Morgan Stewart McGraw: Boobs and Loubs (FBF) [VIDEO]

Primary Topic

This episode explores the world of fashion and personal style, emphasizing the importance of maintaining one's unique identity amidst changing trends.

Episode Summary

In a candid chat with Alex Cooper on "Call Her Daddy," Morgan Stewart McGraw delves into her journey from reality TV to fashion icon. She discusses her transition from the "Rich Kids of Beverly Hills" to hosting multiple shows on E! and how motherhood has shifted her style priorities. The episode is filled with humorous anecdotes about fashion faux pas, the challenges of styling post-pregnancy, and her approach to personal style, which she describes as classic with a twist. Morgan also gives practical advice on wardrobe essentials that withstand changing trends, reflecting on how her style has evolved with her changing life roles.

Main Takeaways

  1. Style Evolution: Morgan Stewart discusses how her fashion sense has evolved, emphasizing practicality and classic styles over fleeting trends.
  2. Personal Identity: She stresses the importance of maintaining a unique personal identity through style, regardless of societal expectations.
  3. Practical Fashion Advice: Morgan offers actionable fashion advice, advocating for investment in timeless wardrobe staples.
  4. Influence of Motherhood: Her style choices are now influenced by her role as a mother, blending functionality with fashion.
  5. Fashion and Personality: Morgan believes that fashion is a reflection of personality and should express individuality rather than conform to trends.

Episode Chapters

1: Introduction

Morgan Stewart McGraw is introduced, setting the stage for a discussion on fashion, personal identity, and style evolution. She reminisces about her start in the fashion industry.

  • Morgan Stewart McGraw: "It's been a journey from reality TV to where I am today, embracing classic styles."

2: Personal Style and Fashion Philosophy

Morgan shares insights on her personal style philosophy, emphasizing the importance of timeless pieces over trendy ones. She discusses how her fashion choices have changed after becoming a mother.

  • Morgan Stewart McGraw: "You need to find what works for you and stick with it, regardless of the trends."

3: Wardrobe Essentials

The discussion shifts to wardrobe essentials. Morgan lists items every woman should own, advocating for quality over quantity.

  • Morgan Stewart McGraw: "Invest in pieces that you can wear time and again, like a good pair of jeans or a classic blazer."

4: Style Tips for Busy Moms

Morgan offers style tips for busy moms, highlighting the need for functional yet fashionable clothing that can keep up with a mother's busy schedule.

  • Morgan Stewart McGraw: "As a mom, your wardrobe needs to be functional but still reflect who you are."

5: Concluding Thoughts

The episode wraps up with Morgan’s thoughts on how fashion can empower and reflect one's life changes.

  • Morgan Stewart McGraw: "Fashion is more than clothes; it's about expressing who you are at different stages of your life."

Actionable Advice

  1. Invest in Quality Staples: Opt for high-quality basics that can form the foundation of any outfit.
  2. Embrace Personal Style: Wear what makes you feel confident and true to your identity.
  3. Functionality is Key: Choose outfits that are not only stylish but also practical for your lifestyle.
  4. Update Classics with Accessories: Refresh classic looks with modern accessories to keep your style current without overhauling your wardrobe.
  5. Plan Outfits in Advance: Save time and reduce stress by planning your outfits ahead of time, especially for busy days.

About This Episode

Morgan Stewart McGraw joins Call Her Daddy to give us the advice we all need to hear. Morgan hits us with some hard fashion truths … say goodbye to your cut-out dresses, wedges, and even your beloved ankle boots. She opens up about her marriage to musician Jordan McGraw, and discusses how the two found their way back to each other after almost ten years apart. Morgan shares what it’s like to have Dr. Phil as a father-in-law and whether or not it’s too much living in the same city as your parents and in-laws. The pair discuss everything from weddings and the end of bridesmaids as we know it, to celebrity hall passes, to befriending strangers when drunk, and more.

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Transcript

Morgan Stewart
What is up, daddy? Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper. With call her daddy. Morgan Stewart.

Alex Cooper
Welcome to call her daddy. Thank you so much. I'm so excited. I am so excited to have you here. You got your start on rich kids of Beverly Hills.

Morgan Stewart
Yes, I did shout out. Yes. You transitioned to host multiple shows on e multiple. Yes. You have impeccable style.

Thank you. I appreciate that. You make it look effortless, like, unachievable. You're the kind of person that I'm, like, screenshotting and trying to, like, remake it good. I don't ever remake it well, but, like, you're the inspo.

I like that. How did you pick your outfit today? I'm very Gen. I'm in my Gen Z feelings today, so this is the first time I've ever worn these shoes, and I bought them because I was like, I need to be. I'm a mother now, so I need to be able to wear things that are convenient to running around.

And I was like, I'm never gonna wear them. And then I was like, you know what? Today is the fucking day. I'm putting them on. And then I had these pants.

They don't actually look good on me, but I always. This is my feet. They don't. The pleats in the front make me look like. Like they're warping my thighs inward.

But I will tell you, I am very big on everything I buy. I make sure to wear it once, even if it was the wrong choice. If I have not returned it, I always want to make sure that I've at least put it on my body so it's not a waste. And that's really how this all happened. And then I was gonna wear a navy turtleneck.

Oh. Do we have enough time to listen to all this bullshit? Yeah, I was gonna wear a navy turtleneck, and it read too dark, so then I grabbed this, and then I was like, is this too much like a teacher? That's how it came together, and I just left. I'm just geeking because I'm so happy your shoes are clean, because this is a disaster set.

Alex Cooper
And I tell you, when people come on with the dirt, can't have it. I was also going to tell you they are. They have not been in the world. I have never had someone go into that much detail when I asked them that question, and I actually appreciate it. I like to give you an experience.

How do you describe your style? Ooh, it's classic with a little bit of a flair. I don't get into the trends I try to avoid it. I've been able to get into the trends lately because my husband has more accessible income. So I can, like, fuck up more.

I love. But if you are on a budget, you should be buying a white and a black t shirt, two pairs of jeans, black and blue, a black blazer, a beige blazer, and, like, keep it moving. Don't get into the, like, croppy tops. If you have to replenish your closet a lot, don't do that. Just go with the basics.

Morgan Stewart
Just go with the basics. Because they never, ever, ever leave. That's why they're called classic. Like, getting into the, like, Barbie stripper vibe. Right now I can't do it.

Alex Cooper
So you're just taking your husband's credit card swiping? Well, no, I have my own. His account. Oh, love that. Oh, no.

So you're not spending your own money? No, ladies, this is. No, I'm not. I gave two children to this person. Two in one year and one day apart.

Morgan Stewart
Okay. I mean, superwoman. Yeah, it was a lot, but it was amazing. The best thing I've ever done. And so you earned this?

I've earned it. And I will tell you. Cause I get on this tangent and I'm always like, I'm not the. It is still a little bit strange for me. Cause I'm somebody that has my own money.

I'm still getting paid out at e. Shout out, shout out. So I really, you know, a part of me is like, well, I could just pay for this, but I just feel like, let him. Let him. Right?

Alex Cooper
Let him save. Yeah. Yeah. You go have a kid. Exactly.

Morgan Stewart
Exactly. What is a current fashion trend that you love? Even though I know you said you don't like trends, if you had to pick. I think the sneakers right now, I feel like sneakers are really big. I feel like girls are wearing them all the time.

And that's something that I'm getting more into. That's. That's what I like. Are you into the dad sneakers? Like the new balance?

I am. And by the way, I had those in the 7th grade. Things always come back. It's crazy. But I haven't gotten a pair.

They've been hard to find. I got one pair recently, and someone that I work with complimented me on them, and I was ecstatic because I didn't really know. I'm sometimes just going with it. I think this looks good, but I didn't really know for sure. And then I put them on, and within an hour, someone complimented me on them.

Alex Cooper
And I'm like, oh, my God. I'm in the right lane. I know what I'm kind of doing. I'm happy these are back. They never left for me.

Morgan Stewart
Doesn't matter. Whatever year, I'm obsessed with an Ugg. And I will do like an Ugg. An Ugg to the knee. To the knee.

I'll do it. Oh, yeah. Did you ever get rid of yours? Never. Thank God.

I had to get rid of one black pair. Cause they were really. They had seen the light of day. It was disgusting. I had the sand color when I was in 7th grade.

Alex Cooper
Yeah, I had to throw them out cause they were to the knee and they were just at that point, brown, brown. So it wasn't as cute. I get it. The Uggs, when people are like, they're so ugly. No, they're not.

And they're comfortable. Amazing. And even like the super cropped ones with the platform now I'm trying to get my hands on those, but I can't find them.

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Alex Cooper
I just moved into my new house. Okay. And I've heard that you're the queen. Queen of organization. I am.

Morgan Stewart
Really? I've become. I need, like, a little tip for all the girlies listening and for myself. What is an organization tip that you have? That's just a good go to to remember when we're trying to organize our closets.

Organize your closet based on season. So now I'm transferring summer things out. I don't care what anyone says. California. We still have seasons.

Yeah, it's fall. No linen. No. Even my son was in linen yesterday. I was like, oh, no, Chris, no linen.

He's not in linen anymore. It's October. How old is your son? Eight months. But why are we in the linen joggers?

He has new sweat joggers. Who put him in linen joggers? My nanny. I was like, no, Chris, no. Oh, we can't do that.

Alex Cooper
So you had to be like, listen, we're not in season. No, we're not in season. No linen. Do you like how your husband dresses? I.

Morgan Stewart
Oh, this is such a question. Okay, so I really love the way my husband dresses. I will say, and I a sign of a mature relationship and how I've grown is I also do not control it. He can wear what he wants. I don't have the energy to change.

Things are not stylistically, completely on the same page. But I appreciate what he wears. Cause it works for him. The transition where. Why are you asking me?

Everything that's going on in my life, the things that we transition now, it's the transitioning from day to night where I would like it to be a little bit more formal, but we're having a hard time finding that happy medium. Cause he still wants to be himself. And I'm like, but just wear the crewneck sweater and the jacket. Right, but he's. Does he get annoyed by you when you try to tell him what to do?

Like, it's not a conversation. And he's, like, a silent, strong person. He's not allowed strong person. Which is actually worse. I know, because I'm like, oh.

He's like, has this power over me, but nobody usually does. Yes, but I do like it. Is that normal in your relationships that you usually have the power? Oh, yeah. Usually, like, dominate and, like.

And completely, like, you know, I overpower people, but I feel like the people that have been in my life in the past that I dated have always somewhat wanted to. We've. They've almost wanted to be like me. Does that make sense? In a way?

Like, I exude, like, a strength that I think is appealing to males, and then they're like, whoa, this is maybe too much, but with my current husband, I don't need to do that because we're just really balanced. That's really interesting. I can relate to that of, at first, they're so attracted to it, and then they get in the relationship with you, and then it's a full for sure thing, and that's when they get the most insecure. But in the dating phase, they love it. And then you settle down, and it's like.

Alex Cooper
It's the same thing as when girls are like, wait, why did you like when I posted bikini photos when we weren't fully exclusive, but now that we are, you're, like, all scared and you're going and running and liking other girls bikini photos. Pick a fucking lane. Pick a lane. That's really interesting. Okay, so the husband dresses to your liking.

Morgan Stewart
Yes, he does. But, like, you could elevate a little bit. I would. I wouldn't even elevate it. I would transition small things, and I'm only talking about at night, so mine.

Alex Cooper
Is kind of the opposite, which is so strange. My boyfriend, I've never dated a man like this. Has the best taste. Oh, my God, it's so nice, right? He really knows how to dress and he really understands design.

Like, we just redid our house and he was like, we don't need to get that big of a designer. Cause, like, I know what we need. Smart. And it's, like, shocking to be. If anything, it makes me insecure because I'm usually the one, the guys that I've ever dated, I'm like, I don't give a fuck what you think.

I'm wearing this relationship. I'm like, okay. He has better taste and I have. To accept that, which is honestly, that's so smart because I feel like my husband accepts it but doesn't think our taste is as different as it is. Even though it's not.

I think that's a feel like it's so fucking different. Shout out. Shout out for listening to me. It's. It's very.

Morgan Stewart
It's. That is very smart of you because it's so nice to have that, right? Just accept it. Yes. Someone's gonna have better style and taste.

Alex Cooper
Lean into that totally. Rather than try to just totally equal. Not everything has to be equal in a relationship. I agree with you. Okay, good.

Morgan Stewart
Yes. What is your take on matching your children's outfits? Is mommy and daughter gonna be wearing the same thing and are your children gonna be wearing the same thing? No and no. Absolutely fucking not.

Like, you don't have friends. Like, you don't need to dress your kids to you. Like, you don't. Didn't you do that when you were in 7th grade? Your friend skirt.

Alex Cooper
My mother, she made my sister and I wear the same things for, like. Christmas, but that is also, like, a traditional thing. And I feel like that's also. That was our parents generation. True.

Morgan Stewart
I feel like that's like, I get the Christmas photos and you're in the little blue dress or whatever. Do you send out a holiday card? Oh, my God. I haven't, but I guess I'm going to this year. Why?

Because I feel like I should do that. It's a mature, nice thing. It's like a way to send a photo of your family with, like, it being in line with it being like, it's fine. It's an excuse to get a photo. Out of you guys, right?

So, yes, I will send a holiday card out. I did not send one last year. Are you going to be figuring out the outfits? Yes. Okay, wait.

I did a photo shoot with my kids and they did wear the same outfit. I forgot. But can I tell you, they were leggings. They were. He was, like, three months old, and she was.

However old she was, and it was. They were in, like, beige leggings and a long sleeve shirt. Like, it was like pajamas. It wasn't. And we were all in beige.

My husband's so mad at me about everyone being in beige. Completely contradict. I never have my kids match. Oh, my God. But by the way, it wasn't, like, it wasn't supposed to be a fashion statement.

They were just supposed to blend in, if that makes sense. I get that. Okay. Just. You wanted your kids to blend in if you wanted to stand out.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's good. Do you think your daughter's gonna have the same personality as you? Yeah.

Alex Cooper
How are you gonna deal with that? I don't know. She already brings me to my knees. Really? Really is so strong.

Morgan Stewart
You can really tell about. You can tell who's gonna be the fucking loser, who's not gonna have friends. I'm kidding. I'm so kidding. Friends.

I'm like, oh, dork. No, I love it, by the way. It's hilarious because every mom thinks that. Every mom analyzes it. But I will say, I think that.

I can tell she's extremely sweet inside, genuinely. And I'm not saying that. Cause she's mine. And then there is a side that's quite fierce and strong willed. So I do think we're quite alike.

Alex Cooper
Where do you think you got that from? You know, my parents. I feel like I'm very much like my mom, but she's less crazy and less like she's crazy in her own way, but not as outward as I am. Right, right. She's a little bit more conservative, a little bit more dialed back.

Did you get in trouble in school at all? So this is so weird, because every person I've ever been interviewed by in this context has always asked me that and always asks my mom that. And I never got in trouble. I was never late for curfew. I never.

Morgan Stewart
It was only in my early twenties that it was a little messy because I was kind of in love and dating the wrong person. And by dating like, I was dating him, he was not dating me. Oh, love that. I was like, well, I'm coming over. He's like, no.

And I was like, no, I'm coming over. And that's when I think my mom called me a few times because I was like, you know, I had been in college, and then I left college, and she was like, what the. What the. Where are we going here? What the fuck are you doing with your life?

Alex Cooper
I think why people probably ask you that is because I think you have this very, like, outspoken, confident nature about you, that I would see you as the person in class telling the teacher that he had the answer wrong. So you were just not like that. I was not like that, but I also struggled, like, intensely in school. I had a really hard time. I definitely had, like, severe learning disabilities that were not diagnosed till, like, my senior year of high school.

Morgan Stewart
It was like, she's failing math every year. What's wrong? Let's ignore it and keep her going. And then in senior year, they're like, you're not gonna graduate. So I had to go do a night school and pass the class.

I had to see a math psychologist because I had such a bad learning disability. So I couldn't. I didn't. To be honest with you, I don't know how I know how to spell, so I could never. I was not like that.

So I kind of just shut my mouth as much as possible. Okay. That makes sense. Cause, like, you weren't confident in that aspect. So you're like, I'm just gonna sit here and listen.

Alex Cooper
But then outside of the school doors, you're, like, running shit. Exactly. Like the playground. You're thriving. Oh, yeah.

Just not where the desks are. Exactly. That makes a lot of sense. Yes. And I think that's great for your career also.

That worked out. Exactly. Got a great personality. Thank God. Okay.

What is the hot take that you currently have? I know you had a show on e. Obviously. Necessary realness. Are you sad it's done?

Morgan Stewart
No, I just think that's the stupidest decision anyone could have made. I mean, literally, like, the Du. Like you, you know, how many people do you interview? How many people really impress you? Good talent is hard.

Alex Cooper
Oh, it's very hard. And somebody being manufactured by, like, whatever circumstance they're around that makes them popular doesn't mean that. Oh, so they kicked you off? Oh, they ended the shows. They ended the shows.

Morgan Stewart
They put an end to nightly pop, daily pop. And they were like, we're gonna sunset. Necessary realness. I will tell you, necessary realness was like my little show. I love doing it.

I love the people that worked on it. I definitely was. It's not a negative because it was time for me to go and figure out what I really wanna do. But are they coming up with new shows to replace you guys? I have no idea.

They're doing an e news reboot so they're bringing back the show that they got rid of five years ago. Oh, that sounds relevant. Uh huh. And so they're doing that. I don't know.

And beyond that, I don't know. But I will tell you, I saw psychic when I was redoing my contract last year, and he said I would sign this deal. You're not gonna be in it for the remainder of the time you've signed up. And I was. Maybe they work for enews.

Alex Cooper
Maybe your psychic is low key working. His psychic has told me things. You. He told me that I was gonna name my son with a g name. I was like, yeah, right, Gary, who the fuck has a g name?

Morgan Stewart
There's no way. Like, there's no possible way my son's gonna have a g name. It's Gray and it's Gray. It's a good name. Yeah, it's a good name.

Right. So now I need the psychic's number. Oh, I'll give it to you. He is. He will change your life.

No, it's like, not. It's like he's a medium. It's no joke. Were you sad the day it happened? I was emotional because I had been with everybody for so long, but I genuinely.

I had done six years of 05:00 a.m. Wake ups. I was doing at one point the most. I was doing four shows a day. I mean, I worked like, it's not physically possible or sustainable to work the way I worked.

I'm grateful for the experience, but I was. I was. It was a mutual feeling of, okay, it's time to move on. I had been feeling like I had hit the ceiling there. Was it affecting your relationship or anything?

It wasn't affecting my relationship with my husband now. It wasn't? No, it was fine. He knew I wanted to do this, but also, we were in the pandemic, so the last few years hadn't been consistent. And then I also had two babies in two years.

So I, like, it was. It was the perfect time to part ways. Wow. Yeah. I have so much respect for how you manage that show because you kept it so real.

Alex Cooper
And I think sometimes on tv, especially those formats can come off a little, like, scripted and stuffy and just like, a little like, do I believe that's actually her personality? And you were, like, fully able to be yourself, which is great. And they did a good job with that because they had to edit out quite a bit to keep it safe too. A little bit. That's great.

Yeah, that's great. So shout out to them. Shout out. Thank you. Yes.

What is a hot take? Let's pretend we're on the show. What is a hot take that you currently have? So it's hilarious because my pr sent me this. Like, that was a question.

Morgan Stewart
I was like, what's a hot take? So I asked my agent, I was like, what is a hot take? Like, what is it? She goes, well, hot take I have is that you can be friends with your ex. Everyone's friends with their exes.

And I was like, I'm gonna steal that. And I'm gonna credit you. I always credit people, by the way. Love that. I never take someone's fashion.

Nothing. I always credit. Well, you can't. You'll get cancelled. Yeah, exactly, by the way.

And I then was really thinking about it, and I was like, no, you can't. Wait. No, you can't. No, you can't. She was like, I'm gonna read you the quote.

Alex Cooper
Read me the fucking quote because I'm gonna read it. We could do a whole episode on this. No, you can't. Because only if you are in a new relate. If you're in a relationship, if you're single, sure, be friends with all your fucking exes.

Morgan Stewart
Also, by the way, I was gonna pull it up and I was like, it's so much, but just read it. The reality is that if you're so able to be friends with your ex, then why are you breaking up? Right. Okay. So I said that I think there are a lot of factors that go into make, literally my homework.

Do you love it? I think there are a lot of factors that go into making a relationship work and making someone your person, your long term partner. I have a laundry list of reasons I am not with exes, but there are definitely a lot of reasons I like them in the first place. That stuff still exist. The majority of people on this planet are people you will not have a connection to, not have any chemistry with.

And so when you find someone you actually connect with, that's rare and wonderful. And just because it doesn't work out romantically for you, why does that mean those people should be out of your life completely? Let's talk about this. It's no fucking way. Okay, tell me your take on that.

I don't think it's. First of all, I don't what you said I think is accurate. I think you cannot be friends with an ex unless you were not ever in love with them and you didn't share a genuine romantic connection. Because if you're walking away from the relationship so easily and able to revisit, then why separate at all? No, I completely agree.

Alex Cooper
I think I've had relationships where I'm like, oh, like. Like one of my college boyfriends. I'm like, oh, like, he was so cute, and, like, I just walked all over him, and I feel bad for that. And, like, he's such a good guy, and, like, if I ever saw him, we'd be totally chill. Totally.

I'm not texting him. Absolutely not. That's so strange. And also, why do you want. If you want to be friends with them, you probably want to be in their lives for other reasons.

Morgan Stewart
I just don't. But it works for her. There's no, like. But I agree with the sentiment of, like, I don't hate everything about them. Of course not.

Alex Cooper
But you take that with you, and you move along. You move along. You don't need to be marinating over there in that, like, ooh. Like, I love this part of him, so I want to, like, keep it. Keep it going in my life.

Morgan Stewart
Exactly. Well, I think that if you're single, you can absolutely be friends with X. I would say be cautious about that, though, because then you're not moving forward, and you may just keep going back into awful cycle. However, the minute you get a new partner, the only way to be able to have, like, a healthy relationship is to move on from your past relationships. Someone that's been inside you or you've been inside them or putting something in whatever hole.

I get it. Let's just move on. Move on. You can totally respect. Agreed.

Alex Cooper
But it doesn't need to be a texting buddy, buddy. Let's get lunch every week. Okay. But didn't I get. I did my homework because that's a hot take, right?

Morgan Stewart
I got us. I was impressed with you. Yeah. Did you do your homework for this question? What was the next question?

Because I was wasted for four days last week. What other questions? Wait, where were you again? I went to Napa for my husband's birthday. And, I mean, we.

We did not. I mean, today is even a struggle for me. Are you okay? I'm okay. You look great.

Thank you. Well, I got a glam for an hour and a half. I was like, tammy, we got till 1015. I'm not gonna be late. She's like, your eyes are small.

I'm like, I don't care. You need to just do the mascara. She's like, more lashes. I said, it's 11:00 a.m. We don't need more lashes.

Tammy, I'm leaving. So that's it. I think you look great. You look so beautiful. Everything is put together.

Alex Cooper
Your teacher outfit? Is that what you said? Literally? It's my teacher. I literally, by the way, it's like, it's my Gen Z teacher look.

I'm obsessed. Thank you. Okay. Also, I've never been to Napa. Is it good?

Great. I mean, that's your next place. Okay. It's so close. It's unbelievable.

Do you recommend going there as a couple or, like, with friends and, like. A bunch couple and couple friends? It's not a single girls place. You really can throw a party, huh? Oh, yeah.

Morgan Stewart
Honestly, that might be my next career. Oh, I love it so much. A party planner. I could be a serious party planner. I'm like, it took so much work to plan this birthday, and I really thrived.

Alex Cooper
I saw the things you made for your husband for his birthday, and I was like, every single little detail. I couldn't even come up with that in a year. No, it was a lot. But I will say shout out to my mother in law, because she really helped me. She is like Oz.

Morgan Stewart
She is a magical wizard that will just come up with these insane ideas, and it'll just. She got 22 pieces of metal engraved in 24 hours. She's like, I can get it done. Don't worry. I can get it done.

I said. She said, there's nothing I can't do. She literally had it all fucking done. I was like, there's no way. She had a neon sign.

My assistant picked it up that morning and drove it to Napa. It was done the morning of the party. How nice is it to, like, your mother in law? We are. I will not to get too crazy and deep.

We are like kindred spirits through life. Have you had the opposite before, even if it wasn't, like, an absolute mother in law? Not bad. I've never had a bad relationship with anybody's mother, but definitely not to this level. Yeah.

Alex Cooper
Because I've had, like, the son mommy dynamic where it's a little too incestual that you're like, do you want to fuck your mom or me? Like, what's going on? That's not the guy for you. I can just. No, it does not work.

It doesn't work at all. Does not work. It's. It's so. It's such a turn off.

Also. Sexually. Yes. And it's like, oh, you have to call your mommy every couple hours. Like, get it together.

Morgan Stewart
We're adults, and that's. And that's something I have to think about with my son. He's got a sweet spirit, so I might need to smack it out of him soon, but he's adorable. They're good kids, and they've got great names, so they're immediately cool by association. Also, you.

Alex Cooper
The whole thing is gonna work for them. Thank you. Okay, what is a hot take that you've had in the past that you no longer stand by?

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Morgan Stewart
Okay. I used to have a okay. Mine that I used to not like Anne Hathaway or her style. And now I love her. Oh, my God.

Is that a hot take? So good. I used to not be able to look at her. I was like, oh, my fucking. Why does she annoy me to this level now?

She's my idol. She is my queen. I don't know what the fuck she's done. It's that subtle actress work that's just puffing the right things up. The cheekbones are sunken in the right way.

The outfits, I'm inspired by them. It's the tousled bang. She's back right where she needed to be in devil wears Prada. I can't handle. I love her, and we loved her in that movie.

Loved. Who didn't love her? Yes. And I love her now. I think she went through a really weird phase where people were just shitting on her.

Hated, hated her. It was when she was hosting the Oscars, and it was just, like, too theatrical. And I think what it read, as. As we've touched on, it's the inauthenticity that people just don't have time for. Was she and Les Mis?

Alex Cooper
Yes, because it was too theatrical. And we're like, we want you back. Princess diaries. Our queen, like, give it back to us. And she's back in her era.

Morgan Stewart
Yep. So I think that's a great, hot take that you used to have and then you don't agree with, and now you. You know, you change your mind. Okay. You have discussed pop culture and celebrities for years, so I'm interested to know who would be your celebrity hall pass.

John Mayer. Was that too fast? John Mayer? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Really? Yeah. My husband knows. It's always I, when I was single for a little bit, I was like, I'm gonna go out with John Mayer. Guess that did not.

Did not happen. Have you ever met him? Oh, yeah. Uh huh. Oh.

Still did not know. Oh, no, I'm fine. Fine. Moved on. Now what about.

I feel like I'm fine. He's a libra. My husband's a libra. I get along with Libras. I was like, oh, he would totally.

If he had 2 hours with me, he would fall in love with. Nope. Not. Not even a little. Not for a second.

Alex Cooper
What about him do you love? I don't know. I think he's hot. I think he's just got the whole thing down. I'm into it.

Morgan Stewart
I love that he's just, like, mysteriously moving through every single person you've ever met ever. Except me. I'm fine. I'm just saying. That's my celebrity hobbit.

Alex Cooper
I'm here. Yeah. And would your husband be okay with it? Oh, no. Absolutely never.

Morgan Stewart
Okay. No, no, we're not. We're, like, totally closed. We were like, yes, but do you. Know who his is?

I feel like he's also more quiet about his hall passes, which is, like, the ones you always have to watch out for, like, the people that vocalize their desires. It's on the table. He's like, oh, she's pretty. Shut the fuck up with she's pretty. Who says she's pretty about any person in their life?

Alex Cooper
No one. No one. Unless you're in love with them. Right. There you go.

Morgan Stewart
Who's he? I'm gonna call. Who the fuck? Yeah. Wow.

Okay. So he's made little comments. Yes. Who? I'm trying.

I guarantee you when I leave, we're just gonna have to do this again, because when I leave, I'm gonna be like, oh, he likes blah, blah, blah. He thinks Kim's hot, but, like, if you're a frog, you think Kim is hot? She is. Like, she is a really beautiful. I've never seen her in person.

Alex Cooper
I've heard she's. It's like looking at the sun. You can't stare too long. She's. It's like, she's stunning.

Morgan Stewart
This is very beautiful and was always very beautiful. I agree. That's why this works, is what it does. I agree. Wow.

Okay. So, Kim, for your husband and you, John Mayer. Yes. What a fun couple night. You guys should just do it all together.

There you go. You have to watch out, cuz. Kim single. Well, I guess John single too. Oh, yeah.

Alex Cooper
What's the most memorable interaction you had when you met a celebrity? I mean, it's so. It's not as fun as it should be because it was on Zoom, but I guess I. It's split. They're my highlights.

Morgan Stewart
Rihanna. I went in to do a interview with her for fenty beauty, and it was sort of like you were in a waiting room in Zoom, and then I opened the camera up, and those are very stressful. And doing things over the Internet are very stressful. You want to be able to meet someone, be able to do a little small talk, right? And she was like, oh, my God, Morgan, I loved you on rich kids.

You were so funny. And I literally, I, like, was seven and a half months pregnant, and I, like, peed a little bit. It was literally. I'm not. I was, like, so excited, and I couldn't hold my labia tight because it was, like, flapping open at that point, and that's what happened.

And then George Clooney was also so fucking lovely and, like, a movie star. So those two, the bigger the star, I realized the nicer they are. Really? Oh, yeah. Because you've already achieved that level of success.

You just want good, normal, nice people around you to treat you like a human being. You're not insecure. You're not climbing Jen Aniston. Really nice. I mean, never met her.

I've just heard. Just saying I am. I love her so much. So much. You're just.

I can't handle it. I can't. But you know what? I don't think that pertains to the James Corden issue, by the way. That was big.

I've heard, I've heard, I've heard. We've heard. So there was a lot of news. I love. I feel like now I'm doing, like, the nightly pop show.

Yay. But I never usually cover pop culture. But James Corden, which is one thing I just do not fuck with, is news came out that he is the biggest fucking asshole to waiters and Balthazar, a very famous place in New York City. That's just, like, the best french place to go to. I guess he was just, like, a fucking dick to the waiters, and they banned him from going there.

Yep. And I don't fuck with that. I don't fuck with that ever. You are not better than anyone. I agree.

Alex Cooper
And I agree. How dare you be rude. How do you get to that point? How does it stay quiet for so long? I feel like if I'm rude to anybody, it's everywhere in two minutes.

Morgan Stewart
Oh. Not to make myself that big, but I do feel like it spreads around. I don't know if it's a male versus female thing. I hate to go, right, because you're a bitch. She's never gonna be called a bitch.

Alex Cooper
No, he could be called an asshole. An asshole. But now he apologized and is unbanned in two minutes. Like, you're rude to. He's not just rude to waiters, he's rude.

Morgan Stewart
I allegedly. Allegedly. And I've heard from people that we know, obviously, that he's not polite. And I don't know how you actually are a person that's not polite to other people. It's just especially when you hear, like, the status of someone, like, you have such privilege and such access and just be, like, so grateful and gracious to people around you, because be happy for what you have, and agreed.

Alex Cooper
Be fucking nice. And especially when people are rude to waiters, I'm like, you're disgusting. Disgusting. But that's really interesting. Take that.

The bigger the celebrity, the nicer they. Are, in my experience, I think with James Corden. Yeah. But he's not even as big as, you know, I mean, Rihanna. George Clooney has full, full movie star.

Like, I bet from a young age, he came out of the womb and they're like, he's gonna be a movie star. Yeah. I think he just has that sort of je ne sais quoi vibe that, like, I don't know if that exists anymore in our. I don't think it does. Cause when you see Brad, you're like, that is a movie star, Leo.

A movie star. But then, you know, Austin Butler, to me, doesn't have movie star vibes. I think also because he's too close in our age group, but I do think it's possible that he can grow into it. Yes. I think he's also, like, borderline too pretty.

Morgan Stewart
So it also, he doesn't have that sort of, like, rugged vibe that is like these other guys have. Yeah. Cause Brad can be rugged, even though he's prettier than both of us, by the way. And my mom met him once, and he signed something for me. He's lovely.

That's another person. That's lovely. Did you always want to be in the spotlight because you're meeting all. Oh, that was fast. To be honest, I didn't always want to be in the spotlight.

I always wanted to be successful at my talents. That's what it was. What were your talents? Like, my talent was talking to people, being funny, engaging, and, like, even I feel like my talent, secret talent, is, like, even if people hated me, I'm talking early club days, and, like, we had a weirdness because one girl was sleeping with somebody. I would sleep.

They still told me all of their insecurities and deepest thoughts and then told me even about the person that they were sleeping with. Like, I am. I can disarm people and make them feel comfortable, so. And I was. So.

I struggled so much in school that I wasn't gonna, like, go to college and do that for four years. So I really needed to kind of rely on the assets I had, which were not always so easy to put into a job description. I love it. I think it's great when you like the fact that you knew and look, you made it happen. Yeah.

Alex Cooper
Thank God you're married to Jordan McGraw. I am. His dad is doctor Phil. He is. Does he act like your therapist at family dinners?

Morgan Stewart
You know what? He. Honestly, he's very quiet in real life, and he doesn't need to say a lot, which is the opposite of me, to fill in the void. And same with my husband. He doesn't need to say a lot, too.

So every time I'm around him, I adore him. We get along very well. I. He inspires me. I mean, the self made success that that man has had is.

I mean, he tried to talk to me about my e contract. I'm like, this is too below where we're not talking. We're not talk. I'm talking about cable television. Like, I'm not getting money back on the sales here or the, like, time slots that I'm like, this is.

Alex Cooper
I'm like, I just need to know. If I should ask for this or this, right? He is wicked smart. I definitely am. Like, can he read my mind?

Morgan Stewart
Like, does he know all my hurt feelings and traumas and, like, bad habits? But we have a really nice banter. Were you nervous when you first met him? Well, you know, I dated my husband first, right? Ten years, twelve years ago now for a year.

And then we broke up. But I had seen his parents around throughout the times that we weren't together. It was always energetically very strange, to the point where I was with my ex husband in San Tropez. I met up with my current husband's brother and sister in law and went on my in law's yacht and sat with my mother, now mother in law and father in law, for, like, an hour with me, my ex husband and my best friend. And I had seen them at restaurants, you guys.

It was. It's. The world works in such mysterious ways and I've always had a lovely relationship with them. So I guess you were friends with your ex? But no.

Can I tell you the craziest thing? He wasn't there, so this is fucking crazy. Yeah, he was not there. He was on tour. And it was his older brother, who I've always gotten along with, his wife, who I adore.

We met up in San Tropez and hung out. Was your ex husband, like, what the fuck? Not at all. They all got along. It was not.

It had been so many years that it wasn't. And Jordan was, like, doing his thing and had different girlfriends. And I look back now. I mean, even the purses he bought me from twelve years ago, I never got rid of them. And that wasn't to be sentimental, that was just.

Cause it was Chanel. And I was like, well, I'm not gonna get enough money. I'm gonna keep it. And now I look at my closet, I'm like, I now have two children with you. I'm gonna now pass this on to you that your dad gave me this bag when we dated when we were 22 or whatever.

It's crazy. Does his family also live in LA? Yes, they live close to us. We see them. My mother in law comes over all the time.

Cause we're very close. I go there. She made a room for Ro that is nicer than my entire house. It's like a joke. And your family lives in LA, too?

And my family lives in LA a lot. No, we got lucky with this. My parents are happily married and have been for almost 40 years. And they've been together 40 fucking four years. They are the most.

And I'm not just saying this to you. They're, like, eating at their kitchen counter like normal fucking people. Like, I got so blessed. Okay, that's good. Yeah, it's good.

Alex Cooper
You obviously have been with Jordan for how many years now? Oh, my God. 2020. We started to be together. We were gonna be married only two years in December.

Morgan Stewart
It feels like we've been together for 25 years. I love it. Yeah. How do your personalities compliment each other? I am so external and extroverted, and he's extroverted in a different way, so he's more introverted and calm and read situations really well and is a really good judge of character.

I have a harder time with that. I'm really open and vulnerable upon meeting people, and then I'm like, fuck, why did I do that shit? I don't trust you. I don't like you. And then I have to backpedal.

He's very good at, like, balancing me out. He's. Every time I'm in a bad mood or don't feel good about something, he can talk me off a ledge. I'm working on being able to do that for him because he's like, if he gets upset about something, I'm like, don't worry about it. And it's like, no, you have to validate someone's feelings.

Which I talked about my therapist. She was like, no, you can't. You have to also make them feel. Because I'm like, get in the game. We're fucking fine.

Charge through it. And he's like, can you just, like, be in my feelings with me? I'm like, oh, the feelings. The feelings. You're like, oh, right, right.

Hate feelings. But, yeah. Oh, wow, that's really interesting. So when he needs a cry, you're like, buck up. I'm working on it.

Because that's how I've been. Yes, I'm sweet. I validate. But we also think the exact same way about 90% of things. So nice.

Anything we watch on tv, anything we see, any, we have the exact same immediate reaction at the same, same speed, which is very rare. That is so rare. And I think that when that happens, you got to hold on to it. That's why we came back around. When you guys had children, was there anything that completely shifted in your relationship?

Alex Cooper
No. I think we were really, really, really on the same page about making sure that our relationship was a priority and we couldn't be completely only centered around our children. So smart. You have to do that, or you just will not survive at all. Because there's always something to do.

Morgan Stewart
There's always something to fix. There's always something to talk about. And at one point, we did have to peel back on getting the house, like, in order and having the right people around. And he finally, at dinner, was kind of like, you need to learn to stop talking after people leave. You need to just relax and enjoy your life and stop worrying about things that can't be changed right now.

Cause I am such a doer. I want to get things fixed immediately. He's like, you just can't. Oh, that's nice. I feel calmer from hearing his words.

Yeah, it is. Just. I think I'm a little like that. Like, just a little much. And my boyfriend's always like, how about you just, like, calm down?

Yeah. When they do that now, I don't get upset when. Because if another boyfriend in the past would say that, he'd be like, shut the fuck up. Yeah. But now I know my partner's coming from a good place.

Exactly. So it's healthier. Yes. I brought you here to talk about weddings. Okay.

Alex Cooper
Okay. Because I've never really talked about them on my show. Okay. You've had two. I've had two.

Morgan Stewart
All the experience you need. So, first of all, the first time around you had your wedding. It was a big, elaborate wedding. Yeah. When we won 150 people.

Yeah. How did you decide to have a big wedding? To be honest, that's not even that big. It's not. It's not even that big.

I feel like now, like, I feel like a big wedding is 300 people. 253 could never. Could never. And by the way, don't ever do that. Because.

That's because your parents have a lot of friends and they want them there. That's not because of you. It's not about my parents. It's about me. Exactly.

Exactly. Okay. So you had a small. How did you decide to do a COVID wedding? Because I know a lot of people push theirs back.

It was just. I didn't want to do a whole thing again. I really. It was about the two of us. I knew that it was the right thing, right situation.

And we just wanted to do it. It really. People like, oh, you were pregnant. Nothing to do with that. I.

Even at the point we were dating, I was like, if you don't want to get engaged right away, like, I don't mind. I mean, I'm happy to just do this with you because I knew Ro happened the first time anything happened the first time. Wait, and so you're saying the first time you guys had sex, I ever had unprotected sex. I got pregnant. Holy.

It was bananas. We're even trying. Not even for. I was wasted on my birthday. We had unprotected sex.

I was like, I can just pop. A pill for that, right? I was like, nothing's gonna even happen. I mean, you hear stories that it takes months and months and months. I knew that when I made the decision to have the unprotected sex in my drunken state, I was like, if this were to happen, which it's not going to, I feel confident enough with this person being the person who's gonna be the father of my child.

Alex Cooper
That's great. But it was fucking nuts. Four weeks to the day, I was positive on a pregnancy test. It was wild. I was like, what?

Morgan Stewart
Yeah. When you took the pregnancy test, were you. I was one day late and I was like, it's positive. And then I took 30 more. And then what?

Alex Cooper
You just had a conversation with Jordan and you were like, fine. I'm like, we're just gonna have a baby. And he was fine, and he was. Fine and he was thrilled. We were, we wanted it.

Morgan Stewart
I just didn't think it was gonna. Happen totally, like at that timeline. That's why. Cuz I think weddings, like, I'm interested by your smaller wedding versus bigger wedding because I think a lot of people feel so much pressure to like, have the big wedding or have all these people there. And half the time I feel like when you do that, it's for other people.

Alex Cooper
It's not even for the people getting fucking married. It's for all the family members to like, fulfill a need of theirs. Whether it's like to show off or validation or just see all their fucking friends. Right. Do you have any advice for anyone that's like trying to figure out, like, what kind of wedding they want?

Morgan Stewart
I think the idea for a big wedding is really, if that's something you want, I don't think you should be ashamed by that. I think you should go for it. I definitely think you should think about who you're genuinely going. On the friends side, family is more obligatory. You have to invite certain family members.

I think. On the friend side, do you really feel like this couple is going to be there for ten years down the road? Because it's also like, well, we like her, but we don't like him. And it's kind of like you need to really just make sure that you're not inviting people to invite them I completely agree. And I feel like that happens a lot of times.

Alex Cooper
I've seen people at their weddings, and they're like, I feel like I haven't even talked to anyone that I care about. Like, oh, my God, where have you guys been the whole night? Oh. And I think that's sad. If you don't get to enjoy your actual wedding, which I'm interested to know, like, so you enjoyed your smaller wedding?

Morgan Stewart
I preferred it. And I'm not just saying that because this is, like, my current husband. I genuinely felt relaxed. I felt happy. I didn't feel exhausted.

I was able to enjoy. Soak it in. I remember the meal we had. I remember the cake. I remember the photos.

Like, it's really about celebrating the two of you. It's. And I don't care how much money you have, we could have had the biggest wedding in the world, but it's like, we didn't want to spend that time small talking with other people. I love it. Also, bridesmaids.

Alex Cooper
Let's quickly talk about it. Oh, God. Do you think they're going out of style? What is your. Yeah, it's really dated.

Morgan Stewart
It felt dated when I got married the first time. I just. And, like, most of the girls that I. Oh, my God, I can't even remember six. Oh, wow.

I mean, I speak to most of them, but, like, it's just not. It's just having girls stand up there with you. It's. It's. I would avoid it.

Alex Cooper
Were they all wearing the same dress? Yes. I know, I know, I know. It's. I know.

Listen, if people are listening and you want to have a bridesmaid, bridesmaids, that's totally fine. I just think you shouldn't feel pressured to, because you're supposed to have that many people standing up there with you. Get up there alone, bitch. Do your thing. Exactly.

Morgan Stewart
Do your thing. And also, you have to wait for all those bitches to walk down. It's not. It takes too long. Ceremony under 15 minutes.

Quick. It should be nine minutes.

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Wherever you get your podcasts, let's talk. A little bit about reality tv for a second. Let's do it. You were on, like I said, the show rich kids of Beverly Hills. Yes.

Alex Cooper
Which, I mean, what a name. What a name. What a name for a show. It was insane. Looking back.

Morgan Stewart
Yes. Were you playing a character? No, I wasn't playing a character. I was just a younger version of who I am now, and I don't relate to that person as much anymore. Okay.

But, no, I wasn't playing a character. I definitely felt like maybe I was more turned up in moments and, like, there were storylines we had to fulfill because it is ultimately, no matter what, they follow reality. But you have to embellish. You have to make, like, gray areas pop. You have to refilm things.

So, yeah, it was a job, let's put it that way. Okay. So it wasn't a full character, but you were kind of, when you look back, what do you like and dislike about that? I didn't watch a lot of it, to be honest. I really.

I put myself out there for other people to enjoy me or not enjoy me. It wasn't for me to sit back and be like, oh, my God, you're on tv. So I really. And my interview looks were so bad. That was such a.

An early start of glam that I had no fucking clue about. So it was just. It's tough to watch back. I get that. I can't.

Alex Cooper
I mean, even with my podcast, sometimes I'm like, oh, people are always like, oh, how do you feel that you've had, like, four years of just podcasting on the Internet, and I'm like, not great. I mean, it's not great. Like, I don't hate it, but I don't love it. There are certain things that I'm like, why did I say that? No, totally.

Morgan Stewart
Oh, no. By the way I felt, like I was way, I guess, like, bitchier, immature, insecure, just like. But what you are is, like, a younger version of yourself. That's what I feel like. People have to understand.

Alex Cooper
Like, sometimes people look back at when you put your life on the Internet or you're on tv and people scrutinize you, for one thing. You're like, I was how old? And now I'm like, I'm different. I'm a different person. I'm a different person.

And if you documented yourself at that age, hopefully you'd be a different person five years later also. Right? And good fucking luck. Exactly. Exactly.

Okay, so you don't hate the character, but you just look back and you're like, I was just, like, a little bit more aggressive. I was a little bit more aggressive, and I wasn't as happy. You know what I mean? And I also hadn't had five years of therapy. How did you like filming that show?

Morgan Stewart
I liked it. I was definitely. I took it very much as, like, this is a stepping stone. I had worked towards getting on the show, not that specific show, but a show in general. And I treated it very much like a job.

Like, I was on time to things. Like, it was fun because I was friends with them, but with the people on it. But it needed. It was a job. What are you like in a social setting when you're drunk?

Alex Cooper
Give us, like, drunk. Loud. Loud and very nice. Oh, I am like, we're going here. What about this?

Morgan Stewart
Oh, my God. You told me you were interested in that. I get, like, high off of being able to be louder because I'm wasted. And then I am inviting you everywhere. We are going to Rome.

And then I'm like, oh, no, we're not. We're not going to Rome. Like, I am, like, engaging. You're the person that meets people in the bathroom, and you're like, guys, come to the table. Yes, I am that person.

I am that person. I've been. I'm like an internal club rat, no matter how old I am. Like, I just, like, love to talk to people, but then I also. If I get cornered and I don't want to talk, then I have a serious psycho breakdown, okay.

Cause I don't know how to. I don't know how to get out of the conversation. I was talking about that with somebody the other day where I was at an event and someone was stuck. And you just can see it. Like, everyone can see it when you're in a social setting.

Alex Cooper
And it's. It's the nature of what happens. You start talking to someone. Totally genuine conversation, whatever. But like, it's forced because you guys don't really know each other.

And it was just more supposed to be like a, hi, howell, how are you? Like, oh, so good to see you here. And then you're supposed to keep flowing, but then all of a sudden everyone else is in conversation and you're stuck with that person. It's like your partner for the night. And you, I'm always with a partner for the night.

Morgan Stewart
And then I almost get. I get so fucking crazy that I will be like, we're seeing it through now. We're fucking signed up for this. Keep telling me about your mom. What mental illness did she have?

Oh, tell me about your parents divorce when you were twelve. Why the fuck am I in this deep? This is what happens. I get fucking blind and I keep going. I do too.

Alex Cooper
And I'm down the tunnel and now I'm like, well, we can talk about this. Like, here's my, like, my number, like, my number. I'll give you my therapist and like, we can get through this. Let's get lunch. I'm like, I didn't even want to go lunch.

Morgan Stewart
I didn't want to go to lunch. And it's not even like being fake. You're trying to make someone comfortable, right? You double down because you're like, why are you walking away? Right, right.

Just say, hi, how are you? And just, I know a good host. I'm gonna start to like, implement that into my parties of like, you guys have been talking a long time and it's nothing mean. It's genuinely like, sometimes you don't need to have a conversation that long with someone. No.

Alex Cooper
And you could just say, I gotta go. But sometimes if the other person's not reading the queue, it can get a little awkward. Oh, my God, I've been there so many times. Exhausting. Because sometimes they really are excited to have the conversation.

Morgan Stewart
I know. And you're like, what the fuck? Yeah, and there's other times where I want to talk for an hour to someone. Yeah, don't get it twisted, like, but. It'S usually not somebody you've just met.

Unless it's you and I. You're all like, guys, you. Yeah, exactly. If someone can't shut the fuck up. But it's like a good can't shut up, great.

Alex Cooper
If someone's so self centered and just keeps talking about themselves and you're like, do you even know my name? Yeah. Then that's where you want to just. Yeah, I agree. What is a current social media trend that makes you cringe?

Morgan Stewart
Oh, my God, all of it. I feel like the TikTok. I mean, I feel like I'm just. I no shade to it. I love it, but I just cannot.

I don't have the. I don't know. I can't find. I'm, like, trying to do Beyonce cuff. It's.

I'm trying to fucking figure it out. I'm trying to do that, and I can't. It shifts a lot. Every day. Every day.

Alex Cooper
I can't even post on TikTok. I try, but, like, I just can't. I can't get it down. I can't get it down. Also, like, our photos just not good enough anymore.

Morgan Stewart
Like, how do you want me to take a video of me walking down the street and pretending like, I don't know because I tried in napa. You know what happened? It was horrific. Okay. It was.

It was so bad that I was like, how the fuck does this. Who took the video for you? My husband. I said, you have to take a video of my outfit because I can't just get a photo. I need to do walking.

He goes, okay, here. It was so much nose. It was so much. It was so bad. It just.

I can't. You just knew. That's the thing. That's awful is. Or even, like, the photos where we're trying to, like, pretend we're not looking.

Alex Cooper
We know someone who is holding our own personal iPhone and taking the photo. And what has become cool about that? I'm doing it too. I'm, like, looking down. Yeah.

Looking away, like, just look at the camera. What happened to this? I know. The smiling at the photo. I swear.

Morgan Stewart
Gonna bring it back. That's what we should do. I should. I cannot keep pretending like, oh, there's a bird. Oh, my God.

Oh, and I'm looking down. It's been years of social media, and I still have no fucking idea. Yeah, it's time. Smile. Happy.

Yeah. Smiley. Happy. I feel much better. I'm not doing the pressure.

I'm not doing anymore. Or just stare at the camera. We acknowledge we know there is a husband or a boyfriend or a best friend or a mom or a grandma crouching to get the angle. Acknowledge that. Exactly.

I'm with you. I agree. Okay, well, this is making me feel better. Okay. When you wrapped your show after five seasons, your parting gift from your team.

Yes. Was a book of some of your best quotes. What was your favorite quote from the book? It was something about, like, you not knowing your dad, what was it? It was like, if you're in a.

If you're in heels by the pool, like, you don't know your dad or something like that. Because. Really, why? Why are you in heels by the pool? Like, I don't.

Like, are you gonna, like, are you gonna slip and break your neck? Like, you were really trying for something? Like, you need to call someone else. If you're in heels by the pool, you don't know you're dying. Yeah.

And you have, like, a thigh tattoo that you regret, and, like, you're in, like, a black zippery. Like, something that's uncomfortable for the labia to be in. Wait, what do you feel about the wedge? Or, like, the one with the cork underneath, essentially. Listen, it looks like a plank from Home Depot.

Home Depot. I don't hate a wedge. It's a. You got to be specific about the wedge. But I like white or black.

When things are in the gray, I have a very hard time. I spiral, okay. I need things to be very clear. You're either my best friend or you're not my friend. I can't have you, like, kind of be a friend to me.

Whatever. I'm getting to the wedge part of it all. A wedge is the gray. Right. Because you're not wearing it by the pool if you have any class, and you're not wearing it to dinner unless you're on vacation.

So it's sort of a useless shoe, unless that's your heel of choice, which, like, doesn't feel formal enough for me. How much time do I have to know all these opinions? It's kind of weird. No, this is good. This is good.

So, to me, I'm overwhelmed by the idea of a wedge because it's useless to me. But I bought a pair of wedge wedges over the summer. They had pom poms on them. I was. I brought them on vacation, and I never ended up wearing them, and so I wore them on my show one time.

But, like, a wedge just does not serve conducive to getting dressed. I agree with you. Yeah. I'm not wearing wedges with jeans. It's not 2008.

Alex Cooper
Oh, no, no, no. I agree. They're not the cutest. Also, no, they're not. They're comfortable.

Morgan Stewart
Yeah, they're definitely comfortable, but, like, you're not. They're not comfortable in the sense that, like, I'm wearing them to Coachella or. That's scary. Who's wearing those to Coachella? Nobody, I hope.

Alex Cooper
No. Nobody you're talking to. No, nobody. What did you think about the, what boot is in right now? The knee or above the knee or below?

Like, what are we doing? I think to the knee or high up? I think they both work. An ankle boot that's healed is. It's unacceptable.

Morgan Stewart
It's never, it never elongates. It never looks good. You're not doing yourself a favor. It doesn't look good on Irina. Fucking shake.

If you have an ankle boot, return it is. I don't care if it's a sock booty and it's the most flattering version, it does not look, look good. It's cutting off your leg. Whether your legs 9ft long or 2ft long, they're awful. A black suede ankle boot makes me want to clench my asshole and touch it.

Alex Cooper
I think I owned one of those in college. Yeah, I was like rocking the. And then there's like, throw up on the side because you've walked through it. And then there's like a little chain. To like, zip it.

Oh. Oh, mama. Okay, so when you, I love how I'm asking you fashion advice, but I think this can, like, help a lot of people. No, like, we're lost out here. Okay.

So it's either to the knee. Yes. Or high as high, high to the point where you're not getting, like, if you're wearing a skirt, it's, it's, the skirt is covering. Like, you want it to be extensive leather. Do you feel like ho ish, though?

Like. No, it's not hoish because we are covering. So skirt. So boot skirt. We don't want let, we don't want this showing.

Morgan Stewart
We don't want an ounce of skin showing. You also, not to confuse you can wear pantyhose under the thigh high boot and wear a booty short. Like a leather booty short with a baggy sweater that reads classy and cute. But if you're doing skirt, no pantyhose and boot, that's showing. Trash whore.

Disgusting. Which, by the way, I am the biggest trash whore, but I just not in terms of dressing. Okay, this is good. Yeah. It's giving.

Alex Cooper
Everything you're calling out is like Alex in college. Exactly. No, by the way we've gone. We've all been there. Trust me.

So if you're in college, do what we're doing actually. Because you want to be a trash whore. Exactly. It's the best to be the trash whore. Exactly.

Morgan Stewart
But now I feel like people also, like, do these little tricks that they're like, why doesn't it look the same on me. And those little details are why it works on, like, the people these girls are following. I got it. And so when you're doing a boot, though, and you're wearing long pants. Yes.

Alex Cooper
You just. The pants go over the boot. Okay. Yes. So if you're doing an ankle boot for that purpose and it's covered and you don't know, it's ambiguous in terms of the height, fine.

Morgan Stewart
But if you're doing. Have you ever seen someone wear an ankle boot with a dress? Yeah. No. No stocking.

Yeah. It's just unacceptable. It's not making you look better in any way. Okay, so while we're wrapping up, because this is actually great. I never talk about fashion on caller daddy, but I actually think this is fucking helpful because it really is good.

I'm so happy. We need to learn for fall. Yes. What are some, like, go to's? We need to just be rocking, wearing.

Living in think it should always, everyone should have two oversized crew neck sweaters. And I think you should. I'm somebody that, like, believes in investing in like a higher priced item. Even if you can't buy them a lot because you have them for five years. What's your go to outfit for like a fun, sexy date night?

I always, I buy all this shit and then I'm always like in a really fitted, like, skinny crop ankle Jean with like a blazer of some kind and like a t shirt underneath. And a heel like that is like what I am comfortable in. That's what I go to. Skinny crop Jean. Yeah.

Heel. It should always be a little bit high on the ankle. High on the ankle. Not all the way down where you're like, no, it means we should have. Done a fucking vlog episode where I come over and try it on clothes, by the way.

I'm ready. Maybe we do that. Let's do it. I'm ready. Because like, we need help.

I am. Those are daddy gang needs help. Yeah. You're like, I can help you anytime you want. Okay.

Alex Cooper
I want to know. Yeah. What are you doing next? Your show just ended. Show just ended.

Morgan Stewart
I'm in the process of working. I'll be very detailed with you right now. I'm working out a budget for a pilot. I'm going to shoot for a show idea that I've had for a really long time. And I'm not going to say exactly what the show is, but it is definitely something that I for years have just been like, I don't feel like my multi layered self has been shown.

There's always a version of who I am. There's a very empathetic, very nice side of me. I'm. I'm just gonna talk all about how great I am and generous, and I'm actually a pretty decent person and somebody I've become that I've started to really like after all the work I've done, and I feel like that doesn't get exposed enough. And so this show will interweave a little bit more of, like, the different layers of who I am.

Alex Cooper
So are you gonna have a reality show? It's not gonna be reality. Okay? There will be snippets of reality, but it will not be reality. When you're saying that you really come to like yourself.

Morgan Stewart
Yes. What is that? Evolution? I think that I've worked a lot on myself, especially in the last four years, and have really, like, learned why I worked the way I did for so many years and, like, ended up leaving relationships really in a sort of a messy place and friendships in a messy place. And I just feel like I now understand certain things have happened to me over my life that I understand now why I operated that way.

And now I'm moving away from that because I'm undoing all of that. And so I feel like I get to be the. A better version of myself. And so that version, I would like to be out in the world more. And it's also hard to, like, self produce yourself every day to post video.

It's like. It's a lot. I'm exhausted. I don't want to do that all the time. But I love that for you, also.

Alex Cooper
So exciting, because, like, you're now raising children or just, like, the fact that you're feeling like you're the best version of yourself. Therapy. A godsend. A godsend. And, I mean, I'm so excited for the show whenever it comes out.

Morgan Stewart
And I'm manifesting. Maybe. I think I'll be filming in May. Oh, yeah. I've manifested everything in my entire life.

Anything you want in your entire life. You can get it. You just say it. Anything. I'm gonna.

Oh, I want. I'm gonna date him. Okay. Except for John Mayer. Everything has happened except for John Mayer.

Alex Cooper
But honestly, I will be checking the news moving forward, because I could see it happening now. Yeah, there's gonna be, like, all of. A sudden, they allow a third into their relationship, and they had a one night spree with John Mayer. Oh, my God. No.

I love you. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so much for having me. So fun. The daddy gang's gonna love you.

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