Buffalo Wild Wings 3 with Johnny Pemberton

Primary Topic

This episode delves into the history and cultural impact of Buffalo Wild Wings, intertwined with the infamous Tonya Harding-Nancy Kerrigan scandal, highlighting the chain's founder's unexpected connection to the scandal.

Episode Summary

In this engaging podcast episode, hosts Nick Wiger and Mike Mitchell explore the intriguing backstory of Buffalo Wild Wings through the lens of a scandal involving figure skater Nancy Kerrigan and her rival Tonya Harding. The episode reveals that James Disbrow, the chain's co-founder, was also the USFSA chairman who managed Kerrigan's crisis during the 1994 Olympics. The hosts discuss how Disbrow's crisis management skills in the scandal were significant, yet his greatest feat was founding the popular restaurant chain. The narrative transitions into a broader discussion on the evolution of Buffalo Wild Wings, touching upon its cultural significance and the role of chain restaurants in American dining.

Main Takeaways

  1. James Disbrow, co-founder of Buffalo Wild Wings, played a crucial role in managing the Nancy Kerrigan assault crisis.
  2. Disbrow leveraged his crisis management experience to build Buffalo Wild Wings into a successful national chain.
  3. The episode highlights the cultural and historical significance of chain restaurants in America.
  4. Buffalo Wild Wings has contributed to popularizing chicken wings as a staple in American cuisine.
  5. The discussion also covers broader trends in the restaurant industry, particularly the challenges faced by chain restaurants in the modern economy.

Episode Chapters

1: Introduction

The hosts introduce the episode's theme and outline the connection between Buffalo Wild Wings and the Tonya Harding-Nancy Kerrigan scandal. Nick Wiger: "Today we explore an unexpected link between a sports scandal and a popular chain restaurant."

2: The Scandal and Its Management

A detailed account of the Kerrigan-Harding incident, emphasizing James Disbrow's role. Mike Mitchell: "Disbrow's handling of the Kerrigan crisis shows his adeptness in crisis management, crucial later for his business ventures."

3: The Rise of Buffalo Wild Wings

Discussion on the founding and expansion of Buffalo Wild Wings, analyzing its impact on American dining culture. Nick Wiger: "From a simple idea born out of necessity, Buffalo Wild Wings grew into a staple of American casual dining."

4: Current Challenges

The hosts debate the current state and future of chain restaurants, with specific references to the pandemic's impact. Mike Mitchell: "Chain restaurants, including Buffalo Wild Wings, face significant challenges in today's economy."

Actionable Advice

  1. Explore the history and background of your favorite chain restaurants to appreciate their cultural significance.
  2. Consider the impact of management and leadership in the success of business ventures.
  3. Reflect on how personal experiences and skills can influence professional success.
  4. Stay informed about the challenges facing the restaurant industry, especially during economic downturns.
  5. Support local and national chain restaurants to preserve an important aspect of culinary culture.

About This Episode

Johnny Pemberton (@johnny_pemberton, JohnnyPemberton.dog) joins the 'boys to talk video games, health, and bidets before a review of Buffalo Wild Wings. Plus, another edition of Slop Quiz.

People

James Disbrow, Tonya Harding, Nancy Kerrigan

Companies

Buffalo Wild Wings

Books

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Transcript

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This was James Disbrow, chairman of the US figure Skating Association's international committee, in a February 2 statement that cleared Nancy Kerrigan to compete in the 1994 Winter Olympics. On January 12, a male assailant had struck Kerrigan on the leg with a police baton as she departed practice. The attempt had been on her landing knee, but the attacker mistakenly hit her thigh, sparing her, the career ending injury allegedly intended. Two days later, the suspect, Shane Stant, surrendered to the FBI, and the ensuing investigation quickly centered on Kerrigan's chief figure skating adversary, fellow US Olympic team member Tonya Harding. While Harding was never proved to have advanced knowledge of the attack, her husband, Jeff Gillooly and security guard Shawn Eckerd admitted to hiring Stanton as uncle to debilitate Kerrigan to advance Harding's career.

Kerrigan would persevere and win the silver medal at that years Lillyhammer Games, while Harding, still permitted to compete, placed 8th. Later, after Harding invested taking part in the coverup, though not the crime, USFSA international committee chairman Dispro banned her from the sport for life, an ignominious end to an otherwise accomplished career. But dispros, capable crisis management of the most notorious scandal in ice skating history while the whole world watched may only be his second biggest accomplishment because he's also the founder, along with partner Scott Lowery, of a Buffalo wing focused chain restaurant with nearly 1300 us locations. In 1981, Disbrow, who had previously lived in Buffalo, New York, was judging an ice skating competition at Ohio's Kent State University when he and friend Lowry noticed an inability to get quality wings in the area. The next year, they launched a wing joint concept, Savile, positioning the eatery near the Ohio State University.

Their deep fried bird collab would grow to massive scale over the next four decades, helping to expedite the rise of the chicken wing as a national cuisine. In recent years, the Tanya harding scandal has resurfaced via dueling documentary series and the bizarrely cast and painfully unsubtle film I, Tonya. And an ineffective fictionalization of a much more interesting factual reality. So much more interesting, in fact, that a central figure in the scandal was also the founder of Buffalo Wild Wings. This week on doughboys, we return once again to b dubs.

Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. That's a scary site. You. I was trying to do a thing. So for our audio listeners, I'm pointing my thumb and forefinger at the camera.

Mike Mitchell

What is that? What is the movie where the person does that? It is like kind of. Taxi driver is a taxi driver. Yeah, probably taxi driver.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah. What I'm thinking. You're talking to me. I'm saying, I'm saying. Isn't there.

Mike Mitchell

Isn't there another one where, like, is it like, a creepy guy who does that? And, like, those cool little. Yeah. Taxi driver. Taxi driver.

Taxi driver. Taxi driver. Yeah. May I ask again, welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co host, bowels moving asshole, the Spoon man, Mike Mitchell.

That works today. Fitting for today's topic. That's from Sawn H, pronounced sawn. Hey, doughboys. After hearing the recent my neighbor Totoro roast.

Nick Wiger

Do you remember that? Yes, I think I do. I don't know. Do you remember what it was? It's like, slower.

Mike Mitchell

Totoro or something. My neighbor Dotoro, some shit like that. Yeah, I think the one was comparing me to, like, totoro. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, well, I mean, I like totoro.

It's probably pretty nice, honestly, compared to. It's a great comparison. Yeah. He's a very lovable figure. My coworker and I came up with some more Miyazaki inspired roasts, and it's the dumbest thing we've ever done.

Nick Wiger

Shout out to Steven Andrews for co writing these. Yeah, you gotta shout out your co writer for bowels moving asshole. That was definitely a co writer. That was definitely a collab. All right, here are a few more.

Mike Mitchell

It's like how Marvel movies are written by, like, five people. This roast is written by two guys or two people. I don't know who it is. I've done some punch up on some movies, and you get a letter from the WGA with all the people who worked on it. Just please stop doing what you're doing.

Nick Wiger

No, it's funny. Because you'll get like this. We're working on a movie, and it's just like, this is a comedy that sucks that no one likes. And then there are like 36 writers who have all worked on this movie, and then ultimately the only people who get credited are like two or three people, but, like, so many people took a pass at this thing and it just sucks. So a waste of everyone's time as these roasts are bowels.

Mike Mitchell

Moving out that way about disaster movie. Man, I wish I worked on disaster movie. I would love to work on a spoof movie, given the honor. That's like a fair game for anything. Spoof movie.

Nick Wiger

Yeah, yeah. Just a punch. It's all punch up. It's all punch up. It's all jokes.

Used to be, should I, should I read these alts? They took the spoof movies away from us wise. They don't even exist. They don't make them anymore. Well, you know why?

Johnny Pemberton

You can't make that? You can't make that anymore. You can't make a. Can't spoof things anymore. Yeah, you can't spoof.

Nick Wiger

You can't. You can't do it anymore. Epic movie. Can never make that today. No, no, vampires suck.

Johnny Pemberton

Couldn't make it. Yeah, never make that. Apocalypse now. Never make that today. They're actually are making the remaking it.

Nick Wiger

Oh, they are remaking it. Yeah. No, that's what he's saying. He's saying apocalypse now. You can easily remake it.

Oh, that one you can remake scary movie. No way. Scary movie. No, you can't make that today. But like, not another apocalypse now you could not make today.

Cause that's the spoof of Apocalypse now. Yeah, well, it doesn't exist. You should. I mean, I'm saying not Apocalypse now. You should bake.

Yeah, I could. I mean, if it was made back. In the day, I could make it. You couldn't make it now. Okay, wait, so the rule is so I can make it?

Mike Mitchell

No, you couldn't make knock. You couldn't do it. Apocalypse then. That's good. That is good.

See, these movies are all punch up wives. They had a bunch of. Bunch of alts here. Spirited, mcKay. Like, spirited away.

Okay, spirit mcKay. What is what like? I think it's supposed to be like. It's supposed to be like Mickey. Like the spirited make, like a reference.

That's a deep cut. That should have come later. That should have come later. Yeah, well, we don't know if the. Ones after this are worse.

Nick Wiger

Squint chess Mononoke for Princess Mononoke. Okay. Yeah, no, I think it maybe came in the right spot. Rascal in the sty for Castle in the sky. I don't know why you don't just do asshole again there.

Mike Mitchell

I don't know why you would listen. Bowels. Oh, I get it now. I just got it as I was. I was trying to write one.

Johnny Pemberton

I was like, oh, bowels moving. It should have been just, yeah, I guess bowels moving asshole is the right thing. Howls. Bowels moving. Asshole off of Howl's moving castle.

Nick Wiger

Was that. That is correct. You did a good job with that one. I think. Maybe just don't show your.

Mike Mitchell

That is correct. Send all the alts. Yeah, no one wants to see the altselects.

Look, a DVD. The bonus features on a DVD. I like seeing what else they got. But in this scenario, I don't want to see the. Should we paywall?

Nick Wiger

Just this chunk of the episode. Just the alternate roasts go on. Patreon only. Roastirdfuck.com dot why is a bit of. Tummy trouble this morning?

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, and a bit of. I've been dealing with some. I've been since, like, October. I got sick, and I was, like, sick how? I got, like, what felt like a flu or cold, and I tested negative for COVID.

And then I told people on here where I was, you got something on your tooth. I ate an apple just before we started. I got, like, some apple. He's got something, too. That seems like.

Nick Wiger

Yeah, no, I was trying to work on it while I knew we were in your single, so I was like. Okay, I'm off camera. I saw you tongue in that corner of your. Of your. You couldn't finish the monologue, though.

Mike Mitchell

I could have. I couldn't finish my monologue. Sorry for distracting you. This is like if Jay Leno was going and Kevin was over there and he's picking his tooth. You know what I mean?

Like, Jay's gonna check Kevin. Jay should know better to not talk Kevin. Cause he's picking. He's recognizing it. He's like, okay, I'm gonna keep the camera on me.

Johnny Pemberton

Keep talking. Okay. Kevin's like, okay. Kevin's like, oh, so in the news right now, a lot of people are pissed about the weather. They're angry about the weather.

And we're back to Kevin. Back to Kevin. Oh, that's crazy. Jay. Oh, wow.

Kevin, what do you think about the weather? Kevin? Oh, oh, you know. Oh. I think in Jay Leno's mind, he's probably like, Kevin, did something happen at the baked potato, where he performs, you know, Kevin will play at the baked potato.

Mike Mitchell

Kevin will. Kevin. Kevin is. Kevin is a good musician. He is an amazing musician.

Nick Wiger

He's a phenomenal jazz guitarist. He's a. What you call a professional musician. Yeah. That's the thing of the Tonight show.

Johnny Pemberton

Funny if he was bad. Yeah. We just like him so much. He's not the best. No.

Nick Wiger

Him and Renford Marsalis before him is the Jay Leno band leaders. Incredibly accomplished jazz musicians. Kevin's country, we've talked about. We like Kevin's country. Love Kevin's country.

Johnny Pemberton

Kevin's country. Kevin's country's.

Nick Wiger

When Leno ended, so Leto went, you. Weren'T a Leno guy. Do you not watch Leno? Do you watch Letterman instead of Leno? I'm a letterman guy.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah. That's crazy. I was more of a letterman. Most comedians out here are Leno guys. Oh, really?

Nick Wiger

Okay, Mitch, play your drop so we can introduce our guest officially. Emma, hit him with a drop. You know what? 2024. No.

Mike Mitchell

Come talk. Come, come.

Quincy. No peeking. What the hell, Quincy, no peeking. What the hell? Mister Spikes.

Mister Spikes.

Dear Lord. Little final fantasy seven there. Yes. Little one winged angel. One spooned angel.

Nick Wiger

Wow. Fantasy seven. Yeah. That's the music, right? Yeah.

Yeah. We're hitting anime. We're hitting video games very weebly to start the show. What's Weebly mean? Oh, you don't know what that means?

Mike Mitchell

What's Weebee? Is that a new word, I think. It'S not a new word. It's been around for a bit. Just someone who's like.

Nick Wiger

Really? Yeah. It's a. It's. It's kind of like a westerner who's, like, a little too into, like, japanese culture.

Mike Mitchell

So it's not. It's not like Cheugy? Cheugy's new. Cheugy, I think, is new. Yeah.

Nick Wiger

Cheugy is its own thing. Or a weeb. Is that weeb? Yeah. Weeb.

Johnny Pemberton

Right? Yeah. Weeb. Yeah. Like, you're a freaking weeb.

Nick Wiger

You like. You like anime and manga and video games, you know? Got it. I don't know if I've ever heard that term. Truly.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah. Well, there you go. We bae a character on the wire. Remember Weebay? I do like we bey.

Mike Mitchell

Weebay's good character. Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember we bay from the wire? No, I only watched the first season.

Yeah. I gotta watch it. I gotta. I gotta watch it. People tell me I gotta watch.

We don't want to be those guys that you gotta say, you gotta watch it. But wise, you gotta watch. I was gonna say you did. You know, you see the first, you get it. Like, what the hell?

Nick Wiger

It's good tv. It's excellent tv. I would say treat yourself and watch the wire because it's a great show. But, like, if you've seen the first season, the wire, you know what the wire is? You have a sense wires up there for me with mad men and.

Mike Mitchell

And sopranos. Sopranos, to me is. Yeah, that was s tier. That's number one. Yeah.

Johnny Pemberton

That's the greatest thing ever made, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Movies included. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

Honestly, I love it. Did you credit the dropper? Hi, DK. Hey, DK and Mitch. Okay.

Just the two of us saying hello to. It's been roughly one month since Finals Fantasy seven Rebirth came out in roughly two months since the episode. Mitch said, no, come talk in 2024 with come talk at an all time high. I'm just reading the email. Made a mashup of the two in honor of the one spooned angel, Mister Slice.

Enjoy. Thomas Lee. Ten tickles in the discord. Thanks, Thomas drops@birdfuck.com. Dot.

Nick Wiger

By the way, didn't I specifically solicit a roast on a previous episode, or a drop, rather, on a previous episode? I was like, hey, make this into a drop. Yeah, I think you did. Have we gotten that drop yet? I don't know if people really listen to you in that way.

It was an episode that's out, right? Yeah, no, it's out. But also, like, that's such an easy way to get a drop play. Yeah, get your drop. Lazy dropper.

Johnny Pemberton

Why? You're literally handed it to you. Whatever makes it a hate. Lazy drop. You could absolutely drop.

Mike Mitchell

You could make a drop if you wanted to. I'll make you one. I would love to have a celeb drop on the show. That would be. I'll do it.

Johnny Pemberton

I'll make a drop. Wow. I'll do it. Wow. It's funny because I felt bad as you were sitting through the drop.

Mike Mitchell

I felt bad. And you're a comedian who gets. I'm a come guy. You're a come guy. Yeah.

Johnny Pemberton

I've worked at what come for years, so it's not a big deal for me. And even then you felt bad. Even. I felt bad even for. After all of that.

Yeah, we come up together. Yeah, we've come up together. We come up together. We come up with all kinds of things. Our guest today, an actor and a comedian who you can see as Thaddeus in the new series fallout.

Mike Mitchell

Wow. Now streaming today, April 11 as of episode release on Amazon Prime. Johnny Pemberton is back. Johnny, thanks for being here. Thanks for having me back here.

Nick Wiger

What a treat. What a dream. Is that the premiere is the 11th? Is that it's out today? Yeah, yeah.

Johnny Pemberton

All episodes too. Pretty good on our end. We're usually really bad with that. I think this is great. Dime down nicely.

Mike Mitchell

I just. I'm happy for us that we did an okay job. Sorry. You guys definitely did it. We did it.

Nick Wiger

We did it. It was definitely you and not tons of emails.

Wait, where did your shoot fallout? We shot it mostly in New York. Okay. We also went to Namibia for a couple weeks. Whoa.

Mike Mitchell

Whoa. To Utah for a couple weeks. Whoa. Yeah. Utah can be beautiful, right?

Yeah. But we were in this place called West Wendover, which is 2 hours east of. Towards west of Salt Lake. Okay. It is a bad spot.

We went to Salt Lake city and I thought Salt lake city was nice, but 2 hours outside of Salt lake. City, but you drive through literally nothing. You drive on a road that. It's like, you know when people say, gotta go to the bathroom now. Cause you don't have to stop.

Johnny Pemberton

There's no place to stop. There's not a single place to stop at all for like 2 hours as you're driving through these salt flats. Damn. Yeah. That's the whole point, though.

It's supposed to look apocalyptic. Sure. If you need some salt, though. Yeah, it's right there. It's right there.

Nick Wiger

You know, you pocket for it up off the ground. It sounds like a great part of the country to listen to Kevin's country as you're driving too. You've already said you don't. You don't know this. It was the end of the show song before Conan.

Mike Mitchell

So sometimes you catch the end of it before Conan. I'm guessing you, like, you were a Conan where you let him in and then switched over to Conan guy. I was both. I don't think I watched him maybe on air all the time. Yeah, I definitely watched Conan.

Johnny Pemberton

I. Conan was like, you know, Conan's like your friends. Yeah. Watch it with your friends. Because my parents don't watch Conan.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. What? We watch Conan because it's like. Was the coolest thing ever. So I don't remember exactly.

Johnny Pemberton

That was so long ago. Yeah, I know. My mom. My mom and dad. Yeah, they didn't.

Mike Mitchell

I don't think they watched Conan either, but they went to a taping with me. I was pissed that they wouldn't watch Conan. I was pissed they didn't like the stuff I liked. You know what I mean? That sucks, man.

Johnny Pemberton

It sucks when your parents don't like the same things you do. I know that's all you want as a kid. I feel like the opposite. Like, my parents like something. Like, I don't like that anymore.

Nick Wiger

Right? I'll be like, ma, Pam Anderson. Isn't she hot? And my mom would be like, she's okay. I was like, what the fuck?

Mike Mitchell

She doesn't make you want to jack off. And my mom just wasn't. I prefer Sophia Lorenz. Heidi Klune.

First of all, another friend of the show. Yes. Zach Cherry is in this show. Yeah, Zach and I did a show together too. Zach and I, whole season of a show.

Nick Wiger

Wow. That nobody really saw. But it was an NBC show. Yeah. That's wild.

You wanna shout it out? I feel bad. That's what it's called. I feel bad. Yeah.

Johnny Pemberton

It was a fun little show, though. It was good. I'm very excited for. I'm very excited to watch the show. I can't wait to see.

Nick Wiger

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were talking a little bit about the fallout games before Mitch arrived. And I know you kind of, like, get with these kind of open world games with just, like, it sounds like you kind of get overwhelmed by the aspect of, like, you just can't go anywhere and pick up anything. The collecting, like, having to manage, like, a backpack or a purse or, like, when you have items. I always have trouble with any games where you have tons of items.

Johnny Pemberton

I get, like, I don't want to throw something away. I don't want to hold on to it. Yeah, I have trouble with those games for sure. And then you're in the end game, and I've got, well, I've got, like, you know, 200 high potions I never use. Like, I'm fighting the final boss.

Mike Mitchell

This was. What did I do any of this for? Yeah, I've gotten better at. And a lot of this was via Baldur's gate three. It.

Nick Wiger

But, like, you know, but other games I played in recent years, I'm just like, you know what? I get a consumable. I'm just gonna fucking use it, right? I'm not gonna hoard all my fire arrows. I can just shoot a goblin with a fire arrow.

Mike Mitchell

You know? You've been training this podcast quite a bit, like, get played recently, your video game podcast. Oh, wow. I don't think I've ever been so concerned about your digital clutter in a fucking video game. I got too many potions in my back.

Nick Wiger

You play video games, Mitch, and you're also a guy who's obsessive about being a completionist, so you're included in this conversation. What games do you like those type of games, though? I do. I like fallout and also fallout. Got to give it credit here.

Mike Mitchell

Visits Quincy, Massachusetts. Right? Right. Yeah. There's a section of fallout that goes to Quincy.

Johnny Pemberton

What's that say about Quincy? I think that it's what a. How could a beautiful city fall into such disrepair? Like, right, yeah, it's definitely that. Right, that's like.

Nick Wiger

Cause there's all these mutants in the fallout universe and they get to this one block of Quincy's there. Now they get this one block of Quincy in this one house and they're like, oh, this basement has a cum golem.

Johnny Pemberton

How are these mutants so mutated? Wow. What's wrong with them? They're so mutated more than other ones. Oh, they're drinking the cum.

They're drinking all this basement cum. Vast reservoir of cum. First of all, if I had a crim golem. Crim is the word we're using in place of cum because we said come so much. I'm not sure how I feel about crim.

Mike Mitchell

You like crema? Crim I think is creme. I like any word that is not the word. Yeah, like I used to try. I used to say the word jazz instead of jizz.

Johnny Pemberton

That I like that. Yeah. All right, maybe I'll go with jazz. You go with jazz. Oh my God, I'm covered in jazz.

I'm about to jazz all over the place. Oh, Kevin, what's going on over there? Looks like you're about to jazz. Can you guys guess? You might jazz on your shit.

I like how Jlo has become butters or something like that. It's Timmy, right? Timmy. Timmy. Yeah, yeah, Timmy Leno.

You got a little bit of jazz.

Mike Mitchell

You guys hear about cotman? Have you heard about Cotman? Jazzy car. By the way. Wait, do I what?

Nick Wiger

No, when you play one of these games, you hoard stuff, I imagine. I do hoard stuff. You cannot do it. But I was gonna say, when you said I called jizz jazz, I immediately thought of the Star wars music. Jizz, sure.

Johnny Pemberton

What? So I thought you were in Star wars. There's music that's like jazz. The most likely cantina. No way.

It's not. No, it's the truth. It's called jizz. It is in the Star wars encyclopedia, which I had as a kid. The music that the modal nodes was the band in the cantina plays.

Nick Wiger

Exactly. Yeah, that's a jizz band. It's called jizz. And I've told this story on the podcast before. It is.

It is canonically jizz. Didn't someone, like, slip that in there and no one bothered to check? Probably George Lucas was like, that sound. Jizz sounds right. I like to jizz.

Mike Mitchell

I think it should be jizz. You see, there's a called jizz Jar Binks.

And people are like, you're going, like, overboard. Jizz jar spunk. This is Jizz jar spunk. God, I can't believe that. I've told the story on the podcast before, but there was a kid in my middle school band and orchestra got sweatshirts, and you got to write something custom.

Nick Wiger

So I'd get my hooded sweatshirt, and it'd say Nick Clarinet. And this one kid who was into Star wars got his and was like, oh, like the music. And so he got one that said Steven Jizzwaler. And he had that on a school sweatshirt, which is the term, the canonical name. If you play the style of jizz, you are a jizz wailer.

Johnny Pemberton

This is, like, way too. I love Steven. I love George Lucas now. Yeah, like, jizz wailer. Yeah, that's like, I wouldn't come up with that name in a million years.

Jizz whaler. Right. By the way, I told you I saw the whale sequel, whale rider the other day. Goes in a different direction. Goes in a different direction.

Mike Mitchell

We love the Brendan Frasier movie the Whale. I love. You see it where he jacks off. He's kind of a jizz wailer himself. He is a jizz wailer himself.

Johnny Pemberton

He is the original shy halood.

Mike Mitchell

You know, you said we were talking about before gets here, I gotta. You know what? That's the medicine I get. Because I was. I was close to 20 minutes.

I was 20 minutes late. Yeah, I was dealing with some. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were. You were Mitch.

I was dealing with some tummy troubles. Yeah. Last night. So I've been sick since. Since.

Since I got sick in October. Okay. I'm starting to figure out that I think that it's very sinus related wise on that end. Interesting. Yeah.

And so I may get a sinus surgery. I don't know. Wow. So that. Yeah.

But, like, I have, like, heavy brain fog every day. It's been, like, bad. It sucks. But a lot of times, the two things that they say is your stomach or your head. But the issue is I also have stomach issues.

Those are. When you say stomach, do you mean bowels? Or do you mean stomach? Stomach, like, which I know we share this in common. It's very much.

It's like a very much an IB's sort of scenario, which is like, when I've gone to the doctor. That's what they've said. I mean, this is disgusting, but, like, so suddenly, I have to go to the bathroom every summer. Yeah, sure. Diarrhea.

Yeah, oftentimes it will. Oftentimes it will manifest itself as that. Yes, it will manifest itself. Shy halood will manifest itself as diarrhea. By the way, before we go get further into this disgusting topic, it was very cute.

Nick Wiger

Cause Jemmy was waiting for you. She, like, hopped up next to your regular spot before Uncle Mitch arrived. That's like. It's that sort of thing of, like, if I died, it's like Jimmy kept sitting in that chair every day even though he was gone. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

You know what I mean? I mean, other podcasts are recording in here. What the fuck is this, dog? What are you talking about? It just feels good.

You would replace me with some. I mean, I'm sure Gabris or somebody would be in this chair. I mean, the joker would be in that chair. Yeah. It would just be Jimmy.

Nick Wiger

Jimmy would be co hosting. No, the joke I'd make is, like, I could swap out someone in a heartbeat. No one would notice. But that's not the truth. If you were not around to do the podcast, we wouldn't do the podcast.

Mike Mitchell

It's very funny. A thing that our listeners do, which they don't do with you as much, is that they're like. They'll be like, who would be the replacement for Mitch if he left? Don't anticipate Mitch's death. Yeah, don't wait for me to.

Don't be. Or maybe they're saying your acting career would be so. You'd be such a busy actor. Oh, yes. Oh, my God.

Oh, that's. I know. That scenario is very likely. You're right. Some scenario where you're thriving.

Sure, sure. You can never be too busy for a podcast, though. That is kind of how I feel. That's the unfortunate thing. That's what Jason Bateman has taught us.

Lessons from smart lists. One of the many lessons of smart list is you can never. You cannot. You can never be too. I think that is.

I think that is. I think that's true. I think that is true. Okay, so. So we talked about this last time you were on the podcast, but, like.

Nick Wiger

And you can say exactly what your condition is, whatever you want to share about it. But you have some gut issues of your own. Yeah, I had an ulcerative colitis for years, and I had my colon removed about 20 years ago. That's right. And now I have pouchitis, extension pouchitis, which is essentially just ulcerative colitis of the j pouch, which is, like, sort of the internal.

Johnny Pemberton

I mean, it's a long story, essentially, but, yeah, I don't have anything. Anything. I'm complete now. I'm like, you know, I'm all. I poop out of my asshole.

There you go. Hey. There you go. That's pretty great. Nothing inside of me that is.

That is not flesh. Hey. Okay, so I don't have, like, any appliances or anything like that, but, uh, can you see? I did have a colostomy bag for a few months. Wow.

Nick Wiger

You did? Yeah. For what? Cause there's two surgeries. That's wild.

Johnny Pemberton

You have a two part surgery. I talk about this a lot in my show, Minnesota reggae colostomy bag, which I've been doing on and off, but, uh, yeah, I had a clasp me bag for about three months, I guess because it's a two part surgery. So you have. You have to heal up while this thing inside you, the j pouch, heals. While that heals, you have to have.

You have to have the clasp bag, so. Got it. Yeah. So, you know, I've. I can't even imagine you've been through the ring?

Mike Mitchell

Cause I can't. When it's hellish for me, it's extremely hellish, and I can't even imagine. Cause that seems. Well, you have ib's. It's different.

Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. So ib's is irritable bowel syndrome, and I had something called ulcerative colitis, which is considered an inflammatory bowel disease.

Johnny Pemberton

IBD. Got it. So there are different ib's is. I mean, not to belittle your problem. No.

It's typically related to stress or allergies and not so much like an endemic disease type thing. Allergies, again, is very interesting if that's what's causing it. I mean, allergies, it could be, like, you need to stop eating dairy. It could be, like, a weird thing that your body doesn't like, and you don't know it until you do, like, a super reductive diet, which is, you know, the smartest thing in the world, elimination diet. And just imagine, like, just hypothetically, let's say the person who's suffering from this condition hosts a fast food podcast.

I can't imagine how you possibly have ib's I just, you know, it's one of those things where there's no Venn diagram where those intersect because they are overlapping completely. That's why it is, it is like in my mind I'm like, you have. And when it would be torturous for me, I remember bug Main, you know. Yes. Our friend Bug Maine, we were pitching a show, me and bug main.

Nick Wiger

Yeah. Jack and Ehrman is bug Main shall not be known. Is that, is it still, I mean, I think people know, you know, if. You know, you know, you know, if. You want the true heads, you know.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, that people, people for sure know. But people will still be like, it's Armin, you know, they'll say it's armor and I'm saying like Bugman and arm and, but yeah, we. What is that? I mean, are you kind of doing, are you doing an Andy Kaufman Zamouda thing there? Right?

Yes. Andrew Wk kind of thing? Yeah. Yes. Well, again, the real ones.

Now bug man does like to party. Isn't that what Andrew WK is all about? Well, which Andrew WK? That's a good question. Great question.

Look, even I confused. Even, even I confused. Am even I confused right now? Yeah. What did you just say?

Even I confused right now.

Johnny Pemberton

Why? I don't know why I not know this.

Mike Mitchell

We would be pitching. We would be. I remember we were like going to like some agency to pitch this show that we. The bullshit that is horrible and I don't even do anymore. But we went to this place and I like was an IB's moment where we were in the car driving there.

Johnny Pemberton

Oh for sure. Cuz you're nervous and. Oh yeah, there was some nerves and I honestly though, it wasn't even like, I like, I wasn't that nervous about it. But I think that. But your body's, your body's body.

Yeah, it's like, well keep going. Well I'll explain it. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was driving there and I was like, oh God. And I like felt it coming on and it was the sort of thing where they'd be like, do you want anything? I'd be like, shut up, just don't talk to me.

Mike Mitchell

And then I got there and I had to like run upstairs like into this big agency and there are all these people and I was like, hi, how are you? Where was the bathroom when I went in and like I shit my brains out. It was, it was, it was horrifying. It was so good after that I felt great. I mean you should have seen me in that pitch.

I was going left and right and singing jokes, getting up, walking around the table. But right beforehand, I was a sweaty mess. Yeah. It's a diarrhea boost.

Sometimes it does boost you once you're done, once you get it out of you. It does feel like a. I do feel like that's where I felt the most. Like a power up in a video game is after something like that's happened. Yeah, that's a power up.

Johnny Pemberton

That's an often unused power up is. Would you like to diarrhea now?

Nick Wiger

Not enough games have pissing and shitting. Let's be honest. Press b to diarrhea now for a health boost. I think a lot of games don't have enough pissing and shitting. Zelda, you eat, you sleep.

Yeah. You're never. You're not gonna. You're not gonna see, you know, Link's. Pissing and shitting is implied.

It's off. Cat, you save your game and power off your switch. That's when he's, like, taking a very. Oh, boy. Take a big old shit.

Johnny Pemberton

Or is that what it means to be an elf, is you take one shit once a year. One, like, just incredibly cosmically dense shit. That's where you go on your sojourn or something like that, is to drop this mega. Like. It's like a black hole that comes out of you.

Mike Mitchell

And if you're playing for 14 hours straight or something. He's been holding it the whole time. He's been holding it the whole time. He's having a battle. Octoroks.

Yeah. You know, some sort he picked up. Let's. Let's. So.

Okay, so let's stop talking about shit. Let's stop talking about shit. Let's talk about video games. Let's stop talking about cum, or jazz, as I like to call it now. Before we stop talking about shit.

Nick Wiger

Yeah. What's your favorite color? Shit. I'll go with green. It's the funniest one.

Johnny Pemberton

Ooh. I think you just want a nice brown shit. Yeah, I mean, that's what you want. You want, like, a nice brown favorite one. Like a nice brown shit.

Mike Mitchell

Okay. Okay. Taupe. Taupe is fun. Taupe's good.

Tope is a. That's maybe the chalky taupe. Chalky. I want, like, a shit that looks like it could be, like, you could make an executive's desk out of it. You know what I mean?

Nick Wiger

It's like that nice, like, rich. Like a mahogany. Yeah, like a mahogany. Like some. Some veining, some prominent veins.

Johnny Pemberton

That show. That show the character of the tree. Exactly. Right, right. Some history.

Mike Mitchell

So you want almost like one that's like you're not even, like, fully hydrated. You want one that's like, kind of like you're half hydrated. I mean, I think I want it to feel healthy. Like, it's like, oh, this was like a healthy expungement. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Johnny Pemberton

Ooh, expungement. That's a good word. That's a good word. It is a good word. I haven't used it in a while.

Expungement also. Is it a word? It is now. It is. I think it works for me.

I say SpongeBob binds America.

Nick Wiger

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Johnny Pemberton

Yeah, it was a mistake. It was almost immediately a mistake. When I was ordering, I was like, oh, God. When it came out, I was like, oh, this isn't good. This is, like, gonna be rough.

Nick Wiger

Why did you choose Buffalo Wildway? Because I think I thought it'd be fun. Yeah, sure. It's kind of funny. I guess I took.

Mike Mitchell

It is funny. It is funny now. You forget. You make a mistake. Like, you say yes to something and you do the thing like, oh, I don't want to do this.

Johnny Pemberton

But you forget. And so you do it once a year. You make a mistake, like saying yes to some sort of thing you don't want to do. Yeah, I feel like that's what happened with this, where I forgot that ironic eating is not very fun, especially at my age. Oh, yeah.

Like being here is. It would be fun if I was drunk or something like that. I think I was the only sober. Person in there for sure, going with a group of friends and having some drinks. It's funny to me.

Mike Mitchell

My thought about buffalo wild wings is that I liked it a lot back in the day. I did like it. I think it's a fun spot. I think it is a fun. It is a fun spot, but also, it's that sort of thing.

Now, where we've talked about this with chain restaurants, where I'm like, oh, I guess I wouldn't be surprised if in five years, buffalo wild wings, like, declared bankruptcy, which is like. I mean, I think that it does relatively well, but I'm just saying, like, chain restaurants are so weird now, especially post COVID, that I just never. And, like, the places that are, like, successful are, like, weird ice cream shops or, like, acai bowl places that open up and then they go out of business in three years. It's either the. You know, it's.

Nick Wiger

It's the issue with. With buffalo out, wings is doing better than other chains in its sector, but it's like, it's the issue with. With the chili's, the Applebee's, the TGI Fridays of the world. It occupies, like, the middle of the market and an era of increasing income. Striation.

And where you have people who are just, like, striation, they want, like, the cheapest stuff. They want, like, they, like the fast food chains or pizza delivery places, burger shops, taco bell. That's what's thriving. And then also, like, higher end stuff. But the higher end stuff for.

For people who have the money to spend, that tends to not be chain restaurants. So. So, like, yeah, I don't know if I know buffalo Wild Wings has. Has receded a little bit, but because of the pandemic, specifically because it's such. A dine in experience social spot.

Yeah. And there's an interesting contrast between, like, I don't know where else in chain restaurants this is the case with number one and number two, but, like, the other big wing chain, Wingstop has a completely different approach to it. Like, it's not a dine in experience. It's a. It's a to go.

It's basically like. Like you're going to a Papa John's Domino's or Domino's. Yeah. And they're just. They're just handing you the thing, and there's barely a dine in area at all.

Mike Mitchell

You're pulling out a whole bunch of words. They. It's like a word summit in here. You're introducing me a bunch of words. I, uh.

Johnny Pemberton

What words were you. You said expungement. He said the one, Earl. Yes. All this shit, you know what I mean?

Mike Mitchell

I love it as a fan of language. I'm going nuts over here. I love this stuff. I love language. I'm going nuts for these words.

Hey, I'm liking it wise. I like what you're doing. Hey, TikTok, you got a word for me? Hey, TikTok. Hey, I love words.

Johnny Pemberton

Hey, I'm. Open up this synonym of your book here. Whoa, what's that word? Holy shit. I'm Willie Wordsmith.

Mike Mitchell

Give me a word. I want to hear it. Honestly, I think it would probably be the most if I did that. It would be the most success I've ever had online with. Hey, TikTok.

Johnny Pemberton

I like words, but I don't know a whole lot of them. What do you got for me, TikTok? Hey. Hey, TikTok. I'm Mike Mitchell.

I like words. I don't know a whole lot. I don't know a whole lot. I'm trying to learn more as I get older. My friend Nick knows a lot of words.

Sometimes when he says them, I'm like, what?

Mike Mitchell

And then just, like, having submissions for new words, and then I'll make a video of the new word. I think it's a great concept. I think it's a pretty fun concept. Do it. I'll give you my favorite word right now.

Nick Wiger

My favorite big word. Somnambulant. Some nambulant. Oh, I don't even know if I know that word. I just wanna tell you that there is a couple people over your shoulders.

Wow. Sean Clements making a threatening gesture. And then Arden Marine are our good friend giving us a big cheery wave. And then, oh, Pemberton is escalating things by. No, they started.

Johnny Pemberton

They started. Okay, got it. I gave a gentle. A gentle. Oh, shit.

Mike Mitchell

Casey's getting chewed on. This is now threatening. This is like Letterman right now. Casey. Yeah.

Johnny Pemberton

Friend of the pod.

Nick Wiger

We gotta close these curtains from now on. I didn't know they were coming in here. If I knew the Hollywood handbook guys were coming in here, those curtains would be closed. I would not. We not.

Johnny Pemberton

They're menacing. They're very menacing. Just. Sean just looked at me just now. He looked at me like.

Like, what are you gonna do about it? That's fucking bullshit. You know what we're gonna do about it? Nothing. We're gonna stay in here.

Hey, Clements, you know Clements, come over. I'll show you.

Nick Wiger

He's walking away. You know what we're gonna do? We're gonna get a curtain for that door, too, so that we can block out the Hollywood handbook, guys. Completely. I think you should do that, willy Wordsmith.

I think that's fun. Somnambulant is. I have to give you some. Underneath the tongue. Underneath the tongue.

No, it's like sleeping. Like sleepwalking. Like you're in a sleepwalking state. What? Maybe you think underneath the tongue.

Johnny Pemberton

Cause it sounds like sublingual. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sublingual. There's another word that's good. I've been using a lot lately, trying to use it, but I never use it right.

Ooh, I know what it is. I can't remember. Jazz. Jazz. It's jazz.

It's a type of music they play only in space. Oh, it's called come rock.

No, it's called rock and come. I can't think of the word. I was a. I was a word a day guy. I had a word a day calendar, and I was trying to up my vocabulary.

Mike Mitchell

But you know what? Now I just don't. I don't. I've gave. I've given up on word word toilet paper.

Wait, what is the. Oh, is it toilet paper that has a word on it? Like, words on it? You can learn words while you're going potty. That's pretty good.

Johnny Pemberton

I would be. I would so many words if I had that. I would be, like, speaking a different language. How did you learn French? Well, I got this french shit paper.

You know, I'm going to the bathroom. A lot, so I got. See, here's the thing. I have a bidet now. Oh.

Mike Mitchell

And so I'm just. I would have to just be reading this. I mean, I. You still do use some toilet paper. When you do that.

Johnny Pemberton

Do you have a bidet? Bidet. I have a bidet. Bidet. Like a separate thing?

Mike Mitchell

I do not have that. No, I have not a bidet. Get a bidet seat. That's why I asked if you have a bidet. Bidet.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I have a bidet seat. I have specifically a toto washlet is what I have. Have you considered doing the right thing and having a separate one?

Johnny Pemberton

Having a french home? Those are always confusing to me because I don't. You waddle over to that and then you wash your butt. I guess so. I don't like it.

Mike Mitchell

I don't like it either. The bidet in toilet is. And I know you have one, too. Oh, yeah, no, I also got the total washlet, but there's some of those things at Costco. Now.

Nick Wiger

We're in an era of bidet ascendancy, which I'm in favor of. And by the way, I'm going to say this, and by the way, I also have a tushy. By the way, I also have sponsors the show. I have a total washlet upstairs at tushy. Downstairs tushy.

Mike Mitchell

Is there like a. Like an attachment attachment on any toilet, like a wand? It is. It's like a. It's like a.

Similar as a bidet seat, but it just goes under the seat. And it's easy. Yeah. It's mounted, it's easy to install. It's cheap, and it's very functional.

It's great. If you want to clean asshole, go to tushy.com. Promo code doughboys. That is. That is true.

They did advertise, but they. But I have a fancier one upstairs, which is a Christmas gift. A Christmas gift from who? It was a Christmas gift for my sister. Okay.

Johnny Pemberton

That's a sister gift. It is a sister gift. It was like. And it is like. It was like a big gift, but a toilet, well, just.

Mike Mitchell

It still attaches to your toilet. So it's like. It's a seat, but the seat opens by its own. It opens up on its own. Yeah, but I use way less.

Toilet. Yeah, I use way less. It does. It opens up. It's ready to take in your meal.

If you think of a toilet. Jesus Christ. If you think of his toilet in the human way of eating, which we've talked about before, if a toilet eats shit, then it's opening up, ready for. Its time to feed the baby. Let me say that you once ate.

Johnny Pemberton

Master Mike walks in there, locks the door. Time to feed the baby.

Is baby hungry? I'm hung hungry. I'm starving.

Mike Mitchell

I did install baby cries into the bidet. Oh, my God. This is, like, disgusting. That's sick. Oh, you thought you were getting shit today.

Johnny Pemberton

Even worse. You just took the worst thing and made it even worse. Jazzing into a baby's mouth. Feeding. No.

Mike Mitchell

Now hold on. Mike Mitch feeds infants. Willie Wordsmith.

Oh, my God. Connect that to me. Oh, my God. I'm so. Oh, my God.

Nick Wiger

I don't think you're allowed to do that on YouTube. Oh, really? We'll blur it out. You can't do the motion. That's close as he did.

Johnny Pemberton

You're just playing Yahtzee. Give. Baby needs a new pair of shoes. 21, baby. 21.

Mike Mitchell

It would be it would be appropriate if we. And if you were the one who shut down our YouTube. It would be fun. It would be. It was my fault.

I mean, it's not your fault. My fault. Okay. I use way less toilet paper. Yeah.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah. Naturally. Yeah. And so I would have to just read the words, you know, before you wipe out nice mahogany over the word. Anyways, this.

Mike Mitchell

Which is not a. Which is, you know, there should be. No mahogany on the right. Yeah. Yes, you're right.

But it cuts down your toilet paper. Use by. I mean, like, it cuts it in. I would. I would say more than in half like, it.

Like, I use so much less toilet paper. It's incredible. And I. It is. It's so, in a way, probably good for the environment.

Johnny Pemberton

I got a switch. I don't know why I haven't done it yet. It's where. It's. I think you would.

Mike Mitchell

I think you would love it. I've used them before. I don't know. Something about. I mean, they're so not american.

None of us were raised using one. Right. You know, like. Like, I didn't. And I.

Even when my mom got one, I was like, that's. That's where I first started, was my mom. I think it's the computer aspect of it. It's like, I don't want to shit on a computer. Yeah.

Johnny Pemberton

Cause it's like you get, like, maybe shit spiders on the computer and say, I don't want to have to clean the computer. Yes. I mean, it's done very well. The front lid is very cleanable. And the back.

Mike Mitchell

You got one. Yeah, I just mentioned it. Yeah, I got a totally. I thought you were. Thing, but I'm.

Johnny Pemberton

I'm going wild in there. You know, I've got, like. Right. It's wild. Yeah, it's buffalo wild down there.

It's nuts. So it's like. I would say there's more cleaning involved than the nor than a normal toilet with a normal seat. But it's a. It's a similar amount of cleaning.

Nick Wiger

It's not like, oh, my God, they're pretty good, you know, then there's a lot of, like, built in stuff to keep it sanitary. So, yeah, it's. It cleans its. You'll hear it. It's cleaning itself every so often.

Mike Mitchell

So you'll be, like, in another room, you're like. And you'll hear this, and you're like, wait, what the hell is going on? Does that mean it's hungry? Does that mean the baby's hungry? Is that the sound of baby mix.

Yeah. There'll be times where I don't even have to take a shit. And I'm like, all right, if the baby's hungry, I gotta feed the baby. And I'll go in and feed the damn thing all out of shit and piss. Guess I have to feed it something else.

Johnny Pemberton

Give Daddy some time. He's gotta make the food.

This is hell. Daddy can only make one meal a day. Sir, we have to ask you to leave the plane now. Sir. I'm sorry, sir, but you have to.

We have to escort you off the plane. Why? I bought a plane ticket. You tell me I can't do this. You told me I can't feed my baby in the bathroom here.

What? I'm in first class.

Nick Wiger

Buffalo Wild Wings was founded in 1982 in Columbus, Ohio. There are just under 1300 locations in the US. A first reviewed 1313 hundred. Yeah. It's a huge, sprawling franchise, and that's just in America worldwide.

There's more. It's first viewed in 2015 on the podcast on episode 19. Very early on with our buddy Matt Selman, our chicken correspondent got in the Golden Plate club. Back then. We had a lovely time.

Mike Mitchell

We're going to do another chicken correspondence. Oh, it's in the works. We're going to figure that out. Last reviewed in 2020 with Leslie Lee III, where we all hovered around three forks. But that was also a deep quarantine to go experience, which is not what the Buffalo wild wings experience really is.

Nick Wiger

We should remark on the current mascot situation, really, because they have now. Bennett. Beck Bennett is the voice, our past guest, a voice of Hank the Buffalo with wings. He's. Who got that?

Johnny Pemberton

Oh, he's the fucker who got that? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, give it to him. Sure, sure.

Mike Mitchell

I was watching. I was watching like it was during a Patriots game. And I watched it. I was like, that buffalo sounds like bet. And then I saw him a couple weeks later.

I was like, was that, are you the buffalo guy? And he is. He's the buffalo. He's the buffalo, buffalo guy. I can't do impression him.

Johnny Pemberton

How you doing? He is a very bro. He's a very bro y buffalo. That's the way. It's the way it's characterized.

Nick Wiger

Yeah. You know what? Good for him. I feel like it's. No, that's who it was when I was reading, was like, oh, my God, I'm at Buffalo.

Johnny Pemberton

It's like. It's like that was. No, we don't want this. This baby in here doing buffalo. Were you doing the feed the baby thing?

Mike Mitchell

That might have been a part. Yeah, I was doing that, actually, if. It makes you feel better, I didn't even see this. Wasn't even on my radar. Sniff the buffalo wild wing commercial.

Johnny Pemberton

Oh, I think it's like, I do that, like, once a year. I'll get, like, a vo for commercial. Vo. That's great. I'm not.

I don't think I'm good at that unless, you know, I am. I'm actually great at it. I'm great at it. Accomplished voice actor. But the commercial stuff, I think you.

Mike Mitchell

Would be a great voice actor. I am. I do voice act. But it's like the commercial stuff is. It's a different world.

Johnny Pemberton

It's a different thing. It's like more technical, more like, you have to say visa like a thousand times until you hit it. Like visa. It's so specific and they want you to. Cause it's like this brand that's so important.

Nick Wiger

Yeah, they're really particular about pronunciation and cadence and all that shit. And getting language exactly right. It's not sponsored by. It's presented by those sorts of things. You have to say it in a way that everyone who hears it thinks, oh, this is.

Johnny Pemberton

I like that. That feels good. You know what's funny about just commercials in general? We've talked about this before, but also, I'm happy for Beck, and I think a voiceover, you should do it. This is great.

Mike Mitchell

I'm saying, lost in translation is a movie where it's like, this guy is in Japan having to do just this thing of back in the day of, like, big stars. Big Hollywood stars don't do commercials. And that's like, the basis of what loss in translation is. Right. He's like, over there doing commercials.

Johnny Pemberton

But they do them in foreign countries, though still. They still. Yes. Yeah. They still have, like.

Mike Mitchell

But that, but that was the thing is, like, you wouldn't do. And any actor worth there, you know, whatever. If you're, if you're a big american actor, if you're a movie star, it is beneath you to do advertisements. And so if you're going to do that, you would have to have a phenomenal payday and go to a foreign country. And then there'd be, like, a Cartier watch ad with, like, Brad Pitt that would only be in Taiwan, and you'd be like, oh, holy shit, look at this.

Nick Wiger

But you'd never see it in America now. It's just like, everyone does everything. It doesn't fucking, like, the biggest stars in the world are just. I think there should be some shame brought back to it. So.

Mike Mitchell

Shame on you, Ryan Reynolds. I'm shaming when I see it. I'm like, oh, no. Yeah. Why is.

I mean, it is mostly Ryan Reynolds. I feel like Ryan Reynolds is in every commercial. Yeah. Shame on you, Ryan Reynolds. Unless you want to come to the podcast.

Yeah. Then we can't have. We'd love to have you. Love to have you. Welcome to rec em.

Johnny Pemberton

Sure. Yeah.

Mint mobile. I actually love mint mobile. It's great. We use it. I would.

I tried to do mint mobile, but I just. It's. It's so good. I can't have it. It's too good.

Mike Mitchell

It's too good. It's too. Yeah, I was on my phone too. Much because the connection was so strong. I'm not trying to get off of this.

Johnny Pemberton

That's what I meant to say. Yeah. I was on my phone to Ryan. Brian. Brian, Ryan, seriously, we would love to have you on the podcast, Ryan.

Nick Wiger

How's Blake? How's Blake? She's cool. I love the shallows. The shallows.

Love the shallows. That movie you did with the swords. I forget what's called, but it's so funny. So funny. Like, it's like you.

Johnny Pemberton

That's improvised, right? It's got. It has to be improvised. Was definitely. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, I think. I think someone wrote this. I think. I think.

Mike Mitchell

I think everything he's done has been improvised. I also, by the way, I heard radio dj's talking about Ronald Reynolds. Like, Ryan Reynolds has just become a billionaire in the morning. DJ's were like, today. No, this is.

This is. This is, like, a few months back. And then the radio dj's like, that's awesome, man. That's like, how you do it. Like, get your.

Nick Wiger

And I was like, the bag man. Yeah. Secure the bag. I was like, why are you happy with our culture becoming a billionaire? Who gives?

Johnny Pemberton

Get in that bag.

Gotta get that bag. So buffalo bio. So the buffalo wild wings I went to was in Westchester. It's in a shopping center with a cinemarket theater and a Dave and busters and islands. It's like, this is like a place people go to, like, hang out in the area.

Nick Wiger

It's like. It's one of those. All these big chains are here, including. And I texted this to the group chat. There's.

There's now a chain we reviewed last week, a fucking oak Berry. Have you read Oak Berry? I've never even heard of that. There's an oak berry on this block. There's 600 oak berries in worldwide.

Johnny Pemberton

What is it? They're going to be a thousand by the end of the year. It is a. It is an acai berry chain. Oak berry.

Nick Wiger

Oak berry. That started like in 2016 and has just grown exponentially and is everywhere now. It's become ubiquitous. We'll cut through the. Can't wait here.

Mike Mitchell

Wordsmith. I think cut is good. You should have said, we'll slice through this. Okay, how about an english science guy?

Nick Wiger

We'll cleave our way through this. Hey, Shakespeare, how about a different language? We'll cut through the clutters like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, sure. We'll cut through the brush here.

Mike Mitchell

You don't have to go to Oak Berry. It sucks. It's bad. Okay. Yeah, it's an Acai bowl place.

Johnny Pemberton

It's bad. It's bad. We had a bad experience. You had a bad experience. It's not good.

Nick Wiger

And I don't even know if it's making money or there's just so much money behind it. Get in. A presta is a better experience bowl at french juice. Or I could just make it at home with blueberries. There you go.

Johnny Pemberton

They're better. Anyway, I did a solo mission. I went for lunch and I sat at the bar. This place was empty. Buffalo Wild Wings was one of those places.

Nick Wiger

I don't even know why they're open during lunch hours. I think it's purely for sports. I guess so, but. I guess. But during your lucky am I march madness?

Mike Mitchell

I'm sure. Yeah, I guess march madness or like, like a day baseball game or something. Sure, yeah. Yeah. There's probably reasons for it to be open for lunch.

During the ESPN zone was flourished at its time. Anyway, there was nothing going on there. And so I sat down and the bartender was Jonathan, who was a champ, said. Gave me a hey, buddy. Said buddy a lot.

Nick Wiger

And I was like, wait, does he know the partners? No, he just says buddy. Yeah, he just says buddy. That's just. That can just be a thing that someone does.

Johnny Pemberton

Do you like that when someone calls you buddy? I do. I do. I do it to other people. I hate it.

Nick Wiger

You hate it? I hate it when someone. I don't know. Okay, buddy. It almost seems like they're making fun of you in some way.

Johnny Pemberton

Or I like sir. Yeah, or I like sir. Just anything other than buddy. Cuz it's like I'm not your fucking friend. I don't know you.

If I know. If I know a person. Yeah, but if someone at like. I don't know. The Delta counter is like what can do for you, buddy?

It's like, what? You know, we're not. We're not, I don't know, bring back some fucking class. I take it personally. I get defensive about Buddy because something about the.

But Buddy feels like, diminutive. Yeah. I mean, I say, but I say buddy to others with affection, but I will release my buddy usage to strangers. I think it's different if you say it personally. Yeah, sure.

If you are working at a place, a bartender is different. Bartender can say. But, yeah, bartender can say buddy. Bartender can say whatever they want. They can say pal.

They can say, you know, boss, all that stuff. Mo, a former bartender, thank you for your service. What was your go to? I said, y'all a lot. Cause it was gender neutral.

Emma Erdbrick

That's what we were like. That was pretty good. One of my restaurants, we were, like, taught not to gender people. So like, they were y'all folks. It's multiple people.

If it's just one person, I just say, what's up? How's it going? Or was that buffalo woke wings? Oh, exactly. Oh, I would be great to go in there on.

Johnny Pemberton

Something happens and you say, what is this buffalo woke wings? You just look around, everyone's like, yes, yes.

Mike Mitchell

I think Emma is right with. I think that's a lesson. I think a non gender. Yeah. I still use y'all, like, in my emails and stuff to this day.

Nick Wiger

Yeah, I picked up on that. It's smart. I like a boss, which maybe is like a little bit of like the same thing as a sir of just like. But it sounds a little less formal. So I was like, I got you, boss.

I was like, I like that. Buddy, to me, sounds a little bit like, oh, sorry. In Boston, they'll say like. Like, someone be like, what's up, handsome? You know what I mean?

Mike Mitchell

You're like. You're just like, are you being a dick? You don't think I'm handsome? Possibly. Oh, like, it's that sort of thing with buddy where mild, what's up, buddy?

And you're like, like, what is it? What are you trying to say here? It depends on the tone with you. I know that you're, you know. Yeah.

You are like, oh, this guy wants everything's tone. It's all tone. It is, it is. It's mostly tone. Everything's tone.

Tall tone, buddy. But buddy, I get. I get not loving buddy. If you do buddy at the end, that's really bad. It's like, okay, buddy.

Nick Wiger

Oh, sure. That sounds dismissive. Yeah, yeah. Buddy is one of those weird words where you're saying it to someone you also think is a dick sometimes. Like, relax, buddy.

I got it, buddy. I use it for trolls all the time. I say, all right, buddy. Okay, buddy. See?

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, you're fucking tag. You're famous. One of your fav. This is one of his favorite famous words. I do say hey, buddy a lot.

Nick Wiger

It's contextual. Yeah, you're doing it is totally different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can do it. I think you're being an asshole still. You can butt out.

What do you like? What do you like to get? Hey, how you doing? That's what I say. How you doing?

Mike Mitchell

Hey, how you doing? How you doing? Hey, man. I say that, you know, I shouldn't. That's also, again, gender.

But, like. Like, if there's a bartender guy for your fuck face. Oh, if I'm ordering. Oh, that's interesting. What can I help you guys with?

I'll say that, like, groups like a y'all or. Hey, what can I help? What can I help you guys with? Y'all is really handy. I the one I don't like to get.

Nick Wiger

And Mitch, you. I'm curious here, but you probably get. Well, I was gonna say is big man or big guy? Oh, I get that a lot. Yeah, I get big guy.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah. But if I get big guy, it's like, okay, I get it. You know? Right. I'm not a big guy.

Oh, really? Are you my girlfriend's dad from high school. Cool. All right, big guy, what's going on? Like, I am older than you.

How's it going, big guy? That's the big guy on the other side of that where it's like, oh, you're calling. Like. You're pointing out. And I'm like.

Nick Wiger

I'm like, well, I'm like, am I. That big of a guy? I'm not that big a guy, am I? Yeah, I guess I am a big guy. Yeah.

And you get real self. You get big guy. Big man. It's like, very much being like, oh, you're pointing out the fact that I am, like, overweight and big. You know what I mean?

Mike Mitchell

Like, there is a part of that that happens. Maybe they mean, like, big man on campus. Like, you just got, like, big vibes. No one's. No one's ever meant that about me.

Never been the big man on any campus I've walked into, even if I walked onto one today, which would be horrifying. Campus big men are very big. Campus. Big men are fucking big. They're huge, dude.

Johnny Pemberton

They're like, apes who just, you know, like a gorilla. Yes. Massive. Just with a hawaiian shirt. Yeah.

Nick Wiger

Doing keg stands. It is. It is sad when you get, like, you know, like, you know, your Ross Kimballs. You're even Ross. That's a real big man.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, but I'm saying, like, when you feel. When you're like, my bigness isn't even. Like, there's bigger guys than me. There's much bigger guys than me. Yeah.

Nick Wiger

Then it's like that photo you see of Charles Barkley. Or is it. I don't remember Charles Barkley with the rock. And then they're like, next to, like, there's another one. They're next to Shaq or something.

And there's a photo of Shaq next to Yao Ming. And Yao Ming is just towering over Shaq. It's like, crazy. Like, Shaq's the biggest guy I could conceive of, and there's someone bigger than him. Yeah, it's wild.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah. All those NFL guys are just massive. Yeah. So fucking big. Yeah, they're big.

Nick Wiger

They're fucking big. They're fucking big. And we've always been, as a people, we've always been fascinated by giants. That's part of the appeal of sports. To see someone who's big.

Mike Mitchell

I told us a wives. I went to church. That was the anniversary of my dad passing away. And the priest called me, he called me a giant. And he was like, are you irish?

And he asked me that twice because I saw him twice over the course. Of, do you have an irish accent? He did not have an irish accent. So it wasn't a thing of, hey, you're part of the tribe or whatever. It was just like, hmm.

I think his monstrosity comes from the irish gene, was basically what it was. And then he was like, hey, I'm not supposed to do this, but you're the guy from confession who was talking about jacking off into your toilet, right? Recognize the voice. Oh, look at this big giant here feeding the baby. Goes home every day feeding the little baby.

Johnny Pemberton

Shame.

Poor baby has to be fed by a giant man three times a day. Going in there three times a day, unloading into the baby. How dare you? It's funny. Our giant man, but not giant.

Everywhere giant for a leprechaun.

Well, should have known. Shoulda known. Mm hmm. Here is the best thing I had at Buffalo. Wild wings.

Mike Mitchell

Wow. And one of the best things I've eaten for this shitty podcast all year. Whoa. This is big. Wow.

So you both ate in restaurant? I ate in restaurant. I did in restaurant. No, I did not. The all american cheeseburger.

Nick Wiger

I'd never had their burger before, but I'd heard it was good. I got it with the. It's a double patty. It's got american cheese, iceberg lettuce. It's kind of a smashburger concept, but.

But not, you know, not an extreme version of that. Lettuce, tomato, pickles, mustard, mayo. Challah bun comes with fries. And then I got added grilled onions, which the menu suggested isn't challah. Challah.

How do you say it? Challah fucking wordsmith over here. I didn't claim to be the wordsmith. You dubbed me the word. Guess what.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. The title is taken away. You fucking blew it. Bun is weird. It's usually like a braided loaf.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah. To make a bun is like a challah bun. I've never heard that feels like a. Like they're just someone, you know, shooting from the hip. Here's the thing.

Nick Wiger

The texture worked marvelously. I thought this was a delicious burger. I loved it. I was like, this is fucking great. And if I come back to buffalo wild wings, I'm not getting wings.

I'm getting this. I wish I had got that. It was great. It was terrific. I also got some.

An order of wings and fries just cause I wanted to try a couple of different wings. They have two different varietals right now. They're seasonal honey Sriracha and Honey garlic. Honey sriracha is a little spicy. Honey garlic is not spicy at all.

Johnny Pemberton

I did the honey sriracha. Yeah, I got the two seasonal wings last night. What is going on here? What's going on? What's going on?

Jesus. Little mind melding between all of them. You know what's strange, though, is the last time I went to bw three's, actually, it's not called that. I don't want to call it that. A friend of mine went as well just the day before.

Coincidentally, I saw him later that week. Yeah, we both got the exact same order. Wow. Just weirdly. That's enough.

Mike Mitchell

Bw three sounds so good. It's sad that it doesn't work. That's what I first heard in college. My friend Nate called it bw three. S.

Nick Wiger

It was originally bw three because the way the concept started was buffalo wild wings and weck. A weck is an. Is an upstate New York beef sandwich, really. And so they originally had wings and whack, and then they were like. Like, lose the whack.

It's cleaner, and it's just buffalo wild wings. They. Sean Parker did so. But yeah, that's why it was. Some people still call it bw three.

Johnny Pemberton

Cause wack sounds like, you know, oh, got a bunch of weck on my pants. Right. Weck sounds like you might be going to feed the baby. I thought it was misremember. I thought it was having, like, a Mandela effect thing by bw three.

Nick Wiger

No, you're. It's in usage. A lot of people call B dubs. Oh, yeah, love. Love saying B dubs.

Johnny Pemberton

Everybody cool calls it B dubs. Love saying B dubs. I don't call it B dubs. Which makes sense. This does check out.

Mike Mitchell

I should call it is cool to call it B dubs. I don't go to Buffalo wild wings enough as is. I should go more. No, it's good that you don't go as often as you as, like, just go for the show. That's all you need to do.

Nick Wiger

As far as buffalo wild wings once, when we review it periodically, every four years or whatever, that can be your trip. You don't need to go regularly. I was hurting. I'm gonna say this. I.

Mike Mitchell

Last night. Cause I have, like, I was like, did everyone eat it? And I found out that everyone had eaten at the restaurant, and I was like, I'm the only one who hasn't eaten at the restaurant. And so I was like, I'm gonna just order it. What time did you find this out?

It was like 10:00 p.m. So I ordered. I ordered. I ordered my buffalo wild wings and it came out. It came at about 10:00 p.m.

Or so I can actually look to see when it came specifically. Yeah, it was late. Sorry, Jimmy. It was late. And I'll say this, I had the experience of eating at during the pandemic, which is.

I feel like it's such an eat at home restaurant. Yeah. But I think since the pandemic, they maybe have upped their takeout game. Cause I've eaten in restaurant plenty. I think they would have to survive.

Nick Wiger

Yeah, for sure. I thought that it traveled pretty well. A thing that I really fucked up on is I'm here with the oven fries, man. I got any fucking fries? Oh, you just got wings?

Mike Mitchell

I had an option to get fries. I got a buffalo chicken wrap, and I was like, oh, I'll do the chips and salsa. That would be great. It came with the chips. They forgot the salsa, which is, of course they did.

It's like, you know, it's just unusable. But I luckily did get a little side of queso. Queso sauce, which was in a little container and was. No, it was weird. It was very strange.

But I didn't. The originator of oven fries. We got them here. True. We've sold, you know, like, 20 t shirts based on this.

We owe you. We owe you a cut of the 20 t. I think I got a cut. Yeah, you got a cut. Oh, he did?

All right. Good. Yeah. And by the way, 20 t shirts, I think the most of any t shirts we've sold. I'm your branding guy.

Johnny Pemberton

No problem. Let's go. Branding, that's my company. The oven fries were. Have you had any oven fries since we've talked about them?

Mike Mitchell

I have. Oh, yeah. Have you really? Yeah, ma.

Johnny Pemberton

I didn't make them. Oh, your mom. Your mom made them. Yeah, my mom. If I could have ombud fries still.

Mike Mitchell

They're usually. She's. She's. Look, she's gonna usually get your steak fries. That's the ones that she uses.

Nick Wiger

Wait, like the oreida? What do you. What do you go with? Yeah, usually Oreida and I'll sometimes do curly fries. I think curly fries.

Mike Mitchell

Cause they're seasoned, you know? Those are good. Yeah. Yeah. Or Ida, Oregon, Idaho.

Nick Wiger

How about that? Is that what it is? Yeah. Freaking Bill Shakespeare over here. Someone get this guy a pen.

Johnny Pemberton

Oh, oh. Someone get this guy up some paper, too. We don't want to lose this. Hold on. Come.

Someone call up the vice president.

That's my new joke. It's called the vice president.

Nick Wiger

What did you think of the honey Sriracha and honey garlic? You got both flavors? I got both. And you just got the honey garlic. Did you get boneless or regs?

I always do bone in. I love boneless. Yeah, me too. I made a mistake. I got the boneless.

Johnny Pemberton

I got half. I got some boneless and some bone in. Okay. The boneless are fucking terrible. Really?

I can't. I'll never get boneless wings as long as I live. Wow. Salty. There's not enough meat.

They got the breading on there. So much extra breading. Oh, there's some great boneless buffalo fingers in quincy that I gotta have. Wise try. Cause I wonder what he would think.

That's like a local thing, you know, like a local. Boneless is different. It's like, made with care. Yeah. By a sweaty guy.

Mike Mitchell

You know, there's 100% a sweaty guy. I. And I think that you. I think both of you would like them. I.

But weirdly enough, I had the. And I think I had one flavor the Sriracha honey Sriracha was the bone in, and then the honey. The honey garlic was the. Was the bone out. It's the exact same thing.

Johnny Pemberton

I got boneless honey gar, and I got bone in honey scratch, and I. Mine boneless were pretty good, and I really enjoy the taste of it. I know, I know. That's. And also it traveled, but I did.

Mike Mitchell

I did a priority. I got it the first delivery. So you always got to get priority. You gotta. You gotta try.

You gotta get an upstart. It is an upcharge, but it's worth it, man. It's already sitting there long enough. Yeah, they're not making, like, three other stops. They're just going straight to you.

Nick Wiger

That's nice. I will say I do like that honey garlic sauce a lot. That was really flavorful, and it's not. It's, like, completely mild. And I'm a bit of a heat seeker.

So I would have naturally thought I'd like the honey Sriracha, a little bit more honey sriracha, first off, to me, had no punch. It was not spicy at all. And then. And supposed to be like two spicy, you know, two little flames. Yeah.

Johnny Pemberton

It must be kind of high, but I think it's kind of like a. What do you call it? A. A slow burn. Yeah, I just wasn't feeling it very much.

Nick Wiger

But I guess Sriracha is also, like, not the spiciest of sauces. The honey really took. The honey really took. It was the dominant flavor. Yeah, it's very sweet.

Johnny Pemberton

A very sweet wing. Yeah, yeah. Which I don't love. I mean, it tastes really great, but I'm also like, I want that sour vinegar ness. That's what I crave.

Mike Mitchell

Well, I mean, my fingers, afterwards, I was like, what did I just feed the baby? What's going on here? No one liked that.

Nick Wiger

Just too potent of an image. Cause I'm just not even sure what it is. Yeah. Like, wouldn't the baby lick your fingers clean, dipping them in there? Nothing goes to waste.

Mike Mitchell

It was. You know what? You know how you go over the line? I went. I went.

I think I pushed it over the line. I think I went to. I think I took it too far. Well, that's how you know where the limit is. Yeah.

Nick Wiger

So it's interesting. But you know what? I stand by it. Cause I think it was interesting finding out where the limit was. What do the Fremen do with that stuff?

They're saving it, right? The Fremen. Oh, my God. Oh, that's Fremen's. Not just gonna blow a load in the sand.

They gotta do it. There's still. Yeah.

Johnny Pemberton

We are all so backed up. Paul Atreides. Please. Please. Yeah.

Nick Wiger

You can only edge on Arrakis. Yeah. Don't let it out. Don't let it out. Sandworms will hear.

Mike Mitchell

They hear a thud on the ground. They're gonna come. They're coming. We've been waiting for gener. Cause do you know what the thud is?

What's that? Doom. Doom. It's someone getting right to the edge.

Nick Wiger

I thought you were saying dune as you were doing it. Dune. Dune, Dune. That would be very funny. That would be funny if in the new dune, the sound it made was Dune.

Johnny Pemberton

Dune.

Mike Mitchell

Did you like it? Nick loves it. I like it a lot. Yeah. I was just okay on it.

Casey loves it. It's his favorite movie. Emma liked it. Emma loved it. I'm the odd one.

Johnny Pemberton

I'm into it. The first one was so much more fun, but that was just because it was like, I liked the first one more, too. It's like immersive. More immersive. I guess.

Nick Wiger

Natalie likes the first one more, too. I like the first one more. After my first viewing of Dune two, and then when I saw Dune two again, I was like, oh, wait, no, I was not trying. Being overwhelmed by information. Also didn't like any of the new Star wars movies.

Mike Mitchell

And then when you saw them again, you're like, I love them. So I can't really trust. I don't know what happens to you in your second. What. Your opinion never changes when you experience something.

I think my opinion goes from, I want to kill JJ Abrams to, I now like this movie as it did for wise. Yeah, but came around on it. Morse awakens is fine. So I got two of one and. One of each wing last Jedi alike.

Jesus Christ. We don't need to get into it. We don't have to get into it. Lord of the Rings. Love.

Nick Wiger

Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings. I just got back into them. All these movies are fantastic. They're fucking honestly rewatchable.

Johnny Pemberton

So relaxing. Yeah. They're a great filmmaker. He's incredible. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

Peter Jackson. Big, big guy. Big guy. A big guy. You know, he probably got.

He probably got that. And then he slimmed down. There was a little slim Peter at one point. No, I think he's not. He does.

Johnny Pemberton

That wouldn't work for him. I feel like, yeah, you want him to kind of be a big guy, but he did. I remember it was post lord of the Rings. I think he went down. He golemized a little bit, and then, you know, he dwarfed up a little bit after that.

Mike Mitchell

I got a buffalo chicken wrap wise, I got those two wings. I got a buffalo chicken wrap. That's what came with the option for. For. For fries or chips and salsa.

Was this, like, the standard. So I went with chips and salsa. Salsa was. Was not there, which was just a bummer. I mean, a bunch of tortilla chips with no salsa.

And there was that weird queso sauce, which was strange. It was warm, but I was just like, is this where the wings. I didn't really understand what the queso sauce was because it was in a tiny container, too. It was like, in, like. Yeah, one of the ranch or the blue cheese containers where I also got ranch and blue cheese.

I got carrots and celery. I didn't get celery. You didn't get celery? I asked for. They're like, out of celery.

Nick Wiger

Out of celery. I am such a celery man. I love celery so much. Yeah. I love it.

With wings. I gotta have ultimate combination because it's like the. The healthiest thing ever. Yeah. Mixed with the worst thing ever.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah. So you feel like you're like, you know, stepping in two worlds, bouncing back and forth between bad boy, good boy. But also such satisfying crunch and such a great, like, ranch or blue cheese delivery mechanism. It's the best. It's the design.

Johnny Pemberton

God, our designer God made this. It is nature's scoop. Honestly. It's. Could you imagine, by the way, if the bad boys.

Mike Mitchell

Will Smith and Martin Lawrence met the good boys, those little rascals from the movie good boys. Can you just imagine? Can you imagine that mashup? I don't know what that is. Does I know what that is?

Bad boys. There's a movie. Good boys. There are the little kids who swore a lot. What was this, like, the sixties?

Nick Wiger

No, this was pretty recent. Good boys. Good boys. Yeah, man, I guess I've been doing a good job at staying off the radar. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

I don't think you ever had up. Right now to see what year it was. The podcast. I think Sam Richardson is in it, right? I think he's in the movie.

Yeah, I think so. Good boys came out in 2019. Yeah, it's. It's like an. It's like an r rated.

Johnny Pemberton

Oh, I recognize that. Yeah. You seen this poster? I didn't see that movie. That's a movie.

Nick Wiger

Yeah. They're like foul mouthed. Foul mouthed youths. Oh, yeah. I didn't see that.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah, well, that's a different time, different era. How can you forget something that came out right before the pandemic? Yeah. My mind is, like, basically, like, been wiped clean out two times over. Well, I would just say, like, if, like, you know, I, like, you were like, me, and you knew what good boys was, and then Mitch said that you would have the reaction I did.

Nick Wiger

Which would be like, just euphoric. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Just rapturous.

Johnny Pemberton

Because it's, like, the reference. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you can't imagine what it would be like if the bad boys met the good boys. I honestly. I pity you that you can't imagine the bad boys meeting the good boys, because when Mitch said it, I was like, oh, my God.

Reference. One of the most popular movies ever made. Yeah. To something that is basically obscure. Basically obscure.

Sort of like, maybe, I don't know, like canoe dancing or something like that. It's like whale rider, basically. Yeah, the whale, too. Well, rider also. We're the doughboys.

Nick Wiger

Why not the bad boys meet the doughboys. There you go, everyone. He said bad boys, good boys, or. Right, so that's where it was in. I thought you were gonna say, imagine Will Smith and Martin riffing on celery.

Johnny Pemberton

Cause you know, that will be like, we eat that for him. He's like this. This is celery meat. It's healthy. Yeah, it's healthy.

Will Smith, like, that's bad. And will, you know, it'd be like this thing where it would just be sparkling on screen. Martin Lawrence is like, I'm on a diet. I need to eat the celery. Like, that would be a part, because I think it now.

Exactly. You just dipped it in barbecue sauce. It's like, oh, but it's on my, you know, whatever. You got Michael Bay just fucking. Yeah.

Six cameras from a mile away, zooming in, helicopter shot. I'd be eating it up. I think I would be having a blast watching it. Yeah. I gotta say this.

Mike Mitchell

If the. If the bad boys met the doughboys, I think the whole time I'd be thinking, keep his wife's name out of your mouth. I think that's what I'd be thinking, is to not mention you. Don't get slapped. I wouldn't want to be slapped.

Johnny Pemberton

Who would want to cool it now? I bet he's. You think he's cool now? Yeah, he's gotta be. He's gotta be.

Mike Mitchell

He's probably chilled out. I feel like Will's the guy who wills? Like, Schwarzenegger. He's gonna make it right. He's gonna make it right.

Johnny Pemberton

Do whatever he can to make it right. In eight years, when he's allowed back to the Academy Awards, you know, something fun's gonna happen. Shit's so bizarre. That's, like, so simulation. Yeah, it's bizarre.

Like, absolutely. Just, what the fuck is this world we live in? A ten year ban from the Academy Awards is very funny. The fact that there's a number on it. Yeah.

Like, what the. It's insane. 41 year ban for me so far. From the Academy Awards. I think.

Mike Mitchell

I think it's gonna go longer, honestly. You're banned, huh? I think I'm banned. I mean, that's my guess. I've never been invited.

Have you ever gotten the invite to the Academy Awards? No, I've never. No. Mitch never gone to the Oscars? No.

Spacey Weinstein never gave me an invite. You never plus one? Mel Gibson's plus one? No. I mean, we know a lot of people who have written for the Oscars, but.

Nick Wiger

Yeah, no, I've never actually. I forget that people write for it. Yeah, but the Jack Allison was during the mix up. Jack Allison was right there on hand during the big mix up. Oh, that's right.

Yeah, they had the Kimmel staff, and he was writing for Kimmel at the time. So, like, the. You know, if you're a host of a late night show, you'll just bring your writers over and help you write the award show. The la la land moonlight mix up. I met one of those guys on the picket line.

I met someone who was a producer on La la Land, and he was like, yeah, I was up there when they had the award wrong. I was like, that's fucking. What a crazy thing to experience. That's f ing wild. Anyway, we got to talk more about buffalo wild wings.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, I guess so. I mean, we could think some more on what the bad boys would do if they met the good boys. Well, I was going to say, this out of celery is crazy to me. I don't know if there's a big ants in the log thing. I don't know what's happening.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah, TikTok's got a walking now. They were just cleaned out. Every cell reformed from here to gloucesters, fucked. It's funny, he says, I went with Dutton to Los Feliz Cafe or Cafe Los Feliz. And the TikToker had gone to cafe los Feliz.

Oh, no. They ruined it. And it was like. And so, like, it's been, like, packed. Because a TikToker is like, this is the best breakfast burrito in LA.

Mike Mitchell

And he's like, wow. He, like, pours the sauce on. He's like.

Like, that's all it takes. Then it's over, and then now this. Now it's gonna be. There are all young people in line at Cafe Los Feliz. I mean, it will just be a month of that.

Johnny Pemberton

And there used to be a different name. Cafe los fellows. Yeah. I don't think I know that place. It's near.

Mike Mitchell

It's right across the street from little doms on that corner. Okay. You might be thinking of mustard seed cafe down street. Mustard seed is also another very popular. Well, there's also.

Johnny Pemberton

What's the old school place that everyone goes to? Like, you know, it's like where you have lunch with a. With an agent or some shit. It's that place on alcove. Alcove, right.

Alcoves. Like, you know, that's always gonna be. I saw Gina. What's her name? Gina Davis.

There once. Gina. Wow. The flies girlfriend. Davis goes there.

You know, that's pretty good spot. The flies. X. Yeah, I worked with Gina Davis once. Did you really?

Nick Wiger

Yeah. She's lovely, right? She's awesome. She's the best. Gotta be.

Totally pros. Pro. She did. She did a bunch of fucking archery tricks. It's incredible because she's.

She was a. She was a hopeful for olympic archery back in the day, and she's kept up with. And she's, like, a phenomenal archer. That's how you shot a thing. Me and Danny Jelinek shot a thing with her where she just did a bunch of fucking archery rules.

That was fucking incredible. That's. That's nuts. The fly in the wide. She's worked with both.

No, I was thinking. Cause. Yeah, the fly and the wide. Jeff Goldblum. The fly and the wye.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've also worked with Jeff Goldblum. Wow. It's a perfect triforce and a triforce of talent.

Mike Mitchell

Goldblum also, he's got a talent. He likes to tickle the keys. He likes tickle the keys and sing songs to the women at a bar. That's his thing. Loves to do it.

Johnny Pemberton

I, uh. I can't do it. That's my good Jeff Goldberg impression. I, um.

Nick Wiger

When I. When I met him. So, like, he does the thing where he'll repeat. Which I do, which. Repeat someone's name a few times to himself to get it in his brain.

So when he met me, he was like, oh, hello, Mister Weiger. Nice to meet you, Mister Weiger. In the very gold bloomy way, he was saying Mister Weiger to me. It was really intense. Ooh, that's.

Johnny Pemberton

I have a theory about that. But I don't know, we'll talk about. It off the pod about saying people's names a few times. Cause these are all this and the buddy thing are both things that I do. We'll talk about things.

Oh, but you say it. But when he says it's different. Yeah. Okay. He's saying it not to remember it.

I think he's doing a different thing. Oh, it's like some sort of power. I think he's using the voice. You think he's using the voice? Basically, yeah.

It's like I never met Hugh Jackman, but you know, if you met Hugh Jackman, it's like if you met any president of the United States, you can hate him as much as you want. But you mean, hey, right, right. You're just gonna be, oh, this person is magnanimous. It's like when George W. Bush, like, people are like, I'm gonna fucking.

Nick Wiger

I hate that fucking guy. And then you meet and people meet him and they just turn into like, oh, yeah. Cause he's got, like, he's got all doe eyed. He's got the shine. Yeah.

Johnny Pemberton

Right. And I feel like those, like those people have it. They have the shine where they're using the voice on you in a way. She's using the voice like a fucking Benny gesserit. Yeah.

For real? I think so. Mister Warger. Fuck. Open the door.

Mike Mitchell

Cooloom. Fuck. Write me something. Write me something really funny. That one didn't work.

Weird. The best jokes. Give them to me. Yeah. Voice.

Nick Wiger

I'm tuned out the voice now. Yeah, I like the. Anyway, I like the honey garlic more than the honey sriracha. I thought the honey Sriracha was kind of inert. They were both.

Well, me too. They were well made wings, but just kind of like a little too. A little too sweet, maybe a little too much honey. Yeah, I was feeling the same way. Too sweet.

Johnny Pemberton

Cause like the sweet's like a. It's like a cheat code. Cause you're always gonna like the sweet thing, but it's not gonna like, satiate you the same. It's like a classic dirty wing. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

Hey, you don't wanna piss off the bees, but they. A little too much honey, I think. I think there was too much honey on these things. Could have been pulled back the honey a little bit. Yeah, that could have been the thing.

Nick Wiger

I also in store. I was not gonna have a brew dog at lunch, so I got myself a mountain Dew legend, which is a buffalo wild wings exclusive mountain Dew flavor. And, you know, wise, I know you got that. And I. Who weren't offered?

Mike Mitchell

Offer? No, I actually did ask because I was like, got anything special? He mentioned something called, like, sunny or slurry. It's like the new. The new starry.

Johnny Pemberton

Starry? Yeah, starry. Like, what the hell is starry? So they're a Pepsi restaurant. Sierra mist.

Nick Wiger

Their new Sierra mist. Yeah. Yeah. I got the Mountain Dew legend as well. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

And you know what? I think it's a drink. I think it's a pretty good drink. Yeah, I thought it was good. So I tasted it.

Nick Wiger

I was like, oh, this is kind of like a spicy grape soda. And then I looked it up. It's BlackBerry, citrus, and ginger, so. And it's got caffeine in it, like a mountain dew. So good.

Yeah, it's like. It's like the color of cola. It's like a. It's like a black soda. Purple.

Purple. Yeah. Sounds good. It was good. I did like it.

Mike Mitchell

It was good. I should have got that. I'm have to go back by and just get a bucket of to go legend.

You know what? It's right next to the AMC Burbank. There's a couple good spots where you can, uh. Teenagers. You can get yelled at by teenagers.

I am very afraid of getting yelled at by teenagers up there. There's one in Glendale, too, and that's where I got mine delivered from. And it must be near the Americana, but I have no idea where the fuck it is. It's over by the Americana. It is just.

It's by the Americana. That's where I got mine from. Uh, and I don't know if I've ever actually been to that location before, but I'll say this. On the whole, it was kind of. I've been in buffalo wild wings a million times.

It was kind of good to get delivery. It worked out in a weird way. No? Yeah, yeah. Where I was like, oh, this delivered pretty good for me.

I was enjoying it. And that was. I did the mountain dew legend, the wrap, chips, and salsa, and the two different, which I did not finish all of that, but. But, oh, I also got something that I really loved, and I'm not sure if you're gonna agree with this. Everything.

Pretzel bites. I didn't see that on the menu. That does sound good. I liked them a lot. They came with beer cheese and mustard.

Johnny Pemberton

Beer cheese. Always good. And it was like a spicy mustard. It was, it was, it was. They were.

Mike Mitchell

I loved them. Them. I thought they were great. They were really. Cheese curds.

Oh, yeah. You like their curds? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm from the midwest. Right, right.

Nick Wiger

It's a thing there. I had to get them just to try them. And they're definitely, they say Wisconsin cheese curds, but these are not. They're not like. Yeah, they're a lot too.

Mike Mitchell

It's just like a big bath, like, you know, a bass. They're too small. They should be bigger. Yeah. And they should be.

Johnny Pemberton

Well, there's all kinds of stuff with cheese. Cheese curds are kind of actually hard to do. Right. Culver's does a good 01:00 a.m.. I.

Wrong. Am I missing out and bringing that? I think so, but that's like a. I haven't had them before. That's like a Wisconsin thing.

Yeah. And you're from Minnesota, right? I mean, I've been to Culver's. I never got the cheese curds there. Got it, got it.

I remember those guys. You can talk Lucy. Lucy's til the sun comes up, though. I've actually never had one. Oh, my God.

Yeah. Isn't that crazy? I've had. I've had. I've had the two big spots in Minnesota for two big spots, and I can't.

Mike Mitchell

I have a t shirt for one of them. I went with Wu Tang just recently, but I'll look him up. But there's. It's bar something. Bar.

It's a number like bar 59 or something. No, actually, I don't know. Cause I didn't grow up in Minneapolis. I don't know, like the stuff. Yeah.

Nick Wiger

I have not had a proper one out there. I've had some versions of it right here, but it's just like, I'm sure it's not the same. It's also like. Seems a little gimmicky to me. Am I blue cheeseburger?

No, just. Just the idea of a juicy lucid. You didn't come with us to get it? Well, yeah, that's. This is the thing.

I wasn't gonna. We are. We had to eat fucking. What was that? That awful place, that wretched place was.

Emma Erdbrick

Literally recovering from eating that juicy loose. Emma got sick from. From Taco. John's mo has more to do than any of us know. Yeah, I went with.

Mike Mitchell

I went with Carl on tour. I went. I went with Wu Tang the first. Time I was with the Wu Tang clan. I just.

Wu Tang. My buddy, Wu Tang, who's who. We went and saw the patriots lose. Your buddy's name is Wu Tang? His name is Adam Wu and we call him Wu Tang.

Nick Wiger

Okay, great dude. Great dude. Love Liutang. Great guy. He runs a restaurant, majestic Dragon and Ipswich Club.

Mike Mitchell

Five eight is one of them. Got it. I heard of that damn origin. So, yeah, club. They shot the good boys.

Five eight club. Sorry, I got that backwards. Isn't that like kind of like a dive bar? Like, it's a small little spot. So Matt's bar is the one that is.

I mean, I think maybe both of them are, but I think five eight club has a couple locations. But Matt's bar is the dive bar. And that's in Minneapolis. This is in Minneapolis. I've never heard of that.

Johnny Pemberton

That's weird. And that's. Bar is like the. That's like the old school spot. And look, I went there wax with Carl and we had one and we got tees, t shirts and we loved it.

Mike Mitchell

It was. Yeah, I'm sure it was good. It was very good. We wore them to the show that night. I think we had different.

Nick Wiger

I think we just have different approaches to this sort of thing, because, wait, like, when we tour for the podcast, I'm like, I've got to. I've got to make myself miserable waiting this, like, fucking garbage food that we can talk about on the show. That'll be like, I'll do that obligation. And then I'm gonna eat like, a salad or something. But you're like, whatever.

I'm already in the muck. I'm just gonna go all the way. I'm just gonna go full faro. So you're pointing out the fact that. Yeah, I was eating more garbage.

Yeah, but that's the thing. I'm just like, I don't wanna. I can't do that to my body. We were there, though. We went early to Taco John's.

Mike Mitchell

We got in a day early. And we had that the night before. And then we had. Yeah, thank God. Those have been barfing on stage.

Johnny Pemberton

That would be a cool look, though. I think you guys could pull it off like a tandem spray barf, you know? That would be kind of like a synchronized puke. I feel like the Minnesota crowd probably would've just been like, yeah, they were so. They were hammered.

Oh, yeah. People like to drink there. They were. They were. They were out of their minds.

Nick Wiger

Yeah. God. And I like Minnesota. My cousin John lives in and his. Family had a great time.

Mike Mitchell

Shout out to Leah, you met both of them. Leah and John, you met. They're lovely. And their kids. Great, great family.

They live in Minnesota. I like Minnesota. Joe, Mandy's from Minnesota. But the crowd was out of control that night. They were crazy.

They were, they were, they were wild, juiced up. Are you, are you a sport? Oh, do you like those Minnesota Timberwolves? I like the Vikings. I don't know Vikings, okay.

Johnny Pemberton

But Wolves are doing great this season. Really? Yeah. Check out the playoffs. Too many games.

Nick Wiger

That's the thing. But, like, I think the Wolves would be a really fun team to just check out for the playoff run and then, you know, everyone, Minnesota, be sure. Is a great way to get into basketball too, I think. You know what? It is a long season.

Mike Mitchell

I haven't been keeping up to date on the Celtics as much as I should, but, you know, I'm a grown man. Well, they're, they're like, whatever. Twelve games ahead for the one seed. They're fucking, you know, get a wall to the finals. They're looking for to get.

I mean, I like, just like, I'm sure that. Don't lose. Simple. Yeah. Right.

Nick Wiger

One game a week. Yeah. You just move on with your life. And it's like pure entertainment. There's no, I don't know, something about it.

No. Recently, I got into it like a couple years ago, just like three years ago during the pandemic, I got into football. I love, I love football. I'm a fan of watching it wise. Was.

Mike Mitchell

Doesn't watch it because of the issues that come with football, but he instead watches professional wrestling. I got to, I know it's a, it's a bit contradictory, but I just, like, I got so bummed out by, like, what, hard hits and shit and. People getting concussions of the game? Yeah, exactly. That really, really bummed me out.

Nick Wiger

And I just, I just stopped enjoying it and I was like, you know, fewer things to follow. Yeah. I just have no soul. So I'm sort of like, no, I. Did no judgment against anyone.

Johnny Pemberton

I feel like it's like I've somehow able to deny, care about that. Sure. I mean, it's like it's default. Yeah. But I feel like.

What's it called when someone doesn't care about something or lack of empathy? Come on. Come on, Shakespeare. Come on. Let's go, Shakespeare.

Come on. Tell me how I feel.

What is it called? Apathetic. What's it called when someone's like, you know, like a sociopath? Yeah. I mean, I didn't want to say sociopath.

Yeah, that's it. I would not think of you as a sociopath. You're a lovely man. Exactly. Oh, God.

Nick Wiger

Okay. All right. Weiger is a sociopath, though, for sure. By the way, professional wrestlers. Cole Cabana just said poutine.

Mike Mitchell

You had weiger at teen. That's what he. That's very good. I think. I think he roast from Pooh.

I don't know if I had said that to you or something, but. But I. But you said that in the john and Ty episode. That's what it was. Yeah.

Nick Wiger

There was talking about the teen burger. Right. And you said you had weiger at teen. This was aw canada menu offering, and I think he maybe was. Yes.

Ending that with a poutine. Oh, that's right. Okay. A lot of fun. Thanks for checking your texts.

As we do the show. Shout out to colts. What else is going on? The texts here. Let's see.

Mike Mitchell

And there's 150 text messages from blank Doe. The text, Shane, I'm on with you. And I haven't looked at yet. Yeah, don't look at that during the record. We'll catch up on that afterwards.

Nick Wiger

Emma, shout out to your sister, who I know is a big buffalo wild Wings fan or is at least a bit of a heat seeker. She's a huge heat seeker. She's a real freak for heat. Mango habanero, her favorite flavor. One of her favorites.

Emma Erdbrick

Yeah. Wow. Sweet chili thai. Another one. Spicy one.

Nick Wiger

Yeah. So. So the hottest at Buffalo Wild Wings is spicy, but not gonna blaze you. It's called blazin knockout. I think it used to just be called blazin, and I've had it before, and it's like, it's not like Howlin Ray's Howlin where it's just gonna knock you on your ass.

It's hot, but it's fine. No, thanks. We did. We did the hot ones. Well, we still.

Mike Mitchell

It still hasn't come out yet. How long ago did you make it, or did you film it? Well, this is the thing Mitch said we did the hot ones, and people are going to think we were on the hot ones. That's not what happened. Check.

Keep looking at the YouTube for hot ones. You might see the doughboys pop up. We got the hot ones sauces and tried them for a segment on an upcoming Patreon episode. Yeah. Who knows?

Between President Biden and Ryan Reynolds, we might pop up on an episode of Hot Ones. I mean, there's, like, the most famous people on earth. The most famous people on earth. That do hot ones. It's interesting.

On the hot one scale, I don't even think it gets past the fifth hot sauce. Yeah, I think it would probably be maybe a six or seven maybe if you were being charitable to it. But I also didn't have it this time, so I'm speaking from memory, so maybe it's not actually that hot. That stuff is dangerous. It is dangerous.

Too dangerous. I had a hot exit from these wings. I had. Oh, you did? Okay.

Johnny Pemberton

But I get that because I don't have, you know, I have less intestines. So I think it's like the colon breaks down a lot of heat. And sometimes if I have the hot stuff, it is a nighttime. I have to try to take a shit. Yeah, I should get a bidet because it's, like, severe pain.

Nick Wiger

Oh, man. It's crazy. Like, I'm surprised at how painful it is. You gotta get a bidet. I did.

Mike Mitchell

I'm telling you. Look, I wonder if the bidet would make it worse the same way drinking water. You know what I mean? You gotta get a milk bidet. It can.

Johnny Pemberton

That'd be good. Jimmy moved away from me after I said that and is now, like, in a seemingly uncomfortable position. She does this sometimes. It's very cool for her. Kind of in.

Nick Wiger

Lying in, like, a little lowercase c, maybe like an s, like a spine twist. Oh, that's sweet. I am with you. I'm not. I no longer do.

Mike Mitchell

She's sweet. I can't help, but she's cute. I no longer do the spicy stuff. I do mild. I'm a mild guy now.

Dolly Parton, I sent you the. I sent you screen. Dolly Parton. She like. It's soft taco supreme.

And she likes mild sauce from Taco Bell. We just. Mexican pizza. The mexican pizza. Talking about dog partners.

Johnny Pemberton

Just the name of, like, a dog or something. Sorry. The Dolly. The dolly. Okay, I got it.

Mike Mitchell

Doggy Parton would be a great name for a dog. Yeah, Mitch, that would be a great name for a dog. I'm just thinking about it now, man. What if doggy Parton met the bad boys and the good boys? That would be a crazy.

Johnny Pemberton

Triple crazy. And what about. What's the movie with the dogs in it? Every movie. Stray.

Mike Mitchell

Oh, strays. What if doggy Parton met the strays? I also guess you're right. That stray. Every movie does have a dog.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah, pretty much every movie. If you're smart enough, you'll put a. You'll put a dog in there. Dog in there. At some point in there, even if it's just a dog you see like along the way or something, you know, I think that's good.

Nick Wiger

No dogs on arrakis. No, there's, there's muadib, but there's no dogs. Yeah, no dogs. Yeah, no moob dog. Anyway.

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Nick Wiger

We. Should move forward with the show. Yeah. Let's get to our fork scores. So, Johnny, you've done the show before.

The way we do this is that we will each go around, we'll give a closing argument, if you will, and then give it a score from zero to five forks. You are our guest sitting to my left. We'll begin with you, your thoughts, your. It seems like he's mad at me for the good boys, bad boys. I don't get.

Johnny Pemberton

No, I think you are. That you're deciding it maybe. Yeah, I'm a little on edge. Also, every time I look at you, he might be going back. It's like the cat that moves.

It advances every time you look back. Can you. Can you talk to me for a second? I can kind of check. So, yeah.

Hot exit. It was just significant. It was just real hot. I can't tell you. I can't tell.

Mike Mitchell

He's saying, fuck you, or if he's trying to get that apple piece. Yeah, I'm trying to get the apple out. Fingering his mouth. I was trying to get the apple out. Okay, I'm gonna go with three and a half.

Nick Wiger

Three and a half forks. So. Wow. You didn't necessarily have the best experience, but you're still pretty positive on it. You know what I like?

Johnny Pemberton

I think buffalo wild wings is not meant to be eaten without beer and without watching a game. I think you're supposed to go there, watch a game with at least two other people. Yeah. And you're supposed to go there and have a beer and stuff and just get. Get traditional menu items, like the fact that I got the boneless.

I'm not a boneless guy. I should have just stuck with the regular wings. What's saving me is those regular bone in honey Sriracha were really good. Yeah, those were great. They make a good wing.

The other stuff is pulling it away, so. And also. Yeah, I wasn't watching it. It just was, like a thing where. Yeah, not.

Not the best. Yeah. I think that they do a good fry on for a fast food place or chain restaurant. I guess in this scenario, they do a good fry on a chicken wing, and the chicken wings taste decent. Yeah.

Nick Wiger

What about the fries themselves? But you didn't get them. I didn't get the fucking fries, but my boneless were fried pretty well and that was the only thing that I had. I've been thinking about giving up fried food, which for this podcast would be impossible. Maybe.

Johnny Pemberton

Well, it might be a fun workaround. It's sort of like a challenge. Makes things better. Right? Look, I did.

Nick Wiger

I did a year of this podcast without eating any meat. You can do it. You can do it. You can figure it out. No, but I like that.

I like that for you. That year sucked. It was bad content. The whole year. The whole year is just a wash.

Mike Mitchell

I had a. I got it delivered. It was late at night. It caused gastrointestinal distress this morning. Now who's the wordsmith?

Nick Wiger

Look at you. I'm going to see a gastroenterologist pretty soon. You got one? I'm going. Yeah, I'm going.

Johnny Pemberton

I got the best one if you want. Really? I should. Yeah, cancel your appointment with this fucking loser, Johnny's guy. We should.

Mike Mitchell

Maybe we'll bleep. When I say this person's name, I wonder if it's the same person. Cedars. It is Cedars. Okay.

Johnny Pemberton

I probably know him. Doctor Sharma. Oh, it might be the same. Office is the place I go. Okay, sure.

Mike Mitchell

All right, we'll talk at. Sounds familiar. Okay. Doctor Sharma. Wow, really?

Doctor Sharmin. Well, now we gotta bleep Mitch. We gotta bleep that name. Doctor Shawarma. We gotta bleep that name a couple of times.

Nick Wiger

We gotta bleep your joke. We gotta bleep Emma's joke. No, we can live in dark, Charming, Charmin. We can leave that in. Can we?

Yeah, well, people know what that is.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah. They're gonna figure it out immediately. I'm gonna believe this whole thing. We leave in my joke. We leave in the Charmin joke.

Nick Wiger

The joke makes no sense without hearing the original James. You know what? Out em. I don't give a shit anymore. The hole's just getting deeper.

Mike Mitchell

It's too deep. You know what? They know who he is now we. Just have like a three minute long bleep.

What are they gonna do? Call up and be like, did Mitch get his stomach looked at? What the fuck are they gonna do? Who cares? And they'll say, stomach?

Johnny Pemberton

Do you mean lower intestines? Okay, you can say it. Sir, we are a doctor's office. You can say it. You can say it.

Did you shit into the baby's mouth again? Doctor Charna's like. Like yeah, I'm at the top of my field. Nice to meet you. Actually, my husband loves your podcast.

Nick Wiger

The pattern of fucking loser fans who are married to extremely successful people. Successful, attractive. Just the excel in every field. What was gonna be. What were we gonna.

Mike Mitchell

Oh, you're gonna do a doughboy fan. Oh, yeah. Moments past. Come on, let's hear it. No, I did the other side of the bit.

Nick Wiger

Okay, here, I'll read another alt from the. The roast earlier. Porn? No, instead of Ponyo. Ooh.

Mike Mitchell

Okay. Is that the idea that you jack off to your imagination? What's going on there? I mean, it could be. I mean, I guess porn.

No, I don't. I'm not, like, a big porn user, and I just, like, you know, I just feed the baby when the urge comes. But. But also, I guess, is. It's just weird.

Nick Wiger

A bit of a thinker. Yeah. Maybe just go for Ponyo to, like, froyo or something. Yeah, I like. I don't know.

Me, just make a food thing. By the way, I've looked at some porn. I look at some fucking. I see. I've seen porn.

Mike Mitchell

Trust me, I've seen it. What's it? What is it? What is it?

Johnny Pemberton

Prove it. It's just that funny thing. What is it? Why would I have to describe porn? Everyone knows what it looks like.

Sounds like someone who has never seen porn, if you ask me. Please. Please. What is it? Come on, what is it?

Mike Mitchell

You know, the stuff that goes on in it and. No, I don't know. Help me. Educate me. I don't know.

Johnny Pemberton

I don't know. I'm a baby. I don't know. We're so. I'm just baby.

Mike Mitchell

Look, we're so tight on time, I haven't even said Mike's fork review yet. Right wise. Yeah. No, you haven't said your fork score. But I got a p.

So involved, and that's an issue, too, so we. So is that important? Yeah. Hey, that could. That might be.

I mean, there's a lot of things that could be in it, so that might be one of the things. I don't know. I just. That's why I'm pretty sure that I think there might be, like, a tit in it. Porn.

Johnny Pemberton

A tit? Like. Like a cow? Was it a cow? There might be more.

Emma Erdbrick

A singleton. There might be. Look, wives, whether I've watched porn ever in my life or not, I have gone to buffalo. Wild wings. We know that for a fact.

Nick Wiger

Yes. You've gone with me. I've gone with you. You've gone with me. You know, I've had it.

Yeah. How many forks.

Mike Mitchell

For me? I'm going up from my last visit and I kind of got nostalgic for it. And I'm going for what they're trying to do, which is like, do any chain restaurants work in this? Or is it now? Have we gotten to the point where, like, a fancy restaurant in LA will last for like five years and then it will go away?

Is that like, what chain restaurants are going to become? I don't know, because I really don't. Buffalo Wild Wings is a huge chain and I don't even think it's on hard times, but I just feel like people aren't going to anymore. But that's maybe because I just am not going. Um, so I have no idea.

But I. I like it and I want to go back. I would love to go to Buffalo. The three of us went to Buffalo Wild wings together. I think it would be a blast.

Johnny Pemberton

Oh, yeah. Watching some NHL game. Maybe it would be. I think it'll be fun. What a hoot that would be.

Throwing back a couple wild ipas. Yeah. Minnesota Wilds on. Or maybe a different team. Or it could be a different team.

Nick Wiger

What if the Boston Bruins are playing Austin Bruins? I would be happy. Maybe my Los Angeles Kings. I don't watch hockey, but I would claim them as mine. Kobatar.

Sure. There you go. Now imagine if the la kings met king Henry VIII. Think I'm gonna go a little something like this. Well, excuse me.

Johnny Pemberton

Excuse me, young man. Stop skating, you fucking piece of shit. That's the NHL players. Probably a little more colorful than that. Have you seen slap shot lately?

Mike Mitchell

I have not, but I. I love that movie. That movie is fucking nasty. Is it really that movie? Talk about movies that can't be made.

Johnny Pemberton

Now, you couldn't make a single scene from that movie now. It is like the seventies rolled up into a blunt covered in jazz. It is like the most foul. Foul movie. Makes me want to put it on.

It is fucking nasty. Wow. I loved it. I got. I would love to look.

Mike Mitchell

Slap shot is a four forker for me. Slapshot. Maybe back in the day. Four and a half. Warcraft.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah, it's definitely. Yeah, but.

Nick Wiger

Jimmy is lit is below your seat. She is looking up at you. She wants me to just finish my thought. Yeah, finish your thought. Just say it.

Give her the moment. Four forks. Four forks. Four forks for buffalo Wildlife. It's a golden plate club member for me.

Johnny Pemberton

Okay. I get not. We gave it three last time. I get not going look, look, I. Think we're going to be ballpark buds here.

Nick Wiger

Cause we're all in the same neck of the woods. I will say that the last time we reviewed B Dubs, I was a little bit down on it, versus our first experience, which was great, but that was in person versus, you know, COVID lockdown. But also last time we reviewed it and I found this in the notes. I had a special lunchtime award that I don't think I've ever brought back. And I feel like, where would it be more fitting?

But on our next review of Buffalo Wild wings to revive Weiger's little nibbles at noon, which is my award for a great lunchtime treat. And I got to give it to the all american cheeseburger. All american cheeseburger gets Weiger's little nibbles at noon. I would get that burger. I can't believe that the fantastic.

Mike Mitchell

I can't believe it didn't come back. It's going to be a staple of the podcast from here on out. If I get a lunch, I'm giving out a Wegers little nibbles at noon. And I also do think my overall experience was better than last time. But I don't think it's quite in golden plate club territory.

Nick Wiger

I think this is a fun concept. I love the burger. I thought the wings were fine. I thought they were well made. But honestly, talking about what this place is trying to do.

Wings is in the name. Buffalo Wild Wings big wing chain. I'd rather go to Wingstop. I just think Wingstop has a better execution. I think they have a more streamlined concept.

Buffalo Wild wings. A lot of their menu is. There's a bunch of stuff that doesn't need to be on there. It's Unga Pachka. Wingstop really just the thing of being like, hey, we're just a storefront.

Mike Mitchell

We just gotta really worked out for them in the last five years. Absolutely did. That's how the cookie crumbles sometimes. Somehow, Weyger's little nibbles at noon is grosser than feeding the baby. I don't know how, but it's fucking.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah, in a way, it kind of is. It's like, okay, Uncle Nick, if you were to whisper that to a baby, that would be bad. Like a five year old. Like, you want to do Uncle Nick's nibbles at new? And he'll be like, immediately slap you and go play Fortnite.

Nick Wiger

I'm going to be in hand holding clubs with Johnny Pemberton. I'm going to say three and a half forks for Buffalo wild wings. A good experience. Yeah. And you're brave for choosing to have this because it is a very heavy meal that I think gave us all very spouts of intestinal distress.

Mike Mitchell

You get the Doughboys bravery award. Yeah. Well, you know, I think for me, wings is about. Part of the enjoyment is knowing that I'm gonna be. It's gonna hurt.

Nick Wiger

Yeah, sure. So it's like this thing where I'm playing a game with myself saying, okay, so you better enjoy this because this is a. You enjoy the moment. It teaches you to enjoy the moment. Cause you know it's gonna be so bad 12 hours later.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was. It was bad. My thought with all this is just like, the hooters in Burbank is closed, and it just feels like these. Like it to me.

I maybe have to go into a buffalo wild wings on a Friday night and just see what the deal is. But it feels like these communal chain restaurants are kind of dying in a way. They are. I mean, it's just, you know, it's just what's happening. It's a factor of.

Nick Wiger

Part of what I said earlier kind. Of makes me sad. Yeah. And also just the, you know, the long tail of COVID Hey, that was our review of Buffalo Wild Wings. Before we get fully off of it, Emma, we should acknowledge our video editor, Mike Dorfman.

Emma Erdbrick

Yeah, I forgot about this. Buffalo Wild Wings was the one and only. Was the cause of the one and only times he shit his parents. He's gonna love this. Shout out.

Johnny Pemberton

I asked permission before I say this. What sauce do you cut it? If he wants, you know, I don't know the sauce. I could ask him. I know he just had some wings.

Emma Erdbrick

I know it wasn't even a lot of food. And then it just, like, absolutely destroyed him. So we have never been to buffalo wildlings together. Hey, get up. Doctor Sharma.

Nick Wiger

I should also mention earlier, we were talking about tushy. I tried to shout out their URL and I just said, tushy.com dot. I looked it up as hellotushy.com. There you go. Tushy.com is.

Let me guess, an anal porn site. You know what that is? Yeah. What's going on there? Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, I know that. Yeah. I go to tushy.com all the time. Every time you go to the toilet. By the way wise, I was gonna say this.

I was gonna install. Instill fear in a person. Instill a dress code. Institute. Institute address code.

Nick Wiger

Institute address code. I didn't know what to go there. I was gonna say install. That doesn't work either. We get what you mean.

Johnny Pemberton

If this is the. Linguistics is descriptive, not prescriptive, so we get your meaning from install address code, even if it's not technically correct. Well, it's because Natalie was a linguistics minor. She knows a lot of this stuff much better than me. But it's like the whole thing.

Nick Wiger

Purpose of linguistics is to try to figure out how people communicate, not just not say what they should be saying, not, like, correct their grammar. But if you understand the meaning. If I say, dog, sit there, that's not, like, a proper english sentence, but you understand my meaning, right? You get that there's a dog next to you. I thought it was perfect.

Mike Mitchell

Well, the dress code that I want to buy only is to jemmy. I think Jemmy needs to come in with a tie every day. Okay, what kind of bow tie or a long tie? That would be very cute. A bow tie or a long tie?

I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Mitch doesn't want her to be naked anymore. Yeah, she needs to put something on. Makes you uncomfortable.

Yeah, makes you very uncomfortable. Very professional with a tie. That'd be a good look for. That's what I'm saying. Anyways, what is the damn.

What is the damn segment for the day, Mitch? Today's segment is slop quiz, foul play extraordinaire. Pass or quail toucan play at that game. No egrets edition. Sponsored by birdfuck.com.

Okay. Sponsored by birdfuck. Ameliamarino birdfuck. Birdfuck.com. That's our URL.

Nick Wiger

Emilia Moreno. You're the second person just a couple of weeks to respond very similarly to like. That's really cool. I like that. We like it, too.

So I've got. This is compiled by Amelia. This is a two part quiz. So we'll start with some bird related chew or false, so you can chime in with your name after I read the question and say. I say my name to buzz in.

Yeah. To buzz in. Yeah. And then say, chew or I'm gonna. Smoke you on this.

Johnny Pemberton

Just so you know. That's. Wow. I love this. I like the competitiveness.

Mike Mitchell

We'll see. Okay, first up, a cherducken is a dish consisting. Johnny, it's a turkey. Yep. With a duck.

Nick Wiger

Mm hmm. And a chicken. All right, this was a true or false question. Oh.

Do you want me to read the rest of it? Yeah, I guess so. A turducken is a dish consisting of a deboned duck stuffed into a deboned chicken stuffed into a deboned turkey. Is that true? It's true or false?

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah, yeah, Johnny. True, Mitch. False. Mitch gets it. What?

Mike Mitchell

They did it. The wrong order. Chicken goes inside the duck. That's right. Which you don't think you would think of, like, oh, well, a duck would be smaller than chicken.

Nick Wiger

It's like. No, a duck's bigger than a chicken. There's one thing you didn't think of. That this game is complete bullshit. That's true.

Johnny Pemberton

But also, if you roll back the tape, I did say turkey, duck, chicken. Yeah. Do you get it? I'll just. You know what?

Nick Wiger

I'm just gonna say no one gets that one. Oh, yeah, cool. Yes. Yeah, that'll be there, yeah. Okay, next up, number two.

Buffalo wings have no relation to the animal. True or false, Mitch? Johnny? I heard, Mitch. True.

Mike Mitchell

They're from Buffalo, New York. Yes, you are correct. You get it. I was gonna say the same fucking thing. Bitch.

Nick Wiger

Number three, this is a quick one. Your boy here is. Oh, I heard, Mitch. First.

It is illegal to eat eagle. Johnny. I heard, Johnny. Yes, it's illegal to eat eagle. Uh, it is true.

I will give it to you. The 1940 bald and golden eagle Protection act forbids hunting, poaching and possession of eagles. Next up, gastons are male chickens that have been castrated and fed a rich diet to improve the quality of their flesh for a more flavorful taste. Mitch, what was the. These are all true or false.

They're all true or false. By the way, no one has said it, but I'm gonna say chew. Oh, you're right. Yeah, Mitch, you're wrong. Do you lose a point?

I think you lose a point. I lose a point? I think you lose a point. Cause otherwise, then you could just buzz in first each time, and then guess whatever and have no consequence. You lose a point, so you're down to zero.

They're called capones. Gaston is a character from Beauty and the Beast. I knew Gaston was a. I knew it was beauty and the beast, but I thought maybe that's where it got the name from. Right now, you look like Lefou with that answer.

Mike Mitchell

I played Lefou when I was summer theater camp. I played Lefou. Wow. By the way, ever since you talk about eating eagle, my stomach has been growling. It really is growling.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah, we got him. He tried to eat eagles, sir. Yep, we got him. Two more true or false questions. Number five.

Nick Wiger

Flamingos can drink near boiling water. Johnny, this is just tough. Go ahead, Johnny. I'm gonna say false. No, it is true.

Johnny Pemberton

How the fuck do they know that? They can drink water at near boiling point to collect fresh waters from springs and geysers. Tough skin on their legs, prevents burns. I don't know that. What a fact.

I should have known. It's so specific, it had to be true. Yeah, that's what I thought. With the Gaston one. Yeah.

Nick Wiger

All right, you both have zero. Last one. Canadians as recently as the late. They both have zero. Last one.

Mike Mitchell

All right, here we go. Canadians are as recently as the late 18. Hundreds studied augury and used the behavior of chickens to predict the future.

Johnny Pemberton

Johnny. Go ahead, Johnny. It's in your hands. No, it's false. This was kind of a trick one because this was a practice.

Come on. But this was not Canadians. This was ancient Romans. The sacred chickens of Rome were known as the polarious. Okay.

Nick Wiger

Okay. Let's just say we're gonna throw out the previous round. This was all a warm up. Did you write these? No.

These are all from Amelia Marino, our associate producer. We have fire.

We have. Okay. The rest of these are worth double points. Players are allowed to consult a wingman for assistance. I guess that's Casey or Emma.

Johnny Pemberton

Casey or Emma, I guess. Okay, first one. Should I not be looking at the. Answers in my email? All right, so it's just Casey.

Nick Wiger

Your wingman is Casey. Okay. Number seven. An ostrich egg is the largest egg of any living land animal and can weigh as much as three pounds at around six inches long. And an ostrich egg is equivalent to.

I mean, you can buzz in if you want. You don't even know what I'm asking. Yeah, these aren't true or false, right? These are open ended? Yeah.

Johnny Pemberton

Yeah. Okay. Oh, there you go. So I guess I get to. I get to listen.

I get the answer. Yeah. Johnny gets answered. An ostrich egg is equivalent to how many chicken eggs. Closest guess wins.

An ostrich in what weight or size? I think in. I mean, it just says equivalent to how many. I'm guessing in terms of weight. Throw this question out.

Cause it hasn't been specified. How can I possibly answer? Cause am I talking about how many. Chicken eggs would it take to get the same food value as an ostrich egg? If you're like, making scrambled ostrich, you.

Tell them calories here or joules.

Nick Wiger

All right, we'll throw that one out. Number eight. A squab is another name for what common bird whose meat is considered a delicacy in some countries. I do know this one. Mitch Pigeon.

Mitch, you are correct. You get double points. Two points. You are in the lead. Two to zero.

Mike Mitchell

And also, I want to say 50 eggs for the ostrich eggs. Just out of curiosity, do you want to. This doesn't count. Do you want to take this? I'm going to say 30.

Nick Wiger

Johnny would have won. I mean, price is right rules. You both would have lost. It's 24 eggs. Mmm.

Mike Mitchell

Keefer. Like Kefir Sutherland or the yogurt drink.

Nick Wiger

Maryland Ricega was on 24. Your friend. Yeah. Our past guest. Our friend.

Mike Mitchell

Our friend. Our friend. Number. I can say our friend. We've met a couple of times.

Nick Wiger

I said the podcast twice. Our friend. Number nine. Which organ is harvested in duck or goose? In the popular french delicacy no deliver, it is the liver.

You're both knotted up at two apiece. Wow. Number ten. This one will decide at all. There is a Tiber breaker.

Molly Shyler holds the world record for eating how many wings in a 30 minutes period. Closest guess wins. Closest guess wins. Yeah. 89.

Mitch, do you want to guess a 30 minutes period? Yeah. Whoo. I'm going to go just 100. Mitch wins it, but you both way undershot it.

Johnny Pemberton

Wow. Because of the 2018 wing bowl in Philadelphia, Molly Shyler ate a staggering 501 wings. Holy shit. What the fuck? That's like a backseat of a car or something like that.

Nick Wiger

So many wings. Yeah. I think that we should. I think the competitive spirit is in me. I think that this bonus question should be for the.

Okay, but bonus question to decide it. Or if you make it three points, then it would decide it anyway. Okay, great. Here it is. Buffalo Wild Wings is owned by the same company as what other chain, Johnny?

Mike Mitchell

I should know this. It is pot belly sandwiches. You know what? It might be pot belly sandwiches. But the one.

Nick Wiger

The answer here is Arby's. But I'm going to look it up because there are a bunch of different options. It's Arby's. Wow. Foreign capital owns Inspire brands, which owns a bunch of different brands, including, I think, Culver's.

Let me look it up. Oh, I feel like I might be wrong then. I like Potbelly as a good corporation owns Potbelly. I think they're still their own thing. Yeah.

Mike Mitchell

I thought pot Belly was a good. I thought that was a good guess. Hold on. Roark Capital Group. I mean, this is one of those grim, like, late capitalism things where it's.

Johnny Pemberton

Like, you know, three people own everything anyways. It's a private equity for firm that owns a bunch of different restaurants, and then also a bunch of different gyms and, like, the math nasium and then a bunch of weird, like, you know, environmental and light bulb and recycling firms. Anyway, they own inspire brands. They own CKE restaurants. We talked about this, which is Carl's, Junior Hardee's, Green burrito, and Red burrito.

Nick Wiger

They also own the cheesecake factory. They own Culver's. They have a minority investment in Culver's. They own Jim and Nick's barbecue restaurants. And then their big holding is Inspire brands, which is Arby's and Buffalo Wild wings, but also sonic drive in, Jimmy John's, Dunkin Mister donut, and Baskin Robbins.

So, yeah, I think we're just gonna toss that question out and say it's a draw. Everyone wins. More like everybody loses.

Just like a restaurant without your feedback. Let's open up the feedback. Today's email is from the Fin man. The Fin man writes. Hi, doughboys.

This is Finn from Sacramento, California's capital. I often use the same combination of spices. If it made what I consider to be my signature spice blend. If you could make a doughboys branded signature spice blend, what spices would be in it? I know it wouldn't be in it.

The spice melange. That's true. That's true. I'd want that. I want the spice.

I do want it. But it's such a valued commodity. I'm not gonna waste it on a doughboy spice blend. I'm gonna use it so that my navigators in the spacing guild can fold space. That's what it does.

Yeah. Yeah. You basically just tripping balls. It's like a psychoactive chemical that lets you. Your brain fucking space is.

Mike Mitchell

It's like, tripping. No, it's like they're actually doing it. Oh, got it. Do you know that cat's eyes are blue when they're babies and they. They turn green?

Nick Wiger

Wow. It's much like the. Much like the characters in Dune. Yeah, like reverse Fremen. They are.

Mike Mitchell

They're very much reverse Fremen. Lisa Nagaib.

And also, they're digging around in Kitty litter, which is a lot like sand in many ways.

This is a great question. Cause I don't really know the answer to it. Thank you, Finn, one of the great Star wars characters. Oh, my God. You guys are in deep.

Nick Wiger

Here's what I was going to say on the spice blend tip. So I got a Montreal steak seasoning and McCormick one from Costco, and it was like a big fucking, like. It's like a 40 ounce thing. Yeah, it is good. I've been using it for, like, a year and a half.

This jar is still, like, a third full. And I use it. I mean, it's not just. I don't make steaks all that often, but I will as an occasional indulgence. But I use it on chicken.

I use it on fish. Yeah. It works on everything. It's great. Yeah.

But a Montreal steak blend is, like, garlic, paprika, and just pepper. Yeah. There's onion flakes in there, too. I don't know. I think that's fun.

Mike Mitchell

I think maybe we could create one together here. Cause I don't know how well I'm gonna look. You are correct. There's only a few minutes left here in the episode. I think that we can do this.

Johnny Pemberton

I mean, I love a homemade lemon pepper dill. Yeah. Lemon pepper dill is fun. Yeah. Dill is a nice little.

Mike Mitchell

You don't get dill too often, but I like a nice dill. I don't throw some garlic in there, too. Why not? I'm a huge garlic guy. We need garlic in there.

This. In this. In this sauce. What is this, a spice? It's the signature spice blend.

Johnny Pemberton

I've been making. A cilantro lime dip. How fun is that? So this is so, so this is. This is a dry.

Mike Mitchell

Like a dry rub, basically. Okay. Yeah. I mean, yeah. You know, that's.

Nick Wiger

I honestly, like. I like the. I'll buy just a fucking. It's. They're easy to make on your own, too, but, like, I'll buy just, like, a pre made spice blend.

Johnny Pemberton

Sure. It's just, like, super easy to season your food. You know, think about it. We got garlic, we got dill, and then what do you. Did you want lime in there?

I think lemon. Lemon zest. Lemon zest. Okay. That gives you that lemon, that pop.

Mike Mitchell

Yeah, lemon zest. Garlic, dill. This is interesting. I think we gotta put some heat in here. Yeah.

Nick Wiger

Cause I'm gonna have cayenne. Yeah, little cayenne. Cayenne. Cayenne and chili flakes. Why not?

I also really like a smoked paprika. Not just a paprika, but a smoked paprika. All right, we got smoked paprika. We got chili flakes, we got cayenne, we got dill, we got lemon zest. Yeah.

Johnny Pemberton

Touch a cumin. Throw some cumin. Just a little, though. Just a little bit. Because Cumans.

That's it takes up a lot of room. Hold it in. A lot of space. Baron Harkonnen. We need those tensors to get cumin in there.

Mike Mitchell

Cumin. I like that. You know what I'm gonna say? Yeah. Oh, we said, did we say onion?

Nick Wiger

Yeah, we didn't, but we should throw it in there. Some onions, dehydrated onions, dehydrated onion I like too. Pretty good. I'm an onion powder guy, right? Maybe we do both.

Sure, why not? This is gonna be like everything but the kitchen sink. Spice rub. It is. It is.

Mike Mitchell

It's a lot. You know what we call this spice blend? Unga pachka Doughboy's unga pachka spice blend. It's our version of everything. Spice blend.

We're here with the brand, man. We're here with the brand, man. Let's go. Branding.

Honestly, I'd be interested if I saw this spice. If I saw this spice blend at the market. I think pretty interesting, especially if it. Had you guys logo on there. Got a little fat cartoons on.

Johnny Pemberton

Virgins back there. If Giorgio Clooney can do tequila, what's stopping you guys from doing spice? I think it's pretty good. I think it's pretty good. I think this is a fun question, a fun exercise.

Nick Wiger

It's challenging because it's like you start to think of all your spices you like, but it's like when you're making your fucking chipotle bowl, it's like, well, if I get everything, this is just gonna be madness. Right? I gotta exercise some restraint. Are we good with that? Is there one more thing we're missing?

Mike Mitchell

I mean, how about some salt and pepper, well salts? You have to. Yeah, you gotta have that in there. I think that's maybe implied filler. Maybe a little xanthan gum, some maltodextrin.

Nick Wiger

Yeah, sure. Yeah. You want throw some more additives in there? Yeah. Little anti cake in there.

Yeah. Oh, maybe, you know what? I got one last thing that we could throw in there. Some sort of parmesan y, some sort of cheesy element. I worry about it spoiling at that point.

Right? You want it to be shelf stable? Fine. Fine, fine. I was just trying to have some fun.

Johnny Pemberton

You could have, like, a yeast. What's it called? A nutritional yeast. Yeah, maybe that could work. That could work.

Nick Wiger

That is fun. I was just trying to have some fun. Forget, let's just end the episode. You really fucked up that whole thing, trying to have fun there. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at feedback birdfuck.com or leave us a voicemail.

Eight, 30, go to. That's 830-463-6844 and you can get the Doughboys double our weekly bonus episode, plus our entire pre 2018 back catalog. Subscribe@patreon.com doughboys. Our producer is Emma Erdbrick. Our associate producer is Amelia Marino.

Our engineer is Casey Donahue. Our video editor is Mike Dorfman, who shit his dance from Buffalo Wild Wings. That's right. Yeah. The oven fries guy.

Mike Mitchell

Let's go, Brandon. He's here. Putting on sunglasses, putting on sunglasses. Putting on a waffle house hat, which we did not discuss. Have you guys ever done waffles?

Nick Wiger

We have. We did it in the south with, with Carl and with molasses. If you want to do it again, I'll come back. I would love to do. I would love to do it again.

I had a great experience with Waffle House. There's no. There's no doubt here. How have they not when La does all, you know, every chain eventually makes it here. How is the waffle house?

Mike Mitchell

Never done it. Yeah, we have worse versions of all the national chains. We have a lot of. Just a lot of chains we don't have here. Aren't there, like, I mean, Culver's we.

Nick Wiger

Mentioned earlier is not out here. So there's some of the ones. I think it's good that some stuff stays regional because we don't want, like, in the same. Look, Mitch, I'm not taking a shot at you, but, like, there's this shitty Dunkin donuts out here. We don't need a shitty waffle house.

Mike Mitchell

It's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Cuz waffles is kind of nice. It's. It's rough.

Nick Wiger

Yeah. Yeah. I just. I would like to have waffle. I would.

I love waffle. Love. I love it. Love it. It would also be just like, insane and hard to go to.

Mike Mitchell

And it would be packed constantly. If there was one waffle house, it's. Gotta be so packed. It'd be the worst. Well, we went to that fucking.

Nick Wiger

What, the one cracker barrel in southern California when we went out there. Yeah, it was a madhouse. Our guest today, Johnny Pemberton. Fallout is now streaming on prime Video. Plug the show.

Congratulations on the show franchise. Very cool, very fun, very wild. Very big, big scope. Fun watch. Wow.

Johnny Pemberton

It's gonna be interesting to see what people think about. I think they're gonna like, you know. I'm looking at, you know, to break out characters from two post apocalyptic video game. We're video game brothers. It's true.

Mike Mitchell

It's true. Twisted metal and fallout. That's right? Yeah. God, that's true.

Yeah. Hell yeah, dude. Congratulations. Anything else you want to plug? I got a bunch of shows coming up, but I'm trying to get the exact dates.

Johnny Pemberton

I got shows in New York in July at the Soho playhouse, and I got some shows in the midwest in September, but you can see them on my website, Johnnypemberton dog. Or you can. That's what it is. Or you can look it up on my instagram, which is just my name. You'll see it if you want to go, you'll find it.

You know what I mean? There you go. I love it. Wow. Hey, that'll do it for this episode of doughboys.

Nick Wiger

Until next time for the spoon man, Mike Mitchell. I'm Nick Weiger. Happy eating.

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Johnny Pemberton

That was a headgum podcast.