The Deranged Misogyny of Star Wars The Acolyte! (Only Men Can Create Life???)

This episode examines and critiques the problematic portrayal of gender roles in the new "Star Wars: The Acolyte" series, highlighting perceived misogyny in its narrative.

1. The portrayal of gender roles in "The Acolyte" suggests a misunderstanding or misrepresentation of feminist themes.
2. Hollywood's creative decisions are influenced by a complex web of biases and political correctness, according to the hosts' experiences.
3. The episode discusses broader issues of cultural handling and representation in media.
4. The hosts speculate on the sustainability of current trends in media production and content creation.
5. The narrative choices in "The Acolyte" are criticized for lacking sensitivity and perpetuating stereotypes.

1: Introduction and Overview

Hosts introduce the episode's theme, focusing on gender roles and creation myths in "Star Wars: The Acolyte." They set the stage for a detailed critique of the series.

• Malcolm Collins: "It would be like if you wrote a biblical fanfiction and knew the Jesus story."

2: Hollywood and Cultural Critique

Discussion on Hollywood's decision-making process and its impact on media representation, intertwined with personal anecdotes from the hosts' professional experiences.

• Simone Collins: "We have some interesting insider industry information."

3: Misogyny and Media Representation

Analyzes specific scenes from "The Acolyte" that the hosts find misogynistic, discussing broader implications for media and culture.

• Malcolm Collins: "This is even more misogynistic than real human earth biology."

4: Conclusions and Reflections

The episode wraps up with reflections on the potential future of media narratives and the role of conservative voices in Hollywood.

• Simone Collins: "They need to have sensitivity readers."

1. Critically evaluate media: Viewers should analyze media critically, considering the implications of how gender and power are portrayed.
2. Engage in discussions: Encourage open discussions about media representations with friends and online to broaden perspectives.
3. Support diverse media: Actively support productions that handle gender and cultural issues sensitively and intelligently.
4. Educate on media literacy: Increase your own and others' media literacy to better understand the creation and impact of media narratives.
5. Challenge stereotypes: Be vocal in challenging stereotypes and problematic portrayals in all forms of media.

In this episode, Malcolm and Simone Collins delve into the controversial portrayal of a lesbian cult in the latest Star Wars series, The Acolyte. The couple breaks down the problematic elements of the show, including its misogynistic undertones, bizarre plot devices, and the implications of the cult's reproductive practices.
Malcolm and Simone discuss how the show's attempt to introduce a powerful female-led community ultimately fails, as it relies on harmful stereotypes and illogical plot points. They examine the cult's use of the Force to impregnate women, drawing parallels to the immaculate conception of Anakin Skywalker and the troubling notion that men create children while women merely carry them.

The conversation also touches on the decline of the Star Wars franchise, with Simone sharing her personal journey as a fan and pinpointing the moment she lost interest in the series. Malcolm and Simone explore the idea of Jar Jar Binks as a Sith Lord and the prevalence of racial stereotypes in the earlier films.

Throughout the discussion, the couple shares insights into the challenges of creating conservative-leaning content in the current entertainment landscape, drawing from their own experiences with a canceled documentary project. They highlight the role of legal departments and institutional bureaucracies in stifling diverse viewpoints within major streaming networks.

People

Simone Collins, Malcolm Collins

Companies

Disney, Hollywood

Books

None

Guest Name(s):

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Content Warnings:

Discussions of misogyny and cultural stereotypes

Malcolm Collins
It would be like if you wrote a biblical fanfiction and you knew the Jesus story, and you were like. And there was this whole other town, this whole other town of lesbians where everyone just prays to God and gets pregnant in the same way Mary did. Hold on. This is where it gets insane and misogynistic. Okay, so there is a famous scene in this.

Simone Collins
I carried them.

Malcolm Collins
I created them, which implies that men create the child and women carry the child. This is even more misogynistic than real human earth biology. So she's actually. Actually, I inseminated you, therefore I created the child. Therefore I am the dominant partner in this relationship and make all child rearing decisions.

Speaker C
Would you like to know more? I am so excited for this episode. Yes. Okay, let's do it. Let's go for it.

Simone Collins
Yeah. This is gonna be the worst. Yes. She's the worst. She's the worst person in the world.

Malcolm Collins
Huge skank. Terrible. What did I tell you, huh? The worst.

She's the worst in the world. I gotta put the word, because, oh, my God, does this deserve it? Two things that is going to make this somewhat unique when contrasted with other discussions of the acolyte. One is we have some interesting insider industry information, given that our own documentary was recently canceled, about how decisions are being made inside of Hollywood right now, which can help you understand how something as insane of this could have gotten greenlit, because that is something that, before we worked in Hollywood, genuinely perplexed me. Why is this getting greenlit?

It's obviously not good for the industry. But then the second is how absolutely misogynistic the ideas presented in the acolyte are. But wasn't it, like, produced by women? Yes, it was. They were trying to create something that was misandrist, a world.

And I want to get your reaction to the world. Start with one of the most controversial things. So let's get your real time reaction to this guy. No one doesn't know what happens. Yeah.

Simone Collins
Tell me about the acolyte. I didn't know it is out. I did not know there was more Star wars property to enjoy. So I have not watched anything. I have not seen a single preview.

Malcolm Collins
During the High Republic. What is the high Republic? A long time before most of the stuff that you've seen. So pre queen Amidala or before very before that. Long before, yeah.

This is in a time when there were lots of cis and lots of Jedi's, before the rule of two living. In harmony, there wasn't a time but. Different era of Star wars. Okay. The point being, this isn't important to the show right now.

Simone Collins
Okay? So the point being into the High Republic, it follows two twins, an evil twin and a good twin. Oh, my goodness. There's an evil twin. It reminds me of that scene.

Malcolm Collins
I've got to post it from sky high. What if I said it's not just. Her twin, it's her evil twin? This Friday you say medulla, you dog. Sky high is so undersold as a show.

Simone Collins
It really is. Do you want to go? Because it's about a world of superheroes and it plays a lot of tropes from that. And one guy asked me, the guy, do you want to go on a date with twins? What if I told you she was the evil twin?

Malcolm Collins
That's such a great scene. Anyway, I can already tell that this movie's very unique and bold in its. No, no, hold on. I haven't gotten to the insane part yet. So is the one where everyone goes crazy.

So episode three takes place in a backstory where these two girls were raised. They were raised in a lesbian cult or religion. Okay? Everyone's a woman. It's run by a strong black woman, so don't worry about that.

This is very south park predicted this. Make her game. Uh, yes, Miss Kennedy? Uh, some of the execs are just expressing that maybe, well, that maybe we. Should go a different route than we did with Indiana Jones.

Speaker D
Fuck Indiana Jones. Put a ticket in, make a labyrinth gay. Any diverse woman in it. Make it sad, but misses Kennedy. Ba.

Malcolm Collins
Bambi's a baby deer. Fuck baby deer. Put a chicken in, make her gay. The ingreeni and clam sauce. Excuse me, I believe I asked you to put a chicken this and make her gay.

Uh, yes, the chef was a little confused what you meant by that. It means put a chicken linguine and make her fucking gay. And I want it lame. And I think that's why she was so mad, as probably this was already so well under production at that point that she couldn't stop it. But they put a chick in her and make her gay and lame.

Simone Collins
Oh, no. Being amimed. Like when this thing had been greenlit and funded and she couldn't get out of it. Lesbian cult. But were they trying to play it off like Amazon's Amazon warrior?

Malcolm Collins
Much more wiccanish than that. It's very clear. There's this one scene where they're all chanting and very wicked and, oh, they call it a force, but we call. It a thread if Amazons were really mystical. Yeah.

So I got to get your reaction to this? So how do you suppose this tribe of all lesbians procreated in the Star wars universe? By the way, I met Simone in her pictures. On her dating profile, she wore film grade stormtrooper armor for 517 division, like, very into Star wars back in the day. We still have Star wars art on our walls from back when she was younger.

This is something that she identified with but hasn't really watched any of the recent stuff because. Why haven't you watched the recent stuff? It started sucking. I don't like it anymore. How do you suppose this lesbian culture with reproducing.

Simone Collins
So they would cut off one of their breasts like Amazons, and then the breast would form into a new child. No. Okay.

They would form a wicked circle and. Think what you know about Star wars lore. What could be the most sacrilegious way they were reproducing to the lore of the Star wars universe? They. They killed baby yodas to create genetic material.

Malcolm Collins
They were using the force to impregnate other women the way Anakin was born, and only Anakin was born. And that made Anakin unique and special in the Star wars universe. Oh, yeah. With Jesus. Yeah.

That's how they make all of their kids in this community. Oh, okay. It is very Jesus, but this is. And I actually like it with biblical fanfiction. It would be like if you wrote a biblical fanfiction and you knew the Jesus story, and you were like.

And there was this whole other town, this whole other town of lesbians, where everyone just prays to God and gets pregnant in the same way Mary did, because they're all sinless. That's basically what they did with this. Isn't that kind of a lesbian dream? If you could just have kids without male involvement? Hold on.

This is where it gets insane and misogynistic. Okay, so there is a famous scene in this. I carried them.

I created them, where the one lesbian is saying to the other lesbian to try to say that I should be the one who decides how they're raised. She goes, I carried them. And then the other lesbian, the strong black woman, she replies, I created them.

Which implies that men create the child and women carry the child. This is even more misogynistic than real human earth biology. So she's actually. Actually, I inseminated you, therefore, I created the child. Therefore, I am the dominant partner in this relationship and make all child rearing decisions.

Simone Collins
It's worse that the analog for the male here is the force. I just. Wow. Okay, this is did. Ah.

They need to. They need to have sensitivity readers. But they're just normies because I don't so woke. They didn't even think to have sensitivity readers. Sensitivity readers are the most woke.

So that's the problem. I think the problem is, like, a. Normal person reading this would be like, this is very misogynistic. Yeah. Like, you think that men create the child and women just carry it.

Malcolm Collins
And therefore men should have dominance over all family decisions. There was a period in human history where that seemed to be what people believed. Yes. Well, and this is actually interesting. It shows that, like, when you're in these ultra woke circles because you cannot criticize strong black female writer or whatever, whoever wrote this like that.

No one. They're just so unaware of how genuinely toxic their views have become in terms of misogynistic aspects of their views because nobody's willing to challenge them. Oh, boy. Yeah, I'm. That really happens in the.

I'm going to put the shot in this show. I created them, therefore I win. Okay, here is no. So we got to keep going with what happens to this temple. There's more before we get to our insider story here.

Yes. Okay. There is more. Okay. So they try to brainwash the girls.

Now in the show, it's they're the good guys and the Jedi's are the bad guys, which is fucking stupid. So wait, so again, we're back to the lesbian Jedi commune and they're raising the female Amazon younglings. Okay. Right. Yeah.

And they're talking about their upbringing. The Jedi's think, and this is framed multiple times, that we are using the dark side. Now, keep in mind, we know from the series, so if you are taking this from the outside perspective and you are watching this the way I think it should be watched, as in universe fascist propaganda. They admit that the Jedi say that they're using the dark side of the Force. They're like, some would say the way we're using the force is dark sided.

There is only one way to Darkseid use the Force, which is to use the Force to control and manipulate other people, to force the Force to act by your will. Wait, but Jedi do that all the time. The whole, like, the Jedi are supposed. To be enacting the force's will on reality, and the Force helps them do that. The dark siders have their own will, and they use that to exercise the Force on reality.

Simone Collins
Yeah, but how is. How are Darksiders using their own will? Is that not just the Force using them to use their will? No, that is not the way the dark side is seen in the universe. No.

Malcolm Collins
And this is also why the dark side isn't intrinsically negative. It's just. Do you relate to reality via harmony? Which, of course we would see. It's a mystic pathway.

So in many ways, from our perspective, the Jedi are the bad guys. Anakin, Chancellor Palpatine is evil. In my point of view, the Jedi are evil. They are fighting for a mystic pathway, whereas the Darksiders are. Can be fighting for a monotheistic pathway.

Simone Collins
I've been team Seth since you met me, Malcolm. But in this context, it means something quite different, because this is like a coven of witches, and we are seeing that the girls are trained from a young age to just not trust anyone outside the group, to not trust and to believe that they're a persecuted minority. And are they raised with a certain imperative? Is there a raison d'etre? Derek?

Malcolm Collins
Persecuted minority. Everyone else is a bad guy. So is their job to eliminate all other people's. What do they do? They exist to defend themselves and just exist.

They exist. But here's what's fucking insane, okay? They exist to defend themselves, but. And it's all. And we need to use the force to procreate.

These are the only two children in this giant commune of women, okay? Oh, so there's not. Okay, like, a regular thing that they do. And I think that this shows the way progressives view children. They're like, if we have two children for 80 women, that can save our culture, that'll do well intergenerationally.

That won't do. Especially what happens immediately after this. Children leave this culture. No more of an indication of the short term thinking of progressive culture in general, that there's a complete lack of long termism. And it's really about what's happening now.

Simone Collins
There's a myopia. Yeah. So then next, what happens, because we got to go over what happens in this episode because it's insane. So they live in this, like, old base on a mountain in an abandoned world, and it's this giant stone semicircle, like you would see in a lot of Star wars stuff. Okay, cool.

Yeah, cool. Yeah, cool idea. Problem is, they light it up like a freaking Christmas tree. So it would be obvious to anyone when they're trying to hide their kids from this Jedi thing. Don't you women need good lighting, Malcolm.

Malcolm Collins
Even after a lifetime of brainwashing, the evil one wants to stay. The good one wants to go as a Jedi. Or at least this is the way I'm reading it. It might be the other way around, but, yeah. And they're twins.

Simone Collins
I'm sure they're hard to tell apart. Do they dress them the same? No. This group tells her to lie to the Jedi. That's how she's gonna stay.

Malcolm Collins
She needs to lie to the Jedi in order to stay in the group, and she doesn't want to. And she doesn't lie to the Jedi, by the way. So they're trying to take their two young and use them to infiltrate an existing Jedi order, correct? No, they just don't want the Jedi to take their kids at all. Oh, okay.

And so they tell the kids to lie to the Jedi. Okay. Except the kid wants to escape them. The kid clearly seems to understand that they're abusive and wants to get away, which is interesting that they don't see the coding in this, but it's very clear. The kid.

You can read this separately. The kid wants to join the Mormon missionaries who have come to their house. And the other space Mormons in this, too. All right, we got some starship troopers going on here. Yeah, yeah.

So she's been coached to lie to them. Okay. God coaching children to lie to space CPS, basically. That is fantastic. But she doesn't, because she has a moral conscience.

And then the other one, the evil one, is I won't let you leave. And she's like, what do you mean by that? And she's I'm gonna kill you. Like, immediately to eleven. Right.

Simone Collins
That escalates. It's also like, it's very clear that this giant group of women, who is only raising two kids, by the way, is not at all qualified to be parents if one of their kids is already trying to murder the other one and torturing animals. That's how, by the way, it's established that she is the bad. The evil twin is that she tortures animals. The moms are like, no, this is fine space.

Malcolm Collins
CPS does need to come and take these kids. And she lights this girl's diary on fire and then locks her in the room and throws it on the ground. And what happens next? The giant stone fortress burns down. She burns the oopsies.

She burns down. Now, keep in mind that in the episode before this, this is, like, why you need mansplaining. Many people are like, in the episode before this, there was a fire in space, a campfire in space, outer space with no air. And in this episode, a giant concrete stone fortress caught into a rapid fire. Oh, I was gonna ask.

Simone Collins
I figured it just. It'd be more like the Globe theater or something fully wood. It's completely concrete in stone. You don't see. Space rocks are flammable.

Malcolm, stop. We don't know. Maybe telling women how space rocks are made. Okay. Potassium infused rocks.

Yeah. Duh. Stable. Yeah. So, one, this is why you need a sarcastic conservative man on every set.

Malcolm Collins
If you would like to hire us for anti dei consulting, we are starting a firm to do that. Just let us know.

Of course they should. I know. No, I. There actually should be. And we can clear up all of these problems you might have on the cheap.

We'll just fire people. We'll only take a percent of the money we save you. So that's actually a good business model. No, it is. And the company would be run, technically, because you are a trans ace woman by their perspective, and disabled.

Simone Collins
I'm autistic. And you're autistic. Right. So who better to be making these decisions? So anyway, and I have an MBA from Stanford.

Malcolm Collins
I'm qualified to do this. I've run big companies. I've been director of strategy at a major VC firm. So, anyway, we are at this point. The whole thing's burning down.

So all of the lesbians, as they're leaving, because, of course, the Jedi saved the good one. They run by. What happens to the evil twin whose diary was burned. She teleports outside somehow plot armor. It's insane.

It's genuinely insane. But anyway, the good one thinks she's dead, and I'm assuming it's a good one that goes with the Jedi. If it's not, I haven't watched the episode because I will not torture myself with this or pay for Disney. I've watched a lot of reviews, and they haven't clarified this point yet. Okay.

Simone Collins
Gotcha. It doesn't matter. It. No, doesn't matter. Yeah, doesn't matter.

Malcolm Collins
She was. I say she runs by this room, and all of these lesbian witches are dead. Do they all murder suicide or what? We don't know. It's.

It doesn't look like they burned. The room isn't on fire. Well, maybe they didn't know about crawling on the ground. The bad fire training. That's what killed.

Simone Collins
That's. It's deadly. Maybe Disney just wanted to use this as a teaching moment to remind everyone to crawl on the ground for a fire. Yeah, and it's interesting that this cult is supposed to be, like, way more powerful than the Jedi. They make that clear.

Malcolm Collins
That lesbian. I love this comment here, by the way. Okay. The witches are so powerful, they can easily kill a Jedi using the thing they said wasn't a weapon. But I should note here that they said that the force isn't a weapon.

Okay. They say no one can use the force as a weapon. Or at least you're not supposed to use the force as a weapon. Yeah. So the witches are so powerful that they can easily kill the Jedi using the thing that they swear is not a weapon and no one should use as a weapon.

Then they all died at once by a fire caused by a single girl in a giant fortress made of stone. With people inside the fortress who can. Project barriers and control gravity flammable stone and not necessarily smoke barriers. Potassium. It's plausible.

Simone Collins
Plausible. So now we get to talk about our own little private story with Hollywood. Unless you have some final comments on this. And do you think that, like, Star wars lore is recoverable at this point or anyone's gonna give it a chance again? When did you stop watching?

I stopped watching after the pod race. That's really by stopped watching, I still went through the motions of trying to watch some of the properties, but I have no memory after that. Even before it went woke, you stopped in the prequels? Mm hmm. Yeah.

The last good moment for me was the pod race. And after that, everything was so traumatically bad, as far as I'm concerned, that I literally have no memory of it. But pod racing is cool, so that's okay. But you watched the first and the second of the new movies was me. We didn't watch a return of whatever.

Malcolm Collins
I do not watch that one of the Palpatine movie. You don't remember it? I remember being deeply unhappy, and in the one, I've literally blocked them out, and I wasn't even drunk. Remember I used to try to get blackout drunk to watch things with you because it was really fun. And then I'd forget them, and then I could watch them again.

Simone Collins
But now. No. Yeah. Sorry. It just.

I don't know. They just got bad. I liked the camp, and the camp went away when it became corporate, so that's where I lost it. Woke wasn't even what killed it for me. It was the loss of.

Malcolm Collins
Wait, Jar Binks wasn't camp enough for you? Yeah, I guess he's pretty camp, but that. It felt more cringe than camp. And of course, now he's gone through. He's gone through the gauntlet, and now he is Sith Lord Jerbang.

Simone Collins
So that's cool. That's not canon, that's fan. It doesn't matter because it's just obviously true. Come on, Malcolm. There's no way.

It's not. But people who are familiar with assist Lord Jerbink's theory is that Jerbink, so that actually very powerful was the force and was a cis lord who is tricking Jedi and creating these events. And it actually makes a lot of sense, given all of his canon appearances. And there's an easy way you could craft a narrative around that. And I would love to see Disney do that, but they won't do anything that interesting.

Yeah, no, everything about Jarbanks points to that. It is irrefutable truth. Whether or not the creators of jerbanks realize that is not my problem. He's a racist stereotype. That makes it even better.

He's also this, like, anti woke. Like, I'm going to even mock, like, every concept of you thinking you're like, it. Just everything about it. This incredibly, like, racist, evil character. It's like a white minstrel performer that is also incredibly evil and trying to ruin all the forces of good.

What better character could there be? But, yeah, I love that. Star wars, the old Star wars went hard into racial stereotypes. Oh, my God. Remember the jewish character, the floating guy was the long nose who owned slaves and was like, trick people was games.

Malcolm Collins
And he wore, like, the old timey, like, medieval jewish hat style. Yeah. Anakin boss. And he spoke in that accent. Oh, my God.

That was horrifying. I was like, whoa. It was extremely racist movie. And I always said that the original Anakin slash Darth Vader stereotype was obviously a calvinist stereotype from older media. It was all of the pain obsessed, minimalism obsessed, single minded focus, moralizing.

I know what's right, everyone else is wrong. And the super manic, it's like a young person. And then the older iteration. That's okay. I'm just going to carry out my mission no matter what.

Yeah, it's interesting. The whole thing was built around stereotypes, and I think that made it better, to be honest. I think that stereotypes fit snugly within our mind. What are you saying? I guess there are still very offensive stereotypes.

Simone Collins
Right? So there was the offensive jew stereotype. The offensive. What was it supposed to be? Jamaican stereotype.

Now we have the offensive lesbian stereotype, and it's fine. Lesbians who. No, because it's not like lesbian. It was an interesting lesbian. This is another thing where they're like, they tried to make this movie palatable to women by putting a bunch of lesbians in it.

Malcolm Collins
That is not what women watch. I don't know. There are some. A very small handful. But there are some good lesbian shows, according to lesbians.

But this is not what the mainstream woman wants. The mainstream woman wants Bridgerton. Okay. Yes, she does. And you could do this with Star wars.

You could have a bunch of nobles with hot, masculine, buff men interacting with women and saving them. And I was actually gonna say, though. Here'S the thing, and this is actually even more accurate, although Bridgerton is very accurate. The mainstream woman wants Yaoi. And then you have a.

Simone Collins
You have man on man action devoid of women. I'm sorry, but, like, putting a bunch of chicks in it and making them gay is not the answer. Unless you're actually, like, really good. You have to be really good. And these are, like, old women, by the way.

Malcolm Collins
This isn't, like, hot lesbian stuff. We need to see. That's. Yeah, okay. Like, at least make them hot.

Simone Collins
At least make them fun for the whole family. But, yeah, that's. Yeah, I guess. Go ahead and. But, okay, so people might not understand how this happened, and now I need to tell a personal anecdote that happened to us recently, and this is speculative, and I'm not going to give names or companies, so you guys can ignore that.

Malcolm Collins
But we have been trying to make a documentary are. A lot of firms have been trying to make a documentary about our family for a while now, and the pronatalism in general. And it's generally the same story over and over again, which is it gets approved by the creative department, and it gets shut down by the legal department. And we've had this at major streaming networks multiple times at this point. The most recent excuse for the shutdown was that we practiced corporal punishment, and that caused problems for illegal.

Now, this is very confusing to me because it's legal in our state, so it shouldn't have anything to do with legal, except that maybe it affects ads, but that's not legal's department. But in addition to that, it's something the majority of Americans do, and it's something that the most recent research backs. You can look at the giant meta study done last year, parental punishment. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater 2023. Those two things being the case, why would it be shut down by legal, right?

And this is where I realized something. There hasn't been a single right leaning show that has been greenlit by a major streaming network in about the past ten years, where characters are shown in a somewhat right leaning light as positive. And people can say, what about Tiger King? Which you might not be familiar with, is Tiger King was actually pre produced and then bought by a studio, which seems to be okay for conservative shows. You just cannot have the studio produce it itself.

Which shows me that the legal departments of these studios, after they have been ransacked by DEI departments, are the core problem. It is not the DEI departments themselves. And unless you can influence legal departments of the major studios, you are never going to get anything passed through. But also these departments and the managers who do not get fired when they make bad numbers, they get to fire the creatives. Right.

But they have incentivized the creatives to make these sorts of things by canceling everything that comes through the pipeline that isn't far left. These are the same companies that let forward videos that have literal, like, PDA file content in them that have. It is insane. The stuff that they are green lighting. Right.

Dear white people, for example. Right. Yet slightly conservatively coded content ends up getting killed. And the reason is because the institutional bureaucracies of these structures are structured in a way where the urban monoculture has such control of them that deviating from it, even in ways that the majority of the american populace, the vast majority of their audience, deviates from it in, is unacceptable. Now, of course, Kavya, there are exceptions to this.

Simone Collins
There are some streaming platforms or networks that do have shows that. That showcase conservative people. No. Have you Platteville. Big conservative show that did, you're looking at, like, Duck dynasty.

Malcolm Collins
And that was well over ten years ago. Welcome to Plathville. Welcome to Plaqueville. Plathville. I've never heard of this.

Where is it streaming? TLC. That is not a major network that we've talked about. Oh, yeah. No, we haven't left the TLC.

Simone Collins
I'm just saying that there are. There are exceptions, but I think that kind of proves our point, if that's what you came up with, is your example when, historically speaking, there were lots of conservative leaning shows, like Duck Dynasty, the fact that this exists, or do you guys remember the man show? Like, this was a thing that existed for a while. Do you remember Spike TV in general, which is like Spike TV. Yeah.

Except everyone watched it because it was fun. Yeah, they had a lot of fun stuff. Yeah, I liked it. I remember that. This one get where the little kid, this spike tv boy, would go into quickie Mart type things and been like, he'd get alcohol and they'd say, can you show me your id?

Malcolm Collins
And he go, can you show me your green card?

Simone Collins
Oh, God. Yeah. Back when jokes were jokes, back when. Jokes were jokes, you could never do that. Today, I'll tell you, it's not fun anymore.

Cause people have made immigration lame and not fun. Scary. Can you hear me right, d can you show me a green card? I just can't. But, yeah, no.

Malcolm Collins
So the problem is that systemically, even lightly conservatively leaning things cannot be shown at these platforms. Even when what makes them conservative is opinions that are held by the majority of Americans. Yeah, I mean, there's probably a pretty big market for it. There are only a small number of channels that appear to be actively catering to that market, which is interesting, even though honestly, content about conservatives is equally entertaining to both conservative and progressive markets, because it's one of those things where you're either like, oh, these people are great, or you're like, oh, these monsters are hilarious. And so either way, you win.

Simone Collins
But I think this makes me think, of course, of Tracy Woodgrain's substack essay on how republicans are screwed. How when you look at a lot of the executional apparatus that is being minted by universities, and this is lawyers, this is legislators, this is the people who functionally get things done within large bureaucracies, because these institutions are so progressively coded and kind of designed at this point to mint progressives, even if centrists and conservatives enter them. Only progressives can come out to a certain extent, unless you've been totally radicalized against it, and there may be more of that backfiring. Benjamin Boyce seemed to be radicalized in the other direction by his brush with the progressive institution. But, yeah, that just means that you're not going to have a lot of conservative lawyers and producers and people who can grow within these really large networks.

So of course you're going to have conservative independent filmmakers and conservative entrepreneurs and conservative anything that's small scale. But when you get to the big. Bureaucracies, it's going to change this game. I think when we can do AI automation of shows or animation, it's going to completely up in this model with. Sora and other Sora like competitors, you can already make really amazing film content.

It's only a matter of time until. Yeah. So the final point I'd end on is we have been told that if, and this is just a thing, if somebody wants to invest in this, they can. I don't really care one way or the other way, but if we created something like a Tiger king for our family, right, like of our family, it'd probably do well in the film festival circuit. And then we could get it onto one of the streaming platforms and you'd likely make a good return, but it's going to require a pretty hefty investment, like half a million dollars or something like that.

Malcolm Collins
So if anyone is interested in doing that, let us know. But only if you're, like, one. You have the money to do something like that. I don't want to fan raise money for something like this. If somebody's doing it, I want it to be an investment that they plan to make a good return on, and then we'll do our part to ensure that you make that return.

But outside of that. Yeah, tough situation. But that might help to explain why the lesbians didn't know basic fire safety. Not fire safety. Living in a fucking concrete building is fire safety.

Simone Collins
Not when the concrete is obviously flammable. And they probably knew that. I don't. Where did the good evil twin get an incendiary device? She just left fire on the ground.

Malcolm Collins
She was a little lighter. So they had fire there? Yeah. In the building full of flammable stones. I hadn't burned down yet for some reason.

Simone Collins
You've left so many loose ends with this fascinating show. I feel like now I have to watch it, but I'm too busy watching Bridgerton and their ridiculous costumes, because here's what Bridgerton actually is. Bridgerton is not a historical romance. It is the season in the capital of the Hunger Games, which is what I always wanted. It is literally the dating.

Malcolm Collins
You could have that in Star wars. You could have a coruscant movie. You could have. I do Coruscant. Yeah, for sure.

Simone Collins
But honestly, Bridgerton just did that. Bridgerton Sci-Fi practically. It's not actually, like, period dress or anything. It's. It's great.

So, personally, I think I've got what I need media wise, so I'm glad I'm watching that. And I have seen that there were a lot of sexy men in Bridgerton. Are you watching too many sexy men being sexy? No one watches this for the men or women in it. They watch it for the costumes.

100% is the costumes. They're really pretty. Yeah, I love them. I love them. I love you guys.

You too. Still a lot of poop. This was the big one. I'm still. I'm on my way.

Speaker C
I'm nearly done. Okay. We're getting cleaner. This is getting. The situation is improving.

I'm almost done. There's still a lot of wiping happening. It's okay. We have plenty of time for the episode. Hang in there.

We can do this. Hold on. Hang in there. Okay, almost done. Almost done.

And I'm getting the diaper now. Fresh diapers come in and doing this with one hand, so it's a little awkward. Hold on. Okay. Getting the diaper installed.

It's happening. Oh, boy. I've discovered more poop, and I'm wiping it off. All right, and the diaper is coming on. Other diapers going into the trash.

I'm nearly done now. I'm on my way over. I'm definitely on my way over. The diaper is being fixed. One tab is on now.

The second tab is on. I'm almost there. She's looking very serious about this indie. I'm putting out the fluffs. If you don't put out the fluffs, the next diaper is blow out, almost guaranteed.

And now I'm tucking in legs, checking to make sure that there is no fecal matter on my hands, and I'm making my way out. Okay, okay, I'm almost there. Almost there. On my way right now. And I'm walking over.

Simone Collins
I'm walking over. I'm walking over. I'm sitting down. I'm here now. I have the baby.

I cannot hear you yet. I am putting her down. The poop has been removed, and I will soon be able to hear you, and I'm super excited for this. Yes. Okay, sorry.

I didn't want you to give up on this just because we had another diaper.