KFC 3: Saucy Nuggets with John Early & Claudia O'Doherty

Claudia O'Doherty

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In December 2020, Richard Delisi was granted release from prison after serving 31 years of a 90 year prison sentence. His crime? Smuggling marijuana. Convicted at the apex of war on drugs hysteria, Delisi's three decades of incarceration was one of many examples of human beings emiserated for growing, distributing, or even carrying cannabis. All of which is to emphasize the strangeness he must have felt stepping into a world of casual acceptance of pot, an America in which the marijuana holiday of 420 has become thoroughly sanitized and corporatized.

And so this year, on the fourth of 2024, the world's second largest chain restaurant launched a dispensary pop up in venice, California, to promote its sauce coated chicken nuggets. Founded in the bluegrass state in 1930 by a stolen valor colonel who perhaps should have been incarcerated for literally shooting a man with a gun. It's true the company launched its first franchise in Salt Lake City in 1952 and has since grown to have a presence on every continent. In recent years. Stateside, the nearly century old bird brand has leaned into cheekier, winkier marketing, usually incorporating the long dead colonel himself.

The saucy nuggets dispensary represents its edgiest attempt to date a pseudo risky embrace of weed culture conducted while thousands still linger in federal prison for marijuana related offenses, despite the Biden administration's much touted claims of clemency. In fact, the restaurant's home state of Kentucky, the k of its acronym, still has yet to decriminalize the drug, though pending legislation will allow it for medical use in 2025. In that sense, the world Delisi rejoined, hasn't changed at all. An economic hierarchy where the law shackles the poor for using a drug, while corporations are free to suck the joy out of counterculture, to market fast food less healthy than the drug itself. This week on Doughboys, we return to KFC once again for the new saucy nuggets.

Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm John early. And I'm Claudio O'Donnell.

All my dogheads out there today, we've. Got some crazy guests. You know, before we get to our guests, I do have to introduce my co host. Our co host. That's right, Claudia.

Claudia O'Doherty

Oh, Doherty. Where is. I'm John.

John Early

Sorry. Wise. We got the wild bunch in here today. It's going to be a kooky app. It's going to be one of those apps, but it's going to be a hoot.

Nick Wiger

My co host, slightly less green Shrek the spoonmaker. Mitchell. Come on. That's just me. Come on.

Claudia O'Doherty

Who came up with that? I'm not sure. The format these emails are supposed to be is not me. Are supposed to be in. Should the roast be the subject or the body?

Nick Wiger

Or both? Either way, keep up the good work. Sorry. Y'all are slowly killing yourselves for our enjoyment, but we really do enjoy it. Thanks, y'all.

Cheers. Blake H. From Redwood City, California, roasted. Blake H. Eat shit, first of all.

Mike Mitchell

Second of all, you see that silence? It played, too, because it was mean. A little too mean. Yeah. And I was confused.

Thank you. Well, I think the rhythm was perhaps a little thrown off, so I think that was. Oh, you're defending the joke. I think they. I think probably it came in kind of a different place than it would normally.

Claudia O'Doherty

John and I started yelling at the. Beginning, which I loved, for the record. Yeah. Mix it up. No.

Nick Wiger

Yeah. You also pick these. Correct. Amelia sends three options. Do you want me to give it?

Give you the other options. You can see if I pick. Let's hear the options. Doing it. So this is the audience.

John Early

Roasts. Yes. Roastsbirdfuck.com. There's roast spoon man. And here are the other two options.

Nick Wiger

Roast option two. Ariana nachos Bell Grande. Like it better. What is Ariana Grande? And then the nachos bell.

Go in there. I thought it was just a little confusing. It was kind of a mouthful. I think that it makes more sense. What's her actual name?

Is it Grande? Yeah. Yes. Mitch. Ariana Nachos Belgrande.

That was from Alex at Lamera. Much better. This one I thought was really mean, and I didn't want to. I'll say it if you want me to say it. Let's hear it.

Mike Mitchell

Come on. Ozempic's final boss. That's pretty funny. You like that one? I don't get.

Claudia O'Doherty

What do they mean by that? I'm like the final challenger. They're like the last. So is final boss a phrase used commonly in the game? It's a video game thing.

Yeah, I see. It's been coming back a little bit because the rock. Right? Is that why it's now been in the lexicon a little bit more wise? The rock is the final boss at WrestleMania, I guess.

Nick Wiger

But I think it's also just generally been in nerd culture lexicon for a year. Sure. Barack Obama, the rock. Is that a name for him? There was literally a sketch.

They did the rock Obama on what? On the great website, funnierdie.com, I believe. Was that right? Oh, no, wait. It was SNL.

Mike Mitchell

Oh, my God. It was SNL. Because accent wise, we were saying everything different. So that's where my brain went. I think it was an SNL Dwayne Johnson hosted.

Nick Wiger

Yes. A lot of fun. He's strong, I think. Very strong. And he's very tall.

Very tall. How tall is he? He's six four. Wow. Big dude.

Claudia O'Doherty

What's it like? Yeah. It would be crazy. You're seeing everything different. The top of people's heads.

Nick Wiger

Well, midget, you're a tall drink of water. You're like six two and a half. Yes. It's a little colder up there. I guess.

Mike Mitchell

The air is thinner. You get dizzy. You can see people in crowds easier. That is. That is.

John Early

Sure. You also get, like, looked at, like more of a monster in some ways. I feel like, like, you know, like people are. Yeah, I told y exist. You ruined concerts for me.

Mike Mitchell

That's. That's true. Yeah. I like to sit during concerts a lot of the time. On the ground, sometimes.

On the ground? Yeah. It depends on where I am. I mean, like, share. Preferably.

Nick Wiger

Preferably the. My priest.

Mike Mitchell

I kind of have a priest. I don't go to church a lot. He's like. He's like the priest from the exorcist. I think.

Claudia O'Doherty

He's so dreamy. He's so cute. Are you talking the young one or the old one? The young one. Okay.

Mike Mitchell

Oh, okay. Cause the older one. Is it Vanna? Max von. Sight out, Vanna White?

Claudia, it is not Vanna White. We're trying to get the facts right. Here about exorcist Max von Siddo. Max von Siddha. Not Vanna anything.

Nick Wiger

My friend. When I was a kid, one of the first porno mags I ever saw was my friend had a playboy magazine, like, his dad's playboy, and it had a vanna white pictorial. Oh, my. Whoa. Did she have.

She was wearing, like, all sheer garments, but you could see. Oh, my gosh. Was she near the letters? No, they did not. They did not have, like, the wheel of fortune.

Mike Mitchell

Did she turn around an eggplant emoji. That's funny. That is funny. Raunchy. Exactly.

Claudia O'Doherty

They didn't really have. I take issue with it. Well, okay, wait. It was a picture of an eggplant then. I don't know.

Mike Mitchell

It could. It could be. You know what? They didn't do pictures either. I know.

Claudia O'Doherty

It's a crazy idea. I know it is. Now I know it is. Before, I felt so confident. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

The rock ripped that away from me. The rock. They stripped a lot away from better way. The rock is six foot five. And I always love this photo, which he posted, because this is the rock next to NBA legends Charles Barkley and Shaquille.

Nick Wiger

Name. Wow. Shaquille is so big. He's positively dwarfed by these two titans. Although he himself would be the biggest man in this room by a landslide.

Claudia O'Doherty

Wow. Imagine me in that photo. I wouldn't even be in frame. You might have been in that photo. You could have been.

I know. I was there that day. You think you'd be below frame? Yeah. Look at the frame.

Mike Mitchell

Can I see the frame one more time? I gotta hold on. I closed the tab. You feeling kind of white right now?

John Early

Because there's an open screen next to me. I'm like, it's hard not to look. It's the great scandal of our lifetime. We have to get rid of screen. We gotta get rid of phones.

Claudia O'Doherty

No more podcasts. So bad. What are we gonna do? Here's what I say. No more film podcasts.

Yeah. Maybe, like, the top of my ponytail would be in that photo. Yeah. Wait, hold on. Sorry, sorry.

So what are we saying? No more. No more filmed podcast intimacy of the. There's a ration my face today. I had to buy concealer to cover it because I'm coming on a podcast.

Nick Wiger

Isn't that wild? Like, I just. I think about that all the time. It was just like, I used to just be able to, like, look like shit and had to, like, shower. This morning, I didn't have podcast this beautiful, vulnerable, raw quality, right.

John Early

Kind of voyeuristic. Yeah. And now ASMR quality John's outfits cost $3,000. Thousand dollars. I fucking paid for stylists for this.

Mike Mitchell

Oh, my God. You both look terrific. You both look great. Thank you. Can you imagine if I did full HMU and a stylist for this podcast?

We'd appreciate. I think it's about damn time, don't you think, Nick? I'd love to get a hair and makeup artist. No, I mean our. Okay, Emma, hit him with.

We hit him with a drop. Please. Hit him with the drop. I did a hot box. Oh, my.

Claudia O'Doherty

Oh, my God. Is it good? Yeah, yeah. Is it good? Yeah.

John Early

Is that dark? Is it a hot box? 364. Oh, is that dusty? Is it good?

Is it good? Yeah, yeah. I did a hot box. Hot box, hot box. Is it good?

Claudia O'Doherty

Yeah, yeah. Is it good? Yeah, yeah. I did a hot box. Oh, God.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. Is it good? Yeah, yeah. Is it good? Yeah, yeah.

I did a hot box. Okay, here we go. We think that maybe that was Darcy. That's what we. That's my guess.

Darcy carden. That is my brother's name as well. Oh, that's right. Not Carden, but Darcy, for sure. That's right.

What's up, spoon man and the whole doughboys, fam? Question mark. I made this drop after hearing Mitch say I did a hot box in the Emily Yoshida episode. Shout out to fellow. We got a voice twin.

We got a voice twin. Get a voice twin. Shout out to fellow Iowan. Emily. Thanks for the laughs.

Thanks for all the laughs. Aw. Sifo. Sifo Dyas. Like the Star wars character, Jedi Master Sifo Dyas.

Did I say it wrong? I'd have to read it. I'd have to look at it. PS, phase three of Star wars. The high Republic is upon us.

Claudia O'Doherty

We went on the Star wars ride. We did. I would say it was lacklustre. Which Star wars ride? The one that's inside.

Yeah, totally inside. Did you pilot or. No, I was shooting. I was like, oh, I think I. Know what that is.

Nick Wiger

You're doing the millennium falcon one. You're not talking about the one where you walk around, right? This is your first experience with it? Yeah. I have said I think Disney Star wars is bad.

Mike Mitchell

The park and all of it. But the park is not very. And that ride is bad. You don't like the world of Batuu? Batuu is fucking boring.

Nick Wiger

Wow. What is Batuu? It's the canonical world for the Star wars land. It, like, takes. That's the world you're in.

Mike Mitchell

I'll actually explain it to you multiple times. They got really too. Look. Let me introduce our guests formally from killing it, Claudio Doherty in the new movie stress positions. John early.

Nick Wiger

Hi, John. Hi, Claudia. Hello. Thanks so much for being here. Thanks for having us.

John Early

Thanks for having us. We love to be guests on, I want to say doughboys. Yeah.

Nick Wiger

So they got too precious about the Star wars universe, and they wanted to make sense. So it takes place in a specific timeline on a specific fictional planet that they invented instead of Mitch. Like, what we've talked about. There should be, like, a cloud city biome. There should be, like, a tatooine biome.

They should just crammel. There should be Endor. They should just throw it all in there. Hey, you want to see fucking Yoda? Everybody knows fucking Yoda.

Mike Mitchell

You can't. Too bad he's not a timeline. You can't see it. I really regret bringing up Star wars. I'm really sorry.

Claudia O'Doherty

Really sorry. But it wasn't my fault. Someone had a special name. It's true. Oh, yes.

Mike Mitchell

But. And you didn't like that ride. The ride was just very lackluster because the screen, you're, like, flying and shooting, and you're meant to be like, whoa, I'm flying. But in fact, you're just like, it's a screen. Yeah.

Claudia O'Doherty

I want to feel more terrified. It was more one, right? That's Space Mountain. That's not Star wars. That's not Star wars.

I've got something. What's that? I think Disneyland should be called mountain land. All the rides are on mountain. Mountain, mountain.

John Early

Splash. Mountains. Space Mountain. That's three mountains. Wow.

Nick Wiger

Magic Mountain is a separate Six Flags park. But I think the point is, no, it isn't. No. Okay. All right.

Wise, I've been corrected. Don't you fucking do that at me. I'll do it at you. I'll do it back at you.

Mike Mitchell

How rude of you. Jimmy is baffled by the new arrangement here. We're in a different studio. She doesn't trust. She doesn't trust me.

Nick Wiger

She doesn't want to sit. It's a t 1000 sort of thing where the animals can move the pillow. Come on. Come on, Jimmy. Come up here.

Come sit next to me. Claudia, I have a specific thing for you, which is that we have talked about hungry jacks on each of your podcast appearances, both solo and with Jon. Yeah. My parents took a vacation to Australia, and my mom sent me this photo. This would be great.

Mike Mitchell

This would be great for you. If Jemmy sneaks between you, if Jemmy gets up between. I'm gonna be livid. I know. Gemini, what are you doing?

Jemmy, come on, Gemini. Jemmy, come on, Jimmy. Liv. She's gonna do it. Oh, my gosh.

Nick Wiger

She's gonna cozy up there. She's doing it. Good girl. Good girl. Oh, my God.

Mike Mitchell

This is so good. You're such a good girl, Jon. Sorry. You sat on the couch with the dud. We're gonna figure we have a long time.

Nick Wiger

That is so cute. Too bad you sat on the couch with the dog dud. Nick Weiger, how dare you? You know, because she wants the body heat on both sides. So I think we'll make this more inviting for you.

Claudia O'Doherty

You should stop sitting so close to each other. It's just hard not to. I'm kind of snugged in here because of the microphone arm sort of swooping around. Because of the microphone arm. You could adjust that.

Mike Mitchell

It is very uncomfortable. Fully adjustable in every direction. And what? I'm gonna be over here leaning like this. We're gonna wait your ass over.

Nick Wiger

No, I gotta be full. I gotta be looking in your direction. We're making our guests uncomfortable. No, I'm having a great time. Okay.

So my parents took a vacation to Australia. My mom. My mom texted me. I don't know, but they texted me this. All right, Nick.

Cause this is the full details. I have whopper on sale BK Australian. And they sent a picture of a hungry tax. Wow. Is that the only photo they took in Australia?

The only thing they sent me. Me too, actually. But I'm only. Oh, yeah. Cause John recently came to Sydney to meet my friends.

John Early

Our last appearance, I went to Sydney. Wow. What was that like? Absolutely incredible. Wow.

You know, I stayed at an Airbnb about three houses down from her family home, her parents house. And it was so much fun. And we had, honestly, the best food I've ever had, like, in Sydney. Sydney is a food town. We didn't do any.

I guess. Clem's is fast food. Clems is fast food. And I've talked about it on the podcast. Clems.

Nick Wiger

Okay, it's. I do. I remember every. I do remember that. That was great.

John Early

It's. Clem's is a Sydney based fast food, but it's like, it's only one brand. There's only one. So that it's one tree trunk. Right.

Nick Wiger

Like an individual location. But literally, it's the only thing that comes close to KFC, which we will. Incidentally, be talking about today. All right, that brings us to our next segment, KFC.

Are we there on the timer yet? No, no, sorry. No, it's okay. You can do whatever you need. Do you know who Sydney is?

Mike Mitchell

Their least favorite city? Oh, never mind. Say it. Mitch. Ghostface.

Claudia O'Doherty

Hello, Sidney. Ah, I got it now, but I. Have a really good impression of him. But. Of Ghostface.

But it's too rude. I don't think I could be like, you can do. What do you mean, too rude? It's fairly perfect. I got called less green check moments check.

Because everyone should do Ghostface. They go like, hello, Sydney. But actually, the more ghostface thing is he goes, shut the fuck up, you fucking bitch.

Listen to me, you fucking little. You know when he says.

Nick Wiger

Oh, God. Oh, it's scary. It's very jarring and scary. I wish I could remember, you know, wasn't as good as I remember. She's in twisted metals.

Mike Mitchell

Sydney. Ghostface. Oh, man, that would be wild. Nevis Scott. Is that her name?

Neve Campbell? Yeah. I never met her. Wait, really? Yeah, they.

They wouldn't let me meet her. That sucks. Well, you're also in completely different arcs. She was there in the end. Oh, my God.

No, no, no. I was gonna have. You know what's funny is there was a dinner where I was gonna get to have dinner with Sidney Prescott. Wow. But one, we had a show in Chicago.

Nick Wiger

That's right. Two, I got COVID. That's right. Three, I was supposed to do a crypto ad with Gronk. What good.

That fell through. We all agree it was a happy accident. We agreed that it was probably a happy accident. You would have been the one person who got in trouble for advertising crypto. Yes.

Like everyone else gets a pass. You would have all day. And I had an issue with it. Anyways, you knew that the crypto of. It, Gronk, didn't, um.

John Early

You can bleep this out. Did he? Did. Didn't. Did he have a sounds right.

Nick Wiger

Yeah, sounds like maybe I'm making that. Up, but I don't know, we, we. Don'T need to bleep out. You guys mainly do whatever did he does, right? We don't do what did he.

Mike Mitchell

We don't do what did he don't do? What did he do? Don't do what you don't do. What did he did? We don't do the diddy don't.

No, Diddy. Did he do what did he did? No, wait, that sounds like a support of Diddy, what you just said. No, I said diddy do. What did he did?

Nick Wiger

Does it seem like it's. Did I do what Diddy did? Yes, and then I'm saying, no Nick. Gloves Diddy, that we can leave it. On that one I did.

John Early

Ain't go in nowhere. We ain't go nowhere. We can be stopped now. Cause we do boys for life. All right, that brings us to part.

Two of the podcast. Let's get some of those fan calls in. We've got Sasha on the line.

Nick Wiger

I can't, I can't say this anymore. Gemini's never been happier. She's so content. She's so snuggled in there. Wait, it's convinced she's just like little angel.

John Early

I love when dogs sleep and they get really hot. I like that, too. Then she's dog. Yeah. You know that I famously, one time I was trying to show a group of people at a dinner how kangaroos are hot.

By the way, this is like, fresh off of coming back from Sydney, even though I didn't see a kangaroo, but I was very Australia. Did you see a wallaby? I did see a wallaby with a joey in its pouch. Oh, sorry. A Joey's a baby wallaby.

And so I was trying to tell a group of people how kangaroos are kind of hot and, like, buff and ripped and they are kind of. They are hot. Yeah, they're hot. And then, and I was using my friend's phone to show people, I was like, see? You know, and I, and I was swiping these pictures, and I go, oh, see?

And it was because it was a picture from underneath, like a chest. Yeah. And I was, I was like, see, like kangaroos? And he goes, that's my dog. Wow.

Nick Wiger

It was really uncomfortable. So now John's dating the dog, and. Let'S just say we're really happy.

Are you dog? Are you a dog owner? No. I can't handle your responsibility. What's the pet count?

Cause I know Mitch is a cat. Cat two here, zero. But I'm, you know, I'm foreign. Sure. And because of Depp's dogs.

Claudia O'Doherty

Because you know how Depp. You know Depp's dogs, Johnny Depp. He brought them into Australia. Right. He took the.

So we have very strict quarantine rules because it's an island nation. But you. He just, like, ignored them because he thought he could do anything because he's pirate of the Caribbean. Sure. Yeah.

And then. So he brought in his dogs on his private jet, and then he blamed Amber. Heard they were still together at the time. It was when they were together. Beautiful couple.

John Early

They are amazing. I hope they get back together. It's kind of a will they won't they thing with it. There are modern day Ross and Rachel. Exactly.

Mike Mitchell

They got back together. That would be very funny and quite a story. It would be quite a story. You guys put us through hell to get us back. But I'm sorry, today.

Claudia O'Doherty

No, I'm saying Depp and heard. Oh, he's talking on their behalf. Oh, got you. Yeah. I thought you meant you.

Mike Mitchell

We put you through hell to come back. No way. This was a privilege and an honor. We're thrilled to. And we got to eat my favorite food on Canada.

Yes, you did seem to very much want to eat KFC. I feel like the decision was made before. I kind of just told Nick they want KFC. Yeah. And you said you didn't find it.

Doesn'T really fit in the algorithm. I mean, there was some algorithm talk. Cause it's all about the algorithm. Algorithm all the fucking time. I did use the term SEO, which is.

Claudia O'Doherty

What is that? Search engine optimization. But it's like search engine optimization. Also. By the way, someone just texts you SEO?

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. Would you know what the fuck that stands for? Well, you've been working, and you've been making Internet content for a decade. You think I know what SEO means? No, I don't, Mitch.

Nick Wiger

Oh, my God. That's why I planned on explaining it to you. Wow, you love explaining to go. I'll continue to explain. Amber and.

Claudia O'Doherty

Amber and Johnny right here. Aspiring. I did get. I've said the story of the podcast a couple of times, but I was at a wedding, and the wedding photographer came up to me, and there was this old man looking at me. And the wedding photographer was laughing and said.

Nick Wiger

He asked if you're Johnny Depp. Wow. That'S insane. What were you wearing? Did you have, like, a pirate hat on?

I had, like, longer hair is the thing. I had kind of dappy hair, and then I also had, like, pink sunglasses. So maybe I looked a little bit. You were drinking a bottle of rum as well, right? Yeah.

Claudia O'Doherty

Big dangly earring. Right. But also, I think it was like there were some. There were a couple celebrities there. So he probably like, oh, it's another celebrity.

John Early

Who were the celebrities? Who were the celebrities? Oh, docs. The celebrity. Annie Samberg was there.

Nick Wiger

It was our buddy David Phillips wedding. Oh, right. Hmm. I was there too. Didn't mention me also, you were there, weren't you?

Mike Mitchell

Damn. We weren't invited. We weren't invited. There was a pony there named Rodeo that I liked quite a bit. That's right.

Claudia O'Doherty

Oh, my God. Mitch told the story well, okay. We talked about this on the podcast previously. Mitch, did you want to. Do you want to recap or do you want me to tell it?

Mike Mitchell

You can tell it. You tell it better. So at the wedding, Mitch comes up to me, and it is at a lovely sort of rural, sort of farmhouse environment on the grounds of this farm, this family farm. Mitch comes up to me and says, the parents of the bride yelled at me. I instantly believe this.

Nick Wiger

Cause that could totally happen to Mitch. And I was like, oh, what happened? And there's this little pony named Rodeo. And he says, they caught me sucking off rodeo. They caught me sucking rodeo's dick.

Claudia O'Doherty

I'm thinking, rodeo's gotta be a girl because she's a pony. Yeah. Oh, are ponies girls? I don't think they're necessarily. I think it's just a mini horse.

Mike Mitchell

Right? Or was it a pony? Might have been a pony. I think ponies can be. What's the difference?

Claudia O'Doherty

Mini horse versus pony? What's the difference now? I think a pony is just a mini horse. I think they're different species. Oh, I can look it up.

Mike Mitchell

It had an eye missing, right? Yeah, it was missing an eye. Did its eye pop out when it came up?

Yes. Claudia, in the history of anyone getting sucked off, have eyes ever popped out? Well, if it's really good, that's what can happen. And she would know. Mini horses are smaller than ponies.

Nick Wiger

Wow. Okay. Imagine if there was one on this little table. That would be cool. I think they cuddle up right here.

Mike Mitchell

Sorry. We're gonna get her over here. I'm being a jerk today. You started the show off calling me Les Green Shrek. That was the fan roast.

Nick Wiger

That's the thing that we do every hour. Why am I being a joke? That was Nick. That was the fan. Thank you.

Claudia O'Doherty

Thank you, John. Sorry, I just. It's hard with the couch. Position invites facts very protective. I make peace with you.

Mike Mitchell

It's not couch v. Couch here. I love you. I love you. And I love you too.

Nick Wiger

I love you too, Mitch. Everyone got silent. Not returning. What? Oh, okay.

So I want to talk about KFC, but I want to generally talk about fried chicken, because I have come to infer that this is a favorite food of yours. Yes, it certainly is. Is it number one? Cause I think it is for me. I think it's my favorite food.

Claudia O'Doherty

Probably number one for me is spaghetti. Wow. Spaghetti. And that was why Jollibee was such an exciting time for us. So perfect.

Mixed world. Caring. Yeah. The spaghetti is weird, though, remember? Yeah, it wasn't good.

Essentially, it's in ketchup. So that was not good. But today is not about Jollibee, right? No, KFC. It's just my brother, my sister, they liked McDonald's.

I loved KFC. So there was always a war whenever fast food was available. And they would always win because it was two to one. Because fast food is always associated. You just think of burgers and fries.

Nick Wiger

Sure. And you don't. And you don't think of actual. And to me, that is like, I love burgers and fries. I love them quite a bit, actually.

John Early

But it's kind of like not food or something. You know what I mean? It just transcends. And KFC always has a kind of exoticism to me because, yes, it's a fast food chain, but you're really getting real food. You're getting a real meal.

Claudia O'Doherty

Animalistic nature of tooth on bone. Less, like made in a weird machine. Oh, I guess you do. Yeah, you do. Yeah.

That's how you know when to. Veins. Yeah, veins. Veins in your mouth. God, that's horrifying.

John Early

Sorry. Veins. I don't like. I don't like the veins, personally. I don't either, obviously.

Claudia O'Doherty

I wish it was more veins. That's a new thing they do. Now. There's a bundle of veins in banner.

John Early

Can I get mine vein style? Thanks.

Mike Mitchell

Wait, hold on a second. Veins. What were you saying? Oh, bone and chicken bone. Didn't KFC have.

He ate the isn't. He ate the bones. He ate the bones was their campaign. Yes. What the hell?

Claudia O'Doherty

Who did what? This was. This was an ad campaign and it sucked. But it was basically early. Two thousands maybe.

Nick Wiger

And it was basically when they introduced boneless. And so the idea was people were eating boneless chicken and being like, I ate the bones. Cause they didn't realize that there were no bones. The implication being the people are stupid, I guess. So there was, like, a dumb guy ad, right, Mitch?

That was a joke of it. I think it was a dumb. A dumb guy. I bet we know who that guy was. Probably.

Yeah. I just hate this tender movement. I don't want tenders. I want bones. I agree with you.

John Early

Agree. Agree. So this is a big thing. Both ordered tenders today. We did get tendies, and I got it as a control versus the saucy nuts.

Claudia O'Doherty

Why are we calling them tendies? That's him. That's not me. That's not KFC. That's not KFC.

Nick Wiger

No, it's me. But we call tenders if you like. Aw, Nick. Yeah, I know. I think it's fun.

Claudia O'Doherty

Grow up. No, I don't want it.

Mike Mitchell

He spilled a cup of wine the other night while reading a manga. That is true. So he's grown up. He's like half and half a cup or a glass. Glass.

Nick Wiger

I have the stemless wine glasses at home. Yeah, the little grooves or whatever. No, it doesn't. That's a great way to warm your wine up.

Point of the stem is to not warm it up. Yeah, obviously. Are you drinking red or white wine? Red wine. So I'm drinking white wine out of a stemless, not a fucking animal.

Claudia O'Doherty

Good, good, good. He's a spill. He's a bit of a spiller. I'm a spiller. This is the thing.

Nick Wiger

I'm just like. I knock shit over all the time. I'm always spilling. I shattered a glass in that studio yesterday. This one of these?

One of the. No, it. Well, it was the drink or stank glass, but it was a Doughboys brand new. It is broken kinship goods. I do just want to take a second to promote the podcast doughboys.

Claudia O'Doherty

Yeah, it's an amazing podcast. They've got really cool guests on. It comes out weekly. It's on right now? Yeah.

John Early

They eat fast food and review it. It's very fun. And everyone gets involved. The audience gets to send in really mean little things to everyone. That's really cool.

It's like. So check it out. Uh, yeah. Anyway, sorry. Sorry about that annoying promo.

I just. We had to do it. You know what I love? I love. I wish more guests would do it.

Mike Mitchell

Here's a funny thing. What? Birds came from dinosaurs. Oh, my God. I honestly do think that's crazy.

Claudia O'Doherty

Yeah, it is crazy, though. Today we're having a big bucket of legs. Well, is that big bucket of dinos? Is that settled scientific theory, or is that like the Ian Malcolm hypothesis from Jurassic park? And some paleontologists think it.

But not everyone agrees because I like. Oh, turns out they all had feathers. This is the consensus opinion now. Interesting. Wait, Emma.

I was gonna say the last time John and Claudia were on was the origin of bird fuck. You came and had the bird fuck dream. Yes. Wow, that's crazy. Did you guys keep talking about it?

I mean, I. Listen, of course, we. It's now our homepage now. It's now our official URL. I think it got like purchased during the podcast.

Nick Wiger

It did, yeah. Yeah. Wow. Do you ever make a roast chicken and it's still got the feathers in it? So you have to like, it's got the quills and you've got to like them out.

John Early

Yes, that has happened to me. That's happened when you, especially if you buy really like, organic and then you're. Plucking them like a medieval wench. Crazy. But we shouldn't.

It should be fine. But it grosses me out. Yeah. It's in that sort of, um, you know, many holes problem. Tricky ticky timbo.

Claudia O'Doherty

It's very tricky turkey. And then you're like, oh, you're talking. About the phobia of seeing a bunch of tightly clustered holes. I can't remember what it's called. Something like that.

Nick Wiger

Trichinophobia or something. Shout out to the medieval wenches for doing all that work, all that plucking. All that bird plucking. Yes. Thank you, birdpluck.com.

Claudia O'Doherty

Did you get that one? I don't know what we'd use it for, but we could get it. We can just redirect to bird. I'll pay monthly. You'll pay monthly?

John Early

Literally. Money's not birdclub.com. Looks like nobody owns it. Bird pluck. I'm sorry.

Claudia O'Doherty

Bird pluck, not cluck. Sorry. We don't want bird luck.

Mike Mitchell

How much, how much would that cost? I don't know. Let's find out. Let's get it. Let's waste.

Yeah, we could waste our money on. Birdpluck.Com out of the patreon. I mean, everything does, I guess in. A way, birdplay, I mean, not every. Would be one penny for the first year.

Claudia O'Doherty

For a three year contract. $21.99 a year after that. I think that's worth it. Is the bit worth dollar 22 a. Year for at least a year?

Nick Wiger

Yeah. $22 a Casey's salary a year. Is it worth it? Oh, yeah. This is deducted from cases.

Claudia O'Doherty

Come on, Casey. Sale? Yeah, I think so. Come on, Casey. Casey, if you give the thumbs up.

Nick Wiger

Solid. All right, let's do it. Birdpluck.com. Now the redirecting home to bird fuck.com. So if you have a typo, you'll end up where you need to be.

John Early

Birdfuck.com. Yeah. If you have a typo where you put p and l instead of f, you'll be at. You'll. You'll be safe.

Claudia O'Doherty

That's a very common typo. You know, you never know. Instead of f. Oh. You never know what autocorrect is going to do.

John Early

Can I tell you that my genius porn plan when I was in middle school, please. So I would, in order to look at. And you can bleep this out, gay porn.

I would type in. I would start. Because, you know, all you have to do is a starting address. This is on the family computer. Exactly.

Sorry, to be clear, the family computer. I would type in hotmail, ma le.com. And that was a real porn site. And I would start there and then. Go on, you know, whatever.

Go on. Right. And then the plan was, if my parents found that now, I would also clear the history. Whatever. But if I forgot to do.

If there was some sort of mistake, if my parents ever found that, I would go, oh, my. Oh, my God. I have a hotmail account, ma. I l. And I typed male.

And I end up on these crazy sites where people are sucking and fucking out. I don't know what was happening. I was cracking up. But no, I. People's eyes are bumping out.

But that was always my plan. If I were to get caught, was like, I was just trying to check my email. Back off, mom. It's really smart. You got a plausible deniability.

Nick Wiger

I like that. Because often when you're trying to write I l, you write l e l e, right? What could they say to that? You're not gay. You're not.

John Early

I'm not gay. You're not gay. Also clever on the porno companies, who. Was like, your girl crush? Like, fake girl crushes.

The thing is, I never really was faking my girl crushes. It was like I was kind of, like saying I had crushes on girls in a kind of unconvincing way. But I didn't really know I was gay. And then once I knew I was gay, I stopped doing that. But the final few pre realizing I was gay, I think, you know this Ashley Judd.

I was like, she's so amazing. In Simon Birch. It was Ashley Judd. It was Juliet Pinochet. Wow.

Nick Wiger

She's aged like fine. Wow. Yeah. And then I think. I think I was like Britney Spears, but what I was.

John Early

But what I was actually thinking about was Justin in my head. Yeah. Were you a Britney Spears crusher? I don't know if I had a crush on Britney Spears. No, I was not.

Nick Wiger

Britney speaker. Maybe too old. We're also too old. I think for me it was Trini, the yellow Power Ranger. How about you?

Mike Mitchell

As in, oh, I liked the pink Power Ranger. The pink is Amy Jo Johnson. She's the one from Felicity. Yes. Oh, wait, what?

John Early

Yeah, she's the friend. And Felicity is looking for her birth mom. Yeah, she's looking for her birth mom. And she finds her and the results on his face. Nice.

Claudia O'Doherty

That she might. Is her mom Jane Cosmeric? I think she might be. And she, like, doesn't want. Yeah, she doesn't want her back.

But then does she want something? Maybe, like, to hang out a little bit? She's like, no, no. But maybe we'll hang. We can have coffee once I've revisited that show.

John Early

Yeah. Worth watching. Like in modern times, if you're not familiar with it. Yeah, it is. Wow.

Claudia O'Doherty

Fabulous. I say, like, it's very, you know, it has a kind of teen, like, cozy kind of weekly, you know, sweaters. Yeah. But there's an extra layer of, like, they treat their audience with respect. Like, it is a.

John Early

She is a complicated character. It is a deep show. It's incredible. And her performance is insane. Carrie Russell, she's an amazing actress.

Nick Wiger

Is good. Do you know the pilot? No, I don't at all. The pilot is that she has a crush on Scott Speedman at their high school. And they've, like, never talked.

John Early

And then he's. And she's already set to go to Stanford. Cause her parents want her to go be a doctor. Palo alto or something. That's like.

Claudia O'Doherty

Yeah. And then. And then he signs her yearbook, even though they've never spoken. And he leaves this long thing. It's like, I always, like, noticed you and you seem so smart or.

Mike Mitchell

Oh, no, you're fine. You just push it back on. It's fine. And by the way, I want to say I'm bringing this background to fried chicken. Please, I have a plan.

I love it. And then he's like. He signs her yearbook, and then she reads it and goes crazy. And then she follows him to NYU. NYU, wow.

That's. Guess where John went to college. NYU. Wow. Who's Felicity now?

Nick Wiger

Bitch, that was Ghostface. Ghostface. Ghostface. I'm Felicity, motherfucker.

John Early

But then. So the first episode is her show showing up at NYU. And then Scott Spieman's like, hey. It's, like. It's genius.

It's, like, actually kind of scary and, like, uncomfortable. Anyway, did he write, like, kind of, like, any sort of tender message, or was it just like that he wrote anything? No. It is tender. It is tender in the way that.

Hot boys are, like, know how to make you feel. Exactly. Cause you know how, like, really handsome men are, like, this is so nice for you, talking to me. I like you enjoy it. It's not that good.

I see Scott Spiedman constantly in LA. Really? Right in this area. Not to dox his ass. I've seen him once in this area as well.

Claudia O'Doherty

And I was like, this is, like, a scene from Felicity. I'm, like, looking at him and he's not looking at me. Is he fast in real life? Yeah, he was speeding around speed, man. Imagine if that's your last name, you get pulled over by the cops.

John Early

I'm just. Yeah, you know what? I would be okay with it. Because he gave that copper a nice laugh for the day. He'd see it and say, this is pretty funny.

Claudia O'Doherty

This is pretty funny. What are the odds that you would be speaking? Who's your child crush? My child crush? When you were a child.

Mike Mitchell

To be clear, it's funny. Cause I did like, as a kid, I remember liking Suzanne Summers on step by step. Oh, sure. Oh, cute.

It's boring, too. I think. I liked when I first saw Baywatch, but I don't like childhood crushes are harder to Pam Anderson. When I first saw Baywatch, Carmen Electra. Just followed me on instagram.

John Early

I was like, how? I'm like. I keep checking to see if she's still following. Like, how can this be real? Bugman's old flame.

Mike Mitchell

Bugmane dated Carmen Electra? No. Yes. In real life? Yes.

Claudia O'Doherty

Wow. For how long? I don't know if people know this. Do we not disclose this? I mean, a great.

Mike Mitchell

It's great for bug in. You guys have big inside. Yes, we're outside. Heck, em, it is. Look, things haven't gone the way I wanted them to today wise.

Nick Wiger

This is Mitch. This is going great. Our guests are being funny. We gotta step it up, you and me. You guys are very funny.

Claudia O'Doherty

No, you guys could be funny if you try. This is the thing, Mitch. When you get two, you get two dynamos on the podcast. You just gotta sit back and let him go. Let em rip.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, we're beta boys. We sit back and we let things happen.

Claudia O'Doherty

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Mike Mitchell

Yes, some sweaters, some candles, some dreaded bathrobes. I've accidentally given my mom the same gift twice. Wow, it's really embarrassing. Or you end up getting like, oh, I guess I'll give you a gift card. It doesn't feel like there's any love behind that.

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Nick Wiger

In fact, Mitch, I'm gonna send your mom the photo right now. The hell? Enjoy. Misses Mitchell. I love you, mommy.

I love you, mommy. You're talking to your mom, right? Yeah.

All right, let's talk about KFC. Okay, let's go back to it when. We'Re all said and done. And when doughboys is done, I'm gonna write you a nice note, too. Aw, that's so nice.

Claudia O'Doherty

You're said and done. When do you think you'll stop doing this podcast? Great question. We thought we were gonna stop doing it five years ago, and the question is, or the actual answer is that it's just hard to turn that cash phone once it becomes, like, a reliable source of income. Exactly what our listeners want to hear.

Mike Mitchell

We don't want to do this anymore. We just keep doing it because its. Own momentum, because of the Patreon spigot that goes directly into our checking account. Wow. Yeah, it's tough.

Nick Wiger

But I mean, this is the thing, Mitch. It becomes like a baseline of income in an industry where employment can be tenuous. Oh, yeah. Claudia and I have talked about doing a podcast. I already told you that it would be a podcast.

John Early

You should do it here at home. Pasta girls. Yeah, pasta girls. That's really good. Think about your podcast without us.

Mike Mitchell

How good would be? Oh, my God. Well, okay. But you could be guests, like most weeks. Yeah, I love them on the podcast.

John Early

Actually, maybe not.

Nick Wiger

Cut that bit of the podcast, I will say, and Emma can speak to this as well. The biggest pain in the ass of any podcast is. Is booking guests and scheduling guests. So if you have a format with pasta sisters, is that what it was? Sorry, pasta girls.

If you have a format that might be a restaurant. If you have a format with pasta. Girls, it is a restaurant. We can't go.

If you set it up where most of your episodes don't have guests, that becomes a lot easier. Well, the guest is the pasta, the guest is the pasta, et cetera. That's the whole thing. We do a different noodle every week. That's a great idea.

That's a great show. That's a show that instantly has an audience. Sounds pretty great. But, uh, just avoid releasing on Thursdays if you catch my.

Yeah, doughboys. Come on on Thursdays. Midnight. Do, like, all podcasts come out on Thursdays? No, there's a different days.

You just kind of pick your day and, you know, people expect it then. And they become ravenous for it. That's the thing. You've got it. Yes.

Right? Sure. You guys have it. But let me tell you, not everybody does. It's the truth.

Mike Mitchell

She gives me a rundown of who has it and who doesn't have it. Wow. It is brutal. But it's an incredible binary. Yeah.

Who has the juice? Swags in this world. Who has the juice? Yeah. In the entertainment world, who's got the juice?

That's what we're looking for. We're gonna say this right now. No. Oh, my God. No.

Claudia O'Doherty

Something very mean to talk about privately. Between us and the NSA. Exactly. Who hears all. Well, our guests certainly have the juice.

John Early

Thank you. Yeah, we have it. And we all had some KFC. And KFC was last officially reviewed on the podcast in 2022 with their new beyond menu. Do you remember that episode, Mitch?

Mike Mitchell

Right. They have now completely discontinued their beyond proteins, as has the entire Yum brand quartet of restaurants. Who is in the Yum brand? It's KFC. Taco Bell, pizza hut, and now the hat.

Nick Wiger

That's the fourth one. That's their burger content. What is the habit? Yeah, what's the habit? Nuns.

It's like a. It's burgers. It's a burger concept. Yeah, but made by nuns. I mean, they should.

They could lean into the nuns. I know. Back in the habit. They could be huge sick. Star.

Claudia O'Doherty

Sister act. The sister act. Sister act. Have you all watched sister act recently? Sister act two.

Why are you talking like that? Are you okay? What's going on? I'm taking a lot of supplements. I know.

Nick Wiger

Clear up your head. They're supposed to. I'm taking. I'm taking a nasal spray that has silver. And Emma's gonna check to make sure I don't turn blue.

Mike Mitchell

I just. It can't possibly be good. It's gonna be. What was that documentary called? Love is one.

Claudia O'Doherty

Love is gonna win again. I'm scared. I look, I not. I won't. I'm not gonna turn blue, Hope.

Mike Mitchell

I don't think I'll turn blue. Yeah, you blend into the wall suddenly. Can you do that, Mike? Can you make me blue? I'll ask him.

Nick Wiger

All right. It would be cool if you could make me slowly turn blue. Yeah, it would be a cool episode. Thing if you had a clip of that. I'd post it to stories to grid, actually.

John Early

I'm kidding. I cannot make that promise. You don't have to. In fact, you don't even have to retweet that the doughboys or re x that you were on the doughboys because. You'Re such a big hit podcast.

Claudia O'Doherty

You don't even need it. We don't need it. You know, I love retweeting it because the fans go nuts. They love you all. They really do.

Mike Mitchell

I guess. Thank you. That's really. I feel that we're below beautiful. It feels so nice to be part of the family.

Claudia O'Doherty

I feel beautiful to be part of it. Can I just say that cardigan is doing amazing things for your eyes. Really? Speaking of blue, deepening the blue of your eyes. Very nice cardigan.

John Early

This is new. It's the shaggy dog cardigan. And it's the classic brand, the forgetting J Press. I can't say J press. I think it's J Press.

Claudia O'Doherty

It's really hard to read from here. Oh, yeah. J Press. J Press. It's like very Kennedy.

John Early

It's very like. Jess. Did they make women's at all? Such as frame? It's so hard to.

No, no, I do make wounds. They do fabric. Oh, I love it. I mean, comfy. Yeah, it's.

And it's not itchy, even though it seems. What is this, a freaking episode of the Pasta sisters? What the fuck's.

Mike Mitchell

We're talking about? KFC fried chicken. Stay on topic. Let's talk about beyond menus. Done.

Nick Wiger

Beyond menus done. They've got. They've. They have abandoned all their nuggets. They did.

Yes. Tendies. They had a whole bunch of that. They don't have, like the ones with bones. No, they never did a bone simulacrum.

From some sort of plant. It would be wild. And the bones like the fun dipstick, that sugar stick. We most recently, Mitch KFC was a presence of the podcast. The KFC famous bowl had middling success.

The Yum brands all star game. Yes, that's the one. That is. It's chicken on top of mashed potatoes and corn with gravy all over it. It's just like a big pile of ingredients.

Yeah. Yeah, that sounds pretty good. It's okay. That was part of this year's tournament of Champions, for whom the bell does much madness. 2024.

The tournament of champions Night dough Quiero Taco Bell. Saucy nuggets were introduced on April 1. So, Mitch of this month. Of this month, of this year. And this hot topic.

Claudia O'Doherty

It's April. We're recording in April. This episode will be out in early May. So this is about as topical as we get. And this is where the previously discussed SEO comes into play.

Search engine optimization. Oh, right. So there are five sauces. And Mitch and I also went to the KFC Saucy Nuggets dispensary pop up for 420. We'll have an episode about that in the doughboys double in the near future.

Nick Wiger

But I want to go back to why KFC in general? Because you didn't know about the Saucy Nuggets newspaper. No, you weren't looking for that, as. You don't care about that at all. You just want to talk about KFC generally.

Claudia O'Doherty

I've begged you every time I've come on this podcast for, what, seven years? I don't know. I don't know when I started coming on while. Maybe longer. Okay, so that's what, 2015?

Mike Mitchell

We're nine years into the podcast. Have I known you the whole time? Yes. We shot love in 2014. Babe.

Claudia O'Doherty

Your first doughboys appearance looks like it was 2016. Oh, let me on the show. Baja Fresh. Baja fresh. Baja Fresh.

I did not like that. It was also confusing because you kept saying, can we go to KPLC? And I was like, what are you talking about? But it's. You know how people put.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, they confused common typo of f. If you put Pl instead of f. So she was like, KPl. See? Yeah, it was a callback.

Claudia O'Doherty

It was very good callback. I didn't get it.

But here's what. And so I've asked you every time. You're always like, we just did it for munch madness. Like, it's always like this. I'm always at this time.

Right? We had to just be like, you have to let us do KFC. I told Nick, I said, it's KFC or nothing. Here we go. We got KFC, right?

John Early

In Australia. Didn't we get it after the Paul McCartney concert? Or do we get Clems? I think we got KFC. We got KFC.

Claudia O'Doherty

And we got Clems. Wow. Post Paul McCartney. Post Paul McCartney. We got KFC.

And we've. At the end of the show, he said, go get some KFC on your way home. I don't believe that. Whatever Paul says. And then they had a hologram of John going, get KFC.

Original recipe.

Mike Mitchell

Blackbird. More like a fried bird wise. Yeah. Anyway.

John Early

Wait, anyway, so we had KFC in Australia. We had KFC literally at the airport at LAX on the way to Australia. One of the best parts of flying from LA to Sydney, which is my most common plane, I go on, sure. Is that there's. I'm like, I'll get some KFC, because there's a KFC in the airport in the international terminal.

Claudia O'Doherty

But something really awful has happened also, John would have noticed there was mainly Australians in the queue because Australia loves KFC. Yeah. We knew this. You knew that Australia loves KFC. We love KFC.

And so. And it was just Australians in the queue. And then you could hear people being like, there's no bone in. There's no bone in chicken. It was like, there's no bone in chicken.

They had no bone in, like, on the menu, or they were out on the menu. This is at the airport. KFC at the airport. It might be a security risk, a travesty. I guess it's true.

You could, like, chew it and, like, sharpen it and then take it onto the plane. Yeah. Or just throw a bone at someone. Could hurt. Yeah, the pilots hurt.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. But it was, you know, we. I still got it. I still ate it. The wedges.

Claudia O'Doherty

Okay, in America, do you just have wedges? We had wedges for a while. Now we got fries. Magic special fries. Wait, are the wedges gone?

Nick Wiger

I didn't see the wedges on the menu. Look, right now. Wedges might be. I thought that what used to be. The KFC fry was like a potato wedge.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, I. Not a good idea. I don't like them. I don't like the wedges. It's too seasoned to go with the.

It's too thick. Simply stunning chicken. It is. Stunning chicken. You're right.

Claudia O'Doherty

The thing about KFC is the original recipe, bone in chicken, too thick. It gets soft. My favorite chicken on planet Earth. You love the KFC chicken. I don't.

Mike Mitchell

We were just trying to get Jimmy to your. Was that what that was? You went, oh, no, but I. You're trying to get the dog to come over there. No, we're making, like, a horny joke, is the thing.

John Early

Yeah. Kind of like a lewd remark when. You were saying, it's too thick. I was gonna say, you'll never hear me saying that.

Claudia O'Doherty

But I just literally show me another fried chicken on planet Earth that's as nice as KFC. I could do that. I don't think that's a heavy lamb. Do you think that's not possible? What about some of the beautiful chicken we've had here in Los Angeles?

John Early

You still think it's better? The KFC in Australia is better? I would expect it to be. I mean, I'd say Clem's is better, but Clem's is just, like, a nicer version. Right.

Claudia O'Doherty

Using probably, like, a slightly nicer chicken. And, like, more complicated, complex batter. Now, what did you teach me about the batter of KFC? I don't remember. Something about, like, 22 spices or something.

Eleven spices. Okay. They used to mix it up on a concrete patio outside the offices. What, the original KFC? Yeah.

Colonel Sanders secretary, Claudia was the person. Her name was. Claudia was the person who showed him the recipe. Wow. And, you know, obviously, she should have been on all of the signage, etcetera.

John Early

Yeah. Claudia was trying to help me plan an australian vacation, and it kind of became a. It's a disaster. It became a war between Claudia and my mom a little bit. Yeah.

Nick Wiger

What's the issue? He keeps asking me the same question, and I keep giving him the same answer. I was like, what should we do in Austria? My mom wants to go to Australia. It's a bucket list place.

Mike Mitchell

She wants to go to Australia. Bucket. KFC bucket. Chicken bucket. It's a KFC bucket list item.

Nick Wiger

Yeah. She wants to go to Australia. And then I asked Claudia, and she was like, I don't know what your mom wants from me, but she gave a very nice five minute thing. I did give a good five minute. And then I did forward onto my mom.

Claudia O'Doherty

Yes. And unfortunately, within the five minute voice memo, which was specifically sent to Mitch, I did criticize his mother, but not in a truly mean way. But I was just like, you need to stop asking me the same question, because I do keep giving you the same answer. It's, we want to. I've given you a very helpful.

Nick Wiger

What's the question? The question is, what should we do? Where should we go in Australia, we don't know, but I guess it's like saying, what should I see in the United States? I've answered many times. Yeah, you did.

Mike Mitchell

You did. And then. And then you just ask me again and again. Take it up with my mom. All right?

Claudia O'Doherty

I don't want to. Oh.

Mike Mitchell

That'S fucked up. She loves you. I mean, she might not want to go to Australia anymore. Yeah, she loves you. This is bitches.

Claudia O'Doherty

I love her very much. She's a good hang wise. And her get along very well. Get along famously. Yeah.

Did you think you're Johnny Depp?

Yeah. I wonder what the. I mean, that's, like, such a big question. What do you. Can you.

Nick Wiger

Can you give your general advice? We saw the Pirates of the Caribbean. Oh, yeah. We saw Pirates of the Caribbean. The ride we went on, it.

Claudia O'Doherty

It was pretty good. Yeah, I didn't realize. I mean, look, I haven't seen the movies, so I don't know what I'm talking about. But, like, it came. It was long before the movies.

Yeah, I know the ride came first, but I liked, you know, it's very rich storytelling. Yeah, it's good. Lots of alcoholism amongst the people on this island in the Caribbean. Yeah, they. Yeah, they changed it because there used to be, like, men chasing women and they changed.

Mike Mitchell

They got woke. It went broke. Whoa. It went broke. But they also added Johnny Depp, which inadvertently became its own sort of thing.

John Early

Oh, God. That's less woke. Have they. Have they kept him there? He's still there.

Mike Mitchell

He's still there.

John Early

Is he animatronic? He is. And it's actually a really impressive animatronic. Wow. Yeah.

Claudia O'Doherty

I thought it was Nick.

Mike Mitchell

And, like, wasn't really talking back to you, which is normal for Nick. He was acting very similarly. There's an animatronic Johnny Depp, like, picking up a turd in a bed. There's like. It's.

Look, we do need to talk chicken. Yes. So the point is, we love fried chicken. And we specifically have recently, I think, you know, I've been on a very Claudia led journey into the kind of glory of KFC. Sure.

Claudia O'Doherty

Because today I did the thing that I've always recommended. Yes. I brought a lemon. You brought a lemon? Yes.

And we cut it up. Where'd you get that lemon? From my fridge. Wow. It was actually two thirds of a lemon.

So I was walking. She literally. I live a long way away. I don't live anywhere near here. Yeah.

When I was walking into the offices, I had an exposed lemon and I was like, is it gonna get, like, contaminated by the air? Right? Yeah. They just said LA is the most toxic city in America. Isn't that cool?

Yeah, number one. Yeah, just air, et cetera. So cool. So anyway, squeezing lemon on KFC is really beautiful, divine. Do you not agree?

I made you all do it. It really perked up. You did? Yeah, it was nice. I don't like lemon chicken in particular.

Nick Wiger

You have an aversion. What do you mean when you say lemon chicken? Mitch has a food poison. I barfed a long time ago. Well, explain what lemon chicken is.

Mike Mitchell

Chicken cooked in lemon. Lemon chicken? Yeah, like a lemon pepper. What, so it's like a piece of breast pounded out in. Sauteed in a lemon butter sauce?

Yes. Is that what you mean? Yeah. Well, it's a completely different thing. Okay, I'm sorry, but those flavors.

John Early

Those flavors together. Maybe if Claudia left la, it wouldn't be as toxic.

Claudia O'Doherty

Lemon chicken. I just. That's like why I liked the fresh squeeze of lemon on the chicken. I thought I added some brightness. Yeah, some color acid.

Because we have got salt, we've got fat, and we've. There's only heat if you add hot sauce. But when she says heat, salt, fat. No, this is what tries to eat. Are we talking about the temperature we cook at, or are we talking about spice?

Mike Mitchell

Who the hell. Who are you talking about? Samin Nosrat. Well known cookbook. Yeah, there was a tv show of it as well on Netflix, the entire platform we met on.

John Early

Oh, my God. And you keep saying we and not looking at me. And I was on episode five of Love. It's true. That's how I cross over with birdie and randy.

Mike Mitchell

That's the issue. Were you in that episode? Episode five of Love the party episode? Season one. Party episode?

No, I was. I was in a fast food. I. Did I meet you later on? But I was in the episode.

No, I was in a fast food, like. Do you remember this? It was like a. What is it called when you sample. Stuff, you go to multiple places?

Nick Wiger

No, no, no. Market research. Yeah, my character was a market research person. That's right. So we met there.

Mike Mitchell

I guess that's probably what happened. Look, I don't know. I don't remember the story. I can't remember. All I know is that was one of tv's greatest love stories.

Nick Wiger

You were a couple, and you're reunited here on dope boy. Yeah, it's like. Damn it. Which just posted up with a high five and was not reciprocated. Wait, just insane.

So the five saucy nuggets. Flavors are honey Sriracha. Disgusting. Revolting. You liked one?

Two were good. Okay. I overall agree with you that there's one of them. You can thank your great continent for sticky chicken. Sticky Chicky is supposedly australian in origin.

There are three new sauces. They are honey sriracha, korean barbecue, and sticky chicky, which is a sweet and sour sauce. And then there are two returning flavors from the bench. Nashville hot and Georgia gold. Nashville hot, Georgia gold.

Both good. Their other three, disgusting. But when you say returning flavors, do you mean those were dipping sauces but now are being used in this? Is it a seasonal item? They had a seasonal sauce, and it was not for saucy nuggets.

It was for a different sauce. Saucy nuggets, totally new. Saucy nuggets is a completely new menu item. Two of these sauces are being reused in this new context, but they originally. You get, like, bone in bird or tendies with Georgia gold or Nashville.

Claudia O'Doherty

It's also. It's one I. Look, I know people are gonna really come for me when I say this, but I don't. Across all cuisines, my favorite thing is never something that's made crispy and then drenched in sauce that I do not have control over. Yes.

Mike Mitchell

This is our big issue. Claude. You hit it. You nailed it with the nuggets. The whole thing about nuggets, first off, is that they are finger food.

John Early

Yes. And these become, like, something that you need a fork for, or you yourself are gonna be sticky chicky finger food. You got your finger up there making your point right now. I just want to let the people. Know it's covered in sauce.

Well, they do know, because now it's filmed. Still. The bulk of our audience is audio listeners, so it's a good thing to bring up. Mitch, you can see your cardigan. Your cardigan looks great.

Claudia O'Doherty

The cardigan looks great. Thank you. And for the people who are just listening.

Mike Mitchell

You love fools talking about the cardigan so much. Oh, so when you like that reference. The core issue with the nuggets, they're not a finger food anymore. Now they're saucy, and they're going to cover your hands with goop. The other thing is.

Nick Wiger

Yes. The texture of them gets all soggy because you want something crispy that you can sauce before your bite. Control your orange sauce. Exactly. You get the right amount of portion, but now it just becomes this sloppy mess.

And the whole experience is like eating panda express orange chicken, but with your hands. Yes. The bummer that's what I was gonna ask. Is this, like, what is this referencing? It felt like.

John Early

Is it referencing, like, chinese food? I don't know. I don't think it's a korean flavor. I think they're sort of trying to get on the sort of korean fried. Chicken, which is very big.

Right. Sure. Yeah. Or maybe that's just.

Mike Mitchell

But is that something that. Was that one of the returning flavors. Or korean barbecue was a new flavor? No, there's three new flavors. Honey, sriracha, kind of green barbecue, and sticky chicken, square, sweet and sour.

Nick Wiger

But the. But, yeah. I mean, and you will come across styles of fried chicken like that. But korean fried chicken is not saucy by default, right? No, it's normally kind of, like, hot, like, nashville hot chicken.

John Early

It's, like, caked in, like, extreme batter. But does it have a. It's not always got a liquid sauce on top of it, I don't think. But, like, often. Often.

Claudia O'Doherty

And there it's been, like. So it's like some of it's got some sauce on it, and so you've got a combination of soggy and crunchy. Yes. I'll say this. The Georgia gold is the.

Mike Mitchell

Is the one that I. When we did. Went to this event together. Yeah. The Georgia gold was my favorite.

Claudia O'Doherty

It remained my favorite. Was it was the event like a bowl, a cotillion? Yeah. Were you invited? We actually were invited.

John Early

It was an, I would say, event. By the colonel himself. We were. What did you wear? We dressed as the colonels.

Mike Mitchell

We went as colonels. It was in Venice, so I wore something kind of beachy, but I don't remember specifically beachy. That's what it was. I had a blue polo and I had blue floral shorts. Oh, a man wearing blue.

Claudia O'Doherty

Revolutionary. The one color you all feel like you can wear. Okay, you know what? That's fired at all of us. We're all in blue.

I think I'll go for the blue shirt. I wear other colors that maybe not today, but I do wear other colors. I'm gonna just throw this out there. If you don't get in line today, you're banned.

Mike Mitchell

If you don't get in line for the rest of the episode, you're both. No. I've been such a good little boy.

You're both banned. If we don't get this right, we. Should form a band. That'd be fun. Do you play an instrument called the Humans?

Nick Wiger

Mitch has great pipes. Mitch is a very. I do.

John Early

It's beautiful. John can really sing. Really? Wow. Okay.

It's whatever.

Nick Wiger

I thought that I didn't like any of the saucy nuggets. Like, overall, I'm just like, even the flavors I liked, I was like, there's no reason I would get this. And as a control, I got attendee and just dipped it in some sauce, and I was like, this is a much better experience. And I don't even like the tender all that much. No, I'd much rather have their bone in chicken.

John Early

I wish I had. Honestly just kind of picked some chicken off the bone and dipped it in the sauce that I think would have been the very best version. I have to say, though, I am such a little flavor hoe that I kind of, that's what the pan should be called. Flavor ho. The which ones do we like?

Nick Wiger

The gold, Georgia Gold and Nashville hot. Georgia Gold and then Nashville hot. Those two. I like the flavor so much. Okay, here's a problem that I actually have with fried chicken.

Claudia O'Doherty

Okay, let's say it. And I think I'm curious, Claudia, for you to tell me the science of this. And I correct for this. And I imagine it's some sort of brining situation, but, like, I love the batter. And then sometimes I feel sad when I get to, especially white meat in fried chicken.

John Early

There's just a kind of watery, kind of nothing. Bland, bland flavor once you get through the batter. And that does make me sad sometimes. And I wonder how you can account for that. Dodger Stadium.

Claudia O'Doherty

Well, I think that is to do with brining or not brining. Are they? KFC is not brining. I don't think they'd be bright. I mean, who knows what they do?

Okay, we are having private conversations about something else we're doing. We're trying to talk about chicken. So earnestly talk about chicken on your show about chicken. It sounds like you're gonna ban us. Yeah, you're banned.

John Early

You're banned. You're banned from pasta girls. Yeah. And guess where we're gonna do pasta girls forever. Dog.

Mike Mitchell

Oh, my God. What a betrayal. Wow. Like, naughty dog. This is fucked up.

Nick Wiger

Yeah. Donna's flashing double birds at the producer's desk. Casey and Emma. This whole experience has been hell after a staff. You're really gonna be banned.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, you're banned. You're banned. I was being so good until then. I got really pissed off. You said, I love the batter.

I said, sounds like me at doctor Stadium. Nick really liked it. Whispered back and forth to each other. That's funny. So it doesn't.

You don't understand what you were saying, by the way. Showing off your cardigan. Now you're showing off these. Nice shoes. JM Weston's J and Weston.

Claudia O'Doherty

JP Press. What's up here? Whoa. What's that? Is it called J J Press?

J Press. J's all over the place. I gotta get early. J early. Wow.

Mike Mitchell

Are you also, as far as. Are you in. Oh, you today? I'm very late, man. But your.

Your name is John early. Yeah. So I was wondering, is that like, Scott Speedman? Is that like an albatross for you? Well, he's clearly.

John Early

I mean, he. I bet he's genuinely fast. Yeah. I think he even runs in Felicity. Remember, he runs around the track.

Claudia O'Doherty

Yeah.

Nick Wiger

Did you ever get, like. Because there was a thing in my. But he does get the worm because early bird. Because he's got it. He's got the juice.

Claudia O'Doherty

Yeah. He's got the juice. He's got it. He's got it. Oh, yeah.

He's got it. That's why he gets the worm and I come early.

Nick Wiger

Was that ever used against you, though? It was ever weaponized? Like, you're something and they're like. They were like. They're like John all the time.

That would be really annoying. Substitute teachers. It was always a substitute thing. Yeah. That's funny, because they have personality.

Yeah. Yeah. And they're, like, reading the role for the first time. It's like everyone's made that joke. Yeah.

John Early

No one's laughing. Yeah. Shit. She loses you for the rest of the day. It would be funny if you assume it's a woman.

Mike Mitchell

They. My dad was a teacher. My mom was a teacher. 50 50 chance. I thought that I was.

John Early

What did they teach? My dad taught history. My mom taught English. What's this hand doing over here?

Claudia O'Doherty

Making a move? No. On the podcast. Never.

Mike Mitchell

This is fucked up. I totally. From day one. I love. Let's keep this professional.

You're being crazy. Just because I stretched my hand around jemmy. It was up there. You know it. Check the footage.

Claudia O'Doherty

Check the footage. Delete the. Please delete the footage. I didn't do it. And we don't have to check the footage.

Nick Wiger

Right. You did kind of do one of these, though. You kind of put your arm back. I wasn't doing it. Now you're doing.

I was demonstrating what you were doing. You were way further. You were, like, way over here.

I had a kid in middle. There was a kid in middle school. There was a substitute teacher, and his last name was Christensen. The kid. And he was misbehaving.

Claudia O'Doherty

His last name was the kid? No, no, the kid's last name was Christensen. The substitute teacher had. The kid was misbehaving and said to Christensen, you're not being a very good christian, are you? Today it was a scandal.

Nick Wiger

Cause it's a public school. You have to keep them separate. But they were just joking. They were just joking. But he was also mad at the kid.

John Early

Yeah. Can I tell you the first time I put my arm around a girl in middle school, we were at, I think, Dunstan checks in movie. Of course. Or maybe it was. Is there, Eddie, is that was the other ape movie.

Mike Mitchell

It was one of the ape movies. Oh, wait, the one. Remember? Oh, Ed. There was Ed, which was the Matt LeBlanc pitcher.

Claudia O'Doherty

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think we maybe were at. Maybe at Ed. We were maybe.

John Early

They really don't do that. The guy I was with was like. Do you want gummy bears? And then I, like, reached my hand around, and then I just kept it up there. And then I just remember, like, so much sweat just coming out of my right arm, pouring onto her shoulder, basically.

Claudia O'Doherty

Nightmare. But that was my first time doing it. Did it work? I had my arm around it.

Mike Mitchell

I was in 7th grade, I believe so. Oh, what the fuck, dude? At that point, I was having crazy sex.

No, but you know what? I enjoyed the film.

Nick Wiger

Where were we with? Well, I was actually. Okay, so I was in the middle of saying that basically, like. Because as much as I really, really loved the addition of lemon, however, that was not provided by KFC. That's true.

Claudia O'Doherty

It was provided by me. It was provided by CFC. Yeah. And I worry if they tried to, like, put that into the menu, it would become some kind of synthetic lemon that they squirt onto the thing. Throw a pump.

John Early

Right. I was just thinking through CFC, but it's just Claudia instead of fried chicken. It's not like you. Cause your initials are actually chicken. Cfc.

Mike Mitchell

That works. Claudia fried chicken. It works. Isn't that what's in hairspray? Yeah.

Claudia O'Doherty

So it's bad association. Yeah. And now we're fine. The ozone completely re. They healed it.

John Early

Yeah. They closed it back up. But I just, like. I was excited. I know.

Textually, I know your complaints are very valid. And I wasn't like, I would never go back and get those, but, like, disgusting. I did like that flavor so much. And because of the sauciness of it, the flavor was very thorough. I was like, I like them, I think more than anyone else here.

But the flavors that I didn't like, I really didn't like them. Yeah. Sticky cheeky. Was disgusting. And you say that this is not an australian thing.

Mike Mitchell

You say that this is. I've never heard the phrase in my life. Maybe sounds like an american writing an australian line. Yeah. Here is the copy for what the flavor actually is.

Nick Wiger

A balanced combination of sweet and tangy flavors, including pineapple, garlic, vinegar, and chili. If you love the taste of sweet and sour, you're going to love this. The person at the influencer event told us, the rep at the influencer event told us that this was an australian flavor, or was or it was maybe popularized in Australia. All that said, even the flavors I liked, I would rather, instead of having to commit to a full order of one flavor, be able to ask, even if I'm paying extra for dippin cup, get some. Some different sauces, have, like, two or three sauces that I like, and then dip my order of standard nuggets within those sauces.

It's just a better execution of this concept. Yeah, I got an idea. Warm sauces, you get a bowl of warm sauce. That's fun. Yeah, I've got an idea.

Claudia O'Doherty

You shut the hell up.

Mike Mitchell

You hear this sound? That's the sound of a banhammer coming down on both of you. She said it. I didn't say it, but, you know, I did say that. I take it back.

Claudia O'Doherty

But he's my. But you know what? You know what my issue was? Squeezing that lemon on that lemon was too old. Tasted fucking old.

No, it didn't. It tasted fucking old. How many days? Ask everyone else. Did it taste old?

Mike Mitchell

No, you're fucking banned. It was a bit old. But what am I gonna do, throw out two thirds of a lemon after just slicing it off two days ago? Yeah, you could have warned me that you had a fucking old lemon before you squeezed it on my chicken. Well.

Claudia O'Doherty

GasPINg oh, yeah. I'm scared. Okay, well, food waste is really bad, so it's good for me to use an old lemon than to get a new lemon. I think the lemon made a tangible difference. I like the lemon.

Nick Wiger

I did not notice it being old. It wasn't. I was just trying to get her name. I know what you're trying to get. But here's my question with those nuggets we were having, is that the normal.

Claudia O'Doherty

Is a normal nugget a KFC these days? Because I'm probably thinking of the KFC nuggets I've had in Australia, which is not never what I would choose, because I would just go for the bone in. Of course. Me, too. Yes.

But, like, is that what they are or are these saucy nugs, whatever they're called? Absolutely disgusting. They are in a new shape. I believe they're the same form factor. Believe they're same size.

Nick Wiger

And KFC nuggets have famously been criticized for being smaller than the average nug, like, versus a Wendy's nugget or. But you're getting more batter. Like, getting more batter. Isn't that the whole point is to, like, actually become more and more disconnected from the real thing that you're eating? Yeah, I guess so.

Mike Mitchell

I don't know. Yeah, I guess. Who like chicken nuggets? Like a kind of more McDonald's. Like, synthetic.

Claudia O'Doherty

Yeah. But also, you're separated. You're going to crisp from those McDonald's nuggets. Yeah, it's a different thing, isn't it? It's like sludge in a little form.

Mike Mitchell

You don't like McDonald? No. We've talked about nuggets on the show before. You don't like pizza, though. You also have had an interest in pizza lately, so I don't know where you stand.

John Early

She has changed her tune on pizza, I will say. Let me guess. You like friends now, too. I do like having friends. The show friends.

Claudia O'Doherty

Well, I don't hate friends. I just was. What did I say about it? So this was a. We did an episode of our Patreon where we brought you on to talk about the Doughboys pilot, and it was because.

No, the friends pilot. The Friends pilot. I apologize. Yeah, we're not gonna talk about the Doughboys pilot. And Mitch had said, as a prelude that Claudia loves friends.

Nick Wiger

And then you came on the show, and you were kind of like, it's okay. Yeah. I'm like, I watched it. And then we had you on for pizza. You didn't like pizza.

Right. You've had me on for pizza. It feels like 50 times, but I. Believe it was once. But I do enjoy.

Claudia O'Doherty

You know what I really am looking for? What's that? An amazing mushroom pizza. No tomato sauce, cheese, and mushroom. Yum, yum, yum.

Mike Mitchell

If done well, but if not, if the cheap version of that is disgusting. Yeah, sure. Of course. Baja fresh. True food kitchen.

Claudia O'Doherty

Okay, that was gross. No pizza places. You did our McDonald's tournament. Yes. And then Jollibee.

Nick Wiger

And then you also did our pizza tournament. That's. You did the pizza. You did the pizza tournament twice. You had a few different pizzas.

Or munch madness. The slices. Right. Is she in the five timers club as a guest? Like SNL?

I guess so. If you count the no in the main feed for sure that the collab EPs with early.

And then if you include the Patreon where we did how you doin about the doughboys? Or, I'm sorry, the friends pilot. Oh, yeah. This is only my second, my third appearance. This is your third appearance?

John Early

Yeah, I did raising canes. That was a lot. And then we did Jollibee. Yeah. You guys have had the run of the fried chicken.

Mike Mitchell

Market it on the show. I've always been aiming to get here to the KFC. This is big. And I will say this. I don't know if this will never come on the show again.

KFC, has it ever made the golden play club? Nick, that's another question. If it hits the threshold of four forks or higher from Mitch, meet myself and the guests, or guests. Then it enters the Golden Plate Club. And it is there until it is removed on a subsequent review.

John Early

You. I don't think it's in the Golden Plate club. I'm just going to give a rundown of. Of everything that we had today. I got a big box, ten big Ben tenders box that came with five tenders.

Mike Mitchell

Mashed potatoes and gravy. That's the only thing that they forgot today, was a large mashed potatoes and gravy for you guys. Yes. And the mashed potatoes is very yucky as well. You know what?

I thought it was okay today, but. Man, I think they've fallen off. They have, like, 100% fallen off. But I thought that it was an okay version of it today, but they've fallen off from where they were. We got a large Mac and cheese.

John Early

Which is not good. I don't like it. Sadly terrible. You were lemoning the Mac and cheese. Yeah, I was.

Nick Wiger

I was shocked by it. Yeah. I mean, nothing to do. It needed something, like anything at all. It had zero flavor.

Claudia O'Doherty

It was just like a waxen plastic. Yeah. Cheeseless. Yeah. Utterly cheeseless.

Mac and cheese. I don't know if it's gotten worse or. The Mac and cheese always been bad. Boston market. I was just gonna say the Boston market was like.

John Early

It was that kind of. Of almost synthetic. I mean, it was. Yeah. But it was still good.

What is Boston market? I have to laugh to keep myself from getting pissed off. Boston market started as Boston chicken. It is a rotisserie chicken and sides concept, but it also has things like you can get, like ham and prime ribbon. It's honestly like clems.

Like the. It's served in the same way, like buffets or they scoop it for you. Yeah. Like family style dinner party. Oh, yeah.

Mike Mitchell

They've fallen. They've also fallen. A lot of their cultures, they're almost gone, I think. But that was huge in America when I was a kid. Yeah.

Claudia O'Doherty

So you like it? I loved Boston market, and it was a big thing. The Mac and cheese was like rotini or the caviar. Tapi. Yeah, yeah.

Mike Mitchell

And then rotisserie chicken. No, fried chicken. I like rotisserie chicken because I can eat pretty much the whole wing. Yeah. It's really.

Claudia O'Doherty

I love to eat the bone of a wing. What do you mean? What do you mean? Like, you know how a wing is this. It's like the fat section and then the pointy section.

Mike Mitchell

Sure. Yeah, this is the pointy. Like, this is the point. If you roast it well enough or you get a long enough cooked roast chicken, I eat that entire bone. No.

Claudia O'Doherty

Yeah. You're a bone eater. Yeah. Oh, my God. That act out looked like you were eating a gun.

John Early

I know. Imagine in America a gun that would. Actually be really good. You'd never got hungry. Exactly.

Claudia O'Doherty

You'd never go hungry. Thank you. Thank you. Anyways. That's a scary thing.

John Early

That's crazy, though, that you can eat the bone well if you cook it. Enough, because it just becomes, like, crunchy. Yeah. Right. I mean, I'm sure you have to be careful not to, like, pierce your esophagus.

Yeah. But I love it crunchy. Wow. Crunchy bone. I've tried to have, like, you know, I've had, like, shrimp where they say you can eat it with a shell on stuff like that, and I can't.

Mike Mitchell

I don't do it that well. No, I can do that sometimes. Stuff. Soft shell crap. Unless, like, guys.

Claudia O'Doherty

All right. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, sometimes it is delish, but other times it's like, what do you. What are you trying to make me prove?

John Early

I know. Sure. Yeah. I'm soft shell crab. It's got to be pretty soft for me.

Yeah. You want the crab to be soft? I want the shell to be soft, yes. I need it to be. I need.

Mike Mitchell

I need it to be soft. Yeah. Anyway. Is that your favorite chicken like, portion? The wings?

Nick Wiger

You had to pick one. Yes, I do like the wings, and I love to roast a chicken, and then I'm secretly just snapping the wings off and eating them before I give it to. You were really ready to go when I walked in. You were like, can we eat now? As soon as I walked in, because.

Claudia O'Doherty

I got in, I came here at 12:00 I was asked to. I was parking. There was no parking for me in the headgum offices.

Mike Mitchell

It's fucked up all around. I agree. Everything was fucked. Yeah. I was hungry, and I told you I wasn't gonna eat breakfast so I could really enjoy the food.

John Early

Oh, yeah. I didn't eat breakfast, but that's normal. But you never do. Cause you're trying to cut. Interesting.

Mike Mitchell

Wag's had a yogurt before because he talked about meal like this. What kind of yogurt are you eating? I do like, a full fat, like, a greek yogurt. And then I do like. I had some mixed berries I just.

John Early

Kind of threw in there. You should do a little drizzle of. Yeah, that's gorgeous. You should also put. Drizzle is very interesting.

Claudia O'Doherty

Seeds and nuts on there. That's so interesting. I've been having some issues with a nut. Walnuts are so good for the brain, and they look like brains. That is a lot of fun.

Mike Mitchell

Wait, what are seeds? Walnuts. Walnuts. They're great for your brain, and it looks like a brain. They also look like lungs, and they're.

Claudia O'Doherty

Great for your lungs as well. Sounds like you're lying on one of these facts. No, I have a bit of a nut intolerance I've developed as I've gotten older, so, like, I have to be, you know. What kind of nuts? Like, kind of everything I know.

Nick Wiger

You mean like a horny sort of joke? No, no, no. D's nuts. Oh, like a deez nuts. Yeah, we back it up.

Can we just, like. Yeah, we'll just head around. Okay. I've developed something kind of a nut intolerance lately. What kind of nut?

John Early

These nuts. Oh, I didn't know you were gonna. Yeah, I didn't know he was gonna pull. I like that you pointed. Okay.

Claudia O'Doherty

It's good to happen.

Nick Wiger

I know part of the bit. I know that I've never. I know that Nick has yogurt. Cause I'm on a yogurt text chain with him where he texts yogurt every time he has it. So I know that he had it.

Mike Mitchell

I've been. I had squirrel. A squirrel yogurt parfait a couple days. Like.

Nick Wiger

From the brand is squirrel. The company is squirrel. The restaurant is the restaurant squirrel. But do they make that, like, at the restaurant, or is it something that you get out of a fridge? No, they make it at the restaurant.

John Early

Interesting. And it was good. And what goes else in it?

Mike Mitchell

That famous moldy squirrel jam and then some nuts and stuff like that. It's good. It's been pretty good. I didn't eat anything. Before this, we had an eight piece.

Eight piece chicken combo. No combo, just an eight piece bucket. Yes. Yes. Some of it was extra crispy and some of it was a really.

We don't know why that happened. That is weird. That was an aberration. Yeah. Extra crispy versus original recipe.

Claudia O'Doherty

Yeah. One is pale and disgusting looking and one is golden and heavenly. Wow. The extra crispy is like the double stuffed oreo where you're just like, oh, it's gonna be great. Cause I get more of what I like to have it in practice.

Nick Wiger

Like, this is not as good. I don't want pale. It doesn't take. To me, it tastes like it is not the eleven herbs and spices. Yes.

Claudia O'Doherty

So like, it sucks. I agree. I don't like the extra crispy. And that's how the ten by default. No one told me that when I was digging through that bucket.

John Early

And that sucks. I made sure you got original recipe. I said to the bottom, thank you. Oh, yeah. It wasn't our fault.

Mike Mitchell

I think they gave us four and four. And I'm with you. You converted me. I think that jemmy may have farted. Just to let you know.

John Early

Okay. Just to let you know, look how sweet you are. I'm just gonna not breathe for a minute. Just do it through your mouth. How did you know?

Nick Wiger

Did you hear it? Did you feel it? I inhaled something. Oh, you smelled it. Okay.

Claudia O'Doherty

Himself farting and then he said it. That's not. I did not. I did not. I'm never gonna.

Mike Mitchell

I'm never. I'm gonna never blame Jemmy for far, ever. I still haven't breathed. You're. I think you.

You are good now. Can you imagine if, like dogs, we just had no shame about farts? It feels like they kind of. I don't think she has any shame. She'll just let her rip whenever it feels like.

They don't. They don't know why. Yeah, why are you laughing about that? No, because she said, could you imagine? I said, I.

Did you say, can you imagine if dogs had. Oh, no, no. If we like dogs, we were like dogs. Oh, that is horrible. That's kind of the way I think, man.

Claudia O'Doherty

We need to get there as a society and get rid of phones. Get rid of phones. This is Claudia's big thing lately. And I agree with it. It's the great scandal.

Lifetimes. It's stolen out. I think it has affected my vision. I have astigmatism now. Yeah, that's not good.

John Early

It's not. My dreams are literally just notifications I. Do a phone free Sunday. I don't look at my phone at all the whole day. Have it off, and it's the best.

Day of the week. Where does the Apple watch go? Around my wrist, but I'm not checking it. I don't check any notifications. No?

Nick Wiger

No. Kind of pisses me off that you're actually getting my texts on that fucking thing when I'm like, quick, I need to know today. On Sunday, I get notifications off. Oh, that's good. I don't see any.

Mike Mitchell

You know what? I appreciate your no phone Sundays. You put it in a dry. I like it. Everyone else, we're gonna have to get to no phone every day, though.

Nick Wiger

I love this. I know. Look, I'm just gonna say, how about, can we still call each other? Okay, this is what phones can have. Phones can have calls.

Claudia O'Doherty

They can have text messages. Although I would argue we need to get rid of texting, too. Okay, let's get rid of texting. I like it, but we need to get rid of it. We have to get rid.

Okay. It can only have calls. Maps. Yes. Calls and maps.

John Early

That's it. Wow. What else? Can. Can you have podcasts on it?

Claudia O'Doherty

Yes. You can have calls. Okay. This is the new phone we're calling. The phone is called flavor ho.

And it is only calls, maps, and podcasts. Our band. Okay. Flavor hose. Yeah, but, like, the bands putting out a phone.

Nick Wiger

Okay.

Mike Mitchell

Calls, maps, podcast, podcast. Music. Yeah. What do you want to eat? What if you want to go to.

John Early

I think, even get rid of the camera. Again, no social networking. No, nothing but maps. That is, like, the one thing I'm like, I do would love to have a map. Yes.

Nick Wiger

I. You know what? It specifically affecting restaurants. The QR code menu drives me bananas. We have to get up and leave whenever we see it.

John Early

And you have to unashamedly ask for a paper menu. Yeah, yeah. And I get really. I mean, and this is, like, not fair to, like, the waiter, but, like. But when someone hands me, or when it's a QR code, and I go, is there a paper menu?

And they go, no, sorry. I always get. I'm like. I'm always like, oh, that's so heartbreaking. Like, really nasty.

Nick Wiger

I get really nasty. I'm like, it's just we're all on our phones now. Yeah, sure. I get so angry, and then you're literally everyone's like, it's so annoying. It's bad.

Mike Mitchell

I agree with you. I agree with you. And yet you invented QR code. I know I did. Not invent you raking in so much money every time someone uses one.

I wish that I was raking money every time someone use a QR code. I would be a millionaire. How would I even begin to create QR codes with it? Just drawing them? Yeah.

I did not draw. I have nothing to do with QR codes. The app. The KFC app is decent. It's a decent app.

Claudia O'Doherty

Okay. That is one app you can have.

Nick Wiger

Do you do a lot of app ordering? Not with delivery or just in general? I know I only have, like, the delivery apps, but I don't have, like, the KFC restaurant specific ones. Yeah. Because there's a lot of fast food.

Like, I don't think KFC has a great, like, point system. A lot of them do have, like, good rewards. Yeah. Y'all know hard work on that. Um, that was good.

Yeah, I liked it. I said get hard work on that. The points. Okay, here we go. Wise, we got the eight piece bucket.

Mike Mitchell

It was half extra crispy, half original. I like the original. I liked the lemon. That didn't taste good. Lemon was great.

Squeeze onto the chicken. All the nugs. We kind of feel the same way on the tenders. I just want to get to the tenders. Yes.

The tenders were not good today. I don't like the tenders. I think there's something like them. I don't like them in general. They were.

They just. They felt a little bit like the bland. Bland and a little bit flimsy. Pale color. It was in the breading, wasn't.

It wasn't. It didn't have a right crisp on it. It was. There was. There was a lot of issues with them.

Nick Wiger

We also got the chicken little, which is like a chicken slider. I thought that sucked. I hate. It was disgusting. I was okay with it.

John Early

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm okay with it, because to me, it's quintessentially southern. Like, the. The blandness of that.

Of, like, chick of fried chicken and mayonnaise and pickle on a bunch. Like, I actually liked the pickle. I like the pickle. I thought the bun is just way too bunny. Yeah, the bun evaporated but was also waxy.

Claudia O'Doherty

It was. The bun was disgusting. I want to make sure we're talking. About the little chicken. We're not talking not.

Nick Wiger

The spicy chicken sandwich is a different thing. I was. We didn't. Nick and I didn't try the spicy sandwich. That was fucked up because I ate the most.

John Early

I ate it all. They had one bite at the restaurant. How was it. I have to say, it was my favorite thing I had today.

And here's why. Jimmy's favorite thing she had to date. It's just jeans licking up a storm over there. Really cute. She does this every.

Mike Mitchell

I don't get to wash these things if she does every week. Did you wipe your fried chicken hands on your jeans? Is that what happened? That's what I wanted Jemmy to lick me. So I wiped my fried chicken on my jeans.

Get real, Nick. That's ridiculous. Is your dog foot on your shoulder? How did it get it might be. Cat fur from my kitties.

All right, you guys are gonna give me attitude? I'm gonna give you attitude right back.

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We should. We gotta. Mitch, we're up against the clock. We gotta get to our. John's gotta get the hell out of here.

Mike Mitchell

He's promoting a film. That's right. Movies about. Well, we got a segment. We got a.

Nick Wiger

We got a feedback to an. We got a lot of bullshit to go through. We gotta get to our final. But I really like the spicy chicken sandwich. All I have to say, it felt like a hot chicken sandwich.

Mike Mitchell

That's their chicken sandwiches when they were pretty decent. And the new fries, I've got something to say about them, too. For it. They're okay. They're not bad.

Claudia O'Doherty

And I'm glad that there's a fry option over wedge. But still, I don't need these highly seasoned fries next to the most delicious chicken of all time. Just give me a normal potato fry. Simple fry, please. Got it.

John Early

Mountain Dew. Go. Oh, yeah. The Mountain Dew. Sweet lightning.

Mike Mitchell

Is that what it's called? That's right. I got it right this time. Sweet lightning. Sweet lightning.

Nick Wiger

This is a KFC exclusive mountain Dew flavor that we did talk about on the young brands all star game back in the terminal. Greece. Some of the. Greece. I think some of Greece was shot at not far.

Mike Mitchell

Marshall High school, I believe. Oh, yeah. The end of Greece. Wow. Yeah.

Oh, yes. The end of Greece. Yeah. A wap baba lubap. A wap.

Nick Wiger

Bam, bam, bam, boom. We go together when the car flies into the air. It's really fun. Does anyone want a Coke or a seltzer? I think Jimmy farted again, I believe.

Mike Mitchell

Or maybe she just yawned. I will stop breathing again. I'm gonna really quick get a Coke. But y'all keep rolling. I'll get you one.

John Early

Really? We also work it. We're gonna take a break after we give our final coke. Let's give our. Let's give it.

Nick Wiger

Let's give our final thoughts. KFC final. Yeah. So here's how this will work. We'll each go around, we'll say our closing argument, if you will, on this particular chain, and end it by giving a score from zero to five forks.

Claudia O'Doherty

And can I ask, are we basing our scores on the saucy nuggets or KFC generally? I'll say what I was planning to do, and I think this is a good template for everyone to follow, but you can make your own rules. I was planning on giving a separate fork score for the saucy nuggets. And then for KFC at large. Okay.

Okay. John early seated to my left. Your thoughts, your fork. Score. I have to say, and I'm going to keep talking as I receive the coke.

Nick Wiger

Did you want a coke? Heavy. That's what you want? Oh, I wanted it real. Wow.

Mike Mitchell

The best drink there is. I know. You said, ew. Yeah. I don't like it.

John Early

Oh, yeah. What do you do, like sodas at all? Not really. Really? What's your default beverage?

Claudia O'Doherty

Uh, water. You don't like. This is the thing. You don't like the effervescence, you don't like the sparkles. I love the effervescence.

And just like, I'm like, I don't have a sweet tooth. What happened? I swallowed it too fast. Oh, no. Ow, ow.

Okay, this is why I don't like it. It's burning. That's why.

Nick Wiger

Bitch. I'm sorry. We're sorry. We apologize. It's dangerous.

John Early

Oh, my God. We're sorry. This podcast is causing so much. Okay, so I once again just want to reiterate what I said, which is that I find there's something so thrilling to me about getting fast food, where you're getting sides, like, in a kind of family style way, like the Mac and cheese, the mash, instead of all these, like, little perfectly contained little, like, like, robot food feeling of other fast food. You know what I mean?

Yeah. So I just, I love KFC. I love the batter. I love it. I love the experience.

Even though, of course, there's, like, a, there's a blandness. I wonder what would have happened had I not been late and it was more hot. You know, the constant question. Same on top Chef. I'm like, what's hot?

I know. So, but, so how do we fork. Out of five forks? KFC. I'm gonna give four.

Nick Wiger

Wow. Wow. Is that too low? No, no, no. Oh, no.

Definitely. I don't think it's ever been in the golden play club. I might be wrong. Oh, I'm gonna give it four. And then the saucy nuggets.

John Early

I'm gonna say three. Wow, that's high. I know. That's higher than I expected. That's higher than I expected.

Nick Wiger

Claudia, your thoughts? Your fork scores. Okay. I thought the saucy nuggets were disgusting. The golden showers one was the best one.

Mike Mitchell

It's not golden showers because it was. The least sweet, and then the rest just got, like, pretty sweet pretty quickly. And I just don't want that. If I want something sweet, I'll have a chocolate ice cream. Oh, my God.

Claudia O'Doherty

That's. That's fair. I have an ice cream sundae or a slice of cake or a cookie with a glass of milk. That's fair. That's fair.

Okay. And in that spirit. Spirit of that, I gave the nuggets one fork, and I give KFC five forks because it makes the nicest chicken on planet Earth. Five forks for KFC. You have other.

Nick Wiger

Do you have other american chicken concepts in Australia? Is there a popeyes? Is there a churches? Is there a bojangles? Absolutely not.

John Early

Oh, my God. We've got oporto, which is like, there's. Gonna be months coming to LA if you don't give me that fucking episode. It's all yours. Yeah, you can have it.

It's us too. We'll decide if we wanna split you up or not. I feel like we might have more order if we just get one of them. Do we need to. Do we need to have equilibrium between the number of Claudia solo episodes and the number of John solo episodes?

No, no, I want to. I want to come back as a duo. Okay, great. I will only come back solo if Claudia dies. Yes.

Mike Mitchell

That's sweet. And I say the same about that. Yeah. Wow. That's sweet of you.

All right, fine. You know what? I've always said that. Yeah. If John dies, I will come back.

That is very sweet. And you know what? I will allow it. You guys now will always be booked together. Oh, my God.

Claudia O'Doherty

Unless someone's out of town. Oh, sure. Oh, dead Mitch. I looked it up. KFC.

Nick Wiger

And the three times we've given it a proper review on the podcast has never made it in the golden place. And you know why? Travesty. It's Mitch. Mitch has not gone higher than three and a half forks.

Mike Mitchell

Well, well, well. So I am going to go now, and I am going to let you take it home. And so you can. You can be the ultimate.

That's the truth.

What, you don't like this? Wise, you're up. You think you're the one we like. People would least suspect. I guess they probably thought it would.

Nick Wiger

Be the devil, if anything. What do my shoes are compared to John's? Hey, hey, hey, hey. None of that. You should get some nice shoes.

Claudia O'Doherty

What are you waiting for? These are new ones. I got some new ones. As far as feet are concerned, Mitch has his scuffed up old adidas. John has his lovely, lovely shoes.

Nick Wiger

Lottie has gone shoeless. A thing that most guests, the guests have never done is unprecedented. Mitch has now joined. No nonsense. And I've got my tootsies out of.

John Early

Wearing sandals with nail polish. I do. Yeah. I get a little petty. Did you do it?

Nick Wiger

No, I went to, how many toes do you have? Looks like six. I have five and five, but maybe the way they're arranged. Seriously, look like six. And you also counted them below the table?

Claudia O'Doherty

Well, they were squirming, so it was like, whoa, so many toes. I don't know. I don't want to give you a face full of my feet, but I have five on each foot. My shoes kind of smell after I took them off. Methinks the lady does protest too much.

Moving them so quickly, so we can't count. What'd you do? It's six. It looked like six to me. Now six toes.

Nick's got six toes on each foot. I'm fine. To start, this rumor doesn't affect me much. I am going to say the KFC saucy nuggets. Look, everyone over there at that event was lovely to us.

Were people enjoying them at the event? I don't think so. Did they provide forks for the nuggets? What's that? Did they provide forks for nuggets?

Nick Wiger

No, they were finger food, and they were a little sloppy. We're breaking down. We're breaking down that whole experience on a Patreon episode. Yeah, that'll be the episode. Okay.

John Early

Oh. Patreon.com doughboys.

Nick Wiger

I am going to give the saucy nuggets. I just think they're a flawed concept, and I think it's a flawed execution. That's insane. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I think.

No, I think it's not even a flawed execution. They're flawed at the conceptual level. They should not exist. They are a thing that should not be saucy nuggets for me are they know. It's a fucking year long thing.

John Early

There's no way it's a cash grab. It's a cash grab. They know. And that's what talks about these novelty ass, like, cinnamon crumbles or whatever, like pizza places. They're like balls.

Mike Mitchell

We actually were supposed to get apple pie bites, and we didn't get them. Oh, yeah. Ew. From KFC. I don't want the KFC apple pie.

Nick Wiger

I'm glad we didn't get them. You said, ooh.

John Early

Realize they're probably amazing. The saucy nuggets real quick. Saucy nuggets are one fork for me. KFC in general, there's just better fast food. Chicken is the thing.

Nick Wiger

There's just better fast food. Chicken in America, I'd rather have popeyes. But, like, by a lot, I think Popeyes is consistently a better product and a higher tier of fast food. And I also think Yum brands in general has fallen off a cliff and they are continuing their descent, at least stateside.

You scared? Jimmy, are you scared? Jemmy left the. She's going to weigerside. Jemmy, you're safe over here.

We offer you sanctuary. Sanctuary. Sanctuary. Sanctuary. Come on.

Claudia O'Doherty

Jimmy. Jimmy. Jenny. Jimmy. We won't yell at you.

Nick Wiger

Jemmy. She's coming back to decide that traumatized her. Come here. Come here. Jemmy.

There's no pillow anymore. Everyone stop being loud for jemmy. Jemmy. She doesn't want to sit next to your fucking six toes. Oh, my God.

Jimmy. Claudia, what have you done? Claudia, what have. What have you done? Jemmy has joined me on the couch.

Claudia O'Doherty

It was because of what Nick said about young brands. What a good girl. I love you, Jemmy. There's a warm spot where Jemmy once was. Demi will come back.

I can tell. We'll see. She wants to be here. I mean, she's not. She has not cozied up yet.

Nick Wiger

She is still. Remember how she was between you and her leg? All that tootin? I'm wondering if she needs to go outside. You might need to go outside.

I'm going to. Look, we're running out of time here. I'm just going to get to my forks. Score. I just don't think KFC is up to the standard it used to be.

And I also just think there's better fried chicken available here. And I think all the sides are bad poppers. I don't think there's any reason to go higher than three forks for KFC. And honestly, even there, I think I'm being charitable, but I just. Because the bone in chicken, I think, is still pretty competent.

Three forks for KFC. Mitch go last. Well, did you say what your devil. Is my bone in? Sauces.

John Early

Sauces. Oh, the sauce. My saucy nuggets is one fork. My. My KFC in general is three forks.

Nick Wiger

Go ahead. Does Popeyes have bone in chicken? They do, of course. You should try popeyes. You should try Popeyes.

I know. We should. Definitely. I've never had Popeyes. It's great.

Claudia O'Doherty

I've had Popeyes. We should do it. You gotta try it. I've only had chick fil a. Chick fil a?

Nick Wiger

I don't. I mean, you're from the south, so. You may have some. Well, chick fil a is why I like that little chicken sandwich. Right?

John Early

Cause it reminds me of like, the blandness of chick fil a. That is a good chicken sandwich. And their Mac and cheese is very good, I would say about chick fil. A. Popeyes introduced their chicken sandwich in recent years.

Nick Wiger

There's obviously this huge sensation. And I do love it. I did think it's a really good chicken sandwich. Yeah. Quite the curveball from you, wigs.

Mike Mitchell

I'll get to my final thoughts. My final thoughts. As I said, very good.

I actually came around a bit on KFC this time because of the lemon, because of our guests. It would have made the golden play club. Cause I'm saying four four. You're going up to four four. What's your score for the saucy nugs?

My score for the Saucy nugs is two. Two and a quarter forks. Wow. You went higher than I expected. I liked the Georgia gold ones because they were actually.

John Early

They sold your gold to gold because. They stayed the crispiest of the nugs. The rest seems fun to say it like that geogode. There you go. I knew you wanted to say it.

Mike Mitchell

Do it, Jojo Gold.

It was fun to say. Yeah. Everyone should say it. Make a video of yourself saying Georgia Gold. Send it in to Georgia gold.com.

We definitely can't get that one, I don't think. But we'll look. You could put the videos up on birdpluck.com. You could put them up. Yeah.

Nick Wiger

You know what, actually, yeah, send in. Send in your Georgia gold reads and. We'Ll put them on George. I think they have to live on bird fuck.com because I don't think we want to maintain two separate URL's, but we can redirect. Emma just let out a big sigh thinking of the fucking maintenance of the website.

Claudia O'Doherty

Bird pluck redirects to bird pluck. To bird pluck. So when you go to Bird pluck. It'S just go to bird pluck. It'll take you to bird pluck.

Whether you're plucking or fucking, you're going to the same place. That's true. We now own birdpluck.com. That's right. From that fountain of cash weiger referenced that we.

Mike Mitchell

It's going to birdpluck.com. I've had something in my eye for the last 20 minutes and I've not made a big deal about it. You need a break. And both of y'all stood idly by. Yeah, it's probably one of your cat's furs flying through the air and landing.

Wally and armor wouldn't do that, first of all. Second of all, we need to get this guest out of here. He has to promote his movie. It's called stress positions or whatever. Yeah.

Four forks. You go. Four forks. The Nuggets are a disaster. Give us a.

Claudia O'Doherty

I was right to scream. Nick, you've done a bad thing today. You did. You know, I could go up to four forks and put it in the Golden Plate club, but I don't think it belongs. I appreciate this.

John Early

We can't rig the show. No. All right, it's time for a segment. You're fine with extra toes but not extra forks? A normal number of toes looked weird to me.

Nick Wiger

Or do I? Six is normal. Everything's beautiful. All right, we've got some. Hey, we got food stuff.

We're gonna decide if you should put in your mouth. We got. It's snacker whack. And hey, we got some. Three different varietals of Kit Kat.

Now, here's the issue. Mitch, you and I are gonna have to share because we only got three because we thought we'd have one guest for this. Since we have two guests, I'm gonna give each of them one of these for themselves, and then you and I can split the third. So we've got three different Kit Kat varietals. Kit Kat white.

Not excited by that. There's four Kit Kat bars in each package. Yeah, that's why I open one. Kit Kat birthday cake. Now, I'm a big enthusiast of birthday flavor, but that sounds like a flawed concept.

And then Kit Kat chocolate frosted doughnut. I'm not complaining. Circulate these here. I'm just gonna pass these all over Mitch, and then you can hand me your leftovers.

There you go. So I get a one donut, one birthday, one white. This is really dangerous to be taste testing chocolate with nearby.

Claudia O'Doherty

Chocolate. She, like. She did. She even sniffed that when it was sitting next to me. No, she was very interested in kids, because I think that will be the nicest.

Mike Mitchell

I'm sure. I'm starting with a white, because I think it's gonna be the worst. Where do y'all stand on Kit Kat in general? I love Kit Kat. I do like Kit Kat.

Claudia O'Doherty

Oh, eat. Crunching into the microphone. Mm hmm. Where does the Kit Kat jingle rank among jingles? I think it's a pretty good jingle.

Mike Mitchell

Give me a break. Give me a break. Break me off. So that Kit Kat bar. Mmm.

John Early

I think this is disgusting. Yeah, I don't like it. Which one do you have? It does taste like a chocolate donut. Yeah, but just give me a normal Kit Kat, surprisingly.

Nick Wiger

Oh, no, no, you're fine. Kit Kat. White. Are that bad? It's probably simpler than the donut one.

Claudia O'Doherty

Is just, like, very sugary. It's got for people listening on the audio feed. All right. Mitch is tossing over a white I'm gonna hate. Wow, that was amazing.

Nick Wiger

Gotcha. Sorry. Okay, now, Don pulled Charles Woodson and intercepted it. That was really something. Kick out.

Claudia O'Doherty

White has chocolate between the layers. Yeah. He's a football man. There are two different as a winery now. Really.

The Wygery. Wow. I will say this looks very cute. It does look cute. Are you a birthday.

John Early

It looks like they cake this sprinkles are very cute. I'm at white, and I know I'm gonna hate this. Do you hate white chocolate? Birthday cake? Not good.

Nick Wiger

I don't hate the chocolate frosted donut. I don't think it's good, but I don't hate it. I mean, it's sort of impressive in that it does recreate the sort of flavor of a thin, insipid chocolate glaze. Yes, it does, but it's bad. Yeah.

I don't see any reason to get this over the default, which is always. My metric for birthday cake so far, is my bottom. It's bad. I'm gonna say that for last because I'm a big enthusiast. If you like white chocolate, you could get this, but I guess you would have to be deranged.

All right, I'm gonna have the white one now. Birthday cake is sucks. Sorry. Yeah, I still don't like the donut the most. I think the white one sucks.

Claudia O'Doherty

You liked but cake, John? I didn't like it. I just think that it's not as bad as possible. It's cute looking. Visually, it's cute.

John Early

Absolutely adorable. I know I'm gonna hate it. Okay, I'm moving on to white. So the birthday cake one has some little sprinkles in there. And then I was trying to say earlier, the chocolate frosted one is kind of separated into two different layers.

Nick Wiger

There's like a base layer and then a darker chocolate layer up there. Do you think if someone's ever playing a character in something and they've based it on you, John, the director might say to them, do it earlier. Yeah, yeah. Birthday cake's gross. And the camera turns around.

John Early

I'm the director. Could you do it earlier?

Claudia O'Doherty

Gemini.

John Early

So what's the game here? Do we rank on them? Yeah, we say snack or wild. It was just in saying that the white chocolate cat is my favorite. Me too.

Claudia O'Doherty

It kind of is the most successful one in that it just is what it is. And I'm gonna say wax across the board. These are all wax for me. Weirdly, I kind of like birthday the most, because you know what it reminds me of? One of those frosted, like, animal cookies.

Nick Wiger

You know what I mean? Yeah, of course. And that is a very specific texture. The tooth going through the waxy white chocolate into hard sugar sprinkle. But maybe that's what it is.

It's like biting into a memory. These are kind of suck. They're all bad. These are bad. They're whack.

Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Thank you. Was that you said, cat, merry Christmas.

Mike Mitchell

I don't have some sort of Santa. Yeah. Just because I got cast as Santa all the time. Is that what you're saying? No.

John Early

You could play big daddy in Tennessee Williams. What's that? Cat on a hot tin roof. Oh, yeah. We should do a revival of all four of us.

Claudia O'Doherty

Yes. Maggie the cat. Yes. I'm the alcoholic's closeted husband. The roof.

Mike Mitchell

I was curly in Oklahoma. Back in the day, I was curly. Wow. And yet neither of you have truly curly hair. Although do you, when yours is longer.

You actually do have curly hair. When I. Oh, my God. You with long curls. Oof.

Claudia O'Doherty

Grow it out. Give everyone a treat. It looks like shit. When I grow my hair out, I feel like maybe I will grow it out. This summer, my high school did Oklahoma, and I played bassoon in the orchestra.

Nick Wiger

Hey, that was snack or whack. Just like a restaurant. Value feedback. Let's open up the feedback. Today's email is from Dave and Burbank.

Mike Mitchell

Wow. Dave writes. Hi, Dave. Hi. In 1994, my best friend Joe quit the job we shared at McDonald's for $0.25 more per hour at the carl's junior up the block.

Nick Wiger

While being trained, Joe told his manager that as a customer, he often found a couple of fries mixed in with his onion rings or fried zucchini in with his cross cut fries, etcetera, and asked why that happens, to which she replied, oh, I like to walk by once in a while and toss a few wrong items into the other bins just to keep it fun for the customers, and proceeded to grab a handful of fries and throw them in with the fried zucchini. He couldn't tell if she was fucking with him, but he adopted the practice for the rest of his tenure at the restaurant. My question for everyone is, as the manager of a chain restaurant, what sort of fun extras would you add to your daily routines to keep it fun for the customers and staff? Love to you all. And thanks for the fun.

Little sunglasses emoji and a piece emoji. How about that? That's a dangerous practice because what if someone's allergic to potatoes? All fun and game until, until, yeah. You got a zucchini, a potato allergy, zucchini allergy.

Mike Mitchell

An onion allergy isn't the funnest thing. In the world, though, when you get that order of fries and you got a single onion ring in there. For those of us who don't have allergies. Yeah. Potatoes or onions.

John Early

Yeah. It's, I do think that is fun, and I'm glad. All right. Okay. And now Jon's arms up around me.

And for the people who are just listening, sorry. No, but I think that's fun. Yeah, I think it's fun too. I think it's fun. I think it's fun.

Mike Mitchell

You know, what would we do? The question is, what would you do? The question is, they're asking us to invent something. I'd say there was coke. Really be Pepsi.

John Early

I put cake on menu, but I'd be secretly serving Pepsi.

Claudia O'Doherty

Every time anyone ordered water, I give them chocolate shake. That's pretty fun. That's fun. I think that I would, Nick, you know what I would do? Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

I would give people surprise dessert sometimes. Ooh, dessert. They've not ordered dessert. And you get a dessert. Yeah, that's, you got a little piece of cake.

Sometimes people do, you know, I feel like that's the thing I've gotten the most of, like, gone to a restaurant, I'm being very nice to the waiter or waitress. Yeah. Trying to get their number. Not trying to get their number at all. That's not true.

That's not true. Claudia, maybe Claudia and I went together and I had a crush on a waitress, but I didn't ask her for her number. Oh, wow. It's the truth. I would never, I didn't do that.

John Early

There's nothing wrong with asking for a number. That is true. I think for a service employee can sometimes crush. Yeah. I don't want my job.

Claudia O'Doherty

And the people who are, like, paying me based on how nice I am to them are awesome. Right. I guess it would have to be after the check. After the check's been paid. Yes.

You have to leave your number for them. Yeah. And then they can just throw it in the truck. And they can throw it in the trash. Yeah.

We used to collect them. That's funny. You know what you do? You leave your sunglasses there, and then you leave, and then you come back. It sounds insane.

Nick Wiger

Like, I forgot my sunglasses. With the money mitch spends on sunglasses, this is not a good plan.

Mike Mitchell

So hold on a second. I forgot my sunglasses also. I love you. What are you supposed to do when you come back? No, you just take it from there, you know?

What's that? I clogged the toilet. And then I go, oh, my God, I clogged the toilet and it's overflowing. But I go, and I'll come back in the morning to help you guys clean up. That's the way to do it.

John Early

So romantic. Do you need me to sleep over at yours tonight? So it's easy for me to come in with you tomorrow to clean it up. We can get, like, breakfast on the way or whatever. In terms of fun things at a restaurant, I always appreciate a little personalized message written on something.

Nick Wiger

Like, on my cup, if there's just, like, my name, but then it's like. Nick, don't come back. But then there's a little smiley face or something. Don't come back. Stop forgetting your sunglasses.

I'm a model customer. Oh, there was something, though recently that I got takeout from, and they wrote, like, was that with you? And they were kind of like inspirational messages. Like, with marker. Yeah, like.

John Early

Like, you made a good choice today. Yeah, fuck you. Don't condescend to me. Fuck you. I hate that shit.

Nick Wiger

You know what I like is a good sit down place, is a good waiter bit, but I wish there were some new ones. Can you only go waiters? Like, I finished your whole thing. You clearly hated it. Yeah.

And I'm like, yeah. Oh, my God. I give it to them every time. I love it. I always.

John Early

I go crazy. Yeah, I got. We got. We got one up in Ojai where we had. They were asking about a dessert, and the guy was like, oh, it's fine.

Nick Wiger

It's good. It's vegan, it's gluten free, it's sugar free, it's dairy free, it's flavor free. I was like, that's really good. That's pretty good, though. He's shit talking the menu.

He's shit talking the menu. But he's also like, I'm being honest to you, which is, like, a fun a thing you want from your server, you know? Yeah. Hmm. Any other fun things that the waiter or waitress.

I've tried to get this one started, which is like, I've talked about this in the podcast before, and maybe there's a context to get work in a restaurant. But, like, if someone, like, orders, like, a really healthy item, like, if someone orders, like, a. Like, I'll just do the mediterranean salad. I'm on a diet. You could hit him with, like, I tend to yo yo diet yo yo.

Give me that burger.

Mike Mitchell

Yo yo as if it's 1993. But, John, don't you say something all the time? You have a bit that you always give away, and they never understand what you're doing. Oh, wait. Yeah, I got.

John Early

Oh, oh, the allergy thing. What is it? Whenever they're, like, any allergies or I go just to fakeness. Oh, that's funny. That's funny.

Mike Mitchell

That's really fun. Yeah. Because also, like, fakeness isn't really. You don't hear anything else. It's like, the most serious question they have to ask.

Claudia O'Doherty

And then you're like, what? I know what I would do. Yeah. I'd say, open your mouth. And then I'd shoot some of their drink in.

Mike Mitchell

Through a straw into their mouth.

Claudia O'Doherty

Wait, you do that to waiters or you want waiters to do that to you? If I was a waiter, yeah. You doing it today? If I was a waiter, I ate some of it, and then I spit it into them. I was like a bug.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, that's fun. I do do a thing often where if there's, like, a tiny little, like, like a spill or crumb or something on the. I'll ask for it to go. That's like, a little. That's really fun.

John Early

It makes me laugh. It's funny. I used to as my little thing when I was done with my food, like, but I've had, like, a little bit of pancake left. I'd carve it into an n, like, my initial. Whoa.

Nick Wiger

And so I'd leave a little n on the plate kind of unsettling card. I forgot about my all time favorite bit that doesn't involve the waiter, but the table next to is asking for a bite. Oh, yeah. That is really fun. It really makes you laugh.

John Early

It's just like, total stranger. Like, can I have a bite? That's very true. I feel like if a waiter, if he was feeling the energy, if the waiter did that to you, like, you could maybe get away with it, but you'd have to really be, like, syncing with the family, whoever the party was. That would maybe scare me.

Mike Mitchell

Cause there are psychos in the world who maybe would just ask for a bite, so I'd be afraid to do it. I got a phone call. Well, it's good timing, Mitch, because Auburn. California, don't know who it is. All right, here we go.

Nick Wiger

It's good timing because we gotta get Jon out of here. If you have a question or comment about the world of choice chain restaurants, you need meals at feedback@birdfuck.com. Or leave us a voicemail. Eight, 30, go, Doe. That's 8304-6368 and coming up next month on doughboys.

Double. Last year we did mank, our month of on David Fincher's filmography for May. This year, it's back. Mank. Two pink.

A full month about the films of Alexander Payne. Starting this coming Tuesday with the Tracy flick of podcasting, Jess McKenna on election make two pink only at Patreon slash doughboys. Neither of you are banned. And also, Nick, we gotta have them plug. Yeah, I know.

Let me get through the fucking end of show business. Our producers, Emma Erdbrick. Our associate producer is Emilio Marino. Our engineers, Casey Donahue. Our video editor is Mike Dorfman.

Our guest, Claudio Dougherty. John early. Please plug whatever you wanna plug in. Thank you for giving us so much of your time. Oh, my God.

John Early

Thank you for having us. I wanna say that my movie's trespositions is in LA at the. I'm panicking. The landmark sunset. It's in New York.

At IFC. It's in Albany, New York. It's in Atlanta. It's in Austin, Texas. It's in Cambridge, Mass.

Chicago, Illinois, Columbus, Ohio, Denver, Colorado, Philadelphia, Pa. Oregon, San Diego, California, San Francisco and Tampa, Florida. Stress positions, released by neon, starring me. Wow, you're starring in this movie. Congratulations, stress position.

Nick Wiger

Check it out. Very exciting. Yeah, I don't think I really have much to plug right now. That's okay. And that's chic.

Claudia O'Doherty

Really exciting. I was just trying to help. He went crazy on me. I know. Just fucking trust me.

Mike Mitchell

If you find an end card into a pancake later and I'm missing, you know, what's happening. That'll do for this episode of Double Ice and not next. Time for the spoon by Mike Mitchell. I'm Nick Weiger. Happy eating.

Nick Wiger

See ya. I'm your host, Jon early. And I'm your host, Claudia.

Hey, buddy. Want doughboys? Merch? We're talking hats, shirts, sweatshirts, patches, glasses, all sorts of stuff. Aprons.

It's all available@kinshipgoods.com. Doughboys. That's kinshipgoods.com doughboys.

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Claudia O'Doherty

That was a headgum podcast.

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