the website. What I like is that you're sharing everything that you do. And it's really kind of neat that you are funding this whole experiment. And of course, you're the. The experimentee, but anybody can go to the website and then read about it and then even buy some products that might help them jumpstart their own routines.
Brian Johnson
That's right. Yeah. Everything is open sourced. I've given everyone the exact details of what I do. The diet, the recipes, the mistakes. And then I'd say, just for those of you listening, you don't need to do what I do. So just follow a few simple power laws. Don't smoke. Exercise 6 hours a week. It doesn't matter what you do. Just be active for 6 hours. Three is eat a blueprint and or mediterranean like diet. Four is have a bmi between 18.5 and 22.5 and drink little to no alcohol. And then make sleep your top priority. And the last thing is if you make friends and community part of your life. But if you do the basics, you get the majority of the health benefits. So you definitely don't need to be on extreme like I am, and that will really push you in the right direction.
Kim Commando
Well, brian, thanks for being here again. It was great to catch up with you.
Brian Johnson
Likewise. Thanks for having me.
Andrew Babinski
That guy's so interesting.
Kim Commando
He is. He's amazing. He really is. You know, it's because sometimes I will be looking at the Daily mail, and then I see him and I'm like, oh, there's Brian. There's brian.
Andrew Babinski
Still alive, still doing it.
Kim Commando
I'll tell you, though, he looks great. He does. You should look at that video of him and Honduras.
Andrew Babinski
But also just him. The way he looked today compared to the last time we interviewed him. He looks so, so much younger. I'm serious. I'm not trying to, like, joke around when he popped on the screen. My God, he is getting younger. He's doing it.
Kim Commando
All right, so we got to get off our butts. Do we have to? And, uh. Okay. And you have to stop eating fast food. I don't do that. I I I need to start eating more vegetables.
Andrew Babinski
No drinking.
Kim Commando
Do two oh, I know. That's the hardest one. Oh, you know what? I will exercise more if I can have a martini.
Andrew Babinski
That what he said?
Kim Commando
Okay, that's not what he said.
Andrew Babinski
He didn't say it's a trade off. No alcohol. Actually, everyone here said no. Just keep doing what you're doing. They don't want you to come into work when you haven't been drinking.
Kim Commando
Oh, my gosh. That wouldn't be bad.
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Kim Commando
Hey, we're so glad that you're here with us, Kim commando, today. And just a quick reminder, if you haven't already, make sure that you sign up for our free newsletter, over@getchim.com dot. Once again, that's getchim.com dot. Over 500,000 people get our free newsletter. They just love it. Let me tell you. It has a 4.9 star review out of five stars. And you know, you get text marks just five minutes a day, that's all. So sign up right now over at get kim.com. so it's a big travel season, Andrew. The summer's upon us, and it's a good idea for anybody if you're on Apple to throw an airtag into your luggage. You can also track your luggage using the official airlines app. If you're on Android, then you want to use a tile tracker so that this way you always know where that bag is.
Andrew Babinski
Yes. And we have a story that happened at the end of May where a woman actually found her bag. She was in Dallas flying home to California, and flight got canceled. Everything was delayed. Everything was up in arms, and a flight opened up. She'd been there for hours. She had slept at the airport all night. And they said, hey, if you can get on this flight in the next half hour, we can get you home. She's like, perfect. What about my bags? And they're like, don't worry about your bags. We'll get them to you once you get home. She's like, great. Gets on the plane, gets home. Five days later, package arrives from American Airlines. It's not her suitcase. They had sent her someone else's bag. So she calls them up, and they're like, oh, just bring it back. We'll get you yours. Don't worry. No big deal. Nothing's a problem. Here's a problem. It's gone. They can't find it, so they start tracking it. Like you said they used. It went from Dallas to Denver to California, and then it was lost. They had no idea where it went after it actually arrived in California. But then she remembered she put an airtag in her bag. So she pulls out her phone, pops on the airtag, the tracking connects, and it's in Hollywood. So it had made it back to California. Calls up a friend of hers because she wasn't familiar with the neighborhood. They drive out there as they're tracking it, as they're driving, they're getting closer, and they're getting closer, and they're at the point where the bag is, and. And they look to their right, and it's a homeless encampment. Ooh. She didn't see her bag, but she saw someone who was pushing a cart that had her. Her items in their cart. She saw her stuff, she saw her clothes. She saw her toiletry bag. She saw her jewelry. And she went over to the person, and she said, they said, where'd you get this stuff? And then, of course, the person's not going to tell the truth. They said, this is my stuff. Get away. So they offer money to this person to get some of her things back, which they accepted. So she paid for her own stuff. And as she's leaving, she looks over, and what does she see? She sees tons of bags, suitcase after suitcase, new suitcases, old suitcases, strollers, bicycles, golf clubs, just all stacked up in the back of the homeless encampment. Called police. Obviously, it's California, Los Angeles police. You know, they. They have bigger fish to fry. Then she called the airline, and the airline said, we do everything we can to make sure that our some, you know, pre prepared statement. But they did offer her money for her lost bag, even though she had found it. I didn't know this, that they can give you up to $3,800 if they lose your bag for a domestic flight. But that was it. It was. It was stolen from the airport by someone brought to the homeless encampment and then destroyed, torn apart. And people just cherry picked what they wanted out of her luggage.
Kim Commando
So any idea how the luggage got there? Or. I guess we're just waiting for the police to figure that out. I mean, is like, there's somebody going over when a flight lands and then just swipe in the bag.
Andrew Babinski
So she said when she was at the airport to return the. The other bag that wasn't hers. They try and keep all of the luggage in the back where it's secure, but it gets to a point that it's so much. And there's. These airports are so big that it was just lined up outside of the office where she went and returned the bag free for anyone to just walk by, grab a bag, and roll off with it. She thought that she could ask if they had seen someone on security camera taking her bag, but if it ended up in a homeless encampment, most likely it was a homeless person that went to the airport to take it, and it was just stolen.
Kim Commando
So the rule of thumb is carry on.
Andrew Babinski
Yeah, I mean. Cause she did track it. Her tracker would have worked if it was never stolen, if it was just lost. But the fact that it was stolen and she found it and there was so many other people's bags there is just sad.
Kim Commando
You know, it's not just people that are traveling. You know, snails are traveling, too.
Andrew Babinski
Are they?
Kim Commando
Yeah. You know, and when. When a snail travels, the snail has the luggage, but it's not really called the luggage. It's called. It's cargo.
Andrew Babinski
Yeah, that's cargo. I knew the punchline was gonna be as cargo, but I didn't know how you would eventually get there.
Kim Commando
Oh, I'm so.
Andrew Babinski
Oh, you did it. You got there.
Kim Commando
There.
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Hey, it's Kim commando today. And if you're just wondering, like, hey, is this the Kim commando show? No. But now you can get the Kim Commando show as a podcast. Yes. Wherever you get your podcast is search for Kim Commando show. And then there are actually two versions. There's the Kim Commando show that's free with commercials. And then there's the Kim Commando show that's paid. And the reason why it's paid is because guess what? There are no commercials in it. So, of course, if you just can't get enough of me with Kim Commando today and the Kim Commando show, there's yet a third podcast called the Daily Tech Update. And then every day, you get the top news story and you get a digital life hack tip that's going to make a difference in your life. So anyway, if you're looking to take me everywhere all the time, we have you covered. Just search for Commando with a kick. All right, so I don't know if you heard about Dell, Andrew, but a lot of people at Dell don't go, want to go back to work because they're like, you know what? We moved from Texas. We're now living in Colorado and New York and Florida, and we're having this great time. And Dell is saying, no, no, no. We need everybody back in Texas. We need everybody to come back to Texas. And they're like, no, we're not gonna come back. And they're like, and then Del's like, no, you don't understand. You need to come back to work. Go. Come back to the office. And like, nope, we're gonna work remotely. Cause we wanna work remotely. And we're so happy working remotely that we don't even care if you ever give us a promotion again. We don't care if you ever give us a raise again. We're just gonna stay like happy little cogs in the wheel. But as long as we can stay where we are.
Andrew Babinski
Because technically, you got a raise when you got to work at home. Because I know families that got rid of their second vehicle because they didn't need it. So they're saving money there. You're not paying for gas, less insurance.
Kim Commando
It was a raise, kinda. I mean, I guess you could say that. I mean, but also, your career's at a dead end.
Andrew Babinski
No, that's true.
Kim Commando
Where are you gonna go? I mean, there's not. I will tell you that, you know, during the pandemic and all that other stuff is like, you know, we were all working remotely. And for the last week, you know, I was out in California getting my eyes checked. So I decided just to stay out here. I really can tell a difference in my productivity negatively or positively negatively, okay. That I am not as focused. I feel secluded. I find myself, instead of just like, normally, I would just walk down the hall and say something to Allie or Jeremy or just joke around or, like, you know, let's check this out. Mackenzie or whatever it may be, and mads and Maddie, whoever it was. And I'm just finding that, you know, I'm like, oh, okay, I'll do that in a little while. Sure. I'll drop them a chat or can you video right now? And it's like. It's just. I don't know, I just. It's just not for me.
Andrew Babinski
I agree. I never had to work at home and I'm the type of person where I'm at. I heart doing my radio show. If I need to talk to someone in promotions, I could just pop up on the computer, pull up an email, send them a quick note. But I rather walk down and interact because I'm going to get my question answered, but also I'm going to have some human interaction.
Kim Commando
Yeah, that's right. And so what are these gimmicks that employers are offering now to get people to come back to work?
Andrew Babinski
So on Reddit, they put up a post asking people, what are your offices willing to do for you to get you back to coming to the office? And some of them are absolutely crazy. One person posted that we're doing pizza parties every Thursday. It was fun at first, but now it just feels like bribery. I would not go back to the office if I lived working at home just for pizza. Jonathan posted that my office is giving free massages on Friday.
Kim Commando
Nice.
Andrew Babinski
That's an HR nightmare.
Kim Commando
That is an HR nightmare. That doesn't sound like something that would be good. You know, Google got rid of all the massages and everything.
Andrew Babinski
Yeah, Google got rid of all the cool stuff that you were known for, didn't they? One company is doing mandatory fund days where they're having trust falls and potato sack races as a way to get people into the office. This is a way to get me to actually stay at home. I don't want to go to work and have gene from accounting try and catch me. One. Office is doing a karaoke lunchtime sessions again, a reason I would stay home. Bring your pet to work. Would you ever offer bring your pet to work?
Kim Commando
Maybe that's a no.
Andrew Babinski
That's a hard no right there. Costume days. They're having random costume days. Video game sessions. And then one. This is actually one that would work. A cereal bar. Eight kinds of milk, eight kinds of cereal, and all the cereal toppings you can imagine to get people to come back to the office.
Kim Commando
Cereal. You know what? We give away cereal in the kitchen, and I don't think anybody really uses it.
Andrew Babinski
I saw. It's one little thing.
Kim Commando
Well, there's one empty. There's one full. When the other one's empty, we'll fill up the both of them. I mean, you know, we have what we have, we now have an air fryer.
Andrew Babinski
Oh, I heard about that. I heard last week it was all buzz that there was an air fryer. Didn't you, like, call everyone into the break room and unveil it?
Kim Commando
Oh, no, no, no. That was the ice tea maker. That was the iced tea maker. So instead of people having, like, to stop and wait in line, that person would be me. Okay.
Andrew Babinski
Yeah, people.
Kim Commando
Is that. Is that, you know, I got us an iced tea maker, and when I was at AJ's, I said to the guy, I said, you know, what kind of tea is that? And he said, it's passion fruit. And I said, oh, you know, can I just see the box? Because I'm just wondering what kind of tea it is. And so he showed me the box, and then I was like, I went on to Amazon. I bought the tea, and I bought the ice tea maker, and I bought plastic cups with straws so everybody can have their own AJ experience. And, you know, Wayne here, you know, Wayne is wonderful. We should call him wonderful Wayne. We should. Sure.
Andrew Babinski
He's gonna love that.
Kim Commando
I mean, we have, like, you know, Allie, the amazing content queen. You know, wonderful Wayne. We were recording and he said to me, you know, some companies in their break rooms have Starbucks. Okay, but we have AJ's. Yes.
Andrew Babinski
Is it the same, is it the same as you stopping and getting your tea?
Kim Commando
Yep.
Andrew Babinski
Oh, that's awesome.
Kim Commando
We also have an ice maker. Yes. Okay. We have an ice maker upstairs because, you know, Barry had to make sure that we always had an ice maker. I would not have put the ice maker on. I would not have done that.
Andrew Babinski
But, well, I want to try this tea now. Let's end the show so I can go get a nice iced tea.
Kim Commando
Okay, well, we're going to end the show by telling everybody that. Thank you for being here. Thanks for all the likes, comments, shares, and make sure that you tell one friend about Kim commando today. And don't forget to sign up for the newsletter over at Get Kim.com.
Andrew Babinski
Can I go get my iced tea now?
Kim Commando
All right, we're gonna charge you for it.
Andrew Babinski
What?
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