Last Looks: Merlin: The Return

Primary Topic

This episode is a comedic critique of the film "Merlin: The Return," exploring its plot, production, and the bizarre elements that make it a subject of amusement and bewilderment.

Episode Summary

In this episode of "How Did This Get Made?", hosts Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, and Jason Mantzoukas delve into the quirky and puzzling movie "Merlin: The Return." The hosts, along with their audience, revel in dissecting the film's odd choices, from outdated special effects to confusing plot decisions. They humorously question the film's historical inaccuracies and the peculiar persistence of ancient characters in modern settings. Throughout the episode, the hosts engage with listener submissions and corrections, adding a layer of interactive humor as they discuss everything from the film's budget myths to Merlin's anachronistic presence in a contemporary village.

Main Takeaways

  1. The film's anachronisms provide much of the comedic material for the episode.
  2. Listener interactions play a significant role in the episode, bringing additional insights and corrections.
  3. The hosts enjoy exploring absurdities in the film's production and plot.
  4. The episode underscores the charm of engaging with 'bad' movies.
  5. The discussion is light-hearted, with a focus on entertainment over criticism.

Episode Chapters

1. Introduction

The hosts introduce the movie and set the tone for a humorous critique. They engage with the movie's oddities, setting up the episode’s comedic exploration. Paul Scheer: "Merlin the Return, a movie that discord user Mister Dolly Parton thinks could have also been titled Bowl Cuts and Broomsticks."

2. Listener Interactions

The hosts discuss listener-submitted corrections and fun facts, adding depth and interaction to the episode. Paul Scheer: "Now it's time for corrections and omissions. Cause everybody makes mistakes, even the best of us, even aristosthenes and Copernicus."

3. Deep Dive into Movie Details

An in-depth look at specific scenes and elements that fans found bizarre or hilarious. Paul Scheer: "Merlin stayed on earth for 1500 years without ever getting contemporary clothes."

4. Conclusion and Teasers

The hosts wrap up their discussion and tease the next episode, maintaining listener interest. Paul Scheer: "All right, coming up after the break, Jason will join the pod to chat about podcasts that we are currently loving."

Actionable Advice

  • Enjoy the absurd. Embrace and laugh at the absurdities in movies as a way to enhance your viewing experience.
  • Engage with communities. Join discussions on forums or podcast communities to share your thoughts and enjoy collective humor.
  • Explore the history. For films that play with historical elements, looking up real historical facts can enhance your understanding and amusement.
  • Create content. Consider blogging or creating your own podcast episodes about your favorite 'bad' movies.
  • Keep it light. When discussing films, maintain a light-hearted approach to keep the conversation enjoyable for everyone involved.

About This Episode

Jason joins Paul to test their knowledge of movie wizards when they play "The Wiz Quiz" before chatting about podcasts they're currently loving. Plus, Paul responds to your corrections and omissions from Merlin: The Return, shares a bonus scene from the Merlin live show, and announces next week's movie.

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Transcript

Paul Scheer
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When were bananas invented and why? King Arthur should have known about wheels. All this and more on todays. How did this get made? Last looks hit the theme.

Jason Mantzoukas
From the California accent of Jason Statham to the giant Joe of Robert Zidane, we proudly present to you a universe containing five stars, proprietors of treasures. What we are how did this get made? By law cliche. How did this get made? Who the hell got paid?

Sure enough, chasing juniper, we're the ones that have to watch em. We've got to watch them on a bus or a train or the middle seat of an airplane where people think that they are going insane. Hello to all you medium moms and pint sized girls. I'm your ageless wizard, Paul Scheer. And welcome two how did this get made?

Paul Scheer
Last looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Merlin the Return, a movie that discord user Mister Dolly Parton thinks could have also been titled Bowl Cuts and Broomsticks. Oh, I like that. Later in the show, Jason will stop by to play a game and chat about all the podcasts that we are currently loving. And I will also share an exclusive deleted scene from our Merlin the return show. And as always, I will reveal the next movie on the podcast.

But first things first, a big shout out to Tom McWaters for that killer opening theme. Tom, bring in the heat. I love it. If you love these songs as much as I love these songs, but you think I can do better because that really is the american way. Why don't you send a last looks theme song to how did this get made@earwolf.com?

comma. But keep em short. 15 to 20 seconds is best. And people, my book is still available, just like Jason is still in the dictator. You can get the audiobook, you can get the hardcover, you can get the Kindle is a New York Times bestseller.

I appreciate everybody who has bought it already. I appreciate the support of the indie bookstores who put it out in front. If you want to get a signed copy, you can check out my website where all the copies I have signed are across the country, or at least in certain pockets. But if you want a personalized copy, you head to Chevalier's bookstore online. You tell them what you want me to write, I will write it, and they will send it to you for no additional fee.

All right, now let's get into it. Last week, we talked at length about Merlin the return. We had questions, and we might have even missed a few things. So here's your chance to set a straight fact check us if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions.

Action Jackson Five
Now it's time for corrections and omissions. Cause everybody makes mistakes, even the best of us, even aristosthenes and Copernicus. They were so dumb, they thought the earth was a globe that went around the sun. Corrections and omissions. Thank you, action Jackson Five.

Paul Scheer
Probably the only theme that we've ever received to correct Copernicus and set the record straight that the earth is, in fact, flat. That's right. This is now a flat Earth podcast. All right, we're going to the discord. Gt 75 writes, I want to talk about the ambush on the unusually slow truck that we see as an introduction to Arthur.

Carts and wagons existed long before medieval times, and a king certainly would have traveled with them in his party. Now, Arthur certainly should have recognized that a wheeled vehicle is something man made and not a dragon, especially when there were people in it. Well, Gt 75, we talked all about that. As a matter of fact, it was part of our video clip of the week. But yes, you are right.

And I guess I didn't put that all together. He has seen wheels. I mean, I don't think this movie's doing that much research. I mean, look at the hairstyles. Sean McBee writes, while it was mentioned that Merlin stayed on earth for 1500 years without ever getting contemporary clothes, no one mentioned that he also is just going by Merlin.

That's right, the entire time. And he's presumably been in this village for 1500 years. I mean, given its proximity to where Arthur and the knights of the roundtable were awakened, it seems like this village would be aware of Merlin and the arthurian legend. And he lives here as an immortal weirdo. I mean, Richie's aunt is like what, 70?

She must have known Merlin her whole life and noticed that he's never aged. I mean, maybe Sean, they just think he's like a character actor. Like he works down the road at some sort of tourist attraction and maybe in the middle of the night they swap him out for another Merlin. I don't know. But yes, you're right.

I would have loved to see the movie where Richie's aunt loved the younger Merlin. I mean, it never, it never even attempts to address it. I mean, there's another part of this that he's been hiding out for that long. Just like up there paying rent silently. But I guess we'll never know.

Mitch Kappa, aka Chunkstyle writes, is it possible that the research for this episode mixed up the box office for the budget? Paul said the movie's budget was 20,000 pounds, but Wikipedia says the movie grossed 20,000 pounds in the UK box office. I couldn't find the budget anywhere. As bad as this movie was, if they made it for that little money, I think it's actually pretty amazing. You know what, Mitch?

I'm going to throw that over to Molly because Molly gave me that research. It makes sense. Well, first of all, it doesn't make sense that this movie was ever released. Honestly, if it's a tv movie, 20,000 pounds. We need some more fact checking here.

So either Molly can chime in or one of you can do the work. But now let's go to Danimal. Jason mentioned that the actor playing Mordred is Craig Sheffer from a river runs through it. Now, Craig Sheffer also played Frankie in another classic, how did this get made? Movie voyage of the rock aliens.

So the battle between Merlin and Mordred is really? A battle between Fred versus Frankie? Ah, Danimal, I love it. I love what you did there. All right.

Hellstorm 78 writes, I can't believe that no one mentioned that Lancelot was played by Adrian Paul, tv's Highlander. That's right. Duncan McCloud. Especially with how many times he asked Arthur variations of who wants to live forever? You are all so close when you mentioned that he was immortal.

In fact, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Lancelot is one of Duncan McCloud's many different sword wielding lives. By the way, this was a good point, hell storm. And it was mentioned very briefly during an audience question that we did cut from the episode. And that's really just because, you know, we found that people don't know Highlander as much as the small niche grouping of people really know Highlander. So I'm sorry, but yes, it was in there.

We cut it out. I'm sorry we didn't get down to the bottom of it. But I do believe, like you're saying, let's just make it Duncan McLeod in this, in this world as well. Okay, let's go to the phones. Christian from Sacramento.

Christian
Hey, Paul, love the show, but I wanted to bring up a correction for something that you mentioned on Merlin the return. You and Jason said that Arthur would have picked up anything in the apartment when he woke up, but he went to the banana, which he should have recognized, but I don't think he have any idea what that banana was. Arthurian legend usually puts him around the fifth or 6th century CE, at which point scientists think bananas would have probably just been making their way to eastern Africa. All kinds of bananas and plantains have been cultivated for thousands of years in Southeast Asia. But it wasn't until that point that they started, like, really migrating.

At least that's what some people think anyways. The kind of banana he would have seen, the ones that we typically eat, especially in the US, is called a Cavendish banana, and it didn't have widespread cultivation until the 19 hundreds. And even then, it wasn't really popular until the 50s after a disease wiped out the previous popular banana, which was called the Grosse Michel or the big Mike. So just wanted to point out that he probably would not have known what that banana was. And even if he had seen bananas from the time period he was from, they wouldn't have looked like the one that he saw on that counter.

Anyway, love the show and hope you all have a great day. What? You're dropping some banana knowledge on me? Holy cow. All right, Christian.

Paul Scheer
All right. You're right. I mean, I can't dispute banana knowledge, and I'm glad that you brought that to the table because I thought this movie didn't do its research, and now you're showing me it absolutely did. So thank you, Christian. Now, here's something I got to tell you.

We did get some calls about Merlin, but we have not stopped getting calls about Madam Webb. And I figured, yes, we are doing corrections on missions about Merlin right now, but I think it would be fun to do two quick calls about Madam Webb. Are you into that? All right, here we go. First up, get ready for this one.

By the way, this is from an anonymous caller, and it made me cry when I first heard it, so just be prepared. Here you go. Hey, Paul, I just wanted to call and say June is right. As a foster parent of nine years, newborns and infants are scooped up immediately. We need more people willing to foster older kids, especially nine and up.

Anonymous Caller
June's comment brought me to tears because I was listening to the episode after dropping off my two sons at college freshman orientation. And please let me just say, Destin, Gary, I'm so proud of you and I'm lucky to be a part of your life. Thanks. And I really hope some people hear this and know that they can be great foster parents, especially for older kids. There's nothing to be afraid of.

Paul Scheer
I really appreciate that, and that's a beautiful sentiment and thank you for that. I mean, wow, I love that our show can go here. I love that we can get that out. So please, let's make sure that we look out for foster kids as well, older foster kids. If you have the means to give older kids a home as well.

I think that's beautiful. All right, now let's go to Devin. It's very much a change of topic here, and Devin is going to blow your mind. Devin, take it away. Hi, John.

Devin
June, Jason, this is Devin. First time, long time. This is not necessarily a correction or omission, but regarding Madam Webb, I had a friend who worked on post production for the movie. When they were almost complete with their post production work, Sony's lawyers came in and told them to halt their work because they realized that they didn't have the rights to say, with great power comes great responsibility. Anyway, I think this antidote is pretty representative of some of the backstage confusion for how this got made.

Thank you. Take care. What? Oh, my God. They could.

Paul Scheer
All right, it all makes sense now. It was a lawyer thing. Why would they even try to put it in there. It sounds so bad, but now at least it makes sense. Devin, I appreciate that.

This is truly a gangbuster day here on corrections and omissions. I mean, I don't even know where to go. I mean, first of all, our anonymous phone caller was so beautiful, so wonderful. I want to give them, you know, the winner of this segment, and they should get the winner of this segment. But the truth is, they didn't give me a name, so I can't make them a winner.

But I'm going to say this. There are so many great ones here today, and I have to say it has to go to Christian from Sacramento, who dropped some banana knowledge on us. Christian, you are our winner. And you get this amazing song from Rob from Long island. Hit it.

You win. But let's be clear, you don't win anything substantial or tangible.

Thank you, Rob from Long island, for that song. Remember, if you want to submit an alt movie title, a tagline, or anything at all, chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode on the Discord at Discord, GG HDTGM or call us at six one nine p a u l a s k. That's 619. Paul ask. We love your phone calls.

All right, coming up after the break, Jason will join the pod to chat about podcasts that we are currently loving. And our producer, Scott, is going to test our knowledge with wizards. That's right. We're going to take a Wiz quiz, people. And as always, I will announce next week's movie.

But first, I want to share one last correction in omission. This is from Lovely Lizette. Lovely Lizette writes, I am surprised that no one talked about the scientists having all those beautiful imacs and other equipment at Stonehenge, but no clear source of power for it. Well, guess what, lovely Lizette, we did actually talk about those colorful imacs from the early two thousands in a scene that got cut from the episode. And I'm going to share it with you right now.

Take a listen. Well, here's what's so fascinating. So, so I thought for a little while, I'm like, oh, this is, this is a movie where, like, major technology was happening in the real world. And this movie's response and fear was like, oh, who knows what technology could do? Like, maybe you could go meet the knights of the Round Table.

Molly Reynolds
Who knows where the Internet will take us? It felt very much so, like one of those movies, but now knowing, and there were imacs in it. Is that 2000, by the way? No, there were big. No good study is doing imac research.

Paul Scheer
They had like the candy imacs that were like popular in the early two thousands. Like, yeah, get the cool candy colored ones to do this giant lightning experiment. At Stonehenge, though, Paul, when I saw those, I was like, I miss them. I miss them too. But they're not going to be doing heavy computing back then especially.

That was like a computer that, like, that you gave to old people so they could figure out email. It was like, you don't have to have any hard drives in this. It's a one stop shop. Plug it in and you're done. Like, yeah, I guess it was thing.

Action Jackson Five
That makes me feel like it's a movie from the past. Although unequivocally you're right, because of the presence of the IMAX that doesn't state it. But so now we believe you. Now we believe you only now. Only now.

Molly Reynolds
After doing our own research. Yes. But one of the things that made me feel like it was older was the true laissez faire attitude the parents have towards watching over the kids. Like, it felt to me like those kids were free range beyond. They were on an adventure that was, it felt like dirt bike kid.

Action Jackson Five
Wasn't that the movie? Another way, like those movies where the kids are just off having an incredibly dangerous adventure in the no retreat, no surrender. No. It's how the three of us probably grew up. Which was like, I don't think I saw my parents for an entire summer.

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Jefferson's bourbon company Crestwood, Kentucky welcome back, everybody. You know that right now, every Monday we are releasing a old episode from the vault. That's right. And this week's matinee Monday was rhinestone with special guest Matt Jones. And next week will be Hercules with guest Sashir Zamada and Leslie Hedlund, who created Star wars the acolyte.

So keep on checking out these replays of classic episodes every Monday. Now, I don't know if I mentioned this with Jason because I pre recorded my Jason conversation, but if you are not watching the acolyte, get on it. It's great. I'm really, really loving it. All right, now it is time for Jason to stop by, even though I just revealed that we did record it before I recorded this.

Anyway, use your imagination and let Tom McWhatters do another great job with a brand new theme to just chat. Tom. Hate it. We're gonna have ourselves a conversation. Just chat.

Jason Mantzoukas
No quarantine or vaccination. Just chat. Paul and Jason, a couple of cats. Just chat. Just chat.

Just chat.

Paul Scheer
Jason, we are gonna switch things up today. Wait, what? I have tv shows to recommend. I've got comic books to recommend. What do we do?

Action Jackson Five
What's this? You have to put it on the back burner. Because you want me to bb this? You gotta bb it just for a little bit, because I think we're gonna get a chance to talk about some of that stuff in just a bit. But our producer, Scott, has come up with a game that neither of us know what it is.

Paul Scheer
So this could go horribly off the rails. I mean, I don't know. I mean, you know, we. We are. We are creatures of habit here.

So what are the prizes? Scott, what are the prizes? Oh, man. Whoever wins their respective. Frantically looking side to side, frantically looking.

Scott Sahni
Irrespective, team Fred or Team sanity will be declared correct. Oh, no, that's too much, too high.

Paul Scheer
I thought you were gonna give us, like, maybe a comedy bang bang 15 shirt. You know, those are too pricey. We'll give you a earwolf. I want a comedy bang. Yeah.

Action Jackson Five
Is there some sort of, like, earwolf? Is there any obsolete earwolf swag? We should be giving stuff away that's like. That is, like, leftover from the old days. Oh, I think you can find some stuff if you go to, like, podswag.

Scott Sahni
Do you want some stuff? Anything that's on to do list? Oh, my God. That's hysterical. I recently found an earwolf branded popsocket in my junk drawer.

Paul Scheer
Oh, that'd be a good one. Yeah, I like it. I sold it on eBay for $1,100. I'm looking here in the pod swag. Scott.

Action Jackson Five
I'm kidding. I'm. Scott. Scott. Scott reacted with such shock that someone would have.

But. Scott. Get out of here. I'm sorry. Here's what I think we need, actually.

Here's. I think, and maybe I'm going to say this out loud, and I'm going to look a fool, because we have it and have had it for years. I think we need a good. How did this get made? Maybe this is a kinship goods type thing or something like that.

Paul Scheer
Sure. Baseball hat. Ooh, yeah. We don't have a good, like, canvas baseball hat. That is.

Action Jackson Five
I don't know. Maybe it says geostorm. Maybe it says just HDTGM, or maybe it's branded some other. I know, element. GM, like baseball logo.

Scott Sahni
Kind of like, you know, the. Could be cool, could be fun. I'm down with something like that because, I mean, I look, as a bald man, I'm always wearing different kind of hats, you know, and I feel like. A hat is one of the pieces of swag from, like, I've got a. I've got a doughboys baseball.

Action Jackson Five
Like, that's the thing that I enjoy. A baseball hat from the thing, the bands or the podcast that I like. I mean, personally, if we could make an appeal to the 47 brand, which is what I. What is that? Is that, like, they do sports teams.

Paul Scheer
They do a lot of sports teams, but they also have. That's what they're called, right? Sports teams. Sports teams. That sounded cool, right?

They do some interesting collections. I think that we should get 47 to make a podcast headwear collection. Great. I mean, let's do it. I will say the ones on kinship goods are good from.

Action Jackson Five
Oh, yeah, they do doughboys. They do action boys. Oh, yeah, action boys stuff looks great. I was hanging out with Gabris all last week. Oh, nice.

Paul Scheer
Oh, right. On your show. Should I be saying that? Or is that. You could say, yeah, it's not officially announced, but, like, he.

But I think we can say. Cause Gabris is the best. And man, oh, man, he's got a lot of merch, and it looks good, every one of it. Oh, their stuff is great looking, by. The way, Jason, I don't know if I told you this whole thing, but I got to hang out with Adam Savage in his.

Action Jackson Five
In his workshop.

I knew you were going to see him. And, boy, I've never been jealous, having just watched, like, a 20 minutes video of him building new cabinets for his drawers, new drawer cabinets for his, like, german catch all, like, stuffed drawers. I was incredibly compelled. Well, first of all, as a fan of tested, looking around, being in there was, like, being on set. And he's lit it so well that he's got these overhead lights all run by, like, a, you know, this iPad.

Paul Scheer
So he can kind of set up any area to be ready for making videos, which is so cool. And I got to see and hold and touch. I guess hold and touch is the same thing. That little. He's drill.

He's trying to get these little mini drill holes. So he's building this, like, safe, this, like, dollhouse safe. Cool. It's going to be working, which I think there's been little clips online to that so far. And so he was able to drill, like, maybe 50 or little pinholes in a dime.

Action Jackson Five
Wow. So that's how tiny the drill bit is. You can barely see it. It's so cool. And he is just the best.

Paul Scheer
We should have him on the show. Actually, I was thinking about it. Oh, he'd be great. He'd also be a great guest in San Francisco sometimes. That's what I'm thinking.

Yeah. If we go back there. Cause he's very, very funny. And. Yeah, it's been.

It was really just a. That's great. Did you tell him that we love his bags? Oh, I did. Well.

Cause as I was leaving, he said to me, oh, I gotta give you a bag. I'm like, Adam, I have your. I love your bag. I said, jason, I love. When I wrote him a letter to moderate my book event, that was my final line.

I was like, just so you know. And also, I love your stuff. And he was very, you know, flattered that we are fans of that. Of the bag. He was surprised that we knew about the bag.

But anyway, great guy. And took off the best way. We met up, and then we met at this place in the bay, got on one of those one wheeled gyroscopic things, popped on a helmet, jumped on one of those and just took off. And I was like, man, this guy is cool. I love that.

Action Jackson Five
I love that. That sounds like a blast. All right, so, Scott, what is the game? Okay, Scott, what's your goddamn game? All right.

Scott Sahni
Keep expectations low here. All right? So Scott couldn't be lower. Thank you. This is the last looks episode.

We are covering Merlin the return in this episode. Rip, rick, mail. Rip, rip. Ten year anniversary of his death is this week, actually. Really?

Paul Scheer
Wow. Yeah. So we're doing Merlin the return, and we all know Merlin, one of the most famous wizards of all time. But I wanted to test your knowledge of other wizards in film in a segment I like to call the Wiz quiz.

It's a quiz about a wizard. There's no surprise. A quiz about a wizard. That's Navarro is Wiz.

Wow. Cute. Music. Is there music? You're acting as if.

Action Jackson Five
You're acting as if a theme song is currently playing and there isn't one. Let me be clear. So if you, the listener, are hearing a song, we're not privy to it. We do not know that song. But I love that you are.

Paul Scheer
You went. It wasn't the Rick Mayhall quiz. It's a wizarding quiz, and it's called. The Wiz quiz, which, as far as I'm concerned, is a piss themed quiz. But go ahead.

It should be a sound of piss.

Scott Sahni
All right, I'm going to ask you guys a few questions where you have to name the famous can. I'm going to interrupt you immediately. Are you going to ask us individually or do we buzz in? You're going to be buzzing in. You're going to say either team Fred or Team sanity, and that'll be your buzz.

Action Jackson Five
Why don't we just say Fred or sanity, since team is the same? Great. You get a point if you get it correct, and you don't lose a point if you get it wrong. But if someone steals it, that'll be two points. Okay.

Oh, wow. Okay. All right. And I will warn you, the questions do rhyme. I just got a text.

I don't know because the episode hasn't come out yet. Everyone hates this game. All right, question one. Darcy Carden's mad. She's like, did you wizzy hole?

Scott Sahni
That's a little too dirty. All right, question one. With a flowing cape and goatee style beard, you might say this wizard got his md in being weird. Sanity. Yes.

Paul Scheer
Yes. It's gonna be the Benedict Cumberbatch wizard, which is, of course, the great doctor strange. That is correct. All right, 1 second to team sanity. God damn it.

Scott Sahni
Question number two. This evil wizard shoots light beams from his eyes and mouth that'll turn any surface into rubble. And when he pops up on screen, you know, Kurt Russell's in big trouble. Oh. Oh, um.

Paul Scheer
This is a good one, Fred. Is it Lopan? Lopan is correct. Yeah. Big trouble in little China.

Scott Sahni
Wow. I'm going to say Lopan, big trouble in little China from we did a blank check episode, Paul, about big trouble in little China. That was a blast. I will also say the only reason I remembered it in this case is because it is a recent episode of Action Boys. Oh, I love it.

Paul Scheer
Well, here's where my brain is broke. You said it, and I was like, james Hong. Yeah. What is James? I could not remember.

I knew it was James. I only remember the name because I listened to that action Boys episode last week. That's great. Action Boy is now doing tv shows. In their zombie squad tier of Patreon, where that's what we're going to do.

Action Jackson Five
We're going to start a Patreon where we'll cover tv shows. I would love that. So fun. Action boys. Bizarre.

Can't get enough shows. Fantastic. All right, we are tied one to one. Moving on to question three. When he grasps his magical snake headed scepter, he sure looks like a meanie.

Scott Sahni
But this wizard's downfall was what he wished to become. A genie. Oh, poof. Well, I buzzed in, but now he wished to become a genie. Oh.

Paul Scheer
Oh, Jafar. That is correct. Nice. Oh, okay. I wouldn't have known that.

Scott Sahni
Paul's probably watched Aladdin the not. But I will say no because it wasn't available for a long time, and then they weren't interested in it. But I was watching wish, the Sony movie that just came out on Netflix, which is just straight up Aladdin, but actually pretty fun. I thought it was pretty good. Oh, yeah.

All right, this is the final question. This is a short quiz. This is a final. Scott, I've got notes. There's three answers in this one.

All right? So it could be anyone's game. Team sanity is up two to one right now. All right, so I'm going to give you clues about two famous wizards who are portrayed by the same actor. So you have to name the names of both wizards and the actor who portrays them.

All right? Oh, wow. Okay. Okay. The first wizard's name might make you weep.

And if you'd enjoy a charms class at Hogwarts, it's the second wizard you'd seek. Okay, this is. I know what you're talking about here. Okay, I got. This is.

Paul Scheer
Well, I know the wizard, but we have to name the actors. I know the actor. So do we work together? Okay, wait, sorry. Say it.

Action Jackson Five
Say it again, Scott. All right. The first wizard's name might make you weep. Okay. Okay.

Scott Sahni
So you'd enjoy a charms class at Hogwarts. It's the second wizard you'd seek. Team Fred, I guess. Okay. Willow.

Correct. Right. And it's Warwick Davis. That's correct. And then the charms professor is.

This is where your Harry Potter knowledge is on blood. Professor Bins. Is it not bins? Who is it? Ooh, damn.

It is not bins. Charms. It's not Professor Bins. Who is bins? Let's see.

Professor Bins teaches history of magic. Professor Bins is history of magic. Okay. So. Fuck.

Action Jackson Five
Okay. All right, well, two out of three charms is. Paul, do you remember? This is what I was thinking of, which was. Okay, hold on.

Paul Scheer
Give me. Give me 1 second, because I'm pulling it. But the other two are. Right. It's also a.

It's a smaller person. Right. Like, this is the person who. So it. Gosh, I don't know this at all.

The only thing I could remember was like. Was it like, owl and Newt is what I could remember. Right. Is that, like, those are the names. Of, like, their exams at the end of the year.

Professor Flintwick. Flitwick. That's Flitwick. That's correct. Wow.

Scott Sahni
I was not expecting Harry Potter reference. That was honestly the owl and newt. I was like, and I was like, as owl, newt, you're in the right. That's the only thing that was kind of pulling me. Wow.

Well, Jason got two, which gives him a score of three. Paul got one, which gives him a score of three also. So the battle continues. The battle continues. Of sanity and deep breath.

Action Jackson Five
Next time, next time. Next time. There's no Gandalf White. I thought there's no Saruman. Too obvious to go with Lord of the Rings.

Paul Scheer
Oh, you know what? You know what? I was looking forward to? Radagast the Brown. Come on, Sky.

I was hoping for, you know, whatchama call it the wizard in season of the witch. But more importantly, Holy Garrett the goblin king from. Is he a wizard? Is David Bowie. Labyrinth.

Scott Sahni
Is labyrinth. Yeah, he's a wizard, I guess. Fun. All right, good job, Scott. Thank you, Scott.

All right, we'll continue this battle. I love their last looks. Oh, the battle wages.

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Yes. Great. And Ed Gamble has come out. I recorded it while we were in London on that tour, sat down with those guys and did their podcast, which I had a blast doing. And then I also did a recent episode of all songs considered on NPR, where we just.

Action Jackson Five
I chose music and got to talk about music with them for an hour, and that was a blast. Oh, man. I've done pretty much every podcast imaginable in the last month. Any in particular that you want? Because anything that, like, turn us onto ones we might not know about?

Paul Scheer
Well, yeah, there's a great one called best movies never made with Steven Scarletta and Josh Miller. Josh Miller is one of the writers of sonic. I did the far side movie. So we actually read the script of the far side movie and then talked about, you know, we just. We talked about the movie, so we talked.

It's kind of like, how did this get made but different, but without the movie? Yeah. Yes. And so that was like. That was really, really fun.

I also did another podcast who. They called us the enemy. So I was listening to this podcast called what went wrong? And they basically focus on movies, and they do the promise of our premise, which is, how did it get made? They do break down how these things get made, and they do a great deep dive.

So I'm listening to. Wait, they think we're the enemy? Well, this is the funny thing. I'm listening to their episodes. I'm so into it.

They're talking about lost. They do a really two parter about lost and all the crazy shit that went on in how lost actually got made. And in talking about something, they go, oh, and Paul Scheer, the enemy. And I was like, what I felt? And I wrote them and I was like, what are you, enemy?

You know? And they, you know. Cause they felt, you know, it was a jovial and so I got on and we did. What went wrong? Did they know you were a listener?

I don't think so. Oh, that's funnier. So, yeah, I definitely hit them out of the blue with that, and they're great. Chinatown. Yeah, we did Chinatown.

What went wrong on Chinatown? Because it's not about, like, this movie became bad. It's just crazy. Here were the struggles. Like, here's Faye Dunaway throwing piss in Polanski's face.

Like, that level of absolute insanity. I also. And that's called what went wrong? What went wrong? And I really.

And I also. Even though we're the enemy, we're still promoting their podcast. I was like, and they do something so kind of cool. They're really tight and so well researched. It's not like, oh, let's sit around and talk about Chinatown.

It's like, let me tell you the story. No, no. It's. They've done the work. And then cocaine and rhinestones.

Action Jackson Five
Or you must remember this. It is a research based podcast, which. Is so fun to listen to. I love that. And I did another podcast called 90 Minutes or less film fest.

Paul Scheer
So that's a british show. That is. They only talk about movies that are 90 minutes or less. You get to pick your movie. I picked the limey home run.

Action Jackson Five
So they can be any. It can be any kind of a movie. Any movie, as long as they are 90 minutes or less. And that one comes in right at 89 minutes. So funny.

I was just saying that the other day we were talking about out of sight, and I was saying I haven't seen the lime. I've seen out of sight a lot recently, but I haven't seen the limey in years. Oh, the limey is so good. And we had a great conversation. And Nish Kumar, who you might know from, you know.

Paul Scheer
Yeah. So Nish is on there. He's talking about Taskmaster season five. He was. He had the mash report.

Action Jackson Five
Fantastic stand up comedian. And by the way, these are like, they had Ethan Cohen on there, you know, talking about driveway dolls and a lot of fun people that you would know. I'm a big. And so then it's just a chat about the movie. It's not like there isn't a theme on it.

There is. Just as long as it's 90 minutes or less. We're just going to chat about the movie. Yeah, exactly. You have, like, Joanna Robinson talking about attack the block or celine song talking about computer chest.

Paul Scheer
So really fun podcast that I think you will. I love that I'm gonna subscribe to. That's 90 minutes or less. Yeah. 90 minutes or less film fest.

Action Jackson Five
And what went wrong are the people that think we're their enemies. Yes. And then, of course, there is the great. I mean, I'm telling you, I've done a lot of. By the way, these are great.

Paul Scheer
Wrecks, fun movie podcasts. And look, it shows that we can always. We can all share. Oh, and you know what I did the other day that was just so much fun? Riff tracks.

I don't do riff tracks, but I had a conversation with the guys from riff tracks. Oh, cool. I was like, we got to do something with them at one point because we're such a fan of what they do. And, oh, yeah, we cover certain things that are fun, and we thought it'd be fun. It would be fun.

Action Jackson Five
I feel like every once in a while, we get asked to do and participate in, like, a podcast festival or a day of podcasting or whatever, and it's always, it's a this show and that show, and we put them all together, and it's a day of this or a weekend of that. Wouldn't it be fun to get all of the movie podcasts together for just a weekend of movie podcasts? I mean, it would be. I actually think it'll be really, really fun. Film cast to the ones.

Check to the ones you've been just mentioning to get newcomers there. Action boys. Get them in there. There's so many movie based podcasts that come at it from. Some are funny, what you're talking about.

Some of these sound actually well researched, you know, like, you know, more informative than just us doing bits, you know, like, I feel like it would be a good. What we can get. We hate movies in there. We can get the other bad movie podcasts. Riff tracks, everybody.

Paul Scheer
I think that's the fun thing about it, is we all share a common flophouse and, oh, be a blast. I would love it. And by the way, when I was on Colbert, he wants to come on and do maniac cop. That's what he was talking about. He's like, yeah.

I was like, amazing. Let's go for it. Let's. I love it when people have not just, like, an appreciation for, but a movie they want to talk about, oh. They'Re ready for it.

They're ready for it. That would be, I think, very fun. I think you would also. And this is one other one that I think you might like. Well, you know what?

No. I've plugged a bunch of these podcasts. They're all amazing. I have more to plug at a certain point because I'm on so many. But it was a blast.

It was a blast to do all these. Amazing. Are you done now? Is it like, well, now? Are you winding down?

Yes and no. Because I guess part of this is that it never really ends. Ultimately, you know, the idea being that the book has its first wave, which are the amazing fans, people here, that. Congratulations, you are a New York Times bestseller. I mean, that is a wild thing.

Action Jackson Five
That true hero. That was truly. Wow. Hard. Hard.

Paul Scheer
When you walk into a store and there's a table of Tom Selleck books and you walk over to his shelf and there are four of your books. So I feel like I really do take that with a badge of honor, especially because of all the amazing listeners that had this get made who did show up in droves. So I can't say enough. Thank you. And even on the audiobook.

But I will say, I would love. It if you would sign my Tom Selleck book. By the way, I did sign a Tom Selleck book. I didn't tell anybody. I did.

And I also signed one of my books, Tom Selleck, to even it out. But, yeah, so I guess it continues a little bit, because the idea being it has gone through the first wave, and now it's like, oh, does it have legs? In the sense that does it connect with other people? And that's actually what's been really interesting, is that people that I wouldn't expect to be reading it, that are outside that don't know me, I've been hearing about it. So that's really kind of fun.

And, my God, it's exhausting, though. It's the hardest I've ever worked. Oh, no. In those Pacific Northwest dates when you had book events and the show and all, I was like, this is insane. It's insane.

And it's the only way to kind of do it. Or you just. You just become a book on a shelf, like, you know, and it's like. And it's like, where I work too hard on this to be like. Just to be like, yeah.

Like, I talked to somebody and she was like, well, no, that's not my job. I'm like, well, whose job is it? Like, you gotta promote the book at a certain point, it's your job. Or it will just sit there and you will be, you know, I will say, I did my enemy that week. My first week was Bill Maher, who was number one across the board in everything.

Amazon, indie booksellers, New York Times, everything. Just crazy. Wow. So good. Good on Bill Maher.

All right, well, this is great. We will talk again soon. All right, goodbye. All right, thank you, Jason, for chatting with me. And I also want to shout out the earwolf engineer, Jordan Duffy, who sang that amazing theme song for our wiz quiz.

Jordan, that was pretty awesome. If you want to check out more of her music, you can go to jordanduffeymusic.com. okay, it is now, finally time to announce our next movie. Next week we'll be going from medieval nights to m nights. That's right, next episode we are watching the 2008 M.

Night Shyamalan Sci-Fi drama the Happening, starring Mark Wahlberg, Zooey Deschanel, and John Leguizamo. Now here's a short breakdown of the plot. A science teacher, his wife, and a young girl struggle to survive a mysterious plague that causes those infected to commit suicide in the most insane ways. Now, Rotten Tomatoes gives this film an 18% score on the tomato meter. And Jason Bailey from Flavorwire wrote, for reasons still unknown, Shyamalan wrote the dialogue this stiffly and instructed his performers to act like they'd never said words or interacted with each other before.

And I got to tell you, it's true. But that's what makes this movie amazing. Let's take a listen to the trailer for the happening. There appears to be an event happening.

Did you hear that?

What's going on? We lost contact. With whom? Everyone.

The happening a film by M. Night. Shyamalan we just have to be alive when it's over. Rated R. Friday, June 13 now, the happening isn't currently streaming free anywhere, but you can rent it just for a few bucks on Apple TV, YouTube, Amazon prime, or Google Play separately.

I also encourage you to check out Hoopla and canopy Love Canopy, which are digital media services offered by your local public library that allow you to consume movies, tv shows, music, audiobooks, ebooks, and comics for free. All right, that is it for the show. Please remember to rate and review us. If you listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, make sure you are following us and have the automatic downloads turned on. It helps people turn on those automatic downloads.

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