#918 - "The Boys, Alex Jones Accountability, Trump Spiritual Advisor Exposed, and Takin' Care of Biz feat. Dr. Kwane Stewart!"

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Welcome to the show. Thank you for joining us. Episode 918 of I doubt it podcast. I'm your host, Jesse Dolomore, joined today by the vacation ready Brittany page, so. That we've been in a serious tv lull for quite some time.

Brittany Page
I mean, hacks came back. That was good. It was good for like 5 seconds, and then it was over. And I was like, we finished hax. Like, yeah, we already finished it.

Yeah, I think it was only seven episodes or something. It was pretty quick. But yeah, we've been in like a tv lull, although I just read the bear is coming back, I think, next week. Yeah, and the boys came back. The boys, which is a show on Amazon, if you don't know what we're talking about.

Basically the premise of the show, I think it's based on a comic book series, but I think. So the premise of it is like, what if superheroes existed but they were morally bankrupt or just like regular people? Insecurity. They don't have nobility. They're not all like Superman, like truth, justice, and the american way.

Yeah. Insecure, sociopathic, all the different things. All the worst facets and attributes of human beings, except with the power, physically to lay waste to entire cities. Right, right. So it came back and it's season four.

I think that they're in now. And I think this is maybe the first time that the creator of the show has come out and been very political in his messaging, talking about Donald Trump, being very critical of Donald Trump in interviews. Yeah. And I think going so far as to say, like, the show isn't for you. If you, like, are put off by that or you have a problem with it, then don't watch it.

Jesse Dolomore
What's weird about it is it's always been. Always since episode fucking number one, it's been critical of conservative culture. Yes. And conservative politics. Yes.

And misogyny. And it just. What the fuck? Yes. How did you not.

Cause now there's a movement afoot to one give it bad reviews this season because right wing trolls, neckbeards, and basement dwellers are like, I'm done with this show. It's gone. Woke. Yeah. I saw some article that, you know, people are tasked with doing these write ups about, like, reviews of shows and movies, and they wrote about how the critic score is very high, but the audience score is the lowest of all the seasons, and what a problem they have to contend with.

Brittany Page
And it's like, they don't have to contend with any problem. The reason that the audience score is low is because of the overt political messaging of the show and the media press tour that has been focusing on that, alerting people who were, I don't know, operating with their, like, ten year old brains while watching the show and not able to comprehend the themes and general principles that exist. Yeah. I think it's likely the people who looked at Homelander, the superman ish character, like, they looked at him as the hero of the show who didn't like, oh, this guy is a dangerous monster. Yeah.

And I am scared for the people who aren't almost immediately understanding that Homelander is not a hero. I mean, it's akin to. And I'm gonna name somebody here. A lot of people aren't gonna like that. I'm even talking about, I guess.

Jesse Dolomore
But before Amy Schumer was an apologist for genocide, she's one who was often the recipient of this type of manufactured troll, brigading of her movies and shit, giving it just bad reviews because they don't like her. So it's the same thing that happens. Although this time it's so funny because of what we're talking about, which is they're now upset about something that's existed the entire. The entirety of all the three previous seasons. Right?

Brittany Page
Yeah. But it's a really good show. The new three episodes that were released last week were super good. And if you haven't watched it, I was hesitant to watch it. I don't really love superhero stuff.

I don't. I don't really. Yeah. Like, you don't give a shit about marvel. Yeah.

I mean, I've seen several of them, but, like, I was talking to my friends about it one time who's super into it, and he was like, do you remember this one where they did this? And I'm like, that sounds like all of them. I don't really know. I can't distinguish between the different things that have happened in the movies. And I'm not trying to be a dick.

I totally am happy for people that love it. It's just. It's not my thing. Well, I like the superhero movies, but I'm kind of glad that we're post the craze where everything was a Marvel movie, everything was DC trying to be a Marvel movie. I'm kind of glad that we're.

Jesse Dolomore
We're moving on into some more holdovers, style content films. Sure. So I was nervous to watch it because of the hero element, the superhero thing, and also the original image that was always pasted all over Amazon had the female characters, like, scantily clad, and it looked more racy than, like, a Marvel movie. And so I was like, what is this thing? And I don't really understand what's going on here.

Brittany Page
And you would always tell me, no, it's a show you would really like. And, like, that's an intentional choice to make a political or a social point. Yeah, like, the women are dressed like that to make a social point. And I think I made, like, a jerk off motion one time. I'm like, yeah, there.

It's to make a political point. You did? Cause I was just getting ready to say, and you do the jerk off motion. All right, sure. And then I kept hearing, you should watch the show.

You should watch the show. And finally I was like, hi, I think maybe I should watch the show. Enough people told me, and then I watched it. I'm like, yeah, it really is. For a social point that they're trying to make.

Jesse Dolomore
I will forego what I always do. Like when we're at dinner with friends and stuff and we talk about this, where I'm like, yeah, I said it a million times. Oh, you're gonna forego it? It sounds simple of foregoing it. No, I'm foregoing it.

I'm gonna. You're totally foregoing right now. I'm gonna explain what I'm gonna forego. Oh, I'm gonna explain what I'm not gonna say. Oh, okay.

So at these dinners that has happened multiple times, what I would say was, before going, I'm not gonna say it now, but what I would say then. Right, right. Was like, yeah, I said it a million times. And then one person extra like, oh, it's the straw that broke the camel's back. It really was.

Britney finally trusted them and just had eschewed my, my recommendation dozens of times. Yeah, I'm glad you, I'm not gonna. Say that now, but that's what I've said several times, forgoing that. That was good. So, yeah, yeah.

Brittany Page
If you haven't watched it, check that out. And also, you can laugh and marvel at the fact that so many people have seemed to miss the political messaging until it was directly spelled out for them. In the interviews with the, I guess, showrunner, I called him the creator. I don't think, which I don't think that's fair. I don't really know what he show developer or something.

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He's high up. He's either a creator or executive producer or something. Yeah. So yeah, go check that out. Finding the right materials and tech to fit your working environment can be tough.

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Jesse Dolomore
The phone number for the show to leave a voicemail at is 657-464-7609 and of course, you can email a voice memo from your smartphone to, I doubt it, at dollar more.com. So we have a voicemail from anonymous with a question about Merrick Garland. Hey, Jesse and Brittany, I just had a quick question for you, and I have not seen anybody really address this, but I think it's a question that many, many, many people want to know. What are your thoughts on Merrick Garland? And had he, or if he were to go after the insurrectionists in Congress and installed all over this country, would we be here today?

Anonymous
Do you think Garland is complicit? Thank you so much. Love you guys. Bye. I think complicit might be harsh.

Jesse Dolomore
Not. I mean, I think it's accurate when you break it down, technically. Yeah, I think he's complicit. This is something I've, I've bitched about and complained about and yelled about and screamed about on YouTube for years, especially when nothing was happening related to the, the investigation. And a lot of Democrats, a lot of your middle of the road team people who look at politics as a team sport, that nothing the Democrat does is wrong and it's always right and good and we should always defend it.

Those people, they bothered me a lot because we'd be a lot farther along in these investigations had he, Merrick Garland, named a special counsel or a special prosecutor way earlier. And because of the inaction of the Department of Justice and waiting around for the right time or whatever, we're months and months and months delayed. All of this could have been dealt with far earlier than where we are right now, with it being postponed until after the election. So, yeah, I'm very critical of how Merrick Garland handled this or, in my view, did not handle this. I think in another criticism I've made of him or an assessment of him is that I think he would have been a fantastic Supreme Court justice and is just not a good attorney general in a lot of ways.

You need a bulldog, a pit bull, someone who is fearsome and aggressive as attorney general. You don't need someone who's adjudicating every decision and looking and, you know, being a justice. And, yeah, I think he's failed us. Well. And it's similar to a lot of things, like with the Supreme Court, where they take into consideration what the public opinion is or public response or they.

Should not, but they do. Right. Or the media who tries to be, quote unquote, even handed by, quote unquote, reporting both sides. When you have a president who's not involved in criminal wrongdoing, and then you have a president who has been found guilty of criminal wrongdoing. Yeah.

Brittany Page
And there's a clear difference there. And you don't need to spend equal time talking about the republican accusations against the president for non criminal wrongdoing. It is how the media acts, though. It's, it's Donald Trump, convicted felon, 34 felony counts found unanimously guilty by a jury of his peers. And the media spends 30 seconds talking about that and then they go, okay, well, we spent 30 seconds talking about Trump.

Jesse Dolomore
Now we need to find 30 seconds of, what did Biden do? Oh, he walks slow. Let's talk about that for 30 seconds. Well, and Merrick Garland was a problem. This was a problem for Merrick Garland as well, where there were these fears of appearing biased.

Brittany Page
And so, you know, you go the extra mile to try to look like you're not biased, and that leads to inaction when you should be taking action. Rather than just not being biased. Right. He's focused on the appearance of not being biased. Right.

Which you should not be worried about if you're not being biased. Right. You're going to get those accusations anyway. Republicans are going to accuse you of being biased anyway, so it doesn't matter. That's it.

Jesse Dolomore
That is it in so many arenas relative to politics today, democrats can take this lesson as a party that it doesn't. Fuck what you just said. Republicans are going to do what they're going to do anyway. They're going to make the accusations anyway. Why, why work in service and waste expend energy on something that is non existent?

Brittany Page
Right? Fucking nonsense. So, yeah, anonymous, I'm assuming you also agree. But I certainly do. Well, and to give you some credit, Jesse, I think you actually were an early critic of Merrick Garland and his inaction.

So I know you took issue with the word complicit, but, and I think Anonymous was saying, like, they hadn't heard media figures or what have you, being critical of Merrick Garland or bringing this up. And I think you were an early critic, so much so that your, your audience, I think, didn't appreciate in the early days. Now they seem to be on board, but I think in the early days they were like, let's give him a chance, you know, ease up. You can't expect this right now. I got a lot of vitriol, a lot of.

Jesse Dolomore
Yeah, you're, you're republican showing, we know. Yeah, you're former Republican. It's showing you, it just I was calling it like it was not even as I saw it. And now I think I've. History has vindicated me.

Brittany Page
Yeah. So that was me assisting you with tooting your own horn.

Jesse Dolomore
Thank you, Brittany Page. I always appreciate the assist. You know how often I don't like to toot my own horn, so. Yeah. So thank you very much.

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Facing down pessimistic politics with realistic optimism.

Brittany Page
So some good news is that Alex Jones has been having a rough go of it. And there were, like, clips of him on his show. I don't know if you saw these, like, in the weeks leading up to this news where he would start, like, crying and, like, really losing control. And I don't know if it was performance. Yeah, that's, that's always my question.

Jesse Dolomore
I mean, Alex Jones tears, and I don't want to be the leftist tears, republican tears, but him crying, good for good, he needs to suffer a little bit of anguish for the immense damage he's done, not only just to the fabric of our society and culture, but also specifically to the families, the parents of children who were fucking slaughtered in Newtown. Yeah, I wasn't talking about him crying to solicit. No, I know that. But I would. I just, like, I'm.

It gave me joy. It brought me joy that he was crying. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm sure it did for a lot of people.

Brittany Page
And is that right? Solicit, sympathy. I had a. Did you hear me struggling with that? Because you interrupted me and said then I had to really work through.

I was like, maybe it was a sign that I wasn't using the right phrase. It's right, though, right? It's right. Okay, so Alex Jones crying, losing it a little bit, but deserves it. And he has actually been ordered to liquidate his personal assets to pay the Sandy Hook damages that he owes.

Anonymous
A major loss for conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. Federal judge in Texas ordered him to liquidate his personal assets to pay the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook elementary school massacre. The families won their defamation suits against Jones in 2021. Jones owes them nearly $1.5 billion for repeatedly falsely claiming on his Infowars media platform the mass shooting was a hoax. Here's Omar Villafranka.

Jesse Dolomore
This is an attempt at digital assassination. Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones was defiant in front of federal court, vowing that the government may shut him down, but they won't shut him up. This is probably the end of Infowars. A federal judge in Houston ordered Jones to liquidate his personal assets, worth an estimated four to $6 million, to start paying the Sandy Hook families the $1.5 billion in defamation damages he owes them. The decision will also force Jones to auction off his jewelry and gun collection.

An attorney for Jones said $2 million is already sitting in escrow for the families after Jones sold a Texas ranch while in court, another episode of the Alex Jones show aired on infowars.com comma, the platform where Jones spread his conspiracy theories. The judge ruled that the company doesn't have to liquidate its assets, but that Jones will not control the money. The whole thing is a giant. Hosts in both Texas and Connecticut found Jones liable for defamation after he called the attack fake a hoax and called grieving parents crisis actors. For Robbie Parker, whose daughter Emily was one of the 20 students killed at Sandy Hook in 2012, this case is not about money, but accountability.

The reason that accountability is important for me is because that's part of the healing process. The hearing comes the same week the survivors of the Sandy Hook massacre graduate from high school. Former classmates wore green and white pins to honor their memories, a memory Parker hopes never fades. Some of the communications between the families have been just very beautiful. And so it is touching.

And it is emotional. Infowars.com will survive for now, but Jones no longer controls the assets of the business, and his attorney says they are now preparing for a, quote, orderly liquidation for CB's Saturday morning. Omar Villafranca, Houston, Texas. All good news, or mostly good news. It is interesting that they, they really, maybe I'm just being a little biased here against the media, but when they, they put a little stank on the fact that there's borrowed about $2 million from the liquidation of his ranch and jewelry and whatever else, $2 million is nothing in terms of taking away the balance of the over $1 billion judgment against him, right?

Come on. Yeah, well, and he's using it to make more money, as you could hear in the clips that they played, where he's using it and saying, they're gonna shut down Infowars. It's gonna be the end of it. Come buy my supplements while you can, you know? And, I mean, I hope they get that money, too.

Brittany Page
I hope whatever money that they can get, they get. And you heard in that clip that the Sandy Hook kids who were first graders when Sandy Hook happened, that they are graduating high school. And this news actually happened on the same week, which was interesting, where these high school graduates were sitting down and talking to the media about their experience having survived Sandy Hook and carrying the memory of the kids that were lost forward. That happened the same week that this was announced that Alex Jones was going to be ordered to liquidate his personal assets. And I watched one interview with the Sandy Hook survivors where they talked about their memories of Sandy Hook, but also how their experience surviving that shooting has turned into advocacy.

And I found one interview that they did with George Stephanopoulos, particularly moving. So you're gonna be hearing a clip where George Stephanopoulos is initially talking. I think he's kind of reminiscing about the time period when Sandy Hook happened. I believe it was 2012 when Sandy Hook happened. And then you're going to hear from various now high school graduates who survived the Sandy Hook shooting.

Jesse Dolomore
You know, I remember coming here and thinking that if there's any, any silver lining out of this is that maybe this will shock people into changing the way we deal with all this. Yet we've seen the school shootings just increase and increase and increase every year. When you see another shooting like Uvalde, what goes through your mind? They don't need us to say, I'm. So sorry for your loss.

Anonymous
They just want change. Like, this should never have happened to us. This should never have happened to them. I just think people in power or people that have the power to make change should do it instead of the 17, 8018 year olds trying to do their work for them. What's the number one change you think we need?

Brittany Page
Regulations on AR style assault weapons? I think one of the hardest things is getting people to see eye to eye on it, and I think that stops a lot of regulations and legislation, which, unfortunately is costing more and more lives every day. Does it make you think adults have let you down? Definitely. I really thought Cynioc would, you know, shock people and wake everybody up, but, you know, it just keeps happening over and over and over again.

Jesse Dolomore
If there's one thing you want people to know about this experience and what it's meant to you, what is it? As unfortunate as it is, it is it's going to happen to someone else. And it's going to keep happening to. Someone else until people like us have to make the change we worry about. One day we'll have kids, and I don't want to send my kids to school in the way our world is.

I mean, the tragedy never ends. The friends, family who were lost that day, the smiling faces that should be filling the seats in your classroom, the parents who should be able to watch their kids graduate, get married. The kids will never be able to hug their parents again. It's never over. Like Emma said earlier, we don't want, you know, I'm sorry.

And, you know, this is so terrible it happened to you. Like, it's past that. You know, it's happened too many times. Your prayers honestly don't mean anything. It doesn't help me.

I've had to deal with this for ten years. It'll never get easier, no matter how many times I talk about it. And honestly, it's just time for it to change. No more. You know?

Sorry. So I don't know if you can hear it, but definitely when you watch it, you can see that when they are talking about this, there's a lot of emotion that comes up. In fact, one in particular looked like he was on the verge of tears. I haven't seen the clip, but absolutely, I could hear the emotion. Yeah.

Brittany Page
And I think that this isn't their first time talking to the media. I've seen several different clips, and I think they've been kind of in this space for a while. Like, this is not the first year they've done this. This is not the first year they've sat down for an interview. Still super raw.

And it is. Yeah. And I mean, think of how difficult that is. But they feel a responsibility to carry the memories forward and to use this experience to make a difference. And what George Stephanopoulos said there is so true that everyone thought that.

That this will be the moment where there will be a change and we're still here. Yeah. I also found it interesting and fills me with confidence that moving into the future, it was something they said about, you know, it's going to end up that people like us are going to have to be the ones to change it, because the old guard, the. The adults in the room, they're not doing anything about it. Both Democrats and Republicans, that no one's fucking do anything about it.

Right. And I realize there are political obstacles, but there hasn't been the. The full court press that there should be. And it is nice that now we're starting to get some Gen Z elect. You know, what's.

Jesse Dolomore
What's the guy's name from Florida? Maxwell Frost. Maxwell Frost. The first Gen Z member of Congress. This first generation of constant active shooter drill students are going to be entering Congress, and it's going to be a different situation.

I mean, obviously, there's going to be your right wing young folks that end up in Congress, too. But I think that there is going to be a culture shift, and there will be now. It's no reason to like, well, we'll let the. The next generation take care of it. We need to be dealing with it now.

And it's a. It's a crime. It's a moral failing that we have not after Newtown, after Vegas, that we've done fucking nothing. It's just disgusting after Uvalde, just goddamn gross. It is interesting that soon there will be a.

Brittany Page
Well, there is a growing majority right now of people that have lived their entire lives in fear of a mass shooting taking place at their school. And think of the number of mass shootings that have even happened in the past week at the splash pad in Detroit. Or, you know, I mean, there's been so many that maybe you haven't even heard of them. And that all has ripple effects of people that either were directly involved in that shooting, people that were friends with the people in the shooting, or family members of the people in the shooting. Those are ripple effects where people who are personally impacted, whether it's because they were involved personally or they know someone.

And that is the thing that energizes people and gets them involved and motivates them. Unfortunately, you know, unfortunately, it has to take that. But, yeah, it is something that makes. You hopeful and listen, this is a direct, I mean, the added pain, the pain that has just been compounded on this community and these families was, was done largely, I almost said solely, but very much largely because of Alex Jones, who harassed these families, whose supporters were encouraged to go stalk these families. There was a father that ended up committing suicide because of this harassment, that families that have had to move dozens of times from place to place to place because they're being, their, their homes are being surveilled by these conspiracy theorist idiots.

Jesse Dolomore
Alex Jones has no right to anything. Everything he owns should be taken from him and he should die lonely and fucking destitute. Yeah, don't at me, Morgan. Well, we would love to know what you think about that. You can at us 657-464-7609 or send an email to I doubt it at dollar more.com.

Brittany Page
so Anthony Fauci is making the rounds. I think it was last week when he got yelled at by Marjorie Taylor Green, where she said he should be in prison and he shouldn't have the title of doctor. He's mister Fauci. What a burn. Ooh, crimes against humanity.

Jesse Dolomore
She said, yeah, he, listen, this is another guy who's subject to her. He has to travel with a fucking security detail because he still has his life threatened by psychos at the behest of other psychos like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Alex Jones. Yeah. And he talked about it at that hearing where Marjorie Taylor Greene was berating him because, and I think it's particularly upsetting for him, this element of it, where his daughters are. Yeah.

Brittany Page
In harm's way now, too. And I just find it very difficult to not like Doctor Anthony Fauci. I think he seems to just be a genuinely good guy, and he's making the rounds because he just wrote a book and I think it's called on call. Get it? Doctor Anthony Fauci.

It's his autobiography on a doctor's journey in public service. But he's starting to reveal more details about his experiences with COVID And of course, we know, we remember the days of COVID when he was part of the Trump administration, often appearing at press conferences with Donald Trump, attempting to walk this line of not upsetting Trump to the point where he's going to lose his job, but also trying to counter the misinformation that Donald Trump would give directly in his presence. Yeah. And I think, let me, let me, let me give you, provide you some cover. It's not just about him losing his job.

Jesse Dolomore
It's about somebody who's uniquely qualified to. To shepherd the country through a pandemic. And if we lose him, we lose vast institutional knowledge and understanding of how to run this thing. And it would have been a very grave situation had he lost his job, for sure, more so than it already ended up being, for sure. And so he went on, Rachel Maddow, to talk about his book.

Brittany Page
And there was one specific moment where he talked about Donald Trump's knowledge of vaccines and the flu vaccine. And. Oh, my God, you guys, get ready. You describe something that I had, I had understood sort of in a pointillist way, but I'd never understood it kind of as a pattern before, which was his continued references to the flu. It did seem, the way that you described it, that President Trump didn't understand some of the basics about the flu and that it's a different virus than Covid.

Jesse Dolomore
He said to you that he didn't see why he would have to get a flu shot if he didn't have the flu. He didn't understand that it. It was preventative and not treatment. That's true. He also said at NIH, why can't we just use the flu vaccine to prevent Covid?

Do you think he does not know what a vaccine is? I think now, after all of the things we've told him, the thing that I think underlies this, Rachel, is that he wanted it so much to be like the flu, because historically, the flu peaks and it goes away. In March, April, it's gone. And then you could go on with the election season. It has a season, but it wasn't doing that.

It wasn't going away. So he kept on saying, it's going to disappear like magic. And that's when I had to start saying, no, I'm sorry, but that's not going to happen. And I had to do that publicly. And then forever the optimist, apparently.

Brittany Page
I know how remarkable that he still has this frame of mind where he's like, I think Donald Trump was thinking that he wanted it to be like the flu, because historically, the flu has the ebbs and flows where there's peaks, and then it's like, yeah, that's not. I don't think that's what was motivating Donald Trump. I don't think it was like, the historical elements of what the flu virus is like versus Covid. I mean, nobody should be shocked that Donald Trump didn't understand how a vaccine works and what it does. And why should I get a flu shot if I don't have the flu?

Jesse Dolomore
That he doesn't understand this preventative, but it's still very alarming that the president of the United States, it was such an abject, dumb fuck, just a child brain. And this is what people, many people want to put back in there. Yeah, it's scary because, yeah, you don't, you don't need the president to be Doctor Anthony Fauci. You don't need him to have decades in public service, decades as a scientist, decades dealing with various diseases and public health crises. But you would expect that there is some base level of knowledge, especially by the time you get to 70, right, or at least figured some stuff out.

Or at least have an understanding and acceptance of what your, your limitations are, and then surround yourself with people who. Do know and listen to them. But instead, Donald Trump surrounds himself with the worst of the worst of the worst, whether that be advisors like Steve Bannon and others, or getting ready to implement Project 2025 by the sinister group, this shadowy secret group within the Heritage foundation or even religious leaders. It really is. It is alarming and something more people need to pay attention to.

Brittany Page
Yeah. Well, as part of this interview, Rachel Maddow put a quote up from Anthony Fauci's new book. And he's talking in this moment that I'm going to read about. And Donald Trump pulling him aside and basically, like, instructing him on how he should comport himself and speak to the public. Yeah.

And so this is Donald Trump speaking to Doctor Anthony Fauci as written by Doctor Anthony Fauci in his book, quote, you've got to give them hope. He went on, I like you, but so many people, not only in the White House, but throughout the country, hate you because of what you are doing. I'm going to win this fucking election by a landslide. Just wait and see. I always did things my way, and I always win, no matter what all these other fucking people think.

Jesse Dolomore
And so it's not even about COVID It's not about the prospect of losing, you know, a million and a quarter Americans lives. It's about you just wait and see. I'm going to win this election. Yes, great point. Because there was another moment where Anthony Fauci was talking about how he, like, stepped up to the podium and had to correct something that Donald Trump had just said, and that he was very nervous to do that, but that he felt it was too important that he couldn't just.

Brittany Page
He had to correct this information. So he stepped to the podium and he said, no, that's not true to the press, contradicting something Donald Trump had just said, while Donald Trump's looking at him over his shoulder. And he said when they left the press briefing room, he was nervous for, like, what wrath he was gonna get. Yeah. But Donald Trump stood in front of a tv and said, look at these ratings.

Look at how many people are watching this. So he operates from a completely different place. It wasn't about the impact on the country. It wasn't about the loss of life. It wasn't about giving people correct information about what was happening.

It's. Look at how much attention I'm getting. Yeah. It's. It might be the most scary thing of all about Donald Trump, because that is what motivates him.

Jesse Dolomore
And it's like a child that any attention is good. Right. Whether it be brought via bad behavior or good behavior, who fucking cares? Everybody's looking at me. I know.

Brittany Page
Imagine that he turns on the tv and they're like, the caption says Donald Trump busted for raw dogging a porn star, allegedly. And he's like, look at my ratings. This is so great. He's immune from the shame that one would feel. I mean, listen, bringing it full circle here to our original topic in the intro, talking about the boys and, like a homelander type, it's the same thing.

Jesse Dolomore
Imagine someone who has the worst characteristics of anybody, but has been imbued with vast power. And that's Donald Trump. Yeah. And speaking of Donald Trump. So Donald Trump has various spiritual advisors.

Brittany Page
I think that you cover some of them on your YouTube channel. Yeah. It's another facet of individuals he surrounds himself with that are the worst of the worst. Yeah. More full circle.

Yeah. Yes. Well, there's, there's a pastor of one of the country's biggest churches who Donald Trump also once called a spiritual advisor, and he is admitting to sexually abusing a twelve year old. This is Robert Morris. He's the pastor of Texas's Gateway church.

And I chose this news package in particular because there's going to be some language that is used throughout it that, that is particularly disturbing on the media's part in terms of what they are massaging and delivering into people's ear holes to have them, like, accept as reality. But as you're listening to the clip, just know this is one of Donald Trump's apparently spiritual advisors. Megachurch founder and pastor Robert Morris has admitted to moral failings following accusations of sexual abuse of a child published online this past Friday. Our Andrea Lucia reports. Church leaders say they were aware of what happened.

Jesse Dolomore
So God heals, God redeems. Based in Southlake, Gateway Church is one of the country's largest mega churches, so. You can't redeem yourself. With about 100,000 people attending every weekend and nine locations spread throughout north Texas, founder and senior pastor Robert Moores reaches even larger audiences in a weekly program posted online and broadcast in more than 190 countries. It's been pretty devastating for Cindy Klemershire.

Anonymous
Seeing his influence grow has been difficult. How on earth could anyone let him be in leadership when they knew what he did to me? She was twelve years old when she says Morris began molesting her. He and his wife were friends of her parents who would often stay over. And the abuse, she says, continued for four and a half years.

He said you can never tell anyone because it will ruin everything. In a statement from the church this weekend, Morris admits to what he describes as inappropriate sexual behavior with a young lady for several years in his twenties. A young lady? I was not a young lady. I was a little girl.

Jesse Dolomore
I was twelve. The admission came after a blog called the Wartburg Watch shared Klemerscheidt story. Morris himself describes kissing and petting, not intercourse. Under current law, that's still behavior that could qualify as continuous sexual abuse of a young child, a crime punishable by life in prison. Clemenshire says she eventually told her father, who demanded Morris step down from his position at a church that's now Gateway's Grand Prairie campus.

Anonymous
Morris says for two years he did step down to receive counsel, counseling and ministry before returning in 1989 with the full blessing of the elders. Decades later, Clemenshire says it's a relief her story is finally out. Well, I definitely think the consequences are probably starting. I mean, people know the truth. I know that there's got to be consequences.

In a statement, church elders said that Morris has been open and forthright with, with them about what they describe as a moral failure on his part and that he has in the decades since, quote, walked in purity, no criminal charges have ever been filed in connection to this and it's unlikely any will be as the statute of limitations has likely run out on any that could be reporting live here in Southlake. ANDREA LUCIA, CB's news Texas so my. Thing is, I don't necessarily mind if reporters are going to quote him as calling it a moral failure, but I would appreciate more context for that. Like every time you're going to repeat his excuse, that's what it is, it's an excuse. He's saying that he's calling his molestation of a child a moral failure.

Jesse Dolomore
Yeah. So I think that needs to be like if you're going to quote him, he's saying it's a moral failure. But we just want to remind you that this is sexual abuse of a minor is what he's being accused of doing. Like they need to put it in context repeatedly instead of just repeatedly saying moral failure. Well, also when he says this is what the media just did here, he says that it was inappropriate sexual behavior with a young lady and then they allowed the victim be the one to have to correct.

I wasn't a young lady. I was a little girl. Right. Rather than lend the report the credibility and weight of that being said from the reporter, they just allow it to be a he said, she said in the piece. Right?

Fucking failure. Zachary. Well, and if you want to talk about a moral failure, let's talk about the Republicans who want to continue to pretend as though that they care about. Pedophilia, the grooming and all of the nonsense, right? When how many articles come out like this about church officials on an ongoing basis across the country where you have people that are in charge that said, and yeah, they like temporarily stepped down from their position of power and we ministered to them.

Right. I'm sorry, what? Yeah, what? That's not a consequence. That's not accountability.

Brittany Page
That's not accountability. That's imaginary bullshit. You're covering for him. You're protecting him. And the, the accuser in this case, Clemens Shire, she said, quote, I don't think it's repentant when someone calls a twelve year old young lady and tries to just dismiss what happened as just some heavy petting.

Jesse Dolomore
Yeah. That's not contrition. I don't believe that's repentance. There's no child on earth that any person should ever do that to. It's just unacceptable.

Brittany Page
There's zero excuse. And you can even hear them trying to make excuses for him, the church elders in their statement, where they're like referring to something that happened over 35 years ago when he was in his. Twenties and since then he's lived in purity. And do we know? Do we don't know?

Do we know that? Yeah. And what should we assume? We should assume that someone who was an adult who was molesting a child may have continued to do that, likely. Continued to do that.

Jesse Dolomore
I mean, the recidivism rates of this type of crime are not, it's not a positive thing. Especially by the way, when put in a church where they have easy access to children, where they have power over children, where children believe that because of his position of power, he is imbued and granted with some sort of special recognition from God, cloaked all in secrecy. Too, because it's the church that wants to protect itself. Yeah, it's disturbing in so many ways. But let's all remember that that's Donald Trump's spiritual advisor.

Brittany Page
So I'm sure we'll be hearing from Marjorie Taylor Greene about that and about how this guy should be imprisoned. And Alex Jones, who, you know, constantly bangs on about this, the cabal of childblusters and the adrenochrome that they're trying to eat and drink and the babies. All right. So we would love to know what you think about that. 657-464-7609 or idout it@dollimore.com.

Jesse Dolomore
Dot the whole power structure is coming down. Number one show in the world right now. So sticking with Donald Trump. Donald Trump, as reported by Axios, is warning Republicans to talk about abortion correctly. And if you're wondering what that means or you can't already pick up what that means, he's talk about it in.

A way that is not definitive at all and doesn't make any fucking sense. That's probably his advice. He's wanting them to adopt, according to the reporting from Axios, a measured tone on the campaign trail and to embrace exceptions to restrictions on the procedure. Now, I just want to quickly note that this is not because of principles, right. This is not because, not because of firmly held beliefs.

Brittany Page
This is because of his fears about Republicans electability, given what we know about how popular abortion rights are and how Republicans continue to lose at the ballot box. And there was a clear example of this where there's a Republican running for Senate in Nevada. Sam Brown won the primary. Donald Trump only endorsed him when it was pretty clear he was going to be the winner. Yeah.

And he's running against, I believe, Jackie Rosen in that state. And I'm going to play this clip. This is from three months ago. So I know Donald Trump just told Republicans to start doing this last week, but this is an example of how Republicans are starting to do this. So Sam Brown, Republican running for Senate in Nevada, has always been anti abortion, has always called himself pro life, staunchly so.

But now he's trying to soften his image, including by trotting out his wife who previously had an abortion. So here's a clip from three months. Ago now to the race for 2024. And an issue Democrats hope drives voters to the polls. Abortion rights.

Jesse Dolomore
And now some Republicans, after suffering losses on abortion since the fall of Roe v. Wade, are taking a softer stance. Here's Stephanie Gosk. West Point grad and Purple Heart recipient Sam Brown will most likely be the republican candidate for Senate in swing state Nevada. The Democrats are already attacking, but extremists like Sam Brown have fought to strip away women's rights.

Anonymous
In an interview with NBC News Natasha Korecki, Brown clarifying where he stands on abortion. I would not support a federal abortion band. Nevada abortion is legal up to 24 weeks. I'm not here to try and change anything about our existing law. His position shaped, he says, by his wife's experience.

Brittany Page
I just felt like I was all by myself processing this major event.

Jesse Dolomore
All by myself. In 2008, at age 24, former army lieutenant Amy Brown got an abortion, a decision she now regrets that she says left her shattered soon after she met Sam. He's helped me process it with compassion and with empathy. The former army captain suffered severe burns from an IED in Afghanistan. Amy was his dietician, helping him recover, while at the same time, she says he was helping her.

Women should always feel loved, supported. Part of that support is knowing that there are other options beyond abortion. Brown, like most Republicans, supports the overturning of Roe v. Wade, which has become a major political challenge and is largely to blame for the party's lackluster midterm results. Now abortion is front and center again in this election.

We need to make sure that we're caring for women during pregnancy and after pregnancy. Republicans in some places, changing the message. Stephanie Gosk, NBC News fucking failure on. The part of NBC News, Republicans and Subway's change of the hubble. Why don't you give specifics about exactly how they've changed?

Why don't you give specifics about exactly how Sam Brown has changed his opinion? Why do you lead off the article or the, the news package saying that he's a Purple Heart recipient and he's a burn victim from an IED with his brave and valiant service in Afghanistan, serving his country like a patriot. Fuck off, NBC News fuck straight off. So I'm very happy that you had that reaction. Why don't they just get out and massage his fucking ball sack, too?

Brittany Page
You know, this is so gross. I really, I hope that this show in some ways is doubling as pissing me off. I'll tell you. That's what it's doing, is doubling as kind of what on the media used to do. I don't know if they still do because I don't listen to it anymore.

That's not, I'm not trying to be like, I'm not criticizing them I just, I don't really listen to it anymore. But on the media used to be my favorite, favorite podcast because it was taking a look, a critical look at the way that media covered various stories. And when I'm planning the show, I listen to so many different news packages. And I swear to God, it is so fucking rare that I hear a news package where I'm like, wow, this was done very well. It was, it was put into the proper context.

It was, you know, the fact it was factual. Everything is here that it needed to be. This was almost like the campaign paid for it. Yeah. That's how it felt when I was listening to it.

And, I mean, I appreciate that they gave some context in terms of Republicans have suffered all these losses on abortion. They really led with that. Lester Holt led with that. I appreciate the Purple Heart thing. Yeah.

But, and there was still a lot of, you know, like he's saying women should always feel loved and supported and they should know that there's other options beyond abortion. Oh, interesting that you're really gonna go with that when you're trying to act like you wouldn't be radical about abortion restrictions. You haven't been radical. Yeah. And you're, you're still emphasizing that.

Yeah, I'm sitting here with my wife. She had an abortion. I'm super, like, not radical about it, but, like, I'm gonna talk about how there's still other options. Guys, let's prioritize that. So remember that Donald Trump has counseled republican lawmakers and candidates to talk correctly about abortion.

And when he says that, it means that the position that many Republicans have taken have cost them politically, electorally, and that they need to bounce back from that. And so you're going to see Republicans being straight up liars, straight up dishonest about what their previous positions mean, including going so far as Sam Brown here to trot out their wives, if their wives have had abortions. Yeah. So be on the lookout for that and the ways that the media is going to assist in that effort as well. Let's continue to talk about the media and their mistakes and how they are.

Jesse Dolomore
They're just not doing a good job on a host of different issues. Climate change being another one. Yeah. Have you seen the movie don't look. Wait, don't look up.

Don't look up. Yeah. Adam McKay with Jennifer Lawrence and Leonardo DiCaprio. And they're like two scientists who know that a comet is coming to destroy the earth or something. And they're tasked with going out on these various media shows and trying to convince people that this is happening.

Yeah. And there's scenes where they're, like, talking to these, like, morning show hosts who are super peppy and like, you know, having a good time. They're trying to play the role of. Over caffeinated and they're trying to, like, convince them that this really serious thing is happening that they should take seriously. I had a moment where I thought of this movie when I watched this news package about the heat wave across the country.

Brittany Page
And I'm wondering if you guys are going to get similar vibes. Well, a dangerous heat wave is expected to begin today, putting nearly 70 million people under heat alerts. It's starting in the midwest where highs will reach into the mid nineties from Chicago to Pittsburgh. And then tomorrow that heat moves into the northeast. So joining me now with more on that sweltering, the sweltering conditions is Tara Molina.

Anonymous
She is a climate reporter for CB's News Chicago. Thanks for joining us this, this morning. You look very cool right now. I know this is, this is just the beginning, though, because it's pretty early. Forecasters are expecting some places to hit record temperatures this week.

Where should residents really be on high alert? Ann Marie, good morning. You said a yourself we are expecting sweltering heat. And while it's lovely that I look cool this morning, we're already feeling that heat here in Chicago. We know that the Midwest is under what's called a heat dome right now.

That's heat that's really trapped in by continued blazing sun and their temperatures that we're going to continue to see rise throughout the day here. What sets this heat dome apart for not only Chicago but across, really the entire Midwest region is that it continues into those overnight hours. So when we see the sun go down and typically we kind of get some relief, we see things cool down, we're going to see those high temperatures continue for a real time. Look at this right now here in Chicago. Again, we're already feeling this heat.

I want to have you take a look at this sidewalk thermometer. We've got this set up here right outside our studio. We're at just over 80 degrees right now. It feels hotter than 80 degrees because remember, we're seeing record kind of humidity with this heat dome across the Midwest. But we're expecting that thermometer to tick up right around to the mid nineties today.

And those temperatures will remain here in Chicago. And for millions across the Midwest that are currently under heated buyers advisories throughout this week, we really want to keep an eye out right now for heat related illness. More than 1200 people die every year from heat related illnesses. They are completely preventable. So cities like Chicago right now are efforting real educational campaigns to keep people aware.

And really what you want to know, not only looking out for signs of, you know, nausea, fatigue related to those illnesses, is to stay inside as much as you can, just like we have with those really cold days here in the Midwest. Those extreme temperatures we see, try to limit your time outdoors. Anne Marie Tara, I think that's really, really good advice, especially, you know, when you're in a city, an urban area, sometimes you don't have the trees to help you cool down and it can get baking hot. I, for one, was surprised it was already so hot in Chicago. Thank you so much.

Jesse Dolomore
Giggle, giggle, giggle. 1200 people die every year.

Brittany Page
Well, and also, so we have seen record high temperatures this year. Yeah. Yeah. More than three quarters of the global population is experiencing at least one month of extreme heat. We also had that, like hundred hundreds of days of heat wave.

What was it? 421 straight days of a heat wave in the north Atlantic. Not only that, but in Arizona and in Texas, they are, they're set to break 128 year or maybe even more year record of the high temperature. I mean, it's, shit is happening right before our eyes. That's not a gradual change that's taking place.

Jesse Dolomore
And they're over here. You look really cool. Yeah, my java. I mean, I wonder if we're just like in a bad place right now. And people are like, yeah, that wasn't really a big deal, guys.

Brittany Page
Like, I appreciated that she was like, here's ways to stay safe in the heat. But again, the context, right, of your job is to inform, and there are people, there are elected officials that will mock climate change, that mock global warming. Yeah, that, again, the people who surround Donald Trump and act like it's a, it's a chinese hoax is what Donald Trump has said. Right. And it's scary because not only are people going to die, but we are, we're also going to have like, a horrible hurricane season.

We're, we're expecting because of the ocean temperatures, the tropical cyclones, the active hurricane seasons that make them bigger and stronger. And all of that is concerning. And instead of, like, putting it into context of we could be doing something about climate change if we didn't have people who walked outside when it's snowing and go, global warming. Look at this, guys. You know, if only.

Jesse Dolomore
Well, it's, it really is. I mean, listen, I realize that they've got caps on segment time and everything else, but they could have dedicated some time to tying this to climate change. Absolutely. That this is obviously, there's a difference between weather and climate, but weather is affected by climate and they just, they dropped the ball here. It's just for me, it's not as egregious as the other shit with the, the sexual molestation and sexual abuse of an eleven year old.

But we're getting real close here. Yeah, real close. So we would love to know what you think about that. 657-464-7609 or you can send an email to idout itollimore.com taken care of biz doctor Quan Stewart doctor Quan Stewart is a veterinarian who works with people who are experiencing homelessness, that have pets. And this is part of a almost ten minute feature that CNN put out.

Brittany Page
So I only chose a small segment to play from it. But I think after you hear it, you're going to want to go and track down the whole thing. But this is Doctor Quan Stewart talking about his work with Project Street Vet, which he created working with the homeless. How you doing, man? My name is Quan Stewart.

Jesse Dolomore
James. James. I'm a veterinarian. If it's okay with you, I'd like to take a look. I think most of us, if we're being honest with ourselves, when we see someone on the streets with a pet, the first thing we think is poor pet.

Right. I had that thought. Her hips have been bothering her for a little bit. She's been sore when she walks too much. But I will say this about the people I've met who have pets on the streets.

They are some of the most remarkable pet parents I've ever met. It makes me feel good. He loves me and I know he loves me. I've seen people give up their last meal for their pet and people who have $3 for their name. And after I'm done with the treatment, they will try and give me that $3.

Brittany Page
This is your partner? Obviously. He's my best friend. I can treat about 80% of the cases I see out of a really small bag. Well, you do vaccines too.

Jesse Dolomore
I do vaccines. Cause you need her to. Oh, that's really cool. It's antibiotics, it's anti inflammatories, flea and tick, heartworm prevention. It's all there.

Let me take a listen here. It doesn't matter what your situation is or what your background or past is. I see a pet in need and I see a person who cares for them dearly, who just needs some help. I'm gonna go right here. It's at no cost to them.

It's free. That's it, buddy. You're a good boy.

I think this was part of the CNN heroes. Like, they do compilation pieces like this on individuals that are up for that award. And he won 2022. Oh, did he? Yeah.

So good. Yeah. Really? So good. And listen, I'm, I've been one of those people that have looked at homeless people and who have pets and just like judge, though, they shouldn't have a pet that blah, blah, blah.

And usually I don't, I don't listen to these clips that Britney puts together until we do the show. This is the first time hearing them just like you. But we did watch this on, on tv together. And there's another part in the clip where he does talk about a pet doesn't need some life of luxury and a big house and they just want to be with a person that they love, that they're loyal to. And they don't look at it as, oh, I'm homeless.

I'm living a terrible life. They're, they're happy and healthy as long as they're healthy. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

Brittany Page
I want, I wanted to talk about a comment I got on my video, but it's kind of negative. But I wanted to talk about it because it's related to this. It isn't specifically about this, but it was someone writing about homelessness and pets. Can I briefly talk about it? Of course.

It might ruin the mood, but so someone wrote from what I'm seeing in Los Angeles, the homeless are living in tents with dogs. They are breeding and selling the puppies for drug money. They beat the dogs when they are high. Rescues go to the tent settlements and try to purchase the dogs from the people. Sometimes they sell the dogs to the rescues and sometimes they put up a fight.

Jesse Dolomore
Wait, how did, how did that sentence. Start that comment from what I'm seeing in Los Angeles. So they're going to the homeless encampments and they're watching these homeless people breed dogs. They're watching the homeless people beat the doctor. They're seeing this with their own eyes.

They're reporting. How can you refute this, Brittany? This is a YouTube comment. They don't lie in YouTube comments. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Brittany Page
So there's obviously a lot of problems with this, but I wanted to juxtapose this with the clip that you just heard because a lot of people do have judgment about the unhoused having pets, having animals. And I think go so far as to believe things like this. Now listen, there may very well be an individual who is unhoused in Los Angeles who is breeding their animal and beating their animal. Sure. Let's take, let's even say that's true, that that's happening.

That also happens with people who are housed. There's people who live in homes and they are breeding their puppies and selling them for drug money and possibly beating them. That's also happening for people who live in homes. Yeah, but it's okay because they have a home, right? This commenter would.

Jesse Dolomore
Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, of course that happens. But they have homes, so it's okay. Right. And so it's like, I would just caution people when you start, like, attributing a characteristic to an entire population of people. And I think we're more likely to do this with oppressed populations, with populations like the homeless, where you're like, oh, they're doing this.

Brittany Page
You know, when there's no, there may be some people that are doing that, but that's not the entire population of people who are unhoused. Like you just said fucking brilliantly, I'm glad that you talked about the comment because if the thing that you're saying is so negative that they're doing this, if that also can be applied to people who aren't in their situation, like, they have a home, then shut the fuck up. Right. Yeah. That's just a human characteristic, not a homeless characteristic.

Exactly, exactly. God damn. Yeah. So I really appreciate this, doctor. I mean, it's a beautiful mission.

It's a beautiful example of someone who saw a need and really went to work. And the organization is called Project Street Vet. It's a nonprofit. And if you want to see more, you definitely can check out the links that I will have down below for Project street vet. And, yeah, Doctor Stewart.

Jesse Dolomore
Taking care of biz, not just taking care of biz for pets. Absolutely. There's a therapeutic value for these human beings. Oh, for sure. Own and love these animals to be.

Brittany Page
Treated with respect as well and not to be, you know, to have a vet come up to you and not say, what are you doing with this animal? You don't have enough resources to take care of this dog, but to be like, I'm gonna help you take care of your pet better also, like, where's the line? I know we're continuing to talk about it, but where's the line? Like, how poor can you be when you're not allowed to have a pet? Like, when what other things does poverty disqualify you for?

Jesse Dolomore
Just fuck off anyway, right? Right. I guess we'll just leave it at fuck off, right? We love you guys. We appreciate you.

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#918 - "The Boys, Alex Jones Accountability, Trump Spiritual Advisor Exposed, and Takin' Care of Biz feat. Dr. Kwane Stewart!"

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