Jack Harlow: I'm *Not* Vanilla Baby (FBF) [VIDEO]

A
Hi. How could someone simply saying hi make you immediately like that one? It's a tough one. I don't know if I could describe myself on camera. I'm self proclaiming myself as the best rapper in Louisville right now.

Right here. TikTok took it up as an ass. Oh, this Jack Harlow shit kind of hard. Jack Harlow does mention my name in the song. This new Jack Harlow still currently going viral right now.

They're not gonna push you up.

B
In the upcoming remake of white man Can. John might have been nominated for free grammar. Ladies and gentlemen.

What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father Alex Cooper with call her Daddy, Jack Harlow. Welcome to call her daddy. Thank you. I am so happy you made it from Vegas.

A
Me too. That was like a close call. Couldn't wait to get out of there. Just like, not the vibe to be in Vegas all the time. Shit.

It's not the vibe anytime. But were you there for 24 hours? Was there for business? Yeah. No pleasure?

Oh, you know, I take pleasure in business sometimes, but, yeah, I know what you're asking me. Nah. No. You didn't meet any ladies? I didn't spend any money, no.

B
Okay. Okay. Good to know. I want to go back to the beginning because I'm like, already you sitting in this chair, Jack. The ladies are blushing.

They're happy, they're cozy. They're like, oh, Jack's here. They all have a crush. But today we're gonna make them really fall in love. I can tell.

Okay, so we need to get to know you. Okay, so we're gonna go back to the very beginning. You grew up in Kentucky. Born and raised. That's right.

You just moved back. Yeah. Tell me, why is your hometown so. Why are you looking at me? Nah, just excited.

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To get $10 off your next purchase, talk to me about your hometown and what it means to you. Gosh, where do I start?

A
I mean, growing up, listening to rap music, you would hear artists talk about the cities they were from and just lift them up. And I was just like, damn, Louisville needs that. And so it became a priority to me. Yeah. And I love where I'm from.

I just love it. I love it. That's why I'm there. It just makes me happy. And I think it's like.

It's slow and it's laid back. Little different than LA. Yes, very, very. Is it okay? You just said, like, you kind of, like, roll it off the town.

B
You're like, Louisville? Is it Louisville? You almost got it. You almost got. I say locally, it's the ville is more vol.

A
Louisville. Louisville. Louisville. Louisville. It kind of just like in the throat.

B
You're just like, oh, yeah.

A
It's buttery, is syrupy. Yeah. But, like, if you hear people say Louisville, do you give a shit? Well, not deeply. Mm hmm.

And I'm beyond my, like, correcting it stage. Yeah. It's just not tasteful, but you peep it. You notice? Yeah.

B
Yeah. Well, because I. So I. My friends both went to college there, like, my good friends. And then when I went for a wedding last year, I was trying to suss out the vibe because I was like, I want to say Louisville, but, like, I was trying to not, like, embarrass myself.

So I just said louisville. But then you just said, I said it right. So I'm gonna just keep saying Louisville. Louisville. Louisville.

A
Louisville. Yeah. You're there. You're there. What do you think is the biggest misconception people have about Kentucky?

It's a good question. It's really good. I see why you're in the position you're in. You know what to do. I'm just getting started.

You know what to do. Trust me. I believe it.

Well, I'll tell you specifically. The city I'm from feels very misunderstood, I think, in terms of, like, a national identity, because Kentucky is so dominantly rural, and Louisville is, like, a full blown city, like, with a downtown, tall buildings, like, hundreds of thousands of people live there. So I think we feel a little misunderstood for that reason. So Louisville specifically, there's some misconceptions. I don't want to speak for the whole state, but there's always more than meets the eye.

B
Yeah, there is. Like, you. What were you like as a kid? Hmm. I wasn't allowed to play video games when I was really young, so I read a lot.

What'd you read? Novels. On novels. I was really into Harry Potter.

A
I just read. I remember there was this series. I'm glad you asked. So I have a chance to shout it out. It's called warriors.

It was about these cats that lived in clans and tribes. It just had me fucking hooked. I was just. Yeah, I was deep in it, so I just loved books. I don't know if I would be able to do what I was doing without the literature.

In my early life, when I heard hip hop for the first time, I was like, damn. Shit. This rhythm mixed with expressing myself was just. I didn't realize you were a Harry Potter, Stan. Can we talk about that for a second?

Well, I'm not a Stan, but yes. Then what the fuck are you fucking? I'm a stand. Let's go. Oh, you're, like, easily persuaded.

I'm easy. Yeah. Peer pressure. Let's go. The whole time.

Easily. Very pleased. Yeah. Who's your favorite of the. Harry Potter?

B
Yeah. The characters. Yeah.

A
Who was that asian girl he was fucking with?

B
She was, like, there for a second. She had me. She had me weak. You can't lie. She had me open reading that shit.

A
The details. JK Rowling used to bring it. I was in there nine years old, pants tightening up. What the fuck is happening to me? Do you think the first time you jerked off was when you were, like, at, like, the 16th chapter and you were like, all right, you gotta put the book down.

B
I'm getting hard? Nah. I know what the first time I beat my dick was. Share with the class, Jack. I just realized I've been waiting for a chance just right up.

A
Jimmy Fallon didn't want to talk about it, so. No one wants to talk about that shit. They'll bleep it out. They'll cut the somehow. This is right up your alley.

B
This will be the whole promo. This will be it. I just remember. I just remember. I remember first time I tried to go there, it rose.

A
And it was like the feeling was so unfamiliar to me that I got all the way to near climax and stopped. I think I was twelve years old in middle school. And I just stopped. Cause I was like, I don't know what's gonna happen if this busts. And so I went to sleep.

I just went to sleep. And the next time I'm like, fuck it, I'm going all the way. And I came my ocean. But you remember that feeling? Like, what did you think to yourself?

I thought, God damn, I get it. This shit's all right. I love how you gave yourself blue balls for the first time. You're like, I was terrified. I didn't know.

Cause it just was rising and rising and rising. I'm like, where are we going? Great feeling. You said that you weren't allowed to play video games. What was your house like growing up?

B
Like, what was the dynamic? Who's in your house? What's going on? My two parents who love each other deeply to this day, and my little brother. Oh, nice.

A
I owe a lot to my parents. I got good parents. You do? Yeah. And they're still together.

They are deeply in love. Wow. So are you kind of like a romantic guy? You know, I was for a while. What happened?

I don't know. I'm just deeply in my batch. If my patch stage right now, like, not that I'm. I'm not like, necessarily cut throat. I just, like.

I think when I was 21, I just seeked so much validation. And it gave me such a rush to make a girl feel special. And it was almost like, how many can I make feel special, just to be honest? And I think I didn't want to sleep by myself like I need. And if I was, I wanted to get on FaceTime with someone and fall asleep on FaceTime, and something shifted where I want my space more than ever.

And I'm as transparent as I've ever been. And I just tell it what it is and I don't fucking. I'm not worried if it's not right for the other person, it's like, let's keep moving. Yeah, peace out. So it's a different stage, I think something in the last, like twelve months, probably something shifted, I think.

B
I know it shifted, but we'll get there. Okay, so wait to hear your diagnosis. Yeah, yeah, don't worry, we're going full diagnosis. This is a therapy session, just so you know. Are you in therapy?

A
I am. Okay, good. Well, this is an extended version. You can tell your therapist we don't need our session this week. I sit down with Alex.

Yeah, it's already canceled. You said that you were like. You were looking for validation. Talk to me about what you were like in high school. Did you get the girls?

B
Were you a loser? Were you bullied? Were you the bully? What was going on? I could always get.

A
I could always get the girl I wanted. It's not like I was like I didn't have my way across the board, but I could get the cute girl, okay? I could get the cute girl. I was well liked in high school. What were your friends like?

B
I feel like that kind of like. Were you like an athlete guy? Were you a like, chess player? Were you in the book club? I started making music so early that the rapper category kind of got stamped on me really early.

A
So I would pass out cds in school and everyone knew I was chasing this for a long time. So I was in sort of my own category. Even locally. I experienced a taste of fame from the age of like 14 on because I would go out in public and people would stop me and ask me for pictures just at other schools. It was unique.

It was unique. I feel like I know. Fuck, what was his name? Was like, sammy. Do you know?

I'm talking about Sammy Adams. Sammy Adams from Philly? Yeah. And I remember. I know what you're talking about.

B
Of like, I feel like a lot of. I open for Sammy Adams when I was 18 years old. 18 years old. No one was there to see me. I was playing for his crowds.

A
It's fine. Right of passage, right? First two I ever went on, like four dates on the east coast. We drove ourselves out there, no one with us, just me, my DJ, and two of my friends. And we drove from every venue and we opened up to a bunch of people staring at us.

Like, who the fuck is this? Like, can Samuel please come out here? Like, fuck, Samuel. This Jack kid does not do it for me. And I was like, you know, no beard, glasses still on, like, didn't know how to cut my hair.

Like, I was. It was raw it was a very raw time, but it was character building. That's kind of funny, the juxtaposition of, like, you being a rapper and then having, like, your glasses and, like, maybe not, like, looking the part. Yeah, I think when I was younger, I really was, like, banking on that juxtaposition. I think I was like, ooh, this shock value is gonna be what does it for me?

And then I think I got to a point where I took the glasses off and, like, started, like, tending to how I looked. Became slightly more vain, and I was like, I, like, looking in the mirror and being pleased. Like, I don't really want to be tethered to these glasses. So that's how the shift came about. Were people in your hometown, like, I feel like sometimes people are assholes at that age being like, you're a fucking loser.

B
Stop trying to make it. Were people around you supportive, or were they, like, you're dumb? Move on. It was split. It was polarizing for people.

A
It was very divisive. Like, people either thought it was super tight that I was doing that, or they thought, like, from a distance, they never would say it to me. I wasn't stuffing the locker material. I was, you know, I was walking through that motherfucker with broad shoulders. Like, I wasn't.

I wasn't the high school quarterback, but, like, nobody was fucking talking to me, you know? But there were people that definitely thought it was lame and would shit on me, and I would hear from other schools if people thought it was lame, like, how you fuck with that kid. That shit's terrible. So it was split. You know, it's funny is, like, just.

B
So anyone listening? The ladies. Like, I think there was something on Google because I was gonna give you merch, and I was like, oh. Like, I. I remember I met him at SNL, and, like, he's taller than I expected.

And online, there's something of, like, he's either five eight or he's, like, six two. And there's, like, a misconception. And I think, like, people think you're shorter than you are, so I'm here to say you're pretty tall. Thank you. So, yeah, you weren't getting stuffed into lockers.

A
Thank you for that too. You wouldn't have fit. That's right. Um, how would your teachers have described you back then? If they were british, they would have said cheeky.

I was well liked by my teachers, but I was not focused on school at all. Good grades, bad grades, poor, poor, mediocre. Like, D's or C's. C's and D's, not failing, getting through, but, like, not focus. Cheating endlessly.

B
Oh, you know, it's a skill. Fuck. The thing is, at the beginning of high school, we signed like, a. Did y'all to do that? We signed like an oath.

A
I was like, fuck, man. They could take me to court because I didn't earn my shit. I tell you what. How far would you go to cheat? Like, did you have any, like, tricks?

I had tricks. Surely the tricks now you're not in school. Trust me, I had tricks, okay? I had tricks. I was, uh.

I was just in with the smart girls in the classes. I was in with them. You could send picture messages when I was in high school, like, you know, obviously I didn't grow up in the sixties, so I'm joking. But if I had a vibe with a girl, she was covered through it. Eleven attachments.

I'm like, she would bless me and I'd be like, mmm, I owe you. I'm gonna take care of you. Because that is a love language right there, ain't it, baby? You help me cheat, right? And you will.

How intimate is that, though? How intimate is that? That is special. And I used to just put my arm around, like, you held me down. I'm like, oh, I owe you.

I don't know what I owe you, but I owe you something. We gonna figure it out. It was the attention, what you gave them, or did you ever hook up with anyone that helped you cheat?

I'm sure. I'm sure I did. But I don't think it was. I don't know if it was a direct, like, debt exchange when I did it, but coincidentally, I may have. But it was love.

It was love. I always had. I always had a lot of homegirls like that. It didn't have to go anywhere. It's just there's nothing like the company of a woman.

I know I'm in the right arena to be saying that, but I really. I deeply believe that. Like, it's like, it's so relaxed. It is. Yeah, we're pretty great.

Yeah. But what I can imagine is, like, did you have a girlfriend in high school ever? I did for a portion of it. How did that go over with her of you having all these lady friends? Well, she's at another school.

Let me chill. I feel like you play. You played a lot of games back in the day. It didn't feel like it. I just was me, I just was.

I was. I like to. I just like to have friends. You like to have friends? With vaginas.

It's like, I want to move on because somehow the wounds seem fresh. No matter how long ago it was. It's just like, yo, let's chill. Let's chill.

She gonna hear this. How many girlfriends did you have in high school? I had one. How long? A year.

B
Oh. I was on the same shit I'm on now. Then I'm, you know, playing the field, you know, chilling, seeing what's going on. Oh, assessing the situation. Uh huh.

Uh huh. You are funny. Okay, we're moving on. What was the major turning point in your career, if you had to say one big moment where you're like, oh, people fucking know me now. I mean, what's Poppin was a huge one.

A
There was little steps up till then. Like, there's a lot of people that approached me and told me at different times in the late 2010s, they became aware of me. Like, had these records that would go viral on twitter from, like, 20 17, 20, 18, 20 19. So it was building. It was building.

And then it was. And then it took this big jump with what's poppin and I remember pulling up at a red light and the person next to me looking over and being like. And that was when I was like, okay, it's. Here we go. Just, I'm out in public.

I'm not in my hometown, and people are stopping me. So that must be so crazy. Like, now understanding that you always kind of were, like, recognizable in Kentucky, but then to go somewhere else and be like, oh, fuck, I think I'm, like, famous now. How do you handle that? Do you like it?

It's very validating. I mean, especially overseas, like, walking through New Zealand and Australia and people. People know. It's like, you feel that's one of those moments where you take that time to pat yourself on the bag. So it feels really good.

It feels good. Do you like the New Zealand women? Yeah. What country have you, like, maybe like, the most of the ladies who show you the most love outside of the US? I really like London.

Those women know how to talk. You know what I mean? They know how to talk. You like a woman that talks a lot. Yeah, and I like.

Well, yeah, you spun that a certain way.

B
Shut the fuck up. To a point. Hey, let me tell you something. You are funny. You are funny.

You're kind of funny, too. I mean, I assumed you were. Yeah. But this is proof right here. Okay, thanks.

A
I just think the women over there have a certain wit and a certain, you know, they just. Cheeky. They're cheeky. And they feel like they read a lot of books growing up. You like a strong, confident, smart woman.

All those sound good. What's your type? I just like sweethearts, man. I like sweet ass girls. I like sweet ass girls.

B
So if a girl's playing a game with you, are you like. No. Like, do you like a girl that's like, hi, Jack, like, I like you? Or are you saying just like, sweet, nice hearted, but, like, maybe they can kind of get. I'm not saying a girl has to, like, be a pushover.

A
Let me walk all over her. That's not what I mean by sweet. I just mean that I don't like mean spirited energy at all. And I don't like toxicity. I don't.

That. That's not one of my fetishes. And I know that's. That's going right now. There's a lot of guys that are into that.

I have no patience for it. And I'm glad you asked about games. I don't. I don't want to play any game. I just want to enjoy.

And that's right now. That's who I am right now. If you ask me this, when I turn 30, who knows? Maybe you're playing the games at 30. Hopefully not.

B
Maybe you're stirring up the toxic. There's no telling. I'm just saying it may shift from sweet to like, yo, I need a woman that is. That challenges the fuck out of me and is that this level is above me, this and that. It's like, it's just where I am right now.

Like, maybe you want a woman that's like making the bread. I mean, it doesn't sound like the worst thing in the world. Yeah, you mentioned when you were talking about vulnerability, I'm like, what's your biggest insecurity when you were younger? And like, do you still feel that way? I think when I was really young, my teeth were pre braces.

A
My teeth made it. You know when you're like eight years old and your teeth are fucked? Me too. It's a common one. That was one.

B
Did you get braces where, like, you would, like, decorate with the colors on the little. I think I had some blue shit. Going on, but, like Halloween time. You didn't do, like, black and orange? No, but you did.

I didn't. It was, like, disgusting. Like, I look back and I'm like, it looks like there's like, carrots and black beans in my. It don't matter then. But you totally see that.

A
I could totally see you at eleven years old. Oh, my God. I had two big front teeth and no one wanted to finger me. No one wanted to touch me, doc. I was always the girl.

B
Like, never on the top five. Never getting fingered, never. Dm, DM, Dm. I got the craziest story about fingering. Okay, sure.

A
I lowkey wanted to take this shit to NBC, but we're here. You already brought up fingering. I just want to tell you about a pregnancy scare I had. Okay, here we go. In middle school.

B
Okay, here we go.

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Daddy gang, we got a text. I am so ready for Love island to be back. I am obsessed. Okay, the one and only Ariana Maddox is hosting the new season of Love Island USA out June 11 on Peacock. We are talking a brand new villa loaded with fresh bombshells.

And our favorite scottish hottie, Ian Sterling, is back narrating all the fun. Love Island USA starts Tuesday, June 11, at 09:00 p.m. eastern, with new episodes six days a week exclusively on Peacock. Visit peacocktv.com to learn more. I just want to tell you about a pregnancy scare I had.

Okay, here we go. In middle school. Okay, here we go.

A
So I had this chick I was messing with 7th, 7th or 8th grade, I think 8th grade. And, um, she was touching me. I was touching her, and a little bit of pre comb like got on her hands and my hands and you know about Preco, so. So then I. I fingered my girlfriend in middle school, and the next day, she hit me.

And she's like, yo, I think I missed my period. And I'm like, now, hold on. And I started. My mind starts racing my mind starts racing. Think about it all.

And we meet up at the buses. And I'm like, you know, I have pre comb on my fingers when I was. I don't know if do you think? And she was like. And then days went by.

I remember. I swear to God, I remember. I remember it so vividly. She texted me. I asked her, I'm like, did you get it?

And she's like, I still didn't get it. My period. And thunder struck outside my window. Thunderstruck. And I was like, fuck.

And I was so convinced this girl was pregnant. And I couldn't tell anybody. I had nobody to talk to, like my parents. I couldn't have told him. I even fingered somebody cuz it was like, what the fuck you doing fingering somebody.

B
Little? Do you know if you told your parents, they'd be like, let us teach you a little thing about sex. It would have been such a relief. So it's my birthday weekend, ruining my 13th, 12th or 13th birthday. And I remember being at school and I just like, lean against the wall in the hallway as everyone's going into class, and I just slide down the wall and put my head in my hands and start bawling.

A
Like, I start fucking crying because I'm so convinced I just got a girl pregnant and just ruined everything. And it was just dark, dark, dark. And then after school, I just was like, down in the dumps. I couldn't tell anyone why. And then she came to me and she's like, I got my period.

I was so relieved, so relieved. But that was a. That was one of my first tastes of, like, grown up anxiety. Did you use condoms ever since? Yes.

On my fingers too. Wrap that shit up. You know it. Every time you have sex, you use a condom. Yeah.

And everyone should. Mm hmm. Have you ever had sex without a condom? I've always wanted to. You think you'll ever give a go?

Maybe after marriage. Oh, you'll let it go raw? Yeah. What do you think? It will feel like?

I lost my virginity raw, actually. What the fuck? And God damn. It was in that moment. I was like, oh, shit.

Because it had taken. It had taken me and her weeks to get it in because I didn't know you had to wet it up. So I was putting, I was putting dry on dry. I was putting a dry dick against. And I was like, this motherfucker won't.

And then. And then I just, you know, and suddenly that it just, it just fell in. And I was like, I remember I was in that motherfucker I looked like, are we gonna be here for a minute? If I'm lucky. And I started wiggle, and then 45 seconds later, we gone.

I was like, I gotta. I'm out. I'm out. But I. It's so funny.

It's so stupid. But it is an amazing moment when you first feel that, and it's good. It's. I know. They teach us around that time you're getting all this promotion, all this propaganda.

Put a condom on in my head. I'm like, all right, all right. Like, come on. Like, I'm going to, but on my first go, I'm not going. I'm not gonna have a barrier between me and that motherfucker.

B
I wanna feel that shit. Thank God I did, because I was like, this is why. This is humanity. I felt humanity in one stroke. I felt the cause of humanity in one stroke.

We know you love Dua Lipa. What other celebrities are you crushing on?

A
There's someone, but I don't think it's mutual, so. Oh, I don't really want to talk about it. Yeah, but, like, what if you, like, put it out into the world and it, like. And it's not time yet. It's not time.

She's beautiful. Well, fucking obviously. Well, there's only a few that are. You're doing great. What does it say?

Just in case you were doubting yourself about this interview. Yeah. You're doing great. Thank you. You're doing great.

Thank you. I like your purple pants, your pink outfit, it goes, did you match it to the studio, or just that happen? Chance, like, it didn't. I didn't match it to the studio, but there was something about the fit that felt appropriate. You kind of look like you're the host of this show.

B
You fit more into this room than. Me at the moment, but you run this shit. Let's be fucking honest. The fuck? But I'll tell you, I'll give you something, okay?

A
I like a girl next door anyway, so I don't need any Internet presence. I like. I like me a librarian. I like a waitress. Would you like a nurse?

You don't know me. You don't know me. You must not know. I've written a song about nurses. Girls wear scrubs in my shows, and I'm not being funny.

B
Okay, let's role play. You're trying to impress me. You're taking me on a date. Walk me through what we're doing, where we're going. What's the vibe?

A
I really like going to dinner, and obviously that's not revolutionary. But that's just one of my favorite pastimes. Honestly, I love going out to dinner with or without a girl. Like, I just love it. I think I would just set up a plan and just tell you what it is and we run it.

I don't know. I'm not the most extravagant, but I would. I like to be somewhere quiet. I don't want. I don't want music blaring.

I don't want to be yelling over something. I want to be with you in a dark corner in a booth. And I want us to be able to get as close as we want to get and, you know, exchange smiles, whisper in each other's ear, like, true intimacy. That's like, if I really want to go on a date with a girl, I want to be. I don't want to go to a movie.

I don't want to go do an activity. I want to be. I want to be how you and I are right now, but there's ain't no marble table between us. Like, I want to be on each other. When was your last serious relationship?

Sometime in the last couple years. How long did it last? A couple years. Have you ever been in love? I'd like to think so.

B
How many times? Potentially once. Well, I hear people describe love, and I'm like, God damn. Like, that is something. That is something.

A
But I don't know if I've been intoxicated. Like, I felt deep infatuation, but I've been in love with someone once. I've been in love with someone and loved someone, and I felt that. But I don't know if I felt the highest heights. I've seen other people go.

I've seen people just lose themselves in it. And it's like, I'm not. It's not a criticism of it. I'm more just like, wow. Like, that is a deep rush.

Like, I ain't never had that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I bet you will one day.

Thank you. And then I think maybe you'll say, ooh, like, now I'm really in love. That's how it seems to go, right? I mean, my high school girlfriend, like, there might have been a sense of like, oh, we're in love. And then you have another one.

After that, you're like, no, this is it. And then you have another. But don't you that maybe it's just also life. Like, maybe you're not capable in high school. Like, you actually were in that moment in love of what you were capable of.

And you just keep dialing in your preferences, and suddenly you're with somebody that fits where you're at right then. And you're like, oh, yeah, this what the fuck I've been looking for. Yeah, a brunette. That's sweet. In a nurse outfit.

B
Done. Oh, you just gave me chills. What the fuck?

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daddyrocketmoney.com. Daddy I want to discuss some of your song lyrics. You say I'm vanilla, baby, I'll choke you, but I ain't no killer, baby. Mm. You're smacking the delivery.

On a scale of vanilla to kinky, where are you at in your sex game? Five. Five. Weak ass answer, right? Come on.

A
Well, it's just like, I have. I have my kinks. I can't front, but I also. If you ask the woman I'm with, it's like. They're like, God damn, I wish I could get this guy to just fucking arch his back on top.

I'm like, I'm not arching my back. You're not putting nothing in my ass. Like, I'm sorry. It's me. That's me.

It's just. So. Everybody's got their thing, but I had to be coaxed. I had to be taught. I had to learn.

I had to learn how to talk during sex. Yes, you were. When I was 19. Yeah. I was just, like.

I was a breather, but I started to. I started to figure that out. And so, you know, people ask for what they want, and you're like, some of it, you're like, okay, this is actually turning me up. But then some of it, like, the lyric in the song is like, I'll do that for you, but it's not making my dick harder. But I know it's not.

It's not about me in that moment. Can you help me understand? We got vanilla, and we got kinky, and you're in the middle, so I'm gonna say something to you, and you're gonna tell me if it's vanilla or kinky, okay? Missionary sex. The best.

As good as it gets. It's that corner booth in sex form, ain't it? Don't you think? Sometimes people think missionary would be vanilla, but if you do it the right way. I know they think it is.

It's fine with me. That's how we got going, though. That's how the homo erectus was done. That's default. Let's just face facts.

It's default. We've been over sexualized as a culture, and motherfuckers don't want to look each other in the eye anymore and put their nose on each other's nose and put their tongue down each other's throats while they're getting strokes. Like, come on. Like, there's nothing better. There's nothing better.

And everybody has their own preferences. That's fine. It's not objective, but it feels pretty close to objective. Like, what you can get in there. Like, yeah, in there.

B
But I think some people really don't want to look at each other because they're like, I fucking hate you, but just. Let's fuck. But you're not like that. You're making sweet love. Typically, every once in a while, you gotta roll them off, but, yeah, yeah, yeah.

What is your favorite sex position? We just spent the last ten minutes. You. That is it. If I didn't ask.

A
You don't know what they call me. Wow. What do they call. You? Gotta make music, right?

MJ? MJ. No, they don't. You call yourself that? Nah, that's.

I don't know why I got that nickname. As a young child, my grandmother called me that. A two years old missionary Jack.

I was two years old. My grandma, you know that Simba had that shit. She wiped some of that shit on my head, and she's like, he's gonna love missionary.

B
What do you think about whips and chains? Obviously, it's in your song. I like no whips and chains, but you can hold me down.

A
It's a no go. I'm banilla. Baby, I choked. I love your takes on my voice. 28, telling me I'm still a baby.

No, I don't like whips and chains. I don't. I don't want to be tired. I don't. Sucking her toes.

B
Whose the girl you're hooking up with? If she said Jack, it would take the right woman. There's someone. I could bring it out of me, though. I know it.

Maybe it's the person earlier that you said. You didn't want to say it, perhaps. Yep. Sexting. Crucial.

A
Crucial. Hot take. Are you the guy that's sending paragraphs? Oh, the romance novels. Are you putting, like.

Then I bend you over and breathe in your ear, like, no. Furthermore, we move forward. I do a lot of. I just like to read with my left hand. Keep going.

Keep that, too. I like quick fire. And that's how I text. I like to send eight words, six words, five words, one after another. So I'll send.

I'll send somebody 13 texts in a row. I just hate when I read the paragraph. If a man has ever sexed me, and it's like, first, and I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ, here we go. It's like. Then moving forward, it go and you're like, let's just.

Yeah, I mean, that'll make you soft. I can lie. Once they go like that, you're like, yeah, that's good effort. My next question was a finger in the butthole.

I don't want nothing in my ass. But I don't mind somebody, you know, sifting. Sifting credit carding, you know, that's very intimate. I like being. I like being a little spoon.

Anyways. I don't mind somebody scratching my back and then saying, la daddy.

B
What about a little lek? I can. I could fuck with that. I could be. I can get cleaned up.

A
I see why you run this shit. You are funny. You are funny. You're. I feel like your DM's are gonna be scary after this episode.

B
Daddy gang goes hard. Girls. Listen to this. Only a few. I'm just joking.

Well, how do you feel about hand jobs?

A
Traumatized. I mean, my first pregnancy almost came from once.

I remember I used to love me a handjob. Really? And I still. I still. I'm a fan.

It has to be moisturized, but. Yeah, I like it. But I just remember that girlfriend I had, she used to stand in front of me at events and she would just work my shit over my jeans. I swear I'd look at that motherfucker later. Bitch was bruised, but at the moment it was like, over the jeans, working my shit.

I'm leaving there. Oh.

B
I've never given one of those. Do you suggest it's too late for you?

A
You pass that. What's your best skill in the bedroom? R and D.

Rhythm and dialogue.

Rhythm and dialogue? Mm hmm. Rhythm. Underrated. Just like me.

Misunderstood too.

B
Do you think you're misunderstood? I just. I guess I just feel like.

A
I guess I just feel like I wish I fit in. I don't know. What are you saying in the bedroom? What are you doing over there? Are you now after you went through your breathing?

B
Faith. Cause that's why. Cause now I don't breathe. There is. I had work to be done and met somebody older than me, and so I think it just turned my dialogue up.

They said, let me teach you. Yeah. And it got out of it. It just became very like, express what you feel right now. Just express it.

A
You don't need no lines. You wrote earlier. Say what you feel right this moment. So to anyone, watch it out there. That's what I recommend.

Literally. Stream of consciousness is the best thing you can do. Like, what are you feeling against your flesh right now? Describe it. If you can vividly describe it.

Talk about it. Talk about how you feel about it. What you want. What you want for them.

B
Say it. Let it be known. Literature. Are you good at detecting if a woman is faking an orgasm? Damn.

Mm hmm. No, I'm not. So sad. So many women have probably faked it.

A
You're awesome. Like, think about all the women. I mean, surely, surely don't want to go to dinner later. For sure. Cause you're gonna pay.

B
And, like, you know what it is? They want the uber ride home.

Let's talk about your new single. It is really good. Thank you. It's like, it's nice to see you say something so earnest. I know it was hard for you.

A
I know you switching right back into character here shortly, but that moment meant a lot to me. It is really good. Thank you. It's so catchy. It's the Jack Harlow we know and love, and I think it must.

B
Can you talk to me, though, how it must feel like when you see it's so popular right now, trending on as we know, TikTok is so important right now for music. Also, what does it feel like when you wake up and you're like, everyone's making a fucking TikTok about? My song impact is always so validating. And I dropped an album earlier this year called Jackman that I would say, like, wasn't even in the TikTok universe. Obviously, there's people on tick tock because so many people on there that took it in, but it wasn't a TikTok moment the way this has been or first class has been.

A
And that album meant the world to me, and it was extremely introspective and personal, and I love it. It might be my best work thus far. And then to pivot back into something that is high octane, just fun, and, like, it comes on and it's like, it's not. It's not serious. It's like, let's enjoy ourselves.

Feels really good, because a lot of what I was making this year is the intimate. It's intimate. It's for the headphones. It's personal experience. This song is, like, you could feel it.

You want to play it at a show. Yeah. Is that annoying, though? Like, as musicians watch? It's like.

B
It's kind of wild how influential tick tock is right now. Like, there are people that their whole career started because they hit one beat in one song, and people like, who the fuck is this? So, like, is it annoying? Do you ever have to think of, like, what's going to work? And, like, what would maybe be better on social media?

A
Well, for example, like, that album I put out, I didn't make a single TikTok for it because it was like, this ain't that. But this song, I knew, like, I had such a feeling about it, like, I just want to cuz I know as soon as it came on, I was playing it for people and it just felt like something like the masses need to hear this. So of course you put some thought into like, yeah, I feel like this is, is gonna, they're gonna fuck with this. But I don't know if it's annoying. I mean, it's.

It's weird. Fucking culture is. And culture continues to move. There was something ten years ago that was happening to the music industry that was so annoying for people. I mean, the streaming switch, there's a world of people like, oh, this is.

And TikTok is a. Is a weapon, it's a vehicle. And of course there's people that are working on there, but longevity is longevity. So we're gonna eventually see who translates it to something more. But it's the weapon right now.

B
Yeah, it's so. It's unbelievable. It's crazy. It's unbelievable. What, um.

What is your writing process? Like, I like you in this bag, you know? I know you had this in you. Yeah, I'm a businesswoman. Like, I can tell I'm joking.

We can like, joke around. Let's see how much range you got. Thank you. My writing process, typically, I walk through life, have conversations, and I'll say something to somebody, like, we're talking here, and a first line will appear to me and I'll be like, oh, that's a good way to start a song. And I'll just write the first line down and suddenly I'll have this collection of first lines in my notes.

A
Then I go in the studio and a beat plays. And if I love a beat, I put it on and I start running through the first lines and saying different first lines on the beat and one of them just will slide right into place. Like, it'll just be like. And then my song starts. It's not always what it is, but for me, that is what has happened to me so many times is like, I come up and if you notice a lot of my songs, I put an emphasis on the first line.

Like, I really care about the first thing you hear being like, okay, here we go. And like, tyler hero for me, the ones that hate me the most look just like me. Like that was something I just had been wanting to save. And you're just waiting for a beat to place it. That's so interesting.

B
And then you take the other ones and hold them until you find another beat for them. Yeah, yeah, or something. And then you have the occasion, like, on loving on me, vanilla baby was. I heard the beat and he was talking about, I don't like no whips and chains. And I was like, okay, I get the subject matter.

A
And the first thing I thought of was like, um, vanilla baby. And you just mumble something out and you're like, okay, I'm in a groove. Let me lay this down. So sometimes the beat dictates it. You just get a feeling.

B
That's so crazy. So do you a lot of times, go in there and since you're recording, like, you'll just say a bunch of random shit that will stick, and then you can listen back and be like, oh, I liked what I said. It's like, it gets too messy for me. Yeah. And then you end up loving how you did something and you compromise.

A
You write a weak line just cause you want that bounce. So I try. I prefer to have the words written before I go in the booth. And a lot of my songs are one take. Like, first time I laid it down because it was so.

It was practiced before I got in there. Yeah, how long? So it doesn't take you that long to record a song? Depends if it's going. Most good songs don't take long because you're not getting in the way of.

There's no self doubt flooding it. Like, it's just flowing and whatever, sending it down to you. You're vomiting it out instead of like, oh, I shouldn't say that. Oh, they're not gonna like that. Oh, they're gonna like this.

That's when you get stuck and you only have three lines and it's been 2 hours. Yeah, but when it's gone, it's just, you can't stop it. What is it like when you go into the studio? I feel like so many people have, like, a certain vibe they need. Like, are you.

B
Do you have a lot of people in the studio? Do you have no one? Do you set a vibe? Do you like candles? Do you need certain snacks?

Like, what's your. I used to want to be alone. I didn't want. I didn't want people in there. I thought, I don't want to be judged.

A
Yeah, I want to be able to be myself. And I actually realized what brings me out is an audience, someone to impress, whether that's the producers in the room. Maybe I invite a girl through and you just activate your swag a little bit because you want to walk out of the booth and have those two people, those four people be like, yo, you fucking cuz they're a crowd. Of 10,000 people in that moment. Right.

So if you have someone to impress, it goes a really long way. I'm always impressed by people that can, like, I can write really intimate, introspective stuff alone. Cuz I'm alone. Yeah. But to make bangers, like, where I'm popping shit and it's compelling and has conviction, I need an audience that's.

B
I could see that, like, you almost start to flex a little bit more and, like, you'll go for stuff more. You posture and. Yeah, you're trying to, you know, you're trying to impress the person in the room, and oftentimes they made the beat, and so it's this exchange they play you to beat, and they're like, you got to fuck this up. And you're like, I'm about to fuck this up for you. You go in there, you lay something, you come out, y'all both listen to it, and you start, and it's like.

A
It's euphoric. All you want in that because there's no one else there. All you want in that moment is the people you're with. To be like, you killed that, right? That's fire.

You might write based on who's there. Cause, you know, they'll, like, if I. Do this, I'm so happy for you. I feel like, why I love doing this is because, like, as much as we joke, like, getting to know you, being younger, running through the streets, like, giving your mixtapes out, handing people cds, like, it's cool to see someone that always knew what they wanted to do and then doing it, even if you don't have, like, the biggest stage and, like, still running with it, and then to get to where you are now and seeing your success. Thank you.

B
Congratulations. It's really cool. You strike me as somebody that's very driven and knows what they want to, so I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you.

What should fans expect to see from you next? I'm active. I'm feeling good. I can't lie. I'm ready to keep coming.

A
I ain't going on hiatus. I'll say that.

B
More coming. Oh, yeah. I think we want that. I'm hungry. I know we want that.

A
I'm hungry. I'm very. I'm very hungry. I can tell. I have a chip on my shoulder.

B
And you should keep it that way. I will. For as long as I can. It's gonna be sitting there. I'm really excited to see what comes next for your career.

This new song is amazing. Obviously, we all want another album tours, all the good things. But for now, we will take the song and I love it. Thank you. I really do.

A
Thank you. It's such a vibe. I've been listening to it like an annoying amount. That's wonderful. Yeah.

B
Yeah. That's what I need. Jack, thank you so much. It's been a pleasure. I'm not just saying it's fun, right?

A
It's been fun. Thank you. Thank you for taking it easy on me. Low key. You didn't really give me a choice, but I didn't want to like disrespect you and like push you, too.

That's nice of you. Thank you. Thank you for coming on caller Daddy. Thanks for having me. We did it.

We did it. That wasn't that bad, right? Wonderful. That was fun. That's a hit.

B
That's a hit. That's a hit.

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Jack Harlow: I'm Not Vanilla Baby (FBF) [VIDEO]

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