Heartbreaking loss for Jesse Marsch & Canada, Euro 2024 & Copa América 2024 Finals preview

Alexi Lawless
Hello, sunshine. I'm Alexi Lawless, and welcome to the State of the Union podcast, where we look at the beautiful game on and off the field through the lens of red, white and blue colored glasses. Today's show is brought to you by Zillow agents tours loans homes get home with Zillow. We are coming to you live July 13 following the third place Copa America game and on the eve of the Euro and Copa America finals as we head into this final day of what has been an amazing summer of soccer. Remember, we've been here live each and every day of euros and Copa America action, giving you a wrap up of what happened and a preview of what is to come.

But first, joining me as always, my friend, my colleague, my guiding lights, David Mosse, a soccer savant and a fox soccer researcher and writer extraordinaire. Mossy, how you doing, bud? I'm doing well. And you know, we can see the aftermath of the previous show they had a psychic on tonight. I did.

I saw that going on over there. You never know what you're going to find with the old now show going on. Can I digress just for a second here, mossy, because, you know, we, we look at ourselves when it comes to, I guess, sports in general, and certainly this show as an escape. And we are, sports are a wonderful escape from the realities and sometimes the craziness of life. As we said, we are coming to you on Saturday.

Earlier today, an assassination attempt against former President Trump. He seems to be fine, but unfortunately, somebody innocent was killed and maybe some others are in critical condition. So our thoughts and prayers are with everyone there that was affected by this and we as a country are affected by this. So regardless of your political persuasion, I think we can all agree that that's just ugly and sad and maddening that we are living through a time like this. I don't want to give you any broadcasting tips, but perhaps a heads up that you were going to begin the program that way.

It's okay. You know, now that I've gotten down the psychic path, it's okay. It's okay. You know. You know, we, as we said, we can incorporate other things and it doesn't mean that life doesn't go on.

But, you know, we, we came on air today as the events happened. And so obviously it's not our job in terms of sports reporting and this game to talk about it. But, I mean, you looked everywhere and everybody was, all hell was breaking loose because of this real time type of news that was flowing around and we did our job and we gave people maybe a little bit of escape, and we all need a little escape. I certainly think this summer, for a lot of people, has been a wonderful escape from some of the other things, some of the real things, some of the important things that go on out there. But just wanted to make sure that we mention that so that people understand we are not oblivious to what is happening in the world on a continual basis.

My friend. Should we light this candle? Let's do it. Okay, let's start off with the Copa America, third place, and then we'll give you a preview of what's happening tomorrow. As we said, we are here on Saturday.

Only one game. Euros do not have a third place game, but copas do. Canada two, Uruguay two. And Uruguay ends up winning in penalties. So congratulations to Uruguay finishing third.

Canada let one slip away. If you watched the game, it was in the palm of their hand. And I actually thought this might have been the best performance that Canada had in this tournament under Jesse Marsh. And plenty to talk about. But initial thoughts on this game, a.

David Mosse
Very entertaining for a third place match. Bentoncourse scored first. Ismael Kone with an acrobatic finish to make it one. One. Then Jonathan David gives Canada the lead late.

But Luis Suarez equalized again in second half stoppers time becoming the oldest scorer in Copa America history. We go to penalties. Canada missed twice, Conan denied by Rochette and then Alfonso Davis, shades of Messi against Ecuador. He tried that chip down the middle, it hits the post and so Canada lose. They have to be kicking themselves because they had so many chances to blow this game wide open and they didn't take advantage.

Alexi Lawless
I mean, they could have scored four different goals. So in one sense, Jesse Marsh has to be incredibly proud of the way that they played. Obviously, the result is not what they wanted and they let it get away at the end, but the way in which they play was good. And I know people will say you should have locked it down. I think it just shows some of the, I guess, immaturity that Canada still has.

But that's something that can be worked on over the next less than two years leading up to 2026. And that really, I think, is the big point and the big positive. Make no mistake, this is an overwhelming success for Canada and for Jesse Marsh in terms of this Copa America. And as we said time and time again, they did what we had hoped the US was going to do. And this is, if you're looking for things to build on, I mean, Jesse Marsh in this third place game, not for nothing.

He also made, what, eight changes or something like that, and started eight MLS players and ultimately they were really good. And as a matter of fact, you can even make an argument that they didn't play as well when he started making some different changes up there. But at least they went for it. Ultimately, that naivete that they can get out of their system going forward. I think it goes back to what Jesse Marsh had talked about was there's a lot of potential here.

It's up to him to maximize that potential. And certainly a fourth place finish for Canada was not something that I think he, if he's honest with himself or anybody saw coming, but wonderful things to build on when it comes to Canada. Now, Darwin Nunez started up front for Uruguay just days after that incident, after the semifinal against Colombia, in which he went into the stands and fought with the fans. And that led to an incredible exchange between Marcelo Bielsa and a reporter in the pre match press conference, he was asked if he was worried that his players would be suspended. And Bielsa was incredibly offended by that question because, as we said the other night, what happened there was the families of the uruguayan players were being harassed by colombian fans.

David Mosse
So Bielsa felt like they were well within their right to go protect their families. And it was a breakdown in security. And once he got going, he started going off on all other aspects of the tournament, from the field conditions to the refereeing, even brought up FIFA gate. It was quite the rant from Mister Biels. Well, I mean, isn't that we've come to expect from him in that El Loco is gonna loco.

Alexi Lawless
And it was equal parts valid and fair, many of the things he was talking about and at times ridiculous, but that's kind of part and parcel for what he and who he is. So when it comes to the actual events the other night, going up into the stands and we talked a little bit about the time. I don't think that anybody begrudges a player who has just finished a game, by the way, a game that you lost and the emotions are running high. You're in a cauldron of an environment in terms of 90% Columbia fans, and you look up and you see your family, your wife, your children in a volatile and potentially dangerous type of situation. Anybody is going to sympathize and understand that you're going to go and you're going to protect those that you love.

And I think his point was well made. I don't necessarily think that anything should be done. You don't want to encourage players obviously to go up into the stands. But in this instance, I think there is absolute justification. And look, I get it.

There's probably other layers to this and the story probably has multifacets out there and maybe that story ultimately will get told. Certainly on the surface. When you look at it and when you look at Bielsa defending his players, going and protecting the people that they love, I think all of us can empathize. All of us can put ourselves in those types of shoes and recognize that that is something that we would all do. Now all the other stuff that he talked about, well, at times, again, may be valid, but don't think for a second if they had won that game and they were playing in the final tomorrow against Argentina, that I think he would have had that type of meltdown.

I think he used the third place game to really kind of go off and make some points that either he wanted to make or just kind of came to his crazy head. Now, Jesse Marsh had some interesting comments in his pre match press conference. He said, Canada have been treated like second class citizens at this Cope America. And then he was asked about the us job. He says he's not interested.

David Mosse
He's happy where he is. And as long as the people who are in charge and the us soccer federation stay in charge, he doesn't think he'll ever be interested in that job. Did he specify in any detail as to why he felt that Canada was being treated as second class citizens? Not that I saw. Okay.

Alexi Lawless
And Jesse has done this before. He kind of alluded to problems in the process of the coaching search that he was involved with and that he was a candidate for the us team. Jesse, in this instance, more power to him. He recognizes the platform that he has and he's going to sing while he's winning, as he should. Especially in this moment when the US has been such a failure and that he picked this moment to crap on?

The us soccer federation I don't think is necessarily a surprise and I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. I think it's a human thing. But make, let's be very, very clear, when Jesse's talking about changes in the us soccer federation, hell hath no fury like a scorned coach. And what Jesse really is saying is those changes is somebody in there that would have hired him and ultimately he didn't. He didn't get hired.

And he is, as we said before, I think where he should be. I think he's doing a great job. He deserves all the plaudits and all of the credit for what he has done with that team in a very short period of time. But as we've said before, now it's eight games r1 win. In the eight games he's been in charge.

Let's see, two, four goals, four and eleven goals against something, something like that. Oh, and by the way, they played two games with red cards and stuff. I'm not going to tell him to slow his role because in this moment he should celebrate. And if he wants to bring in the us situation as part of it and to be fair to him, he was asked to comment on it, that's fine. But it also doesn't mean that Jesse Mars should have been or should be the us coach.

David Mosse
Now, on the topic of managers turning down the US job, Miguel Delaney and David Ornstein reporting that Jurgen Klopp was approached and said no. You responded on X by saying, good, thank you, Juergen. Don't waste our time. A lot of people interpreted that as snark on your part, but you told me today that was not the case. No, not at all.

Alexi Lawless
I don't, I mean, I don't want to be led on. And look, sometimes when coaches, they, you know, you are, you are coming in as a suitor. Like humans. They are all coaches are humans. They like to be fetid, they like to be celebrated, they like to be lobbied, they like to be lured.

And I just appreciate that if this is ultimately true, because we still haven't heard Jurgen Klopp, and I know Rob Stone on air kind of wanted to make sure that, hey, this may or may not be over, but until we hear Jurgen Klopp definitively say, no, that's not something that I want to do. Yeah, he's using his intermediaries and the press to do that, if that is true. But I like the fact that we're not going to spin our wheels. I like the fact that he's not going to make us run after him. And I'm not saying that you don't woo him, but if this is the case, I like that he was just clear cut and no, we're not going to waste your time, you're not going to waste our time.

And he's not going to just kind of say, well, you know, maybe, maybe not. No, he's going to do some other things and we don't have time to waste. Games are coming up in September and let's move on and let's spend the time and resources wooing the people that do want to do it, because there can no, there cannot be a half assed type of approach, even for the likes of Jurgen Klinsman. I know people are sorry you're going to clop. I know there are people out there would say, oh, well, a 50% Juergen club is better than, no, no.

I want somebody that's invested. I want somebody that says, hell, yes, that is something that I want to do. I want somebody that looks at this situation and says, damn right I want to do it, because I see the upside. I see the opportunity. Maybe it's just completely personal in what I can do with me and my brand.

All right? Maybe there's some altruism involved, but no matter what, I want somebody that sees this for what it is, and I think that it's a great opportunity. And if you don't see it for what it is, then I don't want to waste my time with you, and then I want you to waste my time. So that's what I was saying. The psychic.

David Mosse
Incidentally, if we can get back to that, I was told that she predicted Irving Renard will be the next coach and that Jimmy Conrad will coach the us national team someday. Really? Yes. Were they drinking that moonshine stuff that they like over there? What the hell?

Alexi Lawless
All right. I mean, there's a lot of people that are talking about Irving Renard as a possibility. Okay. So when it comes to. We talked a little bit about Bielsa, but when it comes to this Uruguay team, has this tournament changed the way that you feel?

I still think it's a very good team. But is it as good as we thought? No, the way they started, they scored eight goals in their first two games. Look like world beaters. And then they got progressively worse as the tournament got on.

David Mosse
So I don't think they come out of it with as much momentum as it looked like they were going to have at one point. What about Bielsa? Are you still a disciple and are you still worshiping at the altar of Bielsa? I love the man, and he does have that. What do you love about him?

Alexi Lawless
Just because he's different and he's. What? That's it? An eccentric character? Okay.

Yeah, I mean, that's good. And he does have him second in World cup qualifying. They've beaten Argentina and Brazil, so they're off to a strong start there. Can I say one thing about him screaming and yelling about the fields and about America and FIFA King and all this kind of stuff? This is a Comnobol event, am I right?

David Mosse
Correct. Okay. This is organized by Comnobol. Right. So when it comes to the fields, when it comes to the organization, like I said, obviously there is involvement when it comes to the United States in terms of the facilities and security and all that kind of stuff.

Alexi Lawless
But ultimately, this is a cumnable event. And so if you have a problem with the Copa America, go talk to comnable. All right? If we're organizing it, it's a different type of thing. And it should be said that the World cup in two years will be organized by FIFA, including the fields.

These are not necessarily the fields that you are going to see when it comes to 2026. And certainly after this summer, I think that a lot of scrutiny is going to be on the fields going forward. And these are much more temporary types of fields as opposed to the summer of 26, where a lot is going to be laid down, there's going to be a lot more technology, and there's going to be, let's be honest, a lot more cost involved in making sure that the fields are good. In fairness, in Bielsa's ren, he did go after a couple of fishers as well. Yes, absolutely.

You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. And so it was fun. And that's why I say when Bielsa does these things, as I said, there's a fair balance of valid points and ridiculousness, but it's all interesting. It's all entertainment and entertaining.

And he is the ultimate content creator for us and everybody else out there in the things that he said and the passion in which he does it and his gesticulation and the way that he uses his voice and all that kind of stuff. It is a, a theatrical type of performance when you see it done, and I can understand how you and many would be taken by that. Shall we transition to tomorrow? Okay, let's transition to tomorrow. Victory unlocked brought to you by Zillow agents Tours loans homes get home with Zillow preview us, my friend.

David Mosse
All right, so an epic day on Fox Sports. We have two finals. First, the Euros, Spain, England in Berlin, and then Argentina Colombia in Miami. Let's go in reverse order. We'll start with Argentina Colombia in the Acopa America final.

Colombia looking to win the Copa America for the second time. Argentina looking to win it for the second straight time, in the 16th time. Overall, my friend, because we have yet to see a magical type of Messi, something that we all maybe have taken for granted over the years, but have come to not just expect, but he's also, on the other side, provided moments of magic. We have not seen the best of Messi. We have not seen the best of Argentina in this tournament yet.

Alexi Lawless
However, in his backyard, his new backyard, in his adopted country, in a situation where he's again defending the title of Copa America, and two years from potentially in his backyard and his new neighborhood, defending his World cup, are you putting it past Messi to rise yet again to the occasion and provide a magical performance? I don't think he's fit right now, so I don't think physically he's up to it. But I could see Argentina playing better than they have. They know they have to. This is a step up in competition from who they've been playing, so I think they'll play better than they have in their previous games.

Columbia, 24 games in a row. Is that where we're at right now? 28 28? Excuse me. Their last defeat was to Argentina, February of 2022.

So they're on a roll. And as I said last show that we did a couple of days ago, I think from a fitness perspective and a physical perspective, they are as strong and fast and dominating as any team that I have seen out there, and they are relentless. And then you add the magic of Ahames and others out there, and this is a devastating type of combination. We were talking to bear about the odds, and the odds makers still have Argentina as the favorite. But I'm telling you, if anybody watched this tournament, purely on this tournament, and I know a lot goes into Argentina, World cup champions, Copa America, and I Messi on the field, I mean, I think it's got to be even.

And I think you can make a very good case that the favorite should be Colombia, notwithstanding the fact that the last game that they actually did lose. Was to Argentina, Columbus, minus their right back. Munoz, who got himself red, carted against Uruguay in the semis. That's a big miss. He's a very good player.

I think they're going to be just fine. Now, Lex, on the topic of managerial rants, the Colombia coach, Nestor Lorenzo had a pretty good one today. He is not happy with this Shakira halftime show. His point is you're suspending managers for coming out late for the second half, and we have to be sticklers about that. And now you're going to have, like a 25 minutes halftime to accommodate this Shakira Super bowl halftime type show that they're planning in Miami tomorrow.

David Mosse
Your thoughts on that? So he's angry that they have too much time to rest and he has too much time to adjust and coach, right? Correct. Okay, so first off. This has happened before where there's extended periods.

Alexi Lawless
Okay. I would assume that he is in a long line and has certainly joined the chorus out there of the poor players and how overworked they are and taxed they are when it comes to the modern game and the amount of games that they play and the travel that they have. And so now he's angry that there's more time, and not just for his team or not just for the opposition, but for both teams. So it's fair. In which they get to rehydrate, in which they get to rest, in which he can actually coach.

Cause we all know the coaches on the sideline. They scream and yell and they point and they. And they write things and do all that kind of stuff. But the reality is the players aren't really listening to them. And so the only time they have the opportunity to adjust and affect change is usually at halftime, and then obviously the substitutions that they make.

So he's angry about that? Yes. Okay. Maybe he's angry because he wants to watch the show. If they enabled him to watch.

Cause her hips don't lie, right? Is that what I'm told? Correct. So, I mean, I would want to watch somebody whose hips don't lie. I was gonna ask you, between Kat, Fran, Kyla, and Aaron, which one do you think is the biggest shakira fan in the group?

You think it's Fran? She's raising her hands. She's evidently taking credit for it. Would you call her a pop icon at this point? I think so, yeah.

Would you say that she is? I mean, she's not at, like, what level is she? She's not Madonna yet. Right. Probably a notch below that, I would say.

Okay. What about the other blonde girl? Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga. Is she a lady Gaga type?

Right? I think so, yeah. Okay. All right. And I think she's got also a global.

She was really smart in terms of doing the. The theme for the World cup. Right. I recently went to the Grammy museum in downtown LA to check out their hip hop 50 years exhibit, and they also had a shakira exhibit, which I walked through, was quite interesting. She's had a fascinating career.

Well, I don't care. I'm looking forward to the halftime presentation and show and bowl is evidently organizing this. Yes. So what could go wrong? And she is colombian, so we know where her allegiance is.

David Mosse
Lied. That's true. That is true. All right, well, you know, I'm excited for it. When it comes right down to it.

Alexi Lawless
Mossy, who do you think ultimately is crowned champion of Copa America. Too close to call? Yeah. But I do think Argentina will find a way somehow. Really?

David Mosse
Yeah. Okay. Do you think that Messi plays better in this final than what we've seen? You mentioned his injuries. I think it's tough.

It's going to be a very intense game. I don't think physically he can keep up right now. Di Maria has said this is it. Do you think it is? Yes, I think he'll stick to it.

Alexi Lawless
You don't think he gets coaxed out over the next couple of years? He's been pretty adamant. Okay. And what a career he's had. I mean, look, Messi is Messi, but the supporting cast, at times they don't get overlooked.

But it's not that there is no Messi, but there is kind of no Messi without Di Maria taking some of the flack and picking up some of the, you know, the flak when it comes to scoring goals and distracting and scoring big goals and being a star in and of itself over there. So he's been the Pippin to his Jordan. There you go. That's what I was looking for. All right, so then we go to the euros final in Berlin.

David Mosse
Spain. England. Spain looking to win a record fourth european crown. England in their second straight final and looking to end a 58 year trophy drought. Well, see, tell me if I'm off base on this, because, you know, I came on air a month ago and talked about England in the way that I often do, in that they are insufferable.

Alexi Lawless
They are the Dallas cowboy esque. People tune in. Just many people tune in that hate them, that love them. Watching the English whinge and the angst that they feel is a wonderful pastime that I have and others have taken up over the years. However, the pathway that this England team has taken has to be said, a much easier side of the bracket.

But is this a more likable type of England team? Is this maybe a sentimental type of favorite, given the almost 60 years of futility and up against the Spain team? But I think a lot of people, and rightfully so, and I would probably include myself, say is a better team. I think so, yeah. Certainly.

David Mosse
Gareth Southgate I find to be extremely likable. So it'd be great for him to break through and win this title. We were talking earlier on the show with. With Ari and Clint and Carly about these two teams, and I don't think it can be overstated how amazing it is that Spain has fundamentally changed the way that they play and yet we find ourselves. And Ari was saying, this is the most entertaining team in the tournament.

Alexi Lawless
So they haven't lost any entertainment and yet they've done it in a completely different way. And was it you that. I think I used your line today on air about the epicenter of soccer right now, being in Spain with what they're doing with the men, the women and all of the youth teams, right? Yep. And I absolutely feel that way.

David Mosse
And the two players that have been the catalyst for this stylistic change, Lamina Mal turned 17 today. Nico Williams turned 22 yesterday. So they're both celebrating birthdays heading into this final. Great young talent waiting in the wings that was injured for this summer, too. So plenty of, geez, the rich just keep on getting richer.

Alexi Lawless
And so, happy birthday to Lamina Malden turning 17, and now tomorrow he gets to play in a euro final.

Questions? So, for example, Lamina Mal, does Luke Shaw start on that left hand side? He has yet to start a game, but I think the conventional wisdom is that he is the best at that position. If he is able to go. And do you put him up against that well, now 17 year old out there that's terrorizing people?

David Mosse
I think there's a chance, yeah, I think the fact that Southgate brought him on in the last game, he's itching to start him in this game. Game. Do you start Harry Kane? I think there was some talk about not starting Harry Kane and that he hasn't done what they wanted, but I think that's crazy talk. Yeah, I agree.

He definitely starts up front. Okay. What other possible changes or tweaks can you see? No, I think it'll be what we've seen. Rodri Fabian Ruiz, Olmo Morata up front.

And by the way, Morata is fit enough to start, thank God, because that was a ridiculous incident where the security person ran to the field and ran him over and for a day or two there was touch and go, but it looks like he'll be able to play. All right, buddy, anything else here before we hit one for the road? No, that's it. All right, well, we're looking forward to tomorrow and like you said, we got a lot of coverage tomorrow. It's going to be end to end soccer tomorrow, but let's move on to one for the road and finish this up and get some sleep and then get back and do a big Sunday of soccer tomorrow.

Alexi Lawless
Okay. For those that maybe don't know, the us women's national team is celebrating the 25th anniversary of their incredible and seminal World cup win in the summer of 1999. Now, some of you out there watching or listening may have attended it, maybe have watched it, maybe you weren't even born then. But I think that you will all agree that this group of women did fundamentally change not just the sport of soccer in the United States, but sports in the United States with their accomplishment. You can see if you're watching, they have been celebrating this team and bringing them together as almost a send off.

But obviously a look back to what happened 25 years ago, and they were with the national team who played today, ended up beating Mexico 10 on kind of their send off before they go over to the Olympics. And they brought back all of these players. And it was wonderful to see these players. I vividly remember going to the games. I vividly remember the way it grew.

And I vividly remember how there was a kind of feeling of, if you build it, they will come. And obviously, a few years earlier, the men's World cup had happened, but this was the Women's World cup. And, you know, in the documentary, Julie Foudy talks about how once the tournament kicked off and kind of turning the corner, literally, and seeing these stadiums that were packed and realizing that there was something there and then it's not a Cinderella story, but it's the way that you would want to write it. Ultimately winning in penalties and the brandy Chastain moment and all these wonderful women that were elevated to so much more than just soccer players and idolized, rightfully so, by young boys and girls all across the country and around the world. So it was a wonderful summer and absolutely deserves to be celebrated.

I think I mentioned this, I don't know, a couple weeks ago. We are also here in the summer of 2024, 30 years on from the summer of 1994, and another seminal type of moment in american soccer history. And really for a lot of people, a flag that was planted. And I still, to this day, meet people that will tell me that summer changed my life in terms of how I view soccer, how I view myself as a soccer fan, or how I came to the game. And I remain incredibly proud, as I know all of my teammates in what happened that summer.

It is a little, and I'll be honest, you know, I know I can be callous, and I know that I can be viewed as somebody without a heart, or at the very least, a cold hearted type of person. But I have feelings, Mossi. I have emotions. And I am a little bit disappointed. You know, when your parents say, I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed.

Well, I'm not angry. Us soccer. Just a little disappointed in that this 30 year anniversary was not celebrated. And keep in mind, I know in a couple of years in 2026, there will be wonderful retrospectives and tributes and honors relative to what happened at that point 32 years ago. But it would have been nice to have something this summer and it takes organization and it takes forethought and maybe we just dropped the ball on this one, as I said before.

But that's not to take anything away from the incredible women of 1999, the 99 ers and what they did. They deserve to be fetted, they deserve to be celebrated 25 years on, as do the teams. And the us team. In 1994, obviously we didn't win the World cup, but it was a wonderful summer and a lot that we take for granted now. Kind of started in that summer of.

David Mosse
1994 on the us women. They beat Mexico today in a friendly at Red Bull Arena. 10. Sofia Smith scored the goal. I think Melissa Ortiz covered the match.

Alexi Lawless
She was telling her what she was going out there, a bit of a. Revenge game because remember, they lost to Mexico and they were earlier this year. Although some bad news for the US, Katarina Makaria will miss the Olympics due to injury. Lynn Williams has replaced her on the roster. Makario, very snake bitten, huh?

Yeah. Last couple of years she's had some real bad injuries and she was kind of the heir apparent to Alex Morgan and it plays the position in a very different way. But it's just, it's sad for her because obviously, whatever problems she's having with her knees, they're not being fixed. Can we finish the show on a lighter note? Yes, of course.

David Mosse
On the topic of female empowerment, did you know that Kyla today produced both the now show and the State of the Union podcast? Wow. Well, I mean, I don't want to, I don't want to look surprised because we've talked often about her quality and to be quite honest, she's too good for us. She's too good for everybody here, to be quite honest. So we are going to lose her at a certain point and she's going to go on to much bigger and better things.

Alexi Lawless
But it should not surprise you, me or anybody that she was called into action and she knocked it out of the park. Couple of things. It's typical of the now show. We make stars and then they take them. Nobody knew who Kyla was when she walked in here and now she's the hottest producer in the podcast industry and they go and take her.

David Mosse
However, second point, if Kyler produced the now show, and stated union. What on earth did Sean Sullivan today? Right? I mean, like backbench. And when I say backbench, like from the green room, maybe eating granola or something like that.

Alexi Lawless
But, you know, look, she doesn't need to be backbench. She doesn't need anybody looking over her shoulder. She, let's be honest, she's the brains of the organization here in terms of everything that's, that's going on. She, you know, she would, she would never, you know, let on that she did this. She certainly wouldn't tell us, and she's not going to react.

It's kind of like, you know, when you play for, when you play against a team that you were a part of and you score against them, you know, that thing where I don't want to celebrate or anything like that, you know, she should celebrate this. This is wonderful. Despite the fact that, you know, and she was kind of slumming, let's be honest. Okay. Over there with the now show and everything that went well.

Obviously she learned here. Like you said, there is still that fascinating question looming. Our first pod post summer of soccer. Will it be Shawn or Kyla in the chair? Listen, these are the things that, these are champagne problems, my friend.

Champagne problems. All right, listen, we have a wonderful, wonderful show tomorrow. We'll be back here live. But all through the day, we got hours and hours of content when it comes to these incredible games. Just a great summer.

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Heartbreaking loss for Jesse Marsch & Canada, Euro 2024 & Copa América 2024 Finals preview

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