California Pizza Kitchen 2 with Avital Ash

Avital Ash

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Nick Weiger

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Avital Ash

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Wait, does that. Does that mean I get a bigger allowance? Whoa. That's a lot of questions, but yes, yes, absolutely, and probably not. It's better over here.

Nick Weiger

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In 1982, the restaurant Spago opened on West Hollywood's Sunset Strip, quickly becoming a mecca for celebrity diners like Barbra Streisand, Dolly Parton, and Sylvester Stallone, and making a celebrity chef out of founder Wolfgang Puck. Puck's then novel fusion approach of merging cuisines from different cultures birthed one of his signature salmon and creme fraiche pizza, a mashup of a bagel with lox and a neapolitan style pie purportedly created to satiate a ravenous Joan Collins. In 1985, dismayed after an unresolved trial outcome, federal prosecutors Rick Rosenfield and Larry Flax abandoned the courtroom in favor of an even tenser the kitchen. And while they didn't have much expertise in the restaurant business. They had a focused concept, a California style pizzeria in Tony Beverly Hills, and made a savvy hire poaching Puck's pizza chef ed Ladue to oversee the menu.

While Spago's salmon Pizza appealed to Hollywood elites like Burt Reynolds Rosenfield and Flax's BBQ chicken pizza appealed to the masses. And in the ensuing four decades, the chain has grown to nearly 200 locations in eleven countries, not just as sit down chain restaurants, but as kiosk versions in stadiums and airports. Today, Puck's once artisan pizzas are produced in factory kitchens and sold in the frozen foods aisle of grocery stores, as are those of flax and Rosenfield simulacrum, the natural progression of restaurant success from fine dining destination to mass market microwave meal. As for these lawyers, now 40 year old concept, the verdict is in. Guilty of having staying power.

This week on doughboys, we return to California pizza kitchen.

Avital Ash

Go. It's the dough boys.

Nick Weiger

Welcome to doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co host, tummy trouble, in Little Studio, the Spoon man, Mike Mitchell, our tech correspondent. Mike Mitchell. No. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

Bye bye bye. Yeah, the Nasdaq's looking fucking horrible. Right. For our audio listeners. While Jennifer.

That's right, the Nasdaq. While Jemmy sweetly naps next to him, Mitch has something that he never has in studio, a laptop today and is also on his cell phone doing a bit at the same time. Head gumstocks. Sell. Sell as much as you can.

Did I seem like a Wall street guy? Yeah, very much so. Wanna see my cool background? It's the tomorrow war. Oh, that's cool.

Yeah. Is that via Amazon? Uh, what, like, was that like an. Like an Amazon prime had, like, a special background? Background, or is that something.

No, they just sent it out from that because they took pictures on set. They used that at one point, yeah. Oh, so you're just using an actual cast photo? I'm using cast photo. That's fun.

Nick Weiger

Another laptop's closed. So why do you have it? Well, Jimmy. I was here, but then Jimmy had to sit, and then I thought this could turn into a great bit where I'm talking about the stock market and being a stock market guy, and then I'm gonna put it right here for the rest of this. I don't know.

Mike Mitchell

You always have some sort of a device. I know it's unusual for you to have a laptop, so I just. To what end? People yell at me for having my phone up. But that's my laptop.

It's the same thing as an iPad. Well, get your laptop out then. Also, you also check your text on your phone. That's not true. That is not true.

Nick Weiger

It is true. Let's see what's going on here. There's no big text right now between all of us. Hey, doughboys. Emma, Amelia, and Jemmy.

I hope the headgum studio has a bidet. Jezel, aka ahoy hoi in the Dos cord. Roastedbirdfuck.com. Wow. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

Sorry, I was looking at my texts. Wives. We're here. We're here. We're here.

We're doing a big one today. Revisiting a big one. We're revisiting a big chain. This is a chain that I don't think we revisited or we've reviewed since 2017. Does that sound right?

Wow. It's been a while. Seven years ago. Isn't it crazy that the podcast has been going that long? Four score.

Nick Weiger

It's not quite four score. It's just seven years ago right now. Yeah. What is four score? What the hell was Lincoln talking about?

He's saying 80. It's a fancy way to say 80. 87 years ago is what. Yeah. Cause the score is 20, and then.

So you say four score, 20. I say 87 years ago when the nation was founded. I think that's what he's saying. A score is 20. I think so.

Mike Mitchell

Wow. You learned that? I think it says. I think a score is the same as a Fortnight, which is. Oh, wait, no, Fortnite is two weeks.

Nick Weiger

Yeah. I think a score is 28. Fortnite is an action shooter, my man. You don't have to tell me. I guess I just suck today.

Avital Ash

You're doing great. I guess that's what it is. The Wall street bit was good, Mitch. The Wall street bit was pretty good. Yeah, you're right.

Mike Mitchell

Wait, a fortnight is what? What do you mean, what? I think a fortnight is two weeks, and I think it's two weeks. I think a score is just a way of saying 20, not 20 days. Everyone knows this old English.

Everyone knows all this bullshit. Just fancy, flowery terms. You don't need to know them. But, yeah, he decided to say, instead of saying 87 years ago, we said four score and seven years ago, you know, a little too chatty. Lincoln.

Nick Weiger

Get it out. Get it out. People would remember it more. People would remember 87 years ago more. I think it's poetic.

Mike Mitchell

I wish I could punch up the. What was that? The Gettysburger dress? Yeah, I wish I could. I wish I could punch it up.

Nick Weiger

He had a room. He had a room there? Yeah. He had a bunch of writers. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

Let me guess. Well, as you know, with most comedy rooms, it's fat party animals and kind of thin. Well, not thin, but, like, nerdy. Yeah, not thin. What does that go nuts.

Nerdy. Quiet guys. Yeah, sure. Some would say spectrum y, I guess. I don't know if we'll have to delete this from the episode, but I think you're fine.

Yeah. I mean, it is just the truth. Yeah. So who do you think would be in Lincoln's room? I mean, it makes me think Taft was in there as, like, a big, fat guy.

Nick Weiger

Taft was a party animal. Maybe a little bit too young for Taft, I think. When did Taft. Well, I mean, I'm just saying, let's have fun with who was in Lincoln's writing. Yes.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, Taft's dad was in there, and he was, like, the cut up, keeping the room loose, but he wasn't actually writing much, but he was, like, there. It was worth the salary on that one guy just. Cause he kept everything. Roosevelt seems like a big, fat party animal, right?

Nick Weiger

Teddy Roosevelt? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how much of a party animal he was. Wasn't he a big.

Mike Mitchell

He was like a big, fat. Like, I wouldn't. I don't know if he's a big, fat guy. He's like a barrel. He was like a big.

Yeah, I'm saying he was like the man. You don't have to be necessarily, like a fat guy. He had, like, a big, boisterous. I guess. Yeah.

Nick Weiger

He probably would be kind of have alpha dog energy, which would be helpful, and then there'd be like, yeah, more. Some dudes who are like me, but they'd be named like Thaddeus.

Mike Mitchell

Shut the fuck up, Thaddeus. I think we have to get our points across before we get too humorous here. Shut up, Thaddeus. That's probably what was going on. I, Elminster, have something to say.

Anyway. Woggs Emma. Let's hit him with a drop. Woggs Emma.

Nick Weiger

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Yeah. I think in that clip I was talking about. Well, I'm not gonna get into it. I don't have to say what was going on. Yeah, fine.

Nick Weiger

People remember if they've heard the episode. Yeah, I finished masturbating and that sound played. That's what happened. So that sound went off when I finished. I'm embarrassed to look at our guest while saying this.

You're telling that story in the room and Lincoln's like, all right, let's get back to business. Everyone's laughing, but he's like, oh, we gotta focus up here. And Franklin's like, tell me more.

Mike Mitchell

He's a horndog. He's a little bit of a horn dog. Yeah. Yeah. Can we order lunch from the old chowder emporium?

Oh, my God. Trying to think of a 19th century food.

Their poor pa. Yeah. Who was probably the. I don't know. I don't know.

History enough. I was trying to go with, somebody help me out here. Who would be the pa? Oh, he'd be like, the fail. He'd be like the shitty nephew of, like, William Henry Harrison.

Nick Weiger

Yeah, he'd be like some like, oh, yeah, that's John Quincy Adams grandson. Like, yeah, he just like, well, John Quincy Adams son. I mean, well, no, John Quincy. I don't. No, never mind.

Mike Mitchell

He's from my city. I know.

I was trying to think of a. This just doesn't have legs. It just doesn't work. We were fine with it. We just were trying to, like, we.

Were trying to make it keep. We were trying to keep it going. Keep it going. Here's the thing. We were trying to do it for you.

Nick Weiger

We're trying to do this for you. The idea was it would be like some sort of Nepo baby like, fail son who'd be related to a historical american figure. The thing is, is that knowing our listeners, they'll have a lot of opinions on this bit. And like, they should have said, this guy fucking. Cause they'll know someone that was a fail son like that.

Mike Mitchell

Anyways, fuck you guys. Once again, the Nasdaq isn't open for trading attacks. All right, fucking whatever. Wives. Hi.

Sent this in a while back, but I'm resubmitting it as probably doesn't contain anything that might get flagged copyright wise. Thanks for all the laughs, Jeremy. Thanks, Jeremy. Dropsirdfuck.com dot before we introduce our guest, Emma. Jeremy spoken on pod?

Nick Weiger

He sure did. Emma, before we get started, can you share your story about when you're in New Hampshire, you also don't have to. No, I'll share it. I was at a gala for my dad's charter school, the grant state arts academy in New Hampshire, this weekend, and I sat at a table with a former Miss New Hampshire who told me that her boyfriend is a dope boys fan. Shout out to former misses New Hampshire's boyfriend.

Let us know if you're burger brigade or spoon nation. It just is not. It's just. It's just not fair. It's just insane.

I'm hot. Salad 420 in the doe scored. Cool. It's cool, man.

My avatar is koalic. Oh, cool, man.

Mike Mitchell

Oh, boy. Wives. We're doing all right here. We're doing all right. And hey, we're thrilled to have this guest back on the show Irl for the first time.

Nick Weiger

A writer, actor, and comedian. You can see her stand up live April 27 at the yard in Los Angeles, and also this may in London, Edinburgh, and Glasgow. Avital ash Abi Tal, thanks so much for being here. Thank you for having me back. What a treat.

And in person, we're very excited to. Have you here in talking about a restaurant we haven't been to in a while. And also, I got now for the pA, how about Hugo Revere? He's like, Paul Revere's like, yeah. I wonder if they.

Mike Mitchell

I wonder if the thing is, by your reaction to it, it seems like a home run. No, it's pretty good. Maybe you want to find a word. We were talking about exonyms, which you found very boring. Exonyms are great word.

Avital Ash

Well, there's a word that is like nepotism, but I think it, it's almost, it might be like the origin of frat. Okay, let's find this. It was in a book I just read. I read. Sorry, this is terrible.

Mike Mitchell

I mean, it was very funny beforehand. Weiger was saying before the podcast started, you know what's a great word? And I was just sitting in here being like, this sucks. Not for me. This environment's not for me.

Oh, go ahead. You might like it. Maybe you won't let me hear it. Cronyism. Oh, yeah, I know cronyism.

Avital Ash

I looked it up. Nepotism is like, I hire my family. Yeah. My cousin. Cronyism is like I hire mickeys.

Nick Weiger

Yeah, yeah. I hire, like, my friend. Yeah, I was thinking Hugo, I guess, would be nepotism, but it made me think of cronyism. Yeah, it was really important to interrupt you for crony. That was very helpful.

Avital Ash

Thank you. Drowning over here. I need any help I can get. I think the. I think the way mix, Mitch, I think the fix is, I think you have to say it would be Paul Revere's, like, say, front loaded with Paul Revere handhold people through that.

Nick Weiger

Like, it'd be Paul Revere's grandson. And then I think the name should sound a little bit more fake. Sonny. So, like. So Hugo's too cool.

Hugo's too cool. And it's also, like, signs, like, is it old timey? I can't really tell. So, Todd Revere. Yeah, Todd Revere.

Mike Mitchell

Honestly, I think Todd Revere is maybe. That screenwriting lesson for your listeners. You want to be clear. You don't want to beat them over the head, but you want to make them feel smart, that they follow it. Yeah.

Avital Ash

And you make it. They have no problem feeling smart. That is not an issue them to their readers. Yeah, Todd Revere is pretty good. Todd Revere is good.

Nick Weiger

Yeah. I wonder if there is just a toddler. You know, how there are, like, the atoms? Like, there are, like, there's gotta be some sort of fucking loser who probably listens to the podcast for sure. No, that's, like, I think people can trace their lineage.

There's so many people who, like, trace their lineage back to, you know, whatever, the founding fathers. And they just, like, don't do shit. Like, I think they think coolidges famously were, like, just, like, had so much money and they never had to work at all in relation to Jennifer Coolidge. You know what? I would not be shocked if Jennifer Coolidge was a Coolidge.

Avital Ash

Yeah. Very talented. But, I mean, that's the kind of thing that happens, because who's the guy who's like. Who's like a Vanderbilt? There's a famous actor who's like a Vanderbilt.

Mike Mitchell

Oh, yeah. James Vanderbilt from. That's who it is. Wait, tell us about exonyms. Well, first, I'm really embarrassed that you both knew cronyism.

Avital Ash

Cause that was a new discovery for me. Nothing to be embarrassed about. No, that's not at all. Listeners, for sure are like, what a fucking idiot. Not at all.

Mike Mitchell

You're looking more in my direction, by the way. When you say this. You're like, I can't. Like, I can't believe you knew Corona. We both were discussing exonyms, and that was new to you.

I did not know exonym. I truly. I don't think I've ever heard exonyms before. Tell us about exonyms, because I do think it's fascinating. It's what you call a place when you're not from that place, and it's often different than what the inhabitants of that place call it.

Nick Weiger

Sure. The way that, like, you know, I would say Japan. And it's actually. It's actually, they would say nihon or Nippon. Yeah.

So it's like. It's. Yeah, that is interesting. Quincy with a z. You say Quincy, Mitch.

That's an example of it. I'm telling you. It's an example. Although I do say Quincy. Cause I have no.

Mike Mitchell

Now you've been. But that came out in context of. I was trying to figure out how to say the three cities, and I think I fucked it up. London. Edinburgh rule.

Avital Ash

Edinburgh. Edinburgh. I did say Edinburgh growing up. Cause I think it was like. It felt like a borough, I always said.

But then people made fun of me, and I've adjusted, and I have to sometimes say it, like, in the scottish accent, Edinburgh. Like, I'm making fun of it in order to feel like I can say it. It spelled like Edinburgh. Edinburgh. I have a dream of performing at Edinburgh, but you should.

Mike Mitchell

We've been asked to. He's not gonna do it. Why? I've never crossed the notion. I look at Edinburgh.

Nick Weiger

I look at Edinburgh. It's okay. It's just my. It's just a dream of mine. It's just a dream.

Avital Ash

Help him fulfill his dream. Mitch can do it. Go do your fucking one man show over there. My one man show? What, are you fucking out of your mind?

Like, without your left arm, right arm. Whichever one you jerk off with. Jacking it through. Jacking it through the ears? Is that what it is?

Mike Mitchell

September 11, I heard the news. Right into the shower, I went. I knew I wasn't gonna have a lot of time that day. Would people pay to see that? They would absolutely pay to see.

Nick Weiger

To hear you talk for an hour about jacking off. Are you kidding me? Our listeners, they would love that. So do you hate Scotland or, like, what's your issue? No, I just.

I don't know. I don't like. I don't like travel, and I think I'd be like. I have issues with claustrophobia and feeling trapped. And I think if I was on a plane that crossed an ocean, that would be.

You know, I could do it, but I think it would be. Have you done it? No, I've never left North America. You went to Hawaii, though. I did go to Hawaii when I was a kid, yeah.

So I guess that counts. So, I mean, you don't like to travel. That's the hold up. I was gonna ask what the holdup was. I think Nasdaq just got back to.

Avital Ash

Me when you were doing your bit, it was the worst fake typing I've ever seen. It was hard to hold onto the phone, and. Yeah, there it is. That's what it looked like. It was just kind of just hitting.

The same two keys over and over. I'm actually a pretty good typer. Yeah, with one hand, I bet.

Practice. Years of practice. It's not entirely true. Do you not like the prep and the minutiae of traveling, or you don't like to be somewhere else? I don't like any of it.

Nick Weiger

But you do seem pretty well traveled yourself. Or at least you have some travel on the horizon. Yeah, well, and I did do the Edinburgh Fringe festival. That's where this all started, so I spent a month there. Wow.

A month? A month. Yeah. Here's the thing that attracts me about the UK and the rest of the world in general is. What are you doing?

Mike Mitchell

I'm trying to type down everything. You're saying. You're doing a transcript of this episode. I am. Mitch.

Nick Weiger

That's needless busy work now, because Apple podcasts, the app now has AI generated transcripts. I. Yes. And we know that. It's basically the end of us.

Yeah, we're. We're. We're. I mean, we're due for another canceling. We're absolutely due.

Mike Mitchell

It's been a while since they decided that with Rob Lowe that we had needed a canceling. So I think it's time for another one. It's over. Is that a folded in ad just in real time, or what happened? No, not at all.

Nick Weiger

Not at all. Okay. What was that wise? Also, Apple has spatial audio now, so it feels like you're in the room when you're listening. Yeah, it's wise.

Well, and with the Apple vision Pro, I mean, you can feel like you're listening to multiple pods at once. Yeah, or you'd be listening to. Listening to a podcast over here, watching something over here, and seeing stats from your favorite game over here. And then if I get sick of it, I just say to my homepod, hey, Siri, turn off the tv, and it will go off. Right.

Anyway, amazing stuff they're doing over there. Someone should be paying you. I don't know who, but you were there for a month. Apple will never pay this podcast, ever. I mean, also, fuck Apple, right?

Mike Mitchell

We don't like. I think all. They're all bad. They're all bad. I'm very much in the apple ecosystem, but none of these companies are cheer on.

Nick Weiger

They're all bad. So, going back to what I was saying, you were in Edinburgh. Yeah. That was pretty good. Edinburgh for Aaron Burr.

Avital Ash

Yeah, Edinburgh, sir. One of the great. I mean, Michael Bay directed spot Aaron Burr. The got milk spot we're talking about. Oh, I don't even know.

Mike Mitchell

Are you? I mean, it might be an age thing. We may be. I remember the Got milk, like magazine ads, but not the commercial. The original spot.

Nick Weiger

The original got milk spot, which launched this whole campaign, was a Michael Bay directed film where a very good actor. I can't get a name. Good. Yeah, he's the actor's name. He's in.

He's in Twister. He's in Twister. And he's got a bunch of credits. I can't remember his name right now, but he's eating a peanut butter sandwich and he gets. There's a trivia question about who killed Alexander Hamilton, the famous duel.

And he's in, like, a museum. Like, he, like, works in the museum where they've got all the Aaron Burr stuff. So he just knows the answer. And they call him up and he's like, Owen Burr. Cause he's got peanut butter in his mouth and he's like Ernie from milk.

And he tried to pour some milk, and then there's no milk left. There's no milk. And it's like, got milk? Yeah. That's a good spot.

Yeah. And this was an integrated ad for got milk? Yeah, for milk for the American Dairy Association. I heard those two that, like, they got into an argument over in the writers room about what was a better punch up joke. I was trying to call it back.

Avital Ash

To the thing from an advertising perspective. Do you think it's stronger to have the conflict and he fails because he doesn't have the milk or he wins the day because he has the milk right there. Well, they were very much like, you need milk. So if you don't have milk, you are fucked. You're fucked.

Exactly. It's a cautionary tale. I think the way they did it worked okay. Also, end of milk is so, like, the end. Like, I feel like I never finish milk.

Nick Weiger

It's always, no, you don't want that last little bit. Yeah, yeah. The fight was over. Ye olde oyster house versus another spot. There we go.

Mike Mitchell

Now I got him back on. I had a so. So the thing that I'm interested in about the UK and the greater world outside of the United States and Canada is rail travel. Cause I love getting on the choo choo. Did you love getting railed?

Avital Ash

I was.

Nick Weiger

Boom among us. Did you. Did you make much use of the rail system while you're over there? I didn't really. I mean, there is a train from London to Edinburgh, but the flight was cheaper and shorter.

Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. But I did, you know, like, I used the tube to get around in London.

That's fun. Like all the tube logs. You wouldn't know because you've never been over there. I know what the tube. You're gonna make stuff up.

Mike Mitchell

Elevators. A lift over there. I do know that. Hmm. Is an escalator also a lift?

Yeah. Yeah. It's. Everything is a lift. Anything that gets you up is a lift.

Avital Ash

Yeah. Percocet. Is that a downer? What's that one? That walkway that moves you, like on a flat plane?

What do you call that? I think I read what the name was, and it was something like, just called, like, a forward people mover. I think it is. Might be called people mover, but I think I remember it having, like, a dumber, simpler name than I expected. I think I remember somebody referred to it as the people mover, and I thought it sounded really dumb.

And I think that might have actually. Been what it might be, what it's called. Yeah. Um, I'm looking at it. Look, you don't gotta go over there.

Mike Mitchell

I mean, you're not gonna. Do you think you'll never. I mean, I'm not trying to. Phil Rosenthal, you here, but you think you'll never. You think you'll never.

You'll never travel over, you'll never cross the sea? If Phil Rosenthal gave me $100,000, I could. I could do. I might. But it's not about the money.

I mean, it's not. I mean, it is expensive to some degree, sure, but that's not. You can afford to travel overseas. I could, yeah. The main draw is getting railed.

Avital Ash

That's the main thing you want. No, I don't. I just, like, I don't know. It's like, this is like me saying to you, Mitch, like, why do you travel? Why don't you just stay at home and read by yourself?

Nick Weiger

Like, you thinking of that? He's like, I don't want to do that. Right. So just put yourself in that mindset. You want to read by yourself at home.

Mike Mitchell

I sit at home and I don't travel a lot. Yeah. But I'm saying it's like trying to put yourself in a mindset of, why don't you do this thing that I enjoy? It's cause I'm not into it. I know.

Avital Ash

Yeah. That's okay. I was just wondering if that was just the reason you don't want to do it ever. Yeah, I don't want to do it. I do respect the not giving in to the pressure of it.

Because I think there is this amount of, like, you gotta be well traveled, well read, which obviously you don't give a shit about being well read. No, I don't give a shit. And you're just like, yeah, I'll stay here with my narrow minded views. Oh, they're very narrow. The other word I like, what about Japan or something?

Mike Mitchell

I mean, that's to me is like, you'd like a place like that. Nihon, I call it Nihon. You can't. You don't go over there. I don't know.

Nick Weiger

I mean, like, there's parts of it that seem interesting. Again, the thing that I like the most is infrastructure. So, like, just going over there and being able to ride the train, that seems great. The public transit, all that stuff seems great. Walkable cities.

I'm into all that. It's just like, the language barrier is one thing. Cause I like to talk to strangers. And then also I'm just like, I don't know. Then just the hubbub of travel and the expense and everything.

I don't know. It's a pain in the ass. Sure. I'm not ruling it out over my entire lifetime. I'm just saying, like, why is this the focus of this episode?

Mike Mitchell

I was just wondering what the real issue was, that's all. I don't know if I ever knew what it really was. You just don't want to do it, that's fine. Let's just apply to Edinburgh, get rejected, and then we don't have to talk about it anymore. Do it.

What if we get accepted? Do it. Happen of our show there. Yeah, you'll definitely get accepted somewhere. Probably somewhere cool.

Avital Ash

But at the least, somewhere bad. You know what, though? At the very least, he knows that there ain't no way I'm gonna apply to this bullshit. Do you need him to do it? I would need him to help me do it.

Mike Mitchell

I'm not gonna do it. So he knows it's foolproof. You're a smart man. Yeah. You might as well just agree and then just not do anything.

Avital Ash

It's like the, okay, you can get a dog if you take care of it. And you're like, but I won't.

Nick Weiger

Can we talk about your recent nuptials? Because it's the. We're recording on your 6th month anniversary. Neither of us had any idea until I was like, oh yeah, I started a job the day after I got. Married, which is the six months wild timing.

Avital Ash

And then, yeah, then it was like, oh, I guess today is six months. Congrats. I'm flying. Happy half anniversary, right? You know, it doesn't feel like this sounds bad.

It doesn't feel like an achievement. It's like we got together and then we just sort of kept doing that. Is that something to be applauded? Am I to be lauded for just, like, sticking around? We're all alive.

Congrats to all of us on whatever part in our journey. You know, in this day and age of swiping left and right, I think it is an accomplishment wise. The. Well said, mitchell. Thank you.

Yeah, I'm still swiping left and right.

Nick Weiger

Here's my question for you. Given the purview of this podcast, what did you do for wedding food? Oh, our food was so good and what everybody says is true, which is that we didn't have a chance to eat it. We were so busy. But we had put away some of it and we had pizza, which was really good.

Love that. It was maybe the best pizza I've ever had. Wow. And it was in LA this year. It's like a brazilian chef.

Mike Mitchell

Oh, wow. He doesn't have a brick and mortar, but other people have said it, too. People are like, I can't. Something about that pizza or there was like a pasta dish that I didn't try and a fish thing that I like. We didn't.

Avital Ash

We hardly tried any of it. Wow. And then cakes from Susie cakes, which are great. Oh, there you go. Oh, wow.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, the food was really good. We really were talking about good and bad wedding meals we've had over the years. Just recently.

Nick Weiger

Yes, for sure. Yeah. You run into some of those like, chaos meals where it's like. Or just things where it's like, you know, I feel like my expectations are as anyone's are usually pretty low. I'm just like, I'm gonna get like, whatever, like cafeteria food and it's fine.

I'll get something to fill me up. Sometimes you have like, something that's like great, like Cal Poly and Jess Jardin's wedding was unbelievable. Lowry. Because Lowry's the prime rib. Decatur.

Avital Ash

Oh, wow. Yeah. So that was really something. But then other times, and then I've also been to weddings where they've tried the thing like that. They've tried like, hey, we got pizza.

Nick Weiger

You know, we've got something kind of fun. But then it's like, oh, we got hot dogs. But like, wait, these are bad, shitty hot dogs. We are very lucky because we didn't end up trying the food before, partially because of the chaos of. I was out of the country for a month and a half, and then, like.

Avital Ash

But it was so good. But I feel like it was still an ordeal where Amir's mom was like, you can't serve pizza at a wedding. Like, it was too. I don't know. Poor.

Yeah. Yeah. And there were other things, I feel like, worth mentioning. You know, salad and fish and whatever. Pasta.

Not just pizza. We were talking soup before Mitch got here. Oh, yeah. Let's. Let's, uh.

Nick Weiger

I want to get your soup thoughts. But then I also want to hear about your specific advocacy for a blended soup. I feel like it's self explanatory. Does not everybody want a blended soup? Okay.

Avital Ash

I do. I don't even know what the hell. I don't even know what the hell you just said. I don't even know what the hell you just said. He's a lager, Avi.

Nick Weiger

Joe was talking about soup before he got here, and there was a moment where you're like, I want a good blended soup. And I don't feel like I can find a great blended soup. Blended soup. See, you know, the idea. The idea.

So that's got more of a puree. Like, puree? Yeah, a puree. Okay. Like, a split pea soup or, like, a pea soup is usually that I.

Avital Ash

Can find, but that's not what I want so much. Okay. I want, like, we were talking about at this corner bakery. Yes. I got a broccoli cheddar soup.

And that is a stretch to call it that. Oh, you spilled. It was. It was. It was fondue.

It was a liquid cheese that I'm expected to drink. There were the tiniest bits of broccoli in there. I had, like, one bite and was like, I can't. I threw it away. Sure.

There's no, like, I want, like, a broccoli puree or even if you get, like, a tomato soup here. A bisque. Yes. Right, right. It's usually full of, like, sugars, even though tomatoes are so sweet.

It's just like, you can't find vegetables in a soup. And in the UK, this sounds like a weird sponsored. But these covent garden soups, I got, like, ten of them for probably, like, ten pounds, and each one was, like, two meals. And the bread there doesn't hurt my stomach like it does here. And I was just so happy.

And everybody talks shit about the food in the UK, but there's, I think, like, next to no factory farms, a lot stricter rules around, like, antibiotics and pumping your food full of bad shit. Yeah. This is my soup. Advocacy, does this answer your question or just a weird. Very much.

Nick Weiger

It's great. I love it. I went to London when I was a boy. What are you now? A man?

Mike Mitchell

Of course. Let's see those pubes.

He keeps asking. I'm not going to show him. Well, how many times does he have to ask? What? If you show the pubes, then you consent to Edinburgh, and this is compromise.

Nick Weiger

I don't need to see what's under there. I've changed a baby.

Mike Mitchell

Okay, well, let me tell you, that baby's got a few more pubes than a normal baby. Just a few.

Wait, what were we talking about? Pubes. It's hard to go back. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Avital Ash

Pube soup. When you were a boy. Oh, I went to London when I was a boy. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

Just for vacation. I wasn't. I didn't attend Hogwarts or anything like that. Wow. Really, Mitch?

Nick Weiger

You didn't attend Hogwarts? Despite being a wizard?

Mike Mitchell

I didn't attend Hogwarts.

We gotta get JK Rowling on the pod, right? A piece of shit. I never liked the Harry Potter books, ever. And I'm kind of proud that I never did, because then she turned out to be kind of a hay fan. I never liked the books, but I love her.

The best stance you can have. But I went over there, I think, when I was in third grade, and my sister got mono. It was like a big family trip. Oh, no. My sister got mono, and then my mom had to stay.

My dad and I went with my godparents family. But the thing then was, like, the food in London is bad. That's what everybody says. That's what everyone says. But I'm like, there's so many celebrity chefs that come out of London, or just England.

What happened? Your can dinged? Yeah, my can dinged. I don't know if it was picked. Up by the mic.

Avital Ash

Your water glass is on the edge of the coaster. It's about to fall. Thank you. It's like a final. It's like final destination over there.

Yeah. I feel like I've forced you over there, because I've taken all of this. No, this is my normal spot. It's just always chaos and it's like. Above, like a plug in, like a power strip.

The most dangerous place. Yeah, it is. It's final destinationy. I spilled last night. Did you?

Nick Weiger

Yeah, I spilled a glass of wine all over my manga. What's a manga? That was a great. It's like a comic. Oh.

Avital Ash

Oh. Oh, Jesus. You just said it properly. Only hear people say it badly. It took me too long.

So was that a nice bonding experience with your dad?

Mike Mitchell

I was wondering, did Natalie come in? Cause you heard crying.

Nick Weiger

One piece is ruined. I can't see Luffy. She's like, I put his fucking wine in a sippy cup and it's still happening. That's actually a good idea if you're accident prone and I am. Yeah.

Avital Ash

A spinny cup. No, is that. We got sent. We got sent a thing that was. I mean, we talked about this.

Nick Weiger

We did get sent a spill proof cup. You guys went to spill proof company spilled it. We had it on a table and we were throwing stuff at it to see if we could knock it over. And we did it. We were like, okay, it's safe.

Avital Ash

And then we immediately spilled it. He spilled it somehow. It's like impossible to do. You have to like it once it is down. It's like, it won't.

Mike Mitchell

You have to, like, then pick it up straight. And he picked it up straight and then dropped it.

A fool anyways. That it? To me, it seems. I remember I did get McDonald's over there. I got a cool dragon toy too, because I got a happy meal.

But, like, we got pizza a few times, but I didn't remember anything. But I was also, what, eight years old or something that stood out. Yeah, third grade. Yeah. That's a good memory for eight.

There was like some stuff I remember well, I also. I remember I never felt jet lag like that before, which, when I went for hidden America, I went back to London for. That was the first time I've been back to the. To the UK maybe, or this was Jonah Ray's show. What was that on?

Nick Weiger

So Cecil on Ciso. Yeah, the old Ciso, which doesn't exist anymore. But I went to Ireland when my dad was sick. That's. That's the next time I went to.

Avital Ash

With him. With my dad. Yeah. Not with Jonah Ray. My dad was sick.

Mike Mitchell

I'm gonna go with Jonah over to Ireland, but hope you're still here when I get back.

That is. I mean, he was like, healthy when we went. It was a nice. It was like a healthy nice trip. That's great.

But I didn't go to London. And then. Did you like Ireland? I loved Ireland. And the food was good.

I didn't have a problem with the food. The black bread is great. Yes. And a toasties, which people didn't know, I said. And then I think even irish people are like, what the fuck is he talking about?

Avital Ash

Yeah, I'm not sure, but a toasties. Are like, like toasted sandwiches that were great, that a lot of places were offering toasties. Anyways, when I went back to London, I had good food, and I'm like, it's got to be just a thing that there's so many celebrity chefs there. It's true. It's just, I feel like it can't be a true thing, that London food.

Nick Weiger

So I think it's probably british food historically, is not, like, great cuisine, not a great type of food, but there is a lot of great food in the UK, right? Sure. For a variety of reasons. I think the stereotype is that it's bland, but I wonder how much of that is. All of the things that are illegal to put in foods there that you put in here.

Avital Ash

Like, my friend, I love chocolate, and, you know, well, I won't spoil what we have. I love desserts, like pastry desserts, but I don't want, like, skittles or, like, gushers or like, just the, like, gummy candies. But my friend, that also did kind of like those. A lot of people do. A lot of people do.

Nick Weiger

They're better halfway with you is what I've heard. That is better here. That would make sense because they're just full of sugar and. Right, right. All the additives, my friend, that got them there was like, these are bad.

Avital Ash

I'm trying. What they're in London, in. This was in Edinburgh. Somebody who's doing ruptures. You want some rupches?

Mike Mitchell

Tastes like shit. I don't want that bullshit. I want the corn syrup. Or are you just making. No, I was just saying, like, gushers.

The UK version of gushers. I don't know why that seems so much more, like, grotesque to me. A rupture. You bite into it. It's like an anal rupture.

Avital Ash

Why? Dear God.

Bear with me. Yes, I'm halfway with you. The Skittles, Starburst, that kind of shit I like. But as far as gummy, I've always said gummy ain't yummy, and that gets me in a lot of trouble on the podcast. But I'm not a gummy guy.

It was Starburst. I couldn't remember, but you got it so fast. Wow. It was a Starburst here versus there. Wow.

And I was like, all right, I'll try one. And it tasted good to me, but I'm not addicted to the US Starburst. Right. I like a good pink Starburst every so often. Yeah.

Nick Weiger

What's the best? That also sounds like a gross euphemism.

Mike Mitchell

Seem like a Fred Durst line. I did it all for. Give me that pink Starburst.

I used to love Starburst. One of my favorite. I loved mambas. And then I moved on to. I mean, like, mambas, I feel like, were kind of went away.

Mambas were great. They still are made to this day. But then I think Starburst took over in a lot of convenience stores. But I'm a pink Starburst. Skywalks.

Nick Weiger

Yeah. I was trying to think of what my color was. I got idea in this order. Yellow, orange. I like red, except as I get older, red.

Mike Mitchell

I don't. Red, I maybe move down. Red's a little artificially for a tart. Yeah. How much do you like the pink?

Avital Ash

Do you ever do two of the pink? I love one of the stinks.

Mike Mitchell

I'll do two of the pink starbursts, then one brown starburst. Afterwards.

Nick Weiger

Just shit out a cube. Two pinks make one stink. Oh, that's funnier to shit out a little cube. I was saying there was like a weird brown. No, no.

Avital Ash

This is what the room is for. Exactly.

But I think the food there is good hot take, which I feel like makes my review of today everything I say is untrustworthy now. Kind of like we talked about letterbox last time, where you were like, yours are like, mine, which is bad. I feel like that's what I'm setting us up for by being like, I love UK food. We were like, great. Let's dismiss anything.

Mike Mitchell

Yes, we had. I liked some, but then I'd seen some that look, no one's gonna agree on everything. 100%. Civil war. I really liked civil war.

Avital Ash

I did, too. And I was expecting to really look at us. I thought it was so good. Casey was so good, too. Casey.

Nick Weiger

Civil war. We won't see it sometime this week. No. No spoilers. Emma.

Emma. You didn't see that, I assume. I thought I was gonna be disappointed. And I really liked it a lot. I loved it.

Avital Ash

Now I wanna see it again. Yeah. Dunst. Dunst. Great.

Clemens. Great love. Come on. Clemens is good. Scary.

Scary. Steve something. McKinley. Steven McKinley something. Oh, God.

Nick Weiger

I was convinced I was gonna get this name into my brain and I forgot it already. I think Stephen McKinley Henderson. He's also the mentat from Dune. Yeah, he's good. Yeah, he's great.

Avital Ash

It was also. I don't know if anybody watched Devs, but it's like that entire cast is in this movie. I gotta look up the name. Cuz I'm like, who is. Who is Thoofer?

Nick Weiger

How? What is it? Is it him again? You just said it. What do you say?

No, but I want to make sure I got the. Get the middle name right. And I don't know if it's Henderson or. Second. Didn't he?

Avital Ash

It's Stephen McKinley Henderson. I would bet ten whole dollars. Did anyone hear him? No. What?

Nick Weiger

It is Stephen McKinley Henderson. See, I knew you got it right. That guy's cool. I would have been like, close. So good and everything.

Avital Ash

You have to trust me more. I do trust you. I didn't trust myself, but I knew you were right. I saw in yourself what you couldn't see. I'm not used to other people being confident in me is the issue.

Nick Weiger

What are you doing? Say it like this. Say it like Sandler. Stephen McKinley Henderson. Yeah.

Stephen McKenley Henderson plays two for Hawat in Dune park. Scenes were filmed, but cut for part two. Oh, you sound like. You sound like a guy in a haunted house.

Mike Mitchell

A priest in a haunted house. I didn't look this up. And so I'm just repeating somebody else's impression of it. But I feel you might enjoy it. Somebody was saying that the whole cast was being interviewed about civil war.

Avital Ash

And then he came up and everybody was like, oh, my God, he's the best. And they were all talking about how wonderful he is. And then Alex Garland's like, they cut his scenes in Dune two. Those motherfuckers. And like, that's where the interview ends.

Mike Mitchell

That's really funny. Yeah, that's really good, man. It's. It's. I do want to see those scenes.

Avital Ash

Yeah. I don't know. It's a case because we got far much. I'll pass on this thing. Extra, extra.

Mike Mitchell

Dune two footage. You don't need it. You got enough Dune two in Dune, too. Cracked Messiah. He's got a whole art.

Nick Weiger

Oh, messiah, you're already there. Oh, no, I haven't read. I was gonna just go straight into Messiah. Oh, got it, got it. I know the Dune story now so well in the back half, I wanna see what happens next in the back half of Dune, the book, and it's been years since I've read it, but it is like he has this character, thufir hawat, however you pronounce it is the mentat ends up working with the Harkonnens.

So, like, there's a whole thing going on there, but it's like, kind of like, you know, intrigue, double agent sort of stuff. Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah. Cause the other mentat gets killed when, you know, Duke Leto Atreides has the poisoned tooth. Oh, right.

Yes. I'm so glad I watched both of them, like, two weeks ago, or I would not know anything. I immediately don't feel bad about anything I've said that's been a dud on the podcast after the last 30 seconds. Not only did I ever, maybe, yeah. If I hadn't seen it, I would have gone like, that's probably interesting, but I know better.

Mike Mitchell

We've both seen it, and it was something you said, something there. Oh, man.

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Mike Mitchell

Wise. So we were talking about writers rooms earlier. That's right. We were talking about the writers room in 1860 or whatever. When was the Gettysburg address?

18 something? Yeah, mid 1860s. But this place that we went to today was, for me, was a very early when I worked at the Simpsons. I didn't know you worked on the Simpsons. Did you not?

Avital Ash

Maybe. I feel like maybe last time I was on, I said the same thing and just short memory, but I. People like, make fun because I brought it up so many times on the pod. But I worked there for from the writers strike. The 2007 writers strike is right around then.

Mike Mitchell

Is when I started. And then the Simpsons movie came out right around then, too. And then for, like, you were home or stand in. Yes. It was a live action, and then they animated it.

Avital Ash

Why are you so mean to him? I'm sorry. Yeah. What the. Sorry.

Thanks. I feel bad now. Do you appreciate his apology? Yes. You're apology accepted.

Nick Weiger

Should we go get a sweet treat? Sure. I think we could go down some starburst, some sweet pink starbursts and maybe a chocolate frosty milkshake. Yeah. Season one, Homer.

Mike Mitchell

Two in the pink, one in the sting. It's perfect. Oh, he's talking about Marge there. That's horrible. Dude, I don't want to think about it.

Dude, I don't want to think about that with Homer. Tom. Marge. Fucking sick. And so you did CPK there all the time.

Avital Ash

Is that what you were? So that was like. It was one of the go to spots when I was there and it was like, oh yeah, California pizza kitchen. So 2007, I had. I had had it.

Mike Mitchell

There was actually one in the transportation building which my dad worked in, in Boston, which then now is an Emerson building. Emerson bought it, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Emerson owns it now. Yeah.

Avital Ash

It was still at the transportation building when I went there though. Yes. And the CPK was there, right? Or no, it's not there now. It wasn't there when I lived there.

It was on. No, it was on the corner. Oh, no, that was the panera. I think it was in there. I think you're right.

Mike Mitchell

There was one that went in there at one point and then there was the. The other. The chinese restaurant that we go to a lot. Chinese food restaurant that definitely wasn't there. When I was there.

You know what I'm talking about? The one in. We've chain. A chain. PF Changs.

PF Changs. Oh, yeah, that is still there. I got food poisoning there. Oh, man. I deleted it from my memory.

PF changs and CPK, like moved more like BM changs. Yeah.

Those moved into the transportation building when my dad was working there. And probably like whatever. The late, early, late nineties, early two thousands. Yeah. And I remember having California pizza kitchen and like, I was so excited.

I loved pizzas. My favorite food. And having California pizza kitchen. And maybe actually, honestly, the first. My first experience with it was the frozen food because they pretty quickly had it.

I mean, they've been around forever. Is also the other thing. I think that's more your east coast experience because I'm from out here and I remember when California pizza kitchen was like a cool, like, restaurant you would go to. It's. I'll get the facts out real quick.

Nick Weiger

But it's founded in 1985 in Beverly Hills by two retired federal prosecutors, Rick Rosenfeld and Larry Flax. Hell yeah.

Locking up the bad guys. Yeah, they got OJ, right.

The restaurant invented barbecue chicken pizza and they now have just under 200 restaurants in eleven countries, plus frozen pizzas and salad dressings. I like scourge. Scourge? Yeah, I like barbecue chicken pizza. How do you feel?

Avital Ash

You know, I also never really want it, so I don't know if I like it. I get like, I think I've like tried a bite. I think same thing. Just too sweet. Yeah, it feels like muddied.

The same way. I don't love mint chocolate chip. I'm like, I'll use toothpaste and I'll have chocolate, but I don't want them together. Mint chocolate chip I like as an ice cream cone, but I. On an ice cream cone, but I.

Not in a cup. I'll do it in a cup sometimes. I don't. It's not my go to anymore. I just want more hardline chocolate.

Mike Mitchell

I went right to the source. Yeah, yeah, I'm a vanilla guy. Yeah, vanilla's a flavor and yeah, it was. Oh, you're talking about ice cream. Yeah, we all went to the same.

We know you're boring. It's an exotic bean. I know it's an exotic bean. There is such a difference between vanilla and vanilla bean. I don't know why anything is flavored like vanilla when the option of vanilla bean is there.

Avital Ash

Even though all vanilla is should be vanilla bean, but it's not. Do you know what I'm talking about? I know exactly what you mean. I think it's cause it's cheaper to just do it with a vanilla extract. Can you name one other exotic bean?

Nick Weiger

I sure can. There you go. That's a good one.

Mike Mitchell

Fuck. So is there another jelly? Jelly bean? Pretty good. I remember that works.

Nick Weiger

I remember going to California pizza kitchen when it was still like, kind of like, oh, this place is interesting. Oh, you get like a personal pizza and it's like. But it's like a thai chicken pizza. You know, it was like, it felt like it had this gimmick that hadn't yet turned into something that's in the frozen food aisle and also hadn't yet been imitated by everyone because this was a place that like, you know, Spago, which was Wolfgang Puck's restaurant. They were, they started doing kind of these exotic pizzas, CBK when they found they poached the Spago pizza chef and they're like, you're going to work for us now.

And then that's when they come up with the barbecue chicken pizza and all their other creations. Do you think their price point was higher then too. I'm sure it was. Yeah, but. But I mean, I'm sure it was more of a cause.

Also, the other thing I remember Mitch, and I don't know if this syncs with your experience, but they didn't used to have cheese pizza. They didn't used to have pepperoni pizza. You're leading right back into what I was talking about. So I went there. I think barbecue chicken pizza is scourge, which sounds a lot like Scrooge.

Mike Mitchell

Is that what they named Scrooge? It does a little bit. It could be, yeah. And it's old. An old crone is like being mean.

It's like an old lady. Yeah, sure. Is that what's so crony? Is that the same sort of. There was some sort of.

Avital Ash

My mind went to the same place, but I would think not. Yeah, I guess it seems like Crone and Crony are different, but they are so similar sounding. How about you, doctor dictionary? I don't know. Ideas.

Nick Weiger

It could have. It could have similar origins. Could have the same, like, you know, root word. But I don't know. Have you thought about expanding your duo into including an etymology expert who is here at all times?

Mike Mitchell

I mean, that's so funny. If he was on this chair with me. Jeff. Love that. Love that.

Nick Weiger

Stinky. In here for the dose score. Stinky will clear this up for us. Stinky is a linguist who is one of our fans. Oh, cool.

Mike Mitchell

He goes by stinky. He goes by stinky. Our dose cord has like a PhD or whatever. Yeah. Calls himself Stinky.

Avital Ash

Looking forward to Stinky's thoughts on the matter. We all want to hear more from stinky. I went in there, I think I tried the barbecued chicken pizza and was like, oh, I don't really love this. Now as an adult, I think that I probably would enjoy it. I didn't get it today and I haven't had it in a long time.

Mike Mitchell

But it's not. Barbecued chicken pizza is not my favorite. I went to my favorite pizza place this last weekend. Where's that? Quarter sheets.

One of my favorite restaurants in LA. I love it. It's the best. And they did a barbecue chicken pizza. And they'll do like corn, like big corner slices of pizzas.

And it was great because it's like, you know, it's like the best ingredients and everything like that. But unless it is like the best version of barbecue pizza, chicken pizza, I don't think I'm gonna. Even then that's probably not your. What you want from it. It's not my go to.

No, it wasn't my favorite slice. Yeah, of course. Like, I like, I like a classic, you know, cheese slice which you couldn't really get. They didn't used to have. Yeah, they did.

Nick Weiger

They didn't. And they ultimately, as they, as they grew and they were like, you know what? So many people are like, ordering off menu. Let's just fucking cave and do it. They did.

Mike Mitchell

I remember they did like a buffalo chicken pizza at one point, I think I remember CPK having decent frozen pizzas. Like, and maybe frozen other, like their, like their. Yeah, I never really fuck with their frozen pizzas, but I've heard they're okay. Their frozen stuff, I feel like was okay. But that was like my, I think that was maybe my introduction to it, but after that I was like, the CPK suck.

And I kinda had that viewpoint for a while. And then when I came out here, I had it a couple times. Yeah. And then at the Simpsons, I started to get it quite a bit. Like, you know, like every couple weeks they, they would order and it would felt very much at that time.

One, like a writers room, place to go. Like, it felt like the writers were getting it all the time. And two, like, it was on its way out. Well, not on its way out, but its popularity had definitely, like, I would go to pick up, pick up orders and it would be like a few people in the dining room and they were kind of older people. You think that God punished them for caving because they had these morals of like, these are the pizzas we make.

Avital Ash

And then there was pressure. Yeah. And they gave in and then it was like, this is what you pizza. Gods, maybe it's a possibility. The italian pizza gods, maybe, you know.

This is a lesson for everyone. Yeah. Don't cave. It was still, we still, I mean, then I still, it was, like, always expensive when I would go. And I know it still is.

Nick Weiger

I mean, I think it still is kind of expensive. It's all these sit down chains are like, that's the whole thing you end up spending. I didn't see what the receipt was today, but you could very easily spend $30 on a lunch. $30. And that's like a lot for when you could go get fast food instead or go to, like, a local place that's gonna be a higher quality fare.

Mike Mitchell

This, this is, this is my thought. Is that like. Yeah, one, it's going to a fast, like a chain restaurant that you sit down at and it's like, no, people don't do it as much anymore. CPK is a hard one to even, like, fine. There's one, I think, at, like, the Hollywood and Highland mall area and then maybe even gone.

And there was. Because Melee got one from downtown today. She picked it up from downtown, and there was one on the, I think, still on Beverly was where. The one I used to go for. The Simpsons.

Yeah, but it's hard to get to. No one's gonna go there that often. Well, you're. But you're also. You're talking about LA in general, because, like, that's a.

Nick Weiger

That's a big LA problem. You can't find a chili's in LA. Like, we're like. It's just a lot of these. These chain restaurants that have a sit down space, that have a bigger footprint.

CBK is actually something of an exception because they started in Beverly Hills. So there's still the one in Beverly Hills, I think there's still the one in Westwood. There's still one in Culver. You know. But in general, like, I think across the country, if you live in the suburbs, you can find a CPK.

I think they're pretty. You think so? I think a lot of people besides the transportation building, but sure, maybe. But I feel like. I don't know.

Mike Mitchell

It feels. And also, when you have your, like, what are the chain restaurants you love that it's on? Beverly Grill is one of them. Oh, yeah. South Beverly Grill.

Nick Weiger

Yeah. Part of the Hillstone family. Hillstone family is like, if you're gonna go and sit down for a lunch, that's like, a fancy lunch. You're gonna go to a hillstone or something. Well, that's the other thing.

Cause, like, that's. These places have kind of taken the place of, like, this is the higher end. Like, nice meal out that something like a CPK or a spago used to do in their heyday. And, you know, again, now these are frozen meals you can get at the grocery store. But I wanna go back to our guest avital, because this was your first experience at CPK.

Avital Ash

I've been. You have been okay. Because as you were talking, I'm like, oh, right. I think the thing is more that it's like, maybe. At least this is one very specific experience of it.

But, like, the kind of thing we would do with Amir's parents, because it's nice enough, you can go and sit down. But also, there's a huge menu for people that are difficult to please, for sure. Kind of like cheesecake factory or something. There's just, like, a lot of options and I can't remember what I had. It was unremarkable enough that I.

So I've, like, had. I think he's, like, brought home leftovers once before, and I maybe had a bite of pizza there. Amir was saying that he's a big CPK fan. Yeah, I think the ones in the valley are going strong still. Yeah, I still have a lot of.

Nick Weiger

I'm still pretty partial to CPK. Cause I had it when I was younger, and I think it's still going pretty well. I mean, it's not like everything is firing in all. All cylinders, but I think they kind of stuck to what they do. They did expand their menu, but it's not, like, completely sprawling, and it's not doing a bunch of things that are completely outside of the pizza, pasta salad sort of domain.

And I think they have a few signature dishes, like the barbecue chicken pizza, which I happen to like and which I got on a visit when I went and got a lunch duo this past week. But also, like, their chicken tequila fettuccine is, like. That's, like, a good, solid dish. That is, like, a signature thing that I think they execute well. You know, they got a few things like that.

And again, it's like chili's baby back ribs. You just need a few of those. I had a good experience today. I had a great experience today. Yeah, I did, too.

Avital Ash

I was very happy. It did exactly what I wanted it to. Let me back it up in a second and talk about my solo mission. And I went to a location. I dined in for lunch, and I got the lunch duo, which you get two items of a pizza, pasta, soup, salad, or sandwich.

Nick Weiger

I went with the original. I did a barbecue combo. Mitchell. Barbecue chicken pizza and the barbecue chicken chop salad. Wow.

Both of which were hidden. I added avocado to the barbecue chicken chop salad. I got a very small portion of bread with olive oil. Who is selecting this bread? Unkar plut.

Yeah. Who's back in the kitchen back there? Unkar plut. Unkar plutz back there saying, like, oh, what's this guy wants the lunch duo? Let me give bread.

Let me give his bread. One quarter portion. We're like, is that what's going on in the kitchen? Unkar Unkar? We know you did the movie.

Mike Mitchell

We know that's, like, your line, but, like, cut it out. Like, knock it off. You just have to do this. Yeah. Kind of annoying everyone who works here.

You know what's so embarrassing? I see Unkar at auditions all the time now. It's. Yeah, you guys are going in for the same parts I get. Yeah, I understand.

Nick Weiger

Feeling self conscious about that. I heard that Unkar was like, I made. I make more at CPK than I did off the JJ Star wars. That's how much they screwed him on the contract. He told me that.

Isn't that crazy? Yeah, he was like a day player. Like, sag minimum. I think they were like, we want to bring you back to do the line for the video game. And he was like, honestly, I lose money by calling out on my shift for CPK to go record this line.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, I know. And so they got a sound alike. Yeah. It's sad that he's using real life examples. Just so you know.

It's kind of true.

I was with him. We were doing an audition on the side. Said an unkar plut type. And he was like, what the fuck, man? You could just get me.

You can just get me. I mean, I know that sucks, dude. They cut, like, you know, the cast. Paul Walter Hauser. Yeah.

Nick Weiger

Getting all these roles, getting all these plug. I mean, we can just be open about now. Uncar went out for the Chris Farley biopic. It was gonna be unkar. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

It was Paul Walter Hauser instead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Still directing Gaddis. But I heard that Q Bert was up for it, too, so I feel like there's a weird. Cause.

They were, like, together, family dynamic. Yeah, that's a weird thing. Yeah, I think. Did they split? Is that what it was?

Nick Weiger

I think that is what it was. It was gonna be, like, split up. Gad and Q Bert were married at one point. I don't know if you knew. No, no, I don't.

Avital Ash

I heard Kubrick, and I was like, I don't think that's what you said. Gad versus Stanley Kubrick. Oh, my God. That's the hardest choice. Whose filmography do I pick?

Mike Mitchell

I mean, I haven't seen this Farley biopiclet yet, but I can just assume it will be as good as any Kubrick movie.

Avital Ash

I didn't even know they were doing one. I'm out of touch. The Farley biopic. Yeah, yeah, we'll see if it happens. Yeah.

Nick Weiger

All that said, a good point. It might never. It might never happen. I also got it. Who are you waving at?

Mike Mitchell

Wave. Jake Johnson. I'm going to knock it away. Okay. Big moves happening outside the window.

Avital Ash

I see your level of enthusiastic. Because I turned to see and I missed how enthusiastic the wave was. I gave a very friendly Hollywood wave. Right. Hey, new girl.

Mike Mitchell

Reboot Vaniza. What's your name, hubby? Timmy next door I'll be. Sign me up, baby. See plug at the audition.

Nick Weiger

Fuck. What's the non hollywood wave? Oh, that's cool. That should be your hollywood wave. Yeah, I agree.

Mike Mitchell

Get out of here. People want someone a little out of reach, a little cold. Yeah. You should be timing people for the hollywood wave, homes. Okay, there he goes.

I gotta stop making fun. We might have to edit that out. This lunch, like seven times the lunch duo was hitting. Yeah. And it was a good value.

Nick Weiger

I think it was like $12.99. It was like an extra dollar 50. Cause I added avocado to the salad. But I was like, this is fucking great. And it was a great amount of food for like, you know, one man eating by himself.

There were a number of solo diners there. So I was like, oh, a lot of people are coming here on their, you, own know, for, on their lunch break from work. And because it's just like a good value in the neighborhood. I got an iced tea, lemonade, I the, you know, some people call it arnold palmer. I called the nick weiger.

I got a nick weiger. And it was, that was hitting too. And I didn't end up spending like, I think I spent less than $20. It was like, I was like, this is, I was very content with it. And I think the lunch duo, you can only get in store.

I don't think you can get it to go. But it was a thing where it's like, man, this is, oh, no, you. Can get it to go. Oh, you can get, Amelia got it to go today. Oh, well, there you go.

Avital Ash

Or I think it was a little bit more maybe to go. It was, it says 12.99. Hey, look at that. Yeah, so, yeah, I was like, this is, this is a tremendous value and this is a very scrumptious meal. That brings us to what we're getting today.

Nick Weiger

So what do you think? Live in a van down by the river or one quarter portion? What do you think is a bigger line of the two? I think more people have heard by this .14 portion. Oh my God.

Mike Mitchell

Really? Yeah, just numerically, I think. Yeah. How many people watch that movie compared to that one SNL sketch? That one SNL sketch.

You think more people know one quarter portion than live in a van down? I only live in a van down by the river. You don't know it? I only know that, oh, I'm also, I wonder if anybody else. I didn't know fast car.

Avital Ash

I only knew the other. They give me one reason I stay. Oh, wow. Fast car. Only heard recently.

Well, I don't know. Fast cars a great. She's a great song. But I thought she was famous just for that other song. Why can't I remember what it's called?

Maybe. Oh, give me one reason. Right? Oh, okay. Yeah, I think it is probably what the title is.

Yeah. Tracy Chapman. Tracy Chapman. Tracy Chapman. I did a spoof.

Mike Mitchell

My song, you got a fast sleigh. I did. For Santa Claus. That's good. It was good.

I'm a fan. My dating profile at one point had that song as the background. Fast car. Yeah. Yeah.

There's a lot of covers on that. One, but it's kind of a downer. Yeah, I know, but the song can be moody. The song's about, like, picking the. Like, being with the wrong person and just, like, the way life goes.

All right. Yeah. Anyway. Subconsciously pushing them away. But maybe that's what you wanted all along.

Maybe that is what I wanted all along. You're moody and you just want to be by yourself. Today we got a bunch of stuff. I will run through what I had on my order, and then everyone else can fill in the blanks, but dynamite shrimp, which is a sweet and spicy sriracha sauce, you know, a bit of a heat seeker type of super scallions and toasted sesame seeds. All right, well, I have it on my list of items why I ordered it.

You can't steal my item. Fine. Mitch can say what he got. Got the dynamite shrimp. Whoa.

Avital Ash

You got that? I thought Weyger got it. No, it was me. I was going to order it, and then he actually 86 his southwest egg rolls. Yeah, they had the avocado egg rolls.

Nick Weiger

I did not realize. Had bacon in it. And I don't eat. I'm not eating pork, so, like. And speaking of which, I.

Mike Mitchell

And they said, I'll just get onto Mitch's dynamite shrimp, which was open for everyone. Anyway, those were good. They were. That was a great order. The California cob.

Avital Ash

Is that what you're looking for? Yeah. Good job. You did such a good job ordering it. Well, you also got those buffalo chicken bites.

Nick Weiger

Those are good. That's true. They were. So here's the thing, is that I was looking at the CPK calories, and it's scary to look at them. They're.

Oh, for sure. They're so high. And we. I know that we were eating a lot of different. Jimmy being cute.

Mike Mitchell

I was so afraid that she was pissing. I thought you were whispering that she was pissing. And I felt down here. Did she pee? I can't tell.

There's possibility I may be pissed. I told you to wear a diaper. There was. I'm not gonna wear a diaper on the show. It'll be a good Patreon app.

Avital Ash

Why, like, you refuse to travel, you refuse to wear a diaper. It just seems like, why dig your heels in? So imagine if you were guessing here and it was like, what the fuck stinks? And I'm just like, I'm a stinky baby.

Well, I don't wanna interrupt the podcast.

Mike Mitchell

I wish that we had gotten those when you 86 them. I was sad. But also there was already too much stuff. Already too much. But the buffalo, they came in cauliflower bites.

Buffalo cauliflower bites. But those were more calories than the chicken bites. You end up getting the chicken instead. Yes, I want the chicken instead, which. Is a new item.

Nick Weiger

They had only the spicy buffalo cauliflower for a while, which I did think was good, but I think because this is not as breaded is the reason. It's less caloric. It's not breaded in butter, or it's not battered in buttermilk, but yeah, this is a sriracha buffalo sauce with ranchos. You know, a lot of this stuff is like, kind of like, this is the thing with a chain like this. A lot of this stuff is kind of like ten plus years behind culinary trends.

Like that cedar plank salmon, which you got. I felt like the cedar plank was like a thing, like, a while ago, but like, they're still doing it. Yeah, it was good, though. It was. You know what, I actually do.

You were very kind to share your salmon. Let us all have a bite of it. I had a nibble of it. I thought it was quite scrumptious. Yeah.

Avital Ash

You were underwhelmed or you were like, it's fine, it's good. Oh, I thought it was good. It's very much the healthy choice. But it was tasty. It was tasty.

Mike Mitchell

We were saying for a chain restaurant salmon, it was done pretty well. There's a big piece of wood in the box. It was surprising to be sent home with it. They gave you the plank. They gave you the plank.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is strange. Walk the plank for the old fish, you know. Boy, a grim fate. What was the.

Avital Ash

Are we going around? Yeah, please. That's funny. Cause like, if you think about it. Please.

Nick Weiger

Yeah, yeah. If you think about it, how crazy that is. Like, walk the plank is usually going into the ocean, but for the fish. They'Ve never taken a step in their lives. Yeah.

And then at the very end they have to walk the plank and be grilled. Yeah. Into your mouth. Yeah. Wow.

Avital Ash

This has gotten so sad. I have to say. The surprise bite for me that I really liked was that thing that you so kindly ordered and shared with everyone. The new spicy buffalo chicken bites. They were.

Yeah. That's pretty good order on my part. It was so good of you. And I think that might have been my favorite bite. They were yummy.

Nick Weiger

I actually prefer the dynamite shrimp, but I like them both. I thought they were both dynamite shrimp. Jimmy Walker worthy. Dino might. That's what I'm saying.

Mike Mitchell

Why you're referencing Jimmy Watt, remember, they stay tell you in the song. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. You're too young for that. I'm also too young for that. That's a reference to a sitcom from the 1970s.

But that's not true because we are. It is weird that we saw all reruns of shitty shows, but were you watching good times? That's what that was, a show, right? Good times. I watched everything on, like, nick at night and bullshit like that.

Nick Weiger

You never really saw a good time. I can't wait to see who the cast as Sandler and the Chris Farley. Biopic Paul Walker owser is going to get. He's going to. It's going to be.

Mike Mitchell

It's going to be like a clump. It's going to be a clump situation. They're going to. I was thinking maybe you earlier with your Steven McKenna Henderson. It's perfect.

Nick Weiger

I keep picturing. I don't know what good times is, but I keep picturing the movie good time. Oh, yeah. Softy brothers. But as like a nick at night.

Very different tone. Yeah, really different. Jimmy Walker said in that, in the, in the Hanukkah song, he references Jimmy Walker saying dynamite. Right? Is that what it is?

I think so. Okay. I think Gatt will explain it all. You think they're gonna go over this? All right.

They'll have him, like, in the, like, room trying to figure out, like, what happens next. Someone's like, come on, man. When you figure out this song, it's gonna be dynamite. Dynamite. So this is in the Chris Farley biopic.

Yeah. They'll have Stanley writing the Hanukkah song. They have to. There was something like that. I can't.

Avital Ash

It's bad when you try to have a sentence and you lose all the nouns. But there's like a movie I'm thinking of that was like, about one thing. Anyway, I had this Dakota smashed pea and barley. Fine. I did earlier say, no, I don't want pea soup.

And then I ordered the pea soup, and I'm saying it's fine. So that's obviously on me. The salmon was very good. The banh mi salad I really liked, and they did not skimp on the avocado. Wow.

Lots of avocado, big chunks of avocado. And then I really liked the key lime pie. That key lime pie was great. And that was so good. That was you.

Nick Weiger

You were very kind to share that as well. And so, yeah, I thought that was nice. I'm very sweet. It was. It was very sweet.

And so was the pie. Yes. I really enjoyed it. I feel like I should be an expert because I'm from Miami and, like, key west is so close, but I don't actually. I have no idea.

Avital Ash

I'm like, sure. I can't tell, like, a key lime. I went to Key west for scoops. Bachelor party. Wow.

Mike Mitchell

And it was a blast. And I did have some good key lime pie. Can you tell the difference between, like, a key lime pie here and there? I thought today's was fantastic. It was very sweet.

But it was. It was tart. I thought it was tart. It was well done. I thought it was.

They've always had a good key lime pie there. Cause I feel like that's been a staple at that restaurant for a while. Thanksgiving song. Is that where the dynamite thing is in? Yes.

I mean, no one cares in this room or listening, but that's where it comes from. Wow. Emma, I got the Cobb salad, which you did as well. And you were saying that when you used to work at night shifts in Boston, you would get CPK Cobb salad. How did you feel having it today?

Nick Weiger

Was it like biting into a memory? It was like biting into a memory. It was exactly as I remembered it. It feels like a salad, but it's also got that creamy blue cheese dressing, which feels like a creamy indulgence at the same time. Yeah, for sure.

I got the same salad, and I just got no bacon. But I do think it's a very solid salad. The issue was, this is the thing we maybe disagree here. Salad Ty Cobb would be proud of because it's a home run. Ty Cobb would be proud of the Cobb salad because it was a home run.

Mike Mitchell

I'm just saying. He would not be a fan of America today. No, because he was famously a bigot. But, yeah, he would be a fan of the salad. Yeah.

Well, you had to get into that stuff. I thought that was what people knew. I thought that was, like, the top line thing of Ty Cobb. He's just a piece of shit. He's an all time baseball player, but he was, like, a complete, like.

Avital Ash

Also not a fan of his baseball, but big fan of him and his politics. I looked up Jimmy Walker. It looks like he's got some bad opinions too. Look, everybody does. Everyone's got bad opinions.

Nick Weiger

I got em. Let's get low back on the show. Can we get low back on let us have a do over? You can't be mad at us for the people we get on the damn show.

Okay, so I think this is where you and I and Mitch maybe disagree. Is the shredded lettuce in the Cobb salad. Now, usually when we disagree, you're right. So that may just be the case here, but it's like, I just feel like it feels a little. I don't know, Mitch.

You weren't loving the texture of that shredded lettuce and your barbecue chicken salad. I'll tell you who would be proud of that lettuce. The Ninja Turtles arch nemesis, Shredder. Shredder? Yeah, you know, an unrepentant bigot, but no shredder.

Shredder, unfortunately. Some really bad politics. I hate these greenies. I can't believe you said that word on the potty. Even if you're greenies upstream.

If we're quoting him, Mitch, that's inappropriate. I am quoting him. I have no problem with greenies. I hate these g words.

Avital Ash

I'm gonna have to leave. If you say it one more time. I won't say it. And I don't stand with Shredder on. That sort of stuff.

Mike Mitchell

If you met my Quincy crew, we have quite a few greenies in the crew. Right? So. Stop it.

Nick Weiger

Didn't Changtan vote for Shredder?

Changton wrote in Shredder.

Mike Mitchell

Chainton did. But that was more of, like, a political stance, right? Yeah, it's like when I voted Georgia W. Bush.

Nick Weiger

You did. You were talking about the lettuce and the barbecue chicken sauce? Yeah. You know who would be proud of it?

Mike Mitchell

Not Krang, not leatherhead. Baxter Stockman. Not Stockman. Oh, wow. I don't know who it could possibly be.

Can you name any more Ninja Turtles villains? Probably, kid, if I search for brain, not a taco. What is it? Rose Bebop, token raison toca, and raise. Our bopp and rock and rock steady.

Only one guy. Bad turtle, right? Wasn't there. Isn't there one evil turtle? Fuck.

What's his name. There's also a robot. One is a robot. One is Spike. Is he the bad guy?

Nick Weiger

Might be Spike. That sounds right. I think there's also a, like a bad spike. And maybe in the gremlins one is Spike. Oh, that's.

Who are we? That's Spike. Yeah, but he's like, kind of like a good bad guy. Yeah, exactly. Turns good.

Yeah. Is he an angel? What the fuck are you talking about? Is he an angel? Not, is he an angel?

Avital Ash

Yeah, I think so. He is an angel. What is it? Buffy. There's a spike in buffy James Mars.

Sorry, my brain's been really bad, so that pull felt really good. I can tell you what the evil turtle's name was. Okay, great. You know what you're gonna say, Mitch. Pretty.

Mike Mitchell

You are on the right track. His name is slash. Oh, pretty good post to spike. Yeah, but that's not him either. Shredder would be the guy who would love the salad.

Avital Ash

It just seems so unrealistic that a turtle would be evil. Yeah, like notoriously nice turtles. Weiger's turtle ran away from his house. That's true. He ran away.

Nick Weiger

We had two turtles. A turtle ran away. Well, here's the thing. What did you do to that turtle? I didn't do anything to the turtle.

I loved the turtle. The turtle ran away. It was. And the turtle. Mitch, this is crazy.

That was named Shredder. This is absolutely true. Wow. Because we thought. We like.

I think my older brother, he likes Shredder's politics. I think my older brother Nate. Yeah, obviously. I mean, Nate. Nate is a.

Mike Mitchell

Nate's an alpha. And it's funny. It's funny to name a turtle shredder. So I think it was like. But he was like, he was fast and he ran the fuck away.

Nick Weiger

And Chip was there solo anyway. But I was. I was gonna say, I think. I think turtles kind of your amoral, like all of nature. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

I think I have an idea. I think. I think. I think Shredder saw what you did that apple at one time. Wait, did you see him run away or he just was gone?

Nick Weiger

He was just gone. Okay. I mean, I guess a bird could have taken him. Yeah. I like turtle soup the next night and be like, that's odd.

Mike Mitchell

What? What? I got. I hear what you're. I heard where you're going with that.

I heard what I said. Oh, I didn't. He fucked an apple once. I did. That was when I was much older.

Nick Weiger

The turtle ran away when I was prepubescent. That doesn't even seem pleasant. Like the apple pie thing makes sense, but a cold, hard apple. I read it in a book, kind. Of a prequel to american pie.

Avital Ash

Wow. Is this real? Yeah, I read it in a book. I read it in the Henry Miller book. Henry Miller's tropic of cancer.

Nick Weiger

I think he talks about it and I was like, I'll try this thing out. And it was underwhelming. It didn't really work, but I got the thing. I can't remember if I told the story before. I've told this part of it before.

The thing that was fun is I did like, it did explode at a certain point, which made me feel very powerful, you know? What did you guys hear like in high school? This was a thing. Maybe it's a real thing. People talk about it as adults too, but like that, if a man drinks pineapple juice, then like, his cum tastes good.

Yeah, yeah. But I bet if you fucking apple, then your dick tastes good. Probably pretty good. Why is it when you were doing it, did a worm poke us out and said, occupy?

Avital Ash

Would that be a menage trois? I think the worm is maybe into it. The worm got all hard and bigger. I bet the french word for worm sounds like menage. Like there's probably a pun there to be had that I can't find.

Mike Mitchell

Those frogs probably eat fucking worms. Easy, Mitch. What? So you had the barbecue chicken salad. What did you think of it?

Nick Weiger

We went on this long tangent. I enjoyed it. I think it was a salad. Sure we'd be proud of. I think that it was a tasty little number.

Avital Ash

You can't talk like that anymore. A tasty little number. You're not going to get away with that. It was a delicious salad. How's that?

Mike Mitchell

I'll conform. But there's a little piece of jicama in there. Nice. That's fun. A little bit of corn and the strips.

It works well. I wish I gave you a little bit more ranch, but I already was so stuffed anyways that once I ate the dressing off of the salad, I was kind of done. They gave me two little hot tubs of dressing for one half salad. I was swimmin in dressing. I had plenty.

That was up with the cob. It was the cob. They gave me barbecue and one ranch. But I think you can't have equal. Ratios of barbecue and ranch.

That's the whole thing. It needs to be like two to one. I like that way more than I like. I like a barbecue salad more than I. And especially at CPK, their barbecue salad more than I like the barbecue chicken pizza.

Nick Weiger

I probably two, too. I'd certainly get the salad more frequently than with the pizza. And speaking of pizzas, we should get into our sausages. That one pizza that I had, the slice of. The tostada pizza.

Avital Ash

Yes. Yeah. Tostada pizza. That was a. Oh, yeah.

Mike Mitchell

We didn't even talk about it. I liked it more than you guys did. I did like it. I liked it. You thought there was something missing.

I thought it needed chicken or something. It felt like it needed some sort of protein on it. Let me read the description of this. This is a crispy, thin crust that is. That has black bean as a base layer.

Nick Weiger

Black bean paste instead of a tomato sauce. Then it's got a queso and jack melted on top of that. That's how it arrives. And then there's a separate sidecar to go of lettuce, tortilla strips, scallions, ranch and tomato salsa. And then you kind of are just supposed to peter north all of these components on top of the tostada pizza.

And I actually was kind of fun to do. Like, it was kind of fun to, like, drizzle everything and kind of make the pizza pie, which I thought was gonna be a huge pain in the ass. You had to do a similar operation for your burrata pizza. Yeah, I forgot the name. Is it neapolitan Burrata?

I'll look it up. I'll bring it up in 1 second. There was. I almost got it. Burrata.

Mike Mitchell

What's it called? One of the tomato. Cherry tomatoes. I know. Tomato basil.

Basil, which is also easy. Burrata basil. Little things of olive oil, a little thing of olive oil, and a little thing of salt. And so you're supposed to put all. Which I did.

I put all the components on there. Yeah. I liked that pizza personally. That was good. I just sliced of each.

It's pretty basic. Yeah, CPK pizza is fine. It's fine. It's just not like it's different from regular pizza in a way. Right.

Like, it's not like a. Like you're saying you're not gonna go there and get a cheese pizza. No, no. There is like a four cheese blend pizza, I think. But, like, it's.

You're going there to get like, a little. And you know what? They're like close to individual size. You could. If you were hungry, you could probably eat a full one, maybe.

Nick Weiger

But they're meant to be individual pizzas. And I think very often, like, the thing is, it's like, oh, I'll order one. You'll order another one and we'll, like, split half. I think that's pretty common, but. Yeah, but the point of the CPK is not to, like, I'm gonna get a pizza to go, and we're gonna have a pizza party.

It's not that kind of pizza. It's like a different sort of. Again, it's like going to a chili's or going to a TGI Friday or going to red lobster. It's that sort of experience. And so you lose a little something in the to go meal.

But I still was pretty happy with everything overall. Yeah, yeah. You know what that tostada pizza reminded me of? This is maybe a long walk. That's not worth it.

Avital Ash

But do you ever crave, like, instead of, like, a good cookie or, like, a good cake, you want the grocery store cake where it's like, for sure not, you know, it's not better, but it just kind of tastes better. And that's what, like. And I feel about Taco Bell a lot of the time where people are like, well, there's a del taco, or like, you know, a better mexican place. I'm like, no, I want taco. I want this city.

That's what that pizza tasted like to me. It was like, oh, this is the right kind of bad. I'm into it. You're basically describing, like, the whole podcast. Cause that's all we're doing, is all going to these places where better food exists.

Nick Weiger

But sometimes you're craving exactly what this particular chain offers. Yes, for sure. Yeah, I didn't. I wasn't even. And maybe it's because.

Avital Ash

Same thing. When I do go to Taco Bell, I'm not doing any meat. I'm only doing, like, the vegetarian version. So I wasn't missing anything. I was like, this really hits a spot that I wasn't even expecting.

Mike Mitchell

I didn't think it was bad. I thought it was like, it was a pretty well done. Honestly, the drop off from when I was a Simpsons pa till now was not crazy. Can I ask, since you mentioned Taco Bell, we recently concluded our taco Bell tournament. Oh, wow.

Nick Weiger

Which was doquiero taco Bell. The beefy five layer burrito, which I imagine you don't eat, ended up winning. But Mitch and I are split on the spicy potato soft taco. Do you like that spicy potato soft taco? This is so embarrassing.

Avital Ash

But I got the thing that I loved, and then I just never. I think I once did, like, a burrito, and I was like, nope, back to the chalupa I just do the vegetarian chalupa with, like, what was baja sauce. But now is ranch. Spicy ranch. That's a good.

Nick Weiger

That's a great menu item, though. You get it with black beans? I do with the refried beans. Refried beans pro moon the spicy ranches on wise or. That's not actually, I think.

Mike Mitchell

But there is a ranch on the cheesy gordy to crunch. Yeah. Oh, it's good. But I probably would. I love potato, so I probably would like the potato taco.

Avital Ash

I just. Whenever I go, it's like, I want, and it's kind of like. Like what you were saying, emma, taking a bite of your childhood. It was like the thing that I would get drunk when I was, like, 15, my first, like, non kosher. But I would still do, like, the kosherest possible.

Like, still no meat. No, you know, but it just feels like, yeah, that's what I want. Wow. Are you a chalupa person? I do like the chalupa, but I think probably what's a better bread than a fried bread?

Nick Weiger

No, it is fun. The thing with the chalupa is that's not an every time item for me, because it's very heavy. Not good for you. Are you trying to get healthy items from Talcoville? I'm not trying to get healthy, but not at all.

I'm under no illusions about what I'm doing, but it's just more, like, lighter. A balance of different items. So, like, if I'm getting that, then, like, that's gonna be the. You know, that's gonna be holding down this whole order. So I may be limited in some of the other things I can choose.

I don't know. Spicy ranch is on the. Is on the cheese. Google crunch. Yeah, it's good sauce.

Avital Ash

Is that your favorite cheese? Gordon crunch is my favorite. And there's a big. It's this complicated. Yeah, it's not complicated.

Nick Weiger

There's nothing complicated about it. It did not win the tournament, and so Mitch is mad. Pretty simple. I do feel like this is a thing that people take. Really?

Avital Ash

Everybody has, like, their taco bell order. Yes. And they don't want nothing. He's talking about the cheesy Gordy crunch for years. And then also the potato soft.

Nick Weiger

I like the cheesy Gordita crunch. Hey. Wow, Mitch. So if anything. So, like, I perhaps was biased towards one item and then another item.

I objectively was able to see its quality over the thing I had some inherent favoritism towards. Maybe that makes me a better, more neutral judge. Maybe a better arbiter of justice. You combated your cronyism. Exactly.

Thank you. Well said. Thank you. Fuck off, you old crone full of shit. I'm saying he's old crone.

Mike Mitchell

Look, Mitch, he makes it so his thing wins the tournament. Shut up. Fucking. You did try to rig it. In and out.

One your fucking potato soft tacos. Won more. This guy's the rigger. So you named two examples in the 90 years we had the tournament. There's more.

There's more. Look at the numbers. You ever call him Nick, rigger? Look at the numbers. I should nick.

You rig things. I don't rig anything. Trying to look up 19th century foods. Was this to go to back? Still trying to do that bitch.

Nick Weiger

I don't feel like we're good one. Did California exist when they had this? Yeah. California would add statehood by then. No.

Mike Mitchell

Well, there goes the. Want to try this? New states. Oh, God. What?

California pizza kitchen. You know, there's something where California just was, you know. God, this is extremely unhealthy. Used to be called Mexico pizza kitchen. That's pretty good.

Nick Weiger

This is. This is extremely unhelpful. Buffalo wild wings is buffalo Wild west. That's good, Mitch.

Yeah. This. This. This is the category for Wikipedia. Is 1860s in food has a subcategory food and drinks introduced in the 1860s.

And then it's food and drink introduced in 1863. Takes to another page, which is frozen food. How is that helpful? And then it says, food and drink introduced into 1866. This is way too hyper organized.

And then has another one for breyers. So guess. Breyers ice cream launched in 1866. Wow. Breyers.

Avital Ash

That's cool. Yeah. Probably made that fucking Lincoln's stove top hat fucking shoot off his head when he took a look at that. It was. I think he had already passed away by then.

Mike Mitchell

Oh, 1866. Yeah. When did he die? 64. Five.

Nick Weiger

I should know the exact year. I think it was 65. I wonder if pre Breyer's the only ice cream you could get is if someone made it and gave it to you. Had to have been. Yeah.

Yeah. They didn't have any sort of, like, way to freeze things in mass quantities. Right? Yeah. So it had to be made on the spot.

Mike Mitchell

Time travel seems cool until I think about no ac, and I think that I would just not like it ever. Yeah. A lot of stuff would suck. What's also, like for a lawn? For much of history?

Nick Weiger

No flush toilets. So we're gonna shit in a fucking bucket. That's right. The Wild west was out. Shit like the streets were, like, full of shit.

Fucking disgusting. And no one was washing their hands. Yeah. Cool with that. Also, the pissing outside, I'm kind of cool with.

Avital Ash

It's only the shitting. It's only the shitting. Like, the streets were, like, filled with shit, basically. Yeah. Yeah.

The streets just lined with feces. Yeah, it's disgusting. Revolting. That was the road. History was gross.

Mike Mitchell

The road was the shit we talked about before. I don't know. I don't know. Where are we? I think I said this on the podcast before, but, like, that's, like, there were, like, the Roman the bathhouse, which is.

Nick Weiger

Everyone talks about the bathhouses, but they had the shithouses where everyone would go take their big shits, and they had, like, a communal, like, sticks with sponges on them that people would use as toilet paper. So, like, you would like. And I guess, like, that. The way that would, quote unquote sanitize it would be, like, dip it in vinegar between uses. So you'd be rubbing, like, vinegar on a sponge that, like, a hundred other people used on your asshole after you just, like, shit in front of a bunch of strangers.

Avital Ash

How did more people not just die? I don't know. That is so disgusting. So disgusting. Like, I'm grossed out to go into a porta potty.

Nick Weiger

Yeah, I don't like that, let alone. To use, like, the vinegar. Ass luffa. Exactly. It's so bad, I'm surprised.

Mike Mitchell

I bet you the head gum hunks. I bet you it's, like, a thing where that's, like. It's actually, like, more hygienic.

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Mike Mitchell

Do it.

Nick Weiger

We should get to our final thoughts on California pizza kitchen, too. So, Avital, here's how this will work. We'll each go around give our closing. I can't believe it's only two for California pizza. Isn't that wild?

We've only done it twice in the storied history of the podcast, we've been to IHOP six times. Five or six times. But we've only been a CBK twice. How many times? Ten times.

Mike Mitchell

Ten times. Seven years of longing for it? I guess so. God, seven more years, you'll be 50. How old will you be?

48? Yeah. Will you be 50? Are you 43? I'm 43, yeah.

Old doughboys. I mean, I don't. Are we gonna keep doing this for seven? I don't. Look, I don't think 50 is old.

I'm just saying, you know, when you hit 50, you're getting closer to your. You don't want to still be doing this. You don't want to still be reviewing fast food. Yeah, but we probably will be. You're bringing joy to the masses.

Nick Weiger

I guess so. Beautiful. And what better way to celebrate 50 than with CPK? Wow. Well said.

Let's. Let's get to our closing argument. So, your thoughts? Your fork. Score.

Avital, you're our guest. We'll start with you, you know? Solid. I'm happy. I'll go three and a half.

Three and a half forks. Good score. What do you think, spoon? Man, this is hard. I don't know.

Mike Mitchell

A part of me wants to give it four forks because it knows what it's doing making these specialty pizzas. It just feels really like a place that the world is leaving behind soon, and I just don't know how long, you know? Oh, there was news that Jersey Mike's was gonna get bought. Did you see that? Jersey Mike's was gonna get sold for, like, a couple billion dollars.

Nick Weiger

I didn't see that yet. To, like, some horrible, like, you know, like, a yum foods type. Yeah, there's all these. Look, all these companies are owned by private equity. I haven't actually haven't seen which.

You know, which russian nesting doll corporation, corporate conglomerate, owns California pizza kitchen. I should look that up. But it's that scary thing of. You're like, oh, no, Jersey Mike's. There's, like, a good chance the quality will go down once.

Mike Mitchell

Sure. Once it's bought up, uh. Cause one of our. One of our great new. I mean, it's not new anymore, but one of the places that we love.

I'm surprised that CPK has kept the quality. I mean, today, it was. It was good. It was good. So, I don't know.

I might go just four forks wise. I might be nice. Four forks. Good. Score.

Nick Weiger

It looks like CBK. I almost feel convinced, as you were, especially the way that it's been left in the dust. It really tugged at my heartstrings. I mean, like, the way it got left in the dust. I would expect it to be way worse than it was today.

Mike Mitchell

And it's not at all. It feels. I mean, I don't even know if it's a dying chain. I could be wrong. Maybe it still does, like, a ton of lunch specials and it still does decent dinner stuff, but I think it's.

Nick Weiger

Receded a little bit. I think the, like, all these sit down chains again, with a large footprint with the big dining rooms through the. The pandemic hit them pretty hard and they never fully recovered. So I think. And talking about its corporate ownership, it's currently owned by Nestle, pretty onerous evil corporation.

Previously was owned by Golden Gate Capital LP. So again, you know, it's like. That sounds normal. Yeah. It's like a marvel villain.

Yeah. You're always putting money into the pockets of monsters. Unfortunately, I had a song. I had a parody song I was gonna sing tonight. I forgot it.

Mike Mitchell

It sucks. Or CBK. Yeah. And I can't think of what it was. Wish they all could be California pizza.

Avital Ash

That was it. I think it might have been way. I think you remember the Austin Powers BBC One. I think it may be CPK to that, but I don't know. That's pretty good.

Mike Mitchell

I don't know. I can't remember. Can you do a. Back in the. You can't really see PKR.

That's. I think that works back. The CPK back and the CPK back. And the CPK are. And then, like, r stands for restaurant.

You can just add an extra ride.

Yeah. No, I can't remember. I should write things down constantly. My notes app is just thoughts that I have to do throughout the day mixed in with stupid doughboys. Thoughts.

Let's see here. Call cedars to see if I owe anything. Call a hospital. Yeah. Pay Louisiana taxes.

Nick Weiger

Okay. Oh, you worked in Louisiana when you were shooting down in Tobayou. You're shooting twisted metal. How'd you like that? It was very hot.

Mike Mitchell

I liked it. But I did like it quite a bit. It was good. Yeah. Now I can't even find.

Nick Weiger

You hired a Louisiana accountant as a thing, and he turned out to be a gator. Classic Louisiana swap, they call that. Aw, handle your taxes. That's also just what you call a gay attorney.

Avital Ash

Gator knee.

Mike Mitchell

Whale rider. Sequel to the whale, which we brought up. That's good. You did say that before. That's good.

Nick Weiger

Did you see the whale? No, but I just keep thinking. Somebody I work with keeps saying that spoiler for anybody who's listening, that it's a story about a guy who's so fat and so scared, and then he finally takes one step and dies. Yeah, I probably don't need to watch that. It's basically.

It's real bad. Brent Fraser's good in it, but it's just like, it's. Yeah, he just jacks off. He watches porno. He jacks off, eats meatball subs, and then when he does, takes that last step, he floats.

So, like, he takes a step and then there's. It's like my jaw dropped in the theater when it happened. Like, he takes one and then the other one, like, the other foot doesn't land on the ground. Like he's ascending into heaven. And it's because the step killed him.

Yeah. It's cause his daughter, whose essay. He's obsessed with his essay about Moby Dick, which he wants, he starts to jack off, then he has a heart attack, and then he has someone read the essay to him while he's dying. And then his daughter ends up coming later on. Like, she shows up in the movie, and they are like, there's this tense relationship, but then she talks him into taking steps towards her, and that's when he dies and floats to heaven.

While reading the essay. While reading the essay to him. Yeah. Finally hearing it from her. Her mouth, usually.

I mean, you watch it, put it on. Why not? I don't know. It sounds like a lot of reasons why not.

Avital Ash

I like the whale rider. Yeah. Yeah, that was that great. I've used it, I think, four times since I wrote it down. Jared Shaw is in civil War.

Mike Mitchell

That's what I. Because I told myself to text Jared. Your buddy from tomorrow. My buddy for tomorrow. From tomorrow.

Nick Weiger

War to civil war, without giving it away. I won't say anything. I won't. It's a spoiler. Okay.

Avital Ash

You'll tell me after or I can look it up. I have the Internet in my pocket. I'll tell you. I'll tell you after. Okay, great.

Nick Weiger

Let me give my thoughts. I like California pizza kitchen a lot. I'm a fan. I've been there a bunch. Natalie and I will get it to go sometimes.

I think it is. I think you're absolutely right, Mitch. It's sometimes a dreary dine in experience, because these places are. They've seen better days. But I will say I got great service when I went.

And I do just like the food. I like what they do. I think it's pretty solid. I think this is a four forker. Honestly, I don't see a reason to go below the four forks threshold.

Avital Ash

I said 3.5 because I ruined the. Whole day for everybody with your 3.5. I've only been on here once before, and I gave it a four, and I was just afraid to play myself. You know what I mean? Mendocino farms, which we were all pretty high on, and we had a good time.

Mike Mitchell

Fortunately, your score is locked in. You ruined it for CPK. Okay, okay. Is there, like, a extra credit I could do to lift it, or. Well, you're talking to the wrong guy.

This guy loves homework. No, I think you can amend your score. I don't think you need to do. Any sort of work. Yeah, we change it all the time.

Nick Weiger

Yeah, we do it. Mitch was doing a bit special for me. No, no. If you want to change it for. But I don't want us to pressure.

Don't let us persuade you. You know what's funny? I think, in a weird way, I was like, the salmon's really good. And you're like, yeah, it's okay. And then I was like, all right, three and a half.

Mike Mitchell

Oh, wow. I liked it. I'm just a loser with no background. No. Easily persuaded.

Avital Ash

Just like fucking CPK. The poetic irony of them not sticking to what they believed in and just trying to service the crowds with all the fan favorite pizzas. My negative energy was, yeah, it's okay. That. That changed everything.

But really, it's a me problem, because I should have held steadfast in my beliefs. Well, you say whatever you. Whatever. Say whatever you want. You can stick with three and a half.

Nick Weiger

You can go up to four. It feels like a four. It feels like Mendo level. Wow. Also, that.

Avital Ash

That key lime really bumps it up, too. Honestly, that. That may have a. Be worth a half fork in and of it. Yeah.

Nick Weiger

Wow. Welcome to the Gold club, California. I gotta say it. How about that? You know what a score Abraham Lincoln would be proud of?

Four score. Wow. Four score. That's good, Mitch. Four forks is a four score.

Mike Mitchell

A four score. Yeah. I like when you say, that's good, Mitch. You sound like a proud dad.

You wouldn't be proud. Aw. You would not. I mean, he's proud of me. Sometimes I'm proud of you.

That was your offspring. I don't think you'd be happy. Look, your dad wouldn't have been proud of you, and I'm not gonna have a son. So this is the next best thing for both of us can be proud of my friend Mitch. I told you that.

I'm lucky my dad passed away before doughboys. He didn't have to see this fucking bullshit.

He's like, he'll figure something out. He might become a lawyer or something. I'm sure, as he was passing away. But no, we did a fast food podcast instead. The minions menu gets four forks.

Nick Weiger

That's what you're doing.

Hey, that was our review. Oh, I didn't give out my weger's little nibbles at noon, which I resuscitated with Johnny Pemberton. Cause they did have a lunch meal. Forget this. I think there's a pretty clear little nibbles at noon winner.

Which is that that Unkar plutt perform prepared small portion of bread with olive oil. It was quite yummy, but it was very, very small. Shout out to Pemberton. Shout out to Zach Cherry. Shout out to John Daley.

Mike Mitchell

All in the fallout three series. How about Zach Terry? I don't know. He's a great dude. He's great.

Nick Weiger

Well, you know what? He's going to listen to this episode because he hasn't listened to the podcast and he'll let us know what he thinks about you. Whoa. Pass that along. Can we take.

Avital Ash

Can we go back?

He's in two of the best shows ever. Yeah. Yeah. I would say succession and the Ben Stiller one. Severance.

Severance. Thank you. And follow now. Hey, man. Zach, what are you doing?

Mike Mitchell

Don't listen to this shit. Cut us out. Cut us out of it. Made me sound good in front of Zach. I don't know.

Avital Ash

Say something nice about me or say something. She changed her score to four. I changed my score to four. Willing to revise her fork score. Pretty cool.

I'm open to growing and changing and being corrected. She's open to growing and changing and being corrected. Thank you. Pretty cool. And you said that all on your own?

Nick Weiger

Word. Exonym. Now, in the lexicon, if you didn't know it, you know it now. I can't believe you both knew cronyism. I feel like crony is like a lesser used.

Avital Ash

I don't even. As a prefix, like a. X. X. We say all the time.

Yeah, in a different way, but still. I don't know. I don't know where I heard cronyism, but I'm certainly familiar with it. I know cronyism. Did you guys know it?

No, I didn't know it. Thank you. I'm familiar with the word, but don't. Think about it often. Would you have known what it meant.

Nick Weiger

I would assume, because I know what a crony is, right? Yeah. So I would assume, right. I like how intuitive it is. But then I still had never heard it.

Avital Ash

Like, patricide, another, like, sort of intuitive word that you just don't hear. Oh, yeah. Infanticide. Any of the asides, really? Can we get a side of aside?

Mike Mitchell

If I was his son, it would be some patricide or infanticide. Yeah, you're a baby. Yeah. After I shit my diaper in the room, he'd probably try to strike.

Look, so over this happens. Give me a check. She just gets done with the podcast at this point, and I don't blame. Her showing off her belly. Aw, look at that big old belly.

I think the belly looks great. It does. You know what? She had a little whipped cream treat. Yeah.

Nick Weiger

With lunch. That's right. What do you think she would give it? I bet four forks. She's a real freak for whipped cream.

Avital Ash

If you just take it out of the fridge and shake the can, she comes running. So was her, like, in the whipped cream bikini, like, in bars? It was supposed to be go on our key lime pie. And then. So we didn't eat it.

Mike Mitchell

And so didn't eat it. Emma was feeding Jimmy, and then Weiger got on all fours and got behind Jimmy and mine to eat some. I was hungry. He was hungry. And Jemmy started humping me to assert dominance.

Nick Weiger

Hey. That was our review of California pizza kitchen for the second time. Wow. Here's the segment. I've chosen a cake.

And Mitch and Avital must divine a series of clues to guess what it is. The winner takes the cake. The loser goes home empty stomached. This is cake it off. Wow.

Avital Ash

Wow.

Nick Weiger

Cause the baker's gonna bake, bake, bake, bake, bake. And my belly's gonna ache, ache, ache, ache, ache. Baby, I'm just gonna cake, cake, cake, cake, cake. I cake it off, I cake it off, all its layers gonna lay, lay, lay, lay, lay. And the fondant makes it fake, fake, fake, fake, fake.

Baby, I'm just gonna cake, cake, cake, cake, cake. I cake it off, I cake it off. Goo oo oo. Okay.

Mike Mitchell

Goo. I was trying to think of, like, what frosting could kind of be like a cake goo. So I just went with goo cao. Instead of woo ooh. Ooh.

Avital Ash

I'm not sure we want this cake. Yeah. All right, so, fondant. We talked about fondant. We got a beautiful cake.

Nick Weiger

We did get a beautiful cake that. Tasted delicious, but a lot of fondant on the outside to make it look as good as it looked. You are talking about. We got a Ford to celebrate seven years of the doughboys double on Patreon. Our friend Sam over at Patreon sent over a lovely cake.

It was very wonderful gesture. Did you eat inside the fondant or you had it? We did, and we ate some of the fondant. Fondant. And I've had fondant before.

Mike Mitchell

It makes many cakes look incredible. But fondant tough to eat. Of course, you're not supposed to eat the fondant is the thing. Oops, I don't think so. Right.

Avital Ash

It's only made out of sugar. I think you're supposed to eat. It's better if it's just a small amount. But on those, like, decorative cakes, they tend to layer it thicker, so it's hard. I think that you were supposed to.

Mike Mitchell

The cake we got. I thought you were supposed to eat the burger outside. Now you don't think so? I think you can. Oh, they were shaped like burgers.

Yeah, it was cool. It was a great cake. It was a good cake. Anytime it, like, looks like something else, I feel like it's fondant. Yeah, that's a tool.

Oh, it's a tool. Like, that's the way that they. Right. Because it's just manipulative, malleable. Yeah.

Nick Weiger

Okay, I gotta get the cake. It's in the. It's on, Amelia says on the kitchen table, wrapped in a paper towel. Oh, Emma's gonna get it. Thank you, Emma.

Avital Ash

Oh, you need it here. Oh, yeah, because the winner. No, because the winner. The winner takes the cake. Winner takes the cake.

The winner takes the cake. Winner takes the cake. So I don't really want a cake. I mean, I hope that you win. Well, you can always, like, give it away if you.

Nick Weiger

You don't have to take it home and eat it if you win. I do feel like that Abba song is a good alt. Okay, well, why don't you keep it over there by you? Because I think this one's probably better. Out of sight.

What's the Abba song? The winner takes it all. Oh, that is good. The winner takes the cake. I like that.

Avital Ash

The loser has. What's the big Abba movie? Mamma mia is one of them. Right? Is there another Abba movie?

Mike Mitchell

Mamma mia. Two. Yeah, that's the one. Mama mia. Oh.

Avital Ash

Oh, there is another Abba movie. Muriel's wedding. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that what you were thinking of?

Mike Mitchell

It might be, yeah. Hell, yeah. Is that where dancing queen is from? Well, dancing queen is from Ababa. Ok.

Nick Weiger

It's just one of their songs. Okay, so you have two lifelines for kick it off. You have ask Emma and the frosting reveal. Wow. And here's how this works.

The clues will get increasingly more obvious. So we're gonna start with the most inscrutable, the hardest clue. And then they were going to get easier as we go. And you choose whether you go first or second. Usually you should go second because it's.

Mike Mitchell

You will probably get on. I'm just telling you, get information from you. But then if you're confident, guess one. You risk losing it by guess two, but it is an instant. And I sometimes have.

I sometimes have pulled it with guess one just to. So you know it's true. I think this one's good, but sometimes, wow. Sometimes I make. I think he's made it harder now.

Nick Weiger

Okay, well, your choice. Do you want to go first or 2nd? 2Nd. We'll go second. Mitch.

First, the worst. Second is the best. Third is the one with the hairy chest. I used to hear Bella. I've heard ballerina dress and hairy chest.

Avital Ash

I'd be curious to get a poll, but fuck. Was that what just happened? Do you not know that? I've never heard this before.

Mike Mitchell

First is the worst, second is the best. Third is the one with the hairy chest. I thought you two just riffed that out. That's like an old schoolyard rhyme. Yeah, it's insane.

Nick Weiger

I don't remember that at all. And then does it just stop there? There's no four. Five, six. I don't think so.

Yeah, three. Just three. I. Fourth is a nerd, fifth is a turd. 6th is the one who gets flipped the bird.

Avital Ash

Wow. Very nice. Shit. He's improvising new lines. We should've just pretended it was a riff.

We were just. So teach some children to flip people with their life.

Nick Weiger

7Th is a chump. 8th has to hump. 9th has to watch me take a dump. All right, now he's just getting into it. He's killing him.

So he came in 9th. I want to know so you can ask Emma. And you have the frosting reveal. And also you're going to get your first clue, Mitch. And here it is.

Mike Mitchell

Okay. If a delicate plant hadn't been shipped from east Africa to South America in the 18th century, we wouldn't have this sweet cake. Huh? If a delicate plant hadn't been shipped from east Africa to South America in the 18th century, we wouldn't have this sweet cake.

If this delicate plant. If this delicate plant. Mmm.

Nick Weiger

East Africa to South America in the 18th century. I've never used one of the lifelines before. You can ask Emma, and you can get a frosting reveal. Does she know what it is, though, or. No.

Mike Mitchell

Oh, you do? What's the reason? Why? I won't spoil it that bad? I can't.

I can't ask em if she knows. Okay. Casey, do you know? No, I have no idea. Okay, so we ask Casey for today.

Nick Weiger

I didn't realize Emma. I didn't realize Emma had been clued. In, or I could see a frosting reveal, or I'm told what? You're told what the frosting is. You'd ask Casey, but Casey doesn't know, so it's just Casey's best guess.

Yeah, just Casey's best guess. It's like casey made. Like, Casey knows what the. What that flower is. Yeah.

He might have an idea what that clue is. Yeah. Okay. Are you using your lifeline? No.

Okay. I feel like you don't know. No, no. I'm gonna. I'm gonna ask what the frosting is.

Here's the frosting reveal. Typically, no frosting. That's a huge reveal, and you're definitely gonna get it now with the second question, because I don't know. Still. Do we.

Avital Ash

If you. If you guess and you're wrong, do you just guess the next round or. Yeah, there's no penalty for wrong. I'm just gonna guess like hibiscus cake. Not hibiscus cake.

I can't even think of a cake. That doesn't have frosting or it's a flower or plant, I guess. I don't know. My first thought with that was, like, vanilla bean. I don't know its origins.

We were talking about it, so I'm maybe primed to think about it. Could be. We'll see what your guess is after this clue. Avital, your clue is don't be misled by the name. This sweet pie does not include its name ingredient.

Whoa. So it's a pie. That makes sense why it wouldn't have frost. I'm sorry. It said, should we.

Nick Weiger

No, I copy pasted that. It's supposed to be sweet cake. Hold on. Sorry. Take it again.

Don't we? Can it be? Is that it? It's not a pie. Okay.

Don't be misled by the name. This sweet cake does not include its name ingredient. Wow. So it's a cake whose name is not an ingredient in the cake cake.

Avital Ash

I'm gonna use, like, red velvet. Cause it doesn't have velvet in it. But that very much has frosting, one. Would say so, yeah, it's a good guess. So the trying to think of what my options are.

Wild guess, or I don't have anything to ask either of you. Right? Cause you did that. Oh, you can ask. You have another lifeline.

Nick Weiger

The frosting reveal has been used, but ask Casey is still alive. I see. You might as well ask Emma. It's still the ask Emma lifeline, but this time, Casey will be answering for Emma. And it's just like a.

Avital Ash

What do you think? Yeah, it's. What do you think? All right, Casey, what do you think? The only cakes that I could think of that don't have icing are, like, coffee cake or bundt cake or stuff like that.

Mike Mitchell

So I'm, like, thinking. I think coffee cake is a great guess, because, again, it was another bean that we were discussing earlier. Let's try coffee cake. If there's no penalty, there is no penalty. Never mind, because coffee cake definitely has coffee in it.

Avital Ash

And it was like, don't be fooled by the name. It doesn't have the ingredient. Right. That is the clue. Yeah.

Coffee cake definitely has coffee in it.

Mike Mitchell

What the heck? Quizmaster makes some. Fucking. Gave a guess. But is your guest coffee cake?

Avital Ash

No, but I don't have a better one, so I don't. Yeah, I'm just mad at him for letting the game. Yeah. Just sitting there silently. Punish her.

She said it. No, no, no. I was. I was. I was unclear.

Nick Weiger

Yeah, I could have filled some of that dinner, but I was unclear. As if you were guessing coffee cake and regretting it. Or you're taking the guests back. You're locking in coffee cake. I just want to think of something else.

Avital Ash

What I want to do, but it would be super boring, is go through the letters of the Alphabet until I can see what prompts are like, oh, yeah, that's a cake. That's really fun for you guys, right? Yeah, it's fun.

Nick Weiger

What would the writers room. What would Lincoln's writers room do?

Avital Ash

Hugo or Todd would know for sure. All right, we can. Just for the interest of fun. You can. You can.

Mike Mitchell

This is tough. I still. I still don't know what it is. Mitch, you're. You're up.

I still don't. Both lifelines have been used. Clue number three. Cake for breakfast. Yup.

What the fuck? Cake for breakfast. Yup. And that's less opaque than your first clue, huh? Is this, like, an ad campaign that you guys know?

Avital Ash

Did you get it? No. Okay. No, this isn't, like, got milk? This is.

Nick Weiger

This is a spoke clue. I still don't know it. Cake for breakfast. Yup.

Your previous clues. If a delicate plant hadn't been shipped from East Africa to South America in the 18th century, we wouldn't have the sweet cake. Number two, don't be misled by the name. The sweet cake does not include its name. Ingredient number three.

Cake for breakfast. Yup. Is there a yuppie cake? Cake for yuppies. I can't tell if yup is a part of the.

Avital Ash

I don't know either. Or if it's just that you can have. It's a breakfast cake. Yeah, I it's. It's.

Mike Mitchell

It has to be some sort of dumb clue he's giving me here. It has to be. Yeah. Doesn't have to be anything. Yep.

What does that mean? Yep, yep, yep, yep. Emma, knowing what the cake is, is this making sense to you? I don't know. The yup.

Avital Ash

No.

At least not. The emphasis is being put on the yup. This is a reference I also don't get. I was having fun saying the yup. It was just a little flourish.

Nick Weiger

Yeah. Cake for breakfast. Yup. Yup. It's fun, right?

Mike Mitchell

Cake for breakfast. A breakfast cake. Cake for breakfast. I mean, coffee cake is. What did you just.

You just thought. I thought of something, and I don't even really know what it is, but I'll say it when. When it's not your turn. I. A part of me is like.

But also, like, it's not. Don't worry, it's not in the name. So I'm like, is there some sort of egg cake or, like a. You know, I have no idea. But it's a plant.

The plant thing. All of these clues are just making me confused.

I don't know. I'm going to pass. Mitch is passing. Once again, avatar guest. Last time, boysenberry.

Nick Weiger

No, I meant because you were passing, so we're passing. Yeah. This is hard. Don't get mad. No, I wasn't saying, like, you thought it was attacking you.

You got defensive. You're gonna be shocked by that, too. Oh.

Mike Mitchell

You'Re gonna get it here, cuz. Next clue. This is where. Clue number four. This can't be.

This is even harder than you. What I was thinking, just in case I have it before this clue, but I'm not submitting the guests. Just for the record, for the stenographer, I was thinking, like, a tea cake, because I'm not sure there's tea in it, and that seems breakfasty. Okay, go on. I don't even really know what a tea cake is.

Avital Ash

I think it's just a small cake. Sure. But probably does not contain tea. Here is clue number four. Many cakes already include these ingredients.

Nick Weiger

But it's fair to ask if you'd take your cake with sugar and cream. Tea cake. Coffee cake. But it definitely coffee. Has to have coffee.

Avital Ash

I mean, in the UK, you wouldn't know, but you can take your. Was it just coffee cake? What is your guess? Tea cake. Not tea cake.

Mike Mitchell

Hold on. Yeah, but we did try coffee cake. Did I not even submit coffee cake to the council? You did pass. You passed.

Avital Ash

You did pass. Fuck. What is it? Fucking coffee cake. I'm gonna be so mad.

Nick Weiger

Do you want the clue? Give me the clue. The clue is I've been add this fucking coffee cake. It's not toffee cake.

Mike Mitchell

You dumbass. Why did we not both just say it? I didn't say coffee cake last time. Cause I was like, it's not coffee cake. Cupcake has coffee in it also.

Why would be afraid of coffee cake? Coffee cake is my answer. Mitch, you have one. Cake it off. I guess coffee cake is just meant to be had with coffee cake.

Nick Weiger

That is the. That is not like coffee ice cream. That has. Speaking of etymology. It is.

It is because it is typically served with coffee. It is not something that includes coffee as an ingredient as typically considered. Backflips. I did to get to tea cake. I don't even drink tea.

You had it with coffee cake and. Then you back last minute. Yeah. Emma. Gimme, gimme, gimme.

Mike Mitchell

I know I said I never cake, but gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme. Let's take a look at that coffee cake. Oh, it's from Starbucks. Oh, that's a little less exciting. Here, I want to try some of it.

Avital Ash

Thank you. It's yours. I was just. No, no, you won. I was.

Mike Mitchell

Maybe we should give it to the quiz master himself. Maybe he. Wow. What a nice gesture. That was good.

Nick Weiger

Yeah. Nice. Well done, everyone. Right here. Jimmy's excited about it, as intended.

Mike Mitchell

Fucking good. So that crumble is not. It's just cinnamon. It's not. It's typically not coffee.

I mean, but it's not another piece. Of ingredient that's good. This is gonna fall. Thank you. I will say I was naturally skeptical when I heard Starbucks coffee cake, but then biting into it, this is not bad at all.

Avital Ash

That is good. Very moist. I know that's a trigger word for a lot of people. Our listeners love it. Do you guys wanna try?

Nick Weiger

Mm, sure. It's fucking good. All right. This cake is being passed around the room. Sorry, Jamie.

Sorry, jemmy. We had plenty of whipped cream earlier. Yeah, you had your puppuccino, which also does not have a cappuccino in it. It. Wow.

Avital Ash

Yeah. A papachino. That's another one. Yes, exactly. What?

Mike Mitchell

How did you blow your mind? Because a puppuccino doesn't have a cappuccino in it. Oh, you're saying. Yeah, well, just another food that doesn't have its name in it. Mm hmm.

Avital Ash

It also doesn't have puppies in it. Wow. Yeah. I think we maybe need to get you to a hospital. Should we get.

Mike Mitchell

You're worrying. You're scaring me. That was. Take it off. Just like a restaurant.

Nick Weiger

Via feedback. Let's open the feedback and. Hey, we have a voicemail today. Let's play this one. Oops.

Avital Ash

Hold on. Wait. Did you do. You did right now? I already forgot my.

I need to go to a hospital. Did you do cake it off by Taylor Swift, or did you do something else? Um, I did the app, a song, which. Oh, it was. Kick it off.

Okay, great. All right, here it is. Hi. I got a second wife, Andrea, here. Long time listener, first time caller.

This is a comment my husband and I have been listening to the podcast for about as long as its existence. And our son, when he was old enough, he started playing snack or whack and drink our sink with us. At least a couple times a month, we purchase a weird or new snack or drink from the gas station. We all take turns trying and raving it. Recently, I noticed my son was actually eating all of his school lunch that I packed for him, which is totally unheard of.

I said, really happily, wow, you must be really enjoying everything I send. And he said, no, not really. Actually, my friends and I laid all of our lunch items on the table at lunch and take turns trying each one and play snack or wack. So, in San Ramon, California, there is a group of eight year olds rating their goldfish and double stuffed oreos. Snack or whack, the origin story of a new generation of Buxtons and Wu Tang.

Thanks for the laugh. And thank you, Amelia. Emma and Casey as well. Big Amelia fan here. Not sure what the name for Amelia Moreno fans is, so maybe Moreno monsters.

Mike Mitchell

Wow. Or Amelia associates. Anyways, thanks for listening. Bye, guys. Wow.

Nick Weiger

Andrea sent that in. Thank you, Andrea. Son is playing snacker whack with his friends. Wow. You know, back in my day, Mitch, we played games like ookie cookie.

That's wild. That is wild. Yeah, it does make me feel like we should get like a doughboys board game or some shit. Try to cash in on this a little bit. Like a cards against humanity.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, we should send love up to that at school. And how he gave a seats and desist to the eight year olds. Are you also with Liv? I am with Lev. Yeah, very much with Lev.

The doughboys are with Liv. Yeah, me too. Yeah, he's a guy. What a guy. He was a part of our live show.

Nick Weiger

He did, he did show up in our live shows. A lot of fun. Oh, that's awesome. So we had a, so here's what I will say. This isn't so much a question as a comment, but Mitch, I'm curious your reaction to this.

Cause to me, I'm like, kind of like, I guess a little stunned by this. I understand that kids are just gonna glom onto whatever. Sure. But it is strange to think of first of all our listeners having children, but then also that, like, those children, like absorbing something from the podcast. Yeah.

A little disorienting. No, it's not. Not good. It's. This is the most I've ever wanted to stop the podcast.

Mike Mitchell

It's nice. I think it's a very nice, it's a lovely voicemail. Children shouldn't listen to the pod. They definitely should. Probably, yeah.

But, you know, I mean, we say crim now, so I think we cover up a lot of stuff. Yeah. Or jazz. Or jazz. Or flesh crema.

And then we don't say. Or grandpa's toothpaste.

I mean, we could make the show kid friendly. We could make it kid friendly. Look, we've had some ideas. We've talked. I'd love to make the show kid friendly.

Oh my God. Oh, God.

Nick Weiger

What?

I'll be told. What were your school lunches like? What did you have when you brought in? I was thinking about you talking about fucking an apple. And I was like, yes.

Mike Mitchell

I was gonna say that it would be cool to meet this kid, but as you know, you probably have to say 500ft away from him, just in general. That's, I think it's, I think it rules. It's lovely. I think it's a very nice thing. I'd like to, so I want to pivot the, I guess to form a question on this.

Nick Weiger

I want to pivot to school lunches. Do you have a favorite snack from your school lunch days? So usually the main was we would have grillers with like a hamburger bun and ketchup. Real basic. But I really like them.

Avital Ash

They don't taste like hamburgers, but they taste good. Was this thing you get from the cafeteria, or was the thing you packed. I had from home. Oh, wow. And then.

Mike Mitchell

Wow. I have. Are they like a packaged thing? Yeah, they're like, you microwave them, and then you just put them in bread. Got it.

Avital Ash

They're like Morningstar Farms, I think, is the brand that made. So they're just like veggie burgers, but they're good. I mean, I think, to me, they just taste like my childhood. And then I had, like, objectively the best lunches, but I didn't want them, so I was kind of a hero because I would give you my gushers. I didn't say my dungaroos, but, no, I would eat dunkaroos when I had.

Mike Mitchell

Those are good. They're good. And they're close enough to that, like, pastry. You know, it's not just, oh, fruit by the foot and gushers I usually had, and I would give them away. Cause I didn't like them.

Those are two big ones. Fruit by the foot's a lot of fun. Yeah. It seems disgusting now, like, that I was a kid unrolling this thing and, like, probably collecting stuff on. But fruit by the foot was big.

I'm a cheez it guy. Yeah, cheez its first. I've always been a cheez it guy and goldfish, but I love goldfish and cheez its, but I think cheez its are my favorite over goldfish. Here's my question. When you get cheez it in the school lunch, would you get an individual, like, cheez it bag or would be a plastic bag with cheez it from the box?

Ah, well, at school lunches, I think if they sold them, I mean, I don't think they even had Cheez it, but I feel like it would be a small cheez it bag, but I was getting Cheez it's from home. No, that's what I was asking. But when you get it from home, would you get, like, the sealed? It would be those. Me too.

Nick Weiger

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like maybe. Were we pre, like the individual? No, probably not.

In the individual packs, I always kind of remember them being around, but maybe less common. I feel like the individual packs had a taste discrepancy for a while. Sure. I feel like they didn't taste as good as the big boxed ones. It tastes like plastic more.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. There was something about it that just didn't taste right. And I got, like, the little plastic baggie with Cheez it's in it. Are those bags? Have they dissolved by this day.

Nick Weiger

No, those are. Those will be around for thousands of. Years, but they're just sitting in a dozen. Sitting in landfill. Yeah.

Yeah. There's so much plastic waste in this country. It's like, what are you gonna do?

Mike Mitchell

I was a lunch. Bring a lunch to school. I was very much bring a lunch to school kid for a while. Yeah. I think I was back and forth, because I think later on I just became, like, a bio lunch at school kid.

Nick Weiger

I definitely did that for a time. Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember anything in the cafeteria. I'm almost like, did we have a cafeteria?

Avital Ash

But I think my brain is just broken. Yeah, I had a lot of the same sort of thing. It's so fucking long ago now that I have a hard time remembering these details. We definitely had a cafeteria, but we also had a little kiosk where you could buy individual self serve pizza or one serving pizza. I remember getting that.

Nick Weiger

I remember having, like, getting two, like, single serving pizzas and two chocolate milks and then having a stomach ache and not understanding the connection. Cause it was just fucking dumb. Chicken patty day was big for me. Yeah, the chicken patty, I think it was Tuesdays, maybe. I don't know.

Mike Mitchell

Chicken patty day was big, though. It was just like a chicken on a bun. It was the plainest thing. But it was. I mean, if I ate it now, I'd probably be like, this is.

I can't believe they are. And also, I'm sure the food is maybe gotten better at this point. I don't know. I do remember chocolate milks. Like, little chocolate milk that just came back.

Nick Weiger

Those are a lot of fun. Those were great. Yeah. They, like, sometimes be frozen. Did that ever happen to you?

Oh, you get a nice, nicey cold. What a treat. That is hitting on some core memories. Yeah. I mean, it's.

Mike Mitchell

It's prison food. I mean, like, also, prisoners shouldn't be fed this food either. Yeah, it's not good. It's not great. Yeah, and it's probably, like, one of these.

It's the San Francisco whatever company probably. Fucking owns it too. Yeah. 100. Oh, man, Mitch, that's it.

Nick Weiger

You're 100%. Yeah. It's grim. Oh, yeah. What was the San Francisco one called?

Mike Mitchell

It sounded like it was in the avengers or something. Yeah, it was like Golden State Capitol or something. Yeah. Yeah. I turned to school lunches a lot, but in the early days, cheez it gushers.

Those are the big ones. Yeah. I was never into gushers, but I did like Cheez. It was absolutely a staple. You know, cheetos like, if I'm gonna get, like, a bag of chips, I loved the cheetos.

That's funny because even, like, people would rather give me Cheez its. But, like, when you got cool ranch Doritos or nacho, so good. Nacho cheese doritos. Oh, yeah. You were in, I mean, you were king of the schoolyard at that point.

Nick Weiger

I would for a lot of times, for, like, a sweet treat, I would very often get like a zinger or like a hostess treat, like a one off. And it's kind of crazy in Heinz. A Heinz, it's like a, it's basically like a Twinkie, but frosted. Oh, yeah. Oh, I get ding dongs.

Mike Mitchell

Good. Sometimes I get ding dongs. I get, I get hostess cupcakes. And I would get a snowball on occasion. The hostess snowball.

Nick Weiger

I remember those. They were, it's like a pink half dome that's covered in shredded coconut. It's quite toothsome. I think that chocolate inside and a. Little bit of cream means, like, handsome, right?

Avital Ash

Like, attractive. Does it? I think so. Or does it just mean taste?

Mike Mitchell

I think I've gotten to the bottom of why we were little fat fucks. Yeah. I would do all that and they would have a full sugar soda, like a fucking cactus cooler or a doctor pepper. Doughboy's detectives. I remember we got a fruitopia machine, and young me was like, fruitopia?

That's like, like healthier than soda. And if fruitopia had, like, no, so much more. 300 calories or something. Yeah, tons of sugar. That was a Bill Clinton initiative, is that he got like, let's get some.

Fruitopia machines in there. He was, he got rid of, like, full sugar sodas in schools and, like, like, made it so it's like they're all selling like, bottled water and juices and stuff. But, yeah, a lot of the juices are just as unhealthy. Yeah. By the way, just in case you were wondering, first definition of toothsome of food, temptingly tasty and then informal of a person, good looking, attractive.

Nick Weiger

Wow. Now we know. And then parentheses, Dracula. Dracula was toothsome. Dracula is very true, too.

Avital Ash

Yeah. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us@feedbackirdfuck.com or leave us a voicemail at eight 30 godot. That's 830-4636 and to get the Doughboys double our weekly bonus episode, plus our entire pre 2018 back catalog, subscribe@patreon.com doughboys. Our producer is Emma ERd Brink. Our associate producers Emilia Marino.

Nick Weiger

Our engineer is Casey Donahue, and our video editor is Mike Dorfman. As I say, drop us a line if you think Dracula was handsome or not too. So which version? Cause, like, nosferatu. No, nosferatu is nasty.

The Gary Oldman, Bram Stoker's Dracula. Francisco Coppola. Dracula. You think he's toothsome? I think he's kind of weird looking with the big hair.

Avital Ash

I guess I haven't seen him. Just picturing Gary Oldman. Gary Oldman's handsome. Yeah, but I think that. I think the weird big hair thing he's got look, I don't know, it doesn't quite work for me.

I'm thinking of others, but they're just vampires. They're not Dracula. I'll tell you one last handsome. That's Dracula. Dracula.

Mike Mitchell

Dead and loving it. Handsome. Leslie Nielsen. Leslie Nielsen. Looking good.

He's looking good. Yeah. Yeah. Would you count Lestat? Toothsome, but not Dracula.

Nick Weiger

Well, he is a Dracula, but it's not the Dracula. Can you be a Dracula? I thought you could be a vampire or the Dracula, but maybe you can be a Dracula. You can be a Dracula. Yeah.

Avital Ash

I'm in the back of my Dracula. Our guest, Avital Ash will be in Los Angeles April 27. And if you're listening to this episode on Thursday, that means on Saturday, go see her do stand up. Also in London, Edinburgh and Glasgow. Avid.

Nick Weiger

I'll plug your dates and anything else you want to mention. And thanks for doing the show. Thank you so much for having me. I will clarify that it's a solo show, so it is stand up, but it's also got some feelings and it's very dark. It's called Avital Ash workshops for suicide note, which is a trigger warning, hopefully.

Avital Ash

And we have a sold out show in LA on the 30th, if you listen to this. Too late. But there will be a standby line, so chances are maybe you can come in and then if you're in New York, I might add a date coming back from the UK. So go to avitalash.com. You can subscribe for updates or just keep checking in as I add some dates.

Yeah. And if you're in the UK, I'm doing three shows in London, one in Glasgow, one in Edinburgh. I got an idea for your opener in Edinburgh. Oh, let's go jacking off through the years. The Mike Mitchell story.

You want to come? That'd be awesome. That'd be so fun. There it was January 6 at the Capitol. Lucky for me, the urge and Nancy.

Nick Weiger

Pelosi's trash can was right there. Also, will they even understand it? Like, I don't know how. They definitely are like more up on the news in generally than americans are. But do they know?

Avital Ash

Does January 6 mean. Oh, that's interesting question. Yeah, the dates may not hit in the same way. Maybe they do. They're smarter than us.

I think that's true. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, hey, if you're in Scotland and know what January 6 was, let us know. Also let us know if Dracula was handsome.

Nick Weiger

And also let us know if you want to see Mitchell do an hour about jacking off. Yes, I do. Until next time for the Spoon man, Mike Mitchell. I'm Nick Weiger. Happy eating.

Mike Mitchell

See ya.

Nick Weiger

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Avital Ash

That was a headgum podcast.

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