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Well, it winds from Chicago to LA, more than 2000 miles all the way. Get your kicks on Route 66. In 1946, the Nat King Cole trio released their single Route 66, and the Bobby troupe composed ditty sped to the top of Billboard's archaically named race records chart. In the years since, the song has been covered by Chuck Berry, Bing Crosby and the Andrews sisters, the Rolling Stones, Tesh mode, and, of course, John Mayer for the end credits of Pixar's cars. Authorized by the Federal Aid Highway act of 1921, opened in 1926 and fully paved via new Deal infrastructure funding in 1938, the titular highway that connects the Windy city to the city of Angels would shape pre war interstate commerce as well as hasten the rise of american car culture, for better or mostly for worse.

And back in 1946, near Route 60, Six's west coast terminus as drivers neared the Pacific Ocean along what is now West Hollywood's Santa Monica Boulevard. One might see a sign over a roadside stand advertising, no lobster, just burgers. First opened as Queen's burgers, the restaurant has operated for three quarters of a century via a baton pass of ownership. The now titular Irv Gendis bought the business from its founders in 1970. Sonia Hong assumed stewardship in 2000, becoming a local celebrity in the process.

And following its closure in 2018 in 2022, La restaurateur Lawrence Longo purchased a stake to pull the concept out of post pandemic oblivion with famed fans like rockers the Clash, Jim Morrison and Linda Ronstadt. Ronstadt even used a photo of the Burger Shack as the COVID art for her album living in the USA. The eatery is as much a part of music history as the Nat King Cole Road trip standard. Today, with four Southland locations and one outlet in Las Vegas that you can drive to via route 66, it still offers burgers, pastrami and fries prepared just for you in the handwritten parlance of owner operator Sonia Hong. So if you pull up today, nearly 80 years since its founding, you can still get your licks on route 66.

This week on Doughboys IRvs Burgers.

Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co host, Burgers ate three, the Spoon man, Mike Mitchell. What? Here's a fun little roast to celebrate Mitch's love of Baldur's gate three. Thanks, Max.

Thanks, Max.

Mike Mitchell

Our guest doesn't know this yet, but this show is also like a, kind of like a comedy workshop, I guess. Yeah. People just try stuff out and we give notes. Roastedbirdfuck.com Baldur's gate three, a game that I have spent a lot of time with and you have not played. And so the max is making.

How many hours, do you think? How many hours have I spent? Yeah, I can look it up in the steam store, but it's over 300. Cause I played through the full game twice. Yeah.

So wait a minute. When my plumber said he was going to the steam store, he was going off to just play video games. He was crapping the toilet, giving the. John a test run. No, he was going to.

He's going to buy video. This is ridiculous. How many hours have you gotten in there? I mean, it will probably take you too long to look at it. Let me see.

Nick Weiger

I don't know. I might have deleted map from my phone. Let me see if it's. Can I get 5 hours? Sorry, I'm going to go over.

Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

500 hours. It's not 500 hours. It's north of 300 hours. I don't think it's 500. 350.

Nick Weiger

We got 350. Any other guesses in the room? Fucking auctioneer. 351. I'll do 400 in case he goes 400.

Mike Mitchell

You always felt bad for that guy in prices, right? Who, like, did the over? But then the one other guy's like, I'm last, you idiot, and, like, took the. All right, let's sort by playtime here. We've got, you know, FTL, Stardew Valley, civilization six, of course, honeypot and hunie pop.

Nick Weiger

Two, the hentai puzzle games. More hours than Baldur's gate. Baldur's gate three actually, is number one. Playtime. What was your guess?

400. And then who else had 300? 5351. Sam's gonna take it. Exactly 368.9 hours.

Guest gets into the showcase showdown. Great. This is the bad news is that the showcase showdown is the podcast, which sucks. You have to now do the podcast, man. I was planning on dipping.

Sam Brown

I was out of here. It's a great game. It's my favorite game. I love it. Baldur's gay three.

Nick Weiger

Yeah. Great game. More than ocarina of time. Breath of the wild. Wow.

Sam Brown

People say it's like dungeons and dragons. It's like that. The video game. This is the thing. And for me, I like turn based combat.

Nick Weiger

For some people, turn based combat is like a huge hurdle to get over. But I think even if you don't like turn based combat at all, it's turn based. Turn based? Yeah. Even if you don't like turn based combat, just crank the difficulty down to story mode and just play it for the story.

Cause the story and the role playing is so engaging. Incredible level of writing, great voice acting. I'm afraid to hear what honey popping is. Don't worry about it. I don't think I do want to know, but what was your second most played?

I played probably FTL or stardew Valley. FTL. Is that, like, little, like, kind of eight bit game where you're like a spaceship and it's like open universe kind of thing? It's a roguelike basic. You're basically piloting a version of the Star Trek Enterprise through a bunch of different star systems and trying to survive.

Mike Mitchell

I gotta tell you, your hat is the most appropriate hat I've ever seen you wear. I'm wearing. For audio listeners, I'm wearing a corny hat. This is from our friends at the dynasty typewriter, and it advertises their popcorn. But, yeah, it is very on brand.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get one of those. What the fuck? Didn't talk. Looks like it's missing a.

Sam Brown

It needs a string, right? Does it need a string? It should have one of those strings. It looks like it needs a string. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. This guy needs a string. Do you, like, put stuff under there? No, but I could. I could.

Nick Weiger

I should stick cigarettes under there. Yeah. Fuck, that'd be cool as hell. It would be pretty cool. Yeah.

Sam Brown

Hey, everyone. I smoke old style. Cigarettes are back. Cigarettes are back. Bring them back.

Mike Mitchell

Honestly, I think it's kind of embarrassing to wear without the string, but, I mean, you can keep wearing it. I think. I think the dynasty typewriter is pretty good merch, honestly. So I'm not gonna. It has good merch.

Nick Weiger

Swipe at them for not having to string. Oh, my God. Can't be mean to the comedy theater. They're always so upfront and good about everything. Comedy theaters as we know.

Mike Mitchell

It's true. It's true. Faults of the earth run these facilities. They're doing God's work. Exactly.

No advantages taken of. Yeah. All the money you're owed is always just given to you. We know how these dealing with these venues works. Jemmy is tentatively staring at the seat.

Nick Weiger

Maybe Jemmy is waiting for you, Mitch, to play the drop so we can get on with the episode. I gotta be honest with you. I don't think Jimmy knows the drop. I think she was waiting for that. Yeah, she was waiting for that.

Mike Mitchell

Pat the little which I permission, Pat now. Cute. I'll give the permission to you wise to play the drop. Well, I don't play the drop. I'll take that as well.

Emma with a drop. I didn't want to say. I give Emma permit. Remove your hand from the box and you die. What's in the box?

Nick Weiger

Pain.

Mike Mitchell

Dune man. The doom man. Dune man is here. Mitch is being annoyed. Dune available.

Nick Weiger

Dune boy available for a limited time. I'm doom boy.

I was wondering if there was some logic behind it. No. Okay, enough.

Sam Brown

Ooh. It was. That was pretty good. I didn't love Dune two, so they all got mad at me. Or not that mad at me.

I don't know. Think that the definitive Dune is the Sci-Fi miniseries. My dad has said that he really likes the Sci-Fi miniseries that I've never seen a fucking. It's. I can swear, right?

Nick Weiger

Yeah. You can say, oh, yeah, you can say anything. Yeah. Yeah. The Dune miniseries is like a book on tape where they were like, hey, the book was really good.

Sam Brown

What if we just took no artistic freedoms with it, right? And just kind of did the book, and it's like, oh, yeah, that's a great idea. It's kind of like that. I think the hitchhiker's guide had like a BBC, like, audio, like a radio series that was just basically the same. Was like a transcript of the book, but just acted out.

Nick Weiger

Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes that's a good thing to do. Right. That's the smart thing.

Mike Mitchell

I want. I gotta. I was so, so on. I liked Dune one more than I liked Dune two. Yeah.

Nick Weiger

Which is a fair stance, but I. Don'T know, everyone went crazy about it. It's casey's favorite movie. You've still only seen it once. The one time, though.

Mike Mitchell

I gotta see it. Yeah, see it again. See it in 70 millimeter. Imagine. See it again.

Nick Weiger

I don't think you could see it on 70 millimeter. Wait, really? I think that the run is done. What did they put in there? It's on streaming now.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, it's on streaming now. Now it's like it's fall guy for me. Oh. Mitch. Who sent in the drop?

I was just about to read it. We were just getting into other stuff. Hi, Doe boys and doe girls. Dune two is the best. This drop isn't.

But please enjoy. Anyways, if you're in Seattle, check out my music at call. Dot it dot mango and headlessbastard. Cheers, Jack. Wow, thanks, Jack.

Thanks, Jack. Do you think that has anything to do with the Chris Catan character Mango? Remember Mango? I hope that he is making songs about mango. I heard Mango's back.

Nick Weiger

Mango's over cigarettes. Mango is back. Mango's back. You said, mitch, you said permission Pat earlier. Permission Pat could be a Chris Catan character.

Sam Brown

Oh, yeah. Just giving people permission. Permission. Laughing. Everyone would be laughing.

Nick Weiger

We'd having so much fun. Permission Pat. Hey, permission Pat. Can I use the copy machine? Permission granted.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, yeah. He's just an office guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But different from the characters Pat and the copy machine gun, right? Totally different.

Sam Brown

Different between those two. His name is Pat. He mans the copy machine, but he's completely different. It does seem a little confusing that there's the copies guy, Rob Schneider and Pat. Who played Pat.

Nick Weiger

Julius Sweeney. Julia Sweeney. Great comedian. Yeah, but this guy is a different thing. But named Pat.

Mike Mitchell

All right. Yeah. I mean, it works. Hey, you know, it could work. Can't question success, you know, like, you.

Nick Weiger

Can'T question the success of permission Pat. Yeah. Dropsirdfuck.com. Our guest today from the whitest kids, you know, now streaming free on shout tv. Check it out.

Sam Brown is here. Hi, Sam. Wow. Hi. Hey.

Sam Brown

Thank you for having me. Thanks so much for being here. What a hoot. So excited. That's very exciting news.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. There's always a fear with sketch comic books that maybe they'll shows that they'll fall into a black hole of sorts. That's always the thing. It's just like, you're making something, and especially if it's on the Internet, it's like, oh, well, I guess people will be able to watch this forever, and they're just like, oh, wait, no, it's just gone. You asked me, like, where can I watch birth boys?

I don't know. Where can I get season two of the birth of boys? I don't know. Good luck to you. Buy a DVD in 20.

Nick Weiger

1515. I don't know where I could find that. You know, like, you're like, there's a period where I was like, if I wanted to watch season four of white as kids, I don't know. I don't know what I would do. I could probably figure it out, but it would be, like, too many phone calls to do it, and I've seen it already.

Right. I like that it's for your viewing. Yeah. I don't need to see this again. I've seen it.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, that's great. That's great news. That's very exciting. Yeah. I'm very excited because also, I mean, we live in the world where, like, it seems like everything is at our fingertips, and it's so easy to be like, oh, I can watch anything at any time.

Sam Brown

So it's kind of unique that our show has been, like, kind of gone for so long. Or, like, the only versions of it out there have been these, like, 480 p YouTube videos, some random person uploading. Well, it's great, too, because people find it. Whatever. That's like, how we with birthday we look.

Mike Mitchell

Sam and I have a lot in common. We've been friends for a long time. We've taught we will get into a lot of it. Yeah, but that's for us, too. It was like, we always, like, liked when people would pirate it and put it up because, like, all right, people are seeing it, at least.

But Nick and I have talked about this before. It's like, back in the day where you're like, I did a comedy. Like, I did a video for Nissan. It's gonna live on the Internet forever. Just not true.

They. Yeah, so much stuff disappeared, which is funny, but then as you got paid, like, $20 to do it, right now it's gone. So, like, there was no real plus. Like, oh, at least here's this work that I did. Even though it sucks and it's a.

Sam Brown

Commercial, this will be my calling card for years. Yes. Yeah. Even though the Nissan Juke Scott gearner directed. Not bad.

Mike Mitchell

It was good. I'm sure it was a good spot. I probably saw some point. I will say that the, that, that, yes. But, but, but, like, you know, ads are one thing, and you work on that branded content, you're like, oh, man, this is embarrassing.

Nick Weiger

Whatever. People will watch forever, and then it just disappears. You're fine. But, like, when it's something you actually created and, like, care about and, like, this is my, you know, artistic expression. If I can not be too highfalutin here, it's like, that's just a thing to what you guys are saying.

You just want people to be able to see it. You don't really even give a shit about monetizing at a certain point. You just want it to be out there. Totally. And it's funny, too, because there's.

Sam Brown

There's, like, at that point, there's, like, really two groups of people. There's people who are, like, fans who are actively seeking it out and they can't find it, and you want them to be able to see it, but you also want to introduce new people to it. And it's crazy that I remember when we first got the show, especially, there's a point when you're in your early twenties that you're like, especially, like, I think for us, when things were a little different, it was like, all you have to do is get on tv. Get on one of the 200 cable channels. Right.

And then you're set. Yeah, you've done it. Yeah, it's takeoff. Yeah, yeah. That was interesting for.

Mike Mitchell

We felt the same way, too. When you're like, oh, tv's dying. It was interesting to see. Yeah, right. Interesting to experience that firsthand.

Sam Brown

But, like, yeah. So then you do it and you realize, like, oh, like, you know, like, there's plenty of stuff that, like, makes it to a level and then just goes away. Yeah. And then it's been interesting to have, you know, to have to actually, like, live through this thing where you're like, oh, people. It's, you know, to go through that period where there was a point where we were a show for young people, we were on fuse, which was like, you know, like the 30 seconds to Mars channel, basically.

And it was like young emo kids were like, oh, we know, you guys. Yeah. And then to go through that period where those kids all grew up and all of a sudden, young people were like, I don't know who the fuck you are, right. And then like. But like, to actually have to still get, like, people coming up to you and young people coming up to you and being like, hey, I just watched all your stuff and are, like, messaging you online and being like, yeah, I really liked it.

It's like a really cool thing. And to know that not everything is equal in that way. And to actually be like, oh, it's okay for me to be proud of this thing. Sure. Yeah, right?

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. Because you always are dealing with it, being like, oh, it's not enough people have seen it or something. I get that for sure. But still having those people who are like, hey, I just discovered it. It's good.

Sam Brown

Even people that we're friends with, people here in LA that we're friends with will be like, hey, I actually just watched your show for the first time and this sketch was really funny, right? Yeah. Man, where the fuck have you been? You didn't think I was funny till now? Wow, okay.

I liked your Channel 101 show.

Mike Mitchell

I mean, for those fuse kids to see, you know, their band leader go from, you know, like an emo guy to the Joker, I mean, it's kind of crazy wise. Yeah, really, our cool emo. And then now all of a sudden, he's the joker. He's sending fish packages of fish to people. Fish heads.

Sam Brown

You know, for a second I thought you were making some analogy about Trevor. Oh, my God. No, no God. Cause he went from this he's 30 seconds to Mars, 1 second, and then the next second he's the joke. And I was like, what are you talking about?

Mike Mitchell

I guess Trevor Moore, rest in peace, very funny guy and a very funny genius that you worked with. And the guy, I knew you the most of all those guys. And I knew that guy just a little bit after you, but then not too much of the other guy, Zach, a little bit, but then no one else. Really. Yeah.

But you guys were the la guys. I'm the important one. That's why you're here. Why you're with the dobles. Can we talk about.

Nick Weiger

Because you're here in LA now, but you are from sandwich mass. Sandwich, Massachusetts. Yeah. Sounds like a. Sounds like a mitch roast.

Sandwich mass.

Mike Mitchell

My parents shared a cape house in sandwich mass. I've told you about sandwich mass. Yeah, you've forgotten. And you made the similar jokes. I'm also eating, by the way.

Nick Weiger

What are you eating? Raisin and a peanut oh, fun. One of the classic duo raisin and a peanut. And those are just. You just kind of grafted them together between your fingers to make it into one bite.

How's it tasting? Grafted it together between your fingers? Yeah. Like, you kind of smushed them. You made a little sandwich out of.

Mike Mitchell

It, iced them up. I mean, yeah, right. But you had the way you were holding them. You were like. You kind of made them into a.

Nick Weiger

You were very surgical. It seems like you're making me, like, a monster hands, which I have anyways, so now I don't. Now I'm self conscious. I gotta hide my hand. I read this article years ago, and the title was.

The title was so good that I was like, I wish I had the means to buy the rights to this and write an adaptation for it. Cause the title was porno machete murder, and it was about this guy who, like, went on a rampage. It was on the news, like, this was, like, 15 years ago. Who gonna be your autobiography?

Sam Brown

Oh, that title's so good. What do I gotta do to make that my autobiography? It was a guy who was like, there's a term for the kind of men who, like, don't act in a lot of pornos, and they just are, like, kind of around. And sometimes if there's, like, a scene that needs multiple men, they'll go get one of them and pay $50. In the same way that one of us would appear in a Nissan juke ad in, like, 2010.

Nick Weiger

It's that equivalent. Would they be, like, a porn actor? Like, they would do the. Or would they be, like, an extra? They were, like, an aspiring, like, porn actor who would sometimes get some opportunities to perform.

Anyway, there was this one guy who was just, like, called a mope, and then he actually was his name. He called mope. Everyone was called a mope around the set. These guys just kind of mope around the set hoping to get cast in something, and they don't ultimately work sporadically. Sounds like these guys are not doing it for the money or the career, for the access to porn actresses.

I'm sure that's a huge part of it. That's why they're willing to just sort of lurk around for the hopes of getting $50. So it's like Susser with coming to our lunches. Yeah, Susser. Right, exactly.

Who actually came to our Ervs burgers meal. Yeah. Anyway, it's all right. I was like, whatever. We'll get into how it was.

The story's amazing. The titular murder happens as one of these guys ends up having one of these mopes, ends up having some success because he kind of looks enough like Obama to be in the Naylon Palin spoof. And so he has a prominent role for the first time. He's in Nalin Palin as Obama, but he has a lot of psychological issues, and at a certain point, takes a machete and, like, goes after and, like, hacks a bunch of people and then, like, dies suicide by cop. It's really brutal.

But the reason I brought this up wouldn't happen under Biden. I'm the one guy who likes Biden, not Obama. Yeah, but the Obama. The Biden porn actor's great. Yeah, that guy's a pro.

I've been around forever. The reason I brought that up is you saying monster hands put in my head. Cause this is the thing I talked to Eva about, Eva Anderson, about when we read this article is like, there was one of these mopes who called. Himself monster, by the way, Eva has read this. Probably sent it to me.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. Anyway, there was one of these guys who had his gimmick as a mope when he got in a porn scene is he would wear the Hulk hands, and he'd be like, monster hands. He was like, fucking.

Sam Brown

I need a gimmick. I need a gimmick.

Mike Mitchell

So me saying monster hands remind you of this very obscure thing from a porn murder. Yeah. Yeah. Story that you. The phrase monster hands made me think of that specifically.

Nick Weiger

I'm sorry for that tangent. I thought it was very interesting for what's going on. That talk show thing that I did. Yeah, I went on a porn set. I remember this was pretty wild to be there.

Mike Mitchell

It was crazy. How did it smell? You know what? Not that bad. Like, I remember, like, they were like, you're on the set of a new movie.

And I was like, the Avengers. Like, it was like what it was. And I pulled off my blindfold, and there were two people fucking in front of me, which was insane. I mean, you can see. I don't know how edited down it is in.

It's online. The pilots online. It never happened. Brand, a. Russell Brand got a great talk show instead.

Brand, ax, brand, axe. Check out. Check out brand. Well deserved, right? Well, his policies have gotten better and better, so.

But we had a good time again then. Yeah, that day we were. I was on a porn set, and it was interesting. There were, like. I'd say it was like, half and half people who were, like, really with it and, like, intelligent and great.

And then people who seemed like they were dealing with, like, it was hellish, basically is kind of the breakdown. Yeah. Maybe didn't really love the work or. I think it's a tough. I mean, it's entertainment industry, which is already exactly so bad.

And on top of it, it's porno. So the most exploitative version of it. Yeah. Anyway, the thing is, you can't get away from it being the entertainment industry. It's like any set.

Yeah, there's still similar. I mean, I was still by craft service for a lot of it.

Nick Weiger

Wait, craft service is even stickier than normal.

Okay, so you're from sandwich mash. Yeah. You were saying before we started that for a long time, there were actually not like, great sandwiches. Or was it not like a signature sandwich shop in sandwich mask? There was this place called sandwiches.

Sam Brown

Sandwiches, but, like, meh, like, not great.

After, like, white as kids came out. I remember one summer I went home and they had a big, like, 4 july festival, and they actually had like, a sandwich competition. And that was like the first time I was like, oh, they're really going after the sandwich thing. And there was this cafe that opened up after I went to college called Cafe Chu that had great sandwiches. Great name.

Mike Mitchell

Ooh, I don't know if I even know cafe chu. Cafe choo. You know, like downtown sandwich, where the grocery store is. Oh, yeah, yeah. It opened up in that plaza.

Look, I'll tell you what sandwiches got. I want me to tell you my memories of it. Sure. Please. Great mini golf.

It did. Oh, yeah. And then I think there's. I live right by that. Mini golf.

Nick Weiger

No way. Oh, wild. All right. That's where my mom lives. I hope she doesn't mind me doxing her, but if you want to go see my mom's house, it's like a mile away from there.

Wow. Mom's always. My mom's house is not far from the Addams house. I don't mean to dox her either, but moms get so mad about doxing, you know, he's gonna stay quiet and not. I'm not gonna dox my own mom, you know.

Your fucking mom. Oh, you're the good kid. Dox my mom, boy. No, I'm gonna dox my mom. Your mom's address.

Kinda close to a 24 hours fitness, but whatever. That could be anywhere in the country. All right, I don't mean to dox my dad, but the Bertucci's near the blue hill cemetery might be there. I'm not trying to dox him, but he might be near there. Wait, is Petruchis this pizza place that had the bocce ball court in it.

Mike Mitchell

Wait, maybe. That's a great. That is a great question. I mean, it was like, late eighties and early nineties that it came around. Yeah, I think I went to one when I was a kid, and that was like, the first time I was like.

Sam Brown

I saw a girl and was like, hey, I think you're cute. Oh, yeah. Hell, yeah. Yeah. And it's like.

Mike Mitchell

I mean, it's funny. It was like, where are you going? To get pizza. Yeah. Oh, what are you doing?

Sam Brown

Oh, I'm going home to my house. That's like an hour away from your house. Oh, cool. Yeah, I'm twelve. Awesome.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, that's. I think that's very. That takes a lot at twelve years old to do that. Sure. I think I was very afraid it.

Sam Brown

Was my birthday, so. Hell, yeah. My guy, you know, it's my day.

Mike Mitchell

Bocce ball. Also, was that the thing that Whitey bulger, like, isn't it, like, didn't mobsters? I think it was bocce ball. It's like lawn bowling. It's like you have the little white ball and you have to throw that out there, and then you get the other balls the closest.

Do you have a thing with bocce ball? Is there like a catching thing with it, or. No, no. I think it's like. It's Jai Li.

Sam Brown

I think you're thinking, oh, hi. Lie is the game. Jai Li is the thing that, like. They say, never bet on Jai Li. Cause it's always rigged.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. Yeah, that was. That was. I think the irish mafia got ahold of Pylai, destroyed it. Yeah.

Bocce ball is. You know what? Maybe they did have some bocce ball at pertuges. I could see that. Yeah.

It is kind of like a fun. They give you a little dough. When you came in wise, you went there. Why? Saw a failing version of it.

Nick Weiger

That's right. We reviewed Bertucci's, and, yes, I remember that. That being as part of their history, they either had the court quartz at some locations or was just like a. You guys were so ready to hate Bertucci. Well, that was also like we were.

And, well, when we were. When we were going to Bertucci's, that was like the end of the tour. Right? Foxwoods. It's foxwood.

Ok. Yes, COVID. Unbeknownst to that, we didn't know for sure. We didn't know for sure. I was like, I'm sick.

Mike Mitchell

I'm testing negative, and, like, it's fine. And then I COVID the next day. It'S impossible, because it's just like, what, are we going to cancel the show that a bunch of people paid money for? You're testing negative. It's like, I guess we'll fucking do it.

Nick Weiger

And then, of course, the next day, you actually have. COVID and me and Carl are getting on a plane. It's fine. It's fine. Whatever.

Mike Mitchell

I'm the guy at Foxwoods. There's only going to be, like, a bunch of old people there. I'm the guy. I remember. Mister president, so nice to meet you.

I gave it to Trump. Yeah, that's right. That's when he finally got it.

I don't know if I had it at that point. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't. But it had gone downhill like a lot of other. Well, D'Angelo was still doing well, but. I had a great time at Bertucci.

They didn't like, but they also were hungover from Foxwoods. A couple of the guests. Not you. Yeah, it was the last meal on the tour. It was like.

There was reasons that it was. That it did bad. I feel like. Did you grow up with Papagenos? Like, going to Papino's?

This is another one. And this one makes me mad. Because we went to Papino's, I thought it was a good experience. And him and John Hodgman shit all over it. We went to.

Nick Weiger

Here's the thing. We went to Papageno's in western mass. And it was like, this was not the typical papagino's experience. Reviewing that individual experience, I think we were fairly. I am willing to give Papagenos another crack, because that's the same ownership as D'Angelo.

Or is Beatucci the same ownership? Because D'Angelo, I loved. I had a great time with D'Angelo. I have a papagino story that. Oh, please.

Sam Brown

It just unlocked a memory in my head. So Papageno had this all you can eat night. Did you ever have, like. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nick Weiger

You were banned, right?

Sam Brown

I think it was like Tuesday nights or something. Me and all my skateboard friends. It was like a thing. We would go every Tuesday. We'd call it Ace.

And we would go there. And I remember there was one night where. And you'd pay $4, you'd get your plate and keep getting pizza. And one week, I was like, how much is the most that anyone's had? And someone was like, I think the record was, like, 14.

Someone was saying, spices, spices, they're big slices, I think it's like they cut the pizzas up into six slices. Wow. Yeah, big slices. Yeah. And I was like, next week I'm going to do 15.

And I wore a lab coat I bought from building 19. This is like the most Massachusetts thing already. Building 19 is a very Massachusetts store, which was basically just a wholesale store. Right. Yeah.

Nick Weiger

It's like. But it's like there was food too, right? Like, you know, like big lots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, imagine if big lots had its own big lots.

Sam Brown

But it was huge. It was like if all the big lots around the country had this giant big lots. Yes. Called building 19. Big lots almost times Costco.

Mike Mitchell

I mean, it was like, really. Yeah, but. But it wasn't really grocery. Grocery stores. No, no, but yeah, it was food there.

It was a very strange place. It was very strange. It was quirky. It was funny. And the name sounds like a dystopian, like, Sci-Fi thriller.

Nick Weiger

Like building 19. It's like, yeah, yeah. That sounds very distinct. Bought some really weird stuff there. If you bought, like, anything there that was like, electronic, it guaranteed would not work.

Sam Brown

If you like. I bought clothing wise, one of the things I bought before was a prison jumpsuit. Wow. Which is. It was the only prison jumpsuit that they had there.

And it was one of these things where it was like, oh, did someone, like, escape from a prison and change? And they were just like, what do we do with this? Oh, put it on the rack. Or. Maybe got into a lab coat and hung the thing up himself.

But, yeah, I bought this seventies lab coat there. And so I went to all you can eat, had the seventies lab coat and I ate 15 slices of pizza. Wow. And that gets a doughboy salute.

Mike Mitchell

I've never saluted anyone in my life. This was like the first stolen palace. This is unprecedented. This is the first doughboy salute. Okay, cool.

Nick Weiger

We've never served, but we're saluting our guests. If we met, like an hamburglar or something, we do the same thing. But this is, this is big. I thought you were about to say we met Hamburglar and we didn't even give him a. I was like, whoa.

Mike Mitchell

You met Hamburglar? Yeah, the motherfucker stole our burgers. Pissed off. Hamburglar was cool. He was really very down there.

Sam Brown

Big head out of him. I mean, he literally has a big head on him. But he does. Yeah. Here nor there.

Mike Mitchell

He opened our eyes to a lot of, like, the prison system and stuff like that. Yeah, it was really crazy. He was talking about the carceral state. I was like, oh, wow. Yeah, I knew that.

Sam Brown

They made a cape part of the costume. Like, they're like, let's throw a cape on there, right? Bring it back. Bring it back. Can you imagine Jared Vogel with a cape on?

I think he would look in prison.

Hey, guys. Going pretty good as being a convicted pedophile in prison. Got this cape. Now maybe it would be good to give to, like, the bit, like, the, you know, like, the. The big bads of, you know, like, your jareds or, you know, people like that to have the.

Mike Mitchell

The big bads get the cape. Only the most notorious, infamous villains are ones who get caped. But then that's the thing, I think, that's making them look cool. Yeah. Like, if you put, like, a.

Does the cape look cool? Yeah. I don't know. I think you definitely have a thing, too, where it'd be like, someone hung themselves with their cape again, right? Oh, he gave a cape to Epstein.

Sam Brown

Guess what he did.

Nick Weiger

Guards were weirdly away from their post. All right, sure. The garbage I wear in cakes. Wait, so you ate 15 slices of pizza? What were the after effects?

Sam Brown

Oh, horribly sick on the ride home. Yeah. To eat 15 slices of pizza, there's that thing of, like, it takes, like, a half hour for you to feel full. Sure. So you have to just, like, get it in before that half hour, you know, and then your stomach's like, you messed up.

Like, you're like, I was like, on. The car ride home. Like, I gotta sit in the front seat and like, oh, did you know? Did you barf at all or. No, I don't think I barfed.

No, I don't think I did, but, I mean, that's pretty. That's impressive, honestly. Another doughboy salute. Yeah, two. The first two.

What? And also, I guess we should say to all of our military listeners, we should give a doughboy salute as well. They're gonna tell us to stop doing it. Thank you for serving. Thank you.

Mike Mitchell

I. Luke, I've talked about this before wise, but Luke Michaels, my. One of the poofs, an old college friend, Poov. Has multiple friends named Poo. Nickname is Poov.

Nick Weiger

Is this the pooh I met Pooh stand for? Did you? Which poo did you meet? I think it is the poo. V met.

That's the pooh I met. Okay. Is that a last name? Luke Michaels. No.

Mike Mitchell

I don't know really what it. What it. What it meant. The etymology of poof is it. It's like a nickname.

Sam Brown

Poop. Sorry. I'm sorry to obsess about this whole. Thing, it's a no. I've never.

Nick Weiger

I've heard this for ten years. I've never gotten clarity on poop is. And outlimating. I'll clear it up. Late time.

Mike Mitchell

But he ate. He ate. He ate. What's the grande meal at Taco Bell? And he did okay.

I think he did. Four hard socks, soft tacos. I'm sorry. Four hard tacos. Four soft tacos, two veggie, like, bean and cheese burritos, a mexican pizza, and nachos.

Bell Grande. It was truly a feat. And he got it all down. And then on the ride home, he barfed on, like, when we were, like, back on campus, he threw up. Definitely a battle there.

Sam Brown

You're concentrating as hard as you can to not do that. I made it through. I think I did everything. Maybe I did. Except for the nachos.

Mike Mitchell

I don't know. I got close. Yeah. I don't do a lot of stunt eating, but I do remember when I was at college and I was also running a ton, and I was, like, lean, and so I just had, like, I both. Both the tail end of teenage metabolism, but also, like, just, like, really getting a lot of physical activity.

Nick Weiger

I did one time take down two four by fours and two orderers of fries from. From in n out burger. So two quad. Two quadruples. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

That metabolism was about to take off. Yeah. About to leave you for good. It is a funny thing where, when you do that, when you're like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna climb this mountain.

Sam Brown

Like, it is such a life lesson of, like, being on the other side of that and being like, why did I do that? What did I get out of this point? Yeah. Well, okay. Cause I wanna get into this, too, but I should go back to sandwich, Massachusetts.

Mike Mitchell

Evans pizza. I remember getting a lot. Pizza by Evan. Pizza by Evan. Sorry.

Nick Weiger

Pizza by Evans. Wow. Here's the thing. Massachusetts. There's a lot of.

Sam Brown

When you say Massachusetts pizza, it doesn't really mean anything, except if you're from there, which is a very. I'd say a greek style pizza if you want. If you're somewhere and you're like, I miss that Massachusetts pizza. That was just, like, a good slice of pizza. Not a great, but just good, solid.

Go to a greek restaurant and order pizza. Order cheese pizza. I like a greek pizza quite a bit. And pizza by Evan is a good greek pizza. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

There's a few spots in Quincy that you'll try them in time, but. Closed. Pizza by Evan. Is it closed? Oh, no.

Sam Brown

I think that shortly after, like, into the two thousands, it closed. Oh, that's such a bummer. It was so good. Yeah, the fish hatchery. Fish hatchery.

My mom lives right by the fish hatchery. Does she really? Oh, yeah. Is this an actual hatchery or is this a restaurant with a name, the fish hatchery? No, no, it was an actual fish hatchery.

Mike Mitchell

Wow. When I was a kid, went there on a field trip, tried to pet a fish, got bit. Wow. What kind of fish? I don't know, you know, it's a fish Hatchery.

Sam Brown

So they have these, like, tanks that are just, like, overloaded with fish. Not even tanks, they're like. It's like a little, like manmade piece, like, pool thing just filled with. And so you can just reach in. And I was like, oh, I could pet a fish.

And then it was like, oh, no, the fish would bite me if I did that. Wow. My God brother who owns the fat cat, Neil Kiley, fell into the fish hatchery. Like, jumped out, basically, but, yeah, he fell into the fish hatchery. Jesus Christ.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, yeah. Shout out to the God sister, Sarah, who was who. She had an appendix situation, but she's doing better. Oh, glad to hear that. Appendix rupture, which is very scary, but she's doing good.

Nick Weiger

But, Sarah, glad you're doing well, Sarah. God sister in the ghost. But that's the family who we had the sandwich house with, which also is like, I'm so mad at my parents. They got rid of their half of it and it's like, the nicest house. It's just a cottage, but it's just such a.

Mike Mitchell

It's right by the beach and it's great. And those houses are worth like a billion dollars now. When it was like, the property's gone up so much. I mean, if they haven't, like, washed away by now. Sure.

Sam Brown

Because that's the other thing is like. Yeah, like. Yeah, like those beaches are running for the ocean right now. Yeah, I know. Climate change wise.

Mike Mitchell

I know you don't believe in it. But, yeah, I have some doubts. Oh, I didn't know you guys were down. Oh, cool. By the way, I.

Shit. This is rogan. Awesome. We wish. We want those numbers.

Nick Weiger

Rogan. Spotify contract. I have a question that you'll probably will be dumb. You'll think this is stupid, but after the fish bit you, could you breathe underwater? Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

Holy shit. That's a weird thing about me. Not a dumb question at all. This is how it works. It's revolutionary.

Oh, my God. Fish strength, which is fish are actually not as strong as people. So you're just watching your bummer, Mitch. Let Jemmy bite you. Get that incredible sense of smell, right?

I don't want pink dick.

Nick Weiger

You're fine with gray dick. Hold on. We gotta hit some more sandwich. There was that beehive place. Beehive.

Mike Mitchell

The beehive. Beehive was like. There was a couple restaurants where when you were, like, 14, that you would get a job washing dishes at. One was the beehive and the other one was bayberries. And I got a job dishwashing at Bayberry's.

Nick Weiger

What's Bayberry's was like a diner. It's like the beehive kind of places. Like a restaurant. Standard restaurant. Just american restaurant.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. The Kylie's probably getting so mad because I'm, like, pulling references from, like, 20 years ago, but the Christmas tree shop, a baseball card store, all the shop was great. Closed down, like, as a chain. That's so sad. The Christmas tree shop on Cape Cod, the one that's, like, right over the bridge.

Yeah. This is, like, horrible podcasting. I know that. We're like, no, let's talk about the Christmas tree shop. No, people love hyper local geography discussion, and it's great.

Sam Brown

The largest. What do you call it? Thatch. Like, straw roof, I think, in America. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. It's a big, huge, straw roofed building. Why was it called a Christmas tv? A big windmill? Well, because they sold Christmas shit all year long.

Yeah. Wow. Okay. But the funny thing about Christmas shop is, like, we're talking about big lots. It's like a big lots, but like a step up.

Yeah. Like, it's. It's still, like, kind of like shit. Like cheap shit. Like crap.

But going in there. Step up from, like, your. Your, you know, like, kind of, like, fell off the back of a truck kind of shop. For sure. Yeah.

If you went in there, there's, like, all trinkets and christmasy stuff. It is. Yeah. It's cool. You would.

You would have. You would have. I'm sure I would have loved it. I want to get. I was looking for a Christmas you shop t shirt recently because that's a great logo.

That would rule. I slay with the Christmas tree on it. Nice font. Yeah. I'm very sad.

I had no idea that they shut down. Yeah, they shut, like, that chain one, I think is done. Wow. It's bullshit wigs. Yeah.

Nick Weiger

Fucking. What's everything coming through? No, no, we're pro Biden, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

We like Biden. Obama pro Biden. We like Biden, but we don't believe in climate change. Oh, but like the porn actors. But yeah, that's how I do.

Sam Brown

All my voting is off of the porn parody version of the candidate who's. Got a bigger hog. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

I don't know. I've run low on sandwich references. Oh. The first time I had buffalo wings, I think, was in Cape Cod. What is that place?

I forget the name of the place. I'll think of. I'll get the name of the place. But did you ever, you know, you were there summers? Did you jump off the.

Sam Brown

I certainly. Creek or the boardwalk? Yeah, I jumped off. Right. That little bridge.

Mike Mitchell

There was a bridge you could jump off and near, like the Nissan dealership. Not far from it, like down the road. So you did the Scorton Creek. Okay, Scorton Creek. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's. That's like the for real one. There's the boardwalk, which is like this. It's not like a boardwalk in the New Jersey sense. It's like a.

Sam Brown

It'd say like 4ft wide, like wooden slat boardwalk that runs over salt marsh to get you from a parking lot to a beach for about like a half mile. It's really nice. That's awesome. But there's a part where it goes over a little creek, and it's kind of a summer tradition to jump off of that. But that's the touristy thing to do.

The cool kid thing to do is go to Scorton Creek, which is actually on route six. Wow. Hell yeah. And then even one step above that is by there, there is a fisherman's landing kind of thing. We used to do the thing where we would take out one person's car, go out there with like a bunch of rafts.

And then the whole creek, it's tidal, so it's running out to the, you know, the bay and time it right so that, like, the tide was going out and then have someone else's car at the other end at the beach. And then you'd just like, float through the tide. Do like a rafting trip, like for like a couple hours. There was one time that. Beers and stuff like that.

Yeah, beers and stuff. If you timed it wrong, your car would end up underwater. Cause the way the tide came in. But there was one time that I did that where it was in that in my twenties, drinking a lot, and I got so drunk that by the time we got to the end. This is a disgusting story.

I'm sorry. Cause the eating 15 pizzas, slices of pizza was so flattering. But got to the end, and basically what I did was, it was the night before, I was drinking vodka, and I woke up and my friends were like, hey, we're going to scort and creek. And I was like, oh, I got this thing of orange juice. And then just poured the rest of the vodka into the orange juice container.

Yeah. I'm happy that I never have to have days like that ever again. Right, right. Yeah, no, that's very much like, I don't drink anymore. And it's just sort of like, I've done it.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, it's cool. I feel like I reached the ceiling of how cool it could be. Yeah. We were talking with our buddy Stephen eck about this, who, you know, and I don't know where he is with drinking right now, but I'd taken a break from it, and I was. At the same time, I'd taken a break from it.

Nick Weiger

And, like, how frustrated we are that you just feel better. Cause you're just like, sucks that this just works. I just. If I stop drinking, my body is, like, in my brain are telling me, yes, don't put this poison into your body anymore. But then you're kind of pissed off.

They're just like, ah, it's this fucking simple. I just don't do this one thing. Yeah. I'm also like, yeah. Like, I could.

Sam Brown

Oh, I make better decisions. Yeah, right, exactly. Yeah.

But so this. Speaking of bad decisions. So I drank the whole thing on the raft, and then afterwards, everyone was, like, going to the beach, and I was like, I'm just gonna sit in the car. And just sat in my parked car. And then was like, you know, like that, like, concentrating on not throwing up, kind of thing.

And I remember there's these, like, 214 year old girls walking by and, like, young enough that, like, they're not gonna understand the pain that I'm in. Yeah. Just when my body was like, oh, you've. You've got to throw up right now, man. Oh, no.

And so they're, like, right in front of me, and it was like. It was just that kind of thing of, like, oh, like, mom's home. Like, I can't show, like, that I'm in the state that I'm in. Right. Threw up.

This is so bad. I'm sorry. Sorry. Threw up. Caught it in my mouth and swallowed.

Nick Weiger

Aw, jeez. That's gnarly. That's a bad puke. Which only puts it up. Which only gave me the amount of time to put it off till they passed and then just threw up everywhere.

You pulled what Javier Bardem would have liked you to do on Arrakis. Don't let it out. Yeah, don't puke. So. Points for that.

Sam Brown

Hey, I do like Dune, too. Casey's right. It is the best move. Bisan al ghaiba, I guess. I salute you once again.

Nick Weiger

Yeah, I'm gonna give a third for. Not, like, scarring those 214 year old girls for a while. Cause I do have the opposite story, which is, I was at a college party, and it was just in the dorms, and I was fucking hammered. I was, like, drunk to the point where people were like, hey, man, look out for this guy. And I was, like, fucking hammered.

And then I'm walking. I'm walking out of the party. I'm finally leaving the party. There's this girl I like that we've kind of been talking, and we're like. We're walking and we're holding hands.

I was like, oh, shit, I'm drunk, but I'm enough. Oh, maybe this leads somewhere. We get to the point where it's like, I'm. I can only imagine how wet that hand was.

We get to the point where we say goodbye, and I'm like, you know, whatever. Go separate directions. I take, like, three steps so she's not outside of earshot. I, like, fart so loudly because I. My bodies cannot get to go.

I farted so loudly. She definitely heard it. And then also. Also, as I'm doing that, I look up ahead, there's two frat guys in a car, and they're looking over at me. I make eye contact with one of them and then just puke.

I just puke, like, at him. What'd you do after that? I probably went back to my dorm room and jacked off. I don't know. You didn't have to go that far.

Sam Brown

I meant.

Mike Mitchell

The frat guys. If, like, they drive by your dorm room and see you jack them off. Make eye contact again. No, I remember I made eye contact with the guy, and he made a horrified look when he saw me puke. And I couldn't even.

Nick Weiger

I was just a projectile puking, like, onto a bush. I had no control over my body at that point. You were asking, hindsight's 2020, but you should have just been like, yep, exactly. Locked away with confidence. Right, right.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, that was. Asked what he did after that, I think the answer was, you dropped out of college.

Sam Brown

There was a time where I was out in New York City for a couple months on doing this thing on the road, and then got back to New York City, and it was like, 25 or something at this point, and went to this crazy party that had a keg in Brooklyn, which is not really. It's a normal thing if you're outside of an urban area. And I remember I did a keg stand that was like, so long that the party all started chanting for me. I love that. They put me down.

I immediately threw up, and then immediately a girl came up to me and was like, hey, that was you that did that keg stand. It worked. Wow. It worked. And we made out.

Mike Mitchell

Wow. Wow. But, like, her hindsight didn't chew gum after. Like, I was like, oh, I was not a gentleman about this. You had the opposite weiger effect.

Yeah, right. Cause I. Cuz I was like, yeah, that was me. Yeah, you owned it. Yeah.

Nick Weiger

Me life lesson. Never puked from drinking. Is that true? No, I barfed. I did this thing.

When's the last time you puked from drinking? Ooh. I mean, probably hangovers more, so. Well, yeah, like, actually puking from drinking. When I was in Montreal for ten plus years at just for laughs, I told you this, that I was.

Mike Mitchell

Was. I had drank so much whiskey, and it was morning, and when we were leaving, it was like the sun was up and I was with. Later with Harris, but I woke up and I remember puking and shoving the puke down the drain with my hand, and then. Wait, what? I was, like, puked into the sink and the.

You didn't puke into the toilet. In the sink. Got you. And I was, like, pushing the puke. It was probably also, like, noon time, and I felt like it was like, 07:00 a.m.

And then Harris did hook me. He brought me water the next day. He, like, say I was. I, like, definitely had alcohol poisoning. But besides that, it was when I did the brain drain challenge in college.

Nick Weiger

Yeah, sure. I funneled, and I didn't call it that, but I funneled six beers at once, and I got it down. I got it down, and then I puked it up, and it was cold coming back up. I think you have told me this before. Yeah, it was pretty gnarly.

Sam Brown

I used to throw up all the time. Like, I hate mix something, like, wrong. Like, sometimes if I was, like, too drunk and I smoked weed, I would just, like, be like, nope. Oh, yeah, that will get you. That hit me wrong.

I got the spins. This is going in a direction that's. I never liked to mix. I think that's why I stopped even doing it, because if you get spins, it's all over. Yeah, but did you ever do dabs?

Nick Weiger

No, I never did dabs. What's that? What are dabs? Emma. You mess with that.

Emma's, like, immediately nodding. I have violently barfed from dabs. Yeah, yeah, it will kill you. It's, like, almost like weed oding. It's like, as you wrong as you.

Can get is like a dab. Wait, what is it? Is it thing you put in your mouth or. No, it's a distillate they put on a nail, and you put it in a hot thing, and it, like, vaporizes it. Looks very good.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, yeah. It's like potheads were sitting around dispensing. We're like, why isn't this more like crack? It should be more like crack. I don't know if I had done that either, but, like, it can.

Sam Brown

Like, it can hit you wrong. Yeah, yeah. And then you've got to throw up. You've. It's just like, gotta have.

Nick Weiger

Dads have made me barf when I wasn't drinking beforehand. Wow, that's a true nightmare. Yeah, I don't do them anymore. I was at a cottage in Eastham, like, Cape, and I wasn't drinking. It was, like, actually a night where I was like, oh, I'm gonna, like, you know, like, call my girlfriend at the time and make sure she gets to bed.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. And then I'm gonna start partying, and I'm gonna make sure I'm sober and, like, good boy. And then I was like, oh, I gotta catch up. Better do a dab. Hit me wrong.

Sam Brown

And I went out to the fire, and I, like, was just, like, tunnel vision. And then my brother sat down next to me and started talking to people about bad oysters. Oh, no. And hard boiled eggs. Jesus.

And I went, if I have to throw up, where should I throw up? And he was like, oh, like, back in the bushes over there. And I was like, no, I mean, right now. And I just threw up in the fire. Everyone was like, actually, that worked.

Mike Mitchell

I haven't done dabs, but I have done dips in the cranberry bog in sandwich, Massachusetts. Whoa. You are a pro. Thank you. Wow.

Also, you said, up the cape, which we say down the cape, which I. Mean, yeah, like, whatever. The same difference. Down Cape. Up Cape.

Yeah. I was just thinking it's north, but, like, yeah, down cape. Sure, yeah, yeah. I loved sandwich. Was a great place.

Wags, I saw arachnophobia at the mall there. They had a great arcade, and we got orange Julius afterwards to turn it to chains. A lot of fun. So funny. Like, he's saying, like, arachnophobia because I'm, like, picturing, like, all right, this is when we were in the same town together.

Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Probably at that arcade together. The same.

Yeah. Ryan family amused me. That's the one. And orange Julius was huge. I still love orange Julius to this day.

We did recently. It got a little worse, is what. You'Re trying to say. Yeah. Saw arachnophobia at the regency eight in Lakewood, California.

Sam Brown

Yeah, I rented it. I saw it on home video. I was too scared of spiders. That's that for you guys. It's just not as good.

Nick Weiger

There was a cool McDonald's right by there. That sounds okay. There's a new spider movie coming out, and I'm like, oh, they decided to go back to the arachnophobia thing. I like that. Go back.

Mike Mitchell

We need more, I think, more spider movies. Yeah, they tried. I thought eight legged freaks was gonna be a thing, but eight legged freaks didn't really go anywhere. Spiders got too big. I think the new one, the spider's getting big again, too.

Actually, you know what? That's a big problem I have with. I love that. I do like the Hobbit movies. Why?

Nick Weiger

Lord of the Rings. They have one big spider she lab we're talking about. Yeah, exactly. The one big spider, she's a land. And then by the time you go into Hobbit and now there's just big spiders all over the place and elves are just murking them, I'm just like.

They heightened this too much, these stakes of the one spider. It's the same problem with Force Awakens versus a new hope is like destroying five planets with the Starkiller base versus destroying the one planet that you care about, Alderaan. In Star Wars, Starkiller base is sick. But I'm saying the stakes got too big, and so it becomes abstract. And this is a big problem, I think, that sequels and prequels have.

Sam Brown

Speaking of our show releasing on shout and everything is one of the funny things about Force Awakens is that when we did our show in 2008, we did a George Lucas sketch of basically it's a child just sending an email to George lucasol.com and it working. And he's saying, the kid says, I have an idea for a Star wars movie. And he writes back, meet me in LA in half hour. That kind of thing. And then the pitch that the kid has is to do Star wars seven, and it blows George Lucas's mind.

And then the other pitch is that there's another Death Star, and he's like, oh, my God, this is so. We were kind of right. You were 100%. Yes. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

But they already blew two up.

Sam Brown

It was one of those things where you see it and. Yeah, I couldn't really be into Force Awakens. I was like, oh, we kind of wrote this one already. Right? Right, yeah, exactly.

Mike Mitchell

And then, don't worry, by the end of it, they put the Death Star on every ship or some bullshit in Rise of Skywalker. Anyways. We don't talk about them. Up with something else. We're not here to talk about the.

Sam Brown

Star wars, but spiders. Yeah. I would say, you know, like, you can make, like, a spider the size of a building, and it's like, okay, but, like, if you made a spider the size of a dog, that's fucking scary. It is scary. That's.

Mike Mitchell

Don't worry about it, Jimmy. Like those videos of the australian people capturing spiders at their house. It's, like, scary. Yeah, yeah. We should fucking.

I know this seems extreme, but we should just nuke Australia.

Nick Weiger

We'll be right back. Australia's having a little bit of it. This is kind of. They're having a renaissance right now. Really?

Really. I mean, they got some good tv. Really? Yeah. I mean, you see that mister in between?

Mike Mitchell

No, I haven't seen it. Great. Australia. And we were talking bluey yesterday. Louie.

Sam Brown

Yeah. Is that New Zealand? It's New Zealand or Australia. Right? Yeah.

Blue. If you're an adult and you haven't seen Bluey, you're fucking dumb. I've seen it. I've seen it, too. Also, you know that, like, cooler spot you talked about that, like, the locals and sandwich go to?

Mike Mitchell

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Nick Weiger

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Sam Brown

What's the other? Calling from accounts. Great show. Oh, wow. Okay.

Frayed. That's on HBO, Max. You should check that out. That's great. All right.

Mike Mitchell

You know what? They won't. We won't wipe. They're not gonna get nuked then. Yeah.

We'll keep Australia around for a little bit. Yeah. And, you know, we got some listeners down under, too. Through. And.

Nick Weiger

Hello. Down under, we got. Hungry jacks is the big change. Yeah, the other thing. Casey knows what I'm talking about.

Sam Brown

Australian survivor. Yeah. Oh, yeah. A lot of survivors. Better than american survivor.

Australian survivor is amazing. Well, hungry jacks down there. And they have hungry jacks as a sponsor constantly. Wow. Wow.

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So Route 66 begins construction in 1926. It was finished paving in 1938, and it was built as a road connecting Chicago and Los Angeles. Big historical, you know, cross country road route. In 1942, Queens Burgers opened on Route 66 on was now Santa Monica Boulevard in west Hollywood. And its original sign, Mitch, was no lobster, just burgers.

Mike Mitchell

What the hell? I think probably what it was is people approaching the beach were like, oh, I'm gonna get some lobster here. But it's like, we don't have lobster, we just have beaches, or we just have burgers. And then also of course, you know, it's a different seafood than what people from the east coast might expect. It is one of the first roadside burger stands in the Southland.

Nick Weiger

And in 1970, it got the name Irvs because Irv Gendis bought it and renamed it after himself. Then in 2000, another big imprint on his identity was its current ownership, Sonia Hong, who purchased it, and she works at the Santa Monica Boulevard location. She will write little drellel doodles and write little personalized notes on your paper plate when she hands you your burgers. She's become, like, a big local celebrity there. And so, as such, the community rallied.

When it almost closed permanently in 2018, it got some new financing via Lawrence Longo of Prince Street Pizza. New business plan started expanding a little bit. And also we, Melrose chef Armin Paschulian came in, and we, Melrose, which is like, a cool restaurant, cool sandwich shop, came in and revamped the menu a little bit. So it's. That's funny.

Mike Mitchell

I didn't know that there was, like, the fancy. Cause, I mean, like, it was a burger stand very much. So. It had a lot of. I mean, honestly, this is maybe.

I know that they're, like, franchising it in a way, but, like, it's maybe the good thing of, like, hey, these rich restaurateurs are, like, helping this place out a little bit. This is the thing. It strikes me to. It strikes to be a little bit less like, hey, this is the opportunistic. We're gonna take this brand and try to expand it and, you know, kind of do a mafia bust out on this beloved local icon and instead kind of like, hey, we are.

Nick Weiger

We are from the city. We're within the city. We recognize this as a part of our food culture. We want to do what we can using our leverage and our means to preserve it. So it seems like they're.

And I also think, Mitch, to your point about franchising, they've not expanded wildly. They've have a couple new locations. Yeah. So I have this question. I saw this stuff online and it prominently on it, like, on Irv's.

Sam Brown

They say Irv's since 19. What is it? I think it's 1942. Yeah, 46 is the date. I'm sorry, I might have a date wrong.

But they were called Queens Burgers. Yes. And then they got bought and changed to Irv's in 19. Shouldn't it be since 1970? Isn't it a different restaurant at that point?

Nick Weiger

Yeah, I don't know. Once you change the name, I think they can. I think the menu remained the same, but I think. But since then, we've changed ownership and we've changed the menu grade. Right.

Sam Brown

And then, like, you know, like. And I'm not the year police here, but it just seems like it should be since 1970, right? Like, yeah, either way, even if it's since 1970, that's 50 years ago at this point. So, like, it's been a part of the city for a long time. And also, like, that, that's another thing, to your point, that neighborhood and LA has changed so much since, you know, the days of the post war era, the early post war era, when it was like, you know, West Hollywood is now its own city.

Nick Weiger

It has its own history. It went through cycles of being, like, this historically gay neighborhood and then becoming fully gentrified. It has a completely different cultural identity than it did once then, but this place has remained fixed. And I think its menu kind of locked in time. And I think that's partly why people think of it as so historic.

But, yeah, I think its current identity is so much informed by, yes, change of ownership in 1970 and then also 2000, because Sonia Hong, I think, is so linked to what people think of with irvs. See, I didn't know that Sonia Hong was like, who bought it again? You said 2018, I think 2000. And then there's. Yeah, there's new partners that came in, in 2018 around that.

Sam Brown

That was the thing was I saw it. So much of its story is how much it changed ownership. But I didn't know that Son Ye Hong worked there and was, like, a part of it before she bought it. I think that's really cool. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

By the way, year police sounds like the direct to DVD ripoff of time cop.

Sam Brown

Yeah. Oh, thanks, grandma. I totally asked for your police for Christmas, and you bought me the vhs. It's next to Carnosaur and transmorphers. Yeah.

Nick Weiger

So we went to one of the new ish locations, which used to be another LA chain we also reviewed on the show. Mitch. Top round. Top round. That top round has closed, and like a hermit crab inhabiting a shell, it is.

Mike Mitchell

Top round is closed altogether. I think there's another location. I could be wrong, but I think. I live near top. That location is a little doomed.

I'll give you a little history on that location. Yeah. Where I used to pick up donuts for the Simpsons when I worked at the Simpsons. When they have Friday donuts, one humble brag. Used to eat a lot of donuts.

It was not fun. It was not fun or cool. I had to get, like, 30 donuts. And then. Yeah, and that's just Homer's order.

And I get there. I love a lot of the writers and Simpsons. Selman, we're having come back, but you get there with the donuts and people like, these donuts are bad. Like, you hear they're like, God damn it. This sucks.

But it was. It was a local. We're the fucking Simpsons. We can't get good donuts around. It was Homer.

I don't mean out of it. It was Homer. He's a hamburglar's. Cool. Homer's kind of a monster.

Homer's kind of a monster. I mean, look. He's so funny. He's so funny. There's that documentary coming out.

Nick Weiger

Yeah, yeah. God, that's. I will watch it, but I'm not. Looking forward to watching Mari Chevy Chase. Like, you know, like, kind of assholes, but, like, so funny.

Mike Mitchell

Kind of the same, almost kind of. The same sort of thing, you know? It's cool, though, is just like, the chillest dude. Who's that? Beavis.

Nick Weiger

Beavis is so cool. You're gonna say Peter Griffith. Peter Griffin is also, like, for, like, family. Guy's pretty, like, crazy, but Peter is pretty late. Peter's like.

It's like, you kind of, like, look at the cast and like, oh, Peter's gonna be like a prima donna. But actually Peter's like, cool. The problem is Brian. Shockingly. Yeah, Brian's friends are really smart.

Sam Brown

Well, he's really right wing. He's really super right wing. We were at Sketch fest and we were doing, like, you know, we're gonna do doughboys. And then, like, after us in the same venue was Brian Griffin was up and he was gonna do his one man show, and we were like, hey, man, I'm sorry. This is like, we do this food podcast.

Nick Weiger

If you ever want a guest on it, we'd love to have you. He rolled his eye and said, yeah, not my thing. Yeah, exactly. I once on the street and I asked him to take a picture. He asked me for $50, dear.

Mike Mitchell

What the fuck? $50 for a picture. Another insane. What a fucking asshole. Yeah, I mean, look, also, he's funny in the show.

Nick Weiger

He's funny in the show. Fucking hilarious. So funny. He. Oh, he's a funny guy.

Mike Mitchell

He's a. He's a super funny guy. Yeah, yeah. And if you talk to Stewie about him, Stewie's like, yeah, Brian, you know. Friends, like, on the show.

Like, yeah, I know, but it's weird when you see it not in real life. Yeah, yeah. You'd think, you know. Yeah. Like, don't meet your heroes wives.

Nick Weiger

And I, like. On the show, we play best friend. On the doughboy show, we play best friends. And then real life, we are best friends. We're hanging out.

We're hanging out all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Peter's cool. He's like. He's just like, hey, how you doing?

Mike Mitchell

You want a dab?

He's chill. So, anyway, yeah, sorry. Sorry for that, but I. It was. It was homer, so, I mean, that.

That. It used to be a donut shop. The donuts were great there, too. They had great apple fritters. I believe it was.

I believe it was a korean family that owned it. And it was. It was. It was great. It was a great.

It was a great, great donuts. Great, great donuts. I think so that this particular location, which you don't need to spend too much time on, but it is also, like, in and of itself, it feels like it's out of another time. This feels like something that was a roadside stand that was built in the 1950s. It's got, like, a rare, like, kind of too big for its space surface parking lot, which is great, because there's a lot of.

Nick Weiger

Not a lot of these kind of places that have no parking in LA. And then mostly outdoor seating, but they've kind of revamped it, and they're leaning into kind of like, the, you know, hand drawn, handwritten sort of character that comes from Sonia Hong's little doodles on plates with a signage, which is fun. There's a picture there that looks like an old school picture of guys at the stand. I was like, what is this from? So that's the Clash?

Yeah, the Clash. Was it really one? Yeah, that was the Clash. All four of them. Was they at.

Mike Mitchell

Were they at the. They were at the original. Irv's. Original queen, I guess it would be Irv's. That's what it was.

Sam Brown

After seven, I didn't even realize that. It was a clash. I feel fool. No, there's, like, a Linda Ronstadt album cover that has Irv's burgers on it. I didn't know it was the Clash.

That was Joe Strummer. You don't recognize Joe Strummer? I mean, simonen, I recognize. That's his name, right? The bassist.

Mike Mitchell

I recognize Brian Griffin. And, you know, all the family guy guys, I recognize. We all recognize. There's the most recognizable characters in the world.

Sam Brown

A newborn child in China. A picture of Brian Griffin. He knows who Brian Griffin is. All right. That's fair.

In the Clash, he goes, Stewie's best friend.

Mike Mitchell

I know the Clash.

Sam Brown

You know train in vain. That's it. And it's funny to say their most popular song that Clash fans probably, like, don't like you people mentioning. But that's a good one. That's a good.

He didn't say, should I stay or should I go? Or rock the caspod. Those are the basic ones, but they're all good. They're all good luck in the supermarket. Food related.

Mike Mitchell

I know some of the clash. I know a little bit of the clash. London calling. Deep cut. Yeah, yeah, come on.

I recognized them. So, all right, you went to the cool place and sandwiched.

Nick Weiger

So there is a lot of history for this place. Yeah, it is. Like, some celebrities and bands and stuff have gone to this place, at least the original location. We went to the La Brea location, which is semi new, as I mentioned. Which after we went there, they were like, oh, so some celebrities have been here.

Mike Mitchell

I was looking around. What are they talking about? Oh, French Stewart is in line behind. Yeah. One burger, please.

Is that pretty good? Furry coat from third rock.

Nick Weiger

I'm just gonna say I love herbs. I think herbs is so fucking good, and I like it. I had a great meal this time, but just. I think I may have said this at the restaurant when I asked my wife Natalie, like, hey, we're going to this place. Do you want anything, or do you want to come or whatever?

Most of the time she says no. And sometimes she says, fuck, no. But when I mentioned irvs, and a. Lot of times, fuck you. Yeah.

At least the subtext. But I said we were going to Irv's, and the time that we were all able to go was during her workday, so she couldn't make it. I was like, oh, we're going to Irv's. And she was like, I'm so jealous. Like, she, like, loves this place, and I just think it does what it's doing so, so capably.

And also with the menu additions that have come in with some of the. The new management, they still haven't made it into, like, this big, sprawling menu. They just add a few things, like. Like, the tuna melt is new, I think. I think the shakes are new.

But. But it's mostly just sort of, like, working around the margins. They still are focused on burgers. Good. But the burger is, like, the star of the show.

Mike Mitchell

Burgers, what you want. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And one thing I liked about their burgers is it's that, you know, like, that kind of, like, fast foodie, like, thin patty kind of thing. Yeah, but they, they gave it that.

Sam Brown

That, like, char to it. Right. And it's not a smash burger, though, right? No, no, no. But which I like that it's there is there.

Mike Mitchell

It's. There's thin patties, but there's. They got. They still got a good meat ratio. The ratio is pretty decent.

Sam Brown

But, like, usually, like. Yeah, like, you'll see places, like, kind of undercook those patties, but they made sure that there was. There was, like, a little crispiness to it, which was really good. Yeah, yeah, I. I had gone wags once before when I was going to my dermatologist.

Mike Mitchell

Coming back from my dermatologist, I was. Getting, like, dermalogists around here. Dermatologist, like, getting my warts. Warts removed. And I was coming back my humble brag, and I stopped in at Irv's at that very location, and I.

Cause I had. I had heard of it before. I think there's one on Santa Monica Boulevard. The Santa Monica Boulevard one is the original. Well, it's.

Nick Weiger

Oh, the original was on Santa Monica Boulevard. It's moved like two doors down. And I had just heard of it forever. So I just tried it on a whim before we did it for the podcast. And I did, I had the regular, the main burger, the roadside burger, which I liked a lot.

Mike Mitchell

And then yesterday, I got a patty melt and I ordered patty melt and a pastrami sandwich for us to kind of take bites of. I loved the patty melt. I don't know how you guys felt. I thought the patty melt was fucking great. Yeah.

And you know why? It's so. I mean, like, I couldn't maybe use. Do patty mouths have mustard in it. A lot or sometimes they do.

There was not a lot of mustard flavor to it, but I was. I want to say, like, the. Just the meat, it was so meat forward and just tasted so good. And the rye toast was buttered and toasted perfectly. Yeah, it was.

It was. It was a damn. It was a really damn good patty melt. I thought top round was pretty good when we went there before, too, so. Yeah, I like top round.

I think this spot is maybe a cursed spot in a way, but, um. Yeah, I don't know. This location seemed pretty busy at the time, but I don't know. They also had a phantom, though, so I think that was the thing, is that they had a phantom of the restaurant. Of the restaurant.

A guy who'd been burned by Grease. Yeah.

Sam Brown

I was like, why? If you have a phantom. Why do you have a chandelier in here? Like, sure enough, it fell on French Stewart. And that's why we've been seeing all this news about French Stewart in the hospital.

Mike Mitchell

We hope that he pulls through. French Stuart. He was on the birthday boys at one point. He was very nice man. I've heard he's a lovely guy.

Very nice man. Very funny. Very funny. But now crushed by a chandelier. Hopefully he recovers.

Nick Weiger

So top round a refresher or for anyone who didn't listen to that episode, it was kind of like an upscale attempt at an Arby's, right? It was like a very good, fast casual, gentrified Arby's. Irv's is a little bit more for the working class. I think it's fair, is not that it's like the cheapest thing, but it's like stuff that's been eaten for generations by people from all classes in LA. I got the roadside double burger.

I think this is a place because of the thinness of the patty, where the double burger is. And this is another Natalie thing, like the double burger you should think of as the default burger here. And just to get through the components, it's a toasted bun, american cheese, herb sauce, lettuce, tomato, onion and pickle. Man, it was really hitting yesterday. It was so fucking.

Mike Mitchell

It was fantastic. I thought my patty mutt was great. You got a very interesting burger that we. That, that I didn't even know was on the menu. I mean, I don't know if anyone who was on the menu.

Key term here. I was being a little bit of a try hard guest. I was like, uh, I'm gonna be doughboys. We gotta go. Go out.

Let us tell you. We like it. We like when you do your homework. We like that when people don't do their homework. Kwolek, show up not knowing shit.

We're pissed off right wise. Yeah, no, it's great. It's great. So I saw there was a secret menu clicked, realized it was a link. And what the link brings me to is a picture of the plate with the writing on it that I now realize is the signature doodles.

Yeah. And one of the burgers said just. I forget what the wording of it was, but it was like, just a really good burger. I think I have it written down. Just a well made cheeseburger.

Sam Brown

Just a well made cheeseburger. And it was in quotes, and it was on the secret menu. And when we went in, I was like, crinkle cut fries was also on the secret menu. And I went to the girl and I was like, hey, can I have that? Like, just a really, really good burger?

And she goes, oh, the movie burger. I was like, I was watching this. And she was like, it's the burger from the movie. And I was like, it's on the secret menu. And she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then she's like, ordering. I was like, what movie is it from? And it's the burger from the menu. Which confused things, I think, even more. It was a bit of a who's on first?

Nick Weiger

The movie is amazing. It's from the menu. And it's like, what? It was very. I was like, no, it's not on the menu, idiot.

Sam Brown

It's on the secret menu. You started. That was rude. Put the phantom in a headlock. I remember.

Nick Weiger

Yeah. I was like, do you know who I am?

Sam Brown

French Stewart's friends. No, we're not friends with friends. Well, kind of. So I've seen the menu, but I did not know this until this interaction in your description of the aftermath. So this is the thing that the Anya Taylor Joy character spoiler at the end of the movie is like, I just want a well made cheeseburger.

Well, Miss Spoilers. Yeah. And that's like, somehow she defeats the chef that way. Yeah. Oh, my only weakness.

Guess I can't kill you.

Nick Weiger

Yes. She's granted freedom. Spoilers for this. For the menu. Comedy bang bang.

Mike Mitchell

Writer wrote that movie. That's right. Yeah. Anyways, that burger also very good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it was great.

Yeah, great. Great burger, I think. Yeah, it was. I don't think it had, like, lettuce and tomatoes or anything on it, but it was like, grilled onions and the secret sauce and just like that. Like, really featured.

Sam Brown

It was a double patty. Really featured the meat and the sesame bun. Yes, it was just great. Love a sesame bun. Good sesame bun.

Mike Mitchell

You know what? Put me over the top. So I thought the pastrami sandwich is okay. It wasn't, like, great or stand out. I think the pastrami sandwich is something they've had on the menu for a long time.

Oh, okay. I don't think that's one of the newer dishes. I mean, it's a decent sandwich, but I wasn't like, this is my favorite. Bite of the day, so I live right next to the hat. Not to docs myself, but there's multiple locations.

Sam Brown

Which location? Who knows?

Mike Mitchell

La location, right? I don't know. Maybe the Irvine one. This drive out here was long coming from Irvine, but when I saw the menu, I was like, is this gonna be, like, not as good as the hat? In which.

Nick Weiger

Sorry, just. Cause you said the menu before, we were talking about the movie the menu. It's happening again. The movie the menu. When you saw the menu for the fervs.

Sam Brown

I don't even know anymore.

Mike Mitchell

I wish that blasted comedy bang bang never existed wise. I'm just happy, like, have a house. Good job.

Sam Brown

Ooh. This movie writes itself.

Alternate reality. Like, let's let it be is very fun. Fairy godfather all along. So we've been to the hat, and we do the hat is good. We like the hat is good.

Mike Mitchell

And also a good pastrami sandwich there. But the pastrami sandwich is like. Yeah, insane. That's the thing, though. But, like, the hat is like a pastrami place that has the other stuff.

Nick Weiger

This place is a burger place that has pastrami. Yeah. You know, I think they both do what their thing is fully better at. Yeah, spot. Totally.

Mike Mitchell

Exactly. Yeah. So I was very pleased to see that it was a burger spot. And their burgers were great. The burgers were great.

You know what kind of put me over the top there? What? That dog. Did you have a bite of the dog? Good.

Nick Weiger

Very, very good. The dog was fucking, and the dog was just a really well made, just a nice taste in Frank. And the buttered bun. It was great. Super simple, the Irv's dog.

And you also get it with chili cheese, but it's just an all beef hebrew national hot dog butter, toasted herbs hot dog bun is the menu description. I just put some mustard on that. I took a couple of bites. We had some communal bites. I thought it was a really, really quality hot dog.

And also of the size of. Just like, I'd get that as a side dog with my burger. Sure. Yeah. You know you're gonna get a side dog.

Mike Mitchell

Speaking of side dogs. Side dog, right. She sighed when you said hot dog, but overall, I was impressed with, look, they have Pepsi products. Not the best. Yeah.

Nick Weiger

And I'm like, I think they always have had Pepsi products. I don't think that's a new thing. I could be wrong. I thought both your shakes were tasty. Yours was actually maybe my favorite, but it was also so natural.

Strawberry. But I almost wanted it to be, like, fake. Fake tasting, artificial strawberry. It was really. You got the strawberry shake, Mitch.

You got the orange creamsicle float, and I got a birthday shake. Creamsicle float had a nice touch, which is they gave you the orange. Crush the glass, like the bottle crushed the leftover. It's sort of the shake leftover, kind of. Yeah, I love that.

Sam Brown

Yeah. Yeah, that was a nice touch. And I needed it, too. I thought it was good. The ice cream was good.

Mike Mitchell

It was just kind of simple and whatever. Yeah. So I love birthday flavor. I think I liked the birthday shake more than anyone. Like, for me, I was like, this is great.

Nick Weiger

I love it. I will say that it probably could have had half as many. Cause you were sucking a lot of sprinkles down with each sip. Very textured. Very textured.

The other thing I will say, and this is, Sam, this was your observation, and you're absolutely right, they give you a boba straw with your shake. The boba straw with a thick milkshake is a fucking master stroke. It was so. It's such a great way to consume this. I hate it when you have, like, a shake, like an Oreo shake with, like, a skinny straw, and it's like, like, immediately there's a clog.

Sam Brown

Those papers Obama, no one thought they gave us. Yeah, Biden would never. Biden would never give us paper straws like that. Cause his dick is huge.

Check out the cock on that guy. I wonder how much it would sway the presidential election if, like, part of the process, like the debates and, like, you know, filing your campaign, you had to show hogs. Everyone had to show their hogs. That's so funny. But the people who listen to the debate on radio.

Nick Weiger

Yeah. People who saw Nixon's hogs were like. Okay, man, that would be four more years if Botta just had, like, a monster hog compared to Trump. It would just. Would be fun.

Sam Brown

I would sway, definitely. Who's that? Was that movie star who, like, wasn't there, like, a director who was giving a movie star a hard time? And then he saw he had, like, a big hog, and he was like, I respect him now. Yeah, I think I heard this story on action boys, but this was a Gabriel Stanger Rogers great podcast, actionboys biz.

Nick Weiger

I think what it was was, who's the direct? Peter Burr. Peter Berg and Justin Theroux. And Peter Berg was one of the EPs of the leftovers, like, directed the pilot, I think, maybe. And Justin Theroux was on it, and he was always, like, bullying Justin Theroux.

Kind of treating him like, whatever. Like, who the fuck are you, pretty boy? And then Justin throw had a nude scene, and he's got, like, a big hog. And then after that, he, like, respected him from that point forward.

Sam Brown

That is so funny. That's a show that I'm like, this is like one of, of the best shows ever. Oh, yeah. I've never seen it, but I know what people are. Leftovers.

It's weird. There's, the first season is like, we love leftovers. We do love leftovers. Yeah, it's a pro.

It's weird. Cause it's like, the first season's like, all right, this is, I don't know if I like where this is going, but the second and third season are like, so good. They're so amazing and unlike any other tv show. Well, it's funny to, like, hear that. Like, it might have been because the director was like, fuck this guy.

And then like, oh, he's got a big dick. Like those seasons two and three really had that bde, you know? Well, it's weird. I was in the, I was in the leftovers pilot and I had a show hog, and then Berg pushed me down to Pa after I showed my hog. He was like, you're a Pa now.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. It's weird to know that director Peter Berg wouldn't respect you.

Nick Weiger

Okay, we gotta talk. First off, I do wanna touch on Sus. Got the turkey burger, but the turkey burger has like, he was pissed he didn't like it. He was like, it was okay. And I was like, why did you get it?

Mike Mitchell

You know that you didn't, you knew you were gonna be unhappy. You came all the way for this free meal anyways, so why are you gonna get the per. It had hatch chilies. That looks good. I was thinking.

It does look good. It has cheddar and hatch green chilies as well as the herb sauce, lettuce and tomatoes. It's like, there's some thought was put into making this distinct from the other, the other burgers. I talked to him afterwards and he was like, nah. And I was like, you got the, you shouldn't.

And then he was, he was trying bites of other, I mean, he was very happily trying bites of other burgers. He was going to town, but, but. He was like, I didn't sense this much animosity yesterday at the meal. But now, like, as you find out, you're seething the whole time. What's the fucking guy doing here?

Yeah, I mean, he always, he just always goes to town on. He does. Yeah. But the thing that I got upset about is after the fact is he was like, eh. He was like kind of being like, it's like, whatever.

And to me, I think like the theming of herbs when you think of like a big chain restaurant, but it's time. It's smaller, which gets also listeners mad. We're sorry, listeners, but just think of it as a local burger spot, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, it's a to do thing when you come to LA.

Yeah, you should try. Yeah, it's good. When you come to LA. You should try it. But he was like, so so.

And I think, look, I'm gonna tip my hand here a little bit. I think that this is in four forks or above for me, but we'll talk about that in a second. We'll get to that in a second. We should talk about the fries situation. So we got chili cheese fries, regular fries, and crinkle cut fries.

Also, we should quickly mention that we were gonna sit outside and then the tables. We. Maybe there was gonna be a scenario where maybe I sat on one end of the table, you sat on the other, and I shot you into space. Yeah. So it was that kind of thing where you realize, like, even if the tables were stable enough, that, like, our knees would be touching.

The outdoor tables are like, from the. It seems like maybe from the fifties or something. Asses were just smaller. Right. Cause it's like a little.

Nick Weiger

It's like a coaster's worth of, like, ass support that you're supposed to put your cheeks on. It was like. It's like if you. If you go to, like, an elementary school, you're like, oh, this is not made for adults. You know, like, none of these stuff.

Sam Brown

Yeah, yeah. My grandpa. Yeah. Like, my grandpa. Not that I go to elementary schools.

Nick Weiger

Yeah. Why would anyone do that? Now you're talking next language. My grandpa, like, my grandpa probably had a small ass, comparatively. Yeah.

My grandma. Both my grandpas probably had small asses versus me, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. You know, my grandpa had a huge ass.

Sam Brown

I don't know what you guys are talking about. His ass was great. Pop pop.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. Papa and grandpa, fucking tiny asses. I think I remember in their coffin that, like, they like it just kind of like, slim. It was like a slim line. Coffin.

Sam Brown

Yeah, yeah, that's the. That's how you get that Dracula shape. That, like, classic, you know, coffin shape. Now they're rectangular. Right.

But back in the day, they used to be that, like, diagram. Dracula had no ass. Yeah, zero ass. So the fries were. We were sitting inside, the fries were brought out.

Nick Weiger

The workers there were lovely. And she brought them out and she was like, so the fries are actually a little bit well done. If you like, we can remake them. She leads with that offer. The fries are pretty crispy.

I don't mind it. To me, the well done fries are not a problem at all. But they were. Maybe this place maybe doesn't do the best version of well done fries. It was nice that she offered.

Mike Mitchell

I didn't. We didn't care. It was. It was a kitchen error that she offered to rectify. For instance, this is not how their fries normally come.

Nick Weiger

And we. And we just. We didn't have them remake them. We. The fact, after eating them, I think they probably were too well done.

Yeah, sure. Yeah, definitely. I looked her dead in the eyes and I said, no, you already ruined my meal.

Sam Brown

And I was seeing phantom cried. No. Yeah, yeah, it's a bummer. It was. I mean, she does.

Mike Mitchell

She does. She deserved it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was working for me. That's why when you go into a restaurant, they are working for you.

That is true. You are their boss. Right. And you can treat them however you want. This is a lot of what you said yesterday, but you're 100% right.

Sam Brown

So much spit spitting on the ground everywhere. It was. She was very kind to offer that, and they did a great job. And the food came out pretty quick. Here's what I noticed with the fries.

The crinkle cut fries went. I think those were just like. I don't know if it was like, the crinkle cut was, like, better for having overdone fries. This is, like, the way the surface area is of it. But, like, I.

Mike Mitchell

I agree with you. I think the crinkle cut fries were great. I liked the crinkle cut more than I liked the regular fries. I agree. I do like the chili cheese fries there.

Nick Weiger

I think that, you know, I think just. It's weird, because you'd think that having so many wet ingredients on top of something well done, it was like, oh, it'll kind of counterbalance it, but it actually was just kind of cumbersome to eat. And I think the other. The other element you end up there is like, if you get too much food, you don't really want the chili cheese fries. Right.

You just want some regular fries. You don't necessarily need a big. Another big pile of meat. Sure. Yeah.

But they're. But they're well done. They have good Chili and they have good. Yeah, Chili's decent. I mean, to me, though, it's still.

Mike Mitchell

The star of the show was the burger. Yeah. Yeah.

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We'll each go around, we'll give a closing argument, if you will, on ERvs burgers, and then end that by giving it a score from zero to five forks. Sam, you're our guest. We'll begin with you. Your thoughts, your fork score. I'd say four forks.

Four forks. I think four Forks is good.

Sam Brown

I think the sort of la. The bar is set with in n out as far as Burgers gonna agree with you there. I think that I like the sort of burger stand burger more than in n Out. And I think that's sort of the thing. And this definitely was like that step above an in n out kind of burger.

This is like the. Again, the.

And it's tough to, like, do a burger and have the meat really be the star. And I think it really was the star in that burger. And the buns, the Sesame street seed buns were such a good touch to it, too. And, yeah, I was completely happy with my meal. Wow.

Nick Weiger

Four forks. Very good score. Go ahead, spoon man. Good food, good company. I like herbs.

Mike Mitchell

I mean, I like that. Wait, you're giving them points based on me? I get points on. You gave them points, which is. Hey, and look.

Nick Weiger

Guess. Guess. A place can suffer from a bad guess. It is true. We took koala to Olive Garden.

We were, like, losing a full fork. Oh, wow. I feel bad for Olive Garden. The koala was there. Yeah.

Sam Brown

Oh, man. They're chasing him out of the kitchen with a broom.

Mike Mitchell

He's rat like. In many ways, I had a great time at herbs. The second time I had it, heavy meal. My stomach. The rest of the night was definitely a burger and a half, probably all said and done, but I really like it.

I like that it's a local place, and I feel like with rich restaurant tours, that's the way that they should spend their money. Am I saying restaurant tours? Correct. So, yeah, there's no n in the word. Like, it's restaurateur, but I think you pronounce it.

Sam Brown

That's that Jack White band restaurant tours side project. Yeah. Well, putting their money towards a place like this. I like it. I mean, I don't know how much they're going to franchise it.

Mike Mitchell

What it means. I don't know the story of herbs as well. I should go to the original location. I know it's two doors down from where it was, but I should maybe try the original. I just can't find it.

Nick Weiger

Where is it? It used to be here. It's two spots down, but I'm getting a call. Oh, yeah. Take it right now.

Go ahead, Mitch. So it's a perfect time. While you're recording a podcast, while you're. Doing a model, leave America again. There goes my whole professional opinion about.

Sam Brown

You're such a pro. You lost it refuses to enable sleep. America keeps calling me. They keep. They're trying to figure out how I slept last night.

Mike Mitchell

I'm not going to let them know. Okay, sleep America, for context, this is your CPAP. My CPAP company. Do they call. They give, like, wellness checks?

Nick Weiger

What are they call. They're calling you periodically. They're like, your CPAP told us you flatlined last night. No, it's fine. I just had Irvs.

Sam Brown

It's another 480. Yeah, they have a code for IRvs.

Mike Mitchell

Your heart rate spiked last night. Were you jacking off? Yeah, I was jacking off. Stop calling. I jack off every night.

Wives, you know this. All right, we just have to do a survey. What was it to which president and how did that affect your vote? All right, great. Those 35 seconds are accounted for.

Nick Weiger

Go ahead and resume your name. 35 seconds. What do you think? I'm on vacation.

Mike Mitchell

Anyways, I really liked herbs. I had a good time there. I think it's. I think if you want a good burger near in LA, you could do much worse than herbs. And I don't think that you can do too much better.

There's a couple of, like. But like, for a fast food burger like that, I think it's. It's really great. I gotta go for. I'll go four forks.

I'm going to do hand holding club. It's right there for me. Mitch. Four forks from the spoon, man. Mitch, you said first off, I also had some rumblies, but I fucking knew what I was getting into.

Nick Weiger

I knew what I was doing to myself. Yeah, I mean, I'm getting a birthday cake shake, for Christ's sake. We did talk a little bit about this, and we did hear Susser grousing a bit about this place. But all that said, he ended up texting us. And you saw this?

This is from Susser. I'm reading his words for baby. It's very funny. His words. Four forks.

No more, no less. Mitch. Wow. You said it wasn't a four forker. Susser.

No, that's what I said. For just four, by the way. He said, I don't know about four forks. As he said to me afterwards, he. Said, well, he's retconning it to just what I said is four.

Just four. So he's setting the baseline at four. And he's the guy who is disappointed here. And so even him is. Still has to concede that this is a golden plate club resident at minimum.

Mike Mitchell

Well, if you give it four forks or above. I asked Natalie, and I said, what's your fork score? And she thought about it for a second, and she's like, five forks. Like, for her, it was a no. Brainer that this maybe went low.

Nick Weiger

And I think. What? No, I think. I think both of your scores are great. I think.

I think that four forks is. Is like, kind of what this place deserves. I think that. But. But for me, for my fandom of this type of burger, my appreciation of just kind of like what it kind of means to the city, to its neighborhood, and then also just like, for its, you know, the fact that it's kind of having this modern sort of rebirth, but it's still, like, honoring, like, you know, its heritage.

Like, I think all those elements, it. Hasn'T morphed into something monstrous. Exactly. It hasn't turned into something else. It has a few extra.

It has this extra one in La Braid. It has another one in Newport beach. Like, it's keeping the menu basically, as is. It's keeping the food quality as is. It's not over expanding where it's going to be, the sprawling mess that's going to lose the whole point and the whole charm of this place, I think, for those reasons.

And, look, I have a lot of nostalgia for. For roadside burgers, too. As someone who grew up in SoCal, lifelong Socal, surfer dude, my dad used to be taking this place in Carson, California, Columbia burger that was very much like an herb style burger, this sort of thing loaded with. With veggies and sauce and just a whole bunch of meat and cheese. And so, like, when I have a burger like this, I'm like, this is the kind of thing I like to eat.

I'm giving five forks for this bad boy. Oh, wow. This is a five forker for me. But I can say, welcome to the Golden Plate club to Irv's burgers richly deserved. Go to herbs.

Mike Mitchell

You should try herbs also. I think jemmy just meowed. Is jemmy a secret cat? I think I heard Jimmy Meow. I heard a little meow come out of her mouth.

Nick Weiger

What a mid season reveal. That would be a cat dog, because she acts more like a cat than a dog. But when she yawns, she makes kind of a meow sound. I heard a meow. Wow, look, I got two cats.

Mike Mitchell

You know that? I know a meow. Pull on her face. See if it's a mask. The best dog comes up.

Pull on the dog's face. Yeah, I'm a dog owner. She's like, here's my face. Pull on it. See what happens.

Nick Weiger

Feels real. Feels real. Okay. Okay. All right.

Data point in favor of dog. Hey, it's time for a segment. We got a bunch of chips, and we're gonna eat them all. Chips and hail rescue Rangers. Too big, no bag.

Too small. When you've got chips, just call ch ch ch ch chips. Inhale rescue Rangers chips. Inhale every flavor. You know, it never fails.

Once we're in fall, somehow these chips will eat, um, all ch ch ch ch ch chips inhale. Okay, so this is chips inhale. Rescue Rangers. Didn't want to report that before four. No, I think it's good to get a live performance.

Mike Mitchell

I figured it out. I just looked at jemmy's phone. She's got babble, and she's learning cat. Good for you, Jemmy. You know, use code doughboys 20 at checkout.

Is that it? Probably. We'll fix it. We'll figure it out. We'll fix that.

Nick Weiger

We'll fix the version of Res two Rangers you'll hear at the end. Chips and hail will be, like, the final version of the song. We'll overdub it with you. Yeah. I was honestly like, why isn't he making this joke with Duolingo?

Sam Brown

That's the much more. I was like, ooh, that non sponsor. No doughboys code for Duolingo.

Yeah. So we've got a bunch of different chips right now. Blaze has their west coast inspired. For the west coast inspired Irv's burgers, we have some flavors that speak to that. One of them is crispy taco, and the other one is.

Nick Weiger

I'm not sure that other one's west coast inspired. Oh, fuck. That ruins my whole thing. Sorry. Their whole thing with the new flavors is they have, like, a west coast, a midwest, and an east coast flavor.

Oh, got it. So they're hometown inspired. Yeah, but Amelia could only find the west coast ones, which makes me think they maybe don't. They only sell them in their regions. That's interesting.

Well, we have the. This is a. This is a limited one. This is a hometown flavor. This is kettle cooked lime and cracked pepper.

I mean, to me, this also seems like it could be west coast. It says this is maybe southwest inspired Tang. It's funny. I think of west coast tacos. I think of soft tacos.

No, yeah, sure. Yeah, same. I get. You're right. Maybe a little bit of stretch.

Sam Brown

We also have.

Nick Weiger

Sponsored by lays. I'd love to have that frito lay money, but the doughboys can't be bought. We also have flamin hot lays, and we have sweet and spicy honey lays. I've had both of these. Oh, I'm not.

But it'll be interesting to try them on the podcast. So I guess what I'll do. You know what? I'm just gonna circulate some bags. Feel free to start chomping in.

Sam Brown

Okay. Is there a way that we rank these? We haven't done this segment in a while. Yeah, the way we usually do is we just sort of pick which our favorite is. Okay.

Nick Weiger

We don't have any specific criteria. I'm sharing this around. I'm opening up the crispy taco. I just opened up the flaming hot. Try this sweet and spicy honey.

We're gonna get a lot of plastic crinkling and crunching. We're also gonna get a lot of crunching. So we're gonna hear from our listeners that they have misophonia, and that misophonia is real. Yeah. Phony is the key part of that word.

All right, the west coast one. Let's see. Bite into memorable moments with west coast inspired spice and a savory crunch. And I can't, from the. Looking at a glance at the ingredients, I can't really tell what this is going for, so I'm just going to take a bite.

Hmm. You know, this is an issue I've run into with some of these compound flavors that are trying to do, like, a blt or, like, a burger or, like, a taco. And this one, definitely doing the crunchy taco, you get a lot of lettuce, so. And I'm not sure if lettuce is what I want. No.

Yeah. I mean, that's, like, not even, like, the dominant flavor of actual lettuce when it's in something. I do think it has not the. Dominant flavor in a salad, you know. But I do think it has, like, the good.

You know, I do think it gets that seasoned ground beef part, like, the taco meat flavor to it. So these are so much weirder than I thought that would be. You're eating the spicy honey. I've had this thing lately where I've tried these chips and stuff that are supposed to be something, and I've been like, well, that's not what you would call that. That's another, like, I had these honey mustard.

No. Spicy mustard chips the other day that I was like, no, this is horseradish. That's what this is. Oh, wow. That tastes like spicy barbecue sauce.

Sam Brown

But I mean, also, like, honey is an ingredient. There's, like, a very sweet spike of. You're right. It's not. It doesn't taste like normal honey.

Mike Mitchell

It doesn't. There. There's. It tastes closer to a barbecue sauce or something. They're not bad.

Nick Weiger

Yeah, they're pretty good. You can send those over to mitch also. I'll hand these back to you. These are the lime and cracked pepper, which I just tasted. I do like the pepper.

I don't love artificial lime. That's a big issue for me anytime it's like, lime and whatever. I always just feel like this tastes a little too sciency for me. That fake citrus. I don't know.

Sam Brown

I like it on a.

What are those, the chips? I go, nachos. Tortilla chip. Oh, like a tortilla chip? Yeah.

Nick Weiger

It's usually a little bit. It fits a little bit better. Yeah. I've been just passing this over. So I've got the flamin hot and the sweet and spicy.

Right now I'm gonna have a second one of the lime and cracked pepper. Sam, what do you think of those bad boys? Anyways, I see what you're saying. It's like the tanginess is, like, very, like, unnatural to the flavor. These are.

Mike Mitchell

I mean, one, you're right that I think of the west coast tacos. I think of soft tacos. Right. And I don't really think of lettuce being in them. There's, like, a lot of things that are kind of weird about this in many ways.

Nick Weiger

Give me, like, an al pastor flavor or something. You know what I mean? To me, it's so much taco seasoning in these ones. Like, there's just a lot of taco seasoning and the lettuce, flavor wise, like you were saying, science wise, it is kind of miraculous that they taste the way they do. I haven't liked any of these chips as much as I thought I would.

Mike Mitchell

The sweet, and I don't like the sweet. I wanted to like the sweet and spicy honey or whatever. There's more. And the flaming hot doesn't work as well on lays, I'm figuring out. That's the whole issue.

Nick Weiger

We have the flamin hot cheetos. That's just the best version. And I understand the instinct to put the flamin hot on others types of Frito lay chips. You already got the powder, but just sandblast that onto those sudden bitches. But I just don't think there's a reason to ever get the flamin hot lays unless you're really in a pinch and you need something spicy.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, that's the last one I try. It's so funny, though, you mentioning, like, science. Like, it's. Recently I had this, like, kind of complaint against myself where I'm way too impressed with the science of junk food, where, like, recently, you know, it was Easter, and I got a bag of watermelon sour patch kid jelly beans. Yeah.

Sam Brown

And I'm. You know, those watermelon sour patch kids are great. And I tried it, and I was like, oh, my God, this tastes just like them. And it's like, yeah, it's barely a different candy, right? It's like all the same ingredients.

But I was like, whoa. Oh, they did it. They did it. And that's I like, was like, oh, I gotta buy this to find out if they can do it. And it's like, we've done so much more in society and I'm like, oh, wow.

Mike Mitchell

And it's also that sort of thing of like, do you want to eat the science? I don't want to eat the science thing ever. And all of these, I'm kind of bummed out by all these. I am thoroughly underwhelmed by this. I think those sucks.

I think the lime and cracked sucks. Yeah, I don't like those. I honestly would probably, the only one I would maybe give a snack to is the sweet and spicy honey. Just cause I could see myself taking a whole bag of those down. Yeah, they're pretty eatable.

Sam Brown

It should be called spicy barbecue. Spicy barbecue would be a better name for it. Yeah. I ultimately would rank those second. I think the flamin hot still win for me, even though it's just a worse version of flamin hot.

Nick Weiger

I'm sort of a heat seeker. So I always like the flamin hot and the sweet and spicy honey does not really have any spice as far as I can tell. Wyatt, speaking of heat seeker, the first place I had buffalo wings was in Sandwich, Massachusetts, or was in Cape Cod. Wow. Bobby Burns.

Mike Mitchell

Which is now closed. There was one in sandwich. There wasn't sandwich. That was right by where Cafe Chu was. Oh, no way.

Nick Weiger

All right. Yeah. So that's the first place I ever had buffalo wings. Bobby Burns. And when, like, it was like, what are these?

Mike Mitchell

Like now a thing that's like, what are these? What are buffalo wings? It was like a novel thing at a certain point. It's made of buffalo. But buffaloes don't have wings.

Sam Brown

No. Both dominoes took off with that idea. But I remember loving him back then and people loved Bobby Burns. I guess Bobby Burns was the place that would be like, oh, did you hear Caleb got arrested for trying to get served at Bobby Burns?

Nick Weiger

I am going to say just about all of these. I think I would probably give, honestly a hard whack to snacker, whack to the lime and cracked pepper. Although I do like the texture. The kettle cook texture. The crispy taco is like a whack.

The flamin hot maybe, I guess mild snack just cause I like flamin hot and the sweet and spicy honey snack. But I'm completely unenthused about all these. That would be my ranking from 4321. I was very caught off guard by you being like, I'd give a hard whack to that. Yeah.

Sam Brown

I mean, it's a chip, I guess. No, you'll be confused. It's a little sexy. You can shape the bag in a way. In a way.

Nick Weiger

Soft whack is kind of the biggest indictment of all because no one's getting anything out of a software. What are we doing? What are we doing? It's just depression. Yeah.

Yeah. That's ever in whack for me.

Sam Brown

I'm just doing this because I have a free ten minutes. I'm a human being that feels the need to do this. I'm gonna go my lowest is the lime chips. Those are bottom. Huge wax.

Mike Mitchell

I think they suck. Crispy taco is a soft whack. The honey. And this is the. I'm putting in my order to the honey.

Spicy honey. I'd say close to a soft whack, too, sadly. And then I'd say a slight snack to flaming hot is my top one. But none of these are good. Sam, you get a ranking.

Sam Brown

Yeah. I would go the whack to this. Like a bad whack to. I'll hold that up just a second. This one.

This is what I hate. Yeah. I'm not a huge, like, super spicy guy, and I see what you say about the Cheetos thing, so I just like flamin hots. It's, like, not my thing. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

I mean, I like it occasionally, but it's. I'm not a huge flamin hot guy. And give a good whack off in a good way to the crispy top. They're a little sexy. And then, you know, that's sweet.

Sam Brown

That would get me there. That sweet. And the spicy barbecue sauce.

Nick Weiger

I want to shout something out, which is, you're both Celtics fans. Your team is. I was going to get into it before we ended. You're wearing the Jason Tatums, and this. Is about old shoes that people make fun of me for still wearing.

Mike Mitchell

I got to change them up. But they do. They are. They have the green back there. That's true.

Sam Brown

Yeah. The Celtics are poised for people to follow the NBA, that the number one seed in the NBA. They're poised to walk to the NBA finals. We'll see what ends up transpiring. But everything's lined up for you all this year.

Mike Mitchell

This is where we have look, by the way, we didn't even mention that. Sandwich, Massachusetts, where they play baseball. The summer leagues. Summer league. The movie is based in sandwich.

Sam Brown

Wow. But you're Red Sox, Celtics, and Patriots, right? I got to be in New York. Like. Like, my whole, you know, like, really, like, upping it with the Red Sox.

Went through that, like, 2003, 2004 season. Oh, wow. And. Yeah, like, that. That 2004 Yankees Red Sox was, like, the best, most dramatic thing I've ever seen.

Mike Mitchell

It can never be replicated. Yeah. It's weird to be, like, in this industry and be like, well, like, you know, our kind of storytelling is pretty good, but fucking 2004, like, you can't read it. Maybe the happiest I've ever been, maybe about anything. It might be over, and I got to be, like, you know, like, in New York for that, which sounds like.

Sam Brown

Like, kind of counterintuitive because it's like, in 2003, I thought they were going, like, in 2003, I was like, yeah, they're gonna fucking beat the Yankees. And then Aaron Boone hit that home. Run off Wakefield, rest in peace. I believe it was off Wakefield. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cause you were like, he's. This is, like, the 8th. This guy's 8th in the lineup. And this is Wakefield knowing he was awesome, too. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

He's a knuckleballer, though. So it's just like, the ball dies, and he just, like, cranked this home run, and you just heard the city explode and just, like, my heart drop. That sucks. And just feeling that, like, that pain of the curse and everything. And then the next year was, like, so excited about everything and, like, like, such a cool team with the idiots.

Sam Brown

And, you know, Johnny Damon growing his hair long and being the, like, anti Yankees was so cool. And then, you know, you got. You got schilling just, like, in the first game, like, with the bloody sauce and just like. And they almost. People who continued to be likable after.

Nick Weiger

The fact.

Sam Brown

They hadn't. They didn't peak then. No, they're still upward trajectory. Yeah. It's so funny.

You watch, like, the documentaries about this, and even at that time, a few years after, you see Kurt chilling. Oh, he looks rough. That guy's had a few drinks. He's, like, sweating in his talking head interviews, he looks like. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

And he is an asshole, too, now. But that was the greatest, greatest. And Celtics, I am. I'm nervous. This.

I mean, they're in the playoffs now, and I just am. It's weird to be a top seed and then be nervous. The weight of high expectations. Sandwich, Massachusetts. We got.

We're Boston sports fans, sketch group, guys. We got all of. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. You just overlapping. You put microphones in front of the two of you guys faces, and you turn into Bill Simmons and Ryan Rusillo.

Fucking kick your ass. I'll take. Yeah, I'll take it again. I'd like that. Spotify, buddy.

Nick Weiger

Yeah, you can start comparing Red Sox to Cobra Kai cast members.

Mike Mitchell

Red Sox is kind of unlikable. Patriots about to take that turn now because Robert Krabs being a dick, I always. I do like, you know, after, like, all those years of people being like, oh, fucking hate the Patriots and being like, well, you know, like, we win. I do like, you know, them being a bad team and rooting for a bad team and having low expectations for them. It's fun to go through those eras, but that's.

It's the opposite with the Celtics right now, where I'm like, I feel like they might just blow it. So. Yeah, yeah. The thing is, I love. I love these guys.

Sam Brown

I love Jason Tatum. Love, love Jalen Brown, Derek White. Been great, and such a great team, and you just want to see them bring home that championship. So that that's in history. So that's set in stone.

Mike Mitchell

So it is. But it's like, we're just one of those cities where you're like, ah, they're gonna fucking blow. It feels like. It feels possible. We'll see.

Nick Weiger

We'll see what happens. Especially with, like, golden. Like, I thought they had that golden state series. That was a wild series. Stuff went nuclear.

And I think also that was just one of those things where you're like, oh, shit, we're in the finals. Like, you kind of had that feeling for that Celtics team. That's like, the thing with, like, tatum. Like, when Kyrie was injured and, like, tatum brought the team, like, in one of his first. It was first season, right?

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. And they were, like, right there. They were like, you know, like, minutes away from going to the finals, and no one thought it was possible. And you just want to see that guy. I think Tatum's such a cool guy is.

These shoes have. I love the shoes. Great player. They have Deuce on the. Which is his son.

Nick Weiger

Oh, there you go. I like that. His son's nickname is Deuce. And he puts his son's nickname, who's mean to Deuce? People who don't like Deuce.

People don't like Deuce. People mean to him on that. But what are we gonna say? The reason I brought up Jason Tatum in the first place, and we went on this tangent is because Jason Tatum has my favorite ruffles varietal. The Jason Tatum's flamin hot barbecue chips.

They're really fucking good. They're good. And I get frustrated because the LeBron flavor, I'm a Laker fan growing up from SoCal, and of course, there's naturally a self detater. Yeah. You know what?

This is part of it. Boo. You guys, I think that's the best rivalry in. I agree. I think it's, you know, the Yankees one has, like, real venom to it.

Sam Brown

I think the Lakers Celtics one. There's at least some admiration, for sure. Yeah, look, we fight. At the end of the day, we're all watching that Biden porno together.

Nick Weiger

But the LeBron and the Anthony Davis chips are, like, not nearly as good like LeBron has. He's like a flamin hot. What the fuck is this? It's probably because they're not as good as players. How dare you?

Yeah, Anthony Davis has the. Has, like, a peno lime, and it's got the same thing. It's got that sciency lime flavor to it. Yeah, it's a bad. It's a bad flavor.

Sam Brown

I thought you were talking about their championships. I thought you. Their chips aren't as good. And I was like, yeah, yeah, you're right. That'll be its own debate bubble.

Okay. Every team was on the same with a level playing field. Hey, just like a restaurant value. Feedback on some of the feedback. Today's email is from Amelia, but not our Amelia.

Nick Weiger

This is from heat salad seeker in the doe. Scored. Okay. Amelia writes. Hi, Doe.

Boys and dough, girls. I've got a question for you. Recently, my four year old son caught a nasty stomach bug from the other kids at his daycare. Over the next few days, I saw that the stomach bug spread to his little sister and then to my husband. As I write this, I am sure that I am mere minutes away from shitting my brains out.

So my question for you is, like. A titanic note or something. Civil war.

Sam Brown

My leg is being amputated as we speak. Hopefully, infection does not pass to my bloodstream. Woman's reading it, like, two months later with her new husband. So my question for you two is, what foods would you indulge in it? And if you knew you were going to have diarrhea anyway?

Nick Weiger

Honestly, at the front of my mind, I have looming diarrhea. I can have whatever I want. Want Irv's burgers birthday shake. Cause that is just like diarrhea is gonna happen. God.

And that shake was. Sounds like it did happen. Um.

You'll never know. Good.

What do you think? Tell me. Tell me, God damn it. I gotta know. I'll tell you.

I thought. But. But the answer is yes.

Mike Mitchell

Sick. There will be a poll on, like, Reddit about whether you had diarrhea or not. I think Weyker was lying about having diarrhea. I think he didn't actually have diarrhea, I will say that. But Milkshake is a thing where I'm just like, this is fucking.

Nick Weiger

This is gonna be really bad for my stomach. I am going to pay a price for this milkshake. So I think my answer might just be a really, really good milkshake. That's a great answer. I think that it's up there.

Mike Mitchell

I think also, I mean, here's the thing, is, like, spicy food. If I know it's coming anyways, but I mean, like, it still hurts no matter what. Is the. I mean, this. You're like, yeah, why not just, like, eat some barbed wire?

Oh, it's the barbed wire coated. Yeah. It depends. I I think that, uh, I think that with. If I know it's gonna go through.

I guess you're right, though. Maybe more cheese heavy, like our dairy heavy. Yeah. Like a milkshake. Maybe just some pizza or something like that.

But I eat that shit anyways. I think for me, the rumblies, which I'm always afraid of, which we talk about rumblies in the, in the. In the tummy, that it's spicy food for me. So if I know things are gonna get out of there anyways, I'm going spicy. Yeah.

Nick Weiger

Maybe you get some Thai food or something or have some spicy wings or. Honestly, Nashville hot chicken or. Oh, sure. Or something like that. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

I mean, it would make it horrible, too. So I don't know if this is. Helpful, but, Sam, the consequences are locked in. You're gonna have some intestinal distress. What do you.

Sam Brown

I mean, like, I think I would, you know, probably shy away. I'm not like, oh, sick. I'm definitely gonna have diarrhea. Better go for it. Like, let's see if we can break the toilet.

Let's see how bad I can get it. But if I was doing that, you know, I was talking about earlier, I think I would get the hat. I think I would get a pastrami sandwich, and I think I would get their chili cheese fries. That's a great. And then maybe a side hot dog.

Mike Mitchell

That's a great. That's the best answer, I think, so far. Wow. Yeah, that is, that is an excellent answer. If you have a question or comment.

Anyways, good luck with your shitting. Yeah, yeah. Good luck, Amelia. I hope you and your family are doing okay as of this airing. You can always email us@feedbackirdfuck.com or leave us a voicemail at eight 30 godot.

Nick Weiger

That's 830-463-6844 and to get the Doughboys double our weekly bonus episode, plus our entire pre 2018 back catalog, subscribe at Patreon our producers, Emma Erd Brink. Our associate producers, Emilia Marino. Our engineer is Casey Donahue. And our video editor is Mike Dorfman. Sam Brown.

Whitest kids you know is on shout tv. Tell us about it and anything else. You want to plug whitest kids you know and shout tv. We're excited. It's May 1 is when it's gonna be available there.

Sam Brown

And then pretty soon there's, right, right around the corner there's gonna be a box set. Oh, awesome. So excited about that. Like physical media. Yeah, physical media.

And then our other big news is that we got into the Tribeca film festival with our movie Mars. Oh, that's awesome. And also, really quick, I got a shout out that a friend of mine is suffering from stage four cancer, and I'm doing a gofundme for her. So I've got links to it on my instagram. And so that'sambrown.

But if you search Elizabeth Hayhurst on, oh, Elizabeth. Yeah, yeah. I donated as well. Please support. Yeah, please support.

Going through a hard time, and if you just want to help someone out and help them through a hard time in their life, please help. Yeah, that'd be great. Shout out to Elizabeth and Jesse. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's, that's very exciting. The birthday boys were at when you came into La, UCB La on Franklin.

Mike Mitchell

You did your live show before, I think maybe before the show premiered. We were there watching you and laughing, laughing it up. It was great. Yeah. I was like, oh, you guys are like, laughing like, it's your birthday, right?

And we were like, it was, it was very much like the Han solo getting his name.

Sam Brown

Just a bunch of birthday boys.

Mike Mitchell

We started writing. That's when we started writing in the theater. But we've known each other a long time. You're one of the good ones. Thank you for doing the pod.

Nick Weiger

Awesome to have you on the show. So, so fun. I'm not one of the bad members of whitest kids. Good members. I'm at one of the good ones in comedy.

Sam Brown

Yeah, the Timmy guy sucks.

No, he doesn't. He doesn't. Whitest kids, you know. Shout tv. That'll do it for this episode of doughboys.

Nick Weiger

Until next time for the Spoon man, Mike Mitchell. I'm Nick Weiger. Happy eating ya.

Hey, buddy, want doughboys? Merch. We're talking hats, shirts, sweatshirts, patches, glasses, all sorts of stuff. Aprons. It's all available@kinshipgoods.com.

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