The War on Lesbians & Wholesome Families

This episode examines the perceived cultural war against lesbians and the celebration of wholesome, traditional family structures.

1. Lesbians' Struggles: Lesbians feel their safe spaces and identities are being encroached upon by non-passing trans women, which leads to significant community and personal conflicts.
2. Cultural Criticism: Traditional lifestyles, especially those involving heterosexual relationships and family structures, are viewed by some as inherently oppressive or violent towards marginalized groups.
3. Ideological Confrontation: There is a perceived battle between progressive and conservative values, where each side believes the other's lifestyle leads to unhappiness and societal harm.
4. Misinterpretation of Violence: The episode discusses how some groups redefine violence to include emotional discomfort, impacting discourse around gender and health.
5. Impact on Children: The episode touches on how ideologies affect children, particularly within the context of gender identity and societal expectations.

1: Introduction

The hosts introduce the episode's controversial topics, framing the discussion around societal changes affecting lesbians and traditional families. Malcolm Collins: "Any form of emotional pain is considered a form of violence..."

2: The Struggle for Safe Spaces

Discussion on how lesbians' communities are being invaded by individuals they do not accept as part of their community. Malcolm Collins: "Imagine you're living in a society where... you're kicked out of even these safe spaces."

3: Ideological Battles

Exploration of how different life choices and cultural backgrounds lead to societal clashes. Malcolm Collins: "It's funny because intuitively I would expect... they're looking at these ideas and you have created this cognitive dissonance in them."

4: Consequences of Cultural Shifts

Analysis of the broader implications of these cultural conflicts on everyday people and their relationships. Simone Collins: "And we even, for example, have bought copies of some toys..."

5: Closing Remarks

The hosts summarize their thoughts and reflect on the need for understanding and dialogue between differing viewpoints. Malcolm Collins: "Oh, my gosh. I love my wife, I love my kids, and I love this you have created for me."

1. Engage in Open Dialogues: Encourage discussions that bridge ideological divides without accusations or assumptions.
2. Educate on Different Perspectives: Learn about the various sides of cultural debates to better understand the underlying issues.
3. Support Inclusive Spaces: Advocate for spaces that respect and include diverse identities and opinions.
4. Promote Understanding of Violence: Educate on the difference between physical violence and emotional discomfort.
5. Encourage Critical Thinking: Teach children to think critically about the media they consume and the ideologies they are presented with.

In this thought-provoking discussion, Malcolm and Simone delve into the reasons behind the far left's visceral reactions to traditional, wholesome lifestyles. They explore how the ultra-progressive ideology views emotional pain as a form of violence and how this leads to a disdain for happy, heteronormative relationships. The couple also touches on the concerning trend of trans activists targeting vulnerable communities, particularly lesbians and autistic children. Simone shares her unique perspective as a former progressive woman now living a fulfilling, traditional life with Malcolm. Join them as they unpack the complexities of this controversial topic and shed light on the importance of specialization and trust in healthy relationships.

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Malcolm Collins, Simone Collins

Content Warnings:

The episode discusses themes of sexuality, gender identity, and cultural conflict which might be sensitive to some listeners.

Malcolm Collins
Any form of emotional pain is considered a form of violence and something that should be systematically avoided. So even when it causes you pain through cognitive dissonance, like maybe I would have wanted to have. Yeah, we're gonna get there. We're gonna get there. But you jump to the answer, but we gotta get to there point by point.

I was watching lesbians complaining about their communities being invaded, and I just can't imagine what it would feel like. Imagine you're living in a society where, like, space marines exist. Okay? There are these people that are 20% larger than you, five times stronger than you, but now these people who are very sexually aggressive are demanding that you suck their penises. And now everyone who you thought before was, like, part of your safe space is now saying that you're a bigot and you're not really straight because you won't suck these men's penises.

And so now you're kicked out of even these safe spaces, and you. Honestly, I think that's how it feels. That's how it feels to them, for sure. Would you like to know more? I already did.

Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today, and I want to talk about an idea that I had recently and actually had it a while ago, but it's something that I've really been reflecting on in my thinking is the vitriol we see certain far left urban monoculture activists react to wholesome things with. And how do you find wholesome here? What you're doing right now, being with your kid, they'll see a loving family, or they'll see. They're like, that looks so heteronormative.

That looks so. No, you see this. You see these attacks. You know, they'll see a trad wife, and they'll be like, this isn't a. This is misogynistic for her to be living this life or for her to be in a happy relationship with a straight white man.

And here I can put the. I've been attacked.

You went out with a white male. I was a freshman, fresh person, and I have been thinking, why this extremist reaction to this? And it occurred to me that from the perspective of ultra far left ideology, wholesomeness and a wholesome lifestyle is literally a lifestyle of violence. It is a form of violence against marginalized communities. From their perspective, they would call marginalized communities.

Simone Collins
How so? If it's 100% sovereign in one's own house. Exactly how? Because that is an interesting question. And so we need to go into their world structure.

Malcolm Collins
So the first aspect of their world structure that we need to understand is it is a cultural system that is completely defined. And I talk about this all the time, so I'll be very quick in summarizing this. Defined around any form of emotional pain is considered a form of violence and something that should be systematically avoided. So even if it causes you pain through cognitive dissonance, like maybe I would have wanted to. Yeah, we're gonna get there.

We're gonna get there. But you jump to the answer, but we gotta get to there point by point. So you look at something like the haze movement, the healthy at every size movement. Why would you hide from women mostly, that being overweight is. Has negative long term health repercussions, because it causes in the moment pain, and therefore it's an evil thing to do.

Because in the moment, emotional pain, and they force an evil thing to do. Or you tell them your lifestyle will not lead you to long term happiness, that is a form of violence against them because you have caused this emotional pain to them. This is where things like misgendering and stuff like that, they're like, this is a form of violence and it should be outlawed. Like, it's obviously not a form of violence. So then how are they defining violence?

They're defining violence around things that make them feel upset with what they've allowed their lives to become. Call somebody out for their own failures as a form of violence. Wow. I could see that. When our kids fight, it's typically because one kid sees the other kid having a really good time with a toy, and then suddenly their entire life is misery because they do not have that one toy.

Simone Collins
And we even, for example, have bought copies of some toys. We have bumper cars, for example, and we have two identical orange bumper cars. Cause you very intelligently, the kids have. Noticed they make slightly different noises. Yes.

So they're like. We're like, there's another bumper card. Just get in the empty identical pumper car. They're like, no, I want this bumper. I want toasty's bumper car.

And they see it, and yes, they experience real pain. Actually, before we go further with this topic, I would like people to reflect on this in their own life, how much of the things they desire is just because they saw somebody else having fun with it and now they want it. Keep in mind, I think everything makes a lot more sense, though, once you've had toddlers and siblings. Yeah. How hard coded this is in us world of status signaling.

Malcolm Collins
And I saw somebody else who had these things, and they are either high status or seem to be happy. Therefore, I want these things. I need that thing. Yes, the trad wife is working so well to market an idea and a lifestyle. Right?

Simone Collins
But hold on, though, because for whatever reason, tradwives don't appear to be watching the progressive youtubers and the progressive commentators and going, oh, why don't I have my, I don't know. What do they have? Nobody wants their lives. Like, I look at these ultra progressive lives, it just seems like anybody wants them. They're like, yeah, but I get to do whatever I want and be affirmed for being whoever I want to be.

Malcolm Collins
And we're, meanwhile, the other side of the aisle is like, but won't that, like, really mess up your head and cause a lot of mental health issues and make you fundamentally unfulfilled? And they're like, don't say that's violence. Well, it's funny because intuitively I would expect, like, when I model my progressively raised, I would assume that when people from more conservative cultures see my progressive lifestyle of getting to do whatever I want in the moment, that feels good, that they would be jealous, oh, I'm fasting on Sunday. It's conference Sunday and I can't eat or whatever. And then, oh, look, they're eating pancakes at ihop and I'm so jealous and whatever.

Simone Collins
Right? Like, you think they'd be jealous. And it's interesting to me that doesn't seem to be taking place that we look at. Yeah, I think the progressive model of the conservative mind is just by bigotry, where bigotry is pre judgment and dehumanization of another group that they don't understand from the perspective of conservatives, that they get to masturbate all day whenever they feel like and eat all the foods they feel like whenever they feel like. And, um, we're not looking at that with envy.

Malcolm Collins
We're like, oh, like, that's sad. Which is also very interesting from aggressive mindset. When they're looking at these videos and they're looking at these ideas and you have created this cognitive dissonance in them. Like, the wholesomeness is literally a form of violence against them. It is literally hurtful to them because it shows that two groups promise two different things.

And Beau said, this thing will give you happiness. There's two different cultural assumptions around what gives a person fulfillment and happiness. And they need to believe the other group was lying because they know that there's no happiness at the end of what they have. And I will say that there is definitely a form of the trad wife, like the ultra strict trad wife. We've done a different video on this that is a complete larp.

And it is. It does lead to unhappiness. Ultimately, you look at a relationship like Stephen Crowder's or something like that, where he's bought into this ultra traditionalist mindset that is not really, that has, like, genuine misogyny as part of it. Or Lauren Southern, who got the divorce after trying trad wife lifestyle and just seeing that you need a real traditional relationship. So I'd go watch her video on that and I'll post the title card on the screen here so it's easier to find.

But this is interesting because it provides an explanation for something that I think can be confusing to conservatives, which is progressives for so long said they just wanted the government out of their house, not regulating them. Why now that they are in power, are they trying to disintermediate anyone from seeing these sort of conservative messages? And are they so antagonistic to these how to be healthy heterosexual relationships and marriages and even wholesome gay marriages? So we have gay friends who are like conservative leaning and have kids and have structured this very wholesome lifestyle for themselves. And they confide in us that they actually deal with a lot of ostracization from the gay community and are seen as being traitors to the community.

And you actually see this within black community as well. For example, like, you can ask, like, why are so often these wholesome two parent black families seen as race traitors, seen as like, othered by the black community? Like, you're not really black, say these things, that they vote conservative and move into these conservative mindsets. And part of it is that they are a form of violence against the iterations of the black community that went with other cultural hypotheses, like the dissolution of the family unit, which I should say is being pushed very hard. It's like a key aspect of marxist philosophy is the dissolution of the family unit.

And so they worked really hard in the communities where they have more sway, like the black community, to actively dissolve family units. Wow. And so, like, the huge percentage of black kids that are being born. And I'll put the statistic here into single families. That is an active campaign by certain extremists, like priest factions within the urban monoculture.

And I also think that this comes to another thing where they're like, well, you guys are often guffawing at far progressives and stuff like that and getting worried about it, like, why are you doing that? Right? And I should point out here that we don't like. You'll never hear us on our channel, like attacking gay men, for example, or even really gay women on our channel. But you'll often hear us complaining about the trans community.

So what's the difference between these various groups? Right. And it's that the trans community is really actively targeting individuals who I do not believe are actually trans. And most of them are individuals who are. Have mental health issues.

Really disproportionately. They target autistic children, which our children are falling the category of and attempt to. I actually had a joke recently that's gonna put on Twitter or something where I was like, we have autistic children, or as they're called within the trans community, eggs. Do you know what an egg is within the trans community? No.

That's a target that they think might be potentially trans. It needs to have it shell cracked. And if you look at the recent research that's been coming out, we now know that of eleven year olds, nine out of ten of them who identify with the opposite gender are going to detransition within five years. Are going to no longer have that predilection within five years. Yeah.

Simone Collins
They're doing irreparable damage if they're getting some kind of intervention. Yeah, yeah. And if you look at the long term medical issues that people who transition have and stuff like that. So that's why we focus so much on that community, because it's actively doing harm to other cultural groups and. And survives through this active form of harm.

Malcolm Collins
Which actually brings me to another thing I can complain about right now on this episode, because it was really getting to me today based on some episodes I was watching of detransitioned individuals and lesbians complaining about their communities being invaded. And I just can't imagine what it would feel like. I understand where some terfs are coming from, what it would feel like to be a lesbian woman and have this movement that was moving to, like, women only spaces where you could go and dating apps. And just as the rest of the gay rights movement is really getting together now, all of a sudden, if you're a lesbian woman on a dating app, everyone who's reaching out to you is a non passing trans woman. Every single person that's reaching out and you are being called a bigot for not going on dates with them.

We're. Keep in mind, a lot of these women have fear around getting raped or something like that, or they're just, in. Terms of sexual orientation, uniquely turned off by male characteristics. That's totally a thing that exists. So a couple things I wanted to go a bit deeper on here.

C
One of the things we talk about in the pragmatist guide to sexuality is that human arousal, when it comes to gender, is not divided into male and female. It's divided into specific environmental stimuli. That is, seeing a penis, seeing breasts, seeing the male form, seeing the female form. And it exists on a spectrum of arousal to disgust. So in some individuals, seeing one of these gendered things can generate a very large amount of disgust in them.

The exact opposite of arousal. Actually, we argue that it's literally the opposite of arousal. Um, when you are aroused, your pupils dilate. You look at something longer. You typically breathe in.

When you are disgusted, you typically look away from something as much as possible. You want to get away from it instead of go closer to it. Your pupils contract, and you hold your nose. We suspect they're operating off the same system, but anyway, you know, so they are experiencing an extreme amount of disgust when they're seeing these individuals. And we'd also note that the trans individuals, you know, people born men who are going into these lesbian spaces, they are not the normal types of trans individuals.

You see. They are, well, the creepy ones, the ones who don't have any sort of normal social consideration and no sort of boundaries. And this is the thing where a lot of people are like, come on. Are you really telling me that if you gave creepy, sexually aggressive men way to predate on women just by lying about their gender, that they would do that creepy, sexually aggressive men would lie to try to sleep with lesbian women? And then, of course, you reflect on this for a second.

Malcolm Collins
Of course. Of course. That's exactly what creepy, sexually aggressive men would do, especially if you gave them a social cheat where no one's allowed to criticize their behavior. All the men who claim to be lesbian are AGP 100% because they're heterosexual, right? If there were gay dudes who were trans, they wouldn't even be anywhere near lesbian spaces.

E
I have never met a transbian that was not an autogenophile. And that is, I think, even the worst part of this is we are getting the sickest and creepiest dudes. This isn't the. What most people think a trans woman is. I think the most average person who's just not involved this thinks a trans woman is a super effeminate gay man who transitioned fully, and they're like, well, she's okay.

D
She can use the bathroom. That is not the majority of what's happening here. Hi, my name is Luz. I'm a trans and polyamorous therapist in Texas, and this is my therapy theme of the week. This week's theme honors lesbian Visibility Week, as I myself am a trainer lesbian.

F
This is what I want to say about lesbians. One of the reasons why I love being a lesbian and I love lesbians, is because we get to show the world that it is possible to love outside the dimensions of patriarchy. We, with sapphic love, create an entirely different dimension, an entirely different way of loving people and living. And it's so fucking beautiful. It's as important as the sunshine.

G
I once heard that a lot of lesbians, particularly cis lesbians, initiate flirting with other women is through eye contact. You could just tell in the eyes, oh, they're in you. As an autistic trans woman, that doesn't work, because, for one, I need people to be very direct with me, because I don't like to make assumptions about their intentions. By default, most trans women have their walls up and are ready to brawl, because if a woman's staring at us, there's just this innate fear that they're gonna. That they've clocked us, and they're gonna say some turf bullshit, and we gotta.

Malcolm Collins
Start threatening, who the. Yeah, you're gonna be clacked. Look at you. Have you seen yourself? Is there a mirror in your house, sir?

Yeah. And so if I was gonna convey to a straight guy how this would feel, okay, imagine you're living in a society where, like, space marines exist, okay? They're these people that are 20% larger than you, five times stronger than you, and you had decided that you only liked women. You, as a guy, only like women, right? You like having sex with women, and you really don't like penises or anything like that.

But now, all of a sudden, a category of these space marines who are all male, okay, they all have penises. Everything like that has started saying that they're women on dating apps. They're the only group reaching out to you. They go into what used to be, like, safe spaces, because you used to have these private spaces where, like, only men could go before. But now these people who are very sexually aggressive are coming into these spaces, and they're demanding that you suck their penises.

They are demanding. And now everyone who you thought before was, like, part of your safe space is now saying that you're a bigot and you're not really straight because you won't suck these men's penises. And so now you're kicked out of even these safe spaces, and you. Honestly, I think that's how it feels. That's how it feels to them, for sure.

Yeah, that's how it feels to them. It's either you suck space marine cock or you are no longer a straight male. Like, you'd be, like, just one. The fear that you would live with every day when you go to one of these spaces, and then all of a sudden, this twelve foot tall person marches in with ten times your muscle mass. And this formerly was a community where you felt safe talking about what it feels like to be a non space marine in a space marine society.

Um, I feel so bad for them. It's not that I don't also feel for actual trans individuals. I think the real thing, I think some individuals are actually trans individuals, but they can't understand why women who were born women would want spaces where these other category of person isn't coming into. Or because men are like, people who are born men are much more, like, sexually aggressive on these apps and stuff like that. And now there's no, like, female only dating apps or women who were born women, like, cis women, only.

Cis lesbian women only dating apps. That just doesn't exist. Like, even her and stuff like that is now regularly promoting. Like, you can get categorized and kicked off the app for being a quote unquote terf for saying a trans woman, you can get kicked off Tinder for this. You can get kicked off of.

E
First I got kicked off of Tinder for putting that. I was. I think I put female only because. I know her used to be pretty specific for women. And then they released the whole thing, like, their whole policy, basically saying, oh, we don't discriminate against anybody, and everybody's welcome.

D
And then at that point, you're like, then it's not lesbian. Like, it's not for women. Her has even had. I don't remember the exact wording, but they've had, like, kind of pop up announcements on the app about terfism. Oh, that's.

E
There's a specific category to report people for being terfs. Oh, my God. On what's supposed. What started as a lesbian dating app. And so all of the people reaching out to you, and so you just become, like, an incel.

Malcolm Collins
Like, if people say, incel women don't exist. Like, this is the one category where I'd be like, there probably are actual incel lesbians. Just because you can't go into any public space without being hit on by, like, hundreds of what? To you. To me, I've got nothing against trans people doing what they're doing.

But would I sleep with one of them? Especially one of them who doesn't pass as a straight man? Most straight men are like, viscerally. Yeah, I get it. Lesbians.

I get why you're having this visceral reaction to this than to have this entire safety net. So there's that. But then there's also this hatred of wholesomeness that we regularly see because of the explosion of mental health issues in these communities that sought, like, a constant hose of dopamine, just do whatever I want, whenever I want. And there's a lot of cope that comes out of that, too. One of the most common responses appears to be, oh, this is all a lie.

Simone Collins
It is all an illusion. I think this is one of the big reasons why eight passengers crashed and burned so publicly, is that at first you had this large trad family that took a more conservative approach to parenting. They were harder on punishment, et cetera. And then finally they just went off the rails, crashed and burned. And it allowed a huge portion of the community, the progressive community, to say, see exactly every family, every conservative family that appears wholesome in the end, it turns out that the mother has joined some kind of psychologist cult and is leaving the father and the kids are being, you know, horribly treated and all of these things.

And that's a huge message that I see as well. So it's not just framing it as an attack. I think a lot of it also is just turning it into cope because even acknowledging that it's an attack acknowledges that you wish that you had that for yourself. So as a former progressive woman who grew up in San Francisco, did you think relationships like ours existed? Or did you think, no, of course not.

Malcolm Collins
You've seen pretty deeply into both the lifestyles, be the person who's just being like, honestly, this is how it is. Like, what are your thoughts like? Is it really as good as they say it is? Is it better than they say it is? Is it?

Yeah. What are your real thoughts? The mindset that I was raised with, if I were to see a trad wife, and I'd never encountered a trad wife, so I would have thought that it was fictional. First would be that this is someone who's extremely sheltered and doesn't know any better. So they've just been essentially robbed of a series of opportunities in their lives, and they are a trad wife because it is all that they've been exposed to, which, to be fair, is how many people are raised.

Simone Collins
Ayla was raised in an environment where she was just told that, like, all of her education was just so she could be a good homeschooling, stay at home mother. And then she leaves that world and realizes that she was robbed of a lot of opportunities. And that's a very legitimate complaint. So I think the perception of the world that I was raised with is not totally wrong. And I think that's one of the reasons why this kind of mindset, this view that a lot of people in this position are being lied to are just missing a lot of opportunities that they otherwise would have pursued, is because a lot of the time it's true.

I think that the big thing that's missing is that progressives don't grow up understanding fully the supportive role that traditional cultures play. And I definitely grew up really envying and really missing this concept of having traditions and having holidays and having a cohesive culture and having a we do this, we stand for that. This is what we're all about. And even the books that my parents read to me as I was a kid, it seemed like this fantasy that was so appealing, that was so cozy, but that had gone extinct. So I could see people who are progressive now looking at a trad family and saying, you are just cosplaying as this thing that isn't real anymore and it can't be real.

And this is really offensive because I want it to. Like my parents. And many people went through this. They were ready little house on the prairie by their parents. So they read those books as a kid and they loved this life that's actually quite austere, that's quite difficult.

There's disease, there's danger, there's deprivation, but it's one of the coziest book series you could possibly read. And there's this perception that just is something that could happen in the past and couldn't happen now. And I think that people hear that I have final say on all things in our relationship. And I think that there's the assumption that then I must be like, as a person living in this relationship where it's like an actually healthy sort of trad like relationship, do you feel like the misogyny I think you would assume as an outsider, like of me having final say in everything? Do you feel like you're not consulted in decisions or that I.

Not at all. I think what people miss when it comes down to hierarchies in a relationship is that it doesn't feel like a hierarchy. It feels, it feels like specialization of labor. It feels like an economic decision and choice. Someone that I was corresponding with who followed this podcast, was telling me, this is someone I admire deeply.

She's amazing. A homeschooling mother of seven. Yeah, that's what we always call. We're not going to name, we don't name anyone because we're not going to reveal anyone. But she was talking about how people really misunderstand trad relationships and that this whole concept of people exerting their dominance is like pulling rank.

And whenever you're pulling rank, you are essentially like paying capital. You are. You're demonstrating the fact that you didn't have that rank in the first place. You're trying to reassert something that you haven't earned and that in a true relationship where you have a hierarchy because it's naturally sorting, you have specialization of labor, and you never have this feeling of maintaining frame or pulling rank or shit testing because it is just so clear that you are really good at this. I'm really good at this.

We're going to do our jobs and we trust each other to do a good job because we see that the outcomes are ideal when we trust each other. That you earn that hierarchy, you earn that position. So, yeah, I think that's also something that's not really seen in, in progressive circles when they look at traditional circles, because, one, relationships have been so broken down that it's just understood that people are in these atomized relationships where they don't really have. No one has a specialization, no one has a role, no one has, everyone has to be able to do absolutely everything by themselves. Their finances are by themselves, their career is by themselves, their friendships are by themselves.

So there's no specialization. And then there's also this really huge misrepresentation among so called conservatives who constantly talk about maintaining frame and constantly talk about shit tests and constantly talk about their dominance and constantly are pulling ranking. And they totally mess. Like, they act as though that they are, they represent trad life when they are 100% not at all representative of trad life. I completely agree with you.

Malcolm Collins
And another interesting thing that I wanted to highlight here, because our eight passengers video never is going live because we did film one on it. And what I said on that video a long time ago, right after the eight passenger situation happened, is I looked at some of the stuff so people who don't know, she basically fell into a cult with this other lady who started living with them. And I looked at pictures of her and I was like, this lady's a lesbian. Yeah, definitely. And then I'll put pictures on the screen.

If you grew up around a lot of gay people, you can, like, tell, like, she sets off the gaydar to such an extreme that even people with. No gaydar are like, but that's a lesbian, right? Yeah. Her actions make sense now. So what she would do is try to break up men and tell them that they were addicted to porn of women.

And I think it's because she was. And so she just learned she could say this to any guy to break up. Like, her whole thing was attempting to break up straight. I don't even, I don't think necessarily she has to have been addicted to porn to do that. I think she discovered that it was very easy to do that, to assert her own dominance within a relationship and disintermediate the husband and wife.

It was worse doing a whole video on how she brainwashed people because it. Was a really tactic. Comment below if you think so. Yeah. And it sounds like our kids are back from the park.

Oh, my gosh. I love my wife, I love my kids, and I love this you have created for me. We need to do some wholesome family time. I'm looking forward to it. Am I making.

Simone Collins
Oh, we're making you be full Gogi tonight. Well, Gogi and then corn. Ribs. Yes, ribs are. But I saw that trader Joe's and I was like, let's try it.

Let's do it. Let's do it. Yes. You are a very special and amazing woman. And thank you for committing violence against the urban monoculture every day by enjoying your life and broadcasting.

Thank you for asserting your dominance through your natural superiority. I love you so much. Oh, maybe this is tied to women online all the time, always posting their losses. Like, everyone's always talking about women posting their losses. That might make another video.

Malcolm Collins
What? Good. There's this trend online of, like, women posting, like, really horrible days or when they really screwed up or when they really, like, just, oh, this horrible thing happened to me. Women don't do this very frequently. Yeah, I'll pull up a compilation on it.

It's an interesting phenomenon. I have not fallen down this hole yet. Okay, cool. Looking forward to it.

I've got the kids. Thank you.

Simone Collins
Thank you.